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     Walram/Valeran III Paganus (?) Graf von Limburg, Graf von Arlon, Duke of Lower Lotharingia was born circa 1085; Med Lands says b. 1080/85.^2,7,4 He married Jutta van Wassenberg Heiress of Wassenberg, daughter of Gerhard I Flaminius (?) Graaf van Gelre, Graf von Wassenberg and Clemence (?) de Poitou, heiress of Gleibert, Css de Longwy, in 1110
; Med Lands says m. 1107/10.^2,7,4,9
Walram/Valeran III Paganus (?) Graf von Limburg, Graf von Arlon, Duke of Lower Lotharingia died on 6 August 1139.^2,1,7,4
      ; Per Genealogy.EU: "Ct Walram III (Walraven) of Limburg (1119-39), Duke of Lower Lorraine (1128-39), *ca 1085, +16.7./6.8.1139; m.ca 1110 Jutta, heiress of Wassenberg (*ca 1087 +Rolduc 24.6.1151) dau.of Gf Gerhard II von Wassenberg (Geldern.)²"

Reference: Genealogics cites:

; Per Med Lands:
     "WALRAM [II] “Paganus” van Limburg, son of HENDRIK [I] Graaf van Limburg, Duke of Lower Lotharingia & his [second] wife Adelheid von Botenstein ([1080/85]-6 Aug 1139). The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi records "Henricus de Liemborc, pater Pagani de Arluna" as son of son of "Adela soror Friderici ducis...filiam unam” (sister of “Fulconem et Gallerannum”)[56]. The Annalista Saxo names "Walrabonum ducem qui et Paginus dicebatur" as son of "Heinricus dux de Lintburh" and his wife Adelheid von Botenstein[57]. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[58], Waleran and his siblings were children of his father's first marriage. The primary source on which this is based has not yet been identified. It is possible that it is only speculative because Waleran inherited the county of Arlon, although this would not be the only case of property passing from an individual's first wife to the children of his second marriage (for example the inheritance of the county of Hainaut by Baudouin de Flandre, second husband of Richilde whose first husband was Herman Comte de Hainaut, see the document HAINAUT). Until further evidence comes to light, it is considered preferable to accept the report in the Annalista Saxo. It should also be noted that the parents of Adelheid von Botenstein, Graf Hendrik's [second] wife, allegedly married in 1056 (see BAVARIA NOBILITY), which suggests that their daughter may have been born soon after this date. If this is correct, it would be consistent with Graf Walram [II] having been born in [1085]. Comte d'Arlon: Bruno Archbishop of Trier donated property “in Liemena” to Trier by charter dated 1115, witnessed by “...Walrammus comes de Arlo...”[59]. Graaf van Limburg. Avocat de Saint-Trond [Sep 1124/1127] (the earlier date being the last document in which his predecessor Giselbert Comte de Duras is called avocat): “advocato Gualeramno cognomento Pagino et subadvocato Gillberto...” witnessed the charter dated 1127 under which Etienne Bishop of Metz donated property to Saint-Trond[60]. "Gerardus de Gelre, Arnoldus comes de Berge, Waleramus comes de Lemburg, Gerardus comes de Iuliaco…" signed the charter dated 1127 under which Friedrich Archbishop of Köln donated property to Kloster St Martin, Köln[61]. Friedrich [I] Archbishop of Köln founded a church "in castro meo episcopali…Zulpiacum" by charter dated 1124 witnessed by "Paganus comes, Theodericus comes de Ara, Herimannus de Hengebach, Theodericus et frater eius Adelgerus de Gladebach…"[62]. The Gestorum Abbatem Trudonensium records that he was installed as WALERAN Duke of Lower Lotharingia by Emperor Lothar in 1128[63]. The necrology of Stavelot records the deaths "XVII Kal Aug" of "Walrani duci…dna Judith juge sua"[64].
     "m ([1107/10]) JUTTA von Wassenberg, daughter of GERHARD [I] "Flaminius" Graf von Wassenberg & his [first wife ---] ([1087]-Rolduc 24 Jun 1151, bur Rolduc [Rode] abbey). Heiress of Wassenberg. The Chronicon Hanoniense records that "Balduinus comes Hanoniensis" married "Yolendem…comitis de Ghelra filiam", and that "aliam…eiusdem comitis de Ghelra filiam" married "Henricus dux de Lemborch" who inherited "castrum Wassemberghe" from her, a later passage adding that the father of the daughters was "comitis de Ghelra Gerardi"[65]. The chronology dictates that her husband was Walram [II] Graaf van Limburg not Hendrik. The Annales Rodenses record that in 1151 “Jutta ducissa, Walrami ducis de Leimburch uxor et Heinrici ejusdem ducis filii mater” donated “ecclesie...apud Lomunsheim” to Rolduc [Rode] abbey, died “VIII Kal Jul” and was buried in the abbey[66]. Henri Bishop of Liège confirmed the donations made by "domina Jutta, nobilissima matrona uxor ducis Walrami de Lemburg" to Rolduc [Rode] abbey, with the consent of "filiis suis Domino Henrico et Gerardo" by charter dated 1151, which records the presence at her burial in Rolduc [Rode] of "filii eiusdem Henricus et Gerardus et filiolus Domini Heinrici, eiusdem nominis, Arnoldus quoque filius Ruberti comitis de Lunneburg natus ex domina Beatrice filia præfatæ dominæ, et Theodericus filius Ekberti comitis de Titkelenburg natus ex alia filia"[67]. The necrology of Stavelot records the deaths "XVII Kal Aug" of "Walrani duci…dna Judith juge sua"[68]. The Chronicle of Rolduc records the death of Jutta 24 Jun 1151[69]."
Med Lands cites:

; Per Genealogics:
     "Walram III was born about 1085, the son of Heinrich I, Graf von Limburg. Called 'Paganus' (the Pagan), probably due to a late baptism, he was duke of Limburg and count of Arlon from his father's death in about 1119 until his own twenty years later.
     "About 1100 he married Judith van Wassenberg, heiress of Wessenberg, daughter of Gerhard I Flaminius, count of Gelre, count of Wassenberg, and Clémence de Poitou, heiress of Gleiberg. Their son Heinrich and daughter Margaretha would have progeny.
     "He was given the duchy of Lower Lorraine by Lothar von Supplinburg, duke of Saxony, after the latter's accession as King of the Germans in 1125.
     "Walram's father Heinrich had been forced to yield the duchy to Godfried I, comte de Louvain, on the succession of Heinrich V as emperor, but had kept the ducal title. With the coming of Lothar von Supplinburg, Godfried was forced to yield the duchy to Walram. Godfried was not willing to do so and war broke out, especially over disputes about authority over the abbey of Sint-Truiden. In 1129 Walram and the bishop of Liège, Alexandre de Juliers, destroyed Godfried's forces at Wilde. His rule was actual from there on. Though Walram and Godfried eventually reconciled, Godfried maintained the ducal title, as Heinrich had.
     "In 1129 Walram was made master of the forest of Duisburg. In 1139 Emperor Lothar von Supplinburg died and Walram supported Konrad III von Schwaben, Herzog von Franken, who was elected King of the Germans. He remained faithful to the new king until his death shortly thereafter on 6 August 1139. He was succeeded in Lorraine by Godfried II, comte de Louvain, son of Godfried I, and in Limburg by his son Heinrich II."⁷ GAV-24 EDV-24.

; Per Racines et Histoire: "2) Walraven = Walram III d’Arlon Walram II van Limburg ° ~1085 + 06/08/1139 comte d’Arlon (1115-1119) puis graaf van Limburg (1119), duc de Basse-Lotharingie (1128-1139, par l’Empereur Lothar)
     ép. 1107/10 Jutta von Wassenberg, héritière de Wassenberg ° ~1087 + 24/06/1151 (Abbaye de Rolduc.)¹⁰" He was Graf von Limburg between 1119 and 1139.² He was Duke of Lower Lorraine between 1128 and 1139.²

     Ida (?) de Boulogne died circa 1082.¹
      ; Racines et Histoire says "ép. Manassès II, comte de Réthel + 1081 ou peu après (fils de Manassès 1er
de Réthel.)²"

     Henri I (?) comte de Louvain married Maud (?) of Lorraine.⁶
Henri I (?) comte de Louvain was born between 992 and 1000.⁴
Henri I (?) comte de Louvain died after 5 August 1038 at Brussels, Louvain, Belgium; murdered.^3,2,4
     EDV-30. He was Count of Louvain between 1015 and 1038.³

     Maud (?) of Lorraine married Henri I (?) comte de Louvain, son of Lambert I "The Bearded" (?) Count of Louvain and Gerberga (?) de Lorraine.¹

     EDV-30.

     Mauguerite (?) de Louvaine married Baudouin II/III de Créquy seigneur de Créquy et de Fressin, son of Ramelin II de Créquy and Colle de Rumigny.³

     EDV-29.

; Per Racines et Histoire (Créquy): “2) Baudouin II (III) de Créquy ° 989 + 1057 seigneur de Créquy et de Fressin, X 1007 (au siège de Valenciennes mené par Baudouin IV «A la Belle Barbe» comte de Flandres, contre l’Empereur Heinrich III «Le Boiteux» ce qui lui vaut un titre de baron en Artois) (serait à l’origine de la devise de sa Maison : «Nul ne s’y frotte» ; son cri de guerre : « à Créquy, le Grand Baron !»)
     ép.~1035 Marguerite de Louvain, dame de Bierbach (ou Bierback) ° ~1020 + ~1045 (fille d’Henri, comte de Louvain) ”.²

     Baudouin II/III de Créquy seigneur de Créquy et de Fressin married Mauguerite (?) de Louvaine, daughter of Henri I (?) comte de Louvain and Maud (?) of Lorraine.¹

Baudouin II/III de Créquy seigneur de Créquy et de Fressin died circa 1007.¹
     EDV-28.

; Per Racines et Histoire (Créquy): “2) Baudouin II (III) de Créquy ° 989 + 1057 seigneur de Créquy et de Fressin, X 1007 (au siège de Valenciennes mené par Baudouin IV «A la Belle Barbe» comte de Flandres, contre l’Empereur Heinrich III «Le Boiteux» ce qui lui vaut un titre de baron en Artois) (serait à l’origine de la devise de sa Maison : «Nul ne s’y frotte» ; son cri de guerre : « à Créquy, le Grand Baron !»)
     ép.~1035 Marguerite de Louvain, dame de Bierbach (ou Bierback) ° ~1020 + ~1045 (fille d’Henri, comte de Louvain) ”.²

     Anne de Crequy married Guérin I de Craon, son of Suhard le Vieux de Craon.³

     EDV-29.

     Guérin I de Craon married Anne de Crequy, daughter of Baudouin II/III de Créquy seigneur de Créquy et de Fressin and Mauguerite (?) de Louvaine.¹

Guérin I de Craon died after 1053.⁶
     EDV-29.

     Suhard le Vieux de Craon died after 1010.²
     EDV-30. He was living in 1010.²

     EDV-31.

     André/Andin (?) seigneur de Craon died circa 941.¹ He married Agnes (?) d'Anjou, daughter of Foulques II "le Bon" (?) Comte d'Anjou, in 958.^3,2

     EDV-31 GKJ-32.

     Agnes (?) d'Anjou married André/Andin (?) seigneur de Craon, son of Lisois (?) de Craon, in 958.^1,2

     EDV-31 GKJ-32.

