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     Beatrix (?) Countess of Hainaut was born circa 998 at Hainaut, France.⁵ She married Ebles I “Fortis” de Roucy Count of Rheims & Roucy, son of Ebalus/Ebles (?) de Poitou,
; her 1st husband.^5,6,2
Beatrix (?) Countess of Hainaut died between 1016 and 1092; date is WFT estimate.⁵ She and Ebles I “Fortis” de Roucy Count of Rheims & Roucy were divorced before 1021.² Beatrix (?) Countess of Hainaut married Manasses (?) de Ramerupt
; her 2nd husband.²
     Beatrix (?) Countess of Hainaut was Countess of Hainault at Hainaut, France. GAV-26 EDV-27 GKJ-27.

     Alberade (?) of Mons () married Reginar/Regnier I "Langhals" (?) graf im Hennegau, duc de Lotharingie, son of Giselbert II (?) Graf im Maasgau, Gf im Lommegau and Ermengarde/Irmgard (?) de Lotharingie, Dss of Mosselle.^1,2,3
Alberade (?) of Mons () was born circa 870 at France.⁴
Alberade (?) of Mons () died in 916.¹
     GAV-29 EDV-29 GKJ-30.

     Renaud De Creil was born in 970 at Creil, Oise, France.¹
Renaud De Creil died circa 1047.¹
     GAV-27 EDV-27 GKJ-28.

     Baudouin I de Clermont Comte was born in 965 at Clermont, Oise, France.¹
     GAV-27 EDV-27 GKJ-28.

     Hilduin/Herloin II (?) Comte d'Arcis-sur-Aube married Halvise (?) de Laon.¹
Hilduin/Herloin II (?) Comte d'Arcis-sur-Aube was born circa 960 at Montdidier, Somme, France; Genealogics says b. ca 960; Weis says b. ca 950.^2,3
Hilduin/Herloin II (?) Comte d'Arcis-sur-Aube died before 1000.³
      ; Per Weis: “Hilduin I (or II), b. abt. 950, d. bef. 1000.”.³

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 676.² GAV-27.

; This is the same person as ”Hilduin II, Count of Arcis-sur-Aube” at Wikipedia.⁶

; Per Racines et Histoire (de Boubers): “Herloin ou Hilduin II comte d’Arcis-sur-Aube
     ép. Halvise de Laon”.⁵
; NB: The lineage of the Comtes de Montdidier and Seigneurs de Ramerupt is confusing to me. So far, I have consulted four sources: Racines et Histoire, Genealogics, Med Lands, and Weis. They do not appear consistent with each other. The common point in all lineages is the marriage of a Hilduin (de Ponthieu/de Montdidier) and an Alix/Adèle/lice/Adelaide (de Roucy), dau. of Ebles Comte de Roucy and Beatrix de Hainaut.

I. Racines et Histoire (Montdidier, Ramerupt) is the longest lineage offered in terms of number of generations, but cites no sources. The five of generations to arrive at the common couple of Hilduin and Alix is as follows:
II. Racines et Histoire (de Boubers) shows how confusion between given names (Helgaud, Herloin/Herluin, Hilduin) and title (Ponthieu, Montreuil, Ramerup) could lead to further confusion:
III. Racines et Histoire (Ponthieu-Montreuil) again shows how a confusion between names (Helgaud, Herloin/Herluin, Hilduin) and title (Ponthieu, Montreuil, Ramerup) could lead to confusion.:
IV. Genealogics differs significantly from the Racines et Histoire lineage. It offers only four generation to the CP and cites the same Europäische Stammtafeln table for all relationships (3:676):
V. Med Lands shows all of the primary individuals listed by Genealogy, but is somewhat uncertain in attributing fathers to son for the first three generations. No predecessor is shown to generation III.1:
VI. Weis, in a new line added to the 8th edition, shows:
Conclusion: I can't resolve all of the variation in these lineages, but I am convinced that some of the confusion may relate to the use of the name Herluin and Hildouin in so many families (that on occasion intermarried) and possible confusion between the Ponthieu, Montreuil, Boulogne and Ramerupt titles. In effort to resolve the ancestry of Hilduin** who m. Adele**, I posted a query on soc.genealogy.medieval, and received the following useful reply from Peter Stewart:
My query also elicited the comment from P. J. Evans: "Moriarty's manuscript ... says that the early generations are "unclear""

