William d'Avranches of Folkstone, Kent1
M, #68821
Father | Riwallon d'Avranches1 |
Mother | Matilda de Monneville1 |
Reference | GAV30 |
Last Edited | 27 Aug 2019 |
GAV-30.
Family | |
Child |
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
Simon d'Avranches of Folkstone, Kent1
M, #68822, d. 1203
Father | William d'Avranches of Folkstone, Kent1 |
Reference | GAV29 |
Last Edited | 27 Aug 2019 |
Family | |
Child |
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
William d'Avranches of Folkstone, Kent1
M, #68823, d. 1230
Father | Simon d'Avranches of Folkstone, Kent1 d. 1203 |
Reference | GAV28 |
Last Edited | 27 Aug 2019 |
Family | |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
Maud d'Avranches1
F, #68824
Father | William d'Avranches of Folkstone, Kent1 d. 1230 |
Reference | GAV27 |
Last Edited | 1 Sep 2019 |
Maud d'Avranches married Hamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent.1
; per Ravilious: heiress of Folkestone, Kent (cf. Sanders, pp. 45-465; also R. Bevan6)
evidently 2nd wife of Hamo de Crevequer:
his heir as to Chatham was his grandson Robert[Sanders, cites CIPM i, 5635]
_____________________
re: her husband:
of Chatham, Kent
he 'did not obtain his lands until 1217 because he had fought against
King John' (Sanders p. 31 - he was charged £100 relief)5
' Hamo de Crevequer ', granted a charter to SS. Mary and Nicholas of
Leeds: " for the souls of Robert his father and Margaret, his mother,
gave to the hospital of Ss. Mary and Nicholas of Leeds, in frank
almoin, one sheave from each acre sown in his demesne of Leeds yearly
" [inspeximus dated at Westminster, 12 June 1285, in CCR 13 Edw I, II: 296, mem. 23, no. 37]
' Hamo de Crevequer ', granted a charter to SS. Mary and Nicholas of
Leeds of the land called Marsole; witnessed by " Robert de Crevequer
and Daniel de Crevequer brothers of the donor, Hamo son of the donor,
Reginald de Holt, bailiff, " and others [inspeximus dated at Westminster, 12 June 1285, in CCR 13 Edw I, II:297, mem. 23, no. 47]
Spouse: Hamo de Crevequer
Death: 12635
Father: Robert de Crevequer (-ca1216)
Mother: Margaret
Children: William (-<1263)
Agnes, m. John de Sandwich
Iseult (-<1263), m. Nicholas de Lenham
Eleanor (-1301)
Isabel (-1283.)1 GAV-27.
; per Ravilious: heiress of Folkestone, Kent (cf. Sanders, pp. 45-465; also R. Bevan6)
evidently 2nd wife of Hamo de Crevequer:
his heir as to Chatham was his grandson Robert[Sanders, cites CIPM i, 5635]
_____________________
re: her husband:
of Chatham, Kent
he 'did not obtain his lands until 1217 because he had fought against
King John' (Sanders p. 31 - he was charged £100 relief)5
' Hamo de Crevequer ', granted a charter to SS. Mary and Nicholas of
Leeds: " for the souls of Robert his father and Margaret, his mother,
gave to the hospital of Ss. Mary and Nicholas of Leeds, in frank
almoin, one sheave from each acre sown in his demesne of Leeds yearly
" [inspeximus dated at Westminster, 12 June 1285, in CCR 13 Edw I, II: 296, mem. 23, no. 37]
' Hamo de Crevequer ', granted a charter to SS. Mary and Nicholas of
Leeds of the land called Marsole; witnessed by " Robert de Crevequer
and Daniel de Crevequer brothers of the donor, Hamo son of the donor,
Reginald de Holt, bailiff, " and others [inspeximus dated at Westminster, 12 June 1285, in CCR 13 Edw I, II:297, mem. 23, no. 47]
Spouse: Hamo de Crevequer
Death: 12635
Father: Robert de Crevequer (-ca1216)
Mother: Margaret
Children: William (-<1263)
Agnes, m. John de Sandwich
Iseult (-<1263), m. Nicholas de Lenham
Eleanor (-1301)
Isabel (-1283.)1 GAV-27.
