(?) de Rethel1

F, #65611
FatherEudes (?) Châtelain de Vitry, Comte de Rethel1,2,3 d. c 1158
MotherMathilde de Bourcq Comtesse de Rethel1,2,3 b. 1080, d. a 1151
Last Edited27 Jul 2020
     (?) de Rethel married Etienne Strabo (?) de Neufchatel.1
     ; N de Rethel; m.Etienne Strabo de Neufchatel.1

Family

Etienne Strabo (?) de Neufchatel

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#EudesVitrydied1158. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Rethel, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Rethel.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

(?) de Rethel1

F, #65613
FatherEudes (?) Châtelain de Vitry, Comte de Rethel1,2,3 d. c 1158
MotherMathilde de Bourcq Comtesse de Rethel1,2,3 b. 1080, d. a 1151
Last Edited27 Jul 2020
     (?) de Rethel married (?) (?) de Henalmont.1
     ; N de Rethel; m. N de Henalmont.1

Family

(?) (?) de Henalmont

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#EudesVitrydied1158. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Rethel, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Rethel.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Yvette de Rethel1

F, #65615
FatherEudes (?) Châtelain de Vitry, Comte de Rethel1,2,3 d. c 1158
MotherMathilde de Bourcq Comtesse de Rethel1,2,3 b. 1080, d. a 1151
Last Edited27 Jul 2020
     Yvette de Rethel married Milo (?); her 1st husband.1 Yvette de Rethel married Villain (?) d'Arzillieres; her 2nd husband.1
     ; Yvette de Rethel; 1m: Milo N; 2m: Villain d'Arzillieres.1

Family 1

Villain (?) d'Arzillieres

Family 2

Milo (?)

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#EudesVitrydied1158. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Rethel, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Rethel.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Baudoin de Rethel sn de Chemery1

M, #65618, d. 1198
FatherVuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry1,2 b. c 1100, d. 1171
MotherBéatrice (?) de Namur1,2 b. a 1101, d. 1160
Last Edited13 Jun 2020
     Baudoin de Rethel sn de Chemery died in 1198.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#ItierRetheldied1171. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Albert de Rethel Archdeacon of Liege1

M, #65619, d. 1213
FatherVuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry1,2 b. c 1100, d. 1171
MotherBéatrice (?) de Namur1,2 b. a 1101, d. 1160
Last Edited13 Jun 2020
     Albert de Rethel Archdeacon of Liege died in 1213.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#ItierRetheldied1171. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Simon de Rethel1

M, #65620
FatherVuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry1,2 b. c 1100, d. 1171
MotherBéatrice (?) de Namur1,2 b. a 1101, d. 1160
Last Edited13 Jun 2020

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#ItierRetheldied1171. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

(?) de Rethel1

F, #65621
FatherVuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry1,2 b. c 1100, d. 1171
MotherBéatrice (?) de Namur1,2 b. a 1101, d. 1160
Last Edited13 Jun 2020
     (?) de Rethel married Geoffroi (?) vidame de Châlons.1
     ; a daughter, m.Geoffroi, vidame de Chalons.1

Family

Geoffroi (?) vidame de Châlons

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#ItierRetheldied1171. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Jean (?) Comte de Rethel1

