Thomas du Perche Comte du Perche1,2,3
M, #60901, b. circa 1193, d. 20 May 1217
Father | Geoffroy II du Perche Comte du Perche1,4,3 d. 5 Apr 1202 |
Mother | Richenza/Matilde (?) von Sachsen, Countess of Perche4 b. 1171, d. 1209 |
Reference | EDV24 |
Last Edited | 9 Nov 2020 |
Thomas du Perche Comte du Perche married Margaret (?)
; per Ravilious: "evidently his 1st wife."4 Thomas du Perche Comte du Perche was born circa 1193.4 He married Helissende de Réthel Dame de Perthes et de Tagnon, daughter of Hugues II de Rethel Comte de Rethel and Felicité de Broyes Dame de Beaufort, before 1216
; her 1st husband.1,5,2,4
Thomas du Perche Comte du Perche died on 20 May 1217 at Battle of Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England; killed in battle.1,2,4
EDV-24.
; per Ravilious: Thomas of Perche*
Birth: ca 1193[8]
Death: 20 May 1217, Battle of Lincoln[8]
Occ: Count of Perche
Count of Perche 1202-1217
confirmed the gifts of his mother 'to the nuns of le Clairets,
of the Cistercian order.'
supporter of Prince Louis of France, he fought for the Prince
in England;
slain in the Battle of Lincoln.
Thomas, count of Perche, was married to Helisende of Rethel
when he was slain at Lincoln in 1217. She was alive in
1224, by which date she had consented to 2 charters
of William, count of Perche (and bishop of Chalons).
Her seal has also been identified on a charter dated 1231,
found in the archives of l'Yonne.
cf. Shadis, p. 190[9]
Thompson, p. 70[8]
Genealogics I00330955[11] [cites ES III/4 689]
Debut de l'Histoirce de Mauves, cites charters granting
property to the abbey of la Trappe. URL:
http://mauves-huisne.com/components.php?component_name=webportal&action=show_news&news_key=XII_revolution
Vicomte de Souance et l'Abbe Ch. Metais, eds.,
Saint-Denis de Nogent-le-Rotrou, 1031-1789: Histoire
et Cartulaire (Vannes: Imprimerie et Librairie
LaFoyle, 1899), p. lxix. This source indicates that
Thomas had a first wife, Marguerite: she must have
died quite young, given that Thomas was aged about
24 (and married to Helisende) at the time he was
slain at Lincoln.
Spouse: Margaret [evidently, 1st wife]
Spouse: Helisende de Rethel [2nd wife]
Father: Hugh II, Count of Rethel (-ca1227)
Mother: Felicite de Broyes
Children: Thomas (<1215-)
Ravilious cites:
1. W. L. Warren, "Henry II," University of California Press, 1973,
[English Monarchs Series].
2. Rene de la Croix, duc de Castries, "The Lives of the Kings and
Queens of France," New York: Alfred A. Knopf, Inc., 1979.
3. Christian Settipani, "Trente-Deux Quartiers Ahnenreihe for Eleanor
of Aquitaine," 6 Sept 1998, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com,
rootsweb.com (rsponse to D.Spencer Hines, same subject, 2
Sept 1998.
4. David Faris, "Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century
Colonists," Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society,
1999, (2nd edition, 1999).
5. David Faris, "Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists,"
Baltimore: the Genealogical Pub. Company, 1st ed.
6. Robert William Eyton, "Court, Household, and Itinerary of King
Henry II," London: Taylor, 1878.
7. Detlev Schewennicke, "Europäische Stammtafeln: Neue Folge,"
[ " European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series " ], Frankfurt am Main: Vittorio
Klostermann, 1998 [4th series], Band I.1 [Tafel 3 - Die Arnulfinger -751-771 Konige der Franken ], First series by
Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by
Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven.
8. Kathleen Thompson, "Matilda, countess of the Perche
(1171-1210): the expression of authority in name, style and
seal," Tabularia e Etudes, no. 3, 2003, pp. 69-88, URL
http://www.unicaen.fr/mrsh/crahm/revue/tabularia/thompson.html
email Kathleen.Thompson@shu.ac.uk,
Honorary Research Fellow, University of Sheffield.
9. Miriam Shadis and Constance Hoffman Berman, "A Taste of
the Feast: Reconsidering Eleanor of Aquitaine's Female
Descendants," Bonnie Wheeler and John Carmi Parsons, eds.,
"Eleanor of Aquitaine: Lord and Lady," New York: Palgrave
Macmillan, 2002, Chapter 8 (pp. 177-211).
10. Adrian Channing, "Re: ROYAL BASTARDS/HENRY I," Sept 10, 1998,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Bradenstoke Cartulary, 655
[1144 x 1191] and 235 [1191 x 1202].
11. "Genealogics," website by Leo van de Pas,
http://www.genealogics.com,
cites Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg.,
Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, [ES], and other sources.
13. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 - [microprint, 1982 (Alan Sutton) ], The Complete Peerage of England Scotland
Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
14. William Brown, B.A., ed., "Yorkshire Inquisitions," The
Yorkshire Archaeological Society, Record Series), various
dates:, Vol. I (Record series vol. XII) - 1892, Vol.
II(Record series vol. XXIII) - 1898, Vol. III (Record series
vol. XXXI) - 1902, Vol. IV (Record series vol. XXXVII) - 1906.
15. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and
Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
16. "Calendar of the Close Rolls," Edw I, vol. IV (1296-1302),
London: Printed for His Majesty's Stationery Office by Mackie
& Co., LD., 1906.
17. "Calendar of the Patent Rolls," preserved in the Public Record
Office, Edward I. A.D. 1301-1307, London: for the Public
Record Office, 1898, (reprinted 1971, Kraus-Thomson,
Liechtenstein).
18. MichaelAnne Guido, "Ancestry of Beatrice, wife of Robert
Hauley - Part Two," 14 January 2005, email
ClaudiusI0@aol.com, cites Calendar of Documents pertaining
to Scotland preserved in her majestys public Record office,
London edited by Joseph Bain, Vol. I 1108-1272, #2047.
April 24, 1256; also #1420. Dec. 30, 1303.
19. "Calendar of the Close Rolls," Edw III (1327-1330), London:
Printed for His Majesty's Stationery Office by Eyre and
Spottiswoode, 1896.
20. W. H. Bliss, B.C.L. and C. Johnson, M.A., "Calendar of Entries
in the Papal Registers Relating to Great Britain and Ireland,"
Papal Letters, Vol. III (A.D. 1342-1362), London: for the
Public Record Office, 1897, (reprinted 1971, Kraus-Thomson,
Liechtenstein).
21. D. E. Easson, ed., "Charters of the Abbey of Coupar Angus,"
Edinburgh: T. and A. Constable, Ltd., for the Scottish
History Society, 1947.
22. Jonathan Sumption, "The Hundred Years War," Philadelphia:
University of Pennsylvania Press, 1999, Vol. II: Trial by Fire.
23. "Charters of the Royal Burgh of Ayr," Edinburgh: printed for
The Ayr and Wigton Archaeological Association, 1883.4
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III/4 689.1 He was comte du Perche between 1202 and 1217.4,3
; per Ravilious: "evidently his 1st wife."4 Thomas du Perche Comte du Perche was born circa 1193.4 He married Helissende de Réthel Dame de Perthes et de Tagnon, daughter of Hugues II de Rethel Comte de Rethel and Felicité de Broyes Dame de Beaufort, before 1216
; her 1st husband.1,5,2,4
Thomas du Perche Comte du Perche died on 20 May 1217 at Battle of Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England; killed in battle.1,2,4
EDV-24.
; per Ravilious: Thomas of Perche*
Birth: ca 1193[8]
Death: 20 May 1217, Battle of Lincoln[8]
Occ: Count of Perche
Count of Perche 1202-1217
confirmed the gifts of his mother 'to the nuns of le Clairets,
of the Cistercian order.'
supporter of Prince Louis of France, he fought for the Prince
in England;
slain in the Battle of Lincoln.
Thomas, count of Perche, was married to Helisende of Rethel
when he was slain at Lincoln in 1217. She was alive in
1224, by which date she had consented to 2 charters
of William, count of Perche (and bishop of Chalons).
Her seal has also been identified on a charter dated 1231,
found in the archives of l'Yonne.
cf. Shadis, p. 190[9]
Thompson, p. 70[8]
Genealogics I00330955[11] [cites ES III/4 689]
Debut de l'Histoirce de Mauves, cites charters granting
property to the abbey of la Trappe. URL:
http://mauves-huisne.com/components.php?component_name=webportal&action=show_news&news_key=XII_revolution
Vicomte de Souance et l'Abbe Ch. Metais, eds.,
Saint-Denis de Nogent-le-Rotrou, 1031-1789: Histoire
et Cartulaire (Vannes: Imprimerie et Librairie
LaFoyle, 1899), p. lxix. This source indicates that
Thomas had a first wife, Marguerite: she must have
died quite young, given that Thomas was aged about
24 (and married to Helisende) at the time he was
slain at Lincoln.
Spouse: Margaret [evidently, 1st wife]
Spouse: Helisende de Rethel [2nd wife]
Father: Hugh II, Count of Rethel (-ca1227)
Mother: Felicite de Broyes
Children: Thomas (<1215-)
Ravilious cites:
1. W. L. Warren, "Henry II," University of California Press, 1973,
[English Monarchs Series].
2. Rene de la Croix, duc de Castries, "The Lives of the Kings and
Queens of France," New York: Alfred A. Knopf, Inc., 1979.
3. Christian Settipani, "Trente-Deux Quartiers Ahnenreihe for Eleanor
of Aquitaine," 6 Sept 1998, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com,
rootsweb.com (rsponse to D.Spencer Hines, same subject, 2
Sept 1998.
4. David Faris, "Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century
Colonists," Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society,
1999, (2nd edition, 1999).
5. David Faris, "Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists,"
Baltimore: the Genealogical Pub. Company, 1st ed.
6. Robert William Eyton, "Court, Household, and Itinerary of King
Henry II," London: Taylor, 1878.
7. Detlev Schewennicke, "Europäische Stammtafeln: Neue Folge,"
[ " European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series " ], Frankfurt am Main: Vittorio
Klostermann, 1998 [4th series], Band I.1 [Tafel 3 - Die Arnulfinger -751-771 Konige der Franken ], First series by
Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by
Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven.
8. Kathleen Thompson, "Matilda, countess of the Perche
(1171-1210): the expression of authority in name, style and
seal," Tabularia e Etudes, no. 3, 2003, pp. 69-88, URL
http://www.unicaen.fr/mrsh/crahm/revue/tabularia/thompson.html
email Kathleen.Thompson@shu.ac.uk,
Honorary Research Fellow, University of Sheffield.
9. Miriam Shadis and Constance Hoffman Berman, "A Taste of
the Feast: Reconsidering Eleanor of Aquitaine's Female
Descendants," Bonnie Wheeler and John Carmi Parsons, eds.,
"Eleanor of Aquitaine: Lord and Lady," New York: Palgrave
Macmillan, 2002, Chapter 8 (pp. 177-211).
10. Adrian Channing, "Re: ROYAL BASTARDS/HENRY I," Sept 10, 1998,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Bradenstoke Cartulary, 655
[1144 x 1191] and 235 [1191 x 1202].
11. "Genealogics," website by Leo van de Pas,
http://www.genealogics.com,
cites Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg.,
Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, [ES], and other sources.
13. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 - [microprint, 1982 (Alan Sutton) ], The Complete Peerage of England Scotland
Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
14. William Brown, B.A., ed., "Yorkshire Inquisitions," The
Yorkshire Archaeological Society, Record Series), various
dates:, Vol. I (Record series vol. XII) - 1892, Vol.
II(Record series vol. XXIII) - 1898, Vol. III (Record series
vol. XXXI) - 1902, Vol. IV (Record series vol. XXXVII) - 1906.
15. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and
Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
16. "Calendar of the Close Rolls," Edw I, vol. IV (1296-1302),
London: Printed for His Majesty's Stationery Office by Mackie
& Co., LD., 1906.
17. "Calendar of the Patent Rolls," preserved in the Public Record
Office, Edward I. A.D. 1301-1307, London: for the Public
Record Office, 1898, (reprinted 1971, Kraus-Thomson,
Liechtenstein).
18. MichaelAnne Guido, "Ancestry of Beatrice, wife of Robert
Hauley - Part Two," 14 January 2005, email
ClaudiusI0@aol.com, cites Calendar of Documents pertaining
to Scotland preserved in her majestys public Record office,
London edited by Joseph Bain, Vol. I 1108-1272, #2047.
April 24, 1256; also #1420. Dec. 30, 1303.
19. "Calendar of the Close Rolls," Edw III (1327-1330), London:
Printed for His Majesty's Stationery Office by Eyre and
Spottiswoode, 1896.
20. W. H. Bliss, B.C.L. and C. Johnson, M.A., "Calendar of Entries
in the Papal Registers Relating to Great Britain and Ireland,"
Papal Letters, Vol. III (A.D. 1342-1362), London: for the
Public Record Office, 1897, (reprinted 1971, Kraus-Thomson,
Liechtenstein).
21. D. E. Easson, ed., "Charters of the Abbey of Coupar Angus,"
Edinburgh: T. and A. Constable, Ltd., for the Scottish
History Society, 1947.
22. Jonathan Sumption, "The Hundred Years War," Philadelphia:
University of Pennsylvania Press, 1999, Vol. II: Trial by Fire.
23. "Charters of the Royal Burgh of Ayr," Edinburgh: printed for
The Ayr and Wigton Archaeological Association, 1883.4
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III/4 689.1 He was comte du Perche between 1202 and 1217.4,3
Family 1 | Margaret (?) |
Family 2 | Helissende de Réthel Dame de Perthes et de Tagnon d. c 1234 |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00330955&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counts_and_Viscounts_of_Ch%C3%A2teaudun. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S2098] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 7 Sept 2006: "Re: CP Correction: Helisant 'du Perche', wife of Matthew de Lovaine"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/GiQpulF-RTk/m/sxTFfasJiiwJ) to e-mail address, 7 Sept 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 7 Sept 2006."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hélissende de Rethel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197453&tree=LEO
Mathilde (?) Wildgrafin in Kyrburg1,2,3
F, #60902, d. after 1221
Father | Konrad I Von Kyrburg wildgraf und graf von Kyrburg in Schmidtheim, comte palatin du Rhin2,4,5,1,3 b. c 1110, d. a 1173 |
Mother | Mathilde de Bar5,6,1,3 |
Last Edited | 16 Dec 2020 |
Mathilde (?) Wildgrafin in Kyrburg married Manassès III/IV/V (?) Comte de Réthel, son of Vuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry and Béatrice (?) de Namur, on 16 September 1176
; Genealogics says m. 16 Sep 1176; Rethel 2 page says m. bef 16.9.1176; Med Lands says m. bef 1174.2,7,8,9,1,3
Mathilde (?) Wildgrafin in Kyrburg died after 1221.3
; Per Genealogy.EU (Rethel 2): “B2. Cte Manasses III de Rethel, *by 1158, +1198/1200; m.before 16.9.1176 Matilda, dau.of Konrad, Wildgraf von Kyburg (Lorraine)”.10
; Per Racines et Histoire (Rethel): “Manassès V (ou III), comte de Rethel ° ~1158 + 1198/1200 (donation avec son fils à Signy par charte 1194)
ép. avant 16/09/1176 Mahaut (Mathilde de HauteLorraine) comtesse Von Ky(r)burg (Lorraine) (fille de Konrad, wildgraf und graf von Kyburg, et de Mathilde de Bar)”.8
; Per Med Lands:
"MANASSES [IV] de Rethel, son of ITHIER de Vitry Comte de Rethel & his wife Beatrix de Namur (-1198). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugonem et Manassem cum aliis filiis et filiabus" children of "comitis Witeri de Retest"[427]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Albertum Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis prepositum, comitem de Reytest Manasserum, castellanum Vitriaci Henricum et Hugonem et Balduinum…et tres sorores" as the children of "comiti Guithero Reytestensi" & his wife[428]. The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Manasserum comitem Retensem, Henricum et Balduinem milites et Albertum clericum, Leodiensis…prepositum et archidiaconum" as the four sons of "comitissa Retensis [filiam Godefridi comitis Namurcensi]"[429]. Comte de Rethel. "Hugo comes destinatus post patrem meum Regiteste", on his deathbed, donated to the church of Rethel, with the consent of "pater meus Witerus et frater meus Manasses, post me natus qui mihi successit in comitatus honorem, et dominus Albertus clericus et canonicus, Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1166[430]. “Manasses comes Registensis” donated “capelle Beati Petri apostoli apud Macerias site” to Reims, with the consent of “uxoris mee Mathildis et filii mei Hugonis, et Alberti, Henrici, Balduini fratrum meorum”, by charter dated 16 Sep 1176[431]. "Manasses comes de Rethet" granted "Burcum castellum meum" as dowry to "Felicitati filie domini Symonis de Bello Forti" for "filio meo" by charter dated to [1191], witnessed by "Castellanus frater meus et Balduinus frater meus…"[432]. "Manassès comte de Rethel et Hugues son fils" donated property to Signy, in the presence of "Mahaud femme de Manassès, Baudouin son frère et Félicité femme de Hugues", by charter dated 1194[433]. “Manasses comes Regitensis et Hugo unicus filius meus” reached agreement with the abbot of Saint-Denis de Reims concerning “molendinis Castellarii super Rotanam et Pontoliam constructis” by charter dated 1196[434]. “Manasses Regitestensis comes” donated property in “Venderesia” to Omont, with the consent of “Mathilde uxore mea et Hugone filio meo et uxore eius Felicitate”, by charter dated 1198[435].
"m (before [1174]) MATHILDE, daughter of KONRAD Wildgraf und Graf von Kyburg & his wife Mathilde de Bar (-after 1221). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildis uxor comitis Manasseri Reytestensis [et] Cunegundis domna de Rista" as daughters of "tertia [sorore eiusdem comitis =comes Barri iunior Raynaldus]"[436]. “Manasses comes Registensis” donated “capelle Beati Petri apostoli apud Macerias site” to Reims, with the consent of “uxoris mee Mathildis et filii mei Hugonis, et Alberti, Henrici, Balduini fratrum meorum”, by charter dated 16 Sep 1176[437]. "Manassès comte de Rethel et Hugues son fils" donated property to Signy, in the presence of "Mahaud femme de Manassès, Baudouin son frère et Félicité femme de Hugues", by charter dated 1194[438]. “Manasses Regitestensis comes” donated property in “Venderesia” to Omont, with the consent of “Mathilde uxore mea et Hugone filio meo et uxore eius Felicitate”, by charter dated 1198[439]."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 626.1
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE (-after 1221). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildis uxor comitis Manasseri Reytestensis [et] Cunegundis domna de Rista" as daughters of "tertia [sorore eiusdem comitis =comes Barri iunior Raynaldus]"[718]. “Manasses comes Registensis” donated “capelle Beati Petri apostoli apud Macerias site” to Reims, with the consent of “uxoris mee Mathildis et filii mei Hugonis, et Alberti, Henrici, Balduini fratrum meorum”, by charter dated 16 Sep 1176[719]. "Manassès comte de Rethel et Hugues son fils" donated property to Signy, in the presence of "Mahaud femme de Manassès, Baudouin son frère et Félicité femme de Hugues", by charter dated 1194[720]. “Manasses Regitestensis comes” donated property in “Venderesia” to Omont, with the consent of “Mathilde uxore mea et Hugone filio meo et uxore eius Felicitate”, by charter dated 1198[721].
"m (before [1174]) MANASSES [IV] Comte de Rethel, son of ITHIER de Vitry Comte de Rethel & his wife Béatrice de Namur (-1198)."
Med Lands cites:
; Genealogics says m. 16 Sep 1176; Rethel 2 page says m. bef 16.9.1176; Med Lands says m. bef 1174.2,7,8,9,1,3
Mathilde (?) Wildgrafin in Kyrburg died after 1221.3
; Per Genealogy.EU (Rethel 2): “B2. Cte Manasses III de Rethel, *by 1158, +1198/1200; m.before 16.9.1176 Matilda, dau.of Konrad, Wildgraf von Kyburg (Lorraine)”.10
; Per Racines et Histoire (Rethel): “Manassès V (ou III), comte de Rethel ° ~1158 + 1198/1200 (donation avec son fils à Signy par charte 1194)
ép. avant 16/09/1176 Mahaut (Mathilde de HauteLorraine) comtesse Von Ky(r)burg (Lorraine) (fille de Konrad, wildgraf und graf von Kyburg, et de Mathilde de Bar)”.8
; Per Med Lands:
"MANASSES [IV] de Rethel, son of ITHIER de Vitry Comte de Rethel & his wife Beatrix de Namur (-1198). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugonem et Manassem cum aliis filiis et filiabus" children of "comitis Witeri de Retest"[427]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Albertum Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis prepositum, comitem de Reytest Manasserum, castellanum Vitriaci Henricum et Hugonem et Balduinum…et tres sorores" as the children of "comiti Guithero Reytestensi" & his wife[428]. The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Manasserum comitem Retensem, Henricum et Balduinem milites et Albertum clericum, Leodiensis…prepositum et archidiaconum" as the four sons of "comitissa Retensis [filiam Godefridi comitis Namurcensi]"[429]. Comte de Rethel. "Hugo comes destinatus post patrem meum Regiteste", on his deathbed, donated to the church of Rethel, with the consent of "pater meus Witerus et frater meus Manasses, post me natus qui mihi successit in comitatus honorem, et dominus Albertus clericus et canonicus, Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1166[430]. “Manasses comes Registensis” donated “capelle Beati Petri apostoli apud Macerias site” to Reims, with the consent of “uxoris mee Mathildis et filii mei Hugonis, et Alberti, Henrici, Balduini fratrum meorum”, by charter dated 16 Sep 1176[431]. "Manasses comes de Rethet" granted "Burcum castellum meum" as dowry to "Felicitati filie domini Symonis de Bello Forti" for "filio meo" by charter dated to [1191], witnessed by "Castellanus frater meus et Balduinus frater meus…"[432]. "Manassès comte de Rethel et Hugues son fils" donated property to Signy, in the presence of "Mahaud femme de Manassès, Baudouin son frère et Félicité femme de Hugues", by charter dated 1194[433]. “Manasses comes Regitensis et Hugo unicus filius meus” reached agreement with the abbot of Saint-Denis de Reims concerning “molendinis Castellarii super Rotanam et Pontoliam constructis” by charter dated 1196[434]. “Manasses Regitestensis comes” donated property in “Venderesia” to Omont, with the consent of “Mathilde uxore mea et Hugone filio meo et uxore eius Felicitate”, by charter dated 1198[435].
