Sir Edmund Thorpe Knt., 5th Lord Thorpe, of Aswellthorpe, Norfolk1,2
M, #12481, b. 1357, d. 1418
Father | Edmund de Thorpe3 b. 1328 |
Mother | Joan Baynard3 b. 1334 |
Last Edited | 8 Oct 2020 |
Sir Edmund Thorpe Knt., 5th Lord Thorpe, of Aswellthorpe, Norfolk was born in 1357 at Ashwellthorpe (Near Wymondham), co. Norfolk, England.3 He married Joan de Northwood, daughter of John de Northwode 3rd Lord Northwode and Joan Hert, before 1388
; he 2nd husband.4,5,2
Sir Edmund Thorpe Knt., 5th Lord Thorpe, of Aswellthorpe, Norfolk died in 1418 at Louviers, Normandy, France.6,7
He was Lord Thorpe.6
Sir Edmund Thorpe Knt., 5th Lord Thorpe, of Aswellthorpe, Norfolk lived at Ashwellthorpe, co. Norfolk, England.6 Sir Edmund Thorpe Knt., 5th Lord Thorpe, of Aswellthorpe, Norfolk was also known as Edmund de Thorpe Lord Thorpe.3
; he 2nd husband.4,5,2
Sir Edmund Thorpe Knt., 5th Lord Thorpe, of Aswellthorpe, Norfolk died in 1418 at Louviers, Normandy, France.6,7
He was Lord Thorpe.6
Sir Edmund Thorpe Knt., 5th Lord Thorpe, of Aswellthorpe, Norfolk lived at Ashwellthorpe, co. Norfolk, England.6 Sir Edmund Thorpe Knt., 5th Lord Thorpe, of Aswellthorpe, Norfolk was also known as Edmund de Thorpe Lord Thorpe.3
Family | Joan de Northwood b. c 1354, d. 1415 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Cheyne 11.ii: pp. 206-207. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Rochford 12: p. 610.
- [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001.
- [S1217] e-mail address, updated 25 Aug 2001, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1590432&id=I22144
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Northwood: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00109392&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 136-33, pp. 120-121. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1217] e-mail address, updated 25 Aug 2001, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1590432&id=I22143
Elizabeth Cokayne of Bury, Hatley, Beds.1,2,3,4
F, #12482
Father | Sir John Cokayne of Hatley Cokayne, Bedfordshire5,6,7,3 d. 22 May 1429 |
Mother | Edith/Ida de Grey5,8,7,3 d. 1 Jun 1426 |
Last Edited | 7 Oct 2020 |
Elizabeth Cokayne of Bury, Hatley, Beds. married Sir Philip le Boteler Knt., of Watton Woodhall and Sele, Hertfordshire, son of Phillip le Boteler and Elizabeth/Isabel (?),
; her 1st husband.2,4,3,9 Elizabeth Cokayne of Bury, Hatley, Beds. married Sir Laurence Cheyne of Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire, son of Sir William Cheney Knt., of Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire and Katherine Pabenham, on 13 December 1421
; date of license.10,5,4,3,11
; van de Pas cites: The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: Q 115076.3 Elizabeth Cokayne of Bury, Hatley, Beds. was living in 1422.10,4
; her 1st husband.2,4,3,9 Elizabeth Cokayne of Bury, Hatley, Beds. married Sir Laurence Cheyne of Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire, son of Sir William Cheney Knt., of Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire and Katherine Pabenham, on 13 December 1421
; date of license.10,5,4,3,11
; van de Pas cites: The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: Q 115076.3 Elizabeth Cokayne of Bury, Hatley, Beds. was living in 1422.10,4
Family 1 | Sir Philip le Boteler Knt., of Watton Woodhall and Sele, Hertfordshire b. 1388, d. 5 Nov 1420 |
Child |
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Family 2 | Sir Laurence Cheyne of Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire b. c 1396, d. 31 Dec 1461 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S752] Marcellus Donald Alexander R. von Redlich, compiler, Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. I (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1941 (1988 reprint)), p. 147. Hereinafter cited as von Redlich [1941] Charlemagne Desc. vol I.
- [S1989] Emmett L. Butler, "Butler email 29 Oct 2005: "Wem and Oversley Boteler Update"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Butler email 29 Oct 2005."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Cockayne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00214604&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Cheyne 11: p. 206. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
- [S1789] MJ Carr, "Carr email 16 Aug 2005: "Re: Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to Greg Vaut, 16 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Carr email 16 Aug 2005."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Cockayne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00214605&tree=LEO
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Cheyne 10: p. 206.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Edith|Ida de Grey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00337223&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Philip le Boteler: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00528368&tree=LEO
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 136-32, p. 120. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Peyton 13: p. 580.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mary Cheyne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177516&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Lawrence Cheyne, of Fen Ditton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177517&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Cheyne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108739&tree=LEO
Nichole de Cantelowe1,2,3
F, #12483
Father | William (II) de Cantelou of Calne, co. Wilts3,4,5,6 b. c 1185, d. bt 22 Feb 1250 - 1251 |
Mother | Melisende/Millicent de Gournay Countess of Evreux3,5,7 d. 1260 |
Reference | GAV20 |
Last Edited | 1 Sep 2019 |
Nichole de Cantelowe married Robert Marmion
; her 1st husband.8 Nichole de Cantelowe married Geoffrey de Lucy Baron de Lucy, of Newington, Kent, Dallington, Northamptonshire, etc., son of Geoffrey de Lucy of Newington, Kent, etc. and Juliane le Despenser, before 3 December 1235
; her 2nd husband.2,9,5,10
GAV-20. Nichole de Cantelowe was also known as Nichole de Cantaloup.5 Nichole de Cantelowe was also known as Nichole de Cantilupe.5
; her 1st husband.8 Nichole de Cantelowe married Geoffrey de Lucy Baron de Lucy, of Newington, Kent, Dallington, Northamptonshire, etc., son of Geoffrey de Lucy of Newington, Kent, etc. and Juliane le Despenser, before 3 December 1235
; her 2nd husband.2,9,5,10
GAV-20. Nichole de Cantelowe was also known as Nichole de Cantaloup.5 Nichole de Cantelowe was also known as Nichole de Cantilupe.5
Family 1 | Robert Marmion |
Family 2 | Geoffrey de Lucy Baron de Lucy, of Newington, Kent, Dallington, Northamptonshire, etc. d. 1252 |
Children |
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Citations
- Family name from Richardson.
- [S1790] Brice Clagett, "Clagett email 18 Aug 2005 "Descendants of Sir Richard Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 18 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Clagett email 18 Aug 2005."
- [S3425] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 28 May 2016: "C.P. Addition: New light on the parentage of Maud de Lucy, wife of Sir Gilbert de Segrave, 1st Lord Segrave (died 1295)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 28 May 2016. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 28 May 2016."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Canteloup: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199027&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Nichole de Cantaloup: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00573561&tree=LEO
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 47, de CANTELOU 3:vi. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Melisende de Gournay: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199028&tree=LEO
- [S1784] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 29 July 2005 "Re: Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/F9_d7JZUuk0/m/5jgR9n064yQJ) to e-mail address, 29 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 29 July 2005."
- [S1799] David Utz, "Utz email #2 20 Aug 2005 "Descents from Rohese of Boulogne to Robert Abell"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 20 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #2 20 Aug 2005."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Geoffrey de Lucy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00573560&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud de Lucy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139731&tree=LEO
Sir William Cheney Knt., of Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire1
M, #12484, d. circa 1394
Father | John Cheney |
Mother | Joan Muschet |
Last Edited | 6 Oct 2020 |
Sir William Cheney Knt., of Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire married Katherine Pabenham, daughter of Sir Laurence Pabenham Knt. and Elizabeth Engaine.2
Sir William Cheney Knt., of Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire died circa 1394.2
He was Sheriff of Cambridge and Huntingdon.2
Sir William Cheney Knt., of Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire lived at Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire, England.2 Sir William Cheney Knt., of Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire was also known as Sir William Cheyne.
Sir William Cheney Knt., of Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire died circa 1394.2
He was Sheriff of Cambridge and Huntingdon.2
Sir William Cheney Knt., of Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire lived at Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire, England.2 Sir William Cheney Knt., of Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire was also known as Sir William Cheyne.
Family | Katherine Pabenham b. 1372, d. 17 Jun 1436 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Cheyne 11: p. 206. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 136-31, p. 120. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Lawrence Cheyne, of Fen Ditton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177517&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
Katherine Pabenham1,2,3
F, #12485, b. 1372, d. 17 June 1436
Father | Sir Laurence Pabenham Knt.4,1,2,3 b. 1334, d. 10 Jun 1399 |
Mother | Elizabeth Engaine5,1 b. c 1341, d. c 1387 |
Reference | GKJ16 |
Last Edited | 14 Nov 2020 |
Katherine Pabenham married Sir William Cheney Knt., of Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire, son of John Cheney and Joan Muschet.6
Katherine Pabenham was born in 1372.6,1 She married Sir Thomas Aylesbury Knt., of Milton Keynes, son of Sir John Aylesbury and Isabel le Strange, after 1394.6,1,3
Katherine Pabenham died on 17 June 1436.6,1
Katherine Pabenham lived at Eaton, Bedfordshire, England.6
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 4th & 5th edition , Frederick Weis, Reference: 72
2. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: Q 116508.1
Katherine Pabenham lived at Ilchester and Laxton, Northamptonshire, England.6 GKJ-16.
Katherine Pabenham was born in 1372.6,1 She married Sir Thomas Aylesbury Knt., of Milton Keynes, son of Sir John Aylesbury and Isabel le Strange, after 1394.6,1,3
Katherine Pabenham died on 17 June 1436.6,1
Katherine Pabenham lived at Eaton, Bedfordshire, England.6
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 4th & 5th edition , Frederick Weis, Reference: 72
2. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: Q 116508.1
Katherine Pabenham lived at Ilchester and Laxton, Northamptonshire, England.6 GKJ-16.
Family 1 | Sir Thomas Aylesbury Knt., of Milton Keynes b. c 1369, d. 9 Sep 1418 |
Children |
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Family 2 | Sir William Cheney Knt., of Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire d. c 1394 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Catherine Pabenham: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00316202&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Cheyne 11: p. 206. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Hastang 12: p. 384.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Lawrence Pabenham: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00316203&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Engaine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00340671&tree=LEO
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 136-31, p. 120. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabel Aylesbury: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00316197&tree=LEO
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Braybrooke 10: p. 148.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleanor Aylesbury: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00113895&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Lawrence Cheyne, of Fen Ditton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177517&tree=LEO
Sir Thomas Aylesbury Knt., of Milton Keynes1,2,3
M, #12486, b. circa 1369, d. 9 September 1418
Father | Sir John Aylesbury1,2 b. c 1345, d. 1410 |
Mother | Isabel le Strange2 |
Reference | GKJ16 |
Last Edited | 7 Oct 2020 |
Sir Thomas Aylesbury Knt., of Milton Keynes was born circa 1369.4,2 He married Katherine Pabenham, daughter of Sir Laurence Pabenham Knt. and Elizabeth Engaine, after 1394.4,5,3
Sir Thomas Aylesbury Knt., of Milton Keynes died on 9 September 1418.4,2
Sir Thomas Aylesbury Knt., of Milton Keynes lived at Blatherwick, Northamptonshire, England.4 GKJ-16.
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: Q 116508
2. Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 4th & 5th edition , Frederick Weis, Reference: 72
3. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to Amercia bef.1700 7th Edition, Frederick Lewis Weis, Reference: Page 160.2
Sir Thomas Aylesbury Knt., of Milton Keynes lived at Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire, England.4
; Weis MCS 28-10.6
; "The male line of Sir John Aylesbury failed with his son, Sir Thomas, who left two daus., co-heiresses, viz., (I) Isabel, wife of Sir Thomas Chaworth, Knt., (II) Eleanor, m. to Humphrey Stafford, of Grafton."1
Sir Thomas Aylesbury Knt., of Milton Keynes died on 9 September 1418.4,2
Sir Thomas Aylesbury Knt., of Milton Keynes lived at Blatherwick, Northamptonshire, England.4 GKJ-16.
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: Q 116508
2. Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 4th & 5th edition , Frederick Weis, Reference: 72
3. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to Amercia bef.1700 7th Edition, Frederick Lewis Weis, Reference: Page 160.2
Sir Thomas Aylesbury Knt., of Milton Keynes lived at Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire, England.4
; Weis MCS 28-10.6
; "The male line of Sir John Aylesbury failed with his son, Sir Thomas, who left two daus., co-heiresses, viz., (I) Isabel, wife of Sir Thomas Chaworth, Knt., (II) Eleanor, m. to Humphrey Stafford, of Grafton."1
Family | Katherine Pabenham b. 1372, d. 17 Jun 1436 |
Children |
Citations
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited & Extinct Peerages, p. 26. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Thomas Aylesbury, of Milton Keynes: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00316201&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Hastang 12: p. 384. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 136-31, p. 120. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Catherine Pabenham: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00316202&tree=LEO
- [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 28-10, p. 36. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5. - [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabel Aylesbury: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00316197&tree=LEO
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Braybrooke 10: p. 148.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleanor Aylesbury: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00113895&tree=LEO
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Deighton 12: p. 261.
John Cheney
M, #12487
Last Edited | 6 Oct 2020 |
John Cheney married Joan Muschet.1
John Cheney lived at Long Stanton, Cambridgeshire, England.1 John Cheney was also known as John Cheyne.
John Cheney lived at Long Stanton, Cambridgeshire, England.1 John Cheney was also known as John Cheyne.
Family | Joan Muschet |
Child |
Citations
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 136-31, p. 120. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
Joan Muschet
F, #12488
Last Edited | 14 Nov 2020 |
Family | John Cheney |
Child |
Citations
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 136-31, p. 120. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
Sir Laurence Pabenham Knt.1
M, #12489, b. 1334, d. 10 June 1399
Father | Thomas de Pabenham2 d. 26 Feb 1345 |
Mother | (?) de Offord3 |
Last Edited | 8 Oct 2020 |
Sir Laurence Pabenham Knt. married Elizabeth Engaine, daughter of Sir John Engaine of Laxton, 1st Lord Engaine and Joan Peverel.4,5,6
Sir Laurence Pabenham Knt. was born in 1334.4,1
Sir Laurence Pabenham Knt. died on 10 June 1399.4,1
GKJ-17.
Sir Laurence Pabenham Knt. lived at Pabenham, Bedfordshire, England.4
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: Q 116508
2. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to Amercia bef.1700 7th Edition, Frederick Lewis Weis, Reference: Page 160
3. The Complete Peerage 1936 , H.A.Doubleday & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 78.1 Sir Laurence Pabenham Knt. was also known as Sir Laurence de Pabenham Knt.7 He was Knight of the Shire between 1378 and 1383.4
Sir Laurence Pabenham Knt. was born in 1334.4,1
Sir Laurence Pabenham Knt. died on 10 June 1399.4,1
GKJ-17.
Sir Laurence Pabenham Knt. lived at Pabenham, Bedfordshire, England.4
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: Q 116508
2. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to Amercia bef.1700 7th Edition, Frederick Lewis Weis, Reference: Page 160
3. The Complete Peerage 1936 , H.A.Doubleday & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 78.1 Sir Laurence Pabenham Knt. was also known as Sir Laurence de Pabenham Knt.7 He was Knight of the Shire between 1378 and 1383.4
Family | Elizabeth Engaine b. c 1341, d. c 1387 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Lawrence Pabenham: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00316203&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas de Pabenham, of Pabenham: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00673963&tree=LEO
- [S1994] MJ Carr, "Carr email 8 Nov 2005: "John de Offord +1349"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 8 Nov 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Carr email 8 Nov 2005."
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 136-30, p. 120. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Engaine - Barons Engaine, p. 189. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Engaine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00340671&tree=LEO
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Cheyne 11: p. 206. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Catherine Pabenham: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00316202&tree=LEO
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Hastang 12: p. 384.
Elizabeth Engaine1,2
F, #12490, b. circa 1341, d. circa 1387
Father | Sir John Engaine of Laxton, 1st Lord Engaine1,3,2,4 b. 30 May 1302, d. 16 Feb 1357/58 |
Mother | Joan Peverel1,5,2 d. a 1358 |
Reference | GKJ17 |
Last Edited | 14 Nov 2020 |
Elizabeth Engaine married Sir Laurence Pabenham Knt., son of Thomas de Pabenham and (?) de Offord.6,1,2
Elizabeth Engaine was born circa 1341.6,2
Elizabeth Engaine died circa 1387; Weis: "in or before 1387."6,2
Elizabeth Engaine lived at Colne Engaine, Laxton, Northamptonshire, England.6
Elizabeth Engaine lived at Dillington, Huntingdonshire, England.6,1
Elizabeth Engaine lived at Laxton, Northamptonshire, England.6 GKJ-17.
Elizabeth Engaine was born circa 1341.6,2
Elizabeth Engaine died circa 1387; Weis: "in or before 1387."6,2
Elizabeth Engaine lived at Colne Engaine, Laxton, Northamptonshire, England.6
Elizabeth Engaine lived at Dillington, Huntingdonshire, England.6,1
Elizabeth Engaine lived at Laxton, Northamptonshire, England.6 GKJ-17.
Family | Sir Laurence Pabenham Knt. b. 1334, d. 10 Jun 1399 |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Engaine - Barons Engaine, p. 189. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Engaine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00340671&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John Engaine, of Laxtonhttp://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429163&tree=LEO
- [S1971] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005: "Ancestry of the Lords Fauconberg: Thomas fitz Richard de Cuckney"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Peverel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429164&tree=LEO
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 136-30, p. 120. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Catherine Pabenham: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00316202&tree=LEO
Thomas de Pabenham
M, #12491, d. 26 February 1345
Father | John de Pabenham1 b. 1275 |
Mother | Elizabeth de Criol1 b. 1282, d. 1345 |
Reference | GKJ18 |
Last Edited | 13 Nov 2020 |
Thomas de Pabenham married Alice (?)
;
Her 1st husband.2,3,4 Thomas de Pabenham married (?) de Offord.5
Thomas de Pabenham died on 26 February 1345.2,4
GKJ-18.
Thomas de Pabenham lived at Pabenham, Bedfordshire, England.2
Reference: Weis [1992:120]: Line 136-30.2
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Carr email [2005]:
"Ancestral to the later Pabenhams are the de Offords. Chris Phillips has very generously provided me with copies of his notes on the Pabenhams and their related lines, which are close to the top of my "to-do" pile and on which I hope to post shortly (together with an interesting and challenging Eylesford will from Michael Miller).
"Meanwhile, herewith are some notes on the de Offords; Sir Lawrence Pabenham (d 1399) was son of Sir Thomas Pabenham (d 1344) by a Miss de Offord, sister of the following two brothers:
"VCH Hunts, vol II, sub Offord Darcy and Offord Cluny, notes the connection with John de Offord, and names other de Offordsm, but offers no further relevant genealogical material.
