Richard de Say1
M, #15751
Father | Hugh de Say of Richards Castle1 b. b 1176, d. b 29 Sep 1190 |
Mother | Lucy (Lucia) de Clifford1 |
Last Edited | 13 Sep 2001 |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 221, de SAY 4:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
Agnes de Vendôme1,2
F, #15752, d. 1314
Last Edited | 21 Mar 2004 |
Agnes de Vendôme married Raoul I d'Harcourt Sire d'Avrilly, d'Auvers et des Planges, son of Richard (?) Sire d'Harcourt and Mathilde de la Roche-Tesson Dame de Saint-Sauveur-le-Vicomte en Cotentin et d'Anvers près Carentan.1,3,2
Agnes de Vendôme died in 1314.1,2
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: X 123.1
Agnes de Vendôme died in 1314.1,2
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: X 123.1
Family | Raoul I d'Harcourt Sire d'Avrilly, d'Auvers et des Planges d. 21 Dec 1307 |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnès de Vendôme: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00296535&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Harcourt 1 page (Harcourt family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/harcourt/harcourt1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raoul I d'Harcourt: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029065&tree=LEO
Loarn (?) King of Dál Riata1,2
M, #15753
Father | Ercc (?) King of Dalriada (No. Ireland)1 |
Last Edited | 7 Mar 2004 |
Loarn (?) King of Dál Riata was living in 500; LOARN fl 500. A prince of Dál Riata in Antrim and brother of FERGUS MOR who settled in the territories of Argyll and Kintyre in the late fifth century. Fergus, Loam and a third brother, Angus, divided the territory between them. Loam took the lands to the north of Argyll around Loch Linnhe, and this later extended into what became Moray. Descendants of Loam, starting with FERCHAR FOTA, later claimed the throne of Dál Riata in Argyll. His best known descendant was MACBETH.2
Family | |
Children |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 223, SCOTLAND 2:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York, NY: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 194, 722. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
- [S1361] Mike Ashley, Ashley (1998) - British Kings, pp. 194, 195.
- [S1361] Mike Ashley, Ashley (1998) - British Kings, p. 194.
Feldeln Foltchain1
F, #15754
Father | Brion Foltchain1 |
Reference | GAV43 EDV43 |
Last Edited | 20 Feb 2003 |
Feldeln Foltchain married Domangart Réti mac Fergusa (?) King of Dál Riata, son of Fergus Mór "the Great" (?) King of Dál Riata.1,2
GAV-43 EDV-43 GKJ-44.
; An Irish Princess.2
GAV-43 EDV-43 GKJ-44.
; An Irish Princess.2
Family | Domangart Réti mac Fergusa (?) King of Dál Riata d. bt 506 - 507 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 224, SCOTLAND 4. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York, NY: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 195, 197. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
Brion Foltchain1
M, #15755
Father | Eochaid Mugmedon1 |
Reference | GAV44 EDV44 |
Last Edited | 20 Feb 2003 |
GAV-44 EDV-44 GKJ-45.
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Child |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 224, SCOTLAND 4. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
Eochaid Mugmedon1
M, #15756
Reference | GAV45 EDV45 |
Last Edited | 20 Feb 2003 |
GAV-45 EDV-45 GKJ-46.
Family | |
Child |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 224, SCOTLAND 4. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
Lleian ferch Brychan1
F, #15757
Father | Brychan (?)2 |
Mother | Ingenach (?)3 |
Reference | GAV42 EDV42 |
Last Edited | 11 Aug 2020 |
Lleian ferch Brychan married Gabrán "The Treacherous" mac Domangairt (?) King of Dál Riata, son of Domangart Réti mac Fergusa (?) King of Dál Riata and Feldeln Foltchain.1,4
; Per Weis: “Grabran. He and his son are both called, in Welsh sources, "the treacherous." Welsh pedigrees make him a son of Dyfnwal Hen, allegedly of the line of Ceretic Guletic, regarded by later Weslh writes as an importnat rule in northern Britain. According to Welsh sources, his wige was Lleian, dau. of brychan, the ruler who gave his name to Brecknock.”.4 GAV-42 EDV-42 GKJ-43. Lleian ferch Brychan was also known as Lluan ferch Brychan.3
; Per Weis: “Grabran. He and his son are both called, in Welsh sources, "the treacherous." Welsh pedigrees make him a son of Dyfnwal Hen, allegedly of the line of Ceretic Guletic, regarded by later Weslh writes as an importnat rule in northern Britain. According to Welsh sources, his wige was Lleian, dau. of brychan, the ruler who gave his name to Brecknock.”.4 GAV-42 EDV-42 GKJ-43. Lleian ferch Brychan was also known as Lluan ferch Brychan.3
Family | Gabrán "The Treacherous" mac Domangairt (?) King of Dál Riata d. bt 558 - 559 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 224, SCOTLAND 5. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York, NY: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 195, 197. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
- [S1361] Mike Ashley, Ashley (1998) - British Kings, p. 185.
- [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 170-4, p. 146.. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
- [S1361] Mike Ashley, Ashley (1998) - British Kings, p. 195.
Bethóc (Beatrix) (?) of Scotland1,2
F, #15758, b. circa 975, d. 1045
Father | Máel Coluim (Malcolm) mac Cináeda II (?) King Of Scotland b. c 954, d. 25 Nov 1034; The Henry Project says "possible additional child"3,4,5,6,7,8 |
Mother | Ælfgifu “Edith of Ossory” Sigurdsdóttir (?)9 |
Reference | GAV26 |
Last Edited | 16 Dec 2020 |
Bethóc (Beatrix) (?) of Scotland was born circa 975.4 She married Crinán "the Thane" (?) mórmaer of Atholl, Abbot of Dunkeld, son of Duncan (?) mórmaer of Atholl, Lay Abbot of Dunkeld and (?) (?) of the Isles, circa 1000.10,11,9,12,4,5,13,14
Bethóc (Beatrix) (?) of Scotland died in 1045 at St Oran's Chapel Cemetery-the Reilig Ourain, Isle of Iona, Argyll and Bute, Scotland; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1 Aug 984, Perth and Kinross, Scotland
DEATH 1045 (aged 60–61), Isle of Iona, Argyll and Bute, Scotland
Born: between 975 and 983 in Atholl
Died: between 1045 and 1049
Parents: Malcolm II of Scotland
Spouse: Sigurd the Stout, Crínán of Dunkeld
Children: Duncan I of Scotland
Grandchildren: Malcolm III of Scotland, Donald III of Scotland, Máel Muire, Earl of Atholl
Family Members
Parents
Malcolm II, King of Scots 954–1034
Ælfgifu Sigurdsdóttir 962–983
Children
Duncan I 1001–1040
BURIAL St Oran's Chapel Cemetery-the Reilig Ourain, Isle of Iona, Argyll and Bute, Scotland
Created by: Gathering Roots
Added: 14 Mar 2016
Find a Grave Memorial 159485293.15
; Per Med Lands:
"CRINAN "the Thane", son of --- (-killed in battle 1045). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Abthane of Dule. Lay abbot of Dunkeld. Steward of the Western Isles. Mormaer of Atholl. He was killed fighting King Macbeth. The Annals of Ulster record that "Crónán abbot of Dún Caillen" was killed in 1045 in "a battle between the Scots themselves"[259]. The Annals of Tigernach record that “Crínan abbot of Dunkeld” was killed in 1045 in “a battle between the men of Scotland on one road”[260].
"m ([1000]) BETHOC, daughter of MALCOLM II King of Scotland & his wife ---. The "Genealogy of King William the Lyon" dated 1175 names "Betoch filii Malcolmi" as parent of "Malcolmi filii Dunecani"[261]. The Chronicle of the Scots and Picts dated 1177 names "Cran Abbatis de Dunkelden et Bethok filia Malcolm mac Kynnet" as parents of King Duncan[262]. The Chronicle of John of Fordun records that King Malcolm II had "an only daughter…Beatrice who married Crynyne Abthane of Dul and Steward of the Isles…in some annals, by a blunder of the writer…abbot of Dul"[263]."
Med Lands cites:
; This is the same person as Bethóc of Scotland at The Henry Project and as Bethóc at Wikipedia.12,16 GAV-26 EDV-26 GKJ-27.
