William de Lumley1
M, #52652
Father | Sir Robert de Lumley Knt.1 |
Mother | Lucia de Thweng1 b. 1320 |
Last Edited | 29 Dec 2002 |
; a younger son.1
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Scarbrough Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
Robert de Lumley1
M, #52653, b. between 1354 and 1357, d. circa 24 December 1374
Father | Marmaduke de Lumley1 b. 1344, d. 26 Sep 1365 |
Mother | Margaret de Holand1 b. 1352 |
Last Edited | 29 Dec 2002 |
Robert de Lumley was born between 1354 and 1357.1
Robert de Lumley died circa 24 December 1374; died unmarried.1
; the elder son.1
Robert de Lumley died circa 24 December 1374; died unmarried.1
; the elder son.1
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Scarbrough Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
Margaret (?)1,2
F, #52654
Father | Sir James de Harington Knt., of Fishwick, Lancashire2 d. Sep 1417 |
Mother | Ellen Urswick3 b. c 1364 |
Last Edited | 5 Oct 2020 |
Margaret (?) married Sir Thomas de Lumley 1st Lord Lumley, son of Sir John de Lumley Knt. and Felicia Redman.1,2
; Margaret, dau of Sir James Harington.1
; Margaret, dau of Sir James Harington.1
Family | Sir Thomas de Lumley 1st Lord Lumley b. bt 29 Sep 1408 - 1409, d. 1 Apr 1485 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Scarbrough Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Harbottle 13: p. 375. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ellen Ursewick (Urswick): https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00235227&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Lumley: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00205431&tree=LEO
Sir George de Lumley KB, 2nd/3rd Lord Lumley1
M, #52656, b. circa 1445, d. 13 November 1507
Father | Sir Thomas de Lumley 1st Lord Lumley1 b. bt 29 Sep 1408 - 1409, d. 1 Apr 1485 |
Mother | Margaret (?)1 |
Last Edited | 13 Jul 2020 |
Sir George de Lumley KB, 2nd/3rd Lord Lumley married Elizabeth/Jeanne Thornton of Newcastle, daughter of Roger Thornton of Newcastle-upon-Tyne and Elizabeth de Greystoke.1,2
Sir George de Lumley KB, 2nd/3rd Lord Lumley was born circa 1445.1
Sir George de Lumley KB, 2nd/3rd Lord Lumley died on 13 November 1507.1
; Sir GEORGE de LUMLEY, 2nd/3rd LORD (Baron) LUMLEY, KB (1482); b c 1445; Jt Constable Scarborough Castle 1461, Sheriff Northumberland 1461-63 and 1467-71, MP Northumberland 1467, Ld Lt Northumberland 1480-81; made his peace with HENRY VII after Bosworth and was apptd a Commr of Array Yorks late Sept 1485; m Elizabeth, dau and heiress of Roger Thornton, merchant Newcastle-upon-Tyne, by Elizabeth, dau of 4th Lord (Baron) Greystoke, and d 13 Nov 1507.1
Sir George de Lumley KB, 2nd/3rd Lord Lumley was born circa 1445.1
Sir George de Lumley KB, 2nd/3rd Lord Lumley died on 13 November 1507.1
; Sir GEORGE de LUMLEY, 2nd/3rd LORD (Baron) LUMLEY, KB (1482); b c 1445; Jt Constable Scarborough Castle 1461, Sheriff Northumberland 1461-63 and 1467-71, MP Northumberland 1467, Ld Lt Northumberland 1480-81; made his peace with HENRY VII after Bosworth and was apptd a Commr of Array Yorks late Sept 1485; m Elizabeth, dau and heiress of Roger Thornton, merchant Newcastle-upon-Tyne, by Elizabeth, dau of 4th Lord (Baron) Greystoke, and d 13 Nov 1507.1
Family | Elizabeth/Jeanne Thornton of Newcastle d. b 1477 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Scarbrough Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth|Jeanne Thornton, of Newcastle: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165787&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas Lumley: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00057901&tree=LEO
Elizabeth/Jeanne Thornton of Newcastle1,2
F, #52657, d. before 1477
Father | Roger Thornton of Newcastle-upon-Tyne1 |
Mother | Elizabeth de Greystoke1 d. 1440 |
Last Edited | 13 Jul 2020 |
Elizabeth/Jeanne Thornton of Newcastle married Sir George de Lumley KB, 2nd/3rd Lord Lumley, son of Sir Thomas de Lumley 1st Lord Lumley and Margaret (?).1,2
Elizabeth/Jeanne Thornton of Newcastle died before 1477.2
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques, Reference: 915
2. The Genealogist [of London] original series . 2;149
3. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald. Q 99626.2
; Elizabeth, dau and heiress of Roger Thornton, merchant Newcastle-upon-Tyne, by Elizabeth, dau of 4th Lord (Baron) Greystoke.1
Elizabeth/Jeanne Thornton of Newcastle died before 1477.2
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques, Reference: 915
2. The Genealogist [of London] original series . 2;149
3. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald. Q 99626.2
; Elizabeth, dau and heiress of Roger Thornton, merchant Newcastle-upon-Tyne, by Elizabeth, dau of 4th Lord (Baron) Greystoke.1
Family | Sir George de Lumley KB, 2nd/3rd Lord Lumley b. c 1445, d. 13 Nov 1507 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Scarbrough Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth|Jeanne Thornton, of Newcastle: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165787&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas Lumley: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00057901&tree=LEO
Elizabeth de Greystoke1
F, #52658, d. 1440
Father | Sir John de Greystoke Knt., Baron Greystoke, 4th Lord Greystoke1,2 b. b 1389, d. 8 Aug 1436 |
Mother | Elizabeth Ferrers Lady Greystoke, Lady of Wem1,3,2,4 b. c 1393, d. 1434 |
Last Edited | 1 Oct 2019 |
Elizabeth de Greystoke married Roger Thornton of Newcastle-upon-Tyne.1,5
Elizabeth de Greystoke died in 1440.5
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques, Reference: 915
2. Pedigrees Recorded at the Visitations of... Cumberland and Westmorland , Foster, Joseph (ed). 56.5
Elizabeth de Greystoke died in 1440.5
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques, Reference: 915
2. Pedigrees Recorded at the Visitations of... Cumberland and Westmorland , Foster, Joseph (ed). 56.5
Family | Roger Thornton of Newcastle-upon-Tyne |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Scarbrough Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Greystoke 11: p. 363. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers, of Wemme, co. Salop, p. 198. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013332&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Greystoke: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00322246&tree=LEO
Roger Thornton of Newcastle-upon-Tyne1
M, #52659
Last Edited | 1 Oct 2019 |
Roger Thornton of Newcastle-upon-Tyne married Elizabeth de Greystoke, daughter of Sir John de Greystoke Knt., Baron Greystoke, 4th Lord Greystoke and Elizabeth Ferrers Lady Greystoke, Lady of Wem.1,2
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques, Reference: 915
2. The Genealogist [of London] original series . 2;149.3 Roger Thornton of Newcastle-upon-Tyne was merchant at Newcastle-upon-Tyne, England.1
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques, Reference: 915
2. The Genealogist [of London] original series . 2;149.3 Roger Thornton of Newcastle-upon-Tyne was merchant at Newcastle-upon-Tyne, England.1
Family | Elizabeth de Greystoke d. 1440 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Scarbrough Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Greystoke: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00322246&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Roger Thornton, of Newcastle: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00322245&tree=LEO
Margaret Plantagenet1,2
F, #52660, b. circa 1462
Father | Edward IV (?) King of England3,4 b. 28 Apr 1442, d. 9 Apr 1483 |
Mother | Elizabeth Waite3,2 |
Last Edited | 13 Jul 2020 |
Margaret Plantagenet married Thomas Lumley, son of Sir George de Lumley KB, 2nd/3rd Lord Lumley and Elizabeth/Jeanne Thornton of Newcastle.3,2,5
Margaret Plantagenet was born circa 1462.2
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Genealogics:
“The Complete Peerage Volume VIII page 274 questions which Thomas Lumley was married to Margaret. Cahiers de Saint Louis page 880 records that she was mentioned only in a genealogy in the 16th century and that her link is still not certain.”.2 Margaret Plantagenet was also known as Elizabeth Plantagenet.4
; dau of EDWARD IV by Lady Elizabeth Lucy.1
; Per Med Lands:
"ELIZABETH ([1461/64]-). A manuscript pedigree dated to [1500] records that "Thomas Lumley", son of "George Lord Lumley, wedded dau of Richard Thorneton", married "bastard daughter of King Edward IV"[1267].
