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     Elizabeth Ferrers Lady Greystoke, Lady of Wem was buried at Black Friars', Yorkshire, England.⁸ She was born circa 1393 at Owseley; Richardson says "aged 18 in 1411"; Racines et Histoire says b. ca 1392.^8,9,4,5 She married Sir John de Greystoke Knt., Baron Greystoke, 4th Lord Greystoke, son of Ralph de Greystoke 3rd Lord Greystoke and Katherine de Clifford, circa 28 October 1407
; date of contract.^{10,1,3,4,11,5}
Elizabeth Ferrers Lady Greystoke, Lady of Wem was buried in 1434 at Blackfriars Abbey Church, York, York Unitary Authority, North Yorkshire, England; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1393
     DEATH     1434 (aged 40–41)
     Family Members
     Parents
      Joan Beaufort Neville 1375–1440
     Spouse
      John Greystoke 1389–1436
     Siblings
      Mary de Ferrers de Neville 1394–1458
      Eleanor de Neville de Percy 1398–1472
      Katherine Neville Woodville 1399–1478
      Richard Neville 1400–1460
      Richard Neville 1400–1460
      Robert de Neville 1404–1457
      William de Neville 1405–1463
      George Neville, Lord Latimer 1407–1469
      Anne de Neville Stafford 1411–1480
      Edward Neville 1412–1476
      Cecily de Neville Plantagenet 1415–1495
     Children
      Anne Greystoke Bigod unknown–1477
      Ralph Greystoke 1414–1487
      Eleanor de Greystoke Eure 1416–1468
     BURIAL     Blackfriars Abbey Church (Defunct), York, York Unitary Authority, North Yorkshire, England
     Created by: Todd Whitesides
     Added: 11 Dec 2012
     Find A Grave Memorial 102049982.¹²
Elizabeth Ferrers Lady Greystoke, Lady of Wem died in 1434 at York, Yorkshire, England.^8,9,4,5
     EDV-16 GKJ-17.

Elizabeth Ferrers Lady Greystoke, Lady of Wem lived at Wem, Shropshire, England.⁸

; van de Pas cites:
     1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: page 198
     2. Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques, Reference: page 97, 911.
     3. Plantagenet Ancestry of seventeenth-century Colonists 1999, 2nd Edition, Faris, David.
162.⁵

; AR 62-35
* * * * **
Faris (1999, p. 162): "     ELIZABETH FERRERS, heiress of Wem, co. Salop, elder daughter and co-heiress, was born about 1389 (aged twenty-eight and more at father's death), and was granddaughter and co-heiress to Elizabeth, heiress of Wem and Oversley, daughter and heiress of William le Botiller, Knt., of the same. She was married, with contract dated 28 Oct. 1407, to JOHN GREYSTOKE, Governor of Roxburgh Castle, son and heir of Ralph de Greystoke, 3rd Lord Greystoke .... She died in 1434, and was buried at Black Friars', York."¹³

     Eleanor Greystoke was born circa 1420. She married Sir Ralph Eure Knt., of Malton and Stokesley, Yorks, son of Sir William Eure Knt., of Witton, Durham and Maud Fitz Hugh.^3,1,7,2,5

Eleanor Greystoke died after 1468.
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
     1. Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques. 916
     2. Pedigrees Recorded at the Visitations of... Cumberland and Westmorland , Foster, Joseph (ed). 56.⁵ EDV-15.

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     John Wentworth of North Elmsall, co. York married Elizabeth Beaumont, daughter of Richard Beaumont Esq., of Whitley Hall, Yorks and Cecilia (?).¹
John Wentworth of North Elmsall, co. York was born circa 1360.
     EDV-17.

.²

     Richard Argum was born circa 1250.
     EDV-21.

.¹

     William Gerrard was born circa 1330 at Darsham, co. Suffolk, England.¹
     EDV-18.

Reference: Christou gedcom.¹

     John Wentworth married Alice Bisset, daughter of Roger Bisset.
John Wentworth was born circa 1310.
     EDV-19.

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     Alice de Teyes was born circa 1285. She married Sir Warin de Lisle of Kingston-Lisle on 15 January 1311.^1,2

      ; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VI 126.¹

.³

     Henry de Teyes Lord Teyes was born circa 1260.
      .¹

     Clarice la Warre was born circa 1280. She married Sir Adam de Everingham KB, 1st Lord Everingham, son of Sir Robert de Everingham and Alice de la Hyde, before 12 January 1307/8.¹

     EDV-19.

