Judith von Öhningen1

F, #18811, b. circa 950, d. after 1032
FatherKonrad/Cuno (?) Herzog von Schwaben, Graf von Oenningen3,4 b. 920
MotherRichlind/Reginlint (?) von Schwaben2 b. 950, d. 999
ReferenceGAV28
Last Edited1 Jul 2020
     Judith von Öhningen was born circa 950.5 She married Adalbert II (?) Graf von Metz, Graf in Saargau, son of Gerhard (?) Graf von Metz, before 979.6,7,8,9
Judith von Öhningen was buried after 1032 at Abbaye de Sainte-Croix de Bouzonville, Bouzonville, Departement de la Moselle, Lorraine, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     unknown, Öhningen, Landkreis Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
     DEATH     1032, Departement du Loiret, Centre, France
     b. 968
     Parents:
          Siegfried of Luxembourg (15 Aug 922-998)
          Hedwig of Nordgau (937-994)
     Family Members
     Parents
          Sigfried (Siegfried) von Luxemburg 922–998
          Hedwig d'Alsace-Nordgau Luxemburg 937–994
     Spouse
          Adalbert von Metz unknown–1037
     Siblings
          Luitgarda of Luxemburg 955–1005
     Children
          Gerard De Bouzonville unknown–1047
     BURIAL     Abbaye de Sainte-Croix de Bouzonville, Bouzonville, Departement de la Moselle, Lorraine, France
     Created by: Angie Swann
     Added: 6 Apr 2015
     Find a Grave Memorial 144665987.10
Judith von Öhningen died after 1032.6
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "As explained below, the following person was probably related to the family of Siegfried but the exact relationship cannot be ascertained.
     "JUDITH (-27 Jul [1037/38], bur Bourzonville/Busendorf). The Notitiæ Fundationis Monasterii Bosonis-Villæ names "Adalbertus comes marchio et uxor sua Iuditha" as parents of Gerhard, noting that they were both buried in the monastery and in a later passage noting their joint donation dated "1033 pridie Kal Feb"[80]. "Iuta marchionissa Litoringie" donated property "villam nostram Mamendorf" to the abbey of St Matthew by charter dated 1030[81]. "Adelbertus dux et marchio Lotoringie et Iuditta uxor mea ducissa et marchionissa" donated property "villam nostram Mamendorf" to the abbey of St Matthew by charter dated 12 Jun 1037[82]. The testament dated 1037 of "Adalbero…prepositus S Paulini Treuerensis" is witnessed by "Adelberti avunculi nostri marchionis et ducis Lothoringie et Iuditte amicte nostre uxoris sue"[83]. It is not clear from the document whether it was Judith or her husband who was the blood relation of Adalbero. "Avunculus" suggests that Adalbert was Adalbero's maternal uncle. This cannot be correct as Adalbert's brother Gerhard is recorded as having married Siegfried's daughter Eva, who would in that case have been his niece. It appears more likely, therefore, that the relationship was with Judith. "Amita" suggests that Judith was Adalbero´s paternal aunt. However, Siegfried´s birth is estimated to [930/40]. The precise relationship between Judith and Siegfried cannot be ascertained.
     "m ADALBERT Graf von Metz, son of [RICHARD Graf von Metz or GERARD Graf von Metz] & his wife --- (-[1 Feb/30 Jun] 1037 or after, bur Bourzonville Monastery)."
Med Lands cites:
[81] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I, 303, p. 355.
[82] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I, 309, p. 363.
[83] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I, 308, III, p. 362.8


Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 6:129.9

; NB: There is disagreement about the identity of the Judith that Adalbert II married.
     Genealogics identifies as the dau. of a NN von Rheinfelden, Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.)
6:129
     Med Lands says she is related to the line of the Comtes de Luxembourg (Siegfried Comte de Luxembourg, c930/40-998):
"The testament dated 1037 of "Adalbero…prepositus S Paulini Treuerensis" is witnessed by "Adelberti avunculi nostri marchionis et ducis Lothoringie et Iuditte amicte nostre uxoris sue"[83]. It is not clear from the document whether it was Judith or her husband who was the blood relation of Adalbero. "Avunculus" suggests that Adalbert was Adalbero's maternal uncle. This cannot be correct as Adalbert's brother Gerhard is recorded as having married Siegfried's daughter Eva, who would in that case have been his niece. It appears more likely, therefore, that the relationship was with Judith. "Amita" suggests that Judith was Adalbero´s paternal aunt. However, Siegfried´s birth is estimated to [930/40]. The precise relationship between Judith and Siegfried cannot be ascertained."

Med Lands cites: [83] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I, 308, III, p. 362.11,8 GAV-28. Judith von Öhningen was also known as Judith von Luxembourg.10

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Judith von Oenningen: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120306&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Reginlint: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120360&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, duke Cuno: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120359&tree=LEO
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Wetterau Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/german/wetterau.html
  5. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I44243
  6. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 1 page (The House of Lorraine): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine1.html
  7. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(UPPER)%20NOBILITY.htm#Adalbertdied1033. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  8. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LUXEMBOURG.htm#JudithMAdalbertMetz
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Judith von Oenningen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120306&tree=LEO
  10. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 08 April 2020), memorial page for Judith Von Luxembourg (unknown–1032), Find a Grave Memorial no. 144665987, citing Abbaye de Sainte-Croix de Bouzonville, Bouzonville, Departement de la Moselle, Lorraine, France ; Maintained by Angie Swann (contributor 48313732). at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/144665987/judith-von_luxembourg. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adalbert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120305&tree=LEO
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerhard: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120307&tree=LEO

NN von Rheinfelden1,2

M, #18812, b. circa 942, d. after 980
ReferenceGAV29 EDV29
Last Edited6 May 2020
     NN von Rheinfelden was born circa 942.1
NN von Rheinfelden died after 980.1
     GAV-29 EDV-29 GKJ-30.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 1.1:9.2

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I10256
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN von Rheinfelden: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00331099&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I32136

Kuno (?) Count of Rheinfelden1,2

M, #18813, b. between 990 and 1000, d. 1026
FatherNN von Rheinfelden Graf von Rheinfelden3
MotherElisabeth (?)3 d. bt 1164 - 1180
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited6 May 2020
     Kuno (?) Count of Rheinfelden was born between 990 and 1000.4
Kuno (?) Count of Rheinfelden died in 1026.5
     GAV-27.

; Per Med Lands:
     "KUNO [von Rheinfelden] ([990/1000]-). According to Europäische Stammtafeln[447], he was the half-brother of Ita, wife of Graf Ratbod, ancestor of the Grafen von Habsburg. This is presumably based on a Habsburg genealogy which records that "Theodricus dux Lotharingorum et Chono comes de Rinfelden" were brothers and that "horum soror Ita comitissa de Habspurg" restored the monastery of Muri[448]. The identity of "Theodricus dux Lotharingorum" in this text is confused as the passage also records that he was father of "Gerhardum ducem", who in turn was father of "Gerhardum de Egisheim, patrem Uodelrici et Sthephani". These individuals and their supposed family relationships have not been identified with certainty[449]. No other document has been found which confirms a relationship between the Lotharingian dukes (see the document LOTHARINGIA, KINGS, DUKES & PFALZGRAFEN), the Grafen von Egisheim (see ALSACE), and the Rheinfelden family, although a possible connection with Egisheim is suggested by the 1125 charter quoted in the introduction to this section. Another document which records the foundation of Kloster Muri names “Itam sororem Theodrici ducis ac Wernharii Argentine civitatis episcopi”, as wife of “Radeboto”, and “Chono fratrem suum de matre, patrem autem Rudolfi regis”[450]. No source has been identified which names Kuno in his own capacity or indicates either the dates of his birth (considering the chronology of his daughter he was probably born in the 990s) or death.
     "m ---. The name of Kuno's wife is not known. As noted below, Armin Wolf suggests her relationship with the family of the Comtes de Genève. This speculation is based on his views on a passage in a continuation of the Annales of St. Gallen which, as noted below under this couple’s possible daughter, is subject to another interpretation which appears to be more likely."
Med Lands cites:
[447] ES XII 95A.
[448] Schaffhausen, Rheinau und Muri: Acta Murensia, I. p. 3.
[449] Hlawitschka ‘Rheinfelden’ (1991), p. 176.
[450] Schaffhausen, Rheinau und Muri: Acta Murensia, 2. p. 19.4


Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, Band I, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. Page 4.5 Kuno (?) Count of Rheinfelden was also known as Kuno (?) Graf von Rheinfelden.5

Family

Children

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I24883
  2. [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe (NY: Barnes & Noble Books, 2002), Table 90: Holy Roman Empire - General survey (until Frederick III). Hereinafter cited as Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/WURTTEMBERG.htm#UlrichRamspergdied1155. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SWABIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#dauKunoRheinfeldenMGeroldGeneve
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Kuno: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00303368&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgkgenev.htm#GeraudGenevadied1061
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SWABIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#RudolfRheinfeldendied1080

Heilwig von Dagsburg1,2

F, #18814, b. circa 972, d. 1046
FatherNN von Rheinfelden1 b. c 942, d. a 980
ReferenceGAV28
Last Edited25 Nov 2020
     Heilwig von Dagsburg was born circa 972.1 She married Hugh IV/VIII (?) Graf im Nordgau und zu Egisheim, son of Hugues III (?) Count of Lower Alsace & Egisheim and Berlinda (?) of Ortenberg, between 990 and 995.3,4
Heilwig von Dagsburg died in 1046.1
     GAV-28 EDV-28.

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I32136
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I32137
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#HugoVIEgisheimMHeilwigDagsburg. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#dauHugoVIDagsburgMOttoSwabiadied1047
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN von Egisheim: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165039&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelheid von Egisheim: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00627999&tree=LEO
  8. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I44364
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gertrud von Egisheim: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00426922&tree=LEO
  10. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#GertrudDagsburgdied1077
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hildegard von Egisheim: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00426924&tree=LEO
  12. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#MathildeMLouis
  13. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I44815

Hugh IV/VIII (?) Graf im Nordgau und zu Egisheim1,2

M, #18815, b. circa 970, d. 1048
FatherHugues III (?) Count of Lower Alsace & Egisheim1 b. c 928, d. 984
MotherBerlinda (?) of Ortenberg1
ReferenceGAV28
Last Edited25 Nov 2020
     Hugh IV/VIII (?) Graf im Nordgau und zu Egisheim was born circa 970.3 He married Heilwig von Dagsburg, daughter of NN von Rheinfelden, between 990 and 995.1,2
Hugh IV/VIII (?) Graf im Nordgau und zu Egisheim died in 1048.3
     ; Per Genealogics:
     "possibly one more child Gepa. Hugo was the son of Hugo V Raucus, Graf im Nordgau, and Luitgard or Hildegard von Metz. He was count of Egisheim, then count of Nordgau; he was also count of Dagsburg by right of his wife.
     "With his wife Heilwig von Dagsburg, daughter and heiress of Ludwig, Graf von Dagsburg, he had three sons, Gerhard, Hugo VII and Bruno, and four daughters. Hugo VII would have progeny, Gerhard married but is not recorded with progeny, and Bruno chose a Church career, rising to become Pope Leo IX. All four daughters are recorded with progeny.
     "In 1027 Hugo succeeded his nephew Eberhard VI as count of the Nordgau, after Eberhard's death without progeny. Also in that year Ernst, Herzog von Schwaben, revolted against Emperor Konrad II, and he ravaged and pillaged Hugo's castles in Alsace, before Ernst was captured and imprisoned.
     "Hugo founded the abbey of Hesse near Sarrebourg in Lorraine; his son Pope Leo IX confirmed its privileges in 1050. He also founded the abbey of Wolfenheim.
     "Hugo died in 1048, his wife in 1046."3 GAV-28 EDV-28.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 1.2 200B.3

