Tuger/Tutcherus Bold of Doncaster, Yorkshire1

M, #67652, d. between 10 October 1494 and 12 May 1495
FatherSir Henry Bold Knt.1 b. 1444, d. 1496
MotherDulcia Alice Savage1 b. 1448, d. bt 1515 - 1581
Last Edited1 Oct 2005
     Tuger/Tutcherus Bold of Doncaster, Yorkshire married Isabel (?)1
Tuger/Tutcherus Bold of Doncaster, Yorkshire died between 10 October 1494 and 12 May 1495.1
     ; Another son of Henry Bold and Dulcia Savage was Tuger [Tutcherus] Bold of Doncaster, Yorkshire. He was brought to Yorkshire in service to the clerical Booth family, and died between 10 Oct. 1494 and 12 May 1495 and was buried in the chapel of St. Anne in St. George's Church in Doncaster. He left a wife Isabel and a daughter Ellen [Reg. Test. 5, 460b]. He was a legatee in the 1488 will of William Chauntrell, armiger [Test. Ebor. 4, 32-33]: "Volo quod Tocherus Bolde solvat c s., quos de me gratia mutui recepit, centum presbyteris, ad dicendum Placebo et Dirige cum Commendatione et Missa de Requiem pro anima mea....Tochero Bolde meam togam talarem de chamlet, cum mea tunica de viridi satana."1

Family

Isabel (?)
Child

Citations

  1. [S1816] Todd Whitesides, "Whitesides email #2 23 June 2005 "Outline of the Issue of Henry Bold [fl. 1464-1497], Knt."

    Earl Hubert de Burgh's mother was Alice Pouchard. However, the name
    of his father is uncertain.

    I found the abstract of the following document pertaining to a certain
    Thomas son of Walter de Burgh in the National Archives catalogue at
    the following website:

    http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp.

    "E 40/2948: Grant by Thomas son of Walter de Burgo, to Thomas de
    Yford, for 10 marcs, of land called 'Cnoppecroft,' containing 16
    acres, in Utwellys. Witnesses:- Sir Adam de Hagebeche, Robert de
    Covenham, and others (named): [Norf.] Endorsed: "Blezwyk. de
    Utwelles." END OF QUOTE.

    If it can be proven that this Thomas de Burgh is the same person as
    Earl Hubert's brother, Thomas de Burgh, then the name of Earl Hubert's
    father would be known.

    Comments are invited.

    Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

    e-mail address wrote in message news:<e-mail address>...

    >> Friday, 15 October, 2004
    >>
    >>
    >> Dear Doug,
    >>
    >> Thanks for that very good post - the details re: Hubert de Burgh's
    >> known brothers is especially appreciated.
    >>
    >> On the subject of the de Burgh origins and the possible relationship
    >> of William and Hubert, Richard Borthwick wrote some time ago (in part),
    >>
    >> '(3) The parents of Hubert de Burgh (d.1243) were Alice & her husband
    >> whose christian name was probably Walter. This Walter (d.1179/80)
    >> held Burgh near Aylsham, Norfolk. Hubert had a brother, William
    >> (d.1205) from whom the earls of Ulster as well as the Burkes of
    >> Limerick, Tipperary, Clanricarde and Mayo descend. It would seem
    >> that the family can be traced back no further than Hubert's mother
    >> and probable father. "The false trail laid by Dugdale in the
    >> seventeenth century was still being faithfully followed in the
    >> nineteenth." [Ellis, 183]. The DNB article on Hubert is a notorious
    >> example. The family were modest Norfolk gentry - nothing very
    >> grand. [Ellis, C. *Hubert de Burgh: A Study in Constancy* (Phoenix >> House: London, 1952), 183-202] ' [1]
    >>
    >> The various de Burgh connections (de Boseville, William <-> Hubert,
    >> and Richard de Burgh <-> King Edward I) all deserve further study.
    >> Anything I might uncover will surely be passed along.
    >>
    >> Cheers,
    >>
    >> John
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> NOTES
    >> [1] Richard Borthwick, , SGM, 6 Nov 1998



    "Dear John ~

    Thank you for your input on the Burgh family. Much appreciated.

    Earl Hubert de Burgh's mother was Alice Pouchard. However, the name
    of his father is uncertain.

    I found the abstract of the following document pertaining to a certain
    Thomas son of Walter de Burgh in the National Archives catalogue at
    the following website:

    http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp.

    "E 40/2948: Grant by Thomas son of Walter de Burgo, to Thomas de
    Yford, for 10 marcs, of land called 'Cnoppecroft,' containing 16
    acres, in Utwellys. Witnesses:- Sir Adam de Hagebeche, Robert de
    Covenham, and others (named): [Norf.] Endorsed: "Blezwyk. de
    Utwelles." END OF QUOTE.

    If it can be proven that this Thomas de Burgh is the same person as
    Earl Hubert's brother, Thomas de Burgh, then the name of Earl Hubert's
    father would be known.

    Comments are invited.

    Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

    e-mail address wrote in message news:<e-mail address>...