"m THOMAS Lumley, son of GEORGE Lord Lumley & his wife --- Thornton."
Med Lands cites:
Margaret Plantagenet was born circa 1462.2
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald. P 49814.
2. Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques. 108,880.2
2. Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques. 108,880.2
; Per Genealogics:
“The Complete Peerage Volume VIII page 274 questions which Thomas Lumley was married to Margaret. Cahiers de Saint Louis page 880 records that she was mentioned only in a genealogy in the 16th century and that her link is still not certain.”.2 Margaret Plantagenet was also known as Elizabeth Plantagenet.4
; dau of EDWARD IV by Lady Elizabeth Lucy.1
; Per Med Lands:
"ELIZABETH ([1461/64]-). A manuscript pedigree dated to [1500] records that "Thomas Lumley", son of "George Lord Lumley, wedded dau of Richard Thorneton", married "bastard daughter of King Edward IV"[1267].
"m THOMAS Lumley, son of GEORGE Lord Lumley & his wife --- Thornton."
Med Lands cites:
[1267] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XL, Harleian MS 1074, No. IX, p. 304.4
Family | Thomas Lumley b. c 1462, d. 1505 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), pp. 393-394. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret Plantagenet: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00057902&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Scarbrough Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20Kings%201066-1603.htm#EdwardIVdied1483B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas Lumley: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00057901&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne Lumley: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108042&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sybil Lumley: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165757&tree=LEO
Lady Elizabeth Lucy1
F, #52661
Last Edited | 13 Jul 2020 |
; Per Med Lands:
"EDWARD of York, son of RICHARD Duke of York & his wife Cecily Neville (Rouen 28 Apr 1442-Palace of Westminster 10 Apr 1483, bur St George’s Chapel, Windsor). The Annales of William Wyrcester record the birth 28 Apr 1442 “apud Rothomagum” of “Edwardus filius secundus Ricardi ducis Eboraci et heres, rex Angliæ et Franciæ”, adding that he was “conceptus...in camera proxima capellæ palatii de Hatfelde”[1217]. Questions about Edward's paternity were first raised during his reign and were repeated by his brother Richard who declared him illegitimate on 22 Jun 1483 prior to seizing the throne. The Historie of England by Polydore Vergil records that “Cecyly king Edwards mother...being falsely accusyd of adultery, companyd...of that great injury which hir soon Richard had doon hir”[1218]. The matter even found its way into Shakespeare's Richard III[1219]. It is suggested that his real father was an archer named Blaybourne. Historian Dr Michael K. Jones revealed, in a UK television documentary[1220], evidence from the Rouen cathedral register which indicates that Richard Duke of York was on campaign in Pontoise from 14 Jul to 21 Aug 1441, the period when Edward would have been conceived. This does not of course constitute proof that the duke's absence was continuous throughout the period. In addition, there is no proof that Edward's mother stayed in Rouen throughout the time in question, so she could have joined her husband temporarily on campaign. Created Earl of March [Sep/Dec] 1445. After rebelling with his father, he was also forced to flee at Ludford 13 Oct 1459, arriving in Calais 2 Nov. He was attainted 20 Nov 1459, forfeiting all his titles and honours. He defeated the Lancastrians at Northampton 10 Jul 1460 and captured King Henry VI, whom they brought to London 16 Jul 1460. His attainder and forfeiture were nullified Oct 1460. He succeeded his father 1460 as Duke of York, Earl of Ulster and Earl of Cambridge. He defeated the Earls of Pembroke and Wiltshire at Mortimer's Cross, near Wigmore, 2 or 3 Feb 1461, and marched on London where he was proclaimed EDWARD IV King of England by Parliament 4 Mar 1461. Crowned 28 Jun 1461 at Westminster Abbey. He was deposed in favour of King Henry VI 3 Oct 1470, but restored to the throne 11 Apr 1471. A manuscript calendar records the death “IV Id Apr” in 1483 of “Rege Edwardi iiii”[1221]. The Vitellius A XVI Chronicle records the death “at Westmynster” 9 Apr [1483] of “kyng Edward IV” and his burial at “Wyndesor”[1222].
"m (Manor of Grafton Regis, Northamptonshire 1 May 1464) as her second husband, ELIZABETH Wydeville, widow of JOHN Grey of Groby, daughter of RICHARD Wydeville Earl Rivers & his wife Jacquette de Luxembourg (Grafton Regis [1437]-St Saviour’s Abbey, Bermondsey 8 Jun 1492, bur St George’s Chapel, Windsor). A manuscript pedigree dated to [1500] names "Queen Elizabeth" as daughter of "Richard Earl Rivers" and mother of "The Queen that now is" and of "Thomas Marquess of Dorset"[1223]. A manuscript records the marriage “in festo Apostolorum Philippi et Jacobi” of “rex Edwardus” and “Elizabetham filiam domini de Rivaye et ducisse Bedfordie”[1224]. The Continuation of the History of Croyland records the marriage “privately” of “king Edward” and “the widow of a certain knight, Elizabeth...though she only had a knight for her father, had a duchess for her mother”[1225]. She was crowned Queen 26 May 1465 at Westminster Abbey. Her marriage was declared null and void 25 Jun 1483 by the Act of Parliament “Titulus Regius”, their children becoming illegitimate, but recognised as valid once more Oct 1485 by the first Parliament of King Henry VII.
