Thomas de Haudlo of Great Cheverell, Wiltshire1

M, #10621
FatherSir John de Haudlo Knt.1
MotherMaud fitz Alan1
Last Edited23 Aug 2008
     Thomas de Haudlo of Great Cheverell, Wiltshire married Joan de Berkeley, daughter of Thomas de Berkeley Knt., 3rd Lord Berkeley and Margaret de Mortimer, circa 17 January 1337
; date of dispensation; her 1st husband.1

Family

Joan de Berkeley d. 2 Oct 1369

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Cobham 9: p. 222. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Lady Maud de Beauchamp1,2,3

F, #10622, d. 28 July 1369
FatherSir Guy de Beauchamp 10th Earl of Warwick1,4,2,3 b. 1278, d. 12 Aug 1315
MotherAlice de Toeni4,3 b. c 1283, d. c 8 Jan 1324/25
ReferenceGAV21
Last Edited22 Dec 2012
     Lady Maud de Beauchamp married Geoffrey (IV) de Say 2nd Lord Say, Baron of West Greenwich, Kent, son of Geoffrey (III) de Say 1st Lord Say and Idoine de Leybourne,
; her 1st husband.5,1,3 Lady Maud de Beauchamp married Edmund (?) after 1356
; her 2nd husband.3

Her estate was probated in 1369.3

Lady Maud de Beauchamp died on 28 July 1369; per Burke's Peerage: "d 28 July 1369"; per Weis 25 Jul 1369.5,6,1,3
     GAV-21.

Family 2

Edmund (?)

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Saye and Sele Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Clinton 8: pp. 219-220. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Say 9: p. 641.
  4. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited & Extinct Peerages, p. 30. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  5. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 86-31, p. 86. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  6. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 16-6, p. 17. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Idoine de Say: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00101319&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  8. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Say 9.i: p. 641.
  9. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Say 10: p. 641.

Geoffrey (IV) de Say 2nd Lord Say, Baron of West Greenwich, Kent1,2

M, #10623, b. 30 April 1305, d. 26 June 1359
FatherGeoffrey (III) de Say 1st Lord Say1,2 b. c 1281, d. bt 3 Mar 1321 - 1322
MotherIdoine de Leybourne1,2 d. a 1321/22
ReferenceGAV21
Last Edited22 Dec 2012
     Geoffrey (IV) de Say 2nd Lord Say, Baron of West Greenwich, Kent married Lady Maud de Beauchamp, daughter of Sir Guy de Beauchamp 10th Earl of Warwick and Alice de Toeni,
; her 1st husband.3,1,2 Geoffrey (IV) de Say 2nd Lord Say, Baron of West Greenwich, Kent was born on 30 April 1305; per Burke's Peerage: "b c 1305."4,1,2
Geoffrey (IV) de Say 2nd Lord Say, Baron of West Greenwich, Kent died on 26 June 1359 at age 54.3,1,2
     He was 2nd Lord (Baron) Say of the 1313 cr.4,5,1

; GEOFFREY de SAY, 2nd LORD (Baron) SAY, JP (Kent 1357); b c 1305; Adml King's Fleets from mouth of Thames to western ports 1336, Capt Fleet towards the west 1337, fought at Crécy 1346, Constable Rochester Castle for life 1355; m Lady Maud de Beauchamp (d 28 July 1369), dau of 10th Earl of Warwick of the 1088 cr (see WARWICK, BROOKE and E), and d 26 June 1359.1 GAV-21. He was Admiral of the Fleet.3

Family

Lady Maud de Beauchamp d. 28 Jul 1369
Children

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Saye and Sele Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Say 9: p. 641. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 86-31, p. 86. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  4. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 16A-5, p. 18. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  5. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Clinton (Bt) Family Page.
  6. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Clinton 8: pp. 219-220.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Idoine de Say: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00101319&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  8. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Say 9.i: p. 641.
  9. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Say 10: p. 641.