     Thomas Sackville KG, PC, 1st Earl of Dorset was born between 1527 and 1536.¹ He married Cicely Baker of Sissinghurst Castle, Kent, daughter of Sir John Baker PC, of Sissinghurst Castle, Kent, in 1555.¹

Thomas Sackville KG, PC, 1st Earl of Dorset died on 19 April 1608.¹
      ; THOMAS SACKVILLE, 1st EARL OF DORSET, so cr 13 March 1603/4, as also earlier 8 June 1567 BARON OF BUCKHURST, Co Sussex (both E), KG (1589), PC (between 1582 and Feb 1595/6); b between 1527 and 1536; allegedly educ Hart Hall Oxford and St John's Coll Cambridge; barrister Inner Temple, MP Westmorland 1557/8, E Grinstead 1559 and Aylesbury 1563-67, ktd 1567, Amb to States (foreunner of The Netherlands) in the Low Countries in revolt against Spain; Jt Ld Lt Sussex 1587-1608, Jt Commr Gt Seal 1591-92, Chllr Oxford U 1591-1608, Ld High Treasurer 1599-1608; author 'Induction' and the 'Complaint of Buckingham' in the 1563 edn of A Mirror for Magistrates (anthology of didactic poetry) and Acts IV and V (Thomas Norton being responsible for Acts I-III, or so the 1st edn of 1565 claims) of Gorboduc (first performed 1561), alleged to be the first English blank-verse tragedy and the first tragedy where some attempt is made at characterisation rather than personifications of virtues, vices, etc; m 1555 Cicely, 2nd dau of Sir John Baker, PC, of Sissinghurst Castle, Kent, Speaker H of C, and d 19 April 1608.¹ He was 1st Earl of Dorset on 13 March 1603/4.¹

     Wichmann II 'the Elder' (?) Count of Engern was born circa 900.¹ He married Fredegunde/Frederuna (?) of the Franks, daughter of Dietrich II (?) von Ringelheim, Count of Saxon-Hamelant and Reginhilde (?) von Friesland, circa 930.^4,5,2

Wichmann II 'the Elder' (?) Count of Engern died on 23 April 944.²
     GAV-31. Wichmann II 'the Elder' (?) Count of Engern was also known as Wichman von Stubenskorn.⁴

; Per Med Lands:
     "WICHMANN [II], son of BILLUNG & his wife --- (-23 Apr 944). Widukind names "Wichmanni fratris sui [=Herimannum]", when recording his rebellion against King Otto[261]. "Otto…rex" granted property "in pago Vnimoti in comitatu Wigmanni dua loca Vrlaha et Ottingha" for the foundation of Magdeburg by charter dated 11 Oct 937[262]. He rebelled against Otto I King of Germany in 938, dissatisfied that the king had given military command in Saxony to his brother Hermann, but made peace with the king later the same year[263]. The Annales Magdeburgenses record the reconciliation of "Wigmannus frater Hermanni Saxonis ducis" and the king in 941[264]. The necrology of Fulda records the death in 944 of "Wigman com"[265]. The necrology of Lüneburg records the death "23 Apr" of "Wigmam com"[266].
     "m FREDERUNA, daughter of Graf THEODERICH [Immedinger] & his wife Reginlind --- (-18 Jan 971). Her origin is deduced from Thietmar referring to "Counts Wichmann and Ekbert…brothers" as sons of Emperor Otto I's maternal aunt[267], although he does not name their mother. A list of names in the Libri Confraternitatum Sancti Galli sets out (in order) "Thieterich, Reginhilt, *, Oto, Amalrat, Perectheid, Friderun, Pia", immediately after a list of family members of Heinrich I King of Germany and his wife, which no doubt refers to the latter's parents and sisters[268]. It is also possible that the wife of Wichmann [I] was the sister Bia, unless she can be identified as the mother of Friedrich (see above). The necrology of Fulda records the death "970 Id Jan" of "Fridarun comitissa [anc Christi]"[269], presumably showing that she became a nun before she died. "
Med Lands cites:

     Ekbert 'der Einäugige' (?) Graf im Hastfalagau was born between 930 and 935.³
Ekbert 'der Einäugige' (?) Graf im Hastfalagau died on 4 April 994.³
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "[EKBERT [I] "der Einäugige" ([930/35]-4 Apr 994). No direct proof has been found that Ekbert [I] was the son of Wichmann [II] but the chronology is favorable. However, it is clear that he was the brother of Wichmann [III], as Thietmar refers to "Counts Wichmann and Ekbert…brothers" instigating the Slavs to war[282]. His birth date range is estimated on the assumption that he was of a similar age to Liudolf, son of Emperor Otto I, when he joined Liudolf's rebellion. Ekbert lost an eye in a battle for which he blamed Emperor Otto I[283]. "Otto…rex" confirmed the immunities of Kloster Essen including over land "excepta in loco Ruoldinghus quam Eggihart et eius coniunx Rikilt" possessed by hereditary right and in land "in comitatu Ecberti et Cobbonis" by charter dated 15 Jan 947[284], although Ekbert [I] would have been rather young at that date for this to be the same person. Thietmar records that "Count Ekbert" joined the rebellion of Liudolf, son of Emperor Otto I[285], dated from other sources to [953/54]. "Otto…imperator augustus" made a donation to St Pantaleon at Köln of property "insule medietatem in Almere que Urch vocatur…quod Gardolfus iam quondam comes…tenuisse…in comitatu Ekberti comitis" by an undated charter, dated to 966[286]. Thietmar records that "Count Ekbert" was tried for complicity in the rebellion of Heinrich Duke of Bavaria and sent into exile[287], dated to 978. In a later passage, the same chronicler records that Count Ekbert was present with Duke Heinrich when the latter kidnapped King Otto III and that subsequently the king's sister Adelheid was held at Ekbert's fortress of Ala[288]. Graf im Hastfalagau. "Otto…rex" donated property "Vvalbisci in comitatu Karoli comitis" to Quedlinburg by charter dated 6 Jan 992, which names as present "Bernhardi ducis, Egberti comitis, Eggihardi marchionis, Herimanni palatini comitis, Huodonis marchionis, Deoderici palatini comitis eiusque fratris Sigeberti comitis, Herimanni comitis"[289], Ekbert's position as second in the list of nobles indicating his importance at the time. The necrology of Fulda records the death in 994 of "Egbertus com"[290]. The necrology of Lüneburg records the death "4 Apr" of "Ekbert com"[291].
     "m ---. The name of Ekbert's wife is not known.] Ekbert & his wife had [six possible children]. No direct proof has been found that the following are children of Ekbert but this is probable. That Ekbert had surviving sons is shown by the charter of "Otto tercius…Romanorum imperator augustus" dated 23 Jan 1001 which donates property "castellum Dalehem…in pago Hastfala sive Ambargam in comitatu filiorum Ekbrahti comitis et nepotis nostri" to the church of Hildesheim[292]. The relationship of "nepos" to Emperor Otto III would have been a remote one through Ekbert's supposed mother Friderun, who was the sister of Emperor Otto's paternal great-grandmother."
Med Lands cites: GAV-30. Ekbert 'der Einäugige' (?) Graf im Hastfalagau was also known as Ekebert Count in the Ambergau.²