MAR.5 He was Sheriff of Northamptonshire between 1341 and 1344 at Northamptonshire, England.4
;
Her 1st husband.2,3,4 Thomas de Pabenham married (?) de Offord.5
Thomas de Pabenham died on 26 February 1345.2,4
GKJ-18.
Thomas de Pabenham lived at Pabenham, Bedfordshire, England.2
Reference: Weis [1992:120]: Line 136-30.2
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Wallop Family and Their Ancestry 1928 , Watney, Vernon James. 602.
2. Ancestor list of Lucy and Emily O'Connor 2015 , O'Connor, Robert. 4,145,884.4
2. Ancestor list of Lucy and Emily O'Connor 2015 , O'Connor, Robert. 4,145,884.4
; Per Carr email [2005]:
"Ancestral to the later Pabenhams are the de Offords. Chris Phillips has very generously provided me with copies of his notes on the Pabenhams and their related lines, which are close to the top of my "to-do" pile and on which I hope to post shortly (together with an interesting and challenging Eylesford will from Michael Miller).
"Meanwhile, herewith are some notes on the de Offords; Sir Lawrence Pabenham (d 1399) was son of Sir Thomas Pabenham (d 1344) by a Miss de Offord, sister of the following two brothers:
"(1) John de Offord (c1290-1349); "presumably born at Offord, Huntingdonshire; in 13332 had custody of lands there pending the majority of the heir; fellow of Merton COllege, Oxford, 1315; MA; DCL; Dean, Court of the Arches; diplomat; proctor at the papal Court, Avignon, 1339-40; Keeper, Privy Seal, 1342-4, and of the Great Seal, 1342-3; Lord Chancellor from 26.10.1345 to death; Rector of Deepdale, Norfolk, 1316; canon of St Paul's, 1327; prebendary of St Chad's, Shrewsbury by 1330; canon of Lincoln, 1331; Archdeacon of Ely, 1335-44; Dean of Lincoln, 1344; also canon of York, Wells, Salisbury and Hereford; appointed to the see of Canterbury, 24.9.1348 but died at Tottenham of the plague before consecration, 20.5.1349" [ODNB]
"(2) Andrew de Offord (c1305-c1358); "DCL, Oxford; chancellor, Worcester; canon of Salisbury, St Paul's and York; provost of Wells; Archdeacon of Middlesex; rector of Over, Cambs; chancery clerk; diplomat; co-keeper of the Great Seal, 1353; died at Avignon" (ODNB)
"(2) Andrew de Offord (c1305-c1358); "DCL, Oxford; chancellor, Worcester; canon of Salisbury, St Paul's and York; provost of Wells; Archdeacon of Middlesex; rector of Over, Cambs; chancery clerk; diplomat; co-keeper of the Great Seal, 1353; died at Avignon" (ODNB)
"VCH Hunts, vol II, sub Offord Darcy and Offord Cluny, notes the connection with John de Offord, and names other de Offordsm, but offers no further relevant genealogical material.
MAR.5 He was Sheriff of Northamptonshire between 1341 and 1344 at Northamptonshire, England.4
Family 1 | Alice (?) d. b 1354 |
Family 2 | (?) de Offord |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1590432&id=I11860
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 136-30, p. 120. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00673964&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas de Pabenham, of Pabenham: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00673963&tree=LEO
- [S1994] MJ Carr, "Carr email 8 Nov 2005: "John de Offord +1349"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 8 Nov 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Carr email 8 Nov 2005."
Alice (?)1
F, #12492, d. before 1354
Reference | EDV22 |
Last Edited | 24 May 2020 |
Alice (?) married Thomas de Pabenham, son of John de Pabenham and Elizabeth de Criol,
;
Her 1st husband.2,1,3 Alice (?) married Sir William Croyser of Stoke Dabernon after 1345
;
Her 2nd husband; her 1st husband d. 1344/5.4,1
Alice (?) died before 1354.1
EDV-22.
.
Reference: Genealogics cites: Ancestor list of Lucy and Emily O'Connor 2015 , O'Connor, Robert. 4,145,885.1
Reference: Weis [1992:120]: Line 136-30.2
;
Her 1st husband.2,1,3 Alice (?) married Sir William Croyser of Stoke Dabernon after 1345
;
Her 2nd husband; her 1st husband d. 1344/5.4,1
Alice (?) died before 1354.1
EDV-22.
.
Reference: Genealogics cites: Ancestor list of Lucy and Emily O'Connor 2015 , O'Connor, Robert. 4,145,885.1
Reference: Weis [1992:120]: Line 136-30.2
Family 1 | Thomas de Pabenham d. 26 Feb 1345 |
Family 2 | Sir William Croyser of Stoke Dabernon d. bt 10 Apr 1387 - 5 May 1387 |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00673964&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 136-30, p. 120. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas de Pabenham, of Pabenham: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00673963&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William Croyser (Crozier), of Stoke Dabernon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00673965&tree=LEO
Sir John Engaine of Laxton, 1st Lord Engaine1,2
M, #12493, b. 30 May 1302, d. 16 February 1357/58
Father | Sir Nicholas Engaine Colne Engaine, Essex and Coton, Cambridgeshire1,2,3 d. bt 4 Dec 1322 - 10 Dec 1322 |
Mother | Amice/Anice de Faucomberge1,2,3 d. a 1323 |
Last Edited | 6 Oct 2020 |
Sir John Engaine of Laxton, 1st Lord Engaine was born on 30 May 1302.4,2 He married Joan Peverel, daughter of Sir Robert Peverel Knt., of Castle Ashby, Northamptonshire and Alice (?), on 12 November 1318.4,1,5,2
Sir John Engaine of Laxton, 1st Lord Engaine died on 16 February 1357/58 at Dillington, Huntingdonshire, England, at age 55.4,1,2
; "John de Engaine (son of Nicholas de Engaine, by Amicia, dau. of Walter Fauconberg), who making proof of his age had livery of his estates. This John, in the 19th Edward III, then residing in Huntingdonshire, had a military summons to attend the king into France, and was summoned to parliament as a Baron from 25 February, 1342, to 20 November, 1360. His lordship had previously the high military rank of knight banneret. He m. Joane, dau. of Sir Robert Peverell, and had issue,
Thomase, his successor.
Joyce, m. to John de Goldington.
Elizabeth, m. to Sir Lawrence Pabenham.
Mary, m. to Sir William Bernak.
His lordship d. at his seat at Dillington, co. Huntingdon, seised of the manors of Haighton, co Leicester; Noteley, in Essex; Handsdon, in Herts; Saundey, in Bedfordshire; Gideling and Dillington, in Huntingdonshire; and Laxton, co. Northampton, in which he was s. by his son, Thomas de Engaine, 2nd Baron..."1
Sir John Engaine of Laxton, 1st Lord Engaine lived at Laxton, Northamptonshire, England.4
Sir John Engaine of Laxton, 1st Lord Engaine lived at Colne Engaine, co. Essex, England.4 GKJ-18. Sir John Engaine of Laxton, 1st Lord Engaine was also known as Sir John de Engaine 2nd Lord Engaine.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage 1936 , H.A.Doubleday & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 75.2 He was 1st Lord (Baron) Engaine; Weis (AR) calls him "2nd Baron Engaine", but Burke's Extinct Peerages considers that the Barony was extinct on the death of his uncle, John de Engaine (named 1st Baron 6 Feb 1299) and that this John's summons to parliament in 1342 constituted a new grant. on 25 February 1342.1,4
Sir John Engaine of Laxton, 1st Lord Engaine died on 16 February 1357/58 at Dillington, Huntingdonshire, England, at age 55.4,1,2
; "John de Engaine (son of Nicholas de Engaine, by Amicia, dau. of Walter Fauconberg), who making proof of his age had livery of his estates. This John, in the 19th Edward III, then residing in Huntingdonshire, had a military summons to attend the king into France, and was summoned to parliament as a Baron from 25 February, 1342, to 20 November, 1360. His lordship had previously the high military rank of knight banneret. He m. Joane, dau. of Sir Robert Peverell, and had issue,
Thomase, his successor.
Joyce, m. to John de Goldington.
Elizabeth, m. to Sir Lawrence Pabenham.
Mary, m. to Sir William Bernak.
His lordship d. at his seat at Dillington, co. Huntingdon, seised of the manors of Haighton, co Leicester; Noteley, in Essex; Handsdon, in Herts; Saundey, in Bedfordshire; Gideling and Dillington, in Huntingdonshire; and Laxton, co. Northampton, in which he was s. by his son, Thomas de Engaine, 2nd Baron..."1
Sir John Engaine of Laxton, 1st Lord Engaine lived at Laxton, Northamptonshire, England.4
Sir John Engaine of Laxton, 1st Lord Engaine lived at Colne Engaine, co. Essex, England.4 GKJ-18. Sir John Engaine of Laxton, 1st Lord Engaine was also known as Sir John de Engaine 2nd Lord Engaine.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage 1936 , H.A.Doubleday & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 75.2 He was 1st Lord (Baron) Engaine; Weis (AR) calls him "2nd Baron Engaine", but Burke's Extinct Peerages considers that the Barony was extinct on the death of his uncle, John de Engaine (named 1st Baron 6 Feb 1299) and that this John's summons to parliament in 1342 constituted a new grant. on 25 February 1342.1,4
Family | Joan Peverel d. a 1358 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Engaine - Barons Engaine, p. 189. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John Engaine, of Laxtonhttp://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429163&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1971] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005: "Ancestry of the Lords Fauconberg: Thomas fitz Richard de Cuckney"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005."
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 136-29, p. 120. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Peverel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429164&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Thomas Engaine, of Laxton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00075130&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joyeuse Engaine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429169&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Engaine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00340671&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mary Engaine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429173&tree=LEO
Joan Peverel1,2
F, #12494, d. after 1358
Father | Sir Robert Peverel Knt., of Castle Ashby, Northamptonshire1,3,2 d. c 1318 |
Mother | Alice (?)4,2 |
Reference | GKJ18 |
Last Edited | 14 Nov 2020 |
Joan Peverel married Sir John Engaine of Laxton, 1st Lord Engaine, son of Sir Nicholas Engaine Colne Engaine, Essex and Coton, Cambridgeshire and Amice/Anice de Faucomberge, on 12 November 1318.5,1,2,6
Joan Peverel died after 1358.5
GKJ-18.
; Leo van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage 1936 , H.A.Doubleday & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 76.2
Joan Peverel died after 1358.5
GKJ-18.
; Leo van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage 1936 , H.A.Doubleday & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 76.2
Family | Sir John Engaine of Laxton, 1st Lord Engaine b. 30 May 1302, d. 16 Feb 1357/58 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Engaine - Barons Engaine, p. 189. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Peverel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429164&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Robert Peverel, of Castle Ashby: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429165&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429166&tree=LEO
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 136-29, p. 120. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John Engaine, of Laxtonhttp://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429163&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Thomas Engaine, of Laxton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00075130&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joyeuse Engaine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429169&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Engaine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00340671&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mary Engaine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429173&tree=LEO
Sir Robert Peverel Knt., of Castle Ashby, Northamptonshire1,2,3
M, #12495, d. circa 1318
Reference | GKJ19 |
Last Edited | 14 Nov 2020 |
Sir Robert Peverel Knt., of Castle Ashby, Northamptonshire married Alice (?)4,5,2
Sir Robert Peverel Knt., of Castle Ashby, Northamptonshire died circa 1318; According to Moore's Knights of Edward I, he bore "goules, a les
crusules patee de or e[t] une fesse de argent"; he held lands in
Northants of at least £20 in value, and was summoned to serve overseas
(1297) and against the Scots (1301); in 1316, he was Lord of Ashby
David and Chadstone, Northants; he died circa 1318, when "certain men
were imprisoned for his death"; custody of his lands were granted to
Robert de Insula during the minority of Edmund, his son and heir (who
was also nephew and heir to Walter, Bishop of Coventry), and the
escheator was ordered to deliver Edmund for his marriage in 1323.6
; Leo van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage 1936 , H.A.Doubleday & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 76.2
Sir Robert Peverel Knt., of Castle Ashby, Northamptonshire lived at Castle Ashby, Northamptonshire, England.4 GKJ-19.
Sir Robert Peverel Knt., of Castle Ashby, Northamptonshire died circa 1318; According to Moore's Knights of Edward I, he bore "goules, a les
crusules patee de or e[t] une fesse de argent"; he held lands in
Northants of at least £20 in value, and was summoned to serve overseas
(1297) and against the Scots (1301); in 1316, he was Lord of Ashby
David and Chadstone, Northants; he died circa 1318, when "certain men
were imprisoned for his death"; custody of his lands were granted to
Robert de Insula during the minority of Edmund, his son and heir (who
was also nephew and heir to Walter, Bishop of Coventry), and the
escheator was ordered to deliver Edmund for his marriage in 1323.6
; Leo van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage 1936 , H.A.Doubleday & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 76.2
Sir Robert Peverel Knt., of Castle Ashby, Northamptonshire lived at Castle Ashby, Northamptonshire, England.4 GKJ-19.
Family | Alice (?) |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Engaine - Barons Engaine, p. 189. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Robert Peverel, of Castle Ashby: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429165&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Lisle 9: p. 451. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 136-29, p. 120. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429166&tree=LEO
- [S2085] Michael Andrews-Reading, "Andrews-Reading email 2 Aug 2006: "Sir Robert Peverel of Ashby Castle"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 2 Aug 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Andrews-Reading email 2 Aug 2006."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Peverel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429164&tree=LEO
Alice (?)1
F, #12496
Last Edited | 6 Oct 2020 |
Alice (?) married Sir Robert Peverel Knt., of Castle Ashby, Northamptonshire.2,1,3
; Leo van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage 1936 , H.A.Doubleday & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 76.1 GKJ-19.
; Weis AR 136-29.2
; Leo van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage 1936 , H.A.Doubleday & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 76.1 GKJ-19.
; Weis AR 136-29.2
Family | Sir Robert Peverel Knt., of Castle Ashby, Northamptonshire d. c 1318 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429166&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 136-29, p. 120. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Robert Peverel, of Castle Ashby: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429165&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Peverel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429164&tree=LEO
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Lisle 9: p. 451. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
Sir Nicholas Engaine Colne Engaine, Essex and Coton, Cambridgeshire1,2,3
M, #12497, d. between 4 December 1322 and 10 December 1322
Father | Sir John I d'Engaine1,3 b. c 1227, d. 5 Jan 1297 |
Mother | Joan de Greinville1,4,3 b. c 1240, d. a 2 Nov 1305 |
Reference | GKJ19 |
Last Edited | 14 Nov 2020 |
Sir Nicholas Engaine Colne Engaine, Essex and Coton, Cambridgeshire married Amice/Anice de Faucomberge, daughter of Sir Walter de Faucomberge 1st Lord Faucomberge and Agnes de Brus.5,1,2,3
Sir Nicholas Engaine Colne Engaine, Essex and Coton, Cambridgeshire died between 4 December 1322 and 10 December 1322.5,2
Sir Nicholas Engaine Colne Engaine, Essex and Coton, Cambridgeshire lived at Colne Engaine, co. Essex, England.5
Sir Nicholas Engaine Colne Engaine, Essex and Coton, Cambridgeshire lived at Coton, Cambridgeshire, England.5 GKJ-19.
Sir Nicholas Engaine Colne Engaine, Essex and Coton, Cambridgeshire died between 4 December 1322 and 10 December 1322.5,2
Sir Nicholas Engaine Colne Engaine, Essex and Coton, Cambridgeshire lived at Colne Engaine, co. Essex, England.5
Sir Nicholas Engaine Colne Engaine, Essex and Coton, Cambridgeshire lived at Coton, Cambridgeshire, England.5 GKJ-19.
Family | Amice/Anice de Faucomberge d. a 1323 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Engaine - Barons Engaine, p. 189. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S1784] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 29 July 2005 "Re: Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/F9_d7JZUuk0/m/5jgR9n064yQJ) to e-mail address, 29 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 29 July 2005."
- [S1971] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005: "Ancestry of the Lords Fauconberg: Thomas fitz Richard de Cuckney"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan de Greinville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00397949&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 136-28, p. 120. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John Engaine, of Laxtonhttp://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429163&tree=LEO
Amice/Anice de Faucomberge1,2
F, #12498, d. after 1323
Father | Sir Walter de Faucomberge 1st Lord Faucomberge1,2,3 b. 1215, d. c 2 Nov 1304 |
Mother | Agnes de Brus2,3 b. 1230, d. b 25 May 1280 |
Last Edited | 8 Oct 2020 |
Amice/Anice de Faucomberge married Sir Nicholas Engaine Colne Engaine, Essex and Coton, Cambridgeshire, son of Sir John I d'Engaine and Joan de Greinville.4,1,2,3
Amice/Anice de Faucomberge died after 1323.4
GKJ-19.
Amice/Anice de Faucomberge died after 1323.4
GKJ-19.
Family | Sir Nicholas Engaine Colne Engaine, Essex and Coton, Cambridgeshire d. bt 4 Dec 1322 - 10 Dec 1322 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Engaine - Barons Engaine, p. 189. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S1784] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 29 July 2005 "Re: Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/F9_d7JZUuk0/m/5jgR9n064yQJ) to e-mail address, 29 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 29 July 2005."
- [S1971] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005: "Ancestry of the Lords Fauconberg: Thomas fitz Richard de Cuckney"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005."
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 136-28, p. 120. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John Engaine, of Laxtonhttp://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429163&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
Sir John I d'Engaine1,2
M, #12499, b. circa 1227, d. 5 January 1297
Father | VeilVitalis Engaine2 b. c 1197, d. 22 Oct 1248 |
Mother | Rohese (?)2 b. c 1197, d. b 1248 |
Reference | EDV20 |
Last Edited | 14 Aug 2019 |
Sir John I d'Engaine was buried at Fineshade Priory, Fineshade-by-Blatherwyke, England. He married Joan de Greinville, daughter of Gilbert de Greinville of Halton and Joyeuse (?),
; Burke's Extinct Peerages says "John Engaine, who m. Joane, dau. and heir of Henry Gray."3,2,4 Sir John I d'Engaine was born circa 1227 at Colne Engaine, Laxton, Northamptonshire, England.
Sir John I d'Engaine died on 5 January 1297 at Priory, Fineshade-by-Blatherwyke, England.3,5
Sir John I d'Engaine lived at Laxton, Northamptonshire, England.3 EDV-20 GKJ-20. Sir John I d'Engaine was also known as Sir John Engaine of Laxton, Northamptonshire.6
; "John Engaine, who m. Joane, dau. and heir of Henry Gray, and dying in 1296, was s. by his son, John de Engaine..."2
; Burke's Extinct Peerages says "John Engaine, who m. Joane, dau. and heir of Henry Gray."3,2,4 Sir John I d'Engaine was born circa 1227 at Colne Engaine, Laxton, Northamptonshire, England.