Sir John de Segrave Knt., 2nd Lord Segrave1,2

M, #10624, b. circa 1256, d. before 4 October 1325
FatherSir Nicholas de Segrave 1st Lord Segrave1,3,4,5,6 b. b 17 Dec 1238, d. b 12 Nov 1295
MotherMatilda (Maud) de Lucy1,3,7,6 b. c 1245, d. a 1288
ReferenceEDV21
Last Edited6 Oct 2020
     Sir John de Segrave Knt., 2nd Lord Segrave was born circa 1256; Burke's says b ca 1256. Richardson says b say 1260/5.1,3,8,6 He married Christiane de Plessis, daughter of Sir Hugh de Plessy or Hooknorton & Kidlington, co. Oxf, in 1270.9,1,10,6

Sir John de Segrave Knt., 2nd Lord Segrave died before 4 October 1325.1,11,6
     EDV-21 GKJ-20.

; JOHN de SEGRAVE, 2nd Lord (Baron) Segrave; b c 1256; undertook mil service Wales by 1285, Ireland by 1287 and Scotland by 1291, also 1297-1322; Keeper Scotland by Feb 1302/3 (and again March 1308/9), when briefly taken prisoner by Scots; Keeper Nottingham Castle c 1308; Keeper marches with Scotland in Cumberland 1313, captured by the Scots at their victory over the English of Bannockburn 1314; m 1269/70 Christian, dau of Hugh de Plessis, and d by 4 Oct 1325, leaving, with a dau (Christiane): STEPHEN de SEGRAVE, 3rd Lord (Baron) Segrave.1

;
Per Genealogics:
     "John de Segrave was born about 1256, son of Nicholas de Segrave, 1st Lord Segrave, and Maud de Lucy. John de Segrave in 1270 married Christiane de Plessis. Before 12 November 1295 he succeeded his father as Baron Segrave.
     "From 26 August 1296 to 8 May 1325, he was summoned to Parliament. About 1301 he received license to encrenellate the manor of Bretby, co. Derby and, on 5 August 1302, was appointed custodian of the Castle of Berwick; became Keeper of Scotland, was ambushed and captured by the Scots, then, on 24 February 1302/3, rescued. In 1305, he was one of the four Justices in the commission of gaol delivery for the trial of William Wallace; then 'John de Segrave received fifteen shillings for the grisly task of escorting them (the quarters of Wallace) northwards' to Newcastle, Berwick, Stirling and Perth. On 10 March 1308/9 he was again appointed Keeper of Scotland. On 24 June 1314 at the battle of Bannockburn, he was again captured. On 8 November 1318, he had a charter granted by King Edward II to 'John de Segrave, the elder' for a market and fair at Alspath, county Warwick, 'To be held at the Manor'.
     "In 1323, because of the escape of Roger Mortimer, he fell under the King's displeasure. In June 1324, with his sons, he served in Aquitaine. John de Segrave died before 4 October 1325."

Sir John de Segrave Knt., 2nd Lord Segrave lived at Chacombe, Northamptonshire, England.9 He was 2nd Lord (Baron) Segrave.1

Reference: Genealogics cites:
     1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard. 485
     2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. XI 605.9,6

Family

Christiane de Plessis
Children

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Mowbray, Segrave and Stourton Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Clarke 9: p. 208. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Segrave of Isfield Place Family Page.
  4. [S1637] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 13 May 2004: "Possible Identification of Juliana, wife of Robert de Chaucombe"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/fVGUjhV53I8/m/txhvX4TJk2oJ) to e-mail address, 13 May 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 13 May 2004."
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Nicholas de Segrave, 1st Baron Segrave: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139730&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John de Segrave, 2nd Lord Segrave: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139732&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud de Lucy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139731&tree=LEO
  8. [S3425] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 28 May 2016: "C.P. Addition: New light on the parentage of Maud de Lucy, wife of     Sir Gilbert de Segrave, 1st Lord Segrave (died 1295)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 28 May 2016. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 28 May 2016."
  9. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 58-31, p. 64. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Christiane de Plessis: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139733&tree=LEO
  11. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Segrave Family Page.
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John de Segrave: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00398128&tree=LEO
  13. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers of Groby, co. Leicester, p. 198. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  14. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Despenser 8: pp. 268-269.
  15. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Fitz Alan 8.iii: p. 316.

