Sir Edward de Neville Knt., 1st Lord Bergavenny1,2,3,4

M, #7472, d. 18 October 1476
FatherSir Ralph de Neville KG, 1st Earl of Westmorland, 4th Lord Neville of Raby2,3 b. b 1364, d. 21 Oct 1425
MotherLady Joan Beaufort Countess of Westmorland2,3 b. 29 Jan 1379, d. 13 Nov 1440
Last Edited10 Dec 2012
     Sir Edward de Neville Knt., 1st Lord Bergavenny married Elizabeth de Beauchamp Baroness Abergavenny, daughter of Richard de Beauchamp KB, 2nd Lord Bergavenny, Earl of Worcester and Isabel le Despenser Baroness Burghersh, before 18 October 1424; his 1st wife.5,2,3,4 Sir Edward de Neville Knt., 1st Lord Bergavenny married Catherine Howard, daughter of Sir Robert Howard Knt., KG, of Stoke Nayland, Suffolk and Lady Margaret Mowbray, after 5 October 1448; his 2nd wife; date of dispensation.6,7,2,3,8,4
Sir Edward de Neville Knt., 1st Lord Bergavenny died on 18 October 1476.5,3
     ; van de Pas cites: 1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938, Reference: Page 68
2. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: O 28 409
3. Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques, Reference: 102, 945
4. Living descendants of Blood Royal in America , Angerville, Count d', Reference: III 301
5. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: I 27.3

; Faris (1999, pp. 20-21): "ELIZABETH BEAUCHAMP, daughter and heiress, was born at Hanley Castle, co. Worcester, on 16 Sep. 1415. She was married before 18 Oct. 1424 to EDWARD NEVILLE, Knt., eleventh and youngest son of Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland (of Magna Carta Surety descent and descendant of Charlemagne), being ninth son by his second wife, Joan Beaufort, the legitimised daughter of John of Lancaster [of Gaunt], Duke of Lancaster (son of King Edward III) [see BEAUFORT 10 for his ancestry]. They had two sons. ELIZABETH BEAUCHAMP died aged thirty-two on 18 June 1448, and was buried at the Carmelites, Coventry. He was summoned to Parliament from 5 Sep. 1450, by writs directed Edwardo Nevill domino de Bergevenny militi. He was married for the second time, with dispensation, they being related in the third degree, dated 15 Oct. 1448, to KATHERINE HOWARD, daughter of Robert Howard, Knt., by Margaret, daughter of Thomas Mowbray, Duke of Norfolk (descendant of King Edward I) [see TANFIELD 7 & WYATT 5 for descendants of this marriage]. They had cohabited in the lifetime of his first wife, and were excommunicated, later absolved. SIR EDWARD NEVILLE, 3rd Lord Bergavenny, died on 18 Oct. 1476. His widow was living on 29 June 1478.
C.P. 1:27-30 (1910). CF. 3:347 (1913). Paget (1957) 410:1-2. Paget (1977) 176."6 He was 1st Lord Bergavenny on 5 September 1450.9,1

Family 2

Catherine Howard d. a 29 Jun 1478
Children

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, ABERGAVENNY Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Bergavenny 12: p. 93. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Edward Nevill: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00008462&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Neville 10.v: p. 544.
  5. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), pp. 20-21. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  6. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 384.
  7. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 71-9, p. 87. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  8. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Cornwall 10.i: p. 235.
  9. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis MCS-5, line 47-8, p. 67.
  10. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Brooke - Barons Cobham, p. 77. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.

Catherine Howard1,2

F, #7473, d. after 29 June 1478
FatherSir Robert Howard Knt., KG, of Stoke Nayland, Suffolk1,3 d. 1436
MotherLady Margaret Mowbray1,3 b. 1388, d. b 18 Oct 1459
Last Edited10 Dec 2012
     Catherine Howard married Sir Edward de Neville Knt., 1st Lord Bergavenny, son of Sir Ralph de Neville KG, 1st Earl of Westmorland, 4th Lord Neville of Raby and Lady Joan Beaufort Countess of Westmorland, after 5 October 1448; his 2nd wife; date of dispensation.4,5,1,6,2,7
Catherine Howard died after 29 June 1478.5
     Catherine Howard was also known as Katherine Howard.2

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Bergavenny 12: p. 93. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Cornwall 10.i: p. 235.
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Cornwall 10: p. 235.
  4. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 384. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  5. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 71-9, p. 87. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Edward Nevill: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00008462&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  7. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Neville 10.v: p. 544.
  8. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, ABERGAVENNY Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Sir Robert Howard Knt., KG, of Stoke Nayland, Suffolk1,2,3,4

M, #7474, d. 1436
FatherSir John Howard Knt., of Wiggenhall, E Winch, etc.5,6,3 b. c 1366, d. 17 Nov 1436
MotherAlice Tendring5,7,3 b. 1365, d. 18 Oct 1426
ReferenceEDV16
Last Edited16 Aug 2019
     Sir Robert Howard Knt., KG, of Stoke Nayland, Suffolk married Lady Margaret Mowbray, daughter of Sir Thomas de Mowbray Knt., KG, 1st Duke of Norfolk, 6th Lord Mowbray, Segrave and Lady Elizabeth Fitz Alan Countess of Norfolk, circa 1420.8,9,4,10,11,12
Sir Robert Howard Knt., KG, of Stoke Nayland, Suffolk died in 1436.8,4,12
     ; Sir ROBERT HOWARD; cmded English fleet in Channel at time of Agincourt Campaign 1415; b c 1385; m c 1420 Lady Margaret de Mowbray, er dau of 1st Duke of Norfolk of the 1397 cr (see MOWBRAY, SEGRAVE and STOURTON, B) by his 2nd w Elizabeth Fitz Alan (see below against Lineage (of Fitz Alan)), and had, with two daus (Margaret, m Thomas Daniel, of Rathwire, Co Meath, s of William Daniel, of Daresbury, Cheshire; Catherine, m as his 2nd w 1st Lord (Baron) Bergavenny.2 EDV-16.

Sir Robert Howard Knt., KG, of Stoke Nayland, Suffolk lived at Stoke-by-Nayland, co. Suffolk, England.13

; Faris (1999, p. 248): "MARGARET MOWBRAY, daughter, and in her issue co-heiress, was married about 1420 to ROBERT HOWARD, of Stoke-by-Nayland, Suffolk, son of John Howard, Knt., of Wiggenhall, Norfolk (of Magna Carta Surety descent and descendant of Charlemagne), by his second wife Alice, daughter and heiress of William Tendring, Knt., of Tendring, Essex. He was born about 1383. SIR ROBERT HOWARD died in 1436 v.p. His widow died about 1440.
C.P. 1:30 (1910). C.P. 9:610 footnoted (1936). Pager (1957) 294:2. Paget (1977), p. 472. Roskell (1992) 3:431.433.
Children of Robert Howard, by Margaret Mowbray:
i.     JOHN HOWARD [see next].
ii.     KATHERINE HOWARD, married EDWARD NEVILLE [see BEAUFORT 10]."14

Family

Lady Margaret Mowbray b. 1388, d. b 18 Oct 1459
Children

Citations

  1. Per Richardson: "...younger son by his father's 2nd marriage."
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Norfolk Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Cornwall 9: p. 234. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Cornwall 10: p. 235.
  5. [S1713] David Utz, "Utz email #1 29 May 2005 "Aline de Gai's descents to Anne Arundell"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 May 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #1 29 May 2005."
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John Howard: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00007825&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice Tendring: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027041&tree=LEO
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 22-33, p. 24. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  9. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Mowbray, Segrave and Stourton Family Page - "she dsp a minor 25 Jan-10 Nov 1481."
  10. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Fitz Alan 12.ii: p. 323.
  11. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Mowbray 10.iv: p. 534.
  12. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Ruthin 11: pp. 621-2.
  13. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999). Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  14. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 384.
  15. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Bergavenny 12: p. 93.
  16. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John Howard: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00007826&tree=LEO

