Arnoul III de Crequy1

M, #23611
FatherArnoul II de Crequy2 d. 937
MotherValpurge d'Argouins3
ReferenceGAV31 EDV31
Last Edited14 Feb 2003
     Arnoul III de Crequy married Adele d'Arkel.4
     GAV-31 EDV-31.

Family

Adele d'Arkel
Child

Adele d'Arkel1

F, #23612
ReferenceGAV31 EDV31
Last Edited13 Feb 2003
     Adele d'Arkel married Arnoul III de Crequy, son of Arnoul II de Crequy and Valpurge d'Argouins.1
     GAV-31 EDV-31.

Arnoul II de Crequy1

M, #23613, d. 937
FatherOdooere de Crequy2
MotherYolande (?) of Cleves3
ReferenceGAV32 EDV32
Last Edited14 Feb 2003
     Arnoul II de Crequy married Valpurge d'Argouins.4,1
Arnoul II de Crequy died in 937.1
     GAV-32 EDV-32.

Valpurge d'Argouins1

F, #23614
ReferenceGAV32 EDV32
Last Edited13 Feb 2003
     Valpurge d'Argouins married Arnoul II de Crequy, son of Odooere de Crequy and Yolande (?) of Cleves.1,2
     GAV-32 EDV-32.

Odooere de Crequy1

M, #23615
FatherArnoul I de Crequy le Vieil2 d. 897
MotherIgnode de Harlebec3
ReferenceGAV33 EDV33
Last Edited14 Feb 2003
     Odooere de Crequy married Yolande (?) of Cleves, daughter of Baldwin (?) Count of Cleves and Maud (?).1
     GAV-33 EDV-33.

Arnoul I de Crequy le Vieil1

M, #23617, d. 897
ReferenceGAV34 EDV34
Last Edited14 Feb 2003
     Arnoul I de Crequy le Vieil married Ignode de Harlebec, daughter of Godfrey de Boullion Count of Harlebec.2
Arnoul I de Crequy le Vieil died in 897.1
     GAV-34 EDV-34.

Ignode de Harlebec1

F, #23618
FatherGodfrey de Boullion Count of Harlebec2 d. 862
ReferenceGAV34 EDV34
Last Edited14 Feb 2003
     Ignode de Harlebec married Arnoul I de Crequy le Vieil.1
     GAV-34 EDV-34.

Godfrey de Boullion Count of Harlebec1

M, #23619, d. 862
FatherEnguerrand/Ingelram/Roland (?) Governor of Flanders2 b. c 775, d. 825
ReferenceGAV35 EDV25
Last Edited13 Feb 2003
     Godfrey de Boullion Count of Harlebec died in 862.1
     GAV-35 EDV-35.

Family

Child

Enguerrand/Ingelram/Roland (?) Governor of Flanders1,2

M, #23620, b. circa 775, d. 825
FatherCharles "the Younger" (?) King of the Franks1 b. 772, d. 4 Dec 811
MotherJuliana (?)1
ReferenceGAV33
Last Edited5 Jun 2011
     Enguerrand/Ingelram/Roland (?) Governor of Flanders was born circa 775.
Enguerrand/Ingelram/Roland (?) Governor of Flanders died in 825.2
     GAV-33. He was 2nd Count of Flanders.2 Enguerrand/Ingelram/Roland (?) Governor of Flanders was also known as Enguerrand (?) Count.

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I888

Alice d'Oisy1

F, #23621
ReferenceGAV30 EDV30
Last Edited13 Feb 2003
     Alice d'Oisy married Ramelin II de Crequy, son of Arnoul III de Crequy and Adele d'Arkel.1
     GAV-30 EDV-30.

Family

Ramelin II de Crequy d. c 986
Child

Mary Campbell1

F, #23622
FatherColin Campbell 1st Earl of Argyll, 2nd Lord Campbell2 d. 19 May 1493
MotherIsobel (or Elizabeth) Stewart2 d. 26 Oct 1510
Last Edited28 Nov 2002

Family

Angus (?)

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Argyll Family Page - see MACLEAN, Bt, of Dowart. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Argyll Family Page.

