Williswint (?)1

F, #5101, d. between 12 July 764 and 776
FatherCount Adelhelm (?) Grundherr im Wormsgau1,2,3
ReferenceGAV34 EDV34
Last Edited28 Jun 2020
     Williswint (?) married Robert I (?) Comte de Hesbaie, Count Palatine, Graf im Oberrheingau und Wormsgau, son of Lantbertus II (Lambert) (?) of Hesbaye and Chrotlind (?), circa 730.1,4,5,3,2
Williswint (?) died between 12 July 764 and 776.3
     Williswint (?) and Robert I (?) Comte de Hesbaie, Count Palatine, Graf im Oberrheingau und Wormsgau
Per Med Lands:
     "ROBERT [I], son of LAMBERT [II] comes in Neustria and Austrasia & his wife --- ([700/10]-before 764). The third continuator of the Gesta Abbatum Trudonensium names "Robertus comes vel dux Hasbanie" in 715, and quotes a charter dated 7 Apr 742 under which "Robertus comes, filius condam Lamberti" donated property "in villa…Sarcinio…in pago Hasbaniensi…[et] Halon, Scaffnis, Felepa et Marholt" to St Trudon[501]. Comte de Hesbaie. Comes palatinus 741/42. Graf im Oberrheingau und Wormsgau.
     "m ([730]) WILLISWINDA, daughter of ADALHELM Grundherr im Wormsgau & his wife --- (-[12 Jul 764/776]). "Cancor…Rhenensis pagi comes cum matre sua…Williswinda vidua Ruperti comitis" founded Kloster Lorsch by charter dated 764[502]. "Williswinda…et filius meus Cancor" donated "villam…in pago Wormatiense…Hagenheim super fluvium Salusiam", inherited from "genitoris mei…Adelhelmi", to monastery "Lauresham in pago Rhenense super fluvium Wisgotz" by charter dated 12 Jul 764, signed by "…Heimerici filii Cancronis"[503]. "Heimericus" names "Williswinda avia ipsius Heimericus" in an undated charter relating to a donation to Kloster Lorsch[504]. "Karolus…rex Francorum", in an undated charter (placed in the compilation with charters dated 772) related to Kloster Lorsch, names "avia…Heimerici…Williswinda vel genitor suus Cancor, germano suo domino Ruodgango archiepiscopo"[505]. The primary source which confirms her parentage, and that her husband was named Robert, has not yet been identified."
Med Lands cites:
[501] Gestorum Abbatum Trudonensium Continuatio Tertia, I, 7, MGH SS X, p. 371.
[502] Codex Laureshamensis (1768), Tome I, p. 2.
[503] Codex Laureshamensis (1768), Tome I, I, p. 2.
[504] Glöckner, K. (ed.) (1933) Codex Laureshamensis, Band II (Darmstadt) (“Lorsch”) 65, p. 94.
[505] DD Kar. 1, 65, p. 94.3


Williswint (?) and Robert I (?) Comte de Hesbaie, Count Palatine, Graf im Oberrheingau und Wormsgau
Per Genealogy.EU (Capet 1): “E1. Robert I, Duke in Haspengau, Ct in Oberrheinsgau and Wormsgau, living 764; m.ca 730 Williswint (+after 768) dau.of Ct Adalheim”.6

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. 13.2 GAV-34 EDV-34 GKJ-35.

Williswint (?)
Per Genealogics: "On 12 Jul 764 founded Lorsch Abbey with her son and grandson” on 12 July 764.2 She was living in 768.2

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet1.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Williswint: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020379&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANCONIA.htm#Robertdiedbefore764B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 48-13, p. 50. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rutpert I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020378&tree=LEO
  6. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet1.html
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thuringbert (Turincbertus): https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020381&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rupert/Cancor: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076145&tree=LEO

Lantbertus II (Lambert) (?) of Hesbaye1,2

M, #5102, b. circa 669, d. before 741
FatherChrodobertus II (Robert) (?) Count Palatine1,3,4,5 b. b 653, d. a 678
MotherDoda/Detta (?)1,6,4,5 d. b 12 Sep 677
ReferenceGAV35 EDV35
Last Edited28 Jun 2020
     Lantbertus II (Lambert) (?) of Hesbaye was born circa 669; Weis says adult bef 690 (690-21=669); Wikipédia (Fr.) says b. 665.7,8,9 He married Chrotlind (?), daughter of Theuderic/Theodorich III (?) King of the Franks and Chlotilde/Doda/Chrothechildis/Rotilde (?).10,7,5
Lantbertus II (Lambert) (?) of Hesbaye died before 741; Weis says "dead 741"; Genealogics says d. bef 741; Wikipedia says d. 742.8,5,7
     Lantbertus II (Lambert) (?) of Hesbaye
Per Med Lands:
     "[LAMBERT [II] (-before 741). According to Europäische Stammtafeln[524], Lambert [II] was the son of Chrodbert [II] but no reference to Lambert or this alleged relationship has been found in any of the primary sources so far consulted.]
     "m ---. The name of Lambert’s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites: [524] ES II 10.4 GAV-35 EDV-35 GKJ-36.

Lantbertus II (Lambert) (?) of Hesbaye
This is the same person as:
”Lambert, Count of Hesbaye” at Wikipedia and as
”Lambert de Hesbaye” at Wikipédia (Fr.)7,9 Lantbertus II (Lambert) (?) of Hesbaye was also known as Lambert II (?) Count of Haspengau.7 Lantbertus II (Lambert) (?) of Hesbaye was also known as Lambert (?) of Hesbaye.11

Reference: Genealogics cites: Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels Fürstliche Häuser , Reference: 1961 9.5

Lantbertus II (Lambert) (?) of Hesbaye and Chrodobertus I (Robert) (?)
NB: There seems to be disagreement about the descent from Chrodobert (Robert).
     I. Genealogics shows
1 Chrodobertus (Robert), nobleman in Neustria, courtier of Dagobert I
     2 Lambert (I) (Lantbertus), Referendarius to Dagobert I, King of Neustria d. Aft 650
          3 Chrodobertus (Robert), Count Palatine, Chancellor of Chlotar III m. Doda|Detta
               4 Lambert (II) (Lantbertus) d. Bef 741 m. Chrotlind
                    5 Rutpert I, Duke in Haspengau m. Williswint
Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:10.
2. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Fürstliche Häuser 1961 9.
3. Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. 13.



     II. Genealogy.EU (Capet 1) follows Genealogics, showing:
A1. Chrodobertus=Robert, living 630
     B1. Lambert I, +after 650
          C1. Chrodobertus=Robert II, m.Doda N
               D1. Ct Lambert II, living 741
                    E1. Robert I, Duke in Haspengau


     III. Med Lands argues that there were two Mairodomos, named CHRODBERT [Robert] [I] and CHRODBERT [Robert] [II], and shows no relation between them.
Chrodbert #1 per Med Lands:
     "CHRODBERT [Robert] [I] . The Vita Lantberti names "Hrotbertus ac Haltbertus" as "avunculi" of "Lambertus vir…nobilissimi generis prosapia ortus", specifying that "Hrotbertus" was "summus palatii referendarius"[513]. Referendarius of King Dagobert I 8 Apr 630. Anulus of King Clotaire III. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[514], Chrodbert [I] and his brothers were sons of "Charibert nobilis in Neustria †635". No reference has been found to this person in any of the primary sources so far consulted and it has been decided to omit him until a positive identification can be made.
     "m ---. The name of Chrodbert’s wife is not known.
     "Chrodbert [I] & his wife had one child:
     "a) ANGADRISMA ."

Here Med Lands cites:
[513] Vita Lantberti Abbatis Fontanellensis et episcopi Lugdunensis 1, MGH SS rer. Merov. V, p. 608.
[514] ES II 10.
[515] Vita Ansberti Episcopi Rotomagensis 2 and 3, MGH SS rer. Merov. V, pp. 620 and 621.



Chrodbert #2 per Med Lands:
     "CHRODBERT [Robert] [II] (-before 12 Sep 677). According to Europäische Stammtafeln[519], Chrodbert [II] was the son of "Lambert [I] nobilis in Neustria †after 650", who in turn was the son of Chrodbert [I] (see above). No reference has been found to "Lambert [I]" in any of the primary sources so far consulted and it has been decided to omit him until a positive identification can be made. "Chlodovius rex Francorum" confirmed the privileges of the abbey of St Denis by charter dated 22 Jun 653, subscribed by "…Chradoberctus…"[520]. Chancellor for King Clothar III 658. "Childericus rex Francorum, Chadicho duce, Rodeberto comite" donated property to the monastery of St Gregory in Alsace by charter dated 4 Mar 673, the editor of the compilation identifying "Rodeberto comite" as "comes Alsatiæ superioris sive Sundgaviæ"[521]. Comes palatinus 2 Oct 678.
     "m DODA, daughter of --- (-before 12 Sep 677). The Vita Leudegarii names "Rotpertus et uxor Tota"[522]. "Theudericus rex Francorum" donated property held by "Detta relicta Chrodoberctho quondam" to "Chainoni diacono" by charter dated 12 Sep 677[523].
     "Chrodbert [II] & his wife had [one possible child]:
     "a) [LAMBERT [II] (-before 741)."

Med Lands cites:
[519] ES II 10.
[520] MGH DD Mer (1872), Diplomata Regum Francorum, no. 19, p. 19.
[521] MGH DD Mer (1872), Diplomata Regum Francorum, no. 30, p. 29, footnote 43.
[522] Vita Beati Leudegarii Martyris I, MGH Poetæ Latini ævi Carolini III, p. 23.
[523] MGH DD Mer (1872), Diplomata Regum Francorum, no. 47, p. 43.
[524] ES II 10.
[525] Gestorum Abbatum Trudonensium Continuatio Tertia, I, 7, MGH SS X, p. 371.



From here, the descent to the Rutpert I shown as #5 in Genealogic's descent, is as follows:
1 CHRODBERT [Robert] [II] (-before 12 Sep 677)
2 [LAMBERT [II] (-before 741)
3 ROBERT [I] ([700/10]-before 764) Comte de Hesbaie m ([730]) WILLISWINDA
Conclusion: It seems that:
1. Genealogics' 3 Chrodobertus (Robert) matches Med Lands CHRODBERT [Robert] [I], and
2. Genealogics' 3 Chrodobertus (Robert), Count Palatine matches Med Lands' 1 CHRODBERT [Robert] [II]

This leaves the questions for Med Lands of:
1. If we accept that there may have been two Chrodbert's, who was Genealogic's Lambert I?
2. What was the relationship between the two Chrodberts?

I have chosen to use the Genealogics/Genealogy.EU lineage. GA Vaut.4,12,13,3,5

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet1.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lambert (II) (Lantbertus): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020377&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Chrodobertus (Robert): https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020375&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKSMaiordomi.htm. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lambert (II) (Lantbertus): https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020377&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Doda/Detta: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020376&tree=LEO
  7. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambert,_Count_of_Hesbaye. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 48-12, p. 50. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  9. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Lambert de Hesbaye: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambert_de_Hesbaye. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Chrotlind: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00220725&tree=LEO
  11. [S792] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johanson, Susan Johanson (unknown location), downloaded updated 29 June 2001, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=johanson&id=I09443
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Chrodobertus (Robert): https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076150&tree=LEO
  13. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 28 June 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  14. [S4742] Wikipédia (FR), online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landrade_de_Hesbaye
  15. [S1953] Wikipedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotrude_of_Hesbaye
  16. [S4745] "The Ancestors of Charlemagne: Addendum to Addenda", The Ancestors of Charlemagne: Addendum to Addenda, online http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~medieval/addcharlENG.pdf, printout dated 2000. Previously published in hard copy (n.p.: n.pub., 2000). Hereinafter cited as "Settipani [2000] Ancestors of Charlemagne."
  17. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rutpert I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020378&tree=LEO
  18. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANCONIA.htm#Robertdiedbefore764B

Dode (Clothilde) Heristal

F, #5103, b. 586, d. after 640
FatherArnoldus (?) Bishop of Metz; Stone shows this as a possible relationship1
ReferenceGAV35
Last Edited7 Sep 2020
     Dode (Clothilde) Heristal was born in 586 at Old Saxony, Germany.2 She married Saint Arnulf (Arnould) (?) Bishop of Metz, son of Bodegeisel II (?) of Schelde and Saint Oda (?) of Savoy, circa 596; Genealogy.EU (Carolin 2 page) says m. 611.3,4
Dode (Clothilde) Heristal died after 640.4
     Dode (Clothilde) Heristal and Saint Arnulf (Arnould) (?) Bishop of Metz
Per Med Lands:
     "ARNOUL [Arnulf], son of [ARNOLD & his wife ---] ([580/85]-Remiremont 18 Jul [640], bur Remiremont, later transferred to Metz, basilique de Saint-Arnoul). The origins of Arnulf are unknown. The Vita Sancti Arnulfi names "Arnulfus episcopus prosapia genitus Francorum" but gives no further details of his ancestry[51]. The Gesta Episcoporum Mettensis names "Arnulfus…ex nobilissimo fortissimoque Francorum stemmate ortus", with no further information on his parentage, as ninth bishop of Metz and "palatii moderator"[52]. A 9th century genealogy names "beatum Arnulfum episcopum" as the son of Arnold[53]. Settipani points out that this genealogy forms part of a series compiled at Metz, from the late 8th century onwards, which glorify the ancestry of the Carolingian dynasty by establishing descent from the early Merovingians as well as from a family of Roman senatorial origin[54]. Further confusion is added by the Gesta Episcoporum Mettensis which names "Agiulfus" as sixth bishop of Metz, stating that "patre ex nobili senatorum familia orto, ex Chlodovei regis Francorum filia procreatus", and that "nepos ipsius…Arnoaldus" succeeded him as bishop[55], the alleged senatorial and Merovingian ancestry appearing to provide the basis for the 9th century genealogy although the latter assigns the descent to what appears to be a different Arnold. The Gesta Episcoporum Mettensis makes no family connection between Arnulf and his predecessor bishops. Another genealogy from the 8th/9th century names "Buotgisus" as father of "Arnulfum…episcopum urbis Metensium", although the editor of the Monumenta Germaniæ in which this is published cites another source which names "Burtgisus, qui a multis cognominatur Arnoaldus" although the dating of the latter is unclear[56]. Arnulf entered the service of Theodebert King of Austrasia, becoming intendant of the royal domains. Together with Warnachar, maior domus of the palace of Burgundy, he helped King Clotaire II defeat King Sigebert II and the latter's great-grandmother Queen Brunechildis in 613[57]. Sigeberto's Vita Landiberto episcopi Traiectensis names "Pippinus…principes Francorum…paterni avi eius Arnulfi", specifying that he was "primo maior domus regis post Mettensis episcopus"[58], although no other document has yet been identified which indicates that Arnulf held the position of maior domus in Austrasia. He was elected Bishop of Metz, dated to [613]: the Vita Sancti Arnulfi records that "Arnulfum domesticum adque consiliarium regis" was appointed as bishop of Metz[59]. Arnulf retired to the monastery of Remiremont, Vosges, dated to [629]. A charter dated 20 Feb 691 of "Pippinus filius Ansegisili quondam necnon…matrone mea Plectrudis" donating property to the church of St Arnulf at Metz specifies that "domnus et avus noster Arnulphus" was buried in the church[60]. A list of bishops of Metz records "Arnulfus" as 29th bishop, that he held the position for 10 years, and that he died "XVII Kal Sep"[61]. Sigebert's late 11th century Chronica records the death of "Sanctus Arnulfus ex maiore domus Mettensium episcopus, et ex episcopo solitarius" in 640[62].
     "m [DODA], daughter of --- (-after [640]). The Vita Sancti Arnulfi records that Arnulf married "inclitam et nobilissimam...puellam" but gives no further details about her[63]. The 11th century Vita Chlodulfi Episcopi names “mater…Chlodulfi Doda”[64]. Settipani suggests that this source is “de médiocre valeur”[65]. Sigebert's late 11th century Chronica records that "Doda mater...Clodulfi" retired to Trier as a nun, based on the same source[66]. "
Med Lands cites:
[51] Vita Sancti Arnulfi 1, MGH SS rer. Merov. II, p. 432.
[52] Pauli Gesta Episcoporum Mettensis , MGH SS 2, p. 264.
[53] Genealogiæ Karolorum I, MGH SS XIII, p. 245.
[54] Settipani, C. 'L'apport de l'onomastique dans l'étude des genealogies carolingiennes', Keats-Rohan, K. S. B. and Settipani, C. (eds.) (2000) Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident medieval (Prosopographica et Genealogica, Vol. 3), p. 186.
[55] Pauli Gesta Episcoporum Mettensis , MGH SS 2, p. 264.
[56] Genealogiæ Karolorum III, MGH SS XIII, p. 246, footnote 1 citing Meurisse Hist. de Metz, p. 85.
[57] McKitterick (1983), p. 22.
[58] Vita Landberti episcopi Traiectensis Auctore Sigeberto xvi, MGH SS rer. Merov. VI, p. 397.
[59] Vita Sancti Arnulfi 7, MGH SS rer. Merov. II, p. 434.
[60] MGH DD Mer (1872), Diplomata Maiorum Domus ex stirpe Arnulforum, no. 2, p. 92.
[61] Catalogus Episcoporum Mettensium, MGH SS 2, p. 269.
[62] Sigeberti Chronica 640, MGH SS VI, p. 324.
[63] Vita Sancti Arnulfi 5, MGH SS rer. Merov. II, p. 433.
[64] Ex Vita S. Chlodulfi Episcopi Mettensis, RHGF, Tome III, p. 542, and Acta Sanctorum, June II, De Sancto Chlodulpho Episcopo Metensi, Caput I, p. 127.
[65] Settipani (1993), p. 148.4


Dode (Clothilde) Heristal and Saint Arnulf (Arnould) (?) Bishop of Metz
Per Weis (Line 190-8, p. 178): “St. Arnulf, b. abt. 13 Aug. 582. Mayor of the Palace and tutor of Dagobert, Bishop of Metz, d. 16 Aug. 640; m. abt. 596, Dode (180-8), who became a nun at Treves 612. (They were also the parents of St. Clodulf, Bishop of Metz abt. 650, d. 690)."


Per Weis (Line 180-8, p. 171): “Dode (clothilde); m. St. Arnulf (190-8). (Gens. 1-8: Don C. Stone, Some Ancient and Medieval Descents of Edward I of England, (Philadelphi, PA, 2003) Chart 50:"Descent from Flavius Afranius Syagrius)."5,6

Dode (Clothilde) Heristal and Saint Arnulf (Arnould) (?) Bishop of Metz
Per Genealogy.EU (Carolin 2): “St.Arnulf, Bp of Metz (612-627), Maiordomus of Dagobert I of Austrasia, *ca 582, +641; m. 611 Dode/Ode (Clothilde)”.7 GAV-35.