Sir John I d'Engaine died on 5 January 1297 at Priory, Fineshade-by-Blatherwyke, England.3,5
Sir John I d'Engaine lived at Laxton, Northamptonshire, England.3 EDV-20 GKJ-20. Sir John I d'Engaine was also known as Sir John Engaine of Laxton, Northamptonshire.6
; "John Engaine, who m. Joane, dau. and heir of Henry Gray, and dying in 1296, was s. by his son, John de Engaine..."2
Family | Joan de Greinville b. c 1240, d. a 2 Nov 1305 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 51-4, p. 72. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5. - [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Engaine - Barons Engaine, p. 189. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 136-28, p. 120. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan de Greinville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00397949&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I2233
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, FitzWalter Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1971] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005: "Ancestry of the Lords Fauconberg: Thomas fitz Richard de Cuckney"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005."
- [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I2544
Joan de Greinville1
F, #12500, b. circa 1240, d. after 2 November 1305
Father | Gilbert de Greinville of Halton1,2 b. c 1197, d. a 1243 |
Mother | Joyeuse (?)1,3 b. c 1197, d. 1274 |
Reference | EDV20 |
Last Edited | 11 Dec 2020 |
Joan de Greinville married Sir John I d'Engaine, son of VeilVitalis Engaine and Rohese (?),
; Burke's Extinct Peerages says "John Engaine, who m. Joane, dau. and heir of Henry Gray."4,5,1 Joan de Greinville was born circa 1240 at Hallaton, Leicestershire, England.
Joan de Greinville died after 2 November 1305.
; Leo van de Pas cites: Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, 4th & 5th edition, Weis, Frederick, Reference: 72.1
; Weis AR 136-28.4 EDV-20 GKJ-20.
; Burke's Extinct Peerages says "John Engaine, who m. Joane, dau. and heir of Henry Gray."4,5,1 Joan de Greinville was born circa 1240 at Hallaton, Leicestershire, England.
Joan de Greinville died after 2 November 1305.
; Leo van de Pas cites: Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, 4th & 5th edition, Weis, Frederick, Reference: 72.1
; Weis AR 136-28.4 EDV-20 GKJ-20.
Family | Sir John I d'Engaine b. c 1227, d. 5 Jan 1297 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan de Greinville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00397949&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gilbert de Greinville, of Halton: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00397950&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joyeuse: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00476249&tree=LEO
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 136-28, p. 120. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Engaine - Barons Engaine, p. 189. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S1971] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005: "Ancestry of the Lords Fauconberg: Thomas fitz Richard de Cuckney"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005."
- [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I2544
- [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I2233
William de Courcy
M, #12501
Reference | GAV24 EDV24 |
Last Edited | 21 Dec 2020 |
William de Courcy married Maud d'Avranches Dame du Sap, Lady of Okehampton, daughter of Robert (?) d'Avranches, vicomte d'Avranches, Lord of Okehampton and Havise (?) de Dol,
;
Her 1st husband.1,2,3
GAV-24 EDV-24.
.4
; Per Racines et Histoire (Avranches): “Maud d’Avranches + 21/09/1173 dame du Sap
ép. 1) William de Curcy
ép. 2) 1142 Robert FitzEdith ou FitzRoy + 31/05/1172 (fils bâtard d’Henry 1er et d’Edith of Greystoke)”.3
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE d’Avranches ). "Robti filii Henrici Regis" confirmed the donation of "totam vineam quam Robtus fil Baldewini et Ricardus frater eius" to Exeter St Nicholas, with the consent of "Matillidis filiæ Roberti de Avrenchis et heredis Ricardi filii Baldewini", undated[141]. The heirship of Mathilde to “Ricardi filii Baldewini” (who was a member of a younger branch of the Brionne/Eu family, see above) was through her maternal grandmother, who is recorded as a sister of the brothers Robert and Richard. "Robertus filius Regis Henrici" donated "duos ferlingos in manerio meo Calvalegiæ juxta Cobbalegiam" to Exeter St Nicholas, with the consent of "Matillidis de Abrinco uxoris meæ", by charter dated 1162[142]. The parentage of the wife of Robert FitzEdith is confirmed by a claim, dated 1222, which is recorded by Bracton: "Matillis de Curteney" sued "Robertum de Curtenay" concerning "manerium de Ocumptona", "Robertus" claiming that the land was "hereditas Matillidis de Aueregnes" who had "duas filias…Hawisiam matrem suam primogenitam […filia Gaufridi de Crimes primi viri Matillidis de Auerenches] et…Matillidem", while the claimant Matilda asserted that she had the land in question "ex dono Roberti filii Regis patris eiusdem Matillidis et secundi viri predicte Matillidis de Auerenches"[143]. A different parentage is indicated by the Fundationis et Fundatorum Historia of Ford Abbey which records that “domina Alicia uxor domini Randolphi Avenell filia sua…unicam filiam…Matildam” married “Roberto filio regis Henrici primi notho” after the death of her first husband “Roberto de Abrincis id est de Averinges”[144]. Matilda, daughter of Ranulf Avenell, was the mother of Mathilde d’Avranches. The two charters quoted above indicate that this supposed second marriage of Matilda is not correct. The identity of Mathilde’s first husband is uncertain. Bracton’s report of the 1222 lawsuit which is quoted above identifies him as "Gaufridi de Crimes primi viri Matillidis de Auerenches". However, another claim recorded by Bracton, also dated 1222, identifies him differently: "Matillis de Curtenay" claimed against "Robertum de Curtenay" concerning "manerium de Chamelegha", the defendant stating that "Robertus filius Regis…Matillidem de Auerenches uxorem suam" held the land which was inherited by "Hawisie filie sui matri eiusdem Roberti de Curtenay que fuit filia Willelmi de Curcy viri eiusdem Matillidis"[145]. No other information has yet been found which would resolve this inconsistency. Another outstanding point concerns the date of death of Matilda Avenell, as wife of Robert FitzEdith, as reported in the Ford Abbey document. It is assumed that the date does in fact refer to Matilda Avenell and not to Mathilde d’Avranches, although the point is not beyond all doubt. If that is correct, no indication has been found of the date of death of Mathilde d’Avranches.
"m firstly [GEOFFROY de Crimes/GUILLAUME de Curcy], son of ---.
"m secondly (before 1162) [as his second wife,] ROBERT FitzRoy, illegitimate son of HENRY I King of England & his mistress Edith --- (-31 May [1172])."
Med Lands cites:
;
Her 1st husband.1,2,3
GAV-24 EDV-24.
.4
; Per Racines et Histoire (Avranches): “Maud d’Avranches + 21/09/1173 dame du Sap
ép. 1) William de Curcy
ép. 2) 1142 Robert FitzEdith ou FitzRoy + 31/05/1172 (fils bâtard d’Henry 1er et d’Edith of Greystoke)”.3
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE d’Avranches ). "Robti filii Henrici Regis" confirmed the donation of "totam vineam quam Robtus fil Baldewini et Ricardus frater eius" to Exeter St Nicholas, with the consent of "Matillidis filiæ Roberti de Avrenchis et heredis Ricardi filii Baldewini", undated[141]. The heirship of Mathilde to “Ricardi filii Baldewini” (who was a member of a younger branch of the Brionne/Eu family, see above) was through her maternal grandmother, who is recorded as a sister of the brothers Robert and Richard. "Robertus filius Regis Henrici" donated "duos ferlingos in manerio meo Calvalegiæ juxta Cobbalegiam" to Exeter St Nicholas, with the consent of "Matillidis de Abrinco uxoris meæ", by charter dated 1162[142]. The parentage of the wife of Robert FitzEdith is confirmed by a claim, dated 1222, which is recorded by Bracton: "Matillis de Curteney" sued "Robertum de Curtenay" concerning "manerium de Ocumptona", "Robertus" claiming that the land was "hereditas Matillidis de Aueregnes" who had "duas filias…Hawisiam matrem suam primogenitam […filia Gaufridi de Crimes primi viri Matillidis de Auerenches] et…Matillidem", while the claimant Matilda asserted that she had the land in question "ex dono Roberti filii Regis patris eiusdem Matillidis et secundi viri predicte Matillidis de Auerenches"[143]. A different parentage is indicated by the Fundationis et Fundatorum Historia of Ford Abbey which records that “domina Alicia uxor domini Randolphi Avenell filia sua…unicam filiam…Matildam” married “Roberto filio regis Henrici primi notho” after the death of her first husband “Roberto de Abrincis id est de Averinges”[144]. Matilda, daughter of Ranulf Avenell, was the mother of Mathilde d’Avranches. The two charters quoted above indicate that this supposed second marriage of Matilda is not correct. The identity of Mathilde’s first husband is uncertain. Bracton’s report of the 1222 lawsuit which is quoted above identifies him as "Gaufridi de Crimes primi viri Matillidis de Auerenches". However, another claim recorded by Bracton, also dated 1222, identifies him differently: "Matillis de Curtenay" claimed against "Robertum de Curtenay" concerning "manerium de Chamelegha", the defendant stating that "Robertus filius Regis…Matillidem de Auerenches uxorem suam" held the land which was inherited by "Hawisie filie sui matri eiusdem Roberti de Curtenay que fuit filia Willelmi de Curcy viri eiusdem Matillidis"[145]. No other information has yet been found which would resolve this inconsistency. Another outstanding point concerns the date of death of Matilda Avenell, as wife of Robert FitzEdith, as reported in the Ford Abbey document. It is assumed that the date does in fact refer to Matilda Avenell and not to Mathilde d’Avranches, although the point is not beyond all doubt. If that is correct, no indication has been found of the date of death of Mathilde d’Avranches.
"m firstly [GEOFFROY de Crimes/GUILLAUME de Curcy], son of ---.
"m secondly (before 1162) [as his second wife,] ROBERT FitzRoy, illegitimate son of HENRY I King of England & his mistress Edith --- (-31 May [1172])."
Med Lands cites:
[141] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XLVI, List of charters in the cartulary of St Nicholas Priory, at Exeter, 151, p. 188.
[142] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XLVI, List of charters in the cartulary of St Nicholas Priory, at Exeter, 341, p. 382.
[143] Bracton’s Note Book, Vol. II, 170, p. 137.
[144] Dugdale Monasticon V, Ford Abbey, Devonshire I, p. 378.
[145] Bracton’s Note Book, Vol. III, 1569, p. 450.2
[142] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XLVI, List of charters in the cartulary of St Nicholas Priory, at Exeter, 341, p. 382.
[143] Bracton’s Note Book, Vol. II, 170, p. 137.
[144] Dugdale Monasticon V, Ford Abbey, Devonshire I, p. 378.
[145] Bracton’s Note Book, Vol. III, 1569, p. 450.2
Family | Maud d'Avranches Dame du Sap, Lady of Okehampton d. 21 Sep 1173 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 138-25, p. 133.. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#MathildeAvranchesMRobertFitzEdith. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Vicomtes d’Avranches, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avranches.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 138-25, p. 122. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
Maud d'Avranches Dame du Sap, Lady of Okehampton1,2,3
F, #12502, d. 21 September 1173
Father | Robert (?) d'Avranches, vicomte d'Avranches, Lord of Okehampton4,1,2,3 |
Mother | Havise (?) de Dol5,6,3 |
Reference | GAV24 EDV24 |
Last Edited | 21 Dec 2020 |
Maud d'Avranches Dame du Sap, Lady of Okehampton married William de Courcy
;
Her 1st husband.7,3,2 Maud d'Avranches Dame du Sap, Lady of Okehampton married Robert fitz Edith Baron of Okehampton, son of Henry I "Beauclerc" (?) King of England and Edith (Eda) Sigulfson de Greystoke, in 1142
;
Her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife.8,9,10,1,2,3
Maud d'Avranches Dame du Sap, Lady of Okehampton died on 21 September 1173.2,1
GAV-24 EDV-24.
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Avranches): “Maud d’Avranches + 21/09/1173 dame du Sap
ép. 1) William de Curcy
ép. 2) 1142 Robert FitzEdith ou FitzRoy + 31/05/1172 (fils bâtard d’Henry 1er et d’Edith of Greystoke)”.2
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE d’Avranches ). "Robti filii Henrici Regis" confirmed the donation of "totam vineam quam Robtus fil Baldewini et Ricardus frater eius" to Exeter St Nicholas, with the consent of "Matillidis filiæ Roberti de Avrenchis et heredis Ricardi filii Baldewini", undated[141]. The heirship of Mathilde to “Ricardi filii Baldewini” (who was a member of a younger branch of the Brionne/Eu family, see above) was through her maternal grandmother, who is recorded as a sister of the brothers Robert and Richard. "Robertus filius Regis Henrici" donated "duos ferlingos in manerio meo Calvalegiæ juxta Cobbalegiam" to Exeter St Nicholas, with the consent of "Matillidis de Abrinco uxoris meæ", by charter dated 1162[142]. The parentage of the wife of Robert FitzEdith is confirmed by a claim, dated 1222, which is recorded by Bracton: "Matillis de Curteney" sued "Robertum de Curtenay" concerning "manerium de Ocumptona", "Robertus" claiming that the land was "hereditas Matillidis de Aueregnes" who had "duas filias…Hawisiam matrem suam primogenitam […filia Gaufridi de Crimes primi viri Matillidis de Auerenches] et…Matillidem", while the claimant Matilda asserted that she had the land in question "ex dono Roberti filii Regis patris eiusdem Matillidis et secundi viri predicte Matillidis de Auerenches"[143]. A different parentage is indicated by the Fundationis et Fundatorum Historia of Ford Abbey which records that “domina Alicia uxor domini Randolphi Avenell filia sua…unicam filiam…Matildam” married “Roberto filio regis Henrici primi notho” after the death of her first husband “Roberto de Abrincis id est de Averinges”[144]. Matilda, daughter of Ranulf Avenell, was the mother of Mathilde d’Avranches. The two charters quoted above indicate that this supposed second marriage of Matilda is not correct. The identity of Mathilde’s first husband is uncertain. Bracton’s report of the 1222 lawsuit which is quoted above identifies him as "Gaufridi de Crimes primi viri Matillidis de Auerenches". However, another claim recorded by Bracton, also dated 1222, identifies him differently: "Matillis de Curtenay" claimed against "Robertum de Curtenay" concerning "manerium de Chamelegha", the defendant stating that "Robertus filius Regis…Matillidem de Auerenches uxorem suam" held the land which was inherited by "Hawisie filie sui matri eiusdem Roberti de Curtenay que fuit filia Willelmi de Curcy viri eiusdem Matillidis"[145]. No other information has yet been found which would resolve this inconsistency. Another outstanding point concerns the date of death of Matilda Avenell, as wife of Robert FitzEdith, as reported in the Ford Abbey document. It is assumed that the date does in fact refer to Matilda Avenell and not to Mathilde d’Avranches, although the point is not beyond all doubt. If that is correct, no indication has been found of the date of death of Mathilde d’Avranches.
"m firstly [GEOFFROY de Crimes/GUILLAUME de Curcy], son of ---.
"m secondly (before 1162) [as his second wife,] ROBERT FitzRoy, illegitimate son of HENRY I King of England & his mistress Edith --- (-31 May [1172])."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"ROBERT FitzEdith [FitzRoy] (-31 May [1172]). Symeon of Durham names "Rodberto filio Edæ et Henrici regis notho"[267]. Guillaume de Jumièges names "Rainaldus, Robertus, Gislebertus" as three illegitimate sons of King Henry I, adding that they were “adhuc iuvenes sine casamero”[268]. Landowner in Devon 1130: the 1129/30 Pipe Roll includes a record accounting for "terra Rob fil Reg" in Devon[269]. He supported his half-sister Empress Matilda during the civil war[270]. “Robertus Henrici regis filius” donated property to Oseney Abbey, Oxfordshire, with the consent of "Henrici de Oleio fratris mei”, by undated charter[271]. "Robertus filius Regis Henrici" donated "duos ferlingos in manerio meo Calvalegiæ juxta Cobbalegiam" to Exeter St Nicholas, with the consent of "Matillidis de Abrinco uxoris meæ", by charter dated 1162[272]. The Red Book of the Exchequer refers to "Robertus filius Regis lix l xvii s i d, et de novo i m" in Devonshire in [1167/68][273]. It is uncertain whether his year of death is accurate as the 1176/77 Pipe Roll names "Robertus filius Regis" in Devonshire[274].
"[m firstly ---. It should be noted that, assuming the hypothesis concerning the identity of the wife of Robert FitzEdith is correct as outlined below, Mathilde d´Avranches would have been considerably younger than her husband. As noted above, Robert is recorded as a land-owner in the 1129/30 Pipe Roll, while the same document records elsewhere that Mathilde´s father was still married to his first wife at that time. This age difference points to an earlier, otherwise unrecorded, first marriage of Robert which (if it did take place) was presumably childless.]
"m [secondly] (before 1162) as her second husband, MATHILDE d´Avranches, widow of [GEOFFROY de Crimes/GUILLAUME de Curcy], daughter of ROBERT d´Avranches & his second wife Matilda Avenell. "Robti filii Henrici Regis" confirmed the donation of "totam vineam quam Robtus fil Baldewini et Ricardus frater eius" to Exeter St Nicholas, with the consent of "Matillidis filiæ Roberti de Avrenchis et heredis Ricardi filii Baldewini", undated[275]. The heirship of Mathilde to “Ricardi filii Baldewini” (who was a member of a younger branch of the Brionne/Eu family, see the document NORMANDY NOBILITY) was through her maternal grandmother, who is recorded as a sister of the brothers Robert and Richard. "Robertus filius Regis Henrici" donated "duos ferlingos in manerio meo Calvalegiæ juxta Cobbalegiam" to Exeter St Nicholas, with the consent of "Matillidis de Abrinco uxoris meæ", by charter dated 1162[276]. The parentage of the wife of Robert FitzEdith is confirmed by a claim, dated 1222, which is recorded by Bracton: "Matillis de Curteney" sued "Robertum de Curtenay" concerning "manerium de Ocumptona", "Robertus" claiming that the land was "hereditas Matillidis de Aueregnes" who had "duas filias…Hawisiam matrem suam primogenitam […filia Gaufridi de Crimes primi viri Matillidis de Auerenches] et…Matillidem", while the claimant Matilda asserted that she had the land in question "ex dono Roberti filii Regis patris eiusdem Matillidis et secundi viri predicte Matillidis de Auerenches"[277]. A different parentage is indicated by the Fundationis et Fundatorum Historia of Ford Abbey which records that “domina Alicia uxor domini Randolphi Avenell filia sua…unicam filiam…Matildam” married “Roberto filio regis Henrici primi notho” after the death of her first husband “Roberto de Abrincis id est de Averinges”, and died “IX Kal Oct 1173”[278]. Matilda, daughter of Ranulf Avenell, was the mother of Mathilde d´Avranches. The two charters quoted above indicate that this supposed second marriage of Matilda is not correct. The identity of Mathilde´s first husband is uncertain. Bracton´s report of the 1222 lawsuit which is quoted above identifies him as "Gaufridi de Crimes primi viri Matillidis de Auerenches". However, another claim recorded by Bracton, also dated 1222, identifies him differently: "Matillis de Curtenay" claimed against "Robertum de Curtenay" concerning "manerium de Chamelegha", the defendant stating that "Robertus filius Regis…Matillidem de Auerenches uxorem suam" held the land which was inherited by "Hawisie filie sui matri eiusdem Roberti de Curtenay que fuit filia Willelmi de Curcy viri eiusdem Matillidis"[279]. No other information has yet been found which would resolve this inconsistency. Another outstanding point concerns the date of death of Matilda Avenell, as wife of Robert FitzEdith, as reported in the Ford Abbey document. It is assumed that the date does in fact refer to Matilda Avenell and not to Mathilde d´Avranches, although the point is not beyond all doubt. If that is correct, no indication has been found of the date of death of Mathilde d´Avranches."