; Leo van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 188.¹

.³ Clarice la Warre was living on 25 August 1321.¹

     Sir Adam de Everingham KB, 1st Lord Everingham was born on 29 August 1279. He married Clarice la Warre, daughter of Sir Roger la Warre 1st Lord La Warre and Clarice de Tregoz, before 12 January 1307/8.³
Sir Adam de Everingham KB, 1st Lord Everingham married Margaret de Ros, daughter of Sir William de Ros of Ingmanthorpe and Joan (?), before 29 September 1326
; her 2nd husband.^4,5,6
Sir Adam de Everingham KB, 1st Lord Everingham died before 8 May 1341.⁶
      ; "Adam de Everingham, who, in the 31st of Edward I [1302/3], was in the wars of Scotland, and in three years afterwards was created a knight of the Bath with Prince Edward, and other persons of rank, when he attended the prince upon the expedition then made into Scotland. After which, in the 2nd of Edward II [1308/9], he was summoned to parliament as a Baron; and from that period to the 9th inclusice; during those years he was constantly engaged in the wards of Scotland; but afterwards takingup arms with Thomas, Earl of Lancaster, he was made prisoner at the battle of Boroughbridge, and forced to pay a fine of 400 marks to the king to save his life. In the 11th Edward III [1337/8], his lordship entailed his manor of Lexinton, in Notts, where he principally resided, upon Adam, his eldest son, and so successively in default of male issue upon Robert, Edmund, Alexander, and Nicholas, his younger sons. This manor was holden of the archbishop of York, by the service of performing the office of butler in the prelate's house, upon the day of his inthronization. Lord Everingham d. in 1341, and was s. by his eldest son, Adam de Everingham, 2nd baron..."¹

; CP V p 193 Adam de Everingham of Laxton, Everingham, etc. b. 29 Aug 1279 at
Shrewbury Knighted by the Prince of Wales 22 May 1306 at Westminister. d. bef 8
May 1341 m. 1st bef. 12 Jan 1307/8 Clarice who was living 25 Aug 1321. m2nd
before Michaelmas 1326. She was living Feb 1333/4 and dead by his own death.⁷ He was 1st Lord (Baron) Everingham between 1308 and 1309.¹

     Margaret de Ros married Sir John d'Eiville Knt., of Adlingfleet, Yorks, son of Sir John d'Eivill Knt., of Egmanton, Notts and Maud (?),
; her 1st husband; his 2nd wife. Richardson doesn't identify her surname.^2,3,4 Margaret de Ros was born circa 1280. She married Sir Adam de Everingham KB, 1st Lord Everingham, son of Sir Robert de Everingham and Alice de la Hyde, before 29 September 1326
; her 2nd husband.^3,5,6
     EDV-19.

; per Ravilious: Friday, 11 May, 2007



Hello All,

An interesting entry in the Patent Rolls was noted lately,
which indicates an association between William de Ros of
Ingmanthorpe (d. bef 28 May 1310) and John de Eyville, or Deiville
(d. ca. 1325) concerning unidentified lands in northern Wales,
and obligations with regard to Isabella de Beaumont, widow of
William de Vescy. This entry is dated 16 Oct., 1331:


' Oct. 16. Grant to Isabella de Bello Monte, lady of Vescy,
Westminster now tenant of certain lands in North Wales, late
of William de Ros of Igmanthorp and John Deyvill
of Athelynflet in respect of which she has been
grievously harassed by distraints made to recover
debts owing to the late king and the king by
by the said William and John, that such debts
shall not be levied during her lifetime, but that
all process shall be stayed until after death.
By K. ' [1]


This entry becomes more interesting when certain additional
pieces of information are noted.

1. William de Ros had a daughter Mary, who was prioress of
Rosedale prior to December 1306. She was identified
as the daughter of Sir William de Ros of Ingmanthorpe in
the Register of William Greenfield, Archbishop of York,
as she had recieved licence to visit her father twice a
year, dated 30 Dec. 1306 [2]. She was forced to resign
her position as prioress in September 1310; she
subsequently died before 1 Jan 1311 [3].

2. Among the nuns of Rosedale, we find Isabella Dayvill
in 1321, and Eleanor Dayvill in 1322. There clearly
was an association of the Dayvill family with this
priory, possibly connected to the position of Mary de
Ros as prioress [see [3] below].

3. William de Ros was known to have married Eustache, widow
of Nicholas de Cantelou (or Cantilupe). However, he
evidently was subsequently married to a 2nd wife, Joan,
mention of whom is found in the IPM of Reginald Fitz
Peter (extent made at Wichton, Friday, 26 July, 1286):

' Besides, William de Ros of Ingmanthorpe and Joan
his wife hold in chief in Lavynton in the county of
Lincoln one knight's fee which appertains to the
land of Wychton and Lounesborg' in the county of
York...' [4]

4. In addition to Mary de Ros and her other sisters, there
was one Margaret de Ros, concerning whom I find the
following entry in 1310, but following which I have
no further record:

' Grant in tail by Margaret de Ros of Dyghton to Sir
William de Ros, her brother, lord of Ingmanthorp, and
Isabel his wife, of the manor of Scakelthorp, which she
had had of the grant of William and Isabel by a fine
levied in the king's court', 7 Dec 4 Edw. II (1310) '[5]


I currently conjecture that Margaret, the 2nd wife of Sir John
de Eyville (or Deiville) was the same individual as Margaret de
Ros, daughter of William de Ros of Ingmanthorpe, most likely by
his 2nd wife Joan. In addition to the providing an explanation
for the many associations noted above, this would also explain the
name Joan being given to the one known daughter of Sir John de
Eyville and his wife Margaret (this is not an element of proof
in this matter). The variance in ages and marriage dates among
the children of the elder Sir William de Ros of Ingmanthorpe may
well be explained by his issue being by more than one wife, over
an extended period of time. For example, Isabel de Ros married
Marmaduke de Thweng ca. 1273, while Jueta de Ros most likely
married Geoffrey le Scrope ca 1305/1310. Jueta de Ros was more
likely the daughter of Joan, and half-sister to Isabel (de Ros)
de Thweng.