M, #65623, d. between 2 April 1251 and 15 July 1251
FatherHugues II de Rethel Comte de Rethel1,2,3 d. bt 26 May 1227 - 28 Feb 1228
MotherFelicité de Broyes Dame de Beaufort1,2,3 b. b 1181, d. bt Feb 1244 - Mar 1244
Last Edited28 Nov 2020
     Jean (?) Comte de Rethel married Agnes de Chiny, daughter of Louis IV (?) Cte de Chiny and Mathilde/Matilda (?) d'Avesnes, before April 1232;
His 1st wife.4 Jean (?) Comte de Rethel married Marie de Thourotte, daughter of Jean III de Thourotte Seigneur de Beaufort, circa 7 February 1243;
Her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife. Date of contract.1,5,2,6
Jean (?) Comte de Rethel died between 2 April 1251 and 15 July 1251.1,2
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "JEAN (-[2 Apr/15 Jul] 1251). "Hues cuens de Rethel" acknowledged that "Jehans mes freires, sires dou Chateleir" was vassal of "Thiebaut de Bar lou fil loi conte Henri et de sa meire Phelpe" for "lou moulin de Barigneicourt" by charter dated 9 Sep 1240[466]. Seigneur de Chémery. “Dominus Johannes de Chimereyo frater domini Hugonis comitis Registestensis” granted pasturage and other rights to Mont Dieu abbey, with the consent of “uxoris mee”, by charter dated Apr 1232[467]. Seigneur de Saint-Hilaire. “Hugo Regitestensis comes” granted property to “fratri meo Johanni de Retest domino de Sancto Hilerio” by charter dated Apr 1237[468]. Comte de Rethel 1243. “Jehans cuens de Retel” swore homage to “mon cousin” Mathieu II Duke of Lorraine for “mon chastel Chastiaul Renaut”, except for obligations to “le conte de Champaingne et de Brie palatin, l’archeveske de Rains et l’abbé de Saint Remi de Rains”, by charter dated 14 Dec 1244[469]. A charter dated 15 Jul 1251 records an agreement between "Gaucher de Rethel sire de Raucourt" and "Manassès de Rethel sire du Châtelier" concerning the inheritance "du comte Jean de Rethel"[470].
     "m firstly (before Apr 1232) AGNES de Chiny, daughter of LOUIS [IV] Comte de Chiny & his wife Mathilde d'Avesnes (-before 1235). The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "secunda filia comitis de Chini et Machtildis filiæ Jacobi Avesnensis" was "domina de Agimont et de Givet" and married "domino Joanni de Retest, Hugonis in comitatu successori" by whom she had one daughter who died young[471]. “Ludovicus comes de Chisnei” reached agreement with Orval concerning “prato ante Yvodium”, with the consent of “uxor mea Mathildis...cum filiabus meis Johenne et Agnes”, by charter dated Jul 1212[472]. “Dominus Johannes de Chimereyo frater domini Hugonis comitis Registestensis” granted pasturage and other rights to Mont Dieu abbey, with the consent of “uxoris mee”, by charter dated Apr 1232[473]. Dame d'Agimont et de Givet.
     "m secondly (contract 7 Feb 1243) as her second husband, MARIE de Thourotte, widow of JEAN de la Tournelle, daughter of JEAN de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon & his wife --- (-[1253/Mar 1256]). The marriage contract between "Jean de Rethel" and "Jean châtelain de Noyon et de Tourotte…sa fille Marie, veuve de Jean de la Tournelle" is dated 7 Feb 1243[474]. “Marie comitisse Regitestensi” relinquished “Castellare”, granted to her by “Johanne marito eius nunc comite Registensi...in dotem”, in favour of “domino Manassero militi fratri dicti J. comitis” by charter dated 5 Nov 1243[475]. The following document shows the couple’s marital difficulties: Pope Innocent IV communicated a complaint to the comte de Champagne from "[Jean] comte de Rethel" against “Jean de Thourotte bailli dudit Th. de Champagne” for the dissolution of his marriage to “Marie fille dudit Jean de Thourotte”, claiming that the latter had captured “[le] château de Beaufort [Montmorency], qui appartient au comte de Rethel”, by charter dated 1 Oct 1249[476]. "Marie dite comtesse de Rethel et dame d’Omont, veuve de Jean comte de Rethel" confirmed that "Gaucher comte de Rethel" recognised her dower rights in "le château d’Omont" by charter dated Oct 1251[477]. "Jean de Tourotte chevalier sire de Beaufort" accepted a transfer of revenue from "Manassès de Rethel sire du Bourcq" which was previously held by "Marie veuve de Jean comte de Rethel" as dower, as part of the arrangements for his marriage to "Félicité sa fille", by charter dated Jun 1253[478]."
Med Lands cites:
[466] Chartes du Clermontois, XX, p. 82.
[467] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, LXXI, p. 108.
[468] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, LXXVI, p. 123.
[469] Le Mercier de Morière (1893), Pièces justificatives, XLII, p. 295.
[470] Delisle (1867), 82, p. 29.
[471] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 561.
[472] Orval, CXXIV, p. 166.
[473] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, LXXI, p. 108.
[474] Delisle (1867), 52, p. 23.
[475] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, XCII, p. 150.
[476] Arbois de Jubainville (1863), Tome V, 2887, p. 438.
[477] Delisle (1867), 87, p. 30.
[478] Delisle (1867), 107, p. 34.2


