Gilbert Horton1
M, #96091, b. 2 October 1881, d. 31 December 1957
Father | Almarion Horton1 b. 1 Dec 1841, d. 8 Sep 1887 |
Mother | Mary I. McLean1 b. Apr 1851, d. 14 Jan 1921 |
Charts | Chart of Descendants of Alexander Armstrong, Sr Chart of Descendants of John S. McLean |
Last Edited | 31 Mar 2021 |
Gilbert Horton married Martha Marie Freuler.2
Gilbert Horton was born on 2 October 1881 at Montana, USA; Aged 17 in 1900 census
1900 Census says b. Oct 1882; Grave marker says b. Oct. 2, 1881.1,3
Gilbert Horton died on 31 December 1957 at Jackson, Amador Co., California, USA, at age 76.3
Gilbert Horton was buried after 31 December 1957 at Saint Patrick Catholic Cemetery, Jackson, Amador Co., California, USA; From Find A Grave:
Gilbert Horton was listed as a resident in Fred Tremain Horton and Emma B. Miller's household in the census report on 7 June 1900 at Ward 10, Rochester, Monroe Co., New York, USA; p. 8, lines 57-60, dwelling 161, family 165
57 HORTON, Fred T. Head W M May 1873 27 Married 5yrs NY NY NY Coachman
58 " , Emma B. Wife W F Oct 1873 26 Married 5yrs 2-children-born 1-child-living NY Unk Unk
29 " , Roy G. Son W M Jan 1896 Single NY NY NY
60 " , Gilbert Brother W M Oct 1882 17 Single Montana NY NY Machinist.1
Gilbert Horton was born on 2 October 1881 at Montana, USA; Aged 17 in 1900 census
1900 Census says b. Oct 1882; Grave marker says b. Oct. 2, 1881.1,3
Gilbert Horton died on 31 December 1957 at Jackson, Amador Co., California, USA, at age 76.3
Gilbert Horton was buried after 31 December 1957 at Saint Patrick Catholic Cemetery, Jackson, Amador Co., California, USA; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 2 Oct 1881, Helena, Lewis and Clark County, Montana, USA
DEATH 31 Dec 1957 (aged 76), Jackson, Amador County, California, USA
Gilbert died of injuries from an accident when he was hit by a car chasing a dog on Hwy 88.
Family Members
Spouse
Martha Marie Freuler Horton 1897–1987
Children
Leo Guy Horton 1920–1944
BURIAL Saint Patrick Catholic Cemetery, Jackson, Amador County, California, USA
PLOT Section 1, 43a
Created by: Steve Jones
Added: 7 Jan 2016
Find a Grave Memorial 156825429.3
DEATH 31 Dec 1957 (aged 76), Jackson, Amador County, California, USA
Gilbert died of injuries from an accident when he was hit by a car chasing a dog on Hwy 88.
Family Members
Spouse
Martha Marie Freuler Horton 1897–1987
Children
Leo Guy Horton 1920–1944
BURIAL Saint Patrick Catholic Cemetery, Jackson, Amador County, California, USA
PLOT Section 1, 43a
Created by: Steve Jones
Added: 7 Jan 2016
Find a Grave Memorial 156825429.3
Gilbert Horton was listed as a resident in Fred Tremain Horton and Emma B. Miller's household in the census report on 7 June 1900 at Ward 10, Rochester, Monroe Co., New York, USA; p. 8, lines 57-60, dwelling 161, family 165
57 HORTON, Fred T. Head W M May 1873 27 Married 5yrs NY NY NY Coachman
58 " , Emma B. Wife W F Oct 1873 26 Married 5yrs 2-children-born 1-child-living NY Unk Unk
29 " , Roy G. Son W M Jan 1896 Single NY NY NY
60 " , Gilbert Brother W M Oct 1882 17 Single Montana NY NY Machinist.1
Family | Martha Marie Freuler b. 6 Mar 1897, d. 17 Mar 1987 |
Citations
- [S5067] 1900 Federal Census, 1900 Census NY Monroe Co Rochester Ward 10, Year: 1900; Census Place: Rochester Ward 10, Monroe, New York; Page: 8; Enumeration District: 0070; FHL microfilm: 1241075
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7602&h=55846126
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7602/images/4114576_00016 - [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 31 March 2021), memorial page for Martha Marie Freuler Horton (6 Mar 1897–17 Mar 1987), Find a Grave Memorial no. 156825487, citing Saint Patrick Catholic Cemetery, Jackson, Amador County, California, USA; Maintained by Steve Jones (contributor 48503494), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156825487. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 31 March 2021), memorial page for Gilbert McLean Horton (2 Oct 1881–31 Dec 1957), Find a Grave Memorial no. 156825429, citing Saint Patrick Catholic Cemetery, Jackson, Amador County, California, USA; Maintained by Steve Jones (contributor 48503494), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156825429
Roy G. Horton1
M, #96092, b. January 1896
Father | Fred Tremain Horton1 b. 17 May 1874 |
Mother | Emma B. Miller1 b. Oct 1873, d. 4 Dec 1966 |
Charts | Chart of Descendants of Alexander Armstrong, Sr Chart of Descendants of John S. McLean |
Last Edited | 31 Mar 2021 |
Roy G. Horton was born in January 1896 at Rochester, Monroe Co., New York, USA; Aged 6 in 1900 census.1
Roy G. Horton was listed as a resident in Fred Tremain Horton and Emma B. Miller's household in the census report on 7 June 1900 at Ward 10, Rochester, Monroe Co., New York, USA; p. 8, lines 57-60, dwelling 161, family 165
57 HORTON, Fred T. Head W M May 1873 27 Married 5yrs NY NY NY Coachman
58 " , Emma B. Wife W F Oct 1873 26 Married 5yrs 2-children-born 1-child-living NY Unk Unk
29 " , Roy G. Son W M Jan 1896 Single NY NY NY
60 " , Gilbert Brother W M Oct 1882 17 Single Montana NY NY Machinist.1
Roy G. Horton was listed as a resident in Fred Tremain Horton and Emma B. Miller's household in the census report on 7 June 1900 at Ward 10, Rochester, Monroe Co., New York, USA; p. 8, lines 57-60, dwelling 161, family 165
57 HORTON, Fred T. Head W M May 1873 27 Married 5yrs NY NY NY Coachman
58 " , Emma B. Wife W F Oct 1873 26 Married 5yrs 2-children-born 1-child-living NY Unk Unk
29 " , Roy G. Son W M Jan 1896 Single NY NY NY
60 " , Gilbert Brother W M Oct 1882 17 Single Montana NY NY Machinist.1
Citations
- [S5067] 1900 Federal Census, 1900 Census NY Monroe Co Rochester Ward 10, Year: 1900; Census Place: Rochester Ward 10, Monroe, New York; Page: 8; Enumeration District: 0070; FHL microfilm: 1241075
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7602&h=55846126
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7602/images/4114576_00016
Martha Marie Freuler1
F, #96093, b. 6 March 1897, d. 17 March 1987
Charts | Chart of Descendants of Alexander Armstrong, Sr Chart of Descendants of John S. McLean |
Last Edited | 31 Mar 2021 |
Martha Marie Freuler married Gilbert Horton, son of Almarion Horton and Mary I. McLean.1
Martha Marie Freuler was born on 6 March 1897 at New Jersey, USA.1
Martha Marie Freuler died on 17 March 1987 at Sacramento Co., California, USA, at age 90.1
Martha Marie Freuler was buried after 17 March 1987 at Saint Patrick Catholic Cemetery, Jackson, Amador Co., California, USA; From Find A Grave:
Martha Marie Freuler was born on 6 March 1897 at New Jersey, USA.1
Martha Marie Freuler died on 17 March 1987 at Sacramento Co., California, USA, at age 90.1
Martha Marie Freuler was buried after 17 March 1987 at Saint Patrick Catholic Cemetery, Jackson, Amador Co., California, USA; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 6 Mar 1897, New Jersey, USA
DEATH 17 Mar 1987 (aged 90), Sacramento County, California, USA
Family Members
Parents
Charles Achatz Freuler 1868–1960
Anna Helena Wuelfing Freuler 1873–1964
Spouse
Gilbert McLean Horton 1881–1957
Siblings
Charles Wenzel Freuler 1898–1988
Edmund Peter Freuler 1900–1979
Amelia V. Freuler Schirmer 1903–1999
George Hilary Freuler 1905–1994
Sigmund Ambrose Freuler 1909–1956
Madeline Monica Freuler Wuelfing 1911–1978
Children
Leo Guy Horton 1920–1944
BURIAL Saint Patrick Catholic Cemetery, Jackson, Amador County, California, USA
PLOT Section 1, 43c
Created by: Steve Jones
Added: 7 Jan 2016
Find a Grave Memorial 156825487.1
DEATH 17 Mar 1987 (aged 90), Sacramento County, California, USA
Family Members
Parents
Charles Achatz Freuler 1868–1960
Anna Helena Wuelfing Freuler 1873–1964
Spouse
Gilbert McLean Horton 1881–1957
Siblings
Charles Wenzel Freuler 1898–1988
Edmund Peter Freuler 1900–1979
Amelia V. Freuler Schirmer 1903–1999
George Hilary Freuler 1905–1994
Sigmund Ambrose Freuler 1909–1956
Madeline Monica Freuler Wuelfing 1911–1978
Children
Leo Guy Horton 1920–1944
BURIAL Saint Patrick Catholic Cemetery, Jackson, Amador County, California, USA
PLOT Section 1, 43c
Created by: Steve Jones
Added: 7 Jan 2016
Find a Grave Memorial 156825487.1
Family | Gilbert Horton b. 2 Oct 1881, d. 31 Dec 1957 |
Citations
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 31 March 2021), memorial page for Martha Marie Freuler Horton (6 Mar 1897–17 Mar 1987), Find a Grave Memorial no. 156825487, citing Saint Patrick Catholic Cemetery, Jackson, Amador County, California, USA; Maintained by Steve Jones (contributor 48503494), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156825487. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
George Edwin Martin1
M, #96094, b. 18 June 1858, d. 27 May 1920
Father | Harrison W. "Harry" Martin1 b. 25 Jul 1838, d. 4 Mar 1918 |
Mother | Phoeba Jane Whitney1 b. 5 Oct 1843, d. 8 Jul 1864 |
Charts | Chart of Descendants of Alexander Armstrong, Sr Chart of Descendants of John S. McLean |
Last Edited | 1 Apr 2021 |
George Edwin Martin was born on 18 June 1858 at Elgin, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA.1 He married Tamzin "Tamie" E. Alden on 1 October 1881.2
George Edwin Martin died on 27 May 1920 at Erie, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA, at age 61; Ancestry.com - Pennsylvania, U.S., Death Certificates, 1906-1967
Source Citation: Pennsylvania Historic and Museum Commission; Harrisburg, PA; Pennsylvania (State). Death Certificates, 1906-1968; Certificate Number Range: 055501-058500
Source Information: Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, U.S., Death Certificates, 1906-1967 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data: Pennsylvania (State). Death certificates, 1906–1968. Series 11.90 (1,905 cartons). Records of the Pennsylvania Department of Health, Record Group 11. Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.1
George Edwin Martin was buried on 31 May 1920 at Lake Side Cemetery, Erie, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; Place of Burial taken from death certificate. No memorial was found on Find A Grave.1
George Edwin Martin died on 27 May 1920 at Erie, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA, at age 61; Ancestry.com - Pennsylvania, U.S., Death Certificates, 1906-1967
Record ID 5164::759214
Record Page Link
Image Page Open
Name George Edwin Martin
Gender Male
Race White
Age 61
Birth Date 18 June 1858
Birth Place Elyin, Pennsylvania
Death Date 27 May 1920
Death Place Erie, Erie, Pennsylvania, USA
Father Harrison W Martin
Mother Nancy Jane Martin
Certificate Number 57736
Record Page Link
Image Page Open
Name George Edwin Martin
Gender Male
Race White
Age 61
Birth Date 18 June 1858
Birth Place Elyin, Pennsylvania
Death Date 27 May 1920
Death Place Erie, Erie, Pennsylvania, USA
Father Harrison W Martin
Mother Nancy Jane Martin
Certificate Number 57736
Source Citation: Pennsylvania Historic and Museum Commission; Harrisburg, PA; Pennsylvania (State). Death Certificates, 1906-1968; Certificate Number Range: 055501-058500
Source Information: Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, U.S., Death Certificates, 1906-1967 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data: Pennsylvania (State). Death certificates, 1906–1968. Series 11.90 (1,905 cartons). Records of the Pennsylvania Department of Health, Record Group 11. Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.1
George Edwin Martin was buried on 31 May 1920 at Lake Side Cemetery, Erie, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; Place of Burial taken from death certificate. No memorial was found on Find A Grave.1
Family | Tamzin "Tamie" E. Alden b. 20 May 1858 |
Citations
- [S2354] Ancestry.Com Web Site, online http://search.ancestry.com/, Pennsylvania, U.S., Death Certificates, 1906-1967
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=5164&h=759214
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/5164/images/41381_622204_0913-02359?_ga=2.126711245.1318652099.1616074811-443359675.1574024807. Hereinafter cited as Ancestry.Com Web Site. - [S2354] Ancestry.Com Web Site, online http://search.ancestry.com/, North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61157&h=4011624
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61157/images/46155_b290496-00362
Tamzin "Tamie" E. Alden1
F, #96095, b. 20 May 1858
Charts | Chart of Descendants of Alexander Armstrong, Sr Chart of Descendants of John S. McLean |
Last Edited | 1 Apr 2021 |
Tamzin "Tamie" E. Alden was born on 20 May 1858.1 She married George Edwin Martin, son of Harrison W. "Harry" Martin and Phoeba Jane Whitney, on 1 October 1881.1
Family | George Edwin Martin b. 18 Jun 1858, d. 27 May 1920 |
Citations
- [S2354] Ancestry.Com Web Site, online http://search.ancestry.com/, North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61157&h=4011624
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61157/images/46155_b290496-00362. Hereinafter cited as Ancestry.Com Web Site.
Anna (?)1
F, #96096, b. January 1843
Last Edited | 1 Apr 2021 |
Anna (?) married Harrison W. "Harry" Martin
;
His 2nd wife.1 Anna (?) was born in January 1843 at New Jersey, USA.1
Anna (?) was buried at Concord Cemetery, Elgin, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; From Find A Grave:
;
His 2nd wife.1 Anna (?) was born in January 1843 at New Jersey, USA.1
Anna (?) was buried at Concord Cemetery, Elgin, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH Jan 1843, New Jersey, USA
DEATH unknown
Family Members
Spouse
Harrison W. Martin 1838–1918
BURIAL Concord Cemetery, Elgin, Erie County, Pennsylvania, USA
PLOT Sect 4, Lot 22
Created by: Rusty Davis
Added: 14 May 2009
Find a Grave Memorial 37084615.1
DEATH unknown
Family Members
Spouse
Harrison W. Martin 1838–1918
BURIAL Concord Cemetery, Elgin, Erie County, Pennsylvania, USA
PLOT Sect 4, Lot 22
Created by: Rusty Davis
Added: 14 May 2009
Find a Grave Memorial 37084615.1
Family | Harrison W. "Harry" Martin b. 25 Jul 1838, d. 4 Mar 1918 |
Citations
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 01 April 2021), memorial page for Anna Martin (Jan 1843–unknown), Find a Grave Memorial no. 37084615, citing Concord Cemetery, Elgin, Erie County, Pennsylvania, USA; Maintained by Rusty Davis (contributor 47039832), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/37084615. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
Egbert E. French1
M, #96097, b. September 1841, d. 10 June 1925
Father | Abner French2 b. c 1797 |
Charts | Chart of Descendants of Alexander Armstrong, Sr Chart of Descendants of John S. McLean |
Last Edited | 24 Jul 2021 |
Egbert E. French was born in September 1841 at New York, USA.1 He married Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean, daughter of William Edwin McLean and Clarissa A. Gillett, on 27 October 1868 at Union Mills (now Union City), Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA,
; Married 32 years in 1900 census. Date per Schober/Craig Family Tree on Ancestry.1,3,4
Egbert E. French died on 10 June 1925 at Portland, Multnomah Co., Oregon, USA, at age 83; Image of death notice attached from Find A Grave memorial.1
Egbert E. French was buried after 10 June 1925 at Prospect Hill Cemetery, Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; From Find A Grave:
Egbert E. French and Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean appeared in the census of 29 August 1870 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; p. 561-A, lines 14-16, dwelling 470, family 519
14 FRENCH, B. 27 M W Ins Agt $5000 NY
15 " , Lizzie 23 F W Keeps House PA
16 " , Florence 7/12 F W NE Dec.5
Egbert E. French and Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean appeared in the census of 7 June 1880 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; p. 329-C, lines 1-11, dwelling 166, family 171
1 FRENCH, E. E. W M 39 [1841] Married Grocer NY NY VT
2 " , Elizabeth W F 34 [1846] Wife Maried Keeping House PA NY NY
3 " , Florence W F 10 [1870] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
4 " , Georgie W F 7 [1873] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
5 " , John W M 5 [1875] Son Single NE NY PA
6 " , Edwin W M 3 [1877] Son Single NE NY PA
7 " , Lacy W M 1 [1879] Son Single NE NY PA
8 MCLEAN, Clark W M 21 [1859] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
9 " , Lynn W M 19 [1861] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
10 FRENCH, Abner W M 83 [1797] Father Widowed NY NY NY
11 KEEFE, Maggie W F 19 [1861] Servant Single Servant TN Ire Ire.2
; Married 32 years in 1900 census. Date per Schober/Craig Family Tree on Ancestry.1,3,4
Egbert E. French died on 10 June 1925 at Portland, Multnomah Co., Oregon, USA, at age 83; Image of death notice attached from Find A Grave memorial.1
Egbert E. French was buried after 10 June 1925 at Prospect Hill Cemetery, Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH Sep 1841, New York, USA
DEATH 10 Jun 1925 (aged 83), Portland, Multnomah County, Oregon, USA
Family Members
Spouse
Elizabeth M McClean French 1846–1916
Children
Florence French Craig 1869–1965
Gravesite Details Was involved in the Knights of Pythias, was the secretary of the Grand Lodge of Nebraska, holding the title of Grand Keeper of the Records for 20 years and serving as Supreme Representative for six years starting in 1872.
Children
Florence French Craig 1869–1965
BURIAL Prospect Hill Cemetery, Omaha, Douglas County, Nebraska, USA
PLOT lot 101
Created by: dolph72
Added: 14 Jun 2007
Find a Grave Memorial 19881587.1
DEATH 10 Jun 1925 (aged 83), Portland, Multnomah County, Oregon, USA
Family Members
Spouse
Elizabeth M McClean French 1846–1916
Children
Florence French Craig 1869–1965
Gravesite Details Was involved in the Knights of Pythias, was the secretary of the Grand Lodge of Nebraska, holding the title of Grand Keeper of the Records for 20 years and serving as Supreme Representative for six years starting in 1872.
Children
Florence French Craig 1869–1965
BURIAL Prospect Hill Cemetery, Omaha, Douglas County, Nebraska, USA
PLOT lot 101
Created by: dolph72
Added: 14 Jun 2007
Find a Grave Memorial 19881587.1
Egbert E. French and Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean appeared in the census of 29 August 1870 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; p. 561-A, lines 14-16, dwelling 470, family 519
14 FRENCH, B. 27 M W Ins Agt $5000 NY
15 " , Lizzie 23 F W Keeps House PA
16 " , Florence 7/12 F W NE Dec.5
Egbert E. French and Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean appeared in the census of 7 June 1880 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; p. 329-C, lines 1-11, dwelling 166, family 171
1 FRENCH, E. E. W M 39 [1841] Married Grocer NY NY VT
2 " , Elizabeth W F 34 [1846] Wife Maried Keeping House PA NY NY
3 " , Florence W F 10 [1870] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
4 " , Georgie W F 7 [1873] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
5 " , John W M 5 [1875] Son Single NE NY PA
6 " , Edwin W M 3 [1877] Son Single NE NY PA
7 " , Lacy W M 1 [1879] Son Single NE NY PA
8 MCLEAN, Clark W M 21 [1859] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
9 " , Lynn W M 19 [1861] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
10 FRENCH, Abner W M 83 [1797] Father Widowed NY NY NY
11 KEEFE, Maggie W F 19 [1861] Servant Single Servant TN Ire Ire.2
Family | Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean b. 27 Oct 1846, d. 1 Jan 1916 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 02 April 2021), memorial page for Egbert E French (Sep 1841–10 Jun 1925), Find a Grave Memorial no. 19881587, citing Prospect Hill Cemetery, Omaha, Douglas County, Nebraska, USA; Maintained by dolph72 (contributor 46897673), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/19881587. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S5074] 1880 Federal Census, 1880 Census NE Douglas Co Omaha, Year: 1880; Census Place: Omaha, Douglas, Nebraska; Roll: 748; Page: 329C; Enumeration District: 024
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=6742&h=33119080
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6742/images/4242190-00241 - [S2338] Ancestry.Com Family Trees, online http://trees.ancestry.com/, Schober/Craig Family Tree - Elizabeth McLean: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/24042156/person/27325633293/facts. Hereinafter cited as Ancestry.Com Family Trees.