VII. The Stewart & Evans comments imply the following:
     The Weis and Genealogics lineages are close to being consistent to the "known" facts outlined by Stewart. The partial consistency in generations 3, 4 and 5 between Genealogics and Med Lands encourages me to accept those three generations as likely on track. However, the major differences between the three Racine et Histoire lineages and the other three sources leave me too confused to draw a clear conclusion. (Peter Steward completely rejects Racines et Histoire as a source). In its discussion of the Comtes de Montreuil, Med Lands shows individuals who correspond to Racine et Histoire's (Montdidier) and R&H (Ponthieu) first three generations (I.1 - I.3 and III.1 - III.3), but shows no children for I.3/III.3 Roger and makes no connection to the Seigneurs de Ramerupt line shown by Genealogics and Med Lands. I have amended my database to be reasonably consistent with the Weis, Genealogics, and Stewart lineages, but have not yet completely severed connections to earlier generations. GA Vaut.^{4,7,8,9,10,11,5,12,13}

; He made a pilgrimage to Jerusalem.¹⁴

     Regnier IV (?) comte de Hainaut et de Mons was born after 947 at Hainaut, France; Genealogy.EU (Brabant 1 page) says b. aft 947.^2,7,3 He married Hedwige/Adwige (?) Princess of France, daughter of Hugues Capet (?) Cte de Paris, Duc de France, King of France and Adélaïde/Aelis (?), circa 996
; her 1st husband.^2,8,3,9,4
Regnier IV (?) comte de Hainaut et de Mons died circa 1013.^7,1,2,3
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "REGINAR [IV], son of REGINAR [III] Comte de Hainaut & his wife Adela [von Dachsburg] (after 947-1013). The Annales Hanoniæ name "Raginerus" as son of "secundi Ragineri"[100]. The Gesta Episcorum Cameracensium records that "Rainerus atque Lantbertus, filii…Raineri", who had been banished by "archiepiscopus Bruno", returned to their father's lands after the death of Emperor Otto I and besieged "super Hagnam fluvium castrum Bussud", but that Emperor Otto II ordered their exile again[101]. The Annales Leodienses, Floressienses et Marchianenses record that "Raginerus et Lantbertus" (sons of Reginar [III] Comte de Hainaut) returned from exile in 973 and killed "Guarnero et Rainaldo", who occupied their father's county, "apud Perronam" and besieged "super Hagnam fluvium castello Buxude"[102]. Thietmar records that "Lantbertus, Reinherii filius…cum fratre…Reingerio" killed "Wirinharium et eius germanum Reinzonem"[103]. Sigebert's Chronica records that in 977 "filii Ragineri" were "in terra partum suorum relocati"[104], which presumably marked the beginning of their rehabilitation. Archbishop Egbert donated property "de beneficio Luthardi comitis…mortuo sine herede" to St Paul at Trier by charter dated 981, subscribed by "…Regeneri rerum S Marie advocatis…"[105], although it is not known whether this is the same Reginar. A letter of Gerbert dated to [985] names "comes Reinharius"[106]. It is not clear from the context whether this refers to Reginar, son of Gozelon (see LOWER LOTHARINGIAN NOBILITY), or Reginar [IV] Comte de Hainaut. However, a later letter names "Hainao Reniero"[107] which suggests that the latter is correct. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "comes Raginerus" captured "Montem castri" from "comiti Godefrido" in 998[108], from which time REGINAR [IV] can properly be described as Comte de Hainaut, Comte de Mons. The Miracula S. Gisleni date one of the events recorded to "tempore Arnulfi et Raineri comitum…Hainacensium"[109], which suggests that Arnoul continued to enjoy some jurisdictional rights in the county of Hainaut even after the restoration of Comte Reginar [IV]. As shown below in Chapter 2, it is assumed that this was in the march of Valenciennes. "Raginero comite…et Hathuidis coniunx eius" donated property at Gion to Gembloux by charter dated to [1013][110]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1013 of "in Haynico…comite Raginero Montense"[111].
     "m ([996]) HEDWIGE [Avoie] de France, daughter of HUGUES Capet King of France & his wife Adelais d'Aquitaine ([969][112]-after 1013). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Robertum regem et filiam Hadevidem…comitissam Hainonensium" as the children of King Hugues[113]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines also names "soror regis Roberti Hadwidis" as wife of "Rainero comiti de Hainaco, fratri Lamberti comitis de Lovanio"[114]. Sigebert's Chronica records in 977 that "Raginerus" married "Hathuidem filiam Hugonis postea regis"[115]. "Comes Raginerus et Hathuidis coniux" are named in the Gesta of Gembloux Abbey[116]. Her brother gave her the towns of Couvin, Fraisne, Nîme, Eve and Bens (all now in Belgium) as her dowry on her marriage. "Raginero comite…et Hathuidis coniunx eius" donated property at Gion to Gembloux by charter dated to [1013][117]. "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" took into his protection the abbey of Florennes founded by "Gerardus…in primis meus capellanus postea…Cameracensis episcopus effectus et fratres sui Godefridus et Arnulphus" by charter dated 1018, which refers to earlier donations of property by "comitissa Hawidis, annuentibus filiis suis comite Raginero et Lamberto"[118]. "Chuonradus…Romanorum imperator augustus" confirmed the foundation of Florennes abbey by charter dated 1033, which records among others the donation of "comitissa Hadegundis, annuentibus comite Raginero et Lamberto filiis suis…in Prona sita in pago Haynomensi"[119]. The identity of "comitissa Hawidis/Hadegundis", and therefore the existence of Lambert supposed brother of Reginar [V] Comte de Hainaut, is not certain. Hedwige, wife of Reginar [IV] Comte de Hainaut, is the most obvious candidate. If this is correct, the donation must have been made after her husband's death in 1013 as he is not named in the document. The other possibility is that she was the mother of Reginar [IV] Comte de Hainaut and his brother Lambert [I] Comte de Louvain. However, the name of the wife of their father, Reginar [III], is recorded elsewhere as Adela (see BRABANT). "
Med Lands cites: GAV-26 EDV-27 GKJ-27. He was Count of Hainault between 973 and 1013 at Hainaut, France.³