"Mistress (1): ELEANOR Talbot, widow of THOMAS Butler [son of Ralph Boteler Lord Sudeley], daughter of JOHN Talbot Earl of Shrewsbury & his second wife Margaret Beauchamp (-30 Jun 1468). The Memoirs of Philip de Comines record that the bishop of Bath “discovered to the duke of Gloucester that his brother king Edward” had married (before he married the queen), the bishop performing the ceremony “nobody was present but they two and himself”[1226]. The declaration of nullity of the marriage of Edward IV and Elizabeth Wydeville (25 Jun 1483 by the Act of Parliament “Titulus Regius”) was based on his alleged pre-contract of marriage with Eleanor Butler. The Titulus Regius 23 Jan 1483 (O.S.) records that “King Edward was...maryed...to...Dame Elianor Butteler doughter of the old Earl of Shrewesbury, with whom the same King Edward had made a precontracte of matrimonie...bifore he made the...pretensed mariage with...Elizabeth Grey”[1227].
"Mistress (2): CATHERINE Clarington, daughter of ---. Buck records that King Edward IV had “many mistresses...whereof the most famous was Catharine de Clarington, Elisabeth Wiatt alias Lucy, Jane Shore, the Lady Elianour Talbot” but he cites no primary sources on which he bases this information[1228].
"Mistress (3): ELIZABETH Lucy [Wyatt/Waite], daughter of ---. Buck records that King Edward IV had “many mistresses...whereof the most famous was Catharine de Clarington, Elisabeth Wiatt alias Lucy, Jane Shore, the Lady Elianour Talbot” but he cites no primary sources on which he bases this information[1229]. Thomas More´s biography of King Richard III (dated to [1513]) records that King Edward IV was betrothed to “Dame Elizabeth Lucy, whom the king had also not long before gotten with child”, although it is clear from the context that More is reporting the same incident which other earlier sources indicate involved Eleanor Talbot (see above)[1230]. No earlier primary source has been found in which Elizabeth Lucy/Wyatt is named, nor has any primary source been traced which identifies the mother(s) of King Edward´s three illegitimate children who are shown below.
"Mistress (4): JANE Shore, daughter of ---. Buck records that King Edward IV had “many mistresses...whereof the most famous was Catharine de Clarington, Elisabeth Wiatt alias Lucy, Jane Shore, the Lady Elianour Talbot” but he cites no primary sources on which he bases this information[1231]. Thomas More´s biography of King Richard III (dated to [1513]) records that King Edward IV “had three concubines in whom three diverse qualities differently excelled: one the merriest, another the wiliest, the third the holiest harlot in his realm...the merriest was Shore´s wife [Jane]”[1232]."
Med Lands cites:
"EDWARD of York, son of RICHARD Duke of York & his wife Cecily Neville (Rouen 28 Apr 1442-Palace of Westminster 10 Apr 1483, bur St George’s Chapel, Windsor). The Annales of William Wyrcester record the birth 28 Apr 1442 “apud Rothomagum” of “Edwardus filius secundus Ricardi ducis Eboraci et heres, rex Angliæ et Franciæ”, adding that he was “conceptus...in camera proxima capellæ palatii de Hatfelde”[1217]. Questions about Edward's paternity were first raised during his reign and were repeated by his brother Richard who declared him illegitimate on 22 Jun 1483 prior to seizing the throne. The Historie of England by Polydore Vergil records that “Cecyly king Edwards mother...being falsely accusyd of adultery, companyd...of that great injury which hir soon Richard had doon hir”[1218]. The matter even found its way into Shakespeare's Richard III[1219]. It is suggested that his real father was an archer named Blaybourne. Historian Dr Michael K. Jones revealed, in a UK television documentary[1220], evidence from the Rouen cathedral register which indicates that Richard Duke of York was on campaign in Pontoise from 14 Jul to 21 Aug 1441, the period when Edward would have been conceived. This does not of course constitute proof that the duke's absence was continuous throughout the period. In addition, there is no proof that Edward's mother stayed in Rouen throughout the time in question, so she could have joined her husband temporarily on campaign. Created Earl of March [Sep/Dec] 1445. After rebelling with his father, he was also forced to flee at Ludford 13 Oct 1459, arriving in Calais 2 Nov. He was attainted 20 Nov 1459, forfeiting all his titles and honours. He defeated the Lancastrians at Northampton 10 Jul 1460 and captured King Henry VI, whom they brought to London 16 Jul 1460. His attainder and forfeiture were nullified Oct 1460. He succeeded his father 1460 as Duke of York, Earl of Ulster and Earl of Cambridge. He defeated the Earls of Pembroke and Wiltshire at Mortimer's Cross, near Wigmore, 2 or 3 Feb 1461, and marched on London where he was proclaimed EDWARD IV King of England by Parliament 4 Mar 1461. Crowned 28 Jun 1461 at Westminster Abbey. He was deposed in favour of King Henry VI 3 Oct 1470, but restored to the throne 11 Apr 1471. A manuscript calendar records the death “IV Id Apr” in 1483 of “Rege Edwardi iiii”[1221]. The Vitellius A XVI Chronicle records the death “at Westmynster” 9 Apr [1483] of “kyng Edward IV” and his burial at “Wyndesor”[1222].
"m (Manor of Grafton Regis, Northamptonshire 1 May 1464) as her second husband, ELIZABETH Wydeville, widow of JOHN Grey of Groby, daughter of RICHARD Wydeville Earl Rivers & his wife Jacquette de Luxembourg (Grafton Regis [1437]-St Saviour’s Abbey, Bermondsey 8 Jun 1492, bur St George’s Chapel, Windsor). A manuscript pedigree dated to [1500] names "Queen Elizabeth" as daughter of "Richard Earl Rivers" and mother of "The Queen that now is" and of "Thomas Marquess of Dorset"[1223]. A manuscript records the marriage “in festo Apostolorum Philippi et Jacobi” of “rex Edwardus” and “Elizabetham filiam domini de Rivaye et ducisse Bedfordie”[1224]. The Continuation of the History of Croyland records the marriage “privately” of “king Edward” and “the widow of a certain knight, Elizabeth...though she only had a knight for her father, had a duchess for her mother”[1225]. She was crowned Queen 26 May 1465 at Westminster Abbey. Her marriage was declared null and void 25 Jun 1483 by the Act of Parliament “Titulus Regius”, their children becoming illegitimate, but recognised as valid once more Oct 1485 by the first Parliament of King Henry VII.
