Theodegotha (?)1

F, #67921
FatherTheodoric I (?) King of Metz/King at Reims1 b. c 486, d. c 534
Last Edited30 Apr 2006
     Theodegotha (?) married Alaric II (?) King of the Visigoths.1

      ; The other Theodegotha is, however, very much a real person. She was a daughter of Theoderic by his unknown first wife and was married to Alaric II, King of the Visigoths (Patrick Amory, _People and Identity in Ostrogothic Italy, 489-554_ [Cambridge: The University Press, 1997], 455). Their son King Amalaric married, in 511, Chrodechildis (d. 531), daughter of Clovis I, King of the Franks, by his second wife, also named Chrodechildis, daughter of Chilperic II, King of the Burgundians (Christian Settipani, _La Prehistoire des Capetiens, 481-987, Premiere Partie_ [Villeneuve d'Ascq, 1993], tableau 1).1

Citations

  1. [S1898] Kelsey J. Williams, "Williams email 23 June 2005: "Re: Theodogotha/Theodogotho"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Williams email 23 June 2005."

Alaric II (?) King of the Visigoths1

M, #67922
Last Edited30 Apr 2006
     Alaric II (?) King of the Visigoths married Theodegotha (?), daughter of Theodoric I (?) King of Metz/King at Reims.1

      ; The other Theodegotha is, however, very much a real person. She was a daughter of Theoderic by his unknown first wife and was married to Alaric II, King of the Visigoths (Patrick Amory, _People and Identity in Ostrogothic Italy, 489-554_ [Cambridge: The University Press, 1997], 455). Their son King Amalaric married, in 511, Chrodechildis (d. 531), daughter of Clovis I, King of the Franks, by his second wife, also named Chrodechildis, daughter of Chilperic II, King of the Burgundians (Christian Settipani, _La Prehistoire des Capetiens, 481-987, Premiere Partie_ [Villeneuve d'Ascq, 1993], tableau 1).1

Citations

  1. [S1898] Kelsey J. Williams, "Williams email 23 June 2005: "Re: Theodogotha/Theodogotho"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Williams email 23 June 2005."

Godehilde (?)1

F, #67923, d. after 1066
FatherRichard d'Evreux 2nd Comte d'Evreux1 b. c 986, d. 1067
MotherGodehilde (?)1 d. a 1055
Last Edited30 Apr 2006
     Godehilde (?) died after 1066.1
      ; Nun at Saint-Saveur, Évreux. Godehilde was mentioned in the foundation charter of Saint-Sevreux by her father Richard [Fauroux (1961) no. 208 (p. 396)]
Fauroux (1961) = Marie Fauroux, Recueil des actes des ducs de Normandie de 911 à 1066 (Mémoires de la Société des Antiquaires de Normandie 36, Caen, 1961).1 She was living between 1055 and 1066.1

Citations

  1. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/godeh000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.

Rudalt de Vannes Comte de Vannes1,2

M, #67924
FatherAlain I "le Grand" (?) Duc de Bretagne3,2 b. c 840, d. 907
MotherOreguen (?)3,2
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
      ; Per Wikipedia (Fr.):
     "Rudalt de Vannes (xe siècle), fils d'Alain Ier, roi de Bretagne, comte de Vannes et de Nantes, fut comte de Vannes vers 907-915/920. Il est le dernier comte connu de Vannes avant les invasions vikings et le rattachement du comté au domaine ducal sous Conan Ier.
Biographie
Origine
     "Rudalt est l’un des deux fils survivant du roi Alain Ier de Bretagne. Son nom germanique « Rudalt » est une variante du nom « Hrodolt-Frouald » porté un siècle plus tôt par un comte de Vannes, frère et associé du Marquis Guy de Nantes de la famille des Widonides. Cette dernière devait vraisemblablement avoir un lien lignagé, sans doute en ligne féminine, avec celle d’Alain le Grand originaire de la même région1.
     "Vers 907 après la mort du roi de Bretagne la plus grande confusion semble avoir régné dans sa succession. Sans doute faute d’un accord entre ses fils Rudalt et Derrien et ses gendres Mathuedoï de Poher et le comte Tanki, la souveraineté de la Bretagne leur échappa avant d’être assurée par un nommé Gourmaëlon qui était comte de Cornouaille.
     "Rudalt doit se contenter du comté de Vannes où il règne « post mortem patri sui2». Il quitte probablement la Bretagne, où il est encore mentionné dans une notice du cartulaire de Redon du 30 novembre 912, comme la plus grande partie de l'aristocratie vraisemblablement vers 915-920 lors de l’invasion viking et il semble ne jamais y être revenu. Avec lui disparaît le titre de comte de Vannes3
Postérité
     "La postérité de Rudalt demeure hypothétique toutefois sur la base de l’onomastique Noël-Yves Tonnerre considère qu’il est vraisemblable que Rudalt soit :
** le père ou le grand-père d'Orscand de Vannes évêques de Vannes mort vers 992 dont le fils est également nommé Rudalt.
** l’ancêtre du lignage de Rieux où l’on enregistre encore l’alternance régulière des noms Alain et Rudalt au xie siècle4.
Annexes
Bibliographie
** Noël-Yves Tonnerre, Naissance de la Bretagne. Géographie historique et structures sociales de la Bretagne méridionale (Nantais et Vannetais) de la fin du viiie à la fin du xiie siècle, Angers, Presses de l'Université d'Angers, 1994 (ISBN 978-2-903075-58-3 et 2-903075-58-1).
** Joëlle Quaghbeur La Cornouaille du IXe au xiie siècle. P.U.R Rennes (2002) (ISBN 2 868477437).
Articles connexes
** Liste des souverains du Vannetais: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_souverains_du_Vannetais
** Vannetais: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vannetais
** Liste des comtes de Nantes: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_comtes_de_Nantes
** Comté de Nantes: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_comtes_de_Nantes#Comt%C3%A9_de_Nantes
Notes et références
1. Noël-Yves Tonnerre Naissance de la Bretagne... « La descendance d’Alain le Grand en Vannetais » p. 352
2. Cartulaire de Redon: Charte CCLXXVIII du 30 novembre 909
3. André Chédeville & Noël-Yves Tonnerre La Bretagne féodale XIe-XIIIe siècle Ouest-France Université Rennes (1987) (ISBN 2 7373 00142) p. 166
4. Dont; Rudalt ou Rodoald vers 1021 qui était « vraisemblablement », fils d'Alain et petit-fils de Rudalt qui était lui-même fils d'un autre Alain et petit-fils de Rudalt comte de Vannes vers 907-913 lui-même fils attesté du roi Alain Ier de Bretagne. Notons qu'il s'agit d'une reconstitution plausible de Le Mené qui repose sur l'utilisation alternée des patronymes Alain et Rudalt."1