Christiane de Plessis1,2

F, #10625
FatherSir Hugh de Plessy or Hooknorton & Kidlington, co. Oxf3,1,2
ReferenceEDV21
Last Edited6 Oct 2020
     Christiane de Plessis married Sir John de Segrave Knt., 2nd Lord Segrave, son of Sir Nicholas de Segrave 1st Lord Segrave and Matilda (Maud) de Lucy, in 1270.4,5,1,6

     EDV-21 GKJ-20.

Reference: Genealogics cites:
     1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 485
     2. The Complete Peerage, 1936, Doubleday, H. A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: XI 605.1 Christiane de Plessis was also known as Christian de Plessy.5 She was living on 8 May 1331.1

Family

Sir John de Segrave Knt., 2nd Lord Segrave b. c 1256, d. b 4 Oct 1325
Children

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Christiane de Plessis: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139733&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Fitz Alan 8.iii: p. 316. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugh de Plessis: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177410&tree=LEO
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 58-31, p. 64. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Mowbray, Segrave and Stourton Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John de Segrave, 2nd Lord Segrave: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139732&tree=LEO
  7. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Burghhersh 9: p. 169.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John de Segrave: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00398128&tree=LEO

Sir Hugh de Plessy or Hooknorton & Kidlington, co. Oxf

M, #10626
ReferenceEDV21
Last Edited6 Oct 2020
     Reference: van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936, Doubleday, H. A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: XI 608.1 EDV-21. Sir Hugh de Plessy or Hooknorton & Kidlington, co. Oxf was also known as Hugh de Plessis.2

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Christiane de Plessis: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139733&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugh de Plessis: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177410&tree=LEO
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Fitz Alan 8.iii: p. 316. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Henry de Ferrers 2nd Lord Ferrers of Groby1,2,3,4

M, #10627, b. circa 1303, d. 15 September 1343
FatherSir William de Ferrers Knt, 1st Lord Ferrers of Groby1,2,3,4 b. 30 Jan 1271/72, d. 20 Mar 1324/25
MotherEllen/Margaret de Segrave (Savage)1,2,3,4 b. 1282, d. a 9 Feb 1316/17
ReferenceEDV21 GKJ19
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Henry de Ferrers 2nd Lord Ferrers of Groby was born circa 1303; Weis says b. ca 1294; Utz email says b. ca 1303; van de Pas says b. bef 1304; Richardson says "aged 22 at his father's death in 1325"; Racines et Histoire says b. bef 1304.5,2,3,4 He married Isabel de Verdun, daughter of Sir Theobald II de Verdun Knt., Lord of Weoberley, 2nd Lord Verdun, Justiciar of Ireland and Lady Elizabeth de Clare, before 20 February 1330/31.5,1,2,3,6,4

Henry de Ferrers 2nd Lord Ferrers of Groby died on 15 September 1343 at Groby, Leicestershire, England.5,1,2,3,4
Henry de Ferrers 2nd Lord Ferrers of Groby was buried after 15 September 1343 at Priory of Ulvercroft, Leicestershire, England.2,4
     EDV-21 GKJ-19.

Henry de Ferrers 2nd Lord Ferrers of Groby lived at Groby, Leicestershire, England.7

; van de Pas cites: 1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 344
2. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 198.4

; "Henry Ferrers, 2nd Baron Ferrers, of Groby, summoned to parliament from 5 June, 1331 to 20 November, 1342. This nobleman, being actively engaged in the wards of King Edward III, both in Scotland and France, acquired very large territorial possessions, by grants from the crown, for his services. His lordship m. Isabel, 4th dau. and co-heir of Theobald, 2nd Lord Verdon, and in the 5th Edward III, upon doing homage, had livery of the lands of her inheritance lying in Ireland. Of this marriage there were issue,
William, his successor.
Ralph, m. Joan, dau. of Richard, Baron Grey of Codnor, and widow of Sir William Harcourt, of Bosworth, co. Leicester.
Philippa, m. to Guy de Beauchamp, son and heir of Thomas, Earl of Warwick.
Elizabeth, m. David, Earl of Athol.
His lordship d. in 1343, and was s. by his son, William Ferrers, 3rd Baron Ferrers, of Groby..."1 He was 2nd Lord Ferrers of Groby.7 He was M.P. from 25 January 1329/30 to.7 He was Chamberlain to the King between March 1336 and November 1340.7

