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     Humphrey le Bigod died circa 1120.¹
      ; clerk.¹

     Tommasia de Montfort married Pietro Vico Prefect of Rome.^1,2

      ; van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: III 642.²

     Edward de Burgh married Catherine Parr Queen of England, daughter of Sir Thomas Parr Knt., of Parr and Kendal and Maud Greene, circa 1529
; her 1st husband.^1,2
Edward de Burgh died before April 1533.¹
      ; Leo van de pas cites: Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques, Reference: 891.¹

     Alice de Montfort was born circa 1270.¹ She married Warin de Lisle
; her 1st husband.^1,3,2 Alice de Montfort married Sir Robert fitz Walter Knt., 1st Lord Fitz Walter, of Little Dunmow, Essex, son of Sir Walter fitz Robert Knt., of Woodham Walter, of Little Dunmow, Essex and Ida Longespee, circa 10 May 1308
; grant of marriage dtd 10 May 1308; her 2nd husband, his 3rd wife.^1,3,2,4
Alice de Montfort died after 1319.^1,3
      ; Complete Peerage, 8 (1932): 71 (sub Lisle) has a good account of the
life history of Warin de Lisle (died 1296), of Campton, Bedfordshire,
Rampton, Cambridgeshire, etc. Regarding his wife, Alice de Montfort,
the following information is provided:

"He married Alice, daughter of Sir Piers de Montfort, of Beaudesert,
co. Warwick. He [Warin] died shortly before 7 December 1296. His
widow had dower assigned to her 18 Feb. 1296/7. She married (grant of
her marriage 10 May 1308), as his 3rd wife, Robert (FitzWalter), Lord
FitzWalter. In 1315 she was going on a pilgrimage to Santiago, and in
1317 she went abroad with her husband. He died 18 January 1325/6."

Complete Peerage, 5 (1926): 474 (sub Fitzwalter) adds the following
information regarding Alice de Montfort and her 2nd husband, Sir Robert
Fitz Walter, Lord Fitz Walter:

"On 1 Sept. 1312 he had license to convey the manor of Little Dunmow to
himself and Alice, his wife, and the heirs of their bodies, with
remainder to his right heirs, and, 6 Oct. 1315, license to convey the
manor of Wimbish in the same terms."

The published Feet of Fines for Essex, Volume II (published 1913-1928)
have four fines which mention Robert Fitz Walter and his wife, Alice,
which items were overlooked by Complete Peerage:

pg. 127. Date: Hilary term, 3 Edward II [1310]. Robert son of Walter
and Alice his wife, pl. by John Dyen in her place. William de
Thrandeston, def. 1 messuage, 38 acres of land, 3 acres of meadow, 3
acres of wood, 18 acres of pasture and 2s. of rent in Woodham Water,
which William de Creye and Margery his wife hold for her life of the
inheritance of def. Pl. and the heirs of Robert of the body of Alice
to hold the reversion of the chief lords, with remainder to the right
heirs of Robert. This agreement was made in the presence of William
and Margery, who acknowledged that they had no claim in the tenements
except for life of Margery, and quitclaimed to pl. and their said
heirs. Endorsed: Amicia late the wife of Hugh le Parker puts in her
claim.

pg. 146. Date: Trinity term, 6 Edward II [1312]. Robert son of Walter
and Alice his wife, pl. by Henry Moun in her place. John de Leukenore
and Alice his wife, def. 120 acres of land, 2 acres of meadow, 2 acres
of wood and a fifth part of 1 messuage and 60s. rent in Suthemenstre,
Alethorn and Burnham. Robert acknowledged the tenements to be the
right of Alice wife of John, and for this def. granted them to pl. and
the heirs of Robert of the body of Alice his wife to hold of the chief
lords, with remainder to his right heirs.

pg. 189. Date: Trinity term, 12 Edward II [1319]. Robert son of
Walter and Alice his wife, pl. Thomas de Coulyng, def. The manor of
Little Dunmagh [Little Dunmow]. Robert acknowledged the manor to be
the right of def. as that which def. has of his gift, and for this def.
granted it to pl. and the heirs of their bodies to hold of the King and
his heirs, with remainder to the right heirs of Robert. This agreement
was made by precept of the King.

pg. 189. Date: Trinity term, 12 Edward II [1319]. Robert son of
Walter and Alice his wife, pl. Thomas de Coulyng, def. The manor of
Wymbyssh. Settlement as in the previous fine.