Edward Brooke 6th Lord Cobham1

M, #7475, d. before 8 November 1464
FatherSir Thomas Brooke Knt., Lord Cobham1 b. c 1392, d. 12 Aug 1439
MotherJoan Braybrooke1 b. c 1404, d. 24 Nov 1442
Last Edited15 Aug 2006
     Edward Brooke 6th Lord Cobham married Elizabeth (Tuchet) Audley, daughter of Sir James Tuchet (Audley) 5th Lord Audley and Margaret de Ros, on or bef 2 Feb 1436/7.2,1
Edward Brooke 6th Lord Cobham died before 8 November 1464.3
     ; "The eldest son, Sir Edward Brooke, Knt., summoned to parliament as "Edwardo Brooke de Cobham, Chevalier," from 13 January, 1445 to 30 July, 1480. (The Barony of Cobham had lain doemant from the execution of Sir John Oldcastle, Lord Cobham, until the issue of the first of these summonses.) His lordship was a zealous supporter of the house of York, under whose banner he partcipated in the victory of St. Albans, in the 33rd of Henry VI [1454/5], and commanded the left wing of the Yorkshiremen at Horthampton. He m. Elizabeth, dau. of James, Lord Audley, and dying in 1464, was s. by his son, John Brooke..."4 He was 6th Lord Cobham of the Jan 1312/13 cr.5

; Faris (1999) pp. 383-384: [quote] EDWARD BROOKE, 6th Lord Cobham, son and heir, M.P. for Somerset, was summoned to Parliament from 13 Jan. 1444/5 by writs directed Edwardo Broke de Cobham Chivaler. He was a staunch Yorkist, and had his mansion at Olditch sacked by the Lancastrian Earl of Ormond. He fought at St. Albans on 23 May 1455, and was at the Battle of Northampton on 10 July 1460. He was married on or before 2 Feb. 1436/7 to ELIZABETH AUDLEY (or TUCHET), daughter of James Tuchet, 5th Lord Audley (of Magna Carta Surety descent and descendant of Charlemagne), by his first wife, Margaret, daughter of William Roos, 6th Lord Roos (descendant of King Edward I) [see TUCHET 9 for her ancestry]. EDWARD BROOKE, Lord Cobham, died in 1464 before 8 November, when his widow had pardon for having married without licence CHRISTOPHER WORSLEY, "the King's servant".
Arch.Cant. 11:101-103 (1870) ('a man of great witte and much experience'). C.P. 3:346 (1913) (for her parentage, Gen. (n.s.) 28, Pt. 1, P. 62). Cal.Close Rolls, 1435-1441 (1937), P. 101. Paget (1977), P. 282.

Children of Edward Brooke, by Elizabeth Tuchet:
i.     JOHN BROOKE [see next].
ii.     ELIZABETH BROOKE, married ROBERT TANFIELD [see TANFIELD 8]. [end quote]3

Family

Elizabeth (Tuchet) Audley d. a 8 Nov 1464
Children

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Brooke - Barons Cobham, p. 76. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 383. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  3. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, pp. 383-384.
  4. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Brooke - Barons Cobham, pp. 76-77.
  5. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Brooke - Barons Cobham, p. 77.

Elizabeth (Tuchet) Audley

F, #7476, d. after 8 November 1464
FatherSir James Tuchet (Audley) 5th Lord Audley b. c 1398, d. 23 Sep 1459
MotherMargaret de Ros d. a 1423
Last Edited15 Aug 2006
     Elizabeth (Tuchet) Audley married Edward Brooke 6th Lord Cobham, son of Sir Thomas Brooke Knt., Lord Cobham and Joan Braybrooke, on or bef 2 Feb 1436/7.1,2
Elizabeth (Tuchet) Audley died after 8 November 1464.1

Family

Edward Brooke 6th Lord Cobham d. b 8 Nov 1464
Children

Citations

  1. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 383. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Brooke - Barons Cobham, p. 76. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, pp. 383-384.

Sir James Tuchet (Audley) 5th Lord Audley

M, #7477, b. circa 1398, d. 23 September 1459
FatherSir John Tuchet 2nd Lord Tuchet, 4th Lord Audley b. 23 Apr 1372, d. 19 Dec 1408
MotherIsabel/Elizabeth Stafford1 d. a 3 May 1405
Last Edited7 Oct 2020
     Sir James Tuchet (Audley) 5th Lord Audley was born circa 1398.2,3 He married Margaret de Ros, daughter of Sir William de Ros Knt., KG, 6th Lord de Ros of Helmsley and Margaret Arundel, circa March 1415; papal dispensation March 1415.4,5,3,6 Sir James Tuchet (Audley) 5th Lord Audley married Alianor/Eleanor Holand, daughter of Edmund de Holand KG, 4th/6th Earl of Kent, 8th Lord Wake and Constance (?) of York, circa March 1430; his 2nd wife, papal dispensation 16 March 1429/30.2,3
Sir James Tuchet (Audley) 5th Lord Audley died on 23 September 1459 at Blore Heath, Shropshire, England.2
     ; Ch Justice 1423 and Chamberlain S Wales 1438/9 and 1441, supported HENRY VI in Wars of Roses; m 1st (papal dispensation March 1415) Margaret, dau of 6th Lord (Baron) De Ros (qv) of Helmsley and had issue; see 1970 edn.)3

; Faris (1999) pp. 359-360: [quote] MARGARET ROOS, was married, with papal dispensation dated March 1415 to remain in marriage contracted but not consummated, to JAMES TUCHET (or AUDLEY), 5th Lord Audley, Chief Justice of South Wales, son and heir of John Tuchet, Knt. (of Magna Carta Surety descent and descendant of Charlemagne), by his wife Elizabeth Stafford. He was born about 1398 (aged ten in 1408). He was summoned to Parliament on 26 Feb. 1420/1, with writs directed Jacobo de Audley. She was living in September 1423. He was married for the second time to ALIANOR HOLAND, base-born daughter of Edmund Holand, Ear] of Kent [see HOLAND 6 for descendants of this marriage]. Having raised ten thousand men on behalf of King Henry VI, JAMES TUCHET, Lord Audley, aged sixty-one, was defeated and slain at Blore Heath, co. Salop, on 23 Sep. 1459.
C.P. (1910) 1:341-342, 341 footnote c (he was slain by Sir Roger Kynaston, of Hordley, who took
his arms, Ermine a chevron gules, ever after borne by the branch of the Kynastons [see LLOYD 6]). Gen. 28:62 (pt. 1) (1912). CF. 3:346 (1913). CF. 6:140 (1926). CF. 11:103, footnote e
(1949). Pager (1977), p. 403.
Children of James Tuchet, by Margaret Roos:
i.     JOHN AUDLEY [see next].
ii.     ELIZABETH AUDLEY, married EDWARD COBHAM [see WYATT 6].
[end quote]4,7 Sir James Tuchet (Audley) 5th Lord Audley was also known as Sir James Audley/Tuchet 5th Lord Audley.8 He was M. P. between 1421 and 1455.5

Family 1

Margaret de Ros d. a 1423
Children

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabel|Elizabeth Stafford: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00113559&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), pp. 359-360. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Wake Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  4. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 383.
  5. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 9-34, p. 13. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  6. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Roos 11.ii: p. 614. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  7. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), Line 1-8, p. 1. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  8. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Vernon, Baron Family Page.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne Touchet: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00236489&tree=LEO
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Touchet: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00236491&tree=LEO
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Humphrey Audley: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00148253&tree=LEO
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne Touchet: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00319615&tree=LEO
  13. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 26, BEVAN 8.
  14. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Bevan 12: p. 104.
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Constance Touchet: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00249154&tree=LEO