Family

Isabel de Verdun b. 21 Mar 1316/17, d. 25 Jul 1349
Children

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers of Groby, co. Leicester, p. 198. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1713] David Utz, "Utz email #1 29 May 2005 "Aline de Gai's descents to Anne Arundell"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 May 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #1 29 May 2005."
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Clarke 9: p. 208. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henry de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177544&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 58-32, p. 64. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabel de Verdun: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027640&tree=LEO
  7. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 86. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  8. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Warwick, Brooke Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  9. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited & Extinct Peerages, p. 31.
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Philippa de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00398129&tree=LEO
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ralph de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177545&tree=LEO
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00101311&tree=LEO
  13. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Strabolgi Family Page.
  14. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, p. 51.
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00338636&tree=LEO

Isabel de Verdun1,2

F, #10628, b. 21 March 1316/17, d. 25 July 1349
FatherSir Theobald II de Verdun Knt., Lord of Weoberley, 2nd Lord Verdun, Justiciar of Ireland1,2,3,4,5 b. 8 Sep 1278, d. 27 Jul 1316
MotherLady Elizabeth de Clare1,2,6,7,4 b. 16 Sep 1295, d. 4 Nov 1360
ReferenceEDV21 GKJ19
Last Edited18 Dec 2020
     Isabel de Verdun was born on 21 March 1316/17 at Amesbury, Wiltshire, England; born posthumously.8,9,1,2 She married Henry de Ferrers 2nd Lord Ferrers of Groby, son of Sir William de Ferrers Knt, 1st Lord Ferrers of Groby and Ellen/Margaret de Segrave (Savage), before 20 February 1330/31.10,11,9,1,2,12

Isabel de Verdun died on 25 July 1349 at age 32.8,9,1,2
     EDV-21 GKJ-19.

; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: XII 252.2

Family

Henry de Ferrers 2nd Lord Ferrers of Groby b. c 1303, d. 15 Sep 1343
Children

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Clarke 9: p. 208. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabel de Verdun: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027640&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Theobald de Verdun: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027639&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3T-Z.htm#TheobaldVerdundied1316. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 70-32, p. 78.. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lady Elizabeth de Clare: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027612&tree=LEO
  7. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, Line 11-30, p. 15.
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 11-31, p. 14. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  9. [S1713] David Utz, "Utz email #1 29 May 2005 "Aline de Gai's descents to Anne Arundell"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 May 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #1 29 May 2005."
  10. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 58-32, p. 64.
  11. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers of Groby, co. Leicester, p. 198. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henry de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177544&tree=LEO
  13. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Warwick, Brooke Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Philippa de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00398129&tree=LEO
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ralph de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177545&tree=LEO
  16. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00101311&tree=LEO
  17. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, p. 51.
  18. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00338636&tree=LEO

Nichole d'Aubigny1

F, #10629
FatherWilliam d'Aubigny 3rd Earl of Arundel, Earl of Sussex1 d. 1 Feb 1221
MotherMabel de Kevelioc of Chester
ReferenceGAV21 EDV21
Last Edited11 Mar 2020
     Nichole d'Aubigny married Roger de Somery Lord Dudley, co. Worcester, son of Sir Ralph de Somery Lord of Dudley, co. Worcester and Margaret Marshal.2,3,1

     GAV-21 EDV-21.