Family | Hamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent d. 1263 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Crevequer: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00638443&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
Hamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent1
M, #68825, d. 1263
Reference | GAV27 |
Last Edited | 1 Sep 2019 |
Hamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent married Maud d'Avranches, daughter of William d'Avranches of Folkstone, Kent.1
Hamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent died in 1263.1
; per Ravilious: heiress of Folkestone, Kent (cf. Sanders, pp. 45-465; also R. Bevan6)
evidently 2nd wife of Hamo de Crevequer:
his heir as to Chatham was his grandson Robert[Sanders, cites CIPM i, 5635]
_____________________
re: her husband:
of Chatham, Kent
he 'did not obtain his lands until 1217 because he had fought against
King John' (Sanders p. 31 - he was charged £100 relief)5
' Hamo de Crevequer ', granted a charter to SS. Mary and Nicholas of
Leeds: " for the souls of Robert his father and Margaret, his mother,
gave to the hospital of Ss. Mary and Nicholas of Leeds, in frank
almoin, one sheave from each acre sown in his demesne of Leeds yearly
" [inspeximus dated at Westminster, 12 June 1285, in CCR 13 Edw I, II: 296, mem. 23, no. 37]
' Hamo de Crevequer ', granted a charter to SS. Mary and Nicholas of
Leeds of the land called Marsole; witnessed by " Robert de Crevequer
and Daniel de Crevequer brothers of the donor, Hamo son of the donor,
Reginald de Holt, bailiff, " and others [inspeximus dated at Westminster, 12 June 1285, in CCR 13 Edw I, II:297, mem. 23, no. 47]
Spouse: Hamo de Crevequer
Death: 12635
Father: Robert de Crevequer (-ca1216)
Mother: Margaret
Children: William (-<1263)
Agnes, m. John de Sandwich
Iseult (-<1263), m. Nicholas de Lenham
Eleanor (-1301)
Isabel (-1283.)1 GAV-27.
Hamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent died in 1263.1
; per Ravilious: heiress of Folkestone, Kent (cf. Sanders, pp. 45-465; also R. Bevan6)
evidently 2nd wife of Hamo de Crevequer:
his heir as to Chatham was his grandson Robert[Sanders, cites CIPM i, 5635]
_____________________
re: her husband:
of Chatham, Kent
he 'did not obtain his lands until 1217 because he had fought against
King John' (Sanders p. 31 - he was charged £100 relief)5
' Hamo de Crevequer ', granted a charter to SS. Mary and Nicholas of
Leeds: " for the souls of Robert his father and Margaret, his mother,
gave to the hospital of Ss. Mary and Nicholas of Leeds, in frank
almoin, one sheave from each acre sown in his demesne of Leeds yearly
" [inspeximus dated at Westminster, 12 June 1285, in CCR 13 Edw I, II: 296, mem. 23, no. 37]
' Hamo de Crevequer ', granted a charter to SS. Mary and Nicholas of
Leeds of the land called Marsole; witnessed by " Robert de Crevequer
and Daniel de Crevequer brothers of the donor, Hamo son of the donor,
Reginald de Holt, bailiff, " and others [inspeximus dated at Westminster, 12 June 1285, in CCR 13 Edw I, II:297, mem. 23, no. 47]
Spouse: Hamo de Crevequer
Death: 12635
Father: Robert de Crevequer (-ca1216)
Mother: Margaret
Children: William (-<1263)
Agnes, m. John de Sandwich
Iseult (-<1263), m. Nicholas de Lenham
Eleanor (-1301)
Isabel (-1283.)1 GAV-27.
Family | Maud d'Avranches |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Crevequer: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00638443&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
William d'Avranches1
M, #68826, b. before 1215, d. 1236
Father | William d'Avranches of Folkstone, Kent1 d. 1230 |
Last Edited | 27 Dec 2007 |
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
William de Crevequer1
M, #68827, d. before 1263
Father | Hamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent1 d. 1263 |
Mother | Maud d'Avranches1 |
Last Edited | 27 Dec 2007 |
William de Crevequer died before 1263.1
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
Agnes de Crevequer1
F, #68828
Father | Hamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent1 d. 1263 |
Mother | Maud d'Avranches1 |
Last Edited | 27 Dec 2007 |
Family | John de Sandwich |
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
Iseult de Crevequer1
F, #68830, d. before 1263
Father | Hamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent1 d. 1263 |
Mother | Maud d'Avranches1 |
Last Edited | 27 Dec 2007 |
Family | Nicholas de Lenham |
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
Isabel de Crevequer1
F, #68832, d. 1283
Father | Hamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent1 d. 1263 |
Mother | Maud d'Avranches1 |
Last Edited | 27 Dec 2007 |
Isabel de Crevequer died in 1283.1
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
Eleanor de Crevequer1
F, #68833, d. 1301
Father | Hamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent1 d. 1263 |
Mother | Maud d'Avranches1 |
Reference | GAV26 |
Last Edited | 27 Aug 2019 |
Eleanor de Crevequer married Bertram de Criol.1
Eleanor de Crevequer died in 1301.1
; per Ravilious: coheiress of her brother William de Crevequer (Sanders, p. 45)5,6
Spouse: Bertram de Criol
Death: 12955
Children: John (dsp -1301)
Bertram (dsp -1306)
Joan (-1322.)1 GAV-26.