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Genealogics:
"Bethóc ingen Mail Coluim meic Cináeda was the eldest daughter of Máel Coluim mac Cináeda, Malcolm II, king of Scots, who had no known sons. The strongest hereditary claim of succession to the Scottish throne therefore passed through Bethóc. In about 1000 she married Crinán, mormaer of Athole. The son of this marriage was Donnchad, who ascended to the throne of Scotland in 1034. Early writers have asserted that Máel Coluim also designated Donnchad as his successor under the rule of tanistry (a Gaelic system for passing on titles and lands), because there were other possible claimants to the throne."4 Bethóc (Beatrix) (?) of Scotland was also known as Bethóc ingen Mail Coluim meic Cináeda.4 Bethóc (Beatrix) (?) of Scotland was also known as Anleta.17 Bethóc (Beatrix) (?) of Scotland was also known as Donada.3,18
; Per Dunnett [1982], Donada and Bethoc are the same woman, who married three times (Crinan, Sigurd and Findlaech).9
; Per Genealogy.EU (MacAlpine): "H1. Bethoc, Lady of Atholl and heiress to Scotland, +after 1018; m.ca 1000 Crinan "the Thane", Lay Abbot of Dunkeld (*ca 975, +1045)"
Per Genealogy.EU (Dunkeld): "Crinan "the Thane", Mormaer of Atholl, Abthane of Dule, Steward of the Western Isles & Lay Abbot of Dunkeld, *ca 975, +k.a.Tayside by Macbeth 1045; m.ca 1000 Bethoc, Lady of Atholl (*ca 984, +after 1018.)19,20"
; Per Med Lands:
"BETHOC . The "Genealogy of King William the Lyon" dated 1175 names "Betoch filii Malcolmi" as parent of "Malcolmi filii Dunecani"[174]. The Chronicle of the Scots and Picts dated 1177 names "Cran Abbatis de Dunkelden et Bethok filia Malcolm mac Kynnet" as parents of King Duncan[175]. The Chronicle of John of Fordun records that King Malcolm II had "an only daughter…Beatrice who married Crynyne Abthane of Dul and Steward of the Isles…in some annals, by a blunder of the writer…abbot of Dul"[176]. Lady of Atholl.
"m ([1000]) CRINAN "the Thane" Mormaer of Atholl, son of --- (-killed in battle 1045)."
Med Lands cites:
Bethóc (Beatrix) (?) of Scotland died in 1045 at St Oran's Chapel Cemetery-the Reilig Ourain, Isle of Iona, Argyll and Bute, Scotland; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1 Aug 984, Perth and Kinross, Scotland
DEATH 1045 (aged 60–61), Isle of Iona, Argyll and Bute, Scotland
Born: between 975 and 983 in Atholl
Died: between 1045 and 1049
Parents: Malcolm II of Scotland
Spouse: Sigurd the Stout, Crínán of Dunkeld
Children: Duncan I of Scotland
Grandchildren: Malcolm III of Scotland, Donald III of Scotland, Máel Muire, Earl of Atholl
Family Members
Parents
Malcolm II, King of Scots 954–1034
Ælfgifu Sigurdsdóttir 962–983
Children
Duncan I 1001–1040
BURIAL St Oran's Chapel Cemetery-the Reilig Ourain, Isle of Iona, Argyll and Bute, Scotland
Created by: Gathering Roots
Added: 14 Mar 2016
Find a Grave Memorial 159485293.15
; Per Med Lands:
"CRINAN "the Thane", son of --- (-killed in battle 1045). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Abthane of Dule. Lay abbot of Dunkeld. Steward of the Western Isles. Mormaer of Atholl. He was killed fighting King Macbeth. The Annals of Ulster record that "Crónán abbot of Dún Caillen" was killed in 1045 in "a battle between the Scots themselves"[259]. The Annals of Tigernach record that “Crínan abbot of Dunkeld” was killed in 1045 in “a battle between the men of Scotland on one road”[260].
"m ([1000]) BETHOC, daughter of MALCOLM II King of Scotland & his wife ---. The "Genealogy of King William the Lyon" dated 1175 names "Betoch filii Malcolmi" as parent of "Malcolmi filii Dunecani"[261]. The Chronicle of the Scots and Picts dated 1177 names "Cran Abbatis de Dunkelden et Bethok filia Malcolm mac Kynnet" as parents of King Duncan[262]. The Chronicle of John of Fordun records that King Malcolm II had "an only daughter…Beatrice who married Crynyne Abthane of Dul and Steward of the Isles…in some annals, by a blunder of the writer…abbot of Dul"[263]."
Med Lands cites:
[259] Annals of Ulster, 1045.6, p. 484.
[260] Annals of Tigernach II, p. 277.
[261] Skene (1867), XXI, Genealogy of King William the Lyon, p. 144.
[262] Skene (1867), XXIII, Chronicle of the Scots and Picts 1177, p. 152.14
[260] Annals of Tigernach II, p. 277.
[261] Skene (1867), XXI, Genealogy of King William the Lyon, p. 144.
[262] Skene (1867), XXIII, Chronicle of the Scots and Picts 1177, p. 152.14
; This is the same person as Bethóc of Scotland at The Henry Project and as Bethóc at Wikipedia.12,16 GAV-26 EDV-26 GKJ-27.
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Burke's Guide to the Royal Family, London, 1973. 313.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:66, 89.4
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:66, 89.4
; Per Genealogics:
"Bethóc ingen Mail Coluim meic Cináeda was the eldest daughter of Máel Coluim mac Cináeda, Malcolm II, king of Scots, who had no known sons. The strongest hereditary claim of succession to the Scottish throne therefore passed through Bethóc. In about 1000 she married Crinán, mormaer of Athole. The son of this marriage was Donnchad, who ascended to the throne of Scotland in 1034. Early writers have asserted that Máel Coluim also designated Donnchad as his successor under the rule of tanistry (a Gaelic system for passing on titles and lands), because there were other possible claimants to the throne."4 Bethóc (Beatrix) (?) of Scotland was also known as Bethóc ingen Mail Coluim meic Cináeda.4 Bethóc (Beatrix) (?) of Scotland was also known as Anleta.17 Bethóc (Beatrix) (?) of Scotland was also known as Donada.3,18
; Per Dunnett [1982], Donada and Bethoc are the same woman, who married three times (Crinan, Sigurd and Findlaech).9
; Per Genealogy.EU (MacAlpine): "H1. Bethoc, Lady of Atholl and heiress to Scotland, +after 1018; m.ca 1000 Crinan "the Thane", Lay Abbot of Dunkeld (*ca 975, +1045)"
Per Genealogy.EU (Dunkeld): "Crinan "the Thane", Mormaer of Atholl, Abthane of Dule, Steward of the Western Isles & Lay Abbot of Dunkeld, *ca 975, +k.a.Tayside by Macbeth 1045; m.ca 1000 Bethoc, Lady of Atholl (*ca 984, +after 1018.)19,20"
; Per Med Lands:
"BETHOC . The "Genealogy of King William the Lyon" dated 1175 names "Betoch filii Malcolmi" as parent of "Malcolmi filii Dunecani"[174]. The Chronicle of the Scots and Picts dated 1177 names "Cran Abbatis de Dunkelden et Bethok filia Malcolm mac Kynnet" as parents of King Duncan[175]. The Chronicle of John of Fordun records that King Malcolm II had "an only daughter…Beatrice who married Crynyne Abthane of Dul and Steward of the Isles…in some annals, by a blunder of the writer…abbot of Dul"[176]. Lady of Atholl.
"m ([1000]) CRINAN "the Thane" Mormaer of Atholl, son of --- (-killed in battle 1045)."
Med Lands cites:
[174] Skene (1867), XXI, Genealogy of King William the Lyon, p. 144.
[175] Skene (1867), XXIII, Chronicle of the Scots and Picts 1177, p. 152.
[176] John of Fordun (Skene), Book IV, XXXVIII, p. 173.5
[175] Skene (1867), XXIII, Chronicle of the Scots and Picts 1177, p. 152.