Baldwin (?) Count of Cleves1

M, #23623, d. 917
FatherLuitgarde (?) Count of Cleves2 d. 881
MotherBertha (?)3
ReferenceGAV34 EDV34
Last Edited4 May 2003
     Baldwin (?) Count of Cleves married Maud (?)4,1
Baldwin (?) Count of Cleves died in 917.1
     GAV-34 EDV-34 GKJ-35.

Maud (?)1

F, #23624
ReferenceGAV34 EDV34
Last Edited13 Feb 2003
     Maud (?) married Baldwin (?) Count of Cleves, son of Luitgarde (?) Count of Cleves and Bertha (?).1,2
     GAV-34 EDV-34.

Luitgarde (?) Count of Cleves1

M, #23625, d. 881
FatherEberhard (?) Count of Cleves2 d. 835
MotherBertha (?)3
ReferenceGAV35 EDV35
Last Edited13 Feb 2003
     Luitgarde (?) Count of Cleves married Bertha (?)4,1
Luitgarde (?) Count of Cleves died in 881.1
     GAV-35 EDV-35.

Bertha (?)1

F, #23626
ReferenceGAV35 EDV35
Last Edited4 May 2003
     Bertha (?) married Luitgarde (?) Count of Cleves, son of Eberhard (?) Count of Cleves and Bertha (?).1,2
     GAV-35 EDV-35 GKJ-36.

Eberhard (?) Count of Cleves1

M, #23627, d. 835
FatherBaldwin (?) Count of Cleves2 d. 830
ReferenceGAV36 EDV36
Last Edited12 Feb 2003
     Eberhard (?) Count of Cleves married Bertha (?)3,1
Eberhard (?) Count of Cleves died in 835.1
     GAV-36 EDV-36.

Bertha (?)1

F, #23628
ReferenceGAV36 EDV36
Last Edited4 May 2003
     Bertha (?) married Eberhard (?) Count of Cleves, son of Baldwin (?) Count of Cleves.1,2
     GAV-36 EDV-36 GKJ-37.

Baldwin (?) Count of Cleves1

M, #23629, d. 830
ReferenceGAV37 EDV37
Last Edited4 May 2003
     Baldwin (?) Count of Cleves died in 830.1
     GAV-37 EDV-37 GKJ-38.

Family

Child

Pepin "the Hunchback" (?)1,2

M, #23630, b. before 770, d. 811
FatherCharlemagne (?) King of the Franks and Emperor of the West1,2 b. 2 Apr 747, d. 28 Jan 814
MotherHimiltrude (?)1,2 b. c 742, d. c 780
Last Edited12 Nov 2003
     Pepin "the Hunchback" (?) was born before 770.1
Pepin "the Hunchback" (?) died in 811.1,2
     Pepin "the Hunchback" (?)
Leo van de Pas cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 63.1 Pepin "the Hunchback" (?) was also known as Pippin "der Bucklige" (?)1 Pepin "the Hunchback" (?) was also known as Pipin "le Bossu" (?)2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Pippin "der Bucklige": http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020003&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html

Bertha/Bertrada (?)1,2,3,4,5

F, #23631, b. circa 779, d. after 14 January 823
FatherCharlemagne (?) King of the Franks and Emperor of the West3,6,7,5 b. 2 Apr 747, d. 28 Jan 814
MotherHildegardis (?) of Swabia, Countess of Vinzgau3,8,6,7,5 b. bt 2 May 757 - 30 Apr 761, d. 30 Apr 783
ReferenceGAV30
Last Edited29 May 2020
     Bertha/Bertrada (?) was born circa 779.3,7,6,5 She married Angilbert "the Saint" (?) Governor of Ponthieu, Abbe of St. Richaire, son of Nithard (?) gouverneur de Ponthieu and Richarde (?), in 795; Genealogy.EU (Carolin 1 page) says m. 787.3,9,7,6,10
Bertha/Bertrada (?) died after 14 January 823; Genealogy.EU (Carolin 1 page) says d. 11 March 826; Med Lands says d. 11 Mar 824 or after.3,6,7,5
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference 70.7
GAV-30.