    >> Friday, 15 October, 2004
    >>
    >>
    >> Dear Doug,
    >>
    >> Thanks for that very good post - the details re: Hubert de Burgh's
    >> known brothers is especially appreciated.
    >>
    >> On the subject of the de Burgh origins and the possible relationship
    >> of William and Hubert, Richard Borthwick wrote some time ago (in part),
    >>
    >> '(3) The parents of Hubert de Burgh (d.1243) were Alice & her husband
    >> whose christian name was probably Walter. This Walter (d.1179/80)
    >> held Burgh near Aylsham, Norfolk. Hubert had a brother, William
    >> (d.1205) from whom the earls of Ulster as well as the Burkes of
    >> Limerick, Tipperary, Clanricarde and Mayo descend. It would seem
    >> that the family can be traced back no further than Hubert's mother
    >> and probable father. "The false trail laid by Dugdale in the
    >> seventeenth century was still being faithfully followed in the
    >> nineteenth." [Ellis, 183]. The DNB article on Hubert is a notorious
    >> example. The family were modest Norfolk gentry - nothing very
    >> grand. [Ellis, C. *Hubert de Burgh: A Study in Constancy* (Phoenix >> House: London, 1952), 183-202] ' [1]
    >>
    >> The various de Burgh connections (de Boseville, William <-> Hubert,
    >> and Richard de Burgh <-> King Edward I) all deserve further study.
    >> Anything I might uncover will surely be passed along.
    >>
    >> Cheers,
    >>
    >> John
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> NOTES
    >> [1] Richard Borthwick, , SGM, 6 Nov 1998



    Ravilious email 15 Oct 2004 "Re: FW: de Burgh"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Whitesides email #2 23 June 2005."

Ellen Bold1

F, #67654
FatherTuger/Tutcherus Bold of Doncaster, Yorkshire1 d. bt 10 Oct 1494 - 12 May 1495
MotherIsabel (?)1
Last Edited1 Oct 2005

Citations

  1. [S1816] Todd Whitesides, "Whitesides email #2 23 June 2005 "Outline of the Issue of Henry Bold [fl. 1464-1497], Knt."

    Earl Hubert de Burgh's mother was Alice Pouchard. However, the name
    of his father is uncertain.

    I found the abstract of the following document pertaining to a certain
    Thomas son of Walter de Burgh in the National Archives catalogue at
    the following website:

    http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp.

    "E 40/2948: Grant by Thomas son of Walter de Burgo, to Thomas de
    Yford, for 10 marcs, of land called 'Cnoppecroft,' containing 16
    acres, in Utwellys. Witnesses:- Sir Adam de Hagebeche, Robert de
    Covenham, and others (named): [Norf.] Endorsed: "Blezwyk. de
    Utwelles." END OF QUOTE.

    If it can be proven that this Thomas de Burgh is the same person as
    Earl Hubert's brother, Thomas de Burgh, then the name of Earl Hubert's
    father would be known.

    Comments are invited.

    Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

    e-mail address wrote in message news:<e-mail address>...

    >> Friday, 15 October, 2004
    >>
    >>
    >> Dear Doug,
    >>
    >> Thanks for that very good post - the details re: Hubert de Burgh's
    >> known brothers is especially appreciated.
    >>
    >> On the subject of the de Burgh origins and the possible relationship
    >> of William and Hubert, Richard Borthwick wrote some time ago (in part),
    >>
    >> '(3) The parents of Hubert de Burgh (d.1243) were Alice & her husband
    >> whose christian name was probably Walter. This Walter (d.1179/80)
    >> held Burgh near Aylsham, Norfolk. Hubert had a brother, William
    >> (d.1205) from whom the earls of Ulster as well as the Burkes of
    >> Limerick, Tipperary, Clanricarde and Mayo descend. It would seem
    >> that the family can be traced back no further than Hubert's mother
    >> and probable father. "The false trail laid by Dugdale in the
    >> seventeenth century was still being faithfully followed in the
    >> nineteenth." [Ellis, 183]. The DNB article on Hubert is a notorious
    >> example. The family were modest Norfolk gentry - nothing very
    >> grand. [Ellis, C. *Hubert de Burgh: A Study in Constancy* (Phoenix >> House: London, 1952), 183-202] ' [1]
    >>
    >> The various de Burgh connections (de Boseville, William <-> Hubert,
    >> and Richard de Burgh <-> King Edward I) all deserve further study.
    >> Anything I might uncover will surely be passed along.
    >>
    >> Cheers,
    >>
    >> John
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> NOTES
    >> [1] Richard Borthwick, , SGM, 6 Nov 1998



    "Dear John ~

    Thank you for your input on the Burgh family. Much appreciated.

    Earl Hubert de Burgh's mother was Alice Pouchard. However, the name
    of his father is uncertain.

    I found the abstract of the following document pertaining to a certain
    Thomas son of Walter de Burgh in the National Archives catalogue at
    the following website:

    http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp.

    "E 40/2948: Grant by Thomas son of Walter de Burgo, to Thomas de
    Yford, for 10 marcs, of land called 'Cnoppecroft,' containing 16
    acres, in Utwellys. Witnesses:- Sir Adam de Hagebeche, Robert de
    Covenham, and others (named): [Norf.] Endorsed: "Blezwyk. de
    Utwelles." END OF QUOTE.

    If it can be proven that this Thomas de Burgh is the same person as
    Earl Hubert's brother, Thomas de Burgh, then the name of Earl Hubert's
    father would be known.

    Comments are invited.

    Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

    e-mail address wrote in message news:<e-mail address>...

