Sandde ab Alcwn1

M, #15301
FatherAlcwn ap Tegid1
ReferenceGAV35 EDV35
Last Edited13 Feb 2003
     GAV-35 EDV-35. Sandde ab Alcwn was living circa 730.2

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Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 126, LLYWELYN ab IORWERTH. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 96 (Chart 2), 419. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.

Alcwn ap Tegid1

M, #15302
FatherTegid ap Gwair1
ReferenceGAV36 EDV36
Last Edited13 Feb 2003
     GAV-36 EDV-36. Alcwn ap Tegid was also known as Algwn ap Tegid.2 He was living circa 700.2

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Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 126, LLYWELYN ab IORWERTH. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 96 (Chart 2), 419. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.

Tegid ap Gwair1,2

M, #15303
FatherGwair ap Dwg3
ReferenceGAV37 EDV37
Last Edited13 Feb 2003
     GAV-37 EDV-37. Tegid ap Gwair was living circa 670.2

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 126, LLYWELYN ab IORWERTH. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 96 (Chart 2), 419. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  3. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).

Gwair ap Dwg1

M, #15304
FatherDiwg ap Llywarch Hen2
ReferenceGAV38 EDV38
Last Edited13 Feb 2003
     GAV-38 EDV-38. Gwair ap Dwg was also known as Gwyar ap Diwg.3 He was living in 630.3

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Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001). Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001), p. 126, LLYWELYN ab IORWERTH.
  3. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 96 (Chart 2), 419. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.

Diwg ap Llywarch Hen1

M, #15305
FatherLlywarch Hen ab Elidir d. c 640
ReferenceGAV39 EDV39
Last Edited13 Feb 2003
     GAV-39 EDV-39. Diwg ap Llywarch Hen was King of Man, [Ashley, p. 422] DIWG Man, fl 600s. Diwg is listed in the genealogies as the son of LLYWARCH HEN and as the ancestor of GWRIAD, the father of MERFYN FRYCH. Although tradition linked the descendants of Llywarch with the Isle of Man, it is not clear how far Gwriad's ancestors held authority over Man. It is probable that Diwg and his descendents held Man as vassals to the rulers of Gwynedd as a defence against the Irish throughout the seventh and eight centuries.

Nothing more is known of the descendants of Diwg beyond their names and approximate dates. The next historically attested ruler is Gwriad. circa 600.2

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Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 126, LLYWELYN ab IORWERTH. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 96 (Chart 2), 422. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.

Meurig ap Dyfnwallon King of Swisylwwg1,2

M, #15306
FatherDygnwallon ab Arthen King of Ceredigion1 d. 807
ReferenceGAV32 EDV32
Last Edited13 Feb 2003
     GAV-32 EDV-32.

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 126, LLYWELYN ab IORWERTH 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 346-347. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  3. [S1361] Mike Ashley, Ashley (1998) - British Kings, pp. 140 (Chart 4), 132.

Dygnwallon ab Arthen King of Ceredigion1

M, #15307, d. 807
FatherArthgen ap Seisyll1 d. 807
ReferenceGAV33 EDV33
Last Edited16 Mar 2004
     Dygnwallon ab Arthen King of Ceredigion died in 807.1
     He was King of Ceredigion: [Ashley, p. 132] DYFNWALLON Ceredigion, 807-? Dyfnwallon was the son of ARTHGEN. His reign commenced in 807, but it is not certain how long he ruled and he may have survived into the 830s. At this time MERFYN FRYCH of Gwynedd was beginning his territorial expansion and Dyfnwallon must have had problems in retaining his independence. He was succeeded by his son MEURIG.2 GAV-33 EDV-33. Dygnwallon ab Arthen King of Ceredigion was also known as Dyfnwallon King of Ceredigion.2

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 126, LLYWELYN ab IORWERTH 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 140 (Chart 4), 132. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.

Arthgen ap Seisyll1

M, #15308, d. 807
FatherSeisyll ap Clydog2
ReferenceGAV34 EDV34
Last Edited13 Feb 2003
     Arthgen ap Seisyll died in 807; [Ashley, p. 132] ARTHGEN AP SEISYLL Ceredigion and Seisyllwg, ? -807. Arthgen inherited the newly expanded kingdom of Seisyllwg from his father, though it may have been Arthgen who gave it its new name in honour of his father. He was still recorded as king of Ceredigion, however, at the time of his death.1
     GAV-34 EDV-34. Arthgen ap Seisyll was also known as Arthen ap Seisyll.2

Citations

  1. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 140 (Chart 4), 132. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 126, LLYWELYN ab IORWERTH 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).