; Cte Jean de Rethel, +1251; m.1243 Marie de Thourotte, dau.of Jean de Thourotte.1

Family 1

Agnes de Chiny d. b 1235

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#JeanRetheldied1251. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#HuguesIIRetheldied1227
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(UPPER)%20NOBILITY.htm#AgnesChimaydiedbefore1235
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#MarieThourotteM2JeanRethel
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Thourotte (alias Thorotte), p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Thourotte.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Marie de Thourotte1

F, #65624
FatherJean III de Thourotte Seigneur de Beaufort1,2,3,4
Last Edited16 Mar 2020
     Marie de Thourotte married Jean de la Tournell;
Her 1st husband.3,5 Marie de Thourotte married Jean (?) Comte de Rethel, son of Hugues II de Rethel Comte de Rethel and Felicité de Broyes Dame de Beaufort, circa 7 February 1243;
Her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife. Date of contract.1,3,6,5
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "MARIE de Thourotte (-[1253/Mar 1256]). The marriage contract between "Jean de Rethel" and "Jean châtelain de Noyon et de Tourotte…sa fille Marie, veuve de Jean de la Tournelle" is dated 7 Feb 1243[731]. The following document shows the couple’s marital difficulties: Pope Innocent IV communicated a complaint to the comte de Champagne from "[Jean] comte de Rethel" against “Jean de Thourotte bailli dudit Th. de Champagne” for the dissolution of his marriage to “Marie fille dudit Jean de Thourotte”, claiming that the latter had captured “[le] château de Beaufort [Montmorency], qui appartient au comte de Rethel”, by charter dated 1 Oct 1249[732]. "Marie dite comtesse de Rethel et dame d’Omont, veuve de Jean comte de Rethel" confirmed that "Gaucher comte de Rethel" recognised her dower rights in "le château d’Omont" by charter dated Oct 1251[733]. "Jean de Tourotte chevalier sire de Beaufort" accepted a transfer of revenue from "Manassès de Rethel sire du Bourcq" which was previously held by "Marie veuve de Jean comte de Rethel" as dower, as part of the arrangements for his marriage to "Félicité sa fille", by charter dated Jun 1253[734].
     "m firstly JEAN de la Tournelle, son of --- (-before 1243).
     "m secondly (contract 7 Feb 1243) as his second wife, JEAN Comte de Rethel, son of HUGUES [II] Comte de Rethel & his wife Félicité de Broyes dame de Beaufort (-[2 Apr/15 Jul] 1251). He succeeded his brother in 1243 as Comte de Rethel."
Med Lands cites:
[731] Delisle (1867), 52, p. 23.
[732] Arbois de Jubainville (1863), Tome V, 2887, p. 438.
[733] Delisle (1867), 87, p. 30.
[734] Delisle (1867), 107, p. 34.3


; Per Racines et Histoire: "Marie de Thourotte + entre 1253 et 03/1256
     ép. 1) Jean de La Tournelle + avant 1243
     ép. 2) (c.m.) 07/02/1243 Jean, comte de Rethel (1243) + entre 02/04 et 15/07/1251 (fils de Hugues II et de Félicité de Broyes, dame de Beaufort.)5"

