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     Elizabeth Hay died circa March 1576; Her will was confirmed 26 March 1576.^1,2

     William Abernethy 5th Lord Saltoun married Lady Elizabeth Hay, daughter of William Hay 4th Earl of Erroll and Christian Lyon, in 1512
; Burke's Peerage (Saltoun Family Page) points out that there is a confusion as to which Elizabeth Hay married William, 5th Lord Saltoun.⁵
William Abernethy 5th Lord Saltoun died in December 1543.⁵
      ; WILLIAM, 5th Ld Saltoun; m 1512, Lady Elizabeth Hay (will confirmed 26 March 1576), dau of 4th Earl of Erroll (see that title), or according to other authorities, Elizabeth, dau of 2nd Ld Hay of Yester (see TWEEDDALE, M). He d Dec 1543, having had issue.⁵ He was 5th Lord Saltoun.¹

     Sir Thomas Hay of Locherworth and Yester died between February 1433 and 1434; died unmarried.¹

      ; ancestor of HAY, Bt, of Alderston.¹

     Jean/Janet Hay married Sir Alexander Home Lord Home.^1,2

     Ralph (VIII) de Cromwell 3rd Lord Cromwell married Margaret Deincourt, daughter of John Deincourt 5th Lord Deincourt, 12th Lord d'Eyncourt and Joane Grey.^1,2
Ralph (VIII) de Cromwell 3rd Lord Cromwell was born circa 1403.¹
Ralph (VIII) de Cromwell 3rd Lord Cromwell died between 4 January 1454 and 1455; dsp.¹
     He was 3rd Lord (Baron) Cromwell.¹

; RALPH (VIII) de CROMWELL, 3rd Lord (Baron) Cromwell, PC (1422); b c 1403; Ld High Treas 1433-43, fndr of the college of Tattershall and builder of the Castle there 1440, Master King's Mews and Falcons 1436; a suspected Yorkist; m by 4 July 1424 Margaret (dsp 15 Sept 1454), dau of John, Lord Deincourt, and dsp 4 Jan 1454/5, when the Barony fell into abeyance (according to later doctrine) between his two nieces and coheirs.¹

     Alice Hay married Gilbert Hay of Erroll, Younger.²

     Elizabeth Hay married Duncan Macdowal of Makerstown.¹

     Walter Fitz Walter was born in 1275.¹ He married Joan Engaine, daughter of Sir John I d'Engaine and Joan de Greinville, in 1286.¹

Walter Fitz Walter died in 1293.¹

     Sir John Cantelupe of Hempston Cantelupe, Devon married Margaret de Mohun.⁴

Sir John Cantelupe of Hempston Cantelupe, Devon died between 1323 and 1324; 17th Edward II.²
      ; of Hempston Cantelupe, Devon, and Snitterfield, Warwicks.¹

     Thomas de West 2nd Lord West was born in 1392.¹ He married Ida de St. Amand, daughter of Amauri de St. Amand 3rd Lord (Baron) St Amand and Alainore (?), before 2 July 1406.^1,5

Thomas de West 2nd Lord West died on 30 September 1416; dsp from injuries received in a sea battle.¹
     He was 2nd LORD (Baron) WEST.¹

; THOMAS WEST, 2nd LORD (Baron) WEST; b 1392; ktd 1413, in HENRY V's retinue for the campaign of 1415 and fought at Agincourt; m by 2 July 1406 Ida de St Amand (d 6 Nov 1416), yr dau and coheir of 3rd Lord (Baron) St Amand of the 1313 cr, and dsp 29/30 Sept 1416 from injuries received in a sea battle.¹

     Ida de St. Amand married Thomas de West 2nd Lord West, son of Sir Thomas West Knt., 1st Lord West, of Oakhanger, Hants and Joan la Warre, before 2 July 1406.^1,2

Ida de St. Amand died on 6 November 1416.¹
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
     1. Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques. 420
     2. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard. 465.²

     Robert Fitz Walter died; died an infant.¹ He was born in 1291.¹

     Joan de Multon married Sir Robert Fitz Walter Knt., 2nd Lord Fitzwalter, son of Sir Robert fitz Walter Knt., 1st Lord Fitz Walter, of Little Dunmow, Essex and Lady Alianore de Ferrers,
; his 2nd wife.^1,6,2,3 Joan de Multon was born circa 1304; Richardson says "aged 30 in 1334."^2,3
Joan de Multon died on 16 June 1363.^1,2,3
Joan de Multon was buried after 16 June 1363 at Dunmow Priory, Little Dunmow, co. Essex, England.³
     GKJ-18.