Margaret de Ros1

F, #7478, d. after 1423
FatherSir William de Ros Knt., KG, 6th Lord de Ros of Helmsley1 b. c 1370, d. 1 Sep 1414
MotherMargaret Arundel1 d. 3 Jul 1438
Last Edited7 Oct 2020
     Margaret de Ros married Sir James Tuchet (Audley) 5th Lord Audley, son of Sir John Tuchet 2nd Lord Tuchet, 4th Lord Audley and Isabel/Elizabeth Stafford, circa March 1415; papal dispensation March 1415.2,3,4,1
Margaret de Ros died after 1423.3
     Margaret de Ros was also known as Margaret Roos.1 She was living in September 1423.5

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Roos 11.ii: p. 614. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 383. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  3. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 9-34, p. 13. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Wake Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  5. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 359.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne Touchet: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00236489&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  7. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Vernon, Baron Family Page.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Touchet: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00236491&tree=LEO

Sir William de Ros Knt., KG, 6th Lord de Ros of Helmsley1,2,3,4

M, #7479, b. circa 1370, d. 1 September 1414
FatherSir Thomas de Ros Knt., 4th Lord de Ros of Helmesley3,5 b. 13 Jan 1336/37, d. 8 Jun 1384
MotherBeatrice de Stafford3,5 b. c 1340, d. 14 Apr 1415
Last Edited7 Oct 2020
     Sir William de Ros Knt., KG, 6th Lord de Ros of Helmsley was born circa 1370; aged 24 in 1394.6,3,4 He married Margaret Arundel, daughter of Sir John de Arundel 1st (?) Lord Arundel, Baron Mautravers and Eleanor Mautravers Baroness Mautravers, on 10 September 1394 at Sterborough, co. Surrey, England; Burke's Peerage says marriage ca 9 Oct 1394; Genealogy.EU (Arundel 2 page) says marriace contract 9 Oct. 1394; Richardson says license date 9 Oct. 1394.6,1,3,4
Sir William de Ros Knt., KG, 6th Lord de Ros of Helmsley died on 1 September 1414 at Belvoir Castle, Leicestershire, England; died testate.7,2,3,4
Sir William de Ros Knt., KG, 6th Lord de Ros of Helmsley was buried after 1 September 1414 at Belvoir Priory, Leicestershire, England.4


     ; WILLIAM de ROS, 6th Lord (Baron) De Ros of Helmsley, KG (1404), PC temp RICHARD II and HENRY IV; b c 1369; Ld Treasurer 1403-04; m (licence 9 Oct 1394) Margaret (d 3 July 1438), sis of 13th/6th Earl of Arundel (see NORFOLK, D), and d 1 Sept 1414.2 He was 6th Lord (Baron) De Ros of Helmsley.8,2

; Faris (1999) pp. 312-313: [quote] WILLIAM ROOS, of Belvoir, K.G. [6th Lord Roos of Helmesley], P.C., Lord Treasurer of England, was born about 1368 (aged twenty-four at his brother's death), and was brother and heir to John Roos. He was summoned to Parliament from 20 Nov. 1394. He was married, with licence dated 9 Oct. 1394, to MARGARET ARUNDEL, daughter of John de Arundel, Knt., of Arundel (descendant of King Henry III), by Alianor, younger daughter and co-heiress of John Maltravers, Lord Mautravers [see BROWNE 11 for her ancestry]. They had five sons and four daughters. "William de Roos, lord of Hamelak and Belvoir" died testate (Linc.Episc.Reg., 93 Repingdon) at Belvoir on 1 Sep. 1414, and was buried at Belvoir Priory. His widow died testate on 3 July 1438.
C.P. 1:341 (1910). Clay (1913), p. 184. C.P. 11:102-104 (1949). Paget (1957) 473:7-8). John
Nichols:     History of Leicestershire, II Part I 27 ff.
Children of William Roos, by Margaret Arundel:
i.     THOMAS ROOS [see next].
ii.     MARGARET ROOS, married JAMES TUCHET [see TUCHET 9]. [end quote]9 He was M. P. between 1394 and 1413.10 He was Lord Treasurer of England in 1403/4.7

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Norfolk Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Ros Family Page.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Arundel 2 page (The House of Arundel): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/arundel2.html
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Roos 11: p. 613. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Roos 10: pp. 612-3.
  6. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 312. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  7. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, pp. 312-313.
  8. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 1-7, p. 1. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  9. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 383.
  10. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 9-33, p. 12-13. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  11. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Roos 11.ii: p. 614.
  12. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Roos 14: p. 614.
  13. [S2285] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email #2 12 July 2008: "Bohun Family of Midhurst, Sussex"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 12 July 2008. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email #2 12 July 2008."

Elizabeth Brooke

F, #7480
FatherEdward Brooke 6th Lord Cobham d. b 8 Nov 1464
MotherElizabeth (Tuchet) Audley d. a 8 Nov 1464
Last Edited29 May 2001
     Elizabeth Brooke married Robert Tanfield.1
     

Family

Robert Tanfield
Child

Citations

  1. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 384. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.

Robert Tanfield

M, #7481
Last Edited29 May 2001
     Robert Tanfield married Elizabeth Brooke, daughter of Edward Brooke 6th Lord Cobham and Elizabeth (Tuchet) Audley.1
     

Family

Elizabeth Brooke
Child

Citations

  1. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 384. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  2. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 383.

Sir Thomas Brooke Knt., Lord Cobham1

M, #7482, b. circa 1392, d. 12 August 1439
FatherThomas Brooke Knt., of Olditch
MotherJoan Hanham
Last Edited15 Aug 2006
     Sir Thomas Brooke Knt., Lord Cobham was born circa 1392.2 He married Joan Braybrooke, daughter of Sir Reynold Braybrooke Knt., of Cooling Castle, Kent and Joan de la Pole Baroness Cobham, in 1409/10 at Cooling Castle, co. Kent, England.2,1
Sir Thomas Brooke Knt., Lord Cobham died on 12 August 1439.2
     ; Faris (1999) p. 383: [quote] JOAN BRAYBROOKE, Lady Cobham suo jure, only surviving daughter and heiress of her mother, was born about 1404. She was married at Cooling Castle, Kent, with marriage settlement dated 20 Feb. 1409/10 to THOMAS BROOKE, Knt., of Brooke, Somerset, and Weycroft in Axminster and Olditch in Thorncombe, Devon, M.P., Dorset and Somerset, Sheriff of Devonshire, son of Thomas Brooke, Knt., of Olditch, by Joan, daughter and co-heiress of Simon Hanham, of Gloucester. He was born about 1392 (aged twenty-six in January 1417/8). They had ten sons and four daughters. Although he adopted his step-father's Lollardism he escaped execution. He was knighted between 1416 and 1421, and appears, jure uxoris, to have been considered Lord Cobham. "Sir Thomas Brook, lord of Cobham" died testate (P.C.C., 28 Luffenam) on 12 Aug. 1439, and was buried at Thorncombe, Devon (M.1.) His widow died on 24 Nov. 1442.
Arch.Cant. 11:100.103 (1870) (Brooke arms: Gules, on a chevron argent, a lion rampant sable, crowned or) (he was never summoned to Parliament). C.P. 3:346 (1913). Paget (1977), p. 277. Roskell (1992) 2:350,375-377. [end quote]

Family

Joan Braybrooke b. c 1404, d. 24 Nov 1442
Children

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Brooke - Barons Cobham, p. 76. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 383. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.