Eleanor de Crevequer died in 1301.1
; per Ravilious: coheiress of her brother William de Crevequer (Sanders, p. 45)5,6
Spouse: Bertram de Criol
Death: 12955
Children: John (dsp -1301)
Bertram (dsp -1306)
Joan (-1322.)1 GAV-26.
Family | Bertram de Criol d. 1295 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
Bertram de Criol1
M, #68834, d. 1295
Reference | GAV26 |
Last Edited | 27 Aug 2019 |
Bertram de Criol married Eleanor de Crevequer, daughter of Hamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent and Maud d'Avranches.1
Bertram de Criol died in 1295.1
GAV-26.
Bertram de Criol died in 1295.1
GAV-26.
Family | Eleanor de Crevequer d. 1301 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
John de Criol1
M, #68835, d. 1301
Father | Bertram de Criol1 d. 1295 |
Mother | Eleanor de Crevequer1 d. 1301 |
Last Edited | 27 Dec 2007 |
John de Criol died in 1301; dsp.1
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
Bertram de Criol1
M, #68836, d. 1306
Father | Bertram de Criol1 d. 1295 |
Mother | Eleanor de Crevequer1 d. 1301 |
Last Edited | 27 Dec 2007 |
Bertram de Criol died in 1306; dsp.1
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
Joan de Rokesley1
F, #68837, d. after 1330
Father | Sir Richard de Rokesley1 |
Mother | Joan de Criol1 d. 1322 |
Last Edited | 27 Dec 2007 |
Family | Walter de Pateshul |
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
Joan de Poynings1
F, #68839
Father | Sir Thomas de Poynings Lord Poynings1 d. 10 Oct 1339 |
Mother | Agnes de Rokesley1 d. b 22 Dec 1346 |
Last Edited | 27 Dec 2007 |
Family | Sir William Oreketot (Criketot?) |
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
Richard de Poynings1
M, #68841
Father | Sir Thomas de Poynings Lord Poynings1 d. 10 Oct 1339 |
Mother | Agnes de Rokesley1 d. b 22 Dec 1346 |
Last Edited | 27 Dec 2007 |
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
Luke de Poynings1
M, #68842
Father | Sir Thomas de Poynings Lord Poynings1 d. 10 Oct 1339 |
Mother | Agnes de Rokesley1 d. b 22 Dec 1346 |
Last Edited | 27 Dec 2007 |
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
Thomas de Poynings 2nd Lord Pynings1,2
M, #68843, d. before 25 June 1375
Father | Sir Michael de Poynings 1st Baron Poynings1,3 d. bt 7 Mar 1368 - 1369 |
Mother | Joan Rokesley1,4 d. 16 May 1369 |
Last Edited | 30 Aug 2019 |
Thomas de Poynings 2nd Lord Pynings married Blanche Mowbray, daughter of Sir John de Mowbray Knt., 3rd Lord Mowbray, Baron of Axholme and Thirsk and Joan (?) of Lancaster, before 5 June 1372
; her 3rd husband.5,6
Thomas de Poynings 2nd Lord Pynings died before 25 June 1375; Ravilious says d 1374; Richardson says d "shortly before 25 June 1375.1,6
; her 3rd husband.5,6
Thomas de Poynings 2nd Lord Pynings died before 25 June 1375; Ravilious says d 1374; Richardson says d "shortly before 25 June 1375.1,6
Family | Blanche Mowbray d. 21 Jul 1409 |
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), p. 57. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Michael Poynings, 1st Baron Poynings: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437219&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Rokesley: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00568521&tree=LEO
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Mowbray 8.ii: pp. 531.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Norfolk 7.i: p. 552.