William de Ros = 1) Eustache = 2) Joan
d before 28 I : m. bef 26 Jul
May 1310 I : 1286
________________I_______________ :...........
I I I I I :
Sir William Mary Margaret
= Isabel de prioress = 1) (2nd wife)
Steeton of Rosedale John de Eyville
d. 1310 I = 2) Adam de
I Everingham 'Sr'
__________I I_______
I I I I
Joan Deiville = Sir Adam de siblings>
Everingham 'Jr'
( d. 8 Feb 1387/8)


Substantially more evidence than the foregoing is needed to
prove the conjecture. Should anyone have any additional relevant
documentation (e.g. concerning the lands in North Wales mentioned
above) or suggestions for further research, that would be most
welcome.

Cheers,

John *


NOTES

[1] CPR 5 Edw. III, Part II, p. 182, mem. 11.

[2] Reg. Greenfield, III:12, no. 1158.

[3] A History of the County of York, Volume 3 (1974): 'Houses of
Cistercians nuns: Rosedale Priory', pp. 174-76.

URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=36251

The pertinent section of this account follows:


' On 17 October 1306, (fn. 4) in consequence of a visitation,
Archbishop Greenfield issued injunctions to the prioress and
convent. Most were of the usual character, as to the due
observance of the rules of the order. Charity was to be
cultivated, corrections made in chapter without favour, the
nuns not to quarrel, the infirmary to be kept from the going
to and fro of seculars, and confessors were not to be
indiscriminately chosen by the nuns, but two brothers of the
order of Friars Minor were to be chosen, and their names
submitted to the archbishop.
On 22 August 1310 (fn. 5) Archbishop Greenfield ordered an
inquiry as to certain unspecified articles urged against the
prioress. The nuns and conversi were to be sworn and examined
privately, all secular persons being removed from their presence.
The accounts of the prioress, from the time of her administration,
as well as those of the bailiffs and other officials and servants
bound to render accounts were to be examined, and the prioress was
ordered to render to the commissioners full and complete accounts
from the time of her promotion, as well as a statement of the
then position of the house, and a further letter was sent by the
archbishop to the sub-prioress and nuns, telling them to render
an account of the house to the commissioners, as it was when the
prioress took office and as it was at the time he wrote. Evidently
the charge was one of maladministration. Whether the charges
proved against her were those of wilful wrongdoing or merely of
incompetent management, Mary de Ros resigned the office of
prioress sentiens se impotens, and on 30 September (fn. 6) the
archbishop directed the sub-prioress and convent to elect 'aliam
idoneam et honestam de vestri monasterii gremio monialem in
priorissam,' but before any election was made Mary de Ros died,
and on 1 January 1311 the king, as patron during the minority of
Thomas Wake, granted the nuns leave to elect a new
prioress. (fn. 7)
Another visitation of the house was held on Saturday,
28 September 1315, (fn. 8) as a result of which Archbishop
Greenfield issued another set of injunctions. A certified
statement, showing the credit and debit accounts of the house,
was to be sent to the archbishop before the feast of St.
Nicholas. The prioress was to see that the defects in the roof
of the cloister and other buildings were repaired, alms were
to be only given to the poor as the means of the house allowed.
An elderly nun of good fame and honest conversation was to have
charge of the cloister keys, the sick were to be duly tended,
and any nun disobedient and rebellious in receiving correction
was for each offence to receive a discipline from the president
in chapter and say the seven penitential psalms with the litany,
and if still rebellious, the archbishop would impose a more
severe penance.
The archbishop forbade all to accept presents from anybody, or
give any, except with the consent of the prioress. Under pain of
the greater excommunication no nun was to cause a girl or boy to
sleep, under any consideration, in the dormitory, and if any nun
broke this command the prioress, under pain of deposition from
office, was to signify her name to the archbishop without
delay. All nuns of the house were forbidden to wear mantles or
other garments of a colour or shade different from those
accustomed to be worn by. religious, and no unprocessed sister
was to wear the black veil.
The prioress and sub-prioress were ordered not to allow
puppies to enter the quire or church, which would impede the
service and hinder the devotion of the nuns. Those nuns who were
allowed out to visit their parents or friends were to return
within fifteen days, and no corrodies were to be granted, or
boarders, &c., received without the archbishop's special
licence.
On 17 May 1321 (fn. 9) Archbishop Melton wrote to the
Prioress and convent of Handale, that he was sending to them
Isabella Dayvill, nun of the house of Rosedale, vestri ordinis,
who, contary to the honesty of religion, had apostatized. She
was to undergo her appointed penance in their house, was to be
last in the convent, was to talk to no one, secular or religious,
and not to go out of the precincts of the monastery. Every Friday
she was to fast on bread and water, and every Wednesday to
abstain from fish, and on each of those days was to receive a
discipline in chapter from the hands of the president.
On 21 November 1322, (fn. 10) owing to the ravages of the
Scots, the monastery of Rosedale suffered so severely that the
nuns Were dispersed, and the archbishop wrote to Nunburnholme
to receive Alice de Rippinghale, to Sinningthwaite to receive
Avelina de Brus, to Thicket to receive Margaret de Langtoft,
and to Wykeham on behalf of Joan Crouel, nuns of Rosedale; and
it is noted that another nun, Eleanor Dayvill, entered the
house of Hampole, with letters from the queen. If Isabella
Dayvill was still at Handale this would account for six nuns,
and as there is no mention of the prioress it is probable that
she, and probably another nun to keep her company, were able to
remain at Rosedale. This would bring up the number to eight,
and it appears that another nun, Joan de Dalton, had been
previously sent away, for the archbishop (3 June 1323) (fn. 11)
ordered that she should be re-admitted. This would account for
nine nuns belonging to Rosedale, and that is believed to have
been the number usually forming the convent. From the date of
Joan de Dalton's re-admission it is evident that the dispersion
of the nuns did not extend beyond six months.'


