Edward Grimston1

M, #51031, d. 23 September 1478
Last Edited17 Dec 2012
     Edward Grimston married Philippe Tiptoft, daughter of Sir John de Tibetot Knt., KB, 1st Baron Tibetot and Joyce de Cherleton, on 26 August 1472 at Eye, co. Suffolk, England,
; her 3rd husband; his 3rd wife.1,2
Edward Grimston died on 23 September 1478.2

Family

Philippe Tiptoft b. c 1423

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Ros Family Page - see VERULAM, E. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Roos 13: p. 614. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Isabel de Ros1,2

F, #51032
FatherSir Thomas de Ros Knt., 9th Lord de Ros of Helmsley1,2 b. 9 Sep 1427, d. 17 May 1464
MotherPhilippe Tiptoft1,2 b. c 1423
Last Edited17 Dec 2012
     Isabel de Ros married Sir Thomas Lovell Kg.1,2
Isabel de Ros married Sir Thomas Everingham Knt.2
Isabel de Ros married Sir Thomas Grey Knt.2

Family 1

Sir Thomas Grey Knt.

Family 2

Sir Thomas Everingham Knt.

Family 3

Sir Thomas Lovell Kg

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Ros Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Roos 13: p. 614. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Edmund de Ros 10th Lord de Ros of Helmsley1,2

M, #51034, d. 15 October 1508
FatherSir Thomas de Ros Knt., 9th Lord de Ros of Helmsley1,2 b. 9 Sep 1427, d. 17 May 1464
MotherPhilippe Tiptoft1,2 b. c 1423
Last Edited17 Dec 2012
     Edmund de Ros 10th Lord de Ros of Helmsley died on 15 October 1508 at dsp unmarried.1
      ; 4th Earl of Cumberland, KB.1

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Ros Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Roos 13: p. 614. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Eleanor de Ros1,2

F, #51035, b. 1449, d. 1487
FatherSir Thomas de Ros Knt., 9th Lord de Ros of Helmsley1,3,4,5,2 b. 9 Sep 1427, d. 17 May 1464
MotherPhilippe Tiptoft1,4,5,2 b. c 1423
Last Edited17 Dec 2012
     Eleanor de Ros was born in 1449.4,5 She married Sir Robert Manners Knt., of Etal, Northumberland, son of Robert Manners Esq., of Etal, Northumberland and Joane (Anne) Ogle, after 13 June 1469
; date of license.6,3,7,8,4,9,5,2
Eleanor de Ros died in 1487.3,4
      ; van de pas cites: 1.Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques, Reference: 435,1009
2. [S00119] The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: Q 98648.4 Eleanor de Ros was also known as Eleanor Roos.5 Eleanor de Ros was also known as Eleonore Ros.4

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Ros Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Roos 13.i: p. 615. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Rutland Family Page.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleonore Ros: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00052477&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Manners 12: p. 489.
  6. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Ros Family Page - see RUTLAND, D.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Robert Manners: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00052476&tree=LEO
  8. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Bladen: p. 110.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Robert Manners: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00052476&tree=LEO
  10. [S1805] Louise Staley, "Staley email #3 3 Aug 2005 "EDWARD III to Roger CORBET of Albright Hussey 11 Ways (1)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Staley email #3 3 Aug 2005."

Sir Robert Manners Knt., of Etal, Northumberland1,2,3

M, #51036, d. 1495
FatherRobert Manners Esq., of Etal, Northumberland6,2,3 b. c 1408, d. 1461
MotherJoane (Anne) Ogle4,5,2,3
Last Edited17 Dec 2012
     Sir Robert Manners Knt., of Etal, Northumberland married Eleanor de Ros, daughter of Sir Thomas de Ros Knt., 9th Lord de Ros of Helmsley and Philippe Tiptoft, after 13 June 1469
; date of license.1,7,5,2,8,9,3,10
Sir Robert Manners Knt., of Etal, Northumberland died in 1495.7,5
      ; van der Pas cites: 1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938, Reference: Page 2148
2. Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques, Reference: 435
3. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: Q 98647.5