; van de Pas cites: 1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 475
2. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 212.² Joan de Multon was also known as Joan Multon.²

     Helen Villiers married Sir John (the Younger) Fitzwilliam Esq., of Green's Norton, Northamptonshire, son of Sir John Fitzwilliam Knt., of Sprotborough, co. Yorks. and Eleanor Greene of Drayton, Northants.^1,2
Helen Villiers was born circa 1430.¹

     Sir Robert de Lathom of Lathom, co. Lancs. married Amicia de Alfreton, daughter of Robert de Alfreton of Alfreton and Norton, co. Derbys. and Agnes (?), before 16 July 1252
; his 1st wife
Ravilious cites:
4. "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516," www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/.² Sir Robert de Lathom of Lathom, co. Lancs. married Joan de Millom, daughter of Adam de Millom of Millom, Cumberland, before 1260
; his 2nd wife, her 2nd husband
Ravilious cites:
4. William Farrer and J. Brownbill, M. A., eds., "The Victoria
History of the County of Lancaster," London: A. Constable and
Company, Ltd., 1906-1914, Vol. III:249-250, text provided by
Douglas McDonald, Alfreton>, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, 23 January 2005.
      ; Subject:
Lathom and Huddleston: descents from Godard de Boiville
From:
Therav3@aol.com
Date:
Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:40:37 EST
To:
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com

Monday, 24 January, 2005

Dear Doug, et al.,

Many thanks for your post of yesterday, including the relevant
text from VCH (Lancs.) concerning Robert de Lathom. The text of the
article does not itself rule out the previously alleged Alfreton
descent, stating re: Amicia de Alfreton that "she probably died
without issue, as these manors [Alfreton & c.] did not remain with
the Lathom family." However, given the subsequent release by Robert
de Lathom of his rights in the lordship of Alfreton to Thomas de
Chaworth, this seems most likely. Add to this that Amicia de
Alfreton was most likely born say 1200-1215 (her nephew Thomas de
Chaworth was born say 1225) and that Sir Robert de Lathom [her previously alleged son] died ca. 1325, it does seem most likely that
Sir Robert was the son of Joan de Millom as stated in the VCH account
and elsewhere [1].

A beneficial outgrowth of this research is that the ancestry of
Joan de Millom, given in the detailed pedigree below, can now be
appended to that of the Lathoms of Lathom. Joan de Millom married
1stly John de Huddleston, a member of a junior branch of the
Huddlestons of Huddleston [2]. The manor of Millom descended to her
issue by that marriage. Her 2nd marriage to Robert de Lathom is not
noted by Clay, nor does it receive mention in the VCH account which
Doug has provided; however, evidence of the association of John
de Huddleston (son or grandson of Joan by her 1st husband) with
Sir Robert de Lathom (her son by her 2nd) is found in the following
document, which they both witnessed:

Quitclaim of all services due from the manor of Barton, 13 Apr 1304:

(1) Lord William of Clifton

(2) John of Barton

Which (2) and his heirs hold of (1), reserving to (1) the rights of
taking dead wood from the common woods in Barton (except from Barton
park and the woods in Barton fields), for burning, building and
fencing at Sir William's messuages at Clifton, and of keeping fifty
pigs in the wood called Stockorheuid.
Witnesses: Lord John of Hodeliston [Hoddleston], Lord Robert of Lathum
[Lathom], Lord Henry of Kyghley [Keighley], Sir William Banaster,
knight, Thomas Travers, sheriff of Lancashire, Richard de Hoghton,
Gilbert of Singelton [Singleton], William of Sotheworth [Southworth].
Given at Lancaster, the Monday before the feast of Tibertius and
Valerianus, 32 Edward I [3]


In addition to the descent of Joan de Millom from Godard de
Boiville, this pedigree reflects in part the following relationships (1st
and 2nd marriages for Sir Robert de Lathom noted <1> and <2>):


Adam de Millom
(or de Boiville)
I_____ _____________
I I I
I <2> <1> I I
1) John de = Joan de = 2) Sir Robert = Amicia de Alice de
Huddleston I Millom I de Lathom Alfreton Alfreton
d. ca. 1252 I I m. bef 1260 (dsp) = William de
I I Chaworth
I I I
Sir John de Sir Robert de Lathom I
Huddleston d. 1325 I
(fl. 1304 ?) I I
I I I
V V V
from whom, from whom, from whom,
HUDDLESTON of LATHOM of Lathom, CHAWORTH
Millom STANLEY of Lathom & c. of Alfreton
and Wiverton


Again, thanks to Doug McDonald for his efforts in researching
this relationship. Any comment, criticism or relevant documentation
concerning the above is welcome, as always.

Cheers, John *

NOTES (to post):

[1] William Farrer and J. Brownbill, M.A., eds., The Victoria History
of the County of Lancaster [London: A. Constable and Company, Ltd.], III:249-250. See also R. Bodine, The Ancestry of Dorothea
Poyntz.

[2] Sir Charles Clay, ed., "Early Yorkshire Families," The Yorkshire
Archaeological Society, Record Series), 1973, Vol. CXXXV, pp. 7,
46.

[3] A2A, Lancashire Record Office: Papers of the Kay Shuttleworth
Family of Gawthorpe [DDKS 1 - DDKS 16], DDKS 1/4
http://www.a2a.org.uk.² GAV-20.