     Hedwige/Adwige (?) Princess of France was born circa 969 at France.^1,5 She married Regnier IV (?) comte de Hainaut et de Mons, son of Régnier III de Hainaut Duke of Upper Lorraine, Comte de Hainaut and Adele von Dachsburg, circa 996
; her 1st husband.^8,1,2,5,9 Hedwige/Adwige (?) Princess of France married Hugues III (?) Cte de Dasbourg
; her 2nd husband.¹
Hedwige/Adwige (?) Princess of France died after 1013.^1,2,5
     GAV-26 EDV-26.

; Per Med Lands:
     "HEDWIGE [Avoie] de France ([969][161]-after 1013). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Robertum regem et filiam Hadevidem…comitissam Hainonensium" as the children of King Hugues[162]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines also names "soror regis Roberti Hadwidis" as wife of "Rainero comiti de Hainaco, fratri Lamberti comitis de Lovanio"[163]. Sigebert's Chronica records in 977 that "Raginerus" married "Hathuidem filiam Hugonis postea regis"[164]. "Comes Raginerus et Hathuidis coniux" are named in the Gesta of Gembloux Abbey[165]. Her brother gave her the towns of Couvin, Fraisne, Nîme, Eve and Bens [all now in Belgium] as her dowry on her marriage. "Raginero comite…et Hathuidis coniunx eius" donated property at Gion to Gembloux by charter dated to [1013][166]. "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" took into his protection the abbey of Florennes founded by "Gerardus…in primis meus capellanus postea…Cameracensis episcopus effectus et fratres sui Godefridus et Arnulphus" by charter dated 1018, which refers to earlier donations of property by "comitissa Hawidis, annuentibus filiis suis comite Raginero et Lamberto"[167]. "Chuonradus…Romanorum imperator augustus" confirmed the foundation of Florennes abbey by charter dated 1033, which records among others the donation of "comitissa Hadegundis, annuentibus comite Raginero et Lamberto filiis suis…in Prona sita in pago Haynomensi"[168]. The identity of "comitissa Hawidis/Hadegundis", and therefore the existence of Lambert, supposed brother of Reginar [V] Comte de Hainaut, is not certain. Hedwige, wife of Reginar [IV] Comte de Hainaut, is the most obvious candidate. If this is correct, the donation must have been made after her husband's death in 1013 as he is not named in the document. The other possibility is that the donor was the mother of Reginar [IV] Comte de Hainaut and his brother Lambert [I] Comte de Louvain. However, the name of the wife of their father, Reginar [III] Graf im Maasgau, is recorded elsewhere as Adela (see BRABANT).
     "m ([996]) REGINAR IV Comte de Hainaut, son of REGINAR [III] Graf im Maasgau & his wife Adela [von Dachsburg] (after 947-1013)."
Med Lands cites: Hedwige/Adwige (?) Princess of France was also known as Hathuide.¹⁰

Reference: Weis [1992:128] Line 144A.¹¹

     Isabel de Bruce married Sir John fitz Marmaduke of Horden.^5,6,2

      ; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936, Doubleday, H. A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VIII 268.² Isabel de Bruce was also known as Isabel Bruce.²

     Joan Basset was born at Wellington, England.¹ She was born in 1114 at Wellingford, Oxfordshire, England.²