Dode (Clothilde) Heristal
This is the same person as ”Dode de Metz” at Wikipédia (FR) and as "Doda d' Heristal" at Geneagraphie.8,9

Family

Saint Arnulf (Arnould) (?) Bishop of Metz b. c 13 Aug 582, d. 18 Jul 640
Children

Citations

  1. [S737] Compiler Don Charles Stone, Some Ancient and Medieval Descents (n.p.: Ancient and Medieval Descents Project
    2401 Pennsylvania Ave., #9B-2B
    Philadelphia, PA 19130-3034
    Tel: 215-232-6259
    e-mail address
    or e-mail address
    copyright 1995, 1998, 1999, 2000, unknown publish date), line 50-7.
  2. [S616] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 26 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 18, Ed. 1, Family #18-0770 (n.p.: Release date: March 27, 1998, unknown publish date).
  3. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 190-8, p. 163. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKSMaiordomi.htm#Arnouldied640. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 190-8, p. 178.. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
  6. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, Line 180-8, p. 171.
  7. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin2.html
  8. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Dode de Metz: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dode_de_Metz. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  9. [S4743] Geneagraphie - Families all over the world (Website), online <http://geneagraphie.com/>, Doda d' Heristal: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I15758&tree=1. Hereinafter cited as Geneagraphie.
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Ermengarde/Irmingard (?) of Hesbaye, Queen of the Franks, Empress1,2,3,4,5

F, #5104, b. circa 778, d. 3 October 818
FatherIngram (Ingeramne) (?) Count of Hesbaye6,7,8,2,3,5
MotherRotrude (?)8,3
ReferenceGAV32 EDV32
Last Edited17 Sep 2020
     Ermengarde/Irmingard (?) of Hesbaye, Queen of the Franks, Empress was born circa 778 at Hesbaye, Arrondissement de Liège, Wallonia, Belgium; Genealogy.EU says b. ca 778; Med Lands says b. 775/80.9,10,7,3 She married Louis I "The Pious, The Fair, le Debonnaire" (?) King of Aquitaine, King of the Franks, Emperor of the West, son of Charlemagne (?) King of the Franks and Emperor of the West and Hildegardis (?) of Swabia, Countess of Vinzgau, Queen of the Franks, circa 794;
His 1st wife.11,12,13,7,14,15,2,3,5
Ermengarde/Irmingard (?) of Hesbaye, Queen of the Franks, Empress died on 3 October 818 at Angers, Departement de Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France.12,7,2,3,5
     Ermengarde/Irmingard (?) of Hesbaye, Queen of the Franks, Empress and Louis I "The Pious, The Fair, le Debonnaire" (?) King of Aquitaine, King of the Franks, Emperor of the West
Per Med Lands:
     "LOUIS [Hludowic], son of CHARLES I King of the Franks & his second wife Hildegard (Chasseneuil-du-Poitou [16 Apr/Sep] 778-island in the Rhine near Ingelheim 20 Jun 840, bur Metz, église abbatiale de Saint-Arnoul[189]). He is named, and his parentage recorded, in the Gesta Mettensium, which specifies that he was his parents' third son, born a twin with his brother Hlothar[190]. Crowned King of the Aquitainians in Rome 15 Apr 781 by Pope Hadrian I. His armies occupied Girona, Urgel and Cerdanya in 785 and besieged Barcelona in 802, establishing the "March of Spain"[191]. At the partition of territories agreed at Thionville in 806, he was designated sovereign of Aquitaine, Gascony, Septimania, Provence and southern Burgundy. His father named him as his successor at Aix-la-Chapelle, crowning him as joint emperor 11 Sep 813[192]. On his father's death, he adopted the title Emperor LOUIS I “der Fromme/le Pieux” 2 Feb 814, and was crowned at Reims [Jul/Aug] 816 by Pope Stephen IV. He did not use the titles king of the Franks or king of Italy so as to emphasise the unity of the empire[193]. He promulgated the Ordinatio Imperii at Worms in 817, which established his eldest son as his heir, his younger sons having a subordinate status, a decision which was eventually to lead to civil war between his sons. His nephew Bernard King of Italy, ignored in the Ordinatio Imperii, rebelled against his uncle, but was defeated and killed. After his death, Italy was placed under the direct rule of the emperor. Emperor Louis crowned his son Lothaire as joint emperor at Aix-la-Chapelle in Jul 817, his primary status over his brothers being confirmed once more at the assembly of Nijmegen 1 May 821. In Nov 824, Emperor Louis placed Pope Eugene II under his protection, effectively subordinating the papal role to that of the emperor. The birth of his son Charles by his second marriage in 823 worsened relations with his sons by his first marriage, the tension being further increased when Emperor Louis invested Charles with Alemannia, Rhætia, Alsace and part of Burgundy at Worms in Aug 829, reducing the territory of his oldest son Lothaire to Italy. His older sons revolted in Mar 830 and captured their father at Compiègne, forcing him to revert to the 817 constitutional arrangements. However, Emperor Louis reasserted his authority at the assemblies of Nijmegen in Oct 830 and Aix-la-Chapelle in Feb 831, depriving Lothaire of the imperial title and relegating him once more to Italy. A further revolt of the brothers followed. Emperor Louis was defeated and deposed by his sons at Compiègne 1 Oct 833. He was exiled to the monastery of Saint-Médard de Soissons. His eldest son Lothaire declared himself sole emperor but was soon overthrown by his brothers Pépin and Louis, who freed their father. Emperor Louis was crowned once more at Metz 28 Feb 835. He proposed yet another partition of territories in favour of his son Charles at the assembly of Aix-la-Chapelle in 837, implemented at the assembly of Worms 28 May 839 when he installed his sons Lothaire and Charles jointly, setting aside the claims of his sons Pépin and Louis. This naturally led to revolts by Pépin in Aquitaine and Louis in Germany, which their father was in the process of suppressing when he died[194]. The Annales Fuldenses record the death "in insulam quondam Rheni fluminis prope Ingilenheim XII Kal Iul 840" of Emperor Louis and his burial "Mettis civitatem…in basilica sancti Arnulfi"[195]. The necrology of Prüm records the death "840 12 Kal Iul" of "Ludvicus imperator"[196]. The necrology of St Gall records the death "XII Kal Jul" of "Hludowicus imperator in insula Rheni quiæ est sita iuxta palatium Ingelheim"[197]. The Obituaire de Notre-Dame de Paris records the death "XII Kal Jul" of "Ludovicus imperator"[198]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "XII Kal Jul" of "Ludovicus imperator"[199]. The necrology of Saint-Germain-des-Prés records the death 840 “XII Kal Jul” of “Hludovuici imperatoris”[200].
     "m firstly ([794]) ERMENGARD, daughter of ENGUERRAND Comte [de Hesbaye] & his wife --- ([775/80]-Angers 3 Oct 818[201], bur Angers). Thegan's Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names the wife of Emperor Ludwig "filiam nobilissimi ducis Ingorammi…Irmingarda"[202]. The Gesta Francorum records the death "818 V Non Oct" of "Irmingardis regina"[203]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records the death "V Non Oct" of "Hirmingardis regina" three days after falling ill[204].
     "m secondly (Aix-la-Chapelle Feb 819) JUDITH, daughter of WELF [I] Graf [von Altdorf] & his wife Heilwig --- ([805]-Tours 19 Apr 843, bur Tours Saint-Martin). The Annales Xantenses record the marriage in Feb 819 of "Ludewicus imperator" and "Iudith"[205]. Thegan names "filiam Hwelfi ducis sui, qui erat de nobolissima progenie Bawariorum…Iudith…ex parte matris…Eigilwi nobilissimi generic Saxonici" as second wife of Emperor Ludwig, specifying that she was "enim pulchra valde"[206]. Einhard's Annales record that Emperor Louis chose "Huelpi comitis filiam…Judith" as his wife in 819 after "inspectis plerisque nobelium filiabus"[207]. Judith was influential with her husband, which increased the tensions with the emperor's sons by his first marriage. Thegan's Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that "quondam duce Bernhardo, qui erat de stirpe regali" was accused of violating "Iudith reginam" but comments that this was all lies[208]. Judith was exiled to the monastery of Sainte-Croix de Poitiers during the first rebellion of her stepsons in 830, was released in 831, but exiled again to Tortona in Italy in 833 from where she was brought back in Apr 834[209]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "XIII Kal Mai" of "Judith regina"[210]. The Annales Xantenses record the death in 843 of "Iudhit imperatrix mater Karoli" at Tours[211]. The necrology of Saint-Germain-des-Prés records the death 843 “XIII Kal Mai” of “Judidh imperatricis”[212].
     "Mistress (1): ---. The name of Emperor Lothar's mistress or mistresses is not known. "
Med Lands Cites:
[189] Nithard I.8, p. 140.
[190] Pauli Gesta Episcop. Mettensium, MGH SS II, p. 265.
[191] Settipani, C. and Kerrebrouck, P. van (1993) La préhistoire des Capétiens 481-987, 1ère partie, Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (Villeneuve d'Ascq), p. 250.
[192] RFA 813, p. 95.
[193] Settipani (1993), p. 252.
[194] Settipani (1993), pp. 252-3.
[195] Annales Fuldensium Pars Secunda, auctore Euodolfo 840, MGH SS I, p. 362.
[196] Annales Necrologici Prumienses, MGH SS XIII, p. 219.
[197] Libri Anniversariorum et Necrologium Monasterii Sancti Galli, Konstanz Necrologies, p. 462.
[198] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Obituaire de Notre-Dame de Paris, p. 227.
[199] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Saint-Denis, p. 320.
[200] Longnon ‘Obituaire de l’abbaye de Saint-Germain des Prés’, p. 23.
[201] RFA 818, p. 104.
[202] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 4, MGH SS II, p. 591.
[203] Gesta quorundam regum Francorum 818, MGH SS I, p. 356.
[204] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 31, MGH SS II, p. 623.
[205] Annales Xantenses 819, MGH SS II, p. 224.
[206] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 26, MGH SS II, p. 596.
[207] Einhardi Annales 819, MGH SS I, p. 206.
[208] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 36, MGH SS II, p. 597.
[209] Settipani (1993), pp. 254-5.
[210] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Saint-Denis, p. 315.
[211] Annales Xantenses 843, MGH SS II, p. 227.
[212] Longnon ‘Obituaire de l’abbaye de Saint-Germain des Prés’, p. 23.14


Ermengarde/Irmingard (?) of Hesbaye, Queen of the Franks, Empress and Louis I "The Pious, The Fair, le Debonnaire" (?) King of Aquitaine, King of the Franks, Emperor of the West
Per Genealogy.EU (Carolin 1): “A5. [3m.] Louis I "the Fair", *Casseuil-sur-Garonne VIII.778, +Ingelheim 20.6.840, bur.St.Arnold (Ger), King of Aquitania (781-814), King of Franks and Italy (814-833)+(834-840), Holy Roman Emperor (814/16-840); 1m: 798 Empress Ermengarde of Hesbaye, daughter of Ingeramme of Hesbaye (*Hesbaye, Liege ca 778, +Angers 3.10.818); 2m: Aken II.819 Judith von Altdorf (*800 +Tours 19.4.843)”.1

Reference: Genealogics cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 68.16

Ermengarde/Irmingard (?) of Hesbaye, Queen of the Franks, Empress
This is the same person as ”Ermengarde of Hesbaye” at Wikipedia, as ”Ermengarde de Hesbaye” at Wikipédia (FR), and as ”Irmingard von Hespengau” at Wikipedia (DE).


This is also the same person as "Ermengarde" at The Henry Project.17,4,18,5 GAV-32 EDV-32 GKJ-33.

Ermengarde/Irmingard (?) of Hesbaye, Queen of the Franks, Empress and Louis I "The Pious, The Fair, le Debonnaire" (?) King of Aquitaine, King of the Franks, Emperor of the West
Per Med Lands:
     "ERMENGARD ([775/80]-Angers 3 Oct 818, bur Angers). Thegan's Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names the wife of Emperor Louis "filiam nobilissimi ducis Ingorammi…Irmingarda"[199]. The Gesta Francorum records the death "818 V Non Oct" of "Irmingardis regina"[200]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records the death "V Non Oct" of "Hirmingardis regina" three days after falling ill[201].
     "m ([794]) as his first wife, LOUIS King of the Aquitainians, son of CHARLES I "Charlemagne" King of the Franks & his second wife Hildegard (Chasseneuil-du-Poitou [16 Apr/Sep] 778-island in the Rhine near Ingelheim 20 Jun 840, bur Metz, église abbatiale de Saint-Arnoul). He was crowned Emperor LOUIS I “der Fromme/le Pieux” in 816."
Med Lands cites:
[199] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 4, MGH SS II, p. 591.
[200] Gesta quorundam regum Francorum 818, MGH SS I, p. 356.
[201] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 31, MGH SS II, p. 623.3

Citations

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    Volume 1 - Eastern Shore Counties
    (Silver Spring, MD: Family Line Publications, 2005), line 140-14, p. 133. Hereinafter cited as MD Militia in the War of 1812.
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Ingram (Ingeramne) (?) Count of Hesbaye

M, #5105
FatherSigram (?) of Hesbaye1,2
ReferenceGAV33 EDV33
Last Edited16 Sep 2020
     Ingram (Ingeramne) (?) Count of Hesbaye died at France.3 He was born at France.3 He married Rotrude (?)2
     GAV-33 EDV-33 GKJ-34.

Ingram (Ingeramne) (?) Count of Hesbaye
(an unknown value.)3

Citations

  1. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigramnus,_Count_of_Hesbaye. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
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Gunderland Hesbain

M, #5106, d. 778
FatherSigramine (?) Count of Hesbaye1
MotherLandrade (?) de Hebaye1
Last Edited14 Nov 2019
     Gunderland Hesbain was born at France.2
Gunderland Hesbain died in 778 at France.2
     He was Monk at Gorze.1

Citations

  1. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigramnus,_Count_of_Hesbaye. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
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Sigramine (?) Count of Hesbaye1,2

M, #5107
ReferenceGAV35 EDV35
Last Edited27 Oct 2019
     Sigramine (?) Count of Hesbaye married Landrade (?) de Hebaye, daughter of Lantbertus II (Lambert) (?) of Hesbaye and Chrotlind (?).1,3,4
     GAV-35 EDV-35 GKJ-36.

Sigramine (?) Count of Hesbaye
(an unknown value.)5

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin2.html
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Landrade (?)1,2

F, #5108
FatherCharles Martel "the Hammer" (?) King of the Franks2,1,3,4 b. 23 Aug 688, d. 22 Oct 741
MotherChrotrud/Rotrou/Rotrude (?) of Austrasia2,5,6 b. 690, d. 22 Oct 724
Last Edited14 Sep 2020
     GKJ-36.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 731.7,1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Landrade: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00201703&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
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Suanhilde/Suanachildis (?)1,2

F, #5109, d. after 17 September 741
FatherTassilo II (?) Herzog von Bayern3,2
ReferenceGAV35 EDV35
Last Edited14 Sep 2020
     Suanhilde/Suanachildis (?) married Charles Martel "the Hammer" (?) King of the Franks, son of Pepin II "le Gros/d'Herstal" (?) of Heristal and AlpaisChalpaida/AlpaidaAlpaïdis (?) of Saxony, in 725;
His 2nd wife.4,2,5,6,7
Suanhilde/Suanachildis (?) was buried after 17 September 741 at Convent of Chelles (Defunct), Chelles, Departement de Seine-et-Marne, Île-de-France, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     unknown
     DEATH     unknown
     Frankish nobility. Also known as Suanachildis or Suanhilde. Her exact parentage is not known, but it seems her uncle was Duke Odilo of Bavaria. When Charles Martel invaded Bavaria in 725 she and her aunt Pilitruds were captured and taken to Austrasia. He married her after the death of his first wife. At his death, he left the realm to his three sons, Carloman, Pepin, and Grifo. Carloman and Pepin however soon agreed to ignore the rights of the much younger Grifo and divided the power among themselves. She supported her son when he tried to regain a portion of his inheritance. After his defeat, she was sent to Chelles where she died at an unknown time.
     Family Members
     Spouse
          Charles of the Franks 676–741
     BURIAL     Convent of Chelles (Defunct), Chelles, Departement de Seine-et-Marne, Île-de-France, France
     Created by: Lutetia
     Added: 14 Jun 2014
     Find a Grave Memorial 131391275.8
Suanhilde/Suanachildis (?) died after 17 September 741.4
     Suanhilde/Suanachildis (?) was a witness to the Per Genealogy.EU (Carolin 2): “C3. Charles Martell, Maiordomus in Austrasia (719-741), Duke of Franks (737-741), *689, +Quiercy-sur-Oise 22.10.741, bur St.Denis; 1m: Chrotrude (*ca 690 +ca 724), dau.of Leutwinus, Bp of Trier; 2m: Suanahilde/Sonichilde N” with Charles Martel "the Hammer" (?) King of the Franks and Chrotrud/Rotrou/Rotrude (?) of Austrasia.9

Suanhilde/Suanachildis (?)
This is the same person as ”Swanachild” at Wikipedia, as ”Swanahilde” at Wikipédia (FR), and as ”Swanahild” at Wikipedia (DE).10,11,12

Reference: Genealogics cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 52.7

Suanhilde/Suanachildis (?)
Per Royaume Europe (Duché de Bavière): "Swanahildis d? Bavariæ, Swanahilde de Bavière, Suanahild von Bayern née vers 705 et décédée après le 17 septembre 741. Épouse en 725 Carolus Franc?cus né vers 690 et décédé le 22 octobre 741 à Quierzy-sur-Oise fils de Pippinus s?cundus d? Heristalium et de Alpaïs de Bruyères“


Per Royaume Europe (Duché d’Austrasie): "Épouse en 725 Swanahildis d? Bavariæ née ~ 705 et décédée après le 17 septembre 741 fille de Né(e) d? Bavariæ
     Griffon d? Franciæ né vers 725 et tué en 753 à Saint-Jean de Maurienne — le Comté de Paris."13,14 GAV-35 EDV-35 GKJ-37.

Suanhilde/Suanachildis (?) and Charles Martel "the Hammer" (?) King of the Franks
Per Med Lands:
     "SUANACHILDIS [Suanhilde] (-after 17 Sep 741). The precise parentage of Suanachildis is not known. The Continuator of Fredegar records that "matrona quondam…Beletrude et nepta sua Sunnichilde" were captured and taken to Austrasia by Charles "Martel" in [724/25][79]. Einhard names "Swannhilde neptem Odilonis ducis Baioariorum" as the mother of Grifo[80]. The precise relationship between Suanhilde and Pilitrude, who was the wife in turn of the brothers Grimoald and Theodoald, has not been identified. She instigated the marriage of her stepdaughter to Odilo Duke of Bavaria according to the Continuator of Fredegar[81]. After the death of her husband, she incited her son to rebel against her stepsons. She was defeated and sent to the monastery of Chelles, Seine-et-Marne. "Karlus maiorum domus filius Pippini quondam" donated property "villa Clippiacum in pago Parisiaco" to the abbey of St Denis by charter dated 17 Sep 741, subscribed by "Radberti comitis, Raygaubaldi comitis, Salaconis comitis, matrone Sonechildis, Grifonis filii sui"[82].
     "m (725) as his second wife, CHARLES “Martel” maiordomus of Austrasia and Neustria, son of PEPIN "le Gros" or "d'Herstal" & his second wife Chalpais [Alpais] ([690]-Quierzy-sur-Oise, Aisne 22 Oct 741, bur église de l'abbaye royale de Saint Denis). "
Med Lands cites:
[79] Fredegar (Continuation), 12, MGH SS rer Merov II, p. 175.
[80] Annales Einhardi 741, MGH SS I, p. 135.
[81] Fredegar (Continuator), 25, MGH SS rer Merov II, p. 180.
[82] MGH Diplomatum Imperii I, Diplomata Maiorum Domum, no. 14, p. 101.4

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Swanahild: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020928&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAVARIA.htm#Suanhilde. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAVARIA.htm#_Toc489003160
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin2.html
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Charles Martel: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020918&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKSMaiordomi.htm#CharlesMarteldied741B
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Swanahild: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020928&tree=LEO
  8. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 14 September 2020), memorial page for Swanahild (unknown–unknown), Find a Grave Memorial no. 131391275, citing Convent of Chelles (Defunct), Chelles, Departement de Seine-et-Marne, Île-de-France, France; Maintained by Lutetia (contributor 46580078), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/131391275/swanahild. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  9. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin2.html
  10. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swanachild. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  11. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Swanahilde: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swanahilde. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  12. [S4759] Wikipedia - Die freie Enzyklopädie, online https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hauptseite, Swanahild: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swanahild. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (DE).
  13. [S4805] Royaume Europe, online <https://royaumeurope.wordpress.com/>, d?c?t?s d? Bavariæ?—?Duché de Bavière: https://royaumeurope.wordpress.com/duc/baviere/#bavi%C3%A8re_5d. Hereinafter cited as Royaume Europe.
  14. [S4805] Royaume Europe, online https://royaumeurope.wordpress.com/, d?c?t?s ad-Austrasiæ?—?Duché d’Austrasie: https://royaumeurope.wordpress.com/duc/austrasie/
  15. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I44326

Tassilo II (?) Herzog von Bayern1,2

M, #5110
FatherTheodo II/V (?) Duke of Bavaria1,3 b. b 665, d. 11 Dec 718
MotherRegintrude/Folchaid (?)3 b. c 645, d. b 678
ReferenceGAV36 EDV36
Last Edited14 Sep 2020

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAVARIA.htm#_Toc489003160. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S4743] Geneagraphie - Families all over the world (Website), online <http://geneagraphie.com/>, Herzog Tassilo von Bayern, II: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I386860&tree=1. Hereinafter cited as Geneagraphie.
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAVARIA.htm#Suanhilde