- [S5072] 1900 Federal Census, 1900 Census NE Douglas Co Omaha, Year: 1900; Census Place: Omaha Ward 6, Douglas, Nebraska; Page: 4; Enumeration District: 0058; FHL microfilm: 1240924
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7602&h=30871245
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7602/images/4119886_00520 - [S5073] 1870 Federal Census, 1870 Census NE Douglas Co Omaha, Year: 1870; Census Place: Omaha, Douglas, Nebraska; Roll: M593_829; Page: 561A; Family History Library Film: 55232
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7163&h=9083059
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7163/images/4273886_00401
Florence French1
F, #96098, b. December 1869
Father | Egbert E. French1 b. Sep 1841, d. 10 Jun 1925 |
Mother | Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean1 b. 27 Oct 1846, d. 1 Jan 1916 |
Charts | Chart of Descendants of Alexander Armstrong, Sr Chart of Descendants of John S. McLean |
Last Edited | 2 Apr 2021 |
Florence French was born in December 1869 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; Aged 7 months and born "Dec" in 1870 census.1
Florence French was listed as a resident in Egbert E. French and Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean's household in the census report on 29 August 1870 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; p. 561-A, lines 14-16, dwelling 470, family 519
14 FRENCH, B. 27 M W Ins Agt $5000 NY
15 " , Lizzie 23 F W Keeps House PA
16 " , Florence 7/12 F W NE Dec.1
Florence French was listed as a resident in Egbert E. French and Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean's household in the census report on 7 June 1880 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; p. 329-C, lines 1-11, dwelling 166, family 171
1 FRENCH, E. E. W M 39 [1841] Married Grocer NY NY VT
2 " , Elizabeth W F 34 [1846] Wife Maried Keeping House PA NY NY
3 " , Florence W F 10 [1870] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
4 " , Georgie W F 7 [1873] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
5 " , John W M 5 [1875] Son Single NE NY PA
6 " , Edwin W M 3 [1877] Son Single NE NY PA
7 " , Lacy W M 1 [1879] Son Single NE NY PA
8 MCLEAN, Clark W M 21 [1859] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
9 " , Lynn W M 19 [1861] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
10 FRENCH, Abner W M 83 [1797] Father Widowed NY NY NY
11 KEEFE, Maggie W F 19 [1861] Servant Single Servant TN Ire Ire.2
Florence French was listed as a resident in Egbert E. French and Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean's household in the census report on 29 August 1870 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; p. 561-A, lines 14-16, dwelling 470, family 519
14 FRENCH, B. 27 M W Ins Agt $5000 NY
15 " , Lizzie 23 F W Keeps House PA
16 " , Florence 7/12 F W NE Dec.1
Florence French was listed as a resident in Egbert E. French and Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean's household in the census report on 7 June 1880 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; p. 329-C, lines 1-11, dwelling 166, family 171
1 FRENCH, E. E. W M 39 [1841] Married Grocer NY NY VT
2 " , Elizabeth W F 34 [1846] Wife Maried Keeping House PA NY NY
3 " , Florence W F 10 [1870] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
4 " , Georgie W F 7 [1873] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
5 " , John W M 5 [1875] Son Single NE NY PA
6 " , Edwin W M 3 [1877] Son Single NE NY PA
7 " , Lacy W M 1 [1879] Son Single NE NY PA
8 MCLEAN, Clark W M 21 [1859] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
9 " , Lynn W M 19 [1861] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
10 FRENCH, Abner W M 83 [1797] Father Widowed NY NY NY
11 KEEFE, Maggie W F 19 [1861] Servant Single Servant TN Ire Ire.2
Citations
- [S5073] 1870 Federal Census, 1870 Census NE Douglas Co Omaha, Year: 1870; Census Place: Omaha, Douglas, Nebraska; Roll: M593_829; Page: 561A; Family History Library Film: 55232
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7163&h=9083059
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7163/images/4273886_00401 - [S5074] 1880 Federal Census, 1880 Census NE Douglas Co Omaha, Year: 1880; Census Place: Omaha, Douglas, Nebraska; Roll: 748; Page: 329C; Enumeration District: 024
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=6742&h=33119080
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6742/images/4242190-00241
Georgie French1
F, #96099, b. circa 1873
Father | Egbert E. French1 b. Sep 1841, d. 10 Jun 1925 |
Mother | Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean1 b. 27 Oct 1846, d. 1 Jan 1916 |
Charts | Chart of Descendants of Alexander Armstrong, Sr Chart of Descendants of John S. McLean |
Last Edited | 2 Apr 2021 |
Georgie French was born circa 1873 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; Aged 7 in 1880 census.1
Georgie French was listed as a resident in Egbert E. French and Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean's household in the census report on 7 June 1880 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; p. 329-C, lines 1-11, dwelling 166, family 171
1 FRENCH, E. E. W M 39 [1841] Married Grocer NY NY VT
2 " , Elizabeth W F 34 [1846] Wife Maried Keeping House PA NY NY
3 " , Florence W F 10 [1870] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
4 " , Georgie W F 7 [1873] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
5 " , John W M 5 [1875] Son Single NE NY PA
6 " , Edwin W M 3 [1877] Son Single NE NY PA
7 " , Lacy W M 1 [1879] Son Single NE NY PA
8 MCLEAN, Clark W M 21 [1859] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
9 " , Lynn W M 19 [1861] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
10 FRENCH, Abner W M 83 [1797] Father Widowed NY NY NY
11 KEEFE, Maggie W F 19 [1861] Servant Single Servant TN Ire Ire.1
Georgie French was listed as a resident in Egbert E. French and Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean's household in the census report on 7 June 1880 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; p. 329-C, lines 1-11, dwelling 166, family 171
1 FRENCH, E. E. W M 39 [1841] Married Grocer NY NY VT
2 " , Elizabeth W F 34 [1846] Wife Maried Keeping House PA NY NY
3 " , Florence W F 10 [1870] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
4 " , Georgie W F 7 [1873] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
5 " , John W M 5 [1875] Son Single NE NY PA
6 " , Edwin W M 3 [1877] Son Single NE NY PA
7 " , Lacy W M 1 [1879] Son Single NE NY PA
8 MCLEAN, Clark W M 21 [1859] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
9 " , Lynn W M 19 [1861] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
10 FRENCH, Abner W M 83 [1797] Father Widowed NY NY NY
11 KEEFE, Maggie W F 19 [1861] Servant Single Servant TN Ire Ire.1
Citations
- [S5074] 1880 Federal Census, 1880 Census NE Douglas Co Omaha, Year: 1880; Census Place: Omaha, Douglas, Nebraska; Roll: 748; Page: 329C; Enumeration District: 024
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=6742&h=33119080
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6742/images/4242190-00241
John French1
M, #96100, b. circa 1875
Father | Egbert E. French1 b. Sep 1841, d. 10 Jun 1925 |
Mother | Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean1 b. 27 Oct 1846, d. 1 Jan 1916 |
Charts | Chart of Descendants of Alexander Armstrong, Sr Chart of Descendants of John S. McLean |
Last Edited | 2 Apr 2021 |
John French was born circa 1875 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; Aged 5 in 1880 census.1
John French was listed as a resident in Egbert E. French and Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean's household in the census report on 7 June 1880 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; p. 329-C, lines 1-11, dwelling 166, family 171
1 FRENCH, E. E. W M 39 [1841] Married Grocer NY NY VT
2 " , Elizabeth W F 34 [1846] Wife Maried Keeping House PA NY NY
3 " , Florence W F 10 [1870] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
4 " , Georgie W F 7 [1873] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
5 " , John W M 5 [1875] Son Single NE NY PA
6 " , Edwin W M 3 [1877] Son Single NE NY PA
7 " , Lacy W M 1 [1879] Son Single NE NY PA
8 MCLEAN, Clark W M 21 [1859] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
9 " , Lynn W M 19 [1861] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
10 FRENCH, Abner W M 83 [1797] Father Widowed NY NY NY
11 KEEFE, Maggie W F 19 [1861] Servant Single Servant TN Ire Ire.1
John French was listed as a resident in Egbert E. French and Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean's household in the census report on 7 June 1880 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; p. 329-C, lines 1-11, dwelling 166, family 171
1 FRENCH, E. E. W M 39 [1841] Married Grocer NY NY VT
2 " , Elizabeth W F 34 [1846] Wife Maried Keeping House PA NY NY
3 " , Florence W F 10 [1870] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
4 " , Georgie W F 7 [1873] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
5 " , John W M 5 [1875] Son Single NE NY PA
6 " , Edwin W M 3 [1877] Son Single NE NY PA
7 " , Lacy W M 1 [1879] Son Single NE NY PA
8 MCLEAN, Clark W M 21 [1859] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
9 " , Lynn W M 19 [1861] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
10 FRENCH, Abner W M 83 [1797] Father Widowed NY NY NY
11 KEEFE, Maggie W F 19 [1861] Servant Single Servant TN Ire Ire.1
Citations
- [S5074] 1880 Federal Census, 1880 Census NE Douglas Co Omaha, Year: 1880; Census Place: Omaha, Douglas, Nebraska; Roll: 748; Page: 329C; Enumeration District: 024
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=6742&h=33119080
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6742/images/4242190-00241
Edwin French1
M, #96101, b. circa 1877
Father | Egbert E. French1 b. Sep 1841, d. 10 Jun 1925 |
Mother | Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean1 b. 27 Oct 1846, d. 1 Jan 1916 |
Charts | Chart of Descendants of Alexander Armstrong, Sr Chart of Descendants of John S. McLean |
Last Edited | 2 Apr 2021 |
Edwin French was born circa 1877 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; Aged 3 in 1880 census.1
Edwin French was listed as a resident in Egbert E. French and Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean's household in the census report on 7 June 1880 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; p. 329-C, lines 1-11, dwelling 166, family 171
1 FRENCH, E. E. W M 39 [1841] Married Grocer NY NY VT
2 " , Elizabeth W F 34 [1846] Wife Maried Keeping House PA NY NY
3 " , Florence W F 10 [1870] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
4 " , Georgie W F 7 [1873] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
5 " , John W M 5 [1875] Son Single NE NY PA
6 " , Edwin W M 3 [1877] Son Single NE NY PA
7 " , Lacy W M 1 [1879] Son Single NE NY PA
8 MCLEAN, Clark W M 21 [1859] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
9 " , Lynn W M 19 [1861] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
10 FRENCH, Abner W M 83 [1797] Father Widowed NY NY NY
11 KEEFE, Maggie W F 19 [1861] Servant Single Servant TN Ire Ire.1
Edwin French was listed as a resident in Egbert E. French and Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean's household in the census report on 7 June 1880 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; p. 329-C, lines 1-11, dwelling 166, family 171
1 FRENCH, E. E. W M 39 [1841] Married Grocer NY NY VT
2 " , Elizabeth W F 34 [1846] Wife Maried Keeping House PA NY NY
3 " , Florence W F 10 [1870] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
4 " , Georgie W F 7 [1873] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
5 " , John W M 5 [1875] Son Single NE NY PA
6 " , Edwin W M 3 [1877] Son Single NE NY PA
7 " , Lacy W M 1 [1879] Son Single NE NY PA
8 MCLEAN, Clark W M 21 [1859] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
9 " , Lynn W M 19 [1861] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
10 FRENCH, Abner W M 83 [1797] Father Widowed NY NY NY
11 KEEFE, Maggie W F 19 [1861] Servant Single Servant TN Ire Ire.1
Citations
- [S5074] 1880 Federal Census, 1880 Census NE Douglas Co Omaha, Year: 1880; Census Place: Omaha, Douglas, Nebraska; Roll: 748; Page: 329C; Enumeration District: 024
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=6742&h=33119080
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6742/images/4242190-00241
Lacy French1
M, #96102, b. circa 1879
Father | Egbert E. French1 b. Sep 1841, d. 10 Jun 1925 |
Mother | Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean1 b. 27 Oct 1846, d. 1 Jan 1916 |
Charts | Chart of Descendants of Alexander Armstrong, Sr Chart of Descendants of John S. McLean |
Last Edited | 2 Apr 2021 |
Lacy French was born circa 1879 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; Aged 1 in 1880 census.1
Lacy French was listed as a resident in Egbert E. French and Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean's household in the census report on 7 June 1880 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; p. 329-C, lines 1-11, dwelling 166, family 171
1 FRENCH, E. E. W M 39 [1841] Married Grocer NY NY VT
2 " , Elizabeth W F 34 [1846] Wife Maried Keeping House PA NY NY
3 " , Florence W F 10 [1870] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
4 " , Georgie W F 7 [1873] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
5 " , John W M 5 [1875] Son Single NE NY PA
6 " , Edwin W M 3 [1877] Son Single NE NY PA
7 " , Lacy W M 1 [1879] Son Single NE NY PA
8 MCLEAN, Clark W M 21 [1859] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
9 " , Lynn W M 19 [1861] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
10 FRENCH, Abner W M 83 [1797] Father Widowed NY NY NY
11 KEEFE, Maggie W F 19 [1861] Servant Single Servant TN Ire Ire.1
Lacy French was listed as a resident in Egbert E. French and Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean's household in the census report on 7 June 1880 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; p. 329-C, lines 1-11, dwelling 166, family 171
1 FRENCH, E. E. W M 39 [1841] Married Grocer NY NY VT
2 " , Elizabeth W F 34 [1846] Wife Maried Keeping House PA NY NY
3 " , Florence W F 10 [1870] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
4 " , Georgie W F 7 [1873] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
5 " , John W M 5 [1875] Son Single NE NY PA
6 " , Edwin W M 3 [1877] Son Single NE NY PA
7 " , Lacy W M 1 [1879] Son Single NE NY PA
8 MCLEAN, Clark W M 21 [1859] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
9 " , Lynn W M 19 [1861] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
10 FRENCH, Abner W M 83 [1797] Father Widowed NY NY NY
11 KEEFE, Maggie W F 19 [1861] Servant Single Servant TN Ire Ire.1
Citations
- [S5074] 1880 Federal Census, 1880 Census NE Douglas Co Omaha, Year: 1880; Census Place: Omaha, Douglas, Nebraska; Roll: 748; Page: 329C; Enumeration District: 024
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=6742&h=33119080
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6742/images/4242190-00241
Abner French1
M, #96103, b. circa 1797
Last Edited | 2 Apr 2021 |
Abner French was born circa 1797 at New York, USA; Aged 83 in 1880 census.1
Abner French was listed as a resident in Egbert E. French and Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean's household in the census report on 7 June 1880 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; p. 329-C, lines 1-11, dwelling 166, family 171
1 FRENCH, E. E. W M 39 [1841] Married Grocer NY NY VT
2 " , Elizabeth W F 34 [1846] Wife Maried Keeping House PA NY NY
3 " , Florence W F 10 [1870] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
4 " , Georgie W F 7 [1873] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
5 " , John W M 5 [1875] Son Single NE NY PA
6 " , Edwin W M 3 [1877] Son Single NE NY PA
7 " , Lacy W M 1 [1879] Son Single NE NY PA
8 MCLEAN, Clark W M 21 [1859] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
9 " , Lynn W M 19 [1861] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
10 FRENCH, Abner W M 83 [1797] Father Widowed NY NY NY
11 KEEFE, Maggie W F 19 [1861] Servant Single Servant TN Ire Ire.1
Abner French was listed as a resident in Egbert E. French and Elizabeth "Lizzie" M. McLean's household in the census report on 7 June 1880 at Omaha, Douglas Co., Nebraska, USA; p. 329-C, lines 1-11, dwelling 166, family 171
1 FRENCH, E. E. W M 39 [1841] Married Grocer NY NY VT
2 " , Elizabeth W F 34 [1846] Wife Maried Keeping House PA NY NY
3 " , Florence W F 10 [1870] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
4 " , Georgie W F 7 [1873] Daughter Single Attended School NE NY PA
5 " , John W M 5 [1875] Son Single NE NY PA
6 " , Edwin W M 3 [1877] Son Single NE NY PA
7 " , Lacy W M 1 [1879] Son Single NE NY PA
8 MCLEAN, Clark W M 21 [1859] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
9 " , Lynn W M 19 [1861] Brother-in-Law Single Printer PA NY PA
10 FRENCH, Abner W M 83 [1797] Father Widowed NY NY NY
11 KEEFE, Maggie W F 19 [1861] Servant Single Servant TN Ire Ire.1
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Citations
- [S5074] 1880 Federal Census, 1880 Census NE Douglas Co Omaha, Year: 1880; Census Place: Omaha, Douglas, Nebraska; Roll: 748; Page: 329C; Enumeration District: 024
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=6742&h=33119080
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6742/images/4242190-00241
Pamelia (?)1,2
F, #96104, b. 17 June 1794, d. 24 January 1885
Last Edited | 2 May 2021 |
Pamelia (?) married Abel Lyon.1
Pamelia (?) was born on 17 June 1794 at Saratoga Co., New York, USA; Aged 66 in teh 1860 census.1,2
Pamelia (?) died on 24 January 1885 at age 90.2
Pamelia (?) was buried after 24 January 1885 at Fair Mount Cemetery, Red Creek, Wayne Co., New York, USA; From Find A Grave:
; The fate of William2 F. McLEAN’s sixth child, James3 McClean (William2, John1) is uncertain. The source of his birth and death dates are from the family Bible of Sarah2 (ARMSTRONG) McLEAN, his grandmother.ii McLean [nd] No middle initial is given in that record. The date of birth is written clearly, and reads October 18th 1816. However, the date of death has been crossed out and changed. The crossed-out portion may read “September the 13th”. The added date is “October 8, 1852.” This segment of the Bible page is shown below.
Figure 269: Clipping from Family Bible of Sarah2 (ARMSTRONG) McLEAN Showing the Entry for James3 McClean (William2, John1)iiii McLean [nd]
[Image of original bible entry is attached.]
Identifying what happened to James3 McClean (William2, John1) may lie in solving the following puzzle involving the records of three men named James McLean who may or may not have been the same man. Here is the evidence discovered so far.
A. Who was the real James McLean?
There are two other James McLeans11 For clarity in the following dicussion, “James3 McClean (William2, John1)” refers to the son of William F. McLEAN (John1); “James McLean #1” refers to the James F. Mclean buried in Wayne County, New York; while “James McLean #2” refers to the James F. Mclean buried in White County, Indiana. for whom records have been found, either of whom might have been James3 McClean (William2, John1), though neither is a certain match. What adds to the confusion is that though the vital dates for these two other James’s are not exactly the same, there is some evidence that all three men may have been the same person.
James McLean #1:
There is a James F. McLean buried in Wayne County, New York.ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309. His grave marker read “Died Sept. 13, 1852 Aged 35 yrs. 10 ms & 21 ds.”iiii An image of the grave marker is posted on FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309. The date of death is identical to one possible interpretation of the date of birth of James3 McClean (William2, John1) in the family Bible. The date of birth calculated from the grave marker inscription is 23 October 1816, only seven days different from that given in the McLean family Bible.
Further research on this man has found a probate record in Wayne County, dated 19 January 1853, for a James F. McLean who had died intestate and who had a wife named Lydia A. who was named heir.ii[:ITAL]iiii Ancestry.com NYWills: Record seen on 3 April 2021 at https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8800&h=2841751;
There is also an 1850 census Wayne County listing for a James F. McLean with a wife listed as Lydia A. There are two children listed in in this household: a daughter, Betsy, aged 11 (i.e., born ca 1839) and a three month old son, William C. (i.e., born ca April 1850). It is possible that the James who died and was buried in 1852 was the James who died intestate with a wife named Lydia A., and also the same James F. listed in the 1850 census. No further record of the daughter, Betsy McLean, has been found.
Figure 270: Census Detail for the James F. McLean Household from the 1850 U. S. Census, Wolcott Twp., Wayne County, New York ii 1850Wolcott: p. 525-A, lines 6-12.
Line Name Age YOB11 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB22 Place of birth
8 McLEAN, James F. 32 1818 M Carpenter $800 New York
9 “ , Lydia A. 31 1819 F New York
10 “ , William C. 3/12 1850 M New York
11 “ , Betsy 11 1839 F At School New York
12 SWARTOUT, Asa P. 34 1816 M Tailor New York
Date of Census: 26 July 1850
The presence of thirty-four year old Asa Swartout (Swarthout) in the same household with James is a clue that this James F. McLean #1 could well have been James3 McClean (William2, John1). James3 grew up in Benton Twp. In the 1840 US census there were four SWARTHOUT households (carious spellings) listed for Benton Twp. and another eight households in nearby towns of Yates County. Research shows that Asa P. Swarthout was probably the son of John L./S. Swarthout who was living in Benton Twp. at the time of the 1840 census.iiii 1840Benton: p. 267, line 7. Furthermore, in this census this John L./S. Swarthout was listed as living next door to (next line) William2 F. McLEAN (John1). Asa probably grew up with James3 McClean (William2, John1) in Yates County and may even have moved to Wayne County together.
Further research found a Lydia McLean with a ten year old son, William McLean, living in the household of an Abel and Pamelia Lyon in 1860. These are evidently Lydia’s parents (as subsequently shown by the 1880 census listing). There is no record of her daughter, Betsy, in this census and Betsy, being about 21 in 1860, may have married by then or died.
Figure 271: Census Detail for the Abel Lyon Household from the 1860 U. S. Census, Red Creek Village, Wayne County, New York iiiiii 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
Line Name Age YOB33 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB44 Place of birth
12 LYON, Abel 66 1794 M No Occupation New York
13 “ , Amelia [sic] 66 1794 F New York
14 McLEAN, Lydia 42 1818 F New York
15 “ , William 10 1850 M At School New York
Date of Census: 23 October 1860
In the 1870 census Lydia McLean is still with her parents, but now William and Betsy are both missing.
Figure 272: Census Detail for the Abel Lyon Household from the 1870 U. S. Census, Town of Rose, Wayne County, New York ii 1870Rose: p. 408-B, lines 14-15.
Line Name Age YOB11 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB22 Place of birth
14 LYON, Abel 76 1794 M Retired Merchant New York
15 “ , Pamelia 75 1795 F Keeping House New York
16 McLEAN, Lydia 45 1825 F Tailoress New York
Date of Census: 13 June 1870
In the 1880 census, the widow Lydia McLean is living with a widowed Pamelia Lyon and is listed as Pamelia’s daughter. This indicates that the wife of James F. McLean who had died and was listed with him in the 1850 census, and then mentioned as his widow and heir in his 1853 probate record was Lydia A. (Lyon) McLean. No further record of the son William C. McLean has been found.
Figure 273: Census Detail for the Amelia [sic] Lyon Household from the 1880 U. S. Census, Town of Rose, Wayne County, New York iiii1880Rose: p. 392-B, lines 23-24.
Line Name Race Sex Age YOB33 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Status Occupation POB44 Place of birth
23 LYON, Amelia W F 86 1794 Widowed Retired Merchant New York
16 McLEAN, Lydia W F 62 1818 Widowed Tailoress New York
Date of Census: 25 June 1880
Neither a burial record nor any other records have been found for Lydia (Lyon) McLean in New York.
In summary, This seems to be one family of a James F. and a Lydia A. (Lyon) McClean, with two children: Betsy (who may have died or married before 1860) and William C., who may have died or moved away before 1870. The birth and death dates of this James F. are close to those given in the family Bible for James3 McClean (William2, John1).
James McLean #2:
There are graves in Indiana for a couple, James McLean and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean with a son, William Edwin McLean, recorded in the Old Monticello Cemetery in Monticello, White County, Indiana.ii[:ITAL]iiii FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William). There are grave markers for Lydia Ann and William Edwin, but none for James. The information given on FindAGrave.com is as follows:
Figure 274: Information on the James and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean and William Edwin McLean Buried in Old Monticello Cemetery, White County, Indiana i[:BOLD]viv FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
Name
Birth
Death
James McLean
1818, New York
6 May 1891, Monticello, White County, Indiana
Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean
25 December 1817
17 October 1896
William Edwin McLean
23 April 1850, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York
9 September 1927, Cook County, Illinois
This couple has not been found in any census records in Indiana in 1850, 1860, 1870 or 1880, nor has any other record been found of them in Indiana.
No grave marker was found for James McLean, though the burial was recorded.
The grave marker for Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean reads “Died Oct. 17, 1896 Aged 78y. 9m. 22d.” The birth date calculated from this inscription matches the birth date on the memorial page.
A Cook County, Illinois death recordii FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm. for William Edwin McLean confirms his birth date (23 April 1850) and birth place in “Red Creek, New York.” The years (only) of birth and death are inscribed on his grave marker.i[ITAL:]iii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180726.
In summary, this family was apparently from New York (where their son William Edwin was born in Wayne County) and at some point they apparently moved to Indiana. Nothing else is known about them.
William2 F. McLEAN (John S.1) and three of his other children, all migrated to Indiana sometime after 27 July 1850 (when he appeared in the 1850 U. S. census in Milo Twp.), and before his death on 28 January 1855 in Fountain County. With his father and siblings in Indiana, it is possible that James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) also decided to move his family to Indiana; perhaps around the same time (1850-1855), or later. Fountain County is not that far from White County where James McLean #2 was eventually buried.
Comparing the few facts known for James3 McClean (William2, John S.1), James F. McLean (#1) and James McLean (#2) does not necessarily preclude that all three are the same man. However, there are two burials, and taken on face value the existence of two different burials would seem to preclude that James F. McLean (#1) who died in New York in 1852 is the same man as James McLean (#2) who died in 1891 and was buried in Indiana.
Figure 275: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for James3 McClean (William2, John1), James F. McLean (#1) and James McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
James3 McClean (William2, John1) – from Family Bibleiiiiii McLean [nd]
18th October 1816
13 September 1852 or 8th October 1852
James F. McLean – from grave marker inscriptioni[:ITAL]viv FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
23 October 1816255]
13 September 1852, New York
James McLean – from Find A grave memorialvv FindAGrave.com Memorial #141474776.
1818, New York
6 May 1891, Monticello, White County, Indiana
B. Who was the real Lydia (Lyon) McLean?
Not only do we have three James McLeans, it seems we also have two Lydia (Lyon) McLeans, who each married a James McLean:
Figure 276: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for Lydia A. (Lyon) McLean (#1) and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
Lydia A. (Lyon) McClean (#1) – from probate, 1850 & 1860 censusesii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ca 1818/19 (from ages in 1850 and 1860 census)
unknown
Lydia Ann (Lyon) McClean (#2) – from grave markeri[:ITAL]iii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180623.
25 December 1817255]
17 October 1896255]
It is feasible that these two women are the same person. Their dates of birth aren’t that far off, allowing for the errors in ages listed that were common in census enumerations.
C. Who was the real William McLean?
Finally, we have the two sons named William to consider:
The William C. McLean11 His name appears with a middle initial (“C.”) only in the 1850 census, not in the 1860 census. who was in his father’s household in the 1850 census and with his mother and maternal grandparents in the 1860 census, and was probably born in Wayne County, New York.
The William Edwin McLean who was buried in Indiana and was born in Red Crook, Wayne County.
The names William and Edwin were common in the McClean family of Benton. James3 McClean (William2, John1) had a father named William, as well as a brother. He also had an uncle and a cousin named George Edwin, a first cousin named Edwin, and a first cousin named William Edwin. It would not have been unusual for him to choose to name a son, William Edwin.
No record – other than their burials – has been found for James (#2) and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean and their son William Edwin McLean living in White County. Indiana. William married Sue Ellen Obenchain (various spellings) in Chicago in 1890, and he died there in 1927. However, the 1880 censusiiiiii 1880Monticello: p. 286-A, lines 15-22. shows “Susie Obenchinn” living in her parents household in Monticello, White County. This opens the possibility that she and William met in Indiana first before they married in Chicago. William and his wife “Lulu E.” were living in Chicago in the 1900 censusiviv 1900Chicago34: p. 11, lines 10-14. with a son, William M. who was born in Feb 1893 in Indiana. Thus, though William Edwin and Sue Ellen were married in Chicago, it seems that they had returned to Indiana for some period (at least ca Feb 1893 in time for the birth of their child) before moving back to Chicago in time for the 1900 census.
William Edwin’s father, James McLean (#2), died in 1891 and his mother, Lydia Ann (Lyon), in 1896. William Edwin’s son was born in Indiana in 1893. Thus, one can speculate that following their June 1890 Chicago marriage, William Edwin and Sue Ellen had moved to White County to be near both their parents, and then moved back to Chicago after the deaths of James and Lydia. Sue Ellen’s own parents, Madison Lewis and Morgianna (Armour) Obenchain, still lived on in Monticello, White County, with her father dying there in 1912.vv FindAGrave.com Memorial #41515503.
The next years are confusing and the record is sparse. William Edwin McLean has not been found in the 1910 census, while his wife, Sue Ellen McLean, and their son, William, appeared in 1910 as boarders in the household of an apparently unrelated John Johnson in Biloxi, Harrison County, Mississippi.vivi 1910Biloxi: p. 1-B, lines 68-72. There is no obvious reason for their presence in Mississippi, or for the absence of William Edwin. In the 1920 census,viivii 1920Chicago: p. 4-A, lines 40-43. William Edwin, Sue Ellen and their son William M. are all back living together in Chicago (with Sue Ellen’s mother living with them).
Figure 277: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for William C. McLean (#1) and William Edwin McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
William C. McClean – from 1850 & 1860 censusesviiiviii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ca April 1850
unknown
William Edwin McClean – from death recordi[:ITAL]xix FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.
23 April 1850, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York
9 September 1927, Cook County, Illinois
D. Conclusions
The James F. McLean buried in Wayne County certainly seems to match James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) in terms of his dates of birth and death.
It is logical that with his father and siblings in Indiana, James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) would have at some point chosen to move there with his family, as well, and thus could have eventually died there.
The 1850 census and 1853 probate records tell us that those two men were the same, then James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) married a woman named Lydia A. Lyon and had children by her, one of who was named William.
The presence of Asa P. Swartout in the 1850 census, increases the likelihood that the James F. McLean in that census came from Benton Twp.
The Lydia in New York comes close in birth dates to matching the Lydia buried in Indiana.
The son of James F. and Lydia A. McLean, William C., in the 1850 census could well be the same man as the William Edwin born in Wayne County and buried in Indiana. The birthdates and birth places are the same.
Who was the James McLean #2 buried in Indiana, if James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) was the James F. McLean #1 and died in 1852?
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i McLean [nd]
ii McLean [nd]
i FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
ii An image of the grave marker is posted on FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
iii Ancestry.com NYWills: Record seen on 3 April 2021 at https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8800&h=2841751;
i 1850Wolcott: p. 525-A, lines 6-12.
ii 1840Benton: p. 267, line 7.
iii 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
i 1870Rose: p. 408-B, lines 14-15.
ii1880Rose: p. 392-B, lines 23-24.
iii FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
iv FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
i FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.
ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180726.
iii McLean [nd]
iv FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
v FindAGrave.com Memorial #141474776.
i 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180623.
iii 1880Monticello: p. 286-A, lines 15-22.
iv 1900Chicago34: p. 11, lines 10-14.
v FindAGrave.com Memorial #41515503.
vi 1910Biloxi: p. 1-B, lines 68-72.
vii 1920Chicago: p. 4-A, lines 40-43.
viii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ix FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.3,4,1,5,6,7,8,9
Pamelia (?) and Abel Lyon appeared in the census of 23 October 1860 at Red Creek Village, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 741, lines 12-15, dwelling 311, family 312
12 LYON, Abel 66 [1794] M No Occupation $1200 $700 NY
13 " , Amerlia 66 [1794] F NY
14 MCLEAN, Lydia 42 [1818] F NY
15 " , William 10 [1850] M NY Attended School.1
Pamelia (?) and Abel Lyon appeared in the census of 13 June 1870 at Rose, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 408-B, lines 14-16, dwelling 167, family 181
14 LYON, Abel 76 [1794] M W Retired Merchant $1700 $1500 NY
15 " , Pamelia 75 [1795] F W Keeping House NY
16 MCLANE, Lydia 45 [1825] F W Tailoress NY.10
Pamelia (?) appeared in the census of 25 June 1880 at Rose, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 382-B, lines 23-24, dwelling 502, family 187
23 LYON, Amelia W F 86 [1794] Widowed Without emloy NY NY NY
24 MCLEAN, Liddie 62 [1818] Daughter Widowed Keeping House NY NY NY.11
Pamelia (?) was born on 17 June 1794 at Saratoga Co., New York, USA; Aged 66 in teh 1860 census.1,2
Pamelia (?) died on 24 January 1885 at age 90.2
Pamelia (?) was buried after 24 January 1885 at Fair Mount Cemetery, Red Creek, Wayne Co., New York, USA; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 17 Jun 1794
DEATH 24 Jan 1885 (aged 90)
Family Members
Spouse
Abel Lyon 1794–1875
Children
Lyman Lyon 1819–1887
Gravesite Details Born in Saratoga Co, New York
BURIAL Fair Mount Cemetery, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York, USA
Maintained by: Frank K.
Originally Created by: NewYork Lady
Added: 30 Aug 2007
Find a Grave Memorial 21259066.2
DEATH 24 Jan 1885 (aged 90)
Family Members
Spouse
Abel Lyon 1794–1875
Children
Lyman Lyon 1819–1887
Gravesite Details Born in Saratoga Co, New York
BURIAL Fair Mount Cemetery, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York, USA
Maintained by: Frank K.
Originally Created by: NewYork Lady
Added: 30 Aug 2007
Find a Grave Memorial 21259066.2
; The fate of William2 F. McLEAN’s sixth child, James3 McClean (William2, John1) is uncertain. The source of his birth and death dates are from the family Bible of Sarah2 (ARMSTRONG) McLEAN, his grandmother.ii McLean [nd] No middle initial is given in that record. The date of birth is written clearly, and reads October 18th 1816. However, the date of death has been crossed out and changed. The crossed-out portion may read “September the 13th”. The added date is “October 8, 1852.” This segment of the Bible page is shown below.
Figure 269: Clipping from Family Bible of Sarah2 (ARMSTRONG) McLEAN Showing the Entry for James3 McClean (William2, John1)iiii McLean [nd]
[Image of original bible entry is attached.]
Identifying what happened to James3 McClean (William2, John1) may lie in solving the following puzzle involving the records of three men named James McLean who may or may not have been the same man. Here is the evidence discovered so far.
A. Who was the real James McLean?
There are two other James McLeans11 For clarity in the following dicussion, “James3 McClean (William2, John1)” refers to the son of William F. McLEAN (John1); “James McLean #1” refers to the James F. Mclean buried in Wayne County, New York; while “James McLean #2” refers to the James F. Mclean buried in White County, Indiana. for whom records have been found, either of whom might have been James3 McClean (William2, John1), though neither is a certain match. What adds to the confusion is that though the vital dates for these two other James’s are not exactly the same, there is some evidence that all three men may have been the same person.
James McLean #1:
There is a James F. McLean buried in Wayne County, New York.ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309. His grave marker read “Died Sept. 13, 1852 Aged 35 yrs. 10 ms & 21 ds.”iiii An image of the grave marker is posted on FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309. The date of death is identical to one possible interpretation of the date of birth of James3 McClean (William2, John1) in the family Bible. The date of birth calculated from the grave marker inscription is 23 October 1816, only seven days different from that given in the McLean family Bible.
Further research on this man has found a probate record in Wayne County, dated 19 January 1853, for a James F. McLean who had died intestate and who had a wife named Lydia A. who was named heir.ii[:ITAL]iiii Ancestry.com NYWills: Record seen on 3 April 2021 at https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8800&h=2841751;
There is also an 1850 census Wayne County listing for a James F. McLean with a wife listed as Lydia A. There are two children listed in in this household: a daughter, Betsy, aged 11 (i.e., born ca 1839) and a three month old son, William C. (i.e., born ca April 1850). It is possible that the James who died and was buried in 1852 was the James who died intestate with a wife named Lydia A., and also the same James F. listed in the 1850 census. No further record of the daughter, Betsy McLean, has been found.
Figure 270: Census Detail for the James F. McLean Household from the 1850 U. S. Census, Wolcott Twp., Wayne County, New York ii 1850Wolcott: p. 525-A, lines 6-12.