; Per Med Lands:
     "HUGO [VIII], son of HUGO [VII] "Raucus" Graf im Nordgau & his wife --- ([970/75][241]-). The Notitiæ Altorfenses names "comitis Eberhardi sive comitis Hugonis vel istorum fratrum Gerhardi et Maffridi"[242]. His birth date range is estimated from the birth of his son Pope Leo in 1002. The Vita of Pope Leo IX names "patre Hugone [...natione Teutonicus, imperatoris Conradi consobrinus] matre...Heilewide [...Latina]" as the parents of the Pope[243]. Hugo´s precise family relationship with Emperor Konrad II has not been traced. Graf im Nordgau und zu Egisheim.
     "m HEILWIG von Dagsburg, daughter of LUDWIG Graf von Dagsburg & his wife --- (-1046). The Vita of Pope Leo IX names "patre Hugone [...natione Teutonicus, imperatoris Conradi consobrinus] matre...Heilewide [...Latina]" as the parents of the Pope[244]. Her parentage is confirmed by the Chronique of Jean de Bayon which names "Ludovico comite de Dagesburg, avo S. Leonis papæ noni" as founder of the monastery of Saint-Quirin[245].
     "Hugo [VIII] & his wife had [eight] children."
Med Lands cites:
[241] Birth date range estimated from the birth of his son Pope Leo in 1002.
[242] Notitiæ Altorfenses III, MGH SS XV.2, p. 994, footnote 11 specifying that all four were sons of Hugo, founder of the monastery.
[243] Du Chesne, A. (1631) Histoire généalogique de la maison royale de Dreux (Paris), Luxembourg, Preuves, p. 18.
[244] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Luxembourg, Preuves, p. 18.
[245] Viellard (1884), 36, p. 81.2
Hugh IV/VIII (?) Graf im Nordgau und zu Egisheim was also known as Hugo graf im Nordgau.4 Hugh IV/VIII (?) Graf im Nordgau und zu Egisheim was also known as Hugo VI Graf im Nordgau und zu Egisheim.3

Family

Heilwig von Dagsburg b. c 972, d. 1046
Children

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I32137
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#HugoVIEgisheimMHeilwigDagsburg. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugo VI: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00426919&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#dauHugoVIDagsburgMOttoSwabiadied1047
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN von Egisheim: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165039&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelheid von Egisheim: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00627999&tree=LEO
  8. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I44364
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gertrud von Egisheim: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00426922&tree=LEO
  10. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#GertrudDagsburgdied1077
  11. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 167-23, p. 158-9. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hildegard von Egisheim: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00426924&tree=LEO
  13. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#MathildeMLouis
  14. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I44815

Gertrud von Egisheim1,2,3

F, #18816, b. circa 988, d. 21 July 1077
FatherHugh IV/VIII (?) Graf im Nordgau und zu Egisheim1,4,2,3 b. c 970, d. 1048
MotherHeilwig von Dagsburg1,2,3 b. c 972, d. 1046
ReferenceGAV28
Last Edited7 Aug 2020
     Gertrud von Egisheim married Liudolf von Braunschweig Markgraf in Friesland, Graf im Derlingau, son of Bruno|Burin|Brun I (?) Graf von Braunschweig and Gisela von Schwaben Queen of Germany, Holy Roman empress, Queen of Burgundy.5,6,2 Gertrud von Egisheim was born circa 988.1
Gertrud von Egisheim died on 21 July 1077.1,2,3
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 1.2 200B; 3:131a.2 Unrecognized GEDCOM data: GAV-28.

; Per Med Lands:
     "[GERTRUD (-21 Jul 1077). The Annales Stadenses refers to the mother of "Ida [de Elsthorpe]" as "sororis Leonis papa qui et Bruno"[264]. The correctness of this parentage of the wife of Liudolf assumes (which appears likely to be correct as discussed in the document BRUNSWICK) that Ida von Elstorf was his daughter). The Libro Memoriarum Sancti Blasii records the death in Jul 1077 of "Ghertrudis marchionissa senior"[265].
     "m LIUDOLF Markgraf von Friesland, son of BRUNO [I] [von Braunschweig] & his wife Gisela of Swabia ([1003/05]-23 Apr 1038).] "
Med Lands cites:
[264] Annales Stadenses 1112, MGH SS XVI, p. 319.
[265] Libro Memoriarum Sancti Blasii, MGH SS XXIV, p. 825.3


; Per Med Lands:
     "LIUDOLF von Braunschweig ([1003/05]-23 Apr 1038). The Annalista Saxo names "Liudolfus comes Saxonicus, filius Brunonis de Bruneswic et Gisle inperatricis", when recording his death[16]. His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 1051 under which "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" donated "comitatum quem Brun eiusque filius noster frater Liutolfus nec non et eius filius Echbreht comites…in pagis Northduringen, Darlingen, Valen, Salthga, Grethe, Mulbeze" to the church of Hildesheim[17]. His birth date range is estimated assuming that he was "the young Count Liudolf" whom Thietmar notes was captured during a conflict with the Poles, dated to 1015[18], although it is not certain that this was the same person. Vajay[19] suggests a birth date range of [1006/08], which is more consistent with his mother's birth date but appears late for the 1015 capture. The Annalista Saxo records that "Liudolfus comes Saxonicus, filius Brunonis de Bruneswic et Gisle inperatricis" was killed "IX Kal Maii inmatura…cum maximo suorum conprovincialium merore"[20]. He was installed as Markgraf in Frisia by his stepfather Emperor Konrad II after 1 Jul 1028.
     "m GERTRUD [von Egisheim, daughter of HUGO [VIII] Graf im Nordgau und zu Egisheim & his wife Heilwig von Dagsburg] (-21 Jul 1077). The Annales Stadenses refers to the mother of "Ida [de Elsthorpe]" as "sororis Leonis papa qui et Bruno"[21]. The correctness of this parentage of the wife of Liudolf assumes (which appears likely to be correct as discussed below) that Ida von Elstorf was his daughter. The Libro Memoriarum Sancti Blasii records the death in Jul 1077 of "Ghertrudis marchionissa senior"[22]."
Med Lands cites:
[16] Annalista Saxo 1038.
[17] MGH Diplomata V, D H III 279, p. 380.
[18] Warner, D. A. (trans.) The Chronicon of Thietmar of Merseburg (2001) (Manchester University Press), 7.21, p. 320.
[19] Vajay 'Mathilde', p. 252.
[20] Annalista Saxo 1038.
[21] Annales Stadenses 1112, MGH SS XVI, p. 319.
[22] Libro Memoriarum Sancti Blasii, MGH SS XXIV, p. 825.6

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I44364
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gertrud von Egisheim: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00426922&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#GertrudDagsburgdied1077. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#HugoVIEgisheimMHeilwigDagsburg
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Liudolf von Braunschweig: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00426921&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRUNSWICK.htm#Liudolffied1038
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida von Elsdorf: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00571690&tree=LEO
  8. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRUNSWICK.htm#dauLiudolfMKonradHaldensleben
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ekbert I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00060578&tree=LEO
  10. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRUNSWICK.htm#EkbertIdied1068

Liudolf von Braunschweig Markgraf in Friesland, Graf im Derlingau1,2,3

M, #18817, b. circa 1003, d. 23 April 1038
FatherBruno|Burin|Brun I (?) Graf von Braunschweig4,5,6,7 b. bt 960 - 980, d. c 1014
MotherGisela von Schwaben Queen of Germany, Holy Roman empress, Queen of Burgundy8,7 b. 11 Nov 990, d. 14 Feb 1043
ReferenceGAV28
Last Edited7 Aug 2020
     Liudolf von Braunschweig Markgraf in Friesland, Graf im Derlingau married Gertrud von Egisheim, daughter of Hugh IV/VIII (?) Graf im Nordgau und zu Egisheim and Heilwig von Dagsburg.3,7,9 Liudolf von Braunschweig Markgraf in Friesland, Graf im Derlingau was born circa 1003; Genealogics says b. ca 1003; Med Lands says b. 1003/05.3,7
Liudolf von Braunschweig Markgraf in Friesland, Graf im Derlingau died on 23 April 1038.1,3,7
     ; Per Richardson:
     "Douglas Richardson Mar 26, 2006, 11:58:40 AM
     "Duke Heinrich of Bavaria & Saxony (nicknamed the Lion), died 1195, referred in a charter dated before ?1190 to his late kinsman, Friedrich II, Count Palatine of Saxony, Count of Sommerschenburg, founder of Marienthal monastery ["... quam pie memorie Frithericus palatinus, fundator ipsius coenobii, cognatus noster") [Reference: Die Urkunden Heinrichs des Löwen Herzogs von Sachsen und Bayern (Monumenta Germaniae Historica, 500-1500) (1941): 181-182].
     "Charting their respective ancestries, I find that three of Count Friedrich II's great-grandparents are unknown, which makes it difficult at best to be certain how the two men were related. Regardless, I find that one of Count Friedrich's great-grandparents, Bernard II, Count of Hövel, was in fact uncle to the ancestral line of Duke Heinrich. If this is the kinship intended, the two men were related in the 4th and 7th degrees of kindred, or if you prefer third cousins thrice removed, by virtue of common descent from Gerbege (or Guepa) of Burgundy, died 1018/9, but by different husbands, as charted below.
1. Gerberga (or Guepa) of Burgundy, died 1018/9, married (2nd) Herman II, Duke of Swabia.
2. Gisele of Swabia, married Bruno II, Count of Brunswick.
3. Liudolf, Count of Brunswick, died 1038.
4. Egbert, Count of Brunswick, died 1067/68.
5. Gertrud of Brunswick, married Heinrich, Count Northeim, Duke of Saxony.
6. Richensa of Northeim, Lothair III, Holy Roman Emperor.
7. Gertrud of Lotharinia, married Henry X, Duke of Bavaria & Saxony.
8. Heinrich "the Lion," Duke of Bavaria and Saxony, died 1195.

1. Gerberge (or Guepa) of Burgundy, died 1018/9, married (1st) Bernard I, Count of Werl.
2. Bernard II, Count of Hövel, died after 1030.
3. Ida von Werl-Hövel, married Heinrich II, Count of Lauffen.
4. Adelheid of Lauffen, married (2nd) Friedrich I, Count Palatine of Saxony, Count of Sommerschenburg.
5. Friedrich II, Count Palatine of Saxony, Count of Sommerschenburg, died 1162.

     "For additional information on Friedrich II, Count Palatine of Saxony, Count of Sommerschenburg (died 1162), see the following website:
http://www.genealogie-mittelalter.de/sommerschenburger_pfalzgrafen_von_sachsen/friedrich_2_pfalzgraf_von_sachsen_1162/friedrich_2_pfalzgraf_von_sachsen_+_1162.html
     "This post is part of a systematic, exhaustive study into the nature of kinship among high born medieval European families.
     "Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
     "Website: www.royalancestry.net“.10

; Per Med Lands:
     "[GERTRUD (-21 Jul 1077). The Annales Stadenses refers to the mother of "Ida [de Elsthorpe]" as "sororis Leonis papa qui et Bruno"[264]. The correctness of this parentage of the wife of Liudolf assumes (which appears likely to be correct as discussed in the document BRUNSWICK) that Ida von Elstorf was his daughter). The Libro Memoriarum Sancti Blasii records the death in Jul 1077 of "Ghertrudis marchionissa senior"[265].
     "m LIUDOLF Markgraf von Friesland, son of BRUNO [I] [von Braunschweig] & his wife Gisela of Swabia ([1003/05]-23 Apr 1038).] "
Med Lands cites:
[264] Annales Stadenses 1112, MGH SS XVI, p. 319.
[265] Libro Memoriarum Sancti Blasii, MGH SS XXIV, p. 825.11


Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 8:131 a.1.2 200B.
2. Wikipedia Website. Brun I - for birth date.3
GAV-28.

