William d'Avranches of Folkstone, Kent1

M, #68821
FatherRiwallon d'Avranches1
MotherMatilda de Monneville1
ReferenceGAV30
Last Edited27 Aug 2019
     GAV-30.

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."

Simon d'Avranches of Folkstone, Kent1

M, #68822, d. 1203
FatherWilliam d'Avranches of Folkstone, Kent1
ReferenceGAV29
Last Edited27 Aug 2019
     Simon d'Avranches of Folkstone, Kent died in 1203.1
     GAV-29.

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."

William d'Avranches of Folkstone, Kent1

M, #68823, d. 1230
FatherSimon d'Avranches of Folkstone, Kent1 d. 1203
ReferenceGAV28
Last Edited27 Aug 2019
     William d'Avranches of Folkstone, Kent died in 1230.1
     GAV-28.

Family

Children

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."

Maud d'Avranches1

F, #68824
FatherWilliam d'Avranches of Folkstone, Kent1 d. 1230
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited1 Sep 2019
     Maud d'Avranches married Hamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent.1
     ; per Ravilious: heiress of Folkestone, Kent (cf. Sanders, pp. 45-465; also R. Bevan6)

evidently 2nd wife of Hamo de Crevequer:
his heir as to Chatham was his grandson Robert[Sanders, cites CIPM i, 5635]
_____________________

re: her husband:

of Chatham, Kent

he 'did not obtain his lands until 1217 because he had fought against
King John' (Sanders p. 31 - he was charged £100 relief)5

' Hamo de Crevequer ', granted a charter to SS. Mary and Nicholas of
Leeds: " for the souls of Robert his father and Margaret, his mother,
gave to the hospital of Ss. Mary and Nicholas of Leeds, in frank
almoin, one sheave from each acre sown in his demesne of Leeds yearly
" [inspeximus dated at Westminster, 12 June 1285, in CCR 13 Edw I, II: 296, mem. 23, no. 37]


' Hamo de Crevequer ', granted a charter to SS. Mary and Nicholas of
Leeds of the land called Marsole; witnessed by " Robert de Crevequer
and Daniel de Crevequer brothers of the donor, Hamo son of the donor,
Reginald de Holt, bailiff, " and others [inspeximus dated at Westminster, 12 June 1285, in CCR 13 Edw I, II:297, mem. 23, no. 47]


Spouse:     Hamo de Crevequer
Death:     12635
Father:     Robert de Crevequer (-ca1216)
Mother:     Margaret

Children:     William (-<1263)
     Agnes, m. John de Sandwich
     Iseult (-<1263), m. Nicholas de Lenham
     Eleanor (-1301)
     Isabel (-1283.)1 GAV-27.

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Crevequer: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00638443&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Hamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent1

M, #68825, d. 1263
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited1 Sep 2019
     Hamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent married Maud d'Avranches, daughter of William d'Avranches of Folkstone, Kent.1
Hamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent died in 1263.1
     ; per Ravilious: heiress of Folkestone, Kent (cf. Sanders, pp. 45-465; also R. Bevan6)

evidently 2nd wife of Hamo de Crevequer:
his heir as to Chatham was his grandson Robert[Sanders, cites CIPM i, 5635]
_____________________

re: her husband:

of Chatham, Kent

he 'did not obtain his lands until 1217 because he had fought against
King John' (Sanders p. 31 - he was charged £100 relief)5

' Hamo de Crevequer ', granted a charter to SS. Mary and Nicholas of
Leeds: " for the souls of Robert his father and Margaret, his mother,
gave to the hospital of Ss. Mary and Nicholas of Leeds, in frank
almoin, one sheave from each acre sown in his demesne of Leeds yearly
" [inspeximus dated at Westminster, 12 June 1285, in CCR 13 Edw I, II: 296, mem. 23, no. 37]


' Hamo de Crevequer ', granted a charter to SS. Mary and Nicholas of
Leeds of the land called Marsole; witnessed by " Robert de Crevequer
and Daniel de Crevequer brothers of the donor, Hamo son of the donor,
Reginald de Holt, bailiff, " and others [inspeximus dated at Westminster, 12 June 1285, in CCR 13 Edw I, II:297, mem. 23, no. 47]


Spouse:     Hamo de Crevequer
Death:     12635
Father:     Robert de Crevequer (-ca1216)
Mother:     Margaret

Children:     William (-<1263)
     Agnes, m. John de Sandwich
     Iseult (-<1263), m. Nicholas de Lenham
     Eleanor (-1301)
     Isabel (-1283.)1 GAV-27.