.2 Nichole d'Aubigny was also known as Nicola de Albini.1

Family

Roger de Somery Lord Dudley, co. Worcester d. b 26 Aug 1273
Children

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 126-29, p. 114. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  3. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 228, de SOMERY 3. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Cromwell Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  5. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 228, de SOMERY 3:i.
  6. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 228, de SOMERY 3:iv.
  7. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 228, de SOMERY 3:v.
  8. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Saint Davids Family Page.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Roger de Somery: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00331776&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Roger de Somery Lord Dudley, co. Worcester1,2

M, #10630, d. before 26 August 1273
FatherSir Ralph de Somery Lord of Dudley, co. Worcester3,1,2 d. c 1211
MotherMargaret Marshal3,1,2 d. a 1242
ReferenceGAV21 EDV21
Last Edited18 May 2004
     Roger de Somery Lord Dudley, co. Worcester married Nichole d'Aubigny, daughter of William d'Aubigny 3rd Earl of Arundel, Earl of Sussex and Mabel de Kevelioc of Chester.4,5,6
Roger de Somery Lord Dudley, co. Worcester married Amabil/Annabelle de Chaucombe, daughter of Sir Robert de Chaucombe Lord of Chaucombe, co. Northampton and Rotherby, co. Leics. and Juliana de Gournay, circa 1254.7,1,5,2

Roger de Somery Lord Dudley, co. Worcester died before 26 August 1273.8,5,2
     GAV-21 EDV-21.

.4

Family 1

Nichole d'Aubigny
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 227, de SOMERY 2:iv. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1637] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 13 May 2004: "Possible Identification of Juliana, wife of Robert de Chaucombe"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/fVGUjhV53I8/m/txhvX4TJk2oJ) to e-mail address, 13 May 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 13 May 2004."
  3. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 136-2, p. 175. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 126-29, p. 114. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 228, de SOMERY 3.
  6. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  7. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 81-29, p. 78.
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 54-28, pp. 59.
  9. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Cromwell Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  10. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited & Extinct Peerages, p. 27.
  11. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 228, de SOMERY 3:i.
  12. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 228, de SOMERY 3:iv.
  13. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 228, de SOMERY 3:v.
  14. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Saint Davids Family Page.
  15. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 228, de SOMERY 3:vii.

Sir William de Ferrers Knt., 3rd Lord Ferrers of Groby1,2,3,4

M, #10631, b. between 28 February 1332 and 1333, d. 8 January 1370/71
FatherHenry de Ferrers 2nd Lord Ferrers of Groby1,2,5,6,4 b. c 1303, d. 15 Sep 1343
MotherIsabel de Verdun1,2,5,7,4 b. 21 Mar 1316/17, d. 25 Jul 1349
ReferenceEDV20 GKJ18
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Sir William de Ferrers Knt., 3rd Lord Ferrers of Groby was christened between 28 February 1332 and 1333 at Newbold Verdon, Leicestershire, England.3,4 He was born between 28 February 1332 and 1333 at Newbold Verdon, Leicestershire, England.8,9,2,4 He married Margaret de Ufford, daughter of Robert de Ufford 1st Earl of Suffolk, 2nd Lord Ufford and Margaret de Norwich, before 25 April 1344
; his 1st wife.8,9,1,2,3,4,10 Sir William de Ferrers Knt., 3rd Lord Ferrers of Groby married Margaret de Percy, daughter of Sir Henry de Percy K.G., 2nd Lord Percy of Alnwick and Idoine/Idonea de Clifford, before 25 May 1368
; his 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.9,11,1,12,3,4
Sir William de Ferrers Knt., 3rd Lord Ferrers of Groby died on 8 January 1370/71 at Stebbing, co. Essex, England.8,9,2,3,4

His estate was probated on 19 July 1372.3

     He was 3rd Lord Ferrers of Groby.9,1

; "William Ferrers, 3rd Baron Ferrers, of Groby, summoned to parliament from 15 March, 1354, to 6 April, 1369. In the 29th Edward III, his lordship was in the expedition then made into France in the retinue of his father-in-law, Robert de Ufford, Earl of Suffolk; and again, in the 33rd and 34th, in the latter of which years, his lands in Ireland being seized for the defence of that realm, the king directed his precept to the justice, chancellor and treasurer there, to discharge them, in consequence of his lordship being then in the wards in France, with divers men-at-arms and archers, at a very considerable expense. His lordship m. 1st Margaret, dau. and co-heair of Robert de Ufford, Earl of Suffolk, by whom he had issue,
Henry, his successor.
Elizabeth, a nun, in the convent of Minoresses-without, Aldgate, in the suburbs of London.
Margaret, m. to Thomas Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick.
H m. 2ndly, Margaret, dau. of Henry, 2nd Lord Percy, and widow of Robert, son and heir of Gilbert de Umfravil, Earl of Angus, and dying in 1372, was s. by his son, Henry Ferrers, 4th Baron Ferrers, of Groby..."1 EDV-20 GKJ-18.

