Anseau de Garlande Comte de Rochefort1
M, #56161
Last Edited | 3 Oct 2020 |
Anseau de Garlande Comte de Rochefort married NN de Rochefort-en-Yvelines, daughter of Guy II "le Rouge" de Montlhéry Comte de Rochefort-en-Yvelines and Elisabeth (?).2
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN de Rochefort-en-Yvelines: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120975&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
Simon de Dreux1
M, #56162, b. 1141
Father | Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle1,2,3 b. c 1123, d. 11 Oct 1188 |
Mother | Agnès de Garlande dame de Rochefort1 b. 1122, d. 1143 |
Last Edited | 3 Oct 2020 |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013794&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#RobertIDreuxdied1188B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Jean de la Tournell1
M, #56163, d. before 1243
Last Edited | 16 Mar 2020 |
Jean de la Tournell married Marie de Thourotte, daughter of Jean III de Thourotte Seigneur de Beaufort,
;
Her 1st husband.1,2
Jean de la Tournell died before 1243.1
;
Her 1st husband.1,2
Jean de la Tournell died before 1243.1
Family | Marie de Thourotte |
Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#MarieThourotteM2JeanRethel. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Thourotte (alias Thorotte), p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Thourotte.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
Galeran (Waleran/Valeran) III de Breteuil seigneur de Breteuil1,2,3,4,5
M, #56164, b. between 1116 and 1134, d. between 1162 and 1163
Father | Evrard III de Breteuil Comte de Breteuil7,4,5,2 d. c 1147 |
Mother | Basilie/Beatrix/Beatrice de Coucy6,4,5 d. a 1156 |
Reference | EDV26 GKJ25 |
Last Edited | 26 Nov 2020 |
Galeran (Waleran/Valeran) III de Breteuil seigneur de Breteuil was born between 1116 and 1134.2 He married Holdeburge (?) Dame d'Ailly-sur-Noye et de Tartigny, daughter of NN (?) Seigneur d'Ailly-sur-Noye and Beatrix de Beauvais, in 1153
;
His 1st wife.8,4,5,2 Galeran (Waleran/Valeran) III de Breteuil seigneur de Breteuil married Adèle/Alix de Dreux Dame de Montjay, daughter of Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle and Hawise (?) of Salisbury, after 24 June 1156
;
Her 1st husband; his 2nd wife.1,9,4,5,2,10,11
Galeran (Waleran/Valeran) III de Breteuil seigneur de Breteuil died between 1162 and 1163.4,11,2
EDV-26 GKJ-25.
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 654.4
; Per Med Lands:
"VALERAN [III] de Breteuil (-[1162]). “Miles Evrardus Britulensium dominus et filii eius Walerannus, Evrardus...avocaturam et vicecomitatum” donated property “in villa et in terra de Tilleto” to Lannoy abbey by charter dated to [1136][883]. Odon Bishop of Beauvais confirmed donations to Lannoy, including the donation of property “in villa et in terra Teoleti” made by “Everardus Britolii dominus et filii eius Walerannus, Everardus et Hugo”, by charter dated 1140[884]. “Dominus Brituliensis Ebrardus” donated “partem suam vicecomitatus...in terris et villis matris ecclesie Ambianensis” to Amiens Notre-Dame in the same way that "Manasses dominus Conteiensis" donated his part, with the consent of "filiis suis Gualeranno et Ebrardo", by charter dated to [1142][885]. Seigneur de Breteuil.
"m firstly HOLDEBURGE Dame d'Ailly-sur-Noye et de Tartigny, daughter of --- [Seigneur d’Ailly-sur-Noye] & his wife Beatrix de Bulles (-after 24 Jun 1156). A charter dated 1153 records that “Galerannum de Britoglio” donated property at Champmartin at Rueil-sur-Bèche to Froidmont abbey, with the consent of “Hugone fratre suo...et Holdeburge uxore Galeranni, Aalsi et Mathilde filiabus eius”[886]. “Holdeburgis domina Britoglii” on her deathbed donated the tolls of Hermes-sur-le-Thérain to Variville priory, with the consent of “Beatricis matris sue...domini Waleranni Britolii predicte Holdeburgis mariti”, by charter dated 24 Jun 1156[887].
"m secondly ([1156/60]) as her first husband, ALIX de Dreux, daughter of ROBERT [I] Seigneur de Dreux et du Perche [Capet] & his first wife Hawise de Salisbury ([1145/46]-[Jan 1205/Mar 1210], bur église collégiale de Dreux). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydam" as the daughter of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" & his first wife, naming her first husband "Gallerano de Bertuilh", her second husband "Guidone de Castellone", her third husband "Iohanne castellano Noviomensi" and her fourth husband "comite Suessionensi"[888]. She married secondly (1161) Guy [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, thirdly Jean [I] Seigneur de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon et de Coucy, and fourthly (1182 or before) as his first wife, Raoul de Nesle Comte de Soissons."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Breteuil): “1) Galeran (Valeran) III de Breteuil ° entre 1116 et 1134 + 1162/63 comte de Breteuil (1148)
ép. 1) 1153 Holdeburge + après 24/06/1156 dame d’Ailly-sur-Noye et de Tartigny (fille de ? et de Béatrix)
ép. 2) ~1160 Alix (Adèle) de Dreux ° 1145/46 + entre 01/1205 et 03/1210 (fille de Robert 1er «Le Grand» de Dreux et d’Hawise de Salisbury (alias Havise de Rosmar(e) ; ép. 2) 1161 Gui II, seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne + 1172 ; ép. 3) 1174 Jean 1er de Thourotte, Châtelain de Noyon + 1176/77 ; ép. 4) 1183 Raoul III de Nesle (1er de Soissons), comte de Soissons + 04/01/1235)”.2
; Per Med Lands:
"HOLDEBURGE (-after 24 Jun 1156). A charter dated 1136 records various donations to Trie Sainte-Marie including “domina Adelidis de Buglis et filii eius Lancelinus...Manasses et Rainaldus sororque eorum Beatrix et eiusdem Beatricis filii Hildeburgis et Mathildis” who donated “in...terræ Hermarum...Hez...et Hulsoy...”[1048]. A charter dated 1153 records that “Galerannum de Britoglio” donated property at Champmartin at Rueil-sur-Bèche to Froidmont abbey, with the consent of “Hugone fratre suo...et Holdeburge uxore Galeranni, Aalsi et Mathilde filiabus eius”[1049]. Dame d'Ailly-sur-Noye et de Tartigny. “Holdeburgis domina Britoglii” on her deathbed donated the tolls of Hermes-sur-le-Thérain to Variville priory, with the consent of “Beatricis matris sue...domini Waleranni Britolii predicte Holdeburgis mariti”, by charter dated 24 Jun 1156[1050].
"m as his first wife, VALERAN [III] Seigneur de Breteuil, son of ERARD [III] Comte de Breteuil & his first wife Beatrix de Coucy (-[1162])."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Dreux): “1) Alix (Adèle) de Dreux ° 1145/46 + entre 01/1205 et 03/1210 (citée chartes de donation à Notre-Dame d’Ourscamp 1199 et au Tremblay 01/1205)
ép. 1) après 24/06/1156 (1160 ?) Valeran III, comte de Breteuil + 1162 (fils d’Erard III «Le Vaillant» de Breteuil et de Béatrix de Coucy ou de Basilie de Bulles ? ; veuf de Holdeburge, dame d’Ailly-sur-Noye (80))
ép. 2) 1162/66 Gui II de Châtillon, seigneur de Châtillon et de Montjay + ~1170 (fils de Gaucher II de Châtillon et d’Ade de Roucy, dame de Pierrefonds)
ép. 3) ~1170 Jean 1er de Thourotte + 1176/77 châtelain de Noyon et Coucy (fils de Jean, Châtelain de Coucy, et d’Adélaïde, ou de Roger de Thourotte et de Hadevide ?)
ép. 4) dès 1182 Raoul III de Nesle (1er de Soissons) + 04/01/1235 comte de Soissons, Châtelain de Bruges (fils de Raoul de Nesle, Châtelain de Bruges, et de Gertrude de Montaigu ; ép. 2) ~1210 Yolande de Joinville + ~1212 ; ép. 3) ~1223 Ade d’Avesnes + ~1249)”.13
; Per Med Lands:
"ALIX de Dreux ([1145/46]-[Jan 1205/Mar 1210], bur église collégiale de Dreux). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydam" as the daughter of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" and his first wife, naming her first husband "Gallerano de Bertuilh", her second husband "Guidone de Castellone", her third husband "Iohanne castellano Noviomensi" and her fourth husband "comite Suessionensi"[31]. A charter dated 1170 records that “Johannes Noviomensis et Torotencis castellanus” granted exemptions from duties on wine to Saint-Amand, as well as the settlement of a later dispute with the consent of “fratres mei Guido [...defunctus]...et Ivo...Aalis uxor mea et ceteri fratres mei Rainaldus, Robertus et Petrus”[32]. "Adelais comitissa Suessionensis et domina Montis Gaii" confirmed the donation of property to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, for the soul of "domini Guidonis de Castellione viri mei", by charter dated 1182[33]. "Gaucherius de Castellione dominus Montisgaii" donated property to Saint-Maur des Fossés, for the soul of "fratris mei Guidonis", with the consent of "domina Adelaide matre mea comitissa Suessionensi et domina Adelaide sorore mea uxore domini Guillelmi de Garlanda", by charter dated 1194[34]. "Radulfus comes Suessionensis…Aalidis uxor mea" confirmed a donation to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated 1199[35]. "Radulfus (Suessionis) dominus Montis Gaii et Adelidis uxor mee" confirmed a previous donation of property to Tremblay by "filius noster Gaucherus de Castillione" by charter dated Jan 1205[36], although Gauthier was the son of Raoul's wife by her second marriage.
"m firstly ([1156/60]) as his second wife, VALERAN [III] Seigneur de Breteuil, son of ERARD [III] "le Vaillant" Seigneur de Breteuil & his first wife Beatrix de Coucy (-1162).
"m secondly ([1162/66]) GUY [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, son of GAUCHER [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne & his wife Ada de Roucy (-[1170], bur église collégiale de Dreux).
"m thirdly ([1170]) JEAN [I] Seigneur de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon et de Coucy, son of ROGER Seigneur de Thourotte & his wife Havide --- (-[1176/77]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Guidonem et Iohannem de Torota" as the children of "Alaydis [filia comitem de Brana Robertum domnum]" and her third husband, specifying that Jean was father of "Iohannis et Rodulfi Virdunensis et Roberti Ledodiensis episcoporum"[37]. In a later passage, the same source names him "Iohannes castellanus Noviomensis frater castellanorum de Coci" and adding that he was father of "Iohannem de Torota qui sororem habuit domni de Dampetra"[38].
"m fourthly (1182 or before) as his first wife, RAOUL de Nesle Comte de Soissons, son of RAOUL Seigneur de Nesle, Châtelain de Bruges & his wife Gertrude de Montaigu (-4 Jan 1235)."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Adele, *1144/45, living 1210; 1m: after 24.6.1156 Cte Valeran III de Breteuil; 2m: 1161/2 Guy II, sn de Chatillon; 3m: Jean I de Thorotte (+1176/77); 4m: before 1183 Raoul I de Nesle, Cte de Soissons (+1235.)1"
;
His 1st wife.8,4,5,2 Galeran (Waleran/Valeran) III de Breteuil seigneur de Breteuil married Adèle/Alix de Dreux Dame de Montjay, daughter of Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle and Hawise (?) of Salisbury, after 24 June 1156
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Her 1st husband; his 2nd wife.1,9,4,5,2,10,11
Galeran (Waleran/Valeran) III de Breteuil seigneur de Breteuil died between 1162 and 1163.4,11,2
EDV-26 GKJ-25.
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 654.4
; Per Med Lands:
"VALERAN [III] de Breteuil (-[1162]). “Miles Evrardus Britulensium dominus et filii eius Walerannus, Evrardus...avocaturam et vicecomitatum” donated property “in villa et in terra de Tilleto” to Lannoy abbey by charter dated to [1136][883]. Odon Bishop of Beauvais confirmed donations to Lannoy, including the donation of property “in villa et in terra Teoleti” made by “Everardus Britolii dominus et filii eius Walerannus, Everardus et Hugo”, by charter dated 1140[884]. “Dominus Brituliensis Ebrardus” donated “partem suam vicecomitatus...in terris et villis matris ecclesie Ambianensis” to Amiens Notre-Dame in the same way that "Manasses dominus Conteiensis" donated his part, with the consent of "filiis suis Gualeranno et Ebrardo", by charter dated to [1142][885]. Seigneur de Breteuil.
"m firstly HOLDEBURGE Dame d'Ailly-sur-Noye et de Tartigny, daughter of --- [Seigneur d’Ailly-sur-Noye] & his wife Beatrix de Bulles (-after 24 Jun 1156). A charter dated 1153 records that “Galerannum de Britoglio” donated property at Champmartin at Rueil-sur-Bèche to Froidmont abbey, with the consent of “Hugone fratre suo...et Holdeburge uxore Galeranni, Aalsi et Mathilde filiabus eius”[886]. “Holdeburgis domina Britoglii” on her deathbed donated the tolls of Hermes-sur-le-Thérain to Variville priory, with the consent of “Beatricis matris sue...domini Waleranni Britolii predicte Holdeburgis mariti”, by charter dated 24 Jun 1156[887].
"m secondly ([1156/60]) as her first husband, ALIX de Dreux, daughter of ROBERT [I] Seigneur de Dreux et du Perche [Capet] & his first wife Hawise de Salisbury ([1145/46]-[Jan 1205/Mar 1210], bur église collégiale de Dreux). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydam" as the daughter of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" & his first wife, naming her first husband "Gallerano de Bertuilh", her second husband "Guidone de Castellone", her third husband "Iohanne castellano Noviomensi" and her fourth husband "comite Suessionensi"[888]. She married secondly (1161) Guy [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, thirdly Jean [I] Seigneur de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon et de Coucy, and fourthly (1182 or before) as his first wife, Raoul de Nesle Comte de Soissons."
Med Lands cites:
[883] Lannoy, Tome X, III, p. 630.
[884] Lannoy, Tome X, VII, p. 633.
[885] Amiens, I, 16, p. 23.
[886] Dion (1884) Seigneurs de Breteuil, p. 23, quoting Moreau, t. LI, fol. 41.
[887] Dion (1884) Seigneurs de Breteuil, p. 23, quoting Moreau, t. LXVIII, fol. 35, d’après les archives de Variville.
[888] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 845-6.5
[884] Lannoy, Tome X, VII, p. 633.
[885] Amiens, I, 16, p. 23.
[886] Dion (1884) Seigneurs de Breteuil, p. 23, quoting Moreau, t. LI, fol. 41.
[887] Dion (1884) Seigneurs de Breteuil, p. 23, quoting Moreau, t. LXVIII, fol. 35, d’après les archives de Variville.
[888] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 845-6.5
; Per Racines et Histoire (Breteuil): “1) Galeran (Valeran) III de Breteuil ° entre 1116 et 1134 + 1162/63 comte de Breteuil (1148)
ép. 1) 1153 Holdeburge + après 24/06/1156 dame d’Ailly-sur-Noye et de Tartigny (fille de ? et de Béatrix)
ép. 2) ~1160 Alix (Adèle) de Dreux ° 1145/46 + entre 01/1205 et 03/1210 (fille de Robert 1er «Le Grand» de Dreux et d’Hawise de Salisbury (alias Havise de Rosmar(e) ; ép. 2) 1161 Gui II, seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne + 1172 ; ép. 3) 1174 Jean 1er de Thourotte, Châtelain de Noyon + 1176/77 ; ép. 4) 1183 Raoul III de Nesle (1er de Soissons), comte de Soissons + 04/01/1235)”.2
; Per Med Lands:
"HOLDEBURGE (-after 24 Jun 1156). A charter dated 1136 records various donations to Trie Sainte-Marie including “domina Adelidis de Buglis et filii eius Lancelinus...Manasses et Rainaldus sororque eorum Beatrix et eiusdem Beatricis filii Hildeburgis et Mathildis” who donated “in...terræ Hermarum...Hez...et Hulsoy...”[1048]. A charter dated 1153 records that “Galerannum de Britoglio” donated property at Champmartin at Rueil-sur-Bèche to Froidmont abbey, with the consent of “Hugone fratre suo...et Holdeburge uxore Galeranni, Aalsi et Mathilde filiabus eius”[1049]. Dame d'Ailly-sur-Noye et de Tartigny. “Holdeburgis domina Britoglii” on her deathbed donated the tolls of Hermes-sur-le-Thérain to Variville priory, with the consent of “Beatricis matris sue...domini Waleranni Britolii predicte Holdeburgis mariti”, by charter dated 24 Jun 1156[1050].
"m as his first wife, VALERAN [III] Seigneur de Breteuil, son of ERARD [III] Comte de Breteuil & his first wife Beatrix de Coucy (-[1162])."
Med Lands cites:
[1048] Louvet (1631), Tome I, p. 576.
[1049] Dion (1884) Seigneurs de Breteuil, p. 23, quoting Moreau, t. LI, fol. 41.
[1050] Dion (1884) Seigneurs de Breteuil, p. 23, quoting Moreau, t. LXVIII, fol. 35, d’après les archives de Variville.12
[1049] Dion (1884) Seigneurs de Breteuil, p. 23, quoting Moreau, t. LI, fol. 41.
[1050] Dion (1884) Seigneurs de Breteuil, p. 23, quoting Moreau, t. LXVIII, fol. 35, d’après les archives de Variville.12
; Per Racines et Histoire (Dreux): “1) Alix (Adèle) de Dreux ° 1145/46 + entre 01/1205 et 03/1210 (citée chartes de donation à Notre-Dame d’Ourscamp 1199 et au Tremblay 01/1205)
ép. 1) après 24/06/1156 (1160 ?) Valeran III, comte de Breteuil + 1162 (fils d’Erard III «Le Vaillant» de Breteuil et de Béatrix de Coucy ou de Basilie de Bulles ? ; veuf de Holdeburge, dame d’Ailly-sur-Noye (80))
ép. 2) 1162/66 Gui II de Châtillon, seigneur de Châtillon et de Montjay + ~1170 (fils de Gaucher II de Châtillon et d’Ade de Roucy, dame de Pierrefonds)
ép. 3) ~1170 Jean 1er de Thourotte + 1176/77 châtelain de Noyon et Coucy (fils de Jean, Châtelain de Coucy, et d’Adélaïde, ou de Roger de Thourotte et de Hadevide ?)
ép. 4) dès 1182 Raoul III de Nesle (1er de Soissons) + 04/01/1235 comte de Soissons, Châtelain de Bruges (fils de Raoul de Nesle, Châtelain de Bruges, et de Gertrude de Montaigu ; ép. 2) ~1210 Yolande de Joinville + ~1212 ; ép. 3) ~1223 Ade d’Avesnes + ~1249)”.13
; Per Med Lands:
"ALIX de Dreux ([1145/46]-[Jan 1205/Mar 1210], bur église collégiale de Dreux). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydam" as the daughter of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" and his first wife, naming her first husband "Gallerano de Bertuilh", her second husband "Guidone de Castellone", her third husband "Iohanne castellano Noviomensi" and her fourth husband "comite Suessionensi"[31]. A charter dated 1170 records that “Johannes Noviomensis et Torotencis castellanus” granted exemptions from duties on wine to Saint-Amand, as well as the settlement of a later dispute with the consent of “fratres mei Guido [...defunctus]...et Ivo...Aalis uxor mea et ceteri fratres mei Rainaldus, Robertus et Petrus”[32]. "Adelais comitissa Suessionensis et domina Montis Gaii" confirmed the donation of property to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, for the soul of "domini Guidonis de Castellione viri mei", by charter dated 1182[33]. "Gaucherius de Castellione dominus Montisgaii" donated property to Saint-Maur des Fossés, for the soul of "fratris mei Guidonis", with the consent of "domina Adelaide matre mea comitissa Suessionensi et domina Adelaide sorore mea uxore domini Guillelmi de Garlanda", by charter dated 1194[34]. "Radulfus comes Suessionensis…Aalidis uxor mea" confirmed a donation to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated 1199[35]. "Radulfus (Suessionis) dominus Montis Gaii et Adelidis uxor mee" confirmed a previous donation of property to Tremblay by "filius noster Gaucherus de Castillione" by charter dated Jan 1205[36], although Gauthier was the son of Raoul's wife by her second marriage.
"m firstly ([1156/60]) as his second wife, VALERAN [III] Seigneur de Breteuil, son of ERARD [III] "le Vaillant" Seigneur de Breteuil & his first wife Beatrix de Coucy (-1162).
"m secondly ([1162/66]) GUY [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, son of GAUCHER [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne & his wife Ada de Roucy (-[1170], bur église collégiale de Dreux).
"m thirdly ([1170]) JEAN [I] Seigneur de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon et de Coucy, son of ROGER Seigneur de Thourotte & his wife Havide --- (-[1176/77]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Guidonem et Iohannem de Torota" as the children of "Alaydis [filia comitem de Brana Robertum domnum]" and her third husband, specifying that Jean was father of "Iohannis et Rodulfi Virdunensis et Roberti Ledodiensis episcoporum"[37]. In a later passage, the same source names him "Iohannes castellanus Noviomensis frater castellanorum de Coci" and adding that he was father of "Iohannem de Torota qui sororem habuit domni de Dampetra"[38].
"m fourthly (1182 or before) as his first wife, RAOUL de Nesle Comte de Soissons, son of RAOUL Seigneur de Nesle, Châtelain de Bruges & his wife Gertrude de Montaigu (-4 Jan 1235)."
Med Lands cites:
[31] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 845-6.
[32] Saint-Amand, XXIV, p. 173.
[33] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 24, p. 11.
[34] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 241, quoting Extrait des archives de l’abbaye de S. Maur des Fossez.
[35] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXIV, p. 170.
[36] Tremblay-en-France, 5.
[37] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846.
[38] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219, MGH SS XXIII, p. 909.9
[32] Saint-Amand, XXIV, p. 173.
[33] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 24, p. 11.
[34] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 241, quoting Extrait des archives de l’abbaye de S. Maur des Fossez.
[35] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXIV, p. 170.
[36] Tremblay-en-France, 5.
[37] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846.
[38] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219, MGH SS XXIII, p. 909.9
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Adele, *1144/45, living 1210; 1m: after 24.6.1156 Cte Valeran III de Breteuil; 2m: 1161/2 Guy II, sn de Chatillon; 3m: Jean I de Thorotte (+1176/77); 4m: before 1183 Raoul I de Nesle, Cte de Soissons (+1235.)1"
Family 1 | Holdeburge (?) Dame d'Ailly-sur-Noye et de Tartigny d. a 24 Jun 1156 |
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Family 2 | Adèle/Alix de Dreux Dame de Montjay b. bt 1145 - 1146 |
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Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs puis comtes de Breteuil Vicomtes de Chartres, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Breteuil.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison deChâtillon (-sur-Marne) & Saint-Pol, Blois, Porcien, etc., p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Chatillon.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Valeran III de Breteuil: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164668&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#ValeranIIIBreteuildied1162. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Basilie (Béatrix) de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028246&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Evrard III de Breteuil: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028247&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Holdeburge: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164672&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#AdeleAlixDreuxdied12051210
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adèle de Dreux: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027533&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Châtillon (-sur-Marne) & Saint-Pol, Blois, Porcien, etc., p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Chatillon.pdf
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#HildeburgeMValeranIIIBreteuil
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Dreux, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Dreux.pdf
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Breteuil.pdf, p. 5.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Amicie de Breteuil: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00547246&tree=LEO
Guy II de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, Troissy, Montjay, Vassen et Crécy1,2,3
M, #56165, b. circa 1146, d. after 1170
Father | Gaucher II de Châtillon Seigneur de Châtillon, Croissy et Montjay2,4,3 b. c 1110, d. 19 Jun 1148 |
Mother | Ada de Roucy dame de Pierrefonds2,3 b. b 1114, d. a 1172 |
Reference | EDV25 |
Last Edited | 3 Dec 2020 |
Guy II de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, Troissy, Montjay, Vassen et Crécy married Adèle de Montmorency, daughter of Mattieu I de Montmorency Baron de Montmorency,
; his 1st wife.3 Guy II de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, Troissy, Montjay, Vassen et Crécy was born circa 1146.2 He married Adèle/Alix de Dreux Dame de Montjay, daughter of Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle and Hawise (?) of Salisbury, in 1166
;
Her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife; Racine et Histoire says m. 1161/62 or 1166; Genealogy.EU (Capet 6 page) says m. 1161/2.1,2,5,6,7
Guy II de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, Troissy, Montjay, Vassen et Crécy died after 1170.2
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Châtillon): “Gui II de Châtillon ° ~1140 + après 1170 (1172 ?) seigneur de Châtillon, Troissy, Montjay, Vassens (02) et Crécy (témoin à Meaux 1156 du don du comte Henri 1er de Champagne de 620 arpents de terre d’Erablay à l’Abbaye de Tiron ; don 1162 avec consentement de sa mère et de son frère de 7 muids de vin de rente pris sur le vinage de la Montagne de Reims aux religieux de Châtillon, pour fonder l’anniversaire de son père le 19/01 ; autres donations 1168 et 1170 aux Prieurés de Gournay et de Saint-Martin du Vieux-Crécy)
ép. 1161/62 ou 1166 Alix (alias Adélaïde) de Dreux ° 1144/45 + 1209/10 (fille de Robert 1er, comte de Dreux + 1188 et d’Havise d’Evreux ; nièce du Roi Louis VII ; veuve de Waléran III, seigneur de Breteuil (60) + 1163 ; ép. 3. après 1168 Jean 1er de Coucy, seigneur de Thourotte, Châtelain de Noyon + 1176/77; ép. 4) avant 1184 (1183?) Raoul III (1er de Soissons) de Nesle, comte de Soissons + 04/01/1235)”.6
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Adele, *1144/45, living 1210; 1m: after 24.6.1156 Cte Valeran III de Breteuil; 2m: 1161/2 Guy II, sn de Chatillon; 3m: Jean I de Thorotte (+1176/77); 4m: before 1183 Raoul I de Nesle, Cte de Soissons (+1235.)1"
; Per Racines et Histoire (Dreux): “1) Alix (Adèle) de Dreux ° 1145/46 + entre 01/1205 et 03/1210 (citée chartes de donation à Notre-Dame d’Ourscamp 1199 et au Tremblay 01/1205)
ép. 1) après 24/06/1156 (1160 ?) Valeran III, comte de Breteuil + 1162 (fils d’Erard III «Le Vaillant» de Breteuil et de Béatrix de Coucy ou de Basilie de Bulles ? ; veuf de Holdeburge, dame d’Ailly-sur-Noye (80))
ép. 2) 1162/66 Gui II de Châtillon, seigneur de Châtillon et de Montjay + ~1170 (fils de Gaucher II de Châtillon et d’Ade de Roucy, dame de Pierrefonds)
ép. 3) ~1170 Jean 1er de Thourotte + 1176/77 châtelain de Noyon et Coucy (fils de Jean, Châtelain de Coucy, et d’Adélaïde, ou de Roger de Thourotte et de Hadevide ?)