Bertha/Bertrada (?)
This is the same person as Bertha, daughter of Charlemagne at Wikipedia and as Berthe (fille de Charlemagne) at Wikipédia (Fr.)11,12

Bertha/Bertrada (?) and Angilbert "the Saint" (?) Governor of Ponthieu, Abbe of St. Richaire
Per Med Lands:
     "BERTRADA [Berta] ([779/80]-11 Mar, 824 or after). "Hruodrudem et Bertham et Gislam" are named daughters of King Charles & Hildegard by Einhard[137]. Angilbert's poem Ad Pippinum Italiæ regum names (in order) "Chrodthrudis…Berta…Gisla et Theodrada" as daughters of King Charles[138]. Theodulf's poem Ad Carolum Rege changes the order slightly when he names "Berta…Chrodtrudh …Gisla…Rothaidh…Hiltrudh, Tetdrada" as daughters of the king[139]. The Chronicon Fontanellense records that Charles I King of the Franks proposed a marriage between “Offæ Rege Anglorum sive Merciorum…filiam” and “Carolus iunior”, but that King Offa refused unless “Berta filia Caroli Magni” was also married to his son which was unacceptable to the Frankish king[140]. Her father kept her and her sisters at the court of Aix-la-Chapelle refusing them permission to marry, but she was banished from court by her brother Emperor Louis I on his accession[141]. The Vita Angilberti records the relationship between "Berta filia [rex de regina Hildigarda]" and "domnus Angilbertus"[142]. The Chronicon Centulensis records that “Angilbertus” married “regis filiam Bertam” and that they had “duos filios Harnidum et Nithardum”[143]. Nithard names Bertha, daughter of King Charles, as his mother[144]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "V Id Mar" of "Berta filia Karoli imperatoris qui dedit superiorem Curtem"[145].
     "Mistress: (from [795]) of ANGILBERT "the Saint", son of [NITHARD & his wife Richarda] ([750]-18 Feb 814, bur Saint-Riquier, église du Saint-Sauveur et de Saint-Richard)."
Med Lands cites:
[137] Einhardi Vita Karoli Imperator 18, MGH SS II, p. 453.
[138] Angilberti (Homeri) Carmina, I, MGH Poetæ Latini ævi Carolini I, pp. 359-60.
[139] Theodulfi Carmina, XXV Ad Carolum Rege, MGH Poetæ Latini ævi Carolini I, p. 486.
[140] Chronicon Fontanellense XVI, Spicilegium II, p. 278.
[141] Settipani (1993), pp. 204 and 205.
[142] Anschero, Vita Angilberti 2, MGH SS XV.I, p. 180.
[143] Ex Chronico Centulensi sive Sancti Richarii, RHGF V, p. 371.
[144] Nithard IV.5, p. 172.
[145] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Saint-Denis, p. 310.5
Bertha/Bertrada (?) and Angilbert "the Saint" (?) Governor of Ponthieu, Abbe of St. Richaire were Per Genealogy.EU: "A6. [3m.] Bertha, *779/780, +11.3.826; m.787 Augilbert "the Saint" of Ponthieu (*ca 750, +18.2.814.)13"

Bertha/Bertrada (?) and Angilbert "the Saint" (?) Governor of Ponthieu, Abbe of St. Richaire
Per Racines et Histoire: "Angilbert Le Saint + 18/02/814 comte de Ponthieu à Abbeville, duc de Francie Maritime, Gouverneur de Ponthieu, Abbé laïc de Centule (Saint-Riquier)
ép. Berthe (fille de Charlemagne, Roi des Francs, Empereur d’Occident, et d’Hildegarde.)14"

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Charlemagne: http://www.genealogics.org/getextras.php?personID=I00000001&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertha: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020032&tree=LEO
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertha: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020032&tree=LEO&PHPSESSID=ddc2127542108d09cf9a72ee0b0e19fd
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#Bertradadied823. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille & Seigneurs de BOUBERS (1), p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boubers1.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertha: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020032&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hildegardis: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020006&tree=LEO
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Angilbert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020033&tree=LEO
  10. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Angilbertdied814
  11. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertha,_daughter_of_Charlemagne. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  12. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Berthe (fille de Charlemagne): https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berthe_(fille_de_Charlemagne). Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (Fr.).
  13. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  14. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Ponthieu, & Montreuil, Saint-Pol, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Ponthieu.pdf
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Nithard: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020034&tree=LEO
  16. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hartnid: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020035&tree=LEO