; This is the same person as:
”Liudolf, Margrave of Frisia” at Wikipedia, as
”Liudolf (margrave de Frise)” at Wikipédia (Fr.),
and as ”Liudolf (Friesland)” at Wikipedia (De.)12,13,14

; Per Genealogics:
     “Liudolf was the son of Graf Bruno von Braunschweig and Gisela von Schwaben. He was count in Derlingau and margrave in Friesland. His mother, when she married his father, was widow of Ernst, Herzog von Schwaben, and after his death she married Emperor Konrad II. Liudolf was thus the half-brother of the Swabian dukes Ernst and Hermann IV, and Emperor Heinrich III.
     “With his wife Gertrud von Egisheim, daughter of Hugo VI, Graf im Nordgau und zu Egisheim, and Heilwig von Dagsburg, and the sister of Pope Leo IX, he had about four children of whom Ekbert I would have progeny.
     “Liudolf died on 23 April 1038.”.3 Liudolf von Braunschweig Markgraf in Friesland, Graf im Derlingau was also known as Liudolf of Brunswick.15 Liudolf von Braunschweig Markgraf in Friesland, Graf im Derlingau was also known as Liudolf Margrave of Friesland.16 Liudolf von Braunschweig Markgraf in Friesland, Graf im Derlingau was also known as Ludolfs Graf von Braunschweig.17

; Per Med Lands:
     "LIUDOLF von Braunschweig ([1003/05]-23 Apr 1038). The Annalista Saxo names "Liudolfus comes Saxonicus, filius Brunonis de Bruneswic et Gisle inperatricis", when recording his death[16]. His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 1051 under which "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" donated "comitatum quem Brun eiusque filius noster frater Liutolfus nec non et eius filius Echbreht comites…in pagis Northduringen, Darlingen, Valen, Salthga, Grethe, Mulbeze" to the church of Hildesheim[17]. His birth date range is estimated assuming that he was "the young Count Liudolf" whom Thietmar notes was captured during a conflict with the Poles, dated to 1015[18], although it is not certain that this was the same person. Vajay[19] suggests a birth date range of [1006/08], which is more consistent with his mother's birth date but appears late for the 1015 capture. The Annalista Saxo records that "Liudolfus comes Saxonicus, filius Brunonis de Bruneswic et Gisle inperatricis" was killed "IX Kal Maii inmatura…cum maximo suorum conprovincialium merore"[20]. He was installed as Markgraf in Frisia by his stepfather Emperor Konrad II after 1 Jul 1028.
     "m GERTRUD [von Egisheim, daughter of HUGO [VIII] Graf im Nordgau und zu Egisheim & his wife Heilwig von Dagsburg] (-21 Jul 1077). The Annales Stadenses refers to the mother of "Ida [de Elsthorpe]" as "sororis Leonis papa qui et Bruno"[21]. The correctness of this parentage of the wife of Liudolf assumes (which appears likely to be correct as discussed below) that Ida von Elstorf was his daughter. The Libro Memoriarum Sancti Blasii records the death in Jul 1077 of "Ghertrudis marchionissa senior"[22]."
Med Lands cites:
[16] Annalista Saxo 1038.
[17] MGH Diplomata V, D H III 279, p. 380.
[18] Warner, D. A. (trans.) The Chronicon of Thietmar of Merseburg (2001) (Manchester University Press), 7.21, p. 320.
[19] Vajay 'Mathilde', p. 252.
[20] Annalista Saxo 1038.
[21] Annales Stadenses 1112, MGH SS XVI, p. 319.
[22] Libro Memoriarum Sancti Blasii, MGH SS XXIV, p. 825.7

; NB: Genealogics says that she was the dau. of Liudolf of Brunswick. Med Lands says that she was Liudolf's sister.18,19

Family 1

Child

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I44362
  2. [S2052] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 27 Mar 2006: "Ducal Kinsfolk: Duke Henry of Bavaria & Saxony's kinsman, Friedrich II, Count Palatine of Saxony"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/Bwy-wiR4HzY/m/_WjBWUor01IJ) to e-mail address, 26 Mar 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 26 Mar 2006."
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Liudolf von Braunschweig: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00426921&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I952
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bruno|Burin|Brun I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106626&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRUNSWICK.htm#BrunoIdied1014. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRUNSWICK.htm#Liudolffied1038
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gisela von Schwaben: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027247&tree=LEO
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gertrud von Egisheim: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00426922&tree=LEO
  10. [S2052] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 26 Mar 2006," e-mail to e-mail address, 26 Mar 2006, https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/Bwy-wiR4HzY/m/_WjBWUor01IJ
  11. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#GertrudDagsburgdied1077
  12. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liudolf,_Margrave_of_Frisia. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  13. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Liudolf (margrave de Frise): https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liudolf_(margrave_de_Frise). Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  14. [S4759] Wikipedia - Die freie Enzyklopädie, online https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hauptseite, Liudolf (Friesland): https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liudolf_(Friesland). Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (DE).
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Liudolf of Brunswick: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00371241&tree=LEO
  16. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet4.html
  17. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Babenberg page (The Babenbergs): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/babenberg/babenberg.html
  18. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN of Brunswick: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00201835&tree=LEO
  19. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRUNSWICK.htm#dauBrunoIMThiemoII
  20. [S1953] Wikipedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oda_of_Stade
  21. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRUNSWICK.htm#IdaMLiutpoldOstmark
  22. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida von Elsdorf: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00571690&tree=LEO
  23. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRUNSWICK.htm#dauLiudolfMKonradHaldensleben
  24. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet4.html
  25. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ekbert I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00060578&tree=LEO
  26. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRUNSWICK.htm#EkbertIdied1068

Hugh VI/IX (?) Count of Dagsburg1,2

M, #18818, b. circa 1010, d. between 1046 and 1049
FatherHugh IV/VIII (?) Graf im Nordgau und zu Egisheim1,3 b. c 970, d. 1048
MotherHeilwig von Dagsburg1 b. c 972, d. 1046
ReferenceGAV29
Last Edited29 Feb 2020
     Hugh VI/IX (?) Count of Dagsburg married Mathilde (?) de Bourgogne, daughter of Conrad I "The Peaceful" (?) King of Burgundy and Matilda (?) de France, Queen consort of Burgundy.4,2 Hugh VI/IX (?) Count of Dagsburg was born circa 1010.1
Hugh VI/IX (?) Count of Dagsburg died between 1046 and 1049.1,2
     GAV-29.

; Per Med Lands:
     "HUGO [IX] (-[1046/18 Nov 1049]). His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 18 Nov 1050 under which Pope Leo IX donated property to Heiligenkreuz Kloster in Woffenheim, near Egisheim, naming "patris mei Hugonis et matris meæ Heilwigdis, amborumque fratrum meorum Gerardi et Hugonis…iam defunctorum" and "nepoti meo Heinrico, castrum Egensheim"[251]. Graf von Dagsburg.
     "m MATHILDE, daughter of ---. Pope Leo IX donated property to the abbey of Hesse by charter dated to [1050] which names “patrueles nostros comites Mathfridum et bonæ memoriæ Gerhardum, eiusque uxorem...Cunizam...fratrem nostrum Hugonem...domnæ Mathildis [...uxoris fratris nostri Hugonis prædicti] et filii eius Henrici nostri quondam nepotis” who was buried at the abbey and “pater noster Hugo”[252]. Carutti identifies her as Mathilde, daughter of Conrad I King of Burgundy & his second wife Mathilde de France [Carolingian], but he cites no primary source on which this hypothesis is based[253]."
Med Lands cites:
[251] Alsatia diplomatica I, CCVII, p. 163.
[252] Calmet, A. (1748) Histoire de Lorraine (Nancy), Tome II, Preuves, col. cclxxxvii.
[253] Carutti, D. (1888) Il conte Umberto I e il re Ardoino (Rome), p. 13.2

Unknown (?)1

F, #18819
ReferenceEDV31
Last Edited3 Nov 2020
     Unknown (?) married Emund Slemme 'the Old' (?) King of Sweden, son of Olaf III "Skotkonung" (?) King of Sweden and Edla (?);
His 1st wife.1,2,3
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "EMUND (-1060). Snorre names "Emund, Astrid, Holmfrid" as the children of King Olof by his concubine Edla, specifying that Emund was sent to Vindland to be fostered by his mother's relations where "he for a long time neglected his Christianity"[63]. Adam of Bremen names "Emund" as son of "rex Olaph…a concubina"[64]. He succeeded in [1052] as EMUND Slemme "den Gamle/the Old" King of Sweden.
     "m [firstly] ---. The name of Emund's first wife is not known.
     "m secondly as her second husband, ASTRID Njalsdotter, widow of RAGNVALD Ulfsson Jarl of Västergötland, daughter of NJAL --- & his wife ---. The primary source which confirms her parentage and two marriages has not yet been identified. Her supposed second [marriage to Ragnvald may be nothing more than a guess based on Adam of Bremen recording that "nepos eius [=rex Sueonum Emund] Stinkel" succeeded on the death of Emund[65].]
     "King Emund & his [first] wife had [two] children"
Med Lands cites:
[63] Snorre, Saga of Olaf Haraldson Part III, 89.
[64] Adami, Gesta Hammenburgensis Ecclesiæ Pontificum II.57, MGH SS VII, p. 326.
[65] Adami, Gesta Hammenburgensis Ecclesiæ Pontificum III.14 and III.15, MGH SS VII, p. 341.3
EDV-31.

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00537312&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Emund Slemme 'the Old': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00049968&tree=LEO
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SWEDEN.htm#Emunddied1060. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Heinrich I (?) Graf von Egisheim und Dagsburg1,2

M, #18820, b. circa 1040, d. circa 1065
FatherHugh VI/IX (?) Count of Dagsburg3,4 b. c 1010, d. bt 1046 - 1049
MotherMathilde (?) de Bourgogne3 b. c 1010
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited17 Apr 2020
     Heinrich I (?) Graf von Egisheim und Dagsburg married NN de Moha, daughter of Albert (?) Lord of Moha.1 Heinrich I (?) Graf von Egisheim und Dagsburg was born circa 1040.3
Heinrich I (?) Graf von Egisheim und Dagsburg died circa 1065.3
Heinrich I (?) Graf von Egisheim und Dagsburg died circa 28 June 1065; Genealgoics says d. ca 28 Jun 1065; Med Lands says d. "28 Jun [before 1050]."2,5
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: 1.2 200B.2 GAV-27.

; Per Med Lands:
     "HEINRICH [I], son of HUGO [IX] Graf von Dagsburg & his wife Mathilde --- (-28 Jun [before 1050]). Pope Leo IX donated property to the abbey of Hesse by charter dated to [1050] which names “patrueles nostros comites Mathfridum et bonæ memoriæ Gerhardum, eiusque uxorem...Cunizam...fratrem nostrum Hugonem...domnæ Mathildis [...uxoris fratris nostri Hugonis prædicti] et filii eius Henrici nostri quondam nepotis” who was buried at the abbey and “pater noster Hugo”[272]. Graf von Egisheim und Dagsburg.
     "m ---. The name and origin of Heinrich's wife are not known. "
Med Lands cites: [272] Calmet (1748), Tome II, Preuves, col. cclxxxvii.5

; Per Racines et Histoire: "Mathilde + entre 28/11/1091 et 08/03/1105
     ép. son cousin Hugo VIII, graf von Dagsburg-Nordgau + 05/091089 (ass., Strasbourg, par un serviteur de l’Evêque) (fils d’Heinrich 1er, graf von Egisheim und Dagsburg, et de ? de Moha.)6"

Family 1

Child

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heinrich I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00602928&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I44812
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#HugoIXEgisheimdied1046. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#HeinrichIdied1065B
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Bar, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerhard II von Dagsburg: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028164&tree=LEO
  8. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I10901
  9. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I44833
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Albert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00370943&tree=LEO

NN de Moha1

F, #18821, b. circa 1040
FatherAlbert (?) Lord of Moha2 b. c 1010
ReferenceGAV27 EDV27
Last Edited17 Apr 2020
     NN de Moha married Heinrich I (?) Graf von Egisheim und Dagsburg, son of Hugh VI/IX (?) Count of Dagsburg and Mathilde (?) de Bourgogne.1 NN de Moha was born circa 1040.3
     GAV-27 EDV-27.

