Person Page - 1499

     Eleanor de Fiennes died; dsp.² She married Sir Richard de Vernon Knt., of Haddon, Derbyshire, son of Sir Richard de Vernon Sr. and Isabel de Harcla,
; his 1st wife.²
     Eleanor de Fiennes was also known as Alianore de Frenes.²

; per Richardson email: [quote] The following below is the information I currently have in my files on Sir Giles de Fiennes, father of Eleanor de Fiennes, wife of Richard de Vernon. The information is basically a very rough draft. If anyone has additional information, I'd appreciate it if they would post it here on the newsgroup. Thanks! Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Website: www.royalancestry.net
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1. GILES DE FIENNES, Knt., of White Waltham, Berkshire, and, in right of his wife, of Old Court (in Wartling) and Marsham (in Fairlight), Sussex, younger son. He married SIBYL FILLIOL, daughter and heiress of William Filliol, of Old Court (in Wartling), Sussex, by Cecily, sister of Aylmer de Chaunceux. They had one son, John, and one daughter, Eleanor (wife of Richard de Vernon). In 1270-1272 he and his older brother, William de Fiennes, went on crusade in the Holy Land under the leadership of Lord Edward. He was granted free warren in all his demesne lands in Old Court (in Wartling) and Marsham (in Fairlight), Sussex in 1290. He was summoned to serve against the Scots in 1297 and 1301. In 1314 he and his wife, Sibyl, granted the reversion of the manor of Old Court (in Wartling), Sussex to William de Echingham.

Clutterbuck, Hist. & Antiq. of Hertford 2 (1821): 9-11 (Fiennes pedigree). G. Lipscomb, Hist. & Antiq. of the County of Buckingham 2 (1847): 469-472 (omits this generation). C.Ch.R. 2 (1898): 234, 256, 267, 345. VCH Buckingham 4 (1927): 90. VCH Sussex 9 (1937): 139, 177. G.J. Brault, Rolls of Arms Edward I (1272-1307) 2 (1997): 164 (arms of Giles de Fiennes: Azure, three lions rampant or, a label gules). [end quote]¹

     Sir Giles de Fiennes Knt., of White Waltham, Berkshire married Sibyl Filliol, daughter of William Filliol of Old Court (in Wartling), Sussex and Cecily de Chaunceux,
; per Richardson email: [quote] ...He married SIBYL FILLIOL, daughter and heiress of William Filliol, of Old Court (in Wartling), Sussex, by Cecily, sister of Aylmer de Chaunceux. They had one son, John, and one daughter, Eleanor (wife of Richard de Vernon). [end quote]³
Sir Giles de Fiennes Knt., of White Waltham, Berkshire died before 1293; Richardson says he was living in 1314.^2,1
      ; per Richardson email: [quote] The following below is the information I currently have in my files on Sir Giles de Fiennes, father of Eleanor de Fiennes, wife of Richard de Vernon. The information is basically a very rough draft. If anyone has additional information, I'd appreciate it if they would post it here on the newsgroup. Thanks! Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Website: www.royalancestry.net
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1. GILES DE FIENNES, Knt., of White Waltham, Berkshire, and, in right of his wife, of Old Court (in Wartling) and Marsham (in Fairlight), Sussex, younger son. He married SIBYL FILLIOL, daughter and heiress of William Filliol, of Old Court (in Wartling), Sussex, by Cecily, sister of Aylmer de Chaunceux. They had one son, John, and one daughter, Eleanor (wife of Richard de Vernon). In 1270-1272 he and his older brother, William de Fiennes, went on crusade in the Holy Land under the leadership of Lord Edward. He was granted free warren in all his demesne lands in Old Court (in Wartling) and Marsham (in Fairlight), Sussex in 1290. He was summoned to serve against the Scots in 1297 and 1301. In 1314 he and his wife, Sibyl, granted the reversion of the manor of Old Court (in Wartling), Sussex to William de Echingham.

