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     Gwendamode de Bagé married Hugues de Traves Seigneur de Traves.^3,1

     GAV-27.

     GAV-28.

     Hugues de Traves Seigneur de Traves married Gwendamode de Bagé, daughter of Oldaric de Bagé.^1,2
Hugues de Traves Seigneur de Traves was born circa 1015.¹
Hugues de Traves Seigneur de Traves died after 1073.³
     Hugues de Traves Seigneur de Traves lived at an unknown place ; Per Med Lands: " HUGUES de Traves (-after 1073). Guillaume states that “Hugues seigneur de Trave” founded the church of Traves Saint-Pierre & Saint-Marcel by charter dated 1073, but does not cite the corresponding source[1060]."
Med Lands cites: [1060] Guillaume (1757), Tome I, p. 93.³

; Per Genealogics: "Hugues was lord of Traves in the county of Burgundy (Franche-Comté). He had a brother Gérard, dean of the church of Saint-Paul de Besançon. In 1073 he founded a church on his lands in the names of Saint-Pierre et Saint-Marcel, with the agreement of Hugues II de Montfaucon, archbishop of Besançon, capital of the Franche-Comté. Hugues and his wife Gwendamode, daughter of Oldaric de Bagé, seigneur de Bagé-le-Châtel, had four sons of whom Etienne/Guy would have progeny."¹

; Per Wikipedia article "Liste des seigneurs de Traves":
     "Hugues Ier de Traves, (? - après 1073), seigneur de Traves. Il a pour frère Gérard, doyen de l'église saint-Paul de Besançon. Il fonde en 1073, sur ses terres, une église sous le vocable de Saint-Pierre et Saint-Marcel avec l'accord d'Hugues II de Montfaucon, archevêque de Besançon. Il donne cette église, sise au Château de Traves aux moines de l'abbaye Saint-Marcel-lès-Chalon vers 1073-10871
Mariage et succession :
     "Il épouse Gwendamode, fille d'Oldaric de Bagé, seigneur de Bâgé-le-Châtel (01) de qui il a :
Sources (See original Wikipedia article for links to some of these sources)
** Jean Baptiste Guillaume, Histoire généalogique des sires de Salins au comté de Bourgogne, C.F. Mourgeon, 1757 (lire en ligne [archive]), p. 92 à 109
** Louis Moreri, Le grand dictionnaire historique ou Le melange curieux de l'Histoire sacrée et profane, libraires associés Le Mercier, Desaint et Saillant, Jean-Thomas Herissant, Boudet, Vincent, Le Prieur, 1759 (lire en ligne [archive]), p. 656
** François-Ignace Dunod de Charnage, Mémoires pour servir à l'histoire du comté de Bourgogne, contenant l'idée générale de la noblesse et le nobiliaire du dit comté, J.-B. Charmet, 1740 (lire en ligne [archive]), p. 232 à 234
** Léopold Niepce, Histoire de Sennecey, de ses seigneurs, du canton de Sennecey-le-grand et de ses dix-huit communes, Dejussieu, 1866 (lire en ligne [archive]), p. 316 à 317
** Médiéval Généalogie : [1] [archive]
Notes et références
1. Cartulaire de l'Abbaye Saint-Marcel-lès-Chalon, Charte XXXI, vers 1073-87.
2. Cité par Albert d'Aix au siège de Siège de Nicée : "Robertus filius Gerardi…Milo…cognomine Louez…Walterus de Domedart et eius filius Bernardus…Ruthardus filius Godefridi…Rodulfus ditissimus copiarum…Gisilbertus de Treva (Traves) unus de principibus Burgundiæ…Oliverus de castro Jussi…Achar de Montmerla…Walterus de Verveis, Arnulfus de Tyr, Johannes de Namecca…"
3. Charte du 28 octobre 1157 : "Comes Stephanus...et fratrem meum comitem Gerardum" termine une dispute avec l'abbaye de Cherlieu, avec le consentement de "matris nostræ...comitis Willelmi patris nostri et avi nostri domini Theobaldi de Treva", Médiéval Généalogie, seigneurs de Traves, Thibaut (lire en ligne [archive]).
4. Le nécrologe de l'abbaye de la Charité enregistre le décès de "Alaida domina de Treva fundatrix huius domus", Médiéval Généalogie, seigneurs de Traves, Thibaut (lire en ligne [archive])
5. "Renardus de Choiseul domicellus (le seigneur Renard de Choiseul) filius domni Roberti de Choiseul (fils du seigneur Robert de Choiseul) domini de Trove (seigneur de Traves) et Margareta eius uxor domicella (son épouse Marguerite), filia quondam domini Henrici domini Branciduni (fille du seigneur Henri de Brancion)", Médiéval Généalogie, Raynard de Choiseul (lire en ligne [archive])."⁴ GAV-27.