     Bruno|Burin|Brun I (?) Graf von Braunschweig was born between 960 and 980; Genealogics says b. abt 960/980; Med Lands says b. 975/85.^4,5 He married Gisela von Schwaben Queen of Germany, Holy Roman empress, Queen of Burgundy, daughter of Hermann II (?) Duke of Swabia and Gerberge/Guepa (?) de Bourgogne, in 1002
;
Her 1st husband.^5,6,4,7
Bruno|Burin|Brun I (?) Graf von Braunschweig died circa 1014 at Murdered, near Niedorp; Med Lands says d. 1010/11; Genealogics says d. ca 1014.^4,5
      ; Per Genealogy.EU (Wetterau): “F3. Gisela, *990, +Goslar 15.2.1043, bur Speyer; 1m: Bruno von Braunschweig (+ca 1006); 2m: ca 1014 Duke Ernst I of Swabia (+31.5.1015); 3m: King Konrad II of Germany (*ca 990, +4.6.1039)”.⁷

; Per Med Lands:
     "GISELA (11 Nov 990[146]-Goslar 16 Feb 1043, bur Speyer Cathedral). Herimannus names "sororis suæ [=Herimannus iunior dux Alamanniæ defunctus" as wife of Ernst when recording the latter's succession as Duke of Swabia in 1012[147]. Wipo names "Herimannus dux Alamanniæ [et] Kerbirga filia Chuonradi regis de Burgundia" as the parents of "regis coniunx Gisela"[148]. The Notæ Sancti Blasii name her "Gisla de Werle" when recording her three marriages[149]. The Annalista Saxo names her three husbands, although the order of her first and second marriages is interchanged, which appears impossible chronologically[150]. The necrology of Fulda records the death "1043 XVI Kal Mar" of "Gisela imp"[151]. Herimannus records her death at Goslar[152]. The Annales Spirenses record the burial at Speyer of "Heinricus senior [=Heinricus IV] et aviam suam"[153], the latter assumed to be Gisela his paternal grandmother rather than his maternal grandmother.
     "m firstly ([1003/05]) BRUNO [I] Graf [von Braunschweig], son of EKBERT & his wife --- (-murdered [1010/11]).
     "m secondly ([1012]) ERNST Duke of Swabia, son of LUITPOLD I Markgraf der bayerischen Ostmark [Babenberg-Austria] & his wife Richwara --- (-31 Mar 1015, bur Würzburg).
     "m thirdly (before Jan 1017) KONRAD Herzog von Franken, son of HEINRICH Graf im Wormsgau [Salier] & his wife Adelheid of Metz [Matfriede] ([990]-Utrecht 4 Jun 1039, bur Speyer cathedral). He was elected KONRAD II King of Germany 4 Sep 1024, crowned at Mainz 8 Sep 1024. Crowned King of Italy at Milan Mar 1026. Crowned Emperor at Rome 26 Mar 1027."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Richardson:
     "Douglas Richardson Mar 26, 2006, 11:58:40 AM
     "Duke Heinrich of Bavaria & Saxony (nicknamed the Lion), died 1195, referred in a charter dated before ?1190 to his late kinsman, Friedrich II, Count Palatine of Saxony, Count of Sommerschenburg, founder of Marienthal monastery ["... quam pie memorie Frithericus palatinus, fundator ipsius coenobii, cognatus noster") [Reference: Die Urkunden Heinrichs des Löwen Herzogs von Sachsen und Bayern (Monumenta Germaniae Historica, 500-1500) (1941): 181-182].
     "Charting their respective ancestries, I find that three of Count Friedrich II's great-grandparents are unknown, which makes it difficult at best to be certain how the two men were related. Regardless, I find that one of Count Friedrich's great-grandparents, Bernard II, Count of Hövel, was in fact uncle to the ancestral line of Duke Heinrich. If this is the kinship intended, the two men were related in the 4th and 7th degrees of kindred, or if you prefer third cousins thrice removed, by virtue of common descent from Gerbege (or Guepa) of Burgundy, died 1018/9, but by different husbands, as charted below.

     "For additional information on Friedrich II, Count Palatine of Saxony, Count of Sommerschenburg (died 1162), see the following website:
http://www.genealogie-mittelalter.de/sommerschenburger_pfalzgrafen_von_sachsen/friedrich_2_pfalzgraf_von_sachsen_1162/friedrich_2_pfalzgraf_von_sachsen_+_1162.html
     "This post is part of a systematic, exhaustive study into the nature of kinship among high born medieval European families.
     "Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
     "Website: www.royalancestry.net“.⁹

; Per Genealogics:
     “Bruno was born between 960 and 980, possibly a son of a Brun or Bruno, Graf von Walbeck. From the family/tribe of the Brunonen, he was count of Braunschweig, which he founded, and count in the Derlingau and Nordthüringgau.
     “In 990 he participated in the expedition to support Mieszko I Dagon, grand duke of Poland, against Boleslaw II 'the Pious', duke of Bohemia. After the death without progeny of Emperor Otto III in 1002, Bruno attempted unsuccessfully to gain the German crown.
     “Bruno married Gisela von Schwaben, widow of Ernst, Herzog von Schwaben, and daughter of Hermann II, Herzog von Schwaben, and Gerberge de Bourgogne. Their son Liudolf would have progeny.
     “Around 1014 Bruno was killed in his residence by a personal enemy Milo, Graf von Ammensleben.”.⁴

; This is the same person as:
”Brun I, Count of Brunswick” at Wikipedia, as
”Bruno Ier de Brunswick” at Wikipedia (Fr.),
and as ”Brun I. von Braunschweig” at Wikipedia (De.)^10,11,12

Reference: Genealogics cites: GAV-29.