; Sir ROBERT MANNERS, JP (1485), of Etal; Sheriff Northumberland 1463, 1465 and 1485, ktd 1485; m (licence 13 June 1469) Eleanor (d 1487), est dau of 9th Lord (Baron) De Ros of Helmsley (see DE ROS, B), by which marriage Belvoir Castle, among other possessions, came to the Manners family, and d 1495, having had, with a yr s (Edward) and three daus (Elizabeth, m Sir William Fairfax, of Steeton Castle, Yorks, Justice Common Pleas (see FAIRFAX OF CAMERON, L); Dorothy, m Thomas Fairfax; Cicely, m Thomas Fairfax, bro of the Sir William Fairfax mentioned above): GEORGE MANNERS.7

Family

Eleanor de Ros b. 1449, d. 1487
Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Ros Family Page - see RUTLAND, D. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Bladen: p. 110. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Manners 12: p. 489.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joane (Anne) Ogle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00052475&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Robert Manners: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00052476&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Robert Manners: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00052474&tree=LEO
  7. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Rutland Family Page.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleonore Ros: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00052477&tree=LEO
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Robert Manners: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00052476&tree=LEO
  10. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Roos 13.i: p. 615.
  11. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Ros Family Page.
  12. [S1805] Louise Staley, "Staley email #3 3 Aug 2005 "EDWARD III to Roger CORBET of Albright Hussey 11 Ways (1)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Staley email #3 3 Aug 2005."

Henry Manners KG, 13th Lord de Ros of Helmsley, 2nd Earl of Rutland1

M, #51037, b. 23 September 1526, d. 17 September 1563
FatherThomas Manners KG, PC, 12th Lord de Ros of Helmsley, 1st Earl of Rutland1,2 b. b 1492, d. 20 Sep 1543
MotherEleanor Paston1,3 d. 1551
Last Edited23 Jul 2017
     Henry Manners KG, 13th Lord de Ros of Helmsley, 2nd Earl of Rutland was born on 23 September 1526.4 He married Margaret Neville, daughter of Ralph Neville KG, Lord Neville, 4th Earl of Westmorland and Lady Catherine Stafford, on 3 July 1536.4
Henry Manners KG, 13th Lord de Ros of Helmsley, 2nd Earl of Rutland married Hon. Bridget Hussey, daughter of John Hussey 1st (last) Lord Hussey of Sleaford and Lady Anne Grey, between January 1560 and March 1560
; her 2nd husband.5,4,6
Henry Manners KG, 13th Lord de Ros of Helmsley, 2nd Earl of Rutland died on 17 September 1563 at age 36.4
     He was 2nd Earl of Rutland.4 He was 13th Lord (Baron) de Ros of Helmsley.4

; HENRY MANNERS, 2nd Earl of Rutland and 13th LORD (Baron) DE ROS OF HELMSLEY, KG (1559), JP (Notts Feb 1553/4); b 23 Sept 1526; ktd 1544, envoy France 1546 and 1551, Constable Nottingham Castle and Warden Sherwood Forest 1547, Warden East and Middle Marches 1549-51, Jt Ld Lt Lincs and Notts 1551, Ld Lt: Notts 1552-63 and Rutland 1559-63; supported LADY JANE GREY on death of EDWARD VI and briefly imprisoned by MARY in consequence, but soon restored to favour; Adml 1556, Capt Gen Horse Picardy Jan 1557/8, Ld Pres Cncl of North Jan 1560/1, Ecclesiastical Commr Province of York 1561; m 1st 3 July 1536 Lady Margaret Nevill(e) (d 13 Oct 1559), dau of 4th Earl of Westmorland (see ABERGAVENNY, M). The 2nd Earl m 2nd between Jan and March 1559/60 Bridget (m 3rd 1566, as his 2nd w, 2nd Earl of Bedford (see BEDFORD, D) and dsp 12 Jan 1600/1), est dau of 1st and last Lord (Baron) Hussey of the 1529 cr and widow of Sir Richard Morrison, and d 17 Sept 1563.4

Family 1

Margaret Neville b. 1518, d. 13 Oct 1559

Family 2

Hon. Bridget Hussey b. 1526, d. 12 Jan 1600

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Ros Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas Manners, 1st Earl of Rutland: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00052459&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleanor Paston: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00052460&tree=LEO
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Rutland Family Page.
  5. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Bedford Family Page.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hon. Bridget Hussey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00105850&tree=LEO

Richard de Harcourt Sire d'Harcourt1

M, #51038
Last Edited1 Oct 2002

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Falmouth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

John le Despenser1

M, #51039, d. 1275
FatherGeoffrey le Despenser of Martley, co. Worcester1,2 d. 1251
Last Edited8 Sep 2014
     John le Despenser married Joan le Lou, daughter of Robert le Lou of Castle Carlton.1