"m (before [1174]) MATHILDE, daughter of KONRAD Wildgraf und Graf von Kyburg & his wife Mathilde de Bar (-after 1221). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildis uxor comitis Manasseri Reytestensis [et] Cunegundis domna de Rista" as daughters of "tertia [sorore eiusdem comitis =comes Barri iunior Raynaldus]"[436]. “Manasses comes Registensis” donated “capelle Beati Petri apostoli apud Macerias site” to Reims, with the consent of “uxoris mee Mathildis et filii mei Hugonis, et Alberti, Henrici, Balduini fratrum meorum”, by charter dated 16 Sep 1176[437]. "Manassès comte de Rethel et Hugues son fils" donated property to Signy, in the presence of "Mahaud femme de Manassès, Baudouin son frère et Félicité femme de Hugues", by charter dated 1194[438]. “Manasses Regitestensis comes” donated property in “Venderesia” to Omont, with the consent of “Mathilde uxore mea et Hugone filio meo et uxore eius Felicitate”, by charter dated 1198[439]."
Med Lands cites:
[427] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.
[428] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852.
[429] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508.
[430] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, IX, p. 201.
[431] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, VIII, p. 15.
[432] Delisle (1867), 3, p. 13.
[433] Delisle (1867), 4, p. 13.
[434] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, XIII, p. 28.
[435] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, XVI, p. 33.
[436] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1170, MGH SS XXIII, p. 853.
[437] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, VIII, p. 15.
[438] Delisle (1867), 4, p. 13.
[439] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, XVI, p. 33.9
[428] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852.
[429] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508.
[430] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, IX, p. 201.
[431] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, VIII, p. 15.
[432] Delisle (1867), 3, p. 13.
[433] Delisle (1867), 4, p. 13.
[434] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, XIII, p. 28.
[435] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, XVI, p. 33.
[436] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1170, MGH SS XXIII, p. 853.
[437] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, VIII, p. 15.
[438] Delisle (1867), 4, p. 13.
[439] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, XVI, p. 33.9
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 626.1
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE (-after 1221). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildis uxor comitis Manasseri Reytestensis [et] Cunegundis domna de Rista" as daughters of "tertia [sorore eiusdem comitis =comes Barri iunior Raynaldus]"[718]. “Manasses comes Registensis” donated “capelle Beati Petri apostoli apud Macerias site” to Reims, with the consent of “uxoris mee Mathildis et filii mei Hugonis, et Alberti, Henrici, Balduini fratrum meorum”, by charter dated 16 Sep 1176[719]. "Manassès comte de Rethel et Hugues son fils" donated property to Signy, in the presence of "Mahaud femme de Manassès, Baudouin son frère et Félicité femme de Hugues", by charter dated 1194[720]. “Manasses Regitestensis comes” donated property in “Venderesia” to Omont, with the consent of “Mathilde uxore mea et Hugone filio meo et uxore eius Felicitate”, by charter dated 1198[721].
"m (before [1174]) MANASSES [IV] Comte de Rethel, son of ITHIER de Vitry Comte de Rethel & his wife Béatrice de Namur (-1198)."
Med Lands cites:
[718] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1170, MGH SS XXIII, p. 853.
[719] Saige, G., Lacaille, H. and Labande, L. H. (1902) Trésor des chartes du comté de Rethel (Monaco) (“Chartes Rethel”), Tome I, VIII, p. 15.
[720] Delisle, L. ´Notice sur le cartulaire du comté de Rethel´, Annuaire-Bulletin de la société de l´histoire de France, Année 1867, 2ème partie, 4, p. 13.
[721] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, XVI, p. 33.3
She was living in 1176.1[719] Saige, G., Lacaille, H. and Labande, L. H. (1902) Trésor des chartes du comté de Rethel (Monaco) (“Chartes Rethel”), Tome I, VIII, p. 15.
[720] Delisle, L. ´Notice sur le cartulaire du comté de Rethel´, Annuaire-Bulletin de la société de l´histoire de France, Année 1867, 2ème partie, 4, p. 13.
[721] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, XVI, p. 33.3
Family | Manassès III/IV/V (?) Comte de Réthel b. b 1158, d. bt 1198 - 1200 |
Child |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139463&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#MathildeWildgrafMManassesRethel. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Conrad I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00148884&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#KonradWildgrafdiedafter1170
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN de Bar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00148885&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Manasses III: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139462&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Rethel, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Rethel.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#ManassesIIIRetheldied1198B
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00111043&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html#H2
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#HuguesIIRetheldied1227
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes deRethel, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Rethel.pdf
Kunigunde (?) von Kyrburg1,2
F, #60903
Father | Konrad I Von Kyrburg wildgraf und graf von Kyrburg in Schmidtheim, comte palatin du Rhin1,3,4 b. c 1110, d. a 1173 |
Mother | Mathilde de Bar1,4,5 |
Last Edited | 12 Dec 2020 |
Kunigunde (?) von Kyrburg married Hugo I (?) Graf von Lunéville, son of Folmar I von Blieskastel Graf von Blieskastel and Clementia von Metz.6,7
; Per Med Lands: "KUNIGUNDE . The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildis uxor comitis Manasseri Reytestensis [et] Cunegundis domna de Rista" as daughters of "tertia [sorore eiusdem comitis =comes Barri iunior Raynaldus]"[722]. m HUGO [I] Comte de Lunéville, son of FOLMAR [I] Graf von Bliescastel & his wife Clementia von Metz (-1220 or after)."
Med Lands cites: [722] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1170, MGH SS XXIII, p. 853.2
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: IV 113; VI 156.8
; Per Med Lands: "KUNIGUNDE . The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildis uxor comitis Manasseri Reytestensis [et] Cunegundis domna de Rista" as daughters of "tertia [sorore eiusdem comitis =comes Barri iunior Raynaldus]"[722]. m HUGO [I] Comte de Lunéville, son of FOLMAR [I] Graf von Bliescastel & his wife Clementia von Metz (-1220 or after)."
Med Lands cites: [722] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1170, MGH SS XXIII, p. 853.2
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: IV 113; VI 156.8
Family | Hugo I (?) Graf von Lunéville d. c 1220 |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Kunigunde von Kirburg: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00302922&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#KunigundeWildgrafMHugoLuneville. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Conrad I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00148884&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#KonradWildgrafdiedafter1170
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN de Bar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00148885&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugo I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00302921&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(UPPER)%20NOBILITY.htm#HugoIBlieskastelLunevilledied1220A
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Kunigunde von Kirburg: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00302922&tree=LEO
Hugo I (?) Graf von Lunéville1
M, #60904, d. circa 1220
Father | Folmar I von Blieskastel Graf von Blieskastel2 d. c 1179 |
Mother | Clementia von Metz3 |
Last Edited | 29 Dec 2019 |
Hugo I (?) Graf von Lunéville married Kunigunde (?) von Kyrburg, daughter of Konrad I Von Kyrburg wildgraf und graf von Kyrburg in Schmidtheim, comte palatin du Rhin and Mathilde de Bar.4,3
Hugo I (?) Graf von Lunéville died circa 1220; Med Lands says d. 1220 or after.1,3
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VI 156/7.1
; Per Med Lands: "HUGO [I] (-1220 or after). “...Folmarus comes de Castello et filii eius Folmarus et Hugo...” subscribed the charter dated 1172 under which “Ludovicus senior comes de Sarwerden...et frater meus Ludovicus” confirmed the foundation of Wœrschweiler (Wernereswilre) abbey[315]. Comte de Lunéville. m KUNIGUNDE, daughter of KONRAD [I] Wildgraf und Graf von Kyrburg & his wife Mathilde de Bar ([after 1160/65?]-). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildis uxor comitis Manasseri Reytestensis [et] Cunegundis domna de Rista" as daughters of "tertia [sorore eiusdem comitis =comes Barri iunior Raynaldus]"[316]. The chronology of her children’s lives suggests that Kunigunde was unlikely to have been born before [1160/65]."
Med Lands cites:
Hugo I (?) Graf von Lunéville died circa 1220; Med Lands says d. 1220 or after.1,3
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VI 156/7.1
; Per Med Lands: "HUGO [I] (-1220 or after). “...Folmarus comes de Castello et filii eius Folmarus et Hugo...” subscribed the charter dated 1172 under which “Ludovicus senior comes de Sarwerden...et frater meus Ludovicus” confirmed the foundation of Wœrschweiler (Wernereswilre) abbey[315]. Comte de Lunéville. m KUNIGUNDE, daughter of KONRAD [I] Wildgraf und Graf von Kyrburg & his wife Mathilde de Bar ([after 1160/65?]-). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildis uxor comitis Manasseri Reytestensis [et] Cunegundis domna de Rista" as daughters of "tertia [sorore eiusdem comitis =comes Barri iunior Raynaldus]"[316]. The chronology of her children’s lives suggests that Kunigunde was unlikely to have been born before [1160/65]."
Med Lands cites:
[315] Preuves de l´Histoire de Metz (1781), p. 134.
[316] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1170, MGH SS XXIII, p. 853.3
He was living in 1186.4[316] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1170, MGH SS XXIII, p. 853.3
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugo I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00302921&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(UPPER)%20NOBILITY.htm#FolmarIBlieskasteldied1179B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(UPPER)%20NOBILITY.htm#HugoIBlieskastelLunevilledied1220A
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugo I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00302921&tree=LEO
Gerhard I (?) Wildgraf und Graf von Kyrburg in Schmidtheim, comte palatin du Rhin1,2,3
M, #60905, d. after 1172
Father | Konrad I Von Kyrburg wildgraf und graf von Kyrburg in Schmidtheim, comte palatin du Rhin2,3,4,5 b. c 1110, d. a 1173 |
Mother | Mathilde de Bar2,3,5,6 |
Last Edited | 12 Dec 2020 |
Gerhard I (?) Wildgraf und Graf von Kyrburg in Schmidtheim, comte palatin du Rhin died after 1172.7,8 He married Agnes (?) von Wittelsbach, daughter of Otto (?) Pfalzgraf of Bavaria and Benedikta von Moosburg, between 1198 and 1202
;
Her 1st husband.9,2,3
Gerhard I (?) Wildgraf und Graf von Kyrburg in Schmidtheim, comte palatin du Rhin died after 1202; Med Lands says d. aft 1198/1202.3
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"GERHARD [I], son of KONRAD Wildgraf, Graf von Kyrburg & his wife Mathilde de Bar (-after [1198/1202]). Wildgraf. “...Gerardus comes Silvaticus...” subscribed the charter dated 1172 under which “Ludovicus senior comes de Sarwerden...et frater meus Ludovicus” confirmed the foundation of Wœrschweiler (Wernereswilre) abbey[731]. "Gerhardus Silvester comes et frater eius Conradus, Gerlacus comes de Veldenzem et filius eius Gerlacus, Embricho Hirsutus comes et frater eius Conradus…" witnessed a charter dated 1186 under which the archbishop of Mainz confirmed an exchange involving Flonheim[732]. Graf von Kyrburg.
"m (before [1198/1202]) as her first husband, AGNES von Wittelsbach, daughter of OTTO [IV] Pfalzgraf of Bavaria & his wife Benedikta von Wörth (-5 Mar ----). 1172/1219. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "Albertum [filius comiti Alberto de Everstein ultra Coliniam]" as "neptem archiepiscopi Moguntini que fuerat comitissa Silvestris sororem scilicet illius comitis Ottonis de Withhelebac qui interfecit Philippum de Suavia"[733]. She married secondly ([1198/1202]) as his second wife, Albert [IV] Graf von Everstein. Another indication of her two marriages is provided by the charter dated 28 Jun 1253 under which [her grandson, son of her son by her first marriage] “Gerhardus...Maguntine sedis archiepiscopus” confirmed a donation made by [her son by her second marriage] “patruus noster Otto comes de Euerstein”[734]. "
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"AGNES (-5 Mar ----). 1172/1219. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "Albertum [filius comiti Alberto de Everstein ultra Coliniam]" as "neptem archiepiscopi Moguntini que fuerat comitissa Silvestris sororem scilicet illius comitis Ottonis de Withhelebac qui interfecit Philippum de Suavia"[872]. The primary source which confirms the name of her first husband has not yet been identified. Another indication of her two marriages is provided by the charter dated 28 Jun 1253 under which [her grandson, son of her son by her first marriage] “Gerhardus...Maguntine sedis archiepiscopus” confirmed a donation made by [her son by her second marriage] “patruus noster Otto comes de Euerstein”[873].
"m firstly GERHARD [I] Wildgraf und Graf von Kyrburg, son of KONRAD Wildgraf, Graf von Kyrburg & his wife Mathilde de Bar. 1172/98.
"m secondly ([1198/1202]) [as his second wife,] ALBERT [IV] Graf von Everstein, of ALBERT [III] Graf von Everstein & his wife Ryksa of Silesia (-19 Sep [1210/17])."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Wittelsbach 1): "E3. Agnes, fl 1172/1219; 1m: Gerhard I, Wildgf in Kyrburg; 2m: Gf Albrecht IV von Everstein."11 He was living in 1172.2
;
Her 1st husband.9,2,3
Gerhard I (?) Wildgraf und Graf von Kyrburg in Schmidtheim, comte palatin du Rhin died after 1202; Med Lands says d. aft 1198/1202.3
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: III 144.
2. Die Nachkommen Karls des Grossen 1995, Neustadt an der Aisch , Erich Brandenburg, Reference: 100.2
2. Die Nachkommen Karls des Grossen 1995, Neustadt an der Aisch , Erich Brandenburg, Reference: 100.2
; Per Med Lands:
"GERHARD [I], son of KONRAD Wildgraf, Graf von Kyrburg & his wife Mathilde de Bar (-after [1198/1202]). Wildgraf. “...Gerardus comes Silvaticus...” subscribed the charter dated 1172 under which “Ludovicus senior comes de Sarwerden...et frater meus Ludovicus” confirmed the foundation of Wœrschweiler (Wernereswilre) abbey[731]. "Gerhardus Silvester comes et frater eius Conradus, Gerlacus comes de Veldenzem et filius eius Gerlacus, Embricho Hirsutus comes et frater eius Conradus…" witnessed a charter dated 1186 under which the archbishop of Mainz confirmed an exchange involving Flonheim[732]. Graf von Kyrburg.
"m (before [1198/1202]) as her first husband, AGNES von Wittelsbach, daughter of OTTO [IV] Pfalzgraf of Bavaria & his wife Benedikta von Wörth (-5 Mar ----). 1172/1219. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "Albertum [filius comiti Alberto de Everstein ultra Coliniam]" as "neptem archiepiscopi Moguntini que fuerat comitissa Silvestris sororem scilicet illius comitis Ottonis de Withhelebac qui interfecit Philippum de Suavia"[733]. She married secondly ([1198/1202]) as his second wife, Albert [IV] Graf von Everstein. Another indication of her two marriages is provided by the charter dated 28 Jun 1253 under which [her grandson, son of her son by her first marriage] “Gerhardus...Maguntine sedis archiepiscopus” confirmed a donation made by [her son by her second marriage] “patruus noster Otto comes de Euerstein”[734]. "
Med Lands cites:
[731] Preuves de l´Histoire de Metz (1781), p. 134.
[732] Croll ´Graven von Veldenz´, Acta Academiæ Theodoro-Palatinæ (1770), Vol. II, p. 266, citation reference unclear.
[733] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1141, MGH SS XXIII, p. 834.
[734] Wilmans, R. & Finke, H. (eds.) (1874-1890) Westfälisches Urkundenbuch, Band IV (Münster) (“Westfälisches Urkundenburch Band IV”), Zweite Abteilung (1880), 538, p. 324.3
[732] Croll ´Graven von Veldenz´, Acta Academiæ Theodoro-Palatinæ (1770), Vol. II, p. 266, citation reference unclear.
[733] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1141, MGH SS XXIII, p. 834.
[734] Wilmans, R. & Finke, H. (eds.) (1874-1890) Westfälisches Urkundenbuch, Band IV (Münster) (“Westfälisches Urkundenburch Band IV”), Zweite Abteilung (1880), 538, p. 324.3
; Per Med Lands:
"AGNES (-5 Mar ----). 1172/1219. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "Albertum [filius comiti Alberto de Everstein ultra Coliniam]" as "neptem archiepiscopi Moguntini que fuerat comitissa Silvestris sororem scilicet illius comitis Ottonis de Withhelebac qui interfecit Philippum de Suavia"[872]. The primary source which confirms the name of her first husband has not yet been identified. Another indication of her two marriages is provided by the charter dated 28 Jun 1253 under which [her grandson, son of her son by her first marriage] “Gerhardus...Maguntine sedis archiepiscopus” confirmed a donation made by [her son by her second marriage] “patruus noster Otto comes de Euerstein”[873].
"m firstly GERHARD [I] Wildgraf und Graf von Kyrburg, son of KONRAD Wildgraf, Graf von Kyrburg & his wife Mathilde de Bar. 1172/98.
"m secondly ([1198/1202]) [as his second wife,] ALBERT [IV] Graf von Everstein, of ALBERT [III] Graf von Everstein & his wife Ryksa of Silesia (-19 Sep [1210/17])."
Med Lands cites:
[872] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1141, MGH SS XXIII, p. 834.
[873] Wilmans, R. & Finke, H. (eds.) (1874-1890) Westfälisches Urkundenbuch, Band IV (Münster) (“Westfälisches Urkundenburch Band IV”), Zweite Abteilung (1880), 538, p. 324.10
[873] Wilmans, R. & Finke, H. (eds.) (1874-1890) Westfälisches Urkundenbuch, Band IV (Münster) (“Westfälisches Urkundenburch Band IV”), Zweite Abteilung (1880), 538, p. 324.10
; Per Genealogy.EU (Wittelsbach 1): "E3. Agnes, fl 1172/1219; 1m: Gerhard I, Wildgf in Kyrburg; 2m: Gf Albrecht IV von Everstein."11 He was living in 1172.2
Family | Agnes (?) von Wittelsbach d. b 1219 |
Children |
Citations
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Bar, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerhard I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00148883&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#GerhardWildgrafdiedafter1198B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Conrad I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00148884&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#KonradWildgrafdiedafter1170
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN de Bar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00148885&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerhard I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00148883&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 4.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00124852&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAVARIA.htm#AgnesM1GerhardKyrburgM2AlbrechtEverstein
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Wittel 1 page - The House of Wittelsbach: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wittel/wittel1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Wildgräfin Beatrix in Kirburg: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00021710&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#BeatrixWildgrafM2DirkValkenburg
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Konrad II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164597&tree=LEO
Agnes (?) von Wittelsbach1,2
F, #60906, d. before 1219
Father | Otto (?) Pfalzgraf of Bavaria1,3 d. 18 Aug 1198 |
Mother | Benedikta von Moosburg1,3 |
Last Edited | 19 Oct 2020 |
Agnes (?) von Wittelsbach married Gerhard I (?) Wildgraf und Graf von Kyrburg in Schmidtheim, comte palatin du Rhin, son of Konrad I Von Kyrburg wildgraf und graf von Kyrburg in Schmidtheim, comte palatin du Rhin and Mathilde de Bar, between 1198 and 1202
;
Her 1st husband.2,4,5 Agnes (?) von Wittelsbach married Albrecht IV von Everstein Graf von Everstein, son of Albert III von Everstein Graf von Everstein and RixaRichildeRyksa (?) Princess of Silesia, Queen of Castile, between 1198 and 1202
;
Her 2nd husband.6,2,7,3
Agnes (?) von Wittelsbach died before 1219.2,3
; Per Med Lands:
"GERHARD [I], son of KONRAD Wildgraf, Graf von Kyrburg & his wife Mathilde de Bar (-after [1198/1202]). Wildgraf. “...Gerardus comes Silvaticus...” subscribed the charter dated 1172 under which “Ludovicus senior comes de Sarwerden...et frater meus Ludovicus” confirmed the foundation of Wœrschweiler (Wernereswilre) abbey[731]. "Gerhardus Silvester comes et frater eius Conradus, Gerlacus comes de Veldenzem et filius eius Gerlacus, Embricho Hirsutus comes et frater eius Conradus…" witnessed a charter dated 1186 under which the archbishop of Mainz confirmed an exchange involving Flonheim[732]. Graf von Kyrburg.
"m (before [1198/1202]) as her first husband, AGNES von Wittelsbach, daughter of OTTO [IV] Pfalzgraf of Bavaria & his wife Benedikta von Wörth (-5 Mar ----). 1172/1219. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "Albertum [filius comiti Alberto de Everstein ultra Coliniam]" as "neptem archiepiscopi Moguntini que fuerat comitissa Silvestris sororem scilicet illius comitis Ottonis de Withhelebac qui interfecit Philippum de Suavia"[733]. She married secondly ([1198/1202]) as his second wife, Albert [IV] Graf von Everstein. Another indication of her two marriages is provided by the charter dated 28 Jun 1253 under which [her grandson, son of her son by her first marriage] “Gerhardus...Maguntine sedis archiepiscopus” confirmed a donation made by [her son by her second marriage] “patruus noster Otto comes de Euerstein”[734]. "
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Wittelsbach 1): "E3. Agnes, fl 1172/1219; 1m: Gerhard I, Wildgf in Kyrburg; 2m: Gf Albrecht IV von Everstein."9
; Per Med Lands:
"AGNES (-5 Mar ----). 1172/1219. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "Albertum [filius comiti Alberto de Everstein ultra Coliniam]" as "neptem archiepiscopi Moguntini que fuerat comitissa Silvestris sororem scilicet illius comitis Ottonis de Withhelebac qui interfecit Philippum de Suavia"[872]. The primary source which confirms the name of her first husband has not yet been identified. Another indication of her two marriages is provided by the charter dated 28 Jun 1253 under which [her grandson, son of her son by her first marriage] “Gerhardus...Maguntine sedis archiepiscopus” confirmed a donation made by [her son by her second marriage] “patruus noster Otto comes de Euerstein”[873].
"m firstly GERHARD [I] Wildgraf und Graf von Kyrburg, son of KONRAD Wildgraf, Graf von Kyrburg & his wife Mathilde de Bar. 1172/98.
"m secondly ([1198/1202]) [as his second wife,] ALBERT [IV] Graf von Everstein, of ALBERT [III] Graf von Everstein & his wife Ryksa of Silesia (-19 Sep [1210/17])."
Med Lands cites:
;
Her 1st husband.2,4,5 Agnes (?) von Wittelsbach married Albrecht IV von Everstein Graf von Everstein, son of Albert III von Everstein Graf von Everstein and RixaRichildeRyksa (?) Princess of Silesia, Queen of Castile, between 1198 and 1202
;
Her 2nd husband.6,2,7,3
Agnes (?) von Wittelsbach died before 1219.2,3
; Per Med Lands:
"GERHARD [I], son of KONRAD Wildgraf, Graf von Kyrburg & his wife Mathilde de Bar (-after [1198/1202]). Wildgraf. “...Gerardus comes Silvaticus...” subscribed the charter dated 1172 under which “Ludovicus senior comes de Sarwerden...et frater meus Ludovicus” confirmed the foundation of Wœrschweiler (Wernereswilre) abbey[731]. "Gerhardus Silvester comes et frater eius Conradus, Gerlacus comes de Veldenzem et filius eius Gerlacus, Embricho Hirsutus comes et frater eius Conradus…" witnessed a charter dated 1186 under which the archbishop of Mainz confirmed an exchange involving Flonheim[732]. Graf von Kyrburg.