; Per Med Lands:
     "BRUNO, son of [EKBERT "der Einäugige Graf im Hastfalagau] & his wife --- ([975/85]-murdered near Niedorp[10] [1010/11][11]). There is no proof that Bruno von Braunschweig was the son of Ekbert "der Einäugige" but this appears probable in view of the names which are common to the two families and also the common references to the Derlingau. Bruno is shown in Europäische Stammtafeln as the brother of Wichmann [III] Graf im Duffelgau and Ekbert Graf im Derlingau, while another table shows Wichmann [III] as son of Ekbert[12]. His birth date range is estimated from his estimated marriage date. The estimated birth date ranges of both Wichmann [III] and Bruno are consistent with their having been brothers. Bruno founded Braunschweig. He was a candidate for the German throne in 1002[13] in opposition to Heinrich IV Duke of Bavaria, who was elected as Heinrich II King of Germany.
     "m ([1003/05]) as her first husband, GISELA of Swabia, daughter of HERMANN II Duke of Swabia & his wife Gerberga of Upper Burgundy (11 Nov 990-Goslar 16 Feb 1043, bur Speyer Cathedral). The Annalista Saxo names her three husbands, although the order of her first and second marriages is interchanged which appears impossible chronologically[14]. The necrology of Fulda records the death "1043 16 Kal Mar" of "Gisela imp"[15]. She married secondly ([1014]) Ernst Duke of Swabia [Babenberg] and thirdly Konrad II Herzog von Franken, who succeeded in 1024 as Konrad II King of Germany, and was crowned as Emperor Konrad I in 1027. "
Med Lands cites:
; NB: Genealogics says that she was the dau. of Liudolf of Brunswick. Med Lands says that she was Liudolf's sister.^13,14