    >> Friday, 15 October, 2004
    >>
    >>
    >> Dear Doug,
    >>
    >> Thanks for that very good post - the details re: Hubert de Burgh's
    >> known brothers is especially appreciated.
    >>
    >> On the subject of the de Burgh origins and the possible relationship
    >> of William and Hubert, Richard Borthwick wrote some time ago (in part),
    >>
    >> '(3) The parents of Hubert de Burgh (d.1243) were Alice & her husband
    >> whose christian name was probably Walter. This Walter (d.1179/80)
    >> held Burgh near Aylsham, Norfolk. Hubert had a brother, William
    >> (d.1205) from whom the earls of Ulster as well as the Burkes of
    >> Limerick, Tipperary, Clanricarde and Mayo descend. It would seem
    >> that the family can be traced back no further than Hubert's mother
    >> and probable father. "The false trail laid by Dugdale in the
    >> seventeenth century was still being faithfully followed in the
    >> nineteenth." [Ellis, 183]. The DNB article on Hubert is a notorious
    >> example. The family were modest Norfolk gentry - nothing very
    >> grand. [Ellis, C. *Hubert de Burgh: A Study in Constancy* (Phoenix >> House: London, 1952), 183-202] ' [1]
    >>
    >> The various de Burgh connections (de Boseville, William <-> Hubert,
    >> and Richard de Burgh <-> King Edward I) all deserve further study.
    >> Anything I might uncover will surely be passed along.
    >>
    >> Cheers,
    >>
    >> John
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> NOTES
    >> [1] Richard Borthwick, , SGM, 6 Nov 1998



    Ravilious email 15 Oct 2004 "Re: FW: de Burgh"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Whitesides email #2 23 June 2005."

William Gerard1

M, #67655
ChartsAncestors - Robert Delaney PRATT
ReferenceGAV14
Last Edited1 Oct 2005
     GAV-14.

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1816] Todd Whitesides, "Whitesides email #2 23 June 2005 "Outline of the Issue of Henry Bold [fl. 1464-1497], Knt."

    Earl Hubert de Burgh's mother was Alice Pouchard. However, the name
    of his father is uncertain.

    I found the abstract of the following document pertaining to a certain
    Thomas son of Walter de Burgh in the National Archives catalogue at
    the following website:

    http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp.

    "E 40/2948: Grant by Thomas son of Walter de Burgo, to Thomas de
    Yford, for 10 marcs, of land called 'Cnoppecroft,' containing 16
    acres, in Utwellys. Witnesses:- Sir Adam de Hagebeche, Robert de
    Covenham, and others (named): [Norf.] Endorsed: "Blezwyk. de
    Utwelles." END OF QUOTE.

    If it can be proven that this Thomas de Burgh is the same person as
    Earl Hubert's brother, Thomas de Burgh, then the name of Earl Hubert's
    father would be known.

    Comments are invited.

    Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

    e-mail address wrote in message news:<e-mail address>...

    >> Friday, 15 October, 2004
    >>
    >>
    >> Dear Doug,
    >>
    >> Thanks for that very good post - the details re: Hubert de Burgh's
    >> known brothers is especially appreciated.
    >>
    >> On the subject of the de Burgh origins and the possible relationship
    >> of William and Hubert, Richard Borthwick wrote some time ago (in part),
    >>
    >> '(3) The parents of Hubert de Burgh (d.1243) were Alice & her husband
    >> whose christian name was probably Walter. This Walter (d.1179/80)
    >> held Burgh near Aylsham, Norfolk. Hubert had a brother, William
    >> (d.1205) from whom the earls of Ulster as well as the Burkes of
    >> Limerick, Tipperary, Clanricarde and Mayo descend. It would seem
    >> that the family can be traced back no further than Hubert's mother
    >> and probable father. "The false trail laid by Dugdale in the
    >> seventeenth century was still being faithfully followed in the
    >> nineteenth." [Ellis, 183]. The DNB article on Hubert is a notorious
    >> example. The family were modest Norfolk gentry - nothing very
    >> grand. [Ellis, C. *Hubert de Burgh: A Study in Constancy* (Phoenix >> House: London, 1952), 183-202] ' [1]
    >>
    >> The various de Burgh connections (de Boseville, William <-> Hubert,
    >> and Richard de Burgh <-> King Edward I) all deserve further study.
    >> Anything I might uncover will surely be passed along.
    >>
    >> Cheers,
    >>
    >> John
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> NOTES
    >> [1] Richard Borthwick, , SGM, 6 Nov 1998



    "Dear John ~

    Thank you for your input on the Burgh family. Much appreciated.

    Earl Hubert de Burgh's mother was Alice Pouchard. However, the name
    of his father is uncertain.

    I found the abstract of the following document pertaining to a certain
    Thomas son of Walter de Burgh in the National Archives catalogue at
    the following website:

    http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp.

    "E 40/2948: Grant by Thomas son of Walter de Burgo, to Thomas de
    Yford, for 10 marcs, of land called 'Cnoppecroft,' containing 16
    acres, in Utwellys. Witnesses:- Sir Adam de Hagebeche, Robert de
    Covenham, and others (named): [Norf.] Endorsed: "Blezwyk. de
    Utwelles." END OF QUOTE.

    If it can be proven that this Thomas de Burgh is the same person as
    Earl Hubert's brother, Thomas de Burgh, then the name of Earl Hubert's
    father would be known.

    Comments are invited.

    Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

    e-mail address wrote in message news:<e-mail address>...

    >> Friday, 15 October, 2004
    >>
    >>
    >> Dear Doug,
    >>
    >> Thanks for that very good post - the details re: Hubert de Burgh's
    >> known brothers is especially appreciated.
    >>
    >> On the subject of the de Burgh origins and the possible relationship
    >> of William and Hubert, Richard Borthwick wrote some time ago (in part),
    >>
    >> '(3) The parents of Hubert de Burgh (d.1243) were Alice & her husband
    >> whose christian name was probably Walter. This Walter (d.1179/80)
    >> held Burgh near Aylsham, Norfolk. Hubert had a brother, William
    >> (d.1205) from whom the earls of Ulster as well as the Burkes of
    >> Limerick, Tipperary, Clanricarde and Mayo descend. It would seem
    >> that the family can be traced back no further than Hubert's mother
    >> and probable father. "The false trail laid by Dugdale in the
    >> seventeenth century was still being faithfully followed in the
    >> nineteenth." [Ellis, 183]. The DNB article on Hubert is a notorious
    >> example. The family were modest Norfolk gentry - nothing very
    >> grand. [Ellis, C. *Hubert de Burgh: A Study in Constancy* (Phoenix >> House: London, 1952), 183-202] ' [1]
    >>
    >> The various de Burgh connections (de Boseville, William <-> Hubert,
    >> and Richard de Burgh <-> King Edward I) all deserve further study.
    >> Anything I might uncover will surely be passed along.
    >>
    >> Cheers,
    >>
    >> John
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> NOTES
    >> [1] Richard Borthwick, , SGM, 6 Nov 1998



    Ravilious email 15 Oct 2004 "Re: FW: de Burgh"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Whitesides email #2 23 June 2005."