"m (before [1198/1202]) as her first husband, AGNES von Wittelsbach, daughter of OTTO [IV] Pfalzgraf of Bavaria & his wife Benedikta von Wörth (-5 Mar ----). 1172/1219. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "Albertum [filius comiti Alberto de Everstein ultra Coliniam]" as "neptem archiepiscopi Moguntini que fuerat comitissa Silvestris sororem scilicet illius comitis Ottonis de Withhelebac qui interfecit Philippum de Suavia"[733]. She married secondly ([1198/1202]) as his second wife, Albert [IV] Graf von Everstein. Another indication of her two marriages is provided by the charter dated 28 Jun 1253 under which [her grandson, son of her son by her first marriage] “Gerhardus...Maguntine sedis archiepiscopus” confirmed a donation made by [her son by her second marriage] “patruus noster Otto comes de Euerstein”[734]. "
Med Lands cites:
[731] Preuves de l´Histoire de Metz (1781), p. 134.
[732] Croll ´Graven von Veldenz´, Acta Academiæ Theodoro-Palatinæ (1770), Vol. II, p. 266, citation reference unclear.
[733] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1141, MGH SS XXIII, p. 834.
[734] Wilmans, R. & Finke, H. (eds.) (1874-1890) Westfälisches Urkundenbuch, Band IV (Münster) (“Westfälisches Urkundenburch Band IV”), Zweite Abteilung (1880), 538, p. 324.5
[732] Croll ´Graven von Veldenz´, Acta Academiæ Theodoro-Palatinæ (1770), Vol. II, p. 266, citation reference unclear.
[733] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1141, MGH SS XXIII, p. 834.
[734] Wilmans, R. & Finke, H. (eds.) (1874-1890) Westfälisches Urkundenbuch, Band IV (Münster) (“Westfälisches Urkundenburch Band IV”), Zweite Abteilung (1880), 538, p. 324.5
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Gens Nostra. 1991 689.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 1.1.90.8
Agnes (?) von Wittelsbach was also known as Agnes (?) Von Bayern.8 2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 1.1.90.8
; Per Genealogy.EU (Wittelsbach 1): "E3. Agnes, fl 1172/1219; 1m: Gerhard I, Wildgf in Kyrburg; 2m: Gf Albrecht IV von Everstein."9
; Per Med Lands:
"AGNES (-5 Mar ----). 1172/1219. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "Albertum [filius comiti Alberto de Everstein ultra Coliniam]" as "neptem archiepiscopi Moguntini que fuerat comitissa Silvestris sororem scilicet illius comitis Ottonis de Withhelebac qui interfecit Philippum de Suavia"[872]. The primary source which confirms the name of her first husband has not yet been identified. Another indication of her two marriages is provided by the charter dated 28 Jun 1253 under which [her grandson, son of her son by her first marriage] “Gerhardus...Maguntine sedis archiepiscopus” confirmed a donation made by [her son by her second marriage] “patruus noster Otto comes de Euerstein”[873].
"m firstly GERHARD [I] Wildgraf und Graf von Kyrburg, son of KONRAD Wildgraf, Graf von Kyrburg & his wife Mathilde de Bar. 1172/98.
"m secondly ([1198/1202]) [as his second wife,] ALBERT [IV] Graf von Everstein, of ALBERT [III] Graf von Everstein & his wife Ryksa of Silesia (-19 Sep [1210/17])."
Med Lands cites:
[872] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1141, MGH SS XXIII, p. 834.
[873] Wilmans, R. & Finke, H. (eds.) (1874-1890) Westfälisches Urkundenbuch, Band IV (Münster) (“Westfälisches Urkundenburch Band IV”), Zweite Abteilung (1880), 538, p. 324.3
[873] Wilmans, R. & Finke, H. (eds.) (1874-1890) Westfälisches Urkundenbuch, Band IV (Münster) (“Westfälisches Urkundenburch Band IV”), Zweite Abteilung (1880), 538, p. 324.3
Family 1 | Albrecht IV von Everstein Graf von Everstein d. 19 Sep 1210 |
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Family 2 | Gerhard I (?) Wildgraf und Graf von Kyrburg in Schmidtheim, comte palatin du Rhin d. a 1172 |
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Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Wittel 1 page - The House of Wittelsbach: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wittel/wittel1.html1
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00124852&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAVARIA.htm#AgnesM1GerhardKyrburgM2AlbrechtEverstein. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerhard I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00148883&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#GerhardWildgrafdiedafter1198B
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Albrecht: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00125081&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXON%20NOBILITY.htm#AlbertIVEversteindiedbefore1217B
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00124852&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Wittel 1 page - The House of Wittelsbach: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wittel/wittel1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hermann von Everstein: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00124847&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Wildgräfin Beatrix in Kirburg: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00021710&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#BeatrixWildgrafM2DirkValkenburg
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Konrad II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164597&tree=LEO
Emicho I (?) Graf von Kyrburg und von Schmitburg1
M, #60907, b. circa 1072, d. after 1136
Father | Goswin (?) Graf, Vogt von Kloster Sponheim2,1 |
Last Edited | 12 Dec 2020 |
Emicho I (?) Graf von Kyrburg und von Schmitburg was born circa 1072.1
Emicho I (?) Graf von Kyrburg und von Schmitburg died after 1136.3
; Per Med Lands:
"EMICH, son of --- (-after 1136). "Werinherus…comes et advocatus cenobii sancte crucis in Cofunga" donated "in Oggozeshusum mansum 1, in Crumbelbach mansos 2, Vennee 3 mansos…Ritte mansos 3…" to the abbess of Kaufungen by charter dated 1102, witnessed by "Bertholfus comes, Sigefrid palatinus comes, Emicho comes, Emicho comes, Gerlach comes, Udo comes"[705]. Emperor Lothar donated property to Epternach by charter dated 24 Apr 1131 witnessed by "…Gerlacus comes fraterque suus Imecho…"[706]. "…Emmecho comes et frater eius Gerlacus de Veldenz…" witnessed the charter dated 1136 which records an agreement between the canons of Trier St Simon and Bamberg St Georg concerning tithes in Hönningen[707].
"m ---. The name of Emich´s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Veldenz): “A2. Emicho I, Wildgraf, Gf von Schmidtburg, Kyrburg, Baumberg und Flonheim”.4
; Per Med Lands:
"EMICH, son of --- (-after 1136). "Werinherus…comes et advocatus cenobii sancte crucis in Cofunga" donated "in Oggozeshusum mansum 1, in Crumbelbach mansos 2, Vennee 3 mansos…Ritte mansos 3…" to the abbess of Kaufungen by charter dated 1102, witnessed by "Bertholfus comes, Sigefrid palatinus comes, Emicho comes, Emicho comes, Gerlach comes, Udo comes"[705]. Emperor Lothar donated property to Epternach by charter dated 24 Apr 1131 witnessed by "…Gerlacus comes fraterque suus Imecho…"[706]. "…Emmecho comes et frater eius Gerlacus de Veldenz…" witnessed the charter dated 1136 which records an agreement between the canons of Trier St Simon and Bamberg St Georg concerning tithes in Hönningen[707].
"m ---. The name of Emich´s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: IV 113.1
; Per Genealogics:
“Emicho I, Graf von Kyrburg und von Schmidtburg, was the son of Goswin, Graf von Sponheim and governor of Sponheim Abbey. By a daughter of Graf Emicho von Flonheim he had two sons, Conrad I and Emich I, who would both have progeny. Emicho was first recorded as count in Nahegau and later as Graf von Schmidtburg, Kyrburg, Baumberg und Flonheim. He was the builder of the castles Schmidtburg (in the Hahnenbach valley), Dhaun and Grumbach in the Hunsrück area of the Rhineland palatinate. One source gives 1123 as the year of Emicho's death.”.1
; Per Med Lands:
"The county of Veldenz lay south of the county of Sponheim and the Rheingrafschaft, south-east of the river Mosel, its territory lying around the town of Lichtenberg, although the town of Veldenz itself lay within the lay jurisdiction of the archbishopric of Trier. The county originally formed part of the county of Nahegau. Croll studied the first dynasty of the Grafen von Veldenz in the 18th century and concluded that they probably descended from the Grafen im Nahegau (see FRANCONIA) and in whose family the names Emich and Gerlach are repeated[1023]. It is not impossible that Gerlach [I] Graf von Veldenz and his brother Emich, ancestor of the Wildgrafen, were the same persons as Graf Emich (named in various sources dated between 1108 and 1135 as Graf im Nahegau, Graf von Schmidburg and Graf von Kirburg) and his brother Gerlach. The mentions of the two sets of brothers cover approximately the same period, and no other record has been identified of the marriages and descendants of Graf Emich im Nahegau and his brother Gerlach. The only apparent difficulty is that most sources, in which the brothers are named together, name the Veldenz brothers in a different order from the Nahegau/Schmidburg brothers, which suggests a different order of seniority by age. Another possibility is that the Veldenz brothers were first cousins of the Nahegau/Schmidburg brothers, maybe sons of an otherwise unrecorded sister.
"The primary sources reveal five successive counts of Veldenz named Gerlach between the 1130s and the mid-13th century. Given the birth of Graf Gerlach [V], dated to after 1228, the chronology suggests that these five counts belonged to at least five successive generations. However, it should be noted that no primary sources have yet been identified which confirm the parentage of either Graf Gerlach [II] or Graf Gerlach [IV]. On the basis of our current knowledge, it cannot therefore be confirmed that these five counts represented a continuous succession from father to son. Little information about the lives and careers of the Grafen von Veldenz is gleaned from the primary sources, apart from their enjoyment of a prominent position in the courts of both the archbishop of Mainz and the archbishop of Trier, at least throughout most of the 12th century, as shown by their witnessing numerous imperial and archiepiscopal charters. The county of Veldenz was closely linked to the church of Verdun whose ownership of property within the county is recorded in several sources. Laurence of Laon´s Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium records that Richer Bishop of Verdun travelled northwards along the river Mosel "ad Valdentiam alodium ecclesiæ" where he died in 1107[1024]. Emperor Friedrich I confirmed the privileges of the church of Verdun by charter dated 17 Aug 1156, which lists "Valdentiam…castrum cum advocatia et banno" among the church´s possessions[1025]. Graf Gerlach [IV] confirmed his allegiance to the bishop of Verdun for his castle in 1235. No primary source has yet been identified which shows that the Veldenz comital family founded a specific monastic establishment themselves or that they enjoyed a continuous association with one particular church or abbey. No indication has yet been found of the identities of the wives of Graf Gerlach [II] or Graf Gerlach [III], although they presumably belonged to prominent local Franconian comital families as judged by the known marriages of the three other counts named Gerlach. The heiress of Graf Gerlach [V] married the Swabian nobleman Heinrich von Geroldseck in the late 1260s. The couple were ancestors of the second dynasty of Grafen von Veldenz (not treated in the present document) until its extinction in the male line in 1444, when the county passed to Stefan Pfalzgraf in Simmern und Zweibrücken who had married the heiress, and through whom he also succeeded in reuniting the frequently divided territories of the county of Sponheim."
Med Lands cites:
Emicho I (?) Graf von Kyrburg und von Schmitburg died after 1136.3
; Per Med Lands:
"EMICH, son of --- (-after 1136). "Werinherus…comes et advocatus cenobii sancte crucis in Cofunga" donated "in Oggozeshusum mansum 1, in Crumbelbach mansos 2, Vennee 3 mansos…Ritte mansos 3…" to the abbess of Kaufungen by charter dated 1102, witnessed by "Bertholfus comes, Sigefrid palatinus comes, Emicho comes, Emicho comes, Gerlach comes, Udo comes"[705]. Emperor Lothar donated property to Epternach by charter dated 24 Apr 1131 witnessed by "…Gerlacus comes fraterque suus Imecho…"[706]. "…Emmecho comes et frater eius Gerlacus de Veldenz…" witnessed the charter dated 1136 which records an agreement between the canons of Trier St Simon and Bamberg St Georg concerning tithes in Hönningen[707].
"m ---. The name of Emich´s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
[705] Kaufungen, Band I, 20, p. 26.
[706] Hontheim, J. N. von (1750) Historia Trevirensis Diplomatica et Pragmatica, Tome I ("Trier Diplomatica (Hontheim)"), Tome I, CCCXLIII, p. 516.
[707] Trier Diplomatica (Hontheim), Tome I, CCCLVII, p. 532.3
[706] Hontheim, J. N. von (1750) Historia Trevirensis Diplomatica et Pragmatica, Tome I ("Trier Diplomatica (Hontheim)"), Tome I, CCCXLIII, p. 516.
[707] Trier Diplomatica (Hontheim), Tome I, CCCLVII, p. 532.3
; Per Genealogy.EU (Veldenz): “A2. Emicho I, Wildgraf, Gf von Schmidtburg, Kyrburg, Baumberg und Flonheim”.4
; Per Med Lands:
"EMICH, son of --- (-after 1136). "Werinherus…comes et advocatus cenobii sancte crucis in Cofunga" donated "in Oggozeshusum mansum 1, in Crumbelbach mansos 2, Vennee 3 mansos…Ritte mansos 3…" to the abbess of Kaufungen by charter dated 1102, witnessed by "Bertholfus comes, Sigefrid palatinus comes, Emicho comes, Emicho comes, Gerlach comes, Udo comes"[705]. Emperor Lothar donated property to Epternach by charter dated 24 Apr 1131 witnessed by "…Gerlacus comes fraterque suus Imecho…"[706]. "…Emmecho comes et frater eius Gerlacus de Veldenz…" witnessed the charter dated 1136 which records an agreement between the canons of Trier St Simon and Bamberg St Georg concerning tithes in Hönningen[707].
"m ---. The name of Emich´s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
[705] Kaufungen, Band I, 20, p. 26.
[706] Hontheim, J. N. von (1750) Historia Trevirensis Diplomatica et Pragmatica, Tome I ("Trier Diplomatica (Hontheim)"), Tome I, CCCXLIII, p. 516.
[707] Trier Diplomatica (Hontheim), Tome I, CCCLVII, p. 532.3
[706] Hontheim, J. N. von (1750) Historia Trevirensis Diplomatica et Pragmatica, Tome I ("Trier Diplomatica (Hontheim)"), Tome I, CCCXLIII, p. 516.
[707] Trier Diplomatica (Hontheim), Tome I, CCCLVII, p. 532.3
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: IV 113.1
; Per Genealogics:
“Emicho I, Graf von Kyrburg und von Schmidtburg, was the son of Goswin, Graf von Sponheim and governor of Sponheim Abbey. By a daughter of Graf Emicho von Flonheim he had two sons, Conrad I and Emich I, who would both have progeny. Emicho was first recorded as count in Nahegau and later as Graf von Schmidtburg, Kyrburg, Baumberg und Flonheim. He was the builder of the castles Schmidtburg (in the Hahnenbach valley), Dhaun and Grumbach in the Hunsrück area of the Rhineland palatinate. One source gives 1123 as the year of Emicho's death.”.1
; Per Med Lands:
"The county of Veldenz lay south of the county of Sponheim and the Rheingrafschaft, south-east of the river Mosel, its territory lying around the town of Lichtenberg, although the town of Veldenz itself lay within the lay jurisdiction of the archbishopric of Trier. The county originally formed part of the county of Nahegau. Croll studied the first dynasty of the Grafen von Veldenz in the 18th century and concluded that they probably descended from the Grafen im Nahegau (see FRANCONIA) and in whose family the names Emich and Gerlach are repeated[1023]. It is not impossible that Gerlach [I] Graf von Veldenz and his brother Emich, ancestor of the Wildgrafen, were the same persons as Graf Emich (named in various sources dated between 1108 and 1135 as Graf im Nahegau, Graf von Schmidburg and Graf von Kirburg) and his brother Gerlach. The mentions of the two sets of brothers cover approximately the same period, and no other record has been identified of the marriages and descendants of Graf Emich im Nahegau and his brother Gerlach. The only apparent difficulty is that most sources, in which the brothers are named together, name the Veldenz brothers in a different order from the Nahegau/Schmidburg brothers, which suggests a different order of seniority by age. Another possibility is that the Veldenz brothers were first cousins of the Nahegau/Schmidburg brothers, maybe sons of an otherwise unrecorded sister.
"The primary sources reveal five successive counts of Veldenz named Gerlach between the 1130s and the mid-13th century. Given the birth of Graf Gerlach [V], dated to after 1228, the chronology suggests that these five counts belonged to at least five successive generations. However, it should be noted that no primary sources have yet been identified which confirm the parentage of either Graf Gerlach [II] or Graf Gerlach [IV]. On the basis of our current knowledge, it cannot therefore be confirmed that these five counts represented a continuous succession from father to son. Little information about the lives and careers of the Grafen von Veldenz is gleaned from the primary sources, apart from their enjoyment of a prominent position in the courts of both the archbishop of Mainz and the archbishop of Trier, at least throughout most of the 12th century, as shown by their witnessing numerous imperial and archiepiscopal charters. The county of Veldenz was closely linked to the church of Verdun whose ownership of property within the county is recorded in several sources. Laurence of Laon´s Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium records that Richer Bishop of Verdun travelled northwards along the river Mosel "ad Valdentiam alodium ecclesiæ" where he died in 1107[1024]. Emperor Friedrich I confirmed the privileges of the church of Verdun by charter dated 17 Aug 1156, which lists "Valdentiam…castrum cum advocatia et banno" among the church´s possessions[1025]. Graf Gerlach [IV] confirmed his allegiance to the bishop of Verdun for his castle in 1235. No primary source has yet been identified which shows that the Veldenz comital family founded a specific monastic establishment themselves or that they enjoyed a continuous association with one particular church or abbey. No indication has yet been found of the identities of the wives of Graf Gerlach [II] or Graf Gerlach [III], although they presumably belonged to prominent local Franconian comital families as judged by the known marriages of the three other counts named Gerlach. The heiress of Graf Gerlach [V] married the Swabian nobleman Heinrich von Geroldseck in the late 1260s. The couple were ancestors of the second dynasty of Grafen von Veldenz (not treated in the present document) until its extinction in the male line in 1444, when the county passed to Stefan Pfalzgraf in Simmern und Zweibrücken who had married the heiress, and through whom he also succeeded in reuniting the frequently divided territories of the county of Sponheim."
Med Lands cites:
[1023] Croll, G. C. ´Vorlesung von dem ersten Geschlecht der alten Graven von Veldenz´, Acta Academiæ Theodoro-Palatinæ (1770), Vol. II, pp. 241-305, 258.
[1024] Laurentii Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium, 13, MGH SS X, p. 499.
[1025] MGH Diplomata, Tome X, Pars I, DD F I, 149, p. 252.5
[1024] Laurentii Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium, 13, MGH SS X, p. 499.
[1025] MGH Diplomata, Tome X, Pars I, DD F I, 149, p. 252.5
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Emicho I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00148888&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Goswin: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164775&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#EmichoWildgrafdiedafter1134B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Veldenz1: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/veldenz/veldenz1.html#G1
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#_Toc510977915
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Emich I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00148886&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Emicho I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00148888&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Bar, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#KonradWildgrafdiedafter1170
Emich I (?) Graf von Naumburg/Neuenburg1
M, #60908
Father | Emicho I (?) Graf von Kyrburg und von Schmitburg1,2,3,4 b. c 1072, d. a 1136 |
Last Edited | 17 Jul 2020 |
Reference: Genealogics cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: III 144.1 Emich I (?) Graf von Naumburg/Neuenburg was living in 1146.1
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Emich I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00148886&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Emicho I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00148888&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Veldenz1: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/veldenz/veldenz1.html#G1
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#EmichoWildgrafdiedafter1134B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Goswin (?) Graf, Vogt von Kloster Sponheim1
M, #60909
Last Edited | 29 Oct 2020 |
; Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: IV 113.1 Goswin (?) Graf, Vogt von Kloster Sponheim was living in 1124.1
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Goswin: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164775&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerlach I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164776&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#_Toc510977915. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Emicho I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00148888&tree=LEO
Gerlach I (?) Count von Veldenz1
M, #60910, d. before 1141
Father | Goswin (?) Graf, Vogt von Kloster Sponheim2,1,3 |
Last Edited | 17 Jul 2020 |
Gerlach I (?) Count von Veldenz married Cäcilie (?) von Thüringen, daughter of Ludwig "der Salier" von Thuringen Graf von Thuringen and Adelheid von Stade.4,1,5,3
Gerlach I (?) Count von Veldenz died before 1141.3
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: IV 113.1
; Per Med Lands:
"The county of Veldenz lay south of the county of Sponheim and the Rheingrafschaft, south-east of the river Mosel, its territory lying around the town of Lichtenberg, although the town of Veldenz itself lay within the lay jurisdiction of the archbishopric of Trier. The county originally formed part of the county of Nahegau. Croll studied the first dynasty of the Grafen von Veldenz in the 18th century and concluded that they probably descended from the Grafen im Nahegau (see FRANCONIA) and in whose family the names Emich and Gerlach are repeated[1023]. It is not impossible that Gerlach [I] Graf von Veldenz and his brother Emich, ancestor of the Wildgrafen, were the same persons as Graf Emich (named in various sources dated between 1108 and 1135 as Graf im Nahegau, Graf von Schmidburg and Graf von Kirburg) and his brother Gerlach. The mentions of the two sets of brothers cover approximately the same period, and no other record has been identified of the marriages and descendants of Graf Emich im Nahegau and his brother Gerlach. The only apparent difficulty is that most sources, in which the brothers are named together, name the Veldenz brothers in a different order from the Nahegau/Schmidburg brothers, which suggests a different order of seniority by age. Another possibility is that the Veldenz brothers were first cousins of the Nahegau/Schmidburg brothers, maybe sons of an otherwise unrecorded sister.