     Hermann IV (?) Herzog von Schwaben was born circa 1015; Genealogy.EU (Babenberg) says b. ca 1015; Genealogics says b. ca 1007; Med Lands says b. 1015.^2,3,5 He married Adelaide de Susa Markgrafin of Susa, Herrin of Torino, daughter of Manfredo Udalrico II (?) Marchese di Torino, Count of Susa and Bertha d'Este, between 1035 and 1036
;
Her 1st husband.^8,9,10,5
Hermann IV (?) Herzog von Schwaben died on 28 July 1038 at near Milan, Lombardia, Italy (now); died of the plague.^8,2,5
Hermann IV (?) Herzog von Schwaben was buried after 28 July 1038 at Trento Cathedral, Trento, Provincia di Trento, Trentino-Alto Adige, Italy; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1010, Bavaria (Bayern), Germany
     DEATH     1038 (aged 27–28), Milan, Città Metropolitana di Milano, Lombardia, Italy
     Herman IV was the Duke of Swabia. He was the second son of Ernest I and Gisela of Swabia. Herman became duke in 1030 following the death of his older brother Ernest II. He married to Adelaide of Susa, the marchioness of Turin, in January 1037. In July of the next year, while campaigning with Conrad in Southern Italy, he was struck down by an epidemic near Naples. He was buried in Cattedrale di San Vigilio (Trento Cathedral) because the summer heat made it impossible to bring the corpse back to Germany
Adelaide remarried to Henry of Montferrat.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Ernest I of Swabia unknown–1015
          Gisela of Swabia 999–1043
     Spouse
          Adelaide di Susa 1014–1091
     Half Siblings
          Heinrich III 1017–1056
          Mathilde of Franconia 1026–1034
     BURIAL     Trento Cathedral, Trento, Provincia di Trento, Trentino-Alto Adige, Italy
     Created by: Mad
     Added: 4 Nov 2012
     Find a Grave Memorial 100148567.¹¹
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "ADELAIDA di Susa (Turin 1020-Canischio in Canavese 27 Dec 1091, bur Turin, cathedral of San Giovanni). She succeeded her father in 1034 as Marchesa di Susa, heiress of Auriate, Turin, Ivrea and Aosta. Her first marriage is confirmed by Herimannus who records that "Hermannus quoque dux Alamanniæ" was granted "marcham soceri sui Maginfredi in Italia" by the emperor in 1034[614]. "Adaleida f. quondam Maginfredi marchionis et coniux Ermanni ducis et marchionis" donated property "in loco Porciana" to the monastery of San Stefano at Genoa by charter dated 4 Jul [1038], signed by "Bertæ comitissæ…"[615]. "Heynricus marchio filius quondam Uuilielmi similique marchioni et Adalagide cometisse jugales filia bone memorie Odolrici qui et Maginfredi similique marchionis" donated churches to the church of Torino by charter dated 29 Jan 1042[616]. Her second marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 1043 under which "Henricus marchio filius quondam Wilielmi similiter marchioni et Adalena comitissa jugales filia quondam bo. me. Oldrici…Maginfredi…marchioni" donated property to San Antonino[617]. "Adalania comitissa filia quondam Odolricus…Magenfridi et conjux Enricus" donated property to Santa Maria di Cavorre by charter dated 1043[618]. Rivaz, in his compiled index of Burgundian charters. notes a charter dated 1043 under which "Henri marquis de Monferrat et Adelaide de Susa son épouse" donated the church of Santa Agata, Susa to the monastery of Saint-Antonin[619]. "Domnus Henricus marchio filius quondam Vuilielmi…marchio et domna Adeleita cometissa iugales, filia quondam Odelrici qui et Magnifredi…marchionis" donated property to Pinerolo by charter dated 14 Mar [1044][620]. Her third marriage is confirmed by the Annalista Saxo which names "Adelheidis que soror erat comitis qui agnominatus est de Monte Bardonis in Italia et Immule seu Irmingardis" as wife of "Ottonis marchionis de Italia"[621]. She was regent for her son in 1060 after the death of her husband, playing a significant role in support of Heinrich IV King of Germany, her son-in-law, in his disputes with the Papacy. "Dominus Petrus Marchio filius quond. bonæ memoriæ Oddonis marchionis…cum domina Adheleida comitissa matre sua" signed a charter dated 31 Jul 1064[622]. "Adelegida…comitissa" donated property to Pinerolo, for the souls of "domni Manfredi marchionis genitoris mei et Adalrici episcopi Barbani mei et Bertæ genetricis meæ et…domni Odonis marchionis viri mei", by charter dated 8 Sep 1064, signed by "Petri, Amedei, Vitelmi qui Bruno vicecomes vocatur…Henrici qui vocatur Marchio…"[623]. "Adalaxia cometissa filia quondam Maginfredus marchio" donated property to Pinerolo by charter dated 23 Jul 1075[624]. She mediated with Pope Gregory VII when King Heinrich submitted to him at Canossa in 1077, and received in return the town of Bugey for the house of Savoy[625]. "Domna Adelaida comitissa filia…cum filiis suis Petro et Amedeo" donated property to Novalesa, for the soul of "mariti sui Oddonis", by charter dated 16 Jul 1078[626]. "Adalegida cometissa filia Maginfredi marchionis et relicta quond. Oddonis idemque marchionis" donated property to the monastery at Taurini, in the presence of "domne Agnetis comitissæ, filiæ Wilelmi comitis et relictæ quondam Petri marchionis", for the souls of "Maginfredi patris, Adalrici Astensis episcopi patrui, Berthæ matris et Petri marchionis filii predictæ comitissæ Adalegidæ", by charter dated 4 Jul 1079[627]. The necrology of Schaffhausen records the death "XIV Kal Jan" of "Adelheida Taurinensis comitissa"[628]. "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" confirmed the possessions of the church at Asti by undated charter placed in the compilation with other charters dated 1093, which notes among others property in "comitatum [Astensi]…habuit et tenuit Adheledis comitissa"[629].
     "m firstly (1035) HERMANN IV Duke of Swabia, son of ERNST I Duke of Swabia [Babenberg] & his wife Gisela of Swabia ([1015]-28 Jul 1038). He was the stepson of Emperor Konrad II who arranged his marriage with Adelaida who was a powerful heiress in Northern Italy[630].
     "m secondly (Jan 1042) ENRICO Marchese di Monferrato, son of Marchese GUGLIELMO & his wife Waza --- (-[14 Mar 1044/1045]).
     "m thirdly ([1046]) ODDON de Maurienne, son of HUMBERT Comte de Maurienne & his second wife Auxilia --- ([1017]-1 Mar 1060, bur Turin, cathedral of San Giovanni). Marchese di Susa [1046], in right of his wife. Comte de Chablais."
Med Lands cites:

Reference: Genealogics cites:

; Per Genealogics:
     “Hermann was born about 1007, the son of Ernst, Herzog von Schwaben, and Gisela von Schwaben. After the death of his father, his mother married first Bruno of Brunswick, then Emperor Konrad II. Hermann's elder brother Ernst was considered to be too rebellious to be entrusted with the duchy of Schwaben (Swabia), so his mother induced her husband the emperor to appoint Hermann IV as duke. This was done at Ingelheim on 29 March 1030. About 1036 Hermann married Adelaide de Susa. Adelaide's father had died in 1034, her mother intervened to ensure that Hermann also received the Susa inheritance. He joined his stepfather Emperor Konrad II on crusade, but on 28 July 1038 he died in Italy of the plague.
     “Herman did not have any legitimate children as he was on campaign for much of his short marriage to Adelaide, and thus died without heirs.”.³

; This is the same person as ”Herman IV, Duke of Swabia” at Wikipedia, as ”Hermann IV de Souabe” at Wikipédia (FR), and as ”Hermann IV. (Schwaben)” at Wikipédia (DE).^12,13,14 GAV-28.

; Per Genealogy.EU (Babenbergs): “B2. Duke Hermann IV of Swabia (1030-38), *1015, +Trento 28.7.1038; m.Adelheid of Susa (*1015 +19.12.1091) dau.of Mgve Odelrico Menfredo II of Susa, Mkgf of Turin by Berthe von Este”.¹⁵