Berthe de Tosny1,2

F, #5112
FatherNN de Tosny3,4,5 d. c 1023
ReferenceGAV25
Last Edited27 Sep 2020
     Berthe de Tosny married Guy I de Laval Sire de Laval, son of Geoffroy de Laval Sire de Laval, between 1010 and 1015;
His 1st wife.6,7,8,9
     Berthe de Tosny and Guy I de Laval Sire de Laval
Per Med Lands: SEIGNEURS de LAVAL
     "The castle of Laval was situated on the banks of the river Mayenne and was constructed by Guy [I] Seigneur de Laval, as shown by two charters which describe him as "Guido, castri quod Vallis nuncupatur, in pago Cynnomennensi conditor atque possessor"[166], who was a vassal of the comtes du Maine. No indication has been found about his parentage or origin. Broussillon suggests that he must have taken possession of Laval in [1020][167].
     "The genealogy of the first dynasty of seigneurs de Laval has been the subject of much confusion over the years. The main problem in reconstructing the family is that six out of the seven early seigneurs de Laval were named Guy, five of whom succeeded in a direct line from father to son. This makes it harder to identify the specific person to whom undated primary sources relate. Some early secondary sources misinterpreted the sources and incorrectly concluded that there were seven seigneurs de Laval named Guy, instead of six. This introduced a hypothetical additional generation into the genealogy which caused a great deal of confusion. Broussillon appears to have been the first author to find his way accurately through the maze[168]. His structure provides the basis for the reconstruction set out below, with some minor modifications and additions. The primary sources which Broussillon collected do provide sufficiently accurate information to assert that this reconstruction is definitive and that there were only six seigneurs de Laval named Guy. However, even Broussillon was confused about the numbering of the seigneurs de Laval. The difficulty is that Guy [IV] described himself as "Guido quintus" in a charter dated to [1150] under which he donated profits from a fair to the Knights Hospitallers of Jerusalem[169]. At first sight this suggests that there must have been four earlier seigneurs de Laval named Guy. The solution to the difficulty is found in one of the charters of his son Guy [V] who is called "Guido dominus sextus de Lavalle" in his donation to Olivet priory dated to [1205][170]. The appropriate translation of this phrase is (adding punctuation) "Guy, sixth lord of Laval" not "Guy the sixth, lord of Laval". The former is an accurate description of him when we remember that Hamon Seigneur de Laval, son of Guy [I], was the second sire de Laval. It is reasonable therefore to assume that the reference to “Guido quintus” represents a contraction of the complete phrase “Guido dominus quintus de Lavalle”. It is suggested that the Laval family in England descended from Hugues, son of Hamon Seigneur de Laval.
     "The first dynasty of seigneurs de Laval became extinct in the male line on the death in 1211 of Guy [VI]. The castle passed to his sister Emma and to her children by her second husband Mathieu [II] Seigneur de Montmorency (who was constable of France).
     "GUY [I] de Laval ([980/90]-before 26 Feb 1062). Seigneur de Laval. "Wido" relinquished rights to the chapter of Le Mans, before leaving for Jerusalem, with the consent of "Haimo, supra scripti Guidonis filius et uxor eius Hersendis filiique eorum Guido…et Hugo", by charter dated 11 Nov 1039[171]. The date of this charter is open to doubt, particularly because two of the known children of Guy’s grandson Guy [II] must have been born in the last decade of the 11th century. In addition, Guy [I] himself would have been unusually old when he died if he already had grandchildren in 1039. "…Guidonis de Valle filiorumque suorum Johannis et Hamonis" consented to a donation by "Fulcodius" to Marmoutier by charter dated to [1040][172]. The monks of Marmoutier record a donation by "Guido, castri quod Vallis nuncupatur, in pago Cynnomennensi conditor atque possessor", at the request of "Johannis filii sui monachi nostri", with the consent of "Haimone atque Guidone filiis suis…Gervasium…tres his…sorores Hildesindem, Agnetem, Hildeburgem", by charter dated to [1050][173]. The monks of Marmoutier record a donation by "Guido, castri…Vallis…in pago Cenomannensi conditorem ac possessorem", with the consent of "suorumque filiorum…Haimonis…Gervasii atque Guidonis, simulque Agnetis", by charter dated to [1050], witnessed by "…Rotrudis uxor predicti Widonis, Gualterius filius eius…"[174]. The date of his death is set by the charter dated 26 Feb 1062, witnessed by "…Haimo de Lavalle…", which records an agreement of confraternity between Saint-Maurice d’Angers and La Trinité de Vendôme[175]. Guillaume II Duke of Normandy settled a claim in favour of the monks of Marmoutier relating to property donated by "Guido de Valle" by charter dated 1064, which names "Iohannem monachum filium suum" and is witnessed by "…Hamo de Valle filius Guidonis…"[176]. This document does not state that Guy was alive at that date.
     "m firstly ([1010/15]) BERTHE de Tosny, daughter of ---. Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated [Sep/14 Oct] 1055 under which the monks of Marmoutier record the donations by "quemdam militem…Johannem pagi Cenomannensis indigenum, Widonis de Valle filium" of property "in Normannia, territorio Vilcassino…ecclesiam in villa…Guarniacus…juxta fluvium Eptæ" which "Wido pater eorum" accepted from "uxore sua Berta, Johannis et Haimonis matre"[177]. Her connection with the Tosny family is confirmed by the charter dated 1063 which records the consent given by "Rotbertum de Toeniaco, avunculum domni Johanni monachi nostri, filii Widonis de Valle" to the donations by the latter to Marmoutier, authorised by "Berengerius filius eius"[178]. The remaining question is the identity of her father. The date of her marriage is estimated from the charter dated 11 Nov 1039 in which her two grandsons are named (see above)[179]. If this document is correctly dated (and this is open to doubt as discussed further above), Berthe could not have been the daughter of Roger [I] de Conches. There are two other possibilities. Either she was the daughter of Raoul [II] de Tosny or she was related to Robert de Tosny, who was Lord of Belvoir in 1086 and whose precise relationship with the main Tosny family has not been ascertained.
     "m secondly (before [1030]) as her second husband, ROTRUDE de Château-du-Loir, widow of ---, daughter of HAMON Seigneur d'Argentré & his wife Hildeburge de Bellême (-after [1050]). The monks of Marmoutier record a donation by "Guido, castri…Vallis…in pago Cenomannensi conditorem ac possessorem", with the consent of "suorumque filiorum…Haimonis…Gervasii atque Guidonis, simulque Agnetis", by charter dated to [1050], witnessed by "…Rotrudis uxor predicti Widonis, Gualterius filius eius…"[180]. Her parentage is confirmed by a charter dated to [1100] under which the monks of Angers Saint-Aubin recall the history of "ecclesiam de Comburniaco", seized by "Fulcho comes" [Foulques III "Nerra" Comte d’Anjou] and given to "Hamelino de Castro Ledi", who granted it to "Widdoni de Valle cum filia sua in maritagio"[181]. If this report is correct, Rotrude must have married before [1030], the estimated date of death of her father. The monks of Marmoutier record the division of Laval fair and market profits with "Guido de Valle", with the consent of "filii eius Hamon, Hildelinda, Agnes, Hildeburgis et Guido et Gervasius" by charter dated to [1050], witnessed by "…Rotrudis supradicti Guidonis uxor, Gualterius filius eius…"[182]. These charters confirm Rotrude’s first marriage, from which "Gualterius filius eius" was presumably born."
Med Lands cites:
[171] Broussillon (1895), Tome I, 8, p. 21.
[172] Broussillon (1895), Tome I, 9, p. 23.
[173] Broussillon (1895), Tome I, 16, p. 25.
[174] Broussillon (1895), Tome I, 17, p. 29, and Château-du-Loir 18, p. 7.
[175] Vendôme La Trinité, Tome I, CLIX, p. 276.
[176] Broussillon (1895), Tome I, 28, p. 39.
[177] Broussillon (1895), Tome I, 20, p. 35.
[178] Broussillon (1895), Tome I, 27, p. 38.
[179] Broussillon (1895), Tome I, 8, p. 21.
[180] Broussillon (1895), Tome I, 17, p. 29, and Château-du-Loir 18, p. 7.
[181] Angers Saint-Aubin, I, CCCXXVII, p. 372.
[182] Broussillon (1895), Tome I, 18, p. 31.8
Berthe de Tosny lived at an unknown place ; Per Stewart (see original for references):
1. RADULF II, b ca 955, seigneur of Tosny, d aft 10234 = N
2.1 ROGER I Hispanicus (the Spaniard), b ca 985/95, seigneur of Tosny, ducal standard bearer, k batt 31 May ca 1038/43, bur Saint-Pierre de Conches abbey (1) ? N
2.2. N, k batt ca 10232 ? N
[the placement of these three siblings is speculative]
3.1 BERTA, d bef ca 10402 = bef 1023 (1) GUIDO I, seigneur of Laval, d aft 22 Sep 1063/bef ca 1070
3.2 ROBERT, lord of Belvoir, d ca 1093, bur Belvoir priory = ADELAIS d bef ca 1093, bur Belvoir priory
3.3 Berenger Spina (Hespina), living 1063/662 ? N.4 GAV-25.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Origin and early generations of the Tosny family, July 2009, Stewart, Peter.1,10

Family

Guy I de Laval Sire de Laval b. c 990, d. 1067
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Berthe: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026357&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S4811] "Origin and early generations of the Tosny family (rev. March 2012)", July 2009, Peter Stewart (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gentxt/Origin_and_early_generations_of_the_Tosny_family.pdf), p. 2; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "Stewart (2009/12) - Tosny Family."
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Champagne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026358&tree=LEO
  4. [S4811] Peter Stewart, "Stewart (2009/12) - Tosny Family", pp. 1-2.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN de Tosny: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00553580&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Berthe de Champagne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026357&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026356&tree=LEO
  8. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/mainnob.htm#_Toc4742615. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  9. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Guy Ier de Laval: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Ier_de_Laval. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  10. [S4811] Peter Stewart, "Stewart (2009/12) - Tosny Family", https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gentxt/Origin_and_early_generations_of_the_Tosny_family.pdf (accessed 27 Sep 2020).
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hamon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026359&tree=LEO
  12. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/mainnob.htm#GuyILavaldied1040

Garsinde (?) Countess of Toulouse

F, #5113, b. circa 926, d. between 951 and 1017
FatherCharles Constantine (?) Comte de Vienne b. c 901, d. 28 Jun 963
MotherTeutberge (?) de Sens b. c 900, d. a 960
Last Edited27 Mar 2004
     Garsinde (?) Countess of Toulouse was born in 923.1 She was born circa 926 at France.2
Garsinde (?) Countess of Toulouse died between 951 and 1017; WFT Est.1
     Garsinde (?) Countess of Toulouse
(an unknown value.)3,2

Citations

  1. [S640] Inc. Brøderbund Software, World Family Tree Vol. L1, Ed. 1, Family #0021 (n.p.: Release date: October 30, 1998, unknown publish date).
  2. [S619] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 27 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 6, Ed. 1, Family #6-1556 (n.p.: Release date: August 22, 1996, unknown publish date).
  3. [S616] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 26 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 18, Ed. 1, Family #18-0770 (n.p.: Release date: March 27, 1998, unknown publish date).

NN de Tosny1,2

M, #5114, d. circa 1023
FatherRadulf II de Tosny Seigneur de Tosny1,2 b. c 955, d. a 1023
ReferenceGAV26
Last Edited27 Sep 2020
     NN de Tosny died circa 1023; Killed in battle.3
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Origin and early generations of the Tosny family, July 2009, Stewart, Peter.2 GAV-26.

Family

Children

Citations

  1. [S4811] "Origin and early generations of the Tosny family (rev. March 2012)", July 2009, Peter Stewart (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gentxt/Origin_and_early_generations_of_the_Tosny_family.pdf), pp. 1-2; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "Stewart (2009/12) - Tosny Family."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN de Tosny: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00553580&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S4811] Peter Stewart, "Stewart (2009/12) - Tosny Family", p. 2.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Champagne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026358&tree=LEO

Guy I de Thouars Seigneur de Tiffauges, Vicomte de Thouars1,2

M, #5115, d. before April 1242
FatherAimery VII de Thouars Vicomte de Thouars, seneschal of Poitou1,2 d. 1226
MotherSibylle/Cécile de Laval1,2
Last Edited21 Oct 2004
     Guy I de Thouars Seigneur de Tiffauges, Vicomte de Thouars married Alix de Mauleon Dame de Mauléon, de Talmont et de Benon, daughter of Savary de Mauleon and Amielle de Re, in August 1239.3,2
Guy I de Thouars Seigneur de Tiffauges, Vicomte de Thouars died before April 1242.1,2
     Guy I de Thouars Seigneur de Tiffauges, Vicomte de Thouars
Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 811.1

Guy I de Thouars Seigneur de Tiffauges, Vicomte de Thouars
Vcte Guy I de Thouars, +1242; m.before VIII.1239 Alix de Mauleon, Dame de Mauleon, etc.2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy I de Thouars: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00208546&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Thouars 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/thouars2.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alix de Mauléon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00208547&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Savary V de Thouars: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00300381&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aimery IX de Thouars: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00208548&tree=LEO

Richard d'Evreux 2nd Comte d'Evreux1

M, #5116, b. circa 986, d. 1067
FatherRobert d'Evreux Count d'Evreux, Archbishop of Rouen b. c 974, d. 1037
MotherHerleva (Havlive) (?) b. c 986, d. 1037
ReferenceGAV26 EDV26
Last Edited8 Sep 2020
     Richard d'Evreux 2nd Comte d'Evreux was born circa 986 at Rouen, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France.2 He married Godehilde (?) before 1030.2,3
Richard d'Evreux 2nd Comte d'Evreux died in 1067 at Normandy, France.2,3
     GAV-26 EDV-26 GKJ-27.

Richard d'Evreux 2nd Comte d'Evreux
(an unknown value.)2

Family

Godehilde (?) d. a 1055
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 68, DEVEREUX 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S618] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 27 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 6, Ed. 1, Family #6-3214 (n.p.: Release date: August 22, 1996, unknown publish date).
  3. [S619] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 27 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 6, Ed. 1, Family #6-1556 (n.p.: Release date: August 22, 1996, unknown publish date).
  4. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/godeh000.htm
    The Henry Project cites: GND (Orderic) vii, 2-4 (vol. 2, pp. 94-9); GND (Robert de Torigny) viii, 17 (vol. 2, pp. 232-3)
    GND = Guillaume de Jumièges, Gesta Normannorum Ducum, as edited in Elisabeth van Houts, ed. & trans., The Gesta Normannorum Ducum of William of Jumièges, Orderic Vitalis and Robert of Torigni, 2 vols., (Oxford, 1992). Citation is by book and chapter of Guillaume's work, with the volume and page number of the edition by van Houts in parentheses. Unless otherwise stated, references are to Guillaume's work, and not to later additions by such authors as Orderic Vitalis and Robert de Torigny.
    GND (Robert de Torigny) = Additiona to GND by Robert de Torigny.. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm#GuillaumeEvreuxdied1118. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/godeh000.htm
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes d'Evreux: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079536&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  8. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Beynes, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beynes.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  9. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm#AgnesEvreuxMSimonMontfortAmaurydied1087
  10. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Montfort (act. -L’Amaury, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Montfort.pdf
  11. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’ Evreux, & Famille Devereux, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Evreux.pdf
  12. [S2164] Roglo Genealogical database, online http://roglo.eu/roglo, Agnès d'Évreux: http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en;i=1386771. Hereinafter cited as Roglo Database.
  13. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Agnes d'Évreux: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/agnes000.htm

Godehilde (?)1

F, #5117, d. after 1055
ReferenceGAV26 EDV26
Last Edited8 Sep 2020
     Godehilde (?) married Roger I de Toeni Lord of Guerny, son of Radulf II de Tosny Seigneur de Tosny.2,3,4 Godehilde (?) married Richard d'Evreux 2nd Comte d'Evreux, son of Robert d'Evreux Count d'Evreux, Archbishop of Rouen and Herleva (Havlive) (?), before 1030.5,6
Godehilde (?) died after 1055.7
     Godehilde (?) was also known as Godchilda (?)8 Godehilde (?) was also known as Godehaut (?)2

Family 1

Roger I de Toeni Lord of Guerny b. c 990, d. bt 1038 - 1039
Children

Family 2

Richard d'Evreux 2nd Comte d'Evreux b. c 986, d. 1067
Children

Citations

  1. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 68, DEVEREUX 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stafford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  4. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, "Godehilde's first husband, Roger de Tosny, was married twice, and this presents some problems. One is the obvious one of deciding which of Roger's children were by Godehilde. Another problem has been caused by the careless identification by some of Roger's two wives, with the result that Godehilde has been assigned the parentage of Roger's first wife."
  5. [S618] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 27 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 6, Ed. 1, Family #6-3214 (n.p.: Release date: August 22, 1996, unknown publish date).
  6. [S619] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 27 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 6, Ed. 1, Family #6-1556 (n.p.: Release date: August 22, 1996, unknown publish date).
  7. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, cites: Fauroux (1961), no. 208 (pp. 396-8), where Godehilde signs a charter of her second husband Richard, 1055×1066
    Fauroux (1961) = Marie Fauroux, Recueil des actes des ducs de Normandie de 911 à 1066 (Mémoires de la Société des Antiquaires de Normandie 36, Caen, 1961).
  8. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I1188
  9. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, "[OV v, 13 (vol. 3, pp. 128-9), which gives only the date, and says that Agnes was uterine sister of Ralph, verifying that Ralph was a son of Godehilde. See also CP 12:757 (sub Tony), and Musset (1978):56, n. 53, where charters are cited in which Ralph refers to Godehilde as his mother]
    While Roger de Tosny had a number of other children, he had a previous wife, and Ralph is the only one who clan clearly be placed as a son of Godehilde by evidence of which I an aware. The other children of Roger de Tosny are discussed in the Commentary section."
    OV = Marjorie Chibnall, ed. & trans., The Ecclesiastical History of Orderic Vitalis, 6 vols. (Oxford, 1969-80).
    Musset (1977) = "Aux origines d'une classe dirigeante: les Tosny, grands barons normands du Xe au XIIIe siècle", Francia 5 (1977): 45-80.
  10. [S2164] Roglo Genealogical database, online http://roglo.eu/roglo, Raoul de Toëny: http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=en;i=102183. Hereinafter cited as Roglo Database.
  11. [S2164] Roglo Database, online http://roglo.eu/roglo, Raoul de Toëny: http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=en;i=102180.
  12. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/godeh000.htm
    The Henry Project cites: GND (Orderic) vii, 2-4 (vol. 2, pp. 94-9); GND (Robert de Torigny) viii, 17 (vol. 2, pp. 232-3)
    GND = Guillaume de Jumièges, Gesta Normannorum Ducum, as edited in Elisabeth van Houts, ed. & trans., The Gesta Normannorum Ducum of William of Jumièges, Orderic Vitalis and Robert of Torigni, 2 vols., (Oxford, 1992). Citation is by book and chapter of Guillaume's work, with the volume and page number of the edition by van Houts in parentheses. Unless otherwise stated, references are to Guillaume's work, and not to later additions by such authors as Orderic Vitalis and Robert de Torigny.
    GND (Robert de Torigny) = Additiona to GND by Robert de Torigny.
  13. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm#GuillaumeEvreuxdied1118. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  14. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/godeh000.htm
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes d'Evreux: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079536&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  16. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm#AgnesEvreuxMSimonMontfortAmaurydied1087
  17. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Agnes d'Évreux: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/agnes000.htm
  18. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Montfort (act. -L’Amaury, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Montfort.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  19. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’ Evreux, & Famille Devereux, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Evreux.pdf
  20. [S2164] Roglo Database, online http://roglo.eu/roglo, Agnès d'Évreux: http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en;i=1386771.

Amaury II de Montfort Comte d'Evreux, Comte de Montfort1,2,3,4,5,6

M, #5118, b. circa 1000, d. 1053
FatherGuillaume I "de Hainaut" (?) Comte de Montfort b. c 960; per the Henry Project: "Possible father: Guillaume (William) "of Hainaut" Stated by Oderic Vitalis to have been the father of Amauri I de Montfort [OVvii (vol. 4)], he is otherwise unknown. It is not certain whether or not his name indicates any connection to the counts of Hainaut [but see CP 7, 708, note (f), where it is suggested that Amauri's grandson may have repudiated his wife, a daughter of the count of Hainaut, because of consanguinity]."
OV = Marjorie Chibnall, ed. & trans., The Ecclesiastical History of Orderic Vitalis, 6 vols. (Oxford, 1969-80).4,5,6,7,8,9
Mother(?) de Nogent dame d'Epernon et de Montfort; per the Henry Project: "Possible mother: NN de Nogent.
The Chronicle of Saint-Denis has a confused note which would appear to state that king Robert [II] of France fortified Montfort and Êpernon, married a lady of Nogent, and had son Amaury, who had two sons Simon and Amaury [RHF 10: 311, which only quotes the French version of the text: "Au tens de ce Roi fu faite banie de la segnurie de l'Abeie de S. Denise. Cit Rois Robert ferma le chastel de Montfort et d'Espernon; une Dame de Noject ot epousée; de cele ot un fil qui ot non Amauris. Cil Amauris ot deulx fuix, Symon et Amauri, etc."]. Essentially the same statement was also interpolated into a history of the abbots of Saint-Germain (with Saint-Germain replacing Saint-Denis in the first sentence), which makes it clearer that the reference is to the present Amaury [Ex Continuatione Historiæ Aimoini Monachi Floriac., RHF 11: 275, where the interpolated passage begins: "... in tempore Regis Roberti benia fuit de domino San Germani. Ipse firmavit Montifortem et Sparnomum: quandam quoque dominam de Novigento habuit uxorem; de qua unum filium habuit, nuncupatum Almaricum. Idem Almaricus duos filios habuit, scilicet Simonem et Almaricum. Symon procreavit Almaricum de Monteforti et Bertrandam Comitissam Andegavensam. ..."; cf. also RHF 10: 221, which does not have this interpolation] As pointed out by the editors of RHF, there is an error here which is most likely to be explained by an omitted name which would explain to whom the "ipse" referred, but it is not clear why the editors of RHF have suggested Almalricus as the omitted name. Anselme makes a "dame de Montfort & d'Espernon" the wife of Guillaume de Hainaut and mother of Amaury [Anselme 6: 71], possibly the result of combining the above account with Orderic....While the account of Orderic Vitalis about Amaury's father and the account of the Chronicle of Saint-Denis about his mother have no obvious contradictions with each other, neither source has information which would confirm the other. While both accounts are possible, the documentation in both cases is less than ideal."
RHF = Recueil des historiens des Gaules et de la France.4,6,10,9
ReferenceGAV26 EDV26
Last Edited8 Sep 2020
     Amaury II de Montfort Comte d'Evreux, Comte de Montfort was born circa 1000; Racines et Histoire (Epernon) says b. 1022/1028.9,11 He married Bertrade/Berteis de GomezGometz(?) in 1028 at Île-de-France, France.5,6,9,8,12
Amaury II de Montfort Comte d'Evreux, Comte de Montfort died in 1053.9
     Amaury II de Montfort Comte d'Evreux, Comte de Montfort
Per Med Lands:
     "AMAURY [I] de Montfort (-after Apr 1052). An apparently incomplete fragmentary passage of the mid-12th century continuation of the Historia of Monk Aimon records that, during the reign of Robert II King of France, [name omitted] was granted “Benia” taken from “dominio Sancti Germani”, fortified "Sparnonem et Montifortem", married "de Novigento dominam" by whom he fathered "unum filium...Almaricum", who in turn was father of "duos filios...Simonem et Almaricum", Simon being the father of “Almaricum de Monteforti et Bertrandam comitissam Andegavensem”[474]. “Comes Ivo de Bello monte, Ebo miles, Guarinus miles Parisius, Almaricus miles de Monteforte” witnessed the charter dated 1022 under which Robert II King of France confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Saint-Mesmin de Micy[475]. “…Almarici de Monteforti…” witnessed the charter dated 1028 under which Robert II King of France confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Saint-Mesmin de Micy[476]. Robert II King of France confirmed the donation of "Manasses comes" to Chartres Notre-Dame by charter dated 4 Feb 1031, signed by "…Manasses comitis, Hilduini comitis fratris eius, filorum eius Manassis et Hilduini, Burcardo de Montemorenciaco, Evrardi filii Hilduini de Britoglio, Amalrici de Monteforti, Milonis de Caprosa…"[477]. He began the building of the castle of Montfort l'Amaury, which was finished by his son[478]. Orderic Vitalis records that Henri I King of France visited Fécamp, dated to [1032], on the advice of "Amalrici senioris de Monte-Forti, filii Guillelmi Hanoensis"[479]. "Ivo de Curba villa" dedicated "ecclesiæ Sanctorum Martyrum Gervasii et Protasii Cheonis" by charter dated to [1048/61], witnessed by “...Amalricus de Sparnoto, Simon et Mainerius filii eius...”[480]. "Amalricus miles" founded the priory of Saint-Thomas d’Epernon, with the consent of "conjugis mee…Bertredis…et filiorum meorum…Simonis…atque Mainerii", by charter dated [11 Apr 1052/Jul 1053][481].
     "m BERTRADE, daughter of --- (-after Apr 1052). "Amalricus miles" founded the priory of Saint-Thomas d’Epernon, with the consent of "conjugis mee…Bertredis…et filiorum meorum…Simonis…atque Mainerii", by charter dated [11 Apr 1052/Jul 1053][482]."
Med Lands cites:
[474] Ex continuatione Historiæ Aimoni Monachi Floriacensis, RHGF, Tome XI, p. 275.
[475] RHGF, Tome X, p. 605.
[476] RHGF, Tome X, p. 617.
[477] Chartres Notre-Dame, Tome I, XIII, p. 87.
[478] CP VII Appendix D, p. 708.
[479] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VII, XIV, p. 223.
[480] Marmoutier-Dunois, CIX, p. 100.
[481] Epernon Saint-Thomas, I, p. 1.
[482] Epernon Saint-Thomas I, p. 1.8