; Per Racines et Histoire: "Mathilde + entre 28/11/1091 et 08/03/1105
     ép. son cousin Hugo VIII, graf von Dagsburg-Nordgau + 05/091089 (ass., Strasbourg, par un serviteur de l’Evêque) (fils d’Heinrich 1er, graf von Egisheim und Dagsburg, et de ? de Moha.)4"

Albert (?) Lord of Moha1

M, #18822, b. circa 1010
ReferenceGAV29
Last Edited27 Oct 2019
     Albert (?) Lord of Moha was born circa 1010.1
     GAV-29.

Family

Child

Gerard III (?) Graf von Egisheim1

M, #18823, b. circa 1050, d. 1075
FatherHeinrich I (?) Graf von Egisheim und Dagsburg1 b. c 1040, d. c 1065
MotherNN de Moha1 b. c 1040
Last Edited16 Mar 2020
     Gerard III (?) Graf von Egisheim was born circa 1050.1
Gerard III (?) Graf von Egisheim died in 1075.1

Albert II de Moha Comte de Moha, Graf von Dagsburg:1

M, #18824, b. circa 1065, d. 24 August 1098
FatherHeinrich I (?) Graf von Egisheim und Dagsburg2,3 b. c 1040, d. c 1065
MotherNN de Moha2,3 b. c 1040
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited12 Nov 2020
     Albert II de Moha Comte de Moha, Graf von Dagsburg: married Heilwig von Dagsburg, daughter of Heinrich I (?) Graf von Egisheim und Dagsburg;
His 1st wife.4 Albert II de Moha Comte de Moha, Graf von Dagsburg: was born circa 1065 at Germany (now).3 He married Ermesinde (?) Gräfin von Luxemburg, Heiress of Longwy, daughter of Konrad I von Luxemburg Graf von Luxemburg and Clemence (?) de Poitou, heiress of Gleibert, Css de Longwy, circa 1096;
Her 1st husband; his 2nd wife.5,3,6,7,1
Albert II de Moha Comte de Moha, Graf von Dagsburg: died on 24 August 1098.5,3,1
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: 6:128.3

; Per Med Lands:
     "ALBERT [II] [de Moha] (-24 Aug 1098). It appears possible from a chronological point of view that Albert [II] was the son of Albert [I] Comte de Moha but the primary source which confirms that this is correct has not been identified. Comte de Moha: "Albertus comes de Musau" donated property "ecclesias unam in Monte Sancti Martini et alteram in Villari" to the church of Verdun Sainte-Vanne by charter dated 10 May 1096[291]. Graf von Dagsburg: the necrology of Verdun Saint-Vanne records the death "IX Kal Sep" of "Albertus comes Dasburgensis qui nobis cellam Montis Sancti Martini…dedit"[292]. It appears likely that Albert [II] inherited Dagsburg, through his first wife, after the death of her supposed brother Hugo [X] in 1089, but the primary source which confirms that this is correct has not been identified.
     "m firstly HEILWIG [von Dagsburg], daughter of [HEINRICH [I] Graf von Egisheim und Dagsburg & his wife ---]. The Codex Hirsaugiensis names "Adalbertus comes de Egensheim et uxor eius Heilewig"[293]. The following charter confirms that Heilwig was the sister of Bruno Archdeacon of Toul, but does not confirm the parentage of the two siblings: [her son] "Hugo comes" donated property to Kloster Lüders for the soul of "patris sui…Albertis comitis et avunculi sui Brunonis archidiaconis Tullensis" by charter dated 1137[294]. Her husband’s inheritance of Dagsburg suggests that she was the heiress of Hugo [X], maybe his sister. The primary source which confirms this relationship has not been identified.
     "m secondly as her first husband, ERMENSENDE de Luxembourg, daughter of KONRAD I Comte de Luxembourg & his [second] wife Clémence --- (-26 Jun 1141). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitem Guilelmum de Luscelenburg…et Ermensendem…et Mathildem" as children of "Conrado comiti de Luscelenburch" and his wife Ermensendis, specifying that Ermesinde was wife of "Namucensem…comitis Godefridi"[295]. However, Ermensende´s correct parentage is stated in the charter dated 17 Jun 1129 under which Meginher Archbishop of Trier confirmed the foundation of Kloster Schiffenberg by "Clementia…comitissa" with the consent of "filii sui Willehelmi et filie Irmesindis"[296]. "Ermensendis comitissa Namucensis" confirmed the prior donation of property to the church of Verdun Sainte-Vanne by "senioris mei comitis Alberti" by charter dated to [1124], subscribed by "domni mei Godefridi comitis et filii mei Henrici comitis, Hugonis filii Folmari comitis, Everardi filii Aiulfi comitis"[297]. In a charter dated 1139, "Albero…Leodiensium episcopus" notes a donation of property to the abbey of Marcigny-sur-Loire by "domna Ermensendis comitissa de Musalt, quæ uxor extitit…comitis Alberici" on the suggestion of "quadam nobili et religiosa fœmina nomine Regina, sibi enim consanguinea"[298], the original donation presumably being dated before [1109] when Ermesinde married her second husband. She married secondly ([1109]) as his second wife, Godefroi I Comte de Namur. "Ermensendis comitissa de Muhalt, quæ uxor…comitis Alberti" founded the monastery of Saint-Victor, Huy by charter dated 1130[299]. Heiress of Luxembourg and Longwy, after the death of her nephew Comte Conrad [II] in 1136. "Comitissa de Musal Ermensendis cum viro suo Namucensi comite Godefrido" donated property to Flône, at the request of "Guntranni et Gisle uxoris eius", by charter dated 1137[300]. The necrology of Verdun Saint-Vanne records the death "VIII Kal Jun" of "Ermensendis comitissa Namucensis qui cum viro suo…comite Alberto cellam Montis Sancti Martini…confirmavit"[301].
     "Albert [II] & his first wife had one child:
1. [HEINRICH] HUGO [XI] (-after 1137).

     "Albert [II] & his [second] wife had [two] children:
2. [MECHTILD (-[1135/57])).
3. [daughter ."

Med Lands cites:
[291] Bloch, H. (ed.) ´Die älteren Urkunden des Klosters S. Vanne zu Verdun´, Jahrbuch der Gesellschaft für lothringische Geschichte und Altertumskunde, 14th year, 1901 (“Verdun Saint-Vanne (1902)”), 1902, LXII, p. 86.
[292] Aimond, C. 'Le nécrologe de la cathédrale de Verdun', Jahrbuch der Gesellschaft für lothringische Geschichte und Altertumskunde Year 14 (first part) (1902) (“necrology Verdun Saint-Vanne (1902)”), p. 145.
[293] Vanderkindere, Tome II, p. 153, citing Württemberg. Jahrbüch., X, Codex Hirsaugiensis, p. 30.
[294] Vanderkindere, Tome II, p. 153, quoting Würdtween Nova Subsidia VII, 96, quoted in Witte, H. 'Genealogische Untersuchungen zur Geschichte Lothringens und des Westrich (II)', Jahrbuch der Gesellschaft für lothringische Geschichte und Altertumskunde, VII.1, 1895 (Metz), p. 112.
[295] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 851.
[296] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch 465a, p. 524.
[297] Verdun Sainte-Vanne (1902), LXXVI, p. 98.
[298] Richard, J. (ed.) (1957) Le cartulaire de Marcigny-sur-Loire 1045-1144 (Dijon) (“Marcigny-sur-Loire”), 176, p. 105.
[299] Foppens, J. F. (1748) Diplomatum Belgicorum nova collectio, sive supplementum ad opera diplomatica Auberti Miræi (Brussels), Tome IV, Pars III, XXV, p. 363.
[300] Evrard, M. (ed.) ´Documents relatifs à l´abbaye de Flône´, Analectes pour servir à l´histoire ecclésiastique de la Belgique, Tome XXIII (Louvain, 1892) ("Flône"), IX, p. 295.
[301] Necrology Verdun Saint-Vanne, p. 142.1
GAV-27. Albert II de Moha Comte de Moha, Graf von Dagsburg: was also known as Adalbert II von Egisheim Graf von Dagsburg-Moka.5 Albert II de Moha Comte de Moha, Graf von Dagsburg: was also known as Albert Graf von Dagsburg.3

; Per Med Lands:
     "[HEILWIG . The Codex Hirsaugiensis names "Adalbertus comes de Egensheim et uxor eius Heilewig"[289]. The following charter confirms that Heilwig was the sister of Bruno Archdeacon of Toul, but does not confirm the parentage of the two siblings: [her son] "Hugo comes" donated property to Kloster Lüders for the soul of "patris sui…Albertis comitis et avunculi sui Brunonis archidiaconis Tullensis" by charter dated 1137[290]. Her husband’s inheritance of Dagsburg suggests that she was the heiress of Hugo [X], maybe his sister. The primary source which confirms this relationship has not been identified.
     "m as his first wife, ALBERT [II] [de Moha], son of --- (-24 Aug 1098).]"
Med Lands cites:
[289] Vanderkindere, Tome II, p. 153, citing Württemberg. Jahrbüch., X, Codex Hirsaugiensis, p. 30.
[290] Vanderkindere, Tome II, p. 153, quoting Würdtween Nova Subsidia VII, 96, quoted in Witte, H. 'Genealogische Untersuchungen zur Geschichte Lothringens und des Westrich (II)', Jahrbuch der Gesellschaft für lothringische Geschichte und Altertumskunde, VII.1, 1895 (Metz), p. 112.4

Family 2

Ermesinde (?) Gräfin von Luxemburg, Heiress of Longwy b. c 1075, d. 24 Jun 1141
Child

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#AlbertIDagsburgdied1098. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I44833
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Albert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00370943&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#HeilwigDachsburgMAlbertMoha
  5. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 3 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg3.html
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermesinde: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027096&tree=LEO
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LUXEMBOURG.htm#Ermesindedied1141
  8. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#HugoIXDagsburgdiedafter1137B
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mechtild von Dagsburg: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106503&tree=LEO
  10. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#MechtildDagsburgdiedafter1157