     Clémence/Clementia de Bar Comtesse de Dammartin married NN de Dammartin Comte de Dammartin
;
Her 1st husband.⁸ Clémence/Clementia de Bar Comtesse de Dammartin was born circa 1110 at Dammartin, Seine-Et-Marne, France; Genealogics says b. ca 1110; Med Lands says b. 1123/27.^1,9,6 She married Renaud II/III (?) Cte de Clermont-en-Beauvais,, son of Hugues II de Creil dit «de Mouchy» (?) Seigneur de Mouchy, Comte de Clermont-en-Beauvaisis and Marguerite de Montdidier of Roucy, in 1135
;
Her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife.^1,10,11,5 Clémence/Clementia de Bar Comtesse de Dammartin married Thibaut III "Le Riche" (?) de Crépy, seigneur de Nanteuil-Le-Haudouin, son of Thibaut II (?) de Crépy and Mathilde (?), circa 1153
;
Her 2nd husband.^{1,5,12,13,14,2}
Clémence/Clementia de Bar Comtesse de Dammartin died after 20 January 1182/83.^1,2,14,5,6
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:653; 6:147.⁵ GAV-23 EDV-23. Clémence/Clementia de Bar Comtesse de Dammartin was also known as Clemence de Bar-le-Duc.¹⁵

; Per Racines et Histoire (Baf): “2) Clémence de Bar ° ~1110 + après 20/01/1183
     ép.1) ~1140 Renaud II, comte de Clermont-enBeauvaisis ° ~1075 + avant 1162 (fils d’Hugues de Clermont dit «de Mouchy» et de Marguerite de Montdidier)
     ép. 2) Thibaud III de Crépy , seigneur de NanteuilLe-Haudouin + avant 20/01/1183”.²

; Per Genealogy.EU (Bar 1): “C6. [2m.] Clementia, *ca 1110, +after 20.1.1183; 1m: ca 1140 Cte Renaud II de Clermont (+ca 1162); 2m: Thibaut de Crepy”.¹⁶