"The primary sources reveal five successive counts of Veldenz named Gerlach between the 1130s and the mid-13th century. Given the birth of Graf Gerlach [V], dated to after 1228, the chronology suggests that these five counts belonged to at least five successive generations. However, it should be noted that no primary sources have yet been identified which confirm the parentage of either Graf Gerlach [II] or Graf Gerlach [IV]. On the basis of our current knowledge, it cannot therefore be confirmed that these five counts represented a continuous succession from father to son. Little information about the lives and careers of the Grafen von Veldenz is gleaned from the primary sources, apart from their enjoyment of a prominent position in the courts of both the archbishop of Mainz and the archbishop of Trier, at least throughout most of the 12th century, as shown by their witnessing numerous imperial and archiepiscopal charters. The county of Veldenz was closely linked to the church of Verdun whose ownership of property within the county is recorded in several sources. Laurence of Laon´s Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium records that Richer Bishop of Verdun travelled northwards along the river Mosel "ad Valdentiam alodium ecclesiæ" where he died in 1107[1024]. Emperor Friedrich I confirmed the privileges of the church of Verdun by charter dated 17 Aug 1156, which lists "Valdentiam…castrum cum advocatia et banno" among the church´s possessions[1025]. Graf Gerlach [IV] confirmed his allegiance to the bishop of Verdun for his castle in 1235. No primary source has yet been identified which shows that the Veldenz comital family founded a specific monastic establishment themselves or that they enjoyed a continuous association with one particular church or abbey. No indication has yet been found of the identities of the wives of Graf Gerlach [II] or Graf Gerlach [III], although they presumably belonged to prominent local Franconian comital families as judged by the known marriages of the three other counts named Gerlach. The heiress of Graf Gerlach [V] married the Swabian nobleman Heinrich von Geroldseck in the late 1260s. The couple were ancestors of the second dynasty of Grafen von Veldenz (not treated in the present document) until its extinction in the male line in 1444, when the county passed to Stefan Pfalzgraf in Simmern und Zweibrücken who had married the heiress, and through whom he also succeeded in reuniting the frequently divided territories of the county of Sponheim."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"GERLACH [I] (-before 1141). "Werinherus…comes et advocatus cenobii sancte crucis in Cofunga" donated "in Oggozeshusum mansum 1, in Crumbelbach mansos 2, Vennee 3 mansos…Ritte mansos 3…" to the abbess of Kaufungen by charter dated 1102, witnessed by "Bertholfus comes, Sigefrid palatinus comes, Emicho comes, Emicho comes, Gerlach comes, Udo comes"[1026]. "Arnoldus comes, Gerlahus comes, Embricho vicedominus…" witnessed the charter dated 1119, before 15 Aug, under which Adalbert Archbishop of Mainz granted property to Stift St Maria at Mainz[1027]. "…Gerlachus Comes de Feldenzun…" witnessed the charter dated 1130 under which Adalbert Archbishop of Mainz confirmed donations to Mainz[1028]. "…Gerlacus de Veldence…" witnessed the charter dated 1131 under which Adalbert Archbishop of Mainz confirmed the donation of "villa Woverebach…in pago Wetereiba in comitatu Bertoldi comitis de Nuringe" to Mainz[1029]. Emperor Lothar donated property to Epternach by charter dated 24 Apr 1131 witnessed by "…Gerlacus comes fraterque suus Imecho…"[1030]. "…Emmecho comes et frater eius Gerlacus de Veldenz…" witnessed the charter dated 1136 which records an agreement between the canons of Trier St Simon and Bamberg St Georg concerning tithes in Hönningen[1031].
"m CÄCILIE von Thüringen, daughter of LUDWIG "der Salier/der Springer" Graf in Thüringen & his [second] wife Adelheid von Stade (-1141, bur Reinhardsbrunn). The Historia Brevis Principum Thuringiæ names (in order) "Cunegundim, Ceciliam, Adelheidim" as the three daughters of "Ludewicus comes" & his wife Adelheid[1032]. The Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis names "Ceciliam" as second daughter of Graf Ludwig & his wife, recording that she married "comes de Weldense Gerlacus" and that by him she was mother of "Udonem minorem Cycensem episcopum"[1033]. The Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis records the death in 1141 of "Cecilia filia comitis Ludewici primi…relicta comitis Gerlaci" and her burial at Reinhardsbrunn[1034]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"CÄCILIE (-1141, bur Reinhardsbrunn). The Historia Brevis Principum Thuringiæ names (in order) "Cunegundim, Ceciliam, Adelheidim" as the three daughters of "Ludewicus comes" & his wife Adelheid[124]. The Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis names "Ceciliam" as second daughter of Graf Ludwig & his wife, recording that she married "comes de Weldense Gerlacus" and that by him she was mother of "Udonem minorem Cycensem episcopum"[125]. The Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis records the death in 1141 of "Cecilia filia comitis Ludewici primi…relicta comitis Gerlaci" and her burial at Reinhardsbrunn[126].
"m GERLACH [I] Graf von Veldenz, son of --- (-before 1141)."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Thuringia): “B7. Caecilie, +1141; m.Gf Gerlach I von Veldenz”
Per Genealogy.EU (Veldenz 1): “A1. Gf Gerlach I von Veldenz, living 1146; m.Cäcilie of Thuringia (+1141)”.5,7 He was living in 1124.1
Gerlach I (?) Count von Veldenz died before 1141.3
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: IV 113.1
; Per Med Lands:
"The county of Veldenz lay south of the county of Sponheim and the Rheingrafschaft, south-east of the river Mosel, its territory lying around the town of Lichtenberg, although the town of Veldenz itself lay within the lay jurisdiction of the archbishopric of Trier. The county originally formed part of the county of Nahegau. Croll studied the first dynasty of the Grafen von Veldenz in the 18th century and concluded that they probably descended from the Grafen im Nahegau (see FRANCONIA) and in whose family the names Emich and Gerlach are repeated[1023]. It is not impossible that Gerlach [I] Graf von Veldenz and his brother Emich, ancestor of the Wildgrafen, were the same persons as Graf Emich (named in various sources dated between 1108 and 1135 as Graf im Nahegau, Graf von Schmidburg and Graf von Kirburg) and his brother Gerlach. The mentions of the two sets of brothers cover approximately the same period, and no other record has been identified of the marriages and descendants of Graf Emich im Nahegau and his brother Gerlach. The only apparent difficulty is that most sources, in which the brothers are named together, name the Veldenz brothers in a different order from the Nahegau/Schmidburg brothers, which suggests a different order of seniority by age. Another possibility is that the Veldenz brothers were first cousins of the Nahegau/Schmidburg brothers, maybe sons of an otherwise unrecorded sister.
"The primary sources reveal five successive counts of Veldenz named Gerlach between the 1130s and the mid-13th century. Given the birth of Graf Gerlach [V], dated to after 1228, the chronology suggests that these five counts belonged to at least five successive generations. However, it should be noted that no primary sources have yet been identified which confirm the parentage of either Graf Gerlach [II] or Graf Gerlach [IV]. On the basis of our current knowledge, it cannot therefore be confirmed that these five counts represented a continuous succession from father to son. Little information about the lives and careers of the Grafen von Veldenz is gleaned from the primary sources, apart from their enjoyment of a prominent position in the courts of both the archbishop of Mainz and the archbishop of Trier, at least throughout most of the 12th century, as shown by their witnessing numerous imperial and archiepiscopal charters. The county of Veldenz was closely linked to the church of Verdun whose ownership of property within the county is recorded in several sources. Laurence of Laon´s Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium records that Richer Bishop of Verdun travelled northwards along the river Mosel "ad Valdentiam alodium ecclesiæ" where he died in 1107[1024]. Emperor Friedrich I confirmed the privileges of the church of Verdun by charter dated 17 Aug 1156, which lists "Valdentiam…castrum cum advocatia et banno" among the church´s possessions[1025]. Graf Gerlach [IV] confirmed his allegiance to the bishop of Verdun for his castle in 1235. No primary source has yet been identified which shows that the Veldenz comital family founded a specific monastic establishment themselves or that they enjoyed a continuous association with one particular church or abbey. No indication has yet been found of the identities of the wives of Graf Gerlach [II] or Graf Gerlach [III], although they presumably belonged to prominent local Franconian comital families as judged by the known marriages of the three other counts named Gerlach. The heiress of Graf Gerlach [V] married the Swabian nobleman Heinrich von Geroldseck in the late 1260s. The couple were ancestors of the second dynasty of Grafen von Veldenz (not treated in the present document) until its extinction in the male line in 1444, when the county passed to Stefan Pfalzgraf in Simmern und Zweibrücken who had married the heiress, and through whom he also succeeded in reuniting the frequently divided territories of the county of Sponheim."
Med Lands cites:
[1023] Croll, G. C. ´Vorlesung von dem ersten Geschlecht der alten Graven von Veldenz´, Acta Academiæ Theodoro-Palatinæ (1770), Vol. II, pp. 241-305, 258.
[1024] Laurentii Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium, 13, MGH SS X, p. 499.
[1025] MGH Diplomata, Tome X, Pars I, DD F I, 149, p. 252.3
[1024] Laurentii Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium, 13, MGH SS X, p. 499.
[1025] MGH Diplomata, Tome X, Pars I, DD F I, 149, p. 252.3
; Per Med Lands:
"GERLACH [I] (-before 1141). "Werinherus…comes et advocatus cenobii sancte crucis in Cofunga" donated "in Oggozeshusum mansum 1, in Crumbelbach mansos 2, Vennee 3 mansos…Ritte mansos 3…" to the abbess of Kaufungen by charter dated 1102, witnessed by "Bertholfus comes, Sigefrid palatinus comes, Emicho comes, Emicho comes, Gerlach comes, Udo comes"[1026]. "Arnoldus comes, Gerlahus comes, Embricho vicedominus…" witnessed the charter dated 1119, before 15 Aug, under which Adalbert Archbishop of Mainz granted property to Stift St Maria at Mainz[1027]. "…Gerlachus Comes de Feldenzun…" witnessed the charter dated 1130 under which Adalbert Archbishop of Mainz confirmed donations to Mainz[1028]. "…Gerlacus de Veldence…" witnessed the charter dated 1131 under which Adalbert Archbishop of Mainz confirmed the donation of "villa Woverebach…in pago Wetereiba in comitatu Bertoldi comitis de Nuringe" to Mainz[1029]. Emperor Lothar donated property to Epternach by charter dated 24 Apr 1131 witnessed by "…Gerlacus comes fraterque suus Imecho…"[1030]. "…Emmecho comes et frater eius Gerlacus de Veldenz…" witnessed the charter dated 1136 which records an agreement between the canons of Trier St Simon and Bamberg St Georg concerning tithes in Hönningen[1031].
"m CÄCILIE von Thüringen, daughter of LUDWIG "der Salier/der Springer" Graf in Thüringen & his [second] wife Adelheid von Stade (-1141, bur Reinhardsbrunn). The Historia Brevis Principum Thuringiæ names (in order) "Cunegundim, Ceciliam, Adelheidim" as the three daughters of "Ludewicus comes" & his wife Adelheid[1032]. The Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis names "Ceciliam" as second daughter of Graf Ludwig & his wife, recording that she married "comes de Weldense Gerlacus" and that by him she was mother of "Udonem minorem Cycensem episcopum"[1033]. The Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis records the death in 1141 of "Cecilia filia comitis Ludewici primi…relicta comitis Gerlaci" and her burial at Reinhardsbrunn[1034]."
Med Lands cites:
[1026] Kaufungen, Band I, 20, p. 26.
[1027] Codex diplomaticus Nassoicus, Band I, Part 1, 169, p. 98.
[1028] Gudenus (1743), Tome I, XXXII, p. 84
[1029] Gudenus (1743), Tome I, XXXVII, p. 98
[1030] Hontheim, J. N. von (1750) Historia Trevirensis Diplomatica et Pragmatica, Tome I ("Trier Diplomatica (Hontheim)"), CCCXLIII, p. 516.
[1031] Trier Diplomatica (Hontheim), Tome I, CCCLVII, p. 532.
[1032] Historia Brevis Principum Thuringiæ 7, MGH SS XXIV, p. 821.
[1033] Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis 1065, MGH SS XXX.1, p. 523.
[1034] Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis 1141, MGH SS XXX.1, p. 535.3
[1027] Codex diplomaticus Nassoicus, Band I, Part 1, 169, p. 98.
[1028] Gudenus (1743), Tome I, XXXII, p. 84
[1029] Gudenus (1743), Tome I, XXXVII, p. 98
[1030] Hontheim, J. N. von (1750) Historia Trevirensis Diplomatica et Pragmatica, Tome I ("Trier Diplomatica (Hontheim)"), CCCXLIII, p. 516.
[1031] Trier Diplomatica (Hontheim), Tome I, CCCLVII, p. 532.
[1032] Historia Brevis Principum Thuringiæ 7, MGH SS XXIV, p. 821.
[1033] Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis 1065, MGH SS XXX.1, p. 523.
[1034] Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis 1141, MGH SS XXX.1, p. 535.3
; Per Med Lands:
"CÄCILIE (-1141, bur Reinhardsbrunn). The Historia Brevis Principum Thuringiæ names (in order) "Cunegundim, Ceciliam, Adelheidim" as the three daughters of "Ludewicus comes" & his wife Adelheid[124]. The Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis names "Ceciliam" as second daughter of Graf Ludwig & his wife, recording that she married "comes de Weldense Gerlacus" and that by him she was mother of "Udonem minorem Cycensem episcopum"[125]. The Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis records the death in 1141 of "Cecilia filia comitis Ludewici primi…relicta comitis Gerlaci" and her burial at Reinhardsbrunn[126].
"m GERLACH [I] Graf von Veldenz, son of --- (-before 1141)."
Med Lands cites:
[124] Historia Brevis Principum Thuringiæ 7, MGH SS XXIV, p. 821.
[125] Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis 1065, MGH SS XXX.1, p. 523.
[126] Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis 1141, MGH SS XXX.1, p. 535.6
[125] Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis 1065, MGH SS XXX.1, p. 523.
[126] Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis 1141, MGH SS XXX.1, p. 535.6
; Per Genealogy.EU (Thuringia): “B7. Caecilie, +1141; m.Gf Gerlach I von Veldenz”
Per Genealogy.EU (Veldenz 1): “A1. Gf Gerlach I von Veldenz, living 1146; m.Cäcilie of Thuringia (+1141)”.5,7 He was living in 1124.1
Family | Cäcilie (?) von Thüringen d. 1141 |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerlach I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164776&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Goswin: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164775&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#_Toc510977915. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Thuring page - Landgraves of Thuringia: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/thuring/thuring.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Thuring page - Landgraves of Thuringia: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/thuring/thuring.html
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/THURINGIA.htm#Caeciliedied1141
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Veldenz1: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/veldenz/veldenz1.html#G1
Cäcilie (?) von Thüringen1,2
F, #60911, d. 1141
Father | Ludwig "der Salier" von Thuringen Graf von Thuringen3,4,1,5 d. c 6 May 1123 |
Mother | Adelheid von Stade2,6,4,5 b. c 1060, d. bt 18 Oct 1110 - 17 Nov 1110 |
Last Edited | 17 Jul 2020 |
Cäcilie (?) von Thüringen married Gerlach I (?) Count von Veldenz, son of Goswin (?) Graf, Vogt von Kloster Sponheim.2,7,4,8
Cäcilie (?) von Thüringen died in 1141.2,4,5
Cäcilie (?) von Thüringen was buried in 1141 at Kloster Reinhardsbrunn, Landkreis Gotha, Thüringen, Germany.5
; Per Med Lands:
"GERLACH [I] (-before 1141). "Werinherus…comes et advocatus cenobii sancte crucis in Cofunga" donated "in Oggozeshusum mansum 1, in Crumbelbach mansos 2, Vennee 3 mansos…Ritte mansos 3…" to the abbess of Kaufungen by charter dated 1102, witnessed by "Bertholfus comes, Sigefrid palatinus comes, Emicho comes, Emicho comes, Gerlach comes, Udo comes"[1026]. "Arnoldus comes, Gerlahus comes, Embricho vicedominus…" witnessed the charter dated 1119, before 15 Aug, under which Adalbert Archbishop of Mainz granted property to Stift St Maria at Mainz[1027]. "…Gerlachus Comes de Feldenzun…" witnessed the charter dated 1130 under which Adalbert Archbishop of Mainz confirmed donations to Mainz[1028]. "…Gerlacus de Veldence…" witnessed the charter dated 1131 under which Adalbert Archbishop of Mainz confirmed the donation of "villa Woverebach…in pago Wetereiba in comitatu Bertoldi comitis de Nuringe" to Mainz[1029]. Emperor Lothar donated property to Epternach by charter dated 24 Apr 1131 witnessed by "…Gerlacus comes fraterque suus Imecho…"[1030]. "…Emmecho comes et frater eius Gerlacus de Veldenz…" witnessed the charter dated 1136 which records an agreement between the canons of Trier St Simon and Bamberg St Georg concerning tithes in Hönningen[1031].
"m CÄCILIE von Thüringen, daughter of LUDWIG "der Salier/der Springer" Graf in Thüringen & his [second] wife Adelheid von Stade (-1141, bur Reinhardsbrunn). The Historia Brevis Principum Thuringiæ names (in order) "Cunegundim, Ceciliam, Adelheidim" as the three daughters of "Ludewicus comes" & his wife Adelheid[1032]. The Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis names "Ceciliam" as second daughter of Graf Ludwig & his wife, recording that she married "comes de Weldense Gerlacus" and that by him she was mother of "Udonem minorem Cycensem episcopum"[1033]. The Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis records the death in 1141 of "Cecilia filia comitis Ludewici primi…relicta comitis Gerlaci" and her burial at Reinhardsbrunn[1034]."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: IV 113.4
; Per Med Lands:
"CÄCILIE (-1141, bur Reinhardsbrunn). The Historia Brevis Principum Thuringiæ names (in order) "Cunegundim, Ceciliam, Adelheidim" as the three daughters of "Ludewicus comes" & his wife Adelheid[124]. The Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis names "Ceciliam" as second daughter of Graf Ludwig & his wife, recording that she married "comes de Weldense Gerlacus" and that by him she was mother of "Udonem minorem Cycensem episcopum"[125]. The Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis records the death in 1141 of "Cecilia filia comitis Ludewici primi…relicta comitis Gerlaci" and her burial at Reinhardsbrunn[126].
"m GERLACH [I] Graf von Veldenz, son of --- (-before 1141)."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Thuringia): “B7. Caecilie, +1141; m.Gf Gerlach I von Veldenz”
Per Genealogy.EU (Veldenz 1): “A1. Gf Gerlach I von Veldenz, living 1146; m.Cäcilie of Thuringia (+1141)”.4,9
Cäcilie (?) von Thüringen died in 1141.2,4,5
Cäcilie (?) von Thüringen was buried in 1141 at Kloster Reinhardsbrunn, Landkreis Gotha, Thüringen, Germany.5
; Per Med Lands:
"GERLACH [I] (-before 1141). "Werinherus…comes et advocatus cenobii sancte crucis in Cofunga" donated "in Oggozeshusum mansum 1, in Crumbelbach mansos 2, Vennee 3 mansos…Ritte mansos 3…" to the abbess of Kaufungen by charter dated 1102, witnessed by "Bertholfus comes, Sigefrid palatinus comes, Emicho comes, Emicho comes, Gerlach comes, Udo comes"[1026]. "Arnoldus comes, Gerlahus comes, Embricho vicedominus…" witnessed the charter dated 1119, before 15 Aug, under which Adalbert Archbishop of Mainz granted property to Stift St Maria at Mainz[1027]. "…Gerlachus Comes de Feldenzun…" witnessed the charter dated 1130 under which Adalbert Archbishop of Mainz confirmed donations to Mainz[1028]. "…Gerlacus de Veldence…" witnessed the charter dated 1131 under which Adalbert Archbishop of Mainz confirmed the donation of "villa Woverebach…in pago Wetereiba in comitatu Bertoldi comitis de Nuringe" to Mainz[1029]. Emperor Lothar donated property to Epternach by charter dated 24 Apr 1131 witnessed by "…Gerlacus comes fraterque suus Imecho…"[1030]. "…Emmecho comes et frater eius Gerlacus de Veldenz…" witnessed the charter dated 1136 which records an agreement between the canons of Trier St Simon and Bamberg St Georg concerning tithes in Hönningen[1031].
"m CÄCILIE von Thüringen, daughter of LUDWIG "der Salier/der Springer" Graf in Thüringen & his [second] wife Adelheid von Stade (-1141, bur Reinhardsbrunn). The Historia Brevis Principum Thuringiæ names (in order) "Cunegundim, Ceciliam, Adelheidim" as the three daughters of "Ludewicus comes" & his wife Adelheid[1032]. The Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis names "Ceciliam" as second daughter of Graf Ludwig & his wife, recording that she married "comes de Weldense Gerlacus" and that by him she was mother of "Udonem minorem Cycensem episcopum"[1033]. The Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis records the death in 1141 of "Cecilia filia comitis Ludewici primi…relicta comitis Gerlaci" and her burial at Reinhardsbrunn[1034]."
Med Lands cites:
[1026] Kaufungen, Band I, 20, p. 26.
[1027] Codex diplomaticus Nassoicus, Band I, Part 1, 169, p. 98.
[1028] Gudenus (1743), Tome I, XXXII, p. 84
[1029] Gudenus (1743), Tome I, XXXVII, p. 98
[1030] Hontheim, J. N. von (1750) Historia Trevirensis Diplomatica et Pragmatica, Tome I ("Trier Diplomatica (Hontheim)"), CCCXLIII, p. 516.
[1031] Trier Diplomatica (Hontheim), Tome I, CCCLVII, p. 532.
[1032] Historia Brevis Principum Thuringiæ 7, MGH SS XXIV, p. 821.
[1033] Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis 1065, MGH SS XXX.1, p. 523.
[1034] Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis 1141, MGH SS XXX.1, p. 535.8
[1027] Codex diplomaticus Nassoicus, Band I, Part 1, 169, p. 98.
[1028] Gudenus (1743), Tome I, XXXII, p. 84
[1029] Gudenus (1743), Tome I, XXXVII, p. 98
[1030] Hontheim, J. N. von (1750) Historia Trevirensis Diplomatica et Pragmatica, Tome I ("Trier Diplomatica (Hontheim)"), CCCXLIII, p. 516.
[1031] Trier Diplomatica (Hontheim), Tome I, CCCLVII, p. 532.
[1032] Historia Brevis Principum Thuringiæ 7, MGH SS XXIV, p. 821.
[1033] Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis 1065, MGH SS XXX.1, p. 523.
[1034] Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis 1141, MGH SS XXX.1, p. 535.8
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: IV 113.4
; Per Med Lands:
"CÄCILIE (-1141, bur Reinhardsbrunn). The Historia Brevis Principum Thuringiæ names (in order) "Cunegundim, Ceciliam, Adelheidim" as the three daughters of "Ludewicus comes" & his wife Adelheid[124]. The Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis names "Ceciliam" as second daughter of Graf Ludwig & his wife, recording that she married "comes de Weldense Gerlacus" and that by him she was mother of "Udonem minorem Cycensem episcopum"[125]. The Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis records the death in 1141 of "Cecilia filia comitis Ludewici primi…relicta comitis Gerlaci" and her burial at Reinhardsbrunn[126].
"m GERLACH [I] Graf von Veldenz, son of --- (-before 1141)."
Med Lands cites:
[124] Historia Brevis Principum Thuringiæ 7, MGH SS XXIV, p. 821.
[125] Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis 1065, MGH SS XXX.1, p. 523.
[126] Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis 1141, MGH SS XXX.1, p. 535.5
[125] Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis 1065, MGH SS XXX.1, p. 523.