; Faris (1999, pp. 86-87): [quote] WILLIAM DE FERRERS, Knt., 3rd Lord Ferrers of Groby, son and heir, was born at Newbold Verdon, co. Leicester, on 28 Feb. 1332/3. He was married for the first time before 25 Apr. 1344 to MARGARET DE UFFORD, third daughter of Robert de Ufford, 1st Earl of Suffolk (of baronial descent), by Margaret, daughter of Walter de Norwich, Knt., of Sculthorpe, Norfolk. She was sister, and in her issue, co-heiress to William, Earl of Suffolk. He accompanied the Prince of Wales to Gascony in September 1355, and was at the Battle of Poitiers. He was with the King in the invasion of France in October 1359 to 1360. He was summoned to Parliament from 15 Mar. 1353/4 by writs directed Willelmo de Ferariis. He was married for the second time before 25 May 1368 to MARGARET DE PERCY, widow of Robert de Umfreville, Knt., of Pallethorp and Hessle, co. York (died s.p.), and daughter of Henry de Percy, Knt., of Alnwick, Northumberland, 2nd Lord Percy, by Idoine, daughter of Robert de Clifford, 1st Lord Clifford of Appleby, Westmorland. WILLIAM DE FERRERS, Lord Ferrers, died testate aged thirty-seven at Stebbing on 8 Jan. 1370/1 (will requesting burial at Ulverscroft, co. Leicester). His widow died testate at Gyng (now Buttsbury), Essex, on 2 Sep. 1375.
Baddesley Clinton (1907), p. 114. C.P. 5:348-351 (1926). [end quote]

; van de Pas cites: 1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 348;XII 377
2. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 198.4 He was M.P. on 15 March 1353/54.9

Sir William de Ferrers Knt., 3rd Lord Ferrers of Groby left a will on 1 June 1368.3

Family 1

Margaret de Ufford b. c 1330, d. 2 Sep 1375
Children

Family 2

Margaret de Percy d. 2 Sep 1375

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers of Groby, co. Leicester, p. 198. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1713] David Utz, "Utz email #1 29 May 2005 "Aline de Gai's descents to Anne Arundell"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 May 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #1 29 May 2005."
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Clarke 10: pp. 208-209. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00101311&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Clarke 9: p. 208.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henry de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177544&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabel de Verdun: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027640&tree=LEO
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 11-32, p. 15. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  9. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), pp. 86-87. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret de Ufford: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00101312&tree=LEO
  11. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Northumberland Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  12. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brabant 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brabant/brabant4.html
  13. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited & Extinct Peerages, p. 31.
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henry de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177524&tree=LEO

Margaret de Ufford1,2,3

F, #10632, b. circa 1330, d. 2 September 1375
FatherRobert de Ufford 1st Earl of Suffolk, 2nd Lord Ufford4,2,3 b. 9 Aug 1298, d. 4 Nov 1369
MotherMargaret de Norwich5,2,3 b. c 1300, d. 2 Apr 1368
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Margaret de Ufford was born circa 1330.6 She married Sir William de Ferrers Knt., 3rd Lord Ferrers of Groby, son of Henry de Ferrers 2nd Lord Ferrers of Groby and Isabel de Verdun, before 25 April 1344
; his 1st wife.7,8,9,6,2,10,3
Margaret de Ufford died on 2 September 1375 at Gyng, co. Essex, England.6
Margaret de Ufford was buried after 2 September 1375 at Church of the Friars Preachers, Chelmsford, co. Essex, England.6
      ; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: XII 377.3

; Weis AR7 11-32.7

Family

Sir William de Ferrers Knt., 3rd Lord Ferrers of Groby b. bt 28 Feb 1332 - 1333, d. 8 Jan 1370/71
Children