John le Despenser died in 1275; dsp.1

Family

Joan le Lou d. b 1266

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Falmouth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2204] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 9 Dec 2007: "Re: #Geoffrey / Galfridus le Despenser Lord Marcheley"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 Dec 2007, Something rang a distant bell this evening while reading the Registrum de Panmure, and I noted in the archives your query of old as to Sibyl/Sibilla de Valoines, wife of Robert de Stuteville. Leaving the other problematic Sibyls in the cave for the moment, this kinswoman can now be identified as the daughter (not sister) of Philip de Valoines, chamberlain of Scotland (d. 1215). From the Bodleian library we have the following charter:

    ' Charta Philippi de Valonijs, Rob. de Stutevill.

    UNIVERSIS sancte matris ecclesie filijs, Philippus de Valonijs, salutem. Sciant presentes et futuri me dedisse et concessisse et carta mea confirmasse Roberto de Stutevill, et Sibille filie mee, et heredibus quos predictus Robertus de Stutevill habebit de predicta Sibilla sponsa sua, villam de Torpenhon, in maritagium, per rectas divisas suas, et cum
    omnibus justis pertinentijs suis, et in ecclesia et in molendino et in omnibus aliis justis pertinentiis suis illis et predictis heredibus, quos habebit de predicta Sibilla sponsa sua, Tenendam de me et heredibus meis, ita libere, quiete, plenarie, integre, et honorifice, sicut predictam terram melius, plenius et quietius tenui die quo predictam Sibillam filiam meam duxit in uxorem. Hijs testibus, Radulfo abbate de Jeddewrth, Roberto archidiacono Glascuiensi, Willielmo Giffart, Roberto de Landeles, Roberto de Sancto Michaele, Bernardo de Hawedane, Johanne de Wiltune, Simone de Hawic, Alano de Ruele, Hugone de Ruwerfort, Gilleberto de Maltalent, Radulfo de Alneto, Anketino filio Durandi, Radulpho de la Ferte, Willielmo de Solum.' [1]

    If the other Sibyl de Valoines (wife of Robert de Ros, et al.) is of the same immediate family, she must have been a sister of Philip et al. Of course, she could be a cousin. The other (?) issue of note, it appears that Torpenhow, Cumbs. was the property of Sibyl/Sibilla, wife of Philip de Valoines. This may assist in identifying her family (unfortunately the VCH for Cumberland isn't there yet).. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 9 Dec 2007."

Joan le Lou1

F, #51040, d. before 1266
FatherRobert le Lou of Castle Carlton1
Last Edited1 Oct 2002
     Joan le Lou married John le Despenser, son of Geoffrey le Despenser of Martley, co. Worcester.1

Joan le Lou died before 1266.1

Family

John le Despenser d. 1275

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Falmouth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Robert le Lou of Castle Carlton1

M, #51041
Last Edited1 Oct 2002

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Falmouth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Roese le Despenser1

F, #51042
FatherThomas le Despenser1,2,3 d. c 1207
MotherRecuara (?)
ReferenceGAV21
Last Edited5 Sep 2019
     Roese le Despenser married Sir Stephen de Segrave Knt., Lord of Segrave, of Segrave, Leicestershire, son of Gilbert de Segrave Lord of Segrave,
; his 1st wife.1,2
     GAV-21. Roese le Despenser was also known as Rohesia le Despenser.4

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Falmouth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Segrave of Isfield Place Family Page.
  3. [S2204] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 9 Dec 2007: "Re: #Geoffrey / Galfridus le Despenser Lord Marcheley"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 Dec 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 9 Dec 2007."
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Segrave Family Page.
  5. [S1637] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 13 May 2004: "Possible Identification of Juliana, wife of Robert de Chaucombe"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/fVGUjhV53I8/m/txhvX4TJk2oJ) to e-mail address, 13 May 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 13 May 2004."

