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     Galiena filia Waldevi (?) married Philip de Moubray.¹

      ; per Ravilious:
Galiena 'filia Waldevi'
coheir of her father

her lands included Inverkeithing and Balmeny

cf. SP III:245[2]

Spouse:     Philip de Moubray

Children:     Roger (->1233)
Ravilious cites: 1. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
2. Sir James Balfour Paul, ed., "The Scots Peerage," Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904-1914 (9 volumes).
3. "Durham Cathedral Muniments: Miscellaneous Charters," Durham University Library Archives & Special Collections, http://flambard.dur.ac.uk:6336/dynaweb/handlist/ddc/dcdmisch/@Generic__BookTextView/10523
4. Joseph Bain, ed., "Calendar of Documents relating to Scotland," Edinburgh: Her Majesty's General Register House, 1881 (Vol. I), full title: Calendar of Documents relating to Scotland, Preserved in Her Majesty's Public Record Office, London.
5. "A History of Cumberland," Vol. I, London: Archibald Constable and Company Limited, Vol. I, Appendix: The Pipe Rolls.
6. Joseph Bain, "Notes on the Trinitarian or Red Friars in Scotland, and on a Recently Discovered Charter of Alexander III. Confirming the Foundation of Houstoun by Cristiana Fraser, widow of Sir Roger de Moubray," Proceedings of the Society of Antiquaries, 12 December 1887, pp. 26 et seq.
7. "Alexander II, King of Scotland," Dictionary of National Biography, New York: MacMillan and Co. (London: Smith, Elder & Co.), Vol. I (1885), pp. 261-264.
8. Joseph Stevenson, "Documents illustrative of the history of Scotland from the death of King Alexander the Third to the Accession of Robert Bruce," Edinburgh: H. M. General Register House, 1870 (Vol. I), 1870 (Vol. II).
9. Rev. Charles Moor, D.D., F.S.A., "Knights of Edward I," Pubs. of the Harleian Society, 1929-1930, 3 Vols. (Vols. 80-83 in series).
10. "Calendar of the Patent Rolls," preserved in the Public Record Office, Edward I. A.D. 1301-1307, London: for the Public Record Office, 1898, (reprinted 1971, Kraus-Thomson, Liechtenstein).
11. W. H. Bliss, ed., "Calendar of Entries in the Papal Registers Relating to Great Britain and Ireland," Papal Letters, Vol. II (A.D. 1305 - 1342), London: for the Public Record Office, 1895, (reprinted 1971, Kraus-Thomson, Liechtenstein).
12. William Fraser, "The Red Book of Menteith," Edinburgh: 1880.pdf image files provided by Genealogy.com www.genealogy.com, history and evidences concerning the Earls and Earldom of Mentieth.¹

     Christiana filia Waldevi (?) married Duncan de Lascelles.¹

     William Foliot married Lady Agnes d'Arches of Appleton, daughter of Osbern d'Arches,
; her 3rd husband.¹
William Foliot died after 1129.¹

     Herbert de St. Quinton married Lady Agnes d'Arches of Appleton, daughter of Osbern d'Arches,
; her 1st husband.¹
Herbert de St. Quinton died in 1369.²

     Richard Foliot married Beatrice Bardolf.¹

Richard Foliot died before 25 July 1206.¹

     Beatrice Bardolf married Richard Foliot, son of Jordan Foliot and Beatrice (?).¹

     Jordan Foliot married Beatrice (?)¹
Jordan Foliot was born circa 1120.²
      ; per Ravilious: "held three fees of Henry de Lacy of Pontefract in 1166."¹

     Beatrice (?) married Jordan Foliot, son of William Foliot.¹

     Jordan Foliot was born circa 1150.²

     William Foliot died before 1166.¹
     He was living between 1143 and 1154.¹

     Sir John de Harcla married Emerade (?)¹

Sir John de Harcla died in 1322.¹
      ; Regarding the family of Sir Michael de Harcla, the Transactions, CWAAS article, "Sir Andrew de Harcla, earl of Carlisle," states that Andrew had at least five brothers;

1). William "who in 1278 is mentioned as son and heir to Michael, who served under Robert de Clifford in Edward 1st army at Falkirk in 1298. In 1286 he had been tried but acquitted of complicity in the murder of Nicholas de Hastings, the only one condemed being the man who shot the fatal arrow."