Seisyll ap Clydog1

M, #15309
FatherClydog ab Arthlwys1
ReferenceGAV35 EDV35
Last Edited13 Feb 2003
     GAV-35 EDV-35. Seisyll ap Clydog was living circa 770; [Ashley, p. 132] SEISYLL AP CLYDOG Ceredigion and Seisyllwg, fl 770s. Ruler of Ceredigion who, at some stage in the late eighth century invaded Dyfed and took control over those cantrefi which are known collectively as Ystrad Tywi. This expanded kingdom he named Seisyllwg after himself and it formed the basis of the future Deheubarth. The length of Seisyll's reign is uncertain but it is possible he ruled for some time, perhaps as long as forty years, as there is some suggestion that he was around in the 730s. In fact Seisyll's existence is only known by reference back from his son, and his predecessors are known only from the king lists.2

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 126, LLYWELYN ab IORWERTH 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 140 (Chart 4), 132. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.

Clydog ab Arthlwys1

M, #15310
FatherArthlwys ab Arthfoddw1
ReferenceGAV36 EDV36
Last Edited13 Feb 2003
     GAV-36 EDV-36. Clydog ab Arthlwys was also known as Clydog ab Artglys.2 He was living circa 730; [Ashley, p. 132] Clydog is known only as the father of SEISYLL who united Ceredigion with Ystrad Tywi.2

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 126, LLYWELYN ab IORWERTH 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 140 (Chart 4), 132. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.

Arthlwys ab Arthfoddw1

M, #15311
FatherArthfoddw ap Boddw1
ReferenceGAV37 EDV37
Last Edited13 Feb 2003
     GAV-37 EDV-37. Arthlwys ab Arthfoddw was also known as Artglys.2 He was living circa 640; [Ashley, pp. 131-132] ARTGLYS Ceredigion, fl 640s. Artglys lived at a time when Gwynedd underwent an internal struggle between its ruling dynasty and the usurper CADFAEL. Consequently Ceredigion could seek some independence, and the archeological evidence indicates that around the early seventh century Ceredigion began to develop its own culture. Artglys probably started what his son CLYDOG continued and which developed particularly in the reign of SEISYLL.2

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 126, LLYWELYN ab IORWERTH 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 140 (Chart 4), 131-132. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.

Arthfoddw ap Boddw1

M, #15312
FatherBoddw ap Serwyl1
ReferenceGAV38 EDV38
Last Edited13 Feb 2003
     GAV-38 EDV-38. Arthfoddw ap Boddw was also known as Artbodgu ap Bodgu.2 He was living circa 600; [Ashley, p. 131] ARTBODGU AP BODGU Ceredigion, fl 600s. Fifth in line of descent from CEREDIG. At this time Ceredigion was almost certainly ruled from Gwynedd; but, during Artbodgu's reign, Ceredigion seems to emerge as having some identity of its own, distinct from Gwynedd to the north and Dyfed to the south, and it might be that he was the first to start seriously carving out a kingdom of his own. His son was ARTGLYs.2

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Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 126, LLYWELYN ab IORWERTH 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 140 (Chart 4), 131. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.

Boddw ap Serwyl1

M, #15313
FatherSerwyl ab Usai1
ReferenceGAV39 EDV39
Last Edited13 Feb 2003
     GAV-39 EDV-39. Boddw ap Serwyl was also known as Bodgu.2 He was living circa 560; [Ashley, p. 131] BODGU Ceredigion, fl 560s. Nothing is known about Bodgu's life. He was the son of SERGUIL and the father of ARTBODGU. He ruled (assuming he had any authority at all) at the time of RHUN, the mighty lord of Gwynedd, and it is more probable that Bodgu served as a frontier vassal king.2

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 126, LLYWELYN ab IORWERTH 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 140 (Chart 4), 131. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.