; Marie de Thourotte, dau.of Jean de Thourotte.1

Family 1

Jean de la Tournell d. b 1243

Family 2

Jean (?) Comte de Rethel d. bt 2 Apr 1251 - 15 Jul 1251

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#JeanThourottedied1253. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#MarieThourotteM2JeanRethel
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Thourotte (alias Thorotte), p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Thourotte.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Thourotte (alias Thorotte), p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Thourotte.pdf
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#JeanRetheldied1251

Jean III de Thourotte Seigneur de Beaufort1

M, #65625
FatherJean II de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon2,3 d. bt 27 Dec 1235 - 25 Aug 1237
MotherOdette de Dampierre2,3 d. 1212
Last Edited16 Mar 2020
     ; Per Racines et Histoire: "Jean III de Thourotte ° ~1195 + entre 09/1260 et 05/1266 Châtelain de Noyon et Thourotte, seigneur d’Aillebaudières (Allibaudières, 10), Bailli, Vice-Régent & Bouteiller de Champagne (1236-1253)
     ép. 1) ~1210 Luce de Honnecourt
     ép. 2) ~02/1231 Agnès + après 1261 (une autre source lui donne pour épouse Marie de Bréban(t) (ou Brabant) d’où 2 filles ; et lui donne comme ultime
descendant Claude de Thourotte, chevalier, baron de Thourotte, seigneur de Blasy, dernier mâle de sa Maison, mais sans date... > cf Non connectés.)3"

; Per Med Lands:
     "JEAN [III] de Thourotte (-[Sep 1260/May 1266]). "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated property “in territorio de Lacheni” to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “Oda uxor mea et liberi nostri Guido, Willelmus, Johannes, Aalidis et Ermengardis”, by charter dated 1196[714]. "Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote" donated property “in bosco...Oresmox...inter Floocourt et calceiam de Behencourt...in silva Esge” to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “Odotha uxor mea et liberi mei Guido, Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Aalidis et Ermengardis”, by charter dated 1199[715]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” donated revenue to Saint-Amand for the anniversary of “Odote uxoris mee”, with the consent of “Guido filius meus primogenitus et filii mei Willelmus, Johannes, Radulfus, Walterus et Robertus et filie mei Aelis, Ermengardis et Helwidis”, by charter dated 1212[716]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” restored to Saint-Amand “nemus...Radulphi-Fossa” which had been donated by “patris mei bone memorie Johannis de Cociaco”, with the consent of “Guidonis filii mei primogeniti et militis et aliorum filiorum meorum Willelmi, Johannis et Galcheri”, by charter dated 1214[717]. "Guido de Thorota primogenitus Domini Johannis castellani Noviomi et Thorote" donated “plantam meam de Behericourt juxta nemus Milonis” to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, with the consent of “J--- castellano patre meo et fratribus meis Johanne de Thorota et Willelmo et Walchero”, by charter dated May 1221[718]. Seigneur de Beaufort: Pope Innocent IV communicated a complaint to the comte de Champagne from "[Jean] comte de Rethel" against “Jean de Thourotte bailli dudit Th. de Champagne” for the dissolution of his marriage to “Marie fille dudit Jean de Thourotte”, claiming that the latter had captured “[le] château de Beaufort [Montmorency], qui appartient au comte de Rethel”, by charter dated 1 Oct 1249[719]. "Johannes castellanus Noviomensis et Thorote" confirmed the donation made by “bone memorie pater meus Johannes quondam castellanus Noviomensis et Thorote” to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated Feb 1250[720]. "Jehans chastelain de Noyon et de Thorote" confirmed the donation to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by “Gauchiers de Thorote mes freres” by charter dated Aug 1255[721]. "Jehans chastelains de Noion et de Torote" confirmed the donation to Chapelle-aux-Planches made by "Jehans de Torote sire de Biaufort mes frex...a la fin de sa vie" by charter dated Apr 1258[722]. “Johannes Noviomensis et Thorote castellanus” confirmed the donation of property to Héronval by charter dated Aug 1260[723].
     "m ---. The name of Jean’s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
[714] Ourscamp Notre-Dame DCCLIV, p. 459.
[715] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXIV, p. 137.
[716] Saint-Amand, LIII, p. 202.
[717] Saint-Amand, LIV, p. 202.
[718] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXXIII, p. 143.
[719] Arbois de Jubainville (1863), Tome V, 2887, p. 438.
[720] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCX, p. 131.
[721] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCIX, p. 130.
[722] Chapelle-aux-Planches, 57, p. 58.
[723] Héronval, LXXIX, p. 61.2