2). Sir John "who was a soldier like his brother Andrew and closely associated with him. He was deputy sheriff to him at one time, a knight bachelor in 1300 and died in 1322 leaving a widow Ermerade and a son and heir Andrew aged 3 years."

3). Michael "who was summoned as Magister Michael de Harcla (that is a cleric with a university degree) to the parliament of York on Nov. 14, 1322, "appointed thereto by the Bishop of Carlisle as one of his Procurators to appear on his behalf." In 1321 he was one of the Commissioners appointed to treat for peace with Bruce, but on his brother Andrew's arrest he fell under the King's suspicion and his goods were ordered seised on Feb. 1, 1323."

4). Sir James de Harcla and Henri his brother "both of whom died before August 6, 1324. "James de Harcla (who later became a knight) with Sir John de Harcla, Richard de Hoddelstone, Patrick de Culwenne, and 50 men-at-arms, were keeping the Castle of Carlisle in Nov. 1316 (during Sir Andrew's captivity) while Sir Robert de Leybourne (Andrew's brother-in-law) is keeping the town."

5). "Henri was a clerk in the holy orders; he was instituted Rector of Dacre in 1296, but was non-resident, a vicar being appointed with salary."

There were also at least two sisters;

6). Isabel "who married Richard le Fraunces also named de Vernon."

7). Sarah "wife and widow of the oft-mentioned Sir Robert de Leybourne of Cunswick in Westmorland, who was, among other things, "Admiral of the Fleet on the Western sea of Scotland", and died in 1327 or 1328. It was Sarah who was empowered to collect the remains of Sir Andrew and commit them to "ecclesiastical sepulture," five years after his death." Source, Transactions, CWAAS, New Series, Vol. 1929, article, Sir Andrew de Harcla, Earl of Carlisle, pgs. 99-101.

Sir Robert de Leybourne was also MP for Westmorland in 1315, and appointed the Governor of Egremont Castle in 1322, but was stripped of the position a year later. Sarah and Robert de Leybourne had a daughter Eleanor whom married Sir William de Laval, Knt. (of the Seaton Delavals).

Sarah supposedly was first married to Thomas de Musgrave of Musgrave in Westmorland, and had by him Sir Thomas de Musgrave, Knt. (? 1st Lord Musgrave, summoned to parliament in 1350) of Hartley in Westmorland whom married Margaret de Ros of Yolton in Yorkshire.

Can anyone confirm if Sarah de Harcla was indeed the mother of Sir Thomas de Musgrave of Hartley in Westmorland?¹

     Emerade (?) married Sir John de Harcla, son of (?) de Harcla.¹

     Andrew de Harcla died in 1319; aged 3 at his father's deathin 1322.¹

     Sir James de Harcla died before 6 August 1324.¹
      ; Regarding the family of Sir Michael de Harcla, the Transactions, CWAAS article, "Sir Andrew de Harcla, earl of Carlisle," states that Andrew had at least five brothers;

1). William "who in 1278 is mentioned as son and heir to Michael, who served under Robert de Clifford in Edward 1st army at Falkirk in 1298. In 1286 he had been tried but acquitted of complicity in the murder of Nicholas de Hastings, the only one condemed being the man who shot the fatal arrow."

2). Sir John "who was a soldier like his brother Andrew and closely associated with him. He was deputy sheriff to him at one time, a knight bachelor in 1300 and died in 1322 leaving a widow Ermerade and a son and heir Andrew aged 3 years."

3). Michael "who was summoned as Magister Michael de Harcla (that is a cleric with a university degree) to the parliament of York on Nov. 14, 1322, "appointed thereto by the Bishop of Carlisle as one of his Procurators to appear on his behalf." In 1321 he was one of the Commissioners appointed to treat for peace with Bruce, but on his brother Andrew's arrest he fell under the King's suspicion and his goods were ordered seised on Feb. 1, 1323."