[126] Cronica Reinhardsbrunnensis 1141, MGH SS XXX.1, p. 535.5
; Per Genealogy.EU (Thuringia): “B7. Caecilie, +1141; m.Gf Gerlach I von Veldenz”
Per Genealogy.EU (Veldenz 1): “A1. Gf Gerlach I von Veldenz, living 1146; m.Cäcilie of Thuringia (+1141)”.4,9
Family | Gerlach I (?) Count von Veldenz d. b 1141 |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Cäcilie von Thüringen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164777&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Thuring page - Landgraves of Thuringia: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/thuring/thuring.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ludwig 'der Salier': http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029938&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Thuring page - Landgraves of Thuringia: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/thuring/thuring.html
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/THURINGIA.htm#Caeciliedied1141. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelheid von Stade: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029939&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerlach I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164776&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PALATINATE.htm#_Toc510977915
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Veldenz1: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/veldenz/veldenz1.html#G1
Vuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry1,2,3
M, #60912, b. circa 1100, d. 1171
Father | Eudes (?) Châtelain de Vitry, Comte de Rethel2,4,5,6,7,8,9 d. c 1158 |
Mother | Mathilde de Bourcq Comtesse de Rethel2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10 b. 1080, d. a 1151 |
Reference | GAV25 EDV25 |
Last Edited | 16 Dec 2020 |
Vuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry married Béatrice (?) de Namur, daughter of Godfrey/Godefroid (?) Comte de Namur et de Comte de Château-Porcien and Ermesinde (?) Gräfin von Luxemburg, Heiress of Longwy.11,4,12,5,6
Vuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry was born circa 1100.5
Vuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry died in 1171; Luxemburg 2 page says d. 1148/1158; Rethel 2 page says d. 1171.11,2,6
GAV-25 EDV-25.
; Per Genealogics:
“Vuiton, also referred to as Withier, Itier, Witer, Wither, Gonthier and Guithier, and known as 'the Devout', was the son of Eudes, châtelain de Vitry, comte de Réthel, and Mathilde, comtesse de Réthel. He was lord of Vitry and count of Réthel from 1158 to 1171.
“Vuiton was mentioned in a charter signed in March 1128 by his uncle Baudouin II du Bourg, king of Jerusalem, by which Baudouin granted privileges to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem. One can deduce that at that time Vuiton took part in Crusades. During this period Baudouin organised an expedition to take Damascus, but without success.
“Vuiton married Beatrice de Namur, daughter of Godefroid, comte de Namur, and his second wife Ermesinde, comtesse de Luxembourg. Of their nine children, Manassès III, Henri, Beatrice and Clémence would have progeny.
“Vuiton died in 1171.”.5
; This is the same person as:
”https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitier,_Count_of_Rethel” at Wikipedia and as
”Ithier de Rethel” at Wikipédia (Fr.)13,14
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"ITHIER de Rethel, son of EUDES de Vitry Châtelain de Vitry, Comte de Rethel & his wife Mathilde Ctss de Rethel (-1171). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "castellanum Guitherum" as son of "Odoni castellano Vitriaci" & his wife Mathilde, specifying that he succeeded his mother as Comte de Rethel[374]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "comitis Witeri de Retest" as son of "castellanam de Victereio [filiam Hugonem comitem de Retest]"[375]. "…Guitterius sororius regis…" subscribed the charter dated Mar 1128 under which "Balduinus…rex Iherusalem Latinorum secundus" granted privileges to the church of the Holy Sepulchre, Jerusalem[376], although "sororius" is presumably an error for "nepos". Comte de Rethel. A charter dated 1127 records the absolution of "Guiterus comes Registensis" who had been excommunicated by Renaud Archbishop of Reims because of his actions against church property[377]. Châtelain de Vitry. "Albricus Matrannus et Gilo filius eius cum uxoribus et filiis eorum" donated part of the mills at Rethel to the church of Rethel, with the consent of "Guiteri Regitestensis comitis et Beatricis comitissæ et filiorum eorum Johannis et Manasse", by charter dated 1144[378]. "Witerus comes Regitestis" donated property to the church of Breaux, with the consent of "Beatrix uxor sua comitissa et Hugo filius suus major natu et Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1155, witnessed by "Witerus de Cuciaco, Gilo de Regiteste, Albricus Gilone nepos…Albertus canonicus prefati comitis filius"[379]. "H comes Regitestensis et M uxor mea…et filii sui M…B et G" donated property to "Silve Majoris", confirmed by "Alexander episcopus" by charter dated 22 Jun, dated to 1168 or 1169[380]. This charter is difficult to explain satisfactorily. Assuming that the year is correct (not specified in the charter, presumably dated to the bishop), "H" should have been "I" Comte de Rethel. However, if that is correct, "M uxor mea" should have been "B". The names of the first two sons could have been Manassès and Baudouin, consistent with the donor being Ithier, but no other primary source has been identified which names a third son "G". “Iterius...comes Registensis cum uxore et filiis ac nepotibus” donated serfs to the prior of Mont Dieu by undated charter[381].
"m BEATRIX de Namur, daughter of GODEFROI I Comte de Namur & his second wife Ermesinde de Luxembourg ([1115/16]-1160). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "unam filiarum supradicti comitis Namurensis [=comitis Godefridi] Beatricem" as wife of "castellanum Guitherum…Vitriaci", and in a later passage naming (in order) "ducissa Cyringie…Beatrix…Alidis…" as the three daughters of "comes Godefridus de Namuco" & his second wife, clarifying that Beatrix married "comiti Guithero Reytestensi"[382]. The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the three daughters of "Godefridus comes Namurcensi" & his second wife as "ducissam…Ciringiorum et comitissam de Retest et…Alidem comitissam Hanoniensem"[383]. "Albricus Matrannus et Gilo filius eius cum uxoribus et filiis eorum" donated part of the mills at Rethel to the church of Rethel, with the consent of "Guiteri Regitestensis comitis et Beatricis comitissæ et filiorum eorum Johannis et Manasse", by charter dated 1144[384]. "Witerus comes Regitestis" donated property to the church of Breaux, with the consent of "Beatrix uxor sua comitissa et Hugo filius suus major natu et Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1155, witnessed by "Witerus de Cuciaco, Gilo de Regiteste, Albricus Gilone nepos…Albertus canonicus prefati comitis filius"[385]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Rethel): “Gervais de Rethel ° ~1075/82 + avant 1124 Archevêque de Reims puis comte de Rethel (1118)
ép. 1120/22 Elisabeth de Namur ° 1092 (fille de Godefroi 1er, comte de Namur, et de Sibylle de Château-Porcien ; ép. 2) avant 1131 Clarambaud ou Clérembaud de Rosoy ° ~1100 + 1141 ou 1158 ?)”
Per Racines et Histoire (Namur): “1) Elisabeth de Namur ° 1092
ép. 1) ~1087 Gervais de Rethel ° 1075/80 + 1124 comte de Rethel (fils d’Hugues 1er, comte de Rethel, et de Mélisende de Montlhéry)
ép. 2) avant 1131 Clarembaud de Rosoy + avant 1158”.15,16
; Per Genealogy.EU (Luxemburg 2): “[2m.] Beatrix de Namur, *after 1101, +1160; m. Gonthier/Ithier, Cte de Rethel (+1148/58.)17,18"
Vuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry was born circa 1100.5
Vuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry died in 1171; Luxemburg 2 page says d. 1148/1158; Rethel 2 page says d. 1171.11,2,6
GAV-25 EDV-25.
; Per Genealogics:
“Vuiton, also referred to as Withier, Itier, Witer, Wither, Gonthier and Guithier, and known as 'the Devout', was the son of Eudes, châtelain de Vitry, comte de Réthel, and Mathilde, comtesse de Réthel. He was lord of Vitry and count of Réthel from 1158 to 1171.
“Vuiton was mentioned in a charter signed in March 1128 by his uncle Baudouin II du Bourg, king of Jerusalem, by which Baudouin granted privileges to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem. One can deduce that at that time Vuiton took part in Crusades. During this period Baudouin organised an expedition to take Damascus, but without success.
“Vuiton married Beatrice de Namur, daughter of Godefroid, comte de Namur, and his second wife Ermesinde, comtesse de Luxembourg. Of their nine children, Manassès III, Henri, Beatrice and Clémence would have progeny.
“Vuiton died in 1171.”.5
; This is the same person as:
”https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitier,_Count_of_Rethel” at Wikipedia and as
”Ithier de Rethel” at Wikipédia (Fr.)13,14
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Rupenides,Hethumides and Lusignans, Structure of the Armeno-Cilician dynast. Paris, 1963., W.H. Rudt-Collenberg, Reference: V (J).
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 626.5
Vuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry was also known as Ithier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry.2,6 Vuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry was also known as Gonthier/Ithier (?) Cte de Rethel.11 Vuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry was also known as Gonthier/Ithier (?) Cte de Rethel.11 2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 626.5
; Per Med Lands:
"ITHIER de Rethel, son of EUDES de Vitry Châtelain de Vitry, Comte de Rethel & his wife Mathilde Ctss de Rethel (-1171). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "castellanum Guitherum" as son of "Odoni castellano Vitriaci" & his wife Mathilde, specifying that he succeeded his mother as Comte de Rethel[374]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "comitis Witeri de Retest" as son of "castellanam de Victereio [filiam Hugonem comitem de Retest]"[375]. "…Guitterius sororius regis…" subscribed the charter dated Mar 1128 under which "Balduinus…rex Iherusalem Latinorum secundus" granted privileges to the church of the Holy Sepulchre, Jerusalem[376], although "sororius" is presumably an error for "nepos". Comte de Rethel. A charter dated 1127 records the absolution of "Guiterus comes Registensis" who had been excommunicated by Renaud Archbishop of Reims because of his actions against church property[377]. Châtelain de Vitry. "Albricus Matrannus et Gilo filius eius cum uxoribus et filiis eorum" donated part of the mills at Rethel to the church of Rethel, with the consent of "Guiteri Regitestensis comitis et Beatricis comitissæ et filiorum eorum Johannis et Manasse", by charter dated 1144[378]. "Witerus comes Regitestis" donated property to the church of Breaux, with the consent of "Beatrix uxor sua comitissa et Hugo filius suus major natu et Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1155, witnessed by "Witerus de Cuciaco, Gilo de Regiteste, Albricus Gilone nepos…Albertus canonicus prefati comitis filius"[379]. "H comes Regitestensis et M uxor mea…et filii sui M…B et G" donated property to "Silve Majoris", confirmed by "Alexander episcopus" by charter dated 22 Jun, dated to 1168 or 1169[380]. This charter is difficult to explain satisfactorily. Assuming that the year is correct (not specified in the charter, presumably dated to the bishop), "H" should have been "I" Comte de Rethel. However, if that is correct, "M uxor mea" should have been "B". The names of the first two sons could have been Manassès and Baudouin, consistent with the donor being Ithier, but no other primary source has been identified which names a third son "G". “Iterius...comes Registensis cum uxore et filiis ac nepotibus” donated serfs to the prior of Mont Dieu by undated charter[381].
"m BEATRIX de Namur, daughter of GODEFROI I Comte de Namur & his second wife Ermesinde de Luxembourg ([1115/16]-1160). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "unam filiarum supradicti comitis Namurensis [=comitis Godefridi] Beatricem" as wife of "castellanum Guitherum…Vitriaci", and in a later passage naming (in order) "ducissa Cyringie…Beatrix…Alidis…" as the three daughters of "comes Godefridus de Namuco" & his second wife, clarifying that Beatrix married "comiti Guithero Reytestensi"[382]. The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the three daughters of "Godefridus comes Namurcensi" & his second wife as "ducissam…Ciringiorum et comitissam de Retest et…Alidem comitissam Hanoniensem"[383]. "Albricus Matrannus et Gilo filius eius cum uxoribus et filiis eorum" donated part of the mills at Rethel to the church of Rethel, with the consent of "Guiteri Regitestensis comitis et Beatricis comitissæ et filiorum eorum Johannis et Manasse", by charter dated 1144[384]. "Witerus comes Regitestis" donated property to the church of Breaux, with the consent of "Beatrix uxor sua comitissa et Hugo filius suus major natu et Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1155, witnessed by "Witerus de Cuciaco, Gilo de Regiteste, Albricus Gilone nepos…Albertus canonicus prefati comitis filius"[385]."
Med Lands cites:
[374] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116, MGH SS XXIII, p. 822.
[375] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.
[376] Saint-Sépulchre de Jerusalem, 44, p. 81.
[377] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 22.
[378] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, VIII, p. 201.
[379] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, 3, p. 595.
[380] Delisle (1867), 2, p. 12.
[381] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, VI, p. 10.
[382] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116 and 1168, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 822 and 851-2.
[383] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508.
[384] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, VIII, p. 201.
[385] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, 3, p. 595.6
[375] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.
[376] Saint-Sépulchre de Jerusalem, 44, p. 81.
[377] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 22.
[378] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, VIII, p. 201.
[379] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, 3, p. 595.
[380] Delisle (1867), 2, p. 12.
[381] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, VI, p. 10.
[382] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116 and 1168, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 822 and 851-2.
[383] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508.
[384] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, VIII, p. 201.
[385] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, 3, p. 595.6
; Per Racines et Histoire (Rethel): “Gervais de Rethel ° ~1075/82 + avant 1124 Archevêque de Reims puis comte de Rethel (1118)
ép. 1120/22 Elisabeth de Namur ° 1092 (fille de Godefroi 1er, comte de Namur, et de Sibylle de Château-Porcien ; ép. 2) avant 1131 Clarambaud ou Clérembaud de Rosoy ° ~1100 + 1141 ou 1158 ?)”
Per Racines et Histoire (Namur): “1) Elisabeth de Namur ° 1092
ép. 1) ~1087 Gervais de Rethel ° 1075/80 + 1124 comte de Rethel (fils d’Hugues 1er, comte de Rethel, et de Mélisende de Montlhéry)
ép. 2) avant 1131 Clarembaud de Rosoy + avant 1158”.15,16
; Per Genealogy.EU (Luxemburg 2): “[2m.] Beatrix de Namur, *after 1101, +1160; m. Gonthier/Ithier, Cte de Rethel (+1148/58.)17,18"
Family | Béatrice (?) de Namur b. a 1101, d. 1160 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Vuiton/Withier: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076229&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, The Rupenides, Hethumides and Lusignans: The Structure of the Armeno-Cilician Dynasties (11, Rude de Lille, Paris 7e, France: Librairie C. Klincksieck for the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation Armenian Library (Lisbon), 1963), Chart A (R1): Relationship Table XII - XIII Century. Hereinafter cited as Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc.
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc., Chart V (J): The House of the Kings of Jerusalem.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Vuiton/Withier: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076229&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#ItierRetheldied1171. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eudes: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076231&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#EudesVitrydied1158
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Rethel, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Rethel.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076232&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 2 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice de Namur: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027127&tree=LEO
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitier,_Count_of_Rethel. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Ithier de Rethel: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ithier_de_Rethel. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Namur, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Namur.pdf
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Rethel, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Rethel.pdf
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 2 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg2.html
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NAMUR.htm#Beatirxdied1160
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Clémence de Réthel: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139693&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#ClemenceRethelMHuguesPierrepont
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri de Rethel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00208274&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues de Rethel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076230&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice de Vitry-Rethel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00065041&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Manasses III: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139462&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#ManassesIIIRetheldied1198B
Béatrice (?) de Namur1,2
F, #60913, b. after 1101, d. 1160
Father | Godfrey/Godefroid (?) Comte de Namur et de Comte de Château-Porcien3,2,4,5,6 b. c 1069, d. 19 Aug 1139 |
Mother | Ermesinde (?) Gräfin von Luxemburg, Heiress of Longwy7,2,5,6 b. c 1075, d. 24 Jun 1141 |
Reference | GAV25 EDV25 |
Last Edited | 16 Dec 2020 |
Béatrice (?) de Namur married Vuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry, son of Eudes (?) Châtelain de Vitry, Comte de Rethel and Mathilde de Bourcq Comtesse de Rethel.2,8,5,9,10
Béatrice (?) de Namur was born after 1101.2 She married Clarembaud de Rosoy before 1131
;
Her 2nd husband ??; Genealogy.EU mentions this marriage, but Genealogics and Med Lands do not.11
Béatrice (?) de Namur died in 1160.2,12,5,6
; Per Med Lands:
"ITHIER de Rethel, son of EUDES de Vitry Châtelain de Vitry, Comte de Rethel & his wife Mathilde Ctss de Rethel (-1171). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "castellanum Guitherum" as son of "Odoni castellano Vitriaci" & his wife Mathilde, specifying that he succeeded his mother as Comte de Rethel[374]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "comitis Witeri de Retest" as son of "castellanam de Victereio [filiam Hugonem comitem de Retest]"[375]. "…Guitterius sororius regis…" subscribed the charter dated Mar 1128 under which "Balduinus…rex Iherusalem Latinorum secundus" granted privileges to the church of the Holy Sepulchre, Jerusalem[376], although "sororius" is presumably an error for "nepos". Comte de Rethel. A charter dated 1127 records the absolution of "Guiterus comes Registensis" who had been excommunicated by Renaud Archbishop of Reims because of his actions against church property[377]. Châtelain de Vitry. "Albricus Matrannus et Gilo filius eius cum uxoribus et filiis eorum" donated part of the mills at Rethel to the church of Rethel, with the consent of "Guiteri Regitestensis comitis et Beatricis comitissæ et filiorum eorum Johannis et Manasse", by charter dated 1144[378]. "Witerus comes Regitestis" donated property to the church of Breaux, with the consent of "Beatrix uxor sua comitissa et Hugo filius suus major natu et Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1155, witnessed by "Witerus de Cuciaco, Gilo de Regiteste, Albricus Gilone nepos…Albertus canonicus prefati comitis filius"[379]. "H comes Regitestensis et M uxor mea…et filii sui M…B et G" donated property to "Silve Majoris", confirmed by "Alexander episcopus" by charter dated 22 Jun, dated to 1168 or 1169[380]. This charter is difficult to explain satisfactorily. Assuming that the year is correct (not specified in the charter, presumably dated to the bishop), "H" should have been "I" Comte de Rethel. However, if that is correct, "M uxor mea" should have been "B". The names of the first two sons could have been Manassès and Baudouin, consistent with the donor being Ithier, but no other primary source has been identified which names a third son "G". “Iterius...comes Registensis cum uxore et filiis ac nepotibus” donated serfs to the prior of Mont Dieu by undated charter[381].
"m BEATRIX de Namur, daughter of GODEFROI I Comte de Namur & his second wife Ermesinde de Luxembourg ([1115/16]-1160). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "unam filiarum supradicti comitis Namurensis [=comitis Godefridi] Beatricem" as wife of "castellanum Guitherum…Vitriaci", and in a later passage naming (in order) "ducissa Cyringie…Beatrix…Alidis…" as the three daughters of "comes Godefridus de Namuco" & his second wife, clarifying that Beatrix married "comiti Guithero Reytestensi"[382]. The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the three daughters of "Godefridus comes Namurcensi" & his second wife as "ducissam…Ciringiorum et comitissam de Retest et…Alidem comitissam Hanoniensem"[383]. "Albricus Matrannus et Gilo filius eius cum uxoribus et filiis eorum" donated part of the mills at Rethel to the church of Rethel, with the consent of "Guiteri Regitestensis comitis et Beatricis comitissæ et filiorum eorum Johannis et Manasse", by charter dated 1144[384]. "Witerus comes Regitestis" donated property to the church of Breaux, with the consent of "Beatrix uxor sua comitissa et Hugo filius suus major natu et Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1155, witnessed by "Witerus de Cuciaco, Gilo de Regiteste, Albricus Gilone nepos…Albertus canonicus prefati comitis filius"[385]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"BEATRIX de Namur (-1160). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "unam filiarum supradicti comitis Namurensis [=comitis Godefridi] Beatricem" as wife of "castellanum Guitherum…Vitriaci", and in a later passage naming (in order) "ducissa Cyringie…Beatrix…Alidis…" as the three daughters of "comes Godefridus de Namuco" & his second wife, clarifying that Beatrix married "comiti Guithero Reytestensi"[152]. The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the three daughters of "Godefridus comes Namurcensi" & his second wife as "ducissam…Ciringiorum et comitissam de Retest et…Alidem comitissam Hanoniensem"[153]. "Albricus Matrannus et Gilo filius eius cum uxoribus et filiis eorum" donated part of the mills at Rethel to the church of Rethel, with the consent of "Guiteri Regitestensis comitis et Beatricis comitissæ et filiorum eorum Johannis et Manasse", by charter dated 1144[154]. "Witerus comes Regitestis" donated property to the church of Breaux, with the consent of "Beatrix uxor sua comitissa et Hugo filius suus major natu et Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1155, witnessed by "Witerus de Cuciaco, Gilo de Regiteste, Albricus Gilone nepos…Albertus canonicus prefati comitis filius"[155].
"m ITHIER Comte de Rethel, son of EUDES de Vitry Châtelain de Vitry, Comte de Rethel & his wife Mathilde Ctss de Rethel (-1170)."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Luxemburg 2): “[2m.] Beatrix de Namur, *after 1101, +1160; m. Gonthier/Ithier, Cte de Rethel (+1148/58.)13,6"
; Per Racines et Histoire (Rethel): “Gervais de Rethel ° ~1075/82 + avant 1124 Archevêque de Reims puis comte de Rethel (1118)
ép. 1120/22 Elisabeth de Namur ° 1092 (fille de Godefroi 1er, comte de Namur, et de Sibylle de Château-Porcien ; ép. 2) avant 1131 Clarambaud ou Clérembaud de Rosoy ° ~1100 + 1141 ou 1158 ?)”
Per Racines et Histoire (Namur): “1) Elisabeth de Namur ° 1092
ép. 1) ~1087 Gervais de Rethel ° 1075/80 + 1124 comte de Rethel (fils d’Hugues 1er, comte de Rethel, et de Mélisende de Montlhéry)
ép. 2) avant 1131 Clarembaud de Rosoy + avant 1158”.11,14
Béatrice (?) de Namur was born after 1101.2 She married Clarembaud de Rosoy before 1131
;
Her 2nd husband ??; Genealogy.EU mentions this marriage, but Genealogics and Med Lands do not.11
Béatrice (?) de Namur died in 1160.2,12,5,6
; Per Med Lands:
"ITHIER de Rethel, son of EUDES de Vitry Châtelain de Vitry, Comte de Rethel & his wife Mathilde Ctss de Rethel (-1171). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "castellanum Guitherum" as son of "Odoni castellano Vitriaci" & his wife Mathilde, specifying that he succeeded his mother as Comte de Rethel[374]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "comitis Witeri de Retest" as son of "castellanam de Victereio [filiam Hugonem comitem de Retest]"[375]. "…Guitterius sororius regis…" subscribed the charter dated Mar 1128 under which "Balduinus…rex Iherusalem Latinorum secundus" granted privileges to the church of the Holy Sepulchre, Jerusalem[376], although "sororius" is presumably an error for "nepos". Comte de Rethel. A charter dated 1127 records the absolution of "Guiterus comes Registensis" who had been excommunicated by Renaud Archbishop of Reims because of his actions against church property[377]. Châtelain de Vitry. "Albricus Matrannus et Gilo filius eius cum uxoribus et filiis eorum" donated part of the mills at Rethel to the church of Rethel, with the consent of "Guiteri Regitestensis comitis et Beatricis comitissæ et filiorum eorum Johannis et Manasse", by charter dated 1144[378]. "Witerus comes Regitestis" donated property to the church of Breaux, with the consent of "Beatrix uxor sua comitissa et Hugo filius suus major natu et Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1155, witnessed by "Witerus de Cuciaco, Gilo de Regiteste, Albricus Gilone nepos…Albertus canonicus prefati comitis filius"[379]. "H comes Regitestensis et M uxor mea…et filii sui M…B et G" donated property to "Silve Majoris", confirmed by "Alexander episcopus" by charter dated 22 Jun, dated to 1168 or 1169[380]. This charter is difficult to explain satisfactorily. Assuming that the year is correct (not specified in the charter, presumably dated to the bishop), "H" should have been "I" Comte de Rethel. However, if that is correct, "M uxor mea" should have been "B". The names of the first two sons could have been Manassès and Baudouin, consistent with the donor being Ithier, but no other primary source has been identified which names a third son "G". “Iterius...comes Registensis cum uxore et filiis ac nepotibus” donated serfs to the prior of Mont Dieu by undated charter[381].