Med Lands cites:
;
Her 1st husband.7,3,2 Maud d'Avranches Dame du Sap, Lady of Okehampton married Robert fitz Edith Baron of Okehampton, son of Henry I "Beauclerc" (?) King of England and Edith (Eda) Sigulfson de Greystoke, in 1142
;
Her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife.8,9,10,1,2,3
Maud d'Avranches Dame du Sap, Lady of Okehampton died on 21 September 1173.2,1
GAV-24 EDV-24.
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: 12.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: III 354.1
She was Lady of du Sap at Normandy, France.11 2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: III 354.1
; Per Racines et Histoire (Avranches): “Maud d’Avranches + 21/09/1173 dame du Sap
ép. 1) William de Curcy
ép. 2) 1142 Robert FitzEdith ou FitzRoy + 31/05/1172 (fils bâtard d’Henry 1er et d’Edith of Greystoke)”.2
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE d’Avranches ). "Robti filii Henrici Regis" confirmed the donation of "totam vineam quam Robtus fil Baldewini et Ricardus frater eius" to Exeter St Nicholas, with the consent of "Matillidis filiæ Roberti de Avrenchis et heredis Ricardi filii Baldewini", undated[141]. The heirship of Mathilde to “Ricardi filii Baldewini” (who was a member of a younger branch of the Brionne/Eu family, see above) was through her maternal grandmother, who is recorded as a sister of the brothers Robert and Richard. "Robertus filius Regis Henrici" donated "duos ferlingos in manerio meo Calvalegiæ juxta Cobbalegiam" to Exeter St Nicholas, with the consent of "Matillidis de Abrinco uxoris meæ", by charter dated 1162[142]. The parentage of the wife of Robert FitzEdith is confirmed by a claim, dated 1222, which is recorded by Bracton: "Matillis de Curteney" sued "Robertum de Curtenay" concerning "manerium de Ocumptona", "Robertus" claiming that the land was "hereditas Matillidis de Aueregnes" who had "duas filias…Hawisiam matrem suam primogenitam […filia Gaufridi de Crimes primi viri Matillidis de Auerenches] et…Matillidem", while the claimant Matilda asserted that she had the land in question "ex dono Roberti filii Regis patris eiusdem Matillidis et secundi viri predicte Matillidis de Auerenches"[143]. A different parentage is indicated by the Fundationis et Fundatorum Historia of Ford Abbey which records that “domina Alicia uxor domini Randolphi Avenell filia sua…unicam filiam…Matildam” married “Roberto filio regis Henrici primi notho” after the death of her first husband “Roberto de Abrincis id est de Averinges”[144]. Matilda, daughter of Ranulf Avenell, was the mother of Mathilde d’Avranches. The two charters quoted above indicate that this supposed second marriage of Matilda is not correct. The identity of Mathilde’s first husband is uncertain. Bracton’s report of the 1222 lawsuit which is quoted above identifies him as "Gaufridi de Crimes primi viri Matillidis de Auerenches". However, another claim recorded by Bracton, also dated 1222, identifies him differently: "Matillis de Curtenay" claimed against "Robertum de Curtenay" concerning "manerium de Chamelegha", the defendant stating that "Robertus filius Regis…Matillidem de Auerenches uxorem suam" held the land which was inherited by "Hawisie filie sui matri eiusdem Roberti de Curtenay que fuit filia Willelmi de Curcy viri eiusdem Matillidis"[145]. No other information has yet been found which would resolve this inconsistency. Another outstanding point concerns the date of death of Matilda Avenell, as wife of Robert FitzEdith, as reported in the Ford Abbey document. It is assumed that the date does in fact refer to Matilda Avenell and not to Mathilde d’Avranches, although the point is not beyond all doubt. If that is correct, no indication has been found of the date of death of Mathilde d’Avranches.
"m firstly [GEOFFROY de Crimes/GUILLAUME de Curcy], son of ---.
"m secondly (before 1162) [as his second wife,] ROBERT FitzRoy, illegitimate son of HENRY I King of England & his mistress Edith --- (-31 May [1172])."
Med Lands cites:
[141] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XLVI, List of charters in the cartulary of St Nicholas Priory, at Exeter, 151, p. 188.
[142] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XLVI, List of charters in the cartulary of St Nicholas Priory, at Exeter, 341, p. 382.
[143] Bracton’s Note Book, Vol. II, 170, p. 137.
[144] Dugdale Monasticon V, Ford Abbey, Devonshire I, p. 378.
[145] Bracton’s Note Book, Vol. III, 1569, p. 450.3
[142] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XLVI, List of charters in the cartulary of St Nicholas Priory, at Exeter, 341, p. 382.
[143] Bracton’s Note Book, Vol. II, 170, p. 137.
[144] Dugdale Monasticon V, Ford Abbey, Devonshire I, p. 378.
[145] Bracton’s Note Book, Vol. III, 1569, p. 450.3
; Per Med Lands:
"ROBERT FitzEdith [FitzRoy] (-31 May [1172]). Symeon of Durham names "Rodberto filio Edæ et Henrici regis notho"[267]. Guillaume de Jumièges names "Rainaldus, Robertus, Gislebertus" as three illegitimate sons of King Henry I, adding that they were “adhuc iuvenes sine casamero”[268]. Landowner in Devon 1130: the 1129/30 Pipe Roll includes a record accounting for "terra Rob fil Reg" in Devon[269]. He supported his half-sister Empress Matilda during the civil war[270]. “Robertus Henrici regis filius” donated property to Oseney Abbey, Oxfordshire, with the consent of "Henrici de Oleio fratris mei”, by undated charter[271]. "Robertus filius Regis Henrici" donated "duos ferlingos in manerio meo Calvalegiæ juxta Cobbalegiam" to Exeter St Nicholas, with the consent of "Matillidis de Abrinco uxoris meæ", by charter dated 1162[272]. The Red Book of the Exchequer refers to "Robertus filius Regis lix l xvii s i d, et de novo i m" in Devonshire in [1167/68][273]. It is uncertain whether his year of death is accurate as the 1176/77 Pipe Roll names "Robertus filius Regis" in Devonshire[274].
"[m firstly ---. It should be noted that, assuming the hypothesis concerning the identity of the wife of Robert FitzEdith is correct as outlined below, Mathilde d´Avranches would have been considerably younger than her husband. As noted above, Robert is recorded as a land-owner in the 1129/30 Pipe Roll, while the same document records elsewhere that Mathilde´s father was still married to his first wife at that time. This age difference points to an earlier, otherwise unrecorded, first marriage of Robert which (if it did take place) was presumably childless.]
"m [secondly] (before 1162) as her second husband, MATHILDE d´Avranches, widow of [GEOFFROY de Crimes/GUILLAUME de Curcy], daughter of ROBERT d´Avranches & his second wife Matilda Avenell. "Robti filii Henrici Regis" confirmed the donation of "totam vineam quam Robtus fil Baldewini et Ricardus frater eius" to Exeter St Nicholas, with the consent of "Matillidis filiæ Roberti de Avrenchis et heredis Ricardi filii Baldewini", undated[275]. The heirship of Mathilde to “Ricardi filii Baldewini” (who was a member of a younger branch of the Brionne/Eu family, see the document NORMANDY NOBILITY) was through her maternal grandmother, who is recorded as a sister of the brothers Robert and Richard. "Robertus filius Regis Henrici" donated "duos ferlingos in manerio meo Calvalegiæ juxta Cobbalegiam" to Exeter St Nicholas, with the consent of "Matillidis de Abrinco uxoris meæ", by charter dated 1162[276]. The parentage of the wife of Robert FitzEdith is confirmed by a claim, dated 1222, which is recorded by Bracton: "Matillis de Curteney" sued "Robertum de Curtenay" concerning "manerium de Ocumptona", "Robertus" claiming that the land was "hereditas Matillidis de Aueregnes" who had "duas filias…Hawisiam matrem suam primogenitam […filia Gaufridi de Crimes primi viri Matillidis de Auerenches] et…Matillidem", while the claimant Matilda asserted that she had the land in question "ex dono Roberti filii Regis patris eiusdem Matillidis et secundi viri predicte Matillidis de Auerenches"[277]. A different parentage is indicated by the Fundationis et Fundatorum Historia of Ford Abbey which records that “domina Alicia uxor domini Randolphi Avenell filia sua…unicam filiam…Matildam” married “Roberto filio regis Henrici primi notho” after the death of her first husband “Roberto de Abrincis id est de Averinges”, and died “IX Kal Oct 1173”[278]. Matilda, daughter of Ranulf Avenell, was the mother of Mathilde d´Avranches. The two charters quoted above indicate that this supposed second marriage of Matilda is not correct. The identity of Mathilde´s first husband is uncertain. Bracton´s report of the 1222 lawsuit which is quoted above identifies him as "Gaufridi de Crimes primi viri Matillidis de Auerenches". However, another claim recorded by Bracton, also dated 1222, identifies him differently: "Matillis de Curtenay" claimed against "Robertum de Curtenay" concerning "manerium de Chamelegha", the defendant stating that "Robertus filius Regis…Matillidem de Auerenches uxorem suam" held the land which was inherited by "Hawisie filie sui matri eiusdem Roberti de Curtenay que fuit filia Willelmi de Curcy viri eiusdem Matillidis"[279]. No other information has yet been found which would resolve this inconsistency. Another outstanding point concerns the date of death of Matilda Avenell, as wife of Robert FitzEdith, as reported in the Ford Abbey document. It is assumed that the date does in fact refer to Matilda Avenell and not to Mathilde d´Avranches, although the point is not beyond all doubt. If that is correct, no indication has been found of the date of death of Mathilde d´Avranches."
Med Lands cites:
[267] Simeon of Durham, Vol. II, p. 310, quoted in CP XI Appendix D, p. 108 footnote f.
[268] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XXIX, p. 306.
[269] Pipe Roll 31 Hen I (1129/30), Devon, p. 152.
[270] CP XI Appendix D, 109.
[271] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Oseney Abbey, Oxfordshire, VI, p. 253.
[272] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XLVI, List of charters in the cartulary of St Nicholas Priory, at Exeter, 341, p. 382.
[273] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Knights fees, p. 42.
[274] Pipe Roll 23 Hen II (1176/77), Devonshire, p. 3.
[275] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XLVI, List of charters in the cartulary of St Nicholas Priory, at Exeter, 151, p. 188.
[276] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XLVI, List of charters in the cartulary of St Nicholas Priory, at Exeter, 341, p. 382.
[277] Bracton’s Note Book, Vol. II, 170, p. 137.
[278] Dugdale Monasticon V, Ford Abbey, Devonshire I, p. 378.
[279] Bracton’s Note Book, Vol. III, 1569, p. 450.2
[268] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XXIX, p. 306.
[269] Pipe Roll 31 Hen I (1129/30), Devon, p. 152.
[270] CP XI Appendix D, 109.
[271] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Oseney Abbey, Oxfordshire, VI, p. 253.
[272] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XLVI, List of charters in the cartulary of St Nicholas Priory, at Exeter, 341, p. 382.
[273] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Knights fees, p. 42.
[274] Pipe Roll 23 Hen II (1176/77), Devonshire, p. 3.
[275] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XLVI, List of charters in the cartulary of St Nicholas Priory, at Exeter, 151, p. 188.
[276] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XLVI, List of charters in the cartulary of St Nicholas Priory, at Exeter, 341, p. 382.
[277] Bracton’s Note Book, Vol. II, 170, p. 137.
[278] Dugdale Monasticon V, Ford Abbey, Devonshire I, p. 378.
[279] Bracton’s Note Book, Vol. III, 1569, p. 450.2
Family 1 | William de Courcy |
Child |
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Family 2 | Robert fitz Edith Baron of Okehampton d. 31 May 1172 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud d'Avranches: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076157&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Vicomtes d’Avranches, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avranches.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#MathildeAvranchesMRobertFitzEdith. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert d'Avranchesr: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00320939&tree=LEO
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Courtenay- Barons Courtenay, Earls of Devon, p. 140. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avranches.pdf, p. 3.
- [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 138-25, p. 133.. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 183-185, NORMANDY 8:xvii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert FitzEdith: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076156&tree=LEO
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 138-25, p. 122. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York, NY: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), p. 511 (Chart 37). Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
Robert (?) d'Avranches, vicomte d'Avranches, Lord of Okehampton1,2
M, #12503
Father | William fitz Edmund (?) d'Avranches3,1 |
Mother | Emma (?) of Dolton3 |
Reference | GAV25 EDV25 |
Last Edited | 21 Dec 2020 |
Robert (?) d'Avranches, vicomte d'Avranches, Lord of Okehampton married Havise (?) de Dol, daughter of Gelduin II (?) de Dol and Noga (?) de Tinténiac.3
GAV-25 EDV-25.
; van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: III 354.4
Robert (?) d'Avranches, vicomte d'Avranches, Lord of Okehampton lived at Okehampton, Devonshire, England.5 Robert (?) d'Avranches, vicomte d'Avranches, Lord of Okehampton was also known as Robert de Abrincis Lord of Okehampton.3 He was Lord of Oakhampton; on the resignation of his uncle, Richard de Redvers, obtained a grant of the Barony of Okehampton, the office of hereditary sheriff of Decon, and the government of Exeter Castle. at Okehampton, Devonshire, England.5,3
GAV-25 EDV-25.
; van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: III 354.4
Robert (?) d'Avranches, vicomte d'Avranches, Lord of Okehampton lived at Okehampton, Devonshire, England.5 Robert (?) d'Avranches, vicomte d'Avranches, Lord of Okehampton was also known as Robert de Abrincis Lord of Okehampton.3 He was Lord of Oakhampton; on the resignation of his uncle, Richard de Redvers, obtained a grant of the Barony of Okehampton, the office of hereditary sheriff of Decon, and the government of Exeter Castle. at Okehampton, Devonshire, England.5,3
Family | Havise (?) de Dol |
Child |
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Citations
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avranches.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert d'Avranchesr: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00320939&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Courtenay- Barons Courtenay, Earls of Devon, p. 140. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert d'Avranches: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00320939&tree=LEO
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 138-25, p. 122. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud d'Avranches: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076157&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Vicomtes d’Avranches, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avranches.pdf
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#MathildeAvranchesMRobertFitzEdith. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Agnes de Sully1,2,3,4
F, #12504, d. after 1098
Father | Gilles II de Sully Seigneur de Sully1,2,3,5,4,6 b. c 1050, d. 1098 |
Mother | Eldeburge de Bourges3,4,7 d. a 30 Apr 1096 |
Reference | GAV26 EDV26 |
Last Edited | 23 Sep 2020 |
Agnes de Sully died after 1098.8 She married Guillaume de Blois comte de Chartres, Sire de Sully, son of Etienne (Stephen) Henri de Blois comte de Blois, Chartres, Châteaudun, Meaux, Provins et Sancerre and Adela/Adèle (?) de Normandie, Countess of Blois and Chartres, circa 1101.8,1,2,9,4,10
; Per Racines et Histoire (Blois & Chartres): "Guillaume de Blois ° 1087/93 + ~1150 comte de Chartres (irresponsable et violent ; destitué pour faiblesse d’esprit et privé de son droit d’aînesse, deshérité à part Sully) puis seigneur de Sully
ép. ~1101 Agnès de Sully (fille de Gilles de Sully, et d’Eldeberge)"
Per Racines et Histoire (Sully): "Agnès de Sully héritière de Sully (confirme avec son mari les droits de Saint-Florentsur Saint-Gondon-sur-Loire par charte 1198/1101)
ép. Guillaume de Blois-Champagne, comte de Chartres, seigneur de Sully (par sa femme) + 1150 (fils aîné d’Henri-Etienne II, comte de Blois, et d’Adela de Normandie ; deshérité par ses parents pour cause d’idiotie, attardé mental, violent et irresponsable.)11,12"
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Guillaume, Cte de Chartres, +ca 1150; he was disinherited and became merely Sire de Sully; m.Agnes, dau.of Gilles de Sully."13
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: II 46.14 GAV-26 EDV-26.
; Per Racines et Histoire (Blois & Chartres): "Guillaume de Blois ° 1087/93 + ~1150 comte de Chartres (irresponsable et violent ; destitué pour faiblesse d’esprit et privé de son droit d’aînesse, deshérité à part Sully) puis seigneur de Sully
ép. ~1101 Agnès de Sully (fille de Gilles de Sully, et d’Eldeberge)"
Per Racines et Histoire (Sully): "Agnès de Sully héritière de Sully (confirme avec son mari les droits de Saint-Florentsur Saint-Gondon-sur-Loire par charte 1198/1101)
ép. Guillaume de Blois-Champagne, comte de Chartres, seigneur de Sully (par sa femme) + 1150 (fils aîné d’Henri-Etienne II, comte de Blois, et d’Adela de Normandie ; deshérité par ses parents pour cause d’idiotie, attardé mental, violent et irresponsable.)11,12"
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Guillaume, Cte de Chartres, +ca 1150; he was disinherited and became merely Sire de Sully; m.Agnes, dau.of Gilles de Sully."13
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: II 46.14 GAV-26 EDV-26.
Family | Guillaume de Blois comte de Chartres, Sire de Sully b. bt 1080 - 1090, d. b 1150 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Blois 1 page ("THE HOUSE OF CHAMPAGNE-BLOIS"): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/blois/blois1.html#B2T1
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Blois 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/blois/blois2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Sully: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046836&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Blois-Champagne.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gilles de Sully: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046837&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gilles de Sully: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046837&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eldeburge: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046838&tree=LEO
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 139-23, p. 122. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume de Blois: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046835&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/cfragobs.htm#GuillaumeChartresSullydied1150B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Blois & Chartres (Blois-Champagne), p. 7: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Blois-Champagne.pdf
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Sully, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Sully.pdf
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Poitou 1 page ("The House of Poitou"): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/poitou/poitou1.html#G5
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Sully: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046836&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Sully: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199041&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/cfragobs.htm#MargueriteSullydied1145
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf, p. 3.