[176] John of Fordun (Skene), Book IV, XXXVIII, p. 173.5
Family | Crinán "the Thane" (?) mórmaer of Atholl, Abbot of Dunkeld b. 970, d. 1045 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 225, SCOTLAND 21. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1842] Dorothy Dunnett, King Hereafter (New York: Vintage Books (Random House), 1982 (Oct. 1998)). Hereinafter cited as Dunnett (1982) King Hereafter.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 225, SCOTLAND 20:ii.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bethóc ingen Mail Coluim meic Cináeda: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022603&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#BethocMCrinanMormaerdied1045. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 15 December 2020), memorial page for Malcolm I King of Scots (897–954), Find a Grave Memorial no. 8618603, citing St. Oran's Chapel Cemetery-the Reilig Ourain, Isle of Iona, Argyll and Bute, Scotland; Maintained by Find A Grave, at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/8618603. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#_ftnref163
- [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Máel Coluim mac Cináeda (Malclom II): https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/malco001.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
- [S1842] Dorothy Dunnett, Dunnett (1982) King Hereafter, Appendix chart: Kings of Scotland (Alba) and Earls of Northumberland (England).
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Dunbar of Mochrum Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Dunkeld page (The House of Dunkeld): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/dunkeld.html
- [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/betho000.htm
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Crinán: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022602&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#Crinandied1045
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 08 July 2020), memorial page for Bethoc Ingen Mail Coluim Meic Cinaeda (1 Aug 984–1045), Find a Grave Memorial no. 159485293, citing St Oran's Chapel Cemetery-the Reilig Ourain, Isle of Iona, Argyll and Bute, Scotland; Maintained by Gathering Roots (contributor 47213048), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/159485293
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beth%C3%B3c. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I2863
- [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Máel Coluim mac Cináeda (Malclom II): http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/malco001.htm
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, The House of MacAlpine: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/macalpine.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, The House of Dunkeld: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/dunkeld.html
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#DuncanIdied1040B
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Swinton Family Page.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maldred, Lord of Allerdale, Regent of Strathclyde: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108330&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Maldreddied1045B
- [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 172-20, p. 164.. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
Sigurd II Lodvisonn 'Digri'/the Stout' (?) Jarl of Orkney, Lord of caithness1,2,3,4
M, #15759, b. circa 960, d. 23 April 1014
Father | Hlodvir Thorfinsson (?) Earl of Orkney5,6 b. c 946, d. c 988 |
Mother | Eithne (?)5,6 b. c 928 |
Reference | GAV33 |
Last Edited | 15 Dec 2020 |
Sigurd II Lodvisonn 'Digri'/the Stout' (?) Jarl of Orkney, Lord of caithness married Donada (?), daughter of Máel Coluim (Malcolm) mac Cináeda II (?) King Of Scotland and Ælfgifu “Edith of Ossory” Sigurdsdóttir (?).7,4
Sigurd II Lodvisonn 'Digri'/the Stout' (?) Jarl of Orkney, Lord of caithness was born circa 960 at Orkney, Scotland.8
Sigurd II Lodvisonn 'Digri'/the Stout' (?) Jarl of Orkney, Lord of caithness died on 23 April 1014 at Dublin, co. Cork, Ireland; slain at the Battle of Clontarf.8,3
GAV-33. Sigurd II Lodvisonn 'Digri'/the Stout' (?) Jarl of Orkney, Lord of caithness was also known as Sigurd II "Digri" Hlodversson Jarl of Orkney.8 He was Earl of Orkney: [Ashley, pp. 445-446] SIGURD II DIGRI (THE STOUT) earl of Orkney c987-1014. He was the only son of HLODVIR, but became one of the mightiest of the Orkney earls. The first few years were ones of either conquest, regaining lost lands or establishing authority. It happened rapidly for by 988 he was in battle against two Scottish earls who had killed his sister's husband, Havard, whom his father, Hldovir, had created steward of Caithness. Sigurd was victorious and reclaimed control over Caithness. He was subsequently challenged by FINDLAECH, the earl of Moray, whom Sigurd defeated at the second battle of Skidmoor about 995. Sigurd had needed the support of his tenant farmers but they refused to fight without the return of their rights of independence which had been denied them by EINAR (I) ninety years earlier. Sigurd used his powerful fleet to establish authority over the Hebrides down as far as Man, though in the latter case he did no more than exact tribute. He appointed his commander, Gilli, earl of the Hebrides and gave him his sister in marriage in about the year 990.
One of the most important and famous episodes in Sigurd's life was his conversion to Christianity, albeit superficially. In 995, Olaf Tryggvasson was returning from England (where he had been involved in raids with SWEIN FORK-BEARD) to take up the kingship of Norway. Olaf had been converted to Christianity by the English king ATHELRED, and as the incoming sovereign over the Orkneys he visited Sigurd and encouraged him to adopt christianity. It took some encouraging as Sigurd was a proud son of Odin, but Olaf tricked him by threatening to sacrifice his son Hundi unless Sigurd accepted the faith. Sigurd conceded, but Olaf still took Hundi as hostage to ensure Sigurd remained faithful. Unfortunately Hundi died soon after, and Sigurd dropped his allegiance both to Olaf and to the Christian faith. Instead Sigurd now looked to the new king of Scotland, MALCOLM II, as a possible ally. Malcolm saw the advantage of having a powerful partner to the north as they could squeeze between them the troublesome rulers of Moray, who laid claim to the Scottish throne. It also meant that Sigurd recognized Malcolm's authority over the mainland of Scotland, thus strengthening Malcolm's position. Soon after 1005 Malcolm granted Sigurd authority over Caithness, Sutherland and Ross (not that it was necessarily his to grant) and gave Sigurd his daughter Donada, probably in the year 1006. Donada was the wife of Findlaech and the mother of MACBETH. Such arrangements infuriated the mórmaers of Moray but at this stage they were powerless to do anything. The power and authority of Sigurd is attested to by the events at the end of his life. In 1013 he was approached by Sitric Silkenbeard, the Norse king of Dublin, for help in his battle against the Irish high king, Brian Bóru. Sitric promised that if they were victorious, Sigurd would become high king of Ireland. Sitric needed Sigurd's support because it brought with it a vast army and navy from the scattered islands of Scotland. The battle took place at Clontarf on 23 April 1014. The Irish were victorious even though Brian Bóru was killed. It put an end to Norse ambitions in Ireland, and it also saw the death of Sigurd. Although he left the major part of his lands to his sons by his first marriage, it was his son by the daughter of Malcolm II, THORFINN THE BLACK who was to prove the greatest of the Orkney earls. between 987 and 1014.2
Sigurd II Lodvisonn 'Digri'/the Stout' (?) Jarl of Orkney, Lord of caithness was born circa 960 at Orkney, Scotland.8
Sigurd II Lodvisonn 'Digri'/the Stout' (?) Jarl of Orkney, Lord of caithness died on 23 April 1014 at Dublin, co. Cork, Ireland; slain at the Battle of Clontarf.8,3
GAV-33. Sigurd II Lodvisonn 'Digri'/the Stout' (?) Jarl of Orkney, Lord of caithness was also known as Sigurd II "Digri" Hlodversson Jarl of Orkney.8 He was Earl of Orkney: [Ashley, pp. 445-446] SIGURD II DIGRI (THE STOUT) earl of Orkney c987-1014. He was the only son of HLODVIR, but became one of the mightiest of the Orkney earls. The first few years were ones of either conquest, regaining lost lands or establishing authority. It happened rapidly for by 988 he was in battle against two Scottish earls who had killed his sister's husband, Havard, whom his father, Hldovir, had created steward of Caithness. Sigurd was victorious and reclaimed control over Caithness. He was subsequently challenged by FINDLAECH, the earl of Moray, whom Sigurd defeated at the second battle of Skidmoor about 995. Sigurd had needed the support of his tenant farmers but they refused to fight without the return of their rights of independence which had been denied them by EINAR (I) ninety years earlier. Sigurd used his powerful fleet to establish authority over the Hebrides down as far as Man, though in the latter case he did no more than exact tribute. He appointed his commander, Gilli, earl of the Hebrides and gave him his sister in marriage in about the year 990.