Angus (?)1

M, #23632
FatherJohn MacDonald Lord of the Isles, 11th (last) Earl of Ross1
Last Edited28 Nov 2002

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Argyll Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Angilbert "the Saint" (?) Governor of Ponthieu, Abbe of St. Richaire1,2,3

M, #23633, b. circa 750, d. 18 February 814
FatherNithard (?) gouverneur de Ponthieu5,6,4
MotherRicharde (?)3,4
ReferenceGAV30
Last Edited29 May 2020
     Angilbert "the Saint" (?) Governor of Ponthieu, Abbe of St. Richaire was born circa 750.2,1,4 He married Bertha/Bertrada (?), daughter of Charlemagne (?) King of the Franks and Emperor of the West and Hildegardis (?) of Swabia, Countess of Vinzgau, in 795; Genealogy.EU (Carolin 1 page) says m. 787.1,7,8,5,4
Angilbert "the Saint" (?) Governor of Ponthieu, Abbe of St. Richaire died on 18 February 814 at Abbeville, Departement de la Somme, Picardie, France (now).2,1,3,4,9
Angilbert "the Saint" (?) Governor of Ponthieu, Abbe of St. Richaire was buried after 18 February 814 at Saint Riquier Abbatiale, Saint Riquier, Departement de la Somme, Picardie, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     unknownm France
     DEATH     unknown, Abbeville, Departement de la Somme, Picardie, France
     Saint Angilbert (died 18 February 814) was a Frank who served Charlemagne as a diplomat, abbot, poet and semi-son-in-law. He was of noble Frankish parentage, and educated at the palace school in Aquae Grani (Aachen) under Alcuin. He is venerated as a saint, on the day of his death—18 February. When Charlemagne sent his young son Pepin to Italy as King of the Lombards Angilbert went along as primicerius palatii, a high administrator of the satellite court. As the friend and adviser of Pepin, he assisted for a while in the government of Italy. Angilbert delivered the document on Iconoclasm from the Frankish Synod of Frankfurt to Pope Adrian I, and was later sent on three important embassies to the pope, in 792, 794 and 796.
     In 790 he was named abbot of Centulum, also called Sancti Richarii monasterium (Saint-Riquier) in northern France, where his brilliant rule gained for him later the renown of a saint. It was not uncommon for the Merovingian, Carolingian, or later kings to make laymen abbots of monasteries; the layman would often use the income of the monastery as his own and leave the monks a bare minimum for the necessary expenses of the foundation. Angilbert, in contrast, spent a great deal rebuilding Saint-Riquier, and when he completed it Charlemagne spent Easter of the year 800 there. Angilbert's non-sacramental relationship with Bertha was evidently recognized by the court - if she had not been the daughter of the King historians might refer to her as his concubine. They had at least two sons, one of whom, Nithard, became a notable figure in the mid-9th century. Control of marriage and the meanings of legitimacy were hotly contested in the Middle Ages. Bertha and Angilbert are an example of how resistance to the idea of a sacramental marriage could coincide with holding church offices.
     His poems reveal the culture and tastes of a man of the world, enjoying the closest intimacy with the imperial family. He accompanied Charlemagne to Rome in 800 and was one of the witnesses to his will in 814. Angilbert was the Homer of the emperor's literary circle, and was the probable author of an epic, of which the fragment which has been preserved describes the life at the palace and the meeting between Charlemagne and Leo III. Angilbert's poems have been published by E. Dummler in the Monumenta Germaniae Historica.
     Family Members
     Children
          Nithard de Ponthieu
     BURIAL     Saint Riquier Abbatiale, Saint-Riquier, Departement de la Somme, Picardie, France
     Created by: Kat
     Added: 29 Nov 2012
     Find a Grave Memorial 101486783.9
     Angilbert "the Saint" (?) Governor of Ponthieu, Abbe of St. Richaire and Bertha/Bertrada (?)
Per Med Lands:
     "BERTRADA [Berta] ([779/80]-11 Mar, 824 or after). "Hruodrudem et Bertham et Gislam" are named daughters of King Charles & Hildegard by Einhard[137]. Angilbert's poem Ad Pippinum Italiæ regum names (in order) "Chrodthrudis…Berta…Gisla et Theodrada" as daughters of King Charles[138]. Theodulf's poem Ad Carolum Rege changes the order slightly when he names "Berta…Chrodtrudh …Gisla…Rothaidh…Hiltrudh, Tetdrada" as daughters of the king[139]. The Chronicon Fontanellense records that Charles I King of the Franks proposed a marriage between “Offæ Rege Anglorum sive Merciorum…filiam” and “Carolus iunior”, but that King Offa refused unless “Berta filia Caroli Magni” was also married to his son which was unacceptable to the Frankish king[140]. Her father kept her and her sisters at the court of Aix-la-Chapelle refusing them permission to marry, but she was banished from court by her brother Emperor Louis I on his accession[141]. The Vita Angilberti records the relationship between "Berta filia [rex de regina Hildigarda]" and "domnus Angilbertus"[142]. The Chronicon Centulensis records that “Angilbertus” married “regis filiam Bertam” and that they had “duos filios Harnidum et Nithardum”[143]. Nithard names Bertha, daughter of King Charles, as his mother[144]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "V Id Mar" of "Berta filia Karoli imperatoris qui dedit superiorem Curtem"[145].
     "Mistress: (from [795]) of ANGILBERT "the Saint", son of [NITHARD & his wife Richarda] ([750]-18 Feb 814, bur Saint-Riquier, église du Saint-Sauveur et de Saint-Richard)."
Med Lands cites:
[137] Einhardi Vita Karoli Imperator 18, MGH SS II, p. 453.
[138] Angilberti (Homeri) Carmina, I, MGH Poetæ Latini ævi Carolini I, pp. 359-60.
[139] Theodulfi Carmina, XXV Ad Carolum Rege, MGH Poetæ Latini ævi Carolini I, p. 486.
[140] Chronicon Fontanellense XVI, Spicilegium II, p. 278.
[141] Settipani (1993), pp. 204 and 205.
[142] Anschero, Vita Angilberti 2, MGH SS XV.I, p. 180.
[143] Ex Chronico Centulensi sive Sancti Richarii, RHGF V, p. 371.
[144] Nithard IV.5, p. 172.
[145] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Saint-Denis, p. 310.10
Angilbert "the Saint" (?) Governor of Ponthieu, Abbe of St. Richaire and Bertha/Bertrada (?) were Per Genealogy.EU: "A6. [3m.] Bertha, *779/780, +11.3.826; m.787 Augilbert "the Saint" of Ponthieu (*ca 750, +18.2.814.)11" GAV-30.