"Mistress (1): ELEANOR Talbot, widow of THOMAS Butler [son of Ralph Boteler Lord Sudeley], daughter of JOHN Talbot Earl of Shrewsbury & his second wife Margaret Beauchamp (-30 Jun 1468). The Memoirs of Philip de Comines record that the bishop of Bath “discovered to the duke of Gloucester that his brother king Edward” had married (before he married the queen), the bishop performing the ceremony “nobody was present but they two and himself”[1226]. The declaration of nullity of the marriage of Edward IV and Elizabeth Wydeville (25 Jun 1483 by the Act of Parliament “Titulus Regius”) was based on his alleged pre-contract of marriage with Eleanor Butler. The Titulus Regius 23 Jan 1483 (O.S.) records that “King Edward was...maryed...to...Dame Elianor Butteler doughter of the old Earl of Shrewesbury, with whom the same King Edward had made a precontracte of matrimonie...bifore he made the...pretensed mariage with...Elizabeth Grey”[1227].
"Mistress (2): CATHERINE Clarington, daughter of ---. Buck records that King Edward IV had “many mistresses...whereof the most famous was Catharine de Clarington, Elisabeth Wiatt alias Lucy, Jane Shore, the Lady Elianour Talbot” but he cites no primary sources on which he bases this information[1228].
"Mistress (3): ELIZABETH Lucy [Wyatt/Waite], daughter of ---. Buck records that King Edward IV had “many mistresses...whereof the most famous was Catharine de Clarington, Elisabeth Wiatt alias Lucy, Jane Shore, the Lady Elianour Talbot” but he cites no primary sources on which he bases this information[1229]. Thomas More´s biography of King Richard III (dated to [1513]) records that King Edward IV was betrothed to “Dame Elizabeth Lucy, whom the king had also not long before gotten with child”, although it is clear from the context that More is reporting the same incident which other earlier sources indicate involved Eleanor Talbot (see above)[1230]. No earlier primary source has been found in which Elizabeth Lucy/Wyatt is named, nor has any primary source been traced which identifies the mother(s) of King Edward´s three illegitimate children who are shown below.
"Mistress (4): JANE Shore, daughter of ---. Buck records that King Edward IV had “many mistresses...whereof the most famous was Catharine de Clarington, Elisabeth Wiatt alias Lucy, Jane Shore, the Lady Elianour Talbot” but he cites no primary sources on which he bases this information[1231]. Thomas More´s biography of King Richard III (dated to [1513]) records that King Edward IV “had three concubines in whom three diverse qualities differently excelled: one the merriest, another the wiliest, the third the holiest harlot in his realm...the merriest was Shore´s wife [Jane]”[1232]."
Med Lands cites:
[1217] Annales Wilhelmi Wyrcester, 1442, p. [763].
[1218] Ellis (1844), pp. 184-5.
[1219] William Shakespeare Richard III, Act 3, Scene 5.
[1220] "Fact or Fiction: Richard III", first broadcast in the UK by Channel 4 on 3 Jan 2004.
[1221] Collectanea Topographica et Genealogica, Vol. I (1834), XXXVII (MS. Reg. 2 A. XVIII), p. 278.
[1222] Kingsford (1905), III, VitelIius A XVI, p. 189.
[1223] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XL, Harleian MS 1074, No. 1, p. 296.
[1224] Gairdner (1880), A Brief Latin Chronicle, from MS Arundel 5, College of Arms, p. 180.
[1225] Riley (1854), Continuation of the History of Croyland, pp. 439-40.
[1226] Historical Memoirs of Philip de Comines (London, 1817), Book. V, XVIII, p. 312.
[1227] Rotuli Parliamentorum A.D. 1483 1 Richard III, consulted at (1 Aug 2013).
[1228] Buck (1647), p. 115.
[1229] Buck (1647), p. 115.
[1230] More ([1513]), p. 56.
[1231] Buck (1647), p. 115.
[1232] More ([1513]), p. 49.2
Lady Elizabeth Lucy and Edward IV (?) King of England were associated.3,4[1218] Ellis (1844), pp. 184-5.
[1219] William Shakespeare Richard III, Act 3, Scene 5.
[1220] "Fact or Fiction: Richard III", first broadcast in the UK by Channel 4 on 3 Jan 2004.
[1221] Collectanea Topographica et Genealogica, Vol. I (1834), XXXVII (MS. Reg. 2 A. XVIII), p. 278.
[1222] Kingsford (1905), III, VitelIius A XVI, p. 189.
[1223] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XL, Harleian MS 1074, No. 1, p. 296.
[1224] Gairdner (1880), A Brief Latin Chronicle, from MS Arundel 5, College of Arms, p. 180.
[1225] Riley (1854), Continuation of the History of Croyland, pp. 439-40.
[1226] Historical Memoirs of Philip de Comines (London, 1817), Book. V, XVIII, p. 312.
[1227] Rotuli Parliamentorum A.D. 1483 1 Richard III, consulted at
[1228] Buck (1647), p. 115.
[1229] Buck (1647), p. 115.
[1230] More ([1513]), p. 56.
[1231] Buck (1647), p. 115.
[1232] More ([1513]), p. 49.2
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Scarbrough Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20Kings%201066-1603.htm#EdwardIVdied1483B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN Lucy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00637843&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Edward IV: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00001712&tree=LEO
Thomas Lumley1,2
M, #52662, b. circa 1462, d. 1505
Father | Sir George de Lumley KB, 2nd/3rd Lord Lumley1,3 b. c 1445, d. 13 Nov 1507 |
Mother | Elizabeth/Jeanne Thornton of Newcastle1,4,3 d. b 1477 |
Last Edited | 13 Jul 2020 |
Thomas Lumley married Margaret Plantagenet, daughter of Edward IV (?) King of England and Elizabeth Waite.1,5,3
Thomas Lumley was born circa 1462.3
Thomas Lumley died in 1505; dvp.1,3
; Per Med Lands:
"ELIZABETH ([1461/64]-). A manuscript pedigree dated to [1500] records that "Thomas Lumley", son of "George Lord Lumley, wedded dau of Richard Thorneton", married "bastard daughter of King Edward IV"[1267].
"m THOMAS Lumley, son of GEORGE Lord Lumley & his wife --- Thornton."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; THOMAS LUMLEY; allegedly m Elizabeth, illegitimate dau of EDWARD IV by Lady Elizabeth Lucy, and dvp 1487, leaving, with three other sons and three daus: RICHARD LUMLEY, 3rd/4th LORD (Baron) LUMLEY.1
Thomas Lumley was born circa 1462.3
Thomas Lumley died in 1505; dvp.1,3
; Per Med Lands:
"ELIZABETH ([1461/64]-). A manuscript pedigree dated to [1500] records that "Thomas Lumley", son of "George Lord Lumley, wedded dau of Richard Thorneton", married "bastard daughter of King Edward IV"[1267].
"m THOMAS Lumley, son of GEORGE Lord Lumley & his wife --- Thornton."
Med Lands cites:
[1267] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XL, Harleian MS 1074, No. IX, p. 304.6
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald. P 49813.
2. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard. 338.
3. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938. 2194.
4. Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques. 915.
4. History and Antiquities of the County Palatine of Durham , Surtees, Robert. 2:163.3
2. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard. 338.
3. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938. 2194.
4. Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques. 915.