Serwyl ab Usai1

M, #15314
FatherUsai ap Ceredig1
ReferenceGAV40 EDV40
Last Edited13 Feb 2003
     GAV-40 EDV-40. Serwyl ab Usai was also known as Serguil.2 He was living circa 530; [Ashley, p. 131] SERGUIL Ceredigion, fl 530s. Serguil was the son of IUSAY and grandson of CEREDIG. At this time Ceredigion was a frontier zone between Gwynedd, then ruled by MAELGWYN, and Dyfed, ruled by VORTEPOR, and there was not room for much in between.2

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Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 126, LLYWELYN ab IORWERTH 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 140 (Chart 4), 131. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.

Usai ap Ceredig1

M, #15315
FatherCeredig ap Cunedda Wledig1
ReferenceGAV41 EDV41
Last Edited13 Feb 2003
     GAV-41 EDV-41. Usai ap Ceredig was also known as Iusay ap Ceredig.2 He was living circa 500; [Ashley, p. 131] IUSAY Ceredigion, fl 500s. Iusay is recorded as the son of CEREDIG, but whether he actually ruled in Ceredigion or merely serves as a genealogical link is uncertain. His reign coincided with that of AIRCOL LA WHIR of Demetia who almost certainly ruled the southern half of Ceredigion. Iusay, if he had any role at all, might have been as a defender of Gwynedd against the Irish of Demetia.2

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Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 126, LLYWELYN ab IORWERTH 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 140 (Chart 4), 131. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.

Ceredig ap Cunedda Wledig1

M, #15316
FatherCunedda Wledig ab Edern1
MotherGwawl (?)2
ReferenceGAV42 EDV42
Last Edited24 Feb 2003
     GAV-42 EDV-42 GKJ-43. Ceredig ap Cunedda Wledig was also known as Ceredig.2 He was living circa 470; [Ashley, p. 131] CEREDIG Ceredigion, fl 470s. Ceredig is the eponymous founder of Ceredigion, and supposed son of CUNEDDA. His existence, though, is subject to doubt, and his name may have been assumed by working back from the name of the territory. If he existed, he must have been a younger son of Cunedda, as EINION inherited the heartland of Venedotia (Gwynedd), while Ceredig inherited the coastal territory of west Wales. He probably ruled it as a sub-kingdom of Gwynedd, assuming it existed as a kingdom at all at that time. There is some archaeological evidence to suggest that the southern part of Ceredigion was culturally part of Dyfed and thus had closer Irish connections. Ceredig is recorded as marrying Eleri, the daughter of BRYCHAN, which, if true, would place him closer to the early sixth century. Two of Ceredig's daughters married the native rulers of Gwent and Glywysing (see TEITHFALLT and GLYWYS) suggesting that Ceredig was keen to develop alliances in south Wales. It is just possible that this Ceredig bears some relation to CERETIC, the ruler of Alclud, for although the latter is clearly identified with Dumbarton, both would have had opportunities to undertake slave trading in Ireland.2

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Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 126, LLYWELYN ab IORWERTH 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 140 (Chart 4), 131. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.