Amaury II de Montfort Comte d'Evreux, Comte de Montfort
Per Genealogics: "Amaury was born about the year 1000, the son of Guillaume I, comte de Montfort, and a lady de Nogent, dame de Montfort et d'Epernon. His father was said to have built a wooden castle on a mound that was given the name of Montfort l'Amauri. Amaury rebuilt the castle in stone to protect the village that grew around the castle, surrounded by fortifications. He also built a chapel. In 1028 he married Bertrade/Berteis, possibly a daughter of Guillaume de Gommetz. They had a son Simon I and daughter Eva, both of whom would have progeny. Amaury died in 1053, and was succeeded by Simon I."9

Amaury II de Montfort Comte d'Evreux, Comte de Montfort
This is the same person as Amaury I de Montfort l'Amaury, Lord of Montfort l'Amaury, fl. 1022-1060 at The Henry Project.4

Amaury II de Montfort Comte d'Evreux, Comte de Montfort
This is the same person as Amaury I de Montfort at Wikipedia and as Amaury Ier de Montfort at Wikipédia (Fr.)13,14

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Les seize quartiers des Reines et Imperatrices Francaises. 1977., Jacques Saillot, Reference: 183.
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 230.
3. The Complete Peerage 1936 , H.A.Doubleday & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VII 709.9
GAV-26 EDV-26 GKJ-27.

Amaury II de Montfort Comte d'Evreux, Comte de Montfort and Bertrade/Berteis de GomezGometz(?)
Per Genealogy.EU: "Amaury II, Cte de Montfort, +1053; m.1028 Bertrade de Gommetz."15

Amaury II de Montfort Comte d'Evreux, Comte de Montfort and Bertrade/Berteis de GomezGometz(?)
Per Racines et Histoire (Montfort): "Amauri 1er de Montfort + après 04/1052 (1053 ou 1063 ?) seigneur de Montfort et d’Epernon (chartes de Robert II en 1022 & 1028 à SaintMesmin de Micy ; en 1031 à Notre-Dame de Chartres ; charte à Marmoutier 1052)
     ép. ~1020/28 Bertrade de Gometz + après 04/1052 (soeur de Geoffroi, seigneur de Gometz-le-Châtel, près Limours)"


Per Racines et Histoire (Gometz): "1) Bertrade de Gometz ° ~ 1001 ?
     ép. Amauri 1er de Montfort + 1053."16,17

Family

Bertrade/Berteis de GomezGometz(?) b. c 1001, d. bt 1029 - 1095
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 18, de BEAUMONT-6:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 158, de MONTFORT of Leicester 2.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Amaury II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079545&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/amaur000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beynes.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Epernon.pdf, p. 2.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079543&tree=LEO
  8. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc40424601. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Amaury II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079545&tree=LEO
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN de Nogent: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079544&tree=LEO
  11. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs d’ Epernon, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Epernon.pdf
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertrade/Berteis: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079546&tree=LEO
  13. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaury_I_de_Montfort. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  14. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Amaury Ier de Montfort: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaury_Ier_de_Montfort. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  15. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Montfort Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/montfort.html
  16. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Premiers seigneurs de Gometz, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Gometz.pdf
  17. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Montfort (act. -L’Amaury), p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Montfort.pdf
  18. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 158, de MONTFORT of Leicester 2:iii.
  19. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eva de Montfort-l'Amaury: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079549&tree=LEO
  20. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 158, de MONTFORT of Leicester 2:ii.
  21. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Simon I de Montfort l'Amaury: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/simon000.htm
  22. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Simon I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079533&tree=LEO
  23. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Beynes, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beynes.pdf
  24. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#SimonIIMontfortAmaurydied1087B
  25. [S2164] Roglo Genealogical database, online http://roglo.eu/roglo, Simon l'Aîné: http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en&m=NG&n=Simon+l%27A%C3%AEn%C3%A9&fn=&sn=. Hereinafter cited as Roglo Database.

Bertrade/Berteis de GomezGometz(?)1

F, #5119, b. circa 1001, d. between 1029 and 1095
ReferenceGAV26 EDV26
Last Edited8 Sep 2020
     Bertrade/Berteis de GomezGometz(?) was born circa 1001 at France.2 She married Amaury II de Montfort Comte d'Evreux, Comte de Montfort, son of Guillaume I "de Hainaut" (?) Comte de Montfort and (?) de Nogent dame d'Epernon et de Montfort, in 1028 at Île-de-France, France.3,4,5,6,7
Bertrade/Berteis de GomezGometz(?) died between 1029 and 1095.2
     Bertrade/Berteis de GomezGometz(?) and Amaury II de Montfort Comte d'Evreux, Comte de Montfort
Per Genealogy.EU: "Amaury II, Cte de Montfort, +1053; m.1028 Bertrade de Gommetz."8

Bertrade/Berteis de GomezGometz(?)
Per Genealogics: "maybe daughter of Guillaume de Gommetz."7

Bertrade/Berteis de GomezGometz(?)
Per Med Lands: "m BERTRADE, daughter of --- (-after Apr 1052). "Amalricus miles" founded the priory of Saint-Thomas d’Epernon, with the consent of "conjugis mee…Bertredis…et filiorum meorum…Simonis…atque Mainerii", by charter dated [11 Apr 1052/Jul 1053][482]."
Med Lands cites: [482] Epernon Saint-Thomas I, p. 1.6

Bertrade/Berteis de GomezGometz(?)
This is the same person as Bertrade (de Gometz?) at The Henry Project.

NB: Some sources show Bertrade to be the dau. of Guillaume to Gometz (as I once did).
     One example of this is Racines et Histoire (Premiers seigneurs de Gometz). An image of the chart from Racines et Histoires is attached.
     However, The Henry Project says that this is "improbably":
     "[RFC2, 68 (line 90)] An otherwise unidentified Guillaume de Gometz appears frequently on websites as the supposed father of Bertrade, but without any clear documentation in primary sources. The earliest known Guillaume de Gometz would appear to be the Guillaume de Gometz who appears for the first time on 20 May 1043 witnessing a charter of king Henri I of France ["Signum Guilelmi Comitis de Goms" RHF 11: 578 (#12)]. He also appears as a witness for Philippe I on 29 May 1067 ["Willelmus de Gomethiaco" Rec. actes Philippe I, 94 (#30)], again in 1067 ["Guillelmus Giometensis castri" Rec. actes Philippe I, 98 (#32)], and on 2 November 1071 ["Willelmi de Gumetho" Rec. actes Philippe I, 160 (#60)]. He had a son of the same name, who had only recently attained majority on 16 May 1081 ["... quoniam junior Willelmus, predecessoris sui, eodem vocabulo nuncupati, heres legitime ut filius, eo anno quo de potestate et custodia Hervei de Montemorentiaco, sub cujus bajulatione parvulus fuerat, exiit... ipse supramemoratus Willelmus pro patris ac matris suique anima libentissime concessit, suasque culturas dominicas, sicut mater sua, nomine Albereda, pro anima patris sui Willelmi ... MLXXXI, xvij kal. junii ..." Charte Gometz, 356-7]. Thus, it seems clear that the elder Guillaume de Gometz was not in a generation early enough to be the father of Geoffroy and Bertrade. Nor does Geoffroy de Gometz appear to have been the father of Guillaume de Gometz, who does not appear among Geoffroy's sons in the above charter. Most likely they were collateral relatives, as suggested by Moutie [Moutie (1876), 2: 25-6]. While it is impossible to rule out the possibility that Geoffroy and Bertrade were indeed children of some different Guillaume de Gometz, the name does not appear to have any good basis, and cannot be accepted in the absence of evidence. The elder Guillaume de Gometz has also often been stated to have been the father of Hodierne, wife of Guy de Montlhéry, but Moutie has argued that she was more likely to be a sister [Moutie (1876), 2: 12 n. 2, 25]."
The Henry Project cites:
** Moutie (1876) = Auguste Moutie, Chevreuse - Recherches historiques, archéologiques et généalogiques, 2 vols. (Rambouillet, 1876).
** Rec. actes Philippe I = Maurice Prou, ed., Recueil des Actes de Philippe Ier roi de France (Chartes et diplômes relatifs à l'histoire de France, Paris, 1908).
** RFC2 = Roderick Stuart, Royalty for Commoners (2nd ed., Baltimore, 1992).RFC2 = Roderick Stuart, Royalty for Commoners (2nd ed., Baltimore, 1992).
** RHF = Recueil des historiens des Gaules et de la France.
Conclulsion: I have deleted Guillaume as the father of Bertrade. GA Vaut.9,10,11

Reference: Genealogics cites: Les seize quartiers des Reines et Imperatrices Francaises. 1977., Jacques Saillot, Reference: 183.7 GAV-26 EDV-26 GKJ-27.

Bertrade/Berteis de GomezGometz(?) and Amaury II de Montfort Comte d'Evreux, Comte de Montfort
Per Racines et Histoire (Montfort): "Amauri 1er de Montfort + après 04/1052 (1053 ou 1063 ?) seigneur de Montfort et d’Epernon (chartes de Robert II en 1022 & 1028 à SaintMesmin de Micy ; en 1031 à Notre-Dame de Chartres ; charte à Marmoutier 1052)
     ép. ~1020/28 Bertrade de Gometz + après 04/1052 (soeur de Geoffroi, seigneur de Gometz-le-Châtel, près Limours)"


Per Racines et Histoire (Gometz): "1) Bertrade de Gometz ° ~ 1001 ?
     ép. Amauri 1er de Montfort + 1053."10,12

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertrade/Berteis de Gommetz: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079546&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S618] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 27 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 6, Ed. 1, Family #6-3214 (n.p.: Release date: August 22, 1996, unknown publish date).
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beynes.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Epernon.pdf, p. 2.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Amaury II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079545&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc40424601. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertrade/Berteis: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079546&tree=LEO
  8. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Montfort Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/montfort.html
  9. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/bertr003.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  10. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Premiers seigneurs de Gometz, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Gometz.pdf
  11. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 28 May 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  12. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Montfort (act. -L’Amaury), p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Montfort.pdf
  13. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 158, de MONTFORT of Leicester 2:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eva de Montfort-l'Amaury: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079549&tree=LEO
  15. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 158, de MONTFORT of Leicester 2:ii.
  16. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Simon I de Montfort l'Amaury: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/simon000.htm
  17. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Simon I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079533&tree=LEO
  18. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Beynes, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beynes.pdf
  19. [S2164] Roglo Genealogical database, online http://roglo.eu/roglo, Simon l'Aîné: http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en&m=NG&n=Simon+l%27A%C3%AEn%C3%A9&fn=&sn=. Hereinafter cited as Roglo Database.
  20. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#SimonIIMontfortAmaurydied1087B

Guillaume de GomezGometz

M, #5120, b. between 950 and 979, d. between 1004 and 1064
Last Edited28 May 2020
     Guillaume de GomezGometz was born between 950 and 979.1
Guillaume de GomezGometz died between 1004 and 1064.1
     Guillaume de GomezGometz was a witness to the This is the same person as Bertrade (de Gometz?) at The Henry Project.

NB: Some sources show Bertrade to be the dau. of Guillaume to Gometz (as I once did).
     One example of this is Racines et Histoire (Premiers seigneurs de Gometz). An image of the chart from Racines et Histoires is attached.
     However, The Henry Project says that this is "improbably":
     "[RFC2, 68 (line 90)] An otherwise unidentified Guillaume de Gometz appears frequently on websites as the supposed father of Bertrade, but without any clear documentation in primary sources. The earliest known Guillaume de Gometz would appear to be the Guillaume de Gometz who appears for the first time on 20 May 1043 witnessing a charter of king Henri I of France ["Signum Guilelmi Comitis de Goms" RHF 11: 578 (#12)]. He also appears as a witness for Philippe I on 29 May 1067 ["Willelmus de Gomethiaco" Rec. actes Philippe I, 94 (#30)], again in 1067 ["Guillelmus Giometensis castri" Rec. actes Philippe I, 98 (#32)], and on 2 November 1071 ["Willelmi de Gumetho" Rec. actes Philippe I, 160 (#60)]. He had a son of the same name, who had only recently attained majority on 16 May 1081 ["... quoniam junior Willelmus, predecessoris sui, eodem vocabulo nuncupati, heres legitime ut filius, eo anno quo de potestate et custodia Hervei de Montemorentiaco, sub cujus bajulatione parvulus fuerat, exiit... ipse supramemoratus Willelmus pro patris ac matris suique anima libentissime concessit, suasque culturas dominicas, sicut mater sua, nomine Albereda, pro anima patris sui Willelmi ... MLXXXI, xvij kal. junii ..." Charte Gometz, 356-7]. Thus, it seems clear that the elder Guillaume de Gometz was not in a generation early enough to be the father of Geoffroy and Bertrade. Nor does Geoffroy de Gometz appear to have been the father of Guillaume de Gometz, who does not appear among Geoffroy's sons in the above charter. Most likely they were collateral relatives, as suggested by Moutie [Moutie (1876), 2: 25-6]. While it is impossible to rule out the possibility that Geoffroy and Bertrade were indeed children of some different Guillaume de Gometz, the name does not appear to have any good basis, and cannot be accepted in the absence of evidence. The elder Guillaume de Gometz has also often been stated to have been the father of Hodierne, wife of Guy de Montlhéry, but Moutie has argued that she was more likely to be a sister [Moutie (1876), 2: 12 n. 2, 25]."
The Henry Project cites:
** Moutie (1876) = Auguste Moutie, Chevreuse - Recherches historiques, archéologiques et généalogiques, 2 vols. (Rambouillet, 1876).
** Rec. actes Philippe I = Maurice Prou, ed., Recueil des Actes de Philippe Ier roi de France (Chartes et diplômes relatifs à l'histoire de France, Paris, 1908).
** RFC2 = Roderick Stuart, Royalty for Commoners (2nd ed., Baltimore, 1992).RFC2 = Roderick Stuart, Royalty for Commoners (2nd ed., Baltimore, 1992).
** RHF = Recueil des historiens des Gaules et de la France.
Conclulsion: I have deleted Guillaume as the father of Bertrade. GA Vaut with Bertrade/Berteis de GomezGometz(?)2,3,4

Guillaume de GomezGometz
Per Racines et Histoire (Gometz): "Guillaume de Gometz ° ~ 993 (Corbeil) + après 1060 (~1070) seigneur de La Ferté-Baudouin (act. Ferté-Alais), Bures, Gometz, Sénéchal de France
     ép. ? (Alberède ?) (probable parente d’Hervé de Montmorency, celle-ci a du ép. aussi 2) Simon 1er seigneur de Neauphle (fils de Richard de Meulan et neveu d’Hugues 1er, comte de Meulan)des deux mariages de l’épouse on aurait ainsi ."3

Citations

  1. [S618] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 27 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 6, Ed. 1, Family #6-3214 (n.p.: Release date: August 22, 1996, unknown publish date).
  2. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/bertr003.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Premiers seigneurs de Gometz, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Gometz.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 28 May 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Epernon.pdf, p. 2.

Guillaume I "de Hainaut" (?) Comte de Montfort1,2

M, #5121, b. circa 960
FatherAmaury I de Montfort Comte de Hainaut, Comte de la marche de Valenciennes5,4 b. c 920, d. 983
MotherJudith de Cambrai3,4 b. 920, d. 985
ReferenceGAV27 EDV27
Last Edited28 May 2020
     Guillaume I "de Hainaut" (?) Comte de Montfort was born circa 960 at Hainaut, France.4 He married (?) de Nogent dame d'Epernon et de Montfort, daughter of Hugues de Beauvais comte de Dreux, seigneur de Nogent.4,6
Guillaume I "de Hainaut" (?) Comte de Montfort died in 1018; Racines et Histoire (Epernon and Montfort pages) say "d. bef 1022?"7,4,8
     GAV-27 EDV-27 GKJ-28.

Guillaume I "de Hainaut" (?) Comte de Montfort
This is the same person as Guillaume de Montfort of Hainaut at Wikipedia and as Guillaume de Montfort at Wikipédia (Fr.)9,10

Guillaume I "de Hainaut" (?) Comte de Montfort
Per Med Lands:
     "[GUILLAUME [de Hainaut], son of --- . Orderic Vitalis names "Guillelmi Hanoensis" as father of "Amalrici senioris de Monte-Forti", when recording a visit by Henri I King of France to Fécamp on the advice of Amaury, dated to [1032][471]. The accuracy of the information is uncertain, although presumably it cannot be dismissed entirely. Dion suggests that he was a cousin of Reginar [IV] Comte de Hainaut[472]. No other trace of such a person has yet been found.]
     "m --- dame de Nogent, daughter of ---. Her marriage is confirmed by an apparently incomplete fragmentary passage of the mid-12th century continuation of the Historia of Monk Aimon which records that, during the reign of Robert II King of France, [name omitted] fortified "Sparnonem et Montifortem" and married "de Novigento dominam"[473]."
Med Lands cites:
[471] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VII, XIV, p. 223.
[472] Dion ‘Le Château de Montfort’, Tome I (1873), p. 122.
[473] Ex continuatione Historiæ Aimoni Monachi Floriacensis, RHGF, Tome XI, p. 275.11
Guillaume I "de Hainaut" (?) Comte de Montfort was also known as Guillaume (?) de Hainaut.2 Guillaume I "de Hainaut" (?) Comte de Montfort was also known as William (?) de Hainault.12

Reference: Genealogics cites: Les seize quartiers des Reines et Imperatrices Francaises. 1977., Jacques Saillot, Reference: 183.4

Guillaume I "de Hainaut" (?) Comte de Montfort and (?) de Nogent dame d'Epernon et de Montfort
Per Racines et Histoire (Montfort): "Guillaume de Hainaut ° ~960 + ~avant 1022/après 1003 Grand Officier royal (~ 990), Avoué défenseur à titre héréditaire, Gouverneur & Gruyer de l’Yveline, Châtelain d’Epernon, Montfort & Beynes, investi par le Roi Robert le Pieux
     ép. ?, dame de Nogent (-Le-Roi ?)"