4. History and Antiquities of the County Palatine of Durham , Surtees, Robert. 2:163.3
; THOMAS LUMLEY; allegedly m Elizabeth, illegitimate dau of EDWARD IV by Lady Elizabeth Lucy, and dvp 1487, leaving, with three other sons and three daus: RICHARD LUMLEY, 3rd/4th LORD (Baron) LUMLEY.1
Family | Margaret Plantagenet b. c 1462 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Scarbrough Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas Lumley: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00057901&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas Lumley: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00057901&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth|Jeanne Thornton, of Newcastle: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165787&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret Plantagenet: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00057902&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20Kings%201066-1603.htm#EdwardIVdied1483B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne Lumley: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108042&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sybil Lumley: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165757&tree=LEO
Sir John Stewart of Pierston1
M, #52665
Father | Sir James Stewart of Pearston1 d. 19 Jul 1333 |
Last Edited | 29 Dec 2002 |
; had issue, one dau.
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stewart of Appin Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
Sir Alan Stewart of Ochiltree1
M, #52666
Father | Sir James Stewart of Pearston1 d. 19 Jul 1333 |
Last Edited | 29 Dec 2002 |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stewart of Appin Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
William Stewart1
M, #52667
Father | Sir John Stewart Lord of Innermeath and Lorn, 1st of Grandtully1,2 d. 26 Apr 1421 |
Mother | Isobel/Isabella de Ergadia1,3 d. 21 Dec 1439 |
Last Edited | 19 Aug 2019 |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stewart of Appin Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John Stewart, Lord of Lorne and Innermeath, 1st of Grandtully: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046285&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabel de Ergadia (MacDougall): https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046286&tree=LEO
Jean Stewart1
F, #52668
Father | Sir John Stewart Lord of Innermeath and Lorn, 1st of Grandtully1,2 d. 26 Apr 1421 |
Mother | Isobel/Isabella de Ergadia1,3 d. 21 Dec 1439 |
Last Edited | 19 Aug 2019 |
Family | Sir David Bruce of Clackmannan |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stewart of Appin Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John Stewart, Lord of Lorne and Innermeath, 1st of Grandtully: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046285&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabel de Ergadia (MacDougall): https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046286&tree=LEO
David Stewart Bishop of Moray1
M, #52670
Father | Robert Stewart 1st Lord Lorn and Innermeath1 d. b 1449 |
Mother | Joan/Margaret Stewart1 |
Last Edited | 29 Dec 2002 |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stewart of Appin Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
Robert Stewart1
M, #52671
Father | Robert Stewart 1st Lord Lorn and Innermeath1 d. b 1449 |
Mother | Joan/Margaret Stewart1 |
Last Edited | 29 Dec 2002 |
; Robert, ancestor of STEWART of Laithes, Aberdeenshire.1
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stewart of Appin Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
(?) Stewart1
F, #52672
Father | Robert Stewart 1st Lord Lorn and Innermeath1 d. b 1449 |
Mother | Joan/Margaret Stewart2 |
Last Edited | 29 Nov 2012 |
(?) Stewart married Sir Robert Erskine 1st Lord Erskine, 13th Earl of Mar, 6th Lord Garioch, son of Sir Thomas Erskine of That Ilk and Janet Keith,
; had issue.1
; per Ravilious: [quote] Thursday, 14 January, 2010
The account in Scots Peerage concerning the career of Sir Robert de Erskine (d.1452) discusses the widely-held position that he married a daughter of Robert Stewart, lord of Lorne, but holds that he married a daughter (evidently named Elizabeth) of David Lindsay, 1st Earl of Crawford [1]. In addition to documentation of a marriage contract stated therein, there is good evidence that this in fact occurred. The supplication for the marriage of Janet Erskine, daughter of Sir Robert, and Walter Stewart, son of Murdoch, Duke of Albany, dated 2 Apr 1421, proves that they were second cousins ("related in the third and third degree of consanguinity"). This would be correct if Janet's maternal grandmother was Elizabeth Stewart, wife of Earl David (of Crawford) and daughter of Robert II, King of Scots [2].
There is however good reason to maintain that Sir Robert Erskine entered into a second marriage, and that this was in fact with a daughter of Robert Stewart of Lorne. The contract of marriage between Erskine and the daughter of David Lindsay, Earl of Crawford (1400) comports well with the birth of their daughter Janet in the range of say 1402 to 1407, and her documented marriage in 1421. However, Sir Robert also had among his issue a daughter Christian, the wife of Patrick Graham, Lord Graham (d. 1466 or later). Christian had children by Graham known to have married in the period 1455 to 1460, but she also had a daughter Elizabeth Graham who was only contracted to marry William Livingston of Kilsyth on 19 Dec 1480, which marriage occurred no later than 1 Oct 1482 [3].
Elizabeth Graham had a large progeny by William Livingston, so it is clear she was not advanced in years at the time of her marriage. If she were born as late as say 1457 x 1462, and her mother Christian Erskine were born as early as say 1415 x 1420, it would not be impossible for Christian to have been a very late birth on the part of Elizabeth Lindsay, and Elizabeth Graham likewise of Christian Erskine. At the same time, the extension of these female generations is not likely: it seems less than probable that Elizabeth Graham would only have been contracted to marry in 1480 when her alleged grandmother (per SP) Elizabeth Lindsay, if alive, would have been approximately 90 years of age, or more.
In addition to the chronological issue, there is a piece of evidence which supports identifying Christian Erskine as the daughter of a 2nd marriage of Sir Robert Erskine, and specifically to a daughter of Robert Stewart of Lorn. Christian's grandson William Graham, Lord Graham and 1st Earl of Montrose, was married in 1479 to Annabela Drummond, daughter of John, Lord Drummond, which marriage required and received a dispensation [4]. The details of the dispensation are not given, but would have been required for a relationship in the 4th degree or closer. Annabela Drummond was (on her mother's side) a descendant of David Lindsay, 1st Earl of Crawford, but if her husband was also their relationship would have been in the 4th and 5th degrees of consanguinity, for which no dispensation would have been required.
Annabela Drummond had on her father's side a great-grandfather, Sir David Murray of Tullibardine, married to Isabel Stewart, stated to have been a daughter of John Stewart of Lorne [5]. If Isabel were in fact a daughter of John's son and heir Robert Stewart, she would have been a sister of the alleged Stewart wife of Sir Robert Erskine. If as held above Christian Erskine was the daughter of Sir Robert Erskine by this Stewart wife, William Graham and Annabela Drummond (married in 1479) would have been related in the 4th and 4th degrees of consanguinity, necessitating the dispensation alluded to.
A chart of the relevant relationships, known and conjectured, is given below. Should anyone have further documentation, comment or criticism, that would be welcome.