     Giselbert de Traves died after 1097.¹
      ; Per Med Lands: " GISELBERT de Traves (-after 1097). Albert of Aix names "…Robertus filius Gerardi…Milo…cognomine Louez…Walterus de Domedart et eius filius Bernardus…Ruthardus filius Godefridi…Rodulfus ditissimus copiarum…Gisilbertus de Treva [Traves] unus de principibus Burgundiæ…Oliverus de castro Jussi…Achar de Montmerla…Walterus de Verveis, Arnulfus de Tyr, Johannes de Namecca…" among those who took part in the siege of Nikaia, dated to mid-1097 from the context[1061]."
Med Lands cites: [1061] Albert of Aix (RHC), Liber II, Cap. XXIII, p. 316.¹

     Renaud de Traves connétable de Bourgogne-Comté married Elizabeth (?) de Salins, daughter of Humbert III (?) Sire de Salins,
; Per Med Lands: "RENAUD de Traves (-23 Sep, after 1157). Constable of the county of Bourgogne. The necrology of Besançon Saint-Paul records the death “IX Kal Oct” of “Rainaldus miles de Treva” and his wife’s donation “apud Salinas”[1073]. m ELISABETH [de Salins, daughter of HUMBERT [III] Seigneur de Salins & his wife ---]. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified. “Uxor eius...Elisabeth” donated property “apud Salinas” to Besançon Saint-Paul, for the soul of “Renaldi constabulis, fratris domini Petri Sancti Stephani decani”, with the consent of “fratris sui Gualcherii et filiorum suorum Rodulphi...et Petri...et Gualcherii”, by undated charter[1074]."
Med Lands cites: [1074] Guillaume (1757), Tome I, Preuves, p. 42.^1,2,3 Renaud de Traves connétable de Bourgogne-Comté was born between 1100 and 1130.¹
      ; Per Wikipedia article "Liste des seigneurs de Traves":
     "Apparaît un Renaud de Traves vers la moitié du xiie siècle, né approximativement entre 1100 et 1130, aussi connétable de Bourgogne-Comté, au statut familial imprécis, et qui épouserait Elisabeth de Salins, fille d'Humbert III († vers 1133) d'où Nicole de Traves ou de Salins, femme de Simon II (vers 1145-1208) sire de Broyes et de Commercy, à qui elle apporte des fiefs jurassiens : Mont Rivel (à Équevillon avec Saint-Germain et Champagnole), Château-Villain (à Sirod) et Chaux-des-Crotenay. Nicole de Traves/de Salins et Simon II de Commercy ont pour arrière-petite-fille Laure de Commercy, 3° épouse de Jean l'Antique et ancêtre des Chalon-Arlay.
     "Renaud serait-il un fils de Thibaud de Traves ou du moins un membre de la première famille de Traves ci-dessus ?
Sources (See original Wikipedia article for links to some of these sources)
** Jean Baptiste Guillaume, Histoire généalogique des sires de Salins au comté de Bourgogne, C.F. Mourgeon, 1757 (lire en ligne [archive]), p. 92 à 109
** Louis Moreri, Le grand dictionnaire historique ou Le melange curieux de l'Histoire sacrée et profane, libraires associés Le Mercier, Desaint et Saillant, Jean-Thomas Herissant, Boudet, Vincent, Le Prieur, 1759 (lire en ligne [archive]), p. 656
** François-Ignace Dunod de Charnage, Mémoires pour servir à l'histoire du comté de Bourgogne, contenant l'idée générale de la noblesse et le nobiliaire du dit comté, J.-B. Charmet, 1740 (lire en ligne [archive]), p. 232 à 234
** Léopold Niepce, Histoire de Sennecey, de ses seigneurs, du canton de Sennecey-le-grand et de ses dix-huit communes, Dejussieu, 1866 (lire en ligne [archive]), p. 316 à 317
** Médiéval Généalogie : [1] [archive]
Notes et références
1. Cartulaire de l'Abbaye Saint-Marcel-lès-Chalon, Charte XXXI, vers 1073-87.
2. Cité par Albert d'Aix au siège de Siège de Nicée : "Robertus filius Gerardi…Milo…cognomine Louez…Walterus de Domedart et eius filius Bernardus…Ruthardus filius Godefridi…Rodulfus ditissimus copiarum…Gisilbertus de Treva (Traves) unus de principibus Burgundiæ…Oliverus de castro Jussi…Achar de Montmerla…Walterus de Verveis, Arnulfus de Tyr, Johannes de Namecca…"
3. Charte du 28 octobre 1157 : "Comes Stephanus...et fratrem meum comitem Gerardum" termine une dispute avec l'abbaye de Cherlieu, avec le consentement de "matris nostræ...comitis Willelmi patris nostri et avi nostri domini Theobaldi de Treva", Médiéval Généalogie, seigneurs de Traves, Thibaut (lire en ligne [archive]).
4. Le nécrologe de l'abbaye de la Charité enregistre le décès de "Alaida domina de Treva fundatrix huius domus", Médiéval Généalogie, seigneurs de Traves, Thibaut (lire en ligne [archive])
5. "Renardus de Choiseul domicellus (le seigneur Renard de Choiseul) filius domni Roberti de Choiseul (fils du seigneur Robert de Choiseul) domini de Trove (seigneur de Traves) et Margareta eius uxor domicella (son épouse Marguerite), filia quondam domini Henrici domini Branciduni (fille du seigneur Henri de Brancion)", Médiéval Généalogie, Raynard de Choiseul (lire en ligne [archive])."¹