ép. 4) dès 1182 Raoul III de Nesle (1er de Soissons) + 04/01/1235 comte de Soissons, Châtelain de Bruges (fils de Raoul de Nesle, Châtelain de Bruges, et de Gertrude de Montaigu ; ép. 2) ~1210 Yolande de Joinville + ~1212 ; ép. 3) ~1223 Ade d’Avesnes + ~1249)”.9
; Per Med Lands:
"ALIX de Dreux ([1145/46]-[Jan 1205/Mar 1210], bur église collégiale de Dreux). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydam" as the daughter of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" and his first wife, naming her first husband "Gallerano de Bertuilh", her second husband "Guidone de Castellone", her third husband "Iohanne castellano Noviomensi" and her fourth husband "comite Suessionensi"[31]. A charter dated 1170 records that “Johannes Noviomensis et Torotencis castellanus” granted exemptions from duties on wine to Saint-Amand, as well as the settlement of a later dispute with the consent of “fratres mei Guido [...defunctus]...et Ivo...Aalis uxor mea et ceteri fratres mei Rainaldus, Robertus et Petrus”[32]. "Adelais comitissa Suessionensis et domina Montis Gaii" confirmed the donation of property to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, for the soul of "domini Guidonis de Castellione viri mei", by charter dated 1182[33]. "Gaucherius de Castellione dominus Montisgaii" donated property to Saint-Maur des Fossés, for the soul of "fratris mei Guidonis", with the consent of "domina Adelaide matre mea comitissa Suessionensi et domina Adelaide sorore mea uxore domini Guillelmi de Garlanda", by charter dated 1194[34]. "Radulfus comes Suessionensis…Aalidis uxor mea" confirmed a donation to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated 1199[35]. "Radulfus (Suessionis) dominus Montis Gaii et Adelidis uxor mee" confirmed a previous donation of property to Tremblay by "filius noster Gaucherus de Castillione" by charter dated Jan 1205[36], although Gauthier was the son of Raoul's wife by her second marriage.
"m firstly ([1156/60]) as his second wife, VALERAN [III] Seigneur de Breteuil, son of ERARD [III] "le Vaillant" Seigneur de Breteuil & his first wife Beatrix de Coucy (-1162).
"m secondly ([1162/66]) GUY [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, son of GAUCHER [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne & his wife Ada de Roucy (-[1170], bur église collégiale de Dreux).
"m thirdly ([1170]) JEAN [I] Seigneur de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon et de Coucy, son of ROGER Seigneur de Thourotte & his wife Havide --- (-[1176/77]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Guidonem et Iohannem de Torota" as the children of "Alaydis [filia comitem de Brana Robertum domnum]" and her third husband, specifying that Jean was father of "Iohannis et Rodulfi Virdunensis et Roberti Ledodiensis episcoporum"[37]. In a later passage, the same source names him "Iohannes castellanus Noviomensis frater castellanorum de Coci" and adding that he was father of "Iohannem de Torota qui sororem habuit domni de Dampetra"[38].
"m fourthly (1182 or before) as his first wife, RAOUL de Nesle Comte de Soissons, son of RAOUL Seigneur de Nesle, Châtelain de Bruges & his wife Gertrude de Montaigu (-4 Jan 1235)."
Med Lands cites:
; his 1st wife.3 Guy II de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, Troissy, Montjay, Vassen et Crécy was born circa 1146.2 He married Adèle/Alix de Dreux Dame de Montjay, daughter of Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle and Hawise (?) of Salisbury, in 1166
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Her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife; Racine et Histoire says m. 1161/62 or 1166; Genealogy.EU (Capet 6 page) says m. 1161/2.1,2,5,6,7
Guy II de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, Troissy, Montjay, Vassen et Crécy died after 1170.2
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 17.
2. Encyclopedie Genealogique des Maisons Souveraines du Monde Paris, VIII 1963,IX 1964,XII 1966., Docteur Gaston Sirjean, Reference: 242.8
EDV25. 2. Encyclopedie Genealogique des Maisons Souveraines du Monde Paris, VIII 1963,IX 1964,XII 1966., Docteur Gaston Sirjean, Reference: 242.8
; Per Racines et Histoire (Châtillon): “Gui II de Châtillon ° ~1140 + après 1170 (1172 ?) seigneur de Châtillon, Troissy, Montjay, Vassens (02) et Crécy (témoin à Meaux 1156 du don du comte Henri 1er de Champagne de 620 arpents de terre d’Erablay à l’Abbaye de Tiron ; don 1162 avec consentement de sa mère et de son frère de 7 muids de vin de rente pris sur le vinage de la Montagne de Reims aux religieux de Châtillon, pour fonder l’anniversaire de son père le 19/01 ; autres donations 1168 et 1170 aux Prieurés de Gournay et de Saint-Martin du Vieux-Crécy)
ép. 1161/62 ou 1166 Alix (alias Adélaïde) de Dreux ° 1144/45 + 1209/10 (fille de Robert 1er, comte de Dreux + 1188 et d’Havise d’Evreux ; nièce du Roi Louis VII ; veuve de Waléran III, seigneur de Breteuil (60) + 1163 ; ép. 3. après 1168 Jean 1er de Coucy, seigneur de Thourotte, Châtelain de Noyon + 1176/77; ép. 4) avant 1184 (1183?) Raoul III (1er de Soissons) de Nesle, comte de Soissons + 04/01/1235)”.6
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Adele, *1144/45, living 1210; 1m: after 24.6.1156 Cte Valeran III de Breteuil; 2m: 1161/2 Guy II, sn de Chatillon; 3m: Jean I de Thorotte (+1176/77); 4m: before 1183 Raoul I de Nesle, Cte de Soissons (+1235.)1"
; Per Racines et Histoire (Dreux): “1) Alix (Adèle) de Dreux ° 1145/46 + entre 01/1205 et 03/1210 (citée chartes de donation à Notre-Dame d’Ourscamp 1199 et au Tremblay 01/1205)
ép. 1) après 24/06/1156 (1160 ?) Valeran III, comte de Breteuil + 1162 (fils d’Erard III «Le Vaillant» de Breteuil et de Béatrix de Coucy ou de Basilie de Bulles ? ; veuf de Holdeburge, dame d’Ailly-sur-Noye (80))
ép. 2) 1162/66 Gui II de Châtillon, seigneur de Châtillon et de Montjay + ~1170 (fils de Gaucher II de Châtillon et d’Ade de Roucy, dame de Pierrefonds)
ép. 3) ~1170 Jean 1er de Thourotte + 1176/77 châtelain de Noyon et Coucy (fils de Jean, Châtelain de Coucy, et d’Adélaïde, ou de Roger de Thourotte et de Hadevide ?)
ép. 4) dès 1182 Raoul III de Nesle (1er de Soissons) + 04/01/1235 comte de Soissons, Châtelain de Bruges (fils de Raoul de Nesle, Châtelain de Bruges, et de Gertrude de Montaigu ; ép. 2) ~1210 Yolande de Joinville + ~1212 ; ép. 3) ~1223 Ade d’Avesnes + ~1249)”.9
; Per Med Lands:
"ALIX de Dreux ([1145/46]-[Jan 1205/Mar 1210], bur église collégiale de Dreux). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydam" as the daughter of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" and his first wife, naming her first husband "Gallerano de Bertuilh", her second husband "Guidone de Castellone", her third husband "Iohanne castellano Noviomensi" and her fourth husband "comite Suessionensi"[31]. A charter dated 1170 records that “Johannes Noviomensis et Torotencis castellanus” granted exemptions from duties on wine to Saint-Amand, as well as the settlement of a later dispute with the consent of “fratres mei Guido [...defunctus]...et Ivo...Aalis uxor mea et ceteri fratres mei Rainaldus, Robertus et Petrus”[32]. "Adelais comitissa Suessionensis et domina Montis Gaii" confirmed the donation of property to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, for the soul of "domini Guidonis de Castellione viri mei", by charter dated 1182[33]. "Gaucherius de Castellione dominus Montisgaii" donated property to Saint-Maur des Fossés, for the soul of "fratris mei Guidonis", with the consent of "domina Adelaide matre mea comitissa Suessionensi et domina Adelaide sorore mea uxore domini Guillelmi de Garlanda", by charter dated 1194[34]. "Radulfus comes Suessionensis…Aalidis uxor mea" confirmed a donation to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated 1199[35]. "Radulfus (Suessionis) dominus Montis Gaii et Adelidis uxor mee" confirmed a previous donation of property to Tremblay by "filius noster Gaucherus de Castillione" by charter dated Jan 1205[36], although Gauthier was the son of Raoul's wife by her second marriage.
"m firstly ([1156/60]) as his second wife, VALERAN [III] Seigneur de Breteuil, son of ERARD [III] "le Vaillant" Seigneur de Breteuil & his first wife Beatrix de Coucy (-1162).
"m secondly ([1162/66]) GUY [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, son of GAUCHER [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne & his wife Ada de Roucy (-[1170], bur église collégiale de Dreux).
"m thirdly ([1170]) JEAN [I] Seigneur de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon et de Coucy, son of ROGER Seigneur de Thourotte & his wife Havide --- (-[1176/77]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Guidonem et Iohannem de Torota" as the children of "Alaydis [filia comitem de Brana Robertum domnum]" and her third husband, specifying that Jean was father of "Iohannis et Rodulfi Virdunensis et Roberti Ledodiensis episcoporum"[37]. In a later passage, the same source names him "Iohannes castellanus Noviomensis frater castellanorum de Coci" and adding that he was father of "Iohannem de Torota qui sororem habuit domni de Dampetra"[38].
"m fourthly (1182 or before) as his first wife, RAOUL de Nesle Comte de Soissons, son of RAOUL Seigneur de Nesle, Châtelain de Bruges & his wife Gertrude de Montaigu (-4 Jan 1235)."
Med Lands cites:
[31] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 845-6.
[32] Saint-Amand, XXIV, p. 173.
[33] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 24, p. 11.
[34] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 241, quoting Extrait des archives de l’abbaye de S. Maur des Fossez.
[35] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXIV, p. 170.
[36] Tremblay-en-France, 5.
[37] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846.
[38] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219, MGH SS XXIII, p. 909.5
[32] Saint-Amand, XXIV, p. 173.
[33] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 24, p. 11.
[34] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 241, quoting Extrait des archives de l’abbaye de S. Maur des Fossez.
[35] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXIV, p. 170.
[36] Tremblay-en-France, 5.
[37] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846.
[38] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219, MGH SS XXIII, p. 909.5
Family 1 | Adèle de Montmorency |
Family 2 | |
Children |
Family 3 | Adèle/Alix de Dreux Dame de Montjay b. bt 1145 - 1146 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gui II de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027532&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Chatillon.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gaucher II de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020658&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#AdeleAlixDreuxdied12051210. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Châtillon (-sur-Marne) & Saint-Pol, Blois, Porcien, etc., p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Chatillon.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adèle de Dreux: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027533&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gui II de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027532&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Dreux, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Dreux.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adèle de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139790&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gaucher III de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027534&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#GaucherIIIChatillonStPoldied1219A
Jean I de Coucy seigneur de Thourotte1,2
M, #56166, d. between 1176 and 1177
Father | Gui I de Thourotte Châtelain de Coucy, Châtelain de Noyon, Vicomte de Soissons3,4,5,6 d. bt 1165 - 1170 |
Mother | NN de Coucy3 |
Last Edited | 26 Nov 2020 |
Jean I de Coucy seigneur de Thourotte married Adèle/Alix de Dreux Dame de Montjay, daughter of Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle and Hawise (?) of Salisbury, after 1170
;
Her 3rd husband. Her 2nd husband had d. aft 1170.7,5,8,6
Jean I de Coucy seigneur de Thourotte died between 1176 and 1177.1
Jean I de Coucy seigneur de Thourotte died before 1177.3
; Per Med Lands:
"JEAN [I] (-[1176/77]). "Guido Noviomensis castellanus" donated property to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, on returning from pilgrimage to Santiago “cum tribus filiis suis Johanne...Guidone et Ivone”, by charter dated 1156[664]. A charter dated 1170 records that “Johannes Noviomensis et Torotencis castellanus” granted exemptions from duties on wine to Saint-Amand, as well as the settlement of a later dispute with the consent of “fratres mei Guido [...defunctus]...et Ivo...Aalis uxor mea et ceteri fratres mei Rainaldus, Robertus et Petrus”[665]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomensis atque Thorotensis” approved an exchange of property between “Petrus Sarcellus...” and Saint-Amand by charter dated 1173[666]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” restored to Saint-Amand “nemus...Radulphi-Fossa” which had been donated by “patris mei bone memorie Johannis de Cociaco”, with the consent of “Guidonis filii mei primogeniti et militis et aliorum filiorum meorum Willelmi, Johannis et Galcheri”, by charter dated 1214[667]. It is unclear why the father of Jean [II] de Thourotte is named “Jean de Coucy” in this document.
"m ([1170]) as her third husband, ALIX de Dreux, widow firstly of VALERAN [III] Seigneur de Breteuil and secondly of GUY [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, daughter of ROBERT [I] Seigneur de Dreux et du Perche [Capet] & his first wife Hawise de Salisbury ([1145/46]-[Jan 1205/Mar 1210], bur église collégiale de Dreux). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydam" as the daughter of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" & his first wife, naming her first husband "Gallerano de Bertuilh", her second husband "Guidone de Castellone", her third husband "Iohanne castellano Noviomensi" and her fourth husband "comite Suessionensi"[668]. A charter dated 1170 records that “Johannes Noviomensis et Torotencis castellanus” granted exemptions from duties on wine to Saint-Amand, as well as the settlement of a later dispute with the consent of “fratres mei Guido [...defunctus]...et Ivo...Aalis uxor mea et ceteri fratres mei Rainaldus, Robertus et Petrus”[669]. She married fourthly (1182 or before) as his first wife, Raoul de Nesle Comte de Soissons."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire: "Jean 1er de Thourotte + ~1176/77 Châtelain de Noyon et de Thourotte (cité dans une charte à Ourscamps en 1156 ; fait donation avec son épouse en 1178 à l’église abbatiale de Saint-Jean-aux-Bois)
ép.1170 Alix de Dreux ° ~1145/50 + entre 01/1205 et 03/1210 (inh. à Dreux) (fille de Robert 1er de France, comte de Dreux et du Perche, et d’Hawise d’Evreux-Salisbury; petite-fille du Roi Louis VI «Le Gros» et d’Adélaïde de Savoie ; veuve de 1) Valéran ou Galeran III, seigneur de Breteuil ; et de 2) Gui II, seigneur de Châtillon (-sur-Marne) ; ép. 4) ~1182 Raoul de Nesle, comte de Soissons) (obtient la garde noble de ses enfants nés de son union avec Gui de Châtillon.)6" Jean I de Coucy seigneur de Thourotte was also known as Jean I de Coucy Châtelain de Coucy, Châtelain de Noyon.3
; Per Racines et Histoire (Dreux): “1) Alix (Adèle) de Dreux ° 1145/46 + entre 01/1205 et 03/1210 (citée chartes de donation à Notre-Dame d’Ourscamp 1199 et au Tremblay 01/1205)
ép. 1) après 24/06/1156 (1160 ?) Valeran III, comte de Breteuil + 1162 (fils d’Erard III «Le Vaillant» de Breteuil et de Béatrix de Coucy ou de Basilie de Bulles ? ; veuf de Holdeburge, dame d’Ailly-sur-Noye (80))
ép. 2) 1162/66 Gui II de Châtillon, seigneur de Châtillon et de Montjay + ~1170 (fils de Gaucher II de Châtillon et d’Ade de Roucy, dame de Pierrefonds)
ép. 3) ~1170 Jean 1er de Thourotte + 1176/77 châtelain de Noyon et Coucy (fils de Jean, Châtelain de Coucy, et d’Adélaïde, ou de Roger de Thourotte et de Hadevide ?)
ép. 4) dès 1182 Raoul III de Nesle (1er de Soissons) + 04/01/1235 comte de Soissons, Châtelain de Bruges (fils de Raoul de Nesle, Châtelain de Bruges, et de Gertrude de Montaigu ; ép. 2) ~1210 Yolande de Joinville + ~1212 ; ép. 3) ~1223 Ade d’Avesnes + ~1249)”.9
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Adele, *1144/45, living 1210; 1m: after 24.6.1156 Cte Valeran III de Breteuil; 2m: 1161/2 Guy II, sn de Chatillon; 3m: Jean I de Thorotte (+1176/77); 4m: before 1183 Raoul I de Nesle, Cte de Soissons (+1235.)1"
; Per Med Lands:
"ALIX de Dreux ([1145/46]-[Jan 1205/Mar 1210], bur église collégiale de Dreux). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydam" as the daughter of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" and his first wife, naming her first husband "Gallerano de Bertuilh", her second husband "Guidone de Castellone", her third husband "Iohanne castellano Noviomensi" and her fourth husband "comite Suessionensi"[31]. A charter dated 1170 records that “Johannes Noviomensis et Torotencis castellanus” granted exemptions from duties on wine to Saint-Amand, as well as the settlement of a later dispute with the consent of “fratres mei Guido [...defunctus]...et Ivo...Aalis uxor mea et ceteri fratres mei Rainaldus, Robertus et Petrus”[32]. "Adelais comitissa Suessionensis et domina Montis Gaii" confirmed the donation of property to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, for the soul of "domini Guidonis de Castellione viri mei", by charter dated 1182[33]. "Gaucherius de Castellione dominus Montisgaii" donated property to Saint-Maur des Fossés, for the soul of "fratris mei Guidonis", with the consent of "domina Adelaide matre mea comitissa Suessionensi et domina Adelaide sorore mea uxore domini Guillelmi de Garlanda", by charter dated 1194[34]. "Radulfus comes Suessionensis…Aalidis uxor mea" confirmed a donation to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated 1199[35]. "Radulfus (Suessionis) dominus Montis Gaii et Adelidis uxor mee" confirmed a previous donation of property to Tremblay by "filius noster Gaucherus de Castillione" by charter dated Jan 1205[36], although Gauthier was the son of Raoul's wife by her second marriage.
"m firstly ([1156/60]) as his second wife, VALERAN [III] Seigneur de Breteuil, son of ERARD [III] "le Vaillant" Seigneur de Breteuil & his first wife Beatrix de Coucy (-1162).
"m secondly ([1162/66]) GUY [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, son of GAUCHER [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne & his wife Ada de Roucy (-[1170], bur église collégiale de Dreux).
"m thirdly ([1170]) JEAN [I] Seigneur de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon et de Coucy, son of ROGER Seigneur de Thourotte & his wife Havide --- (-[1176/77]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Guidonem et Iohannem de Torota" as the children of "Alaydis [filia comitem de Brana Robertum domnum]" and her third husband, specifying that Jean was father of "Iohannis et Rodulfi Virdunensis et Roberti Ledodiensis episcoporum"[37]. In a later passage, the same source names him "Iohannes castellanus Noviomensis frater castellanorum de Coci" and adding that he was father of "Iohannem de Torota qui sororem habuit domni de Dampetra"[38].
"m fourthly (1182 or before) as his first wife, RAOUL de Nesle Comte de Soissons, son of RAOUL Seigneur de Nesle, Châtelain de Bruges & his wife Gertrude de Montaigu (-4 Jan 1235)."
Med Lands cites:
;
Her 3rd husband. Her 2nd husband had d. aft 1170.7,5,8,6
Jean I de Coucy seigneur de Thourotte died between 1176 and 1177.1
Jean I de Coucy seigneur de Thourotte died before 1177.3
; Per Med Lands:
"JEAN [I] (-[1176/77]). "Guido Noviomensis castellanus" donated property to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp, on returning from pilgrimage to Santiago “cum tribus filiis suis Johanne...Guidone et Ivone”, by charter dated 1156[664]. A charter dated 1170 records that “Johannes Noviomensis et Torotencis castellanus” granted exemptions from duties on wine to Saint-Amand, as well as the settlement of a later dispute with the consent of “fratres mei Guido [...defunctus]...et Ivo...Aalis uxor mea et ceteri fratres mei Rainaldus, Robertus et Petrus”[665]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomensis atque Thorotensis” approved an exchange of property between “Petrus Sarcellus...” and Saint-Amand by charter dated 1173[666]. “Johannes castellanus Noviomi et Thorote” restored to Saint-Amand “nemus...Radulphi-Fossa” which had been donated by “patris mei bone memorie Johannis de Cociaco”, with the consent of “Guidonis filii mei primogeniti et militis et aliorum filiorum meorum Willelmi, Johannis et Galcheri”, by charter dated 1214[667]. It is unclear why the father of Jean [II] de Thourotte is named “Jean de Coucy” in this document.
"m ([1170]) as her third husband, ALIX de Dreux, widow firstly of VALERAN [III] Seigneur de Breteuil and secondly of GUY [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, daughter of ROBERT [I] Seigneur de Dreux et du Perche [Capet] & his first wife Hawise de Salisbury ([1145/46]-[Jan 1205/Mar 1210], bur église collégiale de Dreux). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydam" as the daughter of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" & his first wife, naming her first husband "Gallerano de Bertuilh", her second husband "Guidone de Castellone", her third husband "Iohanne castellano Noviomensi" and her fourth husband "comite Suessionensi"[668]. A charter dated 1170 records that “Johannes Noviomensis et Torotencis castellanus” granted exemptions from duties on wine to Saint-Amand, as well as the settlement of a later dispute with the consent of “fratres mei Guido [...defunctus]...et Ivo...Aalis uxor mea et ceteri fratres mei Rainaldus, Robertus et Petrus”[669]. She married fourthly (1182 or before) as his first wife, Raoul de Nesle Comte de Soissons."
Med Lands cites:
[664] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCXXVI, p. 139.
[665] Saint-Amand, XXIV, p. 173.
[666] Saint-Amand, XXVII, p. 177.
[667] Saint-Amand, LIV, p. 202.
[668] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 845-6.
[669] Saint-Amand, XXIV, p. 173.5
[665] Saint-Amand, XXIV, p. 173.
[666] Saint-Amand, XXVII, p. 177.
[667] Saint-Amand, LIV, p. 202.
[668] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 845-6.