1)Elizabeth = Robert II = 2) Euphemia
Mure I K of Scots I of Ross
________I I
I I
Robert Elizabeth
D of Albany = David Lindsay
= 1) Margaret = 2) Muriel E of Crawford
I Graham I Keith I
I I ________________I
I I I
I I______________________
I I
Murdoch I Joanna Stewart
D of I = Robert Stewart of Lorn
Albany I (disp 1397)
I I I_______________
I I I I
I 1) Elizabeth = Robert = 2) NN Isabel
I Lindsay I Erskine I = Sir David
I I I Murray
I _______________I I I
I I I I
I I I I
Walter = Janet Christian Mariota
Stewart Erskine = Patrick Graham = Maurice
(disp 1424) Lord Graham Drummond
I I
I I
William Graham John Drummond
Lord Graham Lord Drummond
= Eleanor/ = Elizabeth
Helen Douglas Lindsay
I I
I I
William = Annabela
Graham Drummond
(disp, marriage 1479)
Notes
[1] SP V:604, sub Erskine, Earl of Mar:
‘ Lord Erskine is usually said to have married a daughter of Robert Stewart of Lorn and Innermeath, but there is good reason to believe that he married the daughter of David, Earl of Crawford, referred to (her name not being given, but it was probably Elizabeth) in an agreement between that nobleman and Sir Thomas Erskine, dated at Brechin 20 December 1400. By that writ it was arranged that Sir Robert Erskine should marry a daughter of the Earl,…’
The account in the Innermeath article [SP V:3] has little detail, but accords with the above.
[2] The translation provided by E. R. Lindsay and A. I. Cameron:
' Dispensatio matrimonialis Walter Steuart of Levenax, Glasgow diocese, and Joneta de Erskyn, daughter of Robert de Erskyn, knight, St. Andrews diocese, - that the Pope would dispense them to contract and remain in matrimony, notwithstanding that they are related in the third and third degree of consanguinity. Fiat et petitur. O. Rome, S. Peter's, 6 Kal. May, anno 4 ' [Lindsay and Cameron, Calendar of Scottish Supplications to Rome 1418-1422, p. 250]
[3] The SP article on the family of Livingston, Viscount Kilsyth says of a previous controversy as to the identification of the wife of William Livingston (slain at Flodden in 1513):
' Two entries in the Stirling MS. Protocols seem to settle the question. The first is the record of an agreement between Thomas, Lord Erskine, and Christina, Lady Graham, on the one hand, and Edward Livingston of Balcastell, on the other, for the marriage of William Livingston, son and heir- apparent of the said Edward and Elizabeth Graham, daughter of the said Christina, dated 19 December 1480. That this contemplated marriage took place, and that the relationship between Lord Erskine and Lady Graham was that of brother and sister, is proved by a later deed, 1 October 1482, which bears that in prosecuting a brief of inquest purchased by William Livingston, son and heir of the late Edward Livingston of Balcastell, anent the lands of Castletown, etc., the procurator of the said William alleged that Lord Erskine (who was Sheriff of Stirlingshire) should not be a judge in serving of the said brief, because he was suspect, the said William having espoused the daughter of his sister. ' [SP V:186]
See also the entry in Abstract of Protocol Book of the Burgh of Stirling, The Scottish Antiquary (Apr 1896) X:167 ['Agreement between Thomas, Lord Erskine, and Christina, Lady Graham, and Edward Leuingstoun of Balnastiel, for the marriage of William Leuingstoun, son and heir-apparent of the said Edward and Elisabeth Grahame, daughter of the said Christina. Page 275]
[4] ' In presence of John bishop of Dunblane, Thomas lord le Erskene, the notary and witnesses, William lord le Grahame on the one part, and Annabella Drummond, one of the daughters of John Drummond of Cargill, on the other part, for marriage to be contracted between them, past to the door of the parish church of Muthyll of the diocese of Dunblane......; asked if they knew any impediment except consanguinity, which had been dispensed with by the said bishop with authority of the Apostolic see.... Present the said lord himself, Thomas lord le Erskyne, Robert Douglas of Lochlevyn, David Grahame of Gargunnok, Master Walter Drummond' etc., 25 Nov 1479 [Renwick, Extracts from the royal burgh of Stirling, p. 265, no. 45]
cf. Abstract of Protocol Book of the Burgh of Stirling, The Scottish Antiquary (Jan 1896) X:137
[5] SP V:2.
[end quote]2
; A dau; m 1st Ld Erskine, and had issue (see MAR & KELLIE, E). He d 1452.1
; had issue.1
; per Ravilious: [quote] Thursday, 14 January, 2010
The account in Scots Peerage concerning the career of Sir Robert de Erskine (d.1452) discusses the widely-held position that he married a daughter of Robert Stewart, lord of Lorne, but holds that he married a daughter (evidently named Elizabeth) of David Lindsay, 1st Earl of Crawford [1]. In addition to documentation of a marriage contract stated therein, there is good evidence that this in fact occurred. The supplication for the marriage of Janet Erskine, daughter of Sir Robert, and Walter Stewart, son of Murdoch, Duke of Albany, dated 2 Apr 1421, proves that they were second cousins ("related in the third and third degree of consanguinity"). This would be correct if Janet's maternal grandmother was Elizabeth Stewart, wife of Earl David (of Crawford) and daughter of Robert II, King of Scots [2].
There is however good reason to maintain that Sir Robert Erskine entered into a second marriage, and that this was in fact with a daughter of Robert Stewart of Lorne. The contract of marriage between Erskine and the daughter of David Lindsay, Earl of Crawford (1400) comports well with the birth of their daughter Janet in the range of say 1402 to 1407, and her documented marriage in 1421. However, Sir Robert also had among his issue a daughter Christian, the wife of Patrick Graham, Lord Graham (d. 1466 or later). Christian had children by Graham known to have married in the period 1455 to 1460, but she also had a daughter Elizabeth Graham who was only contracted to marry William Livingston of Kilsyth on 19 Dec 1480, which marriage occurred no later than 1 Oct 1482 [3].
Elizabeth Graham had a large progeny by William Livingston, so it is clear she was not advanced in years at the time of her marriage. If she were born as late as say 1457 x 1462, and her mother Christian Erskine were born as early as say 1415 x 1420, it would not be impossible for Christian to have been a very late birth on the part of Elizabeth Lindsay, and Elizabeth Graham likewise of Christian Erskine. At the same time, the extension of these female generations is not likely: it seems less than probable that Elizabeth Graham would only have been contracted to marry in 1480 when her alleged grandmother (per SP) Elizabeth Lindsay, if alive, would have been approximately 90 years of age, or more.
In addition to the chronological issue, there is a piece of evidence which supports identifying Christian Erskine as the daughter of a 2nd marriage of Sir Robert Erskine, and specifically to a daughter of Robert Stewart of Lorn. Christian's grandson William Graham, Lord Graham and 1st Earl of Montrose, was married in 1479 to Annabela Drummond, daughter of John, Lord Drummond, which marriage required and received a dispensation [4]. The details of the dispensation are not given, but would have been required for a relationship in the 4th degree or closer. Annabela Drummond was (on her mother's side) a descendant of David Lindsay, 1st Earl of Crawford, but if her husband was also their relationship would have been in the 4th and 5th degrees of consanguinity, for which no dispensation would have been required.