Family

Children

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#JeanThourottedied1253. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Thourotte (alias Thorotte), p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Thourotte.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#MarieThourotteM2JeanRethel

Gaucher (?) Comte de Rethel1

M, #65626, d. between 1262 and 1263
FatherHugues II de Rethel Comte de Rethel1,2 d. bt 26 May 1227 - 28 Feb 1228
MotherFelicité de Broyes Dame de Beaufort1,2 b. b 1181, d. bt Feb 1244 - Mar 1244
Last Edited28 Nov 2020
     Gaucher (?) Comte de Rethel died between 1262 and 1263.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#HuguesIIRetheldied1227. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Simon de Rethel Archdeacon in Liege1

M, #65627, d. 1233
FatherHugues II de Rethel Comte de Rethel1,2 d. bt 26 May 1227 - 28 Feb 1228
MotherFelicité de Broyes Dame de Beaufort1,2 b. b 1181, d. bt Feb 1244 - Mar 1244
Last Edited28 Nov 2020
     Simon de Rethel Archdeacon in Liege died in 1233 at Liège, Arrondissement de Liège, Wallonia, Belgium.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#HuguesIIRetheldied1227. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Beatrix de Rethel1

F, #65628
FatherHugues II de Rethel Comte de Rethel1,2 d. bt 26 May 1227 - 28 Feb 1228
MotherFelicité de Broyes Dame de Beaufort1,2 b. b 1181, d. bt Feb 1244 - Mar 1244
Last Edited28 Nov 2020
     Beatrix de Rethel married Andre (?) de Nanteuil-la-Fossé before 1218.1
     ; Beatrix; m.before 1218 Andre de Nanteuil-la-Fossé.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#HuguesIIRetheldied1227. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Andre (?) de Nanteuil-la-Fossé1

M, #65629
Last Edited7 Sep 2004
     Andre (?) de Nanteuil-la-Fossé married Beatrix de Rethel, daughter of Hugues II de Rethel Comte de Rethel and Felicité de Broyes Dame de Beaufort, before 1218.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html

Catherine de Rethel1

F, #65630
FatherHugues II de Rethel Comte de Rethel1,2 d. bt 26 May 1227 - 28 Feb 1228
MotherFelicité de Broyes Dame de Beaufort1,2 b. b 1181, d. bt Feb 1244 - Mar 1244
Last Edited28 Nov 2020
     ; a nun at Avenay.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#HuguesIIRetheldied1227. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Agnes de Rethel1

F, #65631, d. between 1248 and 1255
FatherHugues II de Rethel Comte de Rethel1,2 d. bt 26 May 1227 - 28 Feb 1228
MotherFelicité de Broyes Dame de Beaufort1,2 b. b 1181, d. bt Feb 1244 - Mar 1244
Last Edited28 Nov 2020
     Agnes de Rethel married Etienne (?) Sire de Seignelay before 1247.1
Agnes de Rethel died between 1248 and 1255.1
     ; Agnes de Rethel, +1248/55; m.before 1247 Sire Etienne de Seignelay.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#HuguesIIRetheldied1227. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Etienne (?) Sire de Seignelay1

M, #65632
Last Edited7 Sep 2004
     Etienne (?) Sire de Seignelay married Agnes de Rethel, daughter of Hugues II de Rethel Comte de Rethel and Felicité de Broyes Dame de Beaufort, before 1247.1