Sir Stephen de Segrave Knt., Lord of Segrave, of Segrave, Leicestershire1,2,3

M, #51043, b. circa 1182, d. before 16 October 1241
FatherGilbert de Segrave Lord of Segrave4 d. b Sep 1201
ReferenceGAV21 EDV23
Last Edited22 Mar 2009
     Sir Stephen de Segrave Knt., Lord of Segrave, of Segrave, Leicestershire married Roese le Despenser, daughter of Thomas le Despenser and Recuara (?),
; his 1st wife.1,5 Sir Stephen de Segrave Knt., Lord of Segrave, of Segrave, Leicestershire married Ida de Hastings, daughter of Sir William de Hastings Knt. and Margaret Bigod,
; his 2nd wife; her 1st husband.4,5 Sir Stephen de Segrave Knt., Lord of Segrave, of Segrave, Leicestershire was born circa 1182; of age by 1200.4
Sir Stephen de Segrave Knt., Lord of Segrave, of Segrave, Leicestershire died before 16 October 1241.1,4,2,3
      ; STEPHEN de SEGRAVE; of age by 1200; Keeper: Sauvey Castle June 1220, Essex and Herts Nov 1220, the Honour of Boulogne Dec 1220, Lincs March 1221/2, Hedingham Castle, Essex, March 1221/2, Lincoln Castle and Lincs Dec 1223, Hertford Castle Jan 1223/4, Northampton Castle 1229; appointed a guardian of England in HENRY III's absence in France 1230; Sheriff: Beds, Bucks, Leics, Northants and Worcs 1230; Commr to negotiate with LLEWELYN PRINCE OF N WALES 1232; Keeper: Kenilworth Castle May 1232, Northampton Castle July 1232 and Beds, Bucks, Leics, Northants and Warwicks for life for life; Justiciar of England 1232; a pncpl advsr to HENRY III 1233; m 1st Rohese, sis of Hugh Despenser; m 2nd Ida, sis of Henry de Hastings, and d 1241, leaving, with an er s (dvp): GILBERT de SEGRAVE.4

; SIR STEPHEN DE SEGRAVE, Ld of Segrave, Leics, Constable of the Tower of London 1203, obtained a grant of the lands of Stephen de Gaunt in Lincs 1212, and the Manor of Kineton, Warwicks 1216, prominent as a Judge from 1216, given custody of Saurey Castle, Leics 1219, granted the Manor of Alconbury, Hunts by Henry III 1220, became Sheriff of Seven Counties in that year and one of the King's Ch Councillors, made one of the three Justiciars on the King's departure for Brittany. Ch Justiciar 29 July, 1232, one of the King's Regents during his absence abroad, though only styled Kt, had custody of the Castles of Windsor, Dover, Bodiam, Canterbury, Hertford, Rochester, and Colchester, accompanied HENRY III to France as Ch advsr/y 1233, but lost King's favour 1234, paid 1,000 marks as reconciliation 1235, and became Prin-advsr/y and Min; m 1st, Rohesia, dau of Thomas, and sis of Hugh Le Despenser; and 2nd, Ida, sis of Henry de Hastings, whose elder bro was ancestor of the Earls of Huntingdon (see BURKE'S Peerage) (his arms were: Sable three garbs argent, banded gules), and d 1241, seized of immense properties in land, having had issue.2 GAV-21 EDV-23 GKJ-23.

Family 1

Ida de Hastings d. bt 2 Mar 1288 - 1289
Child

Family 3

Roese le Despenser
Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Falmouth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Segrave Family Page.
  3. [S2292] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 13 Dec 2008: "Hastings Family Pedigree"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 13 Dec 2008. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 13 Dec 2008."
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Mowbray, Segrave and Stourton Family Page.
  5. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Segrave of Isfield Place Family Page.
  6. [S1637] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 13 May 2004: "Possible Identification of Juliana, wife of Robert de Chaucombe"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/fVGUjhV53I8/m/txhvX4TJk2oJ) to e-mail address, 13 May 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 13 May 2004."