     Humbert de Rougemont died;
Per Genealogics: d. young.¹
     ;      NB Med Lands shows Thiébaut/Thibaut I as have only one son, Humbert I, and that Thibaut II was the son of Humbert I.
     Genealogics shows Thiébaut/Thibaut I as having two sons - Thibaut II and Humbert - and that Humber d. young.
     For the moment, I have chosen to follow Med Lands' lineage. G. A, Vaut.^2,3,4

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XV 153.¹

     Alix de Traves married Thiébaut/Thibaut II de Rougemont, son of Humbert de Rougemont.^1,2

      ; Per Med Lands: "ALIX de Traves . Guillaume names “Alix de Trave fille de Thibaud II Sire de Trave et sœur de Poncette de Trave, femme de Guillaume Comte de Mâcon” as wife of Thibaut [II] de Rougemont but does not cite the primary source which confirms this information[1069]. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified. m THIBAUT [II] de Rougemont Vicomte de Besançon, son of HUMBERT [I] Seigneur de Rougemont & his wife --- (-after 1213).]"
Med Lands cites: [1069] Guillaume (1757), Tome I, p. 115.¹

      ; Per Med Lands: "Comte Guillaume [III] had one illegitimate child by Mistress (1): MALASPINA (-[1170] or after). "Willelmus Matisconensis comes et Burgundie" donated "abbatiam de Balma" to Cluny by charter dated 14 Jun 1147, confirmed by "Poncia comitissa uxore mea et filiis meis Stephano et Gerardo", witnessed by "…Malaspina filius comitis…"[185]. "W[illelmus] comes Burgundie" addressed a letter to many nobles including "Malespine filio meo" relating to the donation of the abbey of Balma to Cluny, dated 1147 after 23 Aug[186]. "Girardus comes Vienne et Matisconi" donated property "in pago Bisumtinensi in burgo Ledonis" to Cluny "pro salute anime…genitoris mei Guilelmi comitis et matrie mee" by charter dated [1170] subscribed by "…Mala Spina frater meus…"[187]. His absence from the list of "filiis meis" in the first of these charters suggests that Malaspina was an illegitimate son of Comte Guillaume, although this is not explicitly stated in the sources identified."
Med Lands cites:

     Isabelle (?) bâtarde de Savoie married Pierre de Salinento.²

     Alix (?) de Bourgogne died after 1260.¹
      ; Per Med Lands: "ALIX de Bourgogne (-after 1260). Nun at Fontevraud. “La comtesse Alix” granted revenue from “Dole” to “ses filles Marguerite et Alix religieuses de Fontevrault” by charter dated 1260[195]."
Med Lands cites: [195] Inventaire sommaire - Doubs série B (1883), B. 343, p. 143.¹

     Richard (?) of Cornwall was born in July 1246 at Wellingford, Oxfordshire, England.¹
Richard (?) of Cornwall died in August 1246 at Wellingford, Oxfordshire, England.¹
     Reference: Genealogics cites:

     Unknown (?) married Aimon I (?) Comte de Genève, son of Gerold I (?) Comte de Genève and Thietburga (?) of Savoy,
;
His 2nd wife?
Per Med Lands. "[m secondly ---. The chronology of this family suggests that Comte Amédée [I]¹ may have been his father’s son by an otherwise unrecorded second marriage.]"
      ; Per Med Lands: "AMEDEE [I] ([1100/10]-28 Jun 1178). "Aymo comes Gebennensis et Amadeus filius eius" renounced rights to certain property in favour of the church of Saint-Martin by undated charter[48].¹

     (?) de Glane married Louis (?) Seigneur de Faucigny, son of Ermenrad (?),
;      His 2nd wife.^1,2
     GAV-24.

     Gottfried Graf von Hüneburg. Landgraf in Alsace died circa 1175; Med Lands says d. 1175 of after.¹
      ; Per Med Lands: "GOTTFRIED (-1175 or after). "Matheus Lotharingorum dux et marchio" donated property "loco predium de Wulvelingen" to Kloster Stürtzelbronn, with the consent of "coniugis mee Berthe et Balduini fratris mei", for the soul of "progenitoris mei Symonis", by charter dated 13 Jan 1143, which names "Theodericus…comes…cum uxore sua Adelheide et filio suo Gotefrido"[260]. Graf von Hüneburg. Landgraf in Alsace."
Med Lands cites: [260] Speyer Urkundenbuch 83, p. 91.¹

     Sophie (?) married Godfried von Heinsberg, son of Goswin III von Heinsberg Herr von Heinsberg, Heer van Valkenburg and Adelheid von Sommerschenburg.^1,2

Sophie (?) died before 1202.²
      ; Per Med Lands: " GOTTFRIED (-before 1185). Alexander Bishop of Liège confirmed the donation made by "domnus Gozwinus secundus Henesbergensis et uxor eius Aleidis" to the church at their castle, with the consent of "filiis eius Philippo…archiepiscopo, Gozwino, Godefrido", by charter dated 13 Mar 1165 (but redated to [1167/68])[321]. Reinald Archbishop of Köln issued a charter dated 22 Feb 1166 relating to the division of their inheritance between "domna Elisabeth de Randenrothe…[et] sororem eius comitissam de Mere domnam…Hildegundem", with the consent of "filiorum ac filiarum domne Elisabeth", witnessed by "…Gozwinus senior de Heimesberg et filius eius Godefridus…"[322]. Herr von Heinsberg 1169. Philipp Archbishop of Köln confirmed the foundation of a church "in castro suo Henesbergis" by "Oda matrona venerabilis memorie consensu filiorum suorum Gerardi et Goswini", and the donation by "predictus…Gozwinus post obitum matris" with the advice of "uxore sua Aleide…matrona consensu filiorum suorum Gozwini, Herimanni, Godefridi, Philippi", by charter dated 1170[323]. Philipp Archbishop of Köln confirmed the foundation of the church at Heinsberg by "pater carnalis Gozwinus…secundus de Heinsberg et…mater mea Adeleidis", with the consent of "fratribus meis Gozwino, Herimanno, Godofrido, sororibusque Uda, Methide, Salome", and various donations including the donation made by "Hezelo…et Gertrudis soror mea ex patre", by charter dated 1180[324]. m (2 Feb [1171/72]) SOPHIE, daughter of --- (-[1185]). Philipp Archbishop of Köln confirmed the donation of "villam Holtheim" made by "domna Sophya de Heymisberg et neptis nostra filia eius…nepoti nostro Gozwino de Falkenburg" by charter dated to [1183/91][325]. Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 1202 under which her daughter "Aleydis domina de Heinsberg" donated property "Brunsrode et Huntheym" to the church of St Marie, Heinsberg, naming "pie memorie mater mea domina Sophia"[326]."
Med Lands cites:

Reference: Genealogics cites: "Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 6:23a.²

; Per Med Lands: "m (2 Feb [1171/72]) SOPHIE, daughter of --- (-[1185]). Philipp Archbishop of Köln confirmed the donation of "villam Holtheim" made by "domna Sophya de Heymisberg et neptis nostra filia eius…nepoti nostro Gozwino de Falkenburg" by charter dated to [1183/91][325]. Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 1202 under which her daughter "Aleydis domina de Heinsberg" donated property "Brunsrode et Huntheym" to the church of St Marie, Heinsberg, naming "pie memorie mater mea domina Sophia"[326]."
Med Lands cites:

; Genealogy.EU says the Sophie von Looz m. both Gottfried von Heinsberg and Walter IV von Berthout. However both Genealogics and Med Lands says that there were two Sophies.^2,1,3,4

     Baudouin Cabun married Marie d'Orbais, daughter of Enguerrand I d'Orbais and Juliane de Duras-Looz, before 1231
;
Her 2nd husband.^1,2
     Baudouin Cabun was also known as Baudouin le Karron.²

     Enguerrand I d'Orbais married Juliane de Duras-Looz.²

     Reference: Genealogics cites: Enguerrand I d'Orbais was living in 1155.¹

     Juliane de Duras-Looz married Enguerrand I d'Orbais, son of Bernard d'Orbais and Ide de Coucy.¹

Juliane de Duras-Looz died in 1164.¹
     Reference: Genealogics cites:

     Godfried (?) Seigneur de Perweis, Grimberghe et Ninove was born in 1220.¹ He married Alix van Grimbergen Heiress of Grimberghe and Ninove before 16 March 1227.²

Godfried (?) Seigneur de Perweis, Grimberghe et Ninove died after 3 July 1257; Genealogics says d. 1256/57; Med Lands says d. aft 3 Jul 1257.¹
      ; Per Med Lands: "GODEFROI de Perwez (-1257 after 3 Jul). "Godefridus dominus de Perves ducis Lotharingiæ fratres filius" confirmed a donation to Argenton by charter dated 1230[172]. Heer van Perwez. “Godefridus dominus de Pereweis et Ingelramnus frater eius” sold property "in parochia de Mense in loco Voerst", which they acquired from "uxorem nostrarum", to the church of Grimbergen, with the consent of "Aalicia uxore filii [word inserted incorrectly[173]] mei Godefridi et Agnete uxore fratris mei Ingelramni", by charter dated 1236[174]. "…Godefridus de Perweys et frater eius Ingelramus…" witnessed the charter dated 9 Nov 1236 under which "Godefridus de Lovanio frater domini Henrici…ducis Lotharingiæ et Brabantiæ" confirmed a settlement with his brother regarding their paternal inheritance[175]. “Godefridus dominus de Pereweis et Ingelrammus frater eius” donated “site in parochia de Mense in loco...Voerst” to Grimbergen, with the consent of “Aalicia uxore mei Godefridi et Agnete uxore mei Ingelrammi”, by charter dated [15/16] Mar 1236 (O.S.)[176]. "Godefridus dominus de Perves et Ingelramus frater eius" sold property to the church of Grimbergen, in the presence of "Alicia uxore mei Godefridi et Agnete uxore mei Ingelrami", by charter dated mid-Mar 1238[177]. Counsellor of Brabant 1253. A charter dated 1253 records that "Godefridus de Lovanio Henrici ducis Lotharingia et Brabantia patruus" confirmed an agreement between the convent of Villers and "consanguineorum suorum Godefridi domini de Perwes et Willelmi primogeniti ipsius et Alidis uxoris dicti domini de Perwes felicis recordationis"[178]. m (before [15/16] Mar 1237) ALIX van Grimbergen, daughter of GERHARD [IV] Heer van Grimbergen & his wife Agnes van Beveren (-after Jun 1247). The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "la tierce fille monsigneur Raoul de Couchi...Ada" married “monsigneur Thierri de Bevre chastelain de Dikemue, qui ot de lui 2 fius et 3 filles...L’une des filles Thierri signour de Bevre fu mariee a signour de Grinberghes, ki ot de li une fille qui fu hoirs de sa terre. Si l’ot a feme Godefrois li sires de Pierewes”[179]. "Agnes domina de Grimbergis…et Alicia major natu filia mea" returned property "de Robrouc" to Ninove, in accordance with the last wishes of "Gerardus dominus de Grimbergis quondam maritus meus", by charter dated Feb 1229[180]. “Godefridus dominus de Pereweis et Ingelrammus frater eius” donated “site in parochia de Mense in loco...Voerst” to Grimbergen, with the consent of “Aalicia uxore mei Godefridi et Agnete uxore mei Ingelrammi”, by charter dated [15/16] Mar 1236 (O.S.)[181]. Heiress of Grimberghe and Ninove. A charter dated 1253 records that "Godefridus de Lovanio Henrici ducis Lotharingia et Brabantia patruus" confirmed an agreement between the convent of Villers and "consanguineorum suorum Godefridi domini de Perwes et Willelmi primogeniti ipsius et Alidis uxoris dicti domini de Perwes felicis recordationis"[182]."
Med Lands cites:

Reference: Genealogics cites: Kwartieren van Hendrik III en Willem de Rijke van Nassau, Geldrop, 1965, Roo van Alderwerelt, G. F. de. 327.¹ Godfried (?) Seigneur de Perweis, Grimberghe et Ninove was also known as Godefroi de Perwez Heer van Perwez.³

     Alix van Grimbergen Heiress of Grimberghe and Ninove married Godfried (?) Seigneur de Perweis, Grimberghe et Ninove, son of William (?) of Louvaine, Lord of Perwez and Ruysbroek and Marie d'Orbais, before 16 March 1227.¹

Alix van Grimbergen Heiress of Grimberghe and Ninove died after June 1247; Med Lands says d. aft 6/1247; Genealogics says d. 1250.^1,2
      ; Per Med Lands: "ALIX van Grimbergen (-after Jun 1247). The Chronicon Hanoniense of Baudouin d’Avesnes records that "la tierce fille monsigneur Raoul de Couchi...Ada" married “monsigneur Thierri de Bevre chastelain de Dikemue, qui ot de lui 2 fius et 3 filles...L’une des filles Thierri signour de Bevre fu mariee a signour de Grinberghes, ki ot de li une fille qui fu hoirs de sa terre. Si l’ot a feme Godefrois li sires de Pierewes”[1311]. "Agnes domina de Grimbergis…et Alicia major natu filia mea" returned property "de Robrouc" to Ninove, in accordance with the last wishes of "Gerardus dominus de Grimbergis quondam maritus meus", by charter dated Feb 1229[1312]. Heiress of Grimberghe and Ninove. “Godefridus dominus de Pereweis et Ingelrammus frater eius” donated “site in parochia de Mense in loco...Voerst” to Grimbergen, with the consent of “Aalicia uxore mei Godefridi et Agnete uxore mei Ingelrammi”, by charter dated [15/16] Mar 1236 (O.S.)[1313]. Heiress of Grimberghe and Ninove. A charter dated 1253 records that "Godefridus de Lovanio Henrici ducis Lotharingia et Brabantia patruus" confirmed an agreement between the convent of Villers and "consanguineorum suorum Godefridi domini de Perwes et Willelmi primogeniti ipsius et Alidis uxoris dicti domini de Perwes felicis recordationis"[1314]. m (before [15/16] Mar 1237) as his first wife, GODEFROI de Perwez, son of GUILLAUME de Louvain Heer van Perwez & his wife Marie d´Orbais (-1257 after 3 Jul). Heer van Perwez 1247."
Med Lands cites:

Reference: Genealogics cites: Alix van Grimbergen Heiress of Grimberghe and Ninove was also known as Adelheid|Alix Berthout Heiress of Grimberghe.²

     Otto (?) died before 1016.¹
     GAV-30.