4). Sir James de Harcla and Henri his brother "both of whom died before August 6, 1324. "James de Harcla (who later became a knight) with Sir John de Harcla, Richard de Hoddelstone, Patrick de Culwenne, and 50 men-at-arms, were keeping the Castle of Carlisle in Nov. 1316 (during Sir Andrew's captivity) while Sir Robert de Leybourne (Andrew's brother-in-law) is keeping the town."

5). "Henri was a clerk in the holy orders; he was instituted Rector of Dacre in 1296, but was non-resident, a vicar being appointed with salary."

There were also at least two sisters;

6). Isabel "who married Richard le Fraunces also named de Vernon."

7). Sarah "wife and widow of the oft-mentioned Sir Robert de Leybourne of Cunswick in Westmorland, who was, among other things, "Admiral of the Fleet on the Western sea of Scotland", and died in 1327 or 1328. It was Sarah who was empowered to collect the remains of Sir Andrew and commit them to "ecclesiastical sepulture," five years after his death." Source, Transactions, CWAAS, New Series, Vol. 1929, article, Sir Andrew de Harcla, Earl of Carlisle, pgs. 99-101.

Sir Robert de Leybourne was also MP for Westmorland in 1315, and appointed the Governor of Egremont Castle in 1322, but was stripped of the position a year later. Sarah and Robert de Leybourne had a daughter Eleanor whom married Sir William de Laval, Knt. (of the Seaton Delavals).

Sarah supposedly was first married to Thomas de Musgrave of Musgrave in Westmorland, and had by him Sir Thomas de Musgrave, Knt. (? 1st Lord Musgrave, summoned to parliament in 1350) of Hartley in Westmorland whom married Margaret de Ros of Yolton in Yorkshire.

Can anyone confirm if Sarah de Harcla was indeed the mother of Sir Thomas de Musgrave of Hartley in Westmorland?¹

     Henri de Harcla died before 6 August 1324.¹
      ; Regarding the family of Sir Michael de Harcla, the Transactions, CWAAS article, "Sir Andrew de Harcla, earl of Carlisle," states that Andrew had at least five brothers;

1). William "who in 1278 is mentioned as son and heir to Michael, who served under Robert de Clifford in Edward 1st army at Falkirk in 1298. In 1286 he had been tried but acquitted of complicity in the murder of Nicholas de Hastings, the only one condemed being the man who shot the fatal arrow."

2). Sir John "who was a soldier like his brother Andrew and closely associated with him. He was deputy sheriff to him at one time, a knight bachelor in 1300 and died in 1322 leaving a widow Ermerade and a son and heir Andrew aged 3 years."

3). Michael "who was summoned as Magister Michael de Harcla (that is a cleric with a university degree) to the parliament of York on Nov. 14, 1322, "appointed thereto by the Bishop of Carlisle as one of his Procurators to appear on his behalf." In 1321 he was one of the Commissioners appointed to treat for peace with Bruce, but on his brother Andrew's arrest he fell under the King's suspicion and his goods were ordered seised on Feb. 1, 1323."

4). Sir James de Harcla and Henri his brother "both of whom died before August 6, 1324. "James de Harcla (who later became a knight) with Sir John de Harcla, Richard de Hoddelstone, Patrick de Culwenne, and 50 men-at-arms, were keeping the Castle of Carlisle in Nov. 1316 (during Sir Andrew's captivity) while Sir Robert de Leybourne (Andrew's brother-in-law) is keeping the town."

5). "Henri was a clerk in the holy orders; he was instituted Rector of Dacre in 1296, but was non-resident, a vicar being appointed with salary."

There were also at least two sisters;

6). Isabel "who married Richard le Fraunces also named de Vernon."

7). Sarah "wife and widow of the oft-mentioned Sir Robert de Leybourne of Cunswick in Westmorland, who was, among other things, "Admiral of the Fleet on the Western sea of Scotland", and died in 1327 or 1328. It was Sarah who was empowered to collect the remains of Sir Andrew and commit them to "ecclesiastical sepulture," five years after his death." Source, Transactions, CWAAS, New Series, Vol. 1929, article, Sir Andrew de Harcla, Earl of Carlisle, pgs. 99-101.