Cunedda Wledig ab Edern1

M, #15317
FatherEdern ap Padarn Beisrudd1
ReferenceGAV43 EDV43
Last Edited24 Feb 2003
     Cunedda Wledig ab Edern married Gwawl (?), daughter of Coel Hen "Old King Cole" (?) King of Northern Britain and Ystradwal (?).2
     GAV-43 EDV-43 GKJ-44. Cunedda Wledig ab Edern was also known as Cunedda King of Northern Britain.2 He was living between 420 and 460.2 He was King of North Wales: [Ashely, pp. 141-142] CUNEDDA Lothian (Gododdin), 430s; North Wales, 450s-c460s. Cunedda is one of the founding fathers of the Welsh royal dynasties, which means he has attracted as much tradition as history. There can be little doubt that he really existed, but how much of his life we can consider genuine is difficult to say, although there is nothing to dispute the generally accepted story. The name Cunedda is better known today as Kenneth, and it derives from the Celtic Counodagos, meaning "good lord", and is related to the later name Cinead, meaning "born of fire". Both of these derivations may be significant in Cunedda's case, as his genealogy (if it is correct) makes him the grandson of Padarn Beisrudd, which translates as Paternus of the Scarlet Cloak. Paternus was almost certainly a Roman official of high rank who, sometime around the year 388 was placed in command of the troops in the area of the Votadini or the Gododdin, in what later became Bernicia and Lothian. It is not quite certain whether Paternus had authority over the whole of this territory, or whether his domain was either south or north of the Wall. This command probably continued through Paternus's son, Eternus, to Cunedda who, around the year 430, effectively became the leader of the tribes of the Votadini, although he may not have been native to them. At this time Cunedda would have been heavily involved in the wars against the Picts who were threatening the lands south of Hadrian's Wall. During this period Cunedda married Gwawl, the daughter of COEL HEN.
Around the year 450 the problems throughout Britain became acute. Famine ravaged the land and Britain was beset by further invasions from the Saxons to the east and the Irish to the west. At this time, perhaps under instruction from the high king of the British (see VORTIGERN), Cunedda and his family moved south, leaving his eldest son, Tybion, in control in the north. Cunedda's role was to protect Wales from the invasions of the Irish. He established himself in north Wales, in the territory of the Venedotians, which became the core of the later kingdom of Gwynedd. Cunedda succeeded in holding the Irish incursions at bay, although he was never able to drive them out of Demetia, in south-west Wales. It is not certain where Cunedda established his base, though the old Roman fort at Chester is the most likely.
We know little about Cunedda himself, although his name may suggest a powerful lord with an aristocratic bearing. He certainly needed to be authoritative to command respect from the beleaguered Romano-British forces, though the degree of his success was plainly limited. A battle poem celebrating his successes calls him Cunedda the Lion, which is probably testament to his strength and courage. Although his dates are subject to degrees of uncertainty, he was probably born around the year 400 and may have lived into his 60s. Later tradition ascribed him nine sons, from whom territories of northern and central Wales derived their names, though it was not until the tenth century that the genealogies linked these to Cunedda. It is thus difficult to know for certain how many children Cunedda had and how these were linked to later generations of rulers. CEREDIG and EINION have separate entries. between 450 and 460.3

Family

Gwawl (?)
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 126, LLYWELYN ab IORWERTH 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), p. 67, Chart 1, p. 140, Chart 4, pp. 141-142. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  3. [S1361] Mike Ashley, Ashley (1998) - British Kings, pp. 140 (Chart 4), 141-142.
  4. [S1361] Mike Ashley, Ashley (1998) - British Kings, p. 140 (Chart 4).
  5. [S1361] Mike Ashley, Ashley (1998) - British Kings, pp. 140 (Chart 4), 162.
  6. [S1361] Mike Ashley, Ashley (1998) - British Kings, pp. 140 (Chart 4), 142.

Edern ap Padarn Beisrudd1

M, #15318
FatherPadarn Beisrudd (?)1
ReferenceGAV44 EDV44
Last Edited24 Feb 2003
     GAV-44 EDV-44 GKJ-45. Edern ap Padarn Beisrudd was also known as Edern.2

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 126, LLYWELYN ab IORWERTH 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), p. 67, Chart 1. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.

Padarn Beisrudd (?)1

M, #15319
FatherTacit (?)2
ReferenceGAV45 EDV45
Last Edited25 Feb 2003
     Padarn Beisrudd (?)
[Ashely, p. 141] Padarn Beisrudd, which translates as Paternus of the Scarlet Cloak. Paternus was almost certainly a Roman official of high rank who, sometime around the year 388 was placed in command of the troops in the area of the Votadini or the Gododdin, in what later became Bernicia and Lothian. It is not quite certain whether Paternus had authority over the whole of this territory, or whether his domain was either south or north of the Wall.3 GAV-45 EDV-45 GKJ-46. Padarn Beisrudd (?) was also known as Paternus Beisrudd (?)2 He was living in 300.1

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 126, LLYWELYN ab IORWERTH 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), p. 67, Chart 1. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  3. [S1361] Mike Ashley, Ashley (1998) - British Kings, p. 141.

