Sir William de Beauchamp Knt., Lord Beauchamp of Bedford1,2,3

M, #12961, b. circa 1186, d. after 28 December 1260
FatherSir Simon de Beauchamp4 d. b 1262
MotherIsabel (?)4
ReferenceGAV22
Last Edited9 Dec 2012
     Sir William de Beauchamp Knt., Lord Beauchamp of Bedford married Isabella de Mortimer (de Mortuo Mari).1
Sir William de Beauchamp Knt., Lord Beauchamp of Bedford was born circa 1186; of age in 1206-7.4 He married Gunnor de Lanvallei, daughter of William (II) de Lanvallay of Wakerly and Hawise de Boclande, before 1207
; his 1st wife.4 Sir William de Beauchamp Knt., Lord Beauchamp of Bedford married Ida (or Idonea) de Longespee, daughter of William I Longespee 3rd Earl of Salisbury and Ela fitz Patrick Countess of Salisbury, circa January 1220
; his 2nd wife; her 2nd husband; date of fine.1,5,2,6,4
Sir William de Beauchamp Knt., Lord Beauchamp of Bedford died after 28 December 1260.3,4
     GAV-22. He was Baron of the Exchequer.4 He was Cheriff of cos. Bedford and Bucks.4 He was Lord Beauchamp of Bedford.7

; van de Pas cites: The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: vol 1 15.7,3

; per Richardson: "He was among the baronial leaders excommunicated by name in Dec. 1215."4

Family 1

Isabella de Mortimer (de Mortuo Mari)

Family 2

Gunnor de Lanvallei
Child

Family 3

Ida (or Idonea) de Longespee b. c 1204, d. b 1270
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 15, de BEAUCHAMP 7. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Longespee 3.iv: p. 458. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Beauchamp: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00370354&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Mowbray 4: p. 528.
  5. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Welf 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/welf/welf2.html#HL
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida Longespee: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00370355&tree=LEO
  7. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 63-2, p. 82. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  8. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Mowbray, Segrave and Stourton Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  9. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Saint Davids Family Page.
  10. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Mowbray 5: p. 529.
  11. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 15, de BEAUCHAMP 7:iv.
  12. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Wake Family Page.
  13. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Mowbray 4.v: p. 528.
  14. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Mowbray 4.i: p. 528.
  15. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Mowbray 4.iv: p. 528.
  16. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 15, de BEAUCHAMP 7:v.
  17. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 63. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  18. [S1764] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email #1 29 Aug 2005 "Botetourt descent from Berkeley ancestor, Robert Fitz Harding (died 1171)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email #1 29 Aug 2005."
  19. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Botetourt 5: p. 135.
  20. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice de Beauchamp: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00370359&tree=LEO
  21. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Mowbray 4.ii: p. 528.
  22. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Mowbray 4.iii: p. 528.

William de Mowbray Baron of Axholme

M, #12962, d. before March 1223
FatherNele de Mowbray1,2 d. 1191
MotherMabel (?)2 d. c 1203
ReferenceEDV22
Last Edited6 Oct 2020
     William de Mowbray Baron of Axholme married Avice/Agnes (?)3,2

William de Mowbray Baron of Axholme died before March 1223 at Axholme, Lincolnshire, England.3,1,2
     EDV-22 GKJ-22. He was Baron of Axholme at Axholme, Lincolnshire, England.3

; William; supporter of KING JOHN at time of latter's loss of Normandy to the French 1204-05, whereby the original Montbrai possessions were alienated; accompanied JOHN to Ireland 1210 but joined baronial opposition to JOHN over Magna Carta 1215, to enforce which he was one of the 25 magnates appointed; excommunicated by INNOCENT III at JOHN's request after prolonged opposition to him, his estates being confiscated also; captured Battle of Lincoln May 1217 fighting for the French King against HENRY III but submitted to latter Oct 1217 and got back his estates; m Avice - and d by March 1223/4.2 He was Crusader in 1193.3

; Magna Carta Surety, 1215.3
William de Mowbray Baron of Axholme was a witness to the signed Magna Carta.
Counsellors named in Magna Carta
     "The preamble to Magna Carta includes the names of the following 27 ecclesiastical and secular magnates who had counselled John to accept its terms. The names include some of the moderate reformers, notably Archbishop Stephen Langton, and some of John's loyal supporters, such as William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke. They are listed here in the order in which they appear in the charter itself:[62]
1. Stephen Langton, Archbishop of Canterbury and Cardinal
2. Henry de Loundres, Archbishop of Dublin
3. William of Sainte-Mère-Église, Bishop of London
4. Peter des Roches, Bishop of Winchester
5. Jocelin of Wells, Bishop of Bath and Glastonbury
6. Hugh of Wells, Bishop of Lincoln
7. Walter de Gray, Bishop of Worcester
8. William de Cornhill, Bishop of Coventry
9. Benedict of Sausetun, Bishop of Rochester
10. Pandulf Verraccio, subdeacon and papal legate to England
11. Eymeric, Master of the Knights Templar in England
12. William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke
13. William Longespée, Earl of Salisbury
14. William de Warenne, Earl of Surrey
15. William d'Aubigny, Earl of Arundel
16. Alan of Galloway, Constable of Scotland
17. Warin FitzGerold
18. Peter FitzHerbert
19 Hubert de Burgh, Seneschal of Poitou
20. Hugh de Neville
21. Matthew FitzHerbert
22. Thomas Basset
23. Alan Basset
24. Philip d'Aubigny
25. Robert of Ropsley
26. John Marshal
27. John FitzHugh