Sir Robert de Leybourne was also MP for Westmorland in 1315, and appointed the Governor of Egremont Castle in 1322, but was stripped of the position a year later. Sarah and Robert de Leybourne had a daughter Eleanor whom married Sir William de Laval, Knt. (of the Seaton Delavals).

Sarah supposedly was first married to Thomas de Musgrave of Musgrave in Westmorland, and had by him Sir Thomas de Musgrave, Knt. (? 1st Lord Musgrave, summoned to parliament in 1350) of Hartley in Westmorland whom married Margaret de Ros of Yolton in Yorkshire.

Can anyone confirm if Sarah de Harcla was indeed the mother of Sir Thomas de Musgrave of Hartley in Westmorland?¹

      ; Regarding the family of Sir Michael de Harcla, the Transactions, CWAAS article, "Sir Andrew de Harcla, earl of Carlisle," states that Andrew had at least five brothers;

1). William "who in 1278 is mentioned as son and heir to Michael, who served under Robert de Clifford in Edward 1st army at Falkirk in 1298. In 1286 he had been tried but acquitted of complicity in the murder of Nicholas de Hastings, the only one condemed being the man who shot the fatal arrow."

2). Sir John "who was a soldier like his brother Andrew and closely associated with him. He was deputy sheriff to him at one time, a knight bachelor in 1300 and died in 1322 leaving a widow Ermerade and a son and heir Andrew aged 3 years."

3). Michael "who was summoned as Magister Michael de Harcla (that is a cleric with a university degree) to the parliament of York on Nov. 14, 1322, "appointed thereto by the Bishop of Carlisle as one of his Procurators to appear on his behalf." In 1321 he was one of the Commissioners appointed to treat for peace with Bruce, but on his brother Andrew's arrest he fell under the King's suspicion and his goods were ordered seised on Feb. 1, 1323."

4). Sir James de Harcla and Henri his brother "both of whom died before August 6, 1324. "James de Harcla (who later became a knight) with Sir John de Harcla, Richard de Hoddelstone, Patrick de Culwenne, and 50 men-at-arms, were keeping the Castle of Carlisle in Nov. 1316 (during Sir Andrew's captivity) while Sir Robert de Leybourne (Andrew's brother-in-law) is keeping the town."

5). "Henri was a clerk in the holy orders; he was instituted Rector of Dacre in 1296, but was non-resident, a vicar being appointed with salary."

There were also at least two sisters;

6). Isabel "who married Richard le Fraunces also named de Vernon."

7). Sarah "wife and widow of the oft-mentioned Sir Robert de Leybourne of Cunswick in Westmorland, who was, among other things, "Admiral of the Fleet on the Western sea of Scotland", and died in 1327 or 1328. It was Sarah who was empowered to collect the remains of Sir Andrew and commit them to "ecclesiastical sepulture," five years after his death." Source, Transactions, CWAAS, New Series, Vol. 1929, article, Sir Andrew de Harcla, Earl of Carlisle, pgs. 99-101.

Sir Robert de Leybourne was also MP for Westmorland in 1315, and appointed the Governor of Egremont Castle in 1322, but was stripped of the position a year later. Sarah and Robert de Leybourne had a daughter Eleanor whom married Sir William de Laval, Knt. (of the Seaton Delavals).

Sarah supposedly was first married to Thomas de Musgrave of Musgrave in Westmorland, and had by him Sir Thomas de Musgrave, Knt. (? 1st Lord Musgrave, summoned to parliament in 1350) of Hartley in Westmorland whom married Margaret de Ros of Yolton in Yorkshire.

Can anyone confirm if Sarah de Harcla was indeed the mother of Sir Thomas de Musgrave of Hartley in Westmorland?¹

     Sir Robert de Leybourne of Cunswick in Westmorland married Sarah de Harcla, daughter of (?) de Harcla.¹

Sir Robert de Leybourne of Cunswick in Westmorland died between 1327 and 1328.¹
      ; Regarding the family of Sir Michael de Harcla, the Transactions, CWAAS article, "Sir Andrew de Harcla, earl of Carlisle," states that Andrew had at least five brothers;

1). William "who in 1278 is mentioned as son and heir to Michael, who served under Robert de Clifford in Edward 1st army at Falkirk in 1298. In 1286 he had been tried but acquitted of complicity in the murder of Nicholas de Hastings, the only one condemed being the man who shot the fatal arrow."