Clemence (?) de Poitou, heiress of Gleibert, Css de Longwy1,2,3

F, #18825, b. circa 1060, d. 4 January 1142
FatherPierre-Guillaume V (VII) "l'Aigret" (?) Duke of Aquitaine, Comte de Poitou4,1 b. c 1023, d. 1058
MotherErmesinde (?) de Longwy1,5,4 b. c 1025
ReferenceGAV24 EDV24
Last Edited21 Sep 2020
     Clemence (?) de Poitou, heiress of Gleibert, Css de Longwy was born circa 1060 at Aquitaine, France.1,3,4,6 She married Konrad I von Luxemburg Graf von Luxemburg, son of Giselbert II (?) Graf von Salm, Longwy and Luxemburg and Unknown (?), in 1073.1,7,3,4 Clemence (?) de Poitou, heiress of Gleibert, Css de Longwy married Gerhard I Flaminius (?) Graaf van Gelre, Graf von Wassenberg, son of Dietrich Flamens (?) and (?) (?) of Molsberg, circa 1086.1,2,8,9
Clemence (?) de Poitou, heiress of Gleibert, Css de Longwy died on 4 January 1142 at Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany (now).1,3,4,6
Clemence (?) de Poitou, heiress of Gleibert, Css de Longwy was buried after 4 January 1142 at Wassenberg Wald Friedhof, Waldfeucht, Landkreis Heinsberg, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     unknown, Aquitaine, France
     DEATH     1142, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany
     of Gleiberg
     Family Members
     Parents
          Guillaume V Pierre de Poitou 1023–1058
          Ermensende de Longwy de Poitou
     Spouse
          Gerhard I von Wassenburg 1068–1129
     Siblings
          Agnes d'Aquitaine de Savoie
     Children
          Gerhard II von Geldern 1090 – unknown
     BURIAL     Wassenberg Wald Friedhof, Waldfeucht, Landkreis Heinsberg, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
     Created by: Memerizion
     Added: 14 May 2015
     Find A Grave Memorial 146462059.6
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "CONRAD, son of GISELBERT Graf von Salm [Luxembourg] & his wife --- (-in Palestine 8 Aug 1086, bur [1090 Luxembourg Münster Abbey]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitis Conradis" as son of "Gislebertus comes de Luscelenburch"[158]. Vogt of St Maximin at Trier and of Stablo. He succeeded his father in [1056/59] as Comte [de Luxembourg]. He captured Eberhard Archbishop of Trier, for which he was excommunicated[159]. "Conradus comes" founded the Benedictine abbey of Münster [Altmünster] in Luxembourg, with the consent of "uxore mea Clementia cum filiis et filiabus nostris", by charter dated 7 Jul 1083[160]. He died while on the pilgrimage which had been required before his excommunication could be lifted[161]. He is referred to as "Comes de Luccilinburg" on the seals of Münster abbey, the first of his family to which this title was ascribed[162]. The Chronicon of Bernold records the death in 1086 of "Chonradus comes, frater Heremanni regis" while on pilgrimage to Jerusalem[163]. His tomb at Münster records the death of “comes Conradus...peregrinus sepultus in terra decenter non sua...VI Id Aug” 1086, the return of his body four years later, and its burial in the presence of “conjuge sua Clementia, per manum Adalberonis primicerii Metensis, Henrici comitis, Conrardique comitis...Rodolpho abbate filio comitis”[164].
     "There is considerable confusion regarding the wife or wives of Comte Conrad. It is likely that Comte Conrad married twice. Alternatively, he may have had a single wife to whom all the references below refer, although if this was correct she would have had a considerable lifespan considering that Conrad´s grandson by his daughter Mathilde is named in 1087 (see below):
     "[m --- de Poitou, daughter of --- [Duke of Aquitaine, Comte de Poitou] & his wife ---. Her marriage and family origin are confirmed by the charter dated 1088 under which "Regina ex prosapia non obscura…comitis Cononis filia qui frater extit Conraldi viri…in itinere Jerosolimitano defuncti, generi nimirum comitis Pictaviensis" donated property to the abbey of Marcigny-sur-Loire for the foundation of the priory of Aiwaille[165]. Fabri identifies "Conradi" as Conrad Comte de Luxembourg, suggesting that "frater" should be interpreted to indicate brother-in-law, the text indicating that Conrad was son-in-law of "comitis Pictaviensis"[166]. If this alleged Poitou origin of the wife of Comte Conrad is correct, the problem is identifying her father. There are few data points to establish the chronology of the family of the comtes de Luxembourg, but it appears likely that Comte Conrad would have been born in [1030/40]. If this is correct, his Poitou wife would most likely have been a granddaughter of Guillaume V "le Grand" Duke of Aquitaine [Guillaume III Comte de Poitou]. Secondary sources have suggested that she was the daughter of Duke Guillaume V´s son, Guillaume VII "Acerrimus/l'Aigret" Duke of Aquitaine [Guillaume V Comte de Poitou]. The thrust of the argument from which this conclusion is drawn is an explanation for the transmission of Longwy to the Luxembourg family: Alberic de Trois Fontaines names the wife of Comte Conrad "comitissa de Longui et de Castris Ermensendis"[167], and Comte Conrad´s daughter of the same name is later recorded as holding Longwy. As the family origin of the wives of the other dukes of Aquitaine/comtes de Poitou is known, the argument proceeds on the assumption that Duke Guillaume VII´s wife Ermesinde is the only possible source from whom Longwy could have been inherited. There are several difficulties with this argument. Firstly, the word "gener", used in the 1088 charter, may have been used in a wider sense in the same way as "frater": for example, cases have been observed in other primary sources where "gener" indicates brother-in-law. Secondly, it is far from certain that the passage in Alberic is factually correct: as noted below, difficulties are suggested by the reference to "Castris", which normally indicates the county of Bliescastel which has not been connected to the wife of Comte Conrad. Thirdly, there is considerable uncertainty over the ownership of Longwy after the death of Comte Manegold in [1040] (see the document UPPER LOTHARINGIA NOBILITY). Fourthly, the mother of Comte Conrad´s daughter Ermensende (who later held Longwy) is confirmed in another charter (see below) as Conrad´s known wife Clémence, although it is of course possible that Alberic simply mistook the name and that Clémence was the heiress of Longwy. In conclusion, there are too many variables in this situation to conclude that the wife of Comte Conrad was the daughter of Guillaume VII Duke of Aquitaine.]
     "[m [firstly] ERMENSENDE [Ctss de Longwy], daughter of ---. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitissa de Longui et de Castris Ermensendis" as wife of "Conrado comiti de Luscelenburch"[168]. "Castris" is normally the Latin name used for Bliescastel (see the document UPPER LOTHARINGIA NOBILITY). No connection has been identified between Ermensende’s ancestors and the family of the Grafen von Bliescastel, although her daughter’s husband was Graf von Bliescastel: maybe Ermensende was the heiress of Bliescastel which she passed to her daughter. Concerning Longwy, according to the Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium, it was held in the 1140s by Adalbert [Graf von Metz] Duke of Upper Lotharingia: the Gesta names "Albertum de Longui castro, quem…ducem", the text appearing to refer to the duke of Upper Lotharingia who was killed in 1148[169]. If this is correct, it is possible that the wife of Comte Conrad was Ermensende, daughter of Adalbert Duke of Lower Lotharingia. However, no other record has been found of Longwy being in the possession of the family of the Grafen von Metz. Szabolcs de Vajay suggests that the Gesta incorrectly attributes Longwy to Duke Adalbert, confusing him with Albert [II] Graf von Dagsburg, first husband of Ermensende de Luxembourg, daughter of Comte Conrad, who is later recorded as heiress of Longwy[170]. No other indication has been found of the ownership of Longwy during the period [1140/60]. This proposed parentage of the wife of Comte Conrad should be considered as highly speculative. Another possibility is that Alberic misquoted the name of the countess and that Ermensende was an error for Clémence.]
     "m [secondly] (before 1080) [as her first husband,] CLEMENTIA, daughter of --- (-after 1141). Her [first] marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 7 Jul 1083 under which "Conradus comes" founded the Benedictine abbey of Münster [Altmünster] in Luxembourg, with the consent of "uxore mea Clementia cum filiis et filiabus nostris"[171]. "Conradus cum uxore mea Clementia" founded the abbey of Münster at Luxembourg, with the consent of "filiis meis Henrico, Conradi et Wilhelmo", by charter dated 1080[172]. The tomb of her husband at Münster records the death of “comes Conradus...peregrinus sepultus in terra decenter non sua...VI Id Aug” 1086, the return of his body four years later, and its burial in the presence of “conjuge sua Clementia, per manum Adalberonis primicerii Metensis, Henrici comitis, Conrardique comitis...Rodolpho abbate filio comitis”[173]. Meginher Archbishop of Trier confirmed the foundation of Kloster Schiffenberg by "Clementia…comitissa" with the consent of "filii sui Willehelmi et filie Irmesindis" by charter dated 17 Jun 1129[174]. It is possible that Clémence married [secondly/thirdly] [as his second wife,] Gerhard [I] Graaf van Gelre. Her supposed [second/third] marriage is confirmed by a second version of the charter confirming the foundation of Kloster Schiffenberg, dated 1129, which records the donation made by "Clementia comitissa de Glizberc…per manum Gerhardi mariti sui comitis de Gelre", with the consent of "palatine comitisse Gertrudis" (identified as Gertrud von Northeim, widow of Siegfried Graf von Orlamünde, Pfalzgrafen von Lothringen, and wife of Otto von Salm Graf von Rheineck) to whom one fourth part of the property belonged[175]. Szabolcs de Vajay dismisses this supposed [second/third] marriage, considering that this second Schiffenberg document is a falsification[176]. However, the language of the document is not obviously anachronistic, the only surprising element being the large number of witnesses. The doubts surrounding the authenticity of these documents is discussed at length by Wyss[177]. "Clementia comitissa de Glizberg cum meis nepotibus Ottone et Wilhelmo" confirmed the foundation of Schiffenberg, with the consent of "domne Gertrudis palatine…[et] Adela filia eiusdem palatine", by charter dated 1141[178]. A highly speculative [second] marriage to --- Graf von Gleiberg is also suggested by the documents relating to Clementia´s supposed [second/third] marriage, because of the two references to her as “comitissa de Glizberc”. No primary source document has yet been identified in which Clementia´s [first] husband is described as “Graf von Gleiberg”. Nor has any record been found of the county of Gleiberg being held by her son by this [first] marriage, Guillaume [I] Comte de Luxembourg, nor by Guillaume´s son Conrad [II] Comte de Luxembourg. One possible explanation is that Clementia was not in fact heiress of Gleiberg, although she is often described as such in contemporary secondary sources, and that she was accorded the title in the 1129 and 1141 as the widow of an otherwise unidentified “Graf von Gleiberg” whom she married after the death of Conrad [I] Comte de Luxembourg. If that is correct, this shadowy [second] husband may have been the uncle or great-uncle of the cousins Otto and Wilhelm who are named above and who would have inherited the title after his death. If Clementia was dowager countess of Gleiberg, maybe continuing to hold part of the county as dower from her [second] husband, this would explain the necessity of her acting jointly with her nephews in the 1129 and 1141 documents."
Med Lands cites:
[158] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1024, MGH SS XXIII, p. 782.
[159] Gade (1951), pp. 55-6.
[160] Miraeus (Le Mire), A. (1723) Opera diplomatica et historica, 2nd edn. (Louvain), Tome I, Diplomata Belgica, Liber II, XXXV, p. 269.
[161] Gade (1951), pp. 57.
[162] Gade (1951), pp. 56-7.
[163] Bernoldi Chronicon 1086, MGH SS V, p. 445.
[164] Berthelot, J. (1742) Histoire ecclésiastique et civile du duché de Luxembourg (Luxembourg), Tome III, p. 283.
[165] Richard, J. (ed.) (1957) Le cartulaire de Marcigny-sur-Loire 1045-1144 (Dijon) 30bis, p. 26.
[166] Fabri ´La comtesse Reine´, p. 8.
[167] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 851.
[168] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 851.
[169] Laurentii Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium 2, MGH SS X, p. 492.
[170] Szabolcs de Vajay 'Parlons encore d'Etiennette', Keats-Rohan, K. S. B. and Settipani, C. (eds.) (2000) Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident medieval (Oxford), p. 4.
[171] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Diplomata Belgica, Liber II, XXXV, p. 269.
[172] Vanderkindere, A. (1902) La formation territoriale des principautés belges au moyen-âge (Brussels), Vol. II, p. 357, quoting Bertholot, III, pr. XXXV.
[173] Berthelot (1742), Tome III, p. 283.
[174] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I, 465a, p. 524.
[175] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I, 465b, p. 524.10