[669] Saint-Amand, XXIV, p. 173.5
; Per Racines et Histoire: "Jean 1er de Thourotte + ~1176/77 Châtelain de Noyon et de Thourotte (cité dans une charte à Ourscamps en 1156 ; fait donation avec son épouse en 1178 à l’église abbatiale de Saint-Jean-aux-Bois)
ép.1170 Alix de Dreux ° ~1145/50 + entre 01/1205 et 03/1210 (inh. à Dreux) (fille de Robert 1er de France, comte de Dreux et du Perche, et d’Hawise d’Evreux-Salisbury; petite-fille du Roi Louis VI «Le Gros» et d’Adélaïde de Savoie ; veuve de 1) Valéran ou Galeran III, seigneur de Breteuil ; et de 2) Gui II, seigneur de Châtillon (-sur-Marne) ; ép. 4) ~1182 Raoul de Nesle, comte de Soissons) (obtient la garde noble de ses enfants nés de son union avec Gui de Châtillon.)6" Jean I de Coucy seigneur de Thourotte was also known as Jean I de Coucy Châtelain de Coucy, Châtelain de Noyon.3
; Per Racines et Histoire (Dreux): “1) Alix (Adèle) de Dreux ° 1145/46 + entre 01/1205 et 03/1210 (citée chartes de donation à Notre-Dame d’Ourscamp 1199 et au Tremblay 01/1205)
ép. 1) après 24/06/1156 (1160 ?) Valeran III, comte de Breteuil + 1162 (fils d’Erard III «Le Vaillant» de Breteuil et de Béatrix de Coucy ou de Basilie de Bulles ? ; veuf de Holdeburge, dame d’Ailly-sur-Noye (80))
ép. 2) 1162/66 Gui II de Châtillon, seigneur de Châtillon et de Montjay + ~1170 (fils de Gaucher II de Châtillon et d’Ade de Roucy, dame de Pierrefonds)
ép. 3) ~1170 Jean 1er de Thourotte + 1176/77 châtelain de Noyon et Coucy (fils de Jean, Châtelain de Coucy, et d’Adélaïde, ou de Roger de Thourotte et de Hadevide ?)
ép. 4) dès 1182 Raoul III de Nesle (1er de Soissons) + 04/01/1235 comte de Soissons, Châtelain de Bruges (fils de Raoul de Nesle, Châtelain de Bruges, et de Gertrude de Montaigu ; ép. 2) ~1210 Yolande de Joinville + ~1212 ; ép. 3) ~1223 Ade d’Avesnes + ~1249)”.9
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Adele, *1144/45, living 1210; 1m: after 24.6.1156 Cte Valeran III de Breteuil; 2m: 1161/2 Guy II, sn de Chatillon; 3m: Jean I de Thorotte (+1176/77); 4m: before 1183 Raoul I de Nesle, Cte de Soissons (+1235.)1"
; Per Med Lands:
"ALIX de Dreux ([1145/46]-[Jan 1205/Mar 1210], bur église collégiale de Dreux). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydam" as the daughter of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" and his first wife, naming her first husband "Gallerano de Bertuilh", her second husband "Guidone de Castellone", her third husband "Iohanne castellano Noviomensi" and her fourth husband "comite Suessionensi"[31]. A charter dated 1170 records that “Johannes Noviomensis et Torotencis castellanus” granted exemptions from duties on wine to Saint-Amand, as well as the settlement of a later dispute with the consent of “fratres mei Guido [...defunctus]...et Ivo...Aalis uxor mea et ceteri fratres mei Rainaldus, Robertus et Petrus”[32]. "Adelais comitissa Suessionensis et domina Montis Gaii" confirmed the donation of property to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, for the soul of "domini Guidonis de Castellione viri mei", by charter dated 1182[33]. "Gaucherius de Castellione dominus Montisgaii" donated property to Saint-Maur des Fossés, for the soul of "fratris mei Guidonis", with the consent of "domina Adelaide matre mea comitissa Suessionensi et domina Adelaide sorore mea uxore domini Guillelmi de Garlanda", by charter dated 1194[34]. "Radulfus comes Suessionensis…Aalidis uxor mea" confirmed a donation to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated 1199[35]. "Radulfus (Suessionis) dominus Montis Gaii et Adelidis uxor mee" confirmed a previous donation of property to Tremblay by "filius noster Gaucherus de Castillione" by charter dated Jan 1205[36], although Gauthier was the son of Raoul's wife by her second marriage.
"m firstly ([1156/60]) as his second wife, VALERAN [III] Seigneur de Breteuil, son of ERARD [III] "le Vaillant" Seigneur de Breteuil & his first wife Beatrix de Coucy (-1162).
"m secondly ([1162/66]) GUY [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, son of GAUCHER [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne & his wife Ada de Roucy (-[1170], bur église collégiale de Dreux).
"m thirdly ([1170]) JEAN [I] Seigneur de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon et de Coucy, son of ROGER Seigneur de Thourotte & his wife Havide --- (-[1176/77]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Guidonem et Iohannem de Torota" as the children of "Alaydis [filia comitem de Brana Robertum domnum]" and her third husband, specifying that Jean was father of "Iohannis et Rodulfi Virdunensis et Roberti Ledodiensis episcoporum"[37]. In a later passage, the same source names him "Iohannes castellanus Noviomensis frater castellanorum de Coci" and adding that he was father of "Iohannem de Torota qui sororem habuit domni de Dampetra"[38].
"m fourthly (1182 or before) as his first wife, RAOUL de Nesle Comte de Soissons, son of RAOUL Seigneur de Nesle, Châtelain de Bruges & his wife Gertrude de Montaigu (-4 Jan 1235)."
Med Lands cites:
[31] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 845-6.
[32] Saint-Amand, XXIV, p. 173.
[33] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 24, p. 11.
[34] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 241, quoting Extrait des archives de l’abbaye de S. Maur des Fossez.
[35] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXIV, p. 170.
[36] Tremblay-en-France, 5.
[37] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846.
[38] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219, MGH SS XXIII, p. 909.8
[32] Saint-Amand, XXIV, p. 173.
[33] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 24, p. 11.
[34] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 241, quoting Extrait des archives de l’abbaye de S. Maur des Fossez.
[35] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXIV, p. 170.
[36] Tremblay-en-France, 5.
[37] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846.
[38] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219, MGH SS XXIII, p. 909.8
Family | Adèle/Alix de Dreux Dame de Montjay b. bt 1145 - 1146 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Chatillon.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jean I de Coucy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00628198&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#_Toc521223343. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#JeanIThourottedied1176
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Thourotte (alias Thorotte), p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Thourotte.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adèle de Dreux: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027533&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#AdeleAlixDreuxdied12051210
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Dreux, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Dreux.pdf
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#JeanIIThourottedied1235B
Raoul I de Nesle (?) Comte de Soissons, Chatelain de Noyon1,2,3,4
M, #56167, d. 1235
Father | Raoul (?) seigneur de Nesle, chatelain de Bruges2,3 d. c 1135 |
Mother | Gertrude (?) de Montaigu2,3 |
Last Edited | 21 Dec 2020 |
Raoul I de Nesle (?) Comte de Soissons, Chatelain de Noyon married Adèle/Alix de Dreux Dame de Montjay, daughter of Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle and Hawise (?) of Salisbury, in 1184
;
Her 4th husband; Genealogy.EU (Capet 6 page) says m. bef 1183.1,2,5,6,7 Raoul I de Nesle (?) Comte de Soissons, Chatelain de Noyon married Yolande (?)
; his 2nd wife.8,2 Raoul I de Nesle (?) Comte de Soissons, Chatelain de Noyon married Ade (Agnès) (?) d'Avesnes, Heiress of Hans, daughter of Jacques (?) seigneur d'Avesnes, Leuse, Conde and Guise and Adelvie/Ameline (?) de Guise, before 1223
; her 2nd husband; his 3rd wife.2,9,10
Raoul I de Nesle (?) Comte de Soissons, Chatelain de Noyon died in 1235.1
Raoul I de Nesle (?) Comte de Soissons, Chatelain de Noyon died on 4 January 1235.2,3
; Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: III 113.2 Raoul I de Nesle (?) Comte de Soissons, Chatelain de Noyon was also known as Ives II (?) de Nesle, Comte de Soissons.11 Raoul I de Nesle (?) Comte de Soissons, Chatelain de Noyon was also known as Raoul de Nesle Count de Soissons, Châtelain de Noyon.2
; Per Med Lands:
"ALIX de Dreux ([1145/46]-[Jan 1205/Mar 1210], bur église collégiale de Dreux). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydam" as the daughter of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" and his first wife, naming her first husband "Gallerano de Bertuilh", her second husband "Guidone de Castellone", her third husband "Iohanne castellano Noviomensi" and her fourth husband "comite Suessionensi"[31]. A charter dated 1170 records that “Johannes Noviomensis et Torotencis castellanus” granted exemptions from duties on wine to Saint-Amand, as well as the settlement of a later dispute with the consent of “fratres mei Guido [...defunctus]...et Ivo...Aalis uxor mea et ceteri fratres mei Rainaldus, Robertus et Petrus”[32]. "Adelais comitissa Suessionensis et domina Montis Gaii" confirmed the donation of property to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, for the soul of "domini Guidonis de Castellione viri mei", by charter dated 1182[33]. "Gaucherius de Castellione dominus Montisgaii" donated property to Saint-Maur des Fossés, for the soul of "fratris mei Guidonis", with the consent of "domina Adelaide matre mea comitissa Suessionensi et domina Adelaide sorore mea uxore domini Guillelmi de Garlanda", by charter dated 1194[34]. "Radulfus comes Suessionensis…Aalidis uxor mea" confirmed a donation to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated 1199[35]. "Radulfus (Suessionis) dominus Montis Gaii et Adelidis uxor mee" confirmed a previous donation of property to Tremblay by "filius noster Gaucherus de Castillione" by charter dated Jan 1205[36], although Gauthier was the son of Raoul's wife by her second marriage.
"m firstly ([1156/60]) as his second wife, VALERAN [III] Seigneur de Breteuil, son of ERARD [III] "le Vaillant" Seigneur de Breteuil & his first wife Beatrix de Coucy (-1162).
"m secondly ([1162/66]) GUY [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, son of GAUCHER [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne & his wife Ada de Roucy (-[1170], bur église collégiale de Dreux).
"m thirdly ([1170]) JEAN [I] Seigneur de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon et de Coucy, son of ROGER Seigneur de Thourotte & his wife Havide --- (-[1176/77]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Guidonem et Iohannem de Torota" as the children of "Alaydis [filia comitem de Brana Robertum domnum]" and her third husband, specifying that Jean was father of "Iohannis et Rodulfi Virdunensis et Roberti Ledodiensis episcoporum"[37]. In a later passage, the same source names him "Iohannes castellanus Noviomensis frater castellanorum de Coci" and adding that he was father of "Iohannem de Torota qui sororem habuit domni de Dampetra"[38].
"m fourthly (1182 or before) as his first wife, RAOUL de Nesle Comte de Soissons, son of RAOUL Seigneur de Nesle, Châtelain de Bruges & his wife Gertrude de Montaigu (-4 Jan 1235)."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Dreux): “1) Alix (Adèle) de Dreux ° 1145/46 + entre 01/1205 et 03/1210 (citée chartes de donation à Notre-Dame d’Ourscamp 1199 et au Tremblay 01/1205)
ép. 1) après 24/06/1156 (1160 ?) Valeran III, comte de Breteuil + 1162 (fils d’Erard III «Le Vaillant» de Breteuil et de Béatrix de Coucy ou de Basilie de Bulles ? ; veuf de Holdeburge, dame d’Ailly-sur-Noye (80))
ép. 2) 1162/66 Gui II de Châtillon, seigneur de Châtillon et de Montjay + ~1170 (fils de Gaucher II de Châtillon et d’Ade de Roucy, dame de Pierrefonds)
ép. 3) ~1170 Jean 1er de Thourotte + 1176/77 châtelain de Noyon et Coucy (fils de Jean, Châtelain de Coucy, et d’Adélaïde, ou de Roger de Thourotte et de Hadevide ?)
ép. 4) dès 1182 Raoul III de Nesle (1er de Soissons) + 04/01/1235 comte de Soissons, Châtelain de Bruges (fils de Raoul de Nesle, Châtelain de Bruges, et de Gertrude de Montaigu ; ép. 2) ~1210 Yolande de Joinville + ~1212 ; ép. 3) ~1223 Ade d’Avesnes + ~1249)”.12
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Adele, *1144/45, living 1210; 1m: after 24.6.1156 Cte Valeran III de Breteuil; 2m: 1161/2 Guy II, sn de Chatillon; 3m: Jean I de Thorotte (+1176/77); 4m: before 1183 Raoul I de Nesle, Cte de Soissons (+1235.)1"
;
Her 4th husband; Genealogy.EU (Capet 6 page) says m. bef 1183.1,2,5,6,7 Raoul I de Nesle (?) Comte de Soissons, Chatelain de Noyon married Yolande (?)
; his 2nd wife.8,2 Raoul I de Nesle (?) Comte de Soissons, Chatelain de Noyon married Ade (Agnès) (?) d'Avesnes, Heiress of Hans, daughter of Jacques (?) seigneur d'Avesnes, Leuse, Conde and Guise and Adelvie/Ameline (?) de Guise, before 1223
; her 2nd husband; his 3rd wife.2,9,10
Raoul I de Nesle (?) Comte de Soissons, Chatelain de Noyon died in 1235.1
Raoul I de Nesle (?) Comte de Soissons, Chatelain de Noyon died on 4 January 1235.2,3
; Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: III 113.2 Raoul I de Nesle (?) Comte de Soissons, Chatelain de Noyon was also known as Ives II (?) de Nesle, Comte de Soissons.11 Raoul I de Nesle (?) Comte de Soissons, Chatelain de Noyon was also known as Raoul de Nesle Count de Soissons, Châtelain de Noyon.2
; Per Med Lands:
"ALIX de Dreux ([1145/46]-[Jan 1205/Mar 1210], bur église collégiale de Dreux). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydam" as the daughter of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" and his first wife, naming her first husband "Gallerano de Bertuilh", her second husband "Guidone de Castellone", her third husband "Iohanne castellano Noviomensi" and her fourth husband "comite Suessionensi"[31]. A charter dated 1170 records that “Johannes Noviomensis et Torotencis castellanus” granted exemptions from duties on wine to Saint-Amand, as well as the settlement of a later dispute with the consent of “fratres mei Guido [...defunctus]...et Ivo...Aalis uxor mea et ceteri fratres mei Rainaldus, Robertus et Petrus”[32]. "Adelais comitissa Suessionensis et domina Montis Gaii" confirmed the donation of property to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, for the soul of "domini Guidonis de Castellione viri mei", by charter dated 1182[33]. "Gaucherius de Castellione dominus Montisgaii" donated property to Saint-Maur des Fossés, for the soul of "fratris mei Guidonis", with the consent of "domina Adelaide matre mea comitissa Suessionensi et domina Adelaide sorore mea uxore domini Guillelmi de Garlanda", by charter dated 1194[34]. "Radulfus comes Suessionensis…Aalidis uxor mea" confirmed a donation to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated 1199[35]. "Radulfus (Suessionis) dominus Montis Gaii et Adelidis uxor mee" confirmed a previous donation of property to Tremblay by "filius noster Gaucherus de Castillione" by charter dated Jan 1205[36], although Gauthier was the son of Raoul's wife by her second marriage.
"m firstly ([1156/60]) as his second wife, VALERAN [III] Seigneur de Breteuil, son of ERARD [III] "le Vaillant" Seigneur de Breteuil & his first wife Beatrix de Coucy (-1162).
"m secondly ([1162/66]) GUY [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, son of GAUCHER [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne & his wife Ada de Roucy (-[1170], bur église collégiale de Dreux).
"m thirdly ([1170]) JEAN [I] Seigneur de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon et de Coucy, son of ROGER Seigneur de Thourotte & his wife Havide --- (-[1176/77]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Guidonem et Iohannem de Torota" as the children of "Alaydis [filia comitem de Brana Robertum domnum]" and her third husband, specifying that Jean was father of "Iohannis et Rodulfi Virdunensis et Roberti Ledodiensis episcoporum"[37]. In a later passage, the same source names him "Iohannes castellanus Noviomensis frater castellanorum de Coci" and adding that he was father of "Iohannem de Torota qui sororem habuit domni de Dampetra"[38].
"m fourthly (1182 or before) as his first wife, RAOUL de Nesle Comte de Soissons, son of RAOUL Seigneur de Nesle, Châtelain de Bruges & his wife Gertrude de Montaigu (-4 Jan 1235)."
Med Lands cites:
[31] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 845-6.
[32] Saint-Amand, XXIV, p. 173.
[33] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 24, p. 11.
[34] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 241, quoting Extrait des archives de l’abbaye de S. Maur des Fossez.
[35] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXIV, p. 170.
[36] Tremblay-en-France, 5.
[37] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846.
[38] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219, MGH SS XXIII, p. 909.5
[32] Saint-Amand, XXIV, p. 173.
[33] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 24, p. 11.
[34] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 241, quoting Extrait des archives de l’abbaye de S. Maur des Fossez.
[35] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXIV, p. 170.
[36] Tremblay-en-France, 5.
[37] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846.
[38] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219, MGH SS XXIII, p. 909.5
; Per Racines et Histoire (Dreux): “1) Alix (Adèle) de Dreux ° 1145/46 + entre 01/1205 et 03/1210 (citée chartes de donation à Notre-Dame d’Ourscamp 1199 et au Tremblay 01/1205)
ép. 1) après 24/06/1156 (1160 ?) Valeran III, comte de Breteuil + 1162 (fils d’Erard III «Le Vaillant» de Breteuil et de Béatrix de Coucy ou de Basilie de Bulles ? ; veuf de Holdeburge, dame d’Ailly-sur-Noye (80))
ép. 2) 1162/66 Gui II de Châtillon, seigneur de Châtillon et de Montjay + ~1170 (fils de Gaucher II de Châtillon et d’Ade de Roucy, dame de Pierrefonds)
ép. 3) ~1170 Jean 1er de Thourotte + 1176/77 châtelain de Noyon et Coucy (fils de Jean, Châtelain de Coucy, et d’Adélaïde, ou de Roger de Thourotte et de Hadevide ?)
ép. 4) dès 1182 Raoul III de Nesle (1er de Soissons) + 04/01/1235 comte de Soissons, Châtelain de Bruges (fils de Raoul de Nesle, Châtelain de Bruges, et de Gertrude de Montaigu ; ép. 2) ~1210 Yolande de Joinville + ~1212 ; ép. 3) ~1223 Ade d’Avesnes + ~1249)”.12
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Adele, *1144/45, living 1210; 1m: after 24.6.1156 Cte Valeran III de Breteuil; 2m: 1161/2 Guy II, sn de Chatillon; 3m: Jean I de Thorotte (+1176/77); 4m: before 1183 Raoul I de Nesle, Cte de Soissons (+1235.)1"
Family 1 | Adèle/Alix de Dreux Dame de Montjay b. bt 1145 - 1146 |
Children |
Family 2 | Yolande (?) d. a 1210 |
Child |
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Family 3 | Ade (Agnès) (?) d'Avesnes, Heiress of Hans b. c 1168, d. a 1249 |
Child |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raoul de Nesle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026381&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avesnes.pdf, p. 4. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Soissons.pdf, p. 5.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#AdeleAlixDreuxdied12051210. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adèle de Dreux: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027533&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Châtillon (-sur-Marne) & Saint-Pol, Blois, Porcien, etc., p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Chatillon.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Yolande: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120738&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ade d'Avesnes: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020649&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders3.html
- [S1841] Leo van de Pas, "van de Pas email 24 Nov 2004 "Re: Husband(s) of Alice de Roucy?"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 24 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "van de Pas email 24 Nov 2004."
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Dreux, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Dreux.pdf
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Beaumont 1 page (The family of Beaumont-sur-Oise): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/beaumont/beaumont1.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaumont-dur-Oise.pdf, p. 3.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleonore de Soissons: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00330715&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#AlienorNesledied12291234
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Soissons, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Soissons.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gertrude de Soissons: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026380&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Morency 1 page - Montmorency family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/morency/morency1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jean II de Nesle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00113074&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Moreuil-Soissons.pdf, p. 2.
Henri de Dreux Bishop of Orleans1
M, #56168, b. 1155, d. 1199
Father | Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle1,2,3 b. c 1123, d. 11 Oct 1188 |
Mother | Agnès de Baudément dame de Baudement, de Braine-sur-Vesle, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy1,3,4 b. 1130, d. 24 Jul 1204 |
Last Edited | 3 Oct 2020 |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013794&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#RobertIDreuxdied1188B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnès de Baudement: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013795&tree=LEO
Philippe de Dreux Bishop of Beauvais1
M, #56169, b. 1158, d. 1217
Father | Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle1,2 b. c 1123, d. 11 Oct 1188 |
Mother | Agnès de Baudément dame de Baudement, de Braine-sur-Vesle, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy1,2 b. 1130, d. 24 Jul 1204 |
Last Edited | 3 Oct 2020 |
Philippe de Dreux Bishop of Beauvais was born in 1158.1
Philippe de Dreux Bishop of Beauvais died in 1217.1
Philippe de Dreux Bishop of Beauvais died in 1217.1
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#RobertIDreuxdied1188B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Pierre de Dreux1
M, #56170, b. 1161, d. between 1185 and 1188
Father | Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle1,2 b. c 1123, d. 11 Oct 1188 |
Mother | Agnès de Baudément dame de Baudement, de Braine-sur-Vesle, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy1,2 b. 1130, d. 24 Jul 1204 |
Last Edited | 3 Oct 2020 |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#RobertIDreuxdied1188B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Guillaume de Dreux seigneur de Braye1
M, #56171, b. 1163, d. after 1189
Father | Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle1,2 b. c 1123, d. 11 Oct 1188 |
Mother | Agnès de Baudément dame de Baudement, de Braine-sur-Vesle, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy1,2 b. 1130, d. 24 Jul 1204 |
Last Edited | 3 Oct 2020 |
Guillaume de Dreux seigneur de Braye was born in 1163.1
Guillaume de Dreux seigneur de Braye died after 1189.1
Guillaume de Dreux seigneur de Braye died after 1189.1
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#RobertIDreuxdied1188B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Jean de Dreux1
M, #56172, b. 1164, d. after 1189
Father | Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle1,2 b. c 1123, d. 11 Oct 1188 |
Mother | Agnès de Baudément dame de Baudement, de Braine-sur-Vesle, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy1,2 b. 1130, d. 24 Jul 1204 |
Last Edited | 3 Oct 2020 |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#RobertIDreuxdied1188B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Isabelle/Elisabeth de Dreux Dame de Baudemont1,2,3
F, #56173, b. circa 1160, d. 1239
Father | Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle1,4,5,2,3 b. c 1123, d. 11 Oct 1188 |
Mother | Agnès de Baudément dame de Baudement, de Braine-sur-Vesle, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy1,5,6,2,3 b. 1130, d. 24 Jul 1204 |
Last Edited | 28 Nov 2020 |
Isabelle/Elisabeth de Dreux Dame de Baudemont was born circa 1160.1,2,3 She married Hugues III de Broyes seigneur de Broyes et de Chateauvillain, son of Simon I (?) seigneur de Broyes et de Beaufort and Felicite (?) de Brienne, circa 1178
;
His 2nd wife.1,7,8,9,10,2,3
Isabelle/Elisabeth de Dreux Dame de Baudemont died in 1239.1,2,3
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 6:149.2
; Per Med Lands:
"ISABELLE de Dreux ([1160]-1239). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "matrem Symonis de Castro Villani" as one of the two daughters of "comes Robertus" & his second wife, in a later passage naming her "Isabellam domna de Baia" when recording her death in 1239[54]. "Hugo Brecensis dominus" confirmed "iuris in molendinis de Moire" to Marmoutier, with the support of “uxor mea Elizabeth et Simon frater meus et Simon filius meus de Commarceio”, by charter dated 1178[55]. “Hugo Brecarum et Castelli-Villani dominus” founded the hospital des Bonshommes, with the consent of “Helisabeth uxoris meæ et infantium nostrorum Simonis et Amelinæ”, by charter dated 1184[56]. Dame d'Arc-en-Barrois et de Cour-l'Evêque: Hugues de Broyes granted “in Burgundia...castrum de Arc, et Curt Evesque, quæ est inferius” and property “ab Arc superius in riveria de Avigny usque à Chamerois, id est...villa de Chamerois et vineam de Vaurencio” to “eidem Helysabeth” by charter dated 1197[57]. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Clairvaux, with the consent of "Elisabeth uxor mea et Symon filius meus junior et Emelina filia mea domina de Chanlita", by charter dated 1200 [misdated?][58]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1239 of "Isabella domna de Baia, mater Symonis de Castro Villani"[59].