; According to The Henry Project: "Rudalt, count [apparently of Vannes], 909×913.
     "Rudalt appears as as a count "post mortem patri sui" on a charter of 30 November 909 [Cart. Redon 225; Borderie (1897-8), 438], and as princeps in a charter of 15 March 913 [Cart. Redon 222]. Although Rudalt is not explicitly called a son of Alain, the latter is the obvious candidate for the unnamed father mentioned in the 909 charter, and the charter quoted in the Chronicle of Nantes, which he signed first, immediately before the following three known sons of Alain, suggests that he was Alain's eldest son by Orgain. For the attempt of Guillotel to identify Rudalt with Derian below, see the Commentary section below on count Tangui."2 Rudalt de Vannes Comte de Vannes was living between 909 and 913.2

Citations

  1. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Rudalt de Vannes: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudalt_de_Vannes. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  2. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Alain I "le Grand": https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/alain000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRITTANY.htm#PasquitanVannesBretagneMDaughterSalomon. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Guérech, (?)1

M, #67925
FatherAlain I "le Grand" (?) Duc de Bretagne2,3 b. c 840, d. 907
MotherOreguen (?)1,2
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
      ; The Henry Project cites: Cart. Redon 216, 373-7; Chr. Nantes, 74-77; Cart. Angers 29-32; Poupardin (1900), 306
Cart. Angers = C. Urseau, Cartulaire Noir de la Cathédrale d'Angers (Paris & Angers, 1908).
Cart. Redon = M. Aurélien de Courson, Cartulaire de l'Abaaye de Redon (Collection de documents inédites sur l'histoire de France, Paris, 1863).1 Guérech, (?) was living between 888 and 903.1

Citations

  1. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/alain000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRITTANY.htm#PasquitanVannesBretagneMDaughterSalomon. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Alain I "le Grand": https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/alain000.htm

Budic (?)1

M, #67926
FatherAlain I "le Grand" (?) Duc de Bretagne2,3 b. c 840, d. 907
MotherOreguen (?)1,2
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
      ; The Henry Project cites: Cart. Redon 216, 373-7; Chr. Nantes, 74-77]
Cart. Redon = M. Aurélien de Courson, Cartulaire de l'Abaaye de Redon (Collection de documents inédites sur l'histoire de France, Paris, 1863).
Chr. Nantes = René Merlet, ed., La Chronique de Nantes (Paris, 1895). [Pages numbers alone are citations to the text, page numbers with footnotes indicating comments by Merlet.]1 Budic (?) was living between 895 and 903.1

Citations

  1. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/alain000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRITTANY.htm#PasquitanVannesBretagneMDaughterSalomon. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Alain I "le Grand": https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/alain000.htm

Derian (?)1

M, #67927
FatherAlain I "le Grand" (?) Duc de Bretagne1 b. c 840, d. 907
MotherUnknown (?)2
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
      ; According to The Henry Project: "Mother uncertain...Mentioned as a son of Alain in a charter of Alain in 903 [Cart Redon. 376-7 ("Dergen")], and in a charter of his godfather count Tangui in 910, with whom he had divided the village of Elven [Cart Redon 226]. For the attempt of Guillotel to identify Derian with Rudalt above, see the Commentary section below on count Tangui."
Cart. Redon = M. Aurélien de Courson, Cartulaire de l'Abaaye de Redon (Collection de documents inédites sur l'histoire de France, Paris, 1863).1 Derian (?) was living between 903 and 910.3

Citations

  1. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Alain I "le Grand": https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/alain000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRITTANY.htm#PasquitanVannesBretagneMDaughterSalomon. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/alain000.htm

Ealhswid (Ealhswyð) (?) de Flandres1,2

F, #67929
FatherBaudouin II "Le Chauve" (?) comte de Flandres et d’Artois2,3,4,5,6 b. bt 863 - 865, d. 10 Sep 918
MotherÆlfthryth/Elfrida (?) of Wessex2,7,3,5,8 b. bt 875 - 877, d. 7 Jun 929
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. 9
.5

; The Henry Project cites: Æthelweard, 1-2.1 Ealhswid (Ealhswyð) (?) de Flandres was also known as Ealswid (?) of Flanders.5

Citations

  1. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/baldw002.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLANDERS,%20HAINAUT.htm#BaudouinIIFlandersdied918. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Baudouin II 'the Bald': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00018645&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00104012&tree=LEO
  6. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Baldwin II "the Bald" (Baudouin "le Chauve", Balduinus Calvus): https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/baldw002.htm
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elftrudis|Alfthryth of Wessex: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00018646&tree=LEO
  8. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Ælfthryth (Ælfðryð, Elftrude): https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/aelft001.htm

Ermentrude (?) de Flandres1,2

F, #67930
FatherBaudouin II "Le Chauve" (?) comte de Flandres et d’Artois2,3,4,5,6 b. bt 863 - 865, d. 10 Sep 918
MotherÆlfthryth/Elfrida (?) of Wessex2,7,3,5,8 b. bt 875 - 877, d. 7 Jun 929
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. 9.5

; The Henry Project cites: Æthelweard, 1-2 ("Earmentruth.")1

Citations

  1. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/baldw002.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLANDERS,%20HAINAUT.htm#BaudouinIIFlandersdied918. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Baudouin II 'the Bald': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00018645&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Irmtrud of Flanders: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00104013&tree=LEO
  6. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Baldwin II "the Bald" (Baudouin "le Chauve", Balduinus Calvus): https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/baldw002.htm
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elftrudis|Alfthryth of Wessex: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00018646&tree=LEO
  8. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Ælfthryth (Ælfðryð, Elftrude): https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/aelft001.htm

Mathilde (?)1

F, #67931, d. 1033
FatherRichard II "The Good" (?) Duke of Normandy1,3 b. 23 Aug 963, d. 23 Aug 1027
MotherJudith "of Rennes" (?) of Brittany1,2,3 b. 982, d. 28 Jun 1017
Last Edited11 Dec 2020
     Mathilde (?) died in 1033.4
      ; According to The Henry Project: "Mathilde, d. 1033 [Chron. Rothomag. (Annals of Rouen), RHF 11, 386]. GND iv, 13 (vol. 2, pp. 28-9) states only that the third daughter of Richard and Judith died as an adult virgin ("tertia ian adulta obiit uirgo"), and does not given her name. See Stasser (1990) for the identification of this daughter with the Mathide, daughter of count Richard, whose death is entered under the year 1033 in the Annals of Rouen."
GND = Guillaume de Jumièges, Gesta Normannorum Ducum, as edited in Elisabeth van Houts, ed. & trans., The Gesta Normannorum Ducum of William of Jumièges, Orderic Vitalis and Robert of Torigni, 2 vols., (Oxford, 1992). Citation is by book and chapter of Guillaume's work, with the volume and page number of the edition by van Houts in parentheses. Unless otherwise stated, references are to Guillaume's work, and not to later additions by such authors as Orderic Vitalis and Robert de Torigni.
Stasser (1990) = Thierry Stasser, "'Mathilde, Fille du Comte Richard': Essai d'identification", Annales de Normandie 40 (1990), 49-64.“.1