; Per Med Lands:
     "GERHARD von Wassenberg, son of DIETRICH "Flamens" Graf [von Wassenberg] & his wife --- (-[before 1129 or 24 Oct [1131]]). The Chronicon Huberti names "Gerardus et Gozwinus filius eius [=Theodericum]" in 1082[975]. Graf von Wassenberg. The Gesta Abbatum Trudonensium records that "Gerardum…de castello…Guassenberge et Gozwinum avunculum eius de castello…Heinesberge" introduced abbot Luipo into the abbey of Saint-Trond in 1085[976]. "Gerardus de Gelre, Arnoldus comes de Berge, Waleramus comes de Lemburg, Gerardus comes de Iuliaco…" signed the charter dated 1085 under which Friedrich Archbishop of Köln donated property to Kloster St Martin, Köln[977]. "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" confirmed a donation of property "in Traiecto quam comes Gerardus de Wassenbergen invaserat" to St Servatius, Maastricht by charter dated 1087[978]. Graaf van Gelre 1096: "…Gerardi comitis de Gelre et fratris eius Henrici…" witnessed the charter dated 1096 under which "Ida Boloniensis comitissa" donated property in "Genapia" to Afflighem abbey[979]. Friedrich [I] Archbishop of Köln confirmed the donation of property "in Horenchusen…[et] in Dorwilere" made to Köln St Maria by "Meginherus de Randenrode cum neque uxorem neque filium haberet", in the presence of "fratre suo Hartberno", by charter dated 13 Apr 1104 witnessed by "Gerhart de Gelleron comes, Gerhart comes de Iulicho et frater eius Gerlach, Gerhart de Hochstaden, Dieterich de Mere, Heriman de Zulpico…"[980]. Friedrich [I] Archbishop of Köln donated serfs to Köln St Severin, with the consent of "Francone urbis nostre prefecto", by charter dated 1109, witnessed by "Gerhardo comite de Gelre, Adelberto de Safenberg, Adelberto de Nervennich, Herimanno de Udenkircha, Gerhardo de Julicho, Gerhardo de Hoinstathe, Gerlacho de Isenburch et fratre sui Regenbaldo, Harperno de Randenrothe…"[981]. Friedrich [I] Archbishop of Köln donated property to Kloster Rees by charter dated 1112 witnessed by "Henricus dux de Lintburg, Almer advocatus, Hugo, Adolf comes de Safenberk, Advocatus Teodericus, Comes Gerhardus et filius eius Gerhardus…"[982]. "…Gerhardus comes de Gelleren et filius eius Gerhardus…" witnessed the charter dated 1117 under which Friedrich Archbishop of Köln donated property to Meregelpe[983]. Friedrich [I] Archbishop of Köln confirmed the dismissal of "comes Gerhardus et frater eius Heinricus" from the Vogteischaft of Kloster Siegburg by charter dated 5 Apr 1118 witnessed by "Comes Gerhardus et frater eius Heinricus, Comes Adolfus de Monte, Comes Adolfus de Saphenberg, Comes Gerhardus de Iuliaco, Gerhardus iunior filius Gerhardi, Gerhardus de Caesle, Arnulfus de Odenkirche"[984]. Friedrich [I] Archbishop of Köln confirmed donations to Kloster Dunwald and shared the Vogteischaft with "comitis Adolphi" by charter dated 1118 witnessed by "Adolfus comes de Monte et frater eius Euerhardus, Gerardus comes de Wassenberg […et filius eius Gerardus], Theodericus comes de Thonburch, Theodericus comes de Ara, domnus Goswinus de Hennesberg et frater eius Gerardus…Gerardus de Wyckerode…"[985]. "Comes Gerhardus" founded a church "in meo allodio Wassenberg" by charter dated 30 Sep 1118[986]. [Friedrich [I] Archbishop of Köln confirmed a donation to Kloster Siegburg by charter dated 1129 witnessed by "…Liberi. Paganus dux, Franco burgicomes, Gerhardus comes de Gelre, Adolfus comes de Monte, Adolfus comes de Saffenberg…"[987]. It is unclear whether this document refers to Gerhard [I] or Gerhard [II].] [The necrology of Wassenberg records the death 24 Oct [1131] of “dominus Gerardus Longus comes Gelrie, qui fuit fundator et dotator huius ecclesie in Wassenberg”[988]. It is unclear from this document whether it refers to Gerhard [I] or Gerhard [II].]
     "m [firstly] ---. The name and origin of the wife of Gerhard is not known.
     "[m [secondly] as her [second/third] husband, CLEMENTIA, widow [firstly] of CONRAD Comte [de Luxembourg] [and secondly of --- Graf von Gleiberg], daughter of --- (-after 1141). This marriage is confirmed by the second version of a charter confirming the foundation of Kloster Schiffenberg, dated 1129, which records the donation made by "Clementia comitissa de Glizberc…per manum Gerhardi mariti sui comitis de Gelre"[989]. The donor is identified in other sources as the widow of Conrad [I] Comte [de Luxembourg] (see LUXEMBOURG). Szabolcs de Vajay dismisses Clementia’s supposed [second/third] marriage, assuming that the document in question is spurious[990]. However, the language of the document is not obviously anachronistic, the only surprising element being the large number of witnesses. See FRANCONIA NOBILITY for discussion about Clementia’s possible [second] marriage.]"
Med Lands cites:
[975] Chronicon Sancti Huberti Andaginensis 42 (54), MGH SS VIII, p. 591.
[976] Rodulfi Gesta Abbatum Trudonensium III, MGH SS X, p. 241.
[977] Köln Quellen, Band I, 40, p. 502.
[978] D H IV 394, p. 521.
[979] Miraeus (Le Mire), A. (1723), Tome I, LXVII, p. 77.
[980] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 263, p. 170.
[981] Köln St Severin, 5, p. 8.
[982] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 274, p. 177.
[983] Spaen, W. A. van (1805) Oordeelkundige inleiding tot de Historie van Gelre, Vierde Deel (Utrecht) Codex diplomaticus, IV, p. 6.
[984] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 286, p. 187.
[985] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 288, p. 188.
[986] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 289, p. 189.
[987] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 307, p. 203.
[988] Sloet (1872), 261, p. 255.9


Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Gens Nostra Amsterdam , Reference: 1985 57.
2. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels Fürstliche Häuser , Reference: 1955 108.1


; Per Genealogy.EU: "Clementia of Aquitaine, Cts de Longwy (*1060 +1142.)3"



; Per Genealogy.EU: "Clementia of Aquitaine, heiress of Longwy, Frau von Gleiberg, *1060, +after 1129/1142; 1m: shortly before 1075 Ct Konrad of Luxemburg (+1086); 2m: Ct Gerhard of Geldern."4

GAV-24 EDV-24 GKJ-25. Clemence (?) de Poitou, heiress of Gleibert, Css de Longwy was also known as Clemence de Longwy.11

; Per Med Lands:
     "CLEMENTIA (-after 1141). Her [first] marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 7 Jul 1083 under which "Conradus comes" founded the Benedictine abbey of Münster [Altmünster] in Luxembourg, with the consent of "uxore mea Clementia cum filiis et filiabus nostris"[114]. "Conradus cum uxore mea Clementia" founded the abbey of Münster at Luxembourg, with the consent of "filiis meis Henrico, Conradi et Wilhelmo", by charter dated 1080[115]. Meginher Archbishop of Trier confirmed the foundation of Kloster Schiffenberg by "Clementia…comitissa" with the consent of "filii sui Willehelmi et filie Irmesindis" by charter dated 17 Jun 1129[116]. Her supposed [second/third] marriage is confirmed by a second version of the charter confirming the foundation of Kloster Schiffenberg, dated 1129, which records the donation made by "Clementia comitissa de Glizberc…per manum Gerhardi mariti sui comitis de Gelre", with the consent of "palatine comitisse Gertrudis" [identified as Gertrud von Northeim, widow of Siegfried Graf von Orlamünde, Pfalzgrafen von Lothringen, and wife of Otto von Salm Graf von Rheineck, presumably a relative whose family relationship has not been traced, although see below for some speculation about this] to whom one fourth part of the property belonged[117]. Szabolcs de Vajay dismisses this supposed [second/third] marriage, considering that this second Schiffenberg document is a falsification[118]. However, the language of the document is not obviously anachronistic, the only surprising element being the large number of witnesses. The doubts surrounding the authenticity of these documents is discussed at length by Wyss[119]. "Clementia comitissa de Glizberg cum meis nepotibus Ottone et Wilhelmo" confirmed the foundation of Schiffenberg, with the consent of "domne Gertrudis palatine…[et] Adela filia eiusdem palatine", by charter dated 1141[120]. The documents relating to Clementia´s supposed [second/third] marriage also suggest a possible [second] marriage, because of the two references to her as “comitissa de Glizberc”. No primary source document has yet been identified in which Clementia´s [first] husband is described as “Graf von Gleiberg”. Nor has any record been found of the county of Gleiberg being held by her son by this [first] marriage, Guillaume [I] Comte de Luxembourg, nor by Guillaume´s son Conrad [II] Comte de Luxembourg. One possible explanation is that Clementia was not in fact heiress of Gleiberg, although she is often described as such in contemporary secondary sources, and that she was accorded the title in the 1129 and 1141 as the widow of an otherwise unidentified “Graf von Gleiberg” whom she married after the death of Conrad [I] Comte de Luxembourg. If that is correct, this shadowy [second] husband may have been the uncle or great-uncle of the cousins Otto and Wilhelm who are named above and who would have inherited the title after his death. If Clementia was dowager countess of Gleiberg, maybe continuing to hold part of the county as dower from her [second] husband, this would explain the necessity of her acting jointly with her nephews in the 1129 and 1141 documents. If all this speculation is correct, the consent given in the joint interest in the property in question held by Gertrud von Northeim and her daughter may provide an indication of the family origin of Clementia herself: maybe she was Gertrud´s maternal aunt, a member of the Braunschweig family? [firstly] [as his first wife,] CONRAD [I] Comte [de Luxembourg], son of GISELBERT Graf von Salm, Comte [de Luxembourg] & his wife --- (-in Palestine 8 Aug 1086, bur Luxembourg Münster Abbey). [m [secondly] --- Graf von Gleiberg, son of ---.] [m [secondly/thirdly] [as his second wife,] GERHARD [I] Graaf van Gelre, son of DIETRICH "Flamens" Graf [von Wassenberg] & his wife --- (-before 9 Apr 1138).]"
Med Lands cites:
[114] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Diplomata Belgica, Liber II, XXXV, p. 269.
[115] Vanderkindere, A. (1902) La formation territoriale des principautés belges au moyen-âge (Brussels), Vol. II, p. 357, quoting Bertholot, III, pr. XXXV.
[116] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I, 465a, p. 524.
[117] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I, 465b, p. 524.
[118] Szabolcs de Vajay 'Contribution à l'histoire de l'attitude des royaumes pirénéens dans la querelle des investitures: de l'origine de Berthe, reine d'Aragon et de Navarre', Estudios Genealógicos, Heráldicos y Nobiliarios, en honor de Vicente de Cadenas y Vicent (Hidalguía, Madrid, 1978), Vol. 2, p. 386 footnote 40.
[119] Wyss (1899), Abhandlung über die Schiffenberger Stiftungsurkunden und Fälschungen, pp. 411-98.
[120] Heinemann, O. van (ed.) (1867) Codex Diplomaticus Anhaltinus (Dessau), Teil I, 285, p. 211.12


; Per Genealogy.EU (Poitou 1): “H1. Clementia of Aquitaine, heiress of Longwy, Frau von Gleiberg, *1060, +4.1.1142; 1m: shortly before 1075 Ct Konrad of Luxemburg (+1086); 2m: Ct Gerhard of Geldern (+1134/37)”.13

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Clémence de Poitou: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020902&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Poitou 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/poitou/poitou1.html#G5
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 3 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg3.html
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Poitou 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/poitou/poitou1.html
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermesinde de Longwy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020904&tree=LEO
  6. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 04 February 2020), memorial page for Clémence de Poitou von Wassenburg (unknown–1142), Find A Grave Memorial no. 146462059, citing Wassenberg Wald Friedhof, Waldfeucht, Landkreis Heinsberg, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany ; Maintained by Memerizion (contributor 48072664), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/146462059/cl_mence-von_wassenburg. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Konrad I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064506&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerhard I Flaminius: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120756&tree=LEO
  9. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HOLLAND.htm#GerhardIGelderndied1138B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  10. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LUXEMBOURG.htm#Conraddied1086B
  11. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I30479
  12. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HESSEN.htm#ClemenceGleibergMConradLuxembourg
  13. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, The House of Poitou: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/poitou/poitou1.html#CG5
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde von Luxemburg: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106509&tree=LEO
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermesinde: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027096&tree=LEO
  16. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LUXEMBOURG.htm#Ermesindedied1141
  17. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LUXEMBOURG.htm#GuillaumeIdied11291131
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  20. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, The House of Geldern-Heinsberg: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/holland/geldern.html#AG2

