Person Page - 1714

      ; Richard, Ld of Ailesford, and of Luddesdon, Kent, one of the Justices in Eyre appointed by HENRY II 1176 to admin. justice throughout the kingdom (Pipe Roll, 22 Hen. II, Kent); m, and had issue.¹

     Osbert Giffard of Luddesdon married Isabel de Frievill.¹

Osbert Giffard of Luddesdon died on 21 August 1229 at dsp.¹
      ; Osbert, of Luddesdon (also styled Osbert Giffard of Norfolk), held in addition to his f's lands the manor of Syde, Glos, of the grant of Osbert Giffard of Brimsfield (Feet of Fines, Various Counties, case 284, file 18, no. 27; Curia Regis Roll 97, 11 Hen. III, rot. 10 d), and land in Stokes, Glos, which he had in exchange with Elias Giffard for quarter of a knight's fee in Ipsden, Oxon (Feet of Fines, Unknown and Divers Counties, 11 Hen. III, case 282, file 8, no. 46), rebelled against JOHN, was taken at the siege of Rochester Castle 1215, and confined in the castle of Corfe (Matthew Paris; Close Roll, 17 John); m Isabel de Frievill (Friville), who had letters of safe conduct to go to the King to speak with him concerning the release of her husband (Patent Roll, 18 John, no. 8) (d his widow), and dsp 21 Aug 1229 (Close Roll, 13 Hen. III).¹

     Mabel Giffard married Adam de Kailly.¹

     Hamon Passelewe married Maud de Barewe, daughter of Thomas de Barewe.¹

     Hamon Passelewe was Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk between 1242 and 1249.¹

     Maud de Barewe married Hamon Passelewe.¹

     Sir John Giffard Knt., of Weston died in 1319.¹
      ; John, Kt, of Boyton, Itchell, Norton, and Weston sub Edge (also styled John Giffard of Weston), s his uncle, Godfrey Giffard (see above). In 1319, he and his bro Hugh conveyed the manor of Barewe to Bartholomew de Badelesmere, Kt (Cal. Close Rolls, 12 Edw. II); d 1319, leaving issue.¹

      ; Hugh (Rev), parson of the church of Barewe (Cal. Close Rolls, 13 Edw. II, 1320).¹

     Alexander Giffard died in 1250 at Battle of Mansoura, Palestine.¹
      ; monument at Boyton.¹ He was crusader, whose sufferings in the Holy Land are related by Matthew Paris circa 1250.¹

      ; Hugh (Rev) (Cal. Patent Rolls, 26 Hen. III, 1242, and 31 Hen. III, 1247).

     William de Ebroicis married Maud Giffard, daughter of Sir Hugh Giffard of Boynston, co. Wilts and Sibel/Sibyl de Cormeilles.¹

William de Ebroicis died in 1265 at Battle of Evesham, Evesham, Worcestershire, England.¹

      ; 4th Earl of Cumberland, KB.¹

     Catherine de Berkeley died; died young.¹

     Mary Berkeley married Nicholas Walsh of Sodbury
; her 1st husband.^1,2,3 Mary Berkeley married William Herbert of Swansea
; her 2nd husband.^1,2,3

     Elizabeth Graham married Sir John Lyon Knt., of Glamis, son of Sir John Lyon Thane of Glamis and Lady Jean Stewart,
; had issue.^1,2

     Sir John Lyon Knt., of Glamis married Elizabeth Graham, daughter of Sir Patrick Graham of Kilpont and Illieston, West Lothian and Euphemia Stewart Countess Palatine of Strathearn, Countess of Caithness,
; had issue.^1,2
Sir John Lyon Knt., of Glamis died circa 1435.²
      ; SIR JOHN LYON, of Glamis, Knighted 1404; m his cousin, Elizabeth, dau of Sir Patrick Graham (and his wife Euphemia, Countess Palatine of Strathern, dau of David, Earl Palatine of Strathern, s of ROBERT II (see MORAY, E), and d c 1435 (bur at Scone), leaving three sons and the est son, PATRICK LYON, 1st Ld Glamis.²

     Lady Jane de Vere married Malise Graham 1st Earl of Menteith, Earl of Strathearn, son of Sir Patrick Graham of Kilpont and Illieston, West Lothian and Euphemia Stewart Countess Palatine of Strathearn, Countess of Caithness,
; his 1st wife; had issue.^1,2
Lady Jane de Vere died after 23 October 1476.²
      ; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VIII 668,670.²

; van de Pas identifies Malise's 1st wife and the mother of his son, Patrick, simply as "Janet" - no mention of "de Vere."²

     Marion Campbell married Malise Graham 1st Earl of Menteith, Earl of Strathearn, son of Sir Patrick Graham of Kilpont and Illieston, West Lothian and Euphemia Stewart Countess Palatine of Strathearn, Countess of Caithness, at had two sons.¹
Marion Campbell married John (?) of Drummond before 1491.¹

     John (?) of Drummond married Marion Campbell, daughter of Sir Colin Campbell of Glenorch, before 1491.¹

     Sir Patrick Graham Knt., of Kincardine, Lord of Dundaff married Matilda (?)¹
Sir Patrick Graham Knt., of Kincardine, Lord of Dundaff married Egidia Stewart, daughter of Sir John Stewart Knt., of Ralston and Alicia Mure, before 1391
; his 2nd wife.^1,6,2
Sir Patrick Graham Knt., of Kincardine, Lord of Dundaff died between 6 May 1400 and 1404.^1,2
      ; Wednesday, 9 November, 2005

The account in SP concerning the Grahams of Montrose provides little concerning most of the wives of this family prior to 1400. In the current instance, the wife of Sir David de Graham (d. bef 4 April 1374) is unidentified.