; Per Med Lands:
     "HERMANN ([1015]-28 Jul 1038). The Chronicle of Otto of Freising names "geminosque ex ea [Ernusto duci Suevorum] filios Ernustum et Herimannum"[207], although it is not certain that this should be taken as meaning that the two brothers were twins, reference to which has not yet been identified in other sources. Herimannus names "frater eius [=Ernust dux] iunior Herimannus" when recording his succession as Duke of Swabia in 1030 when his brother was deprived of the title[208]. He succeeded his brother in 1030 as HERMANN IV Duke of Swabia. He succeeded his father-in-law as Marchese di Susa in 1036. Wipo records the death "V Kal Aug" of "filius imperatricis Herimannus dux Alemannorum"[209]. The necrology of Fulda records the death in 1038 of "Herimannnus dux"[210]. The necrology of St Gall records the death "V Kal Aug" of "Heremanni ducis Alamannnorum"[211].
     "m (1035) as her first husband, ADELAIDA Marchesa di Susa, daughter of MANFREDO UDALRICO Marchese di Susa Conte di Turino & his wife Berta degli Obertenghi (Turin 1020-Canischio in Canavese 27 Dec 1091, bur Turin, cathedral of San Giovanni). Her first marriage is confirmed by Herimannus who records that "Hermannus quoque dux Alamanniæ" was granted "marcham soceri sui Maginfredi in Italia" by the emperor in 1034[212]. "Adaleida f. quondam Maginfredi marchionis et coniux Ermanni ducis et marchionis" donated property "in loco Porciana" to the monastery of San Stefano at Genoa by charter dated 4 Jul [1038], signed by "Bertæ comitissæ…"[213]. She married secondly (Jan 1042) Enrico Marchese di Monferrato. Her second marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 1043 under which "Henricus marchio filius quondam Wilielmi similiter marchioni et Adalena comitissa jugales filia quondam bo. me. Oldrici…Maginfredi…marchioni" donated property to San Antonino[214]. "Adalania comitissa filia quondam Odolricus…Magenfridi et conjux Enricus" donated property to Santa Maria di Cavorre by charter dated 1043[215]. Rivaz, in his compiled index of Burgundian charters. notes a charter dated 1043 under which "Henri marquis de Monferrat et Adelaide de Susa son épouse" donated the church of Santa Agata, Susa to the monastery of Saint-Antonin[216]. She married thirdly ([1046]) Oddon de Maurienne Comte de Chablais [Savoie]. The Annalista Saxo names "Adelheidis que soror erat comitis qui agnominatus est de Monte Bardonis in Italia et Immule seu Irmingardis" as wife of "Ottonis marchionis de Italia"[217]. She succeeded her father in 1034 as Marchesa di Susa, heiress of Auriate, Turin, Ivrea and Aosta. She was regent for her son in 1060 after the death of her husband, playing a significant role in support of Heinrich IV King of Germany, her son-in-law, in his disputes with the Papacy. She mediated with Pope Gregory VII when King Heinrich submitted to him at Canossa in 1077, and received in return the town of Bugey for the house of Savoy[218]. The necrology of Schaffhausen records the death "XIV Kal Jan" of "Adelheida Taurinensis comitissa"[219]. "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" confirmed the possessions of the church at Asti by undated charter placed in the compilation with other charters dated 1093, which notes among others property in "comitatum [Astensi]…habuit et tenuit Adheledis comitissa"[220]."
Med Lands cites:

; Per Genealogy.EU (Babenbergs): “B2. Duke Hermann IV of Swabia (1030-38), *1015, +28.7.1038; m.Adelheid of Susa (*1015 +19.12.1091) dau.of Mgve Odelrico Menfredo II of Susa, Mkgf of Turin by Berthe von Este”.²

; NB: There is no clear agreement between my main "tertiary" sources of information regarding the descent of Gebhard I. However, the four following sources provide various pieces of a descent:


I. Genealogy.EU (Babenberg) - This descent is clear, but is not supported by any sources:
     Genealogics - No father is shown for Gebhard I and the descent from him is shown as follows:


II. Genealogics cites:


III. Med Lands - This is a more fragmented descent in that, while the individuals are listed, their parent/child connections are not shown or are shown as uncertain. The following generations are shown , with ">>>" indicating no connection shown, though the individuals are listed:
Med Lands offers a few comments on the uncertainties:
     1. Re father of Gebhard I: "Wegener assumes that Adelheid was the widow of Hermann IV Duke of Swabia[1817]. He presumably bases this assumption on a creative interpretation of the 14th century Deutsche Reimchronik of Kloster Kastel which records that Ernst Duke of Swabia (presumably indicating Duke Ernst I, father of Duke Hermann IV) had “ain Suen...Gebhardus...Sultzpach”[1818]. No other primary source has been found which indicates any family relationship between the Babenberger dukes of Swabia and the Grafen von Sulzbach. It is suggested that the Deutsche Reimchronik represents a fantasised version of the connection. In any case, Adelaida di Susa, widow of Duke Hermann IV, was married to Enrico di Monferrato in [early 1042] and in two charters dated the following year is recorded in northern Italy (see the document SWABIA DUKES). It is unlikely therefore that she would have been recorded as holding property in the Bavarian Nordgau around the same time. In addition, if Gebhard had been her son it is likely that he would have claimed the duchy of Swabia at some point."
Here, Med Lands cites:
     2. Re relationship between Gebhard I and Gebhard 2: "Wegener identifies Gebhard [I] with Gebhard who is named as Graf von Sulzbach in 1071, who is shown below as Gebhard [II][1820]. If that is correct, Gebhard [II]’s marriage to Irmgard von Rott must have been his second marriage."
Here, Med Lands cites: [1820] Wegener, W. (1965/67) Genealogischen Tafeln zur mitteleuropäischen Geschichte (Verlag Degener), p. 196


IV. Wikipedia (DE) - Wikipedia (DE) does not show Gebhard I or his father, and has the following comment: "Stammbaum und seine Zuordnungen in der Hauptsache nach Jürgen Dendorfer, [9] ergänzt um Angaben nach Heinz Dopsch – in Klammern und kursiv gesetzt ggf. alte Zählweise und Datumshinweise nach Heinz Dopsch.[10] [10]" [Translation by GA Vaut: "The Family tree and its assignments mainly based on Jürgen Dendorfer, [9] supplemented with information based on Heinz Dopsch - in brackets and italics, if applicable, old counting methods and date references based on Heinz Dopsch. [10]"]. Wikipedia (DE) shows the following descent:
Here, Wikipedia (DE):
[9] Jürgen Dendorfer: Die Grafen von Sulzbach; PDF-Datei S. 11 von 35
[10] Zur Anzahl und Namen ihrer gemeinsamen Kinder Heinz Dopsch: Siedlung und Recht. Zur Vorgeschichte der Berchtesgadener Stiftsgründer. In: Walter Brugger, Heinz Dopsch, Peter F. Kramml (Hrsg.): Geschichte von Berchtesgaden. Bd. 1: Zwischen Salzburg und Bayern (bis 1594). Berchtesgaden 1991, S. 175–228, hier: S. 214 und 221.
[11] Zur Anzahl und Namen ihrer gemeinsamen Kinder siehe Heinz Dopsch: Siedlung und Recht. Zur Vorgeschichte der Berchtesgadener Stiftsgründer, in: Walter Brugger [Hrsg.]: Geschichte von Berchtesgaden. Stift - Markt - Land, Bd. 1, S. 214 und 221