Gilles II de Sully Seigneur de Sully1,2
M, #12505, b. circa 1050, d. 1098
Father | Archembaud II (?) Sire de Sully b. c 1020, d. a 1064 |
Mother | Agnes (?) b. c 1020 |
Reference | GAV27 EDV27 |
Last Edited | 24 Apr 2020 |
Gilles II de Sully Seigneur de Sully married Eldeburge de Bourges.1,3,4
Gilles II de Sully Seigneur de Sully was born circa 1050.
Gilles II de Sully Seigneur de Sully died in 1098.1
; Per Med Lands:
"GILLES [II] de Sully (-1098). Seigneur de Sully. Père Anselme records that Humbaud and Gilles restored the church of Chapelle-dam-Gilon to the abbey of Saint Sulpice de Bourges, with the consent of their mother Agnes and sisters Hodierne and Hiranie, by charter dated 1064, but gives no citation[748]. "Gilo Soliacensis dominus" renounced rights exercised by "frater meus Humbaldus" to the abbey of Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire by charter dated 1070[749]. Philippe I King of France confirmed donations made to Saint-Ambroix by “Gausfredus Bituricum vicecomes et uxor illius Ildeburgis et Odo de Dolis et liberi illorum” by charter dated 16 Oct 1102, and also records donations made by “Gilo miles ac dominus Soliacensis castri atque Hainensis...cum Odone Arpino dominus”[750].
"m EDELBURGE de Bourges, daughter of GEOFFROI [IV] Vicomte de Bourges & his wife --- (-after 30 Apr [1096]). "Stephanus Vicecomes Bituricensis urbis et soror mea Ildeburgis" donated property to the abbey of Vierzon Saint Pierre, with the consent of "viri sui D. Geilone Soliacensis castri" and on the advice of "Arnulfi Virzionensis domini filiique eius Gaufridi...", by charter dated 28 Jun 1092, which names "…D. Odonem cognomento Arpinum, neptis nostræ [Mathildæ]"[751]. "Gillo de Soliaco" recognised the rights of Saint-Florent over the monastery of Saint-Gondon sur Loire by charter dated 30 Apr [1096] which names "uxorem suam Audeburgim filiam Goffredi vicecomitis Bituricensis"[752]."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: II 46.1
Reference: Weis [1992:122] Line 139-23.5 Gilles II de Sully Seigneur de Sully was also known as Gilon Sire of Sully-sur-Loirie. He was Seigneur of Sully-sur-Loire at Sully-Sur-Loire, France.5
Gilles II de Sully Seigneur de Sully was born circa 1050.
Gilles II de Sully Seigneur de Sully died in 1098.1
; Per Med Lands:
"GILLES [II] de Sully (-1098). Seigneur de Sully. Père Anselme records that Humbaud and Gilles restored the church of Chapelle-dam-Gilon to the abbey of Saint Sulpice de Bourges, with the consent of their mother Agnes and sisters Hodierne and Hiranie, by charter dated 1064, but gives no citation[748]. "Gilo Soliacensis dominus" renounced rights exercised by "frater meus Humbaldus" to the abbey of Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire by charter dated 1070[749]. Philippe I King of France confirmed donations made to Saint-Ambroix by “Gausfredus Bituricum vicecomes et uxor illius Ildeburgis et Odo de Dolis et liberi illorum” by charter dated 16 Oct 1102, and also records donations made by “Gilo miles ac dominus Soliacensis castri atque Hainensis...cum Odone Arpino dominus”[750].
"m EDELBURGE de Bourges, daughter of GEOFFROI [IV] Vicomte de Bourges & his wife --- (-after 30 Apr [1096]). "Stephanus Vicecomes Bituricensis urbis et soror mea Ildeburgis" donated property to the abbey of Vierzon Saint Pierre, with the consent of "viri sui D. Geilone Soliacensis castri" and on the advice of "Arnulfi Virzionensis domini filiique eius Gaufridi...", by charter dated 28 Jun 1092, which names "…D. Odonem cognomento Arpinum, neptis nostræ [Mathildæ]"[751]. "Gillo de Soliaco" recognised the rights of Saint-Florent over the monastery of Saint-Gondon sur Loire by charter dated 30 Apr [1096] which names "uxorem suam Audeburgim filiam Goffredi vicecomitis Bituricensis"[752]."
Med Lands cites:
[748] Père Anselme, Tome II, p. 878.
[749] Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire, Tome I, LXXIX, p. 206.
[750] Prou (1908), CXLV, p. 358.
[751] RHGF, Tome XII, p. 458.
[752] Saint-Gondon sur Loire VIII, p. 25.2
GAV-27 EDV-27. [749] Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire, Tome I, LXXIX, p. 206.
[750] Prou (1908), CXLV, p. 358.
[751] RHGF, Tome XII, p. 458.
[752] Saint-Gondon sur Loire VIII, p. 25.2
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: II 46.1
Reference: Weis [1992:122] Line 139-23.5 Gilles II de Sully Seigneur de Sully was also known as Gilon Sire of Sully-sur-Loirie. He was Seigneur of Sully-sur-Loire at Sully-Sur-Loire, France.5
Family | Eldeburge de Bourges d. a 30 Apr 1096 |
Child |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gilles de Sully: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046837&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/cfragobs.htm#AgnesHeiressSullyMGuillaumeChampagne1104. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/cfragobs.htm#EdelburgeBourgesdied1096
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eldeburge: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046838&tree=LEO
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 139-23, p. 122. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Blois 1 page ("THE HOUSE OF CHAMPAGNE-BLOIS"): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/blois/blois1.html#B2T1
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Blois 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/blois/blois2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Sully: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046836&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gilles de Sully: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046837&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Blois-Champagne.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
Marguerite de Sully1,2,3
F, #12506, d. circa 15 December 1145
Father | Guillaume de Blois comte de Chartres, Sire de Sully1,4,5,2,3 b. bt 1080 - 1090, d. b 1150 |
Mother | Agnes de Sully1,6,2,3 d. a 1098 |
Reference | GAV25 EDV25 |
Last Edited | 26 Sep 2020 |
Marguerite de Sully married Henri I d'Eu Comte d'Eu, Lord Hastings, son of Guillaume II (?) Cte d'Eu, Lord of Hastings and Béatrice de Builly Heiress of Tickhill, Yorkshire,
;
His 3rd wife.7,1,8,9,10,2,3
Marguerite de Sully died circa 15 December 1145; Genealogics and Weis say d. 18 Dec 1145; Med Lands says d. 14 Dec 1145.1,2,7,3
Marguerite de Sully was buried after 15 December 1145 at Foucarmont Abbey, Foucarmont, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1105, France
DEATH 15 Dec 1145 (aged 39–40), Caen, Departement du Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France
Marguerite was the daughter of William de Blois or William the Simple (Count of Chartes) and Agnes de Sully. Her paternal grandparents were Stephen II of Blois and Adela of Normandy, the daughter of William the Conqueror and Matilda of Flanders. She married Henri d'Eu, Count of Eu, Lord of Hastings.
Marguerite and Henri's children were:
** John d'Eu (Count of Eu)
** Stephen Hastings (Master of Templars)
** Beatrice Hastings
** Maud Hastings
** Ida d'Eu
** Helisende d'Eu
Family Members
Parents
William de Blois 1082–1150
Agnes de Sully de Blois 1085–1140
Spouse
Henri d'Eu 1085–1139
Children
John d'Eu 1130–1170
BURIAL Foucarmont Abbey, Foucarmont, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France
Created by: Mad
Added: 3 Mar 2012
Find a Grave Memorial 86189848.11
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:693.2 GAV-25 EDV-25 GKJ-26. Marguerite de Sully was also known as Margaret de Champagne.12
; Per Weis: "Margaret of Champagne, d. 15 Dec. 1145; m. (3) Henry, Count d'Eu, Lord of Hastings, d. 12 July 1140, s. of William, Count d'Eu, Lord of Hastings, and Beatrice de Builly, sis. & event. h. in her issue of Roger de Builly, lord of Tickhill, co. York. (CP v:155-156; ES III.1/110; for the Norman pedigrees, see MOriarty, The Plantagenet Ancetry)."7
; Per Racines et Histoire (Sully): “Marguerite (alias Marie) de Sully + 14/12/1145
ép. Henri 1er, comte d’Eu + 12/07/1140 (Fécamp) (fils de Guillaume 1er, comte d’Eu) (cités dans des donations à Saint-Michel du Tréport par charte, en 1101)”.13
; Per Med Lands:
"MARGUERITE de Sully (-14 Dec 1145). "Henricus comes Augensis filius comitis Willermi" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport with the consent of "Margarita comitissa et fratres supradicti comitis Robertus, Willelmus major, Willelmus minor" by a charter dated 1101[796]. The necrology of the church of Eu records the death "15 Dec" of "Margareta Augensis comitissa, mater Johannis comitis"[797].
"m as his third wife, HENRI I Comte d'Eu, son of GUILLAUME I Comte d'Eu & his [first/second] wife --- (-Fécamp 12 Jul 1140)."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (d'Eu): “Henri 1er d’Eu + 12/07/1140 (Fécamp) comte d’Eu (1096), Lord of Hastings, partisan de Guillaume Cliton (1118) contre Henry 1er, arrêté à Rouen (avec Hugues de Gournay) et contraint de livrer ses châteaux, fonde SaintMartin du Bosc (1107) et l’Abbaye de Fécamp (1129/30) où il finit moine
ép. 1) Mahaut (Mathilde) + un 30/03 dès 1107 (citée dans une charte en sa mémoire 1107)
ép. 2) Ermentrude + un 17 ou 24/04
ép. 3) avant 1130 Marguerite de Sully (alias Marie, alias de Champagne) + 15/12/1145 (fille de Guillaume de Blois-Champagne, seigneur de Sully, et d’Agnès, dame de Sully)”.14
; Per Med Lands:
"HENRI d'Eu, son of GUILLAUME I Comte d'Eu & his [first/second] wife --- (-Fécamp 12 Jul 1140). "Henricus comes Augensis filius comitis Willermi" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport with the consent of "Margarita comitissa et fratres supradicti comitis Robertus, Willelmus major, Willelmus minor" by a charter dated 1101[1050]. He succeeded his father in 1096 as Comte d'Eu. In 1118, he supported a rebellion against Henry I King of England in favour of Guillaume "Clito" de Normandie, but was arrested at Rouen with Hugues de Gournay, "thrown into fetters and forced to surrender his castles"[1051]. He founded Saint-Martin-du-Bosc in [1107] and the abbey of Fécamp in 1129/30[1052]. He became a monk at the abbey of Fécamp. Robert of Torigny records the death in 1140 of "Henricus comes de Ou"[1053]. The necrology of the church of Eu records the anniversary "12 Jul" of "Henrici comitis Augi" who introduced "canonicos regulares" to the church[1054].
"m firstly MATHILDE, daughter of --- (-30 Mar [1107 or before]). "Henricus comes Augensis" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport "pro salute anime Matildis uxoris mee" with the consent of "frater meus Robertus" by a charter dated 1107[1055]. The necrology of Ulterioris Portus monastery records the death "30 Mar" of "Maltildis Augensis comitissa, Henrici comitis...sponsa"[1056].
"m secondly ERMENTRUDE, daughter of --- (-17 or 24 Apr ----). The necrology of Ulterioris Portus monastery records the death "17 Apr" of "Hermentrudis Augi comitissa"[1057]. The necrology of Longpont records the death “VIII Kal Mai” of “Hermetrudis comitissa Augi”[1058]. The necrology of Longpont contains numerous references to the Montlhéry family, Comtes de Rochefort (see PARIS REGION). The inclusion of Ermentrude suggests that she may be related to that family.
"m thirdly MARGUERITE de Sully, daughter of GUILLAUME de Blois Seigneur de Sully & his wife Agnes de Sully (-15 Dec [1145], bur Fécamp). "Henricus comes Augensis filius comitis Willermi" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport with the consent of "Margarita comitissa et fratres supradicti comitis Robertus, Willelmus major, Willelmus minor" by a charter dated 1101[1059]. The necrology of the church of Eu records the death "15 Dec" of "Margareta Augensis comitissa, mater Johannis comitis"[1060]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Boyer:
"HENRY, Count d'Eu and Lord of Hastings, died 12 July 1140, and was buried in the Abbey of Foucannont.
"He married first Maud, or Mahaut, who died 30 March, in or before 1109.
"He married second Hennentmde, who died 17 or 24 April year unknown.
"He married third, as her third husband, MAR GARET DE CHAMPAGNE, who died 15 Dec. 1145, and was buried with her husband.
"He supported King Henry I against Duke Robert when the king visited Normandy in 1104, but was arrested in Rouen in 1118 as he was preparing to join the revolt in favor of the Duke's son, William. He was imprisoned until he surrendered bi's castles, but was then on Henry's side at the battle of Bremule on 20 Aug. 1119. He founded the Abbey of Foucannont, traditionally on 25 July 1130. He became a monk there, and died in 1140.
"Child, by third wife, son and heir:
;
His 3rd wife.7,1,8,9,10,2,3
Marguerite de Sully died circa 15 December 1145; Genealogics and Weis say d. 18 Dec 1145; Med Lands says d. 14 Dec 1145.1,2,7,3
Marguerite de Sully was buried after 15 December 1145 at Foucarmont Abbey, Foucarmont, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1105, France
DEATH 15 Dec 1145 (aged 39–40), Caen, Departement du Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France
Marguerite was the daughter of William de Blois or William the Simple (Count of Chartes) and Agnes de Sully. Her paternal grandparents were Stephen II of Blois and Adela of Normandy, the daughter of William the Conqueror and Matilda of Flanders. She married Henri d'Eu, Count of Eu, Lord of Hastings.
Marguerite and Henri's children were:
** John d'Eu (Count of Eu)
** Stephen Hastings (Master of Templars)
** Beatrice Hastings
** Maud Hastings
** Ida d'Eu
** Helisende d'Eu
Family Members
Parents
William de Blois 1082–1150
Agnes de Sully de Blois 1085–1140
Spouse
Henri d'Eu 1085–1139
Children
John d'Eu 1130–1170
BURIAL Foucarmont Abbey, Foucarmont, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France
Created by: Mad
Added: 3 Mar 2012
Find a Grave Memorial 86189848.11
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:693.2 GAV-25 EDV-25 GKJ-26. Marguerite de Sully was also known as Margaret de Champagne.12
; Per Weis: "Margaret of Champagne, d. 15 Dec. 1145; m. (3) Henry, Count d'Eu, Lord of Hastings, d. 12 July 1140, s. of William, Count d'Eu, Lord of Hastings, and Beatrice de Builly, sis. & event. h. in her issue of Roger de Builly, lord of Tickhill, co. York. (CP v:155-156; ES III.1/110; for the Norman pedigrees, see MOriarty, The Plantagenet Ancetry)."7
; Per Racines et Histoire (Sully): “Marguerite (alias Marie) de Sully + 14/12/1145
ép. Henri 1er, comte d’Eu + 12/07/1140 (Fécamp) (fils de Guillaume 1er, comte d’Eu) (cités dans des donations à Saint-Michel du Tréport par charte, en 1101)”.13
; Per Med Lands:
"MARGUERITE de Sully (-14 Dec 1145). "Henricus comes Augensis filius comitis Willermi" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport with the consent of "Margarita comitissa et fratres supradicti comitis Robertus, Willelmus major, Willelmus minor" by a charter dated 1101[796]. The necrology of the church of Eu records the death "15 Dec" of "Margareta Augensis comitissa, mater Johannis comitis"[797].
"m as his third wife, HENRI I Comte d'Eu, son of GUILLAUME I Comte d'Eu & his [first/second] wife --- (-Fécamp 12 Jul 1140)."
Med Lands cites:
[796] Tréport Saint-Michel 4, p. 20.
[797] RHGF, Tome XXIII, Ex Obituario ecclesiæ Augensis, p. 451.10
[797] RHGF, Tome XXIII, Ex Obituario ecclesiæ Augensis, p. 451.10
; Per Racines et Histoire (d'Eu): “Henri 1er d’Eu + 12/07/1140 (Fécamp) comte d’Eu (1096), Lord of Hastings, partisan de Guillaume Cliton (1118) contre Henry 1er, arrêté à Rouen (avec Hugues de Gournay) et contraint de livrer ses châteaux, fonde SaintMartin du Bosc (1107) et l’Abbaye de Fécamp (1129/30) où il finit moine
ép. 1) Mahaut (Mathilde) + un 30/03 dès 1107 (citée dans une charte en sa mémoire 1107)
ép. 2) Ermentrude + un 17 ou 24/04
ép. 3) avant 1130 Marguerite de Sully (alias Marie, alias de Champagne) + 15/12/1145 (fille de Guillaume de Blois-Champagne, seigneur de Sully, et d’Agnès, dame de Sully)”.14
; Per Med Lands:
"HENRI d'Eu, son of GUILLAUME I Comte d'Eu & his [first/second] wife --- (-Fécamp 12 Jul 1140). "Henricus comes Augensis filius comitis Willermi" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport with the consent of "Margarita comitissa et fratres supradicti comitis Robertus, Willelmus major, Willelmus minor" by a charter dated 1101[1050]. He succeeded his father in 1096 as Comte d'Eu. In 1118, he supported a rebellion against Henry I King of England in favour of Guillaume "Clito" de Normandie, but was arrested at Rouen with Hugues de Gournay, "thrown into fetters and forced to surrender his castles"[1051]. He founded Saint-Martin-du-Bosc in [1107] and the abbey of Fécamp in 1129/30[1052]. He became a monk at the abbey of Fécamp. Robert of Torigny records the death in 1140 of "Henricus comes de Ou"[1053]. The necrology of the church of Eu records the anniversary "12 Jul" of "Henrici comitis Augi" who introduced "canonicos regulares" to the church[1054].
"m firstly MATHILDE, daughter of --- (-30 Mar [1107 or before]). "Henricus comes Augensis" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport "pro salute anime Matildis uxoris mee" with the consent of "frater meus Robertus" by a charter dated 1107[1055]. The necrology of Ulterioris Portus monastery records the death "30 Mar" of "Maltildis Augensis comitissa, Henrici comitis...sponsa"[1056].
"m secondly ERMENTRUDE, daughter of --- (-17 or 24 Apr ----). The necrology of Ulterioris Portus monastery records the death "17 Apr" of "Hermentrudis Augi comitissa"[1057]. The necrology of Longpont records the death “VIII Kal Mai” of “Hermetrudis comitissa Augi”[1058]. The necrology of Longpont contains numerous references to the Montlhéry family, Comtes de Rochefort (see PARIS REGION). The inclusion of Ermentrude suggests that she may be related to that family.