Angilbert "the Saint" (?) Governor of Ponthieu, Abbe of St. Richaire
Per Med Lands:
     "[ANGILBERT "the Saint" ([750]-18 Feb 814, bur Saint-Riquier, église du Saint-Sauveur et de Saint-Richard). Nithard records that his father Angilbert "was a descendant of a family not unknown in those days, Madhelgaud, Richard and he came from the same stock"[507]. No proof has been found that Angilbert was the son of Nithard but there must have been a close relationship between the two in view of Angilbert giving his older son the same name. Leader of the council of Pepin King of Italy 780-790. He was called the "Homer of the court"[508]. He became a monk at the abbey of Saint-Riquier 790, elected Abbé 794. The Chronicon Centulensis records that “Angilbertus” was granted “totius maritimæ terræ Ducatus”, in addition to “Palatini honoris”, and that he visited “Pontivum” after accepting the dukedom[509]. The Chronicon Centulensis records the death of “Angilbertus” in the same year as Emperor Charlemagne[510].
     "Mistress (1): (from [795]) BERTRADA [Berta], daughter of CHARLES I King of the Franks & his second wife Hildegard ([779/80]-11 Mar, 824 or after). "Hruodrudem et Bertham et Gislam" are named daughters of King Charles and Hildegard by Einhard[511]. Angilbert's poem Ad Pippinum Italiæ regum names (in order) "Chrodthrudis…Berta…Gisla et Theodrada" as daughters of King Charles[512]. Theodulf's poem Ad Carolum Rege changes the order slightly when he names "Berta…Chrodtrudh …Gisla…Rothaidh…Hiltrudh, Tetdrada" as daughters of the king[513]. She may have been the daughter whose hand in marriage Offa King of Mercia requested for his son Ecgfrith as a condition for agreeing to her father's proposal that her older brother Charles should marry one of Offa's daughters[514]. Her father kept her and her sisters at the court of Aix-la-Chapelle refusing them permission to marry, but she was banished from court by her brother Emperor Louis I on his accession[515]. The Vita Angilberti records the relationship between "Berta filia [rex de regina Hildigarda]" and "domnus Angilbertus"[516]. The Chronicon Centulensis records that “Angilbertus” married “regis filiam Bertam” and that they had “duos filios Harnidum et Nithardum”[517]. Nithard names Bertha, daughter of King Charles, as his mother[518]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "V Id Mar" of "Berta filia Karoli imperatoris qui dedit superiorem Curtem"[519].]"
Med Lands cites:
[507] Nithard IV.5, p. 172.
[508] Letter of [796] from Charles I King of the Franks to Angilbert, cited in Settipani (1993), p. 206 footnote 103.
[509] Ex Chronico Centulensi sive Sancti Richarii, RHGF V, p. 371.
[510] Ex Chronico Centulensi sive Sancti Richarii, RHGF V, p. 372.
[511] Einhard 18, p. 453.
[512] Angilberti (Homeri) Carmina, I, MGH Poetæ Latini ævi Carolini I, pp. 359-60.
[513] Theodulfi Carmina, XXV Ad Carolum Rege, MGH Poetæ Latini ævi Carolini I, p. 486.
[514] Stenton, F. M. (2001) Anglo-Saxon England 3rd edn (Oxford University Press), p. 220.
[515] Settipani (1993), pp. 204 and 205.
[516] Anschero, Vita Angilberti 2, MGH SS XV.I, p. 180.
[517] Ex Chronico Centulensi sive Sancti Richarii, RHGF V, p. 371.
[518] Nithard IV.5, p. 172.
[519] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Saint-Denis, p. 310.4


