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     Fulk/Foulques (?) Bishop of Mantes/Amiens died in 1058; Leo van de Pas says d. after 1077.^1,3,2
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: IV 657.²

     GAV-26, EDV-27.

     Matilda Lupus married Harold de Sudeley de Ewyas of Sudeley & Toddington, co. Glouc., son of Ralph "the Timid" de Sudeley Earl of Hereford and Getha (Gethe, Gytha) (?) of Buckingham.¹

     GAV-24 EDV-25.

     GAV-25 EDV-26.

     John de Mantes de Sudeley Baron Chandos married Grace de Tracie, daughter of William de Tracy, before 1130.^3,4,2,5

      ; JOHN de SUDELEY; living 1130; m Grace, dau of William de Tracy (d c 1136), illegitimate s of HENRY I, late in whose reign he died.²

     Grace de Tracie married John de Mantes de Sudeley Baron Chandos, son of Harold de Sudeley de Ewyas of Sudeley & Toddington, co. Glouc. and Matilda Lupus, before 1130.^1,5,3,2

      ; Grace, dau of William de Tracy (d c 1136), illegitimate s of HENRY I.³

     Ralph de Sudeley married Emma de Beauchamp, daughter of Walter I de Beauchamp and Emmeline d'Abitot.^1,2
Ralph de Sudeley was born before 1135.²
Ralph de Sudeley died before 29 September 1192; Burke's Peerage (Sudeley Family Page) says "d by autumn 1192."^1,3

      ; William, had the manor of Toddington, Glos, made over to him by his bro, also lands there in exchange for Burton Dassett, Warwicks, c 1139-48; presented the manor of Thaneworth, another gift of his bro, to the Abbey of Gloucester; held one (kt's?) fee of his bro 1166; had, with a yr s (Alard, Rector Toddington): Henry.³
William de Tracie Baron Brandninch was living between 1139 and 1166.³

     Emma de Beauchamp married Ralph de Sudeley, son of John de Mantes de Sudeley Baron Chandos and Grace de Tracie.^1,2

Emma de Beauchamp died before 29 September 1192.¹

     Otuel de Sudeley of Great Dasset, co. Warwick married Margaret de Cauz.^1,3

Otuel de Sudeley of Great Dasset, co. Warwick was buried circa 1198 at Winchcomb Abbey, England.¹
Otuel de Sudeley of Great Dasset, co. Warwick died in 1198.^1,3

     Ralph de Sudeley married Isabel de Stafford.^1,3

Ralph de Sudeley died before 26 February 1222.^1,3

     Isabel de Stafford married Ralph de Sudeley, son of Ralph de Sudeley and Emma de Beauchamp.^1,3

Isabel de Stafford died after 1242.²

     Bertram de Verdon married Maud de Ferrers, daughter of Robert de Ferrers 1st Earl of Derby and Hawise de Vitré.¹

Bertram de Verdon died circa 1192.¹
      ; Sheriff of Leicestershire.¹

     Henry Fitz Gerold married Ermitrude (Ermentrude) de Ferrieres, daughter of Walkelin de Ferrers Lord of Egginton and Radborne and Goda de Tosny,
; her 2nd husband.¹
Henry Fitz Gerold died circa 1231.¹

     Bertha Roberts was born circa 1040; per Racines et Histoire: "originaire de Laigle, Gostenois."² She married Henri de Ferrières seigneur de Ferrières et de Chambrais, son of Walkelin (Walcheline, Gauchelin) de Ferrières, circa 1061.^1,3,2

Bertha Roberts died at Darnley, Derbyshire, England.²
     GAV-26 EDV-26 GKJ-27.

     Hugh de Ferrières Lord of Lechlade married Margaret de Say, daughter of Hugh de Say and Mabel de Marmion, circa 1197
;
Her 1st husband.^3,1,2,4,5
Hugh de Ferrières Lord of Lechlade died circa 1204.^1,2
     Hugh de Ferrières Lord of Lechlade was also known as Hugh de Ferrers of Lechlade.⁵

; Per Med Lands:
     "MARGERY de Say ([1190/96]-1230). The primary source which confirms her first marriage has not yet been identified. Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166 (but added later), record that "Robertus de Mortuo mari" held 23 knights’ fees "in honore Castelli Ricardi" with "filia Hugonis de Say hærede Osberti filii Hugonis" in Herefordshire[497]. The sheriff of Essex was ordered to cause "Margaret de Say, who was the wife of Robert de Mortimer" to have "the rightful dower of the lands formerly of Robert her former husband", dated to [Jul] 1219[498]. "Margareta de Say filia Hugonis de Sai, quondam uxor Roberti de Mortuomari" quitclaimed to the monks of Worcester Cathedral priory certain services due to her from their manor of Boraston by charter dated 1219[499]. Henry III King of England consented to the marriage of "Margaretam que fuit uxor Roberti de Mortuo Mari" and "Willelmus de Stutevill" dated 23 Nov 1219[500]. "William de Stuteville" paid a fine to marry "Margaret who was the wife of Robert de Mortimer", dated to [Nov] 1219[501]. The Annals of Worcester record the death in 1230 of “Margerie de Say”[502]. Inquisitiones dated 20 May 1259 record that "William de Scoteville" held the manors of Wychbold and Cotheridge in Worcestershire from "Margery his wife" and name "Sir Hugh de Mortuo Mari son of the said Margery" as her next heir and of full age[503].
     "m firstly (1197 or after) HUGH de Ferrers of Lechlade, son of WALKELIN de Ferrers & his wife --- (-1204).
     "m secondly ([6 May 1209/Jun 1211]) ROBERT de Mortimer, son of ROGER [III] de Mortimer & his [second] wife Isabel de Ferrers (-before [Jul] 1219).
     "m thirdly (Royal licence 23 Nov 1219) WILLIAM de Stuteville, son of WILLIAM de Stuteville & his wife --- (-before 20 May 1259)."
Med Lands cites:

     Margaret de Say was born between 1190 and 1196.⁸ She married Hugh de Ferrières Lord of Lechlade, son of Walkelin de Ferrières Seigneur de Ferrieres-Saint-Hilaire et de Chambrai, Lord of Oackham and Lechlade, circa 1197
;
Her 1st husband.^1,2,4,6,8 Margaret de Say married Robert de Mortimer of Burford, son of Robert de Mortimer of Woodham, Mortimer, co. Essex, in 1210
;
Her 2nd husband. Per Med Lands m. "[6 May 1209/Jun 1211]"^1,9,2,6,8 Margaret de Say married Sir William de Stuteville Knt., of Cowesby, Yorks. and Gressenhall, Norfolk, son of Osmond de Stuteville of Cowesby, Yorks. and Gressenhall, Norfolk. and Isabel fitz William fitz Roger, after 5 November 1219
;
Her 3rd husband.^{9,2,10,11,12,13,6,8}
Margaret de Say died before September 1242; Genealogics says d. bef 1243; Racine et Histoire says d ca 1242.^9,4,6
     Reference: Genealogics cites:

; Per Med Lands:
     "MARGERY de Say ([1190/96]-1230). The primary source which confirms her first marriage has not yet been identified. Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166 (but added later), record that "Robertus de Mortuo mari" held 23 knights’ fees "in honore Castelli Ricardi" with "filia Hugonis de Say hærede Osberti filii Hugonis" in Herefordshire[497]. The sheriff of Essex was ordered to cause "Margaret de Say, who was the wife of Robert de Mortimer" to have "the rightful dower of the lands formerly of Robert her former husband", dated to [Jul] 1219[498]. "Margareta de Say filia Hugonis de Sai, quondam uxor Roberti de Mortuomari" quitclaimed to the monks of Worcester Cathedral priory certain services due to her from their manor of Boraston by charter dated 1219[499]. Henry III King of England consented to the marriage of "Margaretam que fuit uxor Roberti de Mortuo Mari" and "Willelmus de Stutevill" dated 23 Nov 1219[500]. "William de Stuteville" paid a fine to marry "Margaret who was the wife of Robert de Mortimer", dated to [Nov] 1219[501]. The Annals of Worcester record the death in 1230 of “Margerie de Say”[502]. Inquisitiones dated 20 May 1259 record that "William de Scoteville" held the manors of Wychbold and Cotheridge in Worcestershire from "Margery his wife" and name "Sir Hugh de Mortuo Mari son of the said Margery" as her next heir and of full age[503].
     "m firstly (1197 or after) HUGH de Ferrers of Lechlade, son of WALKELIN de Ferrers & his wife --- (-1204).
     "m secondly ([6 May 1209/Jun 1211]) ROBERT de Mortimer, son of ROGER [III] de Mortimer & his [second] wife Isabel de Ferrers (-before [Jul] 1219).
     "m thirdly (Royal licence 23 Nov 1219) WILLIAM de Stuteville, son of WILLIAM de Stuteville & his wife --- (-before 20 May 1259)."
Med Lands cites:

; Per Med Lands:
     "WILLIAM de Stuteville of Gressenhall, Elsing, East Lexham, Weasenham and Cowesby, Norfolk (-before 20 May 1259). "William de Stuteville" paid a fine to marry "Margaret who was the wife of Robert de Mortimer", dated to [Nov] 1219[850]. Inquisitions dated 20 May 1259 record that "William de Scoteville" held the manors of Wychbold and Cotheridge in Worcestershire from "Margery his wife" and name "Sir Hugh de Mortuo Mari son of the said Margery" as her next heir and of full age[851].
     "m (Royal licence 23 Nov 1219) as her third husband, MARGERY de Say, widow firstly of HUGH de Ferrers of Lechlade and secondly of ROBERT de Mortimer, daughter of HUGH [II] de Say of Richard's Castle & his wife Mabel --- ([1190/96]-1230). The primary source which confirms her first marriage has not yet been identified. Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166 (but added later), record that "Robertus de Mortuo mari" held 23 knights’ fees "in honore Castelli Ricardi" with "filia Hugonis de Say hærede Osberti filii Hugonis" in Herefordshire[852]. Henry III King of England consented to the marriage of "Margaretam que fuit uxor Roberti de Mortuo Mari" and "Willelmus de Stutevill" dated 23 Nov 1219[853]. "William de Stuteville" paid a fine to marry "Margaret who was the wife of Robert de Mortimer", dated to [Nov] 1219[854]. The Annals of Worcester record the death in 1230 of “Margerie de Say”[855]. Inquisitions dated 20 May 1259 record that "William de Scoteville" held the manors of Wychbold and Cotheridge in Worcestershire from "Margery his wife" and name "Sir Hugh de Mortuo Mari son of the said Margery" as her next heir and of full age[856]."
Med Lands cites:

; Per Bevans on Soc Gen Med: "WILLIAM de Stuteville of Cowesby, Yorks. and Gressenhall, Norfolk. As William, son of Osmund de Stuteville he confirmed to Fountains abbey the gift of half a carucate of land in Newsham in the parish of Kirby Wiske. In 1216 he occurs as a knight of the earl of Warenne. On 5 Nov 1219 the king gave to him in marriage Margery (also known as Margaret), daughter and heir of Hugh de Say, and widow of Hugh de Ferrers d.s.p. 1204 and Robert de Mortimer d 1219, obtaining in her right the honour of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, which he held until his death in 1259. On 8 May 1229 he was granted a yearly fair and a weekly market at his manor at Gressenhall. In 1232 as one of the barons of the Marches, he delivered up Osmund his son as hostage for his fidelity. In Jan 1256-7 he confirmed to Castle Acre priory all the gifts and confirmations of Osmund de Stuteville, his father, and Isabel his mother and of Wimer, Roger his son and all his ancestors. The writs for his inquisitions post mortem are dated 20 May 1259 when Sir Hugh de Mortimer, son of Margery, was found to be heir to property in Shropshire and Worcestershire which William held by courtesy of England.
[Sources: Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8 p.35-37, 143 ; Sanders, 'English Baronies: a study of their origin and descent 1086-1327', p.75 ; CIPM v.1 no.439 ; CIPM v.2 no.133 ; CP V :539; Blomefield, County of Norfolk, v.8 p.201-203; v.8 p.512]"^12,11

     Robert de Mortimer of Burford married Margaret de Say, daughter of Hugh de Say and Mabel de Marmion, in 1210
;
Her 2nd husband. Per Med Lands m. "[6 May 1209/Jun 1211]"^1,2,3,5,6
Robert de Mortimer of Burford died before 5 July 1219.²
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "MARGERY de Say ([1190/96]-1230). The primary source which confirms her first marriage has not yet been identified. Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166 (but added later), record that "Robertus de Mortuo mari" held 23 knights’ fees "in honore Castelli Ricardi" with "filia Hugonis de Say hærede Osberti filii Hugonis" in Herefordshire[497]. The sheriff of Essex was ordered to cause "Margaret de Say, who was the wife of Robert de Mortimer" to have "the rightful dower of the lands formerly of Robert her former husband", dated to [Jul] 1219[498]. "Margareta de Say filia Hugonis de Sai, quondam uxor Roberti de Mortuomari" quitclaimed to the monks of Worcester Cathedral priory certain services due to her from their manor of Boraston by charter dated 1219[499]. Henry III King of England consented to the marriage of "Margaretam que fuit uxor Roberti de Mortuo Mari" and "Willelmus de Stutevill" dated 23 Nov 1219[500]. "William de Stuteville" paid a fine to marry "Margaret who was the wife of Robert de Mortimer", dated to [Nov] 1219[501]. The Annals of Worcester record the death in 1230 of “Margerie de Say”[502]. Inquisitiones dated 20 May 1259 record that "William de Scoteville" held the manors of Wychbold and Cotheridge in Worcestershire from "Margery his wife" and name "Sir Hugh de Mortuo Mari son of the said Margery" as her next heir and of full age[503].
     "m firstly (1197 or after) HUGH de Ferrers of Lechlade, son of WALKELIN de Ferrers & his wife --- (-1204).
     "m secondly ([6 May 1209/Jun 1211]) ROBERT de Mortimer, son of ROGER [III] de Mortimer & his [second] wife Isabel de Ferrers (-before [Jul] 1219).
     "m thirdly (Royal licence 23 Nov 1219) WILLIAM de Stuteville, son of WILLIAM de Stuteville & his wife --- (-before 20 May 1259)."
Med Lands cites:

     Grundella de Ferrieres married Sir Robert Blount.³

     John de Oddingsele married Cecily de Ferrers, daughter of Sir Hugh de Ferrers of Bugbrooke and (?) de Mohaut,
; her 1st husband.¹
John de Oddingsele died before 10 August 1257.¹

     Eugenulf de Ferrieres died; dvp.⁴ He was born say 1072.²

     Amicia de Ferrieres married Nigel de Albine, son of William d'Aubigny seigneur of Aubigny and (?) de Plessis.^1,2
Amicia de Ferrieres was born say 1074.¹
     Amicia de Ferrieres was also known as Amicie de Ferrers.²