"m (before 1178) as his second wife, HUGUES [III] Seigneur de Broyes et de Châteauvillain, son of SIMON [I] Seigneur de Broyes & his wife Félicité de Brienne (-1199, bur Clairvaux)."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Capet 6): “A10. [3m.] Isabelle, Dame de Baudement, *1160, +1239; m.ca 1178 Hugues III de Broyes (+1199)”.11
; Per Racines et Histoire (Dreux): “2) Isabelle (Elisabeth) de Dreux ° 1160 + 1239 dame de Baudement
ép. avant 1178 Hugues III de Broyes + 1199 (inh. à Clairvaux) seigneur de Broyes et Châteauvillain (fils de Simon 1er de Broyes et de Félicité de Brienne ; veuf de Stéphanie de Bar, dame de Commercy)”.12
; Per Racines et Histoire (Broyes): “Hugues III de Broyes, seigneur de Broyes (Marne), Châteauvillain, Arc-en-Barrois, Commercy (Meuse), Villenauxe (Aube) et Champigny-sur-Aube (Aube)
ép. 1) dès 22/10/1144 Stéphanie (Etiennette) de Bar, dame de Commercy ° ~1125 + un 12/03 avant 1178 (fille de Renaud 1er dit «Le Borgne» de Bar et de Mousson, et de Gisèle (ou Gillette) de Vaudémont)
ép. 2) ~1178 Isabelle (Isabeau) de Dreux, dame de Baudément (Marne), Arc-en-Barrois et Cour-L’Evêque (1197) ° ~1160 + 1239 (fille de Robert 1er «Le Grand», comte de Dreux, et d’Agnès de Baudément, dame de Braine) ”.8
; Per Genealogy.EU (Broyes 1): “F1. Hugues III de Broyes et de Chateauvilain, +1199; 1m: before 22.10.1144 Stephanie of Bar (+before 1178); 2m: ca 1178 Isabelle de Dreux (*1160 +1239)”.13
; Per Med Lands:
"HUGUES [III] de Broyes (-1199, bur Clairvaux). "Simon dominus Brecarum" donated property to Andecy (Marne) by charter dated 1131 with the consent of "Felicitatis uxoris sue et liberorum suorum Hugonis…Symonis et Emelina"[84]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Hugonem de Brois qui iacet in Claravalle et Symonem de Belloforti" as sons of "Symon de Brois" & his wife[85]. Seigneur de Broyes et de Châteauvillain. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Molesme, with the consent of "uxore mea Stephania, fratreque meo Simone", by charter dated 1144[86]. "Simon dominus Belfortis" donated property to Chapelle-aux-Planches by charter dated 1152 in which he names "Hugone fratre meo domino de Brecis", in the presence of "domini Wilermi domini de Dampetra […et Heleidis mater eius…] et Milonis de Planceii"[87]. “Symon Bellifortus dominus” donated property “in pedagio de Rammerru” to Molesmes by charter dated 1155, witnessed by “Hugone fratre meo Brecarum domino, Gaufredo grosso Jovis ville domino”[88]. "Nobilis mulier Felicitas" donated property at Chasteler to Andecy (Marne) by charter dated 1171 with the consent of "filiorum suorum Hugonis domini Brecarum et domini Symonis de Beaufort"[89]. "Hugo Brecensis dominus" confirmed "iuris in molendinis de Moire" to Marmoutier, with the support of “uxor mea Elizabeth et Simon frater meus et Simon filius meus de Commarceio”, by charter dated 1178[90]. "Symon dominus Bellifortis" donated property to Chapelle-aux-Planches by charter dated 1182 in which he names "Agnes uxor mea et dominus Hugo Brecarum frater meus"[91]. “Hugo Brecarum et Castelli-Villani dominus” founded the hospital des Bonshommes, with the consent of “Helisabeth uxoris meæ et infantium nostrorum Simonis et Amelinæ”, by charter dated 1184[92]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Hugo de Brois" as son of "Symon domnus de Brois" & his wife, specifying that he held his lands "circiter per annos 80", which is exaggerated, recording in a later passage his death in 1199 and burial at Clairvaux[93]. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Clairvaux, with the consent of "Elisabeth uxor mea et Symon filius meus junior et Emelina filia mea domina de Chanlita", by charter dated 1200 [misdated?][94].
"m firstly (before 22 Oct 1144) STEPHANIE de Bar Dame de Commercy, daughter of RENAUD I Comte de Bar et de Mousson & his second wife Gisèle de Vaudémont (-12 Mar [1170/78]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to "quarta [sorore eiusdem comitis =comes Barri iunior Raynaldus]" as mother of "Symon de Commarceio et due sorores illius"[95]. Dame de Commercy: “Etiennette fille de Renaud I de Bar” is named “seigneur de Commercy” in the charter dated 1140 for Riéval[96]. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Molesme, with the consent of "uxore mea Stephania, fratreque meo Simone", by charter dated 1144[97]. “Etiennette...avec Galliena châtelaine de Bar” donated “la terre de Rompoint” to Rangéval by charter dated 1165[98]. She is named in a charter dated 1170 which records the donation of “un jardin près d’Aulnoy” to Rangéval[99]. Pope Alexander III confirmed donations made to Riéval abbey, including the donation of Pope Alexander III confirmed donations made to Riéval abbey, including the donation of “allodium de Bernaicuria” made by “hæredes eiusdem allodii...in villis Neves scilicet Maligneio, Sorceio, Commarceio, Lorovilla”, and of “locum de Bellomonte qui antiquitus...Rampans...cum pasturis...terræ castello de Commarceio” made by “domini de Commarceio Stephania...assensu Simonis filii sui et filiarum suarum et Stephanus junior de Sorceio et Savaricus de Belleramo assensu Theoderici Metensis episcopi et Petri Tullensis episcopi”, by charter dated 1179[100]. Pope Lucius III confirmed donations made to Riéval abbey, including the donation of “Neves scilicet Commarceio, Sorbeio, Meligneio, Levovilla, locum de Bemont qui antiquitatis Rampuns...animalium pasturis...terræ domino de Commerceio pertinentis” made by “Stephania comitissa prædicti castri assensu Simonis filii sui et filiarum suarum Sophiæ et Agnetis et Stephani quondam Metensis episcopi [so the original donation dated to before 1162] a quo illum in feudum tenebat, et Stephanus de Sorceio et Savaricus de Belloramo assensu uxoris suæ Mathildis, et Philippus castellanus Barri assensu filiorum suorum Gerardi et Ulrici”, by charter dated 5 Jan 1181 (O.S.?)[101].
"m secondly (before 1178) ISABELLE de Dreux Dame de Baudémont, daughter of ROBERT I "le Grand" Comte de Dreux [Capet] & his second wife Agnes de Baudemont dame de Braine (1160-1239). "Hugo Brecensis dominus" confirmed "iuris in molendinis de Moire" to Marmoutier, with the support of “uxor mea Elizabeth et Simon frater meus et Simon filius meus de Commarceio”, by charter dated 1178[102]. “Hugo Brecarum et Castelli-Villani dominus” founded the hospital des Bonshommes, with the consent of “Helisabeth uxoris meæ et infantium nostrorum Simonis et Amelinæ”, by charter dated 1184[103]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "matrem Symonis de Castro Villani" as one of the two daughters of "comes Robertus" & his second wife, in a later passage naming her "Isabellam domna de Baia" when recording her death in 1239[104]. Dame d'Arc-en-Barrois et de Cour-l'Evêque: Hugues de Broyes granted “in Burgundia...castrum de Arc, et Curt Evesque, quæ est inferius” and property “ab Arc superius in riveria de Avigny usque à Chamerois, id est...villa de Chamerois et vineam de Vaurencio” to “eidem Helysabeth” by charter dated 1197[105]. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Clairvaux, with the consent of "Elisabeth uxor mea et Symon filius meus junior et Emelina filia mea domina de Chanlita", by charter dated 1200 [misdated?][106]. “Helizabel domina Castri Villani et...Simon de Castro Villani filius eius” transferred “motam et fortericiam Vaudemonti et...Corbeson, Soysi, Thomines et Estrechi, et Waisiam” to Blanche comtesse de Champagne and her son by charter dated Feb 1210[107]. "Simon dominus Castrivillani...et...mater mea et Aalis uxor mea" confirmed donations to Recluse made by “pater meus Hugo quondam dominus Brecarum” by charter dated Oct 1225[108]."
Med Lands cites:
;
His 2nd wife.1,7,8,9,10,2,3
Isabelle/Elisabeth de Dreux Dame de Baudemont died in 1239.1,2,3
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 6:149.2
; Per Med Lands:
"ISABELLE de Dreux ([1160]-1239). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "matrem Symonis de Castro Villani" as one of the two daughters of "comes Robertus" & his second wife, in a later passage naming her "Isabellam domna de Baia" when recording her death in 1239[54]. "Hugo Brecensis dominus" confirmed "iuris in molendinis de Moire" to Marmoutier, with the support of “uxor mea Elizabeth et Simon frater meus et Simon filius meus de Commarceio”, by charter dated 1178[55]. “Hugo Brecarum et Castelli-Villani dominus” founded the hospital des Bonshommes, with the consent of “Helisabeth uxoris meæ et infantium nostrorum Simonis et Amelinæ”, by charter dated 1184[56]. Dame d'Arc-en-Barrois et de Cour-l'Evêque: Hugues de Broyes granted “in Burgundia...castrum de Arc, et Curt Evesque, quæ est inferius” and property “ab Arc superius in riveria de Avigny usque à Chamerois, id est...villa de Chamerois et vineam de Vaurencio” to “eidem Helysabeth” by charter dated 1197[57]. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Clairvaux, with the consent of "Elisabeth uxor mea et Symon filius meus junior et Emelina filia mea domina de Chanlita", by charter dated 1200 [misdated?][58]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1239 of "Isabella domna de Baia, mater Symonis de Castro Villani"[59].
"m (before 1178) as his second wife, HUGUES [III] Seigneur de Broyes et de Châteauvillain, son of SIMON [I] Seigneur de Broyes & his wife Félicité de Brienne (-1199, bur Clairvaux)."
Med Lands cites:
[54] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219 and 1239, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 909 and 945.
[55] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 16.
[56] Carnandet (1856), p. 74.
[57] Carnandet (1856), p. 8, no citation reference.
[58] Petit, Vol. II, 694, p. 458.
[59] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1239, MGH SS XXIII, p. 945.3
[55] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 16.
[56] Carnandet (1856), p. 74.
[57] Carnandet (1856), p. 8, no citation reference.
[58] Petit, Vol. II, 694, p. 458.
[59] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1239, MGH SS XXIII, p. 945.3
; Per Genealogy.EU (Capet 6): “A10. [3m.] Isabelle, Dame de Baudement, *1160, +1239; m.ca 1178 Hugues III de Broyes (+1199)”.11
; Per Racines et Histoire (Dreux): “2) Isabelle (Elisabeth) de Dreux ° 1160 + 1239 dame de Baudement
ép. avant 1178 Hugues III de Broyes + 1199 (inh. à Clairvaux) seigneur de Broyes et Châteauvillain (fils de Simon 1er de Broyes et de Félicité de Brienne ; veuf de Stéphanie de Bar, dame de Commercy)”.12
; Per Racines et Histoire (Broyes): “Hugues III de Broyes, seigneur de Broyes (Marne), Châteauvillain, Arc-en-Barrois, Commercy (Meuse), Villenauxe (Aube) et Champigny-sur-Aube (Aube)
ép. 1) dès 22/10/1144 Stéphanie (Etiennette) de Bar, dame de Commercy ° ~1125 + un 12/03 avant 1178 (fille de Renaud 1er dit «Le Borgne» de Bar et de Mousson, et de Gisèle (ou Gillette) de Vaudémont)
ép. 2) ~1178 Isabelle (Isabeau) de Dreux, dame de Baudément (Marne), Arc-en-Barrois et Cour-L’Evêque (1197) ° ~1160 + 1239 (fille de Robert 1er «Le Grand», comte de Dreux, et d’Agnès de Baudément, dame de Braine) ”.8
; Per Genealogy.EU (Broyes 1): “F1. Hugues III de Broyes et de Chateauvilain, +1199; 1m: before 22.10.1144 Stephanie of Bar (+before 1178); 2m: ca 1178 Isabelle de Dreux (*1160 +1239)”.13
; Per Med Lands:
"HUGUES [III] de Broyes (-1199, bur Clairvaux). "Simon dominus Brecarum" donated property to Andecy (Marne) by charter dated 1131 with the consent of "Felicitatis uxoris sue et liberorum suorum Hugonis…Symonis et Emelina"[84]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Hugonem de Brois qui iacet in Claravalle et Symonem de Belloforti" as sons of "Symon de Brois" & his wife[85]. Seigneur de Broyes et de Châteauvillain. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Molesme, with the consent of "uxore mea Stephania, fratreque meo Simone", by charter dated 1144[86]. "Simon dominus Belfortis" donated property to Chapelle-aux-Planches by charter dated 1152 in which he names "Hugone fratre meo domino de Brecis", in the presence of "domini Wilermi domini de Dampetra […et Heleidis mater eius…] et Milonis de Planceii"[87]. “Symon Bellifortus dominus” donated property “in pedagio de Rammerru” to Molesmes by charter dated 1155, witnessed by “Hugone fratre meo Brecarum domino, Gaufredo grosso Jovis ville domino”[88]. "Nobilis mulier Felicitas" donated property at Chasteler to Andecy (Marne) by charter dated 1171 with the consent of "filiorum suorum Hugonis domini Brecarum et domini Symonis de Beaufort"[89]. "Hugo Brecensis dominus" confirmed "iuris in molendinis de Moire" to Marmoutier, with the support of “uxor mea Elizabeth et Simon frater meus et Simon filius meus de Commarceio”, by charter dated 1178[90]. "Symon dominus Bellifortis" donated property to Chapelle-aux-Planches by charter dated 1182 in which he names "Agnes uxor mea et dominus Hugo Brecarum frater meus"[91]. “Hugo Brecarum et Castelli-Villani dominus” founded the hospital des Bonshommes, with the consent of “Helisabeth uxoris meæ et infantium nostrorum Simonis et Amelinæ”, by charter dated 1184[92]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Hugo de Brois" as son of "Symon domnus de Brois" & his wife, specifying that he held his lands "circiter per annos 80", which is exaggerated, recording in a later passage his death in 1199 and burial at Clairvaux[93]. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Clairvaux, with the consent of "Elisabeth uxor mea et Symon filius meus junior et Emelina filia mea domina de Chanlita", by charter dated 1200 [misdated?][94].
"m firstly (before 22 Oct 1144) STEPHANIE de Bar Dame de Commercy, daughter of RENAUD I Comte de Bar et de Mousson & his second wife Gisèle de Vaudémont (-12 Mar [1170/78]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to "quarta [sorore eiusdem comitis =comes Barri iunior Raynaldus]" as mother of "Symon de Commarceio et due sorores illius"[95]. Dame de Commercy: “Etiennette fille de Renaud I de Bar” is named “seigneur de Commercy” in the charter dated 1140 for Riéval[96]. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Molesme, with the consent of "uxore mea Stephania, fratreque meo Simone", by charter dated 1144[97]. “Etiennette...avec Galliena châtelaine de Bar” donated “la terre de Rompoint” to Rangéval by charter dated 1165[98]. She is named in a charter dated 1170 which records the donation of “un jardin près d’Aulnoy” to Rangéval[99]. Pope Alexander III confirmed donations made to Riéval abbey, including the donation of Pope Alexander III confirmed donations made to Riéval abbey, including the donation of “allodium de Bernaicuria” made by “hæredes eiusdem allodii...in villis Neves scilicet Maligneio, Sorceio, Commarceio, Lorovilla”, and of “locum de Bellomonte qui antiquitus...Rampans...cum pasturis...terræ castello de Commarceio” made by “domini de Commarceio Stephania...assensu Simonis filii sui et filiarum suarum et Stephanus junior de Sorceio et Savaricus de Belleramo assensu Theoderici Metensis episcopi et Petri Tullensis episcopi”, by charter dated 1179[100]. Pope Lucius III confirmed donations made to Riéval abbey, including the donation of “Neves scilicet Commarceio, Sorbeio, Meligneio, Levovilla, locum de Bemont qui antiquitatis Rampuns...animalium pasturis...terræ domino de Commerceio pertinentis” made by “Stephania comitissa prædicti castri assensu Simonis filii sui et filiarum suarum Sophiæ et Agnetis et Stephani quondam Metensis episcopi [so the original donation dated to before 1162] a quo illum in feudum tenebat, et Stephanus de Sorceio et Savaricus de Belloramo assensu uxoris suæ Mathildis, et Philippus castellanus Barri assensu filiorum suorum Gerardi et Ulrici”, by charter dated 5 Jan 1181 (O.S.?)[101].
"m secondly (before 1178) ISABELLE de Dreux Dame de Baudémont, daughter of ROBERT I "le Grand" Comte de Dreux [Capet] & his second wife Agnes de Baudemont dame de Braine (1160-1239). "Hugo Brecensis dominus" confirmed "iuris in molendinis de Moire" to Marmoutier, with the support of “uxor mea Elizabeth et Simon frater meus et Simon filius meus de Commarceio”, by charter dated 1178[102]. “Hugo Brecarum et Castelli-Villani dominus” founded the hospital des Bonshommes, with the consent of “Helisabeth uxoris meæ et infantium nostrorum Simonis et Amelinæ”, by charter dated 1184[103]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "matrem Symonis de Castro Villani" as one of the two daughters of "comes Robertus" & his second wife, in a later passage naming her "Isabellam domna de Baia" when recording her death in 1239[104]. Dame d'Arc-en-Barrois et de Cour-l'Evêque: Hugues de Broyes granted “in Burgundia...castrum de Arc, et Curt Evesque, quæ est inferius” and property “ab Arc superius in riveria de Avigny usque à Chamerois, id est...villa de Chamerois et vineam de Vaurencio” to “eidem Helysabeth” by charter dated 1197[105]. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Clairvaux, with the consent of "Elisabeth uxor mea et Symon filius meus junior et Emelina filia mea domina de Chanlita", by charter dated 1200 [misdated?][106]. “Helizabel domina Castri Villani et...Simon de Castro Villani filius eius” transferred “motam et fortericiam Vaudemonti et...Corbeson, Soysi, Thomines et Estrechi, et Waisiam” to Blanche comtesse de Champagne and her son by charter dated Feb 1210[107]. "Simon dominus Castrivillani...et...mater mea et Aalis uxor mea" confirmed donations to Recluse made by “pater meus Hugo quondam dominus Brecarum” by charter dated Oct 1225[108]."
Med Lands cites:
[84] Andecy (Marne) 161, p. 259.
[85] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1107, MGH SS XXIII, p. 818.
[86] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 14.
[87] Chapelle-aux-Planches, 11, p. 11.
[88] Molesmes (1864), p. 273.
[89] Andecy (Marne) 169, p. 265.
[90] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 16.
[91] Chapelle-aux-Planches, 30, p. 30.
[92] Carnandet (1856), p. 74.
[93] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1132 and 1199, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 831 and 877.
[94] Petit, Vol. II, 694, p. 458.
[95] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1170, MGH SS XXIII, p. 853.
[96] François-Vivès ‘Les seigneurs de Commercy’ (1936), p. 114, citing “Acte de fondation de Riéval, B. N., coll. Lorr., vol. 287, fol. 25 et suiv.”.
[97] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 14.
[98] François-Vivès ‘Les seigneurs de Commercy’ (1936), Tome LXXIV, p. 119, citing “Arch. de la Meuse, série H, non classée, fonds de Riéval”.
[99] François-Vivès ‘Les seigneurs de Commercy’ (1936), Tome LXXIV, p. 120, citing “B. N., coll. de Lorr., vol. 721, fol. 99 (inventaire des archives de Riéval)”.
[100] Hugo (1736), Tome II, Probationes, col. ccccix.
[101] Hugo (1736), Tome II, Probationes, col. ccccxii.
[102] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 16.
[103] Carnandet (1856), p. 74.
[104] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219 and 1239, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 909 and 945.
[105] Carnandet (1856), p. 8, no citation reference.
[106] Petit, Vol. II, 694, p. 458.
[107] Chantereau le Febvre (1662), Autres preuves par les Actes, p. 42.
[108] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 32.10
[85] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1107, MGH SS XXIII, p. 818.
[86] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 14.
[87] Chapelle-aux-Planches, 11, p. 11.
[88] Molesmes (1864), p. 273.
[89] Andecy (Marne) 169, p. 265.
[90] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 16.
[91] Chapelle-aux-Planches, 30, p. 30.
[92] Carnandet (1856), p. 74.
[93] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1132 and 1199, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 831 and 877.
[94] Petit, Vol. II, 694, p. 458.
[95] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1170, MGH SS XXIII, p. 853.
[96] François-Vivès ‘Les seigneurs de Commercy’ (1936), p. 114, citing “Acte de fondation de Riéval, B. N., coll. Lorr., vol. 287, fol. 25 et suiv.”.
[97] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 14.
[98] François-Vivès ‘Les seigneurs de Commercy’ (1936), Tome LXXIV, p. 119, citing “Arch. de la Meuse, série H, non classée, fonds de Riéval”.
[99] François-Vivès ‘Les seigneurs de Commercy’ (1936), Tome LXXIV, p. 120, citing “B. N., coll. de Lorr., vol. 721, fol. 99 (inventaire des archives de Riéval)”.
[100] Hugo (1736), Tome II, Probationes, col. ccccix.
[101] Hugo (1736), Tome II, Probationes, col. ccccxii.
[102] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 16.
[103] Carnandet (1856), p. 74.
[104] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219 and 1239, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 909 and 945.
[105] Carnandet (1856), p. 8, no citation reference.
[106] Petit, Vol. II, 694, p. 458.
[107] Chantereau le Febvre (1662), Autres preuves par les Actes, p. 42.
[108] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 32.10
Family | Hugues III de Broyes seigneur de Broyes et de Chateauvillain d. a 1199 |
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Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elisabeth (Isabelle) de Dreux: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164485&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
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- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013794&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#RobertIDreuxdied1188B
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Hugues III de Broyes seigneur de Broyes et de Chateauvillain1,2,3,4,5
M, #56174, d. after 1199
Father | Simon I (?) seigneur de Broyes et de Beaufort2,3,4,5 d. bt 1132 - 1136 |
Mother | Felicite (?) de Brienne2,3,4,5 d. a 21 Jun 1178 |
Last Edited | 28 Nov 2020 |
Hugues III de Broyes seigneur de Broyes et de Chateauvillain married Stephanie (?) de Bar-le-Duc, daughter of Renaud/Reinald I "One-Eyed/Le Borgne" (?) comte de Bar, Mousson and Gisele de Vaudémont, before 22 October 1144
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His 1st wife.2,6,3,4,5,7,8,9 Hugues III de Broyes seigneur de Broyes et de Chateauvillain married Isabelle/Elisabeth de Dreux Dame de Baudemont, daughter of Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle and Agnès de Baudément dame de Baudement, de Braine-sur-Vesle, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy, circa 1178
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His 2nd wife.1,2,3,4,5,10,11
Hugues III de Broyes seigneur de Broyes et de Chateauvillain died after 1199.1,2,12,4,5
; Per Med Lands:
"ISABELLE de Dreux ([1160]-1239). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "matrem Symonis de Castro Villani" as one of the two daughters of "comes Robertus" & his second wife, in a later passage naming her "Isabellam domna de Baia" when recording her death in 1239[54]. "Hugo Brecensis dominus" confirmed "iuris in molendinis de Moire" to Marmoutier, with the support of “uxor mea Elizabeth et Simon frater meus et Simon filius meus de Commarceio”, by charter dated 1178[55]. “Hugo Brecarum et Castelli-Villani dominus” founded the hospital des Bonshommes, with the consent of “Helisabeth uxoris meæ et infantium nostrorum Simonis et Amelinæ”, by charter dated 1184[56]. Dame d'Arc-en-Barrois et de Cour-l'Evêque: Hugues de Broyes granted “in Burgundia...castrum de Arc, et Curt Evesque, quæ est inferius” and property “ab Arc superius in riveria de Avigny usque à Chamerois, id est...villa de Chamerois et vineam de Vaurencio” to “eidem Helysabeth” by charter dated 1197[57]. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Clairvaux, with the consent of "Elisabeth uxor mea et Symon filius meus junior et Emelina filia mea domina de Chanlita", by charter dated 1200 [misdated?][58]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1239 of "Isabella domna de Baia, mater Symonis de Castro Villani"[59].