[4] William Brown, ed., Yorkshire Inquisitions II:50
(No. XXXVIII).


[5] William Brown, ed., Yorks. Deeds II:160, No. 430.



* John P. Ravilious.¹

; His second wife remarried to her son-in-law's father.⁷ Margaret de Ros was living between 1333 and 1334.⁶

     Sir John d'Eiville Knt., of Adlingfleet, Yorks married Margaret de Ros, daughter of Sir William de Ros of Ingmanthorpe and Joan (?),
; her 1st husband; his 2nd wife. Richardson doesn't identify her surname.^3,5,1 Sir John d'Eiville Knt., of Adlingfleet, Yorks married Agnes (?)
; his 1st wife.² Sir John d'Eiville Knt., of Adlingfleet, Yorks was born after 21 July 1274 at England.³
Sir John d'Eiville Knt., of Adlingfleet, Yorks died circa 1325.^2,3
     EDV-20.

Reference: van de Pas cites:
     1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. IV 132-133
     2. Hamelin de Anjou Family History Report 2012, Ravilious, John Paul.³

; Arms: Deyville - Or a fess gules all semy de lis counterchanged
The Falkirk Roll - Source: Gerard J Brault, Rolls of Arms of Edward I, Society of Antiquaries, London, 1996 (courtesy of Brian Timms.)³

Reference: (an unknown value.)⁶ Sir John d'Eiville Knt., of Adlingfleet, Yorks was also known as Sir John Deyville of Egmanton.⁷

     Sir William II Marshal Knt., 1st Lord Marshal, Baron of Hockering, of Hingam, Norfolk married Christian Fitz Walter, daughter of Sir Robert fitz Walter Knt., 1st Lord Fitz Walter, of Little Dunmow, Essex and Devorguilla de Burgh.^6,2,3,4
Sir William II Marshal Knt., 1st Lord Marshal, Baron of Hockering, of Hingam, Norfolk was born circa 24 September 1277 at Denham, co. Suffolk, England.^1,3
Sir William II Marshal Knt., 1st Lord Marshal, Baron of Hockering, of Hingam, Norfolk died on 24 June 1314 at Battle of Bannockburn, Bannockburn, Scotland.^1,3,4
     EDV-22. EDV-21.

; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VIII 528, 529, 529n.³ He was hereditary Marshal of Ireland.¹

; EP.⁷ Sir William II Marshal Knt., 1st Lord Marshal, Baron of Hockering, of Hingam, Norfolk was also known as John le Marechal.⁶

     Hugh Bardolf 1st Lord Bardolf of Wormegay was born circa 1120 at Great Carlton, Lincolnshire, England. He was born in 1256; The Hugh Bardolf who married Isabel Aguillon was b. in 1259 and was son of William. CP Vol. 1 p. 417.⁵
He was born circa 29 September 1259 at co. Norfolk, England.^6,7,8 He married Isabel Aguillon Lady of Perching, daughter of Sir Robert Aguillon of Watton and Perching and Joan de Ferrers, before 1282.^6,1,9,7

Hugh Bardolf 1st Lord Bardolf of Wormegay died before 20 August 1304 at Nottinghamshire, England.^6,7,8
Hugh Bardolf 1st Lord Bardolf of Wormegay was buried after 20 August 1304 at Shelford Priory, Shelford, Rushcliffe Borough, Nottinghamshire, England.⁸
     He was 1st Lord Bardolf of Wormegay at Wormegay, co. Norfolk, England.⁶

Hugh Bardolf 1st Lord Bardolf of Wormegay lived at Wormegay, co. Norfolk, England.⁶

; Per Notable British Families: "Hugh Bardolf, who, in the 22nd of Edward I., had summons, with other eminent persons, to attend the king, to advise upon affairs of the realm, and was subsequently summoned to parliament, as Barond Bardolf, from the 6th of February, 1299 (27th Edward I.), to the 2nd of June, 1302. He m. Isabel, dau. and heiress of Robert Aguillon, by whom he had two sons, Thomas and William. His lordship, who was employed in the French and Scottish wars of this reign, d. in 1303, and was s. by his elder son, Sir Thomas Bardolf, KB.."
Per Genealogics:
     "Hugh Bardolf, 1st Baron Bardolf, was born about 29 September 1259, the son of Sir William Bardolf and Juliana de Gournay. Hugh Bardolf married Isabel Aguillon, daughter of Sir Robert Aguillon and Joan de Ferrers. They became the parents of two sons and two daughters. On his marriage, his father settled the manor of Plumpton, Sussex on Hugh and his wife Isabel. He was summoned to Parliament from 6 February 1298/99 to 2 June 1302 by writs directed 'Hugoni Bardolf', whereby he may be held to have become Lord Bardolf. In February 1301 Hugh Bardolf was one of sixty-nine barons who sealed the Barons' Letter to the Pope. This was in response to the Scots letter to Boniface VIII in 1298, defying the claimed English superiority, following the Parliament at Lincoln, 13-20 January 1300/1. Hugh Bardolf died before 20 August 1304; his widow died before 28 May 1323."^1,7 GAV-24 EDV-21.