Citations

  1. [S752] Marcellus Donald Alexander R. von Redlich, compiler, Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. I (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1941 (1988 reprint)), p. 153. Hereinafter cited as von Redlich [1941] Charlemagne Desc. vol I.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Clarke 10: pp. 208-209. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret de Ufford: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00101312&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Ufford: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139284&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret de Norwich: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139285&tree=LEO
  6. [S1713] David Utz, "Utz email #1 29 May 2005 "Aline de Gai's descents to Anne Arundell"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 May 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #1 29 May 2005."
  7. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 11-32, p. 15. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  8. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), pp. 86-87. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  9. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers of Groby, co. Leicester, p. 198. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00101311&tree=LEO
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henry de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177524&tree=LEO

Sir John de Holand of Thorpe Waterville1

M, #10633
FatherSir Robert de Holand Knt., 1st Lord Holand of Upholland1 b. c 1270, d. 7 Oct 1328
MotherMaud La Zouche1 b. c 1290, d. 31 May 1349
Last Edited12 Nov 2002
      ; John (Sir), 'of' Thorpe Waterville, which, however, he appears to have occupied as a kind of grace and favour tenant rather than outright owner since the records show that Manor as having passed to the descendants of his er bro THOMAS, EARL OF KENT; had, with a yr s (Thomas, ancestor of the HOLLANDs of Weare, Devon), an elder son (Sir) John.1

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Zouche Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Sir John Holand of Thorpe Waterville1

M, #10634, d. circa 1451
FatherSir John Holand Knt., of Thorpe Waterville, Northamptonshire1,2 b. c 1348, d. c 1421
Last Edited20 Dec 2008
     Sir John Holand of Thorpe Waterville died circa 1451.1

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Zouche Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Holand 8.ii: pp. 399-400. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Alianore de Holand1,2

F, #10635, d. before 21 November 1341
FatherSir Robert de Holand Knt., 1st Lord Holand of Upholland1,2,3,4 b. c 1270, d. 7 Oct 1328
MotherMaud La Zouche1,5,4 b. c 1290, d. 31 May 1349
Last Edited20 Dec 2008
     Alianore de Holand married John Darcy 2nd Lord Darcy de Knayth, son of Sir John Darcy 1st Lord Darcy de Knayth and Emmeline Heron, before 8 July 1332
; his 1st wife.1,2
Alianore de Holand died before 21 November 1341; dspm.1,2

Family

John Darcy 2nd Lord Darcy de Knayth b. c 1317, d. 5 Mar 1355/56

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Zouche Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Darcy de Knayth Family Page.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Holand: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026789&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Holand 7: p. 398. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud La Zouche: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026790&tree=LEO

Sir Henry Ferrers Knt., 4th Lord Ferrers of Groby1,2,3,4,5,6

M, #10636, b. 16 February 1355/56, d. 3 February 1387/88
FatherSir William de Ferrers Knt., 3rd Lord Ferrers of Groby1,2,7,8,6 b. bt 28 Feb 1332 - 1333, d. 8 Jan 1370/71
MotherMargaret de Ufford1,2,7,9,6 b. c 1330, d. 2 Sep 1375
ReferenceGKJ20
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Sir Henry Ferrers Knt., 4th Lord Ferrers of Groby was born on 16 February 1355/56 at Abbey of Tilty; Utz email says b. 16 Feb 1354/55; Racines et Histoire says b 16/02/1355/56.10,11,2,3,4,6 He married Joan de Hoo, daughter of Sir Thomas de Hoo and Isabel St. Leger, before 27 April 1371.4,6

Sir Henry Ferrers Knt., 4th Lord Ferrers of Groby died on 3 February 1387/88 at age 31.10,1,2,3,4,6
      ; "Henry Ferrers, 4th Baron Ferrers, of Groby, summoned to parliament from 4 August, 1377, to 17 December, 1387. This nobleman was uninterruptedly engaged in the French wars from the 1st to the 7th Richard II [1377/8-1383/4], inclusive; and the next year being then a banneret, he was retained to serve the king in the wars of Scotland. Upon the death of William de Ufford, Earl of Suffolk, his mother's brother, without issue, Lord Ferrers was found to be one of the deceased earl's next heris. His lordship m. Joane, dau. of Lucas Poynings, Lord St. Joh, and dying in 1388, was s. by his son, William Ferrers, 5th Baron Ferrers, of Groby..."1 GKJ-20.