Clutterbuck, Hist. & Antiq. of Hertford 2 (1821): 9-11 (Fiennes pedigree). G. Lipscomb, Hist. & Antiq. of the County of Buckingham 2 (1847): 469-472 (omits this generation). C.Ch.R. 2 (1898): 234, 256, 267, 345. VCH Buckingham 4 (1927): 90. VCH Sussex 9 (1937): 139, 177. G.J. Brault, Rolls of Arms Edward I (1272-1307) 2 (1997): 164 (arms of Giles de Fiennes: Azure, three lions rampant or, a label gules). [end quote]¹

; Leo van de Pas cites: An account of the families of Lennard and Barrett, 1908., Thomas Barrett-Lennard, Reference: 152.² Sir Giles de Fiennes Knt., of White Waltham, Berkshire was also known as Giles de Frenes.⁴ Sir Giles de Fiennes Knt., of White Waltham, Berkshire was also known as Sir Giles de Fienes.² GAV-23.

     Sir Richard Stafford of Pype, Staffordshire married Isabella de Vernon, daughter of Sir Richard de Vernon Knt., of Haddon, Derbyshire and Matilda/Maud de Camville, in 1337.^1,2

     Sir Richard Stafford of Pype, Staffordshire lived at Pype, Staffordshire, England.¹

     Margaret de Stopford married Sir William de Vernon, son of Sir Richard de Vernon Knt., of Haddon, Derbyshire and Matilda/Maud de Camville.^1,2,3

      ;      Dear John, just one small correction to the Vernon descent, and that is the identification of William de Vernon's wife as Margaret de Stopford. Despite her continuous presence in Burke's etc, she appears to result from confusion when an earlier antiquary was (understandably) unaware that Stopford is the same name -formerly, anyway- as Stockport, and she is the same woman who appears earlier in the Vernon line. (This was touched on in the list in Feb 1999.) There is minimal evidence of William (who died much earlier than 1378, he was dead by 1346- see VCH Bucks sub Pitchcott) and I know nothing that mentions him with his wife, but there is a possibility that she is named in connection with an obscure Cumbrian manor- Rockcliff(e) north of Carlisle. A paper on that place in the Cumberland and Westmorland Antiquarian and Archaeological Society Transactions, New Series vol.24, pp.57-65 quotes a final concord of January 1347/8 that mentions the widow of Sir Richard de Vernon (William's grandfather) as having a third of the manor in dower; and a third of the remainder was held by "John de Molyneux, chivaler, and Clementia, his wife", also in dower. The author (THB Graham) speculates that Clementia was probably the widow of the successor of Richard, son of Richard de Vernon- ie, William. Maud Camville, widow of the younger Richard, was also then alive but claimed dower in other manors. The wife and widow of the elder Richard was Isabella, daughter of Michael de Hartcla (Harclay) and sister of the ill-fated Andrew Harclay who was briefly earl of Carlisle, before being executed in 1322/3. This has proofs in the cited VCH Bucks and, especially, the mammoth article "Maud's Meaburn and Newby: de Veteripont, le Franceys and de Vernon" by rev FW Ragg in the aforementioned CWAAS Transactions- NS vol.12 (1912) with corrections in NS vol.16 pp.167-8. This assiduously and objectively works through the le Franceys/de Vernon succession and adds much to the history of the Vernons' northern lands. The new ODNB adds that Sir Michael de Harclay's wife was "Joan, daughter of William Fitzjohn, a Yorkshire landowner".
     Hope this is all useful and can lead to further discoveries- thanks for the good work so far- Matthew.⁴

Reference: van de pas cites: Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938. 2475.³ GAV-20 GKJ-20.

     Emma Lewis was born on 13 January 1843.¹
Emma Lewis died on 31 May 1855 at age 12.¹

     GAV-21 GKJ-21.

     William Spernore married Alice Sulney, daughter of Sir Alfred Sulney Knt., of Newton Solney,
;
Her 3rd husband.^3,2
William Spernore died on 10 October 1401.²
     GKJ-18.