Citations

  1. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Richard II: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/richa001.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  2. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Judith de Bretagne: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/judit001.htm
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY.htm#RichardIIdied1026B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/judit001.htm

Papia/Poppa (?)1,2

F, #67932
Last Edited11 Dec 2020
     Papia/Poppa (?) married Richard II "The Good" (?) Duke of Normandy, son of Richard I "The Fearless" (?) 3rd Duke of Normandy and Gunnora (Gunnor, Gonnor) de Crepon Duchess of Normandy, after 1017
; per Henry Project: "m. (2) probably soon after 1017, Papia [GND iv, 13 (vol. 2, pp. 102-3)]."3,4,5
     ; Per Racines et Histoire (Normandie): “2) Richard II «Le Bon» ou «Sans Peur» ° ~958 996 + 23 ou 28?/08/1026 comte de Rouen, duc de Normandie (996)
     ép. 1) 1000 (ou 982 ?) Judith de Bretagne ° 982 (ou 962 ?) + 17/06/1017 (fille de Conan 1er «Le Tort» comte de Rennes, duc de Bretagne)
     ép. 2) 1017 (répud.) Estrid de Danemark (fille de Sveyn 1er «A la Barbe Fourchue», roi de Danemark, Norvège et d’Angleterre)
     X) liaison avec Papia + après 1052”.6
; Per Weis: “Richard II, 'the good,' duke of Normandy, d. 28 Aug. 1026; mn. (1) abt. 1000, Judith (121-22) of Brittany, b. abt. 982, d. 1017, dau. of Conan I, Count of rennes; m. (2) 1017 Astrid (Margaret), dau. of Swen I, King of Denmark; m. (3) abt. 1024, Poppa. He had many children by (1) and (3).”.2
; Per Med Lands:
     "RICHARD, son of RICHARD I "Sans-Peur" Comte [de Normandie] & his second wife Gunnora --- (-23 Aug 1026, bur Fécamp). Ademar names Richard as son of "Richardus Rotomagensis"[160]. Guillaume of Jumièges names “Richardum...et Robertum atque Malgerium aliosque duos” as the sons of Richard and his wife “Gunnor ex nobilissima Danorum prosapia ortam”[161]. Robert of Torigny names "Ricardum…qui ei successit et Robertum postea archiepiscopum Rothomagensium et Malgerium comitem Curbuliensem, aliosque duos" as the sons of "Ricardi primi ducis Normanniæ" and Gunnora[162]. He succeeded his father in 996 as RICHARD II "le Bon/l'Irascible" Comte de Normandie. Orderic Vitalis records the death in 996 of "Ricardo seniore" and the succession of “Ricardus Gunnorides filius eius” who held “ducatum Normanniæ” for 30 years[163]. An agreement between the abbots of Jumièges and Bougeuil concerning an exchange of land in Poitou, by charter dated [13 Apr/4 Apr] 1012, is subscribed by "Richardus…filius Ricardi principi magni, filius eius Richardus et…mater Richardi comitis Gunnor, uxor comitis Richardi…"[164]. Duke of Normandy [1015]. “Ricardus princeps et dux Normannorum, filius Ricardi seniroris” donated “villam...Fontes in Braio...Brendelcurt cum ecclesia...æcclesiam de Nouobosco, æcclesiam de Bosmesnil...” to Saint-Wandrille, at the request of “Yvonis...militis”, by charter dated to [1024], subscribed by “Riccardi principis Normannorum, Papie comitisse, Roberti archipresulis fratris eiusdem principis, Yvonis militis...Hugonis Baiocensis episcopi, Girardi Flagitelli...”[165]. He intervened on behalf of his son-in-law Renaud Comte Palatin de Bourgogne, who had been imprisoned by Hugues de Chalon, by sending troops to devastate Chalon in 1026 and procure his release. According to Adam of Bremen, after repudiating his betrothal to the sister of Knud King of Denmark, Duke Richard left for Jerusalem to escape the Danish king's wrath and died there[166], but this is inconsistent with the duke's third marriage. "Secundus nominis mei Normannorum dux Ricardus" confirmed donations to Fécamp abbey, for the soul of "conjugis mee…Judith", by charter dated 1027 (misdated), signed by "Ricardi filii Gulberti, Nigelli vicecomitis…Storstingi vicecomitis"[167]. The necrology of Saint-Père-en-Vallée records the death "X Kal Sep" of "Ricardus comes"[168]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Germain-des-Prés records the death "X Kal Sep" of "[Ricar]dus Normannorum secundus"[169]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "X Kal Sep" of "Ricardus Rothomagensium comes"[170]. The necrology of Verdun Saint-Vanne records the death "X Kal Sep" of "Richardus comes"[171], although the connection between Duke Richard and Verdun has not been established. The Brevis Relatio de Origine Willelmi Conquestoris records that "Ricardus…filius Willelmi et alius Ricardus" were buried "Fiscanni"[172].
     "m firstly (Mont Saint-Michel [1000]) JUDITH de Bretagne, daughter of CONAN I "le Tort" Duke of Brittany & his wife Ermengarde d'Anjou ([982]-16 Jun 1017). Guillaume of Jumièges records the marriage of “dux Richardus” and “Goiffredum Britannorum comitem...sororem...Iudith” at “limina Archangeli Michaelis”[173]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Ricardus Gunnorides...et Judith uxor eius soror Gaufredi Britonum comitis” founded “cœnobium apud Bernaïcum in honore sanctæ Dei genitricis Mariæ”[174]. An agreement between the abbots of Jumièges and Bougeuil concerning an exchange of land in Poitou, by charter dated [13 Apr/4 Apr] 1012, is subscribed by "Richardus…filius Ricardi principi magni…Judith…"[175]. The Chronicle of Caen Saint-Etienne records the death in 1017 of "Judita comitissa"[176].
     "Betrothed (after 1017) to ESTRID [Margrete] Svendsdatter, daughter of SVEND I "Tveskæg/Forkbeard" King of Denmark & his second wife Sigrid “Storråda/the Haughty” (-9 May ----, bur Roskilde Cathedral). Adam of Bremen records that "Chnud…rex Danorum" gave "suam…germanam Margaretam pro foedere" to "comitis Nortmannorum Rikardi" and after, she was repudiated by Richard, to "Wolf duci Angliæ"[177]. Saxo Grammaticus also records her betrothal[178]. The Chronicon Roskildense records that "Kanutus" gave "sororem…Estrith" to "Richardo", who repudiated her, after which she married "duci Ulf" without her brother´s consent[179]. She later married Ulf Thrugilson Jarl [Wulfsige Sprakeling].
     "m secondly PAPIA [Poppa], daughter of --- (-after 1047). Guillaume of Jumièges records that Duke Richard II married secondly after the death of his first wife “Papiam” by whom he had “Malgerium...archipræsulem et Willelmum Archacensem”[180]. She is named "Poppa", Duke Richard's second wife, by Orderic Vitalis[181]. The names of two of Papia’s brothers are found in the following two sources, but no other indication of her family origin. The Chronicon Fontanellense names “Papia” as second wife of Duke Richard, adding that “cuius fratres Ansfredus et Osbernus” were monks at Fontanelle[182]. “Osbernus et Anfredus fratres, tempore Ricardi secundi comitis, qui eorum sororem Papiam in coniugio habebat” donated “alodum...in monasterio Odelerii cum capella S. Desiderii” to Saint-Wandrille by charter dated to [1024][183]. “Ricardus princeps et dux Normannorum, filius Ricardi senioris” donated “villam...Fontes in Braio...Brendelcurt cum ecclesia...æcclesiam de Nouobosco, æcclesiam de Bosmesnil...” to Saint-Wandrille, at the request of “Yvonis...militis”, by charter dated to [1024], subscribed by “Riccardi principis Normannorum, Papie comitisse, Roberti archipresulis fratris eiusdem principis, Yvonis militis...Hugonis Baiocensis episcopi, Girardi Flagitelli...”[184]. "Duke Richard [II]" donated property to the abbey of Mont Saint-Michel by charter dated to [1024/26], subscribed by "…Papie uxoris comitis"[185]. "Guillelmus Archensis comes et frater meus Malgerius Archiepiscopus" donated the vill of Periers sur Andelle to the monastery of Saint-Ouen at Rouen, at the request of "matris mee Paveie" and the consent of "Guilielmo Normannorum comite", by charter dated to [1047/50][186]. "
Med Lands cites:
[160] Ademari Historiarum III.33, MGH SS IV, p. 131.
[161] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber IV, XVIII, p. 247.
[162] Robert de Torigny, Vol. I, 965, p. 25.
[163] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, I, p. 10.
[164] Jumièges 7, p. 16.
[165] Saint-Wandrille, 10, p. 41.
[166] Adami, Gesta Hammenburgensis Ecclesiæ Pontificum II.52, MGH SS VII, p. 325.
[167] Louviers, Tome I, II, p. 3.
[168] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Saint-Père-enVallée, p. 194.
[169] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Saint-Germain-des-Prés, p. 270.
[170] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Saint-Denis, p. 324.
[171] Necrology Verdun Saint-Vanne, p. 145.
[172] Brevis Relatio de Origine Willelmi Conquestoris, p. 14.
[173] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber V, XIII, p. 255.
[174] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, I, p. 10.
[175] Jumièges 7, p. 16.
[176] Annales Historia breve sive Chronica monasterii S. Stephani Cadomensis, p. 165.
[177] Adami, Gesta Hammenburgensis Ecclesiæ Pontificum II.52, MGH SS VII, p. 325.
[178] Saxo Grammaticus, 10, XIV, p. 28.
[179] Gertz (1917), Vol. I, Chronicon Roskildense, VII, p. 20.
[180] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, VII, p. 270.
[181] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. III, Book V, p. 87.
[182] Chronicon Fontanellense Appendix Altera VII, Spicilegium, Tome II, p. 288.
[183] Saint-Wandrille, 9, p. 40.
[184] Saint-Wandrille, 10, p. 41.
[185] Round (1899) 701, p. 249.
[186] Gurney (1845) Part I, p. 43, quoting originals in the Archives de Rouen.4