One of the most important and famous episodes in Sigurd's life was his conversion to Christianity, albeit superficially. In 995, Olaf Tryggvasson was returning from England (where he had been involved in raids with SWEIN FORK-BEARD) to take up the kingship of Norway. Olaf had been converted to Christianity by the English king ATHELRED, and as the incoming sovereign over the Orkneys he visited Sigurd and encouraged him to adopt christianity. It took some encouraging as Sigurd was a proud son of Odin, but Olaf tricked him by threatening to sacrifice his son Hundi unless Sigurd accepted the faith. Sigurd conceded, but Olaf still took Hundi as hostage to ensure Sigurd remained faithful. Unfortunately Hundi died soon after, and Sigurd dropped his allegiance both to Olaf and to the Christian faith. Instead Sigurd now looked to the new king of Scotland, MALCOLM II, as a possible ally. Malcolm saw the advantage of having a powerful partner to the north as they could squeeze between them the troublesome rulers of Moray, who laid claim to the Scottish throne. It also meant that Sigurd recognized Malcolm's authority over the mainland of Scotland, thus strengthening Malcolm's position. Soon after 1005 Malcolm granted Sigurd authority over Caithness, Sutherland and Ross (not that it was necessarily his to grant) and gave Sigurd his daughter Donada, probably in the year 1006. Donada was the wife of Findlaech and the mother of MACBETH. Such arrangements infuriated the mórmaers of Moray but at this stage they were powerless to do anything. The power and authority of Sigurd is attested to by the events at the end of his life. In 1013 he was approached by Sitric Silkenbeard, the Norse king of Dublin, for help in his battle against the Irish high king, Brian Bóru. Sitric promised that if they were victorious, Sigurd would become high king of Ireland. Sitric needed Sigurd's support because it brought with it a vast army and navy from the scattered islands of Scotland. The battle took place at Clontarf on 23 April 1014. The Irish were victorious even though Brian Bóru was killed. It put an end to Norse ambitions in Ireland, and it also saw the death of Sigurd. Although he left the major part of his lands to his sons by his first marriage, it was his son by the daughter of Malcolm II, THORFINN THE BLACK who was to prove the greatest of the Orkney earls. between 987 and 1014.2
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Family 2 | Donada (?) |
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Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 225, SCOTLAND 20:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York, NY: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 439 (Chart 27), 445-446. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
- [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Máel Coluim mac Cináeda (Malclom II): http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/malco001.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sigurd II Lodvisonn 'Digri': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00381840&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1842] Dorothy Dunnett, King Hereafter (New York: Vintage Books (Random House), 1982 (Oct. 1998)), Appendix chart: Kings of Scotland (Alba) and Earls of Northumberland (England). Hereinafter cited as Dunnett (1982) King Hereafter.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#SigurdDigridied1014A. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Donada: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022613&tree=LEO
- [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I1268
- [S1361] Mike Ashley, Ashley (1998) - British Kings, p. 439 (Chart 27).
- [S1361] Mike Ashley, Ashley (1998) - British Kings, pp. 439 (Chart 27), 446.
- [S1361] Mike Ashley, Ashley (1998) - British Kings, pp. 439 (Chart 27), 446-447.
- [S1361] Mike Ashley, Ashley (1998) - British Kings, pp. 439 (Chart 27), 447.
- [S1842] Dorothy Dunnett, Dunnett (1982) King Hereafter, Appendix chart: Rulers of Orkney, Norway, Normandy and England.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, earl Thorfinn II 'Mighty': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022601&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#ThorfinnIIdied1065B
Anleda (?)1
F, #15760
Father | Máel Coluim (Malcolm) mac Cináeda II (?) King Of Scotland1 b. c 954, d. 25 Nov 1034 |
Last Edited | 4 Mar 2004 |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 225, SCOTLAND 20:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
Finn Arnesson (?) of Vrjar, Jarl of Halland1,2,3,4
M, #15761, b. circa 1000, d. between 1062 and 1065
Father | Arne Arnmodsson (?)5,6,4 |
Mother | Tora Torsteindatter (?)5,6 |
Reference | GAV27 |
Last Edited | 3 Dec 2020 |
Finn Arnesson (?) of Vrjar, Jarl of Halland married Thorberg/Bergliot Halvdansdottir (?) av Ringerike, daughter of Halfdan Sigurdsson (?).7,3,8,9,6,4,10,11
Finn Arnesson (?) of Vrjar, Jarl of Halland was born circa 1000.6
Finn Arnesson (?) of Vrjar, Jarl of Halland died between 1062 and 1065; Genealogy.EU says d. ca 1065; Med Lands says d. 1062.9,4
; Per Med Lands:
"THORBERG [Bergliot] Halfdansdatter ([1018/20-). Snorre names "Bergliot, a daughter of Halfdan…son of Sigurd Syr" as the wife of "Fin Arnason"[297]. Her birth date is estimated from the marriage date of her paternal grandparents, but bearing in mind the tight chronology for the birth of her daughter Ingebjörg. m FIN Arnesson, son of ARNE & his wife --- (-1062). Of Yriar in Austratt Lendermann Norway. Jarl of Halland in Denmark [1051]. Snorre names "Thorberg, Fin and Arne" as the sons of Arne[298]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Norway 2): “E1. Thorberg; m.Fin Arnesson, Jarl in Halland (+ca 1065)”.12
; Per Genealogics:
“Finn Arnesson was a Norwegian nobleman and advisor to kings Olav II and Harald III Sigurdsson Hardråde of Norway, and he later served King Svend IV Estridsen of Denmark. He was the feudal lord (Lendmann) of Austrått.
“Finn was one of the eight children, seven brothers and a sister, of Arne Arnmodsson, a feudal lord, and Tora Torsteindatter, daughter of Thorstein Galge (Gallows). Finn was married to King Harald III's niece Bergljot Halvansdotter av Ringerike, the daughter of Halfdan Sigurdsson. Their daughters Ingibiorg and Sigrid would have progeny. Ingibiorg married first Thorfinn II, earl of Caithness, jarl of Orkney, then Máel Coluim mac Donnchada, Malcolm III Canmore, king of Scots. Sigrid married Orm Eilivsonn, jarl av Oplandene.
“The main source for Finn's life is the _Heimskringla_ saga by the Icelandic historian, poet, and politician Snorri Sturluson (1179-1241). Finn and his brothers Kalv, Arni and Thorberg all appear in the saga. Snorri described an episode where Finn, on King Olav's behalf, demanded of Thorir Hund, one of the greatest chiefs in Hålgoland, that he atone for the murder of Karle, one of the king's courtiers.
“In 1028 Finnand his brothers Arni and Thorberg, together with Rognvald Brusason, went with King Olav into exile in Kievan Rus'. They returned with him and fought for him at the Battle of Stiklestad in 1030, where Olav was killed.
“Under King Olav's successor Harald III Sigurdsson Hardråde, Finn held the manor and lands of Austrått near Orland in Trondelag. In 1051 his brother Kalv was killed in battle, serving King Harald on the island of Funen. Finn believed Harald had sent Kalv to his death and turned against the king. He left for Denmark to serve Svend IV Estridsen, who made him a jarl and appointed him to rule Halland.
“In 1062 Finn fought in the Battle of Nissan of the coast of Halland between Svend IV Estridsen and Harald III Sigurdsson Hardråde. King Harald was victorious and King Svend IV escaped. However Finn, who refused to flee, was captured. Harald spared his life and set him free in Halland.
“Finn died about 1065.”.6 Finn Arnesson (?) of Vrjar, Jarl of Halland was also known as Earl Finn Arnason.13
; This is the same person as ”Finn Árnasson” at Wikipedia and as ”Finn Arnesson” at Wikipedia (NO).14,15
Reference: Genealogics cites: Burke's Guide to the Royal Family London, 1973 , Reference: 313.6 GAV-27.
; Per Med Lands:
"FIN Arnesson (-1062). Snorre names "Thorberg, Fin and Arne" as the sons of Arne[27]. Of Yriar in Austratt Lendermann Norway. Morkinskinna records that “Finnr Árnason” left Norway for Denmark where “King Sveinn gave him a jarldom and a great fief”, dated to the early 1050s from the context[28]. Jarl of Halland in Denmark [1051].
"m THORBERG [Bergliot] Halfdansdatter, daughter of HALFDAN Sigurdsson & his wife --- ([1018/20]-). Snorre names "Bergliot, a daughter of Halfdan…son of Sigurd Syr" as the wife of "Fin Arnason"[29]. Her birth date is estimated from the marriage date of her paternal grandparents, but bearing in mind the tight chronology for the birth of her daughter Ingebjörg."