Henry Blundell of Little Crosby, Lancashire1

M, #67656, d. 9 September 1513
Last Edited1 Oct 2005
     Henry Blundell of Little Crosby, Lancashire married Agnes Bold, daughter of Sir Henry Bold Knt., circa 18 August 1503.1
Henry Blundell of Little Crosby, Lancashire died on 9 September 1513.1

Family

Agnes Bold

Citations

  1. [S1816] Todd Whitesides, "Whitesides email #2 23 June 2005 "Outline of the Issue of Henry Bold [fl. 1464-1497], Knt."

    Earl Hubert de Burgh's mother was Alice Pouchard. However, the name
    of his father is uncertain.

    I found the abstract of the following document pertaining to a certain
    Thomas son of Walter de Burgh in the National Archives catalogue at
    the following website:

    http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp.

    "E 40/2948: Grant by Thomas son of Walter de Burgo, to Thomas de
    Yford, for 10 marcs, of land called 'Cnoppecroft,' containing 16
    acres, in Utwellys. Witnesses:- Sir Adam de Hagebeche, Robert de
    Covenham, and others (named): [Norf.] Endorsed: "Blezwyk. de
    Utwelles." END OF QUOTE.

    If it can be proven that this Thomas de Burgh is the same person as
    Earl Hubert's brother, Thomas de Burgh, then the name of Earl Hubert's
    father would be known.

    Comments are invited.

    Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

    e-mail address wrote in message news:<e-mail address>...

    >> Friday, 15 October, 2004
    >>
    >>
    >> Dear Doug,
    >>
    >> Thanks for that very good post - the details re: Hubert de Burgh's
    >> known brothers is especially appreciated.
    >>
    >> On the subject of the de Burgh origins and the possible relationship
    >> of William and Hubert, Richard Borthwick wrote some time ago (in part),
    >>
    >> '(3) The parents of Hubert de Burgh (d.1243) were Alice & her husband
    >> whose christian name was probably Walter. This Walter (d.1179/80)
    >> held Burgh near Aylsham, Norfolk. Hubert had a brother, William
    >> (d.1205) from whom the earls of Ulster as well as the Burkes of
    >> Limerick, Tipperary, Clanricarde and Mayo descend. It would seem
    >> that the family can be traced back no further than Hubert's mother
    >> and probable father. "The false trail laid by Dugdale in the
    >> seventeenth century was still being faithfully followed in the
    >> nineteenth." [Ellis, 183]. The DNB article on Hubert is a notorious
    >> example. The family were modest Norfolk gentry - nothing very
    >> grand. [Ellis, C. *Hubert de Burgh: A Study in Constancy* (Phoenix >> House: London, 1952), 183-202] ' [1]
    >>
    >> The various de Burgh connections (de Boseville, William <-> Hubert,
    >> and Richard de Burgh <-> King Edward I) all deserve further study.
    >> Anything I might uncover will surely be passed along.
    >>
    >> Cheers,
    >>
    >> John
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> NOTES
    >> [1] Richard Borthwick, , SGM, 6 Nov 1998



    "Dear John ~

    Thank you for your input on the Burgh family. Much appreciated.

    Earl Hubert de Burgh's mother was Alice Pouchard. However, the name
    of his father is uncertain.

    I found the abstract of the following document pertaining to a certain
    Thomas son of Walter de Burgh in the National Archives catalogue at
    the following website:

    http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp.

    "E 40/2948: Grant by Thomas son of Walter de Burgo, to Thomas de
    Yford, for 10 marcs, of land called 'Cnoppecroft,' containing 16
    acres, in Utwellys. Witnesses:- Sir Adam de Hagebeche, Robert de
    Covenham, and others (named): [Norf.] Endorsed: "Blezwyk. de
    Utwelles." END OF QUOTE.

    If it can be proven that this Thomas de Burgh is the same person as
    Earl Hubert's brother, Thomas de Burgh, then the name of Earl Hubert's
    father would be known.

    Comments are invited.

    Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

    e-mail address wrote in message news:<e-mail address>...

    >> Friday, 15 October, 2004
    >>
    >>
    >> Dear Doug,
    >>
    >> Thanks for that very good post - the details re: Hubert de Burgh's
    >> known brothers is especially appreciated.
    >>
    >> On the subject of the de Burgh origins and the possible relationship
    >> of William and Hubert, Richard Borthwick wrote some time ago (in part),
    >>
    >> '(3) The parents of Hubert de Burgh (d.1243) were Alice & her husband
    >> whose christian name was probably Walter. This Walter (d.1179/80)
    >> held Burgh near Aylsham, Norfolk. Hubert had a brother, William
    >> (d.1205) from whom the earls of Ulster as well as the Burkes of
    >> Limerick, Tipperary, Clanricarde and Mayo descend. It would seem
    >> that the family can be traced back no further than Hubert's mother
    >> and probable father. "The false trail laid by Dugdale in the
    >> seventeenth century was still being faithfully followed in the
    >> nineteenth." [Ellis, 183]. The DNB article on Hubert is a notorious
    >> example. The family were modest Norfolk gentry - nothing very
    >> grand. [Ellis, C. *Hubert de Burgh: A Study in Constancy* (Phoenix >> House: London, 1952), 183-202] ' [1]
    >>
    >> The various de Burgh connections (de Boseville, William <-> Hubert,
    >> and Richard de Burgh <-> King Edward I) all deserve further study.
    >> Anything I might uncover will surely be passed along.
    >>
    >> Cheers,
    >>
    >> John
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> NOTES
    >> [1] Richard Borthwick, , SGM, 6 Nov 1998



    Ravilious email 15 Oct 2004 "Re: FW: de Burgh"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Whitesides email #2 23 June 2005."