Joan Braybrooke1

F, #7483, b. circa 1404, d. 24 November 1442
FatherSir Reynold Braybrooke Knt., of Cooling Castle, Kent1 b. c 1356, d. 20 Sep 1405
MotherJoan de la Pole Baroness Cobham1 b. b Nov 1380, d. 13 Jan 1433/34
Last Edited15 Aug 2006
     Joan Braybrooke was born circa 1404.2 She married Sir Thomas Brooke Knt., Lord Cobham, son of Thomas Brooke Knt., of Olditch and Joan Hanham, in 1409/10 at Cooling Castle, co. Kent, England.2,1
Joan Braybrooke died on 24 November 1442.2

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Brooke - Barons Cobham, p. 76. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 383. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.

Thomas Brooke Knt., of Olditch

M, #7484
Last Edited15 Aug 2006
     Thomas Brooke Knt., of Olditch married Joan Hanham, daughter of Simon Hanham of Gloucester.1
     

Family

Joan Hanham
Child

Citations

  1. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 383. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.

Joan Hanham

F, #7485
FatherSimon Hanham of Gloucester
Last Edited15 Aug 2006
     Joan Hanham married Thomas Brooke Knt., of Olditch.1

Citations

  1. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 383. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.

Simon Hanham of Gloucester

M, #7486
Last Edited15 Aug 2006
     

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 383. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.

Sir Reynold Braybrooke Knt., of Cooling Castle, Kent1,2

M, #7487, b. circa 1356, d. 20 September 1405
FatherSir Gerard (III) Braybrooke Knt., of Clifton, Colmworth, and Great Barford, Bedfordshire2,3 b. c 1332, d. bt 1 Feb 1402 - 1403
MotherMargaret Longueville2,4 b. c 1296
Last Edited27 Sep 2019
     Sir Reynold Braybrooke Knt., of Cooling Castle, Kent was born circa 1356.5 He married Joan de la Pole Baroness Cobham, daughter of John de la Pole Knt., of Ashby Avid, Northamptonshire and Joan Cobham, between September 1391 and February 1392; her 2nd husband.6,1,2
Sir Reynold Braybrooke Knt., of Cooling Castle, Kent died on 20 September 1405 at Middleburg on the Scheldt, Flanders, Belgium (now); "[Sir Reginald Braybrooke] accompanied Thomas of Lancaster to Flanders. On the latter occasion, during the unsuccessful attack on Sluys, he sustained a wound that was to prove fatal. Lingering for four months, he died at Middleburg on 20 September."5,1

Family

Joan de la Pole Baroness Cobham b. b Nov 1380, d. 13 Jan 1433/34
Child

Citations

  1. [S1542] Brad Verity, "Verity 30 Nov 2003 email "Cobham of Cobham Corrections - Part 2"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 30 Nov 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 30 Nov 2003."
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Braybrooke 9: p. 147. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Gerard (III) Braybrooke, of Colmworth: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00331780&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret Longueville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00615961&tree=LEO
  5. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 383. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  6. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, pp. 382-383.
  7. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Brooke - Barons Cobham, p. 76. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.

Joan de la Pole Baroness Cobham1

F, #7488, b. before November 1380, d. 13 January 1433/34
FatherJohn de la Pole Knt., of Ashby Avid, Northamptonshire d. b 20 Aug 1367
MotherJoan Cobham b. 1355, d. c 1404
Last Edited27 Jul 2008
     Joan de la Pole Baroness Cobham was born before November 1380; Verity says ca 1370 "seems a good guess."2,1 She married Sir Robert Hemenhale Knt., of Polstead Hall before November 1380; her 1st husband.2,1 Joan de la Pole Baroness Cobham married Sir Reynold Braybrooke Knt., of Cooling Castle, Kent, son of Sir Gerard (III) Braybrooke Knt., of Clifton, Colmworth, and Great Barford, Bedfordshire and Margaret Longueville, between September 1391 and February 1392; her 2nd husband.2,1,3 Joan de la Pole Baroness Cobham married Sir Nicholas Hawberk Knt. in 1406; her 3rd husband; his 2nd wife.2,1 Joan de la Pole Baroness Cobham married Sir John Oldcastell Knt., of Almeley, Baron Cobham before 18 July 1408; her 4th husband, his 3rd wife.4,5 Joan de la Pole Baroness Cobham married Sir John Harpenden Knt. after 18 July 1408; her 5th husband.4,1
Joan de la Pole Baroness Cobham died on 13 January 1433/34.2
     ; Cobham of Cobham Corrections - Part 2
The focus on this post is Joan (de la Pole), Baroness Cobham, her five husbands & her children.

CP: "At an early age she m., 1stly, before Nov. 1380"

Saul [p. 26]: "This Joan was a remarkable woman who lived into her seventies."

This would place Joan's birth prior to 1363, which seems too early. Her first child was born in 1386, so a birth of about 1370 for Joan, Baroness Cobham, seems a good guess.

CP: "Sir Robert Hemenhale, of Norfolk, who d. 1391, and was bur. in Westminster Abbey."

Saul [p. 26]: "Joan's first match had probably been arranged by her parents. The husband chosen for her was a distinguished Norfolk knight, Sir Robert Hemenhale of Polstead in Burnham Norton. Hemenhale died in September 1391 ... For Robert's inquisition, see 'CIPM', xvii, nos. 62-3 ... In his will Robert had requested burial in the choir of the Carmelite friary at Burnham (PRO, PROB 11/1, fo.60), but his wishes were overridden and he was buried at Westminster Abbey, in St. John the Evangelist's chapel (B. Harvey, 'Westminster Abbey and its Estates in the Middle Ages', Oxford, 1977, 378). It is unclear what achievements or connections qualified him for this honour. The family had a strong military tradition. For evidence of their performance of military service, see PRO, C76/15m.20 (John Hemenhale, 1340); C76/38m.17 (Ralph Hemenhale, 1359); C61/82m.7 (Sir William Hemenhale, 1369). Perhaps Robert had a distinguished soldiering record, although there is no mention of him in the chronicles."

CP: "By him she had a s., William, who d.s.p., after 1391."

Saul [p. 26]: "[Hemenhale died] leaving as his heir a five-year-old boy William described later as an 'idiot' ... Robert had made an enfeoffment of his estates in 1389, the purpose of which was clearly to avoid a wardship ('CCR 1389-92', 90). The ruse was uncovered after William's death in 1402 ('CIPM', xix, nos. 154-5), and an inquiry ordered in 1406 ('CPR 1405-8', 304)."

CP: "She m., 2ndly, Sir Reynold Braybrooke, who d.s.p.m.s., at Middleburg on the Scheldt, 20 Sep. 1405, and was bur. in Cobham Church."

Saul [pp. 26-7]: "His widow held Radwinter Hall (Essex) and five Suffolk manors in dower. [footnote: Butler, 'Robert Braybrooke, Bishop of London (1381-1404) and his Kinsmen', 94-5.] Immediately afterwards, she married again. Her husband this time was Sir Reginald Braybrooke, a junior member of an important east-midland family distantly related to the princess of Wales." Later [p. 239]: "Joan was envisaged as a sort of bridge between the old world and the new. By the end of the 1380s, after the deaths first of her parents and then of her first husband, her grandfather [John, 3rd Lord Cobham] had taken her under his wing. He brought her to live at Cobham. In 1391 he arranged for her to be remarried to the courtier knight, Sir Reginald Braybrooke." [p. 27]: "...and in the following year [1405] he [Sir Reginald Braybrooke] accompanied Thomas of Lancaster to Flanders. On the latter occasion, during the unsuccessful attack on Sluys, he sustained a wound that was to prove fatal. Lingering for four months, he died at Middleburg on 20 September."