"m BEATRIX de Namur, daughter of GODEFROI I Comte de Namur & his second wife Ermesinde de Luxembourg ([1115/16]-1160). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "unam filiarum supradicti comitis Namurensis [=comitis Godefridi] Beatricem" as wife of "castellanum Guitherum…Vitriaci", and in a later passage naming (in order) "ducissa Cyringie…Beatrix…Alidis…" as the three daughters of "comes Godefridus de Namuco" & his second wife, clarifying that Beatrix married "comiti Guithero Reytestensi"[382]. The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the three daughters of "Godefridus comes Namurcensi" & his second wife as "ducissam…Ciringiorum et comitissam de Retest et…Alidem comitissam Hanoniensem"[383]. "Albricus Matrannus et Gilo filius eius cum uxoribus et filiis eorum" donated part of the mills at Rethel to the church of Rethel, with the consent of "Guiteri Regitestensis comitis et Beatricis comitissæ et filiorum eorum Johannis et Manasse", by charter dated 1144[384]. "Witerus comes Regitestis" donated property to the church of Breaux, with the consent of "Beatrix uxor sua comitissa et Hugo filius suus major natu et Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1155, witnessed by "Witerus de Cuciaco, Gilo de Regiteste, Albricus Gilone nepos…Albertus canonicus prefati comitis filius"[385]."
Med Lands cites:
[374] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116, MGH SS XXIII, p. 822.
[375] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.
[376] Saint-Sépulchre de Jerusalem, 44, p. 81.
[377] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 22.
[378] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, VIII, p. 201.
[379] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, 3, p. 595.
[380] Delisle (1867), 2, p. 12.
[381] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, VI, p. 10.
[382] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116 and 1168, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 822 and 851-2.
[383] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508.
[384] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, VIII, p. 201.
[385] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, 3, p. 595.10
[375] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.
[376] Saint-Sépulchre de Jerusalem, 44, p. 81.
[377] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 22.
[378] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, VIII, p. 201.
[379] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, 3, p. 595.
[380] Delisle (1867), 2, p. 12.
[381] Chartes Rethel (1902), Tome I, VI, p. 10.
[382] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116 and 1168, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 822 and 851-2.
[383] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508.
[384] Jolibois (1847), Notes et documents, VIII, p. 201.
[385] Le Long (1783), Pièces Justificatives, 3, p. 595.10
; Per Med Lands:
"BEATRIX de Namur (-1160). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "unam filiarum supradicti comitis Namurensis [=comitis Godefridi] Beatricem" as wife of "castellanum Guitherum…Vitriaci", and in a later passage naming (in order) "ducissa Cyringie…Beatrix…Alidis…" as the three daughters of "comes Godefridus de Namuco" & his second wife, clarifying that Beatrix married "comiti Guithero Reytestensi"[152]. The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the three daughters of "Godefridus comes Namurcensi" & his second wife as "ducissam…Ciringiorum et comitissam de Retest et…Alidem comitissam Hanoniensem"[153]. "Albricus Matrannus et Gilo filius eius cum uxoribus et filiis eorum" donated part of the mills at Rethel to the church of Rethel, with the consent of "Guiteri Regitestensis comitis et Beatricis comitissæ et filiorum eorum Johannis et Manasse", by charter dated 1144[154]. "Witerus comes Regitestis" donated property to the church of Breaux, with the consent of "Beatrix uxor sua comitissa et Hugo filius suus major natu et Henricus et Balduinus", by charter dated 1155, witnessed by "Witerus de Cuciaco, Gilo de Regiteste, Albricus Gilone nepos…Albertus canonicus prefati comitis filius"[155].
"m ITHIER Comte de Rethel, son of EUDES de Vitry Châtelain de Vitry, Comte de Rethel & his wife Mathilde Ctss de Rethel (-1170)."
Med Lands cites:
[152] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116 and 1168, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 822 and 851-2.
[153] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508.
[154] Jolibois, E. (1847) Histoire de la ville de Rethel (Paris/Rethel), Notes et documents, VIII, p. 201.
[155] Le Long, N. (1783) Histoire ecclésiastique et civile du diocèse de Laon (Chalon), Pièces Justificatives, 3, p. 595.6
GAV-25 EDV-25. [153] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508.
[154] Jolibois, E. (1847) Histoire de la ville de Rethel (Paris/Rethel), Notes et documents, VIII, p. 201.
[155] Le Long, N. (1783) Histoire ecclésiastique et civile du diocèse de Laon (Chalon), Pièces Justificatives, 3, p. 595.6
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 197.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 68.5
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 68.5
; Per Genealogy.EU (Luxemburg 2): “[2m.] Beatrix de Namur, *after 1101, +1160; m. Gonthier/Ithier, Cte de Rethel (+1148/58.)13,6"
; Per Racines et Histoire (Rethel): “Gervais de Rethel ° ~1075/82 + avant 1124 Archevêque de Reims puis comte de Rethel (1118)
ép. 1120/22 Elisabeth de Namur ° 1092 (fille de Godefroi 1er, comte de Namur, et de Sibylle de Château-Porcien ; ép. 2) avant 1131 Clarambaud ou Clérembaud de Rosoy ° ~1100 + 1141 ou 1158 ?)”
Per Racines et Histoire (Namur): “1) Elisabeth de Namur ° 1092
ép. 1) ~1087 Gervais de Rethel ° 1075/80 + 1124 comte de Rethel (fils d’Hugues 1er, comte de Rethel, et de Mélisende de Montlhéry)
ép. 2) avant 1131 Clarembaud de Rosoy + avant 1158”.11,14
Family 1 | Vuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry b. c 1100, d. 1171 |
Children |
|
Family 2 | Clarembaud de Rosoy d. b 1158 |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice de Namur: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027127&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 2 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Godefroid: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027095&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NAMUR.htm#Godefroidied1139. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice de Namur: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027127&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NAMUR.htm#Beatirxdied1160
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermesinde: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027096&tree=LEO
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, The Rupenides, Hethumides and Lusignans: The Structure of the Armeno-Cilician Dynasties (11, Rude de Lille, Paris 7e, France: Librairie C. Klincksieck for the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation Armenian Library (Lisbon), 1963), Chart V (J): The House of the Kings of Jerusalem. Hereinafter cited as Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Vuiton/Withier: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076229&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#ItierRetheldied1171
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Namur, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Namur.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 2 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg2.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Rethel, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Rethel.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Clémence de Réthel: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139693&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#ClemenceRethelMHuguesPierrepont
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri de Rethel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00208274&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues de Rethel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076230&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice de Vitry-Rethel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00065041&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Manasses III: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139462&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Rethel, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Rethel.pdf
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#ManassesIIIRetheldied1198B
Flandrine (?) de Namur1,2
F, #60914
Father | Godfrey/Godefroid (?) Comte de Namur et de Comte de Château-Porcien1,2,3,4 b. c 1069, d. 19 Aug 1139 |
Mother | Sibylle de Porcean1,5,2 b. c 1065 |
Last Edited | 16 Mar 2020 |
Flandrine (?) de Namur married Hugues d'Antoing.6,1,2
; [1m.] Flandrine de Namur; m. Hugues d'Epinoy/d'Antoing.2
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 68.1
; [1m.] Flandrine de Namur; m. Hugues d'Epinoy/d'Antoing.2
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 68.1
Family | Hugues d'Antoing |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Flandrine de Namur: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027106&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 2 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Godefroid: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027095&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NAMUR.htm#Godefroidied1139. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sibil de Porcean: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027099&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues d'Antoing: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027105&tree=LEO
Albert (?) de Namur1
M, #60916, d. circa 1127
Father | Godfrey/Godefroid (?) Comte de Namur et de Comte de Château-Porcien1,2,3 b. c 1069, d. 19 Aug 1139 |
Mother | Ermesinde (?) Gräfin von Luxemburg, Heiress of Longwy1,4 b. c 1075, d. 24 Jun 1141 |
Last Edited | 16 Mar 2020 |
Albert (?) de Namur died circa 1127.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 68.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 68.1
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Albert de Namur: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027126&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Godefroid: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027095&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NAMUR.htm#Godefroidied1139. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermesinde: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027096&tree=LEO
Clémence de Réthel1,2,3
F, #60917, d. after 1191
Father | Vuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry1,4,5,2,3 b. c 1100, d. 1171 |
Mother | Béatrice (?) de Namur1,6,5,2,3 b. a 1101, d. 1160 |
Reference | GAV26 EDV26 |
Last Edited | 29 Nov 2020 |
Clémence de Réthel married Hugues de Pierrepont Sire de Pierrepont, son of Guillaume de Pierrepont Sire de Pierrepont.7,1,8,9,3
Clémence de Réthel died after 1191.3
GAV-26 EDV-26 GKJ-26.
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 699.2
; Per Genealogy.EU (Rethel 2): “B8. Clemence de Rethel; m.Hugues de Pierepont (*ca 1145)”.10
; Per Med Lands:
"CLEMENCE de Rethel (-after 1191). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugonem et Manassem cum aliis filiis et filiabus" children of "comitis Witeri de Retest", specifying that another daughter married "Hugo de Petraponte"[418]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Albertum Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis prepositum, comitem de Reytest Manasserum, castellanum Vitriaci Henricum et Hugonem et Balduinum…et tres sorores" as the children of "comiti Guithero Reytestensi" & his wife, naming the third daughter "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou" and their children "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcope Leodiensis nomine Iohannis"[419]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Clementia filia comitis Guitherii Reytestensis de prosapia Namucensis" as mother of "Hugo [episcopi Leodiensis]…Roberti de Petraponte et Galtheri de Wasnadino" when recording the bishop's election[420]. The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the two daughters of "comitissa Retensis [filiam Godefridi comitis Namurcensi]", specifying that "Hugoni de Petraponte" married the second by whom he was father of "Robertus…et Hugonem clericum…Leodiensis…prepositum, archidiaconum et abbatum et postea episcopum"[421]. The bishop of Laon ratified donations to Tournai Saint-Martin made by “Everardus de Moncellis et Philippus de Turro”, with the consent of “Hugo de Petreponte et uxor eius Clementia et filii eius et filie” from whom the donors held the property in fief, by charter dated 1166[422]. “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...”[423]. “Robertus...dominus Petrepontis” approved the renunciation by “mater mea Clementia” in favour of Tournai Saint-Martin of property which she had claimed “post obitum pie memorie Hugonis patris mei...jure dotis” by charter dated 1190[424]. “Clémence dame de Pierrepont [...veuve de Hugues de Pierrepont] et Robert son fils” settled a dispute with Valroy, recording her rights and those of “ses fils Robert et Wautier, Eustachie, épouse de Robert et Béatrice, sa fille” to Valroy, by charter dated 1191[425].
"m HUGUES de Pierrepont [de “Wasnou/Vasnove”], son of --- (-[1188/90]). "
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Rethel): “Clémence de Rethel fl ~1152/1191 + 1191 ou peu après
ép. ~1159 Hugues de Pierrepont + ~1188”.11
; Per Med Lands:
"The parentage of Hugues is uncertain. He names Robert de Pierrepont as his “avunculus” in the charter dated 1149 quoted below. He could have been either the son of Guillaume de Pierrepont or the son of a sister of Guillaume who inherited Pierrepont after the death of her brothers without direct heirs. As Hugues is named “Hugues de Vasnove” in the 1149 charter, the latter possibility seems more likely. Hugues names “Guy” and “Robert” as his predecessors in the charter dated 19 Jun 1181 quoted below: Robert was presumably his uncle, the identity of Guy has not been ascertained.
"HUGUES de Pierrepont [de “Wasnou/Vasnove”] (-[1188/90]). Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Vasnove” confirmed the donation of “Saumoncey, Beauvoir” to Laon Saint-Martin, donated by “avunculi sui Roberti de Monte-acuto” but which he had wrongly claimed, by charter dated 1149[650]. Seigneur de Pierrepont. The bishop of Laon ratified donations to Tournai Saint-Martin made by “Everardus de Moncellis et Philippus de Turro”, with the consent of “Hugo de Petreponte et uxor eius Clementia et filii eius et filie” from whom the donors held the property in fief, by charter dated 1166[651]. “Hugues de Pierrepont” granted “le sauf-conduit de sa terre de Pierrepont...[et] de Montaigu...” to Valroy, with the consent of “son épouse Clémence et de ses fils Robert et Gautier et des autres”, by charter dated 1170[652]. The bishop of Laon noted that “Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[653]. The Feoda Campanie dated [1172] includes “Hugo de Wasnou…” in De Monte Felicis[654]. Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Petre-Ponte et filius meus Robertus” donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, naming “predecessorum meorum...Widonis et Roberti” and “Galterius et Willelmus filii mei...fratres Roberti primogeniti mei”, with the consent of “uxor mea et uxor filii mei Eustachia”, by charter dated 19 Jun 1181[655]. “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...”[656]. “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” declared “selusam molendini de Brangecort” the property of Tournai Saint-Martin by charter dated 1188[657]. He had died by 1190 when his son Robert was named as seigneur de Pierrepont (see below).
"m CLEMENCE de Rethel, daughter of ITHIER Comte de Rethel Châtelain de Vitry & his wife Beatrix de Namur (-after 1191). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugonem et Manassem cum aliis filiis et filiabus" children of "comitis Witeri de Retest", specifying that another daughter married "Hugo de Petraponte"[658]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Albertum Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis prepositum, comitem de Reytest Manasserum, castellanum Vitriaci Henricum et Hugonem et Balduinum…et tres sorores" as the children of "comiti Guithero Reytestensi" & his wife, naming the third daughter "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou" and their children "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcopi Leodiensis nomine Iohannis"[659]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Clementia filia comitis Guitherii Reytestensis de prosapia Namucensis" as mother of "Hugo [episcopi Leodiensis]…Roberti de Petraponte et Galtheri de Wasnadino" when recording the bishop's election[660]. The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the two daughters of "comitissa Retensis [filiam Godefridi comitis Namurcensi]", specifying that "Hugoni de Petraponte" married the second by whom he was father of "Robertus…et Hugonem clericum…Leodiensis…prepositum, archidiaconum et abbatum et postea episcopum"[661]. The bishop of Laon ratified donations to Tournai Saint-Martin made by “Everardus de Moncellis et Philippus de Turro”, with the consent of “Hugo de Petreponte et uxor eius Clementia et filii eius et filie” from whom the donors held the property in fief, by charter dated 1166[662]. “Hugues de Pierrepont” granted “le sauf-conduit de sa terre de Pierrepont...[et] de Montaigu...” to Valroy, with the consent of “son épouse Clémence et de ses fils Robert et Gautier et des autres”, by charter dated 1170[663]. The bishop of Laon noted that “Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[664]. “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...”[665]. “Robertus...dominus Petrepontis” approved the renunciation by “mater mea Clementia” in favour of Tournai Saint-Martin of property which she had claimed “post obitum pie memorie Hugonis patris mei...jure dotis” by charter dated 1190[666]. “Clémence dame de Pierrepont [...veuve de Hugues de Pierrepont] et Robert son fils” settled a dispute with Valroy, recording her rights and those of “ses fils Robert et Wautier, Eustachie, épouse de Robert et Béatrice, sa fille” to Valroy, by charter dated 1191[667]."
Med Lands cites:
Clémence de Réthel died after 1191.3
GAV-26 EDV-26 GKJ-26.
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 699.2
; Per Genealogy.EU (Rethel 2): “B8. Clemence de Rethel; m.Hugues de Pierepont (*ca 1145)”.10
; Per Med Lands:
"CLEMENCE de Rethel (-after 1191). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugonem et Manassem cum aliis filiis et filiabus" children of "comitis Witeri de Retest", specifying that another daughter married "Hugo de Petraponte"[418]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Albertum Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis prepositum, comitem de Reytest Manasserum, castellanum Vitriaci Henricum et Hugonem et Balduinum…et tres sorores" as the children of "comiti Guithero Reytestensi" & his wife, naming the third daughter "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou" and their children "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcope Leodiensis nomine Iohannis"[419]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Clementia filia comitis Guitherii Reytestensis de prosapia Namucensis" as mother of "Hugo [episcopi Leodiensis]…Roberti de Petraponte et Galtheri de Wasnadino" when recording the bishop's election[420]. The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the two daughters of "comitissa Retensis [filiam Godefridi comitis Namurcensi]", specifying that "Hugoni de Petraponte" married the second by whom he was father of "Robertus…et Hugonem clericum…Leodiensis…prepositum, archidiaconum et abbatum et postea episcopum"[421]. The bishop of Laon ratified donations to Tournai Saint-Martin made by “Everardus de Moncellis et Philippus de Turro”, with the consent of “Hugo de Petreponte et uxor eius Clementia et filii eius et filie” from whom the donors held the property in fief, by charter dated 1166[422]. “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...”[423]. “Robertus...dominus Petrepontis” approved the renunciation by “mater mea Clementia” in favour of Tournai Saint-Martin of property which she had claimed “post obitum pie memorie Hugonis patris mei...jure dotis” by charter dated 1190[424]. “Clémence dame de Pierrepont [...veuve de Hugues de Pierrepont] et Robert son fils” settled a dispute with Valroy, recording her rights and those of “ses fils Robert et Wautier, Eustachie, épouse de Robert et Béatrice, sa fille” to Valroy, by charter dated 1191[425].
"m HUGUES de Pierrepont [de “Wasnou/Vasnove”], son of --- (-[1188/90]). "
Med Lands cites:
[418] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.
[419] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852.
[420] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1200, MGH SS XXIII, p. 878.
[421] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508.
[422] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 100, p. 103.
[423] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135.
[424] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 152, p. 159.
[425] Valroy, L, p. 182.3
[419] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852.
[420] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1200, MGH SS XXIII, p. 878.
[421] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508.
[422] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 100, p. 103.
[423] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135.
[424] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 152, p. 159.
[425] Valroy, L, p. 182.3
; Per Racines et Histoire (Rethel): “Clémence de Rethel fl ~1152/1191 + 1191 ou peu après
ép. ~1159 Hugues de Pierrepont + ~1188”.11
; Per Med Lands:
"The parentage of Hugues is uncertain. He names Robert de Pierrepont as his “avunculus” in the charter dated 1149 quoted below. He could have been either the son of Guillaume de Pierrepont or the son of a sister of Guillaume who inherited Pierrepont after the death of her brothers without direct heirs. As Hugues is named “Hugues de Vasnove” in the 1149 charter, the latter possibility seems more likely. Hugues names “Guy” and “Robert” as his predecessors in the charter dated 19 Jun 1181 quoted below: Robert was presumably his uncle, the identity of Guy has not been ascertained.
"HUGUES de Pierrepont [de “Wasnou/Vasnove”] (-[1188/90]). Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Vasnove” confirmed the donation of “Saumoncey, Beauvoir” to Laon Saint-Martin, donated by “avunculi sui Roberti de Monte-acuto” but which he had wrongly claimed, by charter dated 1149[650]. Seigneur de Pierrepont. The bishop of Laon ratified donations to Tournai Saint-Martin made by “Everardus de Moncellis et Philippus de Turro”, with the consent of “Hugo de Petreponte et uxor eius Clementia et filii eius et filie” from whom the donors held the property in fief, by charter dated 1166[651]. “Hugues de Pierrepont” granted “le sauf-conduit de sa terre de Pierrepont...[et] de Montaigu...” to Valroy, with the consent of “son épouse Clémence et de ses fils Robert et Gautier et des autres”, by charter dated 1170[652]. The bishop of Laon noted that “Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[653]. The Feoda Campanie dated [1172] includes “Hugo de Wasnou…” in De Monte Felicis[654]. Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Petre-Ponte et filius meus Robertus” donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, naming “predecessorum meorum...Widonis et Roberti” and “Galterius et Willelmus filii mei...fratres Roberti primogeniti mei”, with the consent of “uxor mea et uxor filii mei Eustachia”, by charter dated 19 Jun 1181[655]. “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...”[656]. “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” declared “selusam molendini de Brangecort” the property of Tournai Saint-Martin by charter dated 1188[657]. He had died by 1190 when his son Robert was named as seigneur de Pierrepont (see below).
"m CLEMENCE de Rethel, daughter of ITHIER Comte de Rethel Châtelain de Vitry & his wife Beatrix de Namur (-after 1191). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugonem et Manassem cum aliis filiis et filiabus" children of "comitis Witeri de Retest", specifying that another daughter married "Hugo de Petraponte"[658]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Albertum Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis prepositum, comitem de Reytest Manasserum, castellanum Vitriaci Henricum et Hugonem et Balduinum…et tres sorores" as the children of "comiti Guithero Reytestensi" & his wife, naming the third daughter "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou" and their children "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcopi Leodiensis nomine Iohannis"[659]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Clementia filia comitis Guitherii Reytestensis de prosapia Namucensis" as mother of "Hugo [episcopi Leodiensis]…Roberti de Petraponte et Galtheri de Wasnadino" when recording the bishop's election[660]. The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the two daughters of "comitissa Retensis [filiam Godefridi comitis Namurcensi]", specifying that "Hugoni de Petraponte" married the second by whom he was father of "Robertus…et Hugonem clericum…Leodiensis…prepositum, archidiaconum et abbatum et postea episcopum"[661]. The bishop of Laon ratified donations to Tournai Saint-Martin made by “Everardus de Moncellis et Philippus de Turro”, with the consent of “Hugo de Petreponte et uxor eius Clementia et filii eius et filie” from whom the donors held the property in fief, by charter dated 1166[662]. “Hugues de Pierrepont” granted “le sauf-conduit de sa terre de Pierrepont...[et] de Montaigu...” to Valroy, with the consent of “son épouse Clémence et de ses fils Robert et Gautier et des autres”, by charter dated 1170[663]. The bishop of Laon noted that “Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[664]. “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...”[665]. “Robertus...dominus Petrepontis” approved the renunciation by “mater mea Clementia” in favour of Tournai Saint-Martin of property which she had claimed “post obitum pie memorie Hugonis patris mei...jure dotis” by charter dated 1190[666]. “Clémence dame de Pierrepont [...veuve de Hugues de Pierrepont] et Robert son fils” settled a dispute with Valroy, recording her rights and those of “ses fils Robert et Wautier, Eustachie, épouse de Robert et Béatrice, sa fille” to Valroy, by charter dated 1191[667]."
Med Lands cites:
[650] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 131.
[651] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 100, p. 103.
[652] Valroy, XXVII, p. 165.
[653] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115.