; Per Med Lands:
     "CLEMENCE de Bar ([1123/27]]-after 20 Jan 1183). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis records that "comes Rainaldus [de Claromonte]" married "comitissam de Dammartin, filiam comitis Rainaldi de Monzuns"[165]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to "comites de Claromonte Belvacensi" as descended from "una…sorore eiusdem comitis [=comes Barri iunior Raynaldus]"[166]. Her birth date range is estimated based on the date of her parents' marriage. Renaud’s second wife would presumably have held the title “Ctss de Dammartin” through an earlier marriage to a comte de Dammartin. If she had been the daughter of a comte de Dammartin, she would not have borne the comital title. [“Radulfus Oysardi filius” donated property at Creil to Saint-Leu d’Esserent, and the nuns obtained the consent of "comitem Rainaldum Claromontensem…uxor eius Clementia, filia…ipsius Margarita", by charter dated to [1119][167]. The dating of this document is problematic: while the presence of Marguerite suggests that she was still unmarried, the date is inconsistent with the estimated birth date of Clémence. It should be noted that Mathon dates the consent given by Comte Renaud to [1153], although he does not state why he says this[168]. If that dating is correct, the witness would have been Renaud’s daughter Marguerite by his second marriage, although it is unclear why she would have been singled out for giving consent without her brothers and sisters.] Louis VII King of France confirmed what “episcopus Parisiensis et Guillelmus Lupus frater eius et comes Damni-Martini Renaudus cum uxore sua” donated to Chaalis “per concessum Adelizæ de Bulis et filiorum eius Lancelini...et fratrum suorum” and the donation of land “apud Hermenovillam et...moriens juxta Villam-novam” made by “Joscelinus de Damno-Martino”, by charter dated 1138[169]. The property the subject of the first-named donation is not specified in the charter. However, a possibly linked charter dated to [1137] records that “Willelmus Lupus Silvanectensis” donated “locum...in quo situm est cœnobium...[et] usum totius Espioniæ et Beeley”, with the support of “uxore mea Adelvia, filioque meo majore...Guidone” and sealed by “fratris mei Stephani Parisiensis episc.”[170]. The charter dated 1138 also provides a possible indication of Clémence’s family origin: the joint donation suggests a joint interest in the property donated, and so a connection with the family of the bouteillers de Senlis (to which Guillaume “le Loup” and his brother Etienne Bishop of Paris belonged). A charter dated 1144 confirmed a donation by "Rainaldus Claromontensis comes" to Saint-Leu d’Esserent, with the consent of "Clementia uxor prædicti comitis cum filio suo Guidone"[171]. An undated charter records the grant of pasturage rights "ad castrum Claromontis, Credulii, Gornaci, Lusarchiarum" to Saint-Leu d’Esserant by "Hugo comes Cestrensis" and "Hugo Claromontensis et Margarita uxor eius", later confirmed by "Rainaldus comes" with the consent of "uxore eius Clementia et filiis eius Guidone et Rainaldo"[172]. "Rainaldus comes de Claromonte et Clemencia uxor eius et Widdo eorum filius" confirmed donations to Saint-Leu d’Esserant made by "Albericus…Paganus…comites de Donno Martino…pater suus Hugo de Claromonte et Margarita uxor eius et comites Cestrences Hugo et Richardus", on the advice of "uxoris meæ Adæ", by charter dated 1152[173]. Louvet notes a donation to the priory of Gournay-sur-Aronde made by “Rainal Comte de Clermont et Clemence sa femme” which was confirmed and supplemented in 1165 by “leurs enfans...Raoult Comte de Clermont, Simon, Gautier, Margueritte, Matilde et Comtesse”[174]. Louis VII King of France confirmed an agreement between Eudes Prior of Saint-Denis and "Donni Martini comitissam Clementiam" who relinquished rights “in Trenbleio” by charter dated 1153[175]. Mathieu quotes a charter of Manassès Bishop of Meaux, dated to [1157], which records property first donated to Chaalis by “Domnimartini comitissa Clementia, laudante viro suo Renaldo de Clarimonte” as well as her donation of rights of way and use of wood “in omnia terra” belonging to “consulatum Domnimartini”[176]. “Clementia comitissa de Domno Martino cum liberis meis” renounced rights over “villa Trembliaco” after disputes between the abbey of Saint-Denis and “antecessores nostros comites de Dompno Martino”, litigated before “regis Ludovici”, by undated charter (dated to [1153/62]), witnessed by “Ansoldus de Claromonte et Petrus nepos eius, Galterus de Alneto...”[177]. [Duchesne states that Thibaut [III] de Nanteuil married “Clemence veuve de Renaut Comte de Clairmont en Beauvoisin” by whom he had three children, but does not cite the corresponding primary source[178]. The primary source which confirms this third marriage has not yet been identified, and from a chronological point of view it appears unlikely to be correct particularly as she is supposed to have had children by her third husband.]
     "m firstly --- Comte de Dammartin, son of ---.
     "m secondly ([1135]) as his second wife, RENAUD Comte de Clermont [en-Beauvaisis], son of HUGUES de Clermont [en-Beauvaisis] dit de Mouchy & his wife Marguerite de Montdidier (-[1152/53]).