Annabela Drummond had on her father's side a great-grandfather, Sir David Murray of Tullibardine, married to Isabel Stewart, stated to have been a daughter of John Stewart of Lorne [5]. If Isabel were in fact a daughter of John's son and heir Robert Stewart, she would have been a sister of the alleged Stewart wife of Sir Robert Erskine. If as held above Christian Erskine was the daughter of Sir Robert Erskine by this Stewart wife, William Graham and Annabela Drummond (married in 1479) would have been related in the 4th and 4th degrees of consanguinity, necessitating the dispensation alluded to.
A chart of the relevant relationships, known and conjectured, is given below. Should anyone have further documentation, comment or criticism, that would be welcome.
1)Elizabeth = Robert II = 2) Euphemia
Mure I K of Scots I of Ross
________I I
I I
Robert Elizabeth
D of Albany = David Lindsay
= 1) Margaret = 2) Muriel E of Crawford
I Graham I Keith I
I I ________________I
I I I
I I______________________
I I
Murdoch I Joanna Stewart
D of I = Robert Stewart of Lorn
Albany I (disp 1397)
I I I_______________
I I I I
I 1) Elizabeth = Robert = 2) NN Isabel
I Lindsay I Erskine I = Sir David
I I I Murray
I _______________I I I
I I I I
I I I I
Walter = Janet Christian Mariota
Stewart Erskine = Patrick Graham = Maurice
(disp 1424) Lord Graham Drummond
I I
I I
William Graham John Drummond
Lord Graham Lord Drummond
= Eleanor/ = Elizabeth
Helen Douglas Lindsay
I I
I I
William = Annabela
Graham Drummond
(disp, marriage 1479)
Notes
[1] SP V:604, sub Erskine, Earl of Mar:
‘ Lord Erskine is usually said to have married a daughter of Robert Stewart of Lorn and Innermeath, but there is good reason to believe that he married the daughter of David, Earl of Crawford, referred to (her name not being given, but it was probably Elizabeth) in an agreement between that nobleman and Sir Thomas Erskine, dated at Brechin 20 December 1400. By that writ it was arranged that Sir Robert Erskine should marry a daughter of the Earl,…’
The account in the Innermeath article [SP V:3] has little detail, but accords with the above.
[2] The translation provided by E. R. Lindsay and A. I. Cameron:
' Dispensatio matrimonialis Walter Steuart of Levenax, Glasgow diocese, and Joneta de Erskyn, daughter of Robert de Erskyn, knight, St. Andrews diocese, - that the Pope would dispense them to contract and remain in matrimony, notwithstanding that they are related in the third and third degree of consanguinity. Fiat et petitur. O. Rome, S. Peter's, 6 Kal. May, anno 4 ' [Lindsay and Cameron, Calendar of Scottish Supplications to Rome 1418-1422, p. 250]
[3] The SP article on the family of Livingston, Viscount Kilsyth says of a previous controversy as to the identification of the wife of William Livingston (slain at Flodden in 1513):
' Two entries in the Stirling MS. Protocols seem to settle the question. The first is the record of an agreement between Thomas, Lord Erskine, and Christina, Lady Graham, on the one hand, and Edward Livingston of Balcastell, on the other, for the marriage of William Livingston, son and heir- apparent of the said Edward and Elizabeth Graham, daughter of the said Christina, dated 19 December 1480. That this contemplated marriage took place, and that the relationship between Lord Erskine and Lady Graham was that of brother and sister, is proved by a later deed, 1 October 1482, which bears that in prosecuting a brief of inquest purchased by William Livingston, son and heir of the late Edward Livingston of Balcastell, anent the lands of Castletown, etc., the procurator of the said William alleged that Lord Erskine (who was Sheriff of Stirlingshire) should not be a judge in serving of the said brief, because he was suspect, the said William having espoused the daughter of his sister. ' [SP V:186]
See also the entry in Abstract of Protocol Book of the Burgh of Stirling, The Scottish Antiquary (Apr 1896) X:167 ['Agreement between Thomas, Lord Erskine, and Christina, Lady Graham, and Edward Leuingstoun of Balnastiel, for the marriage of William Leuingstoun, son and heir-apparent of the said Edward and Elisabeth Grahame, daughter of the said Christina. Page 275]
[4] ' In presence of John bishop of Dunblane, Thomas lord le Erskene, the notary and witnesses, William lord le Grahame on the one part, and Annabella Drummond, one of the daughters of John Drummond of Cargill, on the other part, for marriage to be contracted between them, past to the door of the parish church of Muthyll of the diocese of Dunblane......; asked if they knew any impediment except consanguinity, which had been dispensed with by the said bishop with authority of the Apostolic see.... Present the said lord himself, Thomas lord le Erskyne, Robert Douglas of Lochlevyn, David Grahame of Gargunnok, Master Walter Drummond' etc., 25 Nov 1479 [Renwick, Extracts from the royal burgh of Stirling, p. 265, no. 45]
cf. Abstract of Protocol Book of the Burgh of Stirling, The Scottish Antiquary (Jan 1896) X:137
[5] SP V:2.
[end quote]2
; A dau; m 1st Ld Erskine, and had issue (see MAR & KELLIE, E). He d 1452.1
Family | Sir Robert Erskine 1st Lord Erskine, 13th Earl of Mar, 6th Lord Garioch d. bt 1451 - 1452 |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stewart of Appin Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2363] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 14 Jan 2010: "Sir Robert Erskine (d. 1452) and his wives"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 14 Jan 2010. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 14 Jan 2010."
- [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 43E-10, p. 63. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5. - [S2363] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 14 Jan 2010," e-mail to e-mail address, 14 Jan 2010, In addition to the chronological issue, there is a piece of evidence which supports identifying Christian Erskine as the daughter of a 2nd marriage of Sir Robert Erskine, and specifically to a daughter of Robert Stewart of Lorn. Christian's grandson William Graham, Lord Graham and 1st Earl of Montrose, was married in 1479 to Annabela Drummond, daughter of John, Lord Drummond, which marriage required and received a dispensation [4]. The details of the dispensation are not given, but would have been required for a relationship in the 4th degree or closer. Annabela Drummond was (on her mother's side) a descendant of David Lindsay, 1st Earl of Crawford, but if her husband was also their relationship would have been in the 4th and 5th degrees of consanguinity, for which no dispensation would have been required.