; This is the same person as ”Papia of Envermeu” at Wikipedia.7

Citations

  1. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/richa001.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  2. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 121E-21, p. 121.. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richard II 'the Good': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020046&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY.htm#RichardIIdied1026B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Richard II: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/richa001.htm
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Ducs de Normandie, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Normandie.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  7. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papia_of_Envermeu. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  8. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York, NY: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), p. 499 (Chart 35). Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume of Normandy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139686&tree=LEO
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Judith de Bretagne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020198&tree=LEO
  11. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#GuillaumeTaloudied1054
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139688&tree=LEO

Sir Christian Seton Governor of Berwick1,2

M, #67933, d. 1306
Last Edited8 Jul 2020
     Sir Christian Seton Governor of Berwick married Lady Christian de Brus Lady of Garioch, daughter of Sir Robert de Brus Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick and Marjorie (Margaret) (?) Countess of Carrick, in 1305
;
Her 2nd husband.1,3,4
Sir Christian Seton Governor of Berwick died in 1306; per van de Pas: "hanged and drawn for treason."1,5
      ; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VIII 403.5

Family

Lady Christian de Brus Lady of Garioch b. c 1276, d. bt 1356 - 1357
Child

Citations

  1. [S1900] Diane Sheppard, "Sheppard email 12 July 2005: "Re: Joan (? Douglas) Dacre`s possible Magna Carta descent"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 12 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Sheppard email 12 July 2005."
  2. [S2022] Stirnet Genealogy, online http://www.stirnet.com/, Seton 01 - Families covered: Seton of Seton
    http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/ss4as/seton01.htm. Hereinafter cited as Stirnet Genealogy.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Christian Bruce: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00232037&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2286] Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, online http://oxforddnb.com/index/, https://www.oxforddnb.com/view/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-60019. Hereinafter cited as ODNB - Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Christian Seton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00427299&tree=LEO

Sir Alexander Seton1

M, #67934
FatherSir Christian Seton Governor of Berwick1 d. 1306
MotherLady Christian de Brus Lady of Garioch1 b. c 1276, d. bt 1356 - 1357
Last Edited6 May 2006

Citations

  1. [S1900] Diane Sheppard, "Sheppard email 12 July 2005: "Re: Joan (? Douglas) Dacre`s possible Magna Carta descent"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 12 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Sheppard email 12 July 2005."