The above fines prove that Alice de Montfort, widow of Warin de Lisle,
married (2nd) before Hilary term, 3 Edward II [1310] to Robert Fitz
Walter, Lord Fitz Walter, and that she was still living as late as
Trinity term, 12 Edward II 1319]. Alice clearly seems to have child
bearing age at the time of the marriage, as all four fines above
specifically settle property on Alice and her 2nd husband, with
remainder to their issue. As such, Alice would presumably have been
born no earlier than circa 1270.

Complete Peerage, 8 (1932): 71 (sub Lisle) fails to identify which
Peter de Montfort, of Beaudesert, Warwickshire, was the father of Alice
(de Montfort) (de Lisle) Fitz Walter. However, in the addenda and
corrigenda volume, C.P. 14 (1998): 443 (sub Lisle), it is stated that
Alice was the daughter of Sir Peter de Montfort (died 1287), of
Beaudesert, Warwickshire, "by Maud, daughter and heiress of Matthew de
la Mare [see vol. ix, p. 127, sub Montfort]." While the correct Sir
Peter de Montfort is identified there as Alice's father, the
identification of her mother is partly in error. Alice's mother was
Maud, daughter and heiress of Henry de la Mare, Knt., of Ashtead,
Surrey, not Matthew de la Mare. For a lengthy discussion of Maud de la
Mare's correct parentage, please refer to my book, Magna Carta Ancestry
(2005), pg. 513.

Lastly, Complete Peerage, 8 (1932): 71 (sub Lisle) states that Alice de
Montfort's son and heir, Robert de Lisle, was born 20 January 1287/8,
which date is based on his proof of age. However, in three
inquisitions taken in Dec. 1296 and Jan. 1297 immediately following his
father's death, Robert is stated to then be aged 6 years and more, or
age 6 on the feast of SS. Fabian and Sebastian next [20 January 1297]
[Reference: Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, 3 (1912): 331-332].
This would place Robert de Lisle's birth as being circa 20 January
1291. Complete Peerage sub Lisle comments in passing on the
discrepancy in birthdates between the inquisitions and proof of age in
footnote "l" on page 71. However, no attempt is made to explain how or
why Robert's age could have been mistaken when taken by jurors in three
different counties, especially when the king was depending on them to
provide him accurate information on this very detail. The jurors
surely should have been able to distinguish between a 5 or 6 year old
child, and one that was aged 9.

For interest's sake, the following is the list of colonial New World
immigrants who descend from Alice (de Montfort) (de Lisle) Fitz Walter:

1. Henry Fleete.
2. Henry & William Randolph.
3. Hawte Wyatt.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Website: www.royalancestry.net.¹ She was living in 1319.²

     Warin de Lisle married Alice de Montfort, daughter of Sir Piers/Peter de Montfort Knt., of Beaudesert, Warwickshire and Maud/Matilda de la Mare,
; her 1st husband.^1,2,3
Warin de Lisle died before 7 December 1296.^1,3

      ; Dear Doug, Thanks for your very good post of yesterday. I've just sent off
to the list a message, which provides a pedigree (via Grey of
Sandiacre) from Richard III, duke of Normandy to the Cavendish
descendants of Elizabeth ("Bess of") Hardwick, incl. the emigrant
Jane Lowe.

Some ancillary evidence which ties your Marmion - Hillary
connection a little bit tighter:

CP VI:168, re: John Grey, formerly Hillary, states

" On or before 13 May 1390 he assumed the name of Grey (c).

Note (c): " Close Roll, 13 Ric. II, pt. ii, m. 9. Writ
(13 May 1390) to escheator in Worcester with
respect to the manor of Ruggehalle. Sir Baldwin
Frevyle, by charter indented, gave Crowenest
and Ruggehall to John Hillary, s. and h. of
Edward Hillary, and he by the name of John Grey,
s. and h. of Edward Hillary, further conveyed
the same. "

Sir Baldwin Freville and John Grey (of Sandiacre) were coheirs
of Philip Marmion (d. 1291), to-wit:

Philip Marmion = Joan de Kilpeck
_____________________________I_________________________
I I I
Joan = 2) Henry Mazera = Ralph Cromwell Maud
eldest dau. I Hillary 2nd dau. I d. ca. 1289 3rd
I I
I I
Sir Edward Hillary Joan = Sir Alexander
= Alice de Grey Cromwell I Freville
I I
I I
JOHN GREY Sir Baldwin Freville
d. 1403 d. 1343
I
I
Sir Baldwin Freville
fl. 1317-1375
I
I
Sir Baldwin Freville
fl. 1350-1387
I
I
SIR BALDWIN FREVILLE
fl. 1368-1401




~ John Grey was a minor at his father's death in 1362 (he was
born say 1355). As he was roughly equivalent in age to
the father of Sir Baldwin Freville of the 1390 indenture,
either he was the son of Sir Edward Hillary at a late point
in Sir Edward's life, or perhaps there's another generation
to be placed in the Hillary descent.....?