[654] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Les Fiefs, 1ère Partie, p. 21.
[655] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 39.
[656] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135.
[657] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 144, p. 151.
[658] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.
[659] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852.
[660] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1200, MGH SS XXIII, p. 878.
[661] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508.
[662] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 100, p. 103.
[663] Valroy, XXVII, p. 165.
[664] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115.
[665] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135.
[666] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 152, p. 159.
[667] Valroy, L, p. 182.9
She was living in 1152.2[651] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 100, p. 103.
[652] Valroy, XXVII, p. 165.
[653] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115.
[654] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Les Fiefs, 1ère Partie, p. 21.
[655] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 39.
[656] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135.
[657] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 144, p. 151.
[658] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.
[659] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852.
[660] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1200, MGH SS XXIII, p. 878.
[661] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508.
[662] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 100, p. 103.
[663] Valroy, XXVII, p. 165.
[664] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115.
[665] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135.
[666] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 152, p. 159.
[667] Valroy, L, p. 182.9
Family | Hugues de Pierrepont Sire de Pierrepont b. c 1145, d. c 1188 |
Children |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Clémence de Réthel: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139693&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#ClemenceRethelMHuguesPierrepont. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Vuiton/Withier: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076229&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#ItierRetheldied1171
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice de Namur: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027127&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Clemence de Rethel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139693&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139692&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#HuguesPierrepontdied1188
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes deRethel, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Rethel.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrix de Pierrepont: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139691&tree=LEO
Hugues de Pierrepont Sire de Pierrepont1,2
M, #60918, b. circa 1145, d. circa 1188
Father | Guillaume de Pierrepont Sire de Pierrepont3,1 |
Reference | GAV26 EDV26 |
Last Edited | 29 Nov 2020 |
Hugues de Pierrepont Sire de Pierrepont married Clémence de Réthel, daughter of Vuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry and Béatrice (?) de Namur.4,5,1,2,6
Hugues de Pierrepont Sire de Pierrepont was born circa 1145.7
Hugues de Pierrepont Sire de Pierrepont died circa 1188; Genealogics says d. ca 1188; Med Lands says d. 1189/90.1,2
; Per Med Lands:
"CLEMENCE de Rethel (-after 1191). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugonem et Manassem cum aliis filiis et filiabus" children of "comitis Witeri de Retest", specifying that another daughter married "Hugo de Petraponte"[418]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Albertum Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis prepositum, comitem de Reytest Manasserum, castellanum Vitriaci Henricum et Hugonem et Balduinum…et tres sorores" as the children of "comiti Guithero Reytestensi" & his wife, naming the third daughter "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou" and their children "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcope Leodiensis nomine Iohannis"[419]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Clementia filia comitis Guitherii Reytestensis de prosapia Namucensis" as mother of "Hugo [episcopi Leodiensis]…Roberti de Petraponte et Galtheri de Wasnadino" when recording the bishop's election[420]. The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the two daughters of "comitissa Retensis [filiam Godefridi comitis Namurcensi]", specifying that "Hugoni de Petraponte" married the second by whom he was father of "Robertus…et Hugonem clericum…Leodiensis…prepositum, archidiaconum et abbatum et postea episcopum"[421]. The bishop of Laon ratified donations to Tournai Saint-Martin made by “Everardus de Moncellis et Philippus de Turro”, with the consent of “Hugo de Petreponte et uxor eius Clementia et filii eius et filie” from whom the donors held the property in fief, by charter dated 1166[422]. “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...”[423]. “Robertus...dominus Petrepontis” approved the renunciation by “mater mea Clementia” in favour of Tournai Saint-Martin of property which she had claimed “post obitum pie memorie Hugonis patris mei...jure dotis” by charter dated 1190[424]. “Clémence dame de Pierrepont [...veuve de Hugues de Pierrepont] et Robert son fils” settled a dispute with Valroy, recording her rights and those of “ses fils Robert et Wautier, Eustachie, épouse de Robert et Béatrice, sa fille” to Valroy, by charter dated 1191[425].
"m HUGUES de Pierrepont [de “Wasnou/Vasnove”], son of --- (-[1188/90]). "
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Rethel 2): “B8. Clemence de Rethel; m.Hugues de Pierepont (*ca 1145)”.8
; Per Racines et Histoire (Rethel): “Clémence de Rethel fl ~1152/1191 + 1191 ou peu après
ép. ~1159 Hugues de Pierrepont + ~1188”.9 GAV-26 EDV-26 GKJ-26.
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 699, 626.1
; Per Med Lands:
"The parentage of Hugues is uncertain. He names Robert de Pierrepont as his “avunculus” in the charter dated 1149 quoted below. He could have been either the son of Guillaume de Pierrepont or the son of a sister of Guillaume who inherited Pierrepont after the death of her brothers without direct heirs. As Hugues is named “Hugues de Vasnove” in the 1149 charter, the latter possibility seems more likely. Hugues names “Guy” and “Robert” as his predecessors in the charter dated 19 Jun 1181 quoted below: Robert was presumably his uncle, the identity of Guy has not been ascertained.
"HUGUES de Pierrepont [de “Wasnou/Vasnove”] (-[1188/90]). Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Vasnove” confirmed the donation of “Saumoncey, Beauvoir” to Laon Saint-Martin, donated by “avunculi sui Roberti de Monte-acuto” but which he had wrongly claimed, by charter dated 1149[650]. Seigneur de Pierrepont. The bishop of Laon ratified donations to Tournai Saint-Martin made by “Everardus de Moncellis et Philippus de Turro”, with the consent of “Hugo de Petreponte et uxor eius Clementia et filii eius et filie” from whom the donors held the property in fief, by charter dated 1166[651]. “Hugues de Pierrepont” granted “le sauf-conduit de sa terre de Pierrepont...[et] de Montaigu...” to Valroy, with the consent of “son épouse Clémence et de ses fils Robert et Gautier et des autres”, by charter dated 1170[652]. The bishop of Laon noted that “Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[653]. The Feoda Campanie dated [1172] includes “Hugo de Wasnou…” in De Monte Felicis[654]. Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Petre-Ponte et filius meus Robertus” donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, naming “predecessorum meorum...Widonis et Roberti” and “Galterius et Willelmus filii mei...fratres Roberti primogeniti mei”, with the consent of “uxor mea et uxor filii mei Eustachia”, by charter dated 19 Jun 1181[655]. “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...”[656]. “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” declared “selusam molendini de Brangecort” the property of Tournai Saint-Martin by charter dated 1188[657]. He had died by 1190 when his son Robert was named as seigneur de Pierrepont (see below).
"m CLEMENCE de Rethel, daughter of ITHIER Comte de Rethel Châtelain de Vitry & his wife Beatrix de Namur (-after 1191). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugonem et Manassem cum aliis filiis et filiabus" children of "comitis Witeri de Retest", specifying that another daughter married "Hugo de Petraponte"[658]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Albertum Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis prepositum, comitem de Reytest Manasserum, castellanum Vitriaci Henricum et Hugonem et Balduinum…et tres sorores" as the children of "comiti Guithero Reytestensi" & his wife, naming the third daughter "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou" and their children "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcopi Leodiensis nomine Iohannis"[659]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Clementia filia comitis Guitherii Reytestensis de prosapia Namucensis" as mother of "Hugo [episcopi Leodiensis]…Roberti de Petraponte et Galtheri de Wasnadino" when recording the bishop's election[660]. The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the two daughters of "comitissa Retensis [filiam Godefridi comitis Namurcensi]", specifying that "Hugoni de Petraponte" married the second by whom he was father of "Robertus…et Hugonem clericum…Leodiensis…prepositum, archidiaconum et abbatum et postea episcopum"[661]. The bishop of Laon ratified donations to Tournai Saint-Martin made by “Everardus de Moncellis et Philippus de Turro”, with the consent of “Hugo de Petreponte et uxor eius Clementia et filii eius et filie” from whom the donors held the property in fief, by charter dated 1166[662]. “Hugues de Pierrepont” granted “le sauf-conduit de sa terre de Pierrepont...[et] de Montaigu...” to Valroy, with the consent of “son épouse Clémence et de ses fils Robert et Gautier et des autres”, by charter dated 1170[663]. The bishop of Laon noted that “Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[664]. “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...”[665]. “Robertus...dominus Petrepontis” approved the renunciation by “mater mea Clementia” in favour of Tournai Saint-Martin of property which she had claimed “post obitum pie memorie Hugonis patris mei...jure dotis” by charter dated 1190[666]. “Clémence dame de Pierrepont [...veuve de Hugues de Pierrepont] et Robert son fils” settled a dispute with Valroy, recording her rights and those of “ses fils Robert et Wautier, Eustachie, épouse de Robert et Béatrice, sa fille” to Valroy, by charter dated 1191[667]."
Med Lands cites:
Hugues de Pierrepont Sire de Pierrepont was born circa 1145.7
Hugues de Pierrepont Sire de Pierrepont died circa 1188; Genealogics says d. ca 1188; Med Lands says d. 1189/90.1,2
; Per Med Lands:
"CLEMENCE de Rethel (-after 1191). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugonem et Manassem cum aliis filiis et filiabus" children of "comitis Witeri de Retest", specifying that another daughter married "Hugo de Petraponte"[418]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Albertum Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis prepositum, comitem de Reytest Manasserum, castellanum Vitriaci Henricum et Hugonem et Balduinum…et tres sorores" as the children of "comiti Guithero Reytestensi" & his wife, naming the third daughter "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou" and their children "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcope Leodiensis nomine Iohannis"[419]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Clementia filia comitis Guitherii Reytestensis de prosapia Namucensis" as mother of "Hugo [episcopi Leodiensis]…Roberti de Petraponte et Galtheri de Wasnadino" when recording the bishop's election[420]. The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the two daughters of "comitissa Retensis [filiam Godefridi comitis Namurcensi]", specifying that "Hugoni de Petraponte" married the second by whom he was father of "Robertus…et Hugonem clericum…Leodiensis…prepositum, archidiaconum et abbatum et postea episcopum"[421]. The bishop of Laon ratified donations to Tournai Saint-Martin made by “Everardus de Moncellis et Philippus de Turro”, with the consent of “Hugo de Petreponte et uxor eius Clementia et filii eius et filie” from whom the donors held the property in fief, by charter dated 1166[422]. “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...”[423]. “Robertus...dominus Petrepontis” approved the renunciation by “mater mea Clementia” in favour of Tournai Saint-Martin of property which she had claimed “post obitum pie memorie Hugonis patris mei...jure dotis” by charter dated 1190[424]. “Clémence dame de Pierrepont [...veuve de Hugues de Pierrepont] et Robert son fils” settled a dispute with Valroy, recording her rights and those of “ses fils Robert et Wautier, Eustachie, épouse de Robert et Béatrice, sa fille” to Valroy, by charter dated 1191[425].
"m HUGUES de Pierrepont [de “Wasnou/Vasnove”], son of --- (-[1188/90]). "
Med Lands cites:
[418] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.
[419] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852.
[420] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1200, MGH SS XXIII, p. 878.
[421] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508.
[422] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 100, p. 103.
[423] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135.
[424] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 152, p. 159.
[425] Valroy, L, p. 182.6
[419] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852.
[420] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1200, MGH SS XXIII, p. 878.
[421] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508.
[422] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 100, p. 103.
[423] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135.
[424] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 152, p. 159.
[425] Valroy, L, p. 182.6
; Per Genealogy.EU (Rethel 2): “B8. Clemence de Rethel; m.Hugues de Pierepont (*ca 1145)”.8
; Per Racines et Histoire (Rethel): “Clémence de Rethel fl ~1152/1191 + 1191 ou peu après
ép. ~1159 Hugues de Pierrepont + ~1188”.9 GAV-26 EDV-26 GKJ-26.
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 699, 626.1
; Per Med Lands:
"The parentage of Hugues is uncertain. He names Robert de Pierrepont as his “avunculus” in the charter dated 1149 quoted below. He could have been either the son of Guillaume de Pierrepont or the son of a sister of Guillaume who inherited Pierrepont after the death of her brothers without direct heirs. As Hugues is named “Hugues de Vasnove” in the 1149 charter, the latter possibility seems more likely. Hugues names “Guy” and “Robert” as his predecessors in the charter dated 19 Jun 1181 quoted below: Robert was presumably his uncle, the identity of Guy has not been ascertained.
"HUGUES de Pierrepont [de “Wasnou/Vasnove”] (-[1188/90]). Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Vasnove” confirmed the donation of “Saumoncey, Beauvoir” to Laon Saint-Martin, donated by “avunculi sui Roberti de Monte-acuto” but which he had wrongly claimed, by charter dated 1149[650]. Seigneur de Pierrepont. The bishop of Laon ratified donations to Tournai Saint-Martin made by “Everardus de Moncellis et Philippus de Turro”, with the consent of “Hugo de Petreponte et uxor eius Clementia et filii eius et filie” from whom the donors held the property in fief, by charter dated 1166[651]. “Hugues de Pierrepont” granted “le sauf-conduit de sa terre de Pierrepont...[et] de Montaigu...” to Valroy, with the consent of “son épouse Clémence et de ses fils Robert et Gautier et des autres”, by charter dated 1170[652]. The bishop of Laon noted that “Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[653]. The Feoda Campanie dated [1172] includes “Hugo de Wasnou…” in De Monte Felicis[654]. Moret de la Fayole records that “Hugo de Petre-Ponte et filius meus Robertus” donated property to Laon Saint-Martin, naming “predecessorum meorum...Widonis et Roberti” and “Galterius et Willelmus filii mei...fratres Roberti primogeniti mei”, with the consent of “uxor mea et uxor filii mei Eustachia”, by charter dated 19 Jun 1181[655]. “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...”[656]. “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” declared “selusam molendini de Brangecort” the property of Tournai Saint-Martin by charter dated 1188[657]. He had died by 1190 when his son Robert was named as seigneur de Pierrepont (see below).
"m CLEMENCE de Rethel, daughter of ITHIER Comte de Rethel Châtelain de Vitry & his wife Beatrix de Namur (-after 1191). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugonem et Manassem cum aliis filiis et filiabus" children of "comitis Witeri de Retest", specifying that another daughter married "Hugo de Petraponte"[658]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Albertum Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis prepositum, comitem de Reytest Manasserum, castellanum Vitriaci Henricum et Hugonem et Balduinum…et tres sorores" as the children of "comiti Guithero Reytestensi" & his wife, naming the third daughter "Clementia, alii dicunt Agatha, [uxor] nobili Hugoni de Wasnou" and their children "Robertum de Petraponte, patrem comitis Iohannis de Rocheio, Galterum de Wasnou, episcopum Hugonem Leodiensem et Margaretam domnam de Eppa, matrem alterius episcopi Leodiensis nomine Iohannis"[659]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Clementia filia comitis Guitherii Reytestensis de prosapia Namucensis" as mother of "Hugo [episcopi Leodiensis]…Roberti de Petraponte et Galtheri de Wasnadino" when recording the bishop's election[660]. The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to the two daughters of "comitissa Retensis [filiam Godefridi comitis Namurcensi]", specifying that "Hugoni de Petraponte" married the second by whom he was father of "Robertus…et Hugonem clericum…Leodiensis…prepositum, archidiaconum et abbatum et postea episcopum"[661]. The bishop of Laon ratified donations to Tournai Saint-Martin made by “Everardus de Moncellis et Philippus de Turro”, with the consent of “Hugo de Petreponte et uxor eius Clementia et filii eius et filie” from whom the donors held the property in fief, by charter dated 1166[662]. “Hugues de Pierrepont” granted “le sauf-conduit de sa terre de Pierrepont...[et] de Montaigu...” to Valroy, with the consent of “son épouse Clémence et de ses fils Robert et Gautier et des autres”, by charter dated 1170[663]. The bishop of Laon noted that “Rogerus de Petreponte” had “olim” donated property to Tournai Saint-Martin, that “Hugo de Petreponte” had later caused damage, repaired by a further donation with the consent of “uxoris sue Clementie et liberorum suorum Roberti, Galteri, Willelmi, Margarete et Beatricis”, by charter dated 1171[664]. “Hugo...dominus Petrepontis” notified an agreement between Tournai Saint-Martin and “Engelardum de Derci...” concerning “terra de Moncellis”, in the presence of “uxoris mee Clementie et filii nostri Roberti”, by charter dated 1183, witnessed by “Galterus et Guillelmi filii mei...”[665]. “Robertus...dominus Petrepontis” approved the renunciation by “mater mea Clementia” in favour of Tournai Saint-Martin of property which she had claimed “post obitum pie memorie Hugonis patris mei...jure dotis” by charter dated 1190[666]. “Clémence dame de Pierrepont [...veuve de Hugues de Pierrepont] et Robert son fils” settled a dispute with Valroy, recording her rights and those of “ses fils Robert et Wautier, Eustachie, épouse de Robert et Béatrice, sa fille” to Valroy, by charter dated 1191[667]."
Med Lands cites:
[650] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 131.
[651] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 100, p. 103.
[652] Valroy, XXVII, p. 165.
[653] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115.
[654] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Les Fiefs, 1ère Partie, p. 21.
[655] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 39.
[656] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135.
[657] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 144, p. 151.
[658] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.
[659] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852.
[660] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1200, MGH SS XXIII, p. 878.
[661] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508.
[662] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 100, p. 103.
[663] Valroy, XXVII, p. 165.
[664] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115.
[665] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135.
[666] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 152, p. 159.
[667] Valroy, L, p. 182.2
[651] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 100, p. 103.
[652] Valroy, XXVII, p. 165.
[653] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115.
[654] Longnon (1901), Tome I, Les Fiefs, 1ère Partie, p. 21.
[655] Moret de la Fayole (1675), p. 39.
[656] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135.
[657] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 144, p. 151.
[658] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.
[659] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852.
[660] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1200, MGH SS XXIII, p. 878.
[661] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508.
[662] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 100, p. 103.
[663] Valroy, XXVII, p. 165.
[664] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 112, p. 115.
[665] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 134, p. 135.
[666] Tournai Saint-Martin, Tome 1, 152, p. 159.
[667] Valroy, L, p. 182.2
Family | Clémence de Réthel d. a 1191 |
Children |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139692&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#HuguesPierrepontdied1188. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139720&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Clemence de Rethel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139693&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#ClemenceRethelMHuguesPierrepont
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes deRethel, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Rethel.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrix de Pierrepont: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139691&tree=LEO
Beatrix de Pierrepont1
F, #60919
Father | Hugues de Pierrepont Sire de Pierrepont1,2,3 b. c 1145, d. c 1188 |
Mother | Clémence de Réthel1,3,4 d. a 1191 |
Reference | GAV24 |
Last Edited | 29 Nov 2020 |
Beatrix de Pierrepont married William de Warenne Lord of Wormgay, son of Reginald de Warenne and Alice/Adeliza de Wormegay,
; his 1st(?) wife.1,5
GAV-24.
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 699.1 Beatrix de Pierrepont was living in 1161.1
; his 1st(?) wife.1,5
GAV-24.
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 699.1 Beatrix de Pierrepont was living in 1161.1
Family | William de Warenne Lord of Wormgay d. bt 1208 - 1209 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrix de Pierrepont: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139691&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139692&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#HuguesPierrepontdied1188. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Clémence de Réthel: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139693&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Warenne page - de Warenne family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/warenne.html
Alice/Adeliza de Wormegay1,2
F, #60920, d. after 1179
Father | William de Wormegay3 |
Reference | GAV25 |
Last Edited | 25 Oct 2004 |
Alice/Adeliza de Wormegay married Reginald de Warenne, son of William II de Warenne 2nd Earl of Surrey, 2nd Earl of Warenne and Isabelle/Elisabeth de Vermandois Countess of Leicester.1
Alice/Adeliza de Wormegay died after 1179.2
GAV-25.
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant,forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Sir Bernard Burke, Reference: 569
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 699.1
Alice/Adeliza de Wormegay died after 1179.2
GAV-25.
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant,forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Sir Bernard Burke, Reference: 569
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 699.1
Family | Reginald de Warenne b. c 1113, d. 1179 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adeliza de Wormegay: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00015439&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1639] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 23 May 2004: "Re: Peter de Valognes/Peter de Valence/Piers de Valoins"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/v8KdQqA2zSY/m/uz35oFhwDgwJ) to e-mail address, 23 May 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 23 May 2004."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Willaim de Wormegay: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00015440&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Warenne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139690&tree=LEO
William de Wormegay1
M, #60921
Reference | GAV26 |
Last Edited | 25 Oct 2004 |
GAV-26.
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant,forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Sir Bernard Burke, Reference: 569
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 699.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant,forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Sir Bernard Burke, Reference: 569
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 699.1
Family | |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Willaim de Wormegay: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00015440&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
Henri de Rethel Chatelain de Vitry1,2
M, #60922, d. circa 1191
Father | Vuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry1,2,3,4 b. c 1100, d. 1171 |
Mother | Béatrice (?) de Namur1,2,5,4 b. a 1101, d. 1160 |
Last Edited | 13 Jun 2020 |
Henri de Rethel Chatelain de Vitry married Helvis (?)6,2
Henri de Rethel Chatelain de Vitry died circa 1191.1,2
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 626.1
; Henri, chatelain de Vitry, +ca 1191; m.Helvis N/Alix de Savigny.2
Henri de Rethel Chatelain de Vitry died circa 1191.1,2
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 626.1
; Henri, chatelain de Vitry, +ca 1191; m.Helvis N/Alix de Savigny.2
Family | Helvis (?) d. a 1191 |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri de Rethel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00208274&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Vuiton/Withier: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076229&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#ItierRetheldied1171. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice de Namur: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027127&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Helvis: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00208275&tree=LEO
Helvis (?)1
F, #60923, d. after 1191
Last Edited | 12 Jan 2004 |
Helvis (?) married Henri de Rethel Chatelain de Vitry, son of Vuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry and Béatrice (?) de Namur.1,2
Helvis (?) died after 1191.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 626.1
Helvis (?) died after 1191.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 626.1
Family | Henri de Rethel Chatelain de Vitry d. c 1191 |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Helvis: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00208275&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
Hugues de Rethel1,2
M, #60924, d. after 1148
Father | Vuiton/Withier (?) Comte de Rethel, Chatelain de Vitry1,2,3,4 b. c 1100, d. 1171 |
Mother | Béatrice (?) de Namur1,2,5,4 b. a 1101, d. 1160 |
Last Edited | 13 Jun 2020 |
Hugues de Rethel died after 1148.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 626.1 He was a mont at Rheims in 1160 at Reims, Departement de la Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France (now).2
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 626.1 He was a mont at Rheims in 1160 at Reims, Departement de la Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France (now).2
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues de Rethel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076230&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Vuiton/Withier: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076229&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#ItierRetheldied1171. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice de Namur: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027127&tree=LEO
Eudes (?) Châtelain de Vitry, Comte de Rethel1,2
M, #60925, d. circa 1158
Reference | GAV28 |
Last Edited | 27 Jul 2020 |
Eudes (?) Châtelain de Vitry, Comte de Rethel married Mathilde de Bourcq Comtesse de Rethel, daughter of Hugues I (?) Comte de Rethel and Mélisende de Montlhéry.3,4,5,6,7,8,2
Eudes (?) Châtelain de Vitry, Comte de Rethel died circa 1158.3,6,2
GAV-28 EDV-26. He was Châtelain de Vitry.2
; This is the same person as ”Odo of Vitry” at Wikipedia and as ”Eudes de Vitry” at Wikipédia (FR).9,10
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"EUDES de Vitry (-[1158]). Châtelain de Vitry. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Odoni castellano Vitriaci" when recording his marriage[366]. No other source has been identified which names Eudes in this capacity or identifies his parentage. Comte de Rethel from [1124], de iure uxoris.