The Council of Twenty-Five Barons
     "The names of the Twenty-Five Barons appointed under clause 61 to monitor John's future conduct are not given in the charter itself, but do appear in four early sources, all seemingly based on a contemporary listing: a late 13th-century collection of law tracts and statutes, a Reading Abbey manuscript now in Lambeth Palace Library, and the Chronica Majora and Liber Additamentorum of Matthew Paris.[63][64][65] The process of appointment is not known, but the names were drawn almost exclusively from among John's more active opponents.[66] They are listed here in the order in which they appear in the original sources:
1. Richard de Clare, Earl of Hertford
2. William de Forz, Earl of Albemarle
3. Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex and Gloucester
4. Saer de Quincy, Earl of Winchester
5. Henry de Bohun, Earl of Hereford
6. Roger Bigod, Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk
7. Robert de Vere, Earl of Oxford
8. William Marshal junior
9. Robert Fitzwalter, baron of Little Dunmow
10. Gilbert de Clare, heir to the earldom of Hertford
11. Eustace de Vesci, Lord of Alnwick Castle
12. Hugh Bigod, heir to the Earldoms of Norfolk and Suffolk
13. William de Mowbray, Lord of Axholme Castle
14. William Hardell, Mayor of the City of London
15. William de Lanvallei, Lord of Walkern
16. Robert de Ros, Baron of Helmsley
17. John de Lacy, Constable of Chester and Lord of Pontefract Castle
18. Richard de Percy
19. John FitzRobert de Clavering, Lord of Warkworth Castle
20. William Malet
21. Geoffrey de Saye
22. Roger de Montbegon, Lord of Hornby Castle, Lancashire[f]
23. William of Huntingfield, Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk
24. Richard de Montfichet
25. William d'Aubigny, Lord of Belvoir

Excommunicated rebels
     "In September 1215, the papal commissioners in England – Subdeacon Pandulf, Peter des Roches, Bishop of Winchester, and Simon, Abbot of Reading – excommunicated the rebels, acting on instructions earlier received from Rome. A letter sent by the commissioners from Dover on 5 September to Archbishop Langton explicitly names nine senior rebel barons (all members of the Council of Twenty-Five), and six clerics numbered among the rebel ranks:[67]
Barons
1. Robert Fitzwalter
2. Saer de Quincy, Earl of Winchester
3. Richard de Clare, Earl of Hertford
4. Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex and Gloucester
5. Eustace de Vesci
6. Richard de Percy
7. John de Lacy, Constable of Chester
8. William d'Aubigny
9. William de Mowbray
Clerics
10. Giles de Braose, Bishop of Hereford
11. William, Archdeacon of Hereford
12. Alexander the clerk [possibly Alexander of St Albans]
13. Osbert de Samara
14. John de Fereby
15. Robert, chaplain to Robert Fitzwalter with John I "Lackland" (?) King of England on 15 June 1215.4

Citations

  1. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 158-6, p. 188. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Mowbray, Segrave and Stourton Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis MCS-5, line 63-1, p. 81.
  4. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Mowbray 5: p. 529. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Avice/Agnes (?)

F, #12963
ReferenceEDV23
Last Edited6 Oct 2020
     Avice/Agnes (?) married William de Mowbray Baron of Axholme, son of Nele de Mowbray and Mabel (?).1,2

     EDV-23 GKJ-22.

.1

Citations

  1. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 63-1, p. 81. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Mowbray, Segrave and Stourton Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Mowbray 5: p. 529. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Miles Philipson of Crook, Westmorland1

M, #12964
Last Edited30 Dec 2012
     Miles Philipson of Crook, Westmorland married Barbara Sandys.1

     Miles Philipson of Crook, Westmorland lived at Crook, Westmorland, England.2

.2

Family

Barbara Sandys
Child

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Calvert 17: pp. 182-183. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 63-14, p. 83. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  3. [S2371] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd edition (3 Volumes) (Salt Lake City, UT: Self Published, 2011), Vol III: Somerset 17: p. 238. Hereinafter cited as Richardson [2011] Plantagenet Ancestry 2nd ed (3 vols).

Benedict Leonard Calvert 4th Lord Baltimore1

M, #12965, b. 21 March 1679, d. 16 April 1715
FatherCharles Calvert 3rd Lord Baltimore1,2 b. 27 Aug 1637, d. 21 Feb 1714/15
MotherJane Lowe Lady Baltimore1,3 b. 14 Oct 1633, d. 19 Jan 1700/1
Last Edited3 Jan 2009
     Benedict Leonard Calvert 4th Lord Baltimore was born on 21 March 1679.4 He married Charlotte Lee Lady, daughter of Edward Henry Lee 1st Earl of Lichfield and Charlotte Fitz Roy, on 2 January 1699.4

Benedict Leonard Calvert 4th Lord Baltimore died on 16 April 1715 at Epsom, co. Surrey, England, at age 36.4,5
     He was 4th Lord Baltimore.4

.6

Family

Charlotte Lee Lady b. 13 Mar 1678, d. 22 Jan 1721
Children

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Calvert 18.i: p. 183. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Charles Calvert: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00186720&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Lowe 18.ii: p. 469.
  4. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-20, p. 25. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  5. [S752] Marcellus Donald Alexander R. von Redlich, compiler, Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. I (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1941 (1988 reprint)), p. 147. Hereinafter cited as von Redlich [1941] Charlemagne Desc. vol I.
  6. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis MCS-5, line 63-16, p. 83.
  7. [S752] Marcellus Donald Alexander R. von Redlich, von Redlich [1941] Charlemagne Desc. vol I, p. 148.