; Per Med Lands:
     "GISELBERT, son of [Comte OTTO & his wife ---] (-[1044/46]). His relationship to the Looz family is confirmed by the Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium which names "Baldricus secundus.¹

     Arnaud (?) Comte de Hesbaie died after 1016.¹
      ; Per Med Lands: "ARNAUD (-after 1016). “Gislebertus et Arnulfus comites fratres mei, Wigerus advocatus, Godefridus de Florines...” witnessed the charter dated 1015 of Baldric Bishop of Liège relating to Hanret and Celles[772]. "Baldricus…Leodiensis ecclesiæ sacerdos" founded the abbey of Liège Saint-Jacques, in the presence of "fratribus meis Gisleberto…comite de Los et Arnulfo", by charter dated 1016, witnessed by "…Arnulfus comes frater comitis Gisleberti"[773]. same person as...? ARNAUD (-before 24 Jan 1040). Vanderkindere suggests this co-identity[774]. Vanderkindere also suggests that Arnaud was the first husband of Ermengarde [Ermentrude], later wife of Gothelon Comte de Montaigu Comte [de Hesbaie], but if that is correct he would have been considerably older than his wife. Heinrich III King of Germany granted "comitatum Arnoldi comitis nomine Haspinga in pago Haspingowi" to the church of Liège by charter dated 24 Jan 1040[775]."
Med Lands cites:

     Baldric II (?) Bishop of Utrecht was born in 897 at Oldenzaal, Netherlands (now).²
Baldric II (?) Bishop of Utrecht was buried after 20 December 975 at St. Salvator - Cathedral of Saint-Martin, Utrecht, Netherlands.^1,2
Baldric II (?) Bishop of Utrecht died on 27 December 975 at Utrecht, Netherlands (now).^1,2
      ; Per Wikipedia:
     "Balderic of Cleves (Oldenzaal, 897 – Utrecht, 27 December 975) was a long-reigning and influential Bishop of Utrecht from 918 to 975.
     "Although his father is only known from one document associating him with Betuwe, and his grave in his son's bishopric in Utrecht, the necrologium of Egmond in Utrecht calls his father count of Cleves (comes clivensis) and the necrologium of the Plechelmusbasilica in Oldenzaal, founded by Balderic, calls Balderic himself "Balderic of Cleves", "de clivis". Jongbloed (2006) argues that although the style of the title seems to be from a later generation, it should not be ignored. He also points to other evidence that the family had associations with the area, which was then referred to as the Duffelgau or Tubelgau.
     "Balderic was a cousin of Duke Gilbert of Lorraine[citation needed] and the uncle of Bishop Balderic of Liège. He was the son of Count Ricfried in the Betuwe, who expelled the Vikings from Utrecht, after which Balderic, who like his immediate predecessors had resided in Deventer, was able to move the bishopric back to Utrecht.
     "In Utrecht, Balderic repaired the forerunner of the Cathedral of Utrecht, St. Martin, and rebuilt the St. Salvator Church, which had been destroyed by the Normans, as well as the convent school that was attached to the Cathedral Chapter. Under his influence, Utrecht became the most important city in the northern Netherlands and he expanded the power of the local diocese so that it could maintain itself between the surrounding counties. This was achieved through his support of the German king, who granted him possessions in return.
     "Balderic was very successful in this policy: in 923 he formed close relations with the German King Henry I (919-936), who in return entrusted Balderic with the education of his four-year-old son Bruno, future archbishop of Cologne.
     "Because of this, Balderic also kept close contact with Henry's other son and successor, King Otto I (936-973). He belonged to the Lorrainian lords that sided with Otto in his struggle with his sons in 953. In exchange, Otto granted Balderic the right of coinage in Utrecht, as well as the trade settlement Muiden including the important toll. Furthermore, he acquired hunting rights in Drenthe, and several possessions in the Gau (country subdivision) Lek and IJssel.
     "Balderic collected relic for the churches in Utrecht. These included the relics of saint Odulf for the St. Salvator Church and relics of saints Agnes and Pontian for the St. Martin's Church. In 954 he had the relics of Plechelm transferred Church that he had rebuilt in Oldenzaal.
     "Balderic was the first bishop of Utrecht to be buried in the Cathedral of Saint-Martin. In 1481, an important part of his remains from Utrecht were moved to the St. Plechelmusbasilica in Oldenzaal and buried there, probably as a tribute to the founder of its chapter. The tombstone of that year is preserved and built into the west wall of the south aisle of the St. Plechelmusbasiliek.
References
** Jongbloed, Hein H., (2006), "Immed “von Kleve” (um 950) – Das erste Klevische Grafenhaus (ca. 885-ca. 1015) als Vorstufe des geldrischen Fürstentums", Annalen des Historischen Vereins für den Niederrhein, Heft 209 [1]
** Fritz Weigle (1953), "Balderich", Neue Deutsche Biographie (NDB) (in German), 1, Berlin: Duncker & Humblot, p. 550
** Thijm Alberdingk (1875), "Balderich", Allgemeine Deutsche Biographie (ADB) (in German), 2, Leipzig: Duncker & Humblot, pp. 3–."²