"m thirdly MARGUERITE de Sully, daughter of GUILLAUME de Blois Seigneur de Sully & his wife Agnes de Sully (-15 Dec [1145], bur Fécamp). "Henricus comes Augensis filius comitis Willermi" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport with the consent of "Margarita comitissa et fratres supradicti comitis Robertus, Willelmus major, Willelmus minor" by a charter dated 1101[1059]. The necrology of the church of Eu records the death "15 Dec" of "Margareta Augensis comitissa, mater Johannis comitis"[1060]."
Med Lands cites:
[1050] Tréport Saint-Michel 4, p. 20.
[1051] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XII, p. 191.
[1052] ES III 693.
[1053] Chronique de Robert de Torigny I, 1140, p. 218.
[1054] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario ecclesiæ Augensis, p. 450.
[1055] Tréport Saint-Michel 6, p. 25.
[1056] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario monasterio ulteriores portus, p. 452.
[1057] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario monasterio ulteriores portus, p. 452.
[1058] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Prieuré de Longpont, p. 523.
[1059] Tréport Saint-Michel 4, p. 20.
[1060] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario ecclesiæ Augensis, p. 451.10
[1051] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XII, p. 191.
[1052] ES III 693.
[1053] Chronique de Robert de Torigny I, 1140, p. 218.
[1054] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario ecclesiæ Augensis, p. 450.
[1055] Tréport Saint-Michel 6, p. 25.
[1056] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario monasterio ulteriores portus, p. 452.
[1057] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario monasterio ulteriores portus, p. 452.
[1058] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Prieuré de Longpont, p. 523.
[1059] Tréport Saint-Michel 4, p. 20.
[1060] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario ecclesiæ Augensis, p. 451.10
; Per Boyer:
"HENRY, Count d'Eu and Lord of Hastings, died 12 July 1140, and was buried in the Abbey of Foucannont.
"He married first Maud, or Mahaut, who died 30 March, in or before 1109.
"He married second Hennentmde, who died 17 or 24 April year unknown.
"He married third, as her third husband, MAR GARET DE CHAMPAGNE, who died 15 Dec. 1145, and was buried with her husband.
"He supported King Henry I against Duke Robert when the king visited Normandy in 1104, but was arrested in Rouen in 1118 as he was preparing to join the revolt in favor of the Duke's son, William. He was imprisoned until he surrendered bi's castles, but was then on Henry's side at the battle of Bremule on 20 Aug. 1119. He founded the Abbey of Foucannont, traditionally on 25 July 1130. He became a monk there, and died in 1140.
"Child, by third wife, son and heir:
5. i. John, d. 26 June 1170; m. Alice0 d' Aubigny, who d. 11 Sept. 1188."15
Family | Henri I d'Eu Comte d'Eu, Lord Hastings b. c 1080, d. 12 Jul 1140 |
Children |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Blois 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/blois/blois2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Sully: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199041&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/cfragobs.htm#MargueriteSullydied1145. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume de Blois: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046835&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/cfragobs.htm#GuillaumeChartresSullydied1150B
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Sully: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046836&tree=LEO
- [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 139-25, p. 133. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 77, d'EU 3. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199040&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#HenriIEu
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 23 September 2020), memorial page for Marguerite de Champagne (1105–15 Dec 1145), Find a Grave Memorial no. 86189848, citing Foucarmont Abbey, Foucarmont, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France; Maintained by Mad (contributor 47329061), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/86189848/marguerite-de_champagne. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Sully, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Sully.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’Eu, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Eu.pdf
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 77, d'EU 4.
- [S4743] Geneagraphie - Families all over the world (Website), online <http://geneagraphie.com/>, Ida d' Eu: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I75619&tree=1. Hereinafter cited as Geneagraphie.
Henri I d'Eu Comte d'Eu, Lord Hastings1,2,3,4
M, #12507, b. circa 1080, d. 12 July 1140
Father | Guillaume II (?) Cte d'Eu, Lord of Hastings5,6,7,2,3 b. c 1050, d. 2 Jan 1096 |
Mother | Béatrice de Builly Heiress of Tickhill, Yorkshire8,9,2,3 b. c 1058 |
Reference | GAV25 EDV25 |
Last Edited | 26 Sep 2020 |
Henri I d'Eu Comte d'Eu, Lord Hastings married Maud/Mahaut (?)
;
His 1st wife.1,3 Henri I d'Eu Comte d'Eu, Lord Hastings married Hermentrude (?)
;
His 2nd wife.1,3 Henri I d'Eu Comte d'Eu, Lord Hastings was born circa 1080.2 He married Marguerite de Sully, daughter of Guillaume de Blois comte de Chartres, Sire de Sully and Agnes de Sully,
;
His 3rd wife.4,10,5,2,3,11,12
Henri I d'Eu Comte d'Eu, Lord Hastings died on 12 July 1140.13,1,10,2
Henri I d'Eu Comte d'Eu, Lord Hastings was buried after 12 July 1140 at Foucarmont Abbey, Foucarmont, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1085, Denestanville, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France
DEATH 12 Jul 1139 (aged 53–54). Caen, Departement du Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France
Henri, Comté de Eu, was a feudal Lord of Hastings. The son of William II d'Eu and Beatrice de Busli. Henri was the founder of Foucarmont Abbey. He married Margueite, daughter of William de Champagne or William the Simple, the eldest son of Stephen, Count of Blois and Adela of Normandy, daughter of William the Conqueror and Matilda of Flanders. Henry became a monk and died July 12, 1139 and was buried at Foucarmont Abbey at Eu.
Family Members
Spouse
Marguerite de Champagne 1105–1145
Children
John d'Eu 1130–1170
BURIAL Foucarmont Abbey, Foucarmont, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France
Created by: Mad
Added: 3 Mar 2012
Find a Grave Memorial 86189008.14
; Per Weis: "Margaret of Champagne, d. 15 Dec. 1145; m. (3) Henry, Count d'Eu, Lord of Hastings, d. 12 July 1140, s. of William, Count d'Eu, Lord of Hastings, and Beatrice de Builly, sis. & event. h. in her issue of Roger de Builly, lord of Tickhill, co. York. (CP v:155-156; ES III.1/110; for the Norman pedigrees, see MOriarty, The Plantagenet Ancetry)."4
; Per Med Lands:
"MARGUERITE de Sully (-14 Dec 1145). "Henricus comes Augensis filius comitis Willermi" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport with the consent of "Margarita comitissa et fratres supradicti comitis Robertus, Willelmus major, Willelmus minor" by a charter dated 1101[796]. The necrology of the church of Eu records the death "15 Dec" of "Margareta Augensis comitissa, mater Johannis comitis"[797].
"m as his third wife, HENRI I Comte d'Eu, son of GUILLAUME I Comte d'Eu & his [first/second] wife --- (-Fécamp 12 Jul 1140)."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Sully): “Marguerite (alias Marie) de Sully + 14/12/1145
ép. Henri 1er, comte d’Eu + 12/07/1140 (Fécamp) (fils de Guillaume 1er, comte d’Eu) (cités dans des donations à Saint-Michel du Tréport par charte, en 1101)”.15
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Genealogics:
“Henri was the son of Guillaume II, comte d' Eu and lord of Hastings, and Béatrice de Builly.
“Henri joined a number of Norman nobles, including Hugh de Gournai, Stephen, comte d'Aumale, Eustace de Breteuil, Richer de Laigle, and Robert du Neubourg, in a revolt led by Baudouin VII, count of Flanders, against King Henry I aimed at restoring William Clito of Normandy, count of Flanders, the son of the deposed Duke Robert Curthose of Normandy and Baudouin's cousin, to his father's title and estates. When Henry learned of Henri's involvement he arrested him at Rouen, along with Hugh de Gournai, and threw him into prison until he surrendered his fortresses. Baudouin then invaded Normandy with a large Flemish force, but was wounded at Bures-en-Brai in September 1118, dying from neglect of his wound on 1 July the following year.
“In 1129 or 1130 Henri founded the Abbeye de Foucarmont where he became a monk and subsequently was buried. His third wife, Marguerite de Sully, the mother of his four children, was also buried at Foucarmont. He was succeeded by his son Jean I, who would have progeny.”.2
; This is the same person as ”Henry I, Count of Eu” at Wikipedia and as ”Henri d'Eu” at Wikipédia (FR).16,17 GAV-25 EDV-25 GKJ-26. He was Lord Hastings.13
; Per Boyer:
"HENRY, Count d'Eu and Lord of Hastings, died 12 July 1140, and was buried in the Abbey of Foucannont.
"He married first Maud, or Mahaut, who died 30 March, in or before 1109.
"He married second Hennentmde, who died 17 or 24 April year unknown.
"He married third, as her third husband, MAR GARET DE CHAMPAGNE, who died 15 Dec. 1145, and was buried with her husband.
"He supported King Henry I against Duke Robert when the king visited Normandy in 1104, but was arrested in Rouen in 1118 as he was preparing to join the revolt in favor of the Duke's son, William. He was imprisoned until he surrendered bi's castles, but was then on Henry's side at the battle of Bremule on 20 Aug. 1119. He founded the Abbey of Foucannont, traditionally on 25 July 1130. He became a monk there, and died in 1140.
"Child, by third wife, son and heir:
; Per Med Lands:
"HENRI d'Eu, son of GUILLAUME I Comte d'Eu & his [first/second] wife --- (-Fécamp 12 Jul 1140). "Henricus comes Augensis filius comitis Willermi" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport with the consent of "Margarita comitissa et fratres supradicti comitis Robertus, Willelmus major, Willelmus minor" by a charter dated 1101[1050]. He succeeded his father in 1096 as Comte d'Eu. In 1118, he supported a rebellion against Henry I King of England in favour of Guillaume "Clito" de Normandie, but was arrested at Rouen with Hugues de Gournay, "thrown into fetters and forced to surrender his castles"[1051]. He founded Saint-Martin-du-Bosc in [1107] and the abbey of Fécamp in 1129/30[1052]. He became a monk at the abbey of Fécamp. Robert of Torigny records the death in 1140 of "Henricus comes de Ou"[1053]. The necrology of the church of Eu records the anniversary "12 Jul" of "Henrici comitis Augi" who introduced "canonicos regulares" to the church[1054].
"m firstly MATHILDE, daughter of --- (-30 Mar [1107 or before]). "Henricus comes Augensis" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport "pro salute anime Matildis uxoris mee" with the consent of "frater meus Robertus" by a charter dated 1107[1055]. The necrology of Ulterioris Portus monastery records the death "30 Mar" of "Maltildis Augensis comitissa, Henrici comitis...sponsa"[1056].
"m secondly ERMENTRUDE, daughter of --- (-17 or 24 Apr ----). The necrology of Ulterioris Portus monastery records the death "17 Apr" of "Hermentrudis Augi comitissa"[1057]. The necrology of Longpont records the death “VIII Kal Mai” of “Hermetrudis comitissa Augi”[1058]. The necrology of Longpont contains numerous references to the Montlhéry family, Comtes de Rochefort (see PARIS REGION). The inclusion of Ermentrude suggests that she may be related to that family.
"m thirdly MARGUERITE de Sully, daughter of GUILLAUME de Blois Seigneur de Sully & his wife Agnes de Sully (-15 Dec [1145], bur Fécamp). "Henricus comes Augensis filius comitis Willermi" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport with the consent of "Margarita comitissa et fratres supradicti comitis Robertus, Willelmus major, Willelmus minor" by a charter dated 1101[1059]. The necrology of the church of Eu records the death "15 Dec" of "Margareta Augensis comitissa, mater Johannis comitis"[1060]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (d'Eu): “Henri 1er d’Eu + 12/07/1140 (Fécamp) comte d’Eu (1096), Lord of Hastings, partisan de Guillaume Cliton (1118) contre Henry 1er, arrêté à Rouen (avec Hugues de Gournay) et contraint de livrer ses châteaux, fonde SaintMartin du Bosc (1107) et l’Abbaye de Fécamp (1129/30) où il finit moine
ép. 1) Mahaut (Mathilde) + un 30/03 dès 1107 (citée dans une charte en sa mémoire 1107)
ép. 2) Ermentrude + un 17 ou 24/04
ép. 3) avant 1130 Marguerite de Sully (alias Marie, alias de Champagne) + 15/12/1145 (fille de Guillaume de Blois-Champagne, seigneur de Sully, et d’Agnès, dame de Sully)”.18 He was Count d'Eu between 1096 and 1140.4,19
; founded the Abbey of Foucarmont.1
;
His 1st wife.1,3 Henri I d'Eu Comte d'Eu, Lord Hastings married Hermentrude (?)
;
His 2nd wife.1,3 Henri I d'Eu Comte d'Eu, Lord Hastings was born circa 1080.2 He married Marguerite de Sully, daughter of Guillaume de Blois comte de Chartres, Sire de Sully and Agnes de Sully,
;
His 3rd wife.4,10,5,2,3,11,12
Henri I d'Eu Comte d'Eu, Lord Hastings died on 12 July 1140.13,1,10,2
Henri I d'Eu Comte d'Eu, Lord Hastings was buried after 12 July 1140 at Foucarmont Abbey, Foucarmont, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1085, Denestanville, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France
DEATH 12 Jul 1139 (aged 53–54). Caen, Departement du Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France
Henri, Comté de Eu, was a feudal Lord of Hastings. The son of William II d'Eu and Beatrice de Busli. Henri was the founder of Foucarmont Abbey. He married Margueite, daughter of William de Champagne or William the Simple, the eldest son of Stephen, Count of Blois and Adela of Normandy, daughter of William the Conqueror and Matilda of Flanders. Henry became a monk and died July 12, 1139 and was buried at Foucarmont Abbey at Eu.
Family Members
Spouse
Marguerite de Champagne 1105–1145
Children
John d'Eu 1130–1170
BURIAL Foucarmont Abbey, Foucarmont, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France
Created by: Mad
Added: 3 Mar 2012
Find a Grave Memorial 86189008.14
; Per Weis: "Margaret of Champagne, d. 15 Dec. 1145; m. (3) Henry, Count d'Eu, Lord of Hastings, d. 12 July 1140, s. of William, Count d'Eu, Lord of Hastings, and Beatrice de Builly, sis. & event. h. in her issue of Roger de Builly, lord of Tickhill, co. York. (CP v:155-156; ES III.1/110; for the Norman pedigrees, see MOriarty, The Plantagenet Ancetry)."4
; Per Med Lands:
"MARGUERITE de Sully (-14 Dec 1145). "Henricus comes Augensis filius comitis Willermi" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport with the consent of "Margarita comitissa et fratres supradicti comitis Robertus, Willelmus major, Willelmus minor" by a charter dated 1101[796]. The necrology of the church of Eu records the death "15 Dec" of "Margareta Augensis comitissa, mater Johannis comitis"[797].
"m as his third wife, HENRI I Comte d'Eu, son of GUILLAUME I Comte d'Eu & his [first/second] wife --- (-Fécamp 12 Jul 1140)."
Med Lands cites:
[796] Tréport Saint-Michel 4, p. 20.
[797] RHGF, Tome XXIII, Ex Obituario ecclesiæ Augensis, p. 451.3
[797] RHGF, Tome XXIII, Ex Obituario ecclesiæ Augensis, p. 451.3
; Per Racines et Histoire (Sully): “Marguerite (alias Marie) de Sully + 14/12/1145
ép. Henri 1er, comte d’Eu + 12/07/1140 (Fécamp) (fils de Guillaume 1er, comte d’Eu) (cités dans des donations à Saint-Michel du Tréport par charte, en 1101)”.15
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/4:693.
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 5:155.2
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 5:155.2
; Per Genealogics:
“Henri was the son of Guillaume II, comte d' Eu and lord of Hastings, and Béatrice de Builly.
“Henri joined a number of Norman nobles, including Hugh de Gournai, Stephen, comte d'Aumale, Eustace de Breteuil, Richer de Laigle, and Robert du Neubourg, in a revolt led by Baudouin VII, count of Flanders, against King Henry I aimed at restoring William Clito of Normandy, count of Flanders, the son of the deposed Duke Robert Curthose of Normandy and Baudouin's cousin, to his father's title and estates. When Henry learned of Henri's involvement he arrested him at Rouen, along with Hugh de Gournai, and threw him into prison until he surrendered his fortresses. Baudouin then invaded Normandy with a large Flemish force, but was wounded at Bures-en-Brai in September 1118, dying from neglect of his wound on 1 July the following year.
“In 1129 or 1130 Henri founded the Abbeye de Foucarmont where he became a monk and subsequently was buried. His third wife, Marguerite de Sully, the mother of his four children, was also buried at Foucarmont. He was succeeded by his son Jean I, who would have progeny.”.2
; This is the same person as ”Henry I, Count of Eu” at Wikipedia and as ”Henri d'Eu” at Wikipédia (FR).16,17 GAV-25 EDV-25 GKJ-26. He was Lord Hastings.13
; Per Boyer:
"HENRY, Count d'Eu and Lord of Hastings, died 12 July 1140, and was buried in the Abbey of Foucannont.
"He married first Maud, or Mahaut, who died 30 March, in or before 1109.
"He married second Hennentmde, who died 17 or 24 April year unknown.
"He married third, as her third husband, MAR GARET DE CHAMPAGNE, who died 15 Dec. 1145, and was buried with her husband.
"He supported King Henry I against Duke Robert when the king visited Normandy in 1104, but was arrested in Rouen in 1118 as he was preparing to join the revolt in favor of the Duke's son, William. He was imprisoned until he surrendered bi's castles, but was then on Henry's side at the battle of Bremule on 20 Aug. 1119. He founded the Abbey of Foucannont, traditionally on 25 July 1130. He became a monk there, and died in 1140.
"Child, by third wife, son and heir:
5. i. John, d. 26 June 1170; m. Alice0 d' Aubigny, who d. 11 Sept. 1188."1
; Per Med Lands:
"HENRI d'Eu, son of GUILLAUME I Comte d'Eu & his [first/second] wife --- (-Fécamp 12 Jul 1140). "Henricus comes Augensis filius comitis Willermi" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport with the consent of "Margarita comitissa et fratres supradicti comitis Robertus, Willelmus major, Willelmus minor" by a charter dated 1101[1050]. He succeeded his father in 1096 as Comte d'Eu. In 1118, he supported a rebellion against Henry I King of England in favour of Guillaume "Clito" de Normandie, but was arrested at Rouen with Hugues de Gournay, "thrown into fetters and forced to surrender his castles"[1051]. He founded Saint-Martin-du-Bosc in [1107] and the abbey of Fécamp in 1129/30[1052]. He became a monk at the abbey of Fécamp. Robert of Torigny records the death in 1140 of "Henricus comes de Ou"[1053]. The necrology of the church of Eu records the anniversary "12 Jul" of "Henrici comitis Augi" who introduced "canonicos regulares" to the church[1054].