"m MATHILDE de Rethel, daughter of HUGUES [I] Comte de Rethel & his wife Melisende de Monthlery. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildis" as sister of "frater…Balduini de Burgo Gervasius" and her marriage to "Odoni castellano Vitriaci"[367]. William of Tyre records "Mabalda" as first sister of Baudouin II King of Jerusalem, refers to her husband as "castellanus de Vitriaco", and specifies that their son "Iterius" succeeded to Rethel after the death of her brother Gervaise[368]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to "castellanam de Victereio" as daughter of "Hugonem comitem de Retest"[369]. She succeeded as Ctss de Rethel."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Rethel 2): “Eudes, chatelain de Vitry, +ca 1158; m.Cts Matilda de Rethel”
Per Genealogy.EU (Rethel 1): “A4. Mathilde, Cts de Rethel, *1080, +after 1151; m.Eudes, chatelain de Vitry (+ca 1158)”.11,12
; Per Racines et Histoire (Rethel): “Mathilde de Rethel, comtesse de Rethel (1124) ° ~1080 +~1151/52
ép. 1) Henri de Grandpré
ép. 2) Eudes, Châtelain de Vitry, comte de Rethel (~1124) ° ~1085 + ~1158
postérité qui suit (p.5) des seigneurs de la 2nde Maison de Rethel (Vitry)”.13
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE de Rethel . The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildis" as sister of "frater…Balduini de Burgo Gervasius" and records her marriage to "Odoni castellano Vitriaci"[352]. William of Tyre names "Mahaldam" as first sister of Baudouin II King of Jerusalem, refers to her husband as "castellanus de Vitriaco", and specifies that their son "Iterius" succeeded to Rethel after the death of her brother Gervaise[353].
"m EUDES Châtelain de Vitry, son of --- (-[1158]). Comte de Rethel from [1124]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Montlhéry): “Mathilde de Bourcq [dau. of Mélissende de Montlhéry & Hugues 1er de Rethel (ou de Bourcq)]
ép. Eudes de Vitry”.14 He was Comte de Rethel (jure uxoris) between 1124 and 1158.2
Eudes (?) Châtelain de Vitry, Comte de Rethel died circa 1158.3,6,2
GAV-28 EDV-26. He was Châtelain de Vitry.2
; This is the same person as ”Odo of Vitry” at Wikipedia and as ”Eudes de Vitry” at Wikipédia (FR).9,10
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Rupenides,Hethumides and Lusignans, Structure of the Armeno-Cilician dynast. Paris, 1963., W.H. Rudt-Collenberg, Reference: V (J).
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 626.6
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 626.6
; Per Med Lands:
"EUDES de Vitry (-[1158]). Châtelain de Vitry. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Odoni castellano Vitriaci" when recording his marriage[366]. No other source has been identified which names Eudes in this capacity or identifies his parentage. Comte de Rethel from [1124], de iure uxoris.
"m MATHILDE de Rethel, daughter of HUGUES [I] Comte de Rethel & his wife Melisende de Monthlery. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildis" as sister of "frater…Balduini de Burgo Gervasius" and her marriage to "Odoni castellano Vitriaci"[367]. William of Tyre records "Mabalda" as first sister of Baudouin II King of Jerusalem, refers to her husband as "castellanus de Vitriaco", and specifies that their son "Iterius" succeeded to Rethel after the death of her brother Gervaise[368]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to "castellanam de Victereio" as daughter of "Hugonem comitem de Retest"[369]. She succeeded as Ctss de Rethel."
Med Lands cites:
[366] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116, MGH SS XXIII, p. 822.
[367] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116, MGH SS XXIII, p. 822.
[368] William of Tyre XII.I, pp. 511-2.
[369] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.
[370] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.2
[367] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116, MGH SS XXIII, p. 822.
[368] William of Tyre XII.I, pp. 511-2.
[369] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.
[370] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.2
; Per Genealogy.EU (Rethel 2): “Eudes, chatelain de Vitry, +ca 1158; m.Cts Matilda de Rethel”
Per Genealogy.EU (Rethel 1): “A4. Mathilde, Cts de Rethel, *1080, +after 1151; m.Eudes, chatelain de Vitry (+ca 1158)”.11,12
; Per Racines et Histoire (Rethel): “Mathilde de Rethel, comtesse de Rethel (1124) ° ~1080 +~1151/52
ép. 1) Henri de Grandpré
ép. 2) Eudes, Châtelain de Vitry, comte de Rethel (~1124) ° ~1085 + ~1158
postérité qui suit (p.5) des seigneurs de la 2nde Maison de Rethel (Vitry)”.13
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE de Rethel . The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildis" as sister of "frater…Balduini de Burgo Gervasius" and records her marriage to "Odoni castellano Vitriaci"[352]. William of Tyre names "Mahaldam" as first sister of Baudouin II King of Jerusalem, refers to her husband as "castellanus de Vitriaco", and specifies that their son "Iterius" succeeded to Rethel after the death of her brother Gervaise[353].
"m EUDES Châtelain de Vitry, son of --- (-[1158]). Comte de Rethel from [1124]."
Med Lands cites:
[352] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116, MGH SS XXIII, p. 822.
[353] William of Tyre, XII.I, pp. 511-2.8
[353] William of Tyre, XII.I, pp. 511-2.8
; Per Racines et Histoire (Montlhéry): “Mathilde de Bourcq [dau. of Mélissende de Montlhéry & Hugues 1er de Rethel (ou de Bourcq)]
ép. Eudes de Vitry”.14 He was Comte de Rethel (jure uxoris) between 1124 and 1158.2
Family | Mathilde de Bourcq Comtesse de Rethel b. 1080, d. a 1151 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eudes: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076231&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#EudesVitrydied1158. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 1 page - Rethel family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel1.html
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, The Rupenides, Hethumides and Lusignans: The Structure of the Armeno-Cilician Dynasties (11, Rude de Lille, Paris 7e, France: Librairie C. Klincksieck for the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation Armenian Library (Lisbon), 1963), Chart A (R1): Relationship Table XII - XIII Century. Hereinafter cited as Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc.
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc., Chart V (J): The House of the Kings of Jerusalem.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eudes: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076231&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076232&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#MathildeRethelMEudesVitry
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odo_of_Vitry. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Eudes de Vitry: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudes_de_Vitry. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Rethel family (Rethel 1): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel1.html#Mat
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Rethel, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Rethel.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Montlhéry, Bray-sur-Seine, La Ferté-Milon, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Montlhery.pdf
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Rethel, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Rethel.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Vuiton/Withier: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076229&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#ItierRetheldied1171
Mathilde de Bourcq Comtesse de Rethel1,2,3,4,5
F, #60926, b. 1080, d. after 1151
Father | Hugues I (?) Comte de Rethel6,2,3,4,7,8,9,10 b. 1030, d. 28 Dec 1118 |
Mother | Mélisende de Montlhéry2,4,11,5,6,10 b. 1045, d. c 1097 |
Reference | GAV26 EDV26 |
Last Edited | 27 Jul 2020 |
Mathilde de Bourcq Comtesse de Rethel married Eudes (?) Châtelain de Vitry, Comte de Rethel.2,3,4,12,6,10,13
Mathilde de Bourcq Comtesse de Rethel was born in 1080.2
Mathilde de Bourcq Comtesse de Rethel died after 1151.1,2
; Per Med Lands:
"EUDES de Vitry (-[1158]). Châtelain de Vitry. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Odoni castellano Vitriaci" when recording his marriage[366]. No other source has been identified which names Eudes in this capacity or identifies his parentage. Comte de Rethel from [1124], de iure uxoris.
"m MATHILDE de Rethel, daughter of HUGUES [I] Comte de Rethel & his wife Melisende de Monthlery. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildis" as sister of "frater…Balduini de Burgo Gervasius" and her marriage to "Odoni castellano Vitriaci"[367]. William of Tyre records "Mabalda" as first sister of Baudouin II King of Jerusalem, refers to her husband as "castellanus de Vitriaco", and specifies that their son "Iterius" succeeded to Rethel after the death of her brother Gervaise[368]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to "castellanam de Victereio" as daughter of "Hugonem comitem de Retest"[369]. She succeeded as Ctss de Rethel."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Rethel 2): “Eudes, chatelain de Vitry, +ca 1158; m.Cts Matilda de Rethel”
Per Genealogy.EU (Rethel 1): “A4. Mathilde, Cts de Rethel, *1080, +after 1151; m.Eudes, chatelain de Vitry (+ca 1158)”.14,15
; This is the same person as ”Matilda, Countess of Rethel” at Wikipedia and as ”Mathilde de Rethel” at Wikipédia (FR).16,17
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE de Rethel . The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildis" as sister of "frater…Balduini de Burgo Gervasius" and records her marriage to "Odoni castellano Vitriaci"[352]. William of Tyre names "Mahaldam" as first sister of Baudouin II King of Jerusalem, refers to her husband as "castellanus de Vitriaco", and specifies that their son "Iterius" succeeded to Rethel after the death of her brother Gervaise[353].
"m EUDES Châtelain de Vitry, son of --- (-[1158]). Comte de Rethel from [1124]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Montlhéry): “Mathilde de Bourcq [dau. of Mélissende de Montlhéry & Hugues 1er de Rethel (ou de Bourcq)]
ép. Eudes de Vitry”.5
; Per Racines et Histoire (Rethel): “Mathilde de Rethel, comtesse de Rethel (1124) ° ~1080 +~1151/52
ép. 1) Henri de Grandpré
ép. 2) Eudes, Châtelain de Vitry, comte de Rethel (~1124) ° ~1085 + ~1158
postérité qui suit (p.5) des seigneurs de la 2nde Maison de Rethel (Vitry)”.18 She was Comtesse de Rethel (succeeded her brother Gervais as Countess suo jure of Rethel) between 1124 and 1151.17,16 She was living in 1151.6
Mathilde de Bourcq Comtesse de Rethel was born in 1080.2
Mathilde de Bourcq Comtesse de Rethel died after 1151.1,2
; Per Med Lands:
"EUDES de Vitry (-[1158]). Châtelain de Vitry. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Odoni castellano Vitriaci" when recording his marriage[366]. No other source has been identified which names Eudes in this capacity or identifies his parentage. Comte de Rethel from [1124], de iure uxoris.
"m MATHILDE de Rethel, daughter of HUGUES [I] Comte de Rethel & his wife Melisende de Monthlery. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildis" as sister of "frater…Balduini de Burgo Gervasius" and her marriage to "Odoni castellano Vitriaci"[367]. William of Tyre records "Mabalda" as first sister of Baudouin II King of Jerusalem, refers to her husband as "castellanus de Vitriaco", and specifies that their son "Iterius" succeeded to Rethel after the death of her brother Gervaise[368]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to "castellanam de Victereio" as daughter of "Hugonem comitem de Retest"[369]. She succeeded as Ctss de Rethel."
Med Lands cites:
[366] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116, MGH SS XXIII, p. 822.
[367] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116, MGH SS XXIII, p. 822.
[368] William of Tyre XII.I, pp. 511-2.
[369] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.
[370] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.13
[367] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116, MGH SS XXIII, p. 822.
[368] William of Tyre XII.I, pp. 511-2.
[369] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.
[370] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 253.13
; Per Genealogy.EU (Rethel 2): “Eudes, chatelain de Vitry, +ca 1158; m.Cts Matilda de Rethel”
Per Genealogy.EU (Rethel 1): “A4. Mathilde, Cts de Rethel, *1080, +after 1151; m.Eudes, chatelain de Vitry (+ca 1158)”.14,15
; This is the same person as ”Matilda, Countess of Rethel” at Wikipedia and as ”Mathilde de Rethel” at Wikipédia (FR).16,17
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Rupenides,Hethumides and Lusignans, Structure of the Armeno-Cilician dynast. Paris, 1963., W.H. Rudt-Collenberg, Reference: V (J).
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 625.6
GAV-26 EDV-26. 2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 625.6
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE de Rethel . The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mathildis" as sister of "frater…Balduini de Burgo Gervasius" and records her marriage to "Odoni castellano Vitriaci"[352]. William of Tyre names "Mahaldam" as first sister of Baudouin II King of Jerusalem, refers to her husband as "castellanus de Vitriaco", and specifies that their son "Iterius" succeeded to Rethel after the death of her brother Gervaise[353].
"m EUDES Châtelain de Vitry, son of --- (-[1158]). Comte de Rethel from [1124]."
Med Lands cites:
[352] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116, MGH SS XXIII, p. 822.
[353] William of Tyre, XII.I, pp. 511-2.10
[353] William of Tyre, XII.I, pp. 511-2.10
; Per Racines et Histoire (Montlhéry): “Mathilde de Bourcq [dau. of Mélissende de Montlhéry & Hugues 1er de Rethel (ou de Bourcq)]
ép. Eudes de Vitry”.5
; Per Racines et Histoire (Rethel): “Mathilde de Rethel, comtesse de Rethel (1124) ° ~1080 +~1151/52
ép. 1) Henri de Grandpré
ép. 2) Eudes, Châtelain de Vitry, comte de Rethel (~1124) ° ~1085 + ~1158
postérité qui suit (p.5) des seigneurs de la 2nde Maison de Rethel (Vitry)”.18 She was Comtesse de Rethel (succeeded her brother Gervais as Countess suo jure of Rethel) between 1124 and 1151.17,16 She was living in 1151.6
Family | Eudes (?) Châtelain de Vitry, Comte de Rethel d. c 1158 |
Children |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076232&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 1 page - Rethel family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel1.html
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, The Rupenides, Hethumides and Lusignans: The Structure of the Armeno-Cilician Dynasties (11, Rude de Lille, Paris 7e, France: Librairie C. Klincksieck for the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation Armenian Library (Lisbon), 1963), Chart A (R1): Relationship Table XII - XIII Century. Hereinafter cited as Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc.
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc., Chart V (J): The House of the Kings of Jerusalem.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Montlhéry, Bray-sur-Seine, La Ferté-Milon, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Montlhery.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076232&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076235&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#HuguesIRetheldied1118. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Hugues Ier de Rethel: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugues_Ier_de_Rethel. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#MathildeRethelMEudesVitry
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mélisende de Monthléry: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076236&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eudes: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076231&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#EudesVitrydied1158
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Rethel family (Rethel 1): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel1.html#Mat
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilda,_Countess_of_Rethel. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S4742] Wikipédia (FR), online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Mathilde de Rethel: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathilde_de_Rethel
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Rethel, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Rethel.pdf
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Rethel, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Rethel.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Vuiton/Withier: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076229&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#ItierRetheldied1171
Hodierne de Réthel1,2,3,4
F, #60927, d. after 1126
Father | Hugues I (?) Comte de Rethel1,2,3,4,5,6,7 b. 1030, d. 28 Dec 1118 |
Mother | Mélisende de Montlhéry1,2,3,4,8 b. 1045, d. c 1097 |
Last Edited | 12 Jun 2020 |
Hodierne de Réthel married Heribrand III d'Hiérges Châtelain de Bouillon, son of Heribrand II d'Hiérges Châtelain de Bouillon and Hedwige d'Orchimont,
; her 1st husband.9,2,3,4 Hodierne de Réthel married Roger de Hauteville Prince of Antioch, son of Richard de Hauteville du Principat, conte di Mottola, Castellaneta e Oria, Regent of Edessa and Altrude de Montferrato, in 1114
; her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife.2,3,4
Hodierne de Réthel died after 1126.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 626.1 She was living in 1126.1
; her 1st husband.9,2,3,4 Hodierne de Réthel married Roger de Hauteville Prince of Antioch, son of Richard de Hauteville du Principat, conte di Mottola, Castellaneta e Oria, Regent of Edessa and Altrude de Montferrato, in 1114
; her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife.2,3,4
Hodierne de Réthel died after 1126.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 626.1 She was living in 1126.1
Family 1 | Heribrand III d'Hiérges Châtelain de Bouillon d. 1114 |
Child |
|
Family 2 | Roger de Hauteville Prince of Antioch b. b 1085, d. 27 Jun 1119 |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hodierne de Rethel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198370&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 1 page - Rethel family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel1.html
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, The Rupenides, Hethumides and Lusignans: The Structure of the Armeno-Cilician Dynasties (11, Rude de Lille, Paris 7e, France: Librairie C. Klincksieck for the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation Armenian Library (Lisbon), 1963), Chart V (J): The House of the Kings of Jerusalem. Hereinafter cited as Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Antioche.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076235&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#HuguesIRetheldied1118. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Hugues Ier de Rethel: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugues_Ier_de_Rethel. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mélisende de Monthléry: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076236&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heribrand III d'Hiérges: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198369&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Manassès d'Hiérges: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106164&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#ManassesHiergesdied1176
Heribrand III d'Hiérges Châtelain de Bouillon1
M, #60928, d. 1114
Father | Heribrand II d'Hiérges Châtelain de Bouillon3,1 |
Mother | Hedwige d'Orchimont2,1 |
Last Edited | 12 Jun 2020 |
Heribrand III d'Hiérges Châtelain de Bouillon married Hodierne de Réthel, daughter of Hugues I (?) Comte de Rethel and Mélisende de Montlhéry,
; her 1st husband.1,4,5,6
Heribrand III d'Hiérges Châtelain de Bouillon died in 1114.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 628.1
; her 1st husband.1,4,5,6
Heribrand III d'Hiérges Châtelain de Bouillon died in 1114.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 628.1
Family | Hodierne de Réthel d. a 1126 |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heribrand III d'Hiérges: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198369&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hedwige d'Orchimont: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198372&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heribrand II d'Hiérges: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198371&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 1 page - Rethel family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel1.html
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, The Rupenides, Hethumides and Lusignans: The Structure of the Armeno-Cilician Dynasties (11, Rude de Lille, Paris 7e, France: Librairie C. Klincksieck for the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation Armenian Library (Lisbon), 1963), Chart V (J): The House of the Kings of Jerusalem. Hereinafter cited as Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Antioche.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Manassès d'Hiérges: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106164&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#ManassesHiergesdied1176. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Beatrice/Cecile de Rethel1,2,3,4
F, #60929
Father | Hugues I (?) Comte de Rethel1,2,3,5,4,6,7,8 b. 1030, d. 28 Dec 1118 |
Mother | Mélisende de Montlhéry1,2,3,4,9 b. 1045, d. c 1097 |
Last Edited | 3 Apr 2020 |
Beatrice/Cecile de Rethel married Leo I (?) Lord of the Mountains, son of Constantine/Kostandin I (?) Lord of Vaghka & Partzerpert and NN Phokas,
; his 1st wife.10,2,3,5,4,11
; Leo van de Pas cites: The Rupenides,Hethumides and Lusignans, Structure of the Armeno-Cilician dynast. Paris, 1963., W.H. Rudt-Collenberg, Reference: I RUP.1
; his 1st wife.10,2,3,5,4,11
; Leo van de Pas cites: The Rupenides,Hethumides and Lusignans, Structure of the Armeno-Cilician dynast. Paris, 1963., W.H. Rudt-Collenberg, Reference: I RUP.1
Family | Leo I (?) Lord of the Mountains d. 14 Feb 1140 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Béatrice/Cecile de Rethel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139824&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 1 page - Rethel family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel1.html
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, The Rupenides, Hethumides and Lusignans: The Structure of the Armeno-Cilician Dynasties (11, Rude de Lille, Paris 7e, France: Librairie C. Klincksieck for the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation Armenian Library (Lisbon), 1963), Chart I (Rup.). Hereinafter cited as Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc.
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc., Chart V (J): The House of the Kings of Jerusalem.
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc., Chart A (R1): Relationship Table XII - XIII Century.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076235&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#HuguesIRetheldied1118. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Hugues Ier de Rethel: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugues_Ier_de_Rethel. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mélisende de Monthléry: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076236&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Leo I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139823&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Armenia 1 page - The Rupenids: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/armenia1.html
Leo I (?) Lord of the Mountains1,2
M, #60930, d. 14 February 1140
Father | Constantine/Kostandin I (?) Lord of Vaghka & Partzerpert1,3,2,4,5 b. bt 1040 - 1045, d. 24 Jan 1102 |
Mother | NN Phokas5 |
Last Edited | 2 Jul 2020 |
Leo I (?) Lord of the Mountains married Beatrice/Cecile de Rethel, daughter of Hugues I (?) Comte de Rethel and Mélisende de Montlhéry,
; his 1st wife.1,6,3,7,8,2
Leo I (?) Lord of the Mountains died on 14 February 1140; Armenia 1 page says d. 1138.1,6,3,2
; Leo van de Pas cites: The Rupenides,Hethumides and Lusignans, Structure of the Armeno-Cilician dynast. Paris, 1963., W.H. Rudt-Collenberg, Reference: I RUP.1
; Leo I, Prince of Armenia (1129-38), +1138, captured by Joannes II of Byzantium; m.Beatrice de Rethel.2 Leo I (?) Lord of the Mountains was also known as Leon (?) Lord of the Mountains.9 He was Lord of the Mountains between 1129 and 1139.3
; his 1st wife.1,6,3,7,8,2
Leo I (?) Lord of the Mountains died on 14 February 1140; Armenia 1 page says d. 1138.1,6,3,2
; Leo van de Pas cites: The Rupenides,Hethumides and Lusignans, Structure of the Armeno-Cilician dynast. Paris, 1963., W.H. Rudt-Collenberg, Reference: I RUP.1
; Leo I, Prince of Armenia (1129-38), +1138, captured by Joannes II of Byzantium; m.Beatrice de Rethel.2 Leo I (?) Lord of the Mountains was also known as Leon (?) Lord of the Mountains.9 He was Lord of the Mountains between 1129 and 1139.3
Family 1 | |
Child |
Family 2 | Beatrice/Cecile de Rethel |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Leo I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139823&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Armenia 1 page - The Rupenids: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/armenia1.html
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, The Rupenides, Hethumides and Lusignans: The Structure of the Armeno-Cilician Dynasties (11, Rude de Lille, Paris 7e, France: Librairie C. Klincksieck for the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation Armenian Library (Lisbon), 1963), Chart I (Rup.). Hereinafter cited as Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Constantine: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139822&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BYZANTIUM.htm#dauMConstantineVaghkaPartzerpert. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 1 page - Rethel family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel1.html
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc., Chart A (R1): Relationship Table XII - XIII Century.
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc., Chart V (J): The House of the Kings of Jerusalem.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Byzant 1 page (The Komnenos family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/byzant/byzant1.html