Hon. Hugh le Despenser Knt., 3rd Lord Despenser1,2

M, #51044, b. circa 1308, d. between 8 February 1348 and 1349
FatherSir Hugh "the Younger" le Despenser Knt., 1st Lord le Despenser, of Hanley Castle, Worcestershire1,3,4,2,5 b. c 1287, d. 24 Nov 1326
MotherLady Eleanor (Alionore) de Clare1,3,2,6 b. Oct 1292, d. 30 Jun 1337
Last Edited30 Aug 2019
     Hon. Hugh le Despenser Knt., 3rd Lord Despenser was born circa 1308.1 He married Lady Elizabeth de Montagu, daughter of Sir William de Montagu Knt., 3rd Lord Montagu, 1st Earl of Salisbury and Katherine de Grandson, before 27 April 1341
;
Her 2nd husband.1,7,8
Hon. Hugh le Despenser Knt., 3rd Lord Despenser died between 8 February 1348 and 1349 at dsp.1
      ; HUGH le DESPENSER, 1st and last LORD (Baron) DESPENSER of the 1338 cr and de jure 2nd/3rd LORD (Baron) LE DESPENSER; b c 1308; present Battles of Sluys 1340 and Crécy 1346 during early phase of Hundred Years War, called to Parl by writ 15 Nov 1338 thus becoming LORD (Baron) LE DESPENSER (E); m by 27 April 1341 Lady Elizabeth de Mountagu (m 3rd Guy Lord (Baron) Briene and d 31 May 1359), widow of 2nd Lord (Baron) Badlesmere of the 1309 cr and dau of William, 1st Earl of Salisbury (see SALISBURY, M, preliminary remarks), and dsp 8 Feb 1348/9, when the Barony cr by writ 1338 expired.1 He was 1st and last LORD (Baron) DESPENSER of the 1338 cr and de jure 2nd/3rd LORD (Baron) LE DESPENSER.1

Family

Lady Elizabeth de Montagu d. 31 May 1359

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Falmouth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Despenser 7: p. 267. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1854] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 6 Jan 2005 "Elizabeth (Bosvile) (Harlakenden) Pelham: A 'New' Plantagenet Descent"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 6 Jan 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 6 Jan 2005."
  4. [S2035] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 1 Feb 2006: "The Kinsmen of Sir Hugh de Hastings (d. 1347) and the Elsing Brass"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 1 Feb 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 1 Feb 2006."
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugh le Despenser: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027818&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleanor de Clare: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027819&tree=LEO
  7. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Bryan - Baron Bryan, p. 82. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth de Montagu: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00399139&tree=LEO

Lady Elizabeth de Montagu1

F, #51045, d. 31 May 1359
FatherSir William de Montagu Knt., 3rd Lord Montagu, 1st Earl of Salisbury1,2 b. c 1302, d. 30 Jan 1343/44
MotherKatherine de Grandson3,4 b. c 1304, d. 23 Apr 1349
ReferenceGAV23
Last Edited4 Sep 2019
     Lady Elizabeth de Montagu married Giles de Badlesmere 2nd Lord Badlesmere, of Leeds Castle, Kent, son of Bartholomew de Badlesmere 1st Lord Badlesmere and Margaret de Clare,
;
Her 1st husband.1,5,3 Lady Elizabeth de Montagu married Hon. Hugh le Despenser Knt., 3rd Lord Despenser, son of Sir Hugh "the Younger" le Despenser Knt., 1st Lord le Despenser, of Hanley Castle, Worcestershire and Lady Eleanor (Alionore) de Clare, before 27 April 1341
;
Her 2nd husband.1,2,3 Lady Elizabeth de Montagu married Guy de Bryan 1st Lord Bryan, son of Guy de Bryan and Anne Hogan, before 1350
;
Her 3rd husband.1,2,3,6
Lady Elizabeth de Montagu died on 30 May 1359.3
Lady Elizabeth de Montagu died on 31 May 1359.1
     GAV-23.

Reference: Genealogics cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. IV 361.3

Family 2

Hon. Hugh le Despenser Knt., 3rd Lord Despenser b. c 1308, d. bt 8 Feb 1348 - 1349

Family 3

Guy de Bryan 1st Lord Bryan b. b 1319, d. 17 Aug 1390
Children

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Falmouth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Bryan - Baron Bryan, p. 82. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth de Montagu: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00399139&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Catherine de Grandison: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139780&tree=LEO
  5. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's Extinct Peerages, p. 19.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy de Bryan, Lord Bryan: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00220791&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Guy de Bryan: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00555878&tree=LEO

Clarice de Auberville1

F, #51046, d. after 8 October 1250
FatherRobert de Auberville2,1 d. a 23 Jun 1219
MotherClarice de Gestling3,1
ReferenceGAV21
Last Edited5 Sep 2019
     Clarice de Auberville married Fulk III Fitz Warin, son of Fulk II Fitz Warin and Hawise de Dinan,
;
His 2nd wife.1,4
Clarice de Auberville died after 8 October 1250.1
     GAV-21.