"m firstly MATHILDE, daughter of --- (-30 Mar [1107 or before]). "Henricus comes Augensis" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport "pro salute anime Matildis uxoris mee" with the consent of "frater meus Robertus" by a charter dated 1107[1055]. The necrology of Ulterioris Portus monastery records the death "30 Mar" of "Maltildis Augensis comitissa, Henrici comitis...sponsa"[1056].
"m secondly ERMENTRUDE, daughter of --- (-17 or 24 Apr ----). The necrology of Ulterioris Portus monastery records the death "17 Apr" of "Hermentrudis Augi comitissa"[1057]. The necrology of Longpont records the death “VIII Kal Mai” of “Hermetrudis comitissa Augi”[1058]. The necrology of Longpont contains numerous references to the Montlhéry family, Comtes de Rochefort (see PARIS REGION). The inclusion of Ermentrude suggests that she may be related to that family.
"m thirdly MARGUERITE de Sully, daughter of GUILLAUME de Blois Seigneur de Sully & his wife Agnes de Sully (-15 Dec [1145], bur Fécamp). "Henricus comes Augensis filius comitis Willermi" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport with the consent of "Margarita comitissa et fratres supradicti comitis Robertus, Willelmus major, Willelmus minor" by a charter dated 1101[1059]. The necrology of the church of Eu records the death "15 Dec" of "Margareta Augensis comitissa, mater Johannis comitis"[1060]."
Med Lands cites:
[1050] Tréport Saint-Michel 4, p. 20.
[1051] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XII, p. 191.
[1052] ES III 693.
[1053] Chronique de Robert de Torigny I, 1140, p. 218.
[1054] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario ecclesiæ Augensis, p. 450.
[1055] Tréport Saint-Michel 6, p. 25.
[1056] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario monasterio ulteriores portus, p. 452.
[1057] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario monasterio ulteriores portus, p. 452.
[1058] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Prieuré de Longpont, p. 523.
[1059] Tréport Saint-Michel 4, p. 20.
[1060] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario ecclesiæ Augensis, p. 451.3
[1051] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XII, p. 191.
[1052] ES III 693.
[1053] Chronique de Robert de Torigny I, 1140, p. 218.
[1054] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario ecclesiæ Augensis, p. 450.
[1055] Tréport Saint-Michel 6, p. 25.
[1056] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario monasterio ulteriores portus, p. 452.
[1057] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario monasterio ulteriores portus, p. 452.
[1058] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Prieuré de Longpont, p. 523.
[1059] Tréport Saint-Michel 4, p. 20.
[1060] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario ecclesiæ Augensis, p. 451.3
; Per Racines et Histoire (d'Eu): “Henri 1er d’Eu + 12/07/1140 (Fécamp) comte d’Eu (1096), Lord of Hastings, partisan de Guillaume Cliton (1118) contre Henry 1er, arrêté à Rouen (avec Hugues de Gournay) et contraint de livrer ses châteaux, fonde SaintMartin du Bosc (1107) et l’Abbaye de Fécamp (1129/30) où il finit moine
ép. 1) Mahaut (Mathilde) + un 30/03 dès 1107 (citée dans une charte en sa mémoire 1107)
ép. 2) Ermentrude + un 17 ou 24/04
ép. 3) avant 1130 Marguerite de Sully (alias Marie, alias de Champagne) + 15/12/1145 (fille de Guillaume de Blois-Champagne, seigneur de Sully, et d’Agnès, dame de Sully)”.18 He was Count d'Eu between 1096 and 1140.4,19
; founded the Abbey of Foucarmont.1
Family 1 | Hermentrude (?) |
Family 2 | Maud/Mahaut (?) d. c 30 Mar 1109 |
Family 3 | Marguerite de Sully d. c 15 Dec 1145 |
Children |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 77, d'EU 4. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199040&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#HenriIEu. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 139-25, p. 133. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 77, d'EU 3.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199038&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#GuillaumeIIEudied1096
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Béatrice de Builly: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00421112&tree=LEO
- [S4743] Geneagraphie - Families all over the world (Website), online <http://geneagraphie.com/>, Beatrice de Bouilly: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I42089&tree=1. Hereinafter cited as Geneagraphie.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Blois 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/blois/blois2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Sully: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199041&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/cfragobs.htm#MargueriteSullydied1145
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 139-25, p. 122. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 23 September 2020), memorial page for Henri d'Eu (1085–12 Jul 1139), Find a Grave Memorial no. 86189008, citing Foucarmont Abbey, Foucarmont, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France; Maintained by Mad (contributor 47329061), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/86189008/henri-d'eu. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Sully, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Sully.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_I,_Count_of_Eu. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Henri d'Eu: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_d%27Eu. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’Eu, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Eu.pdf
- [S4742] Wikipédia (FR), online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Liste des comtes d'Eu: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_comtes_d%27Eu
- [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, Line 139-26, p. 133.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
- [S4743] Geneagraphie, online http://geneagraphie.com/, Ida d' Eu: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I75619&tree=1
Guillaume II (?) Cte d'Eu, Lord of Hastings1,2,3,4
M, #12508, b. circa 1050, d. 2 January 1096
Father | Robert I d'Eu Comte d'Eu5,6,7,8,3,4 b. c 1020, d. bt 14 Apr 1089 - 8 Sep 1093 |
Mother | Beatrice (?)6,3,8,4 d. c 10 Apr 1085 |
Reference | GAV26 EDV26 |
Last Edited | 23 Sep 2020 |
Guillaume II (?) Cte d'Eu, Lord of Hastings married Béatrice de Builly Heiress of Tickhill, Yorkshire, daughter of Roger I de Builly Lord of Tickhill and Muriel Chappell,
;
His 1st wife.9,8,4,10,11,12 Guillaume II (?) Cte d'Eu, Lord of Hastings married Hélisende Le Goz d'Avranches, daughter of Richard Le Goz (?) Vicomte d'Eu, seigneur d'Avranches et d'Hiesmes,
;
His 2nd wife.8,3,4,10,13,14,15 Guillaume II (?) Cte d'Eu, Lord of Hastings was born circa 1050; Genealogics says b. ca 1050; Racines et Histoire (Comtes d'Eu) says b. ca 1045.8,10
Guillaume II (?) Cte d'Eu, Lord of Hastings died on 2 January 1096; Racines et Histoire (Avranches) says d. 2 Jan 1096; Med Lands and Racines et Histoire (Comtes d'Eu) say d. 2 Jan aft 1096.16,17,4,10
; Per Genealogics:
"Guillaume was the son of Robert, comte d'Eu, and Béatrice. About 1093 Guillaume succeeded his father as count of Eu in France. He also became lord of Hastings in England. He was married twice, first to Béatrice de Builly, daughter of Roger de Builly and heiress of Tickhill in Yorkshire, and secondly to Hélissende Le Goz d'Avranches, daughter of Richard Le Goz, vicomte d'Avranches. He fathered four sons, of whom Henri would have progeny.
"At the Council of Salisbury in January 1096 Guillaume was charged with treason as one of the conspirators against King William II Rufus in 1095. Having been vanquished in single combat by his accuser, he was condemned to be blinded. At the insistence of Hugh 'le Gros' d'Avranches, 1st earl of Chester, who was his brother-in-law, but also the nephew of William the Conqueror) he was also condemned to be emasculated. Nothing further is known about him, and he must have died then or soon after as it is known that he died on 2 January of an unknown year."2 GAV-26 EDV-26 GKJ-27.
; This is the same person as ”William II, Count of Eu” at Wikipedia and as ”Guillaume II d'Eu” at Wikipédia (FR).18,19
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Boyer:
"WILLIAMS, the Count d'Eu and lord of Hastings, Sussex, died about 1095/6 [CP, 14:311].
"He married first BEATRICE5 DE BUILLY, heiress ofTickhill, Yorkshire.
"He manied possibly second Helisende d'Avranches (sister of Hugh, Earl of Chester), daughter of Richard fitz Toustain Goz, vicomte d' Avranches.
"In 1093 Rufus won him over by bribes, but in 1095 he participated in Mowbray's plot to kill the king and place the Count of Aumale on the throne, while known as William de Owe or de Auco [CP, 5:154a, 14:311].
"Child, by first wife:
; Per Med Lands:
"GUILLAUME d'Eu (-2 Jan after 1096). "Robertus comes Augensis…uxore Beatrice et filiis meis Radulfo, Willermo atque Roberto" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport by a charter dated 1036, witnessed by "Hugo vicecomes"[1026]. Domesday Book records land held by “William de Eu” in King’s Somborne in Somborne Hundred, Deane in Chuteley Hundred, and Silchester in Holdshott Hundred in Hampshire, in Reading, Kintbury and Wantage Hundreds in Berkshire, numerous land-holdings in Wiltshire, land in Hertfordshire[1027]. He ravaged Gloucestershire in 1089 after plundering Berkeley castle[1028]. He succeeded in [1093] as Comte d'Eu, Lord of Hastings. Florence of Worcester records that "Willelmi comes de Owe" deserted Robert Duke of Normandy in [1093/94] "won over by his greediness of lucre and attracted by the promise of vast domains" by William II King of England[1029]. Florence of Worcester records that "Northymbrensis comes Rotbertus de Mulbrei et Willelmus de Owe" conspired against William II King of England in [1095], planning to place "filium amitæ illius Stephanus de Albamarno" on the English throne[1030]. The same source records that Guillaume was captured after being vanquished in a duel, and condemned at Salisbury 13 Jan 1096 to be blinded and castrated[1031]. The necrology of the church of Eu records the death "2 Jan" of "Guillelmus primus comes Augi, fundator hujus ecclesiæ"[1032]. The necrology of Ulterioris Portus monastery records the death "2 Jan" of "Augensis comes Guillermus...Roberti, nostri monasterii fundatoris, filii"[1033].
"m firstly BEATRICE, sister of ROGER de Builly Lord of Tickhill, daughter of --- & his wife --- (-2 Sep ----). She is named as the first wife of Comte Guillaume in the Complete Peerage, which does not cite the primary source on which the information is based[1034]. The primary source which confirms her origin has not yet been identified. The necrology of Longpont records the death “IV Non Sep” of “Beatrix comitissa”[1035].
"m secondly HELISENDE d'Avranches, daughter of RICHARD Vicomte d'Avranches & his wife ---. Her marriage is referred to by Orderic Vitalis, who says that she was the sister of Hugh Earl of Chester but does not give her name[1036]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Comtes d’Eu): “1) Guillaume II d’Eu °~1045 comte d’Eu (1093) + un 02/01 après 1096 ravage le Gloucestershire (1089) près Berkeley, fait Lord of Hastings (Sussex), vénal et ambitieux, il abandonne la cause de Robert, duc de Normandie au profit de Guillaume II «Le Roux» (1093/94), plus généreux, puis conspire avec Robert de Mowbray, earl of Northumberland (1095) contre le même Roi Guillaume II, partisan d’Etienne, comte d’Aumale, il est vaincu en combat, capturé, condamné (13/01/1096, Salisbury) à être aveuglé et châtré, probablement exécuté peu après (1097 ?)
ép. 1) Béatrice de Builly (soeur de Roger de Builly, Lord of Tickhill)
ép. 2) Hélisende d’Avranches ° ~1065 (fille de Richard Goz, vicomte d’Avranches, et d’Emma de Conteville, fille d’Herluin de Conteville et d’Herleue de Falaise ; soeur de l’earl of Chester) liaison(s) avec ?) ”.10
; Per Racines et Histoire (Avranches): “Hélissende d’Avranches
ép. Guillaume II, comte d’Eu + 02/01/1096 (fils de Robert, comte d’Eu, et de Béatrix)”.3
; Per Med Lands:
"HELISENDE d'Avranches . Her marriage is referred to by Orderic Vitalis, who says that she was the sister of Hugh Earl of Chester but does not give her name[125]. The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified.
"m as his second wife, GUILLAUME [II] Comte d'Eu, son of ROBERT Comte d'Eu & his first wife Beatrix --- (-2 Jan after 1096)."
Med Lands cites:
;
His 1st wife.9,8,4,10,11,12 Guillaume II (?) Cte d'Eu, Lord of Hastings married Hélisende Le Goz d'Avranches, daughter of Richard Le Goz (?) Vicomte d'Eu, seigneur d'Avranches et d'Hiesmes,
;
His 2nd wife.8,3,4,10,13,14,15 Guillaume II (?) Cte d'Eu, Lord of Hastings was born circa 1050; Genealogics says b. ca 1050; Racines et Histoire (Comtes d'Eu) says b. ca 1045.8,10
Guillaume II (?) Cte d'Eu, Lord of Hastings died on 2 January 1096; Racines et Histoire (Avranches) says d. 2 Jan 1096; Med Lands and Racines et Histoire (Comtes d'Eu) say d. 2 Jan aft 1096.16,17,4,10
; Per Genealogics:
"Guillaume was the son of Robert, comte d'Eu, and Béatrice. About 1093 Guillaume succeeded his father as count of Eu in France. He also became lord of Hastings in England. He was married twice, first to Béatrice de Builly, daughter of Roger de Builly and heiress of Tickhill in Yorkshire, and secondly to Hélissende Le Goz d'Avranches, daughter of Richard Le Goz, vicomte d'Avranches. He fathered four sons, of whom Henri would have progeny.
"At the Council of Salisbury in January 1096 Guillaume was charged with treason as one of the conspirators against King William II Rufus in 1095. Having been vanquished in single combat by his accuser, he was condemned to be blinded. At the insistence of Hugh 'le Gros' d'Avranches, 1st earl of Chester, who was his brother-in-law, but also the nephew of William the Conqueror) he was also condemned to be emasculated. Nothing further is known about him, and he must have died then or soon after as it is known that he died on 2 January of an unknown year."2 GAV-26 EDV-26 GKJ-27.
; This is the same person as ”William II, Count of Eu” at Wikipedia and as ”Guillaume II d'Eu” at Wikipédia (FR).18,19
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: III 693.
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 154.8
Guillaume II (?) Cte d'Eu, Lord of Hastings was also known as William III (?) Count d'Eu, Lord Hastings.16,1 He was Lord Hastings.20 2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 154.8
; Per Boyer:
"WILLIAMS, the Count d'Eu and lord of Hastings, Sussex, died about 1095/6 [CP, 14:311].
"He married first BEATRICE5 DE BUILLY, heiress ofTickhill, Yorkshire.
"He manied possibly second Helisende d'Avranches (sister of Hugh, Earl of Chester), daughter of Richard fitz Toustain Goz, vicomte d' Avranches.
"In 1093 Rufus won him over by bribes, but in 1095 he participated in Mowbray's plot to kill the king and place the Count of Aumale on the throne, while known as William de Owe or de Auco [CP, 5:154a, 14:311].
"Child, by first wife:
i. Henry, d. 12 July 1140; m. (1) Maud, m. (2) Hennentmde, m. (3) MargaretR de Champagne, who d. 15 Dec. 1145."16
; Per Med Lands:
"GUILLAUME d'Eu (-2 Jan after 1096). "Robertus comes Augensis…uxore Beatrice et filiis meis Radulfo, Willermo atque Roberto" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport by a charter dated 1036, witnessed by "Hugo vicecomes"[1026]. Domesday Book records land held by “William de Eu” in King’s Somborne in Somborne Hundred, Deane in Chuteley Hundred, and Silchester in Holdshott Hundred in Hampshire, in Reading, Kintbury and Wantage Hundreds in Berkshire, numerous land-holdings in Wiltshire, land in Hertfordshire[1027]. He ravaged Gloucestershire in 1089 after plundering Berkeley castle[1028]. He succeeded in [1093] as Comte d'Eu, Lord of Hastings. Florence of Worcester records that "Willelmi comes de Owe" deserted Robert Duke of Normandy in [1093/94] "won over by his greediness of lucre and attracted by the promise of vast domains" by William II King of England[1029]. Florence of Worcester records that "Northymbrensis comes Rotbertus de Mulbrei et Willelmus de Owe" conspired against William II King of England in [1095], planning to place "filium amitæ illius Stephanus de Albamarno" on the English throne[1030]. The same source records that Guillaume was captured after being vanquished in a duel, and condemned at Salisbury 13 Jan 1096 to be blinded and castrated[1031]. The necrology of the church of Eu records the death "2 Jan" of "Guillelmus primus comes Augi, fundator hujus ecclesiæ"[1032]. The necrology of Ulterioris Portus monastery records the death "2 Jan" of "Augensis comes Guillermus...Roberti, nostri monasterii fundatoris, filii"[1033].
"m firstly BEATRICE, sister of ROGER de Builly Lord of Tickhill, daughter of --- & his wife --- (-2 Sep ----). She is named as the first wife of Comte Guillaume in the Complete Peerage, which does not cite the primary source on which the information is based[1034]. The primary source which confirms her origin has not yet been identified. The necrology of Longpont records the death “IV Non Sep” of “Beatrix comitissa”[1035].
"m secondly HELISENDE d'Avranches, daughter of RICHARD Vicomte d'Avranches & his wife ---. Her marriage is referred to by Orderic Vitalis, who says that she was the sister of Hugh Earl of Chester but does not give her name[1036]."
Med Lands cites:
[1026] Tréport Saint-Michel 1, p. 1.
[1027] Domesday Translation, Hampshire, XXXII, p. 113, Berkshire, XXIII, p. 150, Wiltshire, XXXII, pp. 184-5, Hertfordshire, XXVIII, p. 384.
[1028] Florence of Worcester 1088, p. 189.
[1029] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, p. 33.
[1030] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, p. 38.
[1031] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, p. 39.
[1032] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario ecclesiæ Augensis, p. 449.
[1033] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario monasterio ulteriores portus, p. 451.
[1034] CP V 154.
[1035] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Prieuré de Longpont, p. 526.
[1036] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. IV, Book VIII, p. 285.4
[1027] Domesday Translation, Hampshire, XXXII, p. 113, Berkshire, XXIII, p. 150, Wiltshire, XXXII, pp. 184-5, Hertfordshire, XXVIII, p. 384.
[1028] Florence of Worcester 1088, p. 189.
[1029] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, p. 33.
[1030] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, p. 38.
[1031] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, p. 39.
[1032] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario ecclesiæ Augensis, p. 449.
[1033] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario monasterio ulteriores portus, p. 451.
[1034] CP V 154.
[1035] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Prieuré de Longpont, p. 526.