Line Name Age YOB11 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB22 Place of birth
8 McLEAN, James F. 32 1818 M Carpenter $800 New York
9 “ , Lydia A. 31 1819 F New York
10 “ , William C. 3/12 1850 M New York
11 “ , Betsy 11 1839 F At School New York
12 SWARTOUT, Asa P. 34 1816 M Tailor New York
Date of Census: 26 July 1850
The presence of thirty-four year old Asa Swartout (Swarthout) in the same household with James is a clue that this James F. McLean #1 could well have been James3 McClean (William2, John1). James3 grew up in Benton Twp. In the 1840 US census there were four SWARTHOUT households (carious spellings) listed for Benton Twp. and another eight households in nearby towns of Yates County. Research shows that Asa P. Swarthout was probably the son of John L./S. Swarthout who was living in Benton Twp. at the time of the 1840 census.iiii 1840Benton: p. 267, line 7. Furthermore, in this census this John L./S. Swarthout was listed as living next door to (next line) William2 F. McLEAN (John1). Asa probably grew up with James3 McClean (William2, John1) in Yates County and may even have moved to Wayne County together.
Further research found a Lydia McLean with a ten year old son, William McLean, living in the household of an Abel and Pamelia Lyon in 1860. These are evidently Lydia’s parents (as subsequently shown by the 1880 census listing). There is no record of her daughter, Betsy, in this census and Betsy, being about 21 in 1860, may have married by then or died.
Figure 271: Census Detail for the Abel Lyon Household from the 1860 U. S. Census, Red Creek Village, Wayne County, New York iiiiii 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
Line Name Age YOB33 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB44 Place of birth
12 LYON, Abel 66 1794 M No Occupation New York
13 “ , Amelia [sic] 66 1794 F New York
14 McLEAN, Lydia 42 1818 F New York
15 “ , William 10 1850 M At School New York
Date of Census: 23 October 1860
In the 1870 census Lydia McLean is still with her parents, but now William and Betsy are both missing.
Figure 272: Census Detail for the Abel Lyon Household from the 1870 U. S. Census, Town of Rose, Wayne County, New York ii 1870Rose: p. 408-B, lines 14-15.
Line Name Age YOB11 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB22 Place of birth
14 LYON, Abel 76 1794 M Retired Merchant New York
15 “ , Pamelia 75 1795 F Keeping House New York
16 McLEAN, Lydia 45 1825 F Tailoress New York
Date of Census: 13 June 1870
In the 1880 census, the widow Lydia McLean is living with a widowed Pamelia Lyon and is listed as Pamelia’s daughter. This indicates that the wife of James F. McLean who had died and was listed with him in the 1850 census, and then mentioned as his widow and heir in his 1853 probate record was Lydia A. (Lyon) McLean. No further record of the son William C. McLean has been found.
Figure 273: Census Detail for the Amelia [sic] Lyon Household from the 1880 U. S. Census, Town of Rose, Wayne County, New York iiii1880Rose: p. 392-B, lines 23-24.
Line Name Race Sex Age YOB33 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Status Occupation POB44 Place of birth
23 LYON, Amelia W F 86 1794 Widowed Retired Merchant New York
16 McLEAN, Lydia W F 62 1818 Widowed Tailoress New York
Date of Census: 25 June 1880
Neither a burial record nor any other records have been found for Lydia (Lyon) McLean in New York.
In summary, This seems to be one family of a James F. and a Lydia A. (Lyon) McClean, with two children: Betsy (who may have died or married before 1860) and William C., who may have died or moved away before 1870. The birth and death dates of this James F. are close to those given in the family Bible for James3 McClean (William2, John1).
James McLean #2:
There are graves in Indiana for a couple, James McLean and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean with a son, William Edwin McLean, recorded in the Old Monticello Cemetery in Monticello, White County, Indiana.ii[:ITAL]iiii FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William). There are grave markers for Lydia Ann and William Edwin, but none for James. The information given on FindAGrave.com is as follows:
Figure 274: Information on the James and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean and William Edwin McLean Buried in Old Monticello Cemetery, White County, Indiana i[:BOLD]viv FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
Name
Birth
Death
James McLean
1818, New York
6 May 1891, Monticello, White County, Indiana
Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean
25 December 1817
17 October 1896
William Edwin McLean
23 April 1850, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York
9 September 1927, Cook County, Illinois
This couple has not been found in any census records in Indiana in 1850, 1860, 1870 or 1880, nor has any other record been found of them in Indiana.
No grave marker was found for James McLean, though the burial was recorded.
The grave marker for Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean reads “Died Oct. 17, 1896 Aged 78y. 9m. 22d.” The birth date calculated from this inscription matches the birth date on the memorial page.
A Cook County, Illinois death recordii FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm. for William Edwin McLean confirms his birth date (23 April 1850) and birth place in “Red Creek, New York.” The years (only) of birth and death are inscribed on his grave marker.i[ITAL:]iii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180726.
In summary, this family was apparently from New York (where their son William Edwin was born in Wayne County) and at some point they apparently moved to Indiana. Nothing else is known about them.
William2 F. McLEAN (John S.1) and three of his other children, all migrated to Indiana sometime after 27 July 1850 (when he appeared in the 1850 U. S. census in Milo Twp.), and before his death on 28 January 1855 in Fountain County. With his father and siblings in Indiana, it is possible that James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) also decided to move his family to Indiana; perhaps around the same time (1850-1855), or later. Fountain County is not that far from White County where James McLean #2 was eventually buried.
Comparing the few facts known for James3 McClean (William2, John S.1), James F. McLean (#1) and James McLean (#2) does not necessarily preclude that all three are the same man. However, there are two burials, and taken on face value the existence of two different burials would seem to preclude that James F. McLean (#1) who died in New York in 1852 is the same man as James McLean (#2) who died in 1891 and was buried in Indiana.
Figure 275: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for James3 McClean (William2, John1), James F. McLean (#1) and James McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
James3 McClean (William2, John1) – from Family Bibleiiiiii McLean [nd]
18th October 1816
13 September 1852 or 8th October 1852
James F. McLean – from grave marker inscriptioni[:ITAL]viv FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
23 October 1816255]
13 September 1852, New York
James McLean – from Find A grave memorialvv FindAGrave.com Memorial #141474776.
1818, New York
6 May 1891, Monticello, White County, Indiana
B. Who was the real Lydia (Lyon) McLean?
Not only do we have three James McLeans, it seems we also have two Lydia (Lyon) McLeans, who each married a James McLean:
Figure 276: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for Lydia A. (Lyon) McLean (#1) and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
Lydia A. (Lyon) McClean (#1) – from probate, 1850 & 1860 censusesii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ca 1818/19 (from ages in 1850 and 1860 census)
unknown
Lydia Ann (Lyon) McClean (#2) – from grave markeri[:ITAL]iii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180623.
25 December 1817255]
17 October 1896255]
It is feasible that these two women are the same person. Their dates of birth aren’t that far off, allowing for the errors in ages listed that were common in census enumerations.
C. Who was the real William McLean?
Finally, we have the two sons named William to consider:
The William C. McLean11 His name appears with a middle initial (“C.”) only in the 1850 census, not in the 1860 census. who was in his father’s household in the 1850 census and with his mother and maternal grandparents in the 1860 census, and was probably born in Wayne County, New York.
The William Edwin McLean who was buried in Indiana and was born in Red Crook, Wayne County.
The names William and Edwin were common in the McClean family of Benton. James3 McClean (William2, John1) had a father named William, as well as a brother. He also had an uncle and a cousin named George Edwin, a first cousin named Edwin, and a first cousin named William Edwin. It would not have been unusual for him to choose to name a son, William Edwin.
No record – other than their burials – has been found for James (#2) and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean and their son William Edwin McLean living in White County. Indiana. William married Sue Ellen Obenchain (various spellings) in Chicago in 1890, and he died there in 1927. However, the 1880 censusiiiiii 1880Monticello: p. 286-A, lines 15-22. shows “Susie Obenchinn” living in her parents household in Monticello, White County. This opens the possibility that she and William met in Indiana first before they married in Chicago. William and his wife “Lulu E.” were living in Chicago in the 1900 censusiviv 1900Chicago34: p. 11, lines 10-14. with a son, William M. who was born in Feb 1893 in Indiana. Thus, though William Edwin and Sue Ellen were married in Chicago, it seems that they had returned to Indiana for some period (at least ca Feb 1893 in time for the birth of their child) before moving back to Chicago in time for the 1900 census.
William Edwin’s father, James McLean (#2), died in 1891 and his mother, Lydia Ann (Lyon), in 1896. William Edwin’s son was born in Indiana in 1893. Thus, one can speculate that following their June 1890 Chicago marriage, William Edwin and Sue Ellen had moved to White County to be near both their parents, and then moved back to Chicago after the deaths of James and Lydia. Sue Ellen’s own parents, Madison Lewis and Morgianna (Armour) Obenchain, still lived on in Monticello, White County, with her father dying there in 1912.vv FindAGrave.com Memorial #41515503.
The next years are confusing and the record is sparse. William Edwin McLean has not been found in the 1910 census, while his wife, Sue Ellen McLean, and their son, William, appeared in 1910 as boarders in the household of an apparently unrelated John Johnson in Biloxi, Harrison County, Mississippi.vivi 1910Biloxi: p. 1-B, lines 68-72. There is no obvious reason for their presence in Mississippi, or for the absence of William Edwin. In the 1920 census,viivii 1920Chicago: p. 4-A, lines 40-43. William Edwin, Sue Ellen and their son William M. are all back living together in Chicago (with Sue Ellen’s mother living with them).
Figure 277: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for William C. McLean (#1) and William Edwin McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
William C. McClean – from 1850 & 1860 censusesviiiviii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ca April 1850
unknown
William Edwin McClean – from death recordi[:ITAL]xix FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.
23 April 1850, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York
9 September 1927, Cook County, Illinois
D. Conclusions
The James F. McLean buried in Wayne County certainly seems to match James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) in terms of his dates of birth and death.
It is logical that with his father and siblings in Indiana, James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) would have at some point chosen to move there with his family, as well, and thus could have eventually died there.
The 1850 census and 1853 probate records tell us that those two men were the same, then James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) married a woman named Lydia A. Lyon and had children by her, one of who was named William.
The presence of Asa P. Swartout in the 1850 census, increases the likelihood that the James F. McLean in that census came from Benton Twp.
The Lydia in New York comes close in birth dates to matching the Lydia buried in Indiana.
The son of James F. and Lydia A. McLean, William C., in the 1850 census could well be the same man as the William Edwin born in Wayne County and buried in Indiana. The birthdates and birth places are the same.
Who was the James McLean #2 buried in Indiana, if James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) was the James F. McLean #1 and died in 1852?
________________________
i McLean [nd]
ii McLean [nd]
i FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
ii An image of the grave marker is posted on FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
iii Ancestry.com NYWills: Record seen on 3 April 2021 at https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8800&h=2841751;
i 1850Wolcott: p. 525-A, lines 6-12.
ii 1840Benton: p. 267, line 7.
iii 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
i 1870Rose: p. 408-B, lines 14-15.
ii1880Rose: p. 392-B, lines 23-24.
iii FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
iv FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
i FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.
ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180726.
iii McLean [nd]
iv FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
v FindAGrave.com Memorial #141474776.
i 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180623.
iii 1880Monticello: p. 286-A, lines 15-22.
iv 1900Chicago34: p. 11, lines 10-14.
v FindAGrave.com Memorial #41515503.
vi 1910Biloxi: p. 1-B, lines 68-72.
vii 1920Chicago: p. 4-A, lines 40-43.
viii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ix FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.3,4,1,5,6,7,8,9
Pamelia (?) and Abel Lyon appeared in the census of 23 October 1860 at Red Creek Village, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 741, lines 12-15, dwelling 311, family 312
12 LYON, Abel 66 [1794] M No Occupation $1200 $700 NY
13 " , Amerlia 66 [1794] F NY
14 MCLEAN, Lydia 42 [1818] F NY
15 " , William 10 [1850] M NY Attended School.1
Pamelia (?) and Abel Lyon appeared in the census of 13 June 1870 at Rose, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 408-B, lines 14-16, dwelling 167, family 181
14 LYON, Abel 76 [1794] M W Retired Merchant $1700 $1500 NY
15 " , Pamelia 75 [1795] F W Keeping House NY
16 MCLANE, Lydia 45 [1825] F W Tailoress NY.10
Pamelia (?) appeared in the census of 25 June 1880 at Rose, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 382-B, lines 23-24, dwelling 502, family 187
23 LYON, Amelia W F 86 [1794] Widowed Without emloy NY NY NY
24 MCLEAN, Liddie 62 [1818] Daughter Widowed Keeping House NY NY NY.11
Family | Abel Lyon b. 16 Apr 1794, d. 1 Mar 1875 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S5076] 1860 Federal Census, 1860 Census NY Wayne Co Red Creek, Year: 1860; Census Place: Red Creek, Wayne, New York; Page: 741; Family History Library Film: 803877
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7667&h=49010758
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7667/images/4237104_00093 - [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 03 April 2021), memorial page for Pamelia Lyon (17 Jun 1794–24 Jan 1885), Find a Grave Memorial no. 21259066, citing Fair Mount Cemetery, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York, USA; Maintained by Frank K. (contributor 46941322), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/21259066. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 26 March 2021), memorial page for James F McLean (1816–13 Sep 1852), Find a Grave Memorial no. 21259309, citing Fair Mount Cemetery, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York, USA; Maintained by Frank K. (contributor 46941322), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/21259309
- [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 4 April 2021; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
- [S5045] 1850 Federal Census, 1850 Census NY Wayne Co Wolcott, Year: 1850; Census Place: Wolcott, Wayne, New York; Roll: 613; Page: 525a
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8054&h=8812162
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8054/images/4181067_00459 - [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 03 April 2021), memorial page for James McLean (1818–6 May 1891), Find a Grave Memorial no. 141474776, citing Old Monticello Cemetery, Monticello, White County, Indiana, USA; Maintained by Jack McIlrath (contributor 46933259), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/141474776
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 03 April 2021), memorial page for Lydia Ann Lyon McLean (25 Dec 1817–17 Oct 1896), Find a Grave Memorial no. 41180623, citing Old Monticello Cemetery, Monticello, White County, Indiana, USA; Maintained by Jack McIlrath (contributor 46933259), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/41180623
- [S5040] Wayne County NYGenWeb site, online <http://wayne.nygenweb.net/>, Fairmount Cemetery, Red Creek, Town of Wolcott, Wayne County, NY: https://wayne.nygenweb.net/cemeteries/fairmunt.html. Hereinafter cited as Wayne Co NY GenWeb.
- [S2338] Ancestry.Com Family Trees, online http://trees.ancestry.com/, Lyon.Manning.Burr FTM3_2017 - James McLean: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/109925263/person/430076615357/facts?_phsrc=EHY488&_phstart=successSource. Hereinafter cited as Ancestry.Com Family Trees.
- [S5077] 1870 Federal Census, 1870 Census NY Wayne Co Rose, Year: 1870; Census Place: Rose, Wayne, New York; Roll: M593_1113; Page: 408B; Family History Library Film: 552612
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7163&h=24274154
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7163/images/4277177_00129 - [S5078] 1880 Federal Census, 1880 Census NY Wayne Co Rose, Year: 1880; Census Place: Rose, Wayne, New York; Roll: 944; Page: 382B; Enumeration District: 187
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=6742&h=4310901
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6742/images/4243579-00468
George Hiram McLean1,2
M, #96105, b. circa 1865, d. 21 July 1883
Father | Lewis Hoyt McLean1 b. 15 Feb 1824, d. 4 Nov 1896 |
Mother | Mary Elizabeth Lamphier1 b. 1 Feb 1825, d. 30 Apr 1894 |
Charts | Chart of Descendants of Alexander Armstrong, Sr Chart of Descendants of John S. McLean |
Last Edited | 2 Apr 2021 |
George Hiram McLean was born circa 1865 at Union City, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; Aged 5 in 1870 census; 15 in 1880. He was born in 1865 per 1870 and 1880 censuses, but his Find A Grave memorial says he was born in 1863.1,3,2
George Hiram McLean died on 21 July 1883 at Union City, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA.2
George Hiram McLean was buried after 21 July 1883 at Evergreen Cemetery, Union City, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; From Find A Grave:
George Hiram McLean was listed as a resident in Lewis Hoyt McLean and Mary Elizabeth Lamphier's household in the census report on 11 June 1870 at Union City, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 429-A, lines 30-35, dwelling 278, family 279
30 MCLEAN, L. H. 47 [1823] M W Blacksmith $2000 $500 NY
31 " , Mary E. 45 [1825] F W Housekeeper NY
32 " , Francis 21 [1849] M W Printer PA
33 " , Charles 17 [1853] M W Works Bbl Factory PA
34 " , John C. 9 [1861] M W PA
35 " , George H. 5 [1865] M W PA.1
George Hiram McLean was listed as a resident in Lewis Hoyt McLean and Mary Elizabeth Lamphier's household in the census report on 11 June 1880 at Union City, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 237-A, lines 25-28, dwelling 302, famikly 311
25 MCLANE, Lewis H. W M 56 [1824] Mareried Labourer NY PA NY
26 " , Mary E. W F 55 [1825] Wife Married Keeping House NY CT NY
27 " , John C. W M 19 [1861] Son Single Printer PA NY NY
28 " , George H. W M 15 [1865] Son Single At School PA NY NY.3
George Hiram McLean died on 21 July 1883 at Union City, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA.2
George Hiram McLean was buried after 21 July 1883 at Evergreen Cemetery, Union City, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1863
DEATH 21 Jul 1883 (aged 19–20), Union City, Erie County, Pennsylvania, USA
Family Members
Parents
Lewis H McLean 1824–1896
Mary Elizabeth Lamphier McLean 1825–1894
Siblings
Frank E McLean 1849–1913
Charles A McLean 1853–1933
John C McLean 1861–1942
BURIAL Evergreen Cemetery, Union City, Erie County, Pennsylvania, USA
PLOT Section 1 Lot 38
Maintained by: Find a Grave
Originally Created by: Ted K
Added: 13 Jul 2013
Find a Grave Memorial 113758042.2
DEATH 21 Jul 1883 (aged 19–20), Union City, Erie County, Pennsylvania, USA
Family Members
Parents
Lewis H McLean 1824–1896
Mary Elizabeth Lamphier McLean 1825–1894
Siblings
Frank E McLean 1849–1913
Charles A McLean 1853–1933
John C McLean 1861–1942
BURIAL Evergreen Cemetery, Union City, Erie County, Pennsylvania, USA
PLOT Section 1 Lot 38
Maintained by: Find a Grave
Originally Created by: Ted K
Added: 13 Jul 2013
Find a Grave Memorial 113758042.2
George Hiram McLean was listed as a resident in Lewis Hoyt McLean and Mary Elizabeth Lamphier's household in the census report on 11 June 1870 at Union City, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 429-A, lines 30-35, dwelling 278, family 279
30 MCLEAN, L. H. 47 [1823] M W Blacksmith $2000 $500 NY
31 " , Mary E. 45 [1825] F W Housekeeper NY
32 " , Francis 21 [1849] M W Printer PA
33 " , Charles 17 [1853] M W Works Bbl Factory PA
34 " , John C. 9 [1861] M W PA
35 " , George H. 5 [1865] M W PA.1
George Hiram McLean was listed as a resident in Lewis Hoyt McLean and Mary Elizabeth Lamphier's household in the census report on 11 June 1880 at Union City, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 237-A, lines 25-28, dwelling 302, famikly 311
25 MCLANE, Lewis H. W M 56 [1824] Mareried Labourer NY PA NY
26 " , Mary E. W F 55 [1825] Wife Married Keeping House NY CT NY
27 " , John C. W M 19 [1861] Son Single Printer PA NY NY
28 " , George H. W M 15 [1865] Son Single At School PA NY NY.3
Citations
- [S5050] 1870 Federal Census, 1870 Census PA Erie Co Union City, Year: 1870; Census Place: Union, Erie, Pennsylvania; Roll: M593_1341; Page: 429A; Family History Library Film: 552840
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7163&h=41108553
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7163/images/4278561_00671 - [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 02 April 2021), memorial page for George Hiram McLean (1863–21 Jul 1883), Find a Grave Memorial no. 113758042, citing Evergreen Cemetery, Union City, Erie County, Pennsylvania, USA; Maintained by Find a Grave (contributor 8), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/113758042. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S5058] 1880 Federal Census, 1880 Census PA Erie Co Union City, Year: 1880; Census Place: Union City, Erie, Pennsylvania; Roll: 1129; Page: 237A; Enumeration District: 173
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=6742&h=29382784
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6742/images/4244337-00047
Villa McLean1
F, #96106, b. circa 1856
Father | Lewis Hoyt McLean1 b. 15 Feb 1824, d. 4 Nov 1896 |
Mother | Mary Elizabeth Lamphier1 b. 1 Feb 1825, d. 30 Apr 1894 |
Charts | Chart of Descendants of Alexander Armstrong, Sr Chart of Descendants of John S. McLean |
Last Edited | 2 Apr 2021 |
Villa McLean was born circa 1856 at Union City, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; Aged 4 in 1860 census.1
Villa McLean was listed as a resident in Lewis Hoyt McLean and Mary Elizabeth Lamphier's household in the census report on 4 June 1860 at Union City, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 1018, lines 18-23, dwelling 72, family 73
18 MCLEAN, Lewis 36 [1824] M Farmer $1000 $150 NY
19 " , Mary E. 35 [1825] F NY
20 " , Edwin F. 11 [1849] M PA
21 " , Charles 7 p1853] M PA
22 " , Villa 4 [1856] F PA
23 LUMPKIN, Armena 17 [1843] F PA.1
Villa McLean was listed as a resident in Lewis Hoyt McLean and Mary Elizabeth Lamphier's household in the census report on 4 June 1860 at Union City, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 1018, lines 18-23, dwelling 72, family 73
18 MCLEAN, Lewis 36 [1824] M Farmer $1000 $150 NY
19 " , Mary E. 35 [1825] F NY
20 " , Edwin F. 11 [1849] M PA
21 " , Charles 7 p1853] M PA
22 " , Villa 4 [1856] F PA
23 LUMPKIN, Armena 17 [1843] F PA.1
Citations
- [S5056] 1860 Federal Census, 1860 Census PA Erie Co Union City, Year: 1860; Census Place: Union, Erie, Pennsylvania; Page: 1018; Family History Library Film: 805108
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7667&h=3670033
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7667/images/4289002_00411
Lucinda Cotrell1
F, #96107, b. July 1853
Charts | Chart of Descendants of Alexander Armstrong, Sr Chart of Descendants of John S. McLean |
Last Edited | 2 Apr 2021 |
Lucinda Cotrell was born in July 1853 at Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; Aged 18 in the 1870 census; 27 in 1880; 46 in 1900 census adn born July 1853.1,2,3 She married Francis "Frank" E. McLean, son of Lewis Hoyt McLean and Mary Elizabeth Lamphier, circa 1873 at Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA,
; Married 27 years per 1900 census (p. 18, lines 39-41.)1,3
Lucinda Cotrell lived in 1920 at Erie, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; Ancestry.com - U.S., City Directories, 1822-1995
Source Information: Ancestry.com. U.S., City Directories, 1822-1995 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: Original sources vary according to directory. The title of the specific directory being viewed is listed at the top of the image viewer page. Check the directory title page image for full title and publication information.4
; Married 27 years per 1900 census (p. 18, lines 39-41.)1,3
Lucinda Cotrell lived in 1920 at Erie, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; Ancestry.com - U.S., City Directories, 1822-1995
Record ID 2469::199060596
Record Page Link
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Name Lucinda Maclean
Gender Female
Residence Year 1920
Street Address 1051 W 9th
Residence Place Erie, Pennsylvania, USA
Spouse Frank Maclean
Publication Title Erie, Pennsylvania,
Record Page Link
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Name Lucinda Maclean
Gender Female
Residence Year 1920
Street Address 1051 W 9th
Residence Place Erie, Pennsylvania, USA
Spouse Frank Maclean
Publication Title Erie, Pennsylvania,
Source Information: Ancestry.com. U.S., City Directories, 1822-1995 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: Original sources vary according to directory. The title of the specific directory being viewed is listed at the top of the image viewer page. Check the directory title page image for full title and publication information.4
Family | Francis "Frank" E. McLean b. 4 Jun 1849, d. 7 Jun 1913 |
Citations
- [S5048] 1870 Federal Census, 1870 Census PA Erie Co Waterford Twp., Year: 1870; Census Place: Waterford, Erie, Pennsylvania; Roll: M593_1341; Page: 513B; Family History Library Film: 55284
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7163&h=41114978
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7163/images/4278561_00840 - [S5058] 1880 Federal Census, 1880 Census PA Erie Co Union City, Year: 1880; Census Place: Union City, Erie, Pennsylvania; Roll: 1129; Page: 238D; Enumeration District: 173
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=6742&h=37083507
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6742/images/4244337-00050 - [S5044] 1900 Federal Census, 1900 Census PA Erie Co Union City, Year: 1900; Census Place: Union City, Erie, Pennsylvania; Page: 18; Enumeration District: 0124; FHL microfilm: 1241409
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7602&h=46718150
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7602/images/4115089_00352 - [S2354] Ancestry.Com Web Site, online http://search.ancestry.com/, U.S., City Directories, 1822-1995
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=2469&h=199060596
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/2469/images/3077147. Hereinafter cited as Ancestry.Com Web Site.