Angilbert "the Saint" (?) Governor of Ponthieu, Abbe of St. Richaire
This is the same person as Angilbert at Wikipedia and as Angilbert at Wikipédia (Fr.)12,13

Reference: Genealogics cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference 70.7
He was conseiller du roi d’Italie Pépin 1er.3

Angilbert "the Saint" (?) Governor of Ponthieu, Abbe of St. Richaire and Bertha/Bertrada (?)
Per Racines et Histoire: "Angilbert Le Saint + 18/02/814 comte de Ponthieu à Abbeville, duc de Francie Maritime, Gouverneur de Ponthieu, Abbé laïc de Centule (Saint-Riquier)
ép. Berthe (fille de Charlemagne, Roi des Francs, Empereur d’Occident, et d’Hildegarde.)14"

Family

Bertha/Bertrada (?) b. c 779, d. a 14 Jan 823
Children

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Angilbert: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020033&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boubers1.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Angilbertdied814. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille & Seigneurs de BOUBERS (1), p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boubers1.pdf
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#NithardMRicharda
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Angilbert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020033&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertha: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020032&tree=LEO
  9. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 29 May 2020), memorial page for Saint Angilbert of Centula (unknown–unknown), Find a Grave Memorial no. 101486783, citing Saint Riquier Abbatiale, Saint-Riquier, Departement de la Somme, Picardie, France ; Maintained by Kat (contributor 47496397), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/101486783/saint_angilbert-of_centula. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  10. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#Bertradadied823
  11. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  12. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angilbert. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  13. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angilbert. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (Fr.).
  14. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Ponthieu, & Montreuil, Saint-Pol, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Ponthieu.pdf
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Nithard: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020034&tree=LEO
  16. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  17. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hartnid: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020035&tree=LEO