; Per Med Lands: "BALDRIC [I] (-27 Dec 975, bur Utrecht St Salvator). The Memorial of "Ricfridus hoc nomine Dodo vocatus…comes" names "presul Baldricus…preses Rodolphus…rector Yrimfredus pariterque comes Nevelongus" as his children and "Herisindæ" as their mother[663]. Bishop of Utrecht 917. The Chronologia Johannes de Beke records that "Baldricus…filius…Rixfridi comitis Clivensis" was elected Bishop of Utrecht after the death of bishop Radbod, which it dates to 917[664]. The Kronik van Arent toe Bocop records that "Baldericus van Clewe", who was installed as fifteenth bishop of Utrecht in 927, was "een broeder van den grawe van Clewe"[665]. The Chronologia Johannes de Beke records the death "977 VI Id Jan" of Bishop Baldric[666]. "
Med Lands cites: Baldric II (?) Bishop of Utrecht was also known as Balderic (?) of Utrecht.² Baldric II (?) Bishop of Utrecht was also known as Balderic (?) of Cleves.² He was Bishop of Utrecht between 918 and 975 at Utrecht, Netherlands (now).^2,1

     Gottschalk (?) von Looz died after 1138.¹
      ; Per Med Lands: "GOTTSCHALK (-after 1138). A charter dated to [1138/44] records the ratification of the exchange of property between "Godescalcus…frater comitis Gerhardi de Lo" and the church of Rees, witnessed by "…Otto comes, Adolfus comes, Kristian de Wieflinchovin, Engelbertus de Hornin…"[853]. "
Med Lands cites: [853] Codex Diplomaticus Lossensis, 84, p. 45.¹

      ; Per Med Lands: " [JEAN de Looz . His parentage is confirmed only by the spurious charter dated 23 Jun 1180 (probably written in [1720], as noted above) under which his son "Robertus de Ghoer miles, dominus in Bierlos et Castri Stephani in Corswarem" donated revenue from property which supplemented the donation made by "Arnoldo comite de Los et Aleide avis meis", for the souls of "patris mei Johannis de Los domini de Ghoer, matris mee Sophie…"[854]. Seigneur de Ghoer. m SOPHIE, daughter of ---. Her marriage is confirmed only by the spurious charter dated 23 Jun 1180 (probably written in [1720], as noted above) under which her son "Robertus de Ghoer miles, dominus in Bierlos et Castri Stephani in Corswarem" donated revenue from property for the souls of "patris mei Johannis de Los domini de Ghoer, matris mee Sophie…"[855]."
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     Arnaud (?) was born between 1147 and 1155.¹
Arnaud (?) died in 1159.¹
      ; Per Med Lands: "ARNAUD . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. 1147-1155, 1159."¹

     Hugues (?) died after 1175.¹
      ; Per Med Lands: " HUGUES (-after 1175). “Gerardus...comes de Los dominaque matre mea Agneta comitissa filioque eius Hugone fratre meo” granted privileges to “ville nostre de Brustemie”, with the consent of “Rogero...de Curtereces et sorore eius Yda”, by charter dated 1175[876]. The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium records the death in [1172] (which must be incorrectly dated in light of the charter dated 1175 quoted above) of "Hugo…etate quidam inferior… frater eiusdem Gerardi [=Gerardus comes Lonensis", and refers to his surviving wife without giving her name[877]. m --- (-after 1175). The name of the wife of Hugues is not known. The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium records the death in [1172] (which must be incorrectly dated in light of the charter dated 1175 quoted above) of "Hugo…etate quidam inferior… frater eiusdem Gerardi [=Gerardus comes Lonensis", and refers to his surviving wife without giving her name[878]."
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