Med Lands cites:
Finn Arnesson (?) of Vrjar, Jarl of Halland was born circa 1000.6
Finn Arnesson (?) of Vrjar, Jarl of Halland died between 1062 and 1065; Genealogy.EU says d. ca 1065; Med Lands says d. 1062.9,4
; Per Med Lands:
"THORBERG [Bergliot] Halfdansdatter ([1018/20-). Snorre names "Bergliot, a daughter of Halfdan…son of Sigurd Syr" as the wife of "Fin Arnason"[297]. Her birth date is estimated from the marriage date of her paternal grandparents, but bearing in mind the tight chronology for the birth of her daughter Ingebjörg. m FIN Arnesson, son of ARNE & his wife --- (-1062). Of Yriar in Austratt Lendermann Norway. Jarl of Halland in Denmark [1051]. Snorre names "Thorberg, Fin and Arne" as the sons of Arne[298]."
Med Lands cites:
[297] Snorre, King Harald's Saga Part I, 46.
[298] Snorre, Saga of Olaf Haraldson Part VII, 190.11
[298] Snorre, Saga of Olaf Haraldson Part VII, 190.11
; Per Genealogy.EU (Norway 2): “E1. Thorberg; m.Fin Arnesson, Jarl in Halland (+ca 1065)”.12
; Per Genealogics:
“Finn Arnesson was a Norwegian nobleman and advisor to kings Olav II and Harald III Sigurdsson Hardråde of Norway, and he later served King Svend IV Estridsen of Denmark. He was the feudal lord (Lendmann) of Austrått.
“Finn was one of the eight children, seven brothers and a sister, of Arne Arnmodsson, a feudal lord, and Tora Torsteindatter, daughter of Thorstein Galge (Gallows). Finn was married to King Harald III's niece Bergljot Halvansdotter av Ringerike, the daughter of Halfdan Sigurdsson. Their daughters Ingibiorg and Sigrid would have progeny. Ingibiorg married first Thorfinn II, earl of Caithness, jarl of Orkney, then Máel Coluim mac Donnchada, Malcolm III Canmore, king of Scots. Sigrid married Orm Eilivsonn, jarl av Oplandene.
“The main source for Finn's life is the _Heimskringla_ saga by the Icelandic historian, poet, and politician Snorri Sturluson (1179-1241). Finn and his brothers Kalv, Arni and Thorberg all appear in the saga. Snorri described an episode where Finn, on King Olav's behalf, demanded of Thorir Hund, one of the greatest chiefs in Hålgoland, that he atone for the murder of Karle, one of the king's courtiers.
“In 1028 Finnand his brothers Arni and Thorberg, together with Rognvald Brusason, went with King Olav into exile in Kievan Rus'. They returned with him and fought for him at the Battle of Stiklestad in 1030, where Olav was killed.
“Under King Olav's successor Harald III Sigurdsson Hardråde, Finn held the manor and lands of Austrått near Orland in Trondelag. In 1051 his brother Kalv was killed in battle, serving King Harald on the island of Funen. Finn believed Harald had sent Kalv to his death and turned against the king. He left for Denmark to serve Svend IV Estridsen, who made him a jarl and appointed him to rule Halland.
“In 1062 Finn fought in the Battle of Nissan of the coast of Halland between Svend IV Estridsen and Harald III Sigurdsson Hardråde. King Harald was victorious and King Svend IV escaped. However Finn, who refused to flee, was captured. Harald spared his life and set him free in Halland.
“Finn died about 1065.”.6 Finn Arnesson (?) of Vrjar, Jarl of Halland was also known as Earl Finn Arnason.13
; This is the same person as ”Finn Árnasson” at Wikipedia and as ”Finn Arnesson” at Wikipedia (NO).14,15
Reference: Genealogics cites: Burke's Guide to the Royal Family London, 1973 , Reference: 313.6 GAV-27.
; Per Med Lands:
"FIN Arnesson (-1062). Snorre names "Thorberg, Fin and Arne" as the sons of Arne[27]. Of Yriar in Austratt Lendermann Norway. Morkinskinna records that “Finnr Árnason” left Norway for Denmark where “King Sveinn gave him a jarldom and a great fief”, dated to the early 1050s from the context[28]. Jarl of Halland in Denmark [1051].
"m THORBERG [Bergliot] Halfdansdatter, daughter of HALFDAN Sigurdsson & his wife --- ([1018/20]-). Snorre names "Bergliot, a daughter of Halfdan…son of Sigurd Syr" as the wife of "Fin Arnason"[29]. Her birth date is estimated from the marriage date of her paternal grandparents, but bearing in mind the tight chronology for the birth of her daughter Ingebjörg."
Med Lands cites:
[27] Snorre, Saga of Olaf Haraldson Part VII, 190.
[28] Morkinskinna, 35, p. 211.
[29] Snorre, King Harald's Saga Part I, 46.4
[28] Morkinskinna, 35, p. 211.
[29] Snorre, King Harald's Saga Part I, 46.4
Family | Thorberg/Bergliot Halvdansdottir (?) av Ringerike b. c 1018 |
Children |
Citations
- [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe (New York, NY: Barnes & Noble Books, 2002), Table 12: Scotland: Kings until the accession of Robert Bruce. Hereinafter cited as Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Dunkeld page (The House of Dunkeld): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/dunkeld.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Finn Arnesson of Vrjar: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022598&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORWEGIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc189913822. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1842] Dorothy Dunnett, King Hereafter (New York: Vintage Books (Random House), 1982 (Oct. 1998)), Appendix chart: Rulers of Orkney, Norway, Normandy and England. Hereinafter cited as Dunnett (1982) King Hereafter.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Finn Arnesson, of Vrjar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022598&tree=LEO
- [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York, NY: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), p. 448 (Chart 28). Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bergljot: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022599&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Norway 2 page - Yngling Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/scand/norway2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bergljot Halvdansdottir av Ringerike: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022599&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORWAY.htm#ThorbergHalfdansdMFinArnessondied1062
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Norway 2: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/scand/norway2.html
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 226, SCOTLAND 23. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finn_%C3%81rnasson. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S4784] Wikipedia - Det frie oppslagsverket, online https://nn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hovudside, Finn Arnesson: https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finn_Arnesson. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia (NO).
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Norway 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/scand/norway4.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ingibiorg Finnsdottir av Austraat og Halland: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022597&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORWEGIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#IngborgFinnsdM1ThorfinIIM2MalcolmIIIScot
Eilifr (?)1
M, #15762
Father | Jarl Thorkill Sprakalaeg (?)1,2 d. 1019 |
Last Edited | 8 Aug 2020 |
; ruler of Lower Severn, England.1
Citations
- [S1842] Dorothy Dunnett, King Hereafter (New York: Vintage Books (Random House), 1982 (Oct. 1998)), Appendix chart: Rulers of Norway and Denmark. Hereinafter cited as Dunnett (1982) King Hereafter.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/DENMARK.htm#_Toc481342014. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Donald (?)1,2
M, #15763, b. between 1060 and 1065, d. 1085
Father | Máel-Coluim (Malcolm III) mac Donnchada "Canmore") (?) King of Scotland (Alba)1,2,3,4,5 b. 1031, d. 13 Nov 1093 |
Mother | Ingibiorg Finnsdottir av Austraat og Halland (?) b. c 1030; per Henry Project: "possibly by Ingibjorg Finnsdóttir: MALE Domnall (Donald), d. 1085. [AU; ESSH 2: 47, 160] Since he does not appear among the known children of Malcolm and Margaret, and placing him as a son of Margaret would be chronologically unlikely, it is usually presumed that he was a son of Ingibjorg. However, it cannot be ruled out that Donald was the son of an unknown earlier marriage."1,2,3,6,5 |
Last Edited | 3 Dec 2020 |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 226, SCOTLAND 23:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Dunkeld page (The House of Dunkeld): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/dunkeld.html
- [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/malco002.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Máel Coluim mac Donnchada: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00002904&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#MalcolmIIIdied1093B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ingibiorg Finnsdottir av Austraat og Halland: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022597&tree=LEO
Edmund Canmore Prince of Cumbria, co-King of Scotland1,2
M, #15764, b. circa 1071, d. after 1100