William de Vescy Baron Vescy, of Alnwick, Northumberland, and Malton, Yorks1,2,3,4

M, #15320, d. before 7 October 1253
FatherEustace de Vescy Baron Vescy2,4 b. bt 1169 - 1171, d. Aug 1216
MotherMargaret de Huntingdon2,4,5 d. a 1226
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     William de Vescy Baron Vescy, of Alnwick, Northumberland, and Malton, Yorks married Isabella de Longespee, daughter of William I Longespee 3rd Earl of Salisbury and Ela fitz Patrick Countess of Salisbury, after 16 May 1226.1,2,6 William de Vescy Baron Vescy, of Alnwick, Northumberland, and Malton, Yorks married Agnes de Ferrers, daughter of William de Ferrers 5th Earl of Derby, 1st Earl of Westmoreland and Sybil Marshall, before 1244.1,2,3,7
William de Vescy Baron Vescy, of Alnwick, Northumberland, and Malton, Yorks was buried in 1253 at Watton Priory, Yorkshire, England.2


William de Vescy Baron Vescy, of Alnwick, Northumberland, and Malton, Yorks died before 7 October 1253 at Gascony, France; Racines et Histoire says d. 22 Oct 1253.2
     William de Vescy Baron Vescy, of Alnwick, Northumberland, and Malton, Yorks lived at Malton, Yorkshire, England.3

William de Vescy Baron Vescy, of Alnwick, Northumberland, and Malton, Yorks lived at Alnwick, Northumberland, England.3

Family 1

Children

Family 2

Isabella de Longespee b. a 1198, d. b 1248

Family 3

Agnes de Ferrers d. 11 May 1290
Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 130-131, de LONGESPEE 1:iv. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001), p. 257, de Vescy 6:i.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Vernon, Baron Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  4. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), p. 15. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret of Scotland: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00002890&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Anjou 3 page (The House of Anjou): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/anjou/anjou3.html
  7. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Earls of Derby, p. 197.
  8. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), p. 410 (Chart 22). Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.

Isabella de Vernon1

F, #15321
FatherSir Richard de Vernon Knt., of Haddon, Derbyshire1,2 d. bt 3 Feb 1322 - 3 Jun 1323
MotherMatilda/Maud de Camville1 d. a 27 Jul 1342
Last Edited9 Jun 2006
     Isabella de Vernon married Sir Richard Stafford of Pype, Staffordshire in 1337.1,2

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Vernon, Baron Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1939] Will Johnson, "Johnson email 29 Aug 2005: "Juliana of Vescy or of Alnwick - better birth range"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Johnson email 29 Aug 2005."

(?) de Longespee1

M, #15322
FatherSir William II Longespee Knt., de jure Earl of Salisbury1 b. bt 1207 - 1208, d. 7 Feb 1250
MotherIdoine de Camville1 b. c 1208, d. c 1251
Last Edited2 Sep 2001

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 131, de LONGESPEE 2:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).

Matthew de Louvaine of Little Easton, Essex and Bildeston, Suffolk1,2,3

M, #15323, b. before 26 November 1237, d. before 24 May 1302
FatherSir Matthew de Louvaine of Little Easton, Essex1,4,2,3 d. b Jun 1258
MotherMuriel (?)1,4,2,3 d. a 1275
ReferenceGAV23 GKJ20
Last Edited19 Aug 2019
     Matthew de Louvaine of Little Easton, Essex and Bildeston, Suffolk married Maud Poyntz.1,4,2 Matthew de Louvaine of Little Easton, Essex and Bildeston, Suffolk was born before 26 November 1237.1,4,3 He married Helisant de Perche, daughter of Thomas du Perche and Catherine Lesmaye, on 31 May 1268.1,4,2,3
Matthew de Louvaine of Little Easton, Essex and Bildeston, Suffolk died before 24 May 1302.1,4,2,3
     Matthew de Louvaine of Little Easton, Essex and Bildeston, Suffolk
Matthew; b c 1237; campaigned intermittently 1258-March 1300/1 in service of HENRY III and EDWARD I OF ENGLAND against the French, Scots and Welsh; m 1st by 31 May 1268 Helisant, a relative of HENRY III; m 2nd Maud Poyntz and d by 24 May 1302, leaving (probably by his 2nd w): Thomas (Sir.4 GAV-23 GKJ-20.

Family 1

Children

Family 2

Helisant de Perche
Child

Family 3

Maud Poyntz
Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 132, de LOUVAIN 3:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brabant 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brabant/brabant2.html
  3. [S2098] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 7 Sept 2006: "Re: CP Correction: Helisant 'du Perche', wife of Matthew de Lovaine"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 7 Sept 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 7 Sept 2006."
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Milford Haven Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Helisant de Perche1,2,3

F, #15324
FatherThomas du Perche3 b. b 20 Mar 1215
MotherCatherine Lesmaye3
ReferenceGAV23
Last Edited19 Aug 2019
     Helisant de Perche married Matthew de Louvaine of Little Easton, Essex and Bildeston, Suffolk, son of Sir Matthew de Louvaine of Little Easton, Essex and Muriel (?), on 31 May 1268.2,4,5,3
     GAV-23.