Gerald Rothfalyaght ('The Red Man of Offaly') Fitz Maurice Fitz Gerald 4th Baron of Offaly1

M, #12966, d. 20 July 1286
FatherMaurice Ruadh ('The Red') Fitz Gerald 3rd Baron of Offaly d. 28 Jul 1268
Last Edited28 Oct 2002
     Gerald Rothfalyaght ('The Red Man of Offaly') Fitz Maurice Fitz Gerald 4th Baron of Offaly married Joan (Jeanne) de Joinville, daughter of Sir Geoffrey de Joinville 1st Lord Geneville and Maud (Matilda) de Lacy.2,3
Gerald Rothfalyaght ('The Red Man of Offaly') Fitz Maurice Fitz Gerald 4th Baron of Offaly was born before 1285.4
Gerald Rothfalyaght ('The Red Man of Offaly') Fitz Maurice Fitz Gerald 4th Baron of Offaly died on 20 July 1286.3
Gerald Rothfalyaght ('The Red Man of Offaly') Fitz Maurice Fitz Gerald 4th Baron of Offaly died before 6 May 1292.2

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 138-139, de LUSIGNAN 7:vi. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-5, p. 23. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Leinster Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  4. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I25362

Johann I (?) Graf von Ober-Salm1

M, #12967, b. circa 1275, d. circa 1338
FatherHeinrich IV (?) Grav von Ober-Salm1 d. bt 1292 - 1293
MotherLauretta (?) Graefin von Blieskastel1
Last Edited25 Aug 2020
     Johann I (?) Graf von Ober-Salm was born circa 1275.2 He married Joan (Jeanne) de Joinville, daughter of Sir Geoffrey de Joinville 1st Lord Geneville and Maud (Matilda) de Lacy, before 1294.2,1

Johann I (?) Graf von Ober-Salm died circa 1338; Genealogy.EU (Luxemburg 4 page) says d. ca 1330.2,1
     He was Graf von Ober-Salm.2

; Gf Johann von Salm, +ca 1330; m.Jeanne, heiress of Neuviller, dau.of Geoffroi de Joinville.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg4.html
  2. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-5, p. 23. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Sponheim 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/sponheim/sponh6.html
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde zu Salm: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00105507&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Heinrich IV (?) Grav von Ober-Salm1

M, #12968, d. between 1292 and 1293
FatherHeinrich III (?) Graf von Salm, seigneur de Viviers2,3,1 b. c 1191, d. a 21 Sep 1228
MotherMarguerite de Bar2,1 b. 1193, d. a 1259
Last Edited26 Jul 2004
     Heinrich IV (?) Grav von Ober-Salm married Lauretta (?) Graefin von Blieskastel, daughter of Heinrich von Blieskastel Graf von Blieskastel and Agnes von Sayn Gräfin von Sayn, in 1242.4,1

Heinrich IV (?) Grav von Ober-Salm died between 1292 and 1293.1
      ; Gf Heinrich IV von Salm, +1292/3; m.1242 Laure, heiress of Hunolstein, Bernkastel and Püttlingen (+1269) dau.of Gf Heinrich von Blieskastel.1

; Weis [MCS] line 17C-5.4

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg4.html
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heinrich III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026406&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-5, p. 23. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.

Lauretta (?) Graefin von Blieskastel1

F, #12969
FatherHeinrich von Blieskastel Graf von Blieskastel1,2,3 d. a 17 Dec 1237
MotherAgnes von Sayn Gräfin von Sayn3 d. a 1 Aug 1259
Last Edited27 Feb 2020
     Lauretta (?) Graefin von Blieskastel married Heinrich IV (?) Grav von Ober-Salm, son of Heinrich III (?) Graf von Salm, seigneur de Viviers and Marguerite de Bar, in 1242.4,1

      ; Laure, heiress of Hunolstein, Bernkastel and Püttlingen (+1269) dau.of Gf Heinrich von Blieskastel.1

; Weis [MCS] line 17C-5.4

Family

Heinrich IV (?) Grav von Ober-Salm d. bt 1292 - 1293
Child

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg4.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heinrich: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106499&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(UPPER)%20NOBILITY.htm#HeinrichBlieskasteldied1237. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-5, p. 23. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.

Laurette (?) Graefin von Ober-Salm1,2

F, #12970, d. 1345
FatherJohann I (?) Graf von Ober-Salm1,2 b. c 1275, d. c 1338
MotherJoan (Jeanne) de Joinville1
Last Edited19 Oct 2004
     Laurette (?) Graefin von Ober-Salm married Heinrich II (?) Graf von Sponheim, son of Johann II von Sponheim Graf von Sponheim-Starkenburg and Katherina (?) von Ochsenstein, before 20 January 1314.3,1,2

Laurette (?) Graefin von Ober-Salm died in 1345; Genealogy.EU (Luxemburg 4 page) says d. 1345/6.3,1,2
     She was Graefin von Ober-Salm.3

; Laurette von Salm, +1345/6; m.before 20.1.1314 Gf Heinrich II von Sponheim (+1322.)1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg4.html
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Sponheim 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/sponheim/sponh6.html
  3. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-6, p. 23. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Johann III 'der Ältere: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036582&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Heinrich II (?) Graf von Sponheim1,2,3

M, #12971, d. 1322
FatherJohann II von Sponheim Graf von Sponheim-Starkenburg2,3,4 d. 1324
MotherKatherina (?) von Ochsenstein2,3 d. a 1313
Last Edited5 Mar 2020
     Heinrich II (?) Graf von Sponheim married Laurette (?) Graefin von Ober-Salm, daughter of Johann I (?) Graf von Ober-Salm and Joan (Jeanne) de Joinville, before 20 January 1314.2,1,3

Heinrich II (?) Graf von Sponheim died in 1322.2,1,3
     He was Graf von Sponheim.2,1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg4.html
  2. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-6, p. 23. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Sponheim 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/sponheim/sponh6.html
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#JohannIISponheimdied1324. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Johann III 'der Ältere: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036582&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Johann II von Sponheim Graf von Sponheim-Starkenburg1