Ruprecht I (?) Graf von Laurenburg1,2

M, #18826, d. 13 May 1154
Last Edited31 Jul 2004
     Ruprecht I (?) Graf von Laurenburg married Beatrix (?) von Limburg, daughter of Walram/Valeran III Paganus (?) Graf von Limburg, Graf von Arlon, Duke of Lower Lotharingia and Jutta van Wassenberg Heiress of Wassenberg, in 1135; Leo van de Pas says m. 1135; Genealogy.EU (Luxemburg 8 and Nassau 1 pages) says m. bef 1135.1,3,2
Ruprecht I (?) Graf von Laurenburg died on 13 May 1154; Leo van de Pas says d. 13 May 1154; Genealogy.EU (Nassau 1 page) says d. bef 13 May 1154.1,2
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Genealogie van het Vorstenhuis Nassau Zaltbommel, 1970 , Dr. A. W. E. Dek, Reference: 12
2. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 107.1

; Gf Ruprecht I von Laurenburg, +before 13.5.1154; m.before 1135 Beatrix of Limburg (+after 1164.)2

; Built the Castle Nassau.1

Family

Beatrix (?) von Limburg d. a 1159

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ruprecht I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00105666&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Nassau 1 page (The House of Nassau): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/nassau/nassau1.html
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 8 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg8.html

Pierre-Guillaume V (VII) "l'Aigret" (?) Duke of Aquitaine, Comte de Poitou1,2,3

M, #18827, b. circa 1023, d. 1058
FatherGuillaume III (V) "le Grand" (?) Duke of Aquitaine, Comte de Poitou1,4,3,5 b. c 969, d. 31 Jan 1030
MotherAgnès (?) de Bourgogne, Princess of Lombardy1,3,6 b. c 995, d. 10 Nov 1068
ReferenceGAV25
Last Edited7 Aug 2020
     Pierre-Guillaume V (VII) "l'Aigret" (?) Duke of Aquitaine, Comte de Poitou was born circa 1023.1,7 He married Ermesinde (?) de Longwy, daughter of Adalbert III (?) Count de Longwy, Duke in Alsasgua, Duke of Upper Lotharingia, in 1041; Genealogy.EU (Lorraine 1 page) says m. ca 1051.2,1,8,3,9
Pierre-Guillaume V (VII) "l'Aigret" (?) Duke of Aquitaine, Comte de Poitou died in 1058 at Poitiers, Departement de la Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France.7,1,10
     GAV-25.

; Pierre-Guillaume V (VII) "l'Aigret", Duke of Aquitaine (1039-58), Ct of Poitou, *1023, +Poitiers 1058; m.before 1041 Ermesinde de Longwy (+after 1058.)7

Family

Ermesinde (?) de Longwy b. c 1025
Children

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume V-VII: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020903&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine1.html#G4
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Poitou 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/poitou/poitou1.html
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume III-V 'Le Grand': http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020504&tree=LEO
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AQUITAINE.htm#GuillaumeVAquitainedied1030B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Bourgogne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020876&tree=LEO
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  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermesinde de Longwy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020904&tree=LEO
  9. [S1677] Peter Stewart, "Stewart email 16 Sept 2004 "Re: Clarification on William III/V and William VI/VIII, county Poitou, Dukes Acquitaine requested"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 16 Sept 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Stewart email 16 Sept 2004."
  10. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 1 page (The House of Lorraine): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine1.html
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Clémence de Poitou: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020902&tree=LEO

Ermesinde (?) de Longwy1,2

F, #18828, b. circa 1025
FatherAdalbert III (?) Count de Longwy, Duke in Alsasgua, Duke of Upper Lotharingia3,2,4,5 b. c 1000, d. 11 Nov
ReferenceGAV25
Last Edited8 Apr 2020
     Ermesinde (?) de Longwy was born circa 1025.6 She married Pierre-Guillaume V (VII) "l'Aigret" (?) Duke of Aquitaine, Comte de Poitou, son of Guillaume III (V) "le Grand" (?) Duke of Aquitaine, Comte de Poitou and Agnès (?) de Bourgogne, Princess of Lombardy, in 1041; Genealogy.EU (Lorraine 1 page) says m. ca 1051.2,7,1,8,9
     GAV-25 EDV-26.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: II 28.3 Ermesinde (?) de Longwy was living in 1058.10

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermesinde de Longwy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020904&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine1.html#G4
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermesinde de Longwy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020904&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adalbert: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120315&tree=LEO
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(UPPER)%20NOBILITY.htm#Adalbertdied1048. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I44750
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume V-VII: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020903&tree=LEO
  8. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Poitou 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/poitou/poitou1.html
  9. [S1677] Peter Stewart, "Stewart email 16 Sept 2004 "Re: Clarification on William III/V and William VI/VIII, county Poitou, Dukes Acquitaine requested"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 16 Sept 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Stewart email 16 Sept 2004."
  10. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 1 page (The House of Lorraine): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine1.html
  11. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Poitou 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/poitou/poitou1.html#G5
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Clémence de Poitou: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020902&tree=LEO

Giselbert II (?) Graf von Salm, Longwy and Luxemburg1,2,3,4

M, #18829, b. 1007, d. 14 August 1059
FatherFriedrich I (?) Graf im Moselgau, sn of Gleiberg1,5,6,7,8,9,2,3 b. c 965, d. 6 Oct 1019
MotherIrmtrud von Lahngau Gräfin von Gleiberg1,10,11,7,8,12,2,3 b. 972
ReferenceGAV25 EDV25
Last Edited19 Nov 2020
     Giselbert II (?) Graf von Salm, Longwy and Luxemburg married Unknown (?);
Her 2nd husband.13,2 Giselbert II (?) Graf von Salm, Longwy and Luxemburg was born in 1007.1
Giselbert II (?) Graf von Salm, Longwy and Luxemburg died on 14 August 1059; Ravilious says d. 1056; Genealogy.EU says d. 14 Aug 1059; Med Lands says d. 14 Aug 1056/59.1,11,2
     ; Per Genealogics:
     “Giselbert was born about 1007, the second son of Friedrich, Graf in Moselgau und Lützelburg. Giselbert was count of Salm and of Longwy, and after the death of his brother Heinrich I in 1047, Giselbert became the reigning Graf von Luxemburg, which he remained until his death.
     “In the first documents referring to Giselbert he is still called 'Giselbert von Longich'. The documents deal mainly with his raids on the archbishopric of Trier. About 1050 Giselbert is mentioned as steward of the Abbey of Saint-Willibrord in Echternach and in summer 1056 as steward of the Abbey of Saint Maximin. He is also mentioned in a document in which the emperor in 1056 redefined the rights and duties of stewards. His position as steward carried with it the responsibility for providing the income of these abbeys. His conflict with Poppon, archbishop of Trier, over the Abbey of Saint-Maximin, was arbitrated by his brother Adalbéron III, bishop of Metz.
     “Giselbert extended his lands further to the north. In 1036 he is called 'Comes de Salmo' in some sources, and 'Comes de Salinis' in others. He could have acquired these titles by marriage. With an unnamed wife he had six children of whom Konrad I, Hermann (the future emperor-elect) and an unnamed daughter would have progeny.
     “In 1050, as the population of the town of Luxemburg had risen considerably, he expanded the town and built a new fortified wall around it.
     “Giselbert died on 14 August 1059.”.3

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, Band III, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1976, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. 106.3

; This is the same person as ”Giselbert of Luxembourg” at Wikipedia, as ”Giselbert de Luxembourg” at Wikipédia (FR), and as ”Giselbert (Luxemburg)” at Wikipedia (IT).14,15,16

; Per Racines et Histoire (Luxembourg): “Gi(se)lbert II de Luxembourg +X 14/08 ~1056/1059 (Italie) comte de Salm, Longwy et Luxembourg (1047) Vogt de Saint-Maximin de Trêves et d’Echternach ép. ?”.17

; According to The Henry Project:
     “Giselbert (of Salm), d. 14 August 1056×9 [Wampach (1935), 414-5 (#282)], advocate of Saint-Maximin, count of Luxemburg, count of Salm. Giselbert appears with his son Conrad in Gesta Treverorum as Giselbertus, count of the castle called Lucelenburc ["... Giselbertus quidam comes de castello Lucelenburc nominato cum filio suo Cuonrado..." Gesta Treveroroum, c. 4, MGH SS 8: 177], and he also appears as count of Luxemburg in the life of abbot Richard of Saint-Vanne ["... auxilio Gisleberti Luzeburgensis comitis ..." Vita Richardis abb. S. Vitoni Virdunensis, c. 9, MGH SS 11: 285], making him the first to appear under that title in an early source [see also Twellenkamp (1991)]. He appears as "comes Giselbertus de Salmo" in a witness list of ca. 1034×6 [Cart. Stavelot-Malmedy, 210 (#100); Wampach (1935), 352 (#248a); also as Giselbertus comes de Salinis in Flandria Generosa, MGH SS 9: 318]. He was named with his two brothers Frédéric and Thierry/Dietrich in a document of their uncle Adalbero dated 10 November 1036 ["... Friderico comite eiusque fratribus Giselberto et Theoderico ...", Wampach (1935), 361 (#249)]. In 1056, he appears as advocate of Saint-Maximin in a document of emperor Heinrch III [Wampach (1935), 404, 410 (#279)].
The Henry Project cites:
** Cart. Stavelot-Malmedy = Jos. Halkin & C.-G. Roland, Recueil de chartes de l'abbaye de Stavelot-Malmedy, 2 vols. (Académie Royale de Belgique, Commission Royale d'Historie 36, Brussels, 1909). 210 (#100)
** MGH SS = Monumenta Germaniae Historica, Scriptores series.8:177; 9: 318; 11:285.
** Twellenkamp (1991) = Markus Twellenkamp, "Das Haus der Luxemburger", in Weinfurter & Kluger, eds., Die Salier und das Reich 1: 475-503.
** Wampach (1935) = Camillus Wampach, Urkunden- und Quellenbuch zur Geschichte der altluxemburgischen Territorien bis zur burgundischen Zeit, I (Luxemburg, 1935). pp. 414-5 (#282); 352 (#248a); 361 (#249); 404, 410 (#279).”.4 GAV-25 EDV-25.

; Per Med Lands:
     "GISELBERT (-14 Aug [1056/59]). "…Friderico comite eiusque fratribus, Gisilberto et Theoderico…" were among the witnesses of the testament dated 12 Nov 1036 left by "Adalbero…prepositus S Paulini Treuerensis, dominus de Ruscheio, de Serico, de Sarburch et de Berincastel", who was their paternal uncle[143]. The primary source which confirms that Friedrich was the father of the three brothers has not yet been identified. Graf von Salm: an exchange of property between the abbeys of St Maximin and Malmédy by charter dated 1035 is witnessed by "comes Gislebertus de Salmo"[144]. One version of the Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ names "...Gislebertus comes de Salinis" as one of the brothers of Ogive when recording her marriage[145]. Gade speculates that Giselbert obtained Salm by marriage[146]. Referred to as "comes de castello Lucelinburg" and "Gilbertus Luceburgenses comes", he succeeded his brother in 1047 as Comte de [Luxembourg]. Gade states that he was "a wild, warlike man who seized every opportunity to increase his power", he seized land from the abbeys of Echternach and St Maximin, in the district of Köln and from Poppo Archbishop of Trier[147]. Vogt of St Maximin at Trier and of Echternach. He was killed in an uprising in Italy[148].
     "m [as her second husband,] ---, [widow of ---], daughter of ---. The name of Giselbert's wife is not known. Her two marriages are suggested by the Chronicon of Marianus Scottus which records the election of [her son] “Cuonradi fratrem Herimannum, Heinrici de Lacha fratris filium” as king of Germany[149]. As noted below, this interpretation (by which Conrad Comte [de Luxembourg] and Hermann [anti] King of Germany would have been uterine not full brothers) provides one means of reconciling the two statements in this source which otherwise appear contradictory. In addition, if this hypothesis is correct, this person (whose parentage is unidentified) could have been heiress of Salm, which passed firstly to her second husband during their marriage and secondly, after his death, to her son by her first husband. It should be noted that Gade also speculated that Giselbert obtained Salm through his marriage[150]. The family relationship between King Hermann and Conrad Comte de Luxembourg is also indicated by the Chronicon of Bernold which records the death in 1086 of "Chonradus comes, frater Heremanni regis" while on pilgrimage to Jerusalem[151]."
Med Lands cites:
[143] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I, 308, p. 360.
[144] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I, 306, p. 358.
[145] Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana MGH SS IX, p. 318.
[146] Gade (1951), p. 55.
[147] Gade (1951), pp. 54-5.
[148] Gade (1951), p. 55.
[149] Mariani Scotti Chronicon, 1103/1081, MGH SS V, p. 562.
[150] Gade (1951), p. 55.
[151] Bernoldi Chronicon 1086, MGH SS V, p. 445.2