May E. Moore1
F, #96108, b. 17 December 1859, d. 30 May 1951
Father | George Moore1 b. 10 Aug 1827, d. 5 Oct 1907 |
Mother | Deborah McLean1 b. 19 Jul 1827, d. 10 Mar 1912 |
Charts | Chart of Descendants of Alexander Armstrong, Sr Chart of Descendants of John S. McLean |
Last Edited | 3 Apr 2021 |
May E. Moore was born on 17 December 1859 at Waterford Township, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA.1
May E. Moore died on 30 May 1951 at Erie, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA, at age 91; Died unmarried
Ancestry.com - Pennsylvania, U.S., Death Certificates, 1906-1967
Source Citation: Pennsylvania Historic and Museum Commission; Harrisburg, PA; Pennsylvania (State). Death Certificates, 1906-1968; Certificate Number Range: 041851-044400
Source Information: Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, U.S., Death Certificates, 1906-1967 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data: Pennsylvania (State). Death certificates, 1906–1968. Series 11.90 (1,905 cartons). Records of the Pennsylvania Department of Health, Record Group 11. Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.1
May E. Moore was buried on 2 June 1951 at Waterford Cemetery, Waterford, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; burial location from death certificate. No memorial found on Find A Grave.1
May E. Moore was listed as a resident in George Moore and Deborah McLean's household in the census report on 3 June 1880 at First Street, Waterford, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 307-D, lines 20-23, dwelling 30, family 38
20 MOORE, George W M 53 [1827] Married Farmer PA Ire PA
21 " , Deborah W F 52 [1828] Wife Married Keeping House NY PA NY
22 " , May E. W F 19 [1861] Daughter Single At home PA PA PA
23 " , Gordon B. W M 8 [1872] Son At School PA PA PA.2
May E. Moore was listed as a resident in George Moore and Deborah McLean's household in the census report on 1 June 1900 at East First Street, Waterford, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 2, lines 16-19, dwelling 35, family 36
16 MOORE, George Head W M Aug 1827 72 Married 43yrs PA PA PA
17 " , Dora Wife W F July 1827 72 Married 4.yrs 2-children-born 2-children-living NY NY NY
18 " , May Daughter W F Mary 1861 39 Single PA PA NY
19 WALKER, Nellie Boarder W F May 1875 25 single Canada Can Ire Milliner.3
May E. Moore died on 30 May 1951 at Erie, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA, at age 91; Died unmarried
Ancestry.com - Pennsylvania, U.S., Death Certificates, 1906-1967
Record ID 5164::6538604
Record Page Link
Image Page Open
Name May E Moore
Gender Female
Race White
Age 91
Birth Date 17 December 1859
Birth Place Waterford Township, Pennsylvania
Death Date 30 May 1951
Death Place Erie, Erie, Pennsylvania, USA
Father George Moore
Mother Deborah Mc Lean
Certificate Number 43089
Record Page Link
Image Page Open
Name May E Moore
Gender Female
Race White
Age 91
Birth Date 17 December 1859
Birth Place Waterford Township, Pennsylvania
Death Date 30 May 1951
Death Place Erie, Erie, Pennsylvania, USA
Father George Moore
Mother Deborah Mc Lean
Certificate Number 43089
Source Citation: Pennsylvania Historic and Museum Commission; Harrisburg, PA; Pennsylvania (State). Death Certificates, 1906-1968; Certificate Number Range: 041851-044400
Source Information: Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, U.S., Death Certificates, 1906-1967 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data: Pennsylvania (State). Death certificates, 1906–1968. Series 11.90 (1,905 cartons). Records of the Pennsylvania Department of Health, Record Group 11. Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.1
May E. Moore was buried on 2 June 1951 at Waterford Cemetery, Waterford, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; burial location from death certificate. No memorial found on Find A Grave.1
May E. Moore was listed as a resident in George Moore and Deborah McLean's household in the census report on 3 June 1880 at First Street, Waterford, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 307-D, lines 20-23, dwelling 30, family 38
20 MOORE, George W M 53 [1827] Married Farmer PA Ire PA
21 " , Deborah W F 52 [1828] Wife Married Keeping House NY PA NY
22 " , May E. W F 19 [1861] Daughter Single At home PA PA PA
23 " , Gordon B. W M 8 [1872] Son At School PA PA PA.2
May E. Moore was listed as a resident in George Moore and Deborah McLean's household in the census report on 1 June 1900 at East First Street, Waterford, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 2, lines 16-19, dwelling 35, family 36
16 MOORE, George Head W M Aug 1827 72 Married 43yrs PA PA PA
17 " , Dora Wife W F July 1827 72 Married 4.yrs 2-children-born 2-children-living NY NY NY
18 " , May Daughter W F Mary 1861 39 Single PA PA NY
19 WALKER, Nellie Boarder W F May 1875 25 single Canada Can Ire Milliner.3
Citations
- [S2354] Ancestry.Com Web Site, online http://search.ancestry.com/, Pennsylvania, U.S., Death Certificates, 1906-1967
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=5164&h=6538604
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/5164/images/42410_2421406271_1009-01873?_ga=2.93216093.1318652099.1616074811-443359675.1574024807. Hereinafter cited as Ancestry.Com Web Site. - [S5041] 1880 Federal Census, 1880 Census PA Erie Co Waterford Twp., Year: 1880; Census Place: Waterford, Erie, Pennsylvania; Roll: 1129; Page: 307D; Enumeration District: 177
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=6742&h=37086698
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6742/images/4244337-00188 - [S5049] 1900 Federal Census, 1900 Census PA Erie Co Waterford Twp., Year: 1900; Census Place: Waterford, Erie, Pennsylvania; Page: 2; Enumeration District: 0129; FHL microfilm: 1241409
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7602&h=46724399
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7602/images/4115089_00483
Gordon B. Moore1
M, #96109, b. circa 1872
Father | George Moore1 b. 10 Aug 1827, d. 5 Oct 1907 |
Mother | Deborah McLean1 b. 19 Jul 1827, d. 10 Mar 1912 |
Charts | Chart of Descendants of Alexander Armstrong, Sr Chart of Descendants of John S. McLean |
Last Edited | 4 Apr 2021 |
Gordon B. Moore was born circa 1872 at Waterford, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; Age 9 in the 1880 census.1
Gordon B. Moore was listed as a resident in George Moore and Deborah McLean's household in the census report on 3 June 1880 at First Street, Waterford, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 307-D, lines 20-23, dwelling 30, family 38
20 MOORE, George W M 53 [1827] Married Farmer PA Ire PA
21 " , Deborah W F 52 [1828] Wife Married Keeping House NY PA NY
22 " , May E. W F 19 [1861] Daughter Single At home PA PA PA
23 " , Gordon B. W M 8 [1872] Son At School PA PA PA.1
Gordon B. Moore appeared in the census of 2 June 1900 at 114 West 14th Street, Erie, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; There is a Gordon V. [sic] Moore as a boarder in Erie. In the 1900 census his mother reported that both of her children were living. This is probably her son, Gordon B. Moore. The year of birth is the same.
p. 3, line 95, Dwelling 54, Family 66
95 MOORE, Gordon V. Boarder W M Sept 1872 27 Single PA PA PA Works in Laundry.2
Gordon B. Moore was listed as a resident in George Moore and Deborah McLean's household in the census report on 3 June 1880 at First Street, Waterford, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 307-D, lines 20-23, dwelling 30, family 38
20 MOORE, George W M 53 [1827] Married Farmer PA Ire PA
21 " , Deborah W F 52 [1828] Wife Married Keeping House NY PA NY
22 " , May E. W F 19 [1861] Daughter Single At home PA PA PA
23 " , Gordon B. W M 8 [1872] Son At School PA PA PA.1
Gordon B. Moore appeared in the census of 2 June 1900 at 114 West 14th Street, Erie, Erie Co., Pennsylvania, USA; There is a Gordon V. [sic] Moore as a boarder in Erie. In the 1900 census his mother reported that both of her children were living. This is probably her son, Gordon B. Moore. The year of birth is the same.
p. 3, line 95, Dwelling 54, Family 66
95 MOORE, Gordon V. Boarder W M Sept 1872 27 Single PA PA PA Works in Laundry.2
Citations
- [S5041] 1880 Federal Census, 1880 Census PA Erie Co Waterford Twp., Year: 1880; Census Place: Waterford, Erie, Pennsylvania; Roll: 1129; Page: 307D; Enumeration District: 177
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=6742&h=37086698
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6742/images/4244337-00188 - [S5059] 1900 Federal Census, 1900 Census PA Erie Co Erie, Year: 1900; Census Place: Erie Ward 3, Erie, Pennsylvania; Page: 3; Enumeration District: 0082; FHL microfilm: 1241408
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7602&h=46661491
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7602/images/4115088_00174
Lydia A. Lyon1,2,3
F, #96110, b. between 1818 and 1819
Father | Abel Lyon3 b. 16 Apr 1794, d. 1 Mar 1875 |
Mother | Pamelia (?)3 b. 17 Jun 1794, d. 24 Jan 1885 |
Last Edited | 23 Jun 2021 |
Lydia A. Lyon married James F. McLean.2
Lydia A. Lyon was born between 1818 and 1819 at Wayne Co., New York, USA; Aged 31 in 1850 census; 42 in 1860.4,3
; The fate of William2 F. McLEAN’s sixth child, James3 McClean (William2, John1) is uncertain. The source of his birth and death dates are from the family Bible of Sarah2 (ARMSTRONG) McLEAN, his grandmother.ii McLean [nd] No middle initial is given in that record. The date of birth is written clearly, and reads October 18th 1816. However, the date of death has been crossed out and changed. The crossed-out portion may read “September the 13th”. The added date is “October 8, 1852.” This segment of the Bible page is shown below.
Figure 269: Clipping from Family Bible of Sarah2 (ARMSTRONG) McLEAN Showing the Entry for James3 McClean (William2, John1)iiii McLean [nd]
[Image of original bible entry is attached.]
Identifying what happened to James3 McClean (William2, John1) may lie in solving the following puzzle involving the records of three men named James McLean who may or may not have been the same man. Here is the evidence discovered so far.
A. Who was the real James McLean?
There are two other James McLeans11 For clarity in the following dicussion, “James3 McClean (William2, John1)” refers to the son of William F. McLEAN (John1); “James McLean #1” refers to the James F. Mclean buried in Wayne County, New York; while “James McLean #2” refers to the James F. Mclean buried in White County, Indiana. for whom records have been found, either of whom might have been James3 McClean (William2, John1), though neither is a certain match. What adds to the confusion is that though the vital dates for these two other James’s are not exactly the same, there is some evidence that all three men may have been the same person.
James McLean #1:
There is a James F. McLean buried in Wayne County, New York.ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309. His grave marker read “Died Sept. 13, 1852 Aged 35 yrs. 10 ms & 21 ds.”iiii An image of the grave marker is posted on FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309. The date of death is identical to one possible interpretation of the date of birth of James3 McClean (William2, John1) in the family Bible. The date of birth calculated from the grave marker inscription is 23 October 1816, only seven days different from that given in the McLean family Bible.
Further research on this man has found a probate record in Wayne County, dated 19 January 1853, for a James F. McLean who had died intestate and who had a wife named Lydia A. who was named heir.ii[:ITAL]iiii Ancestry.com NYWills: Record seen on 3 April 2021 at https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8800&h=2841751;
There is also an 1850 census Wayne County listing for a James F. McLean with a wife listed as Lydia A. There are two children listed in in this household: a daughter, Betsy, aged 11 (i.e., born ca 1839) and a three month old son, William C. (i.e., born ca April 1850). It is possible that the James who died and was buried in 1852 was the James who died intestate with a wife named Lydia A., and also the same James F. listed in the 1850 census. No further record of the daughter, Betsy McLean, has been found.
Figure 270: Census Detail for the James F. McLean Household from the 1850 U. S. Census, Wolcott Twp., Wayne County, New York ii 1850Wolcott: p. 525-A, lines 6-12.
Line Name Age YOB11 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB22 Place of birth
8 McLEAN, James F. 32 1818 M Carpenter $800 New York
9 “ , Lydia A. 31 1819 F New York
10 “ , William C. 3/12 1850 M New York
11 “ , Betsy 11 1839 F At School New York
12 SWARTOUT, Asa P. 34 1816 M Tailor New York
Date of Census: 26 July 1850
The presence of thirty-four year old Asa Swartout (Swarthout) in the same household with James is a clue that this James F. McLean #1 could well have been James3 McClean (William2, John1). James3 grew up in Benton Twp. In the 1840 US census there were four SWARTHOUT households (carious spellings) listed for Benton Twp. and another eight households in nearby towns of Yates County. Research shows that Asa P. Swarthout was probably the son of John L./S. Swarthout who was living in Benton Twp. at the time of the 1840 census.iiii 1840Benton: p. 267, line 7. Furthermore, in this census this John L./S. Swarthout was listed as living next door to (next line) William2 F. McLEAN (John1). Asa probably grew up with James3 McClean (William2, John1) in Yates County and may even have moved to Wayne County together.
Further research found a Lydia McLean with a ten year old son, William McLean, living in the household of an Abel and Pamelia Lyon in 1860. These are evidently Lydia’s parents (as subsequently shown by the 1880 census listing). There is no record of her daughter, Betsy, in this census and Betsy, being about 21 in 1860, may have married by then or died.
Figure 271: Census Detail for the Abel Lyon Household from the 1860 U. S. Census, Red Creek Village, Wayne County, New York iiiiii 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
Line Name Age YOB33 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB44 Place of birth
12 LYON, Abel 66 1794 M No Occupation New York
13 “ , Amelia [sic] 66 1794 F New York
14 McLEAN, Lydia 42 1818 F New York
15 “ , William 10 1850 M At School New York
Date of Census: 23 October 1860
In the 1870 census Lydia McLean is still with her parents, but now William and Betsy are both missing.
Figure 272: Census Detail for the Abel Lyon Household from the 1870 U. S. Census, Town of Rose, Wayne County, New York ii 1870Rose: p. 408-B, lines 14-15.
Line Name Age YOB11 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB22 Place of birth
14 LYON, Abel 76 1794 M Retired Merchant New York
15 “ , Pamelia 75 1795 F Keeping House New York
16 McLEAN, Lydia 45 1825 F Tailoress New York
Date of Census: 13 June 1870
In the 1880 census, the widow Lydia McLean is living with a widowed Pamelia Lyon and is listed as Pamelia’s daughter. This indicates that the wife of James F. McLean who had died and was listed with him in the 1850 census, and then mentioned as his widow and heir in his 1853 probate record was Lydia A. (Lyon) McLean. No further record of the son William C. McLean has been found.
Figure 273: Census Detail for the Amelia [sic] Lyon Household from the 1880 U. S. Census, Town of Rose, Wayne County, New York iiii1880Rose: p. 392-B, lines 23-24.
Line Name Race Sex Age YOB33 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Status Occupation POB44 Place of birth
23 LYON, Amelia W F 86 1794 Widowed Retired Merchant New York
16 McLEAN, Lydia W F 62 1818 Widowed Tailoress New York
Date of Census: 25 June 1880
Neither a burial record nor any other records have been found for Lydia (Lyon) McLean in New York.
In summary, This seems to be one family of a James F. and a Lydia A. (Lyon) McClean, with two children: Betsy (who may have died or married before 1860) and William C., who may have died or moved away before 1870. The birth and death dates of this James F. are close to those given in the family Bible for James3 McClean (William2, John1).
James McLean #2:
There are graves in Indiana for a couple, James McLean and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean with a son, William Edwin McLean, recorded in the Old Monticello Cemetery in Monticello, White County, Indiana.ii[:ITAL]iiii FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William). There are grave markers for Lydia Ann and William Edwin, but none for James. The information given on FindAGrave.com is as follows:
Figure 274: Information on the James and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean and William Edwin McLean Buried in Old Monticello Cemetery, White County, Indiana i[:BOLD]viv FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
Name
Birth
Death
James McLean
1818, New York
6 May 1891, Monticello, White County, Indiana
Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean
25 December 1817
17 October 1896
William Edwin McLean
23 April 1850, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York
9 September 1927, Cook County, Illinois
This couple has not been found in any census records in Indiana in 1850, 1860, 1870 or 1880, nor has any other record been found of them in Indiana.
No grave marker was found for James McLean, though the burial was recorded.
The grave marker for Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean reads “Died Oct. 17, 1896 Aged 78y. 9m. 22d.” The birth date calculated from this inscription matches the birth date on the memorial page.
A Cook County, Illinois death recordii FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm. for William Edwin McLean confirms his birth date (23 April 1850) and birth place in “Red Creek, New York.” The years (only) of birth and death are inscribed on his grave marker.i[ITAL:]iii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180726.
In summary, this family was apparently from New York (where their son William Edwin was born in Wayne County) and at some point they apparently moved to Indiana. Nothing else is known about them.
William2 F. McLEAN (John S.1) and three of his other children, all migrated to Indiana sometime after 27 July 1850 (when he appeared in the 1850 U. S. census in Milo Twp.), and before his death on 28 January 1855 in Fountain County. With his father and siblings in Indiana, it is possible that James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) also decided to move his family to Indiana; perhaps around the same time (1850-1855), or later. Fountain County is not that far from White County where James McLean #2 was eventually buried.
Comparing the few facts known for James3 McClean (William2, John S.1), James F. McLean (#1) and James McLean (#2) does not necessarily preclude that all three are the same man. However, there are two burials, and taken on face value the existence of two different burials would seem to preclude that James F. McLean (#1) who died in New York in 1852 is the same man as James McLean (#2) who died in 1891 and was buried in Indiana.
Figure 275: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for James3 McClean (William2, John1), James F. McLean (#1) and James McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
James3 McClean (William2, John1) – from Family Bibleiiiiii McLean [nd]
18th October 1816
13 September 1852 or 8th October 1852
James F. McLean – from grave marker inscriptioni[:ITAL]viv FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
23 October 1816255]
13 September 1852, New York
James McLean – from Find A grave memorialvv FindAGrave.com Memorial #141474776.
1818, New York
6 May 1891, Monticello, White County, Indiana
B. Who was the real Lydia (Lyon) McLean?
Not only do we have three James McLeans, it seems we also have two Lydia (Lyon) McLeans, who each married a James McLean:
Figure 276: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for Lydia A. (Lyon) McLean (#1) and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
Lydia A. (Lyon) McClean (#1) – from probate, 1850 & 1860 censusesii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ca 1818/19 (from ages in 1850 and 1860 census)
unknown
Lydia Ann (Lyon) McClean (#2) – from grave markeri[:ITAL]iii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180623.
25 December 1817255]
17 October 1896255]
It is feasible that these two women are the same person. Their dates of birth aren’t that far off, allowing for the errors in ages listed that were common in census enumerations.
C. Who was the real William McLean?
Finally, we have the two sons named William to consider:
The William C. McLean11 His name appears with a middle initial (“C.”) only in the 1850 census, not in the 1860 census. who was in his father’s household in the 1850 census and with his mother and maternal grandparents in the 1860 census, and was probably born in Wayne County, New York.
The William Edwin McLean who was buried in Indiana and was born in Red Crook, Wayne County.
The names William and Edwin were common in the McClean family of Benton. James3 McClean (William2, John1) had a father named William, as well as a brother. He also had an uncle and a cousin named George Edwin, a first cousin named Edwin, and a first cousin named William Edwin. It would not have been unusual for him to choose to name a son, William Edwin.
No record – other than their burials – has been found for James (#2) and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean and their son William Edwin McLean living in White County. Indiana. William married Sue Ellen Obenchain (various spellings) in Chicago in 1890, and he died there in 1927. However, the 1880 censusiiiiii 1880Monticello: p. 286-A, lines 15-22. shows “Susie Obenchinn” living in her parents household in Monticello, White County. This opens the possibility that she and William met in Indiana first before they married in Chicago. William and his wife “Lulu E.” were living in Chicago in the 1900 censusiviv 1900Chicago34: p. 11, lines 10-14. with a son, William M. who was born in Feb 1893 in Indiana. Thus, though William Edwin and Sue Ellen were married in Chicago, it seems that they had returned to Indiana for some period (at least ca Feb 1893 in time for the birth of their child) before moving back to Chicago in time for the 1900 census.
William Edwin’s father, James McLean (#2), died in 1891 and his mother, Lydia Ann (Lyon), in 1896. William Edwin’s son was born in Indiana in 1893. Thus, one can speculate that following their June 1890 Chicago marriage, William Edwin and Sue Ellen had moved to White County to be near both their parents, and then moved back to Chicago after the deaths of James and Lydia. Sue Ellen’s own parents, Madison Lewis and Morgianna (Armour) Obenchain, still lived on in Monticello, White County, with her father dying there in 1912.vv FindAGrave.com Memorial #41515503.
The next years are confusing and the record is sparse. William Edwin McLean has not been found in the 1910 census, while his wife, Sue Ellen McLean, and their son, William, appeared in 1910 as boarders in the household of an apparently unrelated John Johnson in Biloxi, Harrison County, Mississippi.vivi 1910Biloxi: p. 1-B, lines 68-72. There is no obvious reason for their presence in Mississippi, or for the absence of William Edwin. In the 1920 census,viivii 1920Chicago: p. 4-A, lines 40-43. William Edwin, Sue Ellen and their son William M. are all back living together in Chicago (with Sue Ellen’s mother living with them).
Figure 277: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for William C. McLean (#1) and William Edwin McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
William C. McClean – from 1850 & 1860 censusesviiiviii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ca April 1850
unknown
William Edwin McClean – from death recordi[:ITAL]xix FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.
23 April 1850, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York
9 September 1927, Cook County, Illinois
D. Conclusions
The James F. McLean buried in Wayne County certainly seems to match James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) in terms of his dates of birth and death.
It is logical that with his father and siblings in Indiana, James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) would have at some point chosen to move there with his family, as well, and thus could have eventually died there.
The 1850 census and 1853 probate records tell us that those two men were the same, then James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) married a woman named Lydia A. Lyon and had children by her, one of who was named William.
The presence of Asa P. Swartout in the 1850 census, increases the likelihood that the James F. McLean in that census came from Benton Twp.
The Lydia in New York comes close in birth dates to matching the Lydia buried in Indiana.
The son of James F. and Lydia A. McLean, William C., in the 1850 census could well be the same man as the William Edwin born in Wayne County and buried in Indiana. The birthdates and birth places are the same.
Who was the James McLean #2 buried in Indiana, if James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) was the James F. McLean #1 and died in 1852?
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i McLean [nd]
ii McLean [nd]
i FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
ii An image of the grave marker is posted on FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
iii Ancestry.com NYWills: Record seen on 3 April 2021 at https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8800&h=2841751;
i 1850Wolcott: p. 525-A, lines 6-12.
ii 1840Benton: p. 267, line 7.
iii 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
i 1870Rose: p. 408-B, lines 14-15.
ii1880Rose: p. 392-B, lines 23-24.
iii FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
iv FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
i FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.
ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180726.
iii McLean [nd]
iv FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
v FindAGrave.com Memorial #141474776.
i 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180623.
iii 1880Monticello: p. 286-A, lines 15-22.
iv 1900Chicago34: p. 11, lines 10-14.
v FindAGrave.com Memorial #41515503.
vi 1910Biloxi: p. 1-B, lines 68-72.
vii 1920Chicago: p. 4-A, lines 40-43.
viii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ix FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.5,6,3,4,7,8,9,10
Lydia A. Lyon and James F. McLean appeared in the census of 26 July 1850 at Wolcott, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 525-A, lines 6-12, dwelling 192, family 192
8 MCLEAN, James 32 [1818] M Tailor $800 NY
9 " , Lydia A. 31 [1819] F NY
10 " , William C. 3/12 [Apr 1850] M NY
11 " , Betsy 11 [1839] F NY Attended School
12 SWARTOUT, Asa P. 34 [1816] M Tailor NY.4 Lydia A. Lyon was listed as a beneficiary in James F. McLean's will on 19 January 1853 at Wayne Co., New York, USA; Ancestry.com - New York, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1659-1999
Source Citation: Probate Records, 1823-1903; Probate Index, 1823-1964; Author: New York. Surrogate's Court (Wayne County); Probate Place: Wayne, New York
Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1659-1999 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015.
Original data: New York County, District and Probate Courts.2
Lydia A. Lyon was listed as a resident in Abel Lyon and Pamelia (?)'s household in the census report on 23 October 1860 at Red Creek Village, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 741, lines 12-15, dwelling 311, family 312
12 LYON, Abel 66 [1794] M No Occupation $1200 $700 NY
13 " , Amerlia 66 [1794] F NY
14 MCLEAN, Lydia 42 [1818] F NY
15 " , William 10 [1850] M NY Attended School.3
Lydia A. Lyon was listed as a resident in Abel Lyon and Pamelia (?)'s household in the census report on 13 June 1870 at Rose, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 408-B, lines 14-16, dwelling 167, family 181
14 LYON, Abel 76 [1794] M W Retired Merchant $1700 $1500 NY
15 " , Pamelia 75 [1795] F W Keeping House NY
16 MCLANE, Lydia 45 [1825] F W Tailoress NY.11
Lydia A. Lyon was listed as a resident in Pamelia (?)'s household in the census report on 25 June 1880 at Rose, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 382-B, lines 23-24, dwelling 502, family 187
23 LYON, Amelia W F 86 [1794] Widowed Without emloy NY NY NY
24 MCLEAN, Liddie 62 [1818] Daughter Widowed Keeping House NY NY NY.12
Lydia A. Lyon was born between 1818 and 1819 at Wayne Co., New York, USA; Aged 31 in 1850 census; 42 in 1860.4,3
; The fate of William2 F. McLEAN’s sixth child, James3 McClean (William2, John1) is uncertain. The source of his birth and death dates are from the family Bible of Sarah2 (ARMSTRONG) McLEAN, his grandmother.ii McLean [nd] No middle initial is given in that record. The date of birth is written clearly, and reads October 18th 1816. However, the date of death has been crossed out and changed. The crossed-out portion may read “September the 13th”. The added date is “October 8, 1852.” This segment of the Bible page is shown below.
Figure 269: Clipping from Family Bible of Sarah2 (ARMSTRONG) McLEAN Showing the Entry for James3 McClean (William2, John1)iiii McLean [nd]
[Image of original bible entry is attached.]
Identifying what happened to James3 McClean (William2, John1) may lie in solving the following puzzle involving the records of three men named James McLean who may or may not have been the same man. Here is the evidence discovered so far.
A. Who was the real James McLean?
There are two other James McLeans11 For clarity in the following dicussion, “James3 McClean (William2, John1)” refers to the son of William F. McLEAN (John1); “James McLean #1” refers to the James F. Mclean buried in Wayne County, New York; while “James McLean #2” refers to the James F. Mclean buried in White County, Indiana. for whom records have been found, either of whom might have been James3 McClean (William2, John1), though neither is a certain match. What adds to the confusion is that though the vital dates for these two other James’s are not exactly the same, there is some evidence that all three men may have been the same person.
James McLean #1:
There is a James F. McLean buried in Wayne County, New York.ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309. His grave marker read “Died Sept. 13, 1852 Aged 35 yrs. 10 ms & 21 ds.”iiii An image of the grave marker is posted on FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309. The date of death is identical to one possible interpretation of the date of birth of James3 McClean (William2, John1) in the family Bible. The date of birth calculated from the grave marker inscription is 23 October 1816, only seven days different from that given in the McLean family Bible.
Further research on this man has found a probate record in Wayne County, dated 19 January 1853, for a James F. McLean who had died intestate and who had a wife named Lydia A. who was named heir.ii[:ITAL]iiii Ancestry.com NYWills: Record seen on 3 April 2021 at https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8800&h=2841751;
There is also an 1850 census Wayne County listing for a James F. McLean with a wife listed as Lydia A. There are two children listed in in this household: a daughter, Betsy, aged 11 (i.e., born ca 1839) and a three month old son, William C. (i.e., born ca April 1850). It is possible that the James who died and was buried in 1852 was the James who died intestate with a wife named Lydia A., and also the same James F. listed in the 1850 census. No further record of the daughter, Betsy McLean, has been found.
Figure 270: Census Detail for the James F. McLean Household from the 1850 U. S. Census, Wolcott Twp., Wayne County, New York ii 1850Wolcott: p. 525-A, lines 6-12.
Line Name Age YOB11 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB22 Place of birth
8 McLEAN, James F. 32 1818 M Carpenter $800 New York
9 “ , Lydia A. 31 1819 F New York
10 “ , William C. 3/12 1850 M New York
11 “ , Betsy 11 1839 F At School New York
12 SWARTOUT, Asa P. 34 1816 M Tailor New York
Date of Census: 26 July 1850
The presence of thirty-four year old Asa Swartout (Swarthout) in the same household with James is a clue that this James F. McLean #1 could well have been James3 McClean (William2, John1). James3 grew up in Benton Twp. In the 1840 US census there were four SWARTHOUT households (carious spellings) listed for Benton Twp. and another eight households in nearby towns of Yates County. Research shows that Asa P. Swarthout was probably the son of John L./S. Swarthout who was living in Benton Twp. at the time of the 1840 census.iiii 1840Benton: p. 267, line 7. Furthermore, in this census this John L./S. Swarthout was listed as living next door to (next line) William2 F. McLEAN (John1). Asa probably grew up with James3 McClean (William2, John1) in Yates County and may even have moved to Wayne County together.
Further research found a Lydia McLean with a ten year old son, William McLean, living in the household of an Abel and Pamelia Lyon in 1860. These are evidently Lydia’s parents (as subsequently shown by the 1880 census listing). There is no record of her daughter, Betsy, in this census and Betsy, being about 21 in 1860, may have married by then or died.
Figure 271: Census Detail for the Abel Lyon Household from the 1860 U. S. Census, Red Creek Village, Wayne County, New York iiiiii 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
Line Name Age YOB33 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB44 Place of birth
12 LYON, Abel 66 1794 M No Occupation New York
13 “ , Amelia [sic] 66 1794 F New York
14 McLEAN, Lydia 42 1818 F New York
15 “ , William 10 1850 M At School New York
Date of Census: 23 October 1860
In the 1870 census Lydia McLean is still with her parents, but now William and Betsy are both missing.
Figure 272: Census Detail for the Abel Lyon Household from the 1870 U. S. Census, Town of Rose, Wayne County, New York ii 1870Rose: p. 408-B, lines 14-15.
Line Name Age YOB11 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB22 Place of birth
14 LYON, Abel 76 1794 M Retired Merchant New York
15 “ , Pamelia 75 1795 F Keeping House New York
16 McLEAN, Lydia 45 1825 F Tailoress New York
Date of Census: 13 June 1870
In the 1880 census, the widow Lydia McLean is living with a widowed Pamelia Lyon and is listed as Pamelia’s daughter. This indicates that the wife of James F. McLean who had died and was listed with him in the 1850 census, and then mentioned as his widow and heir in his 1853 probate record was Lydia A. (Lyon) McLean. No further record of the son William C. McLean has been found.
Figure 273: Census Detail for the Amelia [sic] Lyon Household from the 1880 U. S. Census, Town of Rose, Wayne County, New York iiii1880Rose: p. 392-B, lines 23-24.
Line Name Race Sex Age YOB33 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Status Occupation POB44 Place of birth
23 LYON, Amelia W F 86 1794 Widowed Retired Merchant New York
16 McLEAN, Lydia W F 62 1818 Widowed Tailoress New York
Date of Census: 25 June 1880
Neither a burial record nor any other records have been found for Lydia (Lyon) McLean in New York.
In summary, This seems to be one family of a James F. and a Lydia A. (Lyon) McClean, with two children: Betsy (who may have died or married before 1860) and William C., who may have died or moved away before 1870. The birth and death dates of this James F. are close to those given in the family Bible for James3 McClean (William2, John1).
James McLean #2:
There are graves in Indiana for a couple, James McLean and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean with a son, William Edwin McLean, recorded in the Old Monticello Cemetery in Monticello, White County, Indiana.ii[:ITAL]iiii FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William). There are grave markers for Lydia Ann and William Edwin, but none for James. The information given on FindAGrave.com is as follows:
Figure 274: Information on the James and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean and William Edwin McLean Buried in Old Monticello Cemetery, White County, Indiana i[:BOLD]viv FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
Name
Birth
Death
James McLean
1818, New York
6 May 1891, Monticello, White County, Indiana
Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean
25 December 1817
17 October 1896
William Edwin McLean
23 April 1850, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York
9 September 1927, Cook County, Illinois
This couple has not been found in any census records in Indiana in 1850, 1860, 1870 or 1880, nor has any other record been found of them in Indiana.
No grave marker was found for James McLean, though the burial was recorded.
The grave marker for Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean reads “Died Oct. 17, 1896 Aged 78y. 9m. 22d.” The birth date calculated from this inscription matches the birth date on the memorial page.