Sir Andrew Moray Lord of Bothwell, Regent of Scotland1,2

M, #67935
Last Edited8 Jul 2020
     Sir Andrew Moray Lord of Bothwell, Regent of Scotland married Lady Christian de Brus Lady of Garioch, daughter of Sir Robert de Brus Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick and Marjorie (Margaret) (?) Countess of Carrick, after 1306
;
Her 3rd husband.1,3,4
      ; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VIII 404.2

; per Sheppard email: [quote] SP, vol 2, 434-435 (Bruce, earls of Carrick) and Vol 5, p. 579 also state that she was the sister of King Robert Bruce, and therefore, daughter of Marjorie of Carrick. Her marriages also support this view. Robert Bruce and Isabel de Clare were married in May 1240. Robert Bruce and Marjorie of Carrick were married in 1271. Christian was married to Gratney earl of Mar about 1296 and bore him two children, Donald earl of Mar & Ellen (m Sir John Menteith between 1320-1323). She married Sir Christian Seton after Gratney's death in 1305 (before September) and was the mother of Sir Alexander Seton. Christopher Seton died in 1306. She was a prisoner from 1306 until at least 1314. Third, she married Sir Andrew Moray, lord of Bothwell. A dispensation for their marriage was granted October 12,1326. They were related in the fourth degree. She did not have any children by her third marriage. She died in 1357, when she is last mentioned in the Exchequer Rolls. [end quote]1

Citations

  1. [S1900] Diane Sheppard, "Sheppard email 12 July 2005: "Re: Joan (? Douglas) Dacre`s possible Magna Carta descent"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 12 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Sheppard email 12 July 2005."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Andrew Moray, of Bothwell: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00427300&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Christian Bruce: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00232037&tree=LEO
  4. [S2286] Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, online http://oxforddnb.com/index/, https://www.oxforddnb.com/view/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-60019. Hereinafter cited as ODNB - Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.

James E. McCartney1

M, #67936, b. March?, d. 14 September 1885
Last Edited20 Apr 2017
     James E. McCartney was born in March?1 He married Harriet Jane Meek, daughter of William Jerome Meek and Elizabeth Breckenridge, on 28 June 1846 at Centre Co., Pennsylvania, USA.1

James E. McCartney died on 14 September 1885 at Bolivar, Westmoreland Co., Pennsylvania, USA.1
James E. McCartney was buried on 14 September 1885 at Bolivar Old Town Cemetery, Bolivar, Westmoreland Co., Pennsylvania, USA; from FindAGrave.com:
     Birth:      Mar.
     Death:      Sep. 14, 1885
     Centre County, PA Marriages 1800-1850 - Aug. 26, 1846 -- James McCartney of Half Moon and Harriet J. Meek of Ferguson Twp., married by Rev. George Bergstresser. [Centre Democrat, issue of 9 September 1846]
     Family links: Spouse: Harriet Jane Meek McCartney (____ - 1880)
     Inscription: JAMES E. McCARTNEY. | BORN | [unclear] | DIED SEP. [21?], 18**
     Burial: Bolivar Old Town Cemetery, Bolivar, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, USA
     Created by: Michael S. Caldwell
     Record added: Jun 10, 2012
     Find A Grave Memorial# 91664102.1
     He was a mentioned with Capt. George Meek at Citation; Commemorative Biographical Record of Central Pennsylvania, Including the Counties of Centre, Clinton, Union and Snyder; Chicago: J.H.Beers & Co., 1898, p. 124.
     "Capt. George Meek entered the service with his brothers. The father, Robert Meek, owned property in Cumberland county in 1761. The family of George Meek lived near Lewistown (now Mifflin county) in 1780, and he came into Centre county with James Harris on a surveying expeditionin 1784. On the 21st of January, 1790, he took up a tract of land in Ferguson township, which is still owned by the Meeks. His children were: mary, John, Robert, David, William, Sarah, Isabella and Jane.
     "William married Elizabeth Breckinridge, whose family had settled in Huntingdon county about three miles southeast of McConnelstown, on the road leading from Huntingdon to Bedford, and where the father, eldest sister and younger brother had been murdered by the Indians. He settled on that part of his father's tract now known as the David G. Meek farm, and died in 1806, leaving his wife and four sons and a daughter born three months after the father's death. The children were: John B., born June 5, 1797, died in Washington, D.C., November 28, 1868; George W., born September 14, 1799, died May 27, 1877; Reuben H; William J; and Harriet Jane, who married James McCartney, and died in Bolivar, Penn., in 1881."2

James E. McCartney and Harriet Jane Meek appeared in the census of 14 July 1870 at Bolivar Borough, Westmoreland Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 220-A, lines 39-40, dwelling 23, family 23
     39 MCCARTNEY, James E. 56 [1814] M W Brick Manufacturer $1810 $2500 Scotland
     40 " , Harriet J. 54 [1816] F W Keeps House PA.3

James E. McCartney and Harriet Jane Meek appeared in the census of June 1880 at Bolivar Borough, Westmoreland Co., Pennsylvania, USA; p. 120-A, lines 47-49, dwelling 306, family 318
     47 McCARTNEY, James E. W M 65 [1815] Married School Teacher Scotland Scotland Scotland
     48 " , Harriet J. W F 60 [1820] Wife Married Keeping house PA MD MD
     49 " , John B. W M 12 [1868] Son single PA Scotland MD.4

Family

Harriet Jane Meek b. c Jul 1806, d. 19 Jul 1880
Child

Citations

  1. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, James E. McCartney: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=91664102. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  2. [S2618] J. H. Beers & Co., compiler, Commemorative Biographical Record of Central Pennsylvania, Including the Counties of Centre, Clinton, Union and Snyder (Chicago, IL: J. H. Beers & Co., 1898), p. 124. Hereinafter cited as Beers [1898] Comm Biographical Record Central PA.
  3. [S3694] 1870 Federal Census, 1870 Census PA, Westmoreland Co., Bolivar Borough, Year: 1870; Census Place: Bolivar, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania; Roll: M593_1465; Page: 220A; Image: 360538; Family History Library Film: 552964
    Info: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1870usfedcen&indiv=try&h=9703925
    Image: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7163/4276466_00436?pid=9703925&backurl=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db%3D1870usfedcen%26indiv%3Dtry%26h%3D9703925&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true
  4. [S3695] 1880 Federal Census, 1880 Census PA, Westmoreland Co., Bolivar Borough, Year: 1880; Census Place: Bolivar, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania; Roll: 1204; Family History Film: 1255204; Page: 189C; Enumeration District: 116
    Info: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1880usfedcen&indiv=try&h=1025146
    Image: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/6742/4244428-00623?pid=1025146&backurl=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db%3D1880usfedcen%26indiv%3Dtry%26h%3D1025146&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true#?imageId=4244428-00623