Father | Máel-Coluim (Malcolm III) mac Donnchada "Canmore") (?) King of Scotland (Alba)1,2,3,4 b. 1031, d. 13 Nov 1093 |
Mother | Saint Margaret (?) Queen of Scotland1,5,4,6 b. c 1045, d. 16 Nov 1093 |
Last Edited | 3 Dec 2020 |
Edmund Canmore Prince of Cumbria, co-King of Scotland was born circa 1071.7
Edmund Canmore Prince of Cumbria, co-King of Scotland died after 1100 at Montague, co. Somerset, England; Boyer (p. 226) says d. after 1097.1,8,2
; [Ashley, pp. 401-402] EDMUND southern Scotland, 12 November 1094-October 1097. Edmund was the second son of Malcolm and his English wife Margaret, hence his Saxon name. He had probably never considered becoming king, since he had an elder brother and two elder half-brothers. It seems, though, that he had been created prince of Cumbria in his youth. This may have given him an air of superiority. Since he cannot have been born much before 1071, the title may not have been bestowed until his coming of age in 1086 or so. All three of Edmund's elder brothers had died by 1094, and with the death of the third, DUNCAN II, in November, Edmund was promoted to the kingship as part of an arrangement with his uncle DONALD III. Edmund was seen as acceptable by the Normans and was made king of Scotland south of the Clyde, whilst Donald ruled the Highlands. This arrangement was short-lived. Edmund incurred the wrath of William Rufus of England (WILLIAM II) by encouraging the rebellion of the earl of Northumberland and, in 1095, William nominated Edmund's brother, EDGAR, as king. With William's support, Edgar raised an army and defeated and deposed both Donald and Edmund. Whilst Donald was imprisoned, Edmund was despatched to Montacute Abbey in Somerset, where he became a monk. There is no record of his death, but he could have lived well into his sixties, dying sometime in the 1 130s. He was probably buried at Montacute Abbey.7
; Edmund, Prince of Cumbria, co-King of Scotland (1094-97), after being deposed in V.1097 he became a monk at Montacute Abbey, *ca 1072, +after 1100, bur Montacute Abbey.2 He was co-King of Scotland between 1094 and 1097.2 He was a monk in 1097 at Montacute Abbey.2
Edmund Canmore Prince of Cumbria, co-King of Scotland died after 1100 at Montague, co. Somerset, England; Boyer (p. 226) says d. after 1097.1,8,2
; [Ashley, pp. 401-402] EDMUND southern Scotland, 12 November 1094-October 1097. Edmund was the second son of Malcolm and his English wife Margaret, hence his Saxon name. He had probably never considered becoming king, since he had an elder brother and two elder half-brothers. It seems, though, that he had been created prince of Cumbria in his youth. This may have given him an air of superiority. Since he cannot have been born much before 1071, the title may not have been bestowed until his coming of age in 1086 or so. All three of Edmund's elder brothers had died by 1094, and with the death of the third, DUNCAN II, in November, Edmund was promoted to the kingship as part of an arrangement with his uncle DONALD III. Edmund was seen as acceptable by the Normans and was made king of Scotland south of the Clyde, whilst Donald ruled the Highlands. This arrangement was short-lived. Edmund incurred the wrath of William Rufus of England (WILLIAM II) by encouraging the rebellion of the earl of Northumberland and, in 1095, William nominated Edmund's brother, EDGAR, as king. With William's support, Edgar raised an army and defeated and deposed both Donald and Edmund. Whilst Donald was imprisoned, Edmund was despatched to Montacute Abbey in Somerset, where he became a monk. There is no record of his death, but he could have lived well into his sixties, dying sometime in the 1 130s. He was probably buried at Montacute Abbey.7
; Edmund, Prince of Cumbria, co-King of Scotland (1094-97), after being deposed in V.1097 he became a monk at Montacute Abbey, *ca 1072, +after 1100, bur Montacute Abbey.2 He was co-King of Scotland between 1094 and 1097.2 He was a monk in 1097 at Montacute Abbey.2
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 226, SCOTLAND 23:iv. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Dunkeld page (The House of Dunkeld): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/dunkeld.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Máel Coluim mac Donnchada: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00002904&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#MalcolmIIIdied1093B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Malcolm III Canmore: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00002904&tree=LEO&PHPSESSID=4a6f1218fb877cf1c08e71441357136e
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, St. Margaret of Wessex: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00002905&tree=LEO
- [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York, NY: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 397, 401-402. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
- [S1361] Mike Ashley, Ashley (1998) - British Kings, p. 397.
Ethelred (?) Earl of Fife, Abbot of Dunkeld1,2
M, #15765, d. circa 1097
Father | Máel-Coluim (Malcolm III) mac Donnchada "Canmore") (?) King of Scotland (Alba)1,2,3,4 b. 1031, d. 13 Nov 1093 |
Mother | Saint Margaret (?) Queen of Scotland1,5,4,6 b. c 1045, d. 16 Nov 1093 |
Last Edited | 3 Dec 2020 |
Ethelred (?) Earl of Fife, Abbot of Dunkeld was born circa 1084.2
Ethelred (?) Earl of Fife, Abbot of Dunkeld died circa 1097.2
; Ethelred, Lay Abbot of Dunkeld, *ca 1084, +ca 1097, bur Kilremont Church.2
Ethelred (?) Earl of Fife, Abbot of Dunkeld died circa 1097.2
; Ethelred, Lay Abbot of Dunkeld, *ca 1084, +ca 1097, bur Kilremont Church.2
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 226, SCOTLAND 23:vii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Dunkeld page (The House of Dunkeld): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/dunkeld.html
- [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 170-20, op. 161-2. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#MalcolmIIIdied1093B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Malcolm III Canmore: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00002904&tree=LEO&PHPSESSID=4a6f1218fb877cf1c08e71441357136e. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, St. Margaret of Wessex: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00002905&tree=LEO
Reynold de Lucy1
M, #15766, d. 11 January 1199
Father | NN de Lucy2 b. 1090 |
Mother | Avelina (?)2 b. 1070 |
Last Edited | 13 Sep 2020 |
Reynold de Lucy married Amabel Fitz William Heiress of Egremont and Copeland, daughter of William Fitz Duncan Earl of Moray, Lord of Skipton and Alice de Rumilly Lady of Skipton, before 1162.1,3,2,4,5
Reynold de Lucy died on 11 January 1199; Genealogics says d. 1199/1200.6,3,2
; Per Genealogy.EU: "E3. Amabel FitzDuncan; m.Reginald de Lucy (+1079.)7"
; Per Med Lands:
"AMABEL (-before 1201). The Cronicon Cumbriæ names “prima…Cecilia…secunda Amabilla…tertia Alicia” as the three daughters of “Willielmus”, son of “Doncani comes de Murrayse”, and his wife Alice, adding that Amabel received the honor of Egremont and married “Reginaldo de Lucy”, by whom he fathered “Amabillam et Aliciam, et successit Amabillæ Lambertus de Multon”, the latter being succeeded by “Thomas de Multon de Egremond”[711]. Co-heiress of her brother. Lady of Egremont and Copeland. The Testa de Nevill includes a writ of King John dated 1212 which records that "Robertus de Stutevill" held "villam de Thorpennoi de domino rege" in Cumberland which was "de baronia Alicie de Rumill" and that "Reginaldus de Lucy" had held the land "cum sorore predicte Alicie" and refused homage to "Philippi de Valoines, antecessoris predicti Roberti et uxoris sue"[712].
"m (before 1162) REYNOLD de Lucy, [713][relative of RICHARD de Lucy, Justiciar of England] (-[1199/1200]). Keeper of Nottingham castle when it was burnt by Earl Ferrers in the rebellion of 1174[714]."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites:
Reynold de Lucy died on 11 January 1199; Genealogics says d. 1199/1200.6,3,2
; Per Genealogy.EU: "E3. Amabel FitzDuncan; m.Reginald de Lucy (+1079.)7"
; Per Med Lands:
"AMABEL (-before 1201). The Cronicon Cumbriæ names “prima…Cecilia…secunda Amabilla…tertia Alicia” as the three daughters of “Willielmus”, son of “Doncani comes de Murrayse”, and his wife Alice, adding that Amabel received the honor of Egremont and married “Reginaldo de Lucy”, by whom he fathered “Amabillam et Aliciam, et successit Amabillæ Lambertus de Multon”, the latter being succeeded by “Thomas de Multon de Egremond”[711]. Co-heiress of her brother. Lady of Egremont and Copeland. The Testa de Nevill includes a writ of King John dated 1212 which records that "Robertus de Stutevill" held "villam de Thorpennoi de domino rege" in Cumberland which was "de baronia Alicie de Rumill" and that "Reginaldus de Lucy" had held the land "cum sorore predicte Alicie" and refused homage to "Philippi de Valoines, antecessoris predicti Roberti et uxoris sue"[712].