Again, many thanks for this and your other contributions.

Cheers, John.²

; Complete Peerage 6 (1926): 167-168 (sub Grey) has a good account of
the life history of Sir William de Grey (died 1369), of Sandiacre,
Derbyshire. It shows that Sir William was succeeded at his death by
his daughter and sole heiress, Agnes, wife of Sir Edward Hillary.
Agnes was aged 47 at her father's death, or born circa 1322. No
parentage is provided for Sir Edward Hillary.

Lincolnshire Notes and Queries 9 (1907): 134 includes a brief note on
Henry Hillary, of Scrivelsby, Lincolnshire (died 1349). It states
that he had two wives, Joan and Maud. Henry Hillary's son and heir
was Sir Edward Hillary, who is thought to have been a son of the 1st
wife, Joan.

Elsewhere Complete Peerage 8 (1932): 513, footnote d and 514, footnote
a (sub Marmion) shows that Joan Marmion (died 1340-1), daughter and
co-heiress of Philip Marmion (died 1291), married (1st) Thomas de
Ludlow, by whom she had a son, Thomas; and (2nd) Henry Hillary (died
1349), by whom she had a son, Edward Hillary, knt. At the Coronation
of King Edward III in 1327, Henry Hillary, Joan's 2nd husband, claimed
to perform the service of King's Champion.

Inasmuch as the IPM of Agnes de Grey's husband, Sir Edward Hillary,
shows that he held at his death 2 acres of land at Scrivelsby,
Lincolnshire, which property was the inheritance of Joan Marmion, it
seems safe to conclude that Sir Edward Hillary, husband of Agnes de
Grey, is the same person as Sir Edward Hillary, who was the son and
heir of Henry Hillary, of Scrivelsby, Lincolnshire, by his 1st wife,
Joan Marmion [see Complete Peerage, 6 (1926): 167, footnote h (sub Grey)].

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

E-mail: douglasrichardson@royalancestry.net
Website: www.royalancestry.net.¹ Joan Marmion was living between 1340 and 1341.¹

     Sir Baldwin I Freville of Tamworth married Elizabeth de Montfort, daughter of John de Montfort 1st Baron Montfort of Beaudesert and Alice de la Plaunche.²
Sir Baldwin I Freville of Tamworth was born in 1297.²
Sir Baldwin I Freville of Tamworth died on 6 October 1343.^1,2
      ; van de Pas cites: 1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 224
2. Genealogists' Magazine, Journal of the Society of Genealogists, London, Rference: June 1984, Patrick Montague Smith.²

      ; Dear Doug, Thanks for your very good post of yesterday. I've just sent off
to the list a message, which provides a pedigree (via Grey of
Sandiacre) from Richard III, duke of Normandy to the Cavendish
descendants of Elizabeth ("Bess of") Hardwick, incl. the emigrant
Jane Lowe.

Some ancillary evidence which ties your Marmion - Hillary
connection a little bit tighter:

CP VI:168, re: John Grey, formerly Hillary, states

" On or before 13 May 1390 he assumed the name of Grey (c).

Note (c): " Close Roll, 13 Ric. II, pt. ii, m. 9. Writ
(13 May 1390) to escheator in Worcester with
respect to the manor of Ruggehalle. Sir Baldwin
Frevyle, by charter indented, gave Crowenest
and Ruggehall to John Hillary, s. and h. of
Edward Hillary, and he by the name of John Grey,
s. and h. of Edward Hillary, further conveyed
the same. "

Sir Baldwin Freville and John Grey (of Sandiacre) were coheirs
of Philip Marmion (d. 1291), to-wit:

Philip Marmion = Joan de Kilpeck
_____________________________I_________________________
I I I
Joan = 2) Henry Mazera = Ralph Cromwell Maud
eldest dau. I Hillary 2nd dau. I d. ca. 1289 3rd
I I
I I
Sir Edward Hillary Joan = Sir Alexander
= Alice de Grey Cromwell I Freville
I I
I I
JOHN GREY Sir Baldwin Freville
d. 1403 d. 1343
I
I
Sir Baldwin Freville
fl. 1317-1375
I
I
Sir Baldwin Freville
fl. 1350-1387
I
I
SIR BALDWIN FREVILLE
fl. 1368-1401




~ John Grey was a minor at his father's death in 1362 (he was
born say 1355). As he was roughly equivalent in age to
the father of Sir Baldwin Freville of the 1390 indenture,
either he was the son of Sir Edward Hillary at a late point
in Sir Edward's life, or perhaps there's another generation
to be placed in the Hillary descent.....?