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Crevequer: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00638443&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

William d'Avranches1

M, #68826, b. before 1215, d. 1236
FatherWilliam d'Avranches of Folkstone, Kent1 d. 1230
Last Edited27 Dec 2007
     William d'Avranches was born before 1215.1
William d'Avranches died in 1236.1

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."

William de Crevequer1

M, #68827, d. before 1263
FatherHamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent1 d. 1263
MotherMaud d'Avranches1
Last Edited27 Dec 2007
     William de Crevequer died before 1263.1

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."

Agnes de Crevequer1

F, #68828
FatherHamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent1 d. 1263
MotherMaud d'Avranches1
Last Edited27 Dec 2007
     Agnes de Crevequer married John de Sandwich.1

Family

John de Sandwich

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."

Iseult de Crevequer1

F, #68830, d. before 1263
FatherHamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent1 d. 1263
MotherMaud d'Avranches1
Last Edited27 Dec 2007
     Iseult de Crevequer married Nicholas de Lenham.1
Iseult de Crevequer died before 1263.1

Family

Nicholas de Lenham

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."

Isabel de Crevequer1

F, #68832, d. 1283
FatherHamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent1 d. 1263
MotherMaud d'Avranches1
Last Edited27 Dec 2007
     Isabel de Crevequer died in 1283.1

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."

Eleanor de Crevequer1

F, #68833, d. 1301
FatherHamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent1 d. 1263
MotherMaud d'Avranches1
ReferenceGAV26
Last Edited27 Aug 2019
     Eleanor de Crevequer married Bertram de Criol.1
Eleanor de Crevequer died in 1301.1
     ; per Ravilious: coheiress of her brother William de Crevequer (Sanders, p. 45)5,6

Spouse:     Bertram de Criol
Death:     12955

Children:     John (dsp -1301)
     Bertram (dsp -1306)
     Joan (-1322.)1 GAV-26.

Family

Bertram de Criol d. 1295
Children

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."

Bertram de Criol1

M, #68834, d. 1295
ReferenceGAV26
Last Edited27 Aug 2019
     Bertram de Criol married Eleanor de Crevequer, daughter of Hamo de Crevequer of Chatham, Kent and Maud d'Avranches.1
Bertram de Criol died in 1295.1
     GAV-26.

Family

Eleanor de Crevequer d. 1301
Children

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."

John de Criol1

M, #68835, d. 1301
FatherBertram de Criol1 d. 1295
MotherEleanor de Crevequer1 d. 1301
Last Edited27 Dec 2007
     John de Criol died in 1301; dsp.1

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."

Bertram de Criol1

M, #68836, d. 1306
FatherBertram de Criol1 d. 1295
MotherEleanor de Crevequer1 d. 1301
Last Edited27 Dec 2007
     Bertram de Criol died in 1306; dsp.1

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."

Joan de Rokesley1

F, #68837, d. after 1330
FatherSir Richard de Rokesley1
MotherJoan de Criol1 d. 1322
Last Edited27 Dec 2007
     Joan de Rokesley married Walter de Pateshul.1
Joan de Rokesley died after 1330.1

Family

Walter de Pateshul

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."

Joan de Poynings1

F, #68839
FatherSir Thomas de Poynings Lord Poynings1 d. 10 Oct 1339
MotherAgnes de Rokesley1 d. b 22 Dec 1346
Last Edited27 Dec 2007
     Joan de Poynings married Sir William Oreketot (Criketot?)1

Family

Sir William Oreketot (Criketot?)

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."

Richard de Poynings1

M, #68841
FatherSir Thomas de Poynings Lord Poynings1 d. 10 Oct 1339
MotherAgnes de Rokesley1 d. b 22 Dec 1346
Last Edited27 Dec 2007

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."

Luke de Poynings1

M, #68842
FatherSir Thomas de Poynings Lord Poynings1 d. 10 Oct 1339
MotherAgnes de Rokesley1 d. b 22 Dec 1346
Last Edited27 Dec 2007

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."

Thomas de Poynings 2nd Lord Pynings1,2

M, #68843, d. before 25 June 1375
FatherSir Michael de Poynings 1st Baron Poynings1,3 d. bt 7 Mar 1368 - 1369
MotherJoan Rokesley1,4 d. 16 May 1369
Last Edited30 Aug 2019
     Thomas de Poynings 2nd Lord Pynings married Blanche Mowbray, daughter of Sir John de Mowbray Knt., 3rd Lord Mowbray, Baron of Axholme and Thirsk and Joan (?) of Lancaster, before 5 June 1372; her 3rd husband.5,6
Thomas de Poynings 2nd Lord Pynings died before 25 June 1375; Ravilious says d 1374; Richardson says d "shortly before 25 June 1375.1,6

Family

Blanche Mowbray d. 21 Jul 1409

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), p. 57. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Michael Poynings, 1st Baron Poynings: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437219&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Rokesley: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00568521&tree=LEO
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Mowbray 8.ii: pp. 531.
  6. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Norfolk 7.i: p. 552.