Saul: "Her two boys by Braybrooke had both died in early youth ... There is a definite poignancy in the boys' appearance on the brasses. The boys' names are given: Reginald and Robert on Braybrooke's (the elder boy being named after his father)."

CP: "She m., 3rdly, within a year of his death, as 2nd wife, Sir Nicholas Hawberk, who d. (leaving by her a son, John, who d. an infant) 9 Oct. 1407, and was bur. in Cobham Church."

Saul [pp. 27-9]: "Joan's next husband was almost certainly found for her by the king. Sir Nicholas Hawberk, a self-made man of apparently limited means, had begun his career, like Braybrooke, in the royal household. He first appears as a king's esquire around 1391, and he was knighted shortly after. [footnote: 'CPR 1388-92', 487; '1391-6', 205. In Nov. 1390, as simply 'Nicholas Hawberk esquire' (not yet 'king's esquire'), he was pardoned at Baldwin Bereford's behest for a murder ('CPR 1388-92', 319).] His origins and background are obscure. He cannot have been related to the Leicestershire gentry family of Hawberk, for his arms are different. [footnote: The Leicestershire Hawberks bore 'argent on a bend sable three knots of rings or' (J. Nichols, 'The History and Antiquities of Leicestershire', 4 vols; London, 1795-1811, ii, pt I, 350).] His name suggests that he was probably of German descent. His coat-of-arms has close affinities with some German blazons, and the triple mount and chapourny partition are better accommodated in the context of Rhenish than English heraldry. [footnote: As noted by Glover, on the evidence of Hawberk's seal, his arms were 'checky argent and gules, a chief nebulee per fess gules and or' (Nichols, 'Memorials of the Family of Cobham', 330).] A reasonable hypothesis may be to see him as a member of the German and Bohemian retinue that came to England in the wake of Richard II's marriage to Anne of Bohemia, the emperor's daughter. If the case for his foreign origin is to be accepted, then he is probably to be identified with the 'Here Nikel Bergo' whom Richard retained in December 1393. Whatever lands, grants and offices he picked up in England, he owed to royal patronage. In 1396 Richard appointed him to the important offices of sheriff and constable of Flint. [footnote: 'CPR 1396-9', 49.] Eight months later he was given the hand in marriage of Maud, widow of John, Lord Le Strange of Knockin (Salop)--a grant which strengthened his position in the Welsh marches. In 1399, in common with many other of Richard's knights, he successfully managed the transition to Lancastrian service. The esteem in which he was held by the new king is indicated by the diplomatic tasks entrusted to him. In 1401 he accompanied Richard's widow, Isabelle, on her return to France, and in the following year, perhaps because of his German origin, he was made one of the escorts for Blanche, the king's daughter, on her journey to Germany to be married. [footnote: Waller, 'The Lords of Cobham', 90.] A few years before this, in September 1400, his wife had died. He was granted custody of her heir, with the prospect of political and financial gains that this offered. [footnote: 'CPR 1399-1401', 424.] But in 1405 he landed a much richer prize: the hand of Reginald Braybrooke's widow, Joan. The marriage was to be short-lived, however. Nicholas died only two years later, in 1407." Later, Saul says: "her one son by Hawberk was stillborn or had died in infancy."

CP: "She m., 4thly, as 3rd wife, before 18 July 1408, Sir John Oldcastell"

Saul [p. 29]: "At the beginning of 1408 Joan married again. Her next husband--her fourth--was a Herefordshire knight, Sir John Oldcastle of Almeley. The match may well have been arranged by the Prince of Wales."

CP: "She m., 5thly, Sir John Harpeden, who survived her for 24 years, and d. 1458, being bur. in Westm. Abbey."

Saul [pp. 30-1]: "Joan's fifth and last husband was another soldier. This was Sir John Harpedon, scion of a Poitevin noble family..." Later, Saul says [p. 216]: "His family background is obscure. His name suggests that he was descended from Sir John Harpedon, the Poitevin knight who was seneschal of Saintongue in the 1370s. [footnote: For his career, on which the Anonimalle chronicler was well-informed, see 'The Anonimalle Chronicle 1333 to 1381', ed. V.H. Galbraith (Manchester, 1927), 115,116,188.] This John Harpedon's son, another John, acquired the lordship of Belleville and entered French allegiance, rising to the office of chamberlain to Charles VI. [footnote: The younger John's French allegiance was noted in his father's inquisition in 1396: 'CIPM', xvii, no. 289. For the role of the younger John in French politics, see J.B. henneman, 'Olivier de Clisson and Political Society in France under Charles V and Charles VI' (Philadelphia, 1996), 139,203, 312 n.49. He acquired the lordship of Belleville by his father's marriage to Jeanne, Olivier de Clisson's sister; for the Clisson genealogy, see ibid. 205.] Although it cannot be proved, there is a fair likelihood that John Harpedon, Joan's husband, was this second John's son. [footnote: In his inquisition post mortem of 1438, his father was said to have been called 'John': PRO, C139/86/28m.10.] It is conceivable that burial in [Westminster] abbey was his reward for entering English allegiance."

Saul [p. 218]: "In his final years he [Harpedon] lived in England. For the duration of his marriage to Joan he had control of the Cobham and de la Pole inheritances jure uxoris. [footnote: It is not known when he married Joan. A terminus ante quem of June 1428 is provided by a reference in Glover's notes to an indenture which he possessed containing evidences relating to the descent of the Cobham estates: Nichols, 'Memorials of the Family of Cobham', 341.] But after Joan's death, he had to live largely on his patrimonial estates, which were less ample. [footnote: He was lord of Harpsden (Oxon.): 'Feudal Aids', iv, 200. According to his inquisition, he also held Swinbrook in the same county (PRO, C139/86/28). In an exchequer court case of 1434 he was described as 'of Berkshire' (BL, Harley Roll C30); so presumably he held lands there too. Again according to his inquisition, in Huntingdonshire he held the former de la Pole manors of Everton and Offord by life grant from his wife's daughter and her husband Sir Thomas Brooke. There were no children by his marriage to Joan; his heir was said to be Isabella, wife of Robert Olyver, esquire, the daughter of Elizabeth, daughter of Gilbert, brother of Harpedon's father John (PRO, C139/86/28).]"

Saul [p. 31]: "John survived his elderly wife by a little over four years. The latter died on 13 January 1434, and her husband in May 1438. [footnote: PRO, C139/86/28: not 1458, as Waller, 'The Lords of Cobham', 99.]

CP: "In this brass [Joan, Lady Cobham's] her 2nd husband only (by whom only, apparently, she had surviving issue) is commemorated. On the brass are no less than 6 sons and 4 daughters."

Saul [p. 31]: "Joan had numerous issue by her first three husbands, among them a couple of sons by Braybrooke and another by Hawberk. However, only one of the brood survived to adulthood: Joan, a daughter by Braybrooke, who became her mother's heiress." Later, Saul says: "Alongside the figure and above the inscription are two groups of children--ten in all, six sons and four daughters ... The patron's purpose in commissioning them is clear: to create the impression of Joan the fecund mother, the begetter of a great brood. Yet the reality of her experience was very different. Not only is it highly unlikely that she ever bore ten children--the plates were presumably stock issue--but not one of the boys she bore survived to manhood. When she died in 1434 her heir was her daughter by Braybrooke: which accounts for her identification as Braybrooke's wife on the epitaph ('uxor domini Reginaldi Braybrook militis'). So this remarkable brass, with its intense interest in children and virtuoso display of heraldry, is at one level a celebration of lineage, but another a study in the concealment of failure."

CP: "Joan, apparently, suo jure Baroness Cobham, only surv. da. and h. (by the 2nd husband, Sir Reynold Braybrooke), was, at her mother's death, wife of Sir Thomas Brooke."