[1036] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. IV, Book VIII, p. 285.4
; Per Racines et Histoire (Comtes d’Eu): “1) Guillaume II d’Eu °~1045 comte d’Eu (1093) + un 02/01 après 1096 ravage le Gloucestershire (1089) près Berkeley, fait Lord of Hastings (Sussex), vénal et ambitieux, il abandonne la cause de Robert, duc de Normandie au profit de Guillaume II «Le Roux» (1093/94), plus généreux, puis conspire avec Robert de Mowbray, earl of Northumberland (1095) contre le même Roi Guillaume II, partisan d’Etienne, comte d’Aumale, il est vaincu en combat, capturé, condamné (13/01/1096, Salisbury) à être aveuglé et châtré, probablement exécuté peu après (1097 ?)
ép. 1) Béatrice de Builly (soeur de Roger de Builly, Lord of Tickhill)
ép. 2) Hélisende d’Avranches ° ~1065 (fille de Richard Goz, vicomte d’Avranches, et d’Emma de Conteville, fille d’Herluin de Conteville et d’Herleue de Falaise ; soeur de l’earl of Chester) liaison(s) avec ?) ”.10
; Per Racines et Histoire (Avranches): “Hélissende d’Avranches
ép. Guillaume II, comte d’Eu + 02/01/1096 (fils de Robert, comte d’Eu, et de Béatrix)”.3
; Per Med Lands:
"HELISENDE d'Avranches . Her marriage is referred to by Orderic Vitalis, who says that she was the sister of Hugh Earl of Chester but does not give her name[125]. The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified.
"m as his second wife, GUILLAUME [II] Comte d'Eu, son of ROBERT Comte d'Eu & his first wife Beatrix --- (-2 Jan after 1096)."
Med Lands cites:
[125] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. IV, Book VIII, p. 285.14
He was Count d'Eu between 1091 and 1096.20Family 1 | Hélisende Le Goz d'Avranches b. c 1045 |
Family 2 | Béatrice de Builly Heiress of Tickhill, Yorkshire b. c 1058 |
Child |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199038&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Vicomtes d’Avranches, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avranches.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#GuillaumeIIEudied1096. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 76-77, d'EU 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00163594&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199038&tree=LEO
- [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 139-25, p. 133. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’Eu, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Eu.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Béatrice de Builly: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00421112&tree=LEO
- [S4743] Geneagraphie - Families all over the world (Website), online <http://geneagraphie.com/>, Beatrice de Bouilly: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I42089&tree=1. Hereinafter cited as Geneagraphie.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hélissende Le Goz d'Avranches: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00421113&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#HelisendeAvranchesMGuillaumeIIEu
- [S4743] Geneagraphie, online http://geneagraphie.com/, Jenare d' Avranches: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I574071&tree=1
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 77, d'EU 3.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avranches.pdf, p. 2.
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_II,_Count_of_Eu. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Guillaume II d'Eu: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillaume_II_d%27Eu. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 139-25, p. 122. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199040&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#HenriIEu
Béatrice de Builly Heiress of Tickhill, Yorkshire1,2
F, #12509, b. circa 1058
Father | Roger I de Builly Lord of Tickhill3,4,2,5 d. b 1100 |
Mother | Muriel Chappell6,5,7 b. c 1040 |
Reference | GAV26 EDV26 |
Last Edited | 1 Oct 2020 |
Béatrice de Builly Heiress of Tickhill, Yorkshire married Guillaume II (?) Cte d'Eu, Lord of Hastings, son of Robert I d'Eu Comte d'Eu and Beatrice (?),
;
His 1st wife.8,9,3,1,2,5 Béatrice de Builly Heiress of Tickhill, Yorkshire was born circa 1058 at Tickhill Castle, Yorkshire, England.5
; Per Med Lands:
"GUILLAUME d'Eu (-2 Jan after 1096). "Robertus comes Augensis…uxore Beatrice et filiis meis Radulfo, Willermo atque Roberto" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport by a charter dated 1036, witnessed by "Hugo vicecomes"[1026]. Domesday Book records land held by “William de Eu” in King’s Somborne in Somborne Hundred, Deane in Chuteley Hundred, and Silchester in Holdshott Hundred in Hampshire, in Reading, Kintbury and Wantage Hundreds in Berkshire, numerous land-holdings in Wiltshire, land in Hertfordshire[1027]. He ravaged Gloucestershire in 1089 after plundering Berkeley castle[1028]. He succeeded in [1093] as Comte d'Eu, Lord of Hastings. Florence of Worcester records that "Willelmi comes de Owe" deserted Robert Duke of Normandy in [1093/94] "won over by his greediness of lucre and attracted by the promise of vast domains" by William II King of England[1029]. Florence of Worcester records that "Northymbrensis comes Rotbertus de Mulbrei et Willelmus de Owe" conspired against William II King of England in [1095], planning to place "filium amitæ illius Stephanus de Albamarno" on the English throne[1030]. The same source records that Guillaume was captured after being vanquished in a duel, and condemned at Salisbury 13 Jan 1096 to be blinded and castrated[1031]. The necrology of the church of Eu records the death "2 Jan" of "Guillelmus primus comes Augi, fundator hujus ecclesiæ"[1032]. The necrology of Ulterioris Portus monastery records the death "2 Jan" of "Augensis comes Guillermus...Roberti, nostri monasterii fundatoris, filii"[1033].
"m firstly BEATRICE, sister of ROGER de Builly Lord of Tickhill, daughter of --- & his wife --- (-2 Sep ----). She is named as the first wife of Comte Guillaume in the Complete Peerage, which does not cite the primary source on which the information is based[1034]. The primary source which confirms her origin has not yet been identified. The necrology of Longpont records the death “IV Non Sep” of “Beatrix comitissa”[1035].
"m secondly HELISENDE d'Avranches, daughter of RICHARD Vicomte d'Avranches & his wife ---. Her marriage is referred to by Orderic Vitalis, who says that she was the sister of Hugh Earl of Chester but does not give her name[1036]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Comtes d’Eu): “1) Guillaume II d’Eu °~1045 comte d’Eu (1093) + un 02/01 après 1096 ravage le Gloucestershire (1089) près Berkeley, fait Lord of Hastings (Sussex), vénal et ambitieux, il abandonne la cause de Robert, duc de Normandie au profit de Guillaume II «Le Roux» (1093/94), plus généreux, puis conspire avec Robert de Mowbray, earl of Northumberland (1095) contre le même Roi Guillaume II, partisan d’Etienne, comte d’Aumale, il est vaincu en combat, capturé, condamné (13/01/1096, Salisbury) à être aveuglé et châtré, probablement exécuté peu après (1097 ?)
ép. 1) Béatrice de Builly (soeur de Roger de Builly, Lord of Tickhill)
ép. 2) Hélisende d’Avranches ° ~1065 (fille de Richard Goz, vicomte d’Avranches, et d’Emma de Conteville, fille d’Herluin de Conteville et d’Herleue de Falaise ; soeur de l’earl of Chester) liaison(s) avec ?) ”.1
; Per Boyer:
"WILLIAMS, the Count d'Eu and lord of Hastings, Sussex, died about 1095/6 [CP, 14:311].
"He married first BEATRICE5 DE BUILLY, heiress ofTickhill, Yorkshire.
"He manied possibly second Helisende d'Avranches (sister of Hugh, Earl of Chester), daughter of Richard fitz Toustain Goz, vicomte d' Avranches.
"In 1093 Rufus won him over by bribes, but in 1095 he participated in Mowbray's plot to kill the king and place the Count of Aumale on the throne, while known as William de Owe or de Auco [CP, 5:154a, 14:311].
"Child, by first wife:
; Per Wikipedia:
"Beatrice de Builli, daughter of Roger I de Builly (d. circa 1098/1100), feudal baron of Tickhill in Yorkshire[1] and sister and heiress of Roger II de Builli.[1]"
Wikipedia cites: [1] Sanders, I.J. (1960). English Baronies: A Study of their Origin and Descent 1086-1327. Oxford at the Clarendon Press, p. 119.11 Béatrice de Builly Heiress of Tickhill, Yorkshire was also known as Béatrice de Bouilly.5
Béatrice de Builly Heiress of Tickhill, Yorkshire was educated; Genealogics cites:
; Per Weis: “...sis. & event. h. in her issue of Roger de Buily, lord of Tickhill, co., York.”.8
;
His 1st wife.8,9,3,1,2,5 Béatrice de Builly Heiress of Tickhill, Yorkshire was born circa 1058 at Tickhill Castle, Yorkshire, England.5
; Per Med Lands:
"GUILLAUME d'Eu (-2 Jan after 1096). "Robertus comes Augensis…uxore Beatrice et filiis meis Radulfo, Willermo atque Roberto" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport by a charter dated 1036, witnessed by "Hugo vicecomes"[1026]. Domesday Book records land held by “William de Eu” in King’s Somborne in Somborne Hundred, Deane in Chuteley Hundred, and Silchester in Holdshott Hundred in Hampshire, in Reading, Kintbury and Wantage Hundreds in Berkshire, numerous land-holdings in Wiltshire, land in Hertfordshire[1027]. He ravaged Gloucestershire in 1089 after plundering Berkeley castle[1028]. He succeeded in [1093] as Comte d'Eu, Lord of Hastings. Florence of Worcester records that "Willelmi comes de Owe" deserted Robert Duke of Normandy in [1093/94] "won over by his greediness of lucre and attracted by the promise of vast domains" by William II King of England[1029]. Florence of Worcester records that "Northymbrensis comes Rotbertus de Mulbrei et Willelmus de Owe" conspired against William II King of England in [1095], planning to place "filium amitæ illius Stephanus de Albamarno" on the English throne[1030]. The same source records that Guillaume was captured after being vanquished in a duel, and condemned at Salisbury 13 Jan 1096 to be blinded and castrated[1031]. The necrology of the church of Eu records the death "2 Jan" of "Guillelmus primus comes Augi, fundator hujus ecclesiæ"[1032]. The necrology of Ulterioris Portus monastery records the death "2 Jan" of "Augensis comes Guillermus...Roberti, nostri monasterii fundatoris, filii"[1033].
"m firstly BEATRICE, sister of ROGER de Builly Lord of Tickhill, daughter of --- & his wife --- (-2 Sep ----). She is named as the first wife of Comte Guillaume in the Complete Peerage, which does not cite the primary source on which the information is based[1034]. The primary source which confirms her origin has not yet been identified. The necrology of Longpont records the death “IV Non Sep” of “Beatrix comitissa”[1035].
"m secondly HELISENDE d'Avranches, daughter of RICHARD Vicomte d'Avranches & his wife ---. Her marriage is referred to by Orderic Vitalis, who says that she was the sister of Hugh Earl of Chester but does not give her name[1036]."
Med Lands cites:
[1026] Tréport Saint-Michel 1, p. 1.
[1027] Domesday Translation, Hampshire, XXXII, p. 113, Berkshire, XXIII, p. 150, Wiltshire, XXXII, pp. 184-5, Hertfordshire, XXVIII, p. 384.
[1028] Florence of Worcester 1088, p. 189.
[1029] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, p. 33.
[1030] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, p. 38.
[1031] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, p. 39.
[1032] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario ecclesiæ Augensis, p. 449.
[1033] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario monasterio ulteriores portus, p. 451.
[1034] CP V 154.
[1035] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Prieuré de Longpont, p. 526.
[1036] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. IV, Book VIII, p. 285.3
[1027] Domesday Translation, Hampshire, XXXII, p. 113, Berkshire, XXIII, p. 150, Wiltshire, XXXII, pp. 184-5, Hertfordshire, XXVIII, p. 384.
[1028] Florence of Worcester 1088, p. 189.
[1029] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, p. 33.
[1030] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, p. 38.
[1031] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, p. 39.
[1032] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario ecclesiæ Augensis, p. 449.
[1033] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario monasterio ulteriores portus, p. 451.
[1034] CP V 154.
[1035] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Prieuré de Longpont, p. 526.
[1036] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. IV, Book VIII, p. 285.3
; Per Racines et Histoire (Comtes d’Eu): “1) Guillaume II d’Eu °~1045 comte d’Eu (1093) + un 02/01 après 1096 ravage le Gloucestershire (1089) près Berkeley, fait Lord of Hastings (Sussex), vénal et ambitieux, il abandonne la cause de Robert, duc de Normandie au profit de Guillaume II «Le Roux» (1093/94), plus généreux, puis conspire avec Robert de Mowbray, earl of Northumberland (1095) contre le même Roi Guillaume II, partisan d’Etienne, comte d’Aumale, il est vaincu en combat, capturé, condamné (13/01/1096, Salisbury) à être aveuglé et châtré, probablement exécuté peu après (1097 ?)
ép. 1) Béatrice de Builly (soeur de Roger de Builly, Lord of Tickhill)
ép. 2) Hélisende d’Avranches ° ~1065 (fille de Richard Goz, vicomte d’Avranches, et d’Emma de Conteville, fille d’Herluin de Conteville et d’Herleue de Falaise ; soeur de l’earl of Chester) liaison(s) avec ?) ”.1
; Per Boyer:
"WILLIAMS, the Count d'Eu and lord of Hastings, Sussex, died about 1095/6 [CP, 14:311].
"He married first BEATRICE5 DE BUILLY, heiress ofTickhill, Yorkshire.
"He manied possibly second Helisende d'Avranches (sister of Hugh, Earl of Chester), daughter of Richard fitz Toustain Goz, vicomte d' Avranches.
"In 1093 Rufus won him over by bribes, but in 1095 he participated in Mowbray's plot to kill the king and place the Count of Aumale on the throne, while known as William de Owe or de Auco [CP, 5:154a, 14:311].
"Child, by first wife:
i. Henry, d. 12 July 1140; m. (1) Maud, m. (2) Hennentmde, m. (3) MargaretR de Champagne, who d. 15 Dec. 1145."10
; Per Wikipedia:
"Beatrice de Builli, daughter of Roger I de Builly (d. circa 1098/1100), feudal baron of Tickhill in Yorkshire[1] and sister and heiress of Roger II de Builli.[1]"
Wikipedia cites: [1] Sanders, I.J. (1960). English Baronies: A Study of their Origin and Descent 1086-1327. Oxford at the Clarendon Press, p. 119.11 Béatrice de Builly Heiress of Tickhill, Yorkshire was also known as Béatrice de Bouilly.5
Béatrice de Builly Heiress of Tickhill, Yorkshire was educated; Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/4:693.
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 5:154.
3. The Chartulary of St.John of Pontefract Thew Yorkshire Arch. Society, Record Series Vol XXX II:608-9, Holmes, Richard (editor).2
GAV-26 EDV-26 GKJ-27. 2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 5:154.
3. The Chartulary of St.John of Pontefract Thew Yorkshire Arch. Society, Record Series Vol XXX II:608-9, Holmes, Richard (editor).2
; Per Weis: “...sis. & event. h. in her issue of Roger de Buily, lord of Tickhill, co., York.”.8
Family | Guillaume II (?) Cte d'Eu, Lord of Hastings b. c 1050, d. 2 Jan 1096 |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’Eu, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Eu.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Béatrice de Builly: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00421112&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#GuillaumeIIEudied1096. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Roger de Builly: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00430166&tree=LEO
- [S4743] Geneagraphie - Families all over the world (Website), online <http://geneagraphie.com/>, Beatrice de Bouilly: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I42089&tree=1. Hereinafter cited as Geneagraphie.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Muriel: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00430167&tree=LEO
- [S4743] Geneagraphie, online http://geneagraphie.com/, Muriel Chappell: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I568313&tree=1
- [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 139-25, p. 133. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199038&tree=LEO
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 77, d'EU 3. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_II,_Count_of_Eu. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199040&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#HenriIEu
John I (?) Count d'Eu, Lord Hastings1,2,3
M, #12510, b. circa 1130, d. 26 June 1170
Father | Henri I d'Eu Comte d'Eu, Lord Hastings4,5,6,7 b. c 1080, d. 12 Jul 1140 |
Mother | Marguerite de Sully4,8,6 d. c 15 Dec 1145 |
Reference | GAV24 EDV24 |
Last Edited | 9 Oct 2020 |
John I (?) Count d'Eu, Lord Hastings was born circa 1130.3 He married Alice (Adelise, Alix, Adélaïde Helissende) d'Aubigny dame de Smergate, daughter of William d'Aubigny 1st Earl of Arundel, Earl of Lincoln and Adelicia (Adeliza) (?) de Louvain, of Brabant, in 1160.9,10,3
John I (?) Count d'Eu, Lord Hastings died on 26 June 1170.9
John I (?) Count d'Eu, Lord Hastings died on 26 June 1170.3
He was Count d'Eu.9 GAV-24 EDV-24 GKJ-25.
; Per Boyer:
"JOHN, Count d'Eu and Lord of Hastings, died 26 June 1170.
"He married ALICE D' AUBIGNY*, who died 1 l' Sept. 1188, having remarried Alvred de St. Martin, the King's dapifer, founder of Robe1tsbridge Abbey, who was living 30 Nov. 1189.
"King Stephen gave him custody of the castle of Tickhill. However, he was taken p1isoner at the battle of Lincoln on 2 Feb. 1140/1, and the castle was not returned to him when his other lands were restored. He attended the Council of Clarendon in Jan. 1163/4.
"He became a monk at Foucannont, where he was bmied.
"Children, listed by Watson [CP, 5:158e]:
John I (?) Count d'Eu, Lord Hastings died on 26 June 1170.9
John I (?) Count d'Eu, Lord Hastings died on 26 June 1170.3
He was Count d'Eu.9 GAV-24 EDV-24 GKJ-25.
; Per Boyer:
"JOHN, Count d'Eu and Lord of Hastings, died 26 June 1170.
"He married ALICE D' AUBIGNY*, who died 1 l' Sept. 1188, having remarried Alvred de St. Martin, the King's dapifer, founder of Robe1tsbridge Abbey, who was living 30 Nov. 1189.
"King Stephen gave him custody of the castle of Tickhill. However, he was taken p1isoner at the battle of Lincoln on 2 Feb. 1140/1, and the castle was not returned to him when his other lands were restored. He attended the Council of Clarendon in Jan. 1163/4.
"He became a monk at Foucannont, where he was bmied.
"Children, listed by Watson [CP, 5:158e]:
i. Henry, d. 11 March 1183; m. Maud de Warenne, who d. c. 1212.
ii. Henry, second son, churchman, bur. Foucannont.
iii. John, churchman, but. Foucarmont.
iv. Robert, mentioned in grant by Henry the Count to Robertsbridge Abbey."11
He was Lord Hastings in 1140.9,3ii. Henry, second son, churchman, bur. Foucannont.
iii. John, churchman, but. Foucarmont.
iv. Robert, mentioned in grant by Henry the Count to Robertsbridge Abbey."11
Family | Alice (Adelise, Alix, Adélaïde Helissende) d'Aubigny dame de Smergate b. bt 1140 - 1141, d. 11 Sep 1188 |
Children |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 8. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 77, d'EU 5.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Brabant.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 77, d'EU 4.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199040&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#HenriIEu. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 139-26, p. 133. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Sully: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199041&tree=LEO
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 139-26, p. 122. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
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