2). Sir John "who was a soldier like his brother Andrew and closely associated with him. He was deputy sheriff to him at one time, a knight bachelor in 1300 and died in 1322 leaving a widow Ermerade and a son and heir Andrew aged 3 years."

3). Michael "who was summoned as Magister Michael de Harcla (that is a cleric with a university degree) to the parliament of York on Nov. 14, 1322, "appointed thereto by the Bishop of Carlisle as one of his Procurators to appear on his behalf." In 1321 he was one of the Commissioners appointed to treat for peace with Bruce, but on his brother Andrew's arrest he fell under the King's suspicion and his goods were ordered seised on Feb. 1, 1323."

4). Sir James de Harcla and Henri his brother "both of whom died before August 6, 1324. "James de Harcla (who later became a knight) with Sir John de Harcla, Richard de Hoddelstone, Patrick de Culwenne, and 50 men-at-arms, were keeping the Castle of Carlisle in Nov. 1316 (during Sir Andrew's captivity) while Sir Robert de Leybourne (Andrew's brother-in-law) is keeping the town."

5). "Henri was a clerk in the holy orders; he was instituted Rector of Dacre in 1296, but was non-resident, a vicar being appointed with salary."

There were also at least two sisters;

6). Isabel "who married Richard le Fraunces also named de Vernon."

7). Sarah "wife and widow of the oft-mentioned Sir Robert de Leybourne of Cunswick in Westmorland, who was, among other things, "Admiral of the Fleet on the Western sea of Scotland", and died in 1327 or 1328. It was Sarah who was empowered to collect the remains of Sir Andrew and commit them to "ecclesiastical sepulture," five years after his death." Source, Transactions, CWAAS, New Series, Vol. 1929, article, Sir Andrew de Harcla, Earl of Carlisle, pgs. 99-101.

Sir Robert de Leybourne was also MP for Westmorland in 1315, and appointed the Governor of Egremont Castle in 1322, but was stripped of the position a year later. Sarah and Robert de Leybourne had a daughter Eleanor whom married Sir William de Laval, Knt. (of the Seaton Delavals).

Sarah supposedly was first married to Thomas de Musgrave of Musgrave in Westmorland, and had by him Sir Thomas de Musgrave, Knt. (? 1st Lord Musgrave, summoned to parliament in 1350) of Hartley in Westmorland whom married Margaret de Ros of Yolton in Yorkshire.

Can anyone confirm if Sarah de Harcla was indeed the mother of Sir Thomas de Musgrave of Hartley in Westmorland?¹ He was Admiral of the Fleet on the Western sea of Scotland.¹ He was MP for Westmorland in 1315.¹

     Margaret Neville married Sir Richard Huddleston Knt., KB, of Blennerhasser and Upmanby, Cumberland, son of Sir John Huddleston of Millom, Cumberland and Mary Fenwick, before 1477
; her 1st husband.^1,6,3 Margaret Neville married Sir Lancelot Threlkeld Knt., KB, of Yanwath, Westmorland, son of Sir Lancelot Threlkeld Knt., of Threlkeld, Cumberland and Margaret Bromflete, before 1492
; her 2nd husband; no children per Richardson.⁷
Margaret Neville died on 17 October 1498.^1,7
      ; per Verity: "illegitimate."¹

     Sir Richard Huddleston Knt., KB, of Blennerhasser and Upmanby, Cumberland was born in 1440.¹ He married Margaret Neville, daughter of Richard "The Kingmaker" Neville KG, 1st Earl of Warwick, 2nd Earl of Salisbury, before 1477
; her 1st husband.^1,4,2
Sir Richard Huddleston Knt., KB, of Blennerhasser and Upmanby, Cumberland died in 1485 at Battle of Bosworth Field, Leicestershire, England; van de Pas says d. 1483.^1,4,2
      ; van de Pas cites: 1. Burke's Landed Gentry , Reference: 1175
2. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: Q 114387
3. The Royal Lineage of Our Noble and Gentle Families, London, 1884, Foster, Joseph, Reference: 128.⁴