Meinwerk (?) Bishop of Padeborn1

M, #67657
FatherImmed III (?) Count of Saxony1,2 d. 27 Jan 983
MotherAdela (?) von Hamaland und Frisia1 b. c 936
Last Edited2 Mar 2020

Citations

  1. [S1818] Janko Pavsic, "Pavsic email 20 Oct 2004 "Re: wife of Adalbert, Margrave of Austria?"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 20 Oct 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Pavsic email 20 Oct 2004."
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#Immeddied983. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

John Fitz Reynold Lord Fitz Reynold1

M, #67658
FatherSir Reginald (Reynold) Fitz Piers Lord of Blaen Llyfni, co. Brecknock1,2 b. 1208, d. 5 May 1285
MotherAlice/Amice de Stanford of Stanford Dingley, co. Berks1 d. a 1264
Last Edited7 Sep 2019
     ; per Ravilious, oldest son and heir, citing CP V:465, sub _FitzReynold_.1

Citations

  1. [S1820] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 22 Oct 2004 "Stanton FitzWarren, co. Wilts. and the Descendants of Sibyl Corbet"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 22 Oct 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 22 Oct 2004."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Reynold FitzPiers: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00075125&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Euphemia de Dunbar1

F, #67660
FatherPatrick de Dunbar 6th Earl of Dunbar1 b. b 13 Dec 1213, d. 24 Aug 1289
MotherCecilia FitzJohn1
Last Edited9 Oct 2005
     Euphemia de Dunbar married William Comyn of Kilbride, Lanark, son of David Comyn and Isabel de Valoins.1
     ; [Re-sent due to display errors in original SGM message]

Wednesday, 27 October, 2004


Dear MichaelAnne, et al.,

Your recent discovery and posts re: the identification of Isabel de
Dunbar, wife of (1) Roger fitz John of Warkworth, and (2) Simon Baard
(Bayard), and of her niece Euphemia (de Dunbar) (Comyn) Murray was extremely
interesting, and I think helpful in expanding on our knowledge of these
families.

In scouting about among the English and Scots nobility (not exclusive
designations) of the period for related possibilities, I noted the as yet
unidentified Euphemia, wife of William, Earl of Ross (d. 28 Jan 1322/3).
Earl William is well known for his career, both in support of King John
Baliol to and including the Battle of Dunbar in 1296 (he was imprisoned by
the English, 1296-1303), his capture of Queen Elizabeth (de Burgh) of Scots
and her party at Tain in 1306, and his eventual reconciliation with King
Robert before 1320 [1]. Concerning his wife Euphemia, virtually all we have
had to date is the statement in Scots Peerage that

" He died at Delny 28 January 1322-34, having married a lady named
Euphemia, who warmly supported the English party. " [2]

We know that Isabel de Dunbar, wife of Roger fitz John of Warkworth, had
a granddaughter named Euphemia (later wife of Ralph de Neville, Lord Neville
of Raby - see the chart below), whose name was clearly derived from Isabel's
mother Euphemia. It seems most likely that there was a nearer relation than
a great-grandmother who served as namesake for the young Euphemia de
Clavering. I suggest that this was Euphemia, Countess of Ross, whom I
identify as most likely a daughter of Isabel de Dunbar, on the strength of
the following:

1. Euphemia, wife of William Comyn of Kilbride, was clearly of the Dunbar
family (she is identified as a niece of Isabel de Dunbar, and grand-
daughter of Euphemia le Stewart), and her marriages are known. She
could not have been the wife of the Earl of Ross, and it is highly
unlikely we would find another daughter of Patrick, Earl of Dunbar
with the same name (a rare occurrence).

2. Several names are introduced into the family of the Earl of Ross
with the marriage of William and Euphemia:

A. Hugh, derived from the Baliol family (Hugh de Baliol of Bynam
was the maternal grandfather of Roger fitz John of Warkworth).
By this chart, Hugh de Eure was an uncle of Countess Euphemia;
and Euphemia named her eldest son Hugh (the future Earl of Ross
and brother in law of King Robert I of Scots).

B. John, a popular name in the Warkworth family. Euphemia is
shown as a granddaughter of John fitz Robert of Warkworth; her
nephew was Sir John de Clavering, whose name was not derived
from his mother's family (la Zouche). It is also possible that
John was named in part for Euphemia's alleged cousin John
Baliol, King of Scots, to whom William of Ross was so loyal.

C. Isabella, the name of Euphemia's probable mother Isabel de
Dunbar as shown below.

3. William, Earl of Ross was clearly aligned with the party of John
Baliol, and that of the Comyns. A grandson of William Comyn, Earl
of Buchan (d. 1233), he was closely related to the later. In
addition to his own career supporting John Baliol prior to
Bannockburn, his 2nd son John Ross was married to Margaret Comyn,
the younger coheiress of John Comyn, Earl of Buchan (daughter of
his brother Sir Alexander Comyn and not of the Earl, an error in
SP VII:235). If Euphemia was the daughter of Roger fitz John
and Isabel de Dunbar as shown, this would further explain
William's adherence to the Baliol party.