Per Racines et Histoire (Epernon): "? de Nogent et d’Epernon dame d’Epernon
     ép. Guillaume de Hainaut + ~ avant 1022 ? Grand officier royal (~ 990), Avoué défenseur à titre héréditaire, Gouverneur & Gruyer de l’Yveline, Châtelain d’Epernon, Montfort et de Beynes investi par le Roi Robert «Le Pieux»."13

Guillaume I "de Hainaut" (?) Comte de Montfort and (?) de Nogent dame d'Epernon et de Montfort
Per Genealogy.EU: "Guillaume I, Cte de Montfort, +1018; m.N de Nogent, Dame d'Espernon."14

Family

(?) de Nogent dame d'Epernon et de Montfort
Child
  • Amaury II de Montfort Comte d'Evreux, Comte de Montfort+ b. c 1000, d. 1053; per the Henry Project: "Possible father: Guillaume (William) "of Hainaut" Stated by Oderic Vitalis to have been the father of Amauri I de Montfort [OVvii (vol. 4)], he is otherwise unknown. It is not certain whether or not his name indicates any connection to the counts of Hainaut [but see CP 7, 708, note (f), where it is suggested that Amauri's grandson may have repudiated his wife, a daughter of the count of Hainaut, because of consanguinity]."
    OV = Marjorie Chibnall, ed. & trans., The Ecclesiastical History of Orderic Vitalis, 6 vols. (Oxford, 1969-80).15,2,13,4,11,16

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079543&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beynes.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN de Cambrai: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079542&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079543&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Amaury I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079541&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN de Nogent: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079544&tree=LEO
  7. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs d’ Epernon, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Epernon.pdf
  8. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Montfort (act. -L’Amaury), p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Montfort.pdf
  9. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillaume_de_Montfort_of_Hainaut. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  10. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Guillaume de Montfort: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillaume_de_Montfort. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  11. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc40424601. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  12. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 158, de MONTFORT of Leicester 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  13. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Epernon.pdf, p. 2.
  14. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Montfort Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/montfort.html
  15. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/amaur000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  16. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Amaury II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079545&tree=LEO

Robert d'Evreux Count d'Evreux, Archbishop of Rouen1,2

M, #5122, b. circa 974, d. 1037
FatherRichard I "The Fearless" (?) 3rd Duke of Normandy3 b. 28 Aug 933, d. 20 Nov 996
MotherGunnora (Gunnor, Gonnor) de Crepon Duchess of Normandy3 b. c 936, d. bt 1027 - 1031
ReferenceGAV27 EDV27
Last Edited8 Mar 2020
     Robert d'Evreux Count d'Evreux, Archbishop of Rouen was born at Evreux, Normandy, France.4 He married Herleva (Havlive) (?)1,3 Robert d'Evreux Count d'Evreux, Archbishop of Rouen was born circa 974 at Evreux, Normandy, France.1
Robert d'Evreux Count d'Evreux, Archbishop of Rouen died in 1037.3
     GAV-27 EDV-27 GKJ-28.

Robert d'Evreux Count d'Evreux, Archbishop of Rouen
[1m.] Robert d'Evreux, +1037; m.Harleve N.3

Family 1

Herleva (Havlive) (?) b. c 986, d. 1037
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 68, DEVEREUX 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 181-182, NORMANDY 3:v.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  4. [S619] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 27 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 6, Ed. 1, Family #6-1556 (n.p.: Release date: August 22, 1996, unknown publish date).
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm#RobertEvreuxdied1037B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 68, DEVEREUX 1:iii.
  7. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 68, DEVEREUX 1:ii.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume d'Evreux: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165073&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  9. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bertran.pdf, p. 8. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  10. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 68, DEVEREUX 1:.

Herleva (Havlive) (?)1

F, #5123, b. circa 986, d. 1037
ReferenceGAV27 EDV27
Last Edited8 Mar 2020
     Herleva (Havlive) (?) married Robert d'Evreux Count d'Evreux, Archbishop of Rouen, son of Richard I "The Fearless" (?) 3rd Duke of Normandy and Gunnora (Gunnor, Gonnor) de Crepon Duchess of Normandy.1,2 Herleva (Havlive) (?) was born circa 986 at Normandy, France.3
Herleva (Havlive) (?) died in 1037.3
     GAV-27 EDV-27 GKJ-28.

Herleva (Havlive) (?)
(an unknown value.)3

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 68, DEVEREUX 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  3. [S618] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 27 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 6, Ed. 1, Family #6-3214 (n.p.: Release date: August 22, 1996, unknown publish date).
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm#RobertEvreuxdied1037B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 68, DEVEREUX 1:iii.
  6. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 68, DEVEREUX 1:ii.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume d'Evreux: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165073&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  8. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bertran.pdf, p. 8. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Tommaso I (?) Count of Savoy, Aosta and Moriana1,2,3

M, #5124, b. between 1177 and 1178, d. 1 March 1233
Thomas I of Savoy
FatherUmberto III (?) Comte de Savoie, Aosta and Moriana1,2,3,4,5 b. bt 1 Aug 1136 - 4 Aug 1136, d. 4 Mar 1189
MotherBeatrix (?) de Mâcon2,3,6,5 b. 1160, d. b 8 Apr 1230
ReferenceGAV21 EDV22
Last Edited18 Apr 2020
     Tommaso I (?) Count of Savoy, Aosta and Moriana was born between 1177 and 1178 at chateau de Carbonara, Carbonierres, Departement de la Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France; Genealogics says b. ca Aug 1177; Savoy 1 page says b. 20.5.1178; Med Lands says b. 1178.2,7,3,5,8 He married Béatrice (?) de Genève, daughter of Guillaume I (?) Count of Geneva, Lord of Faucigny and Beatrix/Beatrice de Faucigny, in 1196.2,7,3,5,9
Tommaso I (?) Count of Savoy, Aosta and Moriana died on 1 March 1233 at Moncalieri, Città Metropolitana di Torino, Piemonte, Italy (now).7,1,2,3,8
Tommaso I (?) Count of Savoy, Aosta and Moriana was buried after 1 March 1233 at Sacra di San Michele, Chiusa di San Michele, Città Metropolitana di Torino, Piemonte, Italy,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     20 May 1180, Aiguebelle, Departement de la Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France
     DEATH     1 Mar 1233 (aged 52), Moncalieri, Città Metropolitana di Torino, Piemonte, Italy
     Count of Savoy and Maurienne and Marquis of Italy. Married to Béatrice Marguerite de Genève, father of 18 children.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Humbert III de Savoie 1136–1189
          Béatrice de Vienne of Savoy 1160–1230
     Spouse
          Beatrice Marguerite of Geneva 1179–1257
     Children
          Alix of Savoy unknown–1277
          Amadeus IV of Savoy 1197–1253
          Beatrice of Savoy 1198–1266
          Thomas II of Savoy 1199–1259
          Guillaume of Savoy 1201–1239
          Pierre II of Savoy 1203–1268
          Boniface of Savoy 1207–1270
          Philippe I of Savoy 1207–1285
     BURIAL     Sacra di San Michele, Chiusa di San Michele, Città Metropolitana di Torino, Piemonte, Italy
     Created by: Lutetia
     Added: 11 Oct 2009
     Find A Grave Memorial 42986886.8
     Tommaso I (?) Count of Savoy, Aosta and Moriana
Per Genealogy.EU: "[4m.] Ct Tommaso I of Savoy, Aosta and Moriana (1189-1233), *chateau de Carbonara 20.5.1178, +Moncalieri 1.3.1233; he supported the Hohenstaufens and was appointed Imperial Vicar, a position he used to extend his lands both sides of the Alps. Towards France he gained Vaud and Bugey, and to the east Carignano and other lands; m.V.1195/1196 Beatrix/Margareta (+8.4.1257), dau.of Ct Guillaume I of Geneva."3

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald. 67.
2. The Lost Kingdom of Burgundy , Cope, Christopher. biographical details.
3. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:190.
4. Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. Page 110.10


Tommaso I (?) Count of Savoy, Aosta and Moriana
Per Genealogics:
     "Tommaso was born about August 1177, the son of Umberto III, comte de Savoie, and his last wife Beatrice de Mâcon. Apparently the name Tommaso was given to him in honour of St. Thomas à Becket, whose cult was raging at the time of his birth. There had been a series of minorities in the line of the counts of Savoy, including the father and grandfather of Tommaso, and his coming of age may well have been brought forward from experience of the activities of regents.
     "As ruler Tommaso I opened a golden age for Savoy, as he started the great push north-westwards which carried the area controlled by his successors over the Rhone into Bresse and to the Saone between Maçon and Châlons. Even more significant was his victory over Berthold V von Zähringen, which cleared the way for the conquest by his son Peter II of what are now the cantons of Vaud and Fribourg. Tommaso was also more successful than his father in reproducing his line; with his wife Beatrice de Genève, daughter of Guillaume I, comte de Genève, and his second wife Beatrix de Faucigny, he raised eight sons and six daughters of whom three sons and a daughter would have progeny. He also had two sons by an unnamed mistress, who did not have progeny. Tommaso died on 1 March 1233.
     "From the time of Tommaso I the counts of Savoy were effectively rulers of a minor kingdom and there were very few states of any size in which the central power had so successfully established its authority. Savoy's greatest days were under Peter and Philippe, sons of Tommaso. Savoy prospered and continued to expand from this time into the sixteenth century."10

Tommaso I (?) Count of Savoy, Aosta and Moriana
Per Med Lands:
     "THOMAS de Maurienne, son of HUMBERT III Comte de Maurienne et de Savoie & his fourth wife Béatrix de Vienne [Bourgogne-Comté] (Château de Carbonara 1178 after 26 Jun-Moncalieri 1 Mar 1233, bur Saint-Michel de la Cluse). An undated charter records a donation to Saint-Maurice by "felicis memorie Humbertus…Savoie comes" and the confirmation by "Thomas filius eiusdem comitis"[258]. He succeeded his father in 1189 as THOMAS I Comte de Maurienne et de Savoie, under the regency of Guglielmo V Marchese di Monferrato who brokered a favourable settlement to Comte Humbert III's dispute with the empire[259]. As Marchese Guglielmo was absent in Palestine at the time of the death of Comte Humbert III, the regency was presumably held and the negotiations carried out by his son Bonifazio, who succeeded as Marchese di Monferrato in 1192. This hypothesis appears confirmed by the following charter: "Thomas…Mauriannensis comes et marchio Italiæ" confirmed the donations made by "pater meus…[et] domini comitis Humberti…abavi mei" to the canons of Saint-Jean de Maurienne, with the advice of "B. matris mee et…tutore meo Bonifacio marchione Montisferrati", by charter dated 12 Jun 1189[260]. "Thomæ comitis et marchionis…et…Nichola filia comitis Gebennarum" granted privileges to the citizen of Susa by charter dated 25 Feb 1198[261]. He used the title Comte de Savoie: "Thomas comes Sabaud. et Amedeus eius filius" granted rights to the abbey of San Marco by charter dated 5 Mar 1200[262]. Comte Thomas supported the imperial party over the Guelfs, and was appointed Imperial Vicar in Italy. Philipp King of Germany granted him Moudon in Vaud, and Chieri and Testona in Piemonte in 1207. He also acquired Carignano, Pinerolo, Moncalieri, Vigone, Albenga and Savona in Piemonte. "Thomas Maurianensis comes et marchio" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Maurice, with the consent of "filiis suis Amedeo et Humberto", by charter dated 8 Nov 1217[263]. A charter dated 1224 records an agreement between "Thomæ com. Sabaud" and the bishop of Sion, witnessed by "ipse Thomas comes, Amedeus primogenitus illius, Comitissa uxor Thomæ, eorum quatuor filii clerici…Willelmus, Thomas, Petrus et Bonifacius"[264]. He bought the town of Chambéry in 1232. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1232 of "comitis Thome de Sabaudia"[265]. An indication of the precarious financial position of the counts of Savoy is provided by a third testament, dated 2 Nov 1240, made by Thomas´s son "Amadeus com Sab. et marchio in Italia" who repeated the nomination of "Thomæ, Flandriæ comiti, fratri suo" as his heir to "totius comitatus sui Sabaudiæ marchionatus Italiæ et ducatus Chablasii" if he died without male children, on condition that he satisfied all the debts of "Thomæ comitis patris et Humberti fratris ipsorum"[266].
     "m ([1196]) MARGUERITE [Beatrix] de Genève, daughter of GUILLAUME [I] Comte de Genève & his second wife Béatrix de Faucigny (-8 Apr 1257, bur Abbaye de Hautecombe). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Margareta filia domni de Fusceneis de matre Guilelmi, filii Humberti comitis Gebenensis" as wife of "comitis Thome de Sabaudia"[267]. As noted below, Marguerite is also called Beatrix in later sources. No explanation has been found for these dual names. The fact that "Beatrix" appears in a seal shows that it was not a transcription error. "Thomæ comitis et marchionis…et…Nichola [presumably a transcription error] filia comitis Gebennarum" granted privileges to the citizen of Susa by charter dated 25 Feb 1198[268]. The Complete Peerage[269] refers to unspecified "later writers" having evolved an incorrect theory that Thomas I Comte de Maurienne was married firstly to Béatrix and, after her death without issue, secondly to Marguerite, daughter of Guillaume de Faucigny, who was the mother of his children. The same source confirms that the two names in fact refer to the same person. A charter dated 1224 records an agreement between "Thomæ com. Sabaud" and the bishop of Sion, witnessed by "ipse Thomas comes, Amedeus primogenitus illius, Comitissa uxor Thomæ, eorum quatuor filii clerici…Willelmus, Thomas, Petrus et Bonifacius"[270]. "M. comitissa Maurian. uxor Thomæ comitis Maurianensis et marchionis Italiæ" donated property, with the consent of "Thomas com. Maurianæ et filii mei Amedeus et Aymo", by charter dated Dec 1227[271]. "M. comitissa Sabaudie et marchisa in Ytalia et…Amedeus, Aymo, W. electus Valentinus, Thomas, Petrus, Bonifacius et Philippus filii Thome Comitis Sab. et marchionis in Ytalia" confirmed donations to Hautecombe abbey by charter dated 26 Feb 1231[272]. "Beatrix uxor comitis Thomæ, Amadeus primogenitus et Aymo filii eius" confirmed the purchase of Chambéry by "Thoma comite" by charter dated 1232, with the seal of "Beatricis comitisse Sabaudie"[273]. "Amedeus comes Sabaudie et in Italie marchio…cum…genetrice sua et fratribus suis B. Bellicensi Electo et Philippo Metensi Primicerio" granted "villam S. Mauritii de Chablaisio" to "soror illorum Margareta comitissa de Kiborch" by charter dated 24 Feb 1240[274]. "Contessa Margarita di Savoia Marchesa in Italia" donated property to "Tomaso suo figlio Conte di Fiandra e d'Hainaut" with the consent of "Conte Amedeo di Savoia suo figlio Primogenito", by charter dated 4 Jan 1244[275]. The Pingonio Chronicon records the death "VI Id Apr" in 1257 of "Domina Beatrix de Gebennis comitissa Sabaudie et domina de Narembors, parens comitum Sabaudie"[276].
Med Lands cites:
[258] Cibrario & Promis (1833), Documenti, p. 101.
[259] Marie José (1956), p. 38.
[260] Carutti (1888), Documenti del libro primi, XXXVI, p. 204.
[261] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 41, p. 17.
[262] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 42, p. 18.
[263] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 47, p. 20.
[264] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 58, p. 25.
[265] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1232, MGH SS XXIII, p. 930.
[266] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 133, p. 68.
[267] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1235, MGH SS XXIII, p. 938.
[268] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 41, p. 17.
[269] CP X 805, footnote e.
[270] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 58, p. 25.
[271] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 67, p. 30.
[272] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 76, p. 34.
[273] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 83, p. 36.
[274] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 123, p. 59.
[275] State Archives, volume 109, page 3, fascicule 2.
[276] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 448, p. 222, quoting Pingonio data. Chronicon, fol. 354. verso.5


Tommaso I (?) Count of Savoy, Aosta and Moriana
Per Wikipedia:
     "Thomas ? (Tommaso I; 1178 – 1 March 1233) was Count of Savoy from 1189 to 1233. He is sometimes numbered "Thomas I" to distinguish him from his son of the same name, who governed Savoy but was not count.
     "Thomas was born in Aiguebelle, the son of Humbert III of Savoy and Beatrice of Viennois. His birth was seen as miraculous; his monkish father had despaired of having a male heir after three wives. Count Humbert sought counsel from St. Anthelm, who blessed Humbert three times, and it was seen as a prophecy come true when Thomas was born shortly before Anthelm himself died on 26 June 1178. He was named in honour of Saint Thomas Becket.
     "Thomas was still a minor when his father died on 4 March 1189, and a council of regency was established, composed of his mother Beatrice, his father's cousin Boniface I of Montferrat, and the Bishop of Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne. He had reached his majority by August 1191. Thomas possessed the martial abilities, energy, and brilliance that his father lacked, and Savoy enjoyed a golden age under his leadership. Despite his youth he began the push northwest into new territories. In the same year he granted Aosta Valley the "Charte des Franchises", recognising the right to administrative and political autonomy. This right was maintained until the eve of the French Revolution. Later he conquered Vaud, Bugey, and Carignano. He supported the Hohenstaufens, and was known as "Thomas the Ghibelline" because of his career as Imperial Vicar of Lombardy.
Career
     "Thomas worked throughout his career to expand the control and influence of the County of Savoy. One of the key tools that he used was his large number of children, who he worked to get into positions of influence in neighboring regions. In part, this was done by getting many of his sons into episcopal offices in surrounding territories, in a time when bishops had temporal as well as spiritual authority.[1] In addition to Guglielmo and Bonifacio, who made their careers in the clergy, their brother Thomas started out as a canon at Lausanne and became prévôt of Valence by 1226.[2] Pietro was also a canon at Lausanne and served as acting bishop there until he was replaced in 1231.[3] In 1219 he worked to get his daughter Beatrice married to the fourteen-year-old Ramon Berenguer IV, Count of Provence. This established a close relationship between the two adjoining counties which would help cement Savoy control over trade between Italy and France.[4]
     "Thomas also fought many battles to expand his control. In 1215, his troops fought in an alliance with Milan against Monferrato, destroying the town of Casale.[5] In 1222, he captured Cavour.[6]
     "Thomas also worked through diplomatic and economic means to expand his control. The county of Savoy long enjoyed control over critical passes through the Alps. In his quest to gain more control over Turin, Thomas made an agreement with their rival Asti to reroute their French trade around Turin through Savoyard lands in a treaty on 15 September 1224. In 1226, Emperor Frederick II came to northern Italy and named Thomas Imperial Vicar of Lombardy. In this role, he mediated in a Genoese rebellion and a dispute between the town of Marseille and their bishop.[7] Thomas also made a policy of granting franchises and charters to towns on key trade routes which enabled the merchant class to develop more wealth and built support for his rule.[8]
     "Thomas died at Moncalieri, Savoy.
Family and children
     "In 1195 he ambushed the party of Count William I of Geneva, which was escorting the count's daughter, Margaret of Geneva, to France for her intended wedding to King Philip II of France. Thomas carried off Margaret and married her himself, producing some eight sons and six daughters.
1. Amadeus, his immediate successor
2. Humbert, d. between March and November 1223
3. Thomas, lord and then count in Piedmont and founder of a line that became the Savoy-Achaea
4. Aymon, d. 30 August 1237, Lord of Chablais
5. William, Bishop of Valence and Dean of Vienne
6. Amadeus, Bishop of Maurienne
7. Peter, who resided much in England, became Earl of Richmond, and ultimately in 1263 became the disputed count of Savoy
8. Philip, archbishop of Lyon, who resigned, through marriage became Count Palatine of Burgundy and ultimately in 1268 became the disputed count of Savoy
9. Boniface, who became archbishop of Canterbury
10. Beatrice, d. 1265 or 1266, married in December 1219 to Ramon Berenguer IV, Count of Provence (1209-1245) and was mother of four queens
11. Alice (1209-1277), abbess of the monastery of St Pierre in Lyon (1250-1277)
12. Agatha, abbess of the monastery of St Pierre in Lyon (1277) following her sister's death (d. ?)
13. Margaret, d. 1273, married in 1218 to Hartmann IV of Kyburg[9]
14. Avita (1215-92)

     "He had illegitimate children too:
** Aymon, who was Count of Larches, married Beatrice of Grisel
** Thomas, "the big", who was count of Lioches
** Julius

References
** Chevalier, J. (1889). Quarante années de l'histoire des évêques de Valence. Paris.
** Cognasso, Francesco (1968). Il Piemonte nell’Età Sveva. Turin.
** Cognasso, Francesco (1940). Tommaso I ed Amedeo IV. Turin.
** Cox, Eugene L. (1974). The Eagles of Savoy. Princeton: Princeton University Press. ISBN 0691052166.
** Vaillant, P. (1960). "La Politique d'affranchisement des comtes de Savoie (1195-1401)". Etudes historiques à la mémoire de Noël Didier. Paris.
Notes
1. Cox 1974, p. 14-19.
2. Chevalier 1889, p. 4-5.
3. Cox 1974, p. 16.
4. Cox 1974, p. 20-21,29.
5. Cognasso 1940, p. 347vol.I
6. Cognasso 1940, p. 27vol.II
7. Cox 1974, p. 25-28.
8. Vaillant 1960.
9. Cox 1974, p. 463."11 GAV-21 EDV-22 GKJ-23.12 He was Count of Savoy, Aosta and Moriana between 1189 and 1233.1,3

Citations

  1. [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe (NY: Barnes & Noble Books, 2002), Table 97: Italy and Sardinia - General survey (House of Savoy). Hereinafter cited as Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027292&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Savoy 1 page - The House of Savoy: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/savoy/savoy1.html
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Umberto III: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027373&tree=LEO
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAVOY.htm#ThomasIdied1233B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice de Mâcon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027395&tree=LEO
  7. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 133-26, p. 118. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  8. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 14 December 2019), memorial page for Thomas I of Savoy (20 May 1180–1 Mar 1233), Find A Grave Memorial no. 42986886, citing Sacra di San Michele, Chiusa di San Michele, Città Metropolitana di Torino, Piemonte, Italy ; Maintained by Lutetia (contributor 46580078), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/42986886/thomas_i-of_savoy. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  9. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgkgenev.htm#BeatrixMargueriteGeneveMThomasISavoie
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027292&tree=LEO
  11. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas,_Count_of_Savoy. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  12. [S619] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 27 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 6, Ed. 1, Family #6-1556 (n.p.: Release date: August 22, 1996, unknown publish date).
  13. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Savoy 1 page (The House of Savoy): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/savoy/savoy1.html
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Umberto de Savoie: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00478350&tree=LEO
  15. [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession, Table 46: Aragon: End of the original dynasty.
  16. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 12. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
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  18. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aimon de Savoie: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00478347&tree=LEO
  19. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Peter II de Savoie: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00141240&tree=LEO
  20. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Philippe de Savoie: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00314892&tree=LEO