M, #12972, d. 1324
FatherHeinrich I von Sponheim Graf von Sponheim-Starkenburg1,2,3 b. bt 1235 - 1240, d. 1 Aug 1289
MotherBlancheflor von Jülich1,4,3 d. a 23 Apr 1330
Last Edited5 Mar 2020
     Johann II von Sponheim Graf von Sponheim-Starkenburg married Katherina (?) von Ochsenstein, daughter of Otto III von Ochsenstein Landvogt im Elsass and Kunigunde (?) von Habsburg, on 3 June 1290
;
Her 2nd husband.5,6,7
Johann II von Sponheim Graf von Sponheim-Starkenburg died in 1324.6,3
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "JOHANN [II] von Sponheim (-1324). Graf von Sponheim-Starkenburg.
     "m ([3 Jun 1290]) as her second husband, KATHARINA von Ochsenstein, widow of EMICH [V] Graf von Leiningen, daughter of OTTO [III] Herr von Ochsenstein & his wife Kunigunde von Habsburg (-after 1313). "Emecho comes de Liningen, Catharina uxor sua, Otto comes de Nassauwe, Agnes uxor sua, Johannes comes de Spanheim, Alheidis uxor sua, Henricus dominus de Blanckenberg et Cunigundis uxor sua, sororii et sorores mei Emechonis comitis" confirmed the sale of property "in villa Liestorff" to Kloster Wadegoz made by "felicis recordationis dominus Emecho quondam comes de Liningen" by charter dated Jan 1288[1003]. Rudolf I King of Germany pledged “castrum Wer” to "domine Katarine de Ossinsten relicte quondam Emichonis de Liningen consanguinee nostre" as dowry for "Johannem comitem de Sponheim suum maritum" by charter dated 3 Jun 1290[1004]."
Med Lands cites:
[1003] Kremer, J. M. (1785) Genealogische Geschichte des altern ardennischen Geschlechts, Codex Diplomaticus (Frankfurt) ("Ardennisches Geschlecht Codex"), VI, Documenta Liningensia, VII, p. 252.
[1004] Alsatia Diplomatica Tome II, DCCLXVII, p. 44.3
He was Graf von Spanheim.5 Johann II von Sponheim Graf von Sponheim-Starkenburg was also known as Johann II Graf von Sponheim.5,6

; Weis [MCS] line 17C-6.5

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#HeinrichSponheimdied1289. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heinrich I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00065101&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#JohannIISponheimdied1324
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Blancheflor von Jülich: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00065102&tree=LEO
  5. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-6, p. 23. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  6. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Sponheim 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/sponheim/sponh6.html
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#KatharinaOchsensteinM1EmichLeiningen

Katherina (?) von Ochsenstein1

F, #12973, d. after 1313
FatherOtto III von Ochsenstein Landvogt im Elsass2 d. bt 26 Sep 1289 - 31 Mar 1290
MotherKunigunde (?) von Habsburg2 d. 30 Jan 1250
Last Edited5 Mar 2020
     Katherina (?) von Ochsenstein married Emich V (?) Graf von Leiningen in Landeck am Pfalz, son of Emich IV (?) Graf von Leiningen in Landeck and Elisabeth d'Aspremont,
;
Her 1st husband.3 Katherina (?) von Ochsenstein married Johann II von Sponheim Graf von Sponheim-Starkenburg, son of Heinrich I von Sponheim Graf von Sponheim-Starkenburg and Blancheflor von Jülich, on 3 June 1290
;
Her 2nd husband.4,1,2
Katherina (?) von Ochsenstein died after 1313.2
     Katherina (?) von Ochsenstein was mentioned in a land transaction
Memo: Per Med Lands:
     "KATHERINA von Ochsenstein (-after 1313). "Emecho comes de Liningen, Catharina uxor sua, Otto comes de Nassauwe, Agnes uxor sua, Johannes comes de Spanheim, Alheidis uxor sua, Henricus dominus de Blanckenberg et Cunigundis uxor sua, sororii et sorores mei Emechonis comitis" confirmed the sale of property "in villa Liestorff" to Kloster Wadegoz made by "felicis recordationis dominus Emecho quondam comes de Liningen" by charter dated Jan 1288[806]. Rudolf I King of Germany pledged “castrum Wer” to "domine Katarine de Ossinsten relicte quondam Emichonis de Liningen consanguinee nostre" as dowry for "Johannem comitem de Sponheim suum maritum" by charter dated 3 Jun 1290[807].
     "m firstly EMICH [V] Graf von Leiningen, of EMICH [IV] Graf von Leiningen in Landeck am Pfalz & his first wife Elisabeth --- (-1289).
     "m secondly ([3 Jun 1290]) JOHANN [II] Graf von Sponheim-Starkenberg, son of --- (-1324)."
Med Lands cites:
[806] Kremer, J. M. (1785) Genealogische Geschichte des altern ardennischen Geschlechts, Codex Diplomaticus (Frankfurt) ("Ardennisches Geschlecht Codex"), VI, Documenta Liningensia, VII, p. 252.
[807] Alsatia Diplomatica Tome II, DCCLXVII, p. 44.2


; Weis [MCS] line 17C-6.4

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Sponheim 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/sponheim/sponh6.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#KatharinaOchsensteinM1EmichLeiningen. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#EmichVLeiningendied1289
  4. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-6, p. 23. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.