Family

Agnes de Rethel d. bt 1248 - 1255

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html

Garnier IV de Trainel Siren de Marigny-ke-Chatel1,2

M, #65633, d. before September 1255
FatherGarnier III de Trainel Sire de Marigny3,2 d. bt 12 Oct 1217 - 30 Nov 1218
MotherAgnes de Mello Dame de Voisines2
Last Edited20 Jun 2006
     Garnier IV de Trainel Siren de Marigny-ke-Chatel married Helissende de Réthel Dame de Perthes et de Tagnon, daughter of Hugues II de Rethel Comte de Rethel and Felicité de Broyes Dame de Beaufort; her 2nd husband.1
Garnier IV de Trainel Siren de Marigny-ke-Chatel died before September 1255; per Genealogy.EU, d. "bef jun 1225."1,2
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIII 156.2

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Garnier IV de Trainel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197452&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Garnier III de Trainel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197454&tree=LEO

Mabilia de Bailleul Burggravine of Ypern and Bailleul1

F, #65634
Last Edited7 Sep 2004
     Mabilia de Bailleul Burggravine of Ypern and Bailleul married Hugues III (?) Comte de Rethel, son of Hugues II de Rethel Comte de Rethel and Felicité de Broyes Dame de Beaufort, between 1218 and 1219; his 1st wife.1

Family

Hugues III (?) Comte de Rethel b. bt 1191 - 1202, d. 1243
Children

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html

Jean de Rethel1

M, #65635, b. between 1218 and 1220, d. circa 1243
FatherHugues III (?) Comte de Rethel1 b. bt 1191 - 1202, d. 1243
MotherMabilia de Bailleul Burggravine of Ypern and Bailleul1
Last Edited7 Sep 2004
     Jean de Rethel was born between 1218 and 1220.1 He married Marie (?) von Oudenaarde, Dame de Baucigny et de Montcornet, daughter of Arnold IV van Oudenaarde Heer van Oudenaarde and Pamele and Alix/Adelheid de Rozoy Dame de Rosoy, Beaucignies, Lessines, before November 1235.1
Jean de Rethel died circa 1243.1
     ; Jean de Rethel, *1218/20, +ca 1243; m.before XI.1235 Marie van Audenaarde, Dame de Baucigny et de Montcornet, dau.of Arnold IV van Audenaarde.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html

Felicite de Rethel1

F, #65636, d. circa 1248
FatherHugues III (?) Comte de Rethel1 b. bt 1191 - 1202, d. 1243
MotherMabilia de Bailleul Burggravine of Ypern and Bailleul1
Last Edited7 Sep 2004
     Felicite de Rethel died circa 1248.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html

Felicite de Rethel Dame de Beaufort1

F, #65637, b. before 1242, d. after April 1257
FatherManasses IV de Réthel Comte de Réthel, Seigneur de Saulce-au-Bois1 b. a 1191, d. bt 26 Jun 1271 - 3 Mar 1274
MotherElisabeth d'Ecry1
Last Edited16 Mar 2020
     Felicite de Rethel Dame de Beaufort was born before 1242.1 She married Jean (IV) de Thourotte Seigneur de Beaufort, son of Jean III de Thourotte Seigneur de Beaufort, before 15 October 1252; Date of Contract.1,2,3
Felicite de Rethel Dame de Beaufort died after April 1257.1,3
     ; Per Genealogy.EU: "Felicite de Rethel, Dame de Beaufort, *before 1242, +after IV.1257; m.before 15.10.1252 Jean de Thourotte, sn de Beaufort."1