(?) Maclaren of Ardveich, Perthshire1
F, #52673
Last Edited | 10 Jul 2006 |
(?) Maclaren of Ardveich, Perthshire married Sir John Stewart 2nd Lord of Lorne and Innermeath, son of Robert Stewart 1st Lord Lorn and Innermeath and Joan/Margaret Stewart, in 1463
; his 2nd wife.1,2
; van de Pas cites: Burke's landed Gentry, Reference (1972) 860.2
; dau of Maclaren of Ardveich, Perthshire.1
; his 2nd wife.1,2
; van de Pas cites: Burke's landed Gentry, Reference (1972) 860.2
; dau of Maclaren of Ardveich, Perthshire.1
Family | Sir John Stewart 2nd Lord of Lorne and Innermeath d. 20 Dec 1463 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stewart of Appin Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN Maclaren: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00250417&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
Richard de Lexington1
M, #52674
Reference | GAV25 |
Last Edited | 1 Jul 2006 |
Family | |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Sutton Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Baroness Dudley Family Page.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice de Lexington: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00312620&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
Anne Fairfax1,2,3
F, #52679, d. 1761
Father | Hon. William Fairfax Governor of the Bahamas1,2,3 b. 30 Oct 1691, d. 3 Sep 1757 |
Mother | Sarah Walker2,3 d. 18 Jan 1731 |
Last Edited | 3 Aug 2019 |
Anne Fairfax married Maj. Lawrence Washington, son of Capt. Augustine Washington and Jane Butler, on 19 July 1743.1
Anne Fairfax married Col. George Lee, son of Richard Lee and Martha Silk, on 16 December 1752 at King & Queen Co., Virginia, USA,
; his 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.1,4,5
Anne Fairfax died in 1761.1
; Anne (who m 2nd 16 Dec 1752, Col George Lee, of Mt. Pleasant, nephew of the Hon Thomas Lee, acting Governor of Virginia, and d 1761), eldest dau of the Hon William Fairfax, of Belvoir, President of the Governor's Council in Virginia, and half sis of Bryan, 8th Lord Fairfax (see BURKE'S Peerage.)1
; Anne; m 1st, 10 July, 1743, Lawrence Washington, brother of Gen George Washington. He d 26 July, 1752. She m 2nd, George Lee, of Virginia, and had issue.2
Anne Fairfax married Col. George Lee, son of Richard Lee and Martha Silk, on 16 December 1752 at King & Queen Co., Virginia, USA,
; his 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.1,4,5
Anne Fairfax died in 1761.1
; Anne (who m 2nd 16 Dec 1752, Col George Lee, of Mt. Pleasant, nephew of the Hon Thomas Lee, acting Governor of Virginia, and d 1761), eldest dau of the Hon William Fairfax, of Belvoir, President of the Governor's Council in Virginia, and half sis of Bryan, 8th Lord Fairfax (see BURKE'S Peerage.)1
; Anne; m 1st, 10 July, 1743, Lawrence Washington, brother of Gen George Washington. He d 26 July, 1752. She m 2nd, George Lee, of Virginia, and had issue.2
Family 1 | Maj. Lawrence Washington b. 1718, d. 22 Jul 1752 |
Family 2 | Col. George Lee b. 18 Aug 1714, d. 19 Nov 1781 |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Washington Family Page (based upon new and important material supplied by Mr. S H. Lee Washington, MA, of Trinity Coll, Cambridge). Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Smith (formerly Fairfax) Family Page.
- [S2820] M. D. Edmund Jennings Lee, Lee of Virginia 1642-1892: The Descendants of Colonel Richard Lee with Brief Notices of the Related Families - Allerton, Armistead, Ashton, Aylett, Bedinger, Beverley, Bland, Bolling, Carroll, Carter, Chambers, Corbin, Custis, Digges, Fairfax, Fitzhugh, Gardner, Grymes, Hanson, Jenings, Jones, Ludwell, Marshall, Mason, Page, Randolph, Shepherd, Shippen, Tabb, Taylor, Turberville, Washington, and Others (n.p.: n.pub., 1895), pp. 91-92. Hereinafter cited as Lee [1895] Lee of Virginia 1642-1892.
- [S2820] M. D. Edmund Jennings Lee, Lee [1895] Lee of Virginia 1642-1892, p. 140.
- [S3744] Early Colonial Settlers of Southern Maryland and Virginia's Northern Neck Counties, online <http://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/>, https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I029370&tree=Tree1. Hereinafter cited as Early Settlers of So Md and VA Northern Neck.
Hon. William Fairfax Governor of the Bahamas1,2
M, #52680, b. 30 October 1691, d. 3 September 1757
Last Edited | 8 Oct 2014 |
Hon. William Fairfax Governor of the Bahamas was baptized on 30 October 1691.2 He married Sarah Walker, daughter of Maj. Thomas Walker, on 27 March 1717.2
Hon. William Fairfax Governor of the Bahamas married Deborah Gedney on 28 October 1731
; his 2nd wife, her 2nd husband.2
Hon. William Fairfax Governor of the Bahamas died on 3 September 1757 at age 65.2
He was governor of the Bahamas at Bahamas.2
; William, governor of the Bahamas, and later agent for the Fairfax estates in Virginia; bapt 30 Oct 1691; m 1st, 27 March, 1717, Sarah, dau of Maj Thomas Walker, chief justice of the Bahamas. She d 18 Jan 1731, leaving issue. He m 2nd, 28 Oct 1731, Deborah, dau of Col Bartholomew Gedney, and widow of Francis Clarke, and d 3 Sept 1757, having by her had issue.2 He was President of the Governor's Council in Virginia at Virginia, USA.1
Hon. William Fairfax Governor of the Bahamas married Deborah Gedney on 28 October 1731
; his 2nd wife, her 2nd husband.2
Hon. William Fairfax Governor of the Bahamas died on 3 September 1757 at age 65.2
He was governor of the Bahamas at Bahamas.2
; William, governor of the Bahamas, and later agent for the Fairfax estates in Virginia; bapt 30 Oct 1691; m 1st, 27 March, 1717, Sarah, dau of Maj Thomas Walker, chief justice of the Bahamas. She d 18 Jan 1731, leaving issue. He m 2nd, 28 Oct 1731, Deborah, dau of Col Bartholomew Gedney, and widow of Francis Clarke, and d 3 Sept 1757, having by her had issue.2 He was President of the Governor's Council in Virginia at Virginia, USA.1
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Child |
Family 2 | Sarah Walker d. 18 Jan 1731 |
Children |
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Family 3 | Deborah Gedney |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Washington Family Page (based upon new and important material supplied by Mr. S H. Lee Washington, MA, of Trinity Coll, Cambridge). Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Smith (formerly Fairfax) Family Page.
- [S2820] M. D. Edmund Jennings Lee, Lee of Virginia 1642-1892: The Descendants of Colonel Richard Lee with Brief Notices of the Related Families - Allerton, Armistead, Ashton, Aylett, Bedinger, Beverley, Bland, Bolling, Carroll, Carter, Chambers, Corbin, Custis, Digges, Fairfax, Fitzhugh, Gardner, Grymes, Hanson, Jenings, Jones, Ludwell, Marshall, Mason, Page, Randolph, Shepherd, Shippen, Tabb, Taylor, Turberville, Washington, and Others (n.p.: n.pub., 1895), pp. 91-92. Hereinafter cited as Lee [1895] Lee of Virginia 1642-1892.