Saul [p. 31]: "The responsibility of finding a husband for her [Joan Braybrooke] was undertaken by Oldcastle. By an agreement made on 20 February 1410 Joan was contracted to marry the son of a west-country knight, Thomas Brooke. Thomas's father, another Thomas, gave an undertaking to pay Oldcastle 1,300 marks on the day of the wedding, which was to take place before Whit Sunday, and in return the Brookes were assured that Joan Braybrooke, who was aged six, would inherit her mother's possessions. [footnote: Nichols, 'Memorials of the Family of Cobham', 392; 'House of Commons', ii, 375-6.]"

So Joan Braybrooke was born in 1403.

Cheers, ------Brad.1

; Faris (1999, pp. 382-383): [quote]JOAN DE LA POLE, Lady Cobham suo jure, daughter and heiress, was granddaughter and heiress to John Cobham, 3rd Lord Cobham. She was married for the first time at an early age before November 1380 to ROBERT HEMENHALE, Knt., of Polstead Hall in Burnham Norton, Norfolk (with a son William, idiot from birth, who died after 1391 s.p.) He died in September 1391 and was buried in Westminster Abbey. She was married for the second time between September 1391 and February 1392, when still underage, to REYNOLD BRAYBROOKE, Knt., of Cooling Castle, Kent, M.P. for Kent, son of Gerard Braybrooke, Knt., of Colmworth, Co. Bedford, and Horsenden, Co. Buckingham, by Margaret, daughter of John de Longueville, of Orton Longueville, co. Huntingdon. He was born about 1356. They had two sons (died v.p.), and one daughter. SIR REYNOLD BRAYBROOKE was wounded in the attack on the citadel of Sluys in Flanders, and died four months later at Middleburg on the Scheldt on 20 Sep. 1405 s.p.m.s., and was buried in Cobham Church (brass and monumental inscription). She was married for the third time, within a year of his death, as his second wife, to NICHOLAS HAWBERK, Knt. (died 9 Oct. 1407). They had a son John who died as an infant. Within three months of his death she succeeded her grandfather. She was married for the fourth time, as his third wife, before 18 July 1408, to JOHN OLDCASTELL, Knt., of Almeley near Kington, co. Hereford, M.P. for Herefordshire (hanged as a heretic as a Lollard, and a traitor, at St. Giles's Fields, on 25 Dec. 1417). She was married for the fifth time to JOHN HARPENDEN, Knt. (died 1458, buried Westminster Abbey). She died on 13 Jan. 1433/4 s.p.m.s., and was buried in Cobham Church (brass and monumental inscription).
Arch.Cant. 11:87-101 (1870) (Braybrooke arms: Argent, seven mascles 3, 3 and 1, gules). Gen.n.s. 16:85 (1899). CF. 3:345 (1913). V.C.H. Hunts 2:323 (1932). V.CH. Hunts. 3:191-192 (1936), Paget (1977), p.464. Roskell (1992) 2:349-350 ('his fine monumental brass may yet be seen"). Roskell (1992) 3:866. [end quote]

Family 1

Sir Robert Hemenhale Knt., of Polstead Hall d. Sep 1391
Child

Family 2

Sir Reynold Braybrooke Knt., of Cooling Castle, Kent b. c 1356, d. 20 Sep 1405
Child

Family 3

Sir Nicholas Hawberk Knt. d. 9 Oct 1407

Family 5

Sir John Harpenden Knt. d. May 1438

Citations

  1. [S1542] Brad Verity, "Verity 30 Nov 2003 email "Cobham of Cobham Corrections - Part 2"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 30 Nov 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 30 Nov 2003."
  2. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), pp. 382-383. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Braybrooke 9: p. 147. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 383.
  5. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Cobham - Barons Cobham of Kent, p. 125. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  6. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Brooke - Barons Cobham, p. 76.

Baldwin Picot1

M, #7489
FatherMichael Picot Lord of Dodington, Lincolnshire1 d. b 12 Nov 1278
MotherJoan Wake1 d. b 26 May 1314
Last Edited27 Jul 2008

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Braybrooke 6: p. 146. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Margaret Longueville1

F, #7490, b. circa 1296
FatherJohn (II) de Longueville of Overton, Bedfordshire2,3
MotherMargaret Worteley4,5,6,2
Last Edited11 Nov 2019
     Margaret Longueville was born circa 1296; Richardson says "of age in 1317."7 She married Sir Gerard (III) Braybrooke Knt., of Clifton, Colmworth, and Great Barford, Bedfordshire, son of Sir Gerard de Braybrooke Knt., of Clifton and Colmworth, Bedfordshire and Isabel/Elizabeth Dakeny, before 29 March 1350; Richardson says "married on or before Easter 1350."8,2,1,9
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
     1. Mia Farrow Ancestors 2012, Verheecke, José.
     2. Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica, 5th series, 1916-1938 . 9:79.1 Margaret Longueville was also known as Margaret de Longeville.2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret Longueville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00615961&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Braybrooke 9: p. 147. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John (II) de Longeville, of Overton: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00705873&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret Worteley: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00705874&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Nicole Braybrooke: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00232249&tree=LEO
  6. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Shirley 9.i: p. 651.
  7. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Longford 8: p. 460.
  8. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), pp. 382-383. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Gerard (III) Braybrooke, of Colmworth: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00331780&tree=LEO
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Gerard Braybrooke: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00615960&tree=LEO

John (II) de Longueville of Overton, Bedfordshire1,2

M, #7491
Last Edited27 Sep 2019
     John (II) de Longueville of Overton, Bedfordshire married Margaret Worteley.1,2
     John (II) de Longueville of Overton, Bedfordshire was Knight of the Shire for Huntingdonshire.1

Reference: Genealogics cites: Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica, 5th series, 1916-1938 . 9:79, 83.2 John (II) de Longueville of Overton, Bedfordshire was also known as John de Longeville of Overton, Bedfordshire.1

; of Orton Longueville, co. Huntingdon (Faris, 1999, p. 383.)3

Family

Margaret Worteley
Child

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Braybrooke 9: p. 147. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John (II) de Longeville, of Overton: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00705873&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 383. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.

Sir Robert Hemenhale Knt., of Polstead Hall1

M, #7492, d. September 1391
Last Edited2 Dec 2003
     Sir Robert Hemenhale Knt., of Polstead Hall married Joan de la Pole Baroness Cobham, daughter of John de la Pole Knt., of Ashby Avid, Northamptonshire and Joan Cobham, before November 1380; her 1st husband.2,1
Sir Robert Hemenhale Knt., of Polstead Hall died in September 1391.1
     ; Faris (1999) p. 382-383: "[Joan de la Pole] was married for the first time at an early age before November 1380 to ROBERT HEMENHALE, Knt., of Polstead Hall in Burnham Norton, Norfolk (with a son William, idiot from birth, who died after 1391 s.p.) He died in September 1391 and was buried in Westminster Abbey."2

Family

Joan de la Pole Baroness Cobham b. b Nov 1380, d. 13 Jan 1433/34
Child

Citations

  1. [S1542] Brad Verity, "Verity 30 Nov 2003 email "Cobham of Cobham Corrections - Part 2"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 30 Nov 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 30 Nov 2003."
  2. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), pp. 382-383. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.

Sir Nicholas Hawberk Knt.1

M, #7493, d. 9 October 1407
Last Edited2 Dec 2003
     Sir Nicholas Hawberk Knt. married Joan de la Pole Baroness Cobham, daughter of John de la Pole Knt., of Ashby Avid, Northamptonshire and Joan Cobham, in 1406; her 3rd husband; his 2nd wife.2,1
Sir Nicholas Hawberk Knt. died on 9 October 1407.2,1
     ; CP: "She m., 3rdly, within a year of his death, as 2nd wife, Sir Nicholas Hawberk, who d. (leaving by her a son, John, who d. an infant) 9 Oct. 1407, and was bur. in Cobham Church."