Nithard "the Chronicler" (?) Governor of Ponthieu1,2,3,4

M, #23634, b. circa 796, d. 18 May 845
FatherAngilbert "the Saint" (?) Governor of Ponthieu, Abbe of St. Richaire3,5,6,7,8,9 b. c 750, d. 18 Feb 814
MotherBertha/Bertrada (?)2,3,6,10,9 b. c 779, d. a 14 Jan 823
Last Edited29 May 2020
     Nithard "the Chronicler" (?) Governor of Ponthieu was born circa 796; Genealogy.EU (Carolin 1 page) says b. ca 800.3,2,4
Nithard "the Chronicler" (?) Governor of Ponthieu died on 18 May 845; died in battle; Rainces et Histoire says d. 15/5/845.2,3,4
     Nithard "the Chronicler" (?) Governor of Ponthieu
Nithard "The Chronicler", *ca 800, +15.5.845, he was ancestor of Counts de Ponthieu.2 He was abbé laïc de Saint-Riquier.4

Nithard "the Chronicler" (?) Governor of Ponthieu
Leo van de Pas cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference 70.3

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Angilbert: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020033&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Nithard: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020034&tree=LEO
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boubers1.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille & Seigneurs de BOUBERS (1), p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boubers1.pdf
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Angilbert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020033&tree=LEO
  8. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Angilbertdied814. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  9. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Ponthieu, & Montreuil, Saint-Pol, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Ponthieu.pdf
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertha: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020032&tree=LEO

Helgaud I (?) comte de Ponthieu1

M, #23635, b. circa 805, d. 863
FatherOswin (?)1
ReferenceGAV29
Last Edited4 Sep 2017
     Helgaud I (?) comte de Ponthieu was born circa 805.1 He married Berthe de Ponthieu, daughter of Angilbert "the Saint" (?) Governor of Ponthieu, Abbe of St. Richaire and Bertha/Bertrada (?), in 826.1
Helgaud I (?) comte de Ponthieu died in 863.1
     He was abbé de St-Riquier.1 GAV-29.

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boubers1.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Herloin/Hilduin I (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil1

M, #23636, b. circa 830, d. circa 878
FatherHelgaud I (?) comte de Ponthieu1 b. c 805, d. 863
MotherBerthe de Ponthieu1 b. c 805, d. b 859
ReferenceGAV28
Last Edited26 Aug 2009
     Herloin/Hilduin I (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil married Hélissende de Ramerupt comtesse d’Arcis-sur-Aube.1 Herloin/Hilduin I (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil was born circa 830.1
Herloin/Hilduin I (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil died circa 878.1
     GAV-28.

Helgaud II (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil1

M, #23637, b. circa 860, d. between 925 and 926
FatherHerloin/Hilduin I (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil1 b. c 830, d. c 878
MotherHélissende de Ramerupt comtesse d’Arcis-sur-Aube1
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited26 Aug 2009
     Helgaud II (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil was born circa 860.1
Helgaud II (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil died between 925 and 926.2
Helgaud II (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil died in 926; fighting against the Normans.1
     GAV-27.

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boubers1.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I2858

Herloin/Herluin II (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil1,2

M, #23638, b. circa 890, d. 946
FatherHelgaud II (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil3 b. c 860, d. bt 925 - 926
ReferenceGAV32
Last Edited4 Sep 2017
     Herloin/Herluin II (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil married (?) de Dammartin.2 Herloin/Herluin II (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil was born circa 890.2
Herloin/Herluin II (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil died in 946; killed by the Danes.2
     GAV-32.

Family 2

Child

Rotgaire/Roger (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil1

M, #23639, d. 957
FatherHerloin/Herluin II (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil2 b. c 890, d. 946
Mother(?) de Dammartin1
Last Edited25 May 2009
     Rotgaire/Roger (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil died in 957.3

Guillaume I (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil1,2

M, #23640, b. circa 915, d. circa 980
FatherHerloin/Herluin II (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil3,2 b. c 890, d. 946
ReferenceGAV31
Last Edited26 Aug 2009
     Guillaume I (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil was born circa 915.2
Guillaume I (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil died circa 980.2
     GAV-31.

Family

Child