Margaret de Poynings1

F, #68844
FatherSir Michael de Poynings 1st Baron Poynings1 d. bt 7 Mar 1368 - 1369
MotherJoan Rokesley1 d. 16 May 1369
Last Edited27 Dec 2007

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."

Elizabeth de Poynings1

F, #68845
FatherSir Michael de Poynings 1st Baron Poynings1 d. bt 7 Mar 1368 - 1369
MotherJoan Rokesley1 d. 16 May 1369
Last Edited27 Dec 2007

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."

Elizabeth Bardolf1

F, #68846
FatherWilliam Bardolf 4th Lord Bardolf of Wormgay1,2 b. 21 Oct 1349, d. 29 Jan 1385/86
MotherAgnes de Poynings1 d. b 13 Jun 1403
Last Edited25 May 2008
     Elizabeth Bardolf married Robert de Scales 5th Lord Scales, son of Roger de Scales 4th Lord Scales and Joan de Northwood; her 1st husband.2,1
     ; Ravilious says:      Elizabeth, m. (1) Robert, Lord Scales,
(2) Sir Henry Percy of Gainsborough.1

Family

Robert de Scales 5th Lord Scales b. c 1373, d. 7 Dec 1402

Citations

  1. [S2179] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007: "William Malet to QE II (was: Who Really Came with William the C..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 10 Sept 2007."
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), p. 56. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Ralph II de Langetot1

M, #68848
FatherRalph de Langetot1
Last Edited29 Dec 2007
     Ralph II de Langetot married Cecilia (?)1
     ; per Smith: Rosie Bevan published a brief stemma of the Langetot family in SGM
during 2003 (see archves):

1.Ralph de Langetot fl 1086
2.Ralph II de Langetot fl 1129
+ Cecilia
3.Ralph III de Langetot b.c.1120 fl 1166 d.s.p.
3.Emma de Langetot b.c.1125 fl 1185
+ NN
+ Geoffrey FitzWilliam
4. Muriel FitzWilliam b.c. 1155
+ Alan II de Dunstanville
4.Cecilia FitzWilliam b.c.1161
+ Alard FitzWilliam
2.Miles de Langetot fl 1121
3.Miles de Langetot
2.Matilda
+ Ranulf fitz Walter
2.Alice
+ Roger de Chesney

I am curious as the the identity of the Ranulf fitz Walter who married
Matilda de Langetot. He is mentioned in:

DP, p 354.
DD, pps 541, 757.
Rosie Bevan, post to SGM dated 27 Mar 2003, Emma de Langetot and DD
corrections?

I have not seen his parentage identified. I am curious to know if his
parentage has been identified.

DP, p 449.
DD, p 523-524.

Contain entries regarding Walter fitz Alberic de Cadamo and state that
he had a son Ralph (Ranulf) but does not give any more details about
him.

Since these are both important Norfolk familes, i suppose it is
possible that the two Ranulfs are one and the same. Of course, it
could also be a simple case of "the names the same". Has anyone seen
evidence to bear on this matter.

Doug Smith.1 Ralph II de Langetot was living in 1129.1

Family

Cecilia (?)
Children

Citations

  1. [S2182] Doug Smith, "Smith email 22 Sept 2007: "Ranulf fitz Walter"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 22 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 22 Sept 2007."

Cecilia (?)1

F, #68849
Last Edited29 Dec 2007
     Cecilia (?) married Ralph II de Langetot, son of Ralph de Langetot.1

Citations

  1. [S2182] Doug Smith, "Smith email 22 Sept 2007: "Ranulf fitz Walter"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 22 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 22 Sept 2007."

Ralph III de Langetot1

M, #68850, b. circa 1120
FatherRalph II de Langetot1
MotherCecilia (?)1
Last Edited29 Dec 2007
     Ralph III de Langetot died; d.s.p.1 He was born circa 1120.1
     He was living in 1166.1

Citations

  1. [S2182] Doug Smith, "Smith email 22 Sept 2007: "Ranulf fitz Walter"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 22 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 22 Sept 2007."