Johan III "der Ältere" (?) Graf von Sponheim1,2

M, #12974, d. 20 December 1398
FatherHeinrich II (?) Graf von Sponheim1,2 d. 1322
MotherLaurette (?) Graefin von Ober-Salm1,2 d. 1345
Last Edited24 Nov 2004
     Johan III "der Ältere" (?) Graf von Sponheim married Mechtild (?) Pfaltzgrafin bei Rhein, daughter of Rudolf I 'der Stammler' (?) Duke of Upper-Bavaria, Pfalzgraf bei Rhein and Mathilde (?) Gräfin von Nassau, on 30 September 1331.3,4,1,2,5

Johan III "der Ältere" (?) Graf von Sponheim died on 20 December 1398.3,1,2,5
     He was Graf von Spanheim.3

; Leo van de pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg.1

Family

Mechtild (?) Pfaltzgrafin bei Rhein b. 1312, d. 25 Dec 1357
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Johann III 'der Ältere: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036582&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Sponheim 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/sponheim/sponh6.html
  3. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-7, p. 23. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde of Bavaria: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036581&tree=LEO
  5. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Wittel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wittel/wittel2.html1

Mechtild (?) Pfaltzgrafin bei Rhein1,2

F, #12975, b. 1312, d. 25 December 1357
FatherRudolf I 'der Stammler' (?) Duke of Upper-Bavaria, Pfalzgraf bei Rhein3,1,2 b. 9 Oct 1274, d. 12 Aug 1319
MotherMathilde (?) Gräfin von Nassau4,1,2 b. b 1280, d. 19 Jun 1323
Last Edited24 Nov 2004
     Mechtild (?) Pfaltzgrafin bei Rhein was born in 1312.1,2 She married Johan III "der Ältere" (?) Graf von Sponheim, son of Heinrich II (?) Graf von Sponheim and Laurette (?) Graefin von Ober-Salm, on 30 September 1331.5,1,6,7,2

Mechtild (?) Pfaltzgrafin bei Rhein died on 25 December 1357; Weis [MCS] line 17C-7 says d. 25 Nov 1375; Leo van de Pas says d. 25 Dec 1357; Sponheim 6 page says d. 1375; Wittel 2 page sayd d. 25.11.1375.5,1,7,2
     She was Pfaltzgrafin bei Rhein (Countess Palatine.)5

; Leo van de pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg.1 Mechtild (?) Pfaltzgrafin bei Rhein was also known as Mathilde (?) of Bavaria.1

; Mathilde, *1312, +25.11.1375, bur Himmelrode a.d.Eifel; m. 1330/1 Gf Johann III von Sponheim (+1398.)2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde of Bavaria: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036581&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Wittel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wittel/wittel2.html1
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rudolf I 'der Stammler': http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027172&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gräfin Mathilde von Nassau: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00017752&tree=LEO
  5. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-7, p. 23. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Johann III 'der Ältere: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036582&tree=LEO
  7. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Sponheim 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/sponheim/sponh6.html

Rudolf I 'der Stammler' (?) Duke of Upper-Bavaria, Pfalzgraf bei Rhein1,2,3,4,5

M, #12976, b. 9 October 1274, d. 12 August 1319
FatherLudwig II "der Strenge" (?) Duke of Bavaria, Count and Elector Palatine of the Rhine3,4,6 b. 13 Apr 1229, d. 2 Feb 1294
MotherMathilda (?) von Hapsburg7,3,4 b. 1253, d. 23 Dec 1304
Last Edited24 Jan 2020
     Rudolf I 'der Stammler' (?) Duke of Upper-Bavaria, Pfalzgraf bei Rhein was born on 9 October 1274 at Basel, Switzerland.2,3,4 He married Mathilde (?) Gräfin von Nassau, daughter of Adolf (?) Graf von Nassau, Emperor of Germany and Imagina/Imogene von Isenburg-Limburg, on 1 September 1294 at Nürnberg, Germany (now).8,2,3,9,10,4

Rudolf I 'der Stammler' (?) Duke of Upper-Bavaria, Pfalzgraf bei Rhein died on 12 August 1319 at age 44.2,3,4
      ; Leo van de pas cites: 1. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 31
2. Genealogie van het Vorstenhuis Nassau Zaltbommel, 1970 , Dr. A. W. E. Dek, Reference: 17.3

; [3m.] Duke Rudolf I of Upper Bavaria and Pfgf bei Rhein (1294-1317), *Basel 4.10.1274, +12.8.1319; m.Nürnberg 1.9.1294 Mechtild von Nassau (*before 1280 +19.6.1233); for his issue see http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wittel/wittel2.html1.4 He was Pfaltzgraf bei Rhein (Count-Palatine.)8 He was Pfgf bei Rhein between 1294 and 1317.4

Citations

  1. Eldest son and heir.
  2. [S752] Marcellus Donald Alexander R. von Redlich, compiler, Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. I (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1941 (1988 reprint)), p. 90. Hereinafter cited as von Redlich [1941] Charlemagne Desc. vol I.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rudolf I 'der Stammler': http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027172&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Wittel 1 page - The House of Wittelsbach: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wittel/wittel1.html1
  5. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Wittel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wittel/wittel2.html1
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ludwig II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013385&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde von Habsburg: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013548&tree=LEO
  8. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-7, p. 23. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gräfin Mathilde von Nassau: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00017752&tree=LEO
  10. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Nassau 1 page (The House of Nassau): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/nassau/nassau1.html
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adolf: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027173&tree=LEO
  12. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Wittelsbach 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wittel/witte2.html
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rudolf II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036530&tree=LEO
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ruprecht I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00444513&tree=LEO
  15. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#RuprechtIdied1390. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  16. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde of Bavaria: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036581&tree=LEO

Mathilde (?) Gräfin von Nassau1,2

F, #12977, b. before 1280, d. 19 June 1323
FatherAdolf (?) Graf von Nassau, Emperor of Germany3,2,1,4,5 b. c 1255, d. 2 Jul 1298
MotherImagina/Imogene von Isenburg-Limburg3,2,1,4 d. a 29 Aug 1317
Last Edited4 Feb 2020
     Mathilde (?) Gräfin von Nassau was born before 1280.1,6 She married Rudolf I 'der Stammler' (?) Duke of Upper-Bavaria, Pfalzgraf bei Rhein, son of Ludwig II "der Strenge" (?) Duke of Bavaria, Count and Elector Palatine of the Rhine and Mathilda (?) von Hapsburg, on 1 September 1294 at Nürnberg, Germany (now).7,3,8,2,1,9