"m (before 1178) as his second wife, HUGUES [III] Seigneur de Broyes et de Châteauvillain, son of SIMON [I] Seigneur de Broyes & his wife Félicité de Brienne (-1199, bur Clairvaux)."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Dreux): “2) Isabelle (Elisabeth) de Dreux ° 1160 + 1239 dame de Baudement
ép. avant 1178 Hugues III de Broyes + 1199 (inh. à Clairvaux) seigneur de Broyes et Châteauvillain (fils de Simon 1er de Broyes et de Félicité de Brienne ; veuf de Stéphanie de Bar, dame de Commercy)”.13
; Per Genealogy.EU (Capet 6): “A10. [3m.] Isabelle, Dame de Baudement, *1160, +1239; m.ca 1178 Hugues III de Broyes (+1199)”.14
; This is the same person as ”Hugh III of Broyes” at Wikipedia and as ”Hugues III de Broyes” at Wikipédia (FR).15,16
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Broyes): “Hugues III de Broyes, seigneur de Broyes (Marne), Châteauvillain, Arc-en-Barrois, Commercy (Meuse), Villenauxe (Aube) et Champigny-sur-Aube (Aube)
ép. 1) dès 22/10/1144 Stéphanie (Etiennette) de Bar, dame de Commercy ° ~1125 + un 12/03 avant 1178 (fille de Renaud 1er dit «Le Borgne» de Bar et de Mousson, et de Gisèle (ou Gillette) de Vaudémont)
ép. 2) ~1178 Isabelle (Isabeau) de Dreux, dame de Baudément (Marne), Arc-en-Barrois et Cour-L’Evêque (1197) ° ~1160 + 1239 (fille de Robert 1er «Le Grand», comte de Dreux, et d’Agnès de Baudément, dame de Braine) ”.3
; Per Med Lands:
"HUGUES [III] de Broyes (-1199, bur Clairvaux). "Simon dominus Brecarum" donated property to Andecy (Marne) by charter dated 1131 with the consent of "Felicitatis uxoris sue et liberorum suorum Hugonis…Symonis et Emelina"[84]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Hugonem de Brois qui iacet in Claravalle et Symonem de Belloforti" as sons of "Symon de Brois" & his wife[85]. Seigneur de Broyes et de Châteauvillain. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Molesme, with the consent of "uxore mea Stephania, fratreque meo Simone", by charter dated 1144[86]. "Simon dominus Belfortis" donated property to Chapelle-aux-Planches by charter dated 1152 in which he names "Hugone fratre meo domino de Brecis", in the presence of "domini Wilermi domini de Dampetra […et Heleidis mater eius…] et Milonis de Planceii"[87]. “Symon Bellifortus dominus” donated property “in pedagio de Rammerru” to Molesmes by charter dated 1155, witnessed by “Hugone fratre meo Brecarum domino, Gaufredo grosso Jovis ville domino”[88]. "Nobilis mulier Felicitas" donated property at Chasteler to Andecy (Marne) by charter dated 1171 with the consent of "filiorum suorum Hugonis domini Brecarum et domini Symonis de Beaufort"[89]. "Hugo Brecensis dominus" confirmed "iuris in molendinis de Moire" to Marmoutier, with the support of “uxor mea Elizabeth et Simon frater meus et Simon filius meus de Commarceio”, by charter dated 1178[90]. "Symon dominus Bellifortis" donated property to Chapelle-aux-Planches by charter dated 1182 in which he names "Agnes uxor mea et dominus Hugo Brecarum frater meus"[91]. “Hugo Brecarum et Castelli-Villani dominus” founded the hospital des Bonshommes, with the consent of “Helisabeth uxoris meæ et infantium nostrorum Simonis et Amelinæ”, by charter dated 1184[92]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Hugo de Brois" as son of "Symon domnus de Brois" & his wife, specifying that he held his lands "circiter per annos 80", which is exaggerated, recording in a later passage his death in 1199 and burial at Clairvaux[93]. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Clairvaux, with the consent of "Elisabeth uxor mea et Symon filius meus junior et Emelina filia mea domina de Chanlita", by charter dated 1200 [misdated?][94].
"m firstly (before 22 Oct 1144) STEPHANIE de Bar Dame de Commercy, daughter of RENAUD I Comte de Bar et de Mousson & his second wife Gisèle de Vaudémont (-12 Mar [1170/78]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to "quarta [sorore eiusdem comitis =comes Barri iunior Raynaldus]" as mother of "Symon de Commarceio et due sorores illius"[95]. Dame de Commercy: “Etiennette fille de Renaud I de Bar” is named “seigneur de Commercy” in the charter dated 1140 for Riéval[96]. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Molesme, with the consent of "uxore mea Stephania, fratreque meo Simone", by charter dated 1144[97]. “Etiennette...avec Galliena châtelaine de Bar” donated “la terre de Rompoint” to Rangéval by charter dated 1165[98]. She is named in a charter dated 1170 which records the donation of “un jardin près d’Aulnoy” to Rangéval[99]. Pope Alexander III confirmed donations made to Riéval abbey, including the donation of Pope Alexander III confirmed donations made to Riéval abbey, including the donation of “allodium de Bernaicuria” made by “hæredes eiusdem allodii...in villis Neves scilicet Maligneio, Sorceio, Commarceio, Lorovilla”, and of “locum de Bellomonte qui antiquitus...Rampans...cum pasturis...terræ castello de Commarceio” made by “domini de Commarceio Stephania...assensu Simonis filii sui et filiarum suarum et Stephanus junior de Sorceio et Savaricus de Belleramo assensu Theoderici Metensis episcopi et Petri Tullensis episcopi”, by charter dated 1179[100]. Pope Lucius III confirmed donations made to Riéval abbey, including the donation of “Neves scilicet Commarceio, Sorbeio, Meligneio, Levovilla, locum de Bemont qui antiquitatis Rampuns...animalium pasturis...terræ domino de Commerceio pertinentis” made by “Stephania comitissa prædicti castri assensu Simonis filii sui et filiarum suarum Sophiæ et Agnetis et Stephani quondam Metensis episcopi [so the original donation dated to before 1162] a quo illum in feudum tenebat, et Stephanus de Sorceio et Savaricus de Belloramo assensu uxoris suæ Mathildis, et Philippus castellanus Barri assensu filiorum suorum Gerardi et Ulrici”, by charter dated 5 Jan 1181 (O.S.?)[101].
"m secondly (before 1178) ISABELLE de Dreux Dame de Baudémont, daughter of ROBERT I "le Grand" Comte de Dreux [Capet] & his second wife Agnes de Baudemont dame de Braine (1160-1239). "Hugo Brecensis dominus" confirmed "iuris in molendinis de Moire" to Marmoutier, with the support of “uxor mea Elizabeth et Simon frater meus et Simon filius meus de Commarceio”, by charter dated 1178[102]. “Hugo Brecarum et Castelli-Villani dominus” founded the hospital des Bonshommes, with the consent of “Helisabeth uxoris meæ et infantium nostrorum Simonis et Amelinæ”, by charter dated 1184[103]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "matrem Symonis de Castro Villani" as one of the two daughters of "comes Robertus" & his second wife, in a later passage naming her "Isabellam domna de Baia" when recording her death in 1239[104]. Dame d'Arc-en-Barrois et de Cour-l'Evêque: Hugues de Broyes granted “in Burgundia...castrum de Arc, et Curt Evesque, quæ est inferius” and property “ab Arc superius in riveria de Avigny usque à Chamerois, id est...villa de Chamerois et vineam de Vaurencio” to “eidem Helysabeth” by charter dated 1197[105]. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Clairvaux, with the consent of "Elisabeth uxor mea et Symon filius meus junior et Emelina filia mea domina de Chanlita", by charter dated 1200 [misdated?][106]. “Helizabel domina Castri Villani et...Simon de Castro Villani filius eius” transferred “motam et fortericiam Vaudemonti et...Corbeson, Soysi, Thomines et Estrechi, et Waisiam” to Blanche comtesse de Champagne and her son by charter dated Feb 1210[107]. "Simon dominus Castrivillani...et...mater mea et Aalis uxor mea" confirmed donations to Recluse made by “pater meus Hugo quondam dominus Brecarum” by charter dated Oct 1225[108]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Broyes 1): “F1. Hugues III de Broyes et de Chateauvilain, +1199; 1m: before 22.10.1144 Stephanie of Bar (+before 1178); 2m: ca 1178 Isabelle de Dreux (*1160 +1239)”.17
; Per Genealogy.EU (Bar 1): “C8. [2m.] Stephanie, +before 1178; m.before 22.10.1144 Hugues III de Broyes (+after 1199)”.18
; Per Med Lands:
"STEPHANIE de Bar (-12 Mar [1170/78]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to "quarta [sorore eiusdem comitis =comes Barri iunior Raynaldus]" as mother of "Symon de Commarceio et due sorores illius"[180]. Dame de Commercy: “Etiennette fille de Renaud I de Bar” is named “seigneur de Commercy” in the charter dated 1140 for Riéval[181]. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Molesme, with the consent of "uxore mea Stephania, fratreque meo Simone", by charter dated 1144[182]. “Etiennette...avec Galliena châtelaine de Bar” donated “la terre de Rompoint” to Rangéval by charter dated 1165[183]. She is named in a charter dated 1170 which records the donation of “un jardin près d’Aulnoy” to Rangéval[184]. Pope Alexander III confirmed donations made to Riéval abbey, including the donation of “locum de Bellomonte qui antiquitus...Rampans...cum pasturis...terræ castello de Commarceio” made by “domini de Commarceio Stephania...assensu Simonis filii sui et filiarum suarum et Stephanus junior de Sorceio et Savaricus de Belleramo assensu Theoderici Metensis episcopi et Petri Tullensis episcopi”, by charter dated 1179[185].
"m (before 22 Oct 1144) as his first wife, HUGUES [III] Seigneur de Broyes et de Châteauvillain, son of SIMON [I] Seigneur de Broyes & his wife Félicité de Brienne (-1199, bur Clairvaux)."
Med Lands cites:
;
His 1st wife.2,6,3,4,5,7,8,9 Hugues III de Broyes seigneur de Broyes et de Chateauvillain married Isabelle/Elisabeth de Dreux Dame de Baudemont, daughter of Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle and Agnès de Baudément dame de Baudement, de Braine-sur-Vesle, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy, circa 1178
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His 2nd wife.1,2,3,4,5,10,11
Hugues III de Broyes seigneur de Broyes et de Chateauvillain died after 1199.1,2,12,4,5
; Per Med Lands:
"ISABELLE de Dreux ([1160]-1239). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "matrem Symonis de Castro Villani" as one of the two daughters of "comes Robertus" & his second wife, in a later passage naming her "Isabellam domna de Baia" when recording her death in 1239[54]. "Hugo Brecensis dominus" confirmed "iuris in molendinis de Moire" to Marmoutier, with the support of “uxor mea Elizabeth et Simon frater meus et Simon filius meus de Commarceio”, by charter dated 1178[55]. “Hugo Brecarum et Castelli-Villani dominus” founded the hospital des Bonshommes, with the consent of “Helisabeth uxoris meæ et infantium nostrorum Simonis et Amelinæ”, by charter dated 1184[56]. Dame d'Arc-en-Barrois et de Cour-l'Evêque: Hugues de Broyes granted “in Burgundia...castrum de Arc, et Curt Evesque, quæ est inferius” and property “ab Arc superius in riveria de Avigny usque à Chamerois, id est...villa de Chamerois et vineam de Vaurencio” to “eidem Helysabeth” by charter dated 1197[57]. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Clairvaux, with the consent of "Elisabeth uxor mea et Symon filius meus junior et Emelina filia mea domina de Chanlita", by charter dated 1200 [misdated?][58]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1239 of "Isabella domna de Baia, mater Symonis de Castro Villani"[59].
"m (before 1178) as his second wife, HUGUES [III] Seigneur de Broyes et de Châteauvillain, son of SIMON [I] Seigneur de Broyes & his wife Félicité de Brienne (-1199, bur Clairvaux)."
Med Lands cites:
[54] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219 and 1239, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 909 and 945.
[55] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 16.
[56] Carnandet (1856), p. 74.
[57] Carnandet (1856), p. 8, no citation reference.
[58] Petit, Vol. II, 694, p. 458.
[59] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1239, MGH SS XXIII, p. 945.11
[55] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 16.
[56] Carnandet (1856), p. 74.
[57] Carnandet (1856), p. 8, no citation reference.
[58] Petit, Vol. II, 694, p. 458.
[59] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1239, MGH SS XXIII, p. 945.11
; Per Racines et Histoire (Dreux): “2) Isabelle (Elisabeth) de Dreux ° 1160 + 1239 dame de Baudement
ép. avant 1178 Hugues III de Broyes + 1199 (inh. à Clairvaux) seigneur de Broyes et Châteauvillain (fils de Simon 1er de Broyes et de Félicité de Brienne ; veuf de Stéphanie de Bar, dame de Commercy)”.13
; Per Genealogy.EU (Capet 6): “A10. [3m.] Isabelle, Dame de Baudement, *1160, +1239; m.ca 1178 Hugues III de Broyes (+1199)”.14
; This is the same person as ”Hugh III of Broyes” at Wikipedia and as ”Hugues III de Broyes” at Wikipédia (FR).15,16
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 6:149.
2. Encyclopedie Genealogique des Maisons Souveraines du Monde, Paris, VIII 1963,IX 1964,XII 1966, Sirjean, Docteur Gaston. 244.4
2. Encyclopedie Genealogique des Maisons Souveraines du Monde, Paris, VIII 1963,IX 1964,XII 1966, Sirjean, Docteur Gaston. 244.4
; Per Racines et Histoire (Broyes): “Hugues III de Broyes, seigneur de Broyes (Marne), Châteauvillain, Arc-en-Barrois, Commercy (Meuse), Villenauxe (Aube) et Champigny-sur-Aube (Aube)
ép. 1) dès 22/10/1144 Stéphanie (Etiennette) de Bar, dame de Commercy ° ~1125 + un 12/03 avant 1178 (fille de Renaud 1er dit «Le Borgne» de Bar et de Mousson, et de Gisèle (ou Gillette) de Vaudémont)
ép. 2) ~1178 Isabelle (Isabeau) de Dreux, dame de Baudément (Marne), Arc-en-Barrois et Cour-L’Evêque (1197) ° ~1160 + 1239 (fille de Robert 1er «Le Grand», comte de Dreux, et d’Agnès de Baudément, dame de Braine) ”.3
; Per Med Lands:
"HUGUES [III] de Broyes (-1199, bur Clairvaux). "Simon dominus Brecarum" donated property to Andecy (Marne) by charter dated 1131 with the consent of "Felicitatis uxoris sue et liberorum suorum Hugonis…Symonis et Emelina"[84]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Hugonem de Brois qui iacet in Claravalle et Symonem de Belloforti" as sons of "Symon de Brois" & his wife[85]. Seigneur de Broyes et de Châteauvillain. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Molesme, with the consent of "uxore mea Stephania, fratreque meo Simone", by charter dated 1144[86]. "Simon dominus Belfortis" donated property to Chapelle-aux-Planches by charter dated 1152 in which he names "Hugone fratre meo domino de Brecis", in the presence of "domini Wilermi domini de Dampetra […et Heleidis mater eius…] et Milonis de Planceii"[87]. “Symon Bellifortus dominus” donated property “in pedagio de Rammerru” to Molesmes by charter dated 1155, witnessed by “Hugone fratre meo Brecarum domino, Gaufredo grosso Jovis ville domino”[88]. "Nobilis mulier Felicitas" donated property at Chasteler to Andecy (Marne) by charter dated 1171 with the consent of "filiorum suorum Hugonis domini Brecarum et domini Symonis de Beaufort"[89]. "Hugo Brecensis dominus" confirmed "iuris in molendinis de Moire" to Marmoutier, with the support of “uxor mea Elizabeth et Simon frater meus et Simon filius meus de Commarceio”, by charter dated 1178[90]. "Symon dominus Bellifortis" donated property to Chapelle-aux-Planches by charter dated 1182 in which he names "Agnes uxor mea et dominus Hugo Brecarum frater meus"[91]. “Hugo Brecarum et Castelli-Villani dominus” founded the hospital des Bonshommes, with the consent of “Helisabeth uxoris meæ et infantium nostrorum Simonis et Amelinæ”, by charter dated 1184[92]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Hugo de Brois" as son of "Symon domnus de Brois" & his wife, specifying that he held his lands "circiter per annos 80", which is exaggerated, recording in a later passage his death in 1199 and burial at Clairvaux[93]. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Clairvaux, with the consent of "Elisabeth uxor mea et Symon filius meus junior et Emelina filia mea domina de Chanlita", by charter dated 1200 [misdated?][94].
"m firstly (before 22 Oct 1144) STEPHANIE de Bar Dame de Commercy, daughter of RENAUD I Comte de Bar et de Mousson & his second wife Gisèle de Vaudémont (-12 Mar [1170/78]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to "quarta [sorore eiusdem comitis =comes Barri iunior Raynaldus]" as mother of "Symon de Commarceio et due sorores illius"[95]. Dame de Commercy: “Etiennette fille de Renaud I de Bar” is named “seigneur de Commercy” in the charter dated 1140 for Riéval[96]. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Molesme, with the consent of "uxore mea Stephania, fratreque meo Simone", by charter dated 1144[97]. “Etiennette...avec Galliena châtelaine de Bar” donated “la terre de Rompoint” to Rangéval by charter dated 1165[98]. She is named in a charter dated 1170 which records the donation of “un jardin près d’Aulnoy” to Rangéval[99]. Pope Alexander III confirmed donations made to Riéval abbey, including the donation of Pope Alexander III confirmed donations made to Riéval abbey, including the donation of “allodium de Bernaicuria” made by “hæredes eiusdem allodii...in villis Neves scilicet Maligneio, Sorceio, Commarceio, Lorovilla”, and of “locum de Bellomonte qui antiquitus...Rampans...cum pasturis...terræ castello de Commarceio” made by “domini de Commarceio Stephania...assensu Simonis filii sui et filiarum suarum et Stephanus junior de Sorceio et Savaricus de Belleramo assensu Theoderici Metensis episcopi et Petri Tullensis episcopi”, by charter dated 1179[100]. Pope Lucius III confirmed donations made to Riéval abbey, including the donation of “Neves scilicet Commarceio, Sorbeio, Meligneio, Levovilla, locum de Bemont qui antiquitatis Rampuns...animalium pasturis...terræ domino de Commerceio pertinentis” made by “Stephania comitissa prædicti castri assensu Simonis filii sui et filiarum suarum Sophiæ et Agnetis et Stephani quondam Metensis episcopi [so the original donation dated to before 1162] a quo illum in feudum tenebat, et Stephanus de Sorceio et Savaricus de Belloramo assensu uxoris suæ Mathildis, et Philippus castellanus Barri assensu filiorum suorum Gerardi et Ulrici”, by charter dated 5 Jan 1181 (O.S.?)[101].
"m secondly (before 1178) ISABELLE de Dreux Dame de Baudémont, daughter of ROBERT I "le Grand" Comte de Dreux [Capet] & his second wife Agnes de Baudemont dame de Braine (1160-1239). "Hugo Brecensis dominus" confirmed "iuris in molendinis de Moire" to Marmoutier, with the support of “uxor mea Elizabeth et Simon frater meus et Simon filius meus de Commarceio”, by charter dated 1178[102]. “Hugo Brecarum et Castelli-Villani dominus” founded the hospital des Bonshommes, with the consent of “Helisabeth uxoris meæ et infantium nostrorum Simonis et Amelinæ”, by charter dated 1184[103]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "matrem Symonis de Castro Villani" as one of the two daughters of "comes Robertus" & his second wife, in a later passage naming her "Isabellam domna de Baia" when recording her death in 1239[104]. Dame d'Arc-en-Barrois et de Cour-l'Evêque: Hugues de Broyes granted “in Burgundia...castrum de Arc, et Curt Evesque, quæ est inferius” and property “ab Arc superius in riveria de Avigny usque à Chamerois, id est...villa de Chamerois et vineam de Vaurencio” to “eidem Helysabeth” by charter dated 1197[105]. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Clairvaux, with the consent of "Elisabeth uxor mea et Symon filius meus junior et Emelina filia mea domina de Chanlita", by charter dated 1200 [misdated?][106]. “Helizabel domina Castri Villani et...Simon de Castro Villani filius eius” transferred “motam et fortericiam Vaudemonti et...Corbeson, Soysi, Thomines et Estrechi, et Waisiam” to Blanche comtesse de Champagne and her son by charter dated Feb 1210[107]. "Simon dominus Castrivillani...et...mater mea et Aalis uxor mea" confirmed donations to Recluse made by “pater meus Hugo quondam dominus Brecarum” by charter dated Oct 1225[108]."
Med Lands cites:
[84] Andecy (Marne) 161, p. 259.
[85] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1107, MGH SS XXIII, p. 818.
[86] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 14.
[87] Chapelle-aux-Planches, 11, p. 11.
[88] Molesmes (1864), p. 273.
[89] Andecy (Marne) 169, p. 265.
[90] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 16.
[91] Chapelle-aux-Planches, 30, p. 30.
[92] Carnandet (1856), p. 74.
[93] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1132 and 1199, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 831 and 877.
[94] Petit, Vol. II, 694, p. 458.
[95] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1170, MGH SS XXIII, p. 853.
[96] François-Vivès ‘Les seigneurs de Commercy’ (1936), p. 114, citing “Acte de fondation de Riéval, B. N., coll. Lorr., vol. 287, fol. 25 et suiv.”.
[97] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 14.
[98] François-Vivès ‘Les seigneurs de Commercy’ (1936), Tome LXXIV, p. 119, citing “Arch. de la Meuse, série H, non classée, fonds de Riéval”.
[99] François-Vivès ‘Les seigneurs de Commercy’ (1936), Tome LXXIV, p. 120, citing “B. N., coll. de Lorr., vol. 721, fol. 99 (inventaire des archives de Riéval)”.
[100] Hugo (1736), Tome II, Probationes, col. ccccix.
[101] Hugo (1736), Tome II, Probationes, col. ccccxii.
[102] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 16.
[103] Carnandet (1856), p. 74.
[104] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219 and 1239, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 909 and 945.
[105] Carnandet (1856), p. 8, no citation reference.
[106] Petit, Vol. II, 694, p. 458.
[107] Chantereau le Febvre (1662), Autres preuves par les Actes, p. 42.
[108] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 32.5
[85] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1107, MGH SS XXIII, p. 818.
[86] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 14.
[87] Chapelle-aux-Planches, 11, p. 11.
[88] Molesmes (1864), p. 273.
[89] Andecy (Marne) 169, p. 265.
[90] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 16.
[91] Chapelle-aux-Planches, 30, p. 30.
[92] Carnandet (1856), p. 74.
[93] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1132 and 1199, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 831 and 877.
[94] Petit, Vol. II, 694, p. 458.
[95] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1170, MGH SS XXIII, p. 853.
[96] François-Vivès ‘Les seigneurs de Commercy’ (1936), p. 114, citing “Acte de fondation de Riéval, B. N., coll. Lorr., vol. 287, fol. 25 et suiv.”.
[97] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 14.
[98] François-Vivès ‘Les seigneurs de Commercy’ (1936), Tome LXXIV, p. 119, citing “Arch. de la Meuse, série H, non classée, fonds de Riéval”.
[99] François-Vivès ‘Les seigneurs de Commercy’ (1936), Tome LXXIV, p. 120, citing “B. N., coll. de Lorr., vol. 721, fol. 99 (inventaire des archives de Riéval)”.
[100] Hugo (1736), Tome II, Probationes, col. ccccix.
[101] Hugo (1736), Tome II, Probationes, col. ccccxii.
[102] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 16.
[103] Carnandet (1856), p. 74.
[104] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219 and 1239, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 909 and 945.
[105] Carnandet (1856), p. 8, no citation reference.
[106] Petit, Vol. II, 694, p. 458.
[107] Chantereau le Febvre (1662), Autres preuves par les Actes, p. 42.
[108] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 32.5
; Per Genealogy.EU (Broyes 1): “F1. Hugues III de Broyes et de Chateauvilain, +1199; 1m: before 22.10.1144 Stephanie of Bar (+before 1178); 2m: ca 1178 Isabelle de Dreux (*1160 +1239)”.17
; Per Genealogy.EU (Bar 1): “C8. [2m.] Stephanie, +before 1178; m.before 22.10.1144 Hugues III de Broyes (+after 1199)”.18
; Per Med Lands:
"STEPHANIE de Bar (-12 Mar [1170/78]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to "quarta [sorore eiusdem comitis =comes Barri iunior Raynaldus]" as mother of "Symon de Commarceio et due sorores illius"[180]. Dame de Commercy: “Etiennette fille de Renaud I de Bar” is named “seigneur de Commercy” in the charter dated 1140 for Riéval[181]. "Hugo dominus Brecarum" donated property to Molesme, with the consent of "uxore mea Stephania, fratreque meo Simone", by charter dated 1144[182]. “Etiennette...avec Galliena châtelaine de Bar” donated “la terre de Rompoint” to Rangéval by charter dated 1165[183]. She is named in a charter dated 1170 which records the donation of “un jardin près d’Aulnoy” to Rangéval[184]. Pope Alexander III confirmed donations made to Riéval abbey, including the donation of “locum de Bellomonte qui antiquitus...Rampans...cum pasturis...terræ castello de Commarceio” made by “domini de Commarceio Stephania...assensu Simonis filii sui et filiarum suarum et Stephanus junior de Sorceio et Savaricus de Belleramo assensu Theoderici Metensis episcopi et Petri Tullensis episcopi”, by charter dated 1179[185].
"m (before 22 Oct 1144) as his first wife, HUGUES [III] Seigneur de Broyes et de Châteauvillain, son of SIMON [I] Seigneur de Broyes & his wife Félicité de Brienne (-1199, bur Clairvaux)."
Med Lands cites:
[180] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1170, MGH SS XXIII, p. 853.
[181] François-Vivès, S. ‘Les seigneurs de Commercy au moyen âge’, Mémoires de la Société d’Archéologie lorraine, Tome LXXIV, (Nancy, 1936), p. 114, citing “Acte de fondation de Riéval, B. N., coll. Lorr., vol. 287, fol. 25 et suiv.”.
[182] Duchesne, A. (1631) Histoire généalogique de la maison royale de Dreux (Paris), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 14.
[183] François-Vivès ‘Les seigneurs de Commercy’ (1936), Tome LXXIV, p. 119, citing “Arch. de la Meuse, série H, non classée, fonds de Riéval”.
[184] François-Vivès ‘Les seigneurs de Commercy’ (1936), Tome LXXIV, p. 120, citing “B. N., coll. de Lorr., vol. 721, fol. 99 (inventaire des archives de Riéval)”.