The following chart reflects the known and conjectured relationships
discussed above (the conjectured connections shown by broken
lines: _ _ _ _ _ _).



Robert fitz = Margaret HUGH de Baliol = CECILY de
Roger I de Chesney d. 1229 I Fontaines
I ____________________I__
I I I
Patrick = EUPHEMIA JOHN fitz = Ada JOHN de = Devorguilla
E of I Stewart Robert I de Baliol Baliol I of Galloway
Dunbar I _________I______ ______________I____________
______I_____ I I I I I I I I
I I I I I I I I I I
Patrick ISABEL = Roger fitz HUGH HUGH JOHN CECILY
E of de Dunbar I John of de dsp King
Dunbar I Warkworth Eure of Scots
= Cecilia I
I I_____________________________
_I________ _ _ _ _ ________________I _ _ _ _
I I I I I
Patrick John EUPHEMIA Robert fitz Roger EUPHEMIA = William
E of = 1)William of Warkworth d. 1310 I E of Ross
Dunbar Comyn of 1st Lord FitzRoger I d. 1322/3
Kilbride = Margery la Zouche I
I I
__________________I__ _____________________I____________
I I I I I I I
Sir JOHN de Clavering EUPHEMIA HUGH JOHN = ISABELLA Dorothea I
Lord Clavering = Ralph de E of Margaret affianced _____I
d. bef 1331/2 Neville of Ross Comyn to Edward I
Raby, d. 1331 k.1333 Bruce Walter
I I
I I
V V


Certainly documentation supporting (or disputing) the above, e.g.
charter references to relationships between the Earl of Ross' family and
those of Baliol or Warkworth, would go far in proving or disproving the
claimed connection.

Should anyone have such relevant documentation, comment or criticism,
that would be appreciated.

Cheers,

John *

NOTES

[1] SP VII:233-235, sub _The Ancient Earls of Ross_ .

[2] Ibid. p. 235, cites "Cal. Doc. Scot., ii. No. 920; also see Stevenson's
Hist. Docs., ii."1

Citations

  1. [S1822] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 28 Oct 2004 "Euphemia, Countess of Ross (was Re: Magna Carta line of Eufemia)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 28 Oct 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 28 Oct 2004."

Euphemia (?)1

F, #67661
FatherSir Hugh de Barclay Justician of Lothian2 d. 1258
Last Edited28 Oct 2020
     Euphemia (?) married William (?) 3rd Earl of Ross, son of William (?) 2nd Earl of Ross and Jean Comyn; her 1st husband.3,4,1 Euphemia (?) married Sir Andrew Murray; her 2nd husband.4
     ;      Wednesday, 27 October, 2004
     Dear MichaelAnne, et al.,
     Your recent discovery and posts re: the identification of Isabel de Dunbar, wife of (1) Roger fitz John of Warkworth, and (2) Simon Baard (Bayard), and of her niece Euphemia (de Dunbar) (Comyn) Murray was extremely interesting, and I think helpful in expanding on our knowledge of these families.
     In scouting about among the English and Scots nobility (not exclusive designations) of the period for related possibilities, I noted the as yet unidentified Euphemia, wife of William, Earl of Ross (d. 28 Jan 1322/3). Earl William is well known for his career, both in support of King John Baliol to and including the Battle of Dunbar in 1296 (he was imprisoned by the English, 1296-1303), his capture of Queen Elizabeth (de Burgh) of Scots and her party at Tain in 1306, and his eventual reconciliation with King Robert before 1320 [1]. Concerning his wife Euphemia, virtually all we have
had to date is the statement in Scots Peerage that " He died at Delny 28 January 1322-34, having married a lady named Euphemia, who warmly supported the English party. " [2]
     We know that Isabel de Dunbar, wife of Roger fitz John of Warkworth, had a granddaughter named Euphemia (later wife of Ralph de Neville, Lord Neville of Raby - see the chart below), whose name was clearly derived from Isabel's mother Euphemia. It seems most likely that there was a nearer relation than a great-grandmother who served as namesake for the young Euphemia de Clavering. I suggest that this was Euphemia, Countess of Ross, whom I identify as most likely a daughter of Isabel de Dunbar, on the strength of the following:
      1. Euphemia, wife of William Comyn of Kilbride, was clearly of the Dunbar family (she is identified as a niece of Isabel de Dunbar, and grand-daughter of Euphemia le Stewart), and her marriages are known. She could not have been the wife of the Earl of Ross, and it is highly unlikely we would find another daughter of Patrick, Earl of Dunbar with the same name (a rare occurrence).
     2. Several names are introduced into the family of the Earl of Ross with the marriage of William and Euphemia:
     A. Hugh, derived from the Baliol family (Hugh de Baliol of Bynam was the maternal grandfather of Roger fitz John of Warkworth). By this chart, Hugh de Eure was an uncle of Countess Euphemia; and Euphemia named her eldest son Hugh (the future Earl of Ross and brother in law of King Robert I of Scots).
     B. John, a popular name in the Warkworth family. Euphemia is shown as a granddaughter of John fitz Robert of Warkworth; her nephew was Sir John de Clavering, whose name was not derived from his mother's family (la Zouche). It is also possible that John was named in part for Euphemia's alleged cousin John Baliol, King of Scots, to whom William of Ross was so loyal.
     C. Isabella, the name of Euphemia's probable mother Isabel de Dunbar as shown below.
     3. William, Earl of Ross was clearly aligned with the party of John Baliol, and that of the Comyns. A grandson of William Comyn, Earl of Buchan (d. 1233), he was closely related to the later. In addition to his own career supporting John Baliol prior to Bannockburn, his 2nd son John Ross was married to Margaret Comyn, the younger coheiress of John Comyn, Earl of Buchan (daughter of his brother Sir Alexander Comyn and not of the Earl, an error in SP VII:235). If Euphemia was the daughter of Roger fitz John and Isabel de Dunbar as shown, this would further explain William's adherence to the Baliol party.
     The following chart reflects the known and conjectured relationships
discussed above (the conjectured connections shown by broken
lines: _ _ _ _ _ _).