Reference: Genealogics cites:
     1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. I 417
     2. Hugh Bardolf Family History Report 2015, Ravilious, John.^10,11,7 He was 1st Lord Bardolf on 6 February 1299.

     Margaret Percy married John Mowbray, son of William Mowbray and Agnes (?).
Margaret Percy was born circa 1285.
     EDV-19 GKJ-20.

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     John Bokill of Buxlow married Jane/Joan Leyston, daughter of John Leyston of Buxlow and Anne Gerrard.^1,3
John Bokill of Buxlow was born circa 1380 at Friston, co. Suffolk, England.²
     EDV-16.

Reference: Christou gedcom.²

     Jane/Joan Leyston married John Bokill of Buxlow.^5,2
Jane/Joan Leyston was born circa 1380.
     EDV-16.

; Per Burke's Commonoers grandmother of Sir William Jenney was Maud Gerrard.¹

     Margaret/Margary Foljambe married Sir Nicholas III Montgomery of Cubley, Derbyshire, son of Sir Nicholas II Montgomery Knt., MP, of Cubley and Marston Montgomery and Joan Longford.²
Margaret/Margary Foljambe was born circa 1370.
Margaret/Margary Foljambe died circa 1456.
      .³ GAV-19 EDV-17 GKJ-18.¹
; Per Carter email:
     "A branch of the Montgomeries were settled at Cubley, co. Derby, as
early as 1160 and may be descendents of Ralph who held under Henry de
Ferrers. The following is part of the same collaborative research by
Rosie Bevan, MichaelAnne Guido and myself that included the Longford
family.
     "1) Matilda MONTGOMERY d. bef. 17 MAR 1456/7 m. Thomas CLARELL Of Aldward and Peniston, co. York, d. 1 MAY 1442 drowned in the Don. [534:245; 316:4Sv3p70; 628:v1p339; 72:236]
     "2) Sir Nicholas III MONTGOMERY Of Cubley. Knight. d. 1465/6 Also had son Nicholas IV who may have married Joan Haddon and had issue; he was active in local affairs
from 1478 to 1493 and died 3 Aug 1494. [534:245; 316:4Sv3p70; 628:v1p339; 22:v50p361; 480:v4p xxviii; 72:236; 605:v3p98,764; 665:v3p92; 488:Clarell]
     "3) Margaret FOLJAMBE [22:v50p361; 72:413; 480:v4p xxviii; 605:v3p98,764; 628:v1p338; 534:245; 488:Clarell]
     "4) Sir Nicholas II MONTGOMERY Of Cubley and Marston Montgomery. Knight by Feb 1414. Served on various commissions 1414-31. Constable of the duchy of Lancaster castle of Tutbury, co. Stafford 1414 until his death. Steward of the lordship of Tutbury 1416-22, the duchy manors of Melbourne by 1420 and Wirksworth by 1428. Justice of the Peace co. Derby 1419-23. Sheriff co. Stafford 1430-1, and of cos. Nottingham and Derby 1431-2. MP 1414. Served in the wars in France 1415-6 and was in Rouen for part of that time in personal attendance upon King Henry V. d. 27 MAR 1435 [605:v3p98,761-4; 181:99; 653:v1p276; 644:v47p150; 665:v3p92; 668:v4p442]
     "5) Joan LONGFORD Joan and her husband were doubly related in the 4th degree. m. abt 20 Jul 1391 [605:v3p98,761-2; 194:v17p151; 668:v4p442]
     "6) Sir Godfrey FOLJAMBE Of Hassop and Darley, co. Derby. Knight of the Shire for co. Derby. Chief Steward of the Duchy of Lancaster. Second Baron of the Exchequer 1346. b. 1317; d. 29 MAY 1376 [72:413; 194:(1919)fac p24; 22:v50p361; 480:v4p xxviii; 29:v3p197; 605:v3p97-8; 628:v1p333-9]
     "7) Margaret de VILLIERS b. 1351/2; m. 1366 [72:413; 194:(1919)fac p24; 22:v50p361; 480:v4p xxviii; 605:v3p98; 628:v1p338]