[185] Præmonstratensis Annales (1736), Tome II, Probationes, col. ccccix.9
[181] François-Vivès, S. ‘Les seigneurs de Commercy au moyen âge’, Mémoires de la Société d’Archéologie lorraine, Tome LXXIV, (Nancy, 1936), p. 114, citing “Acte de fondation de Riéval, B. N., coll. Lorr., vol. 287, fol. 25 et suiv.”.
[182] Duchesne, A. (1631) Histoire généalogique de la maison royale de Dreux (Paris), Broyes et Châteauvillain, Preuves, p. 14.
[183] François-Vivès ‘Les seigneurs de Commercy’ (1936), Tome LXXIV, p. 119, citing “Arch. de la Meuse, série H, non classée, fonds de Riéval”.
[184] François-Vivès ‘Les seigneurs de Commercy’ (1936), Tome LXXIV, p. 120, citing “B. N., coll. de Lorr., vol. 721, fol. 99 (inventaire des archives de Riéval)”.
[185] Præmonstratensis Annales (1736), Tome II, Probationes, col. ccccix.9
Family 1 | Stephanie (?) de Bar-le-Duc b. c 1125, d. b 12 Mar 1178 |
Children |
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Family 2 | Isabelle/Elisabeth de Dreux Dame de Baudemont b. c 1160, d. 1239 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Broyes 1 page (The Family de Broyes): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/broyes1.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, seigneurs de Broyes & Commercy, Sarrebrücken, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Broyes.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues III de Broyes: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028383&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamchalons.htm#HuguesIIIBroyesdied1199. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Bar, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Stephanie de Bar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00030542&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAR.htm#StephanieMHuguesBroyes
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elisabeth (Isabelle) de Dreux: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164485&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#IsabelleDreuxdied1239
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 4.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Dreux, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Dreux.pdf
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#IR1
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_III_of_Broyes. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Hugues III de Broyes: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugues_III_de_Broyes. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Broyes 1 page (The Family de Broyes): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/broyes1.html#H3
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html#SR1
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Simon II-I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00030543&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamchalons.htm#SimonIBroyesCommercydied1208B
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Emeline de Broyes: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197507&tree=LEO
Mamilie de Dreux Prioress of Wariville1
F, #56175, b. 1166, d. 1200
Father | Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle1,2 b. c 1123, d. 11 Oct 1188 |
Mother | Agnès de Baudément dame de Baudement, de Braine-sur-Vesle, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy1,2 b. 1130, d. 24 Jul 1204 |
Last Edited | 3 Oct 2020 |
Mamilie de Dreux Prioress of Wariville was born in 1166.1
Mamilie de Dreux Prioress of Wariville died in 1200.1
Mamilie de Dreux Prioress of Wariville died in 1200.1
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#RobertIDreuxdied1188B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Marguerite de Dreux1
F, #56176, b. 1167
Father | Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle1,2 b. c 1123, d. 11 Oct 1188 |
Mother | Agnès de Baudément dame de Baudement, de Braine-sur-Vesle, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy1,2 b. 1130, d. 24 Jul 1204 |
Last Edited | 3 Oct 2020 |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#RobertIDreuxdied1188B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Raimond (?) Comte de Grignon, seigneur de Montpensier1
M, #56177, b. 1125, d. 1 March 1170
Father | Hugues II Borel (?) Duc de Bourgogne2 b. 1084, d. Feb 1143 |
Mother | Mathilde/Maud de Mayenne2,3 d. a 1162 |
Last Edited | 1 Nov 2020 |
Raimond (?) Comte de Grignon, seigneur de Montpensier was born in 1125.2 He married Agnes de Thiern Dame de Montpensier-en-Auvergne, daughter of Guy de Thiern seigneur de Montpensier, in 1140
; her 1st husband; Genealogy.EU (Capet 9 page) says m. ca 1145.1,4
Raimond (?) Comte de Grignon, seigneur de Montpensier died on 1 March 1170.2
; Raimond, Cte de Grignon, sn de Montpensier, *1125, +28.6.1156; m.ca 1145 Agnes, dau.of Guy de Thiern, sn de Montpensier.2
; her 1st husband; Genealogy.EU (Capet 9 page) says m. ca 1145.1,4
Raimond (?) Comte de Grignon, seigneur de Montpensier died on 1 March 1170.2
; Raimond, Cte de Grignon, sn de Montpensier, *1125, +28.6.1156; m.ca 1145 Agnes, dau.of Guy de Thiern, sn de Montpensier.2
Family | Agnes de Thiern Dame de Montpensier-en-Auvergne |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 9 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet9.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 9 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet9.html#MRM
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde de Mayenne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020165&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Thiern: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027378&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mahaud de Bourgogne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013797&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 9. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
Agnes de Thiern Dame de Montpensier-en-Auvergne1,2
F, #56178
Father | Guy de Thiern seigneur de Montpensier3,4 |
Reference | EDV26 |
Last Edited | 9 Nov 2020 |
Agnes de Thiern Dame de Montpensier-en-Auvergne married Raimond (?) Comte de Grignon, seigneur de Montpensier, son of Hugues II Borel (?) Duc de Bourgogne and Mathilde/Maud de Mayenne, in 1140
; her 1st husband; Genealogy.EU (Capet 9 page) says m. ca 1145.5,6 Agnes de Thiern Dame de Montpensier-en-Auvergne married Humbert IV de Beaujeu, son of Humbert III de Beaujeu Sire de Beaujeu and Alix/Elisa (?) of Savoy, Dame de Châteauneuf-en-Valromey, de Virieu-le-Grand, et de Cordon-en-Bugey, circa 1160
; her 2nd husband.1,6
EDV-26.
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Encyclopedie Genealogique des Maisons Souveraines du Monde Paris, VIII 1963,IX 1964,XII 1966., Docteur Gaston Sirjean, Reference: 13
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XI 156.6
; Agnes, dau.of Guy de Thiern, sn de Montpensier.3 Agnes de Thiern Dame de Montpensier-en-Auvergne was also known as Agnès de Thiers dame de Montpensier.7
; her 1st husband; Genealogy.EU (Capet 9 page) says m. ca 1145.5,6 Agnes de Thiern Dame de Montpensier-en-Auvergne married Humbert IV de Beaujeu, son of Humbert III de Beaujeu Sire de Beaujeu and Alix/Elisa (?) of Savoy, Dame de Châteauneuf-en-Valromey, de Virieu-le-Grand, et de Cordon-en-Bugey, circa 1160
; her 2nd husband.1,6
EDV-26.
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Encyclopedie Genealogique des Maisons Souveraines du Monde Paris, VIII 1963,IX 1964,XII 1966., Docteur Gaston Sirjean, Reference: 13
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XI 156.6
; Agnes, dau.of Guy de Thiern, sn de Montpensier.3 Agnes de Thiern Dame de Montpensier-en-Auvergne was also known as Agnès de Thiers dame de Montpensier.7
Family 1 | Raimond (?) Comte de Grignon, seigneur de Montpensier b. 1125, d. 1 Mar 1170 |
Children |
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Family 2 | Humbert IV de Beaujeu b. 1142, d. 1202 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Beaujeu 2 page (Sires de Beaujeu): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/beaujeu2.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 9 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet9.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 9 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet9.html#MRM
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy de Thiern: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027379&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 9 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet9.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Thiern: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027378&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 9. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mahaud de Bourgogne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013797&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guichard IV 'le Grand': http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026299&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 11.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alix de Beaujeu: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027380&tree=LEO
Guy de Thiern seigneur de Montpensier1
M, #56179
Father | Guy de Thiern Comte de Châlons2,3 |
Reference | EDV27 |
Last Edited | 9 Nov 2020 |
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Encyclopedie Genealogique des Maisons Souveraines du Monde Paris, VIII 1963,IX 1964,XII 1966., Docteur Gaston Sirjean, Reference: 13
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XI 156
3. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 433.3 EDV-27.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XI 156
3. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 433.3 EDV-27.
Family | |
Child |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 9 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet9.html#MRM
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy de Thiern: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106078&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy de Thiern: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027379&tree=LEO
Hugues (?) de Bourgogne1
M, #56180, b. 1147, d. circa 1156
Father | Raimond (?) Comte de Grignon, seigneur de Montpensier1 b. 1125, d. 1 Mar 1170 |
Mother | Agnes de Thiern Dame de Montpensier-en-Auvergne1,2 |
Last Edited | 14 Dec 2003 |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 9 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet9.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Thiern: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027378&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
Matilda/Mahaut (?) de Bourgogne, Dame de Montpensier, Comtesse de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux1,2,3,4
F, #56181, b. 1150, d. 17 December 1192
Father | Raimond (?) Comte de Grignon, seigneur de Montpensier5,3,4 b. 1125, d. 1 Mar 1170 |
Mother | Agnes de Thiern Dame de Montpensier-en-Auvergne5,6,3,4 |
Reference | EDV26 |
Last Edited | 7 Nov 2020 |
Matilda/Mahaut (?) de Bourgogne, Dame de Montpensier, Comtesse de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux was born in 1150.1,2 She married Eudes III d'Issoudon before 15 April 1165
;
H-er 1st husband (per Genealogy.EU Capet 9 page.)5,4,7 Matilda/Mahaut (?) de Bourgogne, Dame de Montpensier, Comtesse de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux married Gui I de Nevers Comte de Nevers et de Tonnerre, son of Guillaume III de Nevers Comte de Nevers, d'Auxerre et de Tonnerre and Ida von Kärnten, in 1168
;
Her 2nd husband.8,7 Matilda/Mahaut (?) de Bourgogne, Dame de Montpensier, Comtesse de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux married Guy I (Pierre) (?) Cte de Nevers, son of Thierry III d'Alsace (?) comte de Flandres and Sibilla/Sibyl/Sibylle (?) d'Anjou, Countess of Flanders, circa 1175
;
Her 3rd husband (per Genealogy.EU Capet 9 page); Racines et Histoire says m 1176.5,9,3,10,4,7 Matilda/Mahaut (?) de Bourgogne, Dame de Montpensier, Comtesse de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux married Robert II le Jeune de Dreux comte de Dreux et de Braine, seigneur de Torcy, de Brie-Comte-Robert, de Chilly, de Longjumeau, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy, son of Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle and Agnès de Baudément dame de Baudement, de Braine-sur-Vesle, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy, circa 1178
;
Her 4th husband (per Genealogy.EU Capet 9 page); his 1st wife.1,11,3,4,7,12,13 Matilda/Mahaut (?) de Bourgogne, Dame de Montpensier, Comtesse de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux and Robert II le Jeune de Dreux comte de Dreux et de Braine, seigneur de Torcy, de Brie-Comte-Robert, de Chilly, de Longjumeau, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy were divorced in 1181.1,11,4,13
Matilda/Mahaut (?) de Bourgogne, Dame de Montpensier, Comtesse de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux died on 17 December 1192 at Fontevraud-l'Abbaye, Departement de Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France.1,2,4
Matilda/Mahaut (?) de Bourgogne, Dame de Montpensier, Comtesse de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux was buried after 17 December 1192 at Fontevraud-l'Abbaye, Departement de Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1150
DEATH 17 Dec 1192 (aged 41–42)
Nobility, daughter of Raimond de Bourgogne, Comte de Grignon and his wife Agnes de Thiers, dame de Montpensier. As she was her parents only surviving child, (her brother Hugues died aged nine) she inherited their titles after their death. She was married four times: first to Eudes II Seigneur d'Issoudun who died two years after the marriage, second Guy I, Count of Nevers and Tonnerre with whom she was married 8 years. When he refused to do homage to her cousin Hugues III he was imprisoned and died a year later. She inherited the county of Tonnerre from him. Her third husband was Pierre of Flanders. She married her last husband Robert II Count of Dreux around 1178 but the marriage was annulled due to consanguinity. After that she retired to Fontevraud and became a nun.
Family Members
Parents
Raymond de Bourgogne 1125–1156
Siblings
Hugues de Bourgogne
BURIAL Fontevraud Abbey, Fontevraud-l'Abbaye, Departement de Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France
Created by: Lutetia
Added: 3 Nov 2009
Find A Grave Memorial 43880180.5,14
; Per Med Lands:
"ROBERT [II] de Dreux, son of ROBERT [I] "le Grand" Seigneur de Dreux & his second wife Agnès de Baudemont dame de Braine ([1153]-28 Dec 1218, bur Braine, église abbatiale de Saint-Ived). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "duos episcopos et comitem Robertum II de Brana et sorores duas eorum" as children of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" & his second wife[66]. "Robertus…comes Drocarum et Brane et…et uxor mea Agnes comitissa Brane" donated revenue from property "apud Qualliacum" to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, with the consent of "Roberti filii nostri", by charter dated 1178[67]. "Robertus comes frater…regis Francorum Ludovici et…uxor mea Agnes comitissa Brenensis et filii nostri Robertus dominus Drocarum, Willelmus et Iohannes" donated property to Sainte Geneviève by charter dated 1184[68]. "R comes dominus Droc et Bran" donated property to Notre-Dame de la Trappe naming "R pater meus comes…frater Ludovici…regis Francie" by charter dated Jul 1212[69]. Seigneur de Nesles 1170. Having married the widow of the Comte de Nevers, he administered the counties of Nevers, Auxerre and Tonnerre during the minority of his stepson Comte Guillaume V. He succeeded his father 1184 as Comte de Dreux, and in 1188 as Comte de Braine. "Robertus comes, dominus Drocarum" donated property "in…Rupis Fortis" to Notre-Dame des Vaux de Cernay, with the consent of "uxoris mee Yolendis", by charter dated to [1184/1200][70]. “Robertus comes, dominus Drocarum et Braye, et Yolendis comitissa uxor mea” donated property to Notre-Dame, Paris, with the consent of “Roberti filii nostri”, by charter dated 1208[71]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1218 of "comes Robertus" in the same week as the marriage of his daughter Philippa[72]. The Chronicon Fiscannensis Cœnobii records the death in 1218 of "Robertus Comes Drocensis et Branæ, filius Agnetis Comitissæ"[73].
"m firstly (1177, separated for consanguinity 1181) as her fourth husband, MATHILDE de Bourgogne Ctss de Grignon, widow firstly of EUDES [II] Seigneur d'Issoudun, secondly of GUY [I] Comte de Nevers Comte d'Auxerre et Comte de Tonnerre, and thirdly of PIERRE de Flandre, daughter of RAIMOND de Bourgogne [Capet] Comte de Grignon & his wife Agnès de Thiers dame de Montpensier (1150-Fontevrault 1192, bur there). The Chronologia Roberti Altissiodorenses records that, after the death of "Guido comes", his wife "Mathildis" married "Petro Flandrensis" and after his death "Roberto", stating that they were separated for consanguinity soon after their marriage[74].
"m secondly (1184) YOLANDE de Coucy, daughter of RAOUL [I] de Coucy Seigneur de Coucy & his first wife Agnès de Hainaut ([1164]-Braine, Aisne 18 Mar 1222, bur Braine, église abbatiale de Saint-Ived). The Chronicon Hanoniense names (in order) "Iolandem…Agnetis…tercia…Ada" as the three daughters of "Radulphus de Cocy" & his wife, specifying that Yolande married "Roberto comiti de Drecis et de Braina, filioque Roberti comitis fratris Ludovici regis Francorum"[75]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the two daughters of "Rodulfo de Marla" & his wife Agnes as "mater…comitis de Grandiprato, altera Hyolenz [uxor] comiti de Brana Roberto"[76]. "Robertus comes, dominus Drocarum" donated property "in…Rupis Fortis" to Notre-Dame des Vaux de Cernay, with the consent of "uxoris mee Yolendis", by charter dated to [1184/1200][77]. “Robertus comes, dominus Drocarum et Braye, et Yolendis comitissa uxor mea” donated property to Notre-Dame, Paris, with the consent of “Roberti filii nostri”, by charter dated 1208[78]. "R comes dominus Droc et Bran" donated property to Notre-Dame de la Trappe with the consent of "Agnetis uxoris eius [R patris meis]…comitisse matris mee…et Yolande comitisse uxore mee et liberorum meorum" by charter dated Jul 1212[79]. The necrology of Reims [Saint-Rémi] records the death "XV Kal Apr" of "Ioles Brane comitissa"[80]."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Matilda, Dame de Montpensier, *1150, +Fontevrault 1192, bur there; 1m: before 15.4.1165 Eudes III d'Issoudun (+1167); 2m: ca 1168 Guy I, Cte de Nevers et de Tonnerre (+1175); 3m: 1175/76 Pierre of Flanders, Cte de Nevers (+1176); 4m: 1178 (div 1181) Cte Robert II de Dreux (+1218.)1"
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE de Bourgogne (1150-17 Dec [1219], bur Abbaye de Fontevraud). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Remundus" as father of "Mathildis comitisse Nivernensis"[302]. She succeeded her father as Ctss de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux, and her mother as Dame de Montpensier. She succeeded her second husband in 1175 as Ctss de Tonnerre. Robert of Torigny records the marriage in 1177 of "Petrus frater Philippi comitis Flandrensium" and "comitissa Nivernensis quæ fuerat uxor domini Isoldunensis castri"[303]. The Chronologia Roberti Altissiodorenses records that, after the death of "Guido comes", his wife "Mathildis" married "Petro Flandrensis" and after his death "Roberto", stating that they were separated for consanguinity soon after their marriage[304]. "Matilidis comitissa" confirmed a previous donation to Cîteaux by "Agnes mater mea comitissa" for the soul of "patris mei Raimundi" with the consent of "filii mei Odo et Guillermus et Agnes et Ida" by charter dated 1179[305]. "Mathildis comitissa Nivernensis" donated property to Jully-les-Nonnains for the soul of "Guillelmi filii mei" and for the anniversaries of "…comitis Guidonis, comitis Petri, domini Odonis de Yxolduno" (her first three husbands) by charter dated 1182[306]. "Matildis comitissa" donated property to Cîteaux for the souls of "Guidonis comitis Nivernensis, Petri Flandrensis et Odonis" with the consent of "filie mee Agnes…filia comitis Guidonis et Sibilla filia comitis Petri flandrensis" by charter dated 1182[307]. After the annulment of her fourth marriage, she became a nun at Fontevraud. "Hugo…dux Burgundiæ et Albonii comes" confirmed "[cum] assensu filiorum meorum Oddonis et Alexandri" the concession to Cluny by "consanguineæ meæ Matildi comitissæ Tornodori" by charter dated 1186[308]. “Odo dominus Exolduni”, on leaving for Jerusalem, confirmed the privileges of “burgensibus Exoldunensis castri” by charter dated 1190, witnessed by “domina M. comitissa Tornodori…”[309].
"m firstly (before 15 Apr 1165) EUDES [II] Seigneur d'Issoudun, son of RAOUL [II] Seigneur d'Issoudun & his wife Alix --- (-1167).
"m secondly (1168) GUY [I] Comte de Nevers Comte d'Auxerre et Comte de Tonnerre, son of GUILLAUME [IV] Comte de Nevers et d'Auxerre & his wife Ida von Sponheim [Carinthia] ([1149]-Tonnerre, Yonne 18 Oct 1175). He refused to do homage to Hugues III Duke of Burgundy, was defeated and imprisoned at Beaune in April 1174[310].
"m thirdly (1176) PIERRE de Flandre, son of THIERRY I Count of Flanders & his second wife Sibylle d'Anjou (-1176 before Aug).
"m fourthly ([1177/80], annulled on grounds of consanguinity 1181) as his first wife, ROBERT [II] de Dreux, son of ROBERT de France Comte de Dreux & his wife Agnès de Baudemont (-28 Dec 1218). He succeeded his father in 1188 as Comte de Dreux, de Braine et de Longueville."
Med Lands cites:
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H-er 1st husband (per Genealogy.EU Capet 9 page.)5,4,7 Matilda/Mahaut (?) de Bourgogne, Dame de Montpensier, Comtesse de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux married Gui I de Nevers Comte de Nevers et de Tonnerre, son of Guillaume III de Nevers Comte de Nevers, d'Auxerre et de Tonnerre and Ida von Kärnten, in 1168
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Her 2nd husband.8,7 Matilda/Mahaut (?) de Bourgogne, Dame de Montpensier, Comtesse de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux married Guy I (Pierre) (?) Cte de Nevers, son of Thierry III d'Alsace (?) comte de Flandres and Sibilla/Sibyl/Sibylle (?) d'Anjou, Countess of Flanders, circa 1175
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Her 3rd husband (per Genealogy.EU Capet 9 page); Racines et Histoire says m 1176.5,9,3,10,4,7 Matilda/Mahaut (?) de Bourgogne, Dame de Montpensier, Comtesse de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux married Robert II le Jeune de Dreux comte de Dreux et de Braine, seigneur de Torcy, de Brie-Comte-Robert, de Chilly, de Longjumeau, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy, son of Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle and Agnès de Baudément dame de Baudement, de Braine-sur-Vesle, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy, circa 1178
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Her 4th husband (per Genealogy.EU Capet 9 page); his 1st wife.1,11,3,4,7,12,13 Matilda/Mahaut (?) de Bourgogne, Dame de Montpensier, Comtesse de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux and Robert II le Jeune de Dreux comte de Dreux et de Braine, seigneur de Torcy, de Brie-Comte-Robert, de Chilly, de Longjumeau, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy were divorced in 1181.1,11,4,13
Matilda/Mahaut (?) de Bourgogne, Dame de Montpensier, Comtesse de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux died on 17 December 1192 at Fontevraud-l'Abbaye, Departement de Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France.1,2,4
Matilda/Mahaut (?) de Bourgogne, Dame de Montpensier, Comtesse de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux was buried after 17 December 1192 at Fontevraud-l'Abbaye, Departement de Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1150
DEATH 17 Dec 1192 (aged 41–42)
Nobility, daughter of Raimond de Bourgogne, Comte de Grignon and his wife Agnes de Thiers, dame de Montpensier. As she was her parents only surviving child, (her brother Hugues died aged nine) she inherited their titles after their death. She was married four times: first to Eudes II Seigneur d'Issoudun who died two years after the marriage, second Guy I, Count of Nevers and Tonnerre with whom she was married 8 years. When he refused to do homage to her cousin Hugues III he was imprisoned and died a year later. She inherited the county of Tonnerre from him. Her third husband was Pierre of Flanders. She married her last husband Robert II Count of Dreux around 1178 but the marriage was annulled due to consanguinity. After that she retired to Fontevraud and became a nun.
Family Members
Parents
Raymond de Bourgogne 1125–1156
Siblings
Hugues de Bourgogne
BURIAL Fontevraud Abbey, Fontevraud-l'Abbaye, Departement de Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France
Created by: Lutetia
Added: 3 Nov 2009
Find A Grave Memorial 43880180.5,14
; Per Med Lands:
"ROBERT [II] de Dreux, son of ROBERT [I] "le Grand" Seigneur de Dreux & his second wife Agnès de Baudemont dame de Braine ([1153]-28 Dec 1218, bur Braine, église abbatiale de Saint-Ived). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "duos episcopos et comitem Robertum II de Brana et sorores duas eorum" as children of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" & his second wife[66]. "Robertus…comes Drocarum et Brane et…et uxor mea Agnes comitissa Brane" donated revenue from property "apud Qualliacum" to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, with the consent of "Roberti filii nostri", by charter dated 1178[67]. "Robertus comes frater…regis Francorum Ludovici et…uxor mea Agnes comitissa Brenensis et filii nostri Robertus dominus Drocarum, Willelmus et Iohannes" donated property to Sainte Geneviève by charter dated 1184[68]. "R comes dominus Droc et Bran" donated property to Notre-Dame de la Trappe naming "R pater meus comes…frater Ludovici…regis Francie" by charter dated Jul 1212[69]. Seigneur de Nesles 1170. Having married the widow of the Comte de Nevers, he administered the counties of Nevers, Auxerre and Tonnerre during the minority of his stepson Comte Guillaume V. He succeeded his father 1184 as Comte de Dreux, and in 1188 as Comte de Braine. "Robertus comes, dominus Drocarum" donated property "in…Rupis Fortis" to Notre-Dame des Vaux de Cernay, with the consent of "uxoris mee Yolendis", by charter dated to [1184/1200][70]. “Robertus comes, dominus Drocarum et Braye, et Yolendis comitissa uxor mea” donated property to Notre-Dame, Paris, with the consent of “Roberti filii nostri”, by charter dated 1208[71]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1218 of "comes Robertus" in the same week as the marriage of his daughter Philippa[72]. The Chronicon Fiscannensis Cœnobii records the death in 1218 of "Robertus Comes Drocensis et Branæ, filius Agnetis Comitissæ"[73].
"m firstly (1177, separated for consanguinity 1181) as her fourth husband, MATHILDE de Bourgogne Ctss de Grignon, widow firstly of EUDES [II] Seigneur d'Issoudun, secondly of GUY [I] Comte de Nevers Comte d'Auxerre et Comte de Tonnerre, and thirdly of PIERRE de Flandre, daughter of RAIMOND de Bourgogne [Capet] Comte de Grignon & his wife Agnès de Thiers dame de Montpensier (1150-Fontevrault 1192, bur there). The Chronologia Roberti Altissiodorenses records that, after the death of "Guido comes", his wife "Mathildis" married "Petro Flandrensis" and after his death "Roberto", stating that they were separated for consanguinity soon after their marriage[74].