Reference: Genealogics cites:
     1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. V 495 footnote C
     2. Hugh de Auberville Descendants 2013, Ravilious, John.1

Family

Fulk III Fitz Warin b. c 1185, d. a 8 Oct 1250
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Clarice de Auberville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00443952&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Auberville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00638426&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Clarice de Gestling: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00638427&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Fulk FitzWarine, of Whittington: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199021&tree=LEO

Elizabeth le Despenser1

F, #51047
FatherSir Thomas le Despenser Knt., KG, Earl of Gloucester, 2nd Lord le Despenser1,2 b. 22 Sep 1373, d. bt 13 Jan 1399 - 1400
MotherConstance (?) of York1,2 b. c 1374, d. 28 Nov 1416
Last Edited7 Sep 2008
     Elizabeth le Despenser died at died young.1

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Falmouth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Despenser 10: pp. 270-271. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Sir James "the Younger" Kennedy of Dunure1,2

M, #51048, d. before 8 November 1408
FatherSir Gilbert Kennedy2,3 b. c 1345, d. a 8 Nov 1408
MotherAgnes Maxwell2,4
Last Edited12 Jan 2014
     Sir James "the Younger" Kennedy of Dunure married Mary Stewart, daughter of Robert III (John) Stewart King of Scots and Annabella Drummond Queen of Scotland, in 1404
; her 2nd husband.1,2
Sir James "the Younger" Kennedy of Dunure died before 8 November 1408; dvp; killed.5,2
      ; JAMES KENNEDY, the younger, of Dunure; m 1405, Mary, dau of King ROBERT III (see MORAY, E), and widow of George, 1st Earl of Angus (see HAMILTON and BRANDON, D), and dvp, before 8 Nov 1408, by her, (who m 3rd, 13 Nov 1413, Sir William Graham (see MONTROSE, D), and m 4th, 1425, Sir William Edmonstone of Duntreath (see EDMONSTONE, Bt) had issue.5

Reference: van de Pas cites: 1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938, Reference: Page 88
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VII 121
3. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: I 160.2

; The family of Kennedy is traditionally descended from the ancient Earls of Carrick. The first of the family mentioned in any charter, Nisbet informs us, is Duncan De Carrick, afterwards 1st Earl of Carrick, and from the document is appears that he lived in the reign of MALCOLM IV, which began about 1150. The grandson of Duncan, Roland of Carrick, obtained from his uncle Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick (who dsm- 1256), a charter granting to him and his heirs the headship of the whole clan with the office of bailiary of the country of Carrick.5

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Hamilton and Brandon Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, James Kennedy, younger, of Dunure: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00060365&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Gilbert Kennedy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00060379&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes Maxwell: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00060379&tree=LEO
  5. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Kennedy-Marquesses Ailsa Family Page.

Sir William Graham Knt., of Kincardine1,2

M, #51049
FatherSir Patrick Graham Knt., of Kincardine, Lord of Dundaff2 d. bt 6 May 1400 - 1404
MotherMatilda (?)2
Last Edited6 Oct 2002
     Sir William Graham Knt., of Kincardine married Mariota Oliphant, daughter of Sir John Oliphant Knt., of Aberdalgy.2
Sir William Graham Knt., of Kincardine married Mary Stewart, daughter of Robert III (John) Stewart King of Scots and Annabella Drummond Queen of Scotland, on 13 November 1413
; her 3rd husband.1,3
      ; SIR WILLIAM GRAHAM, of Kincardine, Kt, who had a charter from Robert, Duke of Albany, 12 Feb 1407, containing an entail of the lands of AULD MONTROSE. He m 1st Mariota, dau of Sir John Oliphant, of Aberdalgy, Kt, by whom he had two sons. Sir William m 2nd Lady Mary Stewart (who m 4th, Sir William Edmonstone of Duntreath), widow of 1st Earl of Angus, and of Sir James Kennedy, of Dunure kt (see AILSA, M), and 2nd dau of KING ROBERT II (see MORAY, E).2

Family 2

Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Hamilton and Brandon Family Page - see MONTROSE, D. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Graham, Dukes of Montrose Family Page.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Kennedy-Marquesses Ailsa Family Page.