I have found the dispensation for the marriage of Sir David which identifies his wife, and further highlights her ancestry:


" 1353.
7 Id. Oct. To David de Grame, knight, and Helen, relict
Avignon. of Reginald Chene, knight, of the dioceses of
(f. 448.) Brechin and St. Andrews.
Dispensation, at the request of John, king
of France, to intermarry, they being related
in the fourth degree of kindred. [Theiner, 305.] "[1]


Helen, wife of Sir Reginald le Cheyne, was previously identified as the daughter of Malise, Earl of Strathearn (this from James
Primrose's "Strathbrock or the History and Antiquities of the Parish of Uphall" as I have it). We can now set forth the pedigree based upon the evidence given in this dispensation:


Robert, Earl = NN
of Strathearn I
d. bef 1244 I
___________________________I_____________
I I
Malise, Earl = 1) Matilda Annabela = Sir Patrick
of Strathearn I of Orkney I de Graham
d. bef 23 Nov I I k. 1296
1271 I I
________I ______ ___I______
I I I
Malise = Marjory Sir David Graham NN = Sir
E of Strathearn I Comyn d. 1329 Malcolm
d. 1312 I I Drummond
_____________I ____I_________________
I I I
Malise = 1) NN Sir David Graham Margaret
E of Strathearn I d. ca. 1330 = Hugh
d. 1328 I I E of Ross
I_______ I______
I I
1) Sir Reginald = Helen of = 2) Sir David
le Cheyne I Strathearn I de Graham
d bef 1353 I I d. 1371
V I
I
Sir Patrick Graham
1st Lord Graham
d. aft 6 May 1400


On a related note, Sir Patrick Graham, Lord Graham (d. 1400) is identified in a charter of 1391 as a cousin of King Robert III [2]. This has been explained by two known marital relationships:

1. Sir Patrick’s 2nd wife was Egidia Stewart, a 1st cousin
of the King. The date of this marriage is unknown, but
likely occurred before 1391.

2. Sir Patrick was a 3rd cousin of Annabela Drummond,
Robert III’s wife, by common descent from Sir Patrick de
Graham and Annabela of Strathearn [see chart above].

Another interesting possibility: Sir Patrick’s mother, Helen of Strathearn, may actually have been a daughter of Earl Malise (d. 1328) by his 2nd wife, Joanna de Menteith, instead of his unknown 1st wife. If this were correct, Sir Patrick would have been a 4th cousin of King Robert III, by common descent from Alexander the Steward (d. 1283). [I should note, Andrew MacEwen has pointed out that the chronology does not work well with this hypothesis.]

Cheers, John *

NOTES

[1] Bliss,ed. Calendar of Entries in the Papal Registers
relating to Great Britain and Ireland: Papal Letters,
Vol. III (A.D. 1342 - 1362) [London: PRO, 1897, reprinted 1971], p. 514.

[2] Sir Thomas of Erskine, Sir Patrick of Graham,and Sir Robert of
Danielston, the King's cousins and knights..' witnessed together
with others,
' A Charter under the Great Seal granted by Robert III, King of
Scotland to his cousin David Fleming of £50 sterling of annual
rent due to him by religious men...dated at Scone, 14th March
1391.' [Charter Chest of the Earls of Wigtown, p. 101, no. 847 - 'cf. Reg. Mag. Sig. folio vol. p. 200']

* John P. Ravilious.²











; Friday, 11 November, 2005

Two items (one a slight correction) to the first post in this thread:

1. Sir Patrick Graham (d. aft 6 May 1400), son of Sir David de Graham and Helen of Strathearn, was 'dominus de Graham' or lord of Graham, but he was NOT the first "Lord Graham" (i.e. of the peerage created in 1445). That Patrick Graham was in fact his great-grandson.

2. An argument could be raised as to whether Patrick was the son of Helen of Strathearn. Aside from Helen being the only known wife of Sir David, the chronology certainly works (Sir David and Helen married by dispensation in 1353, followed by Patrick being married 24 Aug 1372 or before - see SP VI:214) for Patrick to have been their son.

There is onomastic support for this identification. Sir Patrick had by his 2nd wife Egidia Stewart a son Sir Patrick Graham, who was m. ca. 1406 to Euphemia Stewart, heiress of her father David Stewart, Earl of Strathearn (a son of King Robert II). The eldest son and heir of this Sir Patrick and Countess Euphemia was Malise Graham, later Earl of Strathearn, whose career is interwoven with the assassination of King James I in 1437. The introduction of the name Malise into the Graham family can be traced directly to Malise Graham's paternal great-grandmother, Helen of Strathearn.

Sorry for any confusion caused by the first issue.

Cheers, John.⁷

; SIR PATRICK GRAHAM, of Kincardine, Kt, Ld of Dundaff and Knight-Banneret, became one of the hostages by which the release of the KING, DAVID II, was eventually accomplished. Sir Patrick m 1st, Matilda, and had issue a s and a dau. Sir Patrick m 2nd, Egidia, dau of Sir John Stewart, of Ralston, Kt, bro of ROBERT II, KING OF SCOTS (see MORAY, E), by whom he had four sons. Sir Patrick was a Commr to treaty with the English 30 Aug 1394, and d before 1404, when he was s by his est son.¹

     Egidia Stewart married Sir Patrick Graham Knt., of Kincardine, Lord of Dundaff, son of Sir David Graham of Kincardine and Elen de Abernethy, before 1391
; his 2nd wife.^1,2,4
      ; van de Pas cites: 1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938, Reference: page 1775
2. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: vol I page 213.²

     Sir John Stewart Knt., of Ralston married Alicia Mure.

     Matilda (?) married Sir Patrick Graham Knt., of Kincardine, Lord of Dundaff, son of Sir David Graham of Kincardine and Elen de Abernethy.¹