Saul [pp. 27-9]: "Joan's next husband was almost certainly found for her by the king. Sir Nicholas Hawberk, a self-made man of apparently limited means, had begun his career, like Braybrooke, in the royal household. He first appears as a king's esquire around 1391, and he was knighted shortly after. [footnote: 'CPR 1388-92', 487; '1391-6', 205. In Nov. 1390, as simply 'Nicholas Hawberk esquire' (not yet 'king's esquire'), he was pardoned at Baldwin Bereford's behest for a murder ('CPR 1388-92', 319).] His origins and background are obscure. He cannot have been related to the Leicestershire gentry family of Hawberk, for his arms are different. [footnote: The Leicestershire Hawberks bore 'argent on a bend sable three knots of rings or' (J. Nichols, 'The History and Antiquities of Leicestershire', 4 vols; London, 1795-1811, ii, pt I, 350).] His name suggests that he was probably of German descent. His coat-of-arms has close affinities with some German blazons, and the triple mount and chapourny partition are better accommodated in the context of Rhenish than English heraldry. [footnote: As noted by Glover, on the evidence of Hawberk's seal, his arms were 'checky argent and gules, a chief nebulee per fess gules and or' (Nichols, 'Memorials of the Family of Cobham', 330).] A reasonable hypothesis may be to see him as a member of the German and Bohemian retinue that came to England in the wake of Richard II's marriage to Anne of Bohemia, the emperor's daughter. If the case for his foreign origin is to be accepted, then he is probably to be identified with the 'Here Nikel Bergo' whom Richard retained in December 1393. Whatever lands, grants and offices he picked up in England, he owed to royal patronage. In 1396 Richard appointed him to the important offices of sheriff and constable of Flint. [footnote: 'CPR 1396-9', 49.] Eight months later he was given the hand in marriage of Maud, widow of John, Lord Le Strange of Knockin (Salop)--a grant which strengthened his position in the Welsh marches. In 1399, in common with many other of Richard's knights, he successfully managed the transition to Lancastrian service. The esteem in which he was held by the new king is indicated by the diplomatic tasks entrusted to him. In 1401 he accompanied Richard's widow, Isabelle, on her return to France, and in the following year, perhaps because of his German origin, he was made one of the escorts for Blanche, the king's daughter, on her journey to Germany to be married. [footnote: Waller, 'The Lords of Cobham', 90.] A few years before this, in September 1400, his wife had died. He was granted custody of her heir, with the prospect of political and financial gains that this offered. [footnote: 'CPR 1399-1401', 424.] But in 1405 he landed a much richer prize: the hand of Reginald Braybrooke's widow, Joan. The marriage was to be short-lived, however. Nicholas died only two years later, in 1407." Later, Saul says: "her one son by Hawberk was stillborn or had died in infancy."1

; Faris (1999) p. 383: "[Joan de la Pole] was married for the third time, within a year of his death, as his second wife, to NICHOLAS HAWBERK, Knt. (died 9 Oct. 1407). They had a son John who died as an infant. Within three months of his death she succeeded her grandfather."

Family

Joan de la Pole Baroness Cobham b. b Nov 1380, d. 13 Jan 1433/34

Citations

  1. [S1542] Brad Verity, "Verity 30 Nov 2003 email "Cobham of Cobham Corrections - Part 2"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 30 Nov 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 30 Nov 2003."
  2. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), pp. 382-383. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.

Sir John Oldcastell Knt., of Almeley, Baron Cobham1

M, #7494, d. 25 December 1417
Last Edited2 Dec 2003
     Sir John Oldcastell Knt., of Almeley, Baron Cobham married Joan de la Pole Baroness Cobham, daughter of John de la Pole Knt., of Ashby Avid, Northamptonshire and Joan Cobham, before 18 July 1408; her 4th husband, his 3rd wife.2,1
Sir John Oldcastell Knt., of Almeley, Baron Cobham died on 25 December 1417.3
     He was leader of the Lollards.1

; Faris (1999) p. 383: "[Joan de la Pole] was married for the fourth time, as his third wife, before 18 July 1408, to JOHN OLDCASTELL, Knt., of Almeley near Kington, co. Hereford, M.P. for Herefordshire (hanged as a heretic as a Lollard, and a traitor, at St. Giles's Fields, on 25 Dec. 1417)."

Family

Joan de la Pole Baroness Cobham b. b Nov 1380, d. 13 Jan 1433/34

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Cobham - Barons Cobham of Kent, p. 125. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 383. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  3. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, pp. 382-383.

Sir John Harpenden Knt.1

M, #7495, d. May 1438
Last Edited2 Dec 2003
     Sir John Harpenden Knt. married Joan de la Pole Baroness Cobham, daughter of John de la Pole Knt., of Ashby Avid, Northamptonshire and Joan Cobham, after 18 July 1408; her 5th husband.2,1
Sir John Harpenden Knt. died in May 1438.2,1
     ; CP: "She m., 5thly, Sir John Harpeden, who survived her for 24 years, and d. 1458, being bur. in Westm. Abbey."

Saul [pp. 30-1]: "Joan's fifth and last husband was another soldier. This was Sir John Harpedon, scion of a Poitevin noble family..." Later, Saul says [p. 216]: "His family background is obscure. His name suggests that he was descended from Sir John Harpedon, the Poitevin knight who was seneschal of Saintongue in the 1370s. [footnote: For his career, on which the Anonimalle chronicler was well-informed, see 'The Anonimalle Chronicle 1333 to 1381', ed. V.H. Galbraith (Manchester, 1927), 115,116,188.] This John Harpedon's son, another John, acquired the lordship of Belleville and entered French allegiance, rising to the office of chamberlain to Charles VI.
[footnote: The younger John's French allegiance was noted in his father's inquisition in 1396: 'CIPM', xvii, no. 289. For the role of the younger John in French politics, see J.B. henneman, 'Olivier de Clisson and Political Society in France under Charles V and Charles VI' (Philadelphia, 1996), 139,203, 312 n.49. He acquired the lordship of Belleville by his father's marriage to Jeanne, Olivier de Clisson's sister; for the Clisson genealogy, see ibid. 205.] Although it cannot be proved, there is a fair likelihood that John Harpedon, Joan's husband, was this second John's son. [footnote: In his inquisition post mortem of 1438, his father was said to have been called 'John': PRO, C139/86/28m.10.] It is conceivable that burial in [Westminster] abbey was his reward for entering English allegiance."

Saul [p. 218]: "In his final years he [Harpedon] lived in England. For the duration of his marriage to Joan he had control of the Cobham and de la Pole inheritances jure uxoris. [footnote: It is not known when he married Joan. A terminus ante quem of June 1428 is provided by a reference in Glover's notes to an indenture which he possessed containing evidences relating to the descent of the Cobham estates: Nichols, 'Memorials of the Family of Cobham', 341.] But after Joan's death, he had to live largely on his patrimonial estates, which were less ample. [footnote: He was lord of Harpsden (Oxon.): 'Feudal Aids', iv, 200. According to his inquisition, he also held Swinbrook in the same county (PRO, C139/86/28). In an exchequer court case of 1434 he was described as 'of Berkshire' (BL, Harley Roll C30); so presumably he held lands there too. Again according to his inquisition, in Huntingdonshire he held the former de la Pole manors of Everton and Offord by life grant from his wife's daughter and her husband Sir Thomas Brooke. There were no children by his marriage to Joan; his heir was said to be Isabella, wife of Robert Olyver, esquire, the daughter of Elizabeth, daughter of Gilbert, brother of Harpedon's father John (PRO, C139/86/28).]"