Again, many thanks for this and your other contributions.

Cheers, John.¹

     Sir William de Camville married Lucy (?)^1,2

Sir William de Camville died in 1260.^1,2
      ; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: III 3.²

; 1.1 William de Camville
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Death:     1260[1]

of Clifton Campville, co. Stafford, Llanstephan, co. Carmarthen,
Fedamore, co. Limerick and Caher, co. Tipperary[1]
2nd son
the lands of Clifton , disputed with half-brother Richard, adjudged to
him; received quitclaim of Llanstephan, co. Carmarthen from
grandmother
Aubree, 1228[1]

Spouse:     Lucy[1]
Death:     aft 14 Aug 1284[1]

Children:     Geoffrey (-<1308.)¹ GAV-24.

     Joan Griffith married Sir Richard de Vernon Knt., son of Sir Richard de Vernon Knt., of Haddon and Arleston and Juliana de Pembrugge.¹
Joan Griffith was born before 1372.¹
      ; Sir Richard Vernon Birth:     ca 1367[5] Death:     ca 1400[4]

of Haddon and Harleston, co. Derbys.

Spouse:     Joan Griffith
Birth:     bef 1372[6]
Father:     Sir Rhys ap Griffith (-1380)
Mother:     Elizabeth de Stackpole (-<1377)

Children:     Sir Richard (ca1394-<1451)

Ravilious cites: 4. Robert W. Barnes, "British Roots of Maryland Families," Baltimore:
Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1999.
5. Richard Ledyard, "Pembrugge/Vernon," Dec 9, 2000,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, additional notes and comments,
12/10/2000 by Todd A. Farmerie.
6. Paul C. Reed, FASG, "Tuberville heirs," July 31, 1998,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com.¹ GAV-18 GKJ-18.

     Sir Sir Rhys Ieuanc 'the younger' ap Rhys Gruffudd ap Hywel was born circa 25 December 1325 at Wales, England (now).^2,1 He married Elizabeth/Isabel de Stackpole, daughter of Richard de Stackpole of Stackpole, Angle and Lony, before 1370
; his 1st wife.^2,1 Sir Sir Rhys Ieuanc 'the younger' ap Rhys Gruffudd ap Hywel married Margaret La Zouche before 1377
; his 2nd wife.^2,1
Sir Sir Rhys Ieuanc 'the younger' ap Rhys Gruffudd ap Hywel died on 27 May 1380;      per Wood: "Date of death is 27 May 1380, per _Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica_, orig. series I:64.
     The Feast of St. Augustine of Canterbury (Augustine of the English) is 27 May, according to the Roman Catholic Church, which in 1380, was the religious calendar used in England.
     "A° 4 R. 2. Obitus secundi Resi Griffith militis filij et heredis predicti Resi et Johannæ qui habuit exitum cum Margareta filia N. Zouch Thomam Griffith in festo Sti Augustini Anglorum ep'i A° 1380 et sepultus est apud Polesworth predicta."^4,5,1"
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Ancestor list of Lucy and Emily O'Connor 2015 , O'Connor, Robert. 4,786,936
2. Welsh Genealogies 300-1400. 8 vols. , Bartrum, Peter C. Marchudd 15
3. Medieval Welsh Ancestors of Certain Americans, 2004 , Boyer, Carl 3rd. 253
4. Posting to Gen-Medieval Newsgroup . 30 Jul 1998
5. The History and Antiquities of Staffordshire. 2 vols., 1798-1801 , Shaw, Stebbing. 1:126.¹ Sir Sir Rhys Ieuanc 'the younger' ap Rhys Gruffudd ap Hywel was also known as Sir Rhys ap Griffith Knt., of Wichnor, Staffordshire.^4,2 GAV-19.

     Elizabeth/Isabel de Stackpole married Sir Sir Rhys Ieuanc 'the younger' ap Rhys Gruffudd ap Hywel, son of Sir Rhys Hên ap Gruffudd ap Hywel 'the elder' ap Gruffudd and Joan de Somerville, before 1370
; his 1st wife.^2,3
Elizabeth/Isabel de Stackpole died after 1377.¹
     GAV-19.