Sir William Edmonstone 1st of Duntreath1,2

M, #51050, b. circa 1395, d. between 1460 and 1462
Last Edited6 Jul 2006
     Sir William Edmonstone 1st of Duntreath was born circa 1395.2 He married Mary Stewart, daughter of Robert III (John) Stewart King of Scots and Annabella Drummond Queen of Scotland, in 1425
; her 4th husband.1,3,2
Sir William Edmonstone 1st of Duntreath died between 1460 and 1462 at Blanefield.2
      ; van de Pas cites: Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage, and Knightage, London, 1938, Reference: Page 88.2

Family

Mary Stewart d. by 1458

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Hamilton and Brandon Family Page - see MONTROSE, D. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William Edmonstone, 1st of Duntreath: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00060367&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Kennedy-Marquesses Ailsa Family Page.

Sir David Hay of Locherworth and Yester1,2

M, #51051
FatherSir William Hay of Locherworth and Yester1 d. 1421
MotherJean Gifford1
Last Edited19 Aug 2019
     Sir David Hay of Locherworth and Yester married Lady Elizabeth Douglas, daughter of George Douglas Earl of Angus, Lord Abernethy and Mary Stewart.1,3

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Hamilton and Brandon Family Page - see MONTROSE, D. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Hay Marquess of Tweeddale Family Page - see DON-WAUCHOPE, Bt.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Forbes Family Page.
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Hay Marquess of Tweeddale Family Page.

James Douglas 3rd Earl of Angus1

M, #51052, d. 9 September 1446
FatherSir William Douglas 2nd Earl of Angus1 d. Oct 1437
MotherMargaret Hay1 d. a 22 Apr 1484
Last Edited1 Oct 2002
     James Douglas 3rd Earl of Angus died on 9 September 1446; died unmarried.1

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Hamilton and Brandon Family Page - see MONTROSE, D. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

William Douglas of Cluny, Fife1

M, #51053, d. 1475
FatherSir William Douglas 2nd Earl of Angus1 d. Oct 1437
MotherMargaret Hay1 d. a 22 Apr 1484
Last Edited1 Oct 2002
     William Douglas of Cluny, Fife died in 1475; dsp.1

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Hamilton and Brandon Family Page - see MONTROSE, D. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Hugh Douglas1

M, #51054
FatherSir William Douglas 2nd Earl of Angus1 d. Oct 1437
MotherMargaret Hay1 d. a 22 Apr 1484
Last Edited1 Oct 2002
     Hugh Douglas was Rector of St. Andrews in 1466.1

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Hamilton and Brandon Family Page - see MONTROSE, D. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Sir James Ogilvy 1st Lord Ogilvy of Airlie1,2

M, #51055, d. before 25 September 1504
FatherSir John Ogilvy of Lintrathen3
MotherMarian Seton4
Last Edited23 May 2009
     Sir James Ogilvy 1st Lord Ogilvy of Airlie married Elizabeth Kennedy.2
Sir James Ogilvy 1st Lord Ogilvy of Airlie married Jonet Lyle.2
Sir James Ogilvy 1st Lord Ogilvy of Airlie married Helen Douglas, daughter of Sir William Douglas 2nd Earl of Angus and Margaret Hay, before May 1478.5,2

Sir James Ogilvy 1st Lord Ogilvy of Airlie died before 25 September 1504.2
      ; SIR JAMES OGILVY of Airlie, 1st Ld Ogilvy, was on 28 April, 1491, made a Ld of Parliament, as Ld Ogilvy of Airlie. He was the same year Ambassador to Denmark. he m 1st, Elizabeth Kennedy, by whom he had with other issue an est s, JOHN 2nd Ld. He m 2nd, before May 1478, Helen, widow of William, 2nd Ld Graham (see MONTROSE, D) and dau of William, 2nd Earl of Angus (see HAMILTON & BRANDON, D), and 3rd, Jonet Lyle, who d about 1525, leaving two daus. He d before 25 Sept 1504, and was s by his est son.2 He was 1st Lord Ogilvy of Airlie; was on 28 April, 1491, made a Ld of Parliament, as Ld Ogilvy of Airlie on 28 April 1491.5,2

Family 2

Helen Douglas d. a 20 Nov 1486

Family 3

Jonet Lyle d. c 1525
Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Falmouth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Ogilvy of Airlie Family Page.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Ogilvy-Grant, Earls of Seafield Family Page.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John Ogilvy, of Lintrathen: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00191318&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Hamilton and Brandon Family Page.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mariota Ogilvy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00065071&tree=LEO
  7. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bethune.pdf, p. 18. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

John Carmichael of Balmedie1

M, #51056
Last Edited6 May 2003
     John Carmichael of Balmedie married unknown (?)
; his 1st wife. John Carmichael of Balmedie married Isabella Sibbald, daughter of Sir John Sibbald of Balgony and Joan Livingston of Callendar, before 1447
; his 2nd wife, her 2nd husband.1,2

Family 1

unknown (?)
Child

Family 2

Isabella Sibbald d. b 1503

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Hamilton and Brandon Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Carmichael - Earl of Hundford, p. 105. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.