; Sir Robert de Lathom of Lathom, co. Lancs.
' Sir Robert Lathum of Knowsley ', Sheriff of Lancashire, 1249 - 1255, 1264 - 1265 [3]

Charters for a market (Mon) and fair [vfm, Margaret (20 Jul)] granted 16 Jul 1252, by King Henry III to Robert de Lathun and Thomas de Chaworthe and their heirs (CChR, 1226-57, p. 400), to be held at the manor of Alfreton, co. Derbys.[4]

' Robert filius Ricardi dominus de Lathum', gave a charter to Burscough priory for his land in Anleshargh called 'Swynleyhurst' [Mon. Angl. VI(1):459, Num. I[1]]

' Grant: Robert, lord of Lathun, in his independent power and full health, to Henry his son -- all the vills of Quithul and Wadaker -- rendering a pair of gloves. Witn. William, lord of Paverton, Alan lord of Windhul, Thurstan of Holand, William of Molyneus. ' - A2A, Lancashire Record Office: The Scarisbrick Muniments [DDSC 1 - DDSC 43A], DDSC 37/1[2]

' Confirmation: Robert son of Richard of Lathum to Walter of Scharesbrec -- Hurlton and Scharesbrec, which Simon of Grubbeshevet gave to Gilbert his brother -- rendering yearly 8/- ancient ferm. Witn. Gilbert, lord of Halsal, Henry, lord of Thorboc, Alan of Windul, Alan the Norrays, Robert Walens', John Walens', Madoc of Acton, Roger of Holand. ' [Heraldic seal. SIG' ROBERT DOMINI D .... ] - A2A, Lancashire Record Office: The Scarisbrick Muniments [DDSC 1 - DDSC 43A], DDSC 26/5[2]

' Robert, lord of Lathum ', witness to grant by Walter of Scharisbreck to Burscogh Priory of part of his land in Schares - A2A, Lancashire Record Office: The Scarisbrick Muniments [DDSC 1 - DDSC 43A], DDSC 26/6[2]

Spouse: Amicia de Alfreton
Father: Robert de Alfreton, of Alfreton and Norton, co. Derbys.
Mother: Agnes
Marr: bef 16 Jul 1252[4]

Children: Sir Robert (-<1328)
Richard (->1320)
Henry

Ravilious cites:
2. "Access to Archives," http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk/
3. "The Occupants of The Ancient office of High Sheriff of the County of Lancashire from 1160 to 1603," http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/Documents/sheriffs_of_lancashire.htm
4. "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516," www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/.¹ Sir Robert de Lathom of Lathom, co. Lancs. was Sheriff of Lancashire between 1249 and 1255.³ He was Sheriff of Lancashire between 1264 and 1265.³

     Humphrey Fitz Walter 6th Lord Fitz Walter was born on 18 October 1398.¹
Humphrey Fitz Walter 6th Lord Fitz Walter died on 1 September 1415 at age 16; died unmarried.¹
     He was 6th Lord (Baron) FitzWalter.¹

     Joan de Kilpeck married Philip de Marmion, son of Robert "The Younger" de Marmion of Tanfield, Yorkshire and Juliane de Vassey.

     Anne Calthorp married Henry Radcliffe KG, KB, PC, 11th Lord FitzWalter, 2nd Earl of Sussex, son of Robert Radcliffe KB, KG, 10th Lord Fitz Walter, 1st Earl of Sussex and Lady Elizabeth Stafford Lady Fitz Walter, before 21 November 1538.¹
Anne Calthorp and Henry Radcliffe KG, KB, PC, 11th Lord FitzWalter, 2nd Earl of Sussex were divorced before 13 November 1555.¹

     Sir Humphrey Radcliffe of Elstow, Bedfordshire married Isabel Harvey, daughter of Edmond Harvey of Elstow, Bedfordshire.¹

Sir Humphrey Radcliffe of Elstow, Bedfordshire died in 1556.¹

     Lady Anne Radcliffe married Sir Thomas Wharton PC, 2nd Baron Wharton in May 1547.^1,3,2

Lady Anne Radcliffe died on 7 June 1561.²
      ; van de Pas cites: 1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, Reference: 1019
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: XII 600.²

     Sir Thomas Wharton PC, 2nd Baron Wharton was born in 1520.² He married Lady Anne Radcliffe, daughter of Robert Radcliffe KB, KG, 10th Lord Fitz Walter, 1st Earl of Sussex and Lady Margaret Stanley, in May 1547.^1,2,3

Sir Thomas Wharton PC, 2nd Baron Wharton died on 14 June 1572.²
      ; THOMAS WHARTON, 2nd Baron Wharton, PC (1553); b 1520; ktd 1545, MP Cumberland 1545-52 and 1553, Hedon 1554 and Northumberland 1555, 1558 and 1559, Sheriff Cumberland 1547-48, Master Queen's Henchmen 1553-58, memb Cncl North 1558; imprisoned Tower of London for illegal religious activities, presumably Catholicism, June-July 1561 but was too prudent to take part on either side in the 1569 Rebellion of the Northern Earls (see NORTHUMBERLAND, D, and ABERGAVENNY, M); m May 1547 Lady Anne Radcliffe (d 7 June 1561), dau of 1st Earl of Sussex (see FITZWALTER, B), and d 14 June 1572, having had, with three daus: PHILIP WHARTON, 3rd Baron Wharton.² He was 2nd Baron Wharton of the 1543/4 cr.^1,2

     Sir John Radcliffe died; dsp.¹