     "[m thirdly THIBAUT [III] de Crépy Seigneur de Nanteuil-le-Haudouin, son of THIBAUT [II] de Crépy & his wife Elisabeth --- (-before 20 Jan 1183).]"
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Clermont-en-Beauvais): “Renaud II de Clermont ° ~1075/78 + avant 1162 (~1152/56/61 ?) 1er comte de Clermont-en-Beauvaisis(1101/03, par Philippe 1er, aux droits de sa femme), seigneur de la moitié de Luzarches, croisé (1099, avec Adhémar, Evêque du Puy)
     ép. 1) ~1102/03 Adélaïde (Alix) comtesse de Vermandois, Valois et Crépy ° ~1062/65 + 28/09/1124 (Meulan) (fille d’Herbert IV de Vermandois et d’Adèle de Valois (ou Ermentrude ?) ; veuve d’Hugues de France + 18/10/1101/02 (croisé, Tarse, Turquie)
     ép. 2) ~ 1138 (1135, 1140, 1129 ?) Clémence de Bar ° ~ 1115/20/27 + après 20/01/1182/83 comtesse de Dammartin (fille de Renaud 1er, comte de Bar-Le-Duc et de Mousson, et de Gisèle (ou Gillette) de Vaudémont ; veuve de ? de Dammartin + avant 1138 ; ép. 3?) Thibaud III de Crépy, seigneur de Nanteuil-Le-Haudouin (60)) ”.¹⁷
; Per Med Lands:
     "RENAUD [III] de Clermont, son of HUGUES [II] de Creil & his wife Marguerite de Ramerupt (-[1152/53]). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Guido dictus Qui-non-dormit et Hugo Pauper et comes Rainaldus et sorores eorum" as children of "Hugo comes de Claro-monte" and his wife Marguerite[61]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitem Rainaldum" as son of "comiti Hugonis de Claromonte Baluacensi" and his wife Marguerite[62]. Albert of Aix names "…Reinoldus de civitate Belvatiæ…" among those who took part in the siege of Nikaia, dated to mid-1097 from the context[63]. Albert of Aix records that "…Reinaldus de Belvacio…" fought against the Turks at Dorylæum (1 Jul 1097)[64]. "Hugo Clarimontis dns" confirmed his donations to the church of Saint-Germer-de-Flay, with the consent of "filiis meis Rainaldo et Guidone", by charter dated to before Nov 1099[65]. He assumed the title Comte de Clermont [en-Beauvaisis] after his first marriage[66]. [“Radulfus Oysardi filius” donated property at Creil to Saint-Leu d’Esserent, and the nuns obtained the consent of "comitem Rainaldum Claromontensem…uxor eius Clementia, filia…ipsius Margarita", by charter dated to [1119][67]. The dating of this document is problematic: while the presence of Marguerite suggests that she was still unmarried, the date is inconsistent with the estimated birth date of Clémence. It should be noted that Mathon dates the consent given by Comte Renaud to [1153], although he does not state why he says this[68]. If that dating is correct, the witness would have been Renaud’s daughter Marguerite by his second marriage, although it is unclear why she would have been singled out for giving consent without her brothers and sisters.] A charter dated 1144 confirmed a donation by "Rainaldus Claromontensis comes" to Saint-Leu d’Esserent, with the consent of "Clementia uxor prædicti comitis cum filio suo Guidone"[69]. An undated charter records the grant of pasturage rights "ad castrum Claromontis, Credulii, Gornaci, Lusarchiarum" to Saint-Leu d’Esserant by "Hugo comes Cestrensis" and "Hugo Claromontensis et Margarita uxor eius", later confirmed by "Rainaldus comes" with the consent of "uxore eius Clementia et filiis eius Guidone et Rainaldo"[70]. "Rainaldus comes de Claromonte et Clemencia uxor eius et Widdo eorum filius" confirmed donations to Saint-Leu d’Esserant made by "Albericus…Paganus…comites de Donno Martino…pater suus Hugo de Claromonte et Margarita uxor eius et comites Cestrences Hugo et Richardus", on the advice of "uxoris meæ Adæ", by charter dated 1152[71]. Louvet notes a donation to the priory of Gournay-sur-Aronde made by “Rainal Comte de Clermont et Clemence sa femme” which was confirmed and supplemented in 1165 by “leurs enfans...Raoult Comte de Clermont, Simon, Gautier, Margueritte, Matilde et Comtesse”[72]. The charter dated 1153 which records the donation made by his wife and children suggests that Renaud was already dead at that time.
     "m firstly (1103) ADELAIS Ctss de Vermandois, de Valois et de Crépy, widow of HUGUES de France Comte de Vermandois, daughter and heiress of HERIBERT [VI] Comte de Vermandois & his wife Adelais de Valois ([1065]-28 Sep [1120/24]). The De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses names "Odonem et Adelam sororem" as the two children of "comes Herbertus", specifying that the husband of Adela was "Hugoni le Magne" and referring to her second husband "comes de Claromonte", specifying that her daughter by the latter married Charles Count of Flanders[73]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Adelidem comitissam Viromandensium, defuncto priore viro, scilicet Hugone Magno" as wife of "comes Rainaldus [de Claromonte]"[74].