A Cook County, Illinois death recordii FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm. for William Edwin McLean confirms his birth date (23 April 1850) and birth place in “Red Creek, New York.” The years (only) of birth and death are inscribed on his grave marker.i[ITAL:]iii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180726.
In summary, this family was apparently from New York (where their son William Edwin was born in Wayne County) and at some point they apparently moved to Indiana. Nothing else is known about them.
William2 F. McLEAN (John S.1) and three of his other children, all migrated to Indiana sometime after 27 July 1850 (when he appeared in the 1850 U. S. census in Milo Twp.), and before his death on 28 January 1855 in Fountain County. With his father and siblings in Indiana, it is possible that James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) also decided to move his family to Indiana; perhaps around the same time (1850-1855), or later. Fountain County is not that far from White County where James McLean #2 was eventually buried.
Comparing the few facts known for James3 McClean (William2, John S.1), James F. McLean (#1) and James McLean (#2) does not necessarily preclude that all three are the same man. However, there are two burials, and taken on face value the existence of two different burials would seem to preclude that James F. McLean (#1) who died in New York in 1852 is the same man as James McLean (#2) who died in 1891 and was buried in Indiana.
Figure 275: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for James3 McClean (William2, John1), James F. McLean (#1) and James McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
James3 McClean (William2, John1) – from Family Bibleiiiiii McLean [nd]
18th October 1816
13 September 1852 or 8th October 1852
James F. McLean – from grave marker inscriptioni[:ITAL]viv FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
23 October 1816255]
13 September 1852, New York
James McLean – from Find A grave memorialvv FindAGrave.com Memorial #141474776.
1818, New York
6 May 1891, Monticello, White County, Indiana
B. Who was the real Lydia (Lyon) McLean?
Not only do we have three James McLeans, it seems we also have two Lydia (Lyon) McLeans, who each married a James McLean:
Figure 276: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for Lydia A. (Lyon) McLean (#1) and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
Lydia A. (Lyon) McClean (#1) – from probate, 1850 & 1860 censusesii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ca 1818/19 (from ages in 1850 and 1860 census)
unknown
Lydia Ann (Lyon) McClean (#2) – from grave markeri[:ITAL]iii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180623.
25 December 1817255]
17 October 1896255]
It is feasible that these two women are the same person. Their dates of birth aren’t that far off, allowing for the errors in ages listed that were common in census enumerations.
C. Who was the real William McLean?
Finally, we have the two sons named William to consider:
The William C. McLean11 His name appears with a middle initial (“C.”) only in the 1850 census, not in the 1860 census. who was in his father’s household in the 1850 census and with his mother and maternal grandparents in the 1860 census, and was probably born in Wayne County, New York.
The William Edwin McLean who was buried in Indiana and was born in Red Crook, Wayne County.
The names William and Edwin were common in the McClean family of Benton. James3 McClean (William2, John1) had a father named William, as well as a brother. He also had an uncle and a cousin named George Edwin, a first cousin named Edwin, and a first cousin named William Edwin. It would not have been unusual for him to choose to name a son, William Edwin.
No record – other than their burials – has been found for James (#2) and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean and their son William Edwin McLean living in White County. Indiana. William married Sue Ellen Obenchain (various spellings) in Chicago in 1890, and he died there in 1927. However, the 1880 censusiiiiii 1880Monticello: p. 286-A, lines 15-22. shows “Susie Obenchinn” living in her parents household in Monticello, White County. This opens the possibility that she and William met in Indiana first before they married in Chicago. William and his wife “Lulu E.” were living in Chicago in the 1900 censusiviv 1900Chicago34: p. 11, lines 10-14. with a son, William M. who was born in Feb 1893 in Indiana. Thus, though William Edwin and Sue Ellen were married in Chicago, it seems that they had returned to Indiana for some period (at least ca Feb 1893 in time for the birth of their child) before moving back to Chicago in time for the 1900 census.
William Edwin’s father, James McLean (#2), died in 1891 and his mother, Lydia Ann (Lyon), in 1896. William Edwin’s son was born in Indiana in 1893. Thus, one can speculate that following their June 1890 Chicago marriage, William Edwin and Sue Ellen had moved to White County to be near both their parents, and then moved back to Chicago after the deaths of James and Lydia. Sue Ellen’s own parents, Madison Lewis and Morgianna (Armour) Obenchain, still lived on in Monticello, White County, with her father dying there in 1912.vv FindAGrave.com Memorial #41515503.
The next years are confusing and the record is sparse. William Edwin McLean has not been found in the 1910 census, while his wife, Sue Ellen McLean, and their son, William, appeared in 1910 as boarders in the household of an apparently unrelated John Johnson in Biloxi, Harrison County, Mississippi.vivi 1910Biloxi: p. 1-B, lines 68-72. There is no obvious reason for their presence in Mississippi, or for the absence of William Edwin. In the 1920 census,viivii 1920Chicago: p. 4-A, lines 40-43. William Edwin, Sue Ellen and their son William M. are all back living together in Chicago (with Sue Ellen’s mother living with them).
Figure 277: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for William C. McLean (#1) and William Edwin McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
William C. McClean – from 1850 & 1860 censusesviiiviii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ca April 1850
unknown
William Edwin McClean – from death recordi[:ITAL]xix FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.
23 April 1850, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York
9 September 1927, Cook County, Illinois
D. Conclusions
The James F. McLean buried in Wayne County certainly seems to match James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) in terms of his dates of birth and death.
It is logical that with his father and siblings in Indiana, James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) would have at some point chosen to move there with his family, as well, and thus could have eventually died there.
The 1850 census and 1853 probate records tell us that those two men were the same, then James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) married a woman named Lydia A. Lyon and had children by her, one of who was named William.
The presence of Asa P. Swartout in the 1850 census, increases the likelihood that the James F. McLean in that census came from Benton Twp.
The Lydia in New York comes close in birth dates to matching the Lydia buried in Indiana.
The son of James F. and Lydia A. McLean, William C., in the 1850 census could well be the same man as the William Edwin born in Wayne County and buried in Indiana. The birthdates and birth places are the same.
Who was the James McLean #2 buried in Indiana, if James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) was the James F. McLean #1 and died in 1852?
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i McLean [nd]
ii McLean [nd]
i FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
ii An image of the grave marker is posted on FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
iii Ancestry.com NYWills: Record seen on 3 April 2021 at https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8800&h=2841751;
i 1850Wolcott: p. 525-A, lines 6-12.
ii 1840Benton: p. 267, line 7.
iii 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
i 1870Rose: p. 408-B, lines 14-15.
ii1880Rose: p. 392-B, lines 23-24.
iii FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
iv FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
i FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.
ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180726.
iii McLean [nd]
iv FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
v FindAGrave.com Memorial #141474776.
i 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180623.
iii 1880Monticello: p. 286-A, lines 15-22.
iv 1900Chicago34: p. 11, lines 10-14.
v FindAGrave.com Memorial #41515503.
vi 1910Biloxi: p. 1-B, lines 68-72.
vii 1920Chicago: p. 4-A, lines 40-43.
viii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ix FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.5,6,3,4,7,8,9,10
Lydia A. Lyon and James F. McLean appeared in the census of 26 July 1850 at Wolcott, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 525-A, lines 6-12, dwelling 192, family 192
8 MCLEAN, James 32 [1818] M Tailor $800 NY
9 " , Lydia A. 31 [1819] F NY
10 " , William C. 3/12 [Apr 1850] M NY
11 " , Betsy 11 [1839] F NY Attended School
12 SWARTOUT, Asa P. 34 [1816] M Tailor NY.4 Lydia A. Lyon was listed as a beneficiary in James F. McLean's will on 19 January 1853 at Wayne Co., New York, USA; Ancestry.com - New York, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1659-1999
Record ID 8800::2841751
Name James F McLean
Probate Date 19 January 1853
Probate Place Wayne, New York, USA
Inferred Death Year Abt 1853
Inferred Death Place New York, USA
Item Description Administration, Vol C-D, 1852-1869
Name James F McLean
Probate Date 19 January 1853
Probate Place Wayne, New York, USA
Inferred Death Year Abt 1853
Inferred Death Place New York, USA
Item Description Administration, Vol C-D, 1852-1869
Source Citation: Probate Records, 1823-1903; Probate Index, 1823-1964; Author: New York. Surrogate's Court (Wayne County); Probate Place: Wayne, New York
Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1659-1999 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015.
Original data: New York County, District and Probate Courts.2
Lydia A. Lyon was listed as a resident in Abel Lyon and Pamelia (?)'s household in the census report on 23 October 1860 at Red Creek Village, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 741, lines 12-15, dwelling 311, family 312
12 LYON, Abel 66 [1794] M No Occupation $1200 $700 NY
13 " , Amerlia 66 [1794] F NY
14 MCLEAN, Lydia 42 [1818] F NY
15 " , William 10 [1850] M NY Attended School.3
Lydia A. Lyon was listed as a resident in Abel Lyon and Pamelia (?)'s household in the census report on 13 June 1870 at Rose, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 408-B, lines 14-16, dwelling 167, family 181
14 LYON, Abel 76 [1794] M W Retired Merchant $1700 $1500 NY
15 " , Pamelia 75 [1795] F W Keeping House NY
16 MCLANE, Lydia 45 [1825] F W Tailoress NY.11
Lydia A. Lyon was listed as a resident in Pamelia (?)'s household in the census report on 25 June 1880 at Rose, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 382-B, lines 23-24, dwelling 502, family 187
23 LYON, Amelia W F 86 [1794] Widowed Without emloy NY NY NY
24 MCLEAN, Liddie 62 [1818] Daughter Widowed Keeping House NY NY NY.12
Family | James F. McLean b. c 23 Oct 1816, d. 13 Sep 1852 |
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Citations
- She is in her father's household in the 1860 census, after death of her husband in 1852.
- [S2354] Ancestry.Com Web Site, online http://search.ancestry.com/, New York, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1659-1999
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8800&h=2841751
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8800/images/005117167_00055. Hereinafter cited as Ancestry.Com Web Site. - [S5076] 1860 Federal Census, 1860 Census NY Wayne Co Red Creek, Year: 1860; Census Place: Red Creek, Wayne, New York; Page: 741; Family History Library Film: 803877
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7667&h=49010758
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7667/images/4237104_00093 - [S5045] 1850 Federal Census, 1850 Census NY Wayne Co Wolcott, Year: 1850; Census Place: Wolcott, Wayne, New York; Roll: 613; Page: 525a
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8054&h=8812162
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8054/images/4181067_00459 - [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 26 March 2021), memorial page for James F McLean (1816–13 Sep 1852), Find a Grave Memorial no. 21259309, citing Fair Mount Cemetery, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York, USA; Maintained by Frank K. (contributor 46941322), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/21259309. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 4 April 2021; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 03 April 2021), memorial page for James McLean (1818–6 May 1891), Find a Grave Memorial no. 141474776, citing Old Monticello Cemetery, Monticello, White County, Indiana, USA; Maintained by Jack McIlrath (contributor 46933259), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/141474776
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 03 April 2021), memorial page for Lydia Ann Lyon McLean (25 Dec 1817–17 Oct 1896), Find a Grave Memorial no. 41180623, citing Old Monticello Cemetery, Monticello, White County, Indiana, USA; Maintained by Jack McIlrath (contributor 46933259), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/41180623
- [S5040] Wayne County NYGenWeb site, online <http://wayne.nygenweb.net/>, Fairmount Cemetery, Red Creek, Town of Wolcott, Wayne County, NY: https://wayne.nygenweb.net/cemeteries/fairmunt.html. Hereinafter cited as Wayne Co NY GenWeb.
- [S2338] Ancestry.Com Family Trees, online http://trees.ancestry.com/, Lyon.Manning.Burr FTM3_2017 - James McLean: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/109925263/person/430076615357/facts?_phsrc=EHY488&_phstart=successSource. Hereinafter cited as Ancestry.Com Family Trees.
- [S5077] 1870 Federal Census, 1870 Census NY Wayne Co Rose, Year: 1870; Census Place: Rose, Wayne, New York; Roll: M593_1113; Page: 408B; Family History Library Film: 552612
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7163&h=24274154
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7163/images/4277177_00129 - [S5078] 1880 Federal Census, 1880 Census NY Wayne Co Rose, Year: 1880; Census Place: Rose, Wayne, New York; Roll: 944; Page: 382B; Enumeration District: 187
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=6742&h=4310901
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6742/images/4243579-00468
Abel Lyon1
M, #96111, b. 16 April 1794, d. 1 March 1875
Last Edited | 6 Apr 2021 |
Abel Lyon married Pamelia (?)1
Abel Lyon was born on 16 April 1794 at Saratoga Co., New York, USA; Aged 66 in the 1860 census.1,2
Abel Lyon died on 1 March 1875 at Rose, Wayne Co., New York, USA, at age 80.2
Abel Lyon was buried after 1 March 1875 at Fair Mount Cemetery, Red Creek, Wayne Co., New York, USA; From Find A Grave:
; The fate of William2 F. McLEAN’s sixth child, James3 McClean (William2, John1) is uncertain. The source of his birth and death dates are from the family Bible of Sarah2 (ARMSTRONG) McLEAN, his grandmother.ii McLean [nd] No middle initial is given in that record. The date of birth is written clearly, and reads October 18th 1816. However, the date of death has been crossed out and changed. The crossed-out portion may read “September the 13th”. The added date is “October 8, 1852.” This segment of the Bible page is shown below.
Figure 269: Clipping from Family Bible of Sarah2 (ARMSTRONG) McLEAN Showing the Entry for James3 McClean (William2, John1)iiii McLean [nd]
[Image of original bible entry is attached.]
Identifying what happened to James3 McClean (William2, John1) may lie in solving the following puzzle involving the records of three men named James McLean who may or may not have been the same man. Here is the evidence discovered so far.
A. Who was the real James McLean?
There are two other James McLeans11 For clarity in the following dicussion, “James3 McClean (William2, John1)” refers to the son of William F. McLEAN (John1); “James McLean #1” refers to the James F. Mclean buried in Wayne County, New York; while “James McLean #2” refers to the James F. Mclean buried in White County, Indiana. for whom records have been found, either of whom might have been James3 McClean (William2, John1), though neither is a certain match. What adds to the confusion is that though the vital dates for these two other James’s are not exactly the same, there is some evidence that all three men may have been the same person.
James McLean #1:
There is a James F. McLean buried in Wayne County, New York.ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309. His grave marker read “Died Sept. 13, 1852 Aged 35 yrs. 10 ms & 21 ds.”iiii An image of the grave marker is posted on FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309. The date of death is identical to one possible interpretation of the date of birth of James3 McClean (William2, John1) in the family Bible. The date of birth calculated from the grave marker inscription is 23 October 1816, only seven days different from that given in the McLean family Bible.
Further research on this man has found a probate record in Wayne County, dated 19 January 1853, for a James F. McLean who had died intestate and who had a wife named Lydia A. who was named heir.ii[:ITAL]iiii Ancestry.com NYWills: Record seen on 3 April 2021 at https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8800&h=2841751;
There is also an 1850 census Wayne County listing for a James F. McLean with a wife listed as Lydia A. There are two children listed in in this household: a daughter, Betsy, aged 11 (i.e., born ca 1839) and a three month old son, William C. (i.e., born ca April 1850). It is possible that the James who died and was buried in 1852 was the James who died intestate with a wife named Lydia A., and also the same James F. listed in the 1850 census. No further record of the daughter, Betsy McLean, has been found.
Figure 270: Census Detail for the James F. McLean Household from the 1850 U. S. Census, Wolcott Twp., Wayne County, New York ii 1850Wolcott: p. 525-A, lines 6-12.
Line Name Age YOB11 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB22 Place of birth
8 McLEAN, James F. 32 1818 M Carpenter $800 New York
9 “ , Lydia A. 31 1819 F New York
10 “ , William C. 3/12 1850 M New York
11 “ , Betsy 11 1839 F At School New York
12 SWARTOUT, Asa P. 34 1816 M Tailor New York
Date of Census: 26 July 1850
The presence of thirty-four year old Asa Swartout (Swarthout) in the same household with James is a clue that this James F. McLean #1 could well have been James3 McClean (William2, John1). James3 grew up in Benton Twp. In the 1840 US census there were four SWARTHOUT households (carious spellings) listed for Benton Twp. and another eight households in nearby towns of Yates County. Research shows that Asa P. Swarthout was probably the son of John L./S. Swarthout who was living in Benton Twp. at the time of the 1840 census.iiii 1840Benton: p. 267, line 7. Furthermore, in this census this John L./S. Swarthout was listed as living next door to (next line) William2 F. McLEAN (John1). Asa probably grew up with James3 McClean (William2, John1) in Yates County and may even have moved to Wayne County together.
Further research found a Lydia McLean with a ten year old son, William McLean, living in the household of an Abel and Pamelia Lyon in 1860. These are evidently Lydia’s parents (as subsequently shown by the 1880 census listing). There is no record of her daughter, Betsy, in this census and Betsy, being about 21 in 1860, may have married by then or died.
Figure 271: Census Detail for the Abel Lyon Household from the 1860 U. S. Census, Red Creek Village, Wayne County, New York iiiiii 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
Line Name Age YOB33 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB44 Place of birth
12 LYON, Abel 66 1794 M No Occupation New York
13 “ , Amelia [sic] 66 1794 F New York
14 McLEAN, Lydia 42 1818 F New York
15 “ , William 10 1850 M At School New York
Date of Census: 23 October 1860
In the 1870 census Lydia McLean is still with her parents, but now William and Betsy are both missing.
Figure 272: Census Detail for the Abel Lyon Household from the 1870 U. S. Census, Town of Rose, Wayne County, New York ii 1870Rose: p. 408-B, lines 14-15.
Line Name Age YOB11 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB22 Place of birth
14 LYON, Abel 76 1794 M Retired Merchant New York
15 “ , Pamelia 75 1795 F Keeping House New York
16 McLEAN, Lydia 45 1825 F Tailoress New York
Date of Census: 13 June 1870
In the 1880 census, the widow Lydia McLean is living with a widowed Pamelia Lyon and is listed as Pamelia’s daughter. This indicates that the wife of James F. McLean who had died and was listed with him in the 1850 census, and then mentioned as his widow and heir in his 1853 probate record was Lydia A. (Lyon) McLean. No further record of the son William C. McLean has been found.
Figure 273: Census Detail for the Amelia [sic] Lyon Household from the 1880 U. S. Census, Town of Rose, Wayne County, New York iiii1880Rose: p. 392-B, lines 23-24.
Line Name Race Sex Age YOB33 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Status Occupation POB44 Place of birth
23 LYON, Amelia W F 86 1794 Widowed Retired Merchant New York
16 McLEAN, Lydia W F 62 1818 Widowed Tailoress New York
Date of Census: 25 June 1880
Neither a burial record nor any other records have been found for Lydia (Lyon) McLean in New York.
In summary, This seems to be one family of a James F. and a Lydia A. (Lyon) McClean, with two children: Betsy (who may have died or married before 1860) and William C., who may have died or moved away before 1870. The birth and death dates of this James F. are close to those given in the family Bible for James3 McClean (William2, John1).
James McLean #2:
There are graves in Indiana for a couple, James McLean and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean with a son, William Edwin McLean, recorded in the Old Monticello Cemetery in Monticello, White County, Indiana.ii[:ITAL]iiii FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William). There are grave markers for Lydia Ann and William Edwin, but none for James. The information given on FindAGrave.com is as follows:
Figure 274: Information on the James and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean and William Edwin McLean Buried in Old Monticello Cemetery, White County, Indiana i[:BOLD]viv FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
Name
Birth
Death
James McLean
1818, New York
6 May 1891, Monticello, White County, Indiana
Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean
25 December 1817
17 October 1896
William Edwin McLean
23 April 1850, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York
9 September 1927, Cook County, Illinois
This couple has not been found in any census records in Indiana in 1850, 1860, 1870 or 1880, nor has any other record been found of them in Indiana.
No grave marker was found for James McLean, though the burial was recorded.
The grave marker for Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean reads “Died Oct. 17, 1896 Aged 78y. 9m. 22d.” The birth date calculated from this inscription matches the birth date on the memorial page.
A Cook County, Illinois death recordii FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm. for William Edwin McLean confirms his birth date (23 April 1850) and birth place in “Red Creek, New York.” The years (only) of birth and death are inscribed on his grave marker.i[ITAL:]iii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180726.
In summary, this family was apparently from New York (where their son William Edwin was born in Wayne County) and at some point they apparently moved to Indiana. Nothing else is known about them.
William2 F. McLEAN (John S.1) and three of his other children, all migrated to Indiana sometime after 27 July 1850 (when he appeared in the 1850 U. S. census in Milo Twp.), and before his death on 28 January 1855 in Fountain County. With his father and siblings in Indiana, it is possible that James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) also decided to move his family to Indiana; perhaps around the same time (1850-1855), or later. Fountain County is not that far from White County where James McLean #2 was eventually buried.
Comparing the few facts known for James3 McClean (William2, John S.1), James F. McLean (#1) and James McLean (#2) does not necessarily preclude that all three are the same man. However, there are two burials, and taken on face value the existence of two different burials would seem to preclude that James F. McLean (#1) who died in New York in 1852 is the same man as James McLean (#2) who died in 1891 and was buried in Indiana.
Figure 275: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for James3 McClean (William2, John1), James F. McLean (#1) and James McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
James3 McClean (William2, John1) – from Family Bibleiiiiii McLean [nd]
18th October 1816
13 September 1852 or 8th October 1852
James F. McLean – from grave marker inscriptioni[:ITAL]viv FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
23 October 1816255]
13 September 1852, New York
James McLean – from Find A grave memorialvv FindAGrave.com Memorial #141474776.
1818, New York
6 May 1891, Monticello, White County, Indiana
B. Who was the real Lydia (Lyon) McLean?
Not only do we have three James McLeans, it seems we also have two Lydia (Lyon) McLeans, who each married a James McLean:
Figure 276: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for Lydia A. (Lyon) McLean (#1) and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
Lydia A. (Lyon) McClean (#1) – from probate, 1850 & 1860 censusesii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ca 1818/19 (from ages in 1850 and 1860 census)
unknown
Lydia Ann (Lyon) McClean (#2) – from grave markeri[:ITAL]iii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180623.
25 December 1817255]
17 October 1896255]
It is feasible that these two women are the same person. Their dates of birth aren’t that far off, allowing for the errors in ages listed that were common in census enumerations.
C. Who was the real William McLean?
Finally, we have the two sons named William to consider:
The William C. McLean11 His name appears with a middle initial (“C.”) only in the 1850 census, not in the 1860 census. who was in his father’s household in the 1850 census and with his mother and maternal grandparents in the 1860 census, and was probably born in Wayne County, New York.
The William Edwin McLean who was buried in Indiana and was born in Red Crook, Wayne County.
The names William and Edwin were common in the McClean family of Benton. James3 McClean (William2, John1) had a father named William, as well as a brother. He also had an uncle and a cousin named George Edwin, a first cousin named Edwin, and a first cousin named William Edwin. It would not have been unusual for him to choose to name a son, William Edwin.
No record – other than their burials – has been found for James (#2) and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean and their son William Edwin McLean living in White County. Indiana. William married Sue Ellen Obenchain (various spellings) in Chicago in 1890, and he died there in 1927. However, the 1880 censusiiiiii 1880Monticello: p. 286-A, lines 15-22. shows “Susie Obenchinn” living in her parents household in Monticello, White County. This opens the possibility that she and William met in Indiana first before they married in Chicago. William and his wife “Lulu E.” were living in Chicago in the 1900 censusiviv 1900Chicago34: p. 11, lines 10-14. with a son, William M. who was born in Feb 1893 in Indiana. Thus, though William Edwin and Sue Ellen were married in Chicago, it seems that they had returned to Indiana for some period (at least ca Feb 1893 in time for the birth of their child) before moving back to Chicago in time for the 1900 census.
William Edwin’s father, James McLean (#2), died in 1891 and his mother, Lydia Ann (Lyon), in 1896. William Edwin’s son was born in Indiana in 1893. Thus, one can speculate that following their June 1890 Chicago marriage, William Edwin and Sue Ellen had moved to White County to be near both their parents, and then moved back to Chicago after the deaths of James and Lydia. Sue Ellen’s own parents, Madison Lewis and Morgianna (Armour) Obenchain, still lived on in Monticello, White County, with her father dying there in 1912.vv FindAGrave.com Memorial #41515503.
The next years are confusing and the record is sparse. William Edwin McLean has not been found in the 1910 census, while his wife, Sue Ellen McLean, and their son, William, appeared in 1910 as boarders in the household of an apparently unrelated John Johnson in Biloxi, Harrison County, Mississippi.vivi 1910Biloxi: p. 1-B, lines 68-72. There is no obvious reason for their presence in Mississippi, or for the absence of William Edwin. In the 1920 census,viivii 1920Chicago: p. 4-A, lines 40-43. William Edwin, Sue Ellen and their son William M. are all back living together in Chicago (with Sue Ellen’s mother living with them).
Figure 277: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for William C. McLean (#1) and William Edwin McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
William C. McClean – from 1850 & 1860 censusesviiiviii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ca April 1850
unknown
William Edwin McClean – from death recordi[:ITAL]xix FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.
23 April 1850, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York
9 September 1927, Cook County, Illinois
D. Conclusions
The James F. McLean buried in Wayne County certainly seems to match James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) in terms of his dates of birth and death.
It is logical that with his father and siblings in Indiana, James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) would have at some point chosen to move there with his family, as well, and thus could have eventually died there.
The 1850 census and 1853 probate records tell us that those two men were the same, then James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) married a woman named Lydia A. Lyon and had children by her, one of who was named William.
The presence of Asa P. Swartout in the 1850 census, increases the likelihood that the James F. McLean in that census came from Benton Twp.
The Lydia in New York comes close in birth dates to matching the Lydia buried in Indiana.
The son of James F. and Lydia A. McLean, William C., in the 1850 census could well be the same man as the William Edwin born in Wayne County and buried in Indiana. The birthdates and birth places are the same.
Who was the James McLean #2 buried in Indiana, if James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) was the James F. McLean #1 and died in 1852?
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i McLean [nd]
ii McLean [nd]
i FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
ii An image of the grave marker is posted on FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
iii Ancestry.com NYWills: Record seen on 3 April 2021 at https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8800&h=2841751;
i 1850Wolcott: p. 525-A, lines 6-12.
ii 1840Benton: p. 267, line 7.
iii 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
i 1870Rose: p. 408-B, lines 14-15.
ii1880Rose: p. 392-B, lines 23-24.
iii FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
iv FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
i FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.
ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180726.
iii McLean [nd]
iv FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
v FindAGrave.com Memorial #141474776.
i 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180623.
iii 1880Monticello: p. 286-A, lines 15-22.
iv 1900Chicago34: p. 11, lines 10-14.
v FindAGrave.com Memorial #41515503.
vi 1910Biloxi: p. 1-B, lines 68-72.
vii 1920Chicago: p. 4-A, lines 40-43.
viii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ix FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.3,4,1,5,6,7,8,9
Abel Lyon and Pamelia (?) appeared in the census of 23 October 1860 at Red Creek Village, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 741, lines 12-15, dwelling 311, family 312
12 LYON, Abel 66 [1794] M No Occupation $1200 $700 NY
13 " , Amerlia 66 [1794] F NY
14 MCLEAN, Lydia 42 [1818] F NY
15 " , William 10 [1850] M NY Attended School.1
Abel Lyon and Pamelia (?) appeared in the census of 13 June 1870 at Rose, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 408-B, lines 14-16, dwelling 167, family 181
14 LYON, Abel 76 [1794] M W Retired Merchant $1700 $1500 NY
15 " , Pamelia 75 [1795] F W Keeping House NY
16 MCLANE, Lydia 45 [1825] F W Tailoress NY.10
Abel Lyon was born on 16 April 1794 at Saratoga Co., New York, USA; Aged 66 in the 1860 census.1,2
Abel Lyon died on 1 March 1875 at Rose, Wayne Co., New York, USA, at age 80.2
Abel Lyon was buried after 1 March 1875 at Fair Mount Cemetery, Red Creek, Wayne Co., New York, USA; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 16 Apr 1794, Saratoga County, New York, USA
DEATH 1 Mar 1875 (aged 80), Rose, Wayne County, New York, USA
Family Members
Spouse
Pamelia Lyon 1794–1885
Children
Lyman Lyon 1819–1887
BURIAL Fair Mount Cemetery, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York, USA
Maintained by: Frank K.
Originally Created by: NewYork Lady
Added: 30 Aug 2007
Find a Grave Memorial 21259057.2
DEATH 1 Mar 1875 (aged 80), Rose, Wayne County, New York, USA
Family Members
Spouse
Pamelia Lyon 1794–1885
Children
Lyman Lyon 1819–1887
BURIAL Fair Mount Cemetery, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York, USA
Maintained by: Frank K.