Saul [p. 31]: "John survived his elderly wife by a little over four years. The latter died on 13 January 1434, and her husband in May 1438. [footnote: PRO, C139/86/28: not 1458, as Waller, 'The Lords of Cobham', 99.]1

; Faris (1999) p. 383: "[Joan de la Pole] She was married for the fifth time to JOHN HARPENDEN, Knt. (died 1458, buried Westminster Abbey)."

Family

Joan de la Pole Baroness Cobham b. b Nov 1380, d. 13 Jan 1433/34

Citations

  1. [S1542] Brad Verity, "Verity 30 Nov 2003 email "Cobham of Cobham Corrections - Part 2"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 30 Nov 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 30 Nov 2003."
  2. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 383. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.

John de la Pole Knt., of Ashby Avid, Northamptonshire1

M, #7496, d. before 20 August 1367
FatherSir William de la Pole Knt., of Kingston upon Hull, Yorkshire2 d. b 1 Oct 1366
MotherMargaret Peverel2 b. c 1331
Last Edited1 Jan 2009
     John de la Pole Knt., of Ashby Avid, Northamptonshire married Joan Cobham, daughter of John de Cobham 3rd Lord Cobham and Lady Margaret de Courtenay, circa 21 October 1362.3,2
John de la Pole Knt., of Ashby Avid, Northamptonshire died before 20 August 1367.3
     John de la Pole Knt., of Ashby Avid, Northamptonshire lived at Ashby David, Northamptonshire, England.4

; Faris (1999) p. 382: "JOAN COBHAM, only daughter and heiress in her issue, was married, with contract dated 21 Oct. 1362, to JOHN DE LA POLE, Knt., of Ashby David, co. Northampton, Potton, co. Bedford, and Grymston, Suffolk, son and heir of William de la Pole, Knt. of Ashby David, and of Kingston upon Hull, West Riding, co. York, by Margaret, daughter of Edmund Peverel, of Castle Ashby. SIR JOHN DE LA POLE died shortly before 20 Aug. 1367. His widow died about 1404 v.p. They were buried at Chrishall, Essex, with monumental inscription in French bearing three escutcheons of arms for de la Pole and Cobham.
Arch.Cant. 11:87 (1870). Somerset Arch.Nat.Hist.Soc. 44:1-78 (1898). Gen.n.s. 16:85 (1899). Gen.n.s. 16:85 (1899). Papal Letters 5:627 (1904). C.P. (1913) 3:345. Cal.Pat.Rolls, 1367-1370, p. 3 (1913). V.C.H. Hunts 2:323 (1932). V.C.H. Northants 4:233 (1937)."3

Family

Joan Cobham b. 1355, d. c 1404
Child

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Lisle 10.i: p. 452. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Lisle 10: pp. 451-452.
  3. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 382. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  4. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 383.

Joan Cobham

F, #7497, b. 1355, d. circa 1404
FatherJohn de Cobham 3rd Lord Cobham d. 10 Jan 1407/8
MotherLady Margaret de Courtenay1 d. 2 Aug 1385
Last Edited1 Jan 2009
     Joan Cobham was buried at Chrishall, co. Essex, England.2

She was born in 1355; CP: "Sir John de la Pole, of Chrishall, Essex (s. of Sir William de la Pole, of Castle Ashby), by Joan, only child of John, Lord Cobham abovenamed, which last named Joan (who m. in 1362, cont. dat. 21 Oct.).."

Saul [p. 26]: "The couple's only child--or, at least, their only surviving child--was a daughter, Joan. While the girl was still an infant, John secured her betrothal to Sir John de la Pole of Castle Ashby (Northants.)" Later [p. 196] Saul states "Joan Cobham was betrothed to John de la Pole when she was seven".

If the 1362 date was what Saul was working from, then Joan Cobham was born in 1355.

Saul [p. 26]: "The match was a promising one. Sir John was a wealthy man. He owned six manors in Northamptonshire and Suffolk, and another seven elsewhere. [footnote: L.H. Butler, 'Robert Braybrooke, Bishop of London (1381-1404), and his Kinsmen' (Univ. of Oxford D.Phil. thesis, 1952), 94-6.]"

If CP's 1362 marriage date is correct, Sir John de la Pole had not yet inherited the family estates - his father Sir William de la Pole was still alive in 1364. John was, apparently, of age in 1362, though, for Saul states [p. 202]: "Sometime before 1361, Sir William granted the manor of Potton (Beds.) to his son and heir Sir John. [footnote: 'CPR 1358-61', 584.]"3

She married John de la Pole Knt., of Ashby Avid, Northamptonshire, son of Sir William de la Pole Knt., of Kingston upon Hull, Yorkshire and Margaret Peverel, circa 21 October 1362.2,4
Joan Cobham died circa 1404.2

Family

John de la Pole Knt., of Ashby Avid, Northamptonshire d. b 20 Aug 1367
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lady Margaret Courtenay: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028638&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 382. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  3. [S1541] Brad Verity, "Verity 26 Nov 2003email "Cobham of Cobham Corrections - Part 1"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 26 Nov 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 26 Nov 2003."
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Lisle 10: pp. 451-452. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Sir William de la Pole Knt., of Kingston upon Hull, Yorkshire1

M, #7498, d. before 1 October 1366
FatherSir Richard de la Pole Knt., of Kingston upon Hull, Yorkshire1
MotherJoan (?)1
Last Edited1 Jan 2009
     Sir William de la Pole Knt., of Kingston upon Hull, Yorkshire married Margaret Peverel, daughter of Sir Edmund Peverel Knt., of Castle Ashby, Northamptonshire and Elizabeth de Lisle.2,1
Sir William de la Pole Knt., of Kingston upon Hull, Yorkshire died before 1 October 1366; Richardson says died "shortly before."1
     ; Faris (1999) p. 382: "William de la Pole, Knt. of Ashby David, and of Kingston upon Hull, West Riding, co. York."3

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Lisle 10: pp. 451-452. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 382. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  3. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, PP. 382.

Margaret Peverel1

F, #7499, b. circa 1331
FatherSir Edmund Peverel Knt., of Castle Ashby, Northamptonshire2 b. 29 Sep 1306, d. 12 Mar 1331
MotherElizabeth de Lisle2 d. b 28 Jan 1348
Last Edited1 Jan 2009
     Margaret Peverel married Sir William de la Pole Knt., of Kingston upon Hull, Yorkshire, son of Sir Richard de la Pole Knt., of Kingston upon Hull, Yorkshire and Joan (?).3,1 Margaret Peverel was born circa 1331; Richardson say "aged 18 in 1349."1

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Lisle 10: pp. 451-452. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Lisle 9: p. 451.
  3. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 382. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.

Sir Edmund Peverel Knt., of Castle Ashby, Northamptonshire1

M, #7500, b. 29 September 1306, d. 12 March 1331
FatherSir Robert Peverel Knt., of Castle Ashby, Northamptonshire1 d. c 1318
MotherAlice (?)1
Last Edited1 Jan 2009
     Sir Edmund Peverel Knt., of Castle Ashby, Northamptonshire was born on 29 September 1306.1 He married Elizabeth de Lisle, daughter of Robert de Lisle Knt., 1st Lord Lisle of Rougement and Margaret de Beauchamp, before 1330.1
Sir Edmund Peverel Knt., of Castle Ashby, Northamptonshire died on 12 March 1331 at age 24.1
     

Family

Elizabeth de Lisle d. b 28 Jan 1348
Child

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Lisle 9: p. 451. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 382. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.