Helisant de Perche
per Ravilious: Helisant 'de Perche'[12]
'kinswoman of Henry III', as identified in account of her husband Matthew de Lovaine:

' He m., 1stly, on or before 31 May 1268, Helisant,
a kinswoman of Henry III, who gave 300 marks as her
marriage portion. ' [CP VIII:180, and note (f).[13]]

re: her husband:
of Little Easton, Essex and Bildeston, Suffolk

steward of Eye[12]

IPM of Matthew de Lovayn, at Malton, co. Yorks. 9 June 1302
(writ dated Westminster 24 May 1302) [Yorks. Inqs. IV:18-19[14]]

Spouse: Matthew de Lovaine
Birth: bef 26 Nov 1237[13]
Death: bef 24 May 1302[14],[15]
Father: Matthew de Lovaine (-<1258)
Mother: Muriel (->1274)
Marr: bef 1 Jun 1268[13]

Children: Alianore (->1326)

Ravilious cites:
1. W. L. Warren, "Henry II," University of California Press, 1973,
[English Monarchs Series].
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Queens of France," New York: Alfred A. Knopf, Inc., 1979.
3. Christian Settipani, "Trente-Deux Quartiers Ahnenreihe for Eleanor
of Aquitaine," 6 Sept 1998, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com,
rootsweb.com (rsponse to D.Spencer Hines, same subject, 2
Sept 1998.
4. David Faris, "Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century
Colonists," Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society,
1999, (2nd edition, 1999).
5. David Faris, "Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists,"
Baltimore: the Genealogical Pub. Company, 1st ed.
6. Robert William Eyton, "Court, Household, and Itinerary of King
Henry II," London: Taylor, 1878.
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Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven.
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(1171-1210): the expression of authority in name, style and
seal," Tabularia e Etudes, no. 3, 2003, pp. 69-88, URL
http://www.unicaen.fr/mrsh/crahm/revue/tabularia/thompson.html
email Kathleen.Thompson@shu.ac.uk,
Honorary Research Fellow, University of Sheffield.
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the Feast: Reconsidering Eleanor of Aquitaine's Female
Descendants," Bonnie Wheeler and John Carmi Parsons, eds.,
"Eleanor of Aquitaine: Lord and Lady," New York: Palgrave
Macmillan, 2002, Chapter 8 (pp. 177-211).
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GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Bradenstoke Cartulary, 655
[1144 x 1191] and 235 [1191 x 1202].
11. "Genealogics," website by Leo van de Pas,
http://www.genealogics.com,
cites Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg.,
Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, [ES], and other sources.
13. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 - [microprint, 1982 (Alan Sutton) ], The Complete Peerage of England Scotland
Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
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Yorkshire Archaeological Society, Record Series), various
dates:, Vol. I (Record series vol. XII) - 1892, Vol.
II(Record series vol. XXIII) - 1898, Vol. III (Record series
vol. XXXI) - 1902, Vol. IV (Record series vol. XXXVII) - 1906.
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Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
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London: Printed for His Majesty's Stationery Office by Mackie
& Co., LD., 1906.
17. "Calendar of the Patent Rolls," preserved in the Public Record
Office, Edward I. A.D. 1301-1307, London: for the Public
Record Office, 1898, (reprinted 1971, Kraus-Thomson,
Liechtenstein).
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Hauley - Part Two," 14 January 2005, email
ClaudiusI0@aol.com, cites Calendar of Documents pertaining
to Scotland preserved in her majestys public Record office,
London edited by Joseph Bain, Vol. I 1108-1272, #2047.
April 24, 1256; also #1420. Dec. 30, 1303.
19. "Calendar of the Close Rolls," Edw III (1327-1330), London:
Printed for His Majesty's Stationery Office by Eyre and
Spottiswoode, 1896.
20. W. H. Bliss, B.C.L. and C. Johnson, M.A., "Calendar of Entries
in the Papal Registers Relating to Great Britain and Ireland,"
Papal Letters, Vol. III (A.D. 1342-1362), London: for the
Public Record Office, 1897, (reprinted 1971, Kraus-Thomson,
Liechtenstein).
21. D. E. Easson, ed., "Charters of the Abbey of Coupar Angus,"
Edinburgh: T. and A. Constable, Ltd., for the Scottish
History Society, 1947.
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University of Pennsylvania Press, 1999, Vol. II: Trial by Fire.
23. "Charters of the Royal Burgh of Ayr," Edinburgh: printed for
The Ayr and Wigton Archaeological Association, 1883.3