"m secondly (1184) YOLANDE de Coucy, daughter of RAOUL [I] de Coucy Seigneur de Coucy & his first wife Agnès de Hainaut ([1164]-Braine, Aisne 18 Mar 1222, bur Braine, église abbatiale de Saint-Ived). The Chronicon Hanoniense names (in order) "Iolandem…Agnetis…tercia…Ada" as the three daughters of "Radulphus de Cocy" & his wife, specifying that Yolande married "Roberto comiti de Drecis et de Braina, filioque Roberti comitis fratris Ludovici regis Francorum"[75]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the two daughters of "Rodulfo de Marla" & his wife Agnes as "mater…comitis de Grandiprato, altera Hyolenz [uxor] comiti de Brana Roberto"[76]. "Robertus comes, dominus Drocarum" donated property "in…Rupis Fortis" to Notre-Dame des Vaux de Cernay, with the consent of "uxoris mee Yolendis", by charter dated to [1184/1200][77]. “Robertus comes, dominus Drocarum et Braye, et Yolendis comitissa uxor mea” donated property to Notre-Dame, Paris, with the consent of “Roberti filii nostri”, by charter dated 1208[78]. "R comes dominus Droc et Bran" donated property to Notre-Dame de la Trappe with the consent of "Agnetis uxoris eius [R patris meis]…comitisse matris mee…et Yolande comitisse uxore mee et liberorum meorum" by charter dated Jul 1212[79]. The necrology of Reims [Saint-Rémi] records the death "XV Kal Apr" of "Ioles Brane comitissa"[80]."
Med Lands cites:
[66] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846.
[67] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 13, p. 6.
[68] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 238, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de S. Genevieve de Paris.
[69] Notre-Dame de la Trappe II, p. 2.
[70] Notre-Dame des Vaux de Cernay, Tome I, LXXII, p. 88.
[71] Paris Notre-Dame, Tome I, XVII, p. 299.
[72] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219, MGH SS XXIII, p. 909.
[73] Ex Chronico Fiscannensis Cœnobii, RHGF, Tome XVIII, p. 350.
[74] Chronologia Roberti Altissiodorensis, RHGF, Tome XVIII, p. 249.
[75] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 509.
[76] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852.
[77] Notre-Dame des Vaux de Cernay, Tome I, LXXII, p. 88.
[78] Paris Notre-Dame, Tome I, XVII, p. 299.
[79] Notre-Dame de la Trappe Tome II, p. 2.
[80] 'Obits mémorables tirés de nécrologes luxembourgeois, rémois et messins', Revue Mabillon VI (1910-1911), p. 274.15
EDV-26. [67] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 13, p. 6.
[68] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 238, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de S. Genevieve de Paris.
[69] Notre-Dame de la Trappe II, p. 2.
[70] Notre-Dame des Vaux de Cernay, Tome I, LXXII, p. 88.
[71] Paris Notre-Dame, Tome I, XVII, p. 299.
[72] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219, MGH SS XXIII, p. 909.
[73] Ex Chronico Fiscannensis Cœnobii, RHGF, Tome XVIII, p. 350.
[74] Chronologia Roberti Altissiodorensis, RHGF, Tome XVIII, p. 249.
[75] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 509.
[76] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852.
[77] Notre-Dame des Vaux de Cernay, Tome I, LXXII, p. 88.
[78] Paris Notre-Dame, Tome I, XVII, p. 299.
[79] Notre-Dame de la Trappe Tome II, p. 2.
[80] 'Obits mémorables tirés de nécrologes luxembourgeois, rémois et messins', Revue Mabillon VI (1910-1911), p. 274.15
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: vol II page 24.
2. Encyclopedie Genealogique des Maisons Souveraines du Monde Paris, VIII 1963,IX 1964,XII 1966., Docteur Gaston Sirjean, Reference: page 244.16
2. Encyclopedie Genealogique des Maisons Souveraines du Monde Paris, VIII 1963,IX 1964,XII 1966., Docteur Gaston Sirjean, Reference: page 244.16
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Matilda, Dame de Montpensier, *1150, +Fontevrault 1192, bur there; 1m: before 15.4.1165 Eudes III d'Issoudun (+1167); 2m: ca 1168 Guy I, Cte de Nevers et de Tonnerre (+1175); 3m: 1175/76 Pierre of Flanders, Cte de Nevers (+1176); 4m: 1178 (div 1181) Cte Robert II de Dreux (+1218.)1"
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE de Bourgogne (1150-17 Dec [1219], bur Abbaye de Fontevraud). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Remundus" as father of "Mathildis comitisse Nivernensis"[302]. She succeeded her father as Ctss de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux, and her mother as Dame de Montpensier. She succeeded her second husband in 1175 as Ctss de Tonnerre. Robert of Torigny records the marriage in 1177 of "Petrus frater Philippi comitis Flandrensium" and "comitissa Nivernensis quæ fuerat uxor domini Isoldunensis castri"[303]. The Chronologia Roberti Altissiodorenses records that, after the death of "Guido comes", his wife "Mathildis" married "Petro Flandrensis" and after his death "Roberto", stating that they were separated for consanguinity soon after their marriage[304]. "Matilidis comitissa" confirmed a previous donation to Cîteaux by "Agnes mater mea comitissa" for the soul of "patris mei Raimundi" with the consent of "filii mei Odo et Guillermus et Agnes et Ida" by charter dated 1179[305]. "Mathildis comitissa Nivernensis" donated property to Jully-les-Nonnains for the soul of "Guillelmi filii mei" and for the anniversaries of "…comitis Guidonis, comitis Petri, domini Odonis de Yxolduno" (her first three husbands) by charter dated 1182[306]. "Matildis comitissa" donated property to Cîteaux for the souls of "Guidonis comitis Nivernensis, Petri Flandrensis et Odonis" with the consent of "filie mee Agnes…filia comitis Guidonis et Sibilla filia comitis Petri flandrensis" by charter dated 1182[307]. After the annulment of her fourth marriage, she became a nun at Fontevraud. "Hugo…dux Burgundiæ et Albonii comes" confirmed "[cum] assensu filiorum meorum Oddonis et Alexandri" the concession to Cluny by "consanguineæ meæ Matildi comitissæ Tornodori" by charter dated 1186[308]. “Odo dominus Exolduni”, on leaving for Jerusalem, confirmed the privileges of “burgensibus Exoldunensis castri” by charter dated 1190, witnessed by “domina M. comitissa Tornodori…”[309].
"m firstly (before 15 Apr 1165) EUDES [II] Seigneur d'Issoudun, son of RAOUL [II] Seigneur d'Issoudun & his wife Alix --- (-1167).
"m secondly (1168) GUY [I] Comte de Nevers Comte d'Auxerre et Comte de Tonnerre, son of GUILLAUME [IV] Comte de Nevers et d'Auxerre & his wife Ida von Sponheim [Carinthia] ([1149]-Tonnerre, Yonne 18 Oct 1175). He refused to do homage to Hugues III Duke of Burgundy, was defeated and imprisoned at Beaune in April 1174[310].
"m thirdly (1176) PIERRE de Flandre, son of THIERRY I Count of Flanders & his second wife Sibylle d'Anjou (-1176 before Aug).
"m fourthly ([1177/80], annulled on grounds of consanguinity 1181) as his first wife, ROBERT [II] de Dreux, son of ROBERT de France Comte de Dreux & his wife Agnès de Baudemont (-28 Dec 1218). He succeeded his father in 1188 as Comte de Dreux, de Braine et de Longueville."
Med Lands cites:
[301] Cîteaux 248, p. 196.
[302] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1161, MGH SS XXIII, p. 845.
[303] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, p. 64.
[304] Chronologia Roberti Altissiodorensis, RHGF XVIII, p. 249.
[305] Cîteaux 237, p. 187.
[306] Jully-les-Nonnains, 1182, p. 25.
[307] Cîteaux 248, p. 196.
[308] Cluny, Tome V, 4309, p. 669.
[309] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes I, 380, p. 164.
[310] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 565.7
[302] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1161, MGH SS XXIII, p. 845.
[303] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, p. 64.
[304] Chronologia Roberti Altissiodorensis, RHGF XVIII, p. 249.
[305] Cîteaux 237, p. 187.
[306] Jully-les-Nonnains, 1182, p. 25.
[307] Cîteaux 248, p. 196.
[308] Cluny, Tome V, 4309, p. 669.
[309] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes I, 380, p. 164.
[310] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 565.7
Family 1 | Eudes III d'Issoudon d. 1167 |
Family 2 | Gui I de Nevers Comte de Nevers et de Tonnerre b. 1149, d. 18 Oct 1175 |
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Family 3 | Guy I (Pierre) (?) Cte de Nevers b. 1140, d. Aug 1176 |
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Citations
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- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gui I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00023297&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy I (Peter): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026308&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 11 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine11.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013796&tree=LEO
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_II,_Count_of_Dreux. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 22 November 2019), memorial page for Mahaut de Bourgogne (1150–17 Dec 1192), Find A Grave Memorial no. 43880180, citing Fontevraud Abbey, Fontevraud-l'Abbaye, Departement de Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France ; Maintained by Lutetia (contributor 46580078), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/43880180/mahaut-de_bourgogne. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#RobertIIDreuxdied1218B
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mahaud de Bourgogne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013797&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume V: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00122072&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 7 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet7.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnès de Nevers: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013801&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdnevers.htm#Agnesdied1193
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sibylle of Flanders: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026309&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 11 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine11.html
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, Chapter 4. WAVRIN http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLEMISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc111525106
Manfredo (?) Marchese di Savona1
M, #56182, d. 1079
Father | Tetone/Oddone (?) Margrave de Vasto1,2 d. 1084 |
Mother | Berta de Susa1,2 |
Last Edited | 22 Apr 2020 |
Manfredo (?) Marchese di Savona died in 1079.2
; Per Med Lands:
"MANFREDO (-1079). "Berta comitissa filia quondam Maginfredi et item Maginfredus et Anselmus, Bonifacius, Oto clericus germani et filii quondam Toto itemque marchionis, mater et filii" donated property to the monastery of San Silo near Genoa by charter dated 31 Aug 1064[406]. "Berta comitissa et Manfredus, Bonifacius et Anselmus marchiones et Henricus et Oto germani, mater et filii" donated property to the church of Santa Maria "de episcopatu Astensi" by charter dated 22 Apr 1065[407]. m ---. The name of Manfredo´s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:621.1
; Per Med Lands:
"MANFREDO (-1079). "Berta comitissa filia quondam Maginfredi et item Maginfredus et Anselmus, Bonifacius, Oto clericus germani et filii quondam Toto itemque marchionis, mater et filii" donated property to the monastery of San Silo near Genoa by charter dated 31 Aug 1064[406]. "Berta comitissa et Manfredus, Bonifacius et Anselmus marchiones et Henricus et Oto germani, mater et filii" donated property to the church of Santa Maria "de episcopatu Astensi" by charter dated 22 Apr 1065[407]. m ---. The name of Manfredo´s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
[406] Regesta comitum Sabaudiæ, CLXIV, p. 59.
[407] Regesta comitum Sabaudiæ, CLXV, p. 59.2
[407] Regesta comitum Sabaudiæ, CLXV, p. 59.2
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:621.1
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Manfredo: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00305433&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MONFERRATO,%20SALUZZO,%20SAVONA.htm#AdelaidaVastodied1118. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NEAPOLITAN%20NOBILITY.htm#EnricoVastodied1137
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MONFERRATO,%20SALUZZO,%20SAVONA.htm#dauManfredoVastoSavonaMJordanSicily.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MONFERRATO,%20SALUZZO,%20SAVONA.htm#dauManfredoVastoSavonaMGodefredoSicily.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Hauteville, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Hauteville.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
Gui I de Nevers Comte de Nevers et de Tonnerre1
M, #56183, b. 1149, d. 18 October 1175
Father | Guillaume III de Nevers Comte de Nevers, d'Auxerre et de Tonnerre2,3,4 b. c 1107, d. 21 Nov 1161 |
Mother | Ida von Kärnten5,6,1,3,4,7,8 b. c 1130, d. 25 May 1178 |
Reference | EDV27 |
Last Edited | 8 Nov 2020 |
Gui I de Nevers Comte de Nevers et de Tonnerre was born in 1149.1,9 He married Matilda/Mahaut (?) de Bourgogne, Dame de Montpensier, Comtesse de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux, daughter of Raimond (?) Comte de Grignon, seigneur de Montpensier and Agnes de Thiern Dame de Montpensier-en-Auvergne, in 1168
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Her 2nd husband.1,10
Gui I de Nevers Comte de Nevers et de Tonnerre died on 18 October 1175 at Tonnerre, Departement de l'Yonne, Bourgogne, France (now).1,9
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE de Bourgogne (1150-17 Dec [1219], bur Abbaye de Fontevraud). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Remundus" as father of "Mathildis comitisse Nivernensis"[302]. She succeeded her father as Ctss de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux, and her mother as Dame de Montpensier. She succeeded her second husband in 1175 as Ctss de Tonnerre. Robert of Torigny records the marriage in 1177 of "Petrus frater Philippi comitis Flandrensium" and "comitissa Nivernensis quæ fuerat uxor domini Isoldunensis castri"[303]. The Chronologia Roberti Altissiodorenses records that, after the death of "Guido comes", his wife "Mathildis" married "Petro Flandrensis" and after his death "Roberto", stating that they were separated for consanguinity soon after their marriage[304]. "Matilidis comitissa" confirmed a previous donation to Cîteaux by "Agnes mater mea comitissa" for the soul of "patris mei Raimundi" with the consent of "filii mei Odo et Guillermus et Agnes et Ida" by charter dated 1179[305]. "Mathildis comitissa Nivernensis" donated property to Jully-les-Nonnains for the soul of "Guillelmi filii mei" and for the anniversaries of "…comitis Guidonis, comitis Petri, domini Odonis de Yxolduno" (her first three husbands) by charter dated 1182[306]. "Matildis comitissa" donated property to Cîteaux for the souls of "Guidonis comitis Nivernensis, Petri Flandrensis et Odonis" with the consent of "filie mee Agnes…filia comitis Guidonis et Sibilla filia comitis Petri flandrensis" by charter dated 1182[307]. After the annulment of her fourth marriage, she became a nun at Fontevraud. "Hugo…dux Burgundiæ et Albonii comes" confirmed "[cum] assensu filiorum meorum Oddonis et Alexandri" the concession to Cluny by "consanguineæ meæ Matildi comitissæ Tornodori" by charter dated 1186[308]. “Odo dominus Exolduni”, on leaving for Jerusalem, confirmed the privileges of “burgensibus Exoldunensis castri” by charter dated 1190, witnessed by “domina M. comitissa Tornodori…”[309].
"m firstly (before 15 Apr 1165) EUDES [II] Seigneur d'Issoudun, son of RAOUL [II] Seigneur d'Issoudun & his wife Alix --- (-1167).
"m secondly (1168) GUY [I] Comte de Nevers Comte d'Auxerre et Comte de Tonnerre, son of GUILLAUME [IV] Comte de Nevers et d'Auxerre & his wife Ida von Sponheim [Carinthia] ([1149]-Tonnerre, Yonne 18 Oct 1175). He refused to do homage to Hugues III Duke of Burgundy, was defeated and imprisoned at Beaune in April 1174[310].
"m thirdly (1176) PIERRE de Flandre, son of THIERRY I Count of Flanders & his second wife Sibylle d'Anjou (-1176 before Aug).
"m fourthly ([1177/80], annulled on grounds of consanguinity 1181) as his first wife, ROBERT [II] de Dreux, son of ROBERT de France Comte de Dreux & his wife Agnès de Baudemont (-28 Dec 1218). He succeeded his father in 1188 as Comte de Dreux, de Braine et de Longueville."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands: "GUY [I] de Nevers ([1149]-Tonnerre, Yonne 19 Oct 1175). "W Nivernensium comes" granted taxation rights to the church of Autun with the consent of "Ida cometissa et filius meus Guido…[et] Guillelmus filius meus" by charter dated 1158[180]. "Willelmus comes Nivernis filius Willelmi comitis qui obit Autissiodori" granted concessions to Nevers Saint-Etienne, reserving to himself a certain sum either for the marriage of his daughter ("pro filia sua maritanda"), for his journey to Jerusalem ("pro via Hyerosolimitana"), or if he was ransomed, with the consent of "Wido frater eius", by charter dated 1164, confirmed by "Vuido comes Nivernensis" with the consent of "Raynaldus frater meus et uxor mea" by charter dated 1171[181]. The Chronicon of Robert canon of St Maria, Auxerre names "Guillelmus Nivernensis comes…Guido frater eius" when recording that he succeeded his brother[182]. He left for Palestine with his brother, returning in [1170][183] when he succeeded as Comte de Nevers, Comte d'Auxerre, Comte de Tonnerre. "Wido comes Nivernensis" donated property to the abbey of Molesme with the consent of "Ida mater mea et uxor mea Medaldis et Reinaldus frater meus" by charter dated [24 Oct] 1170 which specifies that "Willelmus frater meus" died at Jerusalem[184]. "Wido comes Nivernis" confirmed the privileges of the church of St Etienne in Nevers by charter dated 1171 which names "proavus meus Willelmus comes Nivernensis…[et] frater meus Willelmus qui ultra mare obit et requiescit in Bethleem"[185]. He refused to do homage to Hugues III Duke of Burgundy and was defeated and imprisoned at Beaune in Apr 1174. The Annales Nivernenses record the death in 1149 of "Guillelmus comes pater, monachus Chartusiæ"[186]. Robert of Torigny records the death in 1175 of "comes Nivernensis"[187]. The necrology of the Cathedral of Nevers records the death "XIV Kal Nov" of "Guido comes"[188]. m (1168) as her second husband, MATHILDE de Bourgogne, widow of EUDES [II] Seigneur d'Issoudun, daughter of RAIMOND de Bourgogne Comte de Grignon, Seigneur de Vitteaux & his wife Agnès de Thiern Dame de Montpensier (1150-17 Dec [1219], bur Abbaye de Fontevraud). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Remundus" as father of "Mathildis comitisse Nivernensis"[189]. She is named without her husband in 1169 (recording the death of her brother-in-law) and with him from 1170. "Matildis uxor mea" consented to the donation to Jully-les-Nonnains by "Guido comes Nivenensis" by charter dated 1170[190]. "Guido comes Nivernensis" donated property to the abbey of Corbigny by charter dated [1171] in which he names "frater meus Willelmus", witnessed by "Ida mater mea" and with the consent of "Mathildis uxor mea"[191]. She succeeded her father as Ctss de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux. She succeeded her mother as Dame de Montpensier. She succeeded her second husband in 1175 as Ctss de Tonnerre. She married thirdly (1176) Pierre de Flandre. "Matilidis comitissa" confirmed a previous donation to Cîteaux by "Agnes mater mea comitissa" for the soul of "patris mei Raimundi" with the consent of "filii mei Odo et Guillermus et Agnes et Ida" by charter dated 1179[192]. She married fourthly ([1177/80], annulled on grounds of consanguinity 1181) as his first wife, Robert [II] de Dreux. After the annulment of her fourth marriage, she became a nun at Fontevraud."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites:
;
Her 2nd husband.1,10
Gui I de Nevers Comte de Nevers et de Tonnerre died on 18 October 1175 at Tonnerre, Departement de l'Yonne, Bourgogne, France (now).1,9
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE de Bourgogne (1150-17 Dec [1219], bur Abbaye de Fontevraud). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Remundus" as father of "Mathildis comitisse Nivernensis"[302]. She succeeded her father as Ctss de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux, and her mother as Dame de Montpensier. She succeeded her second husband in 1175 as Ctss de Tonnerre. Robert of Torigny records the marriage in 1177 of "Petrus frater Philippi comitis Flandrensium" and "comitissa Nivernensis quæ fuerat uxor domini Isoldunensis castri"[303]. The Chronologia Roberti Altissiodorenses records that, after the death of "Guido comes", his wife "Mathildis" married "Petro Flandrensis" and after his death "Roberto", stating that they were separated for consanguinity soon after their marriage[304]. "Matilidis comitissa" confirmed a previous donation to Cîteaux by "Agnes mater mea comitissa" for the soul of "patris mei Raimundi" with the consent of "filii mei Odo et Guillermus et Agnes et Ida" by charter dated 1179[305]. "Mathildis comitissa Nivernensis" donated property to Jully-les-Nonnains for the soul of "Guillelmi filii mei" and for the anniversaries of "…comitis Guidonis, comitis Petri, domini Odonis de Yxolduno" (her first three husbands) by charter dated 1182[306]. "Matildis comitissa" donated property to Cîteaux for the souls of "Guidonis comitis Nivernensis, Petri Flandrensis et Odonis" with the consent of "filie mee Agnes…filia comitis Guidonis et Sibilla filia comitis Petri flandrensis" by charter dated 1182[307]. After the annulment of her fourth marriage, she became a nun at Fontevraud. "Hugo…dux Burgundiæ et Albonii comes" confirmed "[cum] assensu filiorum meorum Oddonis et Alexandri" the concession to Cluny by "consanguineæ meæ Matildi comitissæ Tornodori" by charter dated 1186[308]. “Odo dominus Exolduni”, on leaving for Jerusalem, confirmed the privileges of “burgensibus Exoldunensis castri” by charter dated 1190, witnessed by “domina M. comitissa Tornodori…”[309].
"m firstly (before 15 Apr 1165) EUDES [II] Seigneur d'Issoudun, son of RAOUL [II] Seigneur d'Issoudun & his wife Alix --- (-1167).
"m secondly (1168) GUY [I] Comte de Nevers Comte d'Auxerre et Comte de Tonnerre, son of GUILLAUME [IV] Comte de Nevers et d'Auxerre & his wife Ida von Sponheim [Carinthia] ([1149]-Tonnerre, Yonne 18 Oct 1175). He refused to do homage to Hugues III Duke of Burgundy, was defeated and imprisoned at Beaune in April 1174[310].
"m thirdly (1176) PIERRE de Flandre, son of THIERRY I Count of Flanders & his second wife Sibylle d'Anjou (-1176 before Aug).
"m fourthly ([1177/80], annulled on grounds of consanguinity 1181) as his first wife, ROBERT [II] de Dreux, son of ROBERT de France Comte de Dreux & his wife Agnès de Baudemont (-28 Dec 1218). He succeeded his father in 1188 as Comte de Dreux, de Braine et de Longueville."
Med Lands cites:
[301] Cîteaux 248, p. 196.
[302] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1161, MGH SS XXIII, p. 845.
[303] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, p. 64.
[304] Chronologia Roberti Altissiodorensis, RHGF XVIII, p. 249.
[305] Cîteaux 237, p. 187.
[306] Jully-les-Nonnains, 1182, p. 25.
[307] Cîteaux 248, p. 196.
[308] Cluny, Tome V, 4309, p. 669.
[309] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes I, 380, p. 164.
[310] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 565.10
EDV-27. [302] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1161, MGH SS XXIII, p. 845.
[303] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, p. 64.
[304] Chronologia Roberti Altissiodorensis, RHGF XVIII, p. 249.
[305] Cîteaux 237, p. 187.
[306] Jully-les-Nonnains, 1182, p. 25.
[307] Cîteaux 248, p. 196.
[308] Cluny, Tome V, 4309, p. 669.
[309] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes I, 380, p. 164.