Reference: Genealogics cites: William Spernore was also known as William Sperno of Spernore/Spernall, Warwickshire.² William Spernore was also known as William Durvassal of Spernore/Spernall, Warwickshire.²

     Sir Richard Vernon of Haddon, Derbys married Margaret Dymoke, daughter of Sir Robert Dymoke of Kyme & Scrivelsby, Knight Banneret and Jane Cresnore.¹

Sir Richard Vernon of Haddon, Derbys died in 1517.¹
      ; Richard (Sir), of Haddon; m Margaret, dau of Sir Robert Dymoke, and d 1517, leaving: George (Sir.)¹

     Margaret Dymoke married Sir Richard Vernon of Haddon, Derbys, son of Sir Henry Vernon Knt., KB, PC, Lord of Haddon and Lady Anne Talbot.¹

     Sir Robert Dymoke of Kyme & Scrivelsby, Knight Banneret married Anne (Jane?) Sparrow, daughter of John Sparrow of London.^5,2
Sir Robert Dymoke of Kyme & Scrivelsby, Knight Banneret married Jane Cresnore, daughter of Alexander Cresnor.^5,2
Sir Robert Dymoke of Kyme & Scrivelsby, Knight Banneret was born in 1461.^5,2
Sir Robert Dymoke of Kyme & Scrivelsby, Knight Banneret died on 13 April 1544.²
     Sir Robert Dymoke of Kyme & Scrivelsby, Knight Banneret lived at Scrivelsby, Lincolnshire, England.⁶

; van de Pas cites: 1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H. R. H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: I 192
2. Burke's Landed Gentry, Reference: 672.²

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     Margaret Tailboys married Sir George Vernon, son of Sir Richard Vernon of Haddon, Derbys and Margaret Dymoke.¹

      ; dau by his 2nd w of Sir George Talboys, of Kyme, Lincs, de jure 9th Lord (Baron) Kyme (notional cr 24 June 1295) according to later doctrine, and sis of 1st Lord (Baron) Tailboys.¹

     Gilbert Tailboys of Kyme, 1st Lord Tailboys married Elizabeth Blount, daughter of Sir John Blount and Catherine Pershall, circa 1519.^7,2

Gilbert Tailboys of Kyme, 1st Lord Tailboys died on 15 April 1530.^7,2
      ; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, London, 1936, Doubleday, H. A. & Lorde de Walden, Reference: XII/1 602.² He was 1st and last Lord (Baron) Tailboys of the 1529 cr in 1529.⁷

     Dorothy Vernon married Sir John Manners of Haddon Hall, Derbys, son of Thomas Manners KG, PC, 12th Lord de Ros of Helmsley, 1st Earl of Rutland and Eleanor Paston.^1,3,4

Dorothy Vernon died on 24 June 1584.²

     Sir John Manners of Haddon Hall, Derbys married Dorothy Vernon, daughter of Sir George Vernon and Margaret Tailboys.^1,3,6
Sir John Manners of Haddon Hall, Derbys was born before 1535.³
Sir John Manners of Haddon Hall, Derbys died on 4 June 1611.^2,3
     Reference: van de Pas cites: Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938. Page 2149.³

; John (Sir), of Haddon Hall, Derbys; m Dorothy (d 24 June 1584), dau of Sir George Vernon (see VERNON, B) whereby Haddon Hall came to the Manners family; d 4 June 1611, having had an est son: George (Sir), of Haddon Hall.²

Sir John Manners of Haddon Hall, Derbys lived at Haddon Hall, Derbyshire, England.²

; Dorothy; m Sir John Manners, yr s of 1st Earl of Rutland (see RUTLAND, D), taking Haddon to her husb's family.¹

     Agnes Vernon was buried at Ashbourne, Derbyshire.³ She married John Cokayne Esq., of Ashbourne Hall, Warwickshire, son of Sir John Cokayne Knt., of Ashbourne, Derbyshire and Isabel Shirley.^1,4,2