Originally Created by: NewYork Lady
Added: 30 Aug 2007
Find a Grave Memorial 21259057.2
; The fate of William2 F. McLEAN’s sixth child, James3 McClean (William2, John1) is uncertain. The source of his birth and death dates are from the family Bible of Sarah2 (ARMSTRONG) McLEAN, his grandmother.ii McLean [nd] No middle initial is given in that record. The date of birth is written clearly, and reads October 18th 1816. However, the date of death has been crossed out and changed. The crossed-out portion may read “September the 13th”. The added date is “October 8, 1852.” This segment of the Bible page is shown below.
Figure 269: Clipping from Family Bible of Sarah2 (ARMSTRONG) McLEAN Showing the Entry for James3 McClean (William2, John1)iiii McLean [nd]
[Image of original bible entry is attached.]
Identifying what happened to James3 McClean (William2, John1) may lie in solving the following puzzle involving the records of three men named James McLean who may or may not have been the same man. Here is the evidence discovered so far.
A. Who was the real James McLean?
There are two other James McLeans11 For clarity in the following dicussion, “James3 McClean (William2, John1)” refers to the son of William F. McLEAN (John1); “James McLean #1” refers to the James F. Mclean buried in Wayne County, New York; while “James McLean #2” refers to the James F. Mclean buried in White County, Indiana. for whom records have been found, either of whom might have been James3 McClean (William2, John1), though neither is a certain match. What adds to the confusion is that though the vital dates for these two other James’s are not exactly the same, there is some evidence that all three men may have been the same person.
James McLean #1:
There is a James F. McLean buried in Wayne County, New York.ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309. His grave marker read “Died Sept. 13, 1852 Aged 35 yrs. 10 ms & 21 ds.”iiii An image of the grave marker is posted on FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309. The date of death is identical to one possible interpretation of the date of birth of James3 McClean (William2, John1) in the family Bible. The date of birth calculated from the grave marker inscription is 23 October 1816, only seven days different from that given in the McLean family Bible.
Further research on this man has found a probate record in Wayne County, dated 19 January 1853, for a James F. McLean who had died intestate and who had a wife named Lydia A. who was named heir.ii[:ITAL]iiii Ancestry.com NYWills: Record seen on 3 April 2021 at https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8800&h=2841751;
There is also an 1850 census Wayne County listing for a James F. McLean with a wife listed as Lydia A. There are two children listed in in this household: a daughter, Betsy, aged 11 (i.e., born ca 1839) and a three month old son, William C. (i.e., born ca April 1850). It is possible that the James who died and was buried in 1852 was the James who died intestate with a wife named Lydia A., and also the same James F. listed in the 1850 census. No further record of the daughter, Betsy McLean, has been found.
Figure 270: Census Detail for the James F. McLean Household from the 1850 U. S. Census, Wolcott Twp., Wayne County, New York ii 1850Wolcott: p. 525-A, lines 6-12.
Line Name Age YOB11 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB22 Place of birth
8 McLEAN, James F. 32 1818 M Carpenter $800 New York
9 “ , Lydia A. 31 1819 F New York
10 “ , William C. 3/12 1850 M New York
11 “ , Betsy 11 1839 F At School New York
12 SWARTOUT, Asa P. 34 1816 M Tailor New York
Date of Census: 26 July 1850
The presence of thirty-four year old Asa Swartout (Swarthout) in the same household with James is a clue that this James F. McLean #1 could well have been James3 McClean (William2, John1). James3 grew up in Benton Twp. In the 1840 US census there were four SWARTHOUT households (carious spellings) listed for Benton Twp. and another eight households in nearby towns of Yates County. Research shows that Asa P. Swarthout was probably the son of John L./S. Swarthout who was living in Benton Twp. at the time of the 1840 census.iiii 1840Benton: p. 267, line 7. Furthermore, in this census this John L./S. Swarthout was listed as living next door to (next line) William2 F. McLEAN (John1). Asa probably grew up with James3 McClean (William2, John1) in Yates County and may even have moved to Wayne County together.
Further research found a Lydia McLean with a ten year old son, William McLean, living in the household of an Abel and Pamelia Lyon in 1860. These are evidently Lydia’s parents (as subsequently shown by the 1880 census listing). There is no record of her daughter, Betsy, in this census and Betsy, being about 21 in 1860, may have married by then or died.
Figure 271: Census Detail for the Abel Lyon Household from the 1860 U. S. Census, Red Creek Village, Wayne County, New York iiiiii 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
Line Name Age YOB33 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB44 Place of birth
12 LYON, Abel 66 1794 M No Occupation New York
13 “ , Amelia [sic] 66 1794 F New York
14 McLEAN, Lydia 42 1818 F New York
15 “ , William 10 1850 M At School New York
Date of Census: 23 October 1860
In the 1870 census Lydia McLean is still with her parents, but now William and Betsy are both missing.
Figure 272: Census Detail for the Abel Lyon Household from the 1870 U. S. Census, Town of Rose, Wayne County, New York ii 1870Rose: p. 408-B, lines 14-15.
Line Name Age YOB11 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB22 Place of birth
14 LYON, Abel 76 1794 M Retired Merchant New York
15 “ , Pamelia 75 1795 F Keeping House New York
16 McLEAN, Lydia 45 1825 F Tailoress New York
Date of Census: 13 June 1870
In the 1880 census, the widow Lydia McLean is living with a widowed Pamelia Lyon and is listed as Pamelia’s daughter. This indicates that the wife of James F. McLean who had died and was listed with him in the 1850 census, and then mentioned as his widow and heir in his 1853 probate record was Lydia A. (Lyon) McLean. No further record of the son William C. McLean has been found.
Figure 273: Census Detail for the Amelia [sic] Lyon Household from the 1880 U. S. Census, Town of Rose, Wayne County, New York iiii1880Rose: p. 392-B, lines 23-24.
Line Name Race Sex Age YOB33 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Status Occupation POB44 Place of birth
23 LYON, Amelia W F 86 1794 Widowed Retired Merchant New York
16 McLEAN, Lydia W F 62 1818 Widowed Tailoress New York
Date of Census: 25 June 1880
Neither a burial record nor any other records have been found for Lydia (Lyon) McLean in New York.
In summary, This seems to be one family of a James F. and a Lydia A. (Lyon) McClean, with two children: Betsy (who may have died or married before 1860) and William C., who may have died or moved away before 1870. The birth and death dates of this James F. are close to those given in the family Bible for James3 McClean (William2, John1).
James McLean #2:
There are graves in Indiana for a couple, James McLean and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean with a son, William Edwin McLean, recorded in the Old Monticello Cemetery in Monticello, White County, Indiana.ii[:ITAL]iiii FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William). There are grave markers for Lydia Ann and William Edwin, but none for James. The information given on FindAGrave.com is as follows:
Figure 274: Information on the James and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean and William Edwin McLean Buried in Old Monticello Cemetery, White County, Indiana i[:BOLD]viv FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
Name
Birth
Death
James McLean
1818, New York
6 May 1891, Monticello, White County, Indiana
Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean
25 December 1817
17 October 1896
William Edwin McLean
23 April 1850, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York
9 September 1927, Cook County, Illinois
This couple has not been found in any census records in Indiana in 1850, 1860, 1870 or 1880, nor has any other record been found of them in Indiana.
No grave marker was found for James McLean, though the burial was recorded.
The grave marker for Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean reads “Died Oct. 17, 1896 Aged 78y. 9m. 22d.” The birth date calculated from this inscription matches the birth date on the memorial page.
A Cook County, Illinois death recordii FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm. for William Edwin McLean confirms his birth date (23 April 1850) and birth place in “Red Creek, New York.” The years (only) of birth and death are inscribed on his grave marker.i[ITAL:]iii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180726.
In summary, this family was apparently from New York (where their son William Edwin was born in Wayne County) and at some point they apparently moved to Indiana. Nothing else is known about them.
William2 F. McLEAN (John S.1) and three of his other children, all migrated to Indiana sometime after 27 July 1850 (when he appeared in the 1850 U. S. census in Milo Twp.), and before his death on 28 January 1855 in Fountain County. With his father and siblings in Indiana, it is possible that James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) also decided to move his family to Indiana; perhaps around the same time (1850-1855), or later. Fountain County is not that far from White County where James McLean #2 was eventually buried.
Comparing the few facts known for James3 McClean (William2, John S.1), James F. McLean (#1) and James McLean (#2) does not necessarily preclude that all three are the same man. However, there are two burials, and taken on face value the existence of two different burials would seem to preclude that James F. McLean (#1) who died in New York in 1852 is the same man as James McLean (#2) who died in 1891 and was buried in Indiana.
Figure 275: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for James3 McClean (William2, John1), James F. McLean (#1) and James McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
James3 McClean (William2, John1) – from Family Bibleiiiiii McLean [nd]
18th October 1816
13 September 1852 or 8th October 1852
James F. McLean – from grave marker inscriptioni[:ITAL]viv FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
23 October 1816255]
13 September 1852, New York
James McLean – from Find A grave memorialvv FindAGrave.com Memorial #141474776.
1818, New York
6 May 1891, Monticello, White County, Indiana
B. Who was the real Lydia (Lyon) McLean?
Not only do we have three James McLeans, it seems we also have two Lydia (Lyon) McLeans, who each married a James McLean:
Figure 276: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for Lydia A. (Lyon) McLean (#1) and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
Lydia A. (Lyon) McClean (#1) – from probate, 1850 & 1860 censusesii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ca 1818/19 (from ages in 1850 and 1860 census)
unknown
Lydia Ann (Lyon) McClean (#2) – from grave markeri[:ITAL]iii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180623.
25 December 1817255]
17 October 1896255]
It is feasible that these two women are the same person. Their dates of birth aren’t that far off, allowing for the errors in ages listed that were common in census enumerations.
C. Who was the real William McLean?
Finally, we have the two sons named William to consider:
The William C. McLean11 His name appears with a middle initial (“C.”) only in the 1850 census, not in the 1860 census. who was in his father’s household in the 1850 census and with his mother and maternal grandparents in the 1860 census, and was probably born in Wayne County, New York.
The William Edwin McLean who was buried in Indiana and was born in Red Crook, Wayne County.
The names William and Edwin were common in the McClean family of Benton. James3 McClean (William2, John1) had a father named William, as well as a brother. He also had an uncle and a cousin named George Edwin, a first cousin named Edwin, and a first cousin named William Edwin. It would not have been unusual for him to choose to name a son, William Edwin.
No record – other than their burials – has been found for James (#2) and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean and their son William Edwin McLean living in White County. Indiana. William married Sue Ellen Obenchain (various spellings) in Chicago in 1890, and he died there in 1927. However, the 1880 censusiiiiii 1880Monticello: p. 286-A, lines 15-22. shows “Susie Obenchinn” living in her parents household in Monticello, White County. This opens the possibility that she and William met in Indiana first before they married in Chicago. William and his wife “Lulu E.” were living in Chicago in the 1900 censusiviv 1900Chicago34: p. 11, lines 10-14. with a son, William M. who was born in Feb 1893 in Indiana. Thus, though William Edwin and Sue Ellen were married in Chicago, it seems that they had returned to Indiana for some period (at least ca Feb 1893 in time for the birth of their child) before moving back to Chicago in time for the 1900 census.
William Edwin’s father, James McLean (#2), died in 1891 and his mother, Lydia Ann (Lyon), in 1896. William Edwin’s son was born in Indiana in 1893. Thus, one can speculate that following their June 1890 Chicago marriage, William Edwin and Sue Ellen had moved to White County to be near both their parents, and then moved back to Chicago after the deaths of James and Lydia. Sue Ellen’s own parents, Madison Lewis and Morgianna (Armour) Obenchain, still lived on in Monticello, White County, with her father dying there in 1912.vv FindAGrave.com Memorial #41515503.
The next years are confusing and the record is sparse. William Edwin McLean has not been found in the 1910 census, while his wife, Sue Ellen McLean, and their son, William, appeared in 1910 as boarders in the household of an apparently unrelated John Johnson in Biloxi, Harrison County, Mississippi.vivi 1910Biloxi: p. 1-B, lines 68-72. There is no obvious reason for their presence in Mississippi, or for the absence of William Edwin. In the 1920 census,viivii 1920Chicago: p. 4-A, lines 40-43. William Edwin, Sue Ellen and their son William M. are all back living together in Chicago (with Sue Ellen’s mother living with them).
Figure 277: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for William C. McLean (#1) and William Edwin McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
William C. McClean – from 1850 & 1860 censusesviiiviii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ca April 1850
unknown
William Edwin McClean – from death recordi[:ITAL]xix FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.
23 April 1850, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York
9 September 1927, Cook County, Illinois
D. Conclusions
The James F. McLean buried in Wayne County certainly seems to match James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) in terms of his dates of birth and death.
It is logical that with his father and siblings in Indiana, James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) would have at some point chosen to move there with his family, as well, and thus could have eventually died there.
The 1850 census and 1853 probate records tell us that those two men were the same, then James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) married a woman named Lydia A. Lyon and had children by her, one of who was named William.
The presence of Asa P. Swartout in the 1850 census, increases the likelihood that the James F. McLean in that census came from Benton Twp.
The Lydia in New York comes close in birth dates to matching the Lydia buried in Indiana.
The son of James F. and Lydia A. McLean, William C., in the 1850 census could well be the same man as the William Edwin born in Wayne County and buried in Indiana. The birthdates and birth places are the same.
Who was the James McLean #2 buried in Indiana, if James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) was the James F. McLean #1 and died in 1852?
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i McLean [nd]
ii McLean [nd]
i FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
ii An image of the grave marker is posted on FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
iii Ancestry.com NYWills: Record seen on 3 April 2021 at https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8800&h=2841751;
i 1850Wolcott: p. 525-A, lines 6-12.
ii 1840Benton: p. 267, line 7.
iii 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
i 1870Rose: p. 408-B, lines 14-15.
ii1880Rose: p. 392-B, lines 23-24.
iii FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
iv FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
i FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.
ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180726.
iii McLean [nd]
iv FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
v FindAGrave.com Memorial #141474776.
i 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180623.
iii 1880Monticello: p. 286-A, lines 15-22.
iv 1900Chicago34: p. 11, lines 10-14.
v FindAGrave.com Memorial #41515503.
vi 1910Biloxi: p. 1-B, lines 68-72.
vii 1920Chicago: p. 4-A, lines 40-43.
viii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ix FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.3,4,1,5,6,7,8,9
Abel Lyon and Pamelia (?) appeared in the census of 23 October 1860 at Red Creek Village, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 741, lines 12-15, dwelling 311, family 312
12 LYON, Abel 66 [1794] M No Occupation $1200 $700 NY
13 " , Amerlia 66 [1794] F NY
14 MCLEAN, Lydia 42 [1818] F NY
15 " , William 10 [1850] M NY Attended School.1
Abel Lyon and Pamelia (?) appeared in the census of 13 June 1870 at Rose, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 408-B, lines 14-16, dwelling 167, family 181
14 LYON, Abel 76 [1794] M W Retired Merchant $1700 $1500 NY
15 " , Pamelia 75 [1795] F W Keeping House NY
16 MCLANE, Lydia 45 [1825] F W Tailoress NY.10
Family | Pamelia (?) b. 17 Jun 1794, d. 24 Jan 1885 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S5076] 1860 Federal Census, 1860 Census NY Wayne Co Red Creek, Year: 1860; Census Place: Red Creek, Wayne, New York; Page: 741; Family History Library Film: 803877
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7667&h=49010758
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7667/images/4237104_00093 - [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 03 April 2021), memorial page for Abel Lyon (16 Apr 1794–1 Mar 1875), Find a Grave Memorial no. 21259057, citing Fair Mount Cemetery, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York, USA; Maintained by Frank K. (contributor 46941322), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/21259057. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 26 March 2021), memorial page for James F McLean (1816–13 Sep 1852), Find a Grave Memorial no. 21259309, citing Fair Mount Cemetery, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York, USA; Maintained by Frank K. (contributor 46941322), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/21259309
- [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 4 April 2021; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
- [S5045] 1850 Federal Census, 1850 Census NY Wayne Co Wolcott, Year: 1850; Census Place: Wolcott, Wayne, New York; Roll: 613; Page: 525a
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8054&h=8812162
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8054/images/4181067_00459 - [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 03 April 2021), memorial page for James McLean (1818–6 May 1891), Find a Grave Memorial no. 141474776, citing Old Monticello Cemetery, Monticello, White County, Indiana, USA; Maintained by Jack McIlrath (contributor 46933259), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/141474776
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 03 April 2021), memorial page for Lydia Ann Lyon McLean (25 Dec 1817–17 Oct 1896), Find a Grave Memorial no. 41180623, citing Old Monticello Cemetery, Monticello, White County, Indiana, USA; Maintained by Jack McIlrath (contributor 46933259), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/41180623
- [S5040] Wayne County NYGenWeb site, online <http://wayne.nygenweb.net/>, Fairmount Cemetery, Red Creek, Town of Wolcott, Wayne County, NY: https://wayne.nygenweb.net/cemeteries/fairmunt.html. Hereinafter cited as Wayne Co NY GenWeb.
- [S2338] Ancestry.Com Family Trees, online http://trees.ancestry.com/, Lyon.Manning.Burr FTM3_2017 - James McLean: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/109925263/person/430076615357/facts?_phsrc=EHY488&_phstart=successSource. Hereinafter cited as Ancestry.Com Family Trees.
- [S5077] 1870 Federal Census, 1870 Census NY Wayne Co Rose, Year: 1870; Census Place: Rose, Wayne, New York; Roll: M593_1113; Page: 408B; Family History Library Film: 552612
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7163&h=24274154
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William C. McLean1
M, #96112, b. April 1850
Father | James F. McLean1 b. c 23 Oct 1816, d. 13 Sep 1852 |
Mother | Lydia A. Lyon1 b. bt 1818 - 1819 |
Last Edited | 3 Apr 2021 |
William C. McLean was born in April 1850; Aged 3 months in 1850 census.1
; The fate of William2 F. McLEAN’s sixth child, James3 McClean (William2, John1) is uncertain. The source of his birth and death dates are from the family Bible of Sarah2 (ARMSTRONG) McLEAN, his grandmother.ii McLean [nd] No middle initial is given in that record. The date of birth is written clearly, and reads October 18th 1816. However, the date of death has been crossed out and changed. The crossed-out portion may read “September the 13th”. The added date is “October 8, 1852.” This segment of the Bible page is shown below.
Figure 269: Clipping from Family Bible of Sarah2 (ARMSTRONG) McLEAN Showing the Entry for James3 McClean (William2, John1)iiii McLean [nd]
[Image of original bible entry is attached.]
Identifying what happened to James3 McClean (William2, John1) may lie in solving the following puzzle involving the records of three men named James McLean who may or may not have been the same man. Here is the evidence discovered so far.
A. Who was the real James McLean?
There are two other James McLeans11 For clarity in the following dicussion, “James3 McClean (William2, John1)” refers to the son of William F. McLEAN (John1); “James McLean #1” refers to the James F. Mclean buried in Wayne County, New York; while “James McLean #2” refers to the James F. Mclean buried in White County, Indiana. for whom records have been found, either of whom might have been James3 McClean (William2, John1), though neither is a certain match. What adds to the confusion is that though the vital dates for these two other James’s are not exactly the same, there is some evidence that all three men may have been the same person.
James McLean #1:
There is a James F. McLean buried in Wayne County, New York.ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309. His grave marker read “Died Sept. 13, 1852 Aged 35 yrs. 10 ms & 21 ds.”iiii An image of the grave marker is posted on FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309. The date of death is identical to one possible interpretation of the date of birth of James3 McClean (William2, John1) in the family Bible. The date of birth calculated from the grave marker inscription is 23 October 1816, only seven days different from that given in the McLean family Bible.
Further research on this man has found a probate record in Wayne County, dated 19 January 1853, for a James F. McLean who had died intestate and who had a wife named Lydia A. who was named heir.ii[:ITAL]iiii Ancestry.com NYWills: Record seen on 3 April 2021 at https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8800&h=2841751;
There is also an 1850 census Wayne County listing for a James F. McLean with a wife listed as Lydia A. There are two children listed in in this household: a daughter, Betsy, aged 11 (i.e., born ca 1839) and a three month old son, William C. (i.e., born ca April 1850). It is possible that the James who died and was buried in 1852 was the James who died intestate with a wife named Lydia A., and also the same James F. listed in the 1850 census. No further record of the daughter, Betsy McLean, has been found.
Figure 270: Census Detail for the James F. McLean Household from the 1850 U. S. Census, Wolcott Twp., Wayne County, New York ii 1850Wolcott: p. 525-A, lines 6-12.
Line Name Age YOB11 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB22 Place of birth
8 McLEAN, James F. 32 1818 M Carpenter $800 New York
9 “ , Lydia A. 31 1819 F New York
10 “ , William C. 3/12 1850 M New York
11 “ , Betsy 11 1839 F At School New York
12 SWARTOUT, Asa P. 34 1816 M Tailor New York
Date of Census: 26 July 1850
The presence of thirty-four year old Asa Swartout (Swarthout) in the same household with James is a clue that this James F. McLean #1 could well have been James3 McClean (William2, John1). James3 grew up in Benton Twp. In the 1840 US census there were four SWARTHOUT households (carious spellings) listed for Benton Twp. and another eight households in nearby towns of Yates County. Research shows that Asa P. Swarthout was probably the son of John L./S. Swarthout who was living in Benton Twp. at the time of the 1840 census.iiii 1840Benton: p. 267, line 7. Furthermore, in this census this John L./S. Swarthout was listed as living next door to (next line) William2 F. McLEAN (John1). Asa probably grew up with James3 McClean (William2, John1) in Yates County and may even have moved to Wayne County together.
Further research found a Lydia McLean with a ten year old son, William McLean, living in the household of an Abel and Pamelia Lyon in 1860. These are evidently Lydia’s parents (as subsequently shown by the 1880 census listing). There is no record of her daughter, Betsy, in this census and Betsy, being about 21 in 1860, may have married by then or died.
Figure 271: Census Detail for the Abel Lyon Household from the 1860 U. S. Census, Red Creek Village, Wayne County, New York iiiiii 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
Line Name Age YOB33 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB44 Place of birth
12 LYON, Abel 66 1794 M No Occupation New York
13 “ , Amelia [sic] 66 1794 F New York
14 McLEAN, Lydia 42 1818 F New York
15 “ , William 10 1850 M At School New York
Date of Census: 23 October 1860
In the 1870 census Lydia McLean is still with her parents, but now William and Betsy are both missing.
Figure 272: Census Detail for the Abel Lyon Household from the 1870 U. S. Census, Town of Rose, Wayne County, New York ii 1870Rose: p. 408-B, lines 14-15.
Line Name Age YOB11 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB22 Place of birth
14 LYON, Abel 76 1794 M Retired Merchant New York
15 “ , Pamelia 75 1795 F Keeping House New York
16 McLEAN, Lydia 45 1825 F Tailoress New York
Date of Census: 13 June 1870
In the 1880 census, the widow Lydia McLean is living with a widowed Pamelia Lyon and is listed as Pamelia’s daughter. This indicates that the wife of James F. McLean who had died and was listed with him in the 1850 census, and then mentioned as his widow and heir in his 1853 probate record was Lydia A. (Lyon) McLean. No further record of the son William C. McLean has been found.
Figure 273: Census Detail for the Amelia [sic] Lyon Household from the 1880 U. S. Census, Town of Rose, Wayne County, New York iiii1880Rose: p. 392-B, lines 23-24.
Line Name Race Sex Age YOB33 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Status Occupation POB44 Place of birth
23 LYON, Amelia W F 86 1794 Widowed Retired Merchant New York
16 McLEAN, Lydia W F 62 1818 Widowed Tailoress New York
Date of Census: 25 June 1880
Neither a burial record nor any other records have been found for Lydia (Lyon) McLean in New York.
In summary, This seems to be one family of a James F. and a Lydia A. (Lyon) McClean, with two children: Betsy (who may have died or married before 1860) and William C., who may have died or moved away before 1870. The birth and death dates of this James F. are close to those given in the family Bible for James3 McClean (William2, John1).
James McLean #2:
There are graves in Indiana for a couple, James McLean and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean with a son, William Edwin McLean, recorded in the Old Monticello Cemetery in Monticello, White County, Indiana.ii[:ITAL]iiii FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William). There are grave markers for Lydia Ann and William Edwin, but none for James. The information given on FindAGrave.com is as follows:
Figure 274: Information on the James and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean and William Edwin McLean Buried in Old Monticello Cemetery, White County, Indiana i[:BOLD]viv FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
Name
Birth
Death
James McLean
1818, New York
6 May 1891, Monticello, White County, Indiana
Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean
25 December 1817
17 October 1896
William Edwin McLean
23 April 1850, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York
9 September 1927, Cook County, Illinois
This couple has not been found in any census records in Indiana in 1850, 1860, 1870 or 1880, nor has any other record been found of them in Indiana.
No grave marker was found for James McLean, though the burial was recorded.
The grave marker for Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean reads “Died Oct. 17, 1896 Aged 78y. 9m. 22d.” The birth date calculated from this inscription matches the birth date on the memorial page.
A Cook County, Illinois death recordii FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm. for William Edwin McLean confirms his birth date (23 April 1850) and birth place in “Red Creek, New York.” The years (only) of birth and death are inscribed on his grave marker.i[ITAL:]iii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180726.
In summary, this family was apparently from New York (where their son William Edwin was born in Wayne County) and at some point they apparently moved to Indiana. Nothing else is known about them.
William2 F. McLEAN (John S.1) and three of his other children, all migrated to Indiana sometime after 27 July 1850 (when he appeared in the 1850 U. S. census in Milo Twp.), and before his death on 28 January 1855 in Fountain County. With his father and siblings in Indiana, it is possible that James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) also decided to move his family to Indiana; perhaps around the same time (1850-1855), or later. Fountain County is not that far from White County where James McLean #2 was eventually buried.
Comparing the few facts known for James3 McClean (William2, John S.1), James F. McLean (#1) and James McLean (#2) does not necessarily preclude that all three are the same man. However, there are two burials, and taken on face value the existence of two different burials would seem to preclude that James F. McLean (#1) who died in New York in 1852 is the same man as James McLean (#2) who died in 1891 and was buried in Indiana.
Figure 275: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for James3 McClean (William2, John1), James F. McLean (#1) and James McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
James3 McClean (William2, John1) – from Family Bibleiiiiii McLean [nd]
18th October 1816
13 September 1852 or 8th October 1852
James F. McLean – from grave marker inscriptioni[:ITAL]viv FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
23 October 1816255]
13 September 1852, New York
James McLean – from Find A grave memorialvv FindAGrave.com Memorial #141474776.
1818, New York
6 May 1891, Monticello, White County, Indiana
B. Who was the real Lydia (Lyon) McLean?
Not only do we have three James McLeans, it seems we also have two Lydia (Lyon) McLeans, who each married a James McLean:
Figure 276: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for Lydia A. (Lyon) McLean (#1) and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
Lydia A. (Lyon) McClean (#1) – from probate, 1850 & 1860 censusesii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ca 1818/19 (from ages in 1850 and 1860 census)
unknown
Lydia Ann (Lyon) McClean (#2) – from grave markeri[:ITAL]iii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180623.
25 December 1817255]
17 October 1896255]
It is feasible that these two women are the same person. Their dates of birth aren’t that far off, allowing for the errors in ages listed that were common in census enumerations.
C. Who was the real William McLean?
Finally, we have the two sons named William to consider:
The William C. McLean11 His name appears with a middle initial (“C.”) only in the 1850 census, not in the 1860 census. who was in his father’s household in the 1850 census and with his mother and maternal grandparents in the 1860 census, and was probably born in Wayne County, New York.
The William Edwin McLean who was buried in Indiana and was born in Red Crook, Wayne County.
The names William and Edwin were common in the McClean family of Benton. James3 McClean (William2, John1) had a father named William, as well as a brother. He also had an uncle and a cousin named George Edwin, a first cousin named Edwin, and a first cousin named William Edwin. It would not have been unusual for him to choose to name a son, William Edwin.
No record – other than their burials – has been found for James (#2) and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean and their son William Edwin McLean living in White County. Indiana. William married Sue Ellen Obenchain (various spellings) in Chicago in 1890, and he died there in 1927. However, the 1880 censusiiiiii 1880Monticello: p. 286-A, lines 15-22. shows “Susie Obenchinn” living in her parents household in Monticello, White County. This opens the possibility that she and William met in Indiana first before they married in Chicago. William and his wife “Lulu E.” were living in Chicago in the 1900 censusiviv 1900Chicago34: p. 11, lines 10-14. with a son, William M. who was born in Feb 1893 in Indiana. Thus, though William Edwin and Sue Ellen were married in Chicago, it seems that they had returned to Indiana for some period (at least ca Feb 1893 in time for the birth of their child) before moving back to Chicago in time for the 1900 census.