[310] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 565.10
; Per Med Lands: "GUY [I] de Nevers ([1149]-Tonnerre, Yonne 19 Oct 1175). "W Nivernensium comes" granted taxation rights to the church of Autun with the consent of "Ida cometissa et filius meus Guido…[et] Guillelmus filius meus" by charter dated 1158[180]. "Willelmus comes Nivernis filius Willelmi comitis qui obit Autissiodori" granted concessions to Nevers Saint-Etienne, reserving to himself a certain sum either for the marriage of his daughter ("pro filia sua maritanda"), for his journey to Jerusalem ("pro via Hyerosolimitana"), or if he was ransomed, with the consent of "Wido frater eius", by charter dated 1164, confirmed by "Vuido comes Nivernensis" with the consent of "Raynaldus frater meus et uxor mea" by charter dated 1171[181]. The Chronicon of Robert canon of St Maria, Auxerre names "Guillelmus Nivernensis comes…Guido frater eius" when recording that he succeeded his brother[182]. He left for Palestine with his brother, returning in [1170][183] when he succeeded as Comte de Nevers, Comte d'Auxerre, Comte de Tonnerre. "Wido comes Nivernensis" donated property to the abbey of Molesme with the consent of "Ida mater mea et uxor mea Medaldis et Reinaldus frater meus" by charter dated [24 Oct] 1170 which specifies that "Willelmus frater meus" died at Jerusalem[184]. "Wido comes Nivernis" confirmed the privileges of the church of St Etienne in Nevers by charter dated 1171 which names "proavus meus Willelmus comes Nivernensis…[et] frater meus Willelmus qui ultra mare obit et requiescit in Bethleem"[185]. He refused to do homage to Hugues III Duke of Burgundy and was defeated and imprisoned at Beaune in Apr 1174. The Annales Nivernenses record the death in 1149 of "Guillelmus comes pater, monachus Chartusiæ"[186]. Robert of Torigny records the death in 1175 of "comes Nivernensis"[187]. The necrology of the Cathedral of Nevers records the death "XIV Kal Nov" of "Guido comes"[188]. m (1168) as her second husband, MATHILDE de Bourgogne, widow of EUDES [II] Seigneur d'Issoudun, daughter of RAIMOND de Bourgogne Comte de Grignon, Seigneur de Vitteaux & his wife Agnès de Thiern Dame de Montpensier (1150-17 Dec [1219], bur Abbaye de Fontevraud). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Remundus" as father of "Mathildis comitisse Nivernensis"[189]. She is named without her husband in 1169 (recording the death of her brother-in-law) and with him from 1170. "Matildis uxor mea" consented to the donation to Jully-les-Nonnains by "Guido comes Nivenensis" by charter dated 1170[190]. "Guido comes Nivernensis" donated property to the abbey of Corbigny by charter dated [1171] in which he names "frater meus Willelmus", witnessed by "Ida mater mea" and with the consent of "Mathildis uxor mea"[191]. She succeeded her father as Ctss de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux. She succeeded her mother as Dame de Montpensier. She succeeded her second husband in 1175 as Ctss de Tonnerre. She married thirdly (1176) Pierre de Flandre. "Matilidis comitissa" confirmed a previous donation to Cîteaux by "Agnes mater mea comitissa" for the soul of "patris mei Raimundi" with the consent of "filii mei Odo et Guillermus et Agnes et Ida" by charter dated 1179[192]. She married fourthly ([1177/80], annulled on grounds of consanguinity 1181) as his first wife, Robert [II] de Dreux. After the annulment of her fourth marriage, she became a nun at Fontevraud."
Med Lands cites:
[180] Autun (Charmasse), Vol. II, 11, p. 96.
[181] Nevers Saint-Etienne, IX and XII, pp. 86 and 89.
[182] Roberti Canonici S Mariani Autissiodorensis Chronicon 1168, MGH SS XXVI, p. 239.
[183] Bouchard (1987), p. 348.
[184] Molesme II, 270, p. 250.
[185] Cluny, Tome V, 4239, p. 592.
[186] Annales Nivernenses 1149, MGH SS XIII, p. 91.
[187] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, p. 59.
[188] Nécrologe de la Cathédrale de Nevers, Never Saint-Cyr, p. 216.
[189] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1161, MGH SS XXIII, p. 845.
[190] Jully-les-Nonnains 1170, p. 20.
[191] Corbigny 8, p. 13.
[192] Cîteaux 237, p. 187.9
[181] Nevers Saint-Etienne, IX and XII, pp. 86 and 89.
[182] Roberti Canonici S Mariani Autissiodorensis Chronicon 1168, MGH SS XXVI, p. 239.
[183] Bouchard (1987), p. 348.
[184] Molesme II, 270, p. 250.
[185] Cluny, Tome V, 4239, p. 592.
[186] Annales Nivernenses 1149, MGH SS XIII, p. 91.
[187] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, p. 59.
[188] Nécrologe de la Cathédrale de Nevers, Never Saint-Cyr, p. 216.
[189] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1161, MGH SS XXIII, p. 845.
[190] Jully-les-Nonnains 1170, p. 20.
[191] Corbigny 8, p. 13.
[192] Cîteaux 237, p. 187.9
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Encyclopedie Genealogique des Maisons Souveraines du Monde Paris, VIII 1963,IX 1964,XII 1966., Docteur Gaston Sirjean, Reference: 13.
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 204.
3. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 717.11
He was Comte de Nevers, Comte d'Auxerre, Comte de Tonnerre between 1170 and 1175.92. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 204.
3. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 717.11
Family | Matilda/Mahaut (?) de Bourgogne, Dame de Montpensier, Comtesse de Grignon, Dame de Vitteaux b. 1150, d. 17 Dec 1192 |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gui I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00023297&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume III: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00122073&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdnevers.htm#GuillaumeIIIdied1161B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’Auxerre, Nevers & Tonnerre, p. 9: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Auxerre-Nevers-Tonnerre.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida von Kärnten: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00122074&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00122073&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida von Kärnten: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00122074&tree=LEO
- [S4743] Geneagraphie - Families all over the world (Website), online <http://geneagraphie.com/>, Ide de Carinthie: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I377964&tree=1. Hereinafter cited as Geneagraphie.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdnevers.htm#GuyINeversdied1175
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDY.htm
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gui I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00023297&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume V: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00122072&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 9 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet9.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnès de Nevers: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013801&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdnevers.htm#Agnesdied1193
Nicole (?)1
F, #56184, d. 1232
Last Edited | 23 Nov 2019 |
Nicole (?) married Pierre I Mauclerc de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond, son of Robert II le Jeune de Dreux comte de Dreux et de Braine, seigneur de Torcy, de Brie-Comte-Robert, de Chilly, de Longjumeau, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy and Yolande de Coucy, circa 1230
;
His 2nd wife.1
Nicole (?) died in 1232.1
; Per Med Lands:
"PIERRE de Dreux, son of ROBERT [II] Comte de Dreux et de Braine & his second wife Yolande de Coucy ([1187]-at sea off Damietta end-May 1250, bur Braine, église abbatiale de Saint-Ived). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Henricum archiepiscopum Remensem et tres comites, Robertum de Brana, Petrum de Britannia, Iohannem Masticonesem et eorum sorores numero septem" as children of "comiti de Brana Roberto" and his wife Yolande[343]. He swore allegiance at Paris 27 Jan 1213 to Philippe II "Auguste" King of France as PIERRE I "Mauclerc" Duke of Brittany. Comte de Penthièvre by annexation 1214. He was created Earl of Richmond by Henry III King of England 16 Jan 1219 (confiscated Nov 1224, restored Oct 1229, confiscated again Jan 1235). “Johannes comes Matisconensis” names “frater meus P. comes Britannie” in a charter dated Aug 1234[344]. He surrendered the duchy of Brittany to his son in 1237, after which he is sometimes referred to as PIERRE de Braine. William of Tyre (Continuator) names "Pierre de Drues cuens de Bretaigne" among those who took part in the crusade from France which landed at Acre in 1239[345]. He accompanied King Louis IX on crusade in 1249 and was captured at Faraskur 6 Apr 1250, after being wounded at the battle of Mansurah. He died at sea on his return to western Europe.
"m firstly ([Mar 1213/Oct 1214]) ALIX de Thouars Dss of Brittany, daughter of GUY de Thouars & his second wife Constance Dss of Brittany ([1200]-21 Oct 1221, bur 24 Nov 1225 Villeneuve-les-Nantes, Abbaye de Notre-Dame). The Genealogia Comitum Richemundiæ names "Adelicia" as the daughter of "Constantia filia Conani" and her third husband "Guidoni de Thoarcio", stating that she married "domno Petro Mauclerc"[346]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "unam filiam Mabiliam" as the child of "Constantiam comitis Conani filia" and her [third] husband "Guido frater vicecomitem de Tuart"[347]. The Chronique de Guillaume de Nangis records that daughter of Guy de Thouars and Constance de Bretagne married "Pierre Mauclerc, fils de Robert comte de Dreux"[348]. A Chronicon Comitum Pictaviæ et Aquitaniæ Ducum names "Alipsam et Catherinam" as the two daughters of "Wido…comes de Thoarcio" and "Constantiam Gaufridi Ducis Britanniæ relictam", stating that Alix married "Petro Comiti Drocarum"[349]. The Chronicon Britannicum records the death "XII Kal Nov" in 1221 of "Aalis Ducissa Britanniæ"[350].
"Betrothed (before 21 Jul 1229) to [MARIE] de Lusignan, daughter of HUGUES I King of Cyprus & his wife Alix of Jerusalem Ctss of Jaffa ([before 1215]-[1251/53]). A Papal prohibition on the marriage between "comes Britannie" and "filiam reginam Cypri", by reason of 4o consanguinity, is dated at Pérouse 21 Jul 1229[351]. It is not known which daughter was betrothed to the Duke of Brittany, but it is a reasonable assumption that it was Marie who was the older of the queen’s two daughters.
"m secondly ([1230]) NICOLE, daughter of --- (-Feb 1232, bur Villeneuve-les-Nantes, Abbaye de Notre-Dame). Her marriage is confirmed by an epitaph at Villeneuve which records the burial of "Nicolle, la mère monsour Olivier de Machecou"[352], read together with the charter dated 10 Mar 1258 under which "Jehan duc de Bretaigne conte de Richemont" confirmed an agreement between "Morice de Belle Ville, par raison de Jehanne sa femme, dame de la Roche sur Yon et de Luçon" and "Olivier nostre frère" concerning "la terre de Machecoul et de Saint Philbert"[353]. No indication has been found of Nicole’s parentage.
"m thirdly (before Jan 1236) as her second husband, MARGUERITE de Montaigu Dame de Montaigu et de La Garnache [en Poitou], widow of HUGUES de Thouars Seigneur de Montaigu, daughter of --- ([1188/90]-after 27 Nov 1241). "Petrus dux Britanie, comes Richemundie, dominus Gasnapie et Margarita uxor eius" confirmed donations to the abbey Blanche de Noirmoutier by charter dated 1236[354]. The difficulties connected with identifying Marguerite’s correct parentage are discussed in the section showing the seigneurs de Montaigu in the document POITOU -WESTERN. "Margarita uxor…Petri de Brana, Montis Acuti et Gasnapie domina" confirmed the same donations to the abbey Blanche de Noirmoutier by charter dated 1239[355]. "Margarita domina Gasnapie, Montis Acuti et Machecolii" confirmed the donation of a marsh made to Buzay by "le curé de Bouin" by charter dated Jul 1239[356]. "Margarita Montis Acuti et Guasnapiæ domina et hæres" donated property to the abbey of Geneston, with the consent of "viro nostro Petro de Brana", by charter dated 27 Nov 1241[357]. A charter dated 27 Nov 1241, contained in a vidimus dated 6 May 1644, records that “Margarita Montis Acuti et Ganachiæ domina et heres” donated property to the hospital at Montaigu, with the consent of “viro nostro Petro de Brana”[358].
Med Lands cites:
; Nicole N (+1232, bur Nantes.)1
;
His 2nd wife.1
Nicole (?) died in 1232.1
; Per Med Lands:
"PIERRE de Dreux, son of ROBERT [II] Comte de Dreux et de Braine & his second wife Yolande de Coucy ([1187]-at sea off Damietta end-May 1250, bur Braine, église abbatiale de Saint-Ived). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Henricum archiepiscopum Remensem et tres comites, Robertum de Brana, Petrum de Britannia, Iohannem Masticonesem et eorum sorores numero septem" as children of "comiti de Brana Roberto" and his wife Yolande[343]. He swore allegiance at Paris 27 Jan 1213 to Philippe II "Auguste" King of France as PIERRE I "Mauclerc" Duke of Brittany. Comte de Penthièvre by annexation 1214. He was created Earl of Richmond by Henry III King of England 16 Jan 1219 (confiscated Nov 1224, restored Oct 1229, confiscated again Jan 1235). “Johannes comes Matisconensis” names “frater meus P. comes Britannie” in a charter dated Aug 1234[344]. He surrendered the duchy of Brittany to his son in 1237, after which he is sometimes referred to as PIERRE de Braine. William of Tyre (Continuator) names "Pierre de Drues cuens de Bretaigne" among those who took part in the crusade from France which landed at Acre in 1239[345]. He accompanied King Louis IX on crusade in 1249 and was captured at Faraskur 6 Apr 1250, after being wounded at the battle of Mansurah. He died at sea on his return to western Europe.
"m firstly ([Mar 1213/Oct 1214]) ALIX de Thouars Dss of Brittany, daughter of GUY de Thouars & his second wife Constance Dss of Brittany ([1200]-21 Oct 1221, bur 24 Nov 1225 Villeneuve-les-Nantes, Abbaye de Notre-Dame). The Genealogia Comitum Richemundiæ names "Adelicia" as the daughter of "Constantia filia Conani" and her third husband "Guidoni de Thoarcio", stating that she married "domno Petro Mauclerc"[346]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "unam filiam Mabiliam" as the child of "Constantiam comitis Conani filia" and her [third] husband "Guido frater vicecomitem de Tuart"[347]. The Chronique de Guillaume de Nangis records that daughter of Guy de Thouars and Constance de Bretagne married "Pierre Mauclerc, fils de Robert comte de Dreux"[348]. A Chronicon Comitum Pictaviæ et Aquitaniæ Ducum names "Alipsam et Catherinam" as the two daughters of "Wido…comes de Thoarcio" and "Constantiam Gaufridi Ducis Britanniæ relictam", stating that Alix married "Petro Comiti Drocarum"[349]. The Chronicon Britannicum records the death "XII Kal Nov" in 1221 of "Aalis Ducissa Britanniæ"[350].
"Betrothed (before 21 Jul 1229) to [MARIE] de Lusignan, daughter of HUGUES I King of Cyprus & his wife Alix of Jerusalem Ctss of Jaffa ([before 1215]-[1251/53]). A Papal prohibition on the marriage between "comes Britannie" and "filiam reginam Cypri", by reason of 4o consanguinity, is dated at Pérouse 21 Jul 1229[351]. It is not known which daughter was betrothed to the Duke of Brittany, but it is a reasonable assumption that it was Marie who was the older of the queen’s two daughters.
"m secondly ([1230]) NICOLE, daughter of --- (-Feb 1232, bur Villeneuve-les-Nantes, Abbaye de Notre-Dame). Her marriage is confirmed by an epitaph at Villeneuve which records the burial of "Nicolle, la mère monsour Olivier de Machecou"[352], read together with the charter dated 10 Mar 1258 under which "Jehan duc de Bretaigne conte de Richemont" confirmed an agreement between "Morice de Belle Ville, par raison de Jehanne sa femme, dame de la Roche sur Yon et de Luçon" and "Olivier nostre frère" concerning "la terre de Machecoul et de Saint Philbert"[353]. No indication has been found of Nicole’s parentage.
"m thirdly (before Jan 1236) as her second husband, MARGUERITE de Montaigu Dame de Montaigu et de La Garnache [en Poitou], widow of HUGUES de Thouars Seigneur de Montaigu, daughter of --- ([1188/90]-after 27 Nov 1241). "Petrus dux Britanie, comes Richemundie, dominus Gasnapie et Margarita uxor eius" confirmed donations to the abbey Blanche de Noirmoutier by charter dated 1236[354]. The difficulties connected with identifying Marguerite’s correct parentage are discussed in the section showing the seigneurs de Montaigu in the document POITOU -WESTERN. "Margarita uxor…Petri de Brana, Montis Acuti et Gasnapie domina" confirmed the same donations to the abbey Blanche de Noirmoutier by charter dated 1239[355]. "Margarita domina Gasnapie, Montis Acuti et Machecolii" confirmed the donation of a marsh made to Buzay by "le curé de Bouin" by charter dated Jul 1239[356]. "Margarita Montis Acuti et Guasnapiæ domina et hæres" donated property to the abbey of Geneston, with the consent of "viro nostro Petro de Brana", by charter dated 27 Nov 1241[357]. A charter dated 27 Nov 1241, contained in a vidimus dated 6 May 1644, records that “Margarita Montis Acuti et Ganachiæ domina et heres” donated property to the hospital at Montaigu, with the consent of “viro nostro Petro de Brana”[358].
Med Lands cites:
[343] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 852.
[344] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes, Tome II, 2303, p. 269.
[345] William of Tyre Continuator, XXXIII.XLIV, p. 413.
[346] Genealogia Comitum Richemundiæ post conquestum Angliæ, RHGF, Tome XII, p. 569.
[347] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1185, MGH SS XXIII, p. 859.
[348] Guillaume de Nangis, p. 89.
[349] Ex Fragmentis Chronicorum Comitum Pictaviæ et Aquitaniæ Ducum, RHGF, Tome XVIII, p. 243.
[350] Ex Chronico Britannico Altero, RHGF, Tome XVIII, p. 331.
[351] Le Mans Evêché, no. 263, pp. 35-6.
[352] Rays, Vol. I, Introduction, p. cxxxi, quoting Bibl. nat. ms. fr. 22329, p. 717, and Du Paz (1619), p. 237.
[353] Rays, Vol. II, CCXX, p. 254.
[354] Rays, Vol. I, Introduction, p. cxxviii, quoting D. Mor Pr, I, 901.
[355] Rays, Vol. I, Introduction, p. cxxviii, quoting D. Fontenau, I, 365, and extract D. Mor Pr, I, 860 (latter with incorrect date 1229).
[356] Rays, Vol. I, Introduction, p. cxxix, quoting Archives L-Inf., H 24, copy Bibl. nat. ms. lat. 17092, p. 89.
[357] La Borderie (1888), CXVII, p. 191.
[358] Montaigu Aumônerie-Hôpital, II, p. 12.2
[344] Layettes du Trésor des Chartes, Tome II, 2303, p. 269.
[345] William of Tyre Continuator, XXXIII.XLIV, p. 413.
[346] Genealogia Comitum Richemundiæ post conquestum Angliæ, RHGF, Tome XII, p. 569.
[347] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1185, MGH SS XXIII, p. 859.
[348] Guillaume de Nangis, p. 89.
[349] Ex Fragmentis Chronicorum Comitum Pictaviæ et Aquitaniæ Ducum, RHGF, Tome XVIII, p. 243.
[350] Ex Chronico Britannico Altero, RHGF, Tome XVIII, p. 331.
[351] Le Mans Evêché, no. 263, pp. 35-6.
[352] Rays, Vol. I, Introduction, p. cxxxi, quoting Bibl. nat. ms. fr. 22329, p. 717, and Du Paz (1619), p. 237.
[353] Rays, Vol. II, CCXX, p. 254.
[354] Rays, Vol. I, Introduction, p. cxxviii, quoting D. Mor Pr, I, 901.
[355] Rays, Vol. I, Introduction, p. cxxviii, quoting D. Fontenau, I, 365, and extract D. Mor Pr, I, 860 (latter with incorrect date 1229).
[356] Rays, Vol. I, Introduction, p. cxxix, quoting Archives L-Inf., H 24, copy Bibl. nat. ms. lat. 17092, p. 89.
[357] La Borderie (1888), CXVII, p. 191.
[358] Montaigu Aumônerie-Hôpital, II, p. 12.2
; Nicole N (+1232, bur Nantes.)1
Family | Pierre I Mauclerc de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond b. 1187, d. May 1250 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRITTANY.htm#PierreIdied1250MAlixDssBretagneB. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 16 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet16.html
Maurice II de Commequiers1
M, #56185
Last Edited | 15 Jun 2003 |
Family | |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
Henri de Dreux Archbisop of Rheims1
M, #56186, b. 1193, d. 1240
Father | Robert II le Jeune de Dreux comte de Dreux et de Braine, seigneur de Torcy, de Brie-Comte-Robert, de Chilly, de Longjumeau, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy1,2 b. c 1154, d. 28 Dec 1218 |
Mother | Yolande de Coucy1 b. c 1164, d. 18 Mar 1222 |
Last Edited | 23 Nov 2019 |
Henri de Dreux Archbisop of Rheims was born in 1193.1
Henri de Dreux Archbisop of Rheims died in 1240 at Chateau de Courville, Reims, Departement de la Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France (now).1
Henri de Dreux Archbisop of Rheims died in 1240 at Chateau de Courville, Reims, Departement de la Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France (now).1
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_II,_Count_of_Dreux. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
Jean de Dreux Comte de Vienne et de Macon1
M, #56187, b. 1198, d. 1239
Father | Robert II le Jeune de Dreux comte de Dreux et de Braine, seigneur de Torcy, de Brie-Comte-Robert, de Chilly, de Longjumeau, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy1,2 b. c 1154, d. 28 Dec 1218 |
Mother | Yolande de Coucy1 b. c 1164, d. 18 Mar 1222 |
Last Edited | 23 Nov 2019 |
Jean de Dreux Comte de Vienne et de Macon was born in 1198.1 He married Alix (?) Comtesse de Vienne ed de Macon, daughter of Gerard II de Vienne Comte de Macon et de Vienne and Alix Guigonne de Forez, between 1218 and 1227.1,3
Jean de Dreux Comte de Vienne et de Macon died in 1239.1
; Comte de Vienne ed de Macon by right of his wife.1
Jean de Dreux Comte de Vienne et de Macon died in 1239.1
; Comte de Vienne ed de Macon by right of his wife.1
Family | Alix (?) Comtesse de Vienne ed de Macon d. bt 23 Aug 1258 - 1261 |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_II,_Count_of_Dreux. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Ivrea 4 Page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/ivrea/ivrea4.html
Alix (?) Comtesse de Vienne ed de Macon1,2,3
F, #56188, d. between 23 August 1258 and 1261
Father | Gerard II de Vienne Comte de Macon et de Vienne3,4,5 d. b 1224 |
Mother | Alix Guigonne de Forez3,6,5 d. a 1239 |
Last Edited | 25 Apr 2004 |
Alix (?) Comtesse de Vienne ed de Macon married Jean de Dreux Comte de Vienne et de Macon, son of Robert II le Jeune de Dreux comte de Dreux et de Braine, seigneur de Torcy, de Brie-Comte-Robert, de Chilly, de Longjumeau, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy and Yolande de Coucy, between 1218 and 1227.1,5
Alix (?) Comtesse de Vienne ed de Macon died between 23 August 1258 and 1261.1,3,5
; Leo van de pas cites: 1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III/1 122
2. Encyclopedie Genealogique des Maisons Souveraines du Monde Paris, VIII 1963,IX 1964,XII 1966., Docteur Gaston Sirjean, Reference: 245.3
; Cts Alix de Mâcon et de Vienne, +1258/61; m.Jean de Dreux, Cte de Mâcon et de Vienne (*1198 +1239); after Jean's death, Alix sold Mâcon and Vienne (or at least that part not belonging to the Archbishop of Vienne) to the French crown.5
Alix (?) Comtesse de Vienne ed de Macon died between 23 August 1258 and 1261.1,3,5
; Leo van de pas cites: 1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III/1 122
2. Encyclopedie Genealogique des Maisons Souveraines du Monde Paris, VIII 1963,IX 1964,XII 1966., Docteur Gaston Sirjean, Reference: 245.3
; Cts Alix de Mâcon et de Vienne, +1258/61; m.Jean de Dreux, Cte de Mâcon et de Vienne (*1198 +1239); after Jean's death, Alix sold Mâcon and Vienne (or at least that part not belonging to the Archbishop of Vienne) to the French crown.5
Family | Jean de Dreux Comte de Vienne et de Macon b. 1198, d. 1239 |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Ivrea 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/ivrea/ivrea4.html#AG2
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alix de Vienne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027392&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gérard II de Vienne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027390&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Ivrea 4 Page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/ivrea/ivrea4.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alix Guigonne de Forez: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027391&tree=LEO
Geoffroy de Dreux1
M, #56189, b. 1200, d. 1219
Father | Robert II le Jeune de Dreux comte de Dreux et de Braine, seigneur de Torcy, de Brie-Comte-Robert, de Chilly, de Longjumeau, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy1 b. c 1154, d. 28 Dec 1218 |
Mother | Yolande de Coucy1 b. c 1164, d. 18 Mar 1222 |
Last Edited | 15 Jun 2003 |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
Eleonore de Dreux1
F, #56190, b. 1186, d. after April 1248
Father | Robert II le Jeune de Dreux comte de Dreux et de Braine, seigneur de Torcy, de Brie-Comte-Robert, de Chilly, de Longjumeau, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy1 b. c 1154, d. 28 Dec 1218 |
Mother | Yolande de Coucy1 b. c 1164, d. 18 Mar 1222 |
Last Edited | 30 Sep 2006 |
Eleonore de Dreux was born in 1186.1 She married Hugues (?) seigneur de Chateauneuf-en-Thimerais, son of Gervais de Châteauneuf seigneur de Châteauneuf-en-Thimerais, de Bresolles, de Senonches et autres lieux and Marguerite de Donzy, before 1212
; her 1st husband.1,2 Eleonore de Dreux married Robert de Saint-Clair
; her 2nd husband.1
Eleonore de Dreux died after April 1248.1
Eleonore de Dreux was also known as Alienor de Dreux.3
; her 1st husband.1,2 Eleonore de Dreux married Robert de Saint-Clair
; her 2nd husband.1
Eleonore de Dreux died after April 1248.1
Eleonore de Dreux was also known as Alienor de Dreux.3
Family 1 | Hugues (?) seigneur de Chateauneuf-en-Thimerais d. 1229 |
Child |
Family 2 | Robert de Saint-Clair |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
- [S1967] J Bunot, "Bunot email 27 Sept 2005: "Le Bouteiller/Breaute (Baillon)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/xdExALvLFSk/m/CqmJPHK1txMJ) to e-mail address, 27 Sept 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Bunot email 27 Sept 2005."
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