"m (before 1162) REYNOLD de Lucy, [713][relative of RICHARD de Lucy, Justiciar of England] (-[1199/1200]). Keeper of Nottingham castle when it was burnt by Earl Ferrers in the rebellion of 1174[714]."
Med Lands cites:
[711] Dugdale Monasticon III, Wetherall Priory, Cumberland, XVI, Cronicon Cumbriæ, p. 585.
[712] Testa de Nevill, Part I, p. 198.
[713] CP VIII 247.
[714] CP VIII 247.5
Reynold de Lucy was also known as Reginald de Lucy.3 [712] Testa de Nevill, Part I, p. 198.
[713] CP VIII 247.
[714] CP VIII 247.5
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: 154.
2. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to Amercia bef.1700 7th Edition, Frederick Lewis Weis, Reference: 43.3
2. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to Amercia bef.1700 7th Edition, Frederick Lewis Weis, Reference: 43.3
Family | Amabel Fitz William Heiress of Egremont and Copeland d. c 1201 |
Children |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 227, SCOTLAND 26:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3L-O.htm#ReynaldLucydied1199. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Reginald de Lucy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076190&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Amabel FitzWilliam: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076188&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#Amabeldiedbefore1201
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 40-26, p. 43. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, The House of Dunkeld: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/dunkeld.html
- [S1840] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #2 23 Nov 2004 "Re: Morville - Stuteville question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #2 23 Nov 2004."
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3L-O.htm#LucyMEudesDammartin
Maurice de Gant (Berkeley)1
M, #15767
Father | Robert fitz Robert fitz Harding2 |
Mother | Avice de Gaunt2 |
Last Edited | 12 Nov 2006 |
Maurice de Gant (Berkeley) married Margaret Marshal, daughter of John Marshal and Sibylle de Salisbury.1
; per Richardson: [quote] Yes, Maurice de Gaunt was the son of Avice de Gaunt. Avice de Gaunt was the daughter of Robert de Gaunt, of Folkingham, Lincolnshire (died 1191), by his 1st wife, Alice Paynell. [end quote]3
; per Richardson: [quote] Yes, Maurice de Gaunt was the son of Avice de Gaunt. Avice de Gaunt was the daughter of Robert de Gaunt, of Folkingham, Lincolnshire (died 1191), by his 1st wife, Alice Paynell. [end quote]3
Family | Margaret Marshal d. a 1242 |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 227, de SOMERY 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1985] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 22 Oct 2005: "More Gaunt children: Stephen de Gaunt and Ellen de Gaunt, wife of Walter the Chamberlain"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 22 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 22 Oct 2005."
- [S1986] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 23 Oct 2005: "More Gaunt children: Stephen de Gaunt and Ellen de Gaunt, wife of Walter the Chamberlain"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 23 Oct 2005."
William Perceval1
M, #15768, d. 1222
Father | Sir Ralph de Somery Lord of Dudley, co. Worcester1 d. c 1211 |
Mother | Margaret Marshal1 d. a 1242 |
Last Edited | 13 Sep 2001 |
William Perceval died in 1222.1
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 227, de SOMERY 2:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
Ralph de Somery1
M, #15769, d. circa 1253
Father | Roger de Somery Lord Dudley, co. Worcester1 d. b 26 Aug 1273 |
Mother | Nichole d'Aubigny1 |
Last Edited | 13 Sep 2001 |
Ralph de Somery died circa 1253.1
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 228, de SOMERY 3:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
Mabel de Somery1
F, #15770
Father | Roger de Somery Lord Dudley, co. Worcester1,2 d. b 26 Aug 1273 |
Mother | Nichole d'Aubigny1,2 |
Last Edited | 25 Mar 2003 |
Family | Walter de Sulley d. 1288 |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 228, de SOMERY 3:iv. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
Walter de Sulley1
M, #15771, d. 1288
Last Edited | 13 Sep 2001 |
Walter de Sulley married Mabel de Somery, daughter of Roger de Somery Lord Dudley, co. Worcester and Nichole d'Aubigny.1,2
Walter de Sulley died in 1288.1
Walter de Sulley died in 1288.1
Family | Mabel de Somery |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 228, de SOMERY 3:iv. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
Maud de Somery1
F, #15772
Father | Roger de Somery Lord Dudley, co. Worcester1,2 d. b 26 Aug 1273 |
Mother | Nichole d'Aubigny1,2 |
Last Edited | 25 Mar 2003 |
Maud de Somery married Sir Henry de Erdington.1,2,3
Maud de Somery married William Byfield in 1286.1
Maud de Somery married William Byfield in 1286.1
Family 1 | Sir Henry de Erdington d. 1282 |
Family 2 | William Byfield d. 1302 |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 228, de SOMERY 3:v. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Edrington - Baron Edrington, pp. 186-6.
Sir Henry de Erdington1,2
M, #15773, d. 1282
Last Edited | 19 May 2003 |
Sir Henry de Erdington married Maud de Somery, daughter of Roger de Somery Lord Dudley, co. Worcester and Nichole d'Aubigny.1,3,2
Sir Henry de Erdington died in 1282.1
; "Henry de Edrington, who m. Maud, one of the daus., and eventually co-heiresses of Roger de Someri, Baron of Dudley; and also one of the co-heirs of Nichola, dau. and co-heir of Hugh Albini, Earl of Arundel, and dying in the 10th Edward I., was s. by his son, Henry de Edrington..."2 Sir Henry de Erdington was also known as Henry de Edrington.2
Sir Henry de Erdington died in 1282.1
; "Henry de Edrington, who m. Maud, one of the daus., and eventually co-heiresses of Roger de Someri, Baron of Dudley; and also one of the co-heirs of Nichola, dau. and co-heir of Hugh Albini, Earl of Arundel, and dying in the 10th Edward I., was s. by his son, Henry de Edrington..."2 Sir Henry de Erdington was also known as Henry de Edrington.2
Family | Maud de Somery |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 228, de SOMERY 3:v. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Edrington - Baron Edrington, pp. 186-6.. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), p. 3.
William Byfield1
M, #15774, d. 1302
Last Edited | 13 Sep 2001 |
William Byfield married Maud de Somery, daughter of Roger de Somery Lord Dudley, co. Worcester and Nichole d'Aubigny, in 1286.1
William Byfield died in 1302.1
William Byfield died in 1302.1
Family | Maud de Somery |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 228, de SOMERY 3:v. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
John Perseval1
M, #15775
Father | Roger de Somery Lord Dudley, co. Worcester1 d. b 26 Aug 1273 |
Mother | Amabil/Annabelle de Chaucombe1 d. c 1278 |
Last Edited | 13 Sep 2001 |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 228, de SOMERY 3:vii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
Robert de Somery1,2
M, #15776
Father | Roger de Somery Lord Dudley, co. Worcester2 d. b 26 Aug 1273 |
Mother | Amabil/Annabelle de Chaucombe2 d. c 1278 |
Last Edited | 13 Sep 2001 |
Citations
- Possible son.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 228, de SOMERY 3:vii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
(?) de Langley1
F, #15777
Father | Geoffrey de Langley of Bisseley and Pinley, co. Warwicks.1,2,3 b. b 1237, d. 1274 |
Mother | Matilda/Maud de Brightwell3 |
Reference | GAV19 EDV21 |
Last Edited | 17 Jan 2007 |
(?) de Langley married Nicholas de Stafford, son of Robert de Stafford and Alice Corbet, circa 1272.1,2,3
; per Powys-Lybbe: [quote] If you don't have CP, you will not know that it says she was "probably da. of Geoffrey de Langley", Vol XII/1, p. 172 incl note (l). There is no correction to this either in Vol XIV or on Chris Phillips' site. [end quote]4
; per Ravilious: [quote] While the subject is certainly open for discussion and subject to proof, it is probable that the mother of Edmund Stafford was a daughter (name unknown) of Sir Geoffrey de Langley, most likely by his second wife Maud de Brightwell.
In a previous thread on SGM in 2004 [1], evidence was found in a charter of Ralph de Stafford, 1st Earl of Stafford (d. 31 Aug 1372) confirming a grant to the priory of Cold Norton, co. Oxon. The witnesses included:
" Hugone de Stafford filio et haerede nostro;
Ricardo de Stafford fratre nostro;
Johanne de Peyto consanguineo nostro, militibus;
..... " [2]
Thanks to Rosie Bevan, the descent of Sir John de Peyto from Sir Geoffrey de Langley (by his first wife) was determined, so that
the probable relationship of Earl Ralph de Stafford to John de Peyto appears to be as follows:
Walter de Langley
of Pinley, co. Warwicks.