Conclusion: I have chosen to follow the basic lineage shown by Genealogy.EU, building in the information and warnings from the other three sources. GA Vaut.^{16,17,18,19,20} He was Duke of Swabia between 1030 and 1038.²

      ; Duncan of Kilmichael; ancestor of the CAMPBELL Bts of Auchinbreck (qv.)¹

     Hugues IV (?) Comte de Réthel, chevalier, vicomte de was born before 1244.² He married Agnes de Chiny Dame d'Agimont et de Givet before 1268
; his 1st wife.^2,3 Hugues IV (?) Comte de Réthel, chevalier, vicomte de married Marie d'Enghien dame de Thieusies, daughter of Soher/Siger II d'Enghien Lord of Zottghem and Aleidis van Zotteghem, before 1270
; his 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.^2,3 Hugues IV (?) Comte de Réthel, chevalier, vicomte de married Isabelle de Grandpré, daughter of Henri V (?) Comte de Grandpré, Seigneur de Livry and Isabeau de Brienne, on 8 October 1275
; his 3rd wife.^4,1,2,3
Hugues IV (?) Comte de Réthel, chevalier, vicomte de died before 1277; Leo van de Pas says d. bef 1277; Rethel 2 page says d. 1277/90.^1,2
      ; Per Genealogics:
     "Hugues IV, comte de Réthel, son of Manasses IV, comte de Réthel, and Elisabeth d'Ecry, had a dispute with one of his vassals, Gilbert Lewis, seigneur de Lumes, and seized his assets.
     "Hugues married three times. His first wife was Agnès de Chiny, dame d'Agimont, daughter of Louis IV, comte de Chiny, and Mathilde d'Avesnes. They had one daughter who died young. Before 1270 Hugues married Marie d'Enghien, dame de Thieusis, widow of Jean de Brienne and daughter of Sohier II d'Enghien, Heer van Zotteghem, and Aleidis van Zotteghem. There was no progeny from this marriage.
     "Before 8 October 1275 Hugues married Isabelle de Grandpré, daughter of Henri V, comte de Grandpré, and Isabeau de Brienne. Their only child, Jeanne, inherited Réthel and married and had progeny. Hugues IV died before 1277 and his widow married Nicolas de Charbogne."¹

; Cte Hugues IV de Rethel, *before 1244, +ca 1277/90; 1m: before 1268 Agnes de Chiny, Dame d'Agimont et de Givet; 2m: before 1270 Marie d'Enghien; 3m: by 8.10.1275 Isabelle de Grandpré (*after 1237), dau.of Cte Henri V de Grandpré and Isabeau de Brienne.²

; Per Wikipedia:
     "Hugh IV, Count of Rethel (1244–1285) was a son of Manasses V[1] and his wife, Isabelle of Écry. In 1272, he succeeded his father as Count of Rethel.
     "Hugues IV was married to:
     "With Isabelle, he had a daughter, Jeanne, Countess of Rethel, who succeeded him.[2] In 1290, Jeanne married Louis I, Count of Flanders.[2]
References
1. Evergates 2007, p. 252.
2. Vanderkindere 1899, p. 111.
Sources
** Evergates, Theodore (2007). The Aristocracy in the Count of Champagne, 1100-1300. University of Pennsylvania Press.
** Vanderkindere, Léon (1899). "Histoire de la formation territoriale des principautés belges au moyen âge : La Flandre". Bulletin de la Commission royale d'Histoire Année (in French). Librairie Kiessling et Cie: 1-195.⁵

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 626.¹

      ; Archibald; ancestor of the CAMPBELLs of Otter.¹

     Catherine Campbell married Bronnach "The Gluttonous" (?) of Dowart.²

     Manfredo I (?) Count of Susa married Prangarda (?) of Reggio, daughter of AdelbertAttone (?) Marchese of Canossa, in 991.^1,4

      ; Leo van de Pas cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 60.¹ GAV-28 EDV-29 GKJ-30.

     Prangarda (?) of Reggio was born circa 955. She married Manfredo I (?) Count of Susa, son of Ardoino/Ardvino 'Il Glabro' (?) Marchese di Susa i Torino and Emilia|Immula|Vmille (?), in 991.^2,1

      ; Leo van de Pas cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 60.¹ GAV-29 EDV-29 GKJ-30.

     Ardoino/Ardvino 'Il Glabro' (?) Marchese di Susa i Torino married Emilia|Immula|Vmille (?)³

Ardoino/Ardvino 'Il Glabro' (?) Marchese di Susa i Torino died in 972.¹
     GAV-29.

Reference: Leo van de Pas cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 60.¹ Ardoino/Ardvino 'Il Glabro' (?) Marchese di Susa i Torino was also known as Arduin Glabrio (?) of Turin.⁴ He was living between 969 and 987.⁴

     Ruggiero (?) Count of Susa was born circa 860.
Ruggiero (?) Count of Susa died after 910.
     GAV-30.

; Leo van de Pas cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 60.¹

      ; Leo van de Pas cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 60.¹ GAV-31.

     AdelbertAttone (?) Marchese of Canossa was born circa 925.
AdelbertAttone (?) Marchese of Canossa died on 13 February 988.
     GAV-30 EDV-30 GKJ-31.

      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III/3 590.¹

     Sigifredo di Lucca was born circa 895.
Sigifredo di Lucca died in 961.
     GAV-31 EDV-31 GKJ-32.