      ; 1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Agnes Vernon
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Burial:     Ashbourne, co. Derbys.[7]

Spouse:     John Cokayne
Birth:     ca 1422[7]
Death:     ca 1505[4],[7]
Father:     Sir John Cokayne (-1438)
Mother:     Isabel Shirley (->1459)

Children:     Thomas (-1488)
Roger
Beatrice

Ravilious cites:
4. Robert W. Barnes, "British Roots of Maryland Families," Baltimore:
Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1999.
7. Douglas Richardson, "Plantagenet," Jan 20, 2003,
email royalancestry@msn.com.³

; ; m (Sir?) John Cokayne, of Ashbourne Hall (see CULLEN OF ASHBOURNE, B.)¹

     John Cokayne Esq., of Ashbourne Hall, Warwickshire married Agnes Vernon, daughter of Sir Richard Vernon Knt., of Haddon, Derbyshire and Benedicta Ludlow of Hodnet and Stokesay.^1,5,2
John Cokayne Esq., of Ashbourne Hall, Warwickshire was born circa 1422; Richardson says "aged 16 in 1438."^3,2
John Cokayne Esq., of Ashbourne Hall, Warwickshire died in 1504.^3,2
     John Cokayne Esq., of Ashbourne Hall, Warwickshire lived at Ashbourne Hall, Ashburne, Derbyshire, England.⁵

; 1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Agnes Vernon
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Burial:     Ashbourne, co. Derbys.[7]

Spouse:     John Cokayne
Birth:     ca 1422[7]
Death:     ca 1505[4],[7]
Father:     Sir John Cokayne (-1438)
Mother:     Isabel Shirley (->1459)

Children:     Thomas (-1488)
Roger
Beatrice

Ravilious cites:
4. Robert W. Barnes, "British Roots of Maryland Families," Baltimore:
Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1999.
7. Douglas Richardson, "Plantagenet," Jan 20, 2003,
email royalancestry@msn.com.³

; John, who m. Anne, dau. of Sir Richard Vernon, and was ancestor of the Cokaines, of Ashburne, co. Derby, extinct in the male line, 1684.⁵

     Thomas Vernon of Stokesay married Anne Ludlow, daughter of Sir John Ludlow of Stokesay and Hodnet, Salop and Elizabeth Grey.^1,2

      ; van de Pas cites: Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938, Reference: Page 2196.²

; Thomas; m Anne, er dau and coheir of Sir John Ludlow, of Stokesay and Hodnet, Salop, by Elizabeth, alleged by her ggs Henry (see below) to be dau of Margaret Audley/Tuchet (dau of 5th Lord (Baron) Audley; see WAKE, Bt) by Richard Grey, 1st Lord Grey (of Powis) (see GREY, B), but quite possibly Margaret's dau by her 1st husb Sir Roger Vaughan.¹

     Anne Ludlow married Thomas Vernon of Stokesay, son of Sir Henry Vernon Knt., KB, PC, Lord of Haddon and Lady Anne Talbot.^1,2

     Alice Smedley was born on 2 March 1695/96.^5,1 She married John Allen on 18 December 1718 at Middletown Friends Meeting, Lima Township, Delaware Co., Pennsylvania, USA,
; her 1st husband.^1,3 Alice Smedley married Edward Woodward Sr., son of Richard Woodward Sr. and Jane Nye, on 23 May 1722 at Providence Friends Meeting, Media, Delaware Co., Pennsylvania, USA,
; his 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.^1,3
Alice Smedley died before 1743.¹
     Reference:      See Launey [2007:II:150] for details of two children of Edward and Alice (Snedley) Woodward, Sr.⁶