; Per Genealogy.EU (Luxemburg 3): "B3. Giselbert II, Gf von Salm, Longwy and Luxemburg (1047-59), *1007, +14.8.1059; m.NN."1 He was Comte à Luxembourg between 1047 and 1059 at Luxembourg (now).16

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 3 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg3.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LUXEMBOURG.htm#_ftnref143. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Giselbert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092001&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Frédéric/Friedrich (supposedly "of Luxemburg"): https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/frede000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LUXEMBOURG.htm#dauMKunoOltingen
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Friedrich: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00091999&tree=LEO
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LUXEMBOURG.htm#Fredericdied1019B
  8. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Luxembourg, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Luxembourg.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  9. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Frédéric/Friedrich: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/frede000.htm
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gräfin Irmentrud von Gleiberg: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092000&tree=LEO
  11. [S1769] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 12 Aug 2005: "Re: Count Odo/Cunegonde"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/EG8fUGArHIU/m/Kjp8At_SVwoJ) to e-mail address, 12 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 12 Aug 2005."
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, (Irmtrud) von Lahngau: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092000&tree=LEO
  13. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HESSEN.htm#HeinrichLaachdied1095
  14. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giselbert_of_Luxembourg. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  15. [S4759] Wikipedia - Die freie Enzyklopädie, online https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hauptseite, Giselbert (Luxemburg): https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giselbert_(Luxemburg). Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (DE).
  16. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Giselbert de Luxembourg: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giselbert_de_Luxembourg. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  17. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Luxembourg, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Luxembourg.pdf
  18. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Luxembourg, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Luxembourg.pdf
  19. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg3.html
  20. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hermann: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00104729&tree=LEO
  21. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Konrad I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064506&tree=LEO
  22. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LUXEMBOURG.htm#Conraddied1086B

Sir Lewis Robesart Kg1,2

M, #18830, d. 26 November 1431
Last Edited30 Dec 2012
     Sir Lewis Robesart Kg married Elizabeth Bourchier Baroness Bourchier, daughter of Bartholomew Bourchier 3rd Lord Bourchier and Idoine Lovey, after October 1420; her 2nd husband.1,3,2
Sir Lewis Robesart Kg died on 26 November 1431; dsp.1,3,2
     He was standard-bearer to King Henry V.3

Family

Elizabeth Bourchier Baroness Bourchier b. c 1399, d. 1 Jul 1433

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Berners Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2371] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd edition (n.p.: n.pub., 2011), Vol III: Stafford 9.v: p. 251. Hereinafter cited as Richardson [2011] Plantagenet Ancestry.
  3. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), p. 65. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.

Idoine Lovey1,2

F, #18831
FatherJohn Lovey; per Richardson: "probable daughter"2
Last Edited30 Dec 2012
     Idoine Lovey married John Glevant; her 2nd husband.1,3 Idoine Lovey married Edmund de Brooksburn, son of Sir John de Brooksburn; her 1st husband.1,3 Idoine Lovey married Bartholomew Bourchier 3rd Lord Bourchier, son of John Bourchier KG, KB, 2nd Lord Bourchier and Elizabeth Coggeshall.1,3

Family 1

John Glevant

Family 2

Edmund de Brooksburn

Family 3

Bartholomew Bourchier 3rd Lord Bourchier b. 1374, d. 18 May 1409
Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Berners Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2371] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd edition (n.p.: n.pub., 2011), Vol III: Stafford 9.v: p. 251. Hereinafter cited as Richardson [2011] Plantagenet Ancestry.
  3. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), p. 65. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.

Isabella Doria1,2

F, #18834, d. 1353
FatherBarnabo Doria Signore di Sasello e Logudoro e Patrizio di Genova2,3 b. c 1254, d. c Jun 1325
MotherEliana Fieschi Patrizia di Genova2
Last Edited17 Mar 2008
     Isabella Doria married Manfredo IV del Vasto Marchese di Saluzzo, son of Tomasso I del Vasto Marquis di Saluzzo and Aluigia del Vasto, in 1307; his 2nd wife; Genealogy.EU (Saluzzo 1 page) says m. ca 1308.1,2
Isabella Doria died in 1353.2
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Dictionaire Historique et Genealogique des Grandes Familles de Grece, d'Albanie et de Constantinople, 1999, Paris, Sturdza, Mihail-Dimitri, Reference: 539
2. Genealogie della famiglie nobili di Genova 1971, Bologna., Battilana, Natale, Reference: Doria 38.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabella Doria: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00372361&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Saluzzo 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/italy/saluzzo1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Barnabo Doria: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028043&tree=LEO

Menzia d'Este1

F, #18835
ReferenceGAV21
Last Edited5 Mar 2004
     Menzia d'Este married Giorgio del Vasto Marchese de Ceva, son of Guglielmo II del Vasto Marchese de Ceva and unknown del Vasto.2,1
     GAV-21.

; Leo van de Pas cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 97.1

Family

Giorgio del Vasto Marchese de Ceva d. 1268
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Menzia d'Este: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027228&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Giorgio del Vasto: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027227&tree=LEO

Guérinfrid/Guerinfroi (?) seigneur d'Aumâle1,2

M, #18836, b. circa 970
ReferenceGAV28 EDV28
Last Edited19 Jun 2020
     Guérinfrid/Guerinfroi (?) seigneur d'Aumâle was born circa 970.3
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:635.2

; Per Racines et Histoire (Aumale): “Guerinfrid (Guerinfroi) seigneur d’Aumâle (cité dès 996) Aumale ép. ?”.4 GAV-28 EDV-28. Guérinfrid/Guerinfroi (?) seigneur d'Aumâle was also known as Guenfrui (?) seigneur d'Aumâle.1,2

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Aumale.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guérinfrid: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177497&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I3008
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs puis comtes d’ Aumale & Aumale (Picardie), p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Aumale.pdf
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Berthe d'Aumale: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177496&tree=LEO

Lafracoyh O'Brien1

F, #18837
FatherMuirchertach mac Toirdelbach (?) King of Munster2,3,4,5 b. c 1040, d. 10 Mar 1119
MotherDubheboblaigh (?) of Ossory3,6,5
ReferenceGAV24 EDV25
Last Edited5 Jul 2020
     Lafracoyh O'Brien married Arnulf de Montgomery, son of Roger II de Montgomery 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, seigneur de Montgomery, vicomte of the Hiesmois and Mabile de Bellême, in 1101.1,3,5
     GAV-24 EDV-25.

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 144.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/4:637.3
Lafracoyh O'Brien was also known as Lafracoth of Munster.3

; Per Med Lands:
     "LAFRACOTH . The Annals of Inisfallen record that "Muirchertach Ua Briain made a marriage alliance with the French and with the Norsemen” in 1102[1077]. She is named daughter "of an Irish king named Murchertach" by Orderic Vitalis[1078].
     "m (1102) ARNOUL de Montgommery, son of ROGER Sire de Montgommery, Vicomte d'Hiémois [later Earl of Shrewsbury] & his first wife Mabel d'Alençon. "
Med Lands cites:
[1077] Annals of Inisfallen, 1102.6, p. 259.
[1078] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. VI, Book XI, p, 31.5

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I31623
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Fitzgerald - Earls of Desmond, p. 204. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lafracoth of Munster: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00474900&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, Murtach O'Brien: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00314875&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#LafracothMArnoulMontgommery. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dubheboblaigh of Ossory: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00314876&tree=LEO
  7. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I11115

Hildouin III de Ponthieu comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil1

M, #18838, b. circa 933, d. circa 1009
FatherGuillaume I (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil2 b. c 915, d. c 980
ReferenceGAV30 EDV30
Last Edited30 Sep 2020
     Hildouin III de Ponthieu comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil married Hersende (?); his 1st wife.1 Hildouin III de Ponthieu comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil married Lasseline d'Harcourt; his 2nd wife.2 Hildouin III de Ponthieu comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil was born circa 933.2
Hildouin III de Ponthieu comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil died circa 1009.2
     ; Per Racines et Histoire (de Boubers): “Herloin ou Hilduin III seigneur de Ramerupt et de Montdidier
     ép. ? Hersende (veuve ép. Hilduin III de Ponthieu)”.1 GAV-30 EDV-30.

Family 1

Lasseline d'Harcourt b. c 972, d. 26 Jan 998

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille & Seigneurs de BOUBERS-1, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boubers1.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boubers1.pdf, p. 3.

Hildouin/Gilduin (?) Comte de Breteuil, Vcte de Chartres1,2,3

M, #18839, b. circa 965, d. 18 May 1060
FatherHildouin III de Ponthieu comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil3 b. c 933, d. c 1009
MotherHersende (?)3
ReferenceGAV29 EDV29
Last Edited29 Jul 2020
     Hildouin/Gilduin (?) Comte de Breteuil, Vcte de Chartres was born circa 965.4 He married Emmeline (?) de Chartres circa 1028.5,3
Hildouin/Gilduin (?) Comte de Breteuil, Vcte de Chartres died on 18 May 1060 at St. Vannes, Verdun, France; Racines et Histoire says d. ca 1048.1,3
     Reference: Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 659.1 GAV-29 EDV-29.

; Per Racines et Histoire: "Hilduin (Gilduin) de Breteuil ° ~975 + 16 ou 18/05/1060 (Saint-Vannes ou Verdun) vicomte de Chartres (1019), comte de Breteuil (1048) et de Creil, seigneur du Puiset (28), Maître d’hôtel de France (donations par chartes ; fondation des abbayes de Coulombs (1025) et de Saint-Jean-en-Vallée à Chartres (1036)
     ép. ~1010 Emmeline de Châteaudun (de Chartres) ° ~974 + après 1046 (fille de Foucher, vicomte de Chartres, ou d’Hardouin ?)6"

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gilduin: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164673&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Valois 1 page - de Valois: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/valois1.html
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boubers1.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I31014
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Emmeline (de Châteaudun): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164673&tree=LEO
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs puis comtes de Breteuil, Vicomtes de Chartres, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Breteuil.pdf
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Everard I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164675&tree=LEO
  8. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/cfrachacha.htm#ErardIBreteuildied1061. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adèle de Breteuil: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139715&tree=LEO

Emmeline (?) de Chartres1

F, #18840, b. circa 976
ReferenceGAV29 EDV29
Last Edited29 Jul 2020
     Emmeline (?) de Chartres was born circa 976.2 She married Hildouin/Gilduin (?) Comte de Breteuil, Vcte de Chartres, son of Hildouin III de Ponthieu comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil and Hersende (?), circa 1028.3,1
     ; Per Racines et Histoire: "Hilduin (Gilduin) de Breteuil ° ~975 + 16 ou 18/05/1060 (Saint-Vannes ou Verdun) vicomte de Chartres (1019), comte de Breteuil (1048) et de Creil, seigneur du Puiset (28), Maître d’hôtel de France (donations par chartes ; fondation des abbayes de Coulombs (1025) et de Saint-Jean-en-Vallée à Chartres (1036)
     ép. ~1010 Emmeline de Châteaudun (de Chartres) ° ~974 + après 1046 (fille de Foucher, vicomte de Chartres, ou d’Hardouin ?)4"

GAV-29 EDV-29.

Reference: Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 659.3 Emmeline (?) de Chartres was also known as Emmeline (?) de Châteaudun.3,4 She was living in 1037.3

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boubers1.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I31015
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Emmeline (de Châteaudun): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164673&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs puis comtes de Breteuil, Vicomtes de Chartres, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Breteuil.pdf
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Everard I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164675&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/cfrachacha.htm#ErardIBreteuildied1061. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adèle de Breteuil: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139715&tree=LEO