Margaret de Poynings1
F, #68844
Father | Sir Michael de Poynings 1st Baron Poynings1 d. bt 7 Mar 1368 - 1369 |
Mother | Joan Rokesley1 d. 16 May 1369 |
Last Edited | 27 Dec 2007 |
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
Elizabeth de Poynings1
F, #68845
Father | Sir Michael de Poynings 1st Baron Poynings1 d. bt 7 Mar 1368 - 1369 |
Mother | Joan Rokesley1 d. 16 May 1369 |
Last Edited | 27 Dec 2007 |
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
Elizabeth Bardolf1
F, #68846
Father | William Bardolf 4th Lord Bardolf of Wormgay1,2 b. 21 Oct 1349, d. 29 Jan 1385/86 |
Mother | Agnes de Poynings1 d. b 13 Jun 1403 |
Last Edited | 25 May 2008 |
Elizabeth Bardolf married Robert de Scales 5th Lord Scales, son of Roger de Scales 4th Lord Scales and Joan de Northwood,
; her 1st husband.2,1
; Ravilious says: Elizabeth, m. (1) Robert, Lord Scales,
(2) Sir Henry Percy of Gainsborough.1
; her 1st husband.2,1
; Ravilious says: Elizabeth, m. (1) Robert, Lord Scales,
(2) Sir Henry Percy of Gainsborough.1
Family | Robert de Scales 5th Lord Scales b. c 1373, d. 7 Dec 1402 |
Citations
- [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), p. 56. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
Ralph II de Langetot1
M, #68848
Father | Ralph de Langetot1 |
Last Edited | 29 Dec 2007 |
Ralph II de Langetot married Cecilia (?)1
; per Smith: Rosie Bevan published a brief stemma of the Langetot family in SGM
during 2003 (see archves):
1.Ralph de Langetot fl 1086
2.Ralph II de Langetot fl 1129
+ Cecilia
3.Ralph III de Langetot b.c.1120 fl 1166 d.s.p.
3.Emma de Langetot b.c.1125 fl 1185
+ NN
+ Geoffrey FitzWilliam
4. Muriel FitzWilliam b.c. 1155
+ Alan II de Dunstanville
4.Cecilia FitzWilliam b.c.1161
+ Alard FitzWilliam
2.Miles de Langetot fl 1121
3.Miles de Langetot
2.Matilda
+ Ranulf fitz Walter
2.Alice
+ Roger de Chesney
I am curious as the the identity of the Ranulf fitz Walter who married
Matilda de Langetot. He is mentioned in:
DP, p 354.
DD, pps 541, 757.
Rosie Bevan, post to SGM dated 27 Mar 2003, Emma de Langetot and DD
corrections?
I have not seen his parentage identified. I am curious to know if his
parentage has been identified.
DP, p 449.
DD, p 523-524.
Contain entries regarding Walter fitz Alberic de Cadamo and state that
he had a son Ralph (Ranulf) but does not give any more details about
him.
Since these are both important Norfolk familes, i suppose it is
possible that the two Ranulfs are one and the same. Of course, it
could also be a simple case of "the names the same". Has anyone seen
evidence to bear on this matter.
Doug Smith.1 Ralph II de Langetot was living in 1129.1
; per Smith: Rosie Bevan published a brief stemma of the Langetot family in SGM
during 2003 (see archves):
1.Ralph de Langetot fl 1086
2.Ralph II de Langetot fl 1129
+ Cecilia
3.Ralph III de Langetot b.c.1120 fl 1166 d.s.p.
3.Emma de Langetot b.c.1125 fl 1185
+ NN
+ Geoffrey FitzWilliam
4. Muriel FitzWilliam b.c. 1155
+ Alan II de Dunstanville
4.Cecilia FitzWilliam b.c.1161
+ Alard FitzWilliam
2.Miles de Langetot fl 1121
3.Miles de Langetot
2.Matilda
+ Ranulf fitz Walter
2.Alice
+ Roger de Chesney
I am curious as the the identity of the Ranulf fitz Walter who married
Matilda de Langetot. He is mentioned in:
DP, p 354.
DD, pps 541, 757.
Rosie Bevan, post to SGM dated 27 Mar 2003, Emma de Langetot and DD
corrections?
I have not seen his parentage identified. I am curious to know if his
parentage has been identified.
DP, p 449.
DD, p 523-524.
Contain entries regarding Walter fitz Alberic de Cadamo and state that
he had a son Ralph (Ranulf) but does not give any more details about
him.
Since these are both important Norfolk familes, i suppose it is
possible that the two Ranulfs are one and the same. Of course, it
could also be a simple case of "the names the same". Has anyone seen
evidence to bear on this matter.
Doug Smith.1 Ralph II de Langetot was living in 1129.1
Family | Cecilia (?) |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S2182] Doug Smith, "Smith email 22 Sept 2007: "Ranulf fitz Walter"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 22 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 22 Sept 2007."
Cecilia (?)1
F, #68849
Last Edited | 29 Dec 2007 |
Family | Ralph II de Langetot |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S2182] Doug Smith, "Smith email 22 Sept 2007: "Ranulf fitz Walter"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 22 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 22 Sept 2007."
Ralph III de Langetot1
M, #68850, b. circa 1120
Father | Ralph II de Langetot1 |
Mother | Cecilia (?)1 |
Last Edited | 29 Dec 2007 |
Citations
- [S2182] Doug Smith, "Smith email 22 Sept 2007: "Ranulf fitz Walter"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 22 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 22 Sept 2007."