     John Allen was born at Newtown, Pennsylvania, USA.¹ He married Alice Smedley, daughter of George Smedley and Sarah Kitchin, on 18 December 1718 at Middletown Friends Meeting, Lima Township, Delaware Co., Pennsylvania, USA,
; her 1st husband.^1,2
John Allen died on 12 February 1719/20; his wife remarried 12 May 1722.^1,2

     Elizabeth Woodward married Thomas Evenson on 6 July 1688
; per Launey [2007:II:147 fn 99]: "Elizabeth Woodward m. by Penssylvania license dated 6th of 5th mo, 1688 thomas Evenson (Evinson)."²

     George Woodward died in January 1757 at Newtown, Pennsylvania, USA; per Launey [2007:II:149]: "d. 1756 unm."^1,2
      ; by the will of his father he inherited 200 acres of land in Newtown,which had belonged to his mother. His will is dated 12,13,1756 and provenJan. 20, 1757, by which he devised to his sister Jane Woodward the saidplantation, on which he then lived: also mentions his mother-in-law(step-mother), Elizabeth Woodward, sisters, Margaret, Abigail and Hannah,cousin Edward Woodward, and Nathan Vernon, son of sister Abigail.¹

     Jane Woodward married Nathaniel Newlin Jr., son of Nathaniel Newlin Sr. and Mary Mendenhall, on 30 November 1757 at Swedes' Church, Philadelphia, Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania, USA.²

      ; Launey [2007:I:77]: mentioned in her grandmother's will.¹

Mary Burton witnessed the will of Elizabeth Paggott on 18 August 1714 at Chester Co., Pennsylvania, USA; Launey [2007:I:77]: "Mentions dau. Rachel Jackson and son-in-law Ephraim Jackson, son -in-law William Pagett, late of Ireland, granddau. Mary Burton, late of Ireland, grandson Nicholas Newlin, late of London, granddau. Elizabeth Lewis, dau.-in-law Mary Newlin, son Nathaniel and hi children: Nicholas, Nthaniel, John, Jemima, Kezia, and Mary."¹

     Alice Newlin married Joseph Fawkes.¹
Alice Newlin was born in 1762.¹
Alice Newlin died on 10 August 1852.¹

     John Goodwin married Sarah Kitchin, daughter of Thomas Kitchin,
; her 1st husband.^1,2,3 John Goodwin was born circa 1669.

     Sarah Edge died; Cope [1901:90] says: "died in her minotiry."³ She was born on 24 August 1746.^1,2

     Mary Edge was born on 18 January 1743 at Upper Providence Township, Chester Co., Pennsylvania, USA.^1,2,7 She married William Baldwin, son of John Baldwin and Elizabeth Pusey, on 18 October 1764 at Uwchlan Township, Chester Co., Pennsylvania, USA,
; per Baldwin [1881] - his 1st wife.^1,2,3,5
Mary Edge died on 13 March 1815 at Downingtown, Chester Co., Pennsylvania, USA, at age 72.^1,7

     William Baldwin married Ann Pennell
; per Baldwin [1881] - his 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.² William Baldwin was born on 5 November 1739; per Launey [2007:I:10] "b. 5th of 9th mo, 1739."^1,3,4 He married Mary Edge, daughter of George Edge and Ann Pennell, on 18 October 1764 at Uwchlan Township, Chester Co., Pennsylvania, USA,
; per Baldwin [1881] - his 1st wife.^1,5,2,4
William Baldwin was buried on 17 February 1776 at Uwchlan Friends Burial Ground, Liionville Township, Chester Co., Pennsylvania, USA.⁴
William Baldwin died in 1788.¹

His estate was probated circa 28 August 1799 at Chester Co., Pennsylvania, USA,
; per Baldwin [1881]: "Aug. 28, 1788, administration was granted on the estate of William, as of East Calm [sic] to his son John. He seems to have been a saddler."²
     He was a mentioned with John Baldwin and Elizabeth Pusey at Kennett Monthly Meeting, Kennett Township, Chester Co., Pennsylvania, USA; "Account of John & EliZabeth Baldwins Chirens births..."