I
I
1) = Sir Geoffrey de Langley = 2) Matilda
I of Bisseley and Pinley : de Brightwell
I fl. 1236-7, d. 1274 : [see 1. below]
________I____________ :
I III :
Walter de Langley NN de = Nicholas
d. 1280 Langley I de Stafford
= Alice le Bret I d. ca. 1287
___I_____________________ I
I I I I I
Robert de Langley Edmund de Stafford
d. bef 1329 1st Lord (Baron) Stafford
I d. bef 12 Aug 1308
_______________I I
I __________________I______
I I I
Margery de Langley RALPH DE STAFFORD RICHARD DE
= William de Peyto 1st Earl of Stafford STAFFORD
I < witness >
I I
I I
JOHN DE PEYTO HUGH DE STAFFORD
2nd Earl of Stafford
< witness >
The foregoing appears to resolve the kinship of Sir John de Peyto to the Staffords, and thereby supports the assertion in CP that the wife of Nicholas de Stafford was a Langley.
Cheers, John *
NOTES:
[1] J. Ravilious, R. Bevan, et al.,, SGM, 11 Oct 2004 et seq.
[2] Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum VI/1:421. [end quote]5 GAV-19 EDV-21 GKJ-20.
; per Powys-Lybbe: [quote] If you don't have CP, you will not know that it says she was "probably da. of Geoffrey de Langley", Vol XII/1, p. 172 incl note (l). There is no correction to this either in Vol XIV or on Chris Phillips' site. [end quote]4
; per Ravilious: [quote] While the subject is certainly open for discussion and subject to proof, it is probable that the mother of Edmund Stafford was a daughter (name unknown) of Sir Geoffrey de Langley, most likely by his second wife Maud de Brightwell.
In a previous thread on SGM in 2004 [1], evidence was found in a charter of Ralph de Stafford, 1st Earl of Stafford (d. 31 Aug 1372) confirming a grant to the priory of Cold Norton, co. Oxon. The witnesses included:
" Hugone de Stafford filio et haerede nostro;
Ricardo de Stafford fratre nostro;
Johanne de Peyto consanguineo nostro, militibus;
..... " [2]
Thanks to Rosie Bevan, the descent of Sir John de Peyto from Sir Geoffrey de Langley (by his first wife) was determined, so that
the probable relationship of Earl Ralph de Stafford to John de Peyto appears to be as follows:
Walter de Langley
of Pinley, co. Warwicks.
I
I
1) = Sir Geoffrey de Langley = 2) Matilda
I of Bisseley and Pinley : de Brightwell
I fl. 1236-7, d. 1274 : [see 1. below]
________I____________ :
I III :
Walter de Langley
d. 1280 Langley I de Stafford
= Alice le Bret I d. ca. 1287
___I_____________________ I
I I I I I
d. bef 1329 1st Lord (Baron) Stafford
I d. bef 12 Aug 1308
_______________I I
I __________________I______
I I I
Margery de Langley RALPH DE STAFFORD RICHARD DE
= William de Peyto 1st Earl of Stafford STAFFORD
I
I I
I I
JOHN DE PEYTO HUGH DE STAFFORD
< witness >
The foregoing appears to resolve the kinship of Sir John de Peyto to the Staffords, and thereby supports the assertion in CP that the wife of Nicholas de Stafford was a Langley.
Cheers, John *
NOTES:
[1] J. Ravilious, R. Bevan, et al.,
[2] Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum VI/1:421. [end quote]5 GAV-19 EDV-21 GKJ-20.
Family | Nicholas de Stafford d. c 1 Aug 1287 |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 230, de STAFFORD of Staffordshire 7. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stafford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1678] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 12 Oct 2004: "CP Confirmation: NN de Langley, wife of Nicholas de Stafford"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 12 Oct 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 12 Oct 2004."
- [S2026] Tim Powys-Lybbe, "Powys-Lybbe email 24 Jan 2006: "Re: Who is real mother of Edmund Stafford (1273-1308)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 24 Jan 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Powys-Lybbe email 24 Jan 2006."
- [S2027] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 24 Jan 2006 #1: "Re: Who is real mother of Edmund Stafford (1273-1308)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 24 Jan 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 24 Jan 2006 #1."
Geoffrey de Langley of Bisseley and Pinley, co. Warwicks.1,2,3
M, #15778, b. before 1237, d. 1274
Father | Walter de Langley of Pinley, co. Warwicks2,3 |
Mother | Emma de Lacy3 |
Reference | GAV20 EDV20 |
Last Edited | 17 Jan 2007 |
Geoffrey de Langley of Bisseley and Pinley, co. Warwicks. married Matilda/Maud de Brightwell, daughter of Robert de Brightwell of Brightwell and Ewelme, co. Oxon.,
; his 2nd wife.2,3,4 Geoffrey de Langley of Bisseley and Pinley, co. Warwicks. married unknown (?)
; his 1st wife.5 Geoffrey de Langley of Bisseley and Pinley, co. Warwicks. was born before 1237.2
Geoffrey de Langley of Bisseley and Pinley, co. Warwicks. died in 1274.1,2,3
GAV-20 EDV-20. He was living between 1236 and 1237.5
; his 2nd wife.2,3,4 Geoffrey de Langley of Bisseley and Pinley, co. Warwicks. married unknown (?)
; his 1st wife.5 Geoffrey de Langley of Bisseley and Pinley, co. Warwicks. was born before 1237.2
Geoffrey de Langley of Bisseley and Pinley, co. Warwicks. died in 1274.1,2,3
GAV-20 EDV-20. He was living between 1236 and 1237.5
Family 1 | unknown (?) |
Children |
Family 2 | Matilda/Maud de Brightwell |
Child |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 230, de STAFFORD of Staffordshire 7. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1678] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 12 Oct 2004: "CP Confirmation: NN de Langley, wife of Nicholas de Stafford"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 12 Oct 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 12 Oct 2004."
- [S1679] Rosie Bevan, "Bevan email 12 Oct 2004 "Re: CP Confirmation: NN de Langley, wife of Nicholas de Stafford"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 12 Oct 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Bevan email 12 Oct 2004."
- [S1732] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #1 4 Dec 2004 "Ancestry of NN de Langley, wife of Nicholas de Stafford"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 4 Dec 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #1 4 Dec 2004."
- [S2027] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 24 Jan 2006 #1: "Re: Who is real mother of Edmund Stafford (1273-1308)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 24 Jan 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 24 Jan 2006 #1."
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stafford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
Robert de Stafford1
M, #15779, d. before 4 June 1261
Father | Hervey (Henry) de Stafford2,3 d. b 12 May 1237 |
Mother | Pernell/Peronnelle de Ferrers2,3 b. 1175 |
Reference | GAV20 EDV22 |
Last Edited | 11 May 2003 |
Robert de Stafford married Alice Corbet, daughter of Thomas Corbet 5th Baron of Caus, co. Salop and Isabel de Valletort.1,3
Robert de Stafford married Joan (?)1,3
Robert de Stafford died before 4 June 1261.1,3
GAV-20 EDV-22 GKJ-21.
Robert de Stafford married Joan (?)1,3
Robert de Stafford died before 4 June 1261.1,3
GAV-20 EDV-22 GKJ-21.
Family 1 | Joan (?) d. a 4 Jun 1261 |
Family 2 | Alice Corbet |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 230, de STAFFORD of Staffordshire 6. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 230, de STAFFORD of Staffordshire 5:ii.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stafford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Corbet - Barons Corbet, p. 136. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 230, de STAFFORD of Staffordshire 6:ii.
Alice Corbet1
F, #15780
Father | Thomas Corbet 5th Baron of Caus, co. Salop1,2 d. 1273 |
Mother | Isabel de Valletort3 |
Reference | GAV20 EDV22 |
Last Edited | 11 May 2003 |
Alice Corbet married Robert de Stafford, son of Hervey (Henry) de Stafford and Pernell/Peronnelle de Ferrers.1,2
GAV-20 EDV-22 GKJ-21.
GAV-20 EDV-22 GKJ-21.
Family | Robert de Stafford d. b 4 Jun 1261 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 230, de STAFFORD of Staffordshire 6. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stafford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Corbet - Barons Corbet, p. 136. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.