     Margery Conyers was born between 1460 and 1465.¹ She married Sir William Bulmer of Wilton, Yorks. between 1483 and 1485.¹

Margery Conyers died in 1524.¹

     Sir William Bulmer of Wilton, Yorks. was born in 1465.¹ He married Margery Conyers, daughter of Sir John Conyers Knt., KG, of Hornby, Yorks and Lady Alice Neville, between 1483 and 1485.¹

Sir William Bulmer of Wilton, Yorks. died in 1531.¹

     Isabel Lambton married Sir Nicholas Tempest of Stella, 1st Baronet, son of Thomas Tempest and Elizabeth Place.⁵

     Reference: van de Pas cites: The Complete Baronetage, London, 1983. , Cokayne, George Edward, Reference: I 217.²

     Sir Walter Vere married Lucia Bassett.¹
Sir Walter Vere was born in 1405 at Oxford, Oxfordshire, England.¹
Sir Walter Vere died in 1487 at Leicester, Leicestershire, England.¹
      ; per van de Pas: [quote]Someone sent me a fascinating genealogical lineage "produced using the Mormon Family Search PAF software". If this line holds then there may be additional lines for many Americans (and others :-) back to Henry II of England (4) and over 300 lines to Charlemagne

In this line is Sir Euseby Isham 1552/3-1626 who can be found in Gary Boyd Roberts' great book on American presidents as an ancestor of President Thomas Jefferson, however he is also an ancestor of John Marshall 4th Chief Justice of the USA, Thomas Mann Randolph Jr, Governor of Virginia, and General Robert E. Lee.

In this line there are about three generations in question.
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Burke's Extinct Peerage 1866, page 551 shows

Aubrey de Vere, Earl of Oxford married Alice FitzWalter and they had a daugher and two sons Richard his heir, and John d.s.p. 9th Henry V

But the lineage stands and falls on this John d.s.p.
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In the lineage this John was born in 1387 in Oxford, he is given a wife (but no name for her)
They had a son Sir Walter Vere born 1405 in Oxford, died 1487 in Leicester, he married Lucia Bassett.

They had a son Richard married to Isabella Greene and they had a daughter Ellen, who married Thomas Isham
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In Burke's Peerage 1999 page 1518 we find Thomas Isham who married Ellen Vere, daughter of Richard Vere, of Addington.

Can anyone advise whether John dsp really did dsp? Or did he have a son Walter?

With many thanks
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia


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     Lucia Bassett married Sir Walter Vere, son of John de Vere.¹

      ; per van de Pas: [quote]Someone sent me a fascinating genealogical lineage "produced using the Mormon Family Search PAF software". If this line holds then there may be additional lines for many Americans (and others :-) back to Henry II of England (4) and over 300 lines to Charlemagne

In this line is Sir Euseby Isham 1552/3-1626 who can be found in Gary Boyd Roberts' great book on American presidents as an ancestor of President Thomas Jefferson, however he is also an ancestor of John Marshall 4th Chief Justice of the USA, Thomas Mann Randolph Jr, Governor of Virginia, and General Robert E. Lee.

In this line there are about three generations in question.
-----------------------------------------------
Burke's Extinct Peerage 1866, page 551 shows

Aubrey de Vere, Earl of Oxford married Alice FitzWalter and they had a daugher and two sons Richard his heir, and John d.s.p. 9th Henry V

But the lineage stands and falls on this John d.s.p.
---------------------------------------------------------
In the lineage this John was born in 1387 in Oxford, he is given a wife (but no name for her)
They had a son Sir Walter Vere born 1405 in Oxford, died 1487 in Leicester, he married Lucia Bassett.

They had a son Richard married to Isabella Greene and they had a daughter Ellen, who married Thomas Isham
---------------------------------------------------------
In Burke's Peerage 1999 page 1518 we find Thomas Isham who married Ellen Vere, daughter of Richard Vere, of Addington.

Can anyone advise whether John dsp really did dsp? Or did he have a son Walter?

With many thanks
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia


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