     "8) Sir Nicholas I MONTGOMERY Of Cubley and Marston Montgomery, co. Derby. Knight by Jul 1381. Served on numerous commissions1377-1419. Justice of the Peace, co. Derby 1390-1410, 1418-24. Sheriff of cos. Nottingham and Derby 1391, 1406, 1409-11, 1413-4. Constable of Tutbury castle 1403-8. Keeper of the royal castle of Eardisley. MP 1388, 1411. Served the king in the retinue of Thomas, Earl of Buckingham. d. abt. 1424 probably. His 2nd wife was Margaret, widow of Richard Baskerville. [605:v3p98,760-2; 181:99; 653:v1p276; 652:23Jan01; 613:1381p84, 1382p139,245, 1384p495, 1388463; 645:1388p656, 1423p65, 1437p116; 194:v14p228, NS v 1 p 271]
     "9) Anne m. bef. Easter 1364 [605:v3p760]
     "10) Nicholas III LONGFORD Retainer of John of Gaunt. Commissioner of the peace co. Derby 1381. Held lands in Killamarsh, Thurvaston, Longford, Hathersage, Barlborough, Whitwell, Morton, Hasland, Boythorpe, Edensor, Stanton, Chatsworth. b. bef. 1350; d. 31 Aug 1401 [87:v42p113; 654:v14p95; 652:21Mar01; 605:v3p622-3; 644:v47p145; 478:IPM Nicholas II, E.Boteler; 613:1381p84; 151:pt37v7p259]
     "11) Margaret SULNEY fl. 1429 [87:v42p113; 652:21Mar01; 665:v3p188; 605:v3p622; 29:v4pt2p577; 644:v47p45,140,145]
     "14) Sir Payne de VILLIERS, of Kinalton, co. Nottingham Gr-grandson of Alexander VILLIERS and Cecily SEIS. [72:1009; 29:v3p197; 22:v50p361]
     "16) Sir Walter II MONTGOMERY Of Cubley, co. Derby. In the Lay Subsidy Roll for land in "Ogaston" [Oleston] and "Irlond" 1327-8. Presented to Cubley Church 1365, 1368. Confirmation of the grant of the market and fair at Cubley 1365. Served on local commissions 1342-56. d. bef. 1374 [605:v3p760; 181:99; 194:NSv1p271; 665:v3p91,93; 644:v30p40 (cites Lay Subsidy Roll 1327-8);; 613:1330p20, 1338p184, 1342p451, 1345p513, 1346p169-70, 1349p413, 1364p492; 645:1345p564,1346p63, 1355p123,132,135,137,164, 1356p254]
     "17) Matilda Presented to Cubley Church 1382, 1385 as relict of Walter. Occurs 1385. [605:v3p760; 194:NSv1p271; 665:v3p92]
     "22) Sir Alured SULNEY Of Newton Sulney, co. Derby [652:21Mar01 (cites Yeatman in "A Feudal History of the County of Derby " v1pt 2; 29:v4pt2p577]
     "32) Sir Walter I MONTGOMERY Named as Walter Montgomery senior when he surrendered lands in Oslaston to Edward Montgomery 1320-1. d. 1323 The name of his first wife and mother of his children is unknown. His second wife was Joanna Stafford Gresley who was implicated in the murder of her stepson William in 1323. [194:NSv1p271; 644:v18p8, v30p40 (cites "Pedes Finium" co. Derby 1320-1); 613:1313p21]
     "64) William MONTGOMERY Occurs 1298. [194:NSv1p271; 644:v18p97]
(It is difficult to separate four different Williams in the family with the information I have at hand. William #64 was son of William and apparently had a son William (dsp 1324 seised of Sudbury manor and church, co. Derby, and was succeeded by his "consanguineus et heres", Sir Walter II Montgomery), and a grandson William (killed 1323, son of Walter)
     "128) William MONTGOMERY Occurs 1249. Commissioner of the peace in Derby. Held in Merston, and Cubbley of Earl Ferrers. Held the right of free warren of the manors of Cubley, Marchington and Sudbury. [194:NSv1p271; 645:1232p124, 1242p484; 478]
The name of Eleanor Cheresey/Chebsey occurs in secondary sources as wife of a Nicholas Montgomery. I have not seen primary evidence to confirm this marriage or the Nicholas that she may have married. The confusion of the various Nicholas' wives in secondary sources makes me wonder if there isn't a collateral line of Nicholas Montgomerys.
SOURCES:

     Sir Godfrey Foljambe II, Knt. was born circa 1342.¹ He married Margaret de Villiers, daughter of Sir Payne de Villiers of Kinalton, Nottinghamshire, in 1366
; Christou Gedcom says m. bef 1366; Carter email says m. 1366.^1,2
Sir Godfrey Foljambe II, Knt. died in 1375.¹
     GAV-20 EDV-18 GKJ-19.

; from John Watsom email: 1.1.2.1 Godfrey Foljambe II, ca. 1342 - 1375.
Godfrey, eldest son and heir apparent of Godfrey Foljambe was probably born in the early 1340's because he was already married in June 1366, when his father granted him and Margaret his wife, the Nottinghamshire manor of Kinoulton[25]. Which brings us to an interesting question; how did the Foljambe family come into possession of Kinoulton? Thoroton assumed it was by inheritance and conceived a marriage between a daughter of Pain de Villers, who was lord of Kinoulton in 1353, and a member of the Ireland family[26]. However, it appears that about 1365, Godfrey Foljambe I purchased Kinoulton from the heiress of Pain de Villers, Joan widow of John de Morestead, daughter and heiress of Robert de Villers[27].

There are few notices of Godfrey III in official records. He was on commissions of peace in Staffordshire in February 1373 and February 1374[28] and in February 1375, he and his father owed £55 to Hugh Malepas[29]. He probably died in 1375, leaving a son, Godfrey III and a daughter Margaret who married Sir Nicholas Montgomery.
Watson cites:
     [25] CP 25/1/185/34, number 405.
     [26] John Throsby, ed., Thoroton's History of Nottinghamshire, vol. 1 (Nottingham, 1790), 153.
     [27] Nottinghamshire Archives, Foljambe of Osberton: Deeds and Estate Papers, DD/FJ/1/14/3 & DD/FJ/1/14/4.^3,1

     Cecily de Mohaut was born circa 1265. She married William I de Morley 1st Lord Morley, of Morley, Norfolk, son of Sir Robert II de Morley of Roydon, Norfolk,
; his 1st wife.^2,5,3
Cecily de Mohaut died between 1299 and 1300.¹
     EDV-21.

; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936, Doubleday, H. A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: IX 211.² Cecily de Mohaut was also known as Isabel de Mohaut.^2,3

; sister of Robert de Mohaut Lord Mohaut d. 1324. brother of Roger.⁶

     Sir Robert IV Morley Knt. was born circa 1375.² He married Isabel Moleyns, daughter of Sir Richard de Moleyns Knt., of Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire and Eleanor de Beaumont, before August 1394
; her 1st husband.^8,1,3,2
Sir Robert IV Morley Knt. died before 12 November 1403.³
Sir Robert IV Morley Knt. was buried before 12 November 1403 at Stokenchurch, Buckinghamshire, England.³
     EDV-17.⁹

; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: IX 218.³

; CP 6:360, 9 218-9

Robert Morley was not lord, died within lifetime of his father and his son
became 5th Lord. He was living 8 Jan. 1398/9 died bef 12 Nov. 1403.⁹

     Joan de Arundel married Sir Thomas de Willoughby Knt., KB, son of William de Willoughby KG, 5th Lord Willoughby de Eresby and Lucy le Strange.^5,1
Joan de Arundel was born circa 1407.⁵
     EDV-15.

.⁶

     Alice Furnival married Thomas Foljambe, son of Thomas Foljambe and Catherine Eure.¹
Alice Furnival was born circa 1290.
      .² GAV-22 EDV-20 GKJ-21.

     Isabel le Despenser was born circa 1280. She married Sir John de Hastings Knt., 1st Lord Grey of Ruthin, son of Sir Henry de Hastings Baron Hastings, of Ashill, co. Norfolk and Joan de Cantilupe, between 1306 and 1308
;
His 2nd wife; her 1st husband. Utz email says m: Aft. 1305; Med Lands says mn. aft Oct 1305.^{5,6,1,4,2,7,3} Isabel le Despenser married Sir Ralph de Monthermer Knt., Earl of Gloucester and Hertford before 20 November 1318
;
Her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife.^8,2,7,9,3
Isabel le Despenser died on 4 December 1334; died testate.^6,2,7,3
Isabel le Despenser was buried after 4 December 1334 at Grey Friars' Church, Salisbury, Wiltshire, England.^1,2
     Isabel le Despenser lived at an unknown place ; Per Med Lands:
     "ISABEL (-4/5 Dec 1334). King Edward II pardoned “Radulphus de Montehermerii” for marrying “Isabellam quæ fuit uxor Johannis de Hastinges defuncti” without royal consent by charter dated 12 Aug 1319[181].
     "m firstly (after Oct 1305) as his second wife, JOHN de Hastings Lord Hastings, son of HENRY de Hastings & his wife Joan Cantelou (Allesley, Warwickshire 6 May 1262-10 Feb 1313).
     "m secondly (before 10 Nov 1318) as his second wife, RALPH de Monthermer Lord Monthermer, son of --- ([1261/62]-5 Apr 1325, bur Salisbury, Grey Friars Church)."
Med Lands cites: [181] Rymer (1745), Tome II, Pars I, p. 181.³

Reference: (an unknown value.)⁵

     Sir Gilbert de Glanville was born circa 1300.
     EDV-20.

; Leo van de Pas cites: Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, reference: Page 2009.¹

.²

     John Wentworth Esq., of North Elmsall, Yorks was born circa 1290 at Elmsall, Yorkshire, England. He married Jane Le Tyes, daughter of Richard le Tyes of Burghwallis, Yorks and Alice de Tankersley, circa 1314.^2,3

     EDV-20.

; In the ongoing quest to resolve the early ancestry of the Wentworth family(families), Cris Nash had noted previously part of the version provided in Burke's Peerage [1]. While not necessarily searching for evidence to support pedigrees produced in Burke's, I noted the following grant provided by Richard Holmes, dated 7 Edw II [1313/14]:


' Jn the writeings of Thomas Wentworth, Baronet, ex Gasc.
lib. F. fo. 20.

G [vol.127] 113

J, William sonne of William de Wynteworth wodehouses, haue giuen & c. to John my brother & Jone daughter of Richard le Tyars & their heires, & c., the yearly rent of 20s out of my Lands and tenem'ts, which John my vnkle & Agnes his wife doe hold for terme of life of the demise of William de Wentworth wadhouses, my father, in Thorp nere Wentbrig, & in Upton, to haue to the foresaid John & Jone & their heires. And if it happen the said John my vnkle to die before Agnes his wife J will that the foresaid John & Jone of the foresaid tenements 40s in the life of Agnes, with a windmill, & after the decease of John & Agnes all the Lands and Tenem'ts in Thorp aforesaid & Upton may remaine to John my brother & Jone daughter of Richard le Tyes, together with the windmill. But if the said John my brother die without heire of the foresaid Jone after their decease all the p'mises to returne to me & my heires.
Witnesse, John de Trauers, then Steward of Pontefract,
Edmund le Boteler, Tho. Seynpaul, John Dangerous, Roger
le Folifate. Dat. 7 Ed. 2 [1313-4]. '


This text validates several (but not all) details as given in the Burke's pedigree provided by Cris. Interestingly, as it also dates the marriage of John (de) Wentworth and Jane/Joan le Tyes to 1314 or before, this also provides additional support to the suggestion that John Wentworth (d. 1425, husband of Agnes Dronsfeld) was their grandson, not son.