     Sir John Cokayne Knt., of Ashbourne, Derbyshire was born circa 1365.² He married Margaret (?)
; his 1st wife.^2,3 Sir John Cokayne Knt., of Ashbourne, Derbyshire married Isabel Shirley, daughter of Sir Hugh Shirley Knt., of Lower Ettington, Warwickshire and Beatrice Brewes, before 1422
; his 2nd wife.^2,4
Sir John Cokayne Knt., of Ashbourne, Derbyshire died on 7 June 1438.^1,2

     Isabel Shirley married Thomas Bate Gent., of London
; her 2nd husband.² Isabel Shirley married Sir John Cokayne Knt., of Ashbourne, Derbyshire, son of Sir Edward Cokayne Knt., of Ashbourne, Derbyshire and Elizabeth de Herthull, before 1422
; his 2nd wife.^2,3
Isabel Shirley died after 1459.¹

     Thomas Cokayne of Ashbourne, Derbyshire married Agnes Barlow, daughter of Robert Barlow and Margaret Delves.^1,2

Thomas Cokayne of Ashbourne, Derbyshire died in 1488 at slain, Pooley Park, Derbyshire, England.¹
      ; 1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Thomas Cokayne
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Death:     1488, slain at Pooley Park, co. Derbys. (d.v.p.)[7]

of Ashbourne and Pooley, co. Derby
heir apparent of his father

Spouse:     Agnes Barlow
Father:     Robert Barlow
Mother:     Margaret Delves

Children:     Sir Thomas (ca1479->1537)

Ravilious cites:
4. Robert W. Barnes, "British Roots of Maryland Families," Baltimore:
Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1999.
7. Douglas Richardson, "Plantagenet," Jan 20, 2003,
email royalancestry@msn.com.¹

Thomas Cokayne of Ashbourne, Derbyshire left a will on 4 April 1537.⁴

     Agnes Barlow married Thomas Cokayne of Ashbourne, Derbyshire, son of John Cokayne Esq., of Ashbourne Hall, Warwickshire and Agnes Vernon.^1,2

     Robert Barlow married Margaret Delves, daughter of Henry Delves.

     Margaret Delves married Robert Barlow.

     Sir Thomas Cokayne Knt. married Barbara fitz Herbert, daughter of John fitz Herbert of Etwall, Derbyshire and Margaret/Joan Babington.^1,2
Sir Thomas Cokayne Knt. was born circa 1479.¹
Sir Thomas Cokayne Knt. died after 4 April 1537.¹
      ; 1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Sir Thomas Cokayne
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Birth:     ca 1479[7]
Death:     aft 4 Apr 1537[4],[7]
Burial:     St. Oswald's, Ashbourne, co. Derby

knight, of Ashbourne, co. Derby
fought at Battle of Tournai, 1513[4]

Spouse:     Barbara FitzHerbert
Father:     John FitzHerbert
Mother:     Margaret Babington

Children:     Jane

Ravilious cites:
4. Robert W. Barnes, "British Roots of Maryland Families," Baltimore:
Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1999.
7. Douglas Richardson, "Plantagenet," Jan 20, 2003,
email royalancestry@msn.com.¹

; per Ravilious: "fought at battle of Tournai". Ravilious cites 4. Robert W. Barnes, "British Roots of Maryland Families," Baltimore:
Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1999.¹

     Barbara fitz Herbert married Sir Thomas Cokayne Knt., son of Thomas Cokayne of Ashbourne, Derbyshire and Agnes Barlow.^1,2

     Barbara fitz Herbert was living on 25 April 1537.⁴

     Jane Cokayne married Vincent Lowe Esq., of Denby and Compton, Derbyshire, son of Humphrey Lowe Esq., of Denby, Derbyshire and Margaret Linstone.^1,3,2

      ; Jane Cokayne[4] - '...Jane, elder daughter of Sir Thomas Cokayne of Ashbourn.'
(Cox., p. 252)[8]

Spouse:     Vincent Lowe
Death:     ca 1556[4]
Father:     Humphrey Lowe (->1516)
Mother:     Margaret Cokayne

Children:     Jasper (-1582)
Barbara

Ravilious cites:
4. Robert W. Barnes, "British Roots of Maryland Families," Baltimore:
Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1999.
8. "The Churches of Derbyshire," Charles Cox, pp. 248-254 provided by
Rosie Bevan.¹

     Vincent Lowe Esq., of Denby and Compton, Derbyshire married Jane Cokayne, daughter of Sir Thomas Cokayne Knt. and Barbara fitz Herbert.^1,2,3

Vincent Lowe Esq., of Denby and Compton, Derbyshire died circa 1557.^1,3

     Humphrey Lowe Esq., of Denby, Derbyshire married Margaret Linstone, daughter of John Linstone.²

Humphrey Lowe Esq., of Denby, Derbyshire died after 1516.¹

     Margaret Linstone married Humphrey Lowe Esq., of Denby, Derbyshire.²