Sir Thomas (Sr.) Barre of Barre's Court1

M, #67937, b. circa 1349, d. between 12 December 1420 and 22 December 1420
FatherThomas Barre of Rotherwas3 d. Jun 1388
MotherHawise Pembridge2
Last Edited7 Sep 2019
     Sir Thomas (Sr.) Barre of Barre's Court was born circa 1349.1 He married Elizabeth Croyser, daughter of Sir William Croyser of Stoke Dabernon and Alice (?), circa 1381
;
Her 2nd husband.4,1
Sir Thomas (Sr.) Barre of Barre's Court died between 12 December 1420 and 22 December 1420.1
      ;
From History of Parliament: BARRE, Sir Thomas de la (c.1349-1419), of Barre's Court in Holmer and Rotherwas, Herefs. and Ayot St. Lawrence, Herts.
Published in The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1386-1421, ed. J.S. Roskell, L. Clark, C. Rawcliffe., 1993
Constituency     Dates
HEREFORDSHIRE     1386
HERTFORDSHIRE     1401
HEREFORDSHIRE     1402
HERTFORDSHIRE     1407
HERTFORDSHIRE     1411
HEREFORDSHIRE     Mar. 1416
Family and Education
     "b.c.1349, 3rd. s. and event. h. of Thomas de la Barre† of Rotherwas, by Hawise, sis. and coh. of Sir Richard Pembridge of Ayot St. Lawrence. m. by 1381, Elizabeth (d. 14 Dec. 1420), da. of Sir William Croyser of Stoke Dabernon, Surr. by his 1st w., wid. of Sir Ralph Camoys and of Sir Edward Kendale (d.1375), of Hitchin, Herts., 1s. 1da. Kntd. by 1373.1
Offices Held
     "Sheriff, Herefs. 11 Nov. 1384-10 Dec. 1385, 1 Dec. 1388-15 Nov. 1389, 9 Nov. 1395-1 Dec. 1396, Essex and Herts. 1 Dec. 1415-30 Nov. 1416.
     "J.p. Herefs. 9 Nov. 1385-Nov. 1389, 2 Mar.-Nov. 1399, 9 July 1419-d., Herts. 16 May 1401-Jan. 1414, 4 May 1419-d.
     "Escheator, Glos., Herefs. and adjacent march 13 July-Nov. 1388.
     "Commr. of inquiry, Herefs. Feb. 1391 (alienation of Eaton Tregoes), Herts. June 1406 (concealments); to make proclamation against adherents of Walter Brut, Herefs. Sept. 1393, of Henry IV’s intention to govern well, Herts. May 1402; survey lands of condemned Lords Appellant of 1388, W. Midlands and the march Oct. 1397; of array, Herefs. Dec. 1399, Sept. 1403, Herefs., Herts. Mar. 1419; oyer and terminer, Herts., Bucks. July 1403; to raise royal loans, Herts. Mar. June, June 1406, Nov. 1419.
Biography
     "Sir Thomas de la Barre’s family were originally citizens of Hereford, but by the time of his birth they had long since risen to gentility, and his father (another Thomas) served at one time or another as sheriff, escheator, j.p., tax collector and (in 1355) knight of the shire for Herefordshire. His mother, Hawise, was the second sister of Sir Richard Pembridge, whose only son Henry died childless in 1375, whereupon the Pembridge lands passed to the sons of Hawise and her sister Amy Burley. Thus, in 1376, the estates were divided between our Sir Thomas (whose elder brothers were by now dead) and his cousin Sir Richard Burley. Sir Thomas’s share included the manors of Ayot St. Lawrence (Hertfordshire), Mathern (Monmouthshire), and Clehonger and Mere Court with other manors in Herefordshire, as well as the manor of Burgate and the hundred of Fordingbridge (Hampshire); by November 1378, however, he had granted the Hampshire lands to Burley in exchange for more estates in Herefordshire.2
     "By 1381 de la Barre had further added to his lands by his marriage to Elizabeth, widow of Sir Ralph Camoys and Sir Edward Kendale, whose dower included the manor of Hitchin and other property in Hertfordshire, the manors of Wrestlingworth, Bedfordshire, and Shalden, Hampshire, and property in Norfolk. On his father’s death in June 1388, furthermore, Sir Thomas inherited the family estates in and around Hereford, including the manor of Rotherwas and lands at Tarrington, Holmer, Cobhall (in Allensmore), Little Marcle and Lyde, and he subsequently also acquired the manors of Lower Bullingham and Hillhampton, in the same region. He was, in short, a substantial landowner both in Herefordshire (where his estates at his death were valued at £46 a year) and in the south east Midlands (where, in 1412, his Hertfordshire lands were worth an annual £40 and those in Bedfordshire £18 p.a.)3
     "Perhaps due to the influence of his uncle, Sir Richard Pembridge, who was Edward III’s under chamberlain in 1371, Sir Thomas apparently began his career in the royal household, although he did see military service overseas in the retinue of Humphrey, earl of Hereford. He was knighted by 1373 and on 4 Jan. 1377 he was granted a life annuity of 40 marks. Three weeks later he received a royal pardon for his part in the death of one William Collyng. He was an intimate enough member of the Court to be called upon to give evidence at the trial before Parliament of Edward III’s mistress, Alice Perrers, which took place in December 1377, six months after Edward’s death. On that occasion he was called ‘of the Household’, and he appears to have become a favoured retainer of Richard II, who in May 1384 appointed him surveyor of the King’s hay at Hereford and, in the following November, confirmed his earlier annuity, transferring the charge of it from the Exchequer to the issues of Herefordshire. In the summer of 1385 he served on the royal expedition to Scotland, and in September (when he was granted a livery of mourning for Richard’s mother, Princess Joan) he was called a King’s knight.4 Nothing is known of his Household service between 1385 and 1394; and indeed he appears to have been much occupied in Herefordshire during that period, serving as sheriff, escheator, justice and royal commissioner.
     "In August 1394 Sir Thomas took out royal letters of protection to accompany Richard II’s expedition to Ireland, obtaining their renewal after a period of six months. He served throughout the campaign with a small retinue of two men-at-arms and three archers, receiving wages of war from 7 Sept. 1394 until 21 Apr. following. In February 1396 he was retained to stay with Richard II for life, being then accorded a further annuity of 40 marks. On 28 May 1397 this was confirmed as additional to his pension of 20 years earlier, and on the same day he was granted an annual gift of three tuns of red wine for life.5
     "Despite his closeness to Richard II, de la Barre apparently had no difficulty in adjusting to the government of Henry IV, who confirmed his annuities as early as 7 Nov. 1399, and in whose service he continued as a household knight. During the previous reign his local administrative activities had centred on Herefordshire, but from now on he appears to have divided his time between that county and his estates in Hertfordshire. In 1401 he was first returned to Parliament for Hertfordshire and shortly afterwards was appointed a j.p. there, having been dropped from the Herefordshire commission in 1399. However, he still remained active in the marches: in August 1402 he was ordered to supervise the Herefordshire levies and to lead them to the county town to join Henry IV’s expedition against Owen Glendower. Shortly afterwards he again represented Herefordshire in Parliament. What private links Sir Thomas had with other gentry of the area is not clear, for he did not often appear as a witness or surety, though in 1404 he was a mainpernor for (Sir) Leonard Hakluyt* (when the latter had a royal lease of lands in Herefordshire) and in 1405 he acted in the same capacity for Thomas Walwyn II* (who was then bound over not to assault Lady Despenser’s servants).6
     "In 1404 de la Barre was granted exemption from being appointed to any royal office against his will. The formal reason given was his ‘great age’ (he was then about 55), but this did not prevent him from serving on several further royal commissions, from acting as sheriff of Essex and Hertfordshire in 1415-16, or from being returned to at least three other Parliaments. By about 1405, however, he had apparently ceased to be, even nominally, a household knight. All the same, his grants and annuities were again confirmed by Henry V. In September 1416 the dean and chapter of Hereford appointed him steward of four of their local manors.7
     "In October 1419, when de la Barre was once again serving on the Herefordshire bench, his son, Sir Thomas junior, appeared before him, charged with a series of crimes (including robbery, armed abduction, house-breaking and sheep stealing) committed in the county between 1414 and 1418, and was eventually sent for trial before the royal courts at Westminster. This embarrassing affair must have involved the elder de la Barre in his last public duties, for he died on 18 Dec. following.8
     "By an inquisition post mortem held on 24 Sept. 1420 it was established that his heir was his infant grandson, John†, the son of Sir Thomas de la Barre junior (who had died between July and September that year) and his wife Alice, sister of John Talbot, Lord Furnival, subsequently earl of Shrewsbury. Sir Thomas the elder’s widow also died in 1420, whereupon custody of all his lands, together with the marriage of the heir was granted to Lord Furnival and his sister.9
     "Ref Volumes: 1386-1421
     "Author: Charles Kightly
Notes
     "1.Herefs. RO, B56/2, f. 12; J. Duncumb, Herefs. (Hundred of Grimsworth), 88; CCR, 1377-81, p. 426; 1389-92, p. 136; CFR, x. 253; xiv. 335; C138/58/47; CPR, 1374-7, p. 208.
     "2.CIPM, xiv. 192; CCR, 1374-7, pp. 350-1; 1377-81, p. 215; 1389-92, p. 136; CPR, 1377-81, p. 345; 1388-92, p. 269; SC8/183/9144; CChR, v. 236.
     "3.CCR, 1377-81, pp. 426-7, 506-7; 1419-22, pp. 180-1; CPR, 1381-5, p. 156; 1391-6, p. 427; Feudal Aids, ii. 411, 415, 419; iii. 632; vi. 395, 460; CIPM, xiv. 152-4; xvi. 656; CFR, x. 253; xiv. 20-21; C138/48/63; VCH Hants, iv. 102.
     "4.CPR, 1374-7, pp. 404, 419; 1381-5, pp. 408, 477; RP, iii. 14; CCR, 1381-5, p. 486; E101/32/20, 401/16; EHR, lxxiii. 19.
     "5.CPR, 1391-6, pp. 472, 549, 703; 1396-9, p. 140; E101/402/20 m. 34.
     "6.CPR, 1399-1401, pp. 107, 220; 1401-5, p. 138; CFR, xii. 279; CCR, 1402-5, p. 526.
     "7.CPR, 1401-5, p. 375; 1413-16, p. 119; SC8/273/13648; Cal. Hereford Cathedral Muns. (NLW, 1955), iii. 2754.
     "8.KB 27/634 rex m. 3. Little is known about Thomas junior's earlier life, but by 1410 he had married Alice Talbot, and as a retainer of her brother, Lord Furnival, accompanied him to Ireland in 1414, when he was sent there as King's lieutenant. That it was Sir Thomas the elder, and not his son, who sat in the Parliament of 1416 (Mar.), is certain, for the son was probably then in Ireland, nor was he yet a knight. In 1419 Sir Thomas junior had letters of protection to join the King's retinue in France, but claimed to have been prevented from leaving home because of a false indictment by John Abrahall*. A.J. Pollard, 'The Talbots' (Bristol Univ. Ph.D. thesis, 1968), 12, 225, 417; Rot. Pat. et Claus. Hib. ed. Tresham, i. 206, 209; KB27/611 m. 24; DKR, xliv. 615; SC8/296/14760; J.H. Matthews, Herefs. (Wormelow), 117; CFR, xiv. 335-6; CPR, 1416-22, p. 320.
     "9.C138/48/63, 58/47; CFR, xiv. 335-6; CPR, 1416-22, p. 315."5