Robert fitz = Margaret HUGH de Baliol = CECILY de
Roger I de Chesney d. 1229 I Fontaines
I ____________________I__
I I I
Patrick = EUPHEMIA JOHN fitz = Ada JOHN de = Devorguilla
E of I Stewart Robert I de Baliol Baliol I of Galloway
Dunbar I _________I______ ______________I____________
______I_____ I I I I I I I I
I I I I I I I I I I
Patrick ISABEL = Roger fitz HUGH HUGH JOHN CECILY
E of de Dunbar I John of de dsp King
Dunbar I Warkworth Eure of Scots
= Cecilia I
I I_____________________________
_I________ _ _ _ _ ________________I _ _ _ _
I I I I I
Patrick John EUPHEMIA Robert fitz Roger EUPHEMIA = William
E of = 1)William of Warkworth d. 1310 I E of Ross
Dunbar Comyn of 1st Lord FitzRoger I d. 1322/3
Kilbride = Margery la Zouche I
I I
__________________I__ _____________________I____________
I I I I I I I
Sir JOHN de Clavering EUPHEMIA HUGH JOHN = ISABELLA Dorothea I
Lord Clavering = Ralph de E of Margaret affianced _____I
d. bef 1331/2 Neville of Ross Comyn to Edward I
Raby, d. 1331 k.1333 Bruce Walter
I I
I I
V V

     Certainly documentation supporting (or disputing) the above, e.g. charter references to relationships between the Earl of Ross' family and those of Baliol or Warkworth, would go far in proving or disproving the claimed connection.
     Should anyone have such relevant documentation, comment or criticism, that would be appreciated.
     Cheers, John *
     NOTES
     [1] SP VII:233-235, sub _The Ancient Earls of Ross_ .
     [2] Ibid. p. 235, cites "Cal. Doc. Scot., ii. No. 920; also see Stevenson's
Hist. Docs., ii."3

; Ravilious [2004]hypothesizes that this Euphemia was the dau. of Isabel de Dunbar and Roger fitz John of Warkworth. Genealogics says that she was the dau. of Hugh de Barclay, Justiciar of Lothian, citing:
     1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald. vol I 190
     2. The Ancestry of Euphemia, Cts of Ross, Heraldry as Genealogical Evidence, The Scottish Genealogist, March 2008., Ravilious, John Paul.
Vol. LV, No 1, pp 33-38
It would seem that Ravilious changed his opinion between 2004 and 2008.3,1,5 Euphemia (?) was also known as Euphemia Fitz Roger.3

Family 1

Sir Andrew Murray

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Euphemia: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00056772&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Hugh de Barclay, Justiciar of Lothian: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00535759&tree=LEO
  3. [S1822] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 28 Oct 2004 "Euphemia, Countess of Ross (was Re: Magna Carta line of Eufemia)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 28 Oct 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 28 Oct 2004."
  4. [S2063] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 19 April 2006: "Re: de Clavering family"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 19 April 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 19 April 2006."
  5. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 23 Aug 2019; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."

John fitz William1

M, #67662
FatherWilliam (?) 3rd Earl of Ross1 d. 1323
MotherEuphemia (?)1
Last Edited9 Oct 2005
     John fitz William married Margaret Comyn.1

Family

Margaret Comyn

Citations

  1. [S1822] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 28 Oct 2004 "Euphemia, Countess of Ross (was Re: Magna Carta line of Eufemia)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 28 Oct 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 28 Oct 2004."

Dorothea (?) of Ross1

F, #67664
FatherWilliam (?) 3rd Earl of Ross1 d. 1323
MotherEuphemia (?)1
Last Edited9 Oct 2005

Citations

  1. [S1822] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 28 Oct 2004 "Euphemia, Countess of Ross (was Re: Magna Carta line of Eufemia)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 28 Oct 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 28 Oct 2004."

Walter fitz William1

M, #67665
FatherWilliam (?) 3rd Earl of Ross1 d. 1323
MotherEuphemia (?)1
Last Edited9 Oct 2005

Citations

  1. [S1822] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 28 Oct 2004 "Euphemia, Countess of Ross (was Re: Magna Carta line of Eufemia)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 28 Oct 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 28 Oct 2004."

Richard de Brus1

M, #67666, d. 1287
FatherSir Robert "the Competitor" de Brus 6th Lord of Anandale, Earl of Carrick1 b. 1210, d. 31 Mar 1295
MotherIsabella de Clare1,2,3 b. 8 Nov 1226, d. b 10 May 1275
Last Edited31 Aug 2008
     Richard de Brus died in 1287.2

Citations

  1. [S1826] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 Nov 2004 "The 'Turnberry Band' : A Genealogical Perspective"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 Nov 2004."
  2. [S2086] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 5 Aug 2006: "re: Eupheme de Brus"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 5 Aug 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 5 Aug 2006."
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabella de Clare: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027617&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Joan de Cornhill1

F, #67667
Last Edited10 Oct 2005
     Joan de Cornhill married Hugh de Neville of Hallingbury, Essex.