Béatrice (?) de Genève1

F, #5125, b. circa 1173, d. 8 April 1257
FatherGuillaume I (?) Count of Geneva, Lord of Faucigny2,3 b. 1130, d. 25 Jul 1195
MotherBeatrix/Beatrice de Faucigny3 b. 1138
ReferenceGAV21 EDV22
Last Edited17 Apr 2020
     Béatrice (?) de Genève was born circa 1173 at Geneva, Switzerland; Weis [1992:118] says b. ca 1180; Genealogics says b. est. 1173.4,1 She married Tommaso I (?) Count of Savoy, Aosta and Moriana, son of Umberto III (?) Comte de Savoie, Aosta and Moriana and Beatrix (?) de Mâcon, in 1196.5,4,2,6,3
Béatrice (?) de Genève died on 8 April 1257 at Pierre-Chatel, Isere, France;
Genalogics says d. 13 Apr 1236; Med Lands & Weis says d. 8 Apr 1257.7,4,2,3
Béatrice (?) de Genève was buried after 8 April 1257 at Abbaye de Hautcombe, Saint-Pierre-de-Curtille, Departement de la Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1179, Geneva, Geneva, Geneve, Switzerland
     DEATH     8 Apr 1257 (aged 77–78), Pierre-Chatel, Departement de l'Isère, Rhône-Alpes, France
     Nobility. Born the daughter of William I of Geneva and Béatrix de Faucigny. She married Count Thomas I of Savoy in 1196 and bore him 15 children, 10 sons and 5 daughters.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Guillaume de Genève unknown–1195
     Spouse
          Thomas I of Savoy 1180–1233
     Children
          Amadeus IV of Savoy 1197–1253
          Beatrice of Savoy 1198–1266
          Thomas II of Savoy 1199–1259
          Guillaume of Savoy 1201–1239
          Pierre II of Savoy 1203–1268
          Boniface of Savoy 1207–1270
          Philippe I of Savoy 1207–1285
     BURIAL     Abbaye de Hautecombe, Saint-Pierre-de-Curtille, Departement de la Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France
     Created by: Lutetia
     Added: 24 Oct 2007
     Find A Grave Memorial 22441610.8
     Béatrice (?) de Genève
Per Med Lands: "MARGUERITE [Beatrix] (-8 Apr 1257, bur Abbaye de Hautecombe). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Margareta filia domni de Fusceneis de matre Guilelmi, filii Humberti comitis Gebenensis" as wife of "comitis Thome de Sabaudia"[103]. As noted below, Marguerite is also called Beatrix in later sources. No explanation has been found for these dual names. The fact that "Beatrix" appears in a seal shows that it was not a transcription error. "Thomæ comitis et marchionis…et…Nichola [presumably a transcription error] filia comitis Gebennarum" granted privileges to the citizen of Susa by charter dated 25 Feb 1198[104]. The Complete Peerage[105] refers to unspecified "later writers" who evolved an incorrect theory that Thomas I Comte de Maurienne was married firstly to Béatrix and, after her death without issue, secondly to Marguerite, daughter of Guillaume de Faucigny, who was the mother of his children. The same source confirms that the two names in fact refer to the same person. A charter dated 1224 records an agreement between "Thomæ com. Sabaud" and the bishop of Sion, witnessed by "ipse Thomas comes, Amedeus primogenitus illius, Comitissa uxor Thomæ, eorum quatuor filii clerici…Willelmus, Thomas, Petrus et Bonifacius"[106]. "M. comitissa Maurian. uxor Thomæ comitis Maurianensis et marchionis Italiæ" donated property, with the consent of "Thomas com. Maurianæ et filii mei Amedeus et Aymo", by charter dated Dec 1227[107]. "Beatrix uxor comitis Thomæ, Amadeus primogenitus et Aymo filii eius" confirmed the purchase of Chambéry by "Thoma comite" by charter dated 1232, with the seal of "Beatricis comitisse Sabaudie"[108]. "Contessa Margarita di Savoia Marchesa in Italia" donated property to "Tomaso suo figlio Conte di Fiandra e d'Hainaut" with the consent of "Conte Amedeo di Savoia suo figlio Primogenito", by charter dated 4 Jan 1244[109]. The Pingonio Chronicon records the death "VI Id Apr" in 1257 of "Domina Beatrix de Gebennis comitissa Sabaudie et domina de Narembors, parens comitum Sabaudie"[110]. m ([1196]) THOMAS I Comte de Savoie, son of HUMBERT III Comte de Maurienne et de Savoie & his fourth wife Béatrix de Vienne [Bourgogne-Comté] (Château de Carbonara 1178 after 26 Jun-Moncalieri 1 Mar 1233, bur Saint-Michel de la Cluse)."
Med Lands cites:
[103] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1235, MGH SS XXIII, p. 938.
[104] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 41, p. 17.
[105] CP X 805, footnote e.
[106] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 58, p. 25.
[107] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 67, p. 30.
[108] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 83, p. 36.
[109] State Archives, volume 109, page 3, fascicule 2.
[110] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 448, p. 222, quoting Pingonio data. Chronicon, fol. 354. verso.3
GAV-21 EDV-22 GKJ-23.7

Béatrice (?) de Genève
Per Wikipedia:
     "Margaret of Geneva (1180?-1252), countess of Savoy, was the daughter of William I, Count of Geneva, and Beatrice de Faucigny (1160-1196).
     "She was supposed to become the third wife of Philip II of France. However, when her father was escorting her to France in May 1195, Thomas I of Savoy carried her off. Attracted by her beauty, Count Thomas then married her himself, claiming that Philip II was already married (the French King had married Ingeborg of Denmark in 1193 but had repudiated her soon thereafter). Margaret's father fell sick and died after the wedding, and her mother died the following year.
Issue
     "The children of Marguerite and Thomas I of Savoy were:
** Amadeus IV of Savoy (1197–1253)
** Helena of Savoy (d. 1230)
** Humbert (d. 1223)
** Thomas, Count of Flanders, count in Piedmont
** Elisabeth of Savoy (d. 1233)
** Aimone (d. 1237), Lord of Chablais
** Henry (1205-1230), Lord of Lyon
** William of Savoy, Bishop of Valence and Dean of Vienne
** Amadeus of Savoy, Bishop of Maurienne
** Mary of Savoy (d. 1210)
** Magdalena of Savoy (d. 1239), abbess of Hautecombe Abbey
** Peter II of Savoy, Earl of Richmond and later disputed count of Savoy
** Philip I of Savoy, archbishop of Lyon, later Count Palatine of Burgundy by marriage and disputed count of Savoy in 1268
** Boniface of Savoy, Archbishop of Canterbury
** Beatrice of Savoy (1205 – 4 January 1267), wife of Ramon Berenguer IV, Count of Provence. She was married in 1219 and was mother to four queens consort and maternal grandmother of Philip III of France and Edward I of England.
** Alasia of Savoy (d. 1250), abbess of St Pierre, Lyon
** Agatha of Savoy (d. 1245), abbess of St Pierre, Lyon
** Margaret of Savoy (d. 1273), wife of Hartmann I of Kyburg
** Avita of Savoy (1215–92)

     "Margaret was the ancestress of many royal houses, including the Valois and Bourbons. After her death, she was buried at Hautecombe Abbey in Savoy."9



Béatrice (?) de Genève
Per Genealogics: "Béatrice de Genève was the daughter of Guillaume I, comte de Genève, and his second wife Béatrix de Faucigny. She was supposed to become the third wife of Philippe II August, king of France, but in 1195 while on her way to Paris she was abducted by Tommaso I, comte de Savoie. In the following year Tommaso, son of Umberto III, comte de Savoie, and his last wife Beatrice de Maçon, married her, claiming that Philippe II was already married (the French king had married Ingeborg (Isambour) of Denmark in 1193 but had repudiated her soon thereafter). She and Tommaso had eight sons and six daughters of whom three sons and a daughter would have progeny. Béatrice died on 13 April 1236."1

Béatrice (?) de Genève was also known as Margareta (?) de Genève.1 Béatrice (?) de Genève was also known as Margaret (Beatrix) (?) de Geneva & Faucigny. Béatrice (?) de Genève was also known as Nicole (?) de Genève.1 Béatrice (?) de Genève was also known as Marburite/Beatrix (?) de Genève.3

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Béatrice de Genève: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027293&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Savoy 1 page - The House of Savoy: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/savoy/savoy1.html
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgkgenev.htm#BeatrixMargueriteGeneveMThomasISavoie. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 133-26, p. 118. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027292&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAVOY.htm#ThomasIdied1233B
  7. [S619] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 27 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 6, Ed. 1, Family #6-1556 (n.p.: Release date: August 22, 1996, unknown publish date).
  8. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 16 December 2019), memorial page for Beatrice Marguerite of Geneva (1179–8 Apr 1257), Find A Grave Memorial no. 22441610, citing Abbaye de Hautecombe, Saint-Pierre-de-Curtille, Departement de la Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France ; Maintained by Lutetia (contributor 46580078), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/22441610/beatrice_marguerite-of_geneva. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  9. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_of_Geneva. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  10. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Savoy 1 page (The House of Savoy): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/savoy/savoy1.html
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Umberto de Savoie: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00478350&tree=LEO
  12. [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe (NY: Barnes & Noble Books, 2002), Table 97: Italy and Sardinia - General survey (House of Savoy). Hereinafter cited as Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession.
  13. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 12. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Tommaso II de Savoie: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027333&tree=LEO
  15. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAVOY.htm#ThomasIIdied1259B
  16. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aimon de Savoie: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00478347&tree=LEO
  17. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Peter II de Savoie: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00141240&tree=LEO
  18. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Philippe de Savoie: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00314892&tree=LEO

Umberto III (?) Comte de Savoie, Aosta and Moriana1,2,3,4

M, #5126, b. between 1 August 1136 and 4 August 1136, d. 4 March 1189
FatherAmadeo III (?) Count of Savoy, Aosta and Maurienne1,3,5,6 b. c 1092, d. 30 Aug 1148
MotherMathilda/Maud d'Albon Countess d'Albon-Viennois3,6,7 d. a 30 Mar 1148
ReferenceGAV22 EDV23
Last Edited17 Apr 2020
     Umberto III (?) Comte de Savoie, Aosta and Moriana was born between 1 August 1136 and 4 August 1136 at Avigliana, Città Metropolitana di Torino, Piemonte, Italy (now); Genealogy.EU and Med Lands say b. 4 Aug 1136; Genealogics says b. 1 Aug 1136.3,6,4,8,9 He married Faidiva (?) de Toulouse, daughter of Alfonse 1er Jourdain (?) Comte de Toulouse, Duc de Narbonne, marquis de and Faydiva/Faydide (?) d'Uzes, before 3 January 1151;
His 1st wife.3,10,11,4,9,12 Umberto III (?) Comte de Savoie, Aosta and Moriana married Gertrude (?) de Flandres, Countess of Savoy, daughter of Thierry III d'Alsace (?) comte de Flandres and Sibilla/Sibyl/Sibylle (?) d'Anjou, Countess of Flanders, in 1155;
His 2nd wife; her 1st husband; Genealogy.EU says m. 1157; Leo van de Pas says m. "about 1155"; Racines et Histoire says m 1155.3,13,14,6,4,9,15,16 Umberto III (?) Comte de Savoie, Aosta and Moriana and Gertrude (?) de Flandres, Countess of Savoy were divorced before 1162.13,3,17,14,9,15,16 Umberto III (?) Comte de Savoie, Aosta and Moriana married Klementia (?) von Zähringen, daughter of Konrad I von Zähringen Herzog von Zähringen and Clémence/Clementia (?) de Namur, circa 1164;
His 3rd wife; her 2nd husband.18,3,4,9,19 Umberto III (?) Comte de Savoie, Aosta and Moriana married Beatrix (?) de Mâcon, daughter of Gérard I (?) Cte de Mâcon et de Vienne and Guigonne/Maurette (?) de Salins, circa 1175;
His 4th wife; Genealogy.EU (Ivrea 4 page) says m. ca 1175.)3,20,4,21,22
Umberto III (?) Comte de Savoie, Aosta and Moriana died on 4 March 1189 at Chambery, Departement de la Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France (now).18,3,6,9,4,1,8
Umberto III (?) Comte de Savoie, Aosta and Moriana was buried after 4 March 1189 at Abbaye de Hautcombe, Saint-Pierre-de-Curtille, Departement de la Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1136, Avigliana, Città Metropolitana di Torino, Piemonte, Italy
     DEATH     4 Mar 1189 (aged 52–53), Chambery, Departement de la Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France
     Nobility, Count of Savoy only son of Amadee III and Mathilde de Albon. He was married four times and was beatified in 1838 by Pope Gregory XVI.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Amadeus de Savoy 1092–1148
     Spouses
          Clemetina von Zähringen 1137–1175
          Béatrice de Vienne of Savoy 1160–1230
     Siblings
          Mafalda de Saboia 1125–1157
     Children
          Thomas I of Savoy 1180–1233
     BURIAL     Abbaye de Hautecombe, Saint-Pierre-de-Curtille, Departement de la Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France
     Created by: Lutetia
     Added: 27 Apr 2012
     Find A Grave Memorial 89199245.8
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. Page 110.
2. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald. 67.4


Umberto III (?) Comte de Savoie, Aosta and Moriana
Per Stewart email: "Comments interspersed:
""Leo van de Pas"" wrote in message news:001401c4f10d$416f5260$c3b4fea9@email...
>> Umberto III was only 12 years old when his father died. At about 15 he married Faydiva (origins unknown) and about three years later Faydiva died.
     "Faydiva's family is not recorded, as Leo says, but due to the unusual name they shared as well as fitting chronology she is usually supposed to have been daughter of Faydiva (or Fraisseta), the wife of Alphons Jourdain, count of Toulouse.
>> About 1155 he married Gertrud of Flanders but they divorced before 1162. Does anyone know why they divorced?
     "No reason is given - all we know is that Gertrud was confined by Umberto, and rescued by a cleric from Flanders, Robert, provost of Arie, who profited from his efforts by the high regard of her brother & later became bishop-elect of Cambrai (he was murdered at the behest of Jacques, seigneur of Avesnes, near Condé on 4 October 1174, still unconsecrated - no good deed went unpunished in the 12th century).
     "However, there could be a clue in this to the date of her separation, as we are told that she was restored to her brother Philippe despite the fact that their father Thierry d'Alsace was living until January 1168, well after Gertrud's second marriage. Possibly she came back from Savoy during one of Thierry's absences on crusade, when Philippe was ruling Flanders in his stead. The likeliest time is between 13 May 1157, when he left for Palestine, and 16 August 1159, when he returned.
>> In 1164 he married the also divorced Klementia von Zähringen. ES Volume II gives them three daughters, two married to the same Azzo VI d'Este, but when you go to ES I.1 Tafel 31 Azzo VI has three wives but only one is a Savoy.
     "This doubling of Azzo VI's second wife into two sisters from Savoy is an error. Umberto and Klementia had only two daughters, made explicit in his own agreement for the marriage of the elder - she, named Alicia (Aalis), was betrothed 1173 to John Lackland, later king of England, but she was evidently dead by June 1178 when Umberto was just as definitely said to have only one daughter when he was reconciled to St Anthelm, bishop of Belley on the latter's deathbed. The name of this girl is unknown, but later evidence suggests that Azzo VI's Savoyard wife was named Sophia, like one of Klementia's great-great-grandmothers. She is not named in any contemporary document, and her family connection is only known from the epitaph of her daughter Beatrice. This is given in vol I of Ludovico Antonio Muratori's _Delle antichità Estensi ed Italiane_, 2 vols (Modena, 1717-1740), and for some unexplained reason Muratori referred to the lady as Eleanor, causing the confusion still found in ES II.
>> Then he married Beatrice de Macon by whom he fathered his son and heir. Can anyone give biographical details about this Thomas III ?
     "He wasn't Thomas 'III' of Savoy, being the first of that name - apparently this was given to him in honour of St Thomas Becket, whose cult was raging at the time of his birth. Thomas III was his grandson (died 1282).
     "Thomas I was born soon after St Anthelm died on 26 June 1178 - the birthdate sometimes given (20 May 1177) is wrong. We know that St Anthelm blessed Umberto and his "son" three times, despite being reminded that the count had only a sole daughter, and it was taken as a saintly prophesy when Thomas was born not long afterwards. He was evidently acting as count, as if he was already of age, by early August 1191, which has been taken to indicate that he must have been at least 14 years old by then & consequently born by August 1177. However, there had been a series of minorities in the line of counts of Savoy, including the father and gradfather of Thomas, and his coming of age may well have been brought forward from experience of the activities of regents.
     "He became known as "Thomas the Ghibelline" from his career as imperial vicar of Lombardy. He used this position to restore the power that had waned under his father, and to extend his territories. His sons, & daughters through marriage, spread the family's prestige. Some genealogies give him several wives, but there is clear evidence of only one, named Margaret (and also identified as N, perhaps for Nicola if not a mistake). There was no other wife named Beatrix, but this was Margaret's mother's name and has also been applied to her.
>From this generation onwards the genealogy & chronology are better established. However, one odd interpretation keeps cropping up:
     "The wife of Thomas I's eldest son & heir, Count Amadeo IV of Savoy, was named Anne and has also become known as Margaret - possibly by confusion with her mother-in-law mentioned above, who lived on throughout her son's reign as count.
     "Patrick Van Kerrebrouck [in _Les Capétiens 987-1328_ (Villeneuve d'Ascq (2000) p. 573] makes Anne (calling her Marguerite) unequivocally a daughter of Duke Hugo III of Burgundy & Beatrix, countess of Albon, noting that Ernest Petit didn't include her in his history of the dukes but without giving any authority for the claimed relationship - directly or otherwise it is derived, along with the name Marguerite, from _Histoire de Dauphiné et des princes qui ont porté le nom de Dauphins_ by Jean-Pierre Moret de Bourchenu, marquis de Valbonnais (Geneva, 1722). However, chronology is against this filiation, as well as an absence of medieval evidence - Duke Hugo III's son Guigo VI André, count of Albon, was born in 1184, and it is unlikely that he had a full sister as young as Countess Anne of Savoy who was contracted to marry around two years after his own daughter (a countess of Montfort). In the chronicle of Hautecombe abbey, compiled ca 1400, Anne was said to be daughter of a count of Albon, but her father is not named. It is unlikely that earlier sources (now lost) pointed to a duke of Burgundy under this label, just because he held the lesser title in right of his wife, and the reference was more probably to Guigo VI André himself. He married first in 1202 and could well have been Anne's father. Peter Stewart."23

Umberto III (?) Comte de Savoie, Aosta and Moriana
Per Genealogics:
     "Umberto, known as 'the Blessed', was born on 1 August 1136, the son of Amadeo III, comte de Savoie, and Mathilde d'Albon. In 1148, when only twelve years old, he succeeded his father as count of Savoy.
     "According to Christopher Cope (_The Lost Kingdom of Burgundy_), 'Humbert III, who reigned from 1148 to 1189, was a man of irresolute spirit who was disconsolate at being born a prince and preferred the seclusion of a monastery. He only renounced his chosen state of celibacy so as to give his land an heir'.
     "Before 3 January 1151 he married Faydiva whose origins are unknown. She died about 1154 and a year later he married Gertrud of Flanders. Umberto confined Gertrud for reasons unknown, but she was rescued by a cleric from Flanders, Robert, provost of Arie, who profited from his efforts through the high regard of her brother and later became bishop-elect of Cambrai. However on 4 October 1174, while still not consecrated, he was murdered at the behest of Jacques d'Avesnes.
     "Before 1162 Umberto III and Gertrud were divorced. At this point he gave up his attempts at parenthood and became a Carthusian monk. However, the nobles and common people of Savoy begged him to marry yet again, which he reluctantly did.
     "In 1164 he married Klementia von Zähringen and they became the parents of two daughters, whereupon Umberto attempted to return to the monastic life yet again. Klementia died between 1173 and 1175, and he was prevailed upon to marry for a fourth time. About 1175 he married Beatrice de Maçon and by her fathered his son and heir Tommaso, who would rule Savoy as Tommaso I and have progeny to continue his line. When Umberto III died on 4 March 1189, his son was not quite twelve, but succeeded him immediately without the appointment of a regent."4 He was comte de Maurienne et de Savoie.6