Should anyone have further documentation, or points involving subsequent findings concerning the Wentworth ancestry, that would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers, John

NOTES

[1] Cris Nash, , SGM, 26 Nov 2003. The
text of the message is as follows:

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From: c...@windsong.u-net.com (Cristopher Nash) - Find messages by this
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:40:55 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: RE: Wentworth, Beaumont


Brice --

> >As I understand it (not that I have seen all of them) the pedigrees
> >that show John who m. Dranfield as son of John who m. Tyas leave out
> >a Bisset marriage altogether. Yet Elmsall is supposed to have come
> >to the Wentworths from the Bissets.. If Elmsall can be shown to have
> >been a Bisset property before the Wentworth ownership, that would
> >support the marriage.

-- I agree and this is looking very helpful.

> >The most plausible explanation seems to be that some pedigrees have
> >omitted a generation and that Tyas was grandmother of Wentworth who
> >m. Dransfield.

Ya know what? I think there may an antique hint of this kink in the
weave, dating back at least to Burke's Extinct & Otherwise Bent
Peerage (R.I.P.) which, sub 'Wentworth', 575, says
William de Wentworth and Dyonisia da. of Peter de Rotherfield
|
William, his successor, who "s[ucceeded] his father in 1295,
and m. Isabel, dau. and co-heir of William Pollington" [etc]
John who "m. the dau. and heir of Elmsall, of Elmsall,
in Yorkshire, by whom he acquired that estate,
and dying s. p., left it to his nephew, John [evidently bro. William's son] ... who inherited Elmsall from his
uncle, and marrying Joan, dau. of Richard le Tyas, of
Burgh-Walleys, co. York, [and who] was ancestor of the
Wentworths of Elmsall" etc.

I've no interest in giving this great cred., but it does suggest a
'dog-leg' in the line (the jog from heir to uncle) that might leave
room -- if no useful data -- for both your Bisset-kind of scheme and
for (if anyone remains interested) an extra John who m. Eliz Beaumont.

Again, I know that Paul Reed has looked into the generations
affecting e.g. Wentworth/Rotherfield/Pollington connections, but....

> >Yes, John who m. Beaumont seems to be "surplus" to the Nettlstead
> >line, though not to the Elmshall line. But I don't see that that
> >causes any problem.

None at all! I aimed just to support your seeming to've simplified
things for us here.

Best, Cris


[2] Richard Holmes, Wapentake of Osgoldcross, The Yorkshire Archaeological
Journal [Vol. XIII (1895)], p. 130.³

.⁴

     Sir William de Everingham Knt., of Laxton, co. Nottingham was born circa 1330 at Skinningrave. He married Alice de Grey, daughter of Sir John de Grey KG, 3rd Lord Grey of Codnor and Alice de Lisle, before 28 January 1353/54.^5,1

Sir William de Everingham Knt., of Laxton, co. Nottingham died on 16 August 1369; d. v. p. 43rd Edward III.¹
      ; "William, who m. Alice, dau. of John, Lord Grey, of Codnor, and dying v. p. 43rd Edward III, left issue,
Robert, who s. his grandfather.
Joan, m. to Wir William Elys, Knt.
Catherine, m. to John Elton, Esq.
Reginald, who inherited the manor of Westburgh, co. York, m. 1st, Agnes, dau. of John Longvillers, and 2ndly, Joan, dau. of -- , and d. 1st Henry VI, leaving a son,
Edmund, who d. s. p; and several daus."¹

Sir William de Everingham Knt., of Laxton, co. Nottingham lived at Laxton, Northamptonshire, England.⁶

; CP V p 193 Sir William de Skinngingrave d. 16 or 21 Aug 1369 m. Alice dau of
Sir John Grey of Codnor, Co Derby m. bef 28 Jan 1353/4.⁷

     Agnes Dransfield married John Wentworth Esq., of North Elmsall, son of John Wentworth and Alice Bisset.^1,2
Agnes Dransfield was born circa 1340.
Agnes Dransfield died on 3 October 1430.³
     EDV-18.

.⁴ Agnes Dransfield was also known as Agnes Dronsfield.⁵

     John Wentworth Esq., of North Elmsall married Agnes Dransfield, daughter of William Dransfield of West Bretton, Yorks.^2,3
John Wentworth Esq., of North Elmsall was born circa 1340.
John Wentworth Esq., of North Elmsall died after 1413.²
     EDV-18.

.⁴

     Elizabeth (?) married Robert Reygate.¹
Elizabeth (?) was born circa 1300.¹
     GAV-21 EDV-19 GKJ-20.

Reference: Christou Gedcom.¹