Mathilde (?) Gräfin von Nassau died on 19 June 1323 at Heidelberg, Bavaria, Germany (now).2,1,6
      ; Leo van de pas cites: Genealogie van het Vorstenhuis Nassau Zaltbommel, 1970 , Dr. A. W. E. Dek, Reference: 17.2

; Weis [MCS] line 17C-7.7

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Nassau 1 page (The House of Nassau): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/nassau/nassau1.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gräfin Mathilde von Nassau: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00017752&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S752] Marcellus Donald Alexander R. von Redlich, compiler, Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. I (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1941 (1988 reprint)), p. 90. Hereinafter cited as von Redlich [1941] Charlemagne Desc. vol I.
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NASSAU.htm#Adolfdied1298. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adolf: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00017745&tree=LEO
  6. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Wittel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wittel/wittel2.html1
  7. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-7, p. 23. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rudolf I 'der Stammler': http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027172&tree=LEO
  9. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Wittel 1 page - The House of Wittelsbach: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wittel/wittel1.html1
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adolf: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027173&tree=LEO
  11. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Wittelsbach 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wittel/witte2.html
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rudolf II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036530&tree=LEO
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ruprecht I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00444513&tree=LEO
  14. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#RuprechtIdied1390
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde of Bavaria: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036581&tree=LEO

Mechtild (?) Graefin von Spanheim1

F, #12978, b. circa 1346, d. circa 1409
FatherJohan III "der Ältere" (?) Graf von Sponheim2,1 d. 20 Dec 1398
MotherMechtild (?) Pfaltzgrafin bei Rhein1,3 b. 1312, d. 25 Dec 1357
Last Edited19 Oct 2004
     Mechtild (?) Graefin von Spanheim was born circa 1346.4 She married Rudolf VI (?) Markgraf von Baden, son of Friedrich III (?) Markgraf von Baden and Margarete (?) von Baden, Dame d'Hericourt et de Florimont, in 1356.4,5,1

Mechtild (?) Graefin von Spanheim died circa 1409; Genealogy.EU (Sponheim 6 page) says d. 1407-1410.4,1
     She was Graefin von Spanheim.4

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Sponheim 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/sponheim/sponh6.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Johann III 'der Ältere: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036582&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde of Bavaria: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036581&tree=LEO
  4. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-8, p. 23. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  5. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Baden 2 page (The House of Zähringen): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/baden/baden2.html

Rudolf VI (?) Markgraf von Baden1

M, #12979, d. 21 March 1372
FatherFriedrich III (?) Markgraf von Baden1 b. c 1327, d. 2 Sep 1353
MotherMargarete (?) von Baden, Dame d'Hericourt et de Florimont1 d. 1 Sep 1367
Last Edited2 Jul 2003
     Rudolf VI (?) Markgraf von Baden married Mechtild (?) Graefin von Spanheim, daughter of Johan III "der Ältere" (?) Graf von Sponheim and Mechtild (?) Pfaltzgrafin bei Rhein, in 1356.2,1,3

Rudolf VI (?) Markgraf von Baden died on 21 March 1372.2,1
     He was Markgraf (Marquess) von Baden.2 He was Markgraf von Baden between 1353 and 1372.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Baden 2 page (The House of Zähringen): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/baden/baden2.html
  2. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-8, p. 23. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Sponheim 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/sponheim/sponh6.html

Friedrich III (?) Markgraf von Baden1

M, #12980, b. circa 1327, d. 2 September 1353
FatherRudolf IV (?) Markgraf von Baden1 d. 12 Jun 1348
MotherMarie (?) von Oettingen1 d. 10 Jun 1369
Last Edited2 Jul 2003
     Friedrich III (?) Markgraf von Baden was born circa 1327.1 He married Margarete (?) von Baden, Dame d'Hericourt et de Florimont, daughter of Rudolf Hesso (?) Markgraf von Baden and Jeanne (?) von Mompelgard, Dame d’Héricourt, Belfort et Châtelot, circa 1345.2,3,1

Friedrich III (?) Markgraf von Baden died on 2 September 1353.1
      .2 He was Markgraf von Baden between 1348 and 1353.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Baden 2 page (The House of Zähringen): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/baden/baden2.html
  2. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-8, p. 23. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Baden 1 page (The House of Zähringen): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/baden/baden1.html

Margarete (?) von Baden, Dame d'Hericourt et de Florimont1

F, #12981, d. 1 September 1367
FatherRudolf Hesso (?) Markgraf von Baden1,2 d. 17 Aug 1335
MotherJeanne (?) von Mompelgard, Dame d’Héricourt, Belfort et Châtelot1,3 d. bt 26 Aug 1347 - 11 Sep 1349
Last Edited21 Apr 2004
     Margarete (?) von Baden, Dame d'Hericourt et de Florimont married Friedrich III (?) Markgraf von Baden, son of Rudolf IV (?) Markgraf von Baden and Marie (?) von Oettingen, circa 1345.4,1,5

Margarete (?) von Baden, Dame d'Hericourt et de Florimont died on 1 September 1367.1
      .4

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Baden 1 page (The House of Zähringen): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/baden/baden1.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Markgraf Rudolf Hesso von Baden: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106331&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jeanne von Mömpelgard: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00060864&tree=LEO
  4. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-8, p. 23. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  5. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Baden 2 page (The House of Zähringen): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/baden/baden2.html