Reference: Genealogics cites:
     1. History of Parliament , Roskell. 1386 2:134
     2. Ancestor list of Lucy and Emily O'Connor 2015 , O'Connor, Robert. 3,358,652
     3. Posting to Gen-Medieval Newsgroup . 24 Jul 2005.1 Sir Thomas (Sr.) Barre of Barre's Court was also known as Sir Thomas de la Barre of Barre's Court.5

Family

Elizabeth Croyser d. 14 Dec 1420
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Thomas Sr. Barre, of Barre's Court: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00463981&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hawise Pembridge: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00674359&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas Barre, of Rotherwas: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00674358&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Croyser: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00674356&tree=LEO
  5. [S4718] The History of Parliament, online <http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/>, http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/barre-sir-thomas-de-la-1349-1419. Hereinafter cited as History of Parliament Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Thomas Barre: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00463981&tree=LEO

Idoine Hotoft1

F, #67938
Last Edited7 May 2006
     Idoine Hotoft married Sir John Barre Knt., son of Sir Thomas "The Younger" Barre and Alice Talbot.2

      ; van de Pas cites: Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques, Reference: 895.1

Family

Sir John Barre Knt. b. 1412, d. 14 Jan 1483
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Idoine Hotoft: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00326747&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John Barre: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00326746&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabelle Barre: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00326748&tree=LEO

Joan Trumpington1

F, #67939
FatherReginald Trumpington1
Last Edited14 May 2006
     Joan Trumpington married William Wykeham (Perrott) of Broughton Castle, son of Sir Thomas Wykeham (Parrott) and Elizabeth Wilcotes.