Family

Matthew de Louvaine of Little Easton, Essex and Bildeston, Suffolk b. b 26 Nov 1237, d. b 24 May 1302
Child

Citations

  1. Boyer (2001, p. 132, de LOUVAIN 3:i) a kinswoman of King Henry III.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 132, de LOUVAIN 3:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  3. [S2098] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 7 Sept 2006: "Re: CP Correction: Helisant 'du Perche', wife of Matthew de Lovaine"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 7 Sept 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 7 Sept 2006."
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Milford Haven Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  5. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brabant 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brabant/brabant2.html

Maud Poyntz1

F, #15325
ReferenceGKJ20
Last Edited13 Aug 2003
     Maud Poyntz married Matthew de Louvaine of Little Easton, Essex and Bildeston, Suffolk, son of Sir Matthew de Louvaine of Little Easton, Essex and Muriel (?).1,2,3 Maud Poyntz married Isambert St. Blymund.1
     GKJ-20.

Family 1

Isambert St. Blymund

Family 2

Matthew de Louvaine of Little Easton, Essex and Bildeston, Suffolk b. b 26 Nov 1237, d. b 24 May 1302
Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 132, de LOUVAIN 3:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Milford Haven Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brabant 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brabant/brabant2.html

John de Louvaine1,2

M, #15327
FatherSir Matthew de Louvaine of Little Easton, Essex1,3,2 d. b Jun 1258
MotherMuriel (?)1,2 d. a 1275
Last Edited13 Aug 2003

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 132, de LOUVAIN 3:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brabant 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brabant/brabant2.html
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Milford Haven Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Geoffrey de Lucy1,2

M, #15328, b. circa 1125, d. before 1179
FatherSir Richard "the Loyal" de Lucy Knt.1,3,2,4 d. 14 Jul 1179
MotherRohese (?) de Boulogne1,3,5,2 b. c 1055, d. b 1151
ReferenceGAV22
Last Edited4 Jul 2010
     Geoffrey de Lucy was born circa 1125 at Dunmow, co. Essex, England.6
Geoffrey de Lucy died before 1179.3,2
     GAV-22.

Family 1

Margaret Multon b. c 1343
Child

Family 2

Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 134, LUCY of Newington 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Geoffrey de Lucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00464434&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1784] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 29 July 2005 "Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 29 July 2005."
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Richard de Lucy, of Chipping Ongar: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00463741&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rohese de Boulogne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00463742&tree=LEO
  6. [S792] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johanson, Susan Johanson (unknown location), downloaded updated 29 June 2001, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=johanson&id=I17405
  7. [S792] e-mail address, updated 29 June 2001, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=johanson&id=I25055

Godfrey de Lucy Bishop of Winchester1,2

M, #15329, d. 1204
FatherSir Richard "the Loyal" de Lucy Knt.1,3,2,4 d. 14 Jul 1179
MotherRohese (?) de Boulogne1,3,2,5 b. c 1055, d. b 1151
Last Edited29 Apr 2006
     Godfrey de Lucy Bishop of Winchester died in 1204.1,2
     Godfrey de Lucy Bishop of Winchester
A2. Godfrey de Lucy, Bishop of Winchester, +1204
..B1. John de Lucy
..B2. Geoffrey de Lucy, Dean of St. Paul's, Archdeacon of London, +1241.3

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 134, LUCY of Newington 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Godrey de Lucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00464437&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1784] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 29 July 2005 "Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 29 July 2005."
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Richard de Lucy, of Chipping Ongar: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00463741&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rohese de Boulogne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00463742&tree=LEO