; Per Med Lands:
     "FELICITE (-after Apr 1257). The marriage contract between "Jean de Tourotte le jeune chevalier" and "Manassès de Rethel…sa fille Félicité" is dated 15 Oct 1252[512]. A charter dated Apr 1257 records an agreement between "Jean châtelain de Noyon et de Torotte" and "Félicité dame de Beaufort veuve du fils dudit Jean" concerning her renunciation of claims to his property and that of "de feu Agnès sa femme"[513].
     "m (contract 15 Oct 1252) JEAN de Thourotte Seigneur de Beaufort, son of JEAN [III] de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon & his wife Agnes --- (-[Jun 1253/Apr 1257]). "Jean de Tourotte chevalier sire de Beaufort" accepted a transfer of revenue from "Manassès de Rethel sire du Bourcq" which was previously held by "Marie veuve de Jean comte de Rethel" as dower, as part of the arrangements for his marriage to "Félicité sa fille", by charter dated Jun 1253[514]."
Med Lands cites:
[512] Delisle (1867), 101, p. 33.
[513] Delisle (1867), 141, p. 42.
[514] Delisle (1867), 107, p. 34.3

Family

Jean (IV) de Thourotte Seigneur de Beaufort d. bt Jun 1253 - Apr 1257

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#JeanThourottedied1253. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#FeliciteRetheldied1257

Friedrich von Ahr Graf von Hochstaden1

M, #65638, d. 1265
FatherLothar I von Ahr Graf von Hochstaden1 d. 1215
MotherMechtild von Vianden1 d. b 1241
Last Edited16 Mar 2020
     Friedrich von Ahr Graf von Hochstaden died in 1265.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "FRIEDRICH (-1265). "Fredericus frater noster, prepositus s Marie ad gradus Coloniensis…" witnessed a charter of Konrad Archbishop-elect of Köln dated 1238[480]. He succeeded his nephew as Graf von Hochstaden. The Annales Sancti Pantaleonis Coloniensis record that "Fridericus eiusdem patruus, prepositus Sanct Marie de Gradibus" succeeded on the death in Jan 1246 of "Theodericus comes de Hosteden iuvenis", and donated "comitatum de Hosteden et…castrum de Are" to the archbishop of Köln "pridie Kal Maii"[481]. "Fredericus…heres et comes de Hostaden" donated the county of Hochstaden and the castles of Ahr, Hardt and Hochstaden to the archbishopric of Köln, for the souls of "…Lotharii fratris mei, Theoderici filii sui, comitum de Hostaden", by charter dated 16 Apr 1246, which names "nepti mee, filie viri nobilis domini Conradi de Mulinarken"[482]. A charter dated 16 Apr 1246 suggests that Friedrich and Konrad Archbishop of Köln were only half-brothers: "Fridericus comes de Hostaden" donated property at Wallporzheim to the archbishopric of Köln, with the consent of "domini Conradi Coloniensis archiepiscopi, fratris mei uterini", for the souls of "Lotharii fratris nostri, necnon et Theoderici filii sui, comitum de Hostaden"[483]."
Med Lands cites:
[480] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band II, 238, p. 123.
[481] Annales Sancti Pantaleonis Coloniensis 1246, MGH SS XXII, p. 541.
[482] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band II, 297, p. 155.
[483] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band II, 298, p. 156.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANCONIA%20(LOWER%20RHINE).htm#KonradKoelndied1261. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Guyot de Rethel1

M, #65639, b. before 1245, d. circa 1275
FatherManasses IV de Réthel Comte de Réthel, Seigneur de Saulce-au-Bois1 b. a 1191, d. bt 26 Jun 1271 - 3 Mar 1274
MotherElisabeth d'Ecry1
Last Edited7 Sep 2004
     Guyot de Rethel was born before 1245.1
Guyot de Rethel died circa 1275.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html

Agnes de Chiny Dame d'Agimont et de Givet1

F, #65640
Last Edited8 Aug 2010
     Agnes de Chiny Dame d'Agimont et de Givet married Hugues IV (?) Comte de Réthel, chevalier, vicomte de, son of Manasses IV de Réthel Comte de Réthel, Seigneur de Saulce-au-Bois and Elisabeth d'Ecry, before 1268; his 1st wife.1,2

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Enghien.pdf, p. 4. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.