      ; "...Joan, dau of Reginald Trumpington."1

Citations

  1. [S1904] Charlotte Smith, "WorldConnect Post-em 15 March 2006 re Individual #52638," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to Greg Vaut, 15 March 2006. Hereinafter cited as "WorldConnect Post-em 15 March 2006 re Individual #52638."

Reginald Trumpington1

M, #67940
Last Edited14 May 2006

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1904] Charlotte Smith, "WorldConnect Post-em 15 March 2006 re Individual #52638," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to Greg Vaut, 15 March 2006. Hereinafter cited as "WorldConnect Post-em 15 March 2006 re Individual #52638."

Elizabeth Wilcotes1

F, #67941
FatherWilliam Wilcotes1 d. bt 1411 - 1412
MotherElizabeth Trillow1 d. 1445
Last Edited14 May 2006
     Elizabeth Wilcotes married Sir Thomas Wykeham (Parrott), son of William Parott and Alice Champneys.

Citations

  1. [S1904] Charlotte Smith, "WorldConnect Post-em 15 March 2006 re Individual #52638," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to Greg Vaut, 15 March 2006. Hereinafter cited as "WorldConnect Post-em 15 March 2006 re Individual #52638."

William Wilcotes1

M, #67942, d. between 1411 and 1412
Last Edited14 May 2006
     William Wilcotes married Elizabeth Trillow.

William Wilcotes died between 1411 and 1412.1

Citations

  1. [S1904] Charlotte Smith, "WorldConnect Post-em 15 March 2006 re Individual #52638," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to Greg Vaut, 15 March 2006. Hereinafter cited as "WorldConnect Post-em 15 March 2006 re Individual #52638."

Elizabeth Trillow1

F, #67943, d. 1445
Last Edited14 May 2006
     Elizabeth Trillow married William Wilcotes.

Elizabeth Trillow died in 1445.1

Family

William Wilcotes d. bt 1411 - 1412
Child

Citations

  1. [S1904] Charlotte Smith, "WorldConnect Post-em 15 March 2006 re Individual #52638," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to Greg Vaut, 15 March 2006. Hereinafter cited as "WorldConnect Post-em 15 March 2006 re Individual #52638."

David Mosby1

M, #67944, d. before 15 June 1809
Last Edited14 May 2006
     David Mosby married Anne (?)
; her 1st husband.1
David Mosby died before 15 June 1809.1
      ; per WorldConnect Post-em: "...Anne Mosby (widow of David Mosby.)1"

Family

Anne (?) b. c 1750, d. b 1832

Citations

  1. [S1907] Shari Phillips Horton, "WorldConnect Post-em 10 Dec 2005 re Individual #3659," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to Greg Vaut, 10 Dec 2005. Hereinafter cited as "WorldConnect Post-em 10 Dec 2005 re Individual #3659."

John Faunt of Wistow, co. Huntingdon1

M, #67947
FatherJohn Faunt Esq., of Wistow, co. Huntingdon1,2,3 d. a 1499
MotherAlice Clervaux1,2,3
ChartsAncestors - Robert Delaney PRATT
ReferenceGAV14
Last Edited24 Aug 2008
     John Faunt of Wistow, co. Huntingdon married Anne Hide, daughter of John Hide.2

     GAV-14.

; Martin Wood argues that Douglas Richardson mis-cited Nichols and skipped this generation, making John's son William (m. Isabel Syor/Sayer) the son of John's father and mother, John and Alice Clervaux.1,4

; per Martin Wood: [quote] John Faunt of Wistow married Anne, daughter of John Hide, and sister of George Hide Esq. [The William Faunt given by Richardson, and his brother Thomas both died without issue] [end quote]1

Citations

  1. [S1911] Martin Wood, "Wood, Martin email 14 May 2006: "Re: WorldConnect: Post-em posted"," e-mail message from e-mail address (Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, England) to Greg Vaut, 14 May 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Wood, Martin email 14 May 2006."
  2. [S1957] John Nichols, The History and Antiquities of the County of Leicester (1807; reprint n.p.: E. P. Publishing Ltd in collaboration with the Leicestershire County Council, 1971), "Pedigree of FAUNT, alias FAWNT, of Wistow, co. Huntington; and of Foston, co. Leicester.", Vol. III, Part 1, p. 175. Hereinafter cited as Nichols [1807]: Leicester History and Antiquities.
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Corbin 12: p. 229. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S1912] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st ed. (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2005), p. 232. Hereinafter cited as Richardson [2005] Magna Carta Ancestry.

Anne Hide1

F, #67948
FatherJohn Hide1,2
ChartsAncestors - Robert Delaney PRATT
ReferenceGAV14
Last Edited13 Aug 2006
     Anne Hide married John Faunt of Wistow, co. Huntingdon, son of John Faunt Esq., of Wistow, co. Huntingdon and Alice Clervaux.2

     GAV-14.

; per Martin Wood: [quote] Anne, daughter of John Hide, and sister of George Hide Esq. [end quote]1

Citations

  1. [S1911] Martin Wood, "Wood, Martin email 14 May 2006: "Re: WorldConnect: Post-em posted"," e-mail message from e-mail address (Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, England) to Greg Vaut, 14 May 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Wood, Martin email 14 May 2006."
  2. [S1957] John Nichols, The History and Antiquities of the County of Leicester (1807; reprint n.p.: E. P. Publishing Ltd in collaboration with the Leicestershire County Council, 1971), "Pedigree of FAUNT, alias FAWNT, of Wistow, co. Huntington; and of Foston, co. Leicester.", Vol. III, Part 1, p. 175. Hereinafter cited as Nichols [1807]: Leicester History and Antiquities.

John Hide1

M, #67949
ReferenceGAV15
Last Edited13 Aug 2006
     GAV-15.

Family

Children

Citations

  1. [S1911] Martin Wood, "Wood, Martin email 14 May 2006: "Re: WorldConnect: Post-em posted"," e-mail message from e-mail address (Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, England) to Greg Vaut, 14 May 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Wood, Martin email 14 May 2006."
  2. [S1957] John Nichols, The History and Antiquities of the County of Leicester (1807; reprint n.p.: E. P. Publishing Ltd in collaboration with the Leicestershire County Council, 1971), "Pedigree of FAUNT, alias FAWNT, of Wistow, co. Huntington; and of Foston, co. Leicester.", Vol. III, Part 1, p. 175. Hereinafter cited as Nichols [1807]: Leicester History and Antiquities.