     "m secondly ([1135]) [as her second husband,] CLEMENCE de Bar, [widow of --- Comte de Dammartin,] daughter of RENAUD I Comte de Bar & his wife Gisèle de Vaudémont ([1123/27]-after 20 Jan 1182). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis records that "comes Rainaldus [de Claromonte]" married "comitissam de Dammartin, filiam comitis Rainaldi de Monzuns"[75]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to "comites de Claromonte Belvacensi" as descended from "una…sorore eiusdem comitis [=comes Barri iunior Raynaldus]"[76]. Her birth date range is estimated based on the date of her parents' marriage. Renaud’s second wife would presumably have held the title “Ctss de Dammartin” through an earlier marriage to a comte de Dammartin. If she had been the daughter of a comte de Dammartin, she would not have borne the comital title. [“Radulfus Oysardi filius” donated property at Creil to Saint-Leu d’Esserent, and the nuns obtained the consent of "comitem Rainaldum Claromontensem…uxor eius Clementia, filia…ipsius Margarita", by charter dated to [1119][77]. The dating of this document is problematic: while the presence of Marguerite suggests that she was still unmarried, the date is inconsistent with the estimated birth date of Clémence. It should be noted that Mathon dates the consent given by Comte Renaud to [1153], although he does not state why he says this[78]. If that dating is correct, the witness would have been Renaud’s daughter Marguerite by his second marriage, although it is unclear why she would have been singled out for giving consent without her brothers and sisters.] Louis VII King of France confirmed what “episcopus Parisiensis et Guillelmus Lupus frater eius et comes Damni-Martini Renaudus cum uxore sua” donated to Chaalis “per concessum Adelizæ de Bulis et filiorum eius Lancelini...et fratrum suorum” and the donation of land “apud Hermenovillam et...moriens juxta Villam-novam” made by “Joscelinus de Damno-Martino”, by charter dated 1138[79]. The property the subject of the first-named donation is not specified in the charter. However, a possibly linked charter dated to [1137] records that “Willelmus Lupus Silvanectensis” donated “locum...in quo situm est cœnobium...[et] usum totius Espioniæ et Beeley”, with the support of “uxore mea Adelvia, filioque meo majore...Guidone” and sealed by “fratris mei Stephani Parisiensis episc.”[80]. The charter dated 1138 also provides a possible indication of Clémence’s family origin: the joint donation suggests a joint interest in the property donated, and so a connection with the family of the bouteillers de Senlis (to which Guillaume “le Loup” and his brother Etienne Bishop of Paris belonged). A charter dated 1144 confirmed a donation by "Rainaldus Claromontensis comes" to Saint-Leu d’Esserent, with the consent of "Clementia uxor prædicti comitis cum filio suo Guidone"[81]. An undated charter records the grant of pasturage rights "ad castrum Claromontis, Credulii, Gornaci, Lusarchiarum" to Saint-Leu d’Esserant by "Hugo comes Cestrensis" and "Hugo Claromontensis et Margarita uxor eius", later confirmed by "Rainaldus comes" with the consent of "uxore eius Clementia et filiis eius Guidone et Rainaldo"[82]. "Rainaldus comes de Claromonte et Clemencia uxor eius et Widdo eorum filius" confirmed donations to Saint-Leu d’Esserant made by "Albericus…Paganus…comites de Donno Martino…pater suus Hugo de Claromonte et Margarita uxor eius et comites Cestrences Hugo et Richardus", on the advice of "uxoris meæ Adæ", by charter dated 1152[83]. Louvet notes a donation to the priory of Gournay-sur-Aronde made by “Rainal Comte de Clermont et Clemence sa femme” which was confirmed and supplemented in 1165 by “leurs enfans...Raoult Comte de Clermont, Simon, Gautier, Margueritte, Matilde et Comtesse”[84]. Louis VII King of France confirmed an agreement between Eudes Prior of Saint-Denis and "Donni Martini comitissam Clementiam" who relinquished rights “in Trenbleio” by charter dated 1153[85]. Mathieu quotes a charter of Manassès Bishop of Meaux, dated to [1157], which records property first donated to Chaalis by “Domnimartini comitissa Clementia, laudante viro suo Renaldo de Clarimonte” as well as her donation of rights of way and use of wood “in omnia terra” belonging to “consulatum Domnimartini”[86]. “Clementia comitissa de Domno Martino cum liberis meis” renounced rights over “villa Trembliaco” after disputes between the abbey of Saint-Denis and “antecessores nostros comites de Dompno Martino”, litigated before “regis Ludovici”, by undated charter (dated to [1153/62]), witnessed by “Ansoldus de Claromonte et Petrus nepos eius, Galterus de Alneto...”[87]. [She married [thirdly] Thibaut [III] de Crépy Seigneur de Nanteuil-le-Hardouin. Duchesne states that Thibaut [III] de Nanteuil married “Clemence veuve de Renaut Comte de Clairmont en Beauvoisin” by whom he had three children, but does not cite the corresponding primary source[88]. The primary source which confirms this third marriage has not been identified, and from a chronological point of view it appears unlikely to be correct particularly as she is supposed to have had children by her third husband.] "
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; Per Racines et Histoire (Nanteuil): “1) Thibaud III Le Riche fl ~1150/1182 ° ~1125 + 27/01/1183 seigneur de Nanteuil-Le-Haudouin et du Donjon de Crépy
     ép. ~1153 Clémence de Bar ° après 1112 + après 20/01/1183 (fille de Renaud 1er, comte de Bar, et de Gisèle de Vaudémont ; veuve de Renaud, comte de Clermont-en-Beauvaisis) ”.¹⁴

