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     Sir John Drummond Knt., of Concraig died in 1360.² He married Margaret Graham Countess of Menteith (suo juris), daughter of Sir John de Graham Earl of Menteith and Mary (?) Countess of Menteith, before 29 April 1360
;
Her 3rd husband.^3,2,4
      ; van de Pas cites: The Great Historic Families of Scotland, London, 1889, Taylor, James, Reference: 23.²

     Sir Robert Graham Knt., of Kilpont died in 1437 at Stirling, Scotland; executed.¹
      ; Robert (Sir), of Kilpont, the regicide, who assassinated JAMES I at Perth, 21 Feb 1437, and was executed at Stirling 1437. He left issue.¹

     Mariota Oliphant married Sir William Graham Knt., of Kincardine, son of Sir Patrick Graham Knt., of Kincardine, Lord of Dundaff and Matilda (?).¹

     Alexander Graham died; dvp.¹
      ; From the revised chronology of the family (as imperfect as it stands as yet), Alexander Graham (father of Sir Patrick, the first Lord
Graham, who d. 1466) could not have been the son of Mariota Oliphant. It now appears that either

1. Mariota Oliphant was married to Robert Graham, brother of William (see SP VI:215-217 for discussion on this subject), or

2. If William Graham in fact married Mariota, or even a sister of Mariota, that Alexander would have been the son of an earlier, unknown marriage.

I have seen it put about that William Graham was married 1st to a Lindsay (unknown to the author of the SP article). If so, and she was a sister of Sir David de Lindsay (1st Earl of Crawford) everything would work, incl. Alexander's name, with one outstanding gap: a dispensation would have been needed for the marriage of Sir Patrick Graham, Lord Graham, and his wife Christian Erskine as they would have been related in the 3rd and 3rd degree. I have found no evidence to date of such a dispensation, but that proves nothing one way or the other.

Irregardless, it is safe to say the Oliphant marriage (and descent) are out.

Thanks for raising the issue!

Cheers, John


WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
> > In a message dated 11/11/05 1:04:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, therav3@aol.com
> > writes:
> >
> > << There is onomastic support for this identification. Sir
> > Patrick had by his 2nd wife Egidia Stewart a son Sir Patrick Graham,
> > who was m. ca. 1406 to Euphemia Stewart, heiress of her father David
> > Stewart, Earl of Strathearn (a son of King Robert II). >>
> >
> > Does SP and you still have support for the idea that
> > William, Lord Graham (d Aug 1423/5) mar Mariot Olyphant
> > was the son of this
> > Patrick Graham and his first wife?
> >
> > The chronology no longer works from what I have.
> > Thanks
> > Will Johnson.²



; Alexander, who had a safe-conduct to go into England as a hostage for Murdoch, s of Robert, Duke of Albany, the Regent, 31 July 1408. He dvp leaving issue.¹

     Catherine Graham married Sir Humphrey Moray Knt., of Ogilvy, 4th of Abercairny, son of Sir Andrew Moray of Ogilvy, 3rd Laird of Abercairny and Agnes Cunningham,
; had issue.¹

     Sir Humphrey Moray Knt., of Ogilvy, 4th of Abercairny married Catherine Graham, daughter of Alexander Graham,
; had issue.¹
Sir Humphrey Moray Knt., of Ogilvy, 4th of Abercairny died in 1503.¹

     John Graham was living between 8 January 1421 and 1422.¹

     Sir John Stewart married Elizabeth Graham, daughter of Sir William Graham Knt., of Kincardine and Mariota Oliphant, in 1414.¹

     Elizabeth Graham married Sir John Stewart, son of Robert II Stewart King of the Scots, in 1414.¹

      ; Robert, of Strathcarron, ancestor of GRAHAM of Fintry (see BURKE's L.G. 1937 edn), and GRAHAM of Claverhouse, a family to which the heroic defender of the House of Stuart, the "Bonnie Dundee", JOHN of Claverhouse, cr in 1688, Viscount Dundee, who fell victoriously at the battle of Killiecrankie, 26 May 1689, has given a great and a historic reputation (see BURKE's Dormant and Extinct Peerages).¹

      ; William, progenitor of GRAEME of Garvock (see that family), and of the gallant SIR THOMAS GRAHAM, the hero of Barossa, who was cr 17 May 1814, LORD LYNEDOCH, and m Mary (who d 1792), dau of 9th Baron Cathcart (see BURKE's PEERAGE & BARONETAGE 1999 Edn, CATHCART, E), by whom he had no issue. Ld Lyndeoch d aged 92, 18 Dec 1843, when his peerage became extinct (see BURKE's Dormant and Extinct Peerages).¹

      ; ancestor of GRAHAM of Knockdolian.¹

     George Graham of Callander died at Battle of Flodden Field, Northumberland, England.¹ He married Elizabeth Oliphant.¹

      ; George, of Callander, who fell at Flodden, leaving by Elizabeth Oliphant, his w, a s, William, of Callandar, whose s, JOHN GRAHAM, who d before 1597, was f of LAURENCE GRAHAM, whose dau, and eventual heiress, AGNES GRAHAM; m JOHN BONAR of Kilgraston (see BURKE's L.G. 1952 Supp.)

     Margaret Innes married Sir James Ogilvy of Deskford and Findlater, son of Walter Ogilvy of Deskford and Margaret Sinclair,
; his 1st wife.¹

     Christian Graham married James Haldane Laird of Gleneagles before 20 December 1481
; her 1st husband.^3,2 Christian Graham married Sir Thomas Maule Knt., of Panmure
; her 2nd husband.^4,5,2
     Reference: van de Pas cites: Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 1937 1012.²

     James Haldane Laird of Gleneagles married Christian Graham, daughter of William Graham 2nd Lord Graham and Helen Douglas, before 20 December 1481
; her 1st husband.^1,2

      ; ancestor of GRAHAM of Cairnie.¹

     Janet Edmonstone married William Graham 1st Earl of Montrose, son of William Graham 2nd Lord Graham and Helen Douglas.¹

     Margaret Graham married Sir John Somerville of Cambusnettan circa 1510
; contract 10 Jul 1510.¹

     Sir John Somerville of Cambusnettan married Margaret Graham, daughter of William Graham 1st Earl of Montrose and Janet Edmonstone, circa 1510
; contract 10 Jul 1510.¹
Sir John Somerville of Cambusnettan died on 9 September 1513 at Battle of Flodden Field, Northumberland, England.²

     Helen Graham married Humphrey Colquhoun younger of Luss circa 1509
; dispensation 13 July 1509.²

     Humphrey Colquhoun younger of Luss married Helen Graham, daughter of William Graham 1st Earl of Montrose and Janet Edmonstone, circa 1509
; dispensation 13 July 1509.¹

     Christian Wawane married William Graham 1st Earl of Montrose, son of William Graham 2nd Lord Graham and Helen Douglas.¹
Christian Wawane married Andrew Mowbray of Edunburgh, 6th Lord Halyburton.¹