William Edwin’s father, James McLean (#2), died in 1891 and his mother, Lydia Ann (Lyon), in 1896. William Edwin’s son was born in Indiana in 1893. Thus, one can speculate that following their June 1890 Chicago marriage, William Edwin and Sue Ellen had moved to White County to be near both their parents, and then moved back to Chicago after the deaths of James and Lydia. Sue Ellen’s own parents, Madison Lewis and Morgianna (Armour) Obenchain, still lived on in Monticello, White County, with her father dying there in 1912.vv FindAGrave.com Memorial #41515503.
The next years are confusing and the record is sparse. William Edwin McLean has not been found in the 1910 census, while his wife, Sue Ellen McLean, and their son, William, appeared in 1910 as boarders in the household of an apparently unrelated John Johnson in Biloxi, Harrison County, Mississippi.vivi 1910Biloxi: p. 1-B, lines 68-72. There is no obvious reason for their presence in Mississippi, or for the absence of William Edwin. In the 1920 census,viivii 1920Chicago: p. 4-A, lines 40-43. William Edwin, Sue Ellen and their son William M. are all back living together in Chicago (with Sue Ellen’s mother living with them).
Figure 277: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for William C. McLean (#1) and William Edwin McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
William C. McClean – from 1850 & 1860 censusesviiiviii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ca April 1850
unknown
William Edwin McClean – from death recordi[:ITAL]xix FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.
23 April 1850, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York
9 September 1927, Cook County, Illinois
D. Conclusions
The James F. McLean buried in Wayne County certainly seems to match James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) in terms of his dates of birth and death.
It is logical that with his father and siblings in Indiana, James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) would have at some point chosen to move there with his family, as well, and thus could have eventually died there.
The 1850 census and 1853 probate records tell us that those two men were the same, then James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) married a woman named Lydia A. Lyon and had children by her, one of who was named William.
The presence of Asa P. Swartout in the 1850 census, increases the likelihood that the James F. McLean in that census came from Benton Twp.
The Lydia in New York comes close in birth dates to matching the Lydia buried in Indiana.
The son of James F. and Lydia A. McLean, William C., in the 1850 census could well be the same man as the William Edwin born in Wayne County and buried in Indiana. The birthdates and birth places are the same.
Who was the James McLean #2 buried in Indiana, if James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) was the James F. McLean #1 and died in 1852?
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i McLean [nd]
ii McLean [nd]
i FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
ii An image of the grave marker is posted on FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
iii Ancestry.com NYWills: Record seen on 3 April 2021 at https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8800&h=2841751;
i 1850Wolcott: p. 525-A, lines 6-12.
ii 1840Benton: p. 267, line 7.
iii 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
i 1870Rose: p. 408-B, lines 14-15.
ii1880Rose: p. 392-B, lines 23-24.
iii FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
iv FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
i FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.
ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180726.
iii McLean [nd]
iv FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
v FindAGrave.com Memorial #141474776.
i 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180623.
iii 1880Monticello: p. 286-A, lines 15-22.
iv 1900Chicago34: p. 11, lines 10-14.
v FindAGrave.com Memorial #41515503.
vi 1910Biloxi: p. 1-B, lines 68-72.
vii 1920Chicago: p. 4-A, lines 40-43.
viii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ix FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.2,3,4,1,5,6,7,8
William C. McLean was listed as a resident in James F. McLean and Lydia A. Lyon's household in the census report on 26 July 1850 at Wolcott, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 525-A, lines 6-12, dwelling 192, family 192
8 MCLEAN, James 32 [1818] M Tailor $800 NY
9 " , Lydia A. 31 [1819] F NY
10 " , William C. 3/12 [Apr 1850] M NY
11 " , Betsy 11 [1839] F NY Attended School
12 SWARTOUT, Asa P. 34 [1816] M Tailor NY.1
William C. McLean was listed as a resident in Abel Lyon and Pamelia (?)'s household in the census report on 23 October 1860 at Red Creek Village, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 741, lines 12-15, dwelling 311, family 312
12 LYON, Abel 66 [1794] M No Occupation $1200 $700 NY
13 " , Amerlia 66 [1794] F NY
14 MCLEAN, Lydia 42 [1818] F NY
15 " , William 10 [1850] M NY Attended School.4
; The fate of William2 F. McLEAN’s sixth child, James3 McClean (William2, John1) is uncertain. The source of his birth and death dates are from the family Bible of Sarah2 (ARMSTRONG) McLEAN, his grandmother.ii McLean [nd] No middle initial is given in that record. The date of birth is written clearly, and reads October 18th 1816. However, the date of death has been crossed out and changed. The crossed-out portion may read “September the 13th”. The added date is “October 8, 1852.” This segment of the Bible page is shown below.
Figure 269: Clipping from Family Bible of Sarah2 (ARMSTRONG) McLEAN Showing the Entry for James3 McClean (William2, John1)iiii McLean [nd]
[Image of original bible entry is attached.]
Identifying what happened to James3 McClean (William2, John1) may lie in solving the following puzzle involving the records of three men named James McLean who may or may not have been the same man. Here is the evidence discovered so far.
A. Who was the real James McLean?
There are two other James McLeans11 For clarity in the following dicussion, “James3 McClean (William2, John1)” refers to the son of William F. McLEAN (John1); “James McLean #1” refers to the James F. Mclean buried in Wayne County, New York; while “James McLean #2” refers to the James F. Mclean buried in White County, Indiana. for whom records have been found, either of whom might have been James3 McClean (William2, John1), though neither is a certain match. What adds to the confusion is that though the vital dates for these two other James’s are not exactly the same, there is some evidence that all three men may have been the same person.
James McLean #1:
There is a James F. McLean buried in Wayne County, New York.ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309. His grave marker read “Died Sept. 13, 1852 Aged 35 yrs. 10 ms & 21 ds.”iiii An image of the grave marker is posted on FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309. The date of death is identical to one possible interpretation of the date of birth of James3 McClean (William2, John1) in the family Bible. The date of birth calculated from the grave marker inscription is 23 October 1816, only seven days different from that given in the McLean family Bible.
Further research on this man has found a probate record in Wayne County, dated 19 January 1853, for a James F. McLean who had died intestate and who had a wife named Lydia A. who was named heir.ii[:ITAL]iiii Ancestry.com NYWills: Record seen on 3 April 2021 at https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8800&h=2841751;
There is also an 1850 census Wayne County listing for a James F. McLean with a wife listed as Lydia A. There are two children listed in in this household: a daughter, Betsy, aged 11 (i.e., born ca 1839) and a three month old son, William C. (i.e., born ca April 1850). It is possible that the James who died and was buried in 1852 was the James who died intestate with a wife named Lydia A., and also the same James F. listed in the 1850 census. No further record of the daughter, Betsy McLean, has been found.
Figure 270: Census Detail for the James F. McLean Household from the 1850 U. S. Census, Wolcott Twp., Wayne County, New York ii 1850Wolcott: p. 525-A, lines 6-12.
Line Name Age YOB11 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB22 Place of birth
8 McLEAN, James F. 32 1818 M Carpenter $800 New York
9 “ , Lydia A. 31 1819 F New York
10 “ , William C. 3/12 1850 M New York
11 “ , Betsy 11 1839 F At School New York
12 SWARTOUT, Asa P. 34 1816 M Tailor New York
Date of Census: 26 July 1850
The presence of thirty-four year old Asa Swartout (Swarthout) in the same household with James is a clue that this James F. McLean #1 could well have been James3 McClean (William2, John1). James3 grew up in Benton Twp. In the 1840 US census there were four SWARTHOUT households (carious spellings) listed for Benton Twp. and another eight households in nearby towns of Yates County. Research shows that Asa P. Swarthout was probably the son of John L./S. Swarthout who was living in Benton Twp. at the time of the 1840 census.iiii 1840Benton: p. 267, line 7. Furthermore, in this census this John L./S. Swarthout was listed as living next door to (next line) William2 F. McLEAN (John1). Asa probably grew up with James3 McClean (William2, John1) in Yates County and may even have moved to Wayne County together.
Further research found a Lydia McLean with a ten year old son, William McLean, living in the household of an Abel and Pamelia Lyon in 1860. These are evidently Lydia’s parents (as subsequently shown by the 1880 census listing). There is no record of her daughter, Betsy, in this census and Betsy, being about 21 in 1860, may have married by then or died.
Figure 271: Census Detail for the Abel Lyon Household from the 1860 U. S. Census, Red Creek Village, Wayne County, New York iiiiii 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
Line Name Age YOB33 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB44 Place of birth
12 LYON, Abel 66 1794 M No Occupation New York
13 “ , Amelia [sic] 66 1794 F New York
14 McLEAN, Lydia 42 1818 F New York
15 “ , William 10 1850 M At School New York
Date of Census: 23 October 1860
In the 1870 census Lydia McLean is still with her parents, but now William and Betsy are both missing.
Figure 272: Census Detail for the Abel Lyon Household from the 1870 U. S. Census, Town of Rose, Wayne County, New York ii 1870Rose: p. 408-B, lines 14-15.
Line Name Age YOB11 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Sex Occupation POB22 Place of birth
14 LYON, Abel 76 1794 M Retired Merchant New York
15 “ , Pamelia 75 1795 F Keeping House New York
16 McLEAN, Lydia 45 1825 F Tailoress New York
Date of Census: 13 June 1870
In the 1880 census, the widow Lydia McLean is living with a widowed Pamelia Lyon and is listed as Pamelia’s daughter. This indicates that the wife of James F. McLean who had died and was listed with him in the 1850 census, and then mentioned as his widow and heir in his 1853 probate record was Lydia A. (Lyon) McLean. No further record of the son William C. McLean has been found.
Figure 273: Census Detail for the Amelia [sic] Lyon Household from the 1880 U. S. Census, Town of Rose, Wayne County, New York iiii1880Rose: p. 392-B, lines 23-24.
Line Name Race Sex Age YOB33 Estimated year of birth based on recorded age Status Occupation POB44 Place of birth
23 LYON, Amelia W F 86 1794 Widowed Retired Merchant New York
16 McLEAN, Lydia W F 62 1818 Widowed Tailoress New York
Date of Census: 25 June 1880
Neither a burial record nor any other records have been found for Lydia (Lyon) McLean in New York.
In summary, This seems to be one family of a James F. and a Lydia A. (Lyon) McClean, with two children: Betsy (who may have died or married before 1860) and William C., who may have died or moved away before 1870. The birth and death dates of this James F. are close to those given in the family Bible for James3 McClean (William2, John1).
James McLean #2:
There are graves in Indiana for a couple, James McLean and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean with a son, William Edwin McLean, recorded in the Old Monticello Cemetery in Monticello, White County, Indiana.ii[:ITAL]iiii FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William). There are grave markers for Lydia Ann and William Edwin, but none for James. The information given on FindAGrave.com is as follows:
Figure 274: Information on the James and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean and William Edwin McLean Buried in Old Monticello Cemetery, White County, Indiana i[:BOLD]viv FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
Name
Birth
Death
James McLean
1818, New York
6 May 1891, Monticello, White County, Indiana
Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean
25 December 1817
17 October 1896
William Edwin McLean
23 April 1850, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York
9 September 1927, Cook County, Illinois
This couple has not been found in any census records in Indiana in 1850, 1860, 1870 or 1880, nor has any other record been found of them in Indiana.
No grave marker was found for James McLean, though the burial was recorded.
The grave marker for Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean reads “Died Oct. 17, 1896 Aged 78y. 9m. 22d.” The birth date calculated from this inscription matches the birth date on the memorial page.
A Cook County, Illinois death recordii FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm. for William Edwin McLean confirms his birth date (23 April 1850) and birth place in “Red Creek, New York.” The years (only) of birth and death are inscribed on his grave marker.i[ITAL:]iii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180726.
In summary, this family was apparently from New York (where their son William Edwin was born in Wayne County) and at some point they apparently moved to Indiana. Nothing else is known about them.
William2 F. McLEAN (John S.1) and three of his other children, all migrated to Indiana sometime after 27 July 1850 (when he appeared in the 1850 U. S. census in Milo Twp.), and before his death on 28 January 1855 in Fountain County. With his father and siblings in Indiana, it is possible that James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) also decided to move his family to Indiana; perhaps around the same time (1850-1855), or later. Fountain County is not that far from White County where James McLean #2 was eventually buried.
Comparing the few facts known for James3 McClean (William2, John S.1), James F. McLean (#1) and James McLean (#2) does not necessarily preclude that all three are the same man. However, there are two burials, and taken on face value the existence of two different burials would seem to preclude that James F. McLean (#1) who died in New York in 1852 is the same man as James McLean (#2) who died in 1891 and was buried in Indiana.
Figure 275: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for James3 McClean (William2, John1), James F. McLean (#1) and James McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
James3 McClean (William2, John1) – from Family Bibleiiiiii McLean [nd]
18th October 1816
13 September 1852 or 8th October 1852
James F. McLean – from grave marker inscriptioni[:ITAL]viv FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
23 October 1816255]
13 September 1852, New York
James McLean – from Find A grave memorialvv FindAGrave.com Memorial #141474776.
1818, New York
6 May 1891, Monticello, White County, Indiana
B. Who was the real Lydia (Lyon) McLean?
Not only do we have three James McLeans, it seems we also have two Lydia (Lyon) McLeans, who each married a James McLean:
Figure 276: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for Lydia A. (Lyon) McLean (#1) and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
Lydia A. (Lyon) McClean (#1) – from probate, 1850 & 1860 censusesii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ca 1818/19 (from ages in 1850 and 1860 census)
unknown
Lydia Ann (Lyon) McClean (#2) – from grave markeri[:ITAL]iii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180623.
25 December 1817255]
17 October 1896255]
It is feasible that these two women are the same person. Their dates of birth aren’t that far off, allowing for the errors in ages listed that were common in census enumerations.
C. Who was the real William McLean?
Finally, we have the two sons named William to consider:
The William C. McLean11 His name appears with a middle initial (“C.”) only in the 1850 census, not in the 1860 census. who was in his father’s household in the 1850 census and with his mother and maternal grandparents in the 1860 census, and was probably born in Wayne County, New York.
The William Edwin McLean who was buried in Indiana and was born in Red Crook, Wayne County.
The names William and Edwin were common in the McClean family of Benton. James3 McClean (William2, John1) had a father named William, as well as a brother. He also had an uncle and a cousin named George Edwin, a first cousin named Edwin, and a first cousin named William Edwin. It would not have been unusual for him to choose to name a son, William Edwin.
No record – other than their burials – has been found for James (#2) and Lydia Ann (Lyon) McLean and their son William Edwin McLean living in White County. Indiana. William married Sue Ellen Obenchain (various spellings) in Chicago in 1890, and he died there in 1927. However, the 1880 censusiiiiii 1880Monticello: p. 286-A, lines 15-22. shows “Susie Obenchinn” living in her parents household in Monticello, White County. This opens the possibility that she and William met in Indiana first before they married in Chicago. William and his wife “Lulu E.” were living in Chicago in the 1900 censusiviv 1900Chicago34: p. 11, lines 10-14. with a son, William M. who was born in Feb 1893 in Indiana. Thus, though William Edwin and Sue Ellen were married in Chicago, it seems that they had returned to Indiana for some period (at least ca Feb 1893 in time for the birth of their child) before moving back to Chicago in time for the 1900 census.
William Edwin’s father, James McLean (#2), died in 1891 and his mother, Lydia Ann (Lyon), in 1896. William Edwin’s son was born in Indiana in 1893. Thus, one can speculate that following their June 1890 Chicago marriage, William Edwin and Sue Ellen had moved to White County to be near both their parents, and then moved back to Chicago after the deaths of James and Lydia. Sue Ellen’s own parents, Madison Lewis and Morgianna (Armour) Obenchain, still lived on in Monticello, White County, with her father dying there in 1912.vv FindAGrave.com Memorial #41515503.
The next years are confusing and the record is sparse. William Edwin McLean has not been found in the 1910 census, while his wife, Sue Ellen McLean, and their son, William, appeared in 1910 as boarders in the household of an apparently unrelated John Johnson in Biloxi, Harrison County, Mississippi.vivi 1910Biloxi: p. 1-B, lines 68-72. There is no obvious reason for their presence in Mississippi, or for the absence of William Edwin. In the 1920 census,viivii 1920Chicago: p. 4-A, lines 40-43. William Edwin, Sue Ellen and their son William M. are all back living together in Chicago (with Sue Ellen’s mother living with them).
Figure 277: Comparison of Birth and Death Information for William C. McLean (#1) and William Edwin McLean (#2)
Name
Birth
Death
William C. McClean – from 1850 & 1860 censusesviiiviii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ca April 1850
unknown
William Edwin McClean – from death recordi[:ITAL]xix FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.
23 April 1850, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York
9 September 1927, Cook County, Illinois
D. Conclusions
The James F. McLean buried in Wayne County certainly seems to match James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) in terms of his dates of birth and death.
It is logical that with his father and siblings in Indiana, James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) would have at some point chosen to move there with his family, as well, and thus could have eventually died there.
The 1850 census and 1853 probate records tell us that those two men were the same, then James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) married a woman named Lydia A. Lyon and had children by her, one of who was named William.
The presence of Asa P. Swartout in the 1850 census, increases the likelihood that the James F. McLean in that census came from Benton Twp.
The Lydia in New York comes close in birth dates to matching the Lydia buried in Indiana.
The son of James F. and Lydia A. McLean, William C., in the 1850 census could well be the same man as the William Edwin born in Wayne County and buried in Indiana. The birthdates and birth places are the same.
Who was the James McLean #2 buried in Indiana, if James3 McClean (William2, John S.1) was the James F. McLean #1 and died in 1852?
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i McLean [nd]
ii McLean [nd]
i FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
ii An image of the grave marker is posted on FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
iii Ancestry.com NYWills: Record seen on 3 April 2021 at https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8800&h=2841751;
i 1850Wolcott: p. 525-A, lines 6-12.
ii 1840Benton: p. 267, line 7.
iii 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
i 1870Rose: p. 408-B, lines 14-15.
ii1880Rose: p. 392-B, lines 23-24.
iii FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
iv FindAGrave.com Memorials #141474776 (James), #41180623 (Lydia), and #41180726 (William).
i FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.
ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180726.
iii McLean [nd]
iv FindAGrave.com Memorial #21259309.
v FindAGrave.com Memorial #141474776.
i 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ii FindAGrave.com Memorial #41180623.
iii 1880Monticello: p. 286-A, lines 15-22.
iv 1900Chicago34: p. 11, lines 10-14.
v FindAGrave.com Memorial #41515503.
vi 1910Biloxi: p. 1-B, lines 68-72.
vii 1920Chicago: p. 4-A, lines 40-43.
viii 1850Wolcott: p. 613, lines 6-12; 1860RedCreek: p. 741, lines 12-15.
ix FamilySearch.org: "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL45-YBB1 : 18 March 2018), William Edwin Mc Lean, 09 Sep 1927; citing Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.2,3,4,1,5,6,7,8
William C. McLean was listed as a resident in James F. McLean and Lydia A. Lyon's household in the census report on 26 July 1850 at Wolcott, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 525-A, lines 6-12, dwelling 192, family 192
8 MCLEAN, James 32 [1818] M Tailor $800 NY
9 " , Lydia A. 31 [1819] F NY
10 " , William C. 3/12 [Apr 1850] M NY
11 " , Betsy 11 [1839] F NY Attended School
12 SWARTOUT, Asa P. 34 [1816] M Tailor NY.1
William C. McLean was listed as a resident in Abel Lyon and Pamelia (?)'s household in the census report on 23 October 1860 at Red Creek Village, Wayne Co., New York, USA; p. 741, lines 12-15, dwelling 311, family 312
12 LYON, Abel 66 [1794] M No Occupation $1200 $700 NY
13 " , Amerlia 66 [1794] F NY
14 MCLEAN, Lydia 42 [1818] F NY
15 " , William 10 [1850] M NY Attended School.4
Citations
- [S5045] 1850 Federal Census, 1850 Census NY Wayne Co Wolcott, Year: 1850; Census Place: Wolcott, Wayne, New York; Roll: 613; Page: 525a
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8054&h=8812162
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8054/images/4181067_00459 - [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 26 March 2021), memorial page for James F McLean (1816–13 Sep 1852), Find a Grave Memorial no. 21259309, citing Fair Mount Cemetery, Red Creek, Wayne County, New York, USA; Maintained by Frank K. (contributor 46941322), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/21259309. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 4 April 2021; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
- [S5076] 1860 Federal Census, 1860 Census NY Wayne Co Red Creek, Year: 1860; Census Place: Red Creek, Wayne, New York; Page: 741; Family History Library Film: 803877
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7667&h=49010758
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7667/images/4237104_00093 - [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 03 April 2021), memorial page for James McLean (1818–6 May 1891), Find a Grave Memorial no. 141474776, citing Old Monticello Cemetery, Monticello, White County, Indiana, USA; Maintained by Jack McIlrath (contributor 46933259), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/141474776
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Adolph Roesch1
M, #96113, b. 29 May 1860, d. 1900
Last Edited | 4 Apr 2021 |
Adolph Roesch married Mary J. O'Neil
;
Her 1st husband.
Their marriage is confirmed by their son's death certificate and their daughters's marriage record.1,2,3,4 Adolph Roesch was born on 29 May 1860 at Dossenbach, Preußen, Baden, Germany (now); Ancestry.com - Baden and Hesse Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1502-1985
Source Information: Ancestry.com. Baden and Hesse Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1502-1985 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data:
Mikrofilm Sammlung. Familysearch.org
Originale: Lutherische Kirchenbücher, 1502-1985.
Ancestry.com - Germany, Select Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898
Source Information: Ancestry.com. Germany, Select Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data: Germany, Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013.5,6
Adolph Roesch was buried in 1900 at Pioneer Cemetery, Fredonia, Chautauqua Co., New York, USA; from Find A Grave:
Adolph Roesch died in 1900 at Fredonia, Chautauqua Co., New York, USA.7
;
Her 1st husband.
Their marriage is confirmed by their son's death certificate and their daughters's marriage record.1,2,3,4 Adolph Roesch was born on 29 May 1860 at Dossenbach, Preußen, Baden, Germany (now); Ancestry.com - Baden and Hesse Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1502-1985
Name Adolf Rösch
Gender männlich (Male)
Event Type Taufe (Baptism)
Birth Date 29. Mai 1860 (29 May 1860)
Baptism Date 10. Jun 1860 (10 Jun 1860)
Baptism Place Dossenbach, Preußen, Baden
Father Matthias Rösch
Mother Maria
Legitimacy Unehelich
Parish as it Appears Dossenbacher
Page number 260;261
Gender männlich (Male)
Event Type Taufe (Baptism)
Birth Date 29. Mai 1860 (29 May 1860)
Baptism Date 10. Jun 1860 (10 Jun 1860)
Baptism Place Dossenbach, Preußen, Baden
Father Matthias Rösch
Mother Maria
Legitimacy Unehelich
Parish as it Appears Dossenbacher
Page number 260;261
Source Information: Ancestry.com. Baden and Hesse Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1502-1985 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data:
Mikrofilm Sammlung. Familysearch.org
Originale: Lutherische Kirchenbücher, 1502-1985.
Ancestry.com - Germany, Select Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898
Name Adolf Roesch
Gender Male
Baptism Age 0
Birth Date 29. Mai 1860 (29 May 1860)
Baptism Date 10. Jun 1860 (10 Jun 1860)
Baptism Place Dossenbach, Baden, Germany
Residence Place Maulburg, Baden, Germany
Father Matthias Roesch
Mother Maria Gerbel
FHL Film Number 1189877
Gender Male
Baptism Age 0
Birth Date 29. Mai 1860 (29 May 1860)
Baptism Date 10. Jun 1860 (10 Jun 1860)
Baptism Place Dossenbach, Baden, Germany
Residence Place Maulburg, Baden, Germany
Father Matthias Roesch
Mother Maria Gerbel
FHL Film Number 1189877
Source Information: Ancestry.com. Germany, Select Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data: Germany, Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013.5,6
Adolph Roesch was buried in 1900 at Pioneer Cemetery, Fredonia, Chautauqua Co., New York, USA; from Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1860
DEATH 1900 (aged 39–40)
Family Members
Parents
Matthias Roesch 1831–1912
Franciska Roesch 1833–1890
BURIAL Pioneer Cemetery, Fredonia, Chautauqua County, New York, USA
Created by: Diane LM
Added: 10 Oct 2013
Find a Grave Memorial 118476263.7
DEATH 1900 (aged 39–40)
Family Members
Parents
Matthias Roesch 1831–1912
Franciska Roesch 1833–1890
BURIAL Pioneer Cemetery, Fredonia, Chautauqua County, New York, USA
Created by: Diane LM
Added: 10 Oct 2013
Find a Grave Memorial 118476263.7
Adolph Roesch died in 1900 at Fredonia, Chautauqua Co., New York, USA.7
Family | Mary J. O'Neil b. 27 Sep 1864, d. 7 Mar 1941 |
Citations
- [S2354] Ancestry.Com Web Site, online http://search.ancestry.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 04 April 2021), memorial page for Mary J O'Neil Roesch Laird (27 Sep 1864–7 Mar 1941), Find a Grave Memorial no. 136484048, citing Rose Hill Cemetery, Spartansburg, Crawford County, Pennsylvania, USA; Maintained by Ted K (contributor 46511688), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/136484048. Hereinafter cited as Ancestry.Com Web Site.
- [S2354] Ancestry.Com Web Site, online http://search.ancestry.com/, Pennsylvania (State). Death Certificates, 1906-1968
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=5164&h=6344107
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Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61377&h=1500943306
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61377/images/TH-1-16100-4927-26?usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.198129135.1318652099.1616074811-443359675.1574024807&pId=1500943306 - [S2354] Ancestry.Com Web Site, online http://search.ancestry.com/, New York, U.S., County Marriage Records, 1847-1849, 1907-1936
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61377&h=1500508151
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61377/images/TH-1-159382-123881-55?usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.198129135.1318652099.1616074811-443359675.1574024807&pId=1500508151 - [S2354] Ancestry.Com Web Site, online http://search.ancestry.com/, Baden and Hesse Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1502-1985: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61060&h=1276902
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Richard T. Foster1
M, #96114
Last Edited | 4 Apr 2021 |
Richard T. Foster married Mary J. O'Neil on 6 June 1908 at Chautauqua Co., New York, USA,
;
Her 2nd husband; probably his 2nd wife.
Ancestry.com -
Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York, U.S., County Marriage Records, 1847-1849, 1907-1936 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data: Marriage Records. New York Marriages. Various New York County Clerk offices.
She filed for Richard's Civil War pension as his widow: Ancestry.com - U.S., Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934
Source Citation: The National Archives at Washington, D.C; Washington, D.C; NAI Title: U.S., Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934; NAI Number: T288; Record Group Title: Records of the Department of Veterans Affairs, 1773-2007; Record Group Number: 15; Series Title: U.S., Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934; Series Number: T288; Roll: 159
Source Information: National Archives and Records Administration. U.S., Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000.
Original data: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. T288, 546 rolls.1,2
;
Her 2nd husband; probably his 2nd wife.
Ancestry.com -
Name Mary Roesch
Gender Female
Marriage Date 6 June 1908
Marriage Place Chautauqua, New York, USA
Spouse Dick Foster
Film Number 000988344
Gender Female
Marriage Date 6 June 1908
Marriage Place Chautauqua, New York, USA
Spouse Dick Foster
Film Number 000988344
Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York, U.S., County Marriage Records, 1847-1849, 1907-1936 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data: Marriage Records. New York Marriages. Various New York County Clerk offices.
She filed for Richard's Civil War pension as his widow: Ancestry.com - U.S., Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934
Name Mary L Foster
Gender Female
Filing Date 24 August 1911
Place Filed New York, USA
Relation to Head Widow
Spouse Richard T Foster
Roll number 159
Gender Female
Filing Date 24 August 1911
Place Filed New York, USA
Relation to Head Widow
Spouse Richard T Foster
Roll number 159
Source Citation: The National Archives at Washington, D.C; Washington, D.C; NAI Title: U.S., Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934; NAI Number: T288; Record Group Title: Records of the Department of Veterans Affairs, 1773-2007; Record Group Number: 15; Series Title: U.S., Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934; Series Number: T288; Roll: 159
Source Information: National Archives and Records Administration. U.S., Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000.