Citations

  1. [S1827] Doug Smith, "Smith email 8 Nov 2004 "Re: FW: CP and Joan de Septvans"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 8 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 8 Nov 2004."

Robert III de Septvans1

M, #67669, d. before 20 January 1253
FatherRobert II de Septvans2
MotherMaud (?)2
Last Edited10 Oct 2005
     Robert III de Septvans married Isabel (?)
Robert III de Septvans died before 20 January 1253.2

Family

Isabel (?)
Children

Citations

  1. [S1827] Doug Smith, "Smith email 8 Nov 2004 "Re: FW: CP and Joan de Septvans"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 8 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 8 Nov 2004."
  2. [S1828] Doug Smith, "Smith email 9 Nov 2004 "Re: FW: CP and Joan de Septvans"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 9 Nov 2004."

Alice Longford1

F, #67670
FatherSir Nicholas III Longford Knt., of Longford, Derbyshire1 b. c 1351, d. 31 Aug 1401
MotherMargery Sulney1
ReferenceGAV17
Last Edited28 Feb 2019
     Alice Longford married Sir Robert Neville Knt., of Rolleston, Nottinghamshire, son of Sir William Neville Knt., of Rolleston, Nottinghamshire and Elisabeth Fencote, in 1402; date of fine.1
     GAV-17.

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Longford 11: p. 461. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Longford 12: p. 461.

Sir John de Cobham of Blackborough1

M, #67671
FatherSir John de Cobham1 b. c 1240, d. b 30 Mar 1300
MotherJoan de Septvans1 b. c 1245
Last Edited10 Oct 2005
     Sir John de Cobham of Blackborough married Anne Bollay.2

Family

Anne Bollay

Citations

  1. [S1827] Doug Smith, "Smith email 8 Nov 2004 "Re: FW: CP and Joan de Septvans"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 8 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 8 Nov 2004."
  2. [S1828] Doug Smith, "Smith email 9 Nov 2004 "Re: FW: CP and Joan de Septvans"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 9 Nov 2004."

James de Cobham1

M, #67672
FatherSir John de Cobham1 b. c 1240, d. b 30 Mar 1300
MotherJoan de Septvans1 b. c 1245
Last Edited10 Oct 2005

Citations

  1. [S1827] Doug Smith, "Smith email 8 Nov 2004 "Re: FW: CP and Joan de Septvans"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 8 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 8 Nov 2004."

Margaret Baynard1

F, #67673, d. before 13 August 1295
FatherRobert Baynard1
Last Edited10 Oct 2005
     Margaret Baynard married Sir Henry de Cobham of Roundall and Alington, son of John de Cobham Sheriff of Kent and (?) Fitz Benedict; his 1st wife.1
Margaret Baynard died before 13 August 1295; dsp.1
     ; Margaret Baynard had an heir Sir Thomas de Filiol, aged 26, (son of Baldwin de Filiol), see Knights of Edward I, ed. Rev, C Moor, The Harleian Society, (1929), Vol. 2, p 26.1

Citations

  1. [S1827] Doug Smith, "Smith email 8 Nov 2004 "Re: FW: CP and Joan de Septvans"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 8 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 8 Nov 2004."

Robert Baynard1

M, #67674
Last Edited10 Oct 2005

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1827] Doug Smith, "Smith email 8 Nov 2004 "Re: FW: CP and Joan de Septvans"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 8 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 8 Nov 2004."

Robert II de Septvans1

M, #67675
Last Edited10 Oct 2005
     Robert II de Septvans married Maud (?)

Family

Maud (?)
Child

Citations

  1. [S1828] Doug Smith, "Smith email 9 Nov 2004 "Re: FW: CP and Joan de Septvans"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 9 Nov 2004."

Maud (?)1

F, #67676
Last Edited10 Oct 2005
     Maud (?) married Robert II de Septvans.

Family

Robert II de Septvans
Child

Citations

  1. [S1828] Doug Smith, "Smith email 9 Nov 2004 "Re: FW: CP and Joan de Septvans"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 9 Nov 2004."

Isabel (?)1

F, #67677
Last Edited10 Oct 2005
     Isabel (?) married Robert III de Septvans, son of Robert II de Septvans and Maud (?).

Family

Robert III de Septvans d. b 20 Jan 1253
Children

Citations

  1. [S1828] Doug Smith, "Smith email 9 Nov 2004 "Re: FW: CP and Joan de Septvans"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 9 Nov 2004."

Sir Robert IV de Septvans1

M, #67678, b. circa 1250, d. before 20 September 1306
FatherRobert III de Septvans1 d. b 20 Jan 1253
MotherIsabel (?)1
Last Edited10 Oct 2005
     Sir Robert IV de Septvans was born circa 1250.1
Sir Robert IV de Septvans died before 20 September 1306.1

Citations

  1. [S1828] Doug Smith, "Smith email 9 Nov 2004 "Re: FW: CP and Joan de Septvans"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 9 Nov 2004."

Eudes de Morville1

M, #67679
Last Edited10 Oct 2005

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1828] Doug Smith, "Smith email 9 Nov 2004 "Re: FW: CP and Joan de Septvans"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 9 Nov 2004."

Margaret de Cobham1

F, #67680, d. 21 July 1357
FatherSir Henry de Cobham Lord Cobham of Kent1 b. c 1260, d. 25 Aug 1339
MotherMaud de Morville1
Last Edited10 Oct 2005
     Margaret de Cobham died on 21 July 1357.1

Citations

  1. [S1828] Doug Smith, "Smith email 9 Nov 2004 "Re: FW: CP and Joan de Septvans"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 9 Nov 2004."