Bernhard I (?) Markgraf von Baden1

M, #12982, b. between 1350 and 1364
FatherRudolf VI (?) Markgraf von Baden1 d. 21 Mar 1372
MotherMechtild (?) Graefin von Spanheim1 b. c 1346, d. c 1409
Last Edited2 Jul 2003
     Bernhard I (?) Markgraf von Baden was born between 1350 and 1364.2,1 He married Margarete (?) Graefin von Hohenberg, daughter of Rudolf III (?) Graf von Hohenberg and Ida (?) Graefin von Toggenburg, in August 1384
; his 1st wife.2,1,3 Bernhard I (?) Markgraf von Baden and Margarete (?) Graefin von Hohenberg were divorced before 1393.2,1,3 Bernhard I (?) Markgraf von Baden married Anna (?) Graefin von Oettingen, daughter of Ludwig XI (?) Graf von Oettingen and Beatrix (?) Graefin von Helfenstein, in 1398
; his 2nd wife.2,1
Bernhard I (?) Markgraf von Baden died on 5 April 1431 at Baden, Germany (now).
      ; Markgraf Bernhard I von Baden (1372-1431), inherited Hachberg 1415, *1350/64, +Baden 5.4.1431; 1m: 1384 (div 1393) Margarete von Hohenberg (+26.2.1419); 2m: 1398 Anna von Oettingen (*ca 1380, +9.11.1436); all issue by 2m.1 He was Markgraf (Marquess) von Baden between 1372 and 1431.2,1

Family 1

Children

Family 2

Margarete (?) Graefin von Hohenberg d. 26 Feb 1419

Family 3

Anna (?) Graefin von Oettingen b. c 1380, d. 9 Nov 1436
Children

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Baden 2 page (The House of Zähringen): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/baden/baden2.html
  2. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-9, pp. 23-24. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Hohenzollern 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/hohz/hohenz1.html

Margarete (?) Graefin von Hohenberg1,2

F, #12983, d. 26 February 1419
FatherRudolf III (?) Graf von Hohenberg2 d. 1389
MotherIda (?) Graefin von Toggenburg2
Last Edited10 Apr 2004
     Margarete (?) Graefin von Hohenberg married Bernhard I (?) Markgraf von Baden, son of Rudolf VI (?) Markgraf von Baden and Mechtild (?) Graefin von Spanheim, in August 1384
; his 1st wife.3,1,2 Margarete (?) Graefin von Hohenberg married Hermann (?) Graf von Sulz, Landgraf im Klettgau before 20 April 1391
; her 2nd husband.2 Margarete (?) Graefin von Hohenberg and Bernhard I (?) Markgraf von Baden were divorced before 1393.3,1,2
Margarete (?) Graefin von Hohenberg died on 26 February 1419.3,1,2
     She was Graefin von Hohenberg.3

; Margareta, +1419; 1m: 1384 (div before 1391) Mgve Bernhard I of Baden (+1431); 2m: before 20.4.1391 Gf Hermann von Sulz, Ldgf im Klettgau (+1431.)2

Family 1

Bernhard I (?) Markgraf von Baden b. bt 1350 - 1364

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Baden 2 page (The House of Zähringen): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/baden/baden2.html
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Hohenzollern 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/hohz/hohenz1.html
  3. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-9, pp. 23-24. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.

Rudolf III (?) Graf von Hohenberg1

M, #12984, d. 1389
FatherRudolf II (?) Graf von Hohenberg1 d. 1335
MotherMargareta (?) von Nassau1 d. 1370
Last Edited26 Feb 2020
     Rudolf III (?) Graf von Hohenberg married Ida (?) Graefin von Toggenburg before 12 October 1360.2,1

Rudolf III (?) Graf von Hohenberg died in 1389.1
     He was Graf von Hohenberg.2

; Gf Rudolf III von Hohenberg, +1389; he sold the Gfschaft Hohenberg to Duke Leopold of Austria in 1381; m.before 12.10.1360 Ita von Toggenburg.1 Rudolf III (?) Graf von Hohenberg was also known as Rudolf IV von Hohenberg Graf von Hohenberg.

; Weis [MCS] line 17C-9.2

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Hohenzollern 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/hohz/hohenz1.html
  2. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-9, pp. 23-24. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.

Ida (?) Graefin von Toggenburg

F, #12985
Last Edited10 Apr 2004
     Ida (?) Graefin von Toggenburg married Rudolf III (?) Graf von Hohenberg, son of Rudolf II (?) Graf von Hohenberg and Margareta (?) von Nassau, before 12 October 1360.1,2

     Ida (?) Graefin von Toggenburg was Graefin von Toggenburg.1

.1

Citations

  1. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-9, pp. 23-24. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Hohenzollern 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/hohz/hohenz1.html

Anna (?) Graefin von Oettingen1

F, #12986, b. circa 1380, d. 9 November 1436
FatherLudwig XI (?) Graf von Oettingen2
MotherBeatrix (?) Graefin von Helfenstein3 d. 1385
Last Edited9 Aug 2004
     Anna (?) Graefin von Oettingen was born circa 1380.1 She married Bernhard I (?) Markgraf von Baden, son of Rudolf VI (?) Markgraf von Baden and Mechtild (?) Graefin von Spanheim, in 1398
; his 2nd wife.4,1
Anna (?) Graefin von Oettingen died on 9 November 1436.4,1
     She was Graefin von Oettingen.4

Family

Bernhard I (?) Markgraf von Baden b. bt 1350 - 1364
Children

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Baden 2 page (The House of Zähringen): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/baden/baden2.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ludwig XI: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079347&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrix von Helfenstein: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079348&tree=LEO
  4. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-9, pp. 23-24. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.