Original data: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. T288, 546 rolls.1,2
Family | Mary J. O'Neil b. 27 Sep 1864, d. 7 Mar 1941 |
Citations
- [S2354] Ancestry.Com Web Site, online http://search.ancestry.com/, U.S., Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=4654&h=15477321
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/4654/images/32959_032824-02193. Hereinafter cited as Ancestry.Com Web Site. - [S2354] Ancestry.Com Web Site, online http://search.ancestry.com/, New York, U.S., County Marriage Records, 1847-1849, 1907-1936
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61377&h=900943897
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61377/images/TH-1-16101-62592-43?usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.127801677.1318652099.1616074811-443359675.1574024807&pId=900943897
Ella Magill1
F, #96115, b. circa 1847, d. 1889
Father | Col. James P. Magill1 b. 1813, d. 2 May 1889 |
Mother | Sarah Eliza Goodrich1 b. 27 Apr 1820, d. 19 Mar 1889 |
Charts | Chart of Descendants of Alexander Armstrong, Sr Chart of Descendants of John S. McLean |
Last Edited | 24 Jun 2021 |
Ella Magill was born circa 1847 at Tioga Co., Pennsylvania, USA; Aged 3 in 1850 census; 13 in 1860; 23 in 1870; 31 in 1880.1,2,3,4
Ella Magill was buried in 1889 at North Cedar Hill Cemetery, Philadelphia, Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania, USA; From Find A Grave:
Ella Magill died in 1889 at Philadelphia, Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania, USA.5
Ella Magill was listed as a resident in Col. James P. Magill and Sarah Eliza Goodrich's household in the census report on 15 August 1850 at Wellsboro, Tioga Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 197-A, lines 14-21, dwelling 59, family 62
14 MAGILL, James P. 35 [1815] M Printer $3500 Ireland
15 " , Sarah E. 30 [1820] F PA
16 " , Ella 3 [1847] F PA
17 " , Mary E. 2 [1848] F PA
18 BUTLER, Wm. 15 [1835] M Apprentice PA
19 KIRK, James 22 [1828] M Printer NY
20 KIRK, Wm 20 [1830] M Printer NY
21 CONWAY, Mary 20 [1830] F Ireland.1
Ella Magill was listed as a resident in Col. James P. Magill and Sarah Eliza Goodrich's household in the census report on 20 June 1860 at Ward 1, Precinct 4, Philadelphia, Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 258, lines 8-12, dwellilng 601, family 686
8 MAGILL, James B. 43 [1817] M Notry Public $1250 $1250 PA
9 " , Sarah E. 40 [1820] F PA
10 " , Elllen 13 [1847] F PA
11 " , Nathan 88 [1772] M Gent PA
12 COYLE, Margaret 15 [1845] F Servant Ireland.2
Ella Magill was listed as a resident in Col. James P. Magill and Sarah Eliza Goodrich's household in the census report on 1 June 1870 at Ward 2, Distric 07, Philadelphia, Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 312-A, lines 18-20, dwelling 190, family 200
18 MCGILL, James 55 [1815] M W Notary Republic [sic] $300 PA
19 " , Sarah 40 [1830] F W Keeping House PA
20 " , Ella 23 [1847] F W at home PA.3
Ella Magill was listed as a resident in Col. James P. Magill and Sarah Eliza Goodrich's household in the census report on 3 June 1880 at 1417 Camac Stree, Philadelphia, Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 1179, lines 11-14, dwelling 87, family 101
11 MAGILL, James P. W M 64 [1816] Married Convehancer PA
12 " , Sarah E. W F 60 [1820] Wife Married Keeping house PA
13 " , Ella W F 31 [1849] Daughter Single At home PA
14 HAMILTON, Rose W F 19 [1861] Servant Single Servant Ireland.4
Ella Magill was buried in 1889 at North Cedar Hill Cemetery, Philadelphia, Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania, USA; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 1889
BURIAL North Cedar Hill Cemetery, Philadelphia, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania, USA
Created by: Crypt Tonight
Added: 8 Jul 2020
Find a Grave Memorial 212602369.5
DEATH 1889
BURIAL North Cedar Hill Cemetery, Philadelphia, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania, USA
Created by: Crypt Tonight
Added: 8 Jul 2020
Find a Grave Memorial 212602369.5
Ella Magill died in 1889 at Philadelphia, Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania, USA.5
Ella Magill was listed as a resident in Col. James P. Magill and Sarah Eliza Goodrich's household in the census report on 15 August 1850 at Wellsboro, Tioga Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 197-A, lines 14-21, dwelling 59, family 62
14 MAGILL, James P. 35 [1815] M Printer $3500 Ireland
15 " , Sarah E. 30 [1820] F PA
16 " , Ella 3 [1847] F PA
17 " , Mary E. 2 [1848] F PA
18 BUTLER, Wm. 15 [1835] M Apprentice PA
19 KIRK, James 22 [1828] M Printer NY
20 KIRK, Wm 20 [1830] M Printer NY
21 CONWAY, Mary 20 [1830] F Ireland.1
Ella Magill was listed as a resident in Col. James P. Magill and Sarah Eliza Goodrich's household in the census report on 20 June 1860 at Ward 1, Precinct 4, Philadelphia, Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 258, lines 8-12, dwellilng 601, family 686
8 MAGILL, James B. 43 [1817] M Notry Public $1250 $1250 PA
9 " , Sarah E. 40 [1820] F PA
10 " , Elllen 13 [1847] F PA
11 " , Nathan 88 [1772] M Gent PA
12 COYLE, Margaret 15 [1845] F Servant Ireland.2
Ella Magill was listed as a resident in Col. James P. Magill and Sarah Eliza Goodrich's household in the census report on 1 June 1870 at Ward 2, Distric 07, Philadelphia, Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 312-A, lines 18-20, dwelling 190, family 200
18 MCGILL, James 55 [1815] M W Notary Republic [sic] $300 PA
19 " , Sarah 40 [1830] F W Keeping House PA
20 " , Ella 23 [1847] F W at home PA.3
Ella Magill was listed as a resident in Col. James P. Magill and Sarah Eliza Goodrich's household in the census report on 3 June 1880 at 1417 Camac Stree, Philadelphia, Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 1179, lines 11-14, dwelling 87, family 101
11 MAGILL, James P. W M 64 [1816] Married Convehancer PA
12 " , Sarah E. W F 60 [1820] Wife Married Keeping house PA
13 " , Ella W F 31 [1849] Daughter Single At home PA
14 HAMILTON, Rose W F 19 [1861] Servant Single Servant Ireland.4
Citations
- [S5081] 1850 Federal Census, 1850 Census PA Tioga Co Wellsboro Twp, Year: 1850; Census Place: Wellsboro, Tioga, Pennsylvania; Roll: 830; Page: 197a
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8054&h=5389360
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8054/images/4205393_00394 - [S3567] 1860 Federal Census, 1860 Census PA Philadelphia Co Philadelphia, Year: 1860; Census Place: Philadelphia Ward 1 Precinct 4, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Page: 258; Family History Library Film: 805151
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7667&h=23029631
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7667/images/4292169_00262 - [S3491] 1870 Federal Census, 1870 Census PA Philadelphia Co Philadelphia, Year: 1870; Census Place: Philadelphia Ward 2 District 7, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Roll: M593_1388; Page: 312A; Family History Library Film: 552887
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7163&h=2831799
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7163/images/4278571_00631 - [S2573] 1880 Federal Census, 1880 Census PA Philadelphia Co Philadelphia, Year: 1880; Census Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Roll: 1179; Page: 188D; Enumeration District: 397
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=6742&h=17556
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6742/images/4244465-00572 - [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (www.findagrave.com/memorial/212602369/ella-magill: accessed 24 June 2021), memorial page for Ella Magill (unknown–1889), Find a Grave Memorial ID 212602369, citing North Cedar Hill Cemetery, Philadelphia, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania, USA; Maintained by Crypt Tonight (contributor 48494116), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/212602369. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
Mary E. Magill1
F, #96116, b. circa 1848
Father | Col. James P. Magill1 b. 1813, d. 2 May 1889 |
Mother | Sarah Eliza Goodrich1 b. 27 Apr 1820, d. 19 Mar 1889 |
Charts | Chart of Descendants of Alexander Armstrong, Sr Chart of Descendants of John S. McLean |
Last Edited | 5 Apr 2021 |
Mary E. Magill was born circa 1848 at Tioga Co., Pennsylvania, USA; Aged 2 in 1850 census.1
Mary E. Magill was listed as a resident in Col. James P. Magill and Sarah Eliza Goodrich's household in the census report on 15 August 1850 at Wellsboro, Tioga Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 197-A, lines 14-21, dwelling 59, family 62
14 MAGILL, James P. 35 [1815] M Printer $3500 Ireland
15 " , Sarah E. 30 [1820] F PA
16 " , Ella 3 [1847] F PA
17 " , Mary E. 2 [1848] F PA
18 BUTLER, Wm. 15 [1835] M Apprentice PA
19 KIRK, James 22 [1828] M Printer NY
20 KIRK, Wm 20 [1830] M Printer NY
21 CONWAY, Mary 20 [1830] F Ireland.1
Mary E. Magill was listed as a resident in Col. James P. Magill and Sarah Eliza Goodrich's household in the census report on 15 August 1850 at Wellsboro, Tioga Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 197-A, lines 14-21, dwelling 59, family 62
14 MAGILL, James P. 35 [1815] M Printer $3500 Ireland
15 " , Sarah E. 30 [1820] F PA
16 " , Ella 3 [1847] F PA
17 " , Mary E. 2 [1848] F PA
18 BUTLER, Wm. 15 [1835] M Apprentice PA
19 KIRK, James 22 [1828] M Printer NY
20 KIRK, Wm 20 [1830] M Printer NY
21 CONWAY, Mary 20 [1830] F Ireland.1
Citations
- [S5081] 1850 Federal Census, 1850 Census PA Tioga Co Wellsboro Twp, Year: 1850; Census Place: Wellsboro, Tioga, Pennsylvania; Roll: 830; Page: 197a
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8054&h=5389360
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8054/images/4205393_00394
William M. McLean1
M, #96117, b. 9 February 1893, d. 1950
Father | William Edwin McLean1 b. 23 Apr 1850, d. 9 Sep 1927 |
Mother | Sue Ellen "Lulu" Obenchain1 b. 1 Sep 1865, d. 31 Mar 1948 |
Last Edited | 8 Apr 2021 |
William M. McLean was born on 9 February 1893 at East Monticello, White Co., Indiana, USA; Aged 7 in 1900 census.1,2
William M. McLean was buried in 1950 at Old Monticello Cemetery, Monticello, White Co., Indiana, USA; From Find A Grave:
William M. McLean died in 1950.2
William M. McLean was listed as a resident in William Edwin McLean and Sue Ellen "Lulu" Obenchain's household in the census report on 9 June 1900 at Ward 34, Chicago, Cook Co., Illinois, USA; p. 11, lines 10-14, dwelling ---, family 224
NB: The two Obenshain women are sisters of William's wife Sue Ellen "Lulu". See 1880 census for Monticello, White Co., IN.1,3
William M. McLean was listed as a resident in Sue Ellen "Lulu" Obenchain's household in the census report on 19 April 1910 at Ward 1, Biloxi, Harrison Co., Mississippi, USA; p. 1-B, lines 68-72, dwelling 15, household 15
William M. McLean was listed as a resident in William Edwin McLean and Sue Ellen "Lulu" Obenchain's household in the census report on 5 January 1920 at 4821 Winthrop Ave., Ward 25, Chicago, Cook Co., Illinois, USA; p. 4-A, lines 40-43, dwelling 30 family 108
William M. McLean was buried in 1950 at Old Monticello Cemetery, Monticello, White Co., Indiana, USA; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 9 Feb 1893, East Monticello, White County, Indiana, USA
DEATH 1950 (aged 56–57)
Family Members
Parents
William Edwin McLean 1850–1927
Sue Ellen Obenchain McLean 1865–1948
BURIAL Old Monticello Cemetery, Monticello, White County, Indiana, USA
PLOT sec 3, row 22
Maintained by: Jack McIlrath
Originally Created by: v f
Added: 26 Aug 2009
Find a Grave Memorial 41180740.2
DEATH 1950 (aged 56–57)
Family Members
Parents
William Edwin McLean 1850–1927
Sue Ellen Obenchain McLean 1865–1948
BURIAL Old Monticello Cemetery, Monticello, White County, Indiana, USA
PLOT sec 3, row 22
Maintained by: Jack McIlrath
Originally Created by: v f
Added: 26 Aug 2009
Find a Grave Memorial 41180740.2
William M. McLean died in 1950.2
William M. McLean was listed as a resident in William Edwin McLean and Sue Ellen "Lulu" Obenchain's household in the census report on 9 June 1900 at Ward 34, Chicago, Cook Co., Illinois, USA; p. 11, lines 10-14, dwelling ---, family 224
10 MCLEAN, William Head W M Apr 1850 50 Married 10yrs NY NY NY Real Estate & Loans
11 " , Lulu E. Wife W F sept 1865 34 Married 10yrs 2-children-born 1-child-living OH WV MD
12 " , William M> Son W M Feb 1893 7 Single IN NY OH At School
13 OBENSHANE, Catherine Boarder W F Apr 1872 28 Single IN WV MD Stenographer
14 " , Abbie A. Boarder W F Mar 1880 20 Single IN WF MD
11 " , Lulu E. Wife W F sept 1865 34 Married 10yrs 2-children-born 1-child-living OH WV MD
12 " , William M> Son W M Feb 1893 7 Single IN NY OH At School
13 OBENSHANE, Catherine Boarder W F Apr 1872 28 Single IN WV MD Stenographer
14 " , Abbie A. Boarder W F Mar 1880 20 Single IN WF MD
NB: The two Obenshain women are sisters of William's wife Sue Ellen "Lulu". See 1880 census for Monticello, White Co., IN.1,3
William M. McLean was listed as a resident in Sue Ellen "Lulu" Obenchain's household in the census report on 19 April 1910 at Ward 1, Biloxi, Harrison Co., Mississippi, USA; p. 1-B, lines 68-72, dwelling 15, household 15
71 MCLEAN, Mrs. Sue Ellen Boarder F W 44 [1866] Married 1x 20yrs 5-children-born 1-child-living OH WF MD
72 " , William Boarder M W 17 [1893] Single IN OH OH [sic].4
72 " , William Boarder M W 17 [1893] Single IN OH OH [sic].4
William M. McLean was listed as a resident in William Edwin McLean and Sue Ellen "Lulu" Obenchain's household in the census report on 5 January 1920 at 4821 Winthrop Ave., Ward 25, Chicago, Cook Co., Illinois, USA; p. 4-A, lines 40-43, dwelling 30 family 108
40 MCLEAN, Wm. E. Head M W 69 [1851] NY NY NY Real Estate Own Account
41 " , Sue W. Wife F W 58 [1862] Married OH WV MD Assistant Buyer Retail
42 " , Wm. M. Son M W 26 [1894] Single IN NY OH None
43 OBENCHAIN, Morgianna Mother-in-law F W 85 [1835] Widowed MD VA MD.5
41 " , Sue W. Wife F W 58 [1862] Married OH WV MD Assistant Buyer Retail
42 " , Wm. M. Son M W 26 [1894] Single IN NY OH None
43 OBENCHAIN, Morgianna Mother-in-law F W 85 [1835] Widowed MD VA MD.5
Citations
- [S5016] 1900 Federal Census, 1900 Census IL Cook Co Chicago, Year: 1900; Census Place: Chicago Ward 34, Cook, Illinois; Page: 11; Enumeration District: 1077; FHL microfilm: 1240289
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7602&h=11579102
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7602/images/4113748_00059 - [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 08 April 2021), memorial page for William M McLean (9 Feb 1893–1950), Find a Grave Memorial no. 41180740, citing Old Monticello Cemetery, Monticello, White County, Indiana, USA; Maintained by Jack McIlrath (contributor 46933259), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/41180740. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S5082] 1880 Federal Census, 1880 Census IN White Co Monticello, Year: 1880; Census Place: Monticello, White, Indiana; Roll: 324; Page: 268A; Enumeration District: 180
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=6742&h=19780577
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6742/images/4240669-00119 - [S5083] 1910 Federal Census, 1910 Census MS Harrison Co Biloxi, Year: 1910; Census Place: Biloxi Ward 1, Harrison, Mississippi; Roll: T624_740; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 0033; FHL microfilm: 1374753
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7884&h=13699888
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7884/images/31111_4330323-01154 - [S5084] 1920 Federal Census, 1920 Census IL Cook Co Chicago, Year: 1920; Census Place: Chicago Ward 25, Cook (Chicago), Illinois; Roll: T625_342; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 1453
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=6061&h=109525332
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6061/images/4300493_00385
Andew Trimmer
M, #96118, d. between 15 August 1830 and 30 August 1830
Last Edited | 9 Apr 2021 |
Andew Trimmer married Margaret (?)1
Andew Trimmer died between 15 August 1830 and 30 August 1830 at Buffaloe Township, Perry Co., Pennsylvania, USA.2,1
His estate was probated on 30 August 1830 at Perry Co., Pennsylvania, USA.1
; Some family trees on Ancestry show this andrew as a son of Paul Trimmer. However, I have so far not been able to find any proof of that connection and so far none of the owners of those family trees have been able to cite a source for their attribution either. GA Vaut
Trimmer family Tree - EdieTrimmer: ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/16548656/person/1687096534/facts - Contacted 6 Apr 2021 and she responded taht she has no source
Riley Family Tree - Terry Riley: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/118776060/person/280187345688/facts - Wrote on 9 Apr 2021. No answer yet.
Lupfer family Tree - Michele Willard: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/167237401/person/132268313116/facts
shirley lewis2 Family Tree - shirley lewis: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/157712221/person/352072370217/facts
Trimmer Semones Cooper Famly Tree - Donna Cooper: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/116956378/person/260191845138/facts
Davidson Family Tre - Denise Matthews: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/116132303/person/430158003422/facts
Drumond, Lopat Family Tree - rlopat0710: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/14473285/person/392191235252/facts
Fox Family Tree - Kathleen Fox: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/72959732/person/262109788442/facts
Miles Famly Tree - Beverly Moreno: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/87724786/person/42559474604/facts
Z_Alternate Carr Famly Tree - carchristopherm: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/159158383/person/412084015403/facts
carr Family Tree - carchristopherm: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/76545226/person/160168550680/facts
Jennings Family Tree - ravenscraft17: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/68386016/person/42207459047/facts
Clark-Day Tree - Tclark0755: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/44731005/person/6352313626/facts
Vicki Keen (Young) - Vicki Keen: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/14182565/person/18011094625/facts
Marcum Family Tree - Joseph Marcum: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/169928759/person/332203761156/facts
Jonas Family Tree 0 sf49erfanatic: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/5088777/person/7035247875/facts
Scott Famly Tree - aescott629: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/15407901/person/19964705593/facts
Bev's evaluation - Christina Miles: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/115905549/person/350148509159/facts.3 He was the executor of Peter Trimmer's estate on 4 October 1790; NB: An Andrew Trimmer was named as Executor. There is no proof that this was the Andew Trimmer of Buffaloe Twp., York Co.
Ancestry.com - York County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1749-1819
Source Information: Lineages, Inc., comp.. York County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1749-1819 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000.
Original data: York County Wills. Originals housed at the York County Archives.4
; An Andrew Trimmer was in the 1830 census for Paradise Twp., York Co., PA on the same page as 4 other Trimmers (p. 318):
Line Name
2 Barnet Trimmer
4 John Trimmer
8 Andrew Trimmer
9 Peter Trimmer
24 Abraham Trimmer
On the next page (p. 319):
16 William Trimmer
In Washington Twp., York Co., PA:
(p. 288)
2 Samuel Trimmer, Jr.
(p. 289)
17 Samuel Trimmmer
In Dover Twp., York Co., PA:
(p. 299)
27 David Trimmer
(p. 300
10 William Trimmer.5,6,7
Andew Trimmer left a will on 12 August 1830 at Buffaloe Township, Perry Co., Pennsylvania, USA; NB: Andrew listed his wife and children in his will. The chilren may be listed from oldest to youngest as he refers later in the will to the last name in the list, Henry, as his youngest, and the first named, Noah, as his oldest.
Jacob Crumbler Sr. and George Arnold are named as executors.
Jacob Crumbler, Jr. and James Woods are witnesses.
Ancestry.com - Pennsylvania, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1683-1993
Source Citation: Wills, 1820-1911; Author: Perry County (Pennsylvania). Register of Wills; Probate Place: Perry, Pennsylvania
Source Information: Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1683-1993 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015.
Original data: Pennsylvania County, District and Probate Courts.1,2
Andew Trimmer died between 15 August 1830 and 30 August 1830 at Buffaloe Township, Perry Co., Pennsylvania, USA.2,1
His estate was probated on 30 August 1830 at Perry Co., Pennsylvania, USA.1
; Some family trees on Ancestry show this andrew as a son of Paul Trimmer. However, I have so far not been able to find any proof of that connection and so far none of the owners of those family trees have been able to cite a source for their attribution either. GA Vaut
Trimmer family Tree - EdieTrimmer: ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/16548656/person/1687096534/facts - Contacted 6 Apr 2021 and she responded taht she has no source
Riley Family Tree - Terry Riley: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/118776060/person/280187345688/facts - Wrote on 9 Apr 2021. No answer yet.
Lupfer family Tree - Michele Willard: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/167237401/person/132268313116/facts
shirley lewis2 Family Tree - shirley lewis: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/157712221/person/352072370217/facts
Trimmer Semones Cooper Famly Tree - Donna Cooper: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/116956378/person/260191845138/facts
Davidson Family Tre - Denise Matthews: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/116132303/person/430158003422/facts
Drumond, Lopat Family Tree - rlopat0710: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/14473285/person/392191235252/facts
Fox Family Tree - Kathleen Fox: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/72959732/person/262109788442/facts
Miles Famly Tree - Beverly Moreno: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/87724786/person/42559474604/facts
Z_Alternate Carr Famly Tree - carchristopherm: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/159158383/person/412084015403/facts
carr Family Tree - carchristopherm: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/76545226/person/160168550680/facts
Jennings Family Tree - ravenscraft17: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/68386016/person/42207459047/facts
Clark-Day Tree - Tclark0755: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/44731005/person/6352313626/facts
Vicki Keen (Young) - Vicki Keen: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/14182565/person/18011094625/facts
Marcum Family Tree - Joseph Marcum: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/169928759/person/332203761156/facts
Jonas Family Tree 0 sf49erfanatic: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/5088777/person/7035247875/facts
Scott Famly Tree - aescott629: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/15407901/person/19964705593/facts
Bev's evaluation - Christina Miles: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/115905549/person/350148509159/facts.3 He was the executor of Peter Trimmer's estate on 4 October 1790; NB: An Andrew Trimmer was named as Executor. There is no proof that this was the Andew Trimmer of Buffaloe Twp., York Co.
Ancestry.com - York County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1749-1819
Name Andrew Trimmer
Description Executor
Date 7 May 1790
Prove date 4 October 1790
Remarks
Trimmer, Peter. May 7, 1790. Executor: Andrew Trimmer. Reading Township. Legatees: Brothers and Sisters: Christiana, Mary, Sophia, Ann, Nelly, Salome, Andrew, John, David, Mathias, and William Trimmer.
Description Executor
Date 7 May 1790
Prove date 4 October 1790
Remarks
Trimmer, Peter. May 7, 1790. Executor: Andrew Trimmer. Reading Township. Legatees: Brothers and Sisters: Christiana, Mary, Sophia, Ann, Nelly, Salome, Andrew, John, David, Mathias, and William Trimmer.
Source Information: Lineages, Inc., comp.. York County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1749-1819 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000.
Original data: York County Wills. Originals housed at the York County Archives.4
; An Andrew Trimmer was in the 1830 census for Paradise Twp., York Co., PA on the same page as 4 other Trimmers (p. 318):
Line Name
2 Barnet Trimmer
4 John Trimmer
8 Andrew Trimmer
9 Peter Trimmer
24 Abraham Trimmer
On the next page (p. 319):
16 William Trimmer
In Washington Twp., York Co., PA:
(p. 288)
2 Samuel Trimmer, Jr.
(p. 289)
17 Samuel Trimmmer
In Dover Twp., York Co., PA:
(p. 299)
27 David Trimmer
(p. 300
10 William Trimmer.5,6,7
Andew Trimmer left a will on 12 August 1830 at Buffaloe Township, Perry Co., Pennsylvania, USA; NB: Andrew listed his wife and children in his will. The chilren may be listed from oldest to youngest as he refers later in the will to the last name in the list, Henry, as his youngest, and the first named, Noah, as his oldest.
Jacob Crumbler Sr. and George Arnold are named as executors.
Jacob Crumbler, Jr. and James Woods are witnesses.
Ancestry.com - Pennsylvania, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1683-1993
Name Andrew Trimmer
Probate Place Perry, Pennsylvania, USA
Inferred Death Place Pennsylvania, USA
Item Description Wills, Vol A-B, 1820-1854
Probate Place Perry, Pennsylvania, USA
Inferred Death Place Pennsylvania, USA
Item Description Wills, Vol A-B, 1820-1854
Source Citation: Wills, 1820-1911; Author: Perry County (Pennsylvania). Register of Wills; Probate Place: Perry, Pennsylvania
Source Information: Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1683-1993 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015.
Original data: Pennsylvania County, District and Probate Courts.1,2
Family | Margaret (?) |
Children |
Citations
- [S2354] Ancestry.Com Web Site, online http://search.ancestry.com/, Pennsylvania, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1683-1993
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8802&h=1649100
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8802/images/005534476_00224?ssrc=pt&treeid=167237401&personid=132173158123&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true&pId=1649100. Hereinafter cited as Ancestry.Com Web Site. - [S2354] Ancestry.Com Web Site, online http://search.ancestry.com/, Pennsylvania, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1683-1993
info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8802&h=1649355
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8802/images/005534476_00224 - [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 9 April 2021; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
- [S2354] Ancestry.Com Web Site, online http://search.ancestry.com/, York County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1749-1819: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=4899&h=8768
- [S5085] 1830 Federal Census, 1830 Census PA York Co Paradise Twp, Year: 1830; Census Place: Paradise, York, Pennsylvania; Series: M19; Roll: 160; Page: 318; Family History Library Film: 0020634
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8058&h=553407
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8058/images/4409696_00627 - [S5086] 1830 Federal Census, 1830 Census PA York Co Washington Twp, Year: 1830; Census Place: Washington, York, Pennsylvania; Series: M19; Roll: 160; Page: 288; Family History Library Film: 0020634
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8058&h=552576
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8058/images/4409696_00567 - [S5087] 1830 Federal Census, 1830 Census PA York Co Dover Twp, Year: 1830; Census Place: Dover, York, Pennsylvania; Series: M19; Roll: 160; Page: 299; Family History Library Film: 0020634
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8058&h=552909
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8058/images/4409696_00589
Leash Trimmer1
F, #96120
Father | Andew Trimmer1 d. bt 15 Aug 1830 - 30 Aug 1830 |
Mother | Margaret (?)1 |
Last Edited | 9 Apr 2021 |
Leash Trimmer married Abraham Flarie(?)1
In Andew Trimmer's will dated 12 August 1830 at Buffaloe Township, Perry Co., Pennsylvania, USA, Leash Trimmer was named as an heir; NB: Andrew listed his wife and children in his will. The chilren may be listed from oldest to youngest as he refers later in the will to the last name in the list, Henry, as his youngest, and the first named, Noah, as his oldest.
Jacob Crumbler Sr. and George Arnold are named as executors.
Jacob Crumbler, Jr. and James Woods are witnesses.
Ancestry.com - Pennsylvania, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1683-1993
Source Citation: Wills, 1820-1911; Author: Perry County (Pennsylvania). Register of Wills; Probate Place: Perry, Pennsylvania
Source Information: Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1683-1993 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015.
Original data: Pennsylvania County, District and Probate Courts.1,2
In Andew Trimmer's will dated 12 August 1830 at Buffaloe Township, Perry Co., Pennsylvania, USA, Leash Trimmer was named as an heir; NB: Andrew listed his wife and children in his will. The chilren may be listed from oldest to youngest as he refers later in the will to the last name in the list, Henry, as his youngest, and the first named, Noah, as his oldest.
Jacob Crumbler Sr. and George Arnold are named as executors.
Jacob Crumbler, Jr. and James Woods are witnesses.
Ancestry.com - Pennsylvania, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1683-1993
Name Andrew Trimmer
Probate Place Perry, Pennsylvania, USA
Inferred Death Place Pennsylvania, USA
Item Description Wills, Vol A-B, 1820-1854
Probate Place Perry, Pennsylvania, USA
Inferred Death Place Pennsylvania, USA
Item Description Wills, Vol A-B, 1820-1854
Source Citation: Wills, 1820-1911; Author: Perry County (Pennsylvania). Register of Wills; Probate Place: Perry, Pennsylvania
Source Information: Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1683-1993 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015.
Original data: Pennsylvania County, District and Probate Courts.1,2
Family | Abraham Flarie(?) |
Citations
- [S2354] Ancestry.Com Web Site, online http://search.ancestry.com/, Pennsylvania, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1683-1993
Info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8802&h=1649100
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8802/images/005534476_00224?ssrc=pt&treeid=167237401&personid=132173158123&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true&pId=1649100. Hereinafter cited as Ancestry.Com Web Site. - [S2354] Ancestry.Com Web Site, online http://search.ancestry.com/, Pennsylvania, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1683-1993
info: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8802&h=1649355
Image: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8802/images/005534476_00224