Umberto III (?) Comte de Savoie, Aosta and Moriana
Per Wikipedia:
     "Humbert III (1136, Avigliana, Piedmont – 4 March 1189, Chambéry, Savoy), surnamed the Blessed, was Count of Savoy from 1148 to 1188. His parents were Amadeus III of Savoy and Mathilde d'Albon the daughter of Guigues III of Albon. He ceded rights and benefits to monasteries and played a decisive role in the organization of Hautecombe Abbey. It is said that he would rather have been monk than a sovereign. On the death of his third wife he retired to Hautecombe, but then changed his mind and, by his fourth wife finally had son, Thomas. He sided with the Guelph party of Pope Alexander III against the Ghibelline Emperor Frederick Barbarossa. The result was an invasion of his states twice: in 1174 Susa was set on fire, and in 1187 Henry VI banished him from the Holy Roman Empire and wrested away most of his domains, of which he was left only with the valleys of Susa and Aosta. He died at Chambéry in 1189. He was the first prince buried at Hautecombe. His memorial day is March 4.
Life and reign
Early life
     "Humbert III was born around 1136 in the castle of Avigliana, near Turin, to Count Amadeus III and Mathilde d'Albon, Countess of Albon and Vienne. He is an important figure in medieval society, as attested in the history of House of Savoy. His life was characterized by certain key features, including mysticism, borne of a vocation and tradition of the contemplative life, which came about in the events of his time as warrior and politician, which he undertook exclusively for dynastic reasons.
     "He inherited from his father, as well as from his grandfather, Humbert II, the dream of reconstituting the fragmented Kingdom of Burgundy, in stark opposition to the centralizing policy of the French royal family. In his efforts he was supported by Frederick I Barbarossa, and found himself induced to play a shrewd political subjugation of neighboring feudal lords or settled among his domains. Like his father, Humbert II, who died young when he was still a minor, Amadeus III entrusted the education of his son, Humbert III, to St. Amedeus of Lausanne, former abbot of Hautecombe, and under his guidance the young Humbert made great progress in studies and spiritual formation, despising the apparent splendor of worldly things, and giving himself to prayer, meditation and penance.[1] To better achieve his lofty goals, he frequently withdrew to Hautecombe Abbey, on the banks of Lake Bourget in Savoy, founded by his father. He always left the abbey with regret, every time the family and the Savoyard nobility called him back to occupy him with political matters.
Marriages
     "Amadeus III was a pilgrim in the Holy Land in 1122. He went there through the offices of Pope Callixtus II, and in 1146 he participated in the Second Crusade, and died on the island of Cyprus in Nicosia on 1 April 1148, where he was buried, leaving the twelve-year old Humbert as heir. Although still at an early age, in 1151 Humbert was bethrothed to Faidiva, daughter of Alphonse Jourdain, Count of Toulouse. She soon died without issue. He later married Gertrude, daughter of Thierry, Count of Flanders and Sibylla of Anjou. This second marriage was annulled.
     "In 1164, Humbert married Clementia of Zähringen,[2] by whom he had two daughters: Alice and Sofia. She died in 1173, and he decided to retire to Hautecombe, but not for long. In 1177, the nobility in 1177 convinced him marry for the fourth time. As wife, he took Beatrice, daughter Géraud I of Mâcon and Maurette de Salins. At last he had a male heir, Thomas, to continue the dynasty. Beatrice also bore him a daughter who died at the age of seven.
Reign
     "Humbert's reign was long. It lasted forty years, and was characterized by struggles with the Holy Roman Emperor, various lords and count-bishops. The main reason for conflict consisted in the patronage of the Bishop of Turin by Frederick Barbarossa, who dreamed of undisturbed dominance of the capital of Piedmont. This led to a gradual reduction of the possessions and authority of Humbert III on the Italian side, leaving him with the rump territories of the valleys of Susa and Aosta. In 1187, he was banished from the Holy Roman Empire by Henry VI, for supporting the emperor's opponents. He did not retire, as has been said, to his Alpine domains, devoting himself in particular to the practice of personal virtues and fraternal charity. He also promoted the foundation of Precettoria of St. Anthony of Ranverso at Buttigliera Alta, not far from the town of Avigliana, entrusting it to Antoniani from Vienne, France.
Death
     "The death of Humbert III, March 4, 1189 in Chambéry, at the age of fifty-two, was mourned sincerely by all the people. He was the first prince of Savoy to be buried in Hautecombe Abbey, which has since become a burial place for the dynasty.
Veneration
     "The spirituality of Humbert undoubtedly blossomed in an environment of ancient Christian traditions, favored especially by the example of his father, a pilgrim and crusader in the Holy Land, and of his tutor, St. Amadeus, Bishop of Lausanne. However, Humbert's life was full of contradictions: He was a lover of peace, but had frequent hostilities and wars. He was penitent, ascetic, contemplative, but was forced to take the reins of government, during which time he had a life of action, and found himself forced in marriage in order to have an heir. However, he let unmistakable signs of great moral balance, severity with himself and indulgence and love of neighbor. He was a benefactor to churches, monasteries, and charitable causes, the care of the poor. Throughout his life, he supported Hautecombe Abbey. In 1188 he founded the Monastery of Sant'Antonio di Ranverso.
     "Humbert was venerated by many immediately after his death. Miracles were reportedly wrought through his intercession. In Aosta, he is depicted on the facade of the city's cathedral. He is mentioned by St. Alphonsus Ligouri as a particularly pious monk.[3]
     "In 1838, Charles Albert, King of Sardinia and his descendant, tried and failed to have him beatified by Pope Gregory XVI. The king's efforts on behalf of Boniface of Savoy, Archbishop of Canterbury, also failed.[citation needed] In Italy, Humbert is still remembered in particular at Racconigi, where the Royal Sanctuary of the Madonna delle Grazie houses a picture of him.
Family
Humbert had four wives:
     "1.Faidiva of Toulouse (Italian) (d. c.1154) daughter of Alphonse Jourdain, Count of Toulouse[4]
     "2.Gertrude of Flanders (m. abt 1155). The marriage was annulled, she was confined to a convent, later freed, and returned to the court of her brother, Philip of Flanders[5]
     "3.Clementia of Zähringen (married 1164), daughter of Conrad I, Duke of Zähringen.[2] They had 2 daughters:
** Sofia, (1165–1202), married Azzo VI of Este[6]
** Alicia, (1166–1178), betrothed to John of England[7]

     "4.Beatrice of Viennois[6] and had one son:
** Thomas, (born 1178)[6]

Notes
1. Waddell, Chrysogonus (1994). Amadeus of Lausanne. Cistercian Publications. ISBN 978-0-8790-7418-0.
2. Previte-Orton 1912, p. 329.
3. Liguori, Alphonsus Maria de'. "Apparecchio alla Morte". Intratext. Retrieved 28 February 2016.
4. Previte-Orton 1912, p. 318.
5. Previte-Orton 1912, p. 319.
6. Previte-Orton 1912, p. 352.
7. Previte-Orton 1912, p. 339.
References
** Previte-Orton, C.W. (1912). The Early History of the House of Savoy: 1000-1233. Cambridge University Press.
External links
** Umberto at Patron Saints Index: https://web.archive.org/web/20070713144028/http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/sainth30.htm.24 " GAV-22 EDV-23 GKJ-24.25 Umberto III (?) Comte de Savoie, Aosta and Moriana was also known as Humbert III (?) comte de Maurienne et de Savoie.6

Umberto III (?) Comte de Savoie, Aosta and Moriana
Per Med Lands:
     "HUMBERT de Savoie, son of AMEDEE III Comte de Maurienne et de Savoie & his second wife Mathilde d'Albon [Viennois] (Avigliana 4 Aug 1136-Chambéry 4 Mar 1189, bur Abbaye de Hautecombe). Robert of Torigny names "Humbertus comes Moriennæ" as "filius Amati comitis"[226]. "A. comes et marchio cum uxore sua M." donated property to the monastery of Ripalta, with the support of "eorum filio Umberto", by charter dated 9 Jan 1137[227]. "Amedeus comes et marchio et Maies comitissa uxor eius et Umbertus eorum filius" donated property to the monastery of Saint-Maurice by charter dated 30 Mar 1143[228]. "Amedeus comes et marchio et Majes comitissa uxor eius et Umbertus eorum filius" confirmed the rights of the monastery of Saint-Maurice d´Agaune by charter dated 30 Mar 1148[229]. He succeeded in 1150 as HUMBERT III Comte de Maurienne et de Savoie. "Humbertus Mauriacensis comes et marchio" donated "locum de Tyneres" to the abbey of Hautcrêt by charter dated 1150[230]. He established close relations with Henry II King of England, negotiating the marriage of one of his daughters with the king's son John[231]. He attempted to regain control over Turin and the surrounding lands, but came into conflict with Emperor Friedrich I "Barbarossa" who was also extending his power in northern Italy. Although the emperor was obliged to withdraw in 1168, he returned in 1174, burned the town of Susa in revenge for its opposition during his first Italian expedition, and deprived Comte Humbert of supremacy over the bishoprics of Turin, Belley and Tarentaise, placing them under the direct control of the empire. Comte Humbert continued to fight and, after refusing a summons to attend an imperial tribunal, was condemned in his absence to banishment from the empire and confiscation of his lands. Heinrich VI King of Germany was attempting to enforce the sentence on behalf of his father the emperor, when Comte Humbert died. "Umbertus comes de Morienna" granted privileges to the monastery of Santa Maria di Staffarda by charter dated 28 Jun 1172, witnessed by "Rodulfus Alaman, Poncius de Confluent…"[232]. The dating clause of a charter dated 20 Oct 1188, which records an agreement between the bishop of Maurienne and the canons of his cathedral, names "Humberto comite presidente"[233]. The necrology of Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne records the death "IV Non Mar" in 1189 of "dognus Humbertus…comes Maur. et marchio Italie"[234]. He was beatified in 1836.
     "m firstly (before 3 Jan 1151) FAYDIVE, daughter of --- (-[1154]). "Umbertus comes, Amedei comitis filius…cum uxore sua…Faidiva" donated property by charter dated 3 Jan 1151[235]. The origins of Faydive are not known. Her unusual name suggests that she was Faydive de Toulouse, daughter of Alphonse I Jourdain Comte de Toulouse & his wife Faydive [Faydide] d'Uzès (-[1154]). However, she was not the only noble recorded with this name in south-western France during the early 12th century so this co-identity is not without doubt.
     "m secondly ([1155], divorced before 1162) as her first husband, GERTRUDE de Flandre, daughter of THIERRY I Count of Flanders & his second wife Sibylle d'Anjou (-3 Mar after 1186). The Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana names (in order) "Philippum, Matheum, Petrum et tres filias" as the children of "Theodericus filius ducis Alsatie [et] Sibillam", not naming the daughters but specifying that "quarum primogenita nupsit Amico comiti Intermontano"[236]. The Flandria Generosa names (in order) "Gertrudem et Margaretam" as the two daughters of Count Thierry & his second wife[237]. The Flandria Generosa, in a later manuscript, names "Gertrudis primogenita" and her first husband "comiti de Moriana", from whom she was separated, and her second husband "Hugoni de Oisi", specifying that she later became a nun at "Mencinis"[238]. She married secondly (after 1158) as his first wife, Hugues [III] d'Oisy Châtelain de Cambrai, and became a nun at Messines in [1177]. Philippe Count of Flanders, on the point of leaving on crusade, declared that "sororis mee Gertrudis quondam Morianensis comitisse" had renounced her inheritance before becoming a nun, by charter dated [24 Apr/12 Jun] 1177[239].
     "m thirdly (1164) as her second husband, KLEMENTIA von Zähringen, divorced wife of HEINRICH “der Löwe” Duke of Saxony and Bavaria, daughter of KONRAD Herzog von Zähringen & his wife Clémence de Namur (-[1173/75]). The Chronicon Sancti Michaelis Luneburgensis names "filiam ducis Zaringie, Clementiam" as wife of "Heinricus dux"[240]. The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to "filiam [uxorem]…dux Saxonum Henricus" as the daughter of "ducissam…Ciringiorum [filiam Godefridi comitis Namurcensi]"[241]. Heiress of Badenweiler, although her first husband sold these Swabian estates to Friedrich I "Barbarossa" King of Germany in 1158, receiving in exchange Herzberg, Scharzfels and Pöhlde south of the Harz[242]. Her first marriage was arranged to confirm her father's alliance with the Welf party in southern Germany[243]. The Annales Palidenses record the repudiation by "Heinricus dux" of his first wife "Bertoldi ducis Zaringe sorore"[244]. Her first husband repudiated Klementia because of the growing difficulties between her brother Duke Berthold IV and Emperor Friedrich I "Barbarossa", with whom Duke Heinrich was by then in close alliance[245]. Her second marriage is confirmed by Ralph de Diceto´s Ymagines Historiarum which record in 1173 the betrothal of “Henricus rex Angliæ, Johanni filio suo cognomento sine terra” and [her daughter] “septenni filiam primogenitam Humberti comitis de Moriana...ex relicta Henrici Saxonis ducis”[246].
     "m fourthly ([1175]) BEATRIX de Vienne, daughter of GERARD Comte de Mâcon et de Vienne [Bourgogne-Comté] & his wife Maurette de Salins (-8 Apr 1230). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to one of the unnamed sisters of "comitem Guilelmum Matisconensem sive Viennensem et Galterum de Salins et quemdam Gerardum et Stephanum Bisuntinensem electum" as mother of "comes Thomas de Sabaudia"[247]. "Thomas…Mauriannensis comes et marchio Italiæ" confirmed the donations made by "pater meus…[et] domini comitis Humberti…abavi mei" to the canons of Saint-Jean de Maurienne, with the advice of "B. matris mee et…tutore meo Bonifacio marchione Montisferrati", by charter dated 12 Jun 1189[248]. The necrology of Hautecombe records the death of "Beatrix comitissa" 8 Apr 1230[249]."
Med Lands cites:
[226] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, p. 27.
[227] Regesta comitum Sabaudiæ, CCLXXIII, p. 99.
[228] Cibrario & Promis (1833), Documenti, p. 60.
[229] Regesta comitum Sabaudiæ, CCLXXXVIII, p. 104.
[230] Hisely, J.-J. (ed.) Cartulaires de la Chartreuse d'Oujon et de l'abbaye de Hautcrêt, Mémoires et documents publiés par la société d´histoire de la Suisse romande Tome XII (Lausanne) ("Hautcrêt"), 4, p. 5.
[231] Marie José (1956), p. 35.
[232] Pinerolo, XLVIII, p. 69.
[233] Maurienne Chartes, 21, p. 35.
[234] Maurienne Chartes, Obituaire du Chapitre, p. 340.
[235] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 26, p. 7.
[236] Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana, Continuatio Leidensis et Divionensis, MGH SS IX, p. 307.
[237] Flandria Generosa (Continuatio Claromariscensis), MGH SS IX, p. 326.
[238] Flandria Generosa (Continuatio Claromariscensis) 1, MGH SS IX, p. 327.
[239] Duvivier, C. (1903) Actes et documents anciens interéssant la Belgique, Nouvelle série (Brussels), 46, p. 89.
[240] Chronicon Sancti Michaelis Luneburgensis, MGH SS XXIII, p. 396.
[241] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 508.
[242] Jordan, K., trans. Falla, P. S. (1986) Henry the Lion: a Biography (Clarendon Press, Oxford), pp. 65 and 95.
[243] Haverkamp, A. (1988) Medieval Germany 1056-1273 (Oxford University Press), p. 146.
[244] Annales Palidenses 18 1160, MGH SS XVI, p. 94.
[245] Haverkamp (1988), p. 223.
[246] Historiæ Anglicanæ Scriptores X (1652), Radulphus de Diceto, Ymagines Historiarum, col. 561.
[247] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1190, MGH SS XXIII, p. 863.
[248] Carutti (1888), Documenti del libro primi, XXXVI, p. 204.
[249] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 74, p. 32.9
He was Count of Savoy, Aosta and Moriana between 1148 and 1189.1,3,24

Family 1

Faidiva (?) de Toulouse d. c 1154

Family 2

Gertrude (?) de Flandres, Countess of Savoy b. 1135, d. a 1186

Family 3

Klementia (?) von Zähringen d. bt 1173 - 1175
Children

Family 4

Beatrix (?) de Mâcon b. 1160, d. b 8 Apr 1230
Child

Citations

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Beatrix (?) de Mâcon1,2

F, #5127, b. 1160, d. before 8 April 1230
FatherGérard I (?) Cte de Mâcon et de Vienne1,3,2,4 b. 1125, d. 15 Sep 1184
MotherGuigonne/Maurette (?) de Salins1,2,5 b. 1114, d. a 1218
ReferenceGAV22 EDV23
Last Edited17 Apr 2020
     Beatrix (?) de Mâcon was born in 1160 at Vienne, Isere, France.6 She married Umberto III (?) Comte de Savoie, Aosta and Moriana, son of Amadeo III (?) Count of Savoy, Aosta and Maurienne and Mathilda/Maud d'Albon Countess d'Albon-Viennois, circa 1175;
His 4th wife; Genealogy.EU (Ivrea 4 page) says m. ca 1175.)7,1,8,2,9
Beatrix (?) de Mâcon died before 8 April 1230.1,2,9
Beatrix (?) de Mâcon was buried after 8 April 1230 at Abbaye de Hautcombe, Saint-Pierre-de-Curtille, Departement de la Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1160, Vienne, Departement de l'Isère, Rhône-Alpes, France
     DEATH     8 Apr 1230 (aged 69–70), Champagne-Ardenne, France
     Family Members
     Parents
          Gérard de Vienne unknown–1184
     Spouse
          Humbert III de Savoie 1136–1189
     Siblings
          Gaucher de Vienne 1153–1219
          Ida de Macon 1162–1227
     Children
          Thomas I of Savoy 1180–1233
     BURIAL     Abbaye de Hautecombe, Saint-Pierre-de-Curtille, Departement de la Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France
     Created by: Todd Whitesides
     Added: 18 Mar 2013
     Find A Grave Memorial 106897858.10
     Beatrix (?) de Mâcon
Per Med Lands: "BEATRIX de Vienne (-8 Apr 1230). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to one of the unnamed sisters of "comitem Guilelmum Matisconensem sive Viennensem et Galterum de Salins et quemdam Gerardum et Stephanum Bisuntinensem electum" as mother of "comes Thomas de Sabaudia"[256]. The primary source which confirms her name has not been identified. "Thomas…Mauriannensis comes et marchio Italiæ" confirmed the donations made by "pater meus…[et] domini comitis Humberti…abavi mei" to the canons of Saint-Jean de Maurienne, with the advice of "B. matris mee et…tutore meo Bonifacio marchione Montisferrati", by charter dated 12 Jun 1189[257]. The necrology of Hautecombe records the death of "Beatrix comitissa" 8 Apr 1230[258]. m ([1175]) as his fourth wife, HUMBERT III Comte de Maurienne et de Savoie, son of AMEDEE III Comte de Maurienne et de Savoie & his wife Mathilde d'Albon [Viennois] (Avigliana 4 Aug 1136-Chambéry 4 Mar 1189, bur Abbaye de Hautecombe)."
Med Lands cites:
[256] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1190, MGH SS XXIII, p. 863.
[257] Carutti (1888), Documenti del libro primi, XXXVI, p. 204.
[258] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 74, p. 32.9


Beatrix (?) de Mâcon
Per Wikipedia:
     "Beatrice of Vienne (1160–1230) was a Countess of Savoy by marriage to Humbert III, Count of Savoy.
Biography
     "Beatrice was born in 1160 in Vienne, France, the second child of Géraud I of Mâcon (son of William III, Count of Burgundy) and Maurette de Salins. She was descended from the House of Mâcon and had seven siblings.
     "After the death of Humbert III, Count of Savoy's third wife, Clementia of Zähringen, in 1175, Humbert was inconsolable and refused to remarry; however, he had no male heir. His advisers persuaded him to wed Beatrice the following year.[1] Beatrice gave birth to Thomas, Count of Savoy in 1178.[2]
     "Beatrice died in 1230 in Champagne-et-Fontaine, Aquitaine, France.
References
1. Blanchard, Claudius (1874). Histoire de l'abbaye d'Hautecombe en Savoie avec pièces justificatives inédites [History of Hautecombe Abbey in Savoie with Unpublished Supporting Documents] (in French). Chambéry: F. Puthod. pp. 98–101. OCLC 29033857.
2. Boucharlat, Alain (1997). La Fontaine de Siloé [The Fountain of Siloé] (in French). p. 17. ISBN 978-2862532219."6



Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/1:122.2 Beatrix (?) de Mâcon was also known as Beatrix (?) de Vienne.10 GAV-22 EDV-23 GKJ-24.11

Family

Umberto III (?) Comte de Savoie, Aosta and Moriana b. bt 1 Aug 1136 - 4 Aug 1136, d. 4 Mar 1189
Child

Citations

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  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027292&tree=LEO
  13. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Savoy 1 page - The House of Savoy: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/savoy/savoy1.html
  14. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAVOY.htm#ThomasIdied1233B