Avice de Clare1

F, #51057
FatherRichard de Tonbridge ftiz Gilbert de Clare1,2 b. b 1035, d. c 1090
MotherRohese Giffard1,2 b. 1034, d. 1118
Last Edited7 Oct 2020
     Avice de Clare married Raoul I de Fougères Seigneur de Fougères, son of Meen II de Fougères Seigneur de Fougères and Adelaide (?).3,4

     Reference: Genealogics cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 82.2

; Per Med Lands:
     "AVICE de Clare . Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Richardum”, son of “Gislebertus...filius Godefridi comitis Aucensis”, had two daughters of whom one married “Rodulfo de Telegeriis” by whom she had “Fransualo, Henricus et Robertus Giffard”[1574]. "Radulfus Filogerensis et uxor eius Avicia" donated property to Sainte-Trinité de Fougères by undated charter[1575]. “Telegeriis” has not been identified: it is unlikely to be Tillières, normally represented as “Tegularias” or variants, which had been granted to Gilbert Crispin by Guillaume II Duke of Normandy. The same individuals are named in the charter dated 7 Mar 1113 quoted below, which indicates that the family was Fougères: presumably “Telegeriis” is a misreading or mistranscription.
     "m RAOUL [I] de Fougères, son of MEEN [II] de Fougères & his wife Adelaide --- (-1124)."
Med Lands cites:
[1574] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XXXVII, p. 312.
[1575] Fougères Sainte-Trinité, X, p. 195.1
Avice de Clare was also known as Avice de Bienfaite.3

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntac.htm#AviceClareMRaoulFougeres. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Avice de Clare: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00478633&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2077] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 June 2006: "Re: Brittany was Re: William de Mohun's (d Oct 1193) ancestors," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 June 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 June 2006."
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/brittnpr.htm#RaoulIFougeresdied1124
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/brittnpr.htm#HenriFougeresdied1154B

Janet Douglas1

F, #51058
FatherGeorge Douglas 4th Earl of Angus1,2 b. c 1430, d. 12 Mar 1463
MotherIsabella Sibbald1,2 d. b 1503
Last Edited2 Nov 2006
     Janet Douglas married David Scott of Buccleuch.1
Janet Douglas married George Leslie 2nd Earl of Rothes, son of Sir Andrew Leslie Master of Rothes and Elizabeth Sinclair,
; According to Burke's Leslie, Earls Rothesay Family Page, George Leslie, 2nd Earl of Rothes, died unmarried before 31 March 1513.1,3,2

Family 1

George Leslie 2nd Earl of Rothes b. c 1465, d. b 31 Mar 1513

Family 2

David Scott of Buccleuch

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Hamilton and Brandon Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1977] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 14 Oct 2005 : "SP Correction: Elizabeth Sinclair (d. bef 1510) and her marriages"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 14 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 14 Oct 2005."
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Leslie, Earls Rothes Family Page.

George Leslie 2nd Earl of Rothes1,2

M, #51060, b. circa 1465, d. before 31 March 1513
FatherSir Andrew Leslie Master of Rothes2,3 d. c 1486
MotherElizabeth Sinclair2,3 d. b 17 Apr 1509
Last Edited2 Nov 2006
     George Leslie 2nd Earl of Rothes married Janet Douglas, daughter of George Douglas 4th Earl of Angus and Isabella Sibbald,
; According to Burke's Leslie, Earls Rothesay Family Page, George Leslie, 2nd Earl of Rothes, died unmarried before 31 March 1513.1,2,3 George Leslie 2nd Earl of Rothes was born circa 1465; Ravilious cites: "Genealogics," website by Leo van de Pas, www.genealogics.com, cites Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, [ES], and other sources.3
George Leslie 2nd Earl of Rothes died before 31 March 1513.2
     He was Earl of Rothes, qv.1,3

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Hamilton and Brandon Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Leslie, Earls Rothes Family Page.
  3. [S1977] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 14 Oct 2005 : "SP Correction: Elizabeth Sinclair (d. bef 1510) and her marriages"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 14 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 14 Oct 2005."