Alice de Lucy1,2

F, #15330, d. before 1219
FatherSir Richard "the Loyal" de Lucy Knt.1,3,2,4 d. 14 Jul 1179
MotherRohese (?) de Boulogne1,3,5 b. c 1055, d. b 1151
ReferenceGAV22 EDV22
Last Edited29 Apr 2006
     Alice de Lucy married Odinel II de Umfreville Lord of Prudhoe, co. Northumberland, son of Odinel I de Umfravill Baron of Prudhoe.1,6,7,2
Alice de Lucy died before 1219.7,3
     Alice de Lucy
The Umfreville line is an interesting and important line of descendants and therefor that is where I started looking. I hope I read it correctly

A4 Alice de Lucy died before 1219, married Odinel de Umfreville
parents of
B2 Richard de Umfreville, of Prudhoe, died before November 1226
wife unknown
parents of
C1 Gilbert de Umfreville, of Prudhoe, died 1245
married (1) before 1242 Tiphaine de Baliol (2) 1243/1244 Maud, Countess of Angus
by second wife
D1 Gilbert de Umfreville, Earl of Angus born circa 1244, died 1307 buried Hesham Priory
married before 1267 Elizabeth Comyn
parents of
E1 Gilbert de Umfreville, married Margaret de Clare
E2 Robert de Umfreville, Earl of Angus, married (1) Lucy de Kyme (2) Eleanor de Clare (widow of Richard Marmaduke)
E3 Thomas de Umfreville, of Redesdale, died after 7 February 1304/5

In some of the other lines generation F is also given, but not here.

I hope I copied the above correctly from that list, I started this line with the daughter of Richard de Lucy but now I would like to compare it with CP Volume I pages 146 to 150, but will start with C1
C1 Gilbert de Umfreville of Prudhoe and Redesdale,
died before 13 March 1244/1245, his fathers name is given but no mention of a first wife. He married _1243_ Maud Countess of Angus
They are the parents of
D1. Gilbert de Umfreville, Earl of Angus, born circa 1244, died before 13 October 1307 married _no marriage date indicated_ Elizabeth Comyn
they have two sons (shown, of course they could have more)
E1.Gilbert de Umfreville, married Margaret de Clare
E2 Robert de Umfreville, Earl of Angus married (1) Lucy de Kyme (2) Alienor _no surname nor a widow but as his widow married Sir Roger Mauduit
.......E3 rates no mention

-------Why did Richardson stop here with this line? Why not add a sixth generation like in some other lines? It is just getting interesting .
E2 Robert de Umfreville, Earl of Angus is an ancestor of Gateway Ancestors
Olive Welby, Philip Mallory, Roger Mallory, Thomas Holford, Col. George Reade, Catherine Hamby, Jane Lowe, Nicholas Sewall, Hon. Robert Monckton, ass well as Prince William of Wales, Sarah Ferguson, William Addams Reitwiesner, Don Stone, Brom Nichol Jr., Mike Welch and John Ravilious.

E2 Robert de Umfreville, Earl of Angus
by his first wife had
1.Gilbert de Umfreville, Earl of Angus, should have been included in DRs list
2.Elizabeth married Gilbert de Boroughdon
by his second wife Alienor (or is it Eleanor de Clare?)
3.Robert
4.Thomasde Umfreville of Hessle married Joan Roddam
5.Annora married Stephen Walys

Thomas de Umfreville and Joan Roddam are ancestors of HM the Queen, Lady Diana Spencer and many other interesting people.

Best wishes
Leo van de Pas.7 GAV-22 EDV-22 GKJ-23.

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 134, LUCY of Newington 1:iv. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice de Lucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00463743&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1784] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 29 July 2005 "Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 29 July 2005."
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Richard de Lucy, of Chipping Ongar: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00463741&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rohese de Boulogne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00463742&tree=LEO
  6. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001), pp. 246-247, de UMFREVILLE 4.
  7. [S1782] Leo van de Pas, "van de Pas email 30 July 2005 "Descendants list of Richard de Lucy"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 30 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "van de Pas email 30 July 2005."
  8. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001), pp. 246-247, de UMFREVILLE 4:ii.
  9. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001), pp. 246-247, de UMFREVILLE 4:iii.
  10. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001), pp. 246-247, de UMFREVILLE 4:vii.
  11. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001), p. 247, de UMFREVILLE 4:viii.
  12. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001), pp. 246-247, de UMFREVILLE 4:i.