; Per Med Lands:
     "THIBAUT [III] de Crépy (-before 20 Jan 1183). A charter dated to [1135] records a dispute between the abbot of Cluny and "Theobaldum de Crispeio dominum de Nantholio", witnessed by "Helizabeth uxor eius, Thebaldus filius eius, Henricus nepos ipsius Thebaldi…"[1259]. Seigneur de Nanteuil-le-Haudouin.
     "[m as her third husband, CLEMENCE de Bar, widow firstly of --- Comte de Dammartin and secondly of RENAUD Comte de Clermont, daughter of RENAUD I Comte de Bar & his wife Gisèle de Vaudémont ([1123/27]-after 20 Jan 1182). Duchesne states that Thibaut [III] de Nanteuil married “Clemence veuve de Renaut Comte de Clairmont en Beauvoisin” by whom he had three children, but does not cite the corresponding primary source[1260]. The primary source which confirms this third marriage has not been identified, and from a chronological point of view it appears unlikely to be correct particularly as she is supposed to have had children by her third husband.]"
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; Per Med Lands:
     "--- de Dammartin (-before [1135]). Comte de Dammartin.
     "m as her first husband, CLEMENCE de Bar, daughter of RENAUD I Comte de Bar & his wife Gisèle de Vaudémont ([1123/27]-after 20 Jan 1182). She married secondly ([1135]) as his second wife, Renaud [III] Comte de Clermont, who was Comte de Dammartin, de iure uxoris. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis records that "comes Rainaldus [de Claromonte]" married "comitissam de Dammartin, filiam comitis Rainaldi de Monzuns"[805]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to "comites de Claromonte Belvacensi" as descended from "una…sorore eiusdem comitis [=comes Barri iunior Raynaldus]"[806]. Her birth date range is estimated based on the date of her parents' marriage. [“Radulfus Oysardi filius” donated property at Creil to Saint-Leu d’Esserent, and the nuns obtained the consent of "comitem Rainaldum Claromontensem…uxor eius Clementia, filia…ipsius Margarita", by charter dated to [1119][807]. The dating of this document is problematic: while the presence of Marguerite suggests that she was still unmarried, the date is inconsistent with the estimated birth date of Clémence. It should be noted that Mathon dates the consent given by Comte Renaud to [1153], although he does not state why he says this[808]. If that dating is correct, the witness would have been Renaud’s daughter Marguerite by his second marriage, although it is unclear why she would have been singled out for giving consent without her brothers and sisters.] Louis VII King of France confirmed what “episcopus Parisiensis et Guillelmus Lupus frater eius et comes Damni-Martini Renaudus cum uxore sua” donated to Chaalis “per concessum Adelizæ de Bulis et filiorum eius Lancelini...et fratrum suorum” and the donation of land “apud Hermenovillam et...moriens juxta Villam-novam” made by “Joscelinus de Damno-Martino”, by charter dated 1138[809]. The property the subject of the first-named donation is not specified in the charter. However, a possibly linked charter dated to [1137] records that “Willelmus Lupus Silvanectensis” donated “locum...in quo situm est cœnobium...[et] usum totius Espioniæ et Beeley”, with the support of “uxore mea Adelvia, filioque meo majore...Guidone” and sealed by “fratris mei Stephani Parisiensis episc.”[810]. The charter dated 1138 also provides a possible indication of Clémence’s family origin: the joint donation suggests a joint interest in the property donated, and so a connection with the family of the bouteillers de Senlis (to which Guillaume “le Loup” and his brother Etienne Bishop of Paris belonged). A charter dated 1144 confirmed a donation by "Rainaldus Claromontensis comes" to Saint-Leu d’Esserent, with the consent of "Clementia uxor prædicti comitis cum filio suo Guidone"[811]. An undated charter records the grant of pasturage rights "ad castrum Claromontis, Credulii, Gornaci, Lusarchiarum" to Saint-Leu d’Esserant by "Hugo comes Cestrensis" and "Hugo Claromontensis et Margarita uxor eius", later confirmed by "Rainaldus comes" with the consent of "uxore eius Clementia et filiis eius Guidone et Rainaldo"[812]. "Rainaldus comes de Claromonte et Clemencia uxor eius et Widdo eorum filius" confirmed donations to Saint-Leu d’Esserant made by "Albericus…Paganus…comites de Donno Martino…pater suus Hugo de Claromonte et Margarita uxor eius et comites Cestrences Hugo et Richardus", on the advice of "uxoris meæ Adæ", by charter dated 1152[813]. Louvet notes a donation to the priory of Gournay-sur-Aronde made by “Rainal Comte de Clermont et Clemence sa femme” which was confirmed and supplemented in 1165 by “leurs enfans...Raoult Comte de Clermont, Simon, Gautier, Margueritte, Matilde et Comtesse”[814]. Louis VII King of France confirmed an agreement between Eudes Prior of Saint-Denis and "Donni Martini comitissam Clementiam" who relinquished rights “in Trenbleio” by charter dated 1153[815]. Mathieu quotes a charter of Manassès Bishop of Meaux, dated to [1157], which records property first donated to Chaalis by “Domnimartini comitissa Clementia, laudante viro suo Renaldo de Clarimonte” as well as her donation of rights of way and use of wood “in omnia terra” belonging to “consulatum Domnimartini”[816]. “Clementia comitissa de Domno Martino cum liberis meis” renounced rights over “villa Trembliaco” after disputes between the abbey of Saint-Denis and “antecessores nostros comites de Dompno Martino”, litigated before “regis Ludovici”, by undated charter (dated to [1153/62]), witnessed by “Ansoldus de Claromonte et Petrus nepos eius, Galterus de Alneto...”[817]. "
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     Gilbert Basset was born in 1090 at Wellingford, Oxfordshire, England.² He married Edith D'Oilly in 1113.²

Gilbert Basset died after 1165.²
     GAV-24 EDV-24 GKJ-24.

     Edith D'Oilly was born in 1094 at Hook Norton, Oxfordshire, England.¹ She married Gilbert Basset, son of Richard Basset, in 1113.¹

Edith D'Oilly died after 1165.¹
     GAV-24 EDV-24 GKJ-24.