Jakob I (?) Markgraf von Baden1

M, #12987, b. 15 March 1407, d. 13 October 1453
FatherBernhard I (?) Markgraf von Baden1 b. bt 1350 - 1364
MotherAnna (?) Graefin von Oettingen1 b. c 1380, d. 9 Nov 1436
Last Edited9 Dec 2012
     Jakob I (?) Markgraf von Baden was born on 15 March 1407.2,1 He married Catherine (?) de Lorraine, daughter of Charles I (?) Duc de Lorraine and Margarete (?) Prinzessin von der Pfalz, circa 1426
; Genealogy.EU (Baden 2 and Lorraine 2 pages) say m. by 25 July 1422.2,1,3,4
Jakob I (?) Markgraf von Baden died on 13 October 1453 at Mühlburg, Germany (now), at age 46.2,1
     He was Markgraf von Baden between 1431 and 1453.2,1

Family 1

Child

Family 2

Catherine (?) de Lorraine b. c 1411, d. 1 Mar 1439
Children

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Baden 2 page (The House of Zähringen): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/baden/baden2.html
  2. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-10, p. 24. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine2.html
  4. [S2369] Francisco Tavares de Almeida, "de Almeida email 25 April 2010: "Re: Lorraine puzzle"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 25 April 2010, Catherine married supposedly ca. 1426 while you have bef. 25.7.1422 and eldest son Karl b. 1424 what, if true, makes 1411 impossible for Catherine's birthdate.. Hereinafter cited as "de Almeida email 25 April 2010."

Catherine (?) de Lorraine1

F, #12988, b. circa 1411, d. 1 March 1439
FatherCharles I (?) Duc de Lorraine1 b. 1364, d. 25 Jan 1431
MotherMargarete (?) Prinzessin von der Pfalz1,2 b. 1376, d. 26 Aug 1434
Last Edited9 Dec 2012
     Catherine (?) de Lorraine was born circa 1411; Genealogy. EU says b. 1407.1,3 She married Jakob I (?) Markgraf von Baden, son of Bernhard I (?) Markgraf von Baden and Anna (?) Graefin von Oettingen, circa 1426
; Genealogy.EU (Baden 2 and Lorraine 2 pages) say m. by 25 July 1422.4,5,1,6
Catherine (?) de Lorraine died on 1 March 1439 at Baden, Germany (now).4,1
      ; per de Almeida: [quote] Fwiw the french ROGLO has Isabelle b. ca. 1410 and Catherine b. ca. 1411.
Isabelle's elder son was born 2.8.1425 Nancy so Isabelle, if anything was born before 1410.
Catherine married supposedly ca. 1426 while you have bef. 25.7.1422 and eldest son Karl b. 1424 what, if true, makes 1411 impossible for Catherine's birthdate.

I found somehow suspicious this date 1424 as next son is 4 years later and the other 6 occur with shorter intervals of 1 or 2 years. If the date "bef. 25.7.1422" could be an error then it is possible that Karl was born 1427 but still a tightened chronology.

I would bet in something like 1406 as the reality of ca. 1410 for Isabelle's birth because the fact that she was the heir can not be ignored and I do not find plausible that both sisters had consumated marriages at 15 and children at 16.
You will have to weight the sources for Catharine's marriage "bef. 25.7.1422" - could this be the contract date for a marriage consumated 4 years later? - against 1410 for Isabelle's birth as both are not compatible.
Regards,
Francisco
(Portugal)
[end quote].6

Family

Jakob I (?) Markgraf von Baden b. 15 Mar 1407, d. 13 Oct 1453
Children

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine2.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margarete bei Rhein: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00004900&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2369] Francisco Tavares de Almeida, "de Almeida email 25 April 2010: "Re: Lorraine puzzle"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 25 April 2010, Fwiw the french ROGLO has Isabelle b. ca. 1410 and Catherine b. ca. 1411. Isabelle's elder son was born 2.8.1425 Nancy so Isabelle, if anything was born before 1410.. Hereinafter cited as "de Almeida email 25 April 2010."
  4. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-10, p. 24. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  5. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Baden 2 page (The House of Zähringen): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/baden/baden2.html
  6. [S2369] Francisco Tavares de Almeida, "de Almeida email 25 April 2010," e-mail to e-mail address, 25 April 2010, Catherine married supposedly ca. 1426 while you have bef. 25.7.1422 and eldest son Karl b. 1424 what, if true, makes 1411 impossible for Catherine's birthdate.

Ludwig XI (?) Graf von Oettingen1

M, #12989
Last Edited9 Aug 2004
     Ludwig XI (?) Graf von Oettingen married Beatrix (?) Graefin von Helfenstein, daughter of Ulrich V (?) Graf von Helfenstein, on 15 December 1374
; date is of contract or similar.1,2
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels Fürstliche Häuser , Reference: 1959 4
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XII 58; XVI 99
3. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: Q 86, Q 13366, Q 93740.1 Ludwig XI (?) Graf von Oettingen was Graf von Oettingen.3,1

Family

Beatrix (?) Graefin von Helfenstein d. 1385
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ludwig XI: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079347&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrix von Helfenstein: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079348&tree=LEO
  3. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-9, p. 24. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.

Beatrix (?) Graefin von Helfenstein1

F, #12990, d. 1385
FatherUlrich V (?) Graf von Helfenstein2 d. 7 Apr 1372
Last Edited9 Aug 2004
     Beatrix (?) Graefin von Helfenstein married Ludwig XI (?) Graf von Oettingen on 15 December 1374
; date is of contract or similar.3,1
Beatrix (?) Graefin von Helfenstein died in 1385.1
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels Fürstliche Häuser , Reference: 1959 4
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XII 58.1 She was Graefin von Helfenstein.4,1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrix von Helfenstein: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079348&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ulrich V: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106046&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ludwig XI: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079347&tree=LEO
  4. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 17C-9, p. 24. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.