Guillaume I (?) Count of Geneva, Lord of Faucigny

M, #5128, b. 1130, d. 25 July 1195
FatherAmedeo I (?) Comte de Genève1 b. c 1098, d. 26 Jun 1178
MotherMathilde de Cuiseaux Countess of Geneva2 b. c 1110, d. b 2 Jul 1137
ReferenceGAV22 EDV23
Last Edited17 Apr 2020
     Guillaume I (?) Count of Geneva, Lord of Faucigny was born in 1130. He was born in 1130 at Geneva, Switzerland (now).3 He married Agnes (?) de Savoie, daughter of Amadeo III (?) Count of Savoy, Aosta and Maurienne and Mathilda/Maud d'Albon Countess d'Albon-Viennois, before 1172;
His 1st wife.4,3,5 Guillaume I (?) Count of Geneva, Lord of Faucigny married Beatrix/Beatrice de Faucigny, daughter of Aimon I (?) Seigneur de Faucigny and Clemencia (?) of Berancon, after 1177;
His 2nd wife.6,5
Guillaume I (?) Count of Geneva, Lord of Faucigny died on 25 July 1195.3
     Guillaume I (?) Count of Geneva, Lord of Faucigny
Per Med Lands:
     "GUILLAUME [I] de Genève, son of AMEDEE [I] Comte de Genève & his first wife Mathilde de Cuiseaux ([1131/37]-25 Jul 1196). "Amedeus Gebennensis comes" donated property to the monastery of Abondance "in manu…consanguinei mei domini Bocardis ipsius ecclesiæ abbatis", for the souls of "patris mei Aymonis et matris meæ Itæ et Willelmi fratris mei et Matildis uxoris mæ" and for the protection of "filiorum meorum Wilelmi et Amedei", by charter dated 1153[70]. "Amedeus Gebennensium comes…et filius eius Guillelmus" restored the rights of the bishopric of Geneva, with the consent of "Amedeus quoque junior filius comitis", by undated charter[71]. Comte de Genève. "Willelmus…Gebennensis comes" founded the Chartreuse monstery of Pommiers, with the consent of "Humbertus filius meus…B. quoque uxor mea et filius meus Aymo quinquennis", by charter dated 1179[72]. A charter dated 1187 records an arbitration concerning the differences between "Wilielmum comitem Gebenn." and the bishop of Geneva[73]. "Wilermus Gebennensium et Valdensium comes" confirmed donations by "bonæ memorie predecessoris mei Aymonis [error for Amedei] comitis", with the consent of "Humbertus filius meus", by charter dated 1192, witnessed by "Turumbertus de Lucingio"[74].
     "m firstly AGNES de Savoie, daughter of AMEDEE III Comte de Savoie & his second wife Mathilde d'Albon (-before 1172). The death is recorded "Pridie Kal Aug" in 1194 of "dna Juliana abb.sa Sc.ti Andreæ", noting donations by "f.ris sui Humberti comiti Sabaudiæ" and "Agnetis sororis sue Gebennensis comitisse"[75].
     "m secondly BEATRIX de Faucigny, daughter of AIMON [I] Seigneur de Faucigny & his wife ---. "Willelmus…Gebennensis comes" founded the Chartreuse monstery of Pommiers, with the consent of "Humbertus filius meus…B. quoque uxor mea et filius meus Aymo quinquennis", by charter dated 1179[76]. Her parentage is confirmed by the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines which names her daughter "Margareta filia domni de Fusceneis de matre Guilelmi, filii Humberti comitis Gebenensis" as wife of "comitis Thome de Sabaudia"[77]. "
Med Lands cites:
[70] Bibliotheca Sebusiana, Centuria II, LII, p. 270.
[71] Spon (1730), Tome II, Preuves, X, p. 34.
[72] Besson (1759), Preuves, 36, p. 368.
[73] Spon (1730), Tome II, Preuves, XVIII, p. 46.
[74] Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 38, p. 16.
[75] Regesta comitum Sabaudiæ, CCCLXXXV, p. 142, quoting Cibrario Sepolcri dei principi di Savoia nella Sacra di S. Michele, Iscrizioni, p. 15.
[76] Besson (1759), Preuves, 36, p. 368.
[77] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1235, MGH SS XXIII, p. 938.5
GAV-22 EDV-23. Guillaume I (?) Count of Geneva, Lord of Faucigny was also known as William I (?) Count of Geneva.

Guillaume I (?) Count of Geneva, Lord of Faucigny
Per Borthwick email [1999]: "ES XI:158 gives Guillaume I (d.1195) two wives: (1) Agnes (d.<1172) dau. of Amadeus III count of Savoy and (2) Beatrice dau. of Aimon I de Faucigny. However ES XIV:70 does not list Beatrice amongst the children of Aimon I - indeed she is not mentioned in the Faucigny Tafel. Humbert was the only known child by (1) - Beatrice, Aimon, Amadeus and Guillaume II were by (2)."4

Family 1

Agnes (?) de Savoie b. c 1138, d. c 1172
Child

Family 2

Beatrix/Beatrice de Faucigny b. 1138
Children

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Amédée I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00030567&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde de Cuiseaux: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00030568&tree=LEO
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Savoy 1 page - The House of Savoy: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/savoy/savoy1.html
  4. [S1525] Richard Borthwick, "Borthwick 23 Jan 1999 email "Re: Agnes of Savoy"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to soc.genealogy.medieval, 23 Jan 1999. Hereinafter cited as "Borthwick email 23 Jan 1999."
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgkgenev.htm#GuillaumeIGenevadied1196B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S619] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 27 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 6, Ed. 1, Family #6-1556 (n.p.: Release date: August 22, 1996, unknown publish date).
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00030572&tree=LEO
  8. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgkgenev.htm#BeatrixMargueriteGeneveMThomasISavoie

Beatrix/Beatrice de Faucigny1

F, #5129, b. 1138
FatherAimon I (?) Seigneur de Faucigny2,3 b. 1108, d. b 29 Dec 1168
MotherClemencia (?) of Berancon3 b. 1112
ReferenceGAV22 EDV23
Last Edited16 May 2020
     Beatrix/Beatrice de Faucigny was born in 1138 at Faucigny, Haute-Savoie, France.4 She married Guillaume I (?) Count of Geneva, Lord of Faucigny, son of Amedeo I (?) Comte de Genève and Mathilde de Cuiseaux Countess of Geneva, after 1177;
His 2nd wife.4,5
     GAV-22 EDV-23.

Beatrix/Beatrice de Faucigny
(an unknown value.)4

Family

Guillaume I (?) Count of Geneva, Lord of Faucigny b. 1130, d. 25 Jul 1195
Children

Citations

  1. [S1525] Richard Borthwick, "Borthwick 23 Jan 1999 email "Re: Agnes of Savoy"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to soc.genealogy.medieval, 23 Jan 1999, ES XI:158 gives Guillaume I (d.1195) two wives: (1) Agnes (d.<1172) dau. of
    Amadeus III count of Savoy and (2) Beatrice dau. of Aimon I de Faucigny.
    However ES XIV:70 does not list Beatrice amongst the children of Aimon I -
    indeed she is not mentioned in the Faucigny Tafel. Humbert was the only
    known child by (1) - Beatrice, Aimon, Amadeus and Guillaume II were by (2).. Hereinafter cited as "Borthwick email 23 Jan 1999."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aymon I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00141249&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgkgenev.htm#AimonFaucignydied1179B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S619] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 27 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 6, Ed. 1, Family #6-1556 (n.p.: Release date: August 22, 1996, unknown publish date).
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgkgenev.htm#GuillaumeIGenevadied1196B
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00030572&tree=LEO
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgkgenev.htm#BeatrixMargueriteGeneveMThomasISavoie

Matilde (Mafalda, Maud) (?) Countess of Savoy, Queen of Portugal1,2,3,4

F, #5130, b. 1125, d. 4 November 1157
FatherAmadeo III (?) Count of Savoy, Aosta and Maurienne1,3,5,6,7 b. c 1092, d. 30 Aug 1148
MotherAdelaide (?); Genealogics says she was the dau. of his 2nd wife, Mathilde.3,6,8,7
ReferenceGAV23 EDV23
Last Edited21 May 2020
     Matilde (Mafalda, Maud) (?) Countess of Savoy, Queen of Portugal was born in 1125 at Chambèry, Savoy, France; Genealogy.EU, Wikipedia, Find A Grave and Med Lands say b. 1125; Genealolgics says b. est. 1126.3,2,6,9,10,4,7 She married Afonso I Henriques 'o Conquistador' (?) King of Portugal, son of Henri I (?) de Bourgogne, Count of Portugal and Teresa Alfonso (?) Infanta of Castile and Leon, in 1146.11,1,2,3,12,13,6,10
Matilde (Mafalda, Maud) (?) Countess of Savoy, Queen of Portugal died on 4 November 1157 at Coimbra, Coimbra, Portugal; Genealogy.EU says d. 4 Dec 1157; Genealolgics, Med Lands and Find A Grave say d. 4 Nov 1157; Wikipedia says d. 3 Dec. 1157.1,3,4,6,10,9
Matilde (Mafalda, Maud) (?) Countess of Savoy, Queen of Portugal was buried after 4 November 1157 at Monastery of Santa Cruz, Coimbra, Coimbra, Portugal,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1125
     DEATH     4 Nov 1157 (aged 31–32), Coimbra, Coimbra Municipality, Coimbra, Portugal
     In English she was known as Maud of Savoy. She was the second or third daughter of Amadeus III of Savoy, Count of Savoy and Maurienne, and his wife Mahaut of Albon. Maud was the first Queen of Portugal. She was Queen consort through her marriage, in 1146, to King Afonso I, the first ruler of Portugal as an independent kingdom. Their Children were:
** Henrique (died 1147)
** Mafalda, Princess of Portugal (1148-c.1160)
** Urraca, Princess of Portugal (1151–1188), married to King Ferdinand II of León.
** Sancha (1153-1159)
** Sancho I, King of Portugal (1154–1212), married to Dulce Berenguer of Barcelona, Princess of Aragon (daughter of Ramon Berenguer IV, Count of Barcelona and Queen Petronila of Aragon)
** Teresa, Princess of Portugal (1157–1218), married to Philip I of Flanders and next to Eudes III of Burgundy
** João (1156-1156)

     Walter Map tells a story that "the King of Portugal now living", almost certainly Afonso, had been convinced by evil counselors to murder his pregnant wife out of misplaced jealousy. However, there is no other authority for this account, and it is not generally accepted.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Amadeus de Savoy 1092–1148
     Spouse
          Afonso Henriques I 1110–1185
     Siblings
          Humbert III de Savoie 1136–1189
     Children
          Urraca Of Portugal 1151–1188
          Sancho I 1154–1212
          Teresa of Portugal 1157–1218
     BURIAL     Monastery of Santa Cruz, Coimbra, Coimbra Municipality, Coimbra, Portugal
     Created by: Mad
     Added: 27 Oct 2012
     Find A Grave Memorial 99677140.9
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von.
Page 110

[S00021] ~Gens Nostra .
1991 500.6

Matilde (Mafalda, Maud) (?) Countess of Savoy, Queen of Portugal
Per Genealogics: "Matilde was the second or third daughter of Amadeo III, comte de Savoie, and Mathilde d'Albon. In 1136 she married Afonso I 'o Conquistador', king of Portugal, son of Henri, count of Portugal, and Teresa of Castile and León, countess of Portugal. Her husband was the first ruler of Portugal as an independent kingdom. Matilde had seven children of whom only Urraca and Sancho I would have progeny. Matilde died in Coimbra on 4 November 1157. She was buried in the Abbey of Santz Cruz de Coimbra."6

Matilde (Mafalda, Maud) (?) Countess of Savoy, Queen of Portugal
Per Med Lands: "MATHILDE de Savoie ([1125][211]-Coimbra 4 Nov 1157, bur Coimbra, Church of the Cross). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "Aldefonsus rex Portugallie" as "filia comitis Sabaudie" but does not name her[212]. The De Rebus Hispaniæ of Rodericus Ximenes records the marriage of "Aldefonsum" and "Mafaldam filiam Comitis Maurienæ"[213]. The Chronicon Lusitanum records the marriage in 1183 (1145) of “Rex Donnus Alfonsus” and “Donnam Matildam, Comitis Amadæi de Moriana filiam”, adding that they had three sons and three daughters[214]. Brandaõ quotes a charter of the king dated 1146 which records “anno...quo duxeramt Mahaldam” and a charter dated Jul 1146 in which he records a donation “cum uxore mea Regina Dona Mafalda”[215]. It is likely that Mathilde was the daughter of Comte Amedée III's first marriage, although no proof has been found that this is correct. As she gave birth to her first child in 1147[216], it is improbable that she was the daughter of Comte Amedée III's marriage with Mathilde d'Albon for the same reasons of chronology as explained above. She was known as dona MAFALDA in Portugal. “Alfonsus, Portugaliæ rex, comitis Henrici et reginæ Theresiæ filius, magni quoque regis Alfonsi nepos…cum uxore mea regina donna Malfada, filia comitis Amedei de Moriana” confirmed donations to La Charité-sur-Loire by his father by charter dated Jul 1145[217]. The Chronicon Lusitanum records the death “III Non Dec” in 1196 (1158) of “Regina D. Matilda…Comitis Amadæi filia, uxor D. Alfonsi Portugallensium Regis”[218]. m ([Jan/Jun] 1146) AFONSO I King of Portugal, son of HENRIQUE Count of Portugal [Bourgogne-Comté] & his wife Infanta doña Teresa de Castilla y León, Queen of Portugal (Guimaraes 25 Jul 1110-Coimbra 6 Dec 1185, bur Coimbra, Church of the Cross)."
Med Lands cites:
[211] ES II 38 (Die Könige von Portugal I).
[212] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1144, MGH SS XXIII, p. 837.
[213] Roderici Toletani Archiepiscopi De Rebus Hispaniæ, Liber IX, VII, 5, RHGF XII, p. 382.
[214] Chronicon Lusitanum, España Sagrada, Tomo XIV, p. 426.
[215] Brandaõ, A. (1632) Terceira Parte da Monarchia Lusitana (Lisbon), Terceira Parte, Liber X, cap. XIX, p. 155 (second page).
[216] ES II 38.
[217] Lespinasse, R. de (ed.) (1887) Cartulaire du prieuré de la Charité-sur-Loire (Nevers), XLI, p. 109.
[218] Chronicon Lusitanum, España Sagrada, Tomo XIV, p. 428.10


Matilde (Mafalda, Maud) (?) Countess of Savoy, Queen of Portugal
Per Wikipedia:
     "Matilda of Savoy (French: Mathilde, Portuguese: Mafalda; c.? 1125[1]– 3 December 1157/58[2]) was Queen of Portugal. after her marriage to King Afonso Henriques, the first sovereign of Portugal, whom she married in 1146.
Origins
     "She was the second or third daughter of Amadeus III, Count of Savoy, Piedmont and Maurienne,[1] and Mahaut of Albon[1] (the sister of Guigues IV of Albon, "le Dauphin"). One of her aunts, Adelaide of Maurienne,was queen consort as the wife of King Louis VI of France, and one of her great-granduncles was Pope Callixtus II whose papacy lasted from 1119 until 1124, the year of his death.[3]
Possible reasons for her marriage
     "Her father had participated in the Second Crusade and this could have been one of the reasons why she was chosen as the consort of Portugal's first monarch. Such an alliance would contribute to expelling the Moors from Portuguese territory and would also show the new King's independence by selecting a wife outside the sphere of influence of the Kingdom of León.[4] It is also possible that he was not able to select one of the infantas from the neighboring Iberian kingdoms due to reasons of consanguinity.[5] The wedding could have also been suggested by Guido de Vico, the papal representative in the Iberian Peninsula who had been one of the witnesses of the Treaty of Zamora in 1143.[4]
Life as queen consort
     "Matilda first appears with her husband on 23 May 1146 confirming a donation that had been made previously by her mother-in-law, Teresa of León, to the Order of Cluny.[6] She was very devoted to the Cistercian Order and founded the Monasterio of Costa in Guimarães and a hospital/hostel for pilgrims, the poor and the sick in Canaveses.[6] She stipulated in her will that this hospital was to be kept always clean, that it should be furnished with good and clean beds and that, if any of those lodged at the institution should die there, three masses were to be celebrated for the salvation of their souls.[6]
     "Walter Map, in his work, De nugis curialium, tells a story that "the King of Portugal now living", almost certainly Afonso, had been convinced by evil counselors to murder his pregnant wife out of misplaced jealousy. However, there is no other authority for this account, and it is not generally accepted.[7]
Death and burial
     "Queen Mafalda died in Coimbra on 3 December 1157 or 1158 at an unknown age and was buried at the Monastery of Santa Cruz where her husband, who survived her by more than twenty-seven years, was later interred. She was survived by six of her seven children, only three of whom, infantes Sancho, Urraca and Theresa, would reach adulthood.[11]
Marriage and issue
     "Although the Annales D. Alfonsi Portugallensium Regis, record that the wedding of Alfonso and Mafalda was celebrated in 1145, it was not until a year later, in May 1146, when they both appear in royal charters. Historian José Mattoso refers to another source, Noticia sobre a Conquista de Santarém (News on the Conquest of Santarém), which states that the city was taken on 15 May 1147, less than a year after their marriage. Since at that time no wedding ceremony could be performed during Lent, Mattoso suggests that the marriage could have taken place in March or April of 1146, possibly on Easter Sunday which fell on 31 March of that year.[12] The groom was almost thirty-eight years old and the bride was about twenty-one years old. The children of this marriage were:
** Henry (5 March 1147[13][14][15]-June 1155),[15][14] named after his paternal grandfather, Henry, he died when he was only eight years old.[15] Despite being just a child he represented his father at a council in Toledo at the age of three.[15] He died in 1155, shortly after the birth of his brother Sancho.[15]
** Urraca (1148[15]–1211[16]), married King Ferdinand II of León and was the mother of King Alfonso IX. The marriage was subsequently annulled in 1171 or 1172 and she retired in Zamora, one of the villas that she had received as part of her arras, and later at the Monastery of Santa María in Wamba, Valladolid where she was buried;[17]
** Theresa (1151[15] –1218[5]), Countess consort of Flanders due to her marriage to Philip I[18] and Duchess consort of Burgundy through her second marriage to Odo III;[16]
** Mafalda (1153[15][14]-after 1162). In January 1160, her father and Ramón Berenguer IV, Count of Barcelona, negotiated the marriage of Mafalda to Alfonso, future King Alfonso II of Aragon[13][19] who at that time was three or four years old. After the death of Ramón Berenguer IV in the summer of 1162, King Ferdinand II of León convinced his widow, Queen Petronilla, to cancel the infante's wedding plans with Mafalda and for Alfonso to marry instead Sancha, daughter Alfonso VII of León and his second wife Queen Richeza of Poland.[20] Mafalda died in her childhood at an unrecorded date.
** Sancho, the future King Sancho I of Portugal (11 November 1154[14]–26 March 1211). He was baptised with the name of Martin for having been born on the saint's feast day;[15]
** John (1156–25 August 1164);[2] and
** Sancha (1157–14 February 1166/67), born ten days before the death of her mother, Sancha died before reaching the age of ten.[21][14] on the 14th of February according to the death registry at the Monastery of Santa Cruz (Coimbra) where she was buried.[13]

Notes
Mattoso refers to 1157 as the year of her death.[8] Portuguese historian La Figanière mentions the same day but a year later based on a document which proves that the queen was still alive in 1158.[9] The document, dated 1158 and kept at the Torre do Tombo, mentioned by La Figanière refers to the donation of Atouguia by King Afonso and his wife to Guilherme de cornibus where Afonso confirms cum uxore mea Regina domna Mahalda filia comitis Amadei (sic) et de Moriana ("with my wife Queen Mafalda, daughter the Count of Savoy and Maurienne") .[10]
References
1. Rodrigues Oliveira 2010, p. 67.
2. Mattoso 2014, p. 227.
3. Rodrigues Oliveira 2010, p. 69.
4. Rodrigues Oliveira 2010, pp. 67–68.
5. Rodrigues Oliveira 2010, p. 80.
6. Rodrigues Oliveira 2010, p. 75.
7. Mattoso 2014, pp. 224–225.
8. Mattoso 2014, p. 223.
9. Rodrigues Oliveira 2010, p. 612, n. 33.
10. La Figanière 1859, p. 231.
11. Rodrigues Oliveira 2010, p. 77.
12. Mattoso 2014, p. 220.
13. Caetano de Souza 1735, p. 60.
14. Rodrigues Oliveira 2010, p. 71.
15. Mattoso 2014, p. 226.
16. Rodrigues Oliveira 2010, p. 79.
17. Arco y Garay 1954, p. 168.
18. Mattoso 2014, pp. 372-373.
19. Rodrigues Oliveira 2010, p. 78.
20. Mattoso 2014, pp. 287-288 and 290.
21. Mattoso 2014, pp. 227 and 383.
Bibliography
** Arco y Garay, Ricardo del (1954). Sepulcros de la Casa Real de Castilla. Madrid: Instituto Jerónimo Zurita. Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Científicas. OCLC 11366237.
** Caetano de Souza, Antonio (1735). Historia Genealógica de la Real Casa Portuguesa (PDF) (in Portuguese). Vol. I. Lisbon: Lisboa Occidental, na oficina de Joseph Antonio da Sylva. ISBN 978-84-8109-908-9.
** La Friganiére, Frederico Francisco de (1859). Memorias da rainhas de Portugal (in Portuguese). Lisbon: Typographia Universal. OCLC 680459800.
** Mattoso, José (2014). D. Afonso Henriques (in Portuguese). Lisbon: Temas e Debates. ISBN 978-972-759-911-0.
** Rodrigues Oliveira, Ana (2010). Rainhas medievais de Portugal. Dezassete mulheres, duas dinastias, quatro séculos de História (in Portuguese). Lisbon: A esfera dos livros. ISBN 978-989-626-261-7."4 GAV-23 EDV-23 GKJ-24. She was Queen of Portugal between 1146 and 1158.4

Citations

  1. [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe (NY: Barnes & Noble Books, 2002), Table 92: Portugal - Early Kings (House of Burgundy). Hereinafter cited as Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 47 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet47.html
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  4. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilda_of_Savoy,_Queen_of_Portugal. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Amadeo III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027371&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Matilde de Savoie: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020557&tree=LEO
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