Reference: van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 351.6

; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 351.4

; Faris (1999, p. 87): "HENRY BE FERRERS, 4th Lord Ferrers of Groby, son and heir, was born at the Abbey of Tilty on 16 Feb. 1355/6. He was married before 27 Apr. 1371 to JOAN POYNINGS, daughter, evidently, of Luke de Poynings (or Ponynges), Knt., 4th Lord St. John of Basing (of Magna Carta Surety descent and descendant of Charlemagne), by Isabel, daughter of Hugh de Saint John, 2nd Lord St. John of Basing (which Luke had custody of the wardship of the lands of William de Ferrers in 1371). In August 1385 he accompanied King Richard II in his invasion of Scotland. He was summoned to Parliament from 4 Aug. 1377 by writs directed Henrico de Ferrariis de Groby. HENRY DE FERRERS, Lord Ferrers, died on 3 Feb. 1387/8. His widow died on 30 May 1394.
Baddesley Clinton (1907), pp. 114-115. C.P. 5:351-353 (1926). C.P. 14:321(1998) (Joan used a seal with a shield of Ferrers impaling St. John, as used by Poynings).
Children of Henry de Ferrers, by Joan Poynings:
i. WILLIAM FERRERS [see next].
ii. ISABEL FERRERS, married JOHN BEAUCHAMP [see HAVILAND 8].2"
* * * * * *
Note: Weis (1982) 11-33, p. 15 says that Henry's wife as Joan "...prob. daughter of Thomas de Hoo and Isabel Saint Leger". He was 4th Lord Ferrers of Groby.11,1

Family

Joan de Hoo d. 30 May 1394
Children

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers of Groby, co. Leicester, p. 198. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1713] David Utz, "Utz email #1 29 May 2005 "Aline de Gai's descents to Anne Arundell"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 May 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #1 29 May 2005."
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Clarke 11: p. 209. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henry de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177524&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Paulet 9.ii: p. 570.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henry de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177524&tree=LEO
  7. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Clarke 10: pp. 208-209.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00101311&tree=LEO
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret de Ufford: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00101312&tree=LEO
  10. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 11-33, p. 15. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  11. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 87. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  12. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Haviland 12: p. 388.
  13. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers of Groby, co. Leicester, pp. 198-9.
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177526&tree=LEO

Joan de Hoo1

F, #10637, d. 30 May 1394
FatherSir Thomas de Hoo
MotherIsabel St. Leger
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Joan de Hoo married Sir Henry Ferrers Knt., 4th Lord Ferrers of Groby, son of Sir William de Ferrers Knt., 3rd Lord Ferrers of Groby and Margaret de Ufford, before 27 April 1371.2,3

Joan de Hoo died on 30 May 1394.4,1
     Reference: van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 351.1

Family

Sir Henry Ferrers Knt., 4th Lord Ferrers of Groby b. 16 Feb 1355/56, d. 3 Feb 1387/88
Children

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan de Hoo: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177525&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henry de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177524&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henry de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177524&tree=LEO
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 11-33, p. 15. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabel de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00311609&tree=LEO
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Ferrers.pdf: p. 7@#$%. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177526&tree=LEO

Sir Thomas de Hoo

M, #10638
Last Edited20 Aug 2019
     Sir Thomas de Hoo married Isabel St. Leger.1

      .1

Family

Isabel St. Leger
Child

Citations

  1. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 11-33, p. 15. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.

Isabel St. Leger

F, #10639
Last Edited9 Nov 2008
     Isabel St. Leger married Sir Thomas de Hoo.1

      .1

Family

Sir Thomas de Hoo
Child

Citations

  1. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 11-33, p. 15. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.

William de Ferrers 5th Lord Ferrers of Groby1,2,3,4

M, #10640, b. 25 April 1372, d. 18 May 1445
FatherSir Henry Ferrers Knt., 4th Lord Ferrers of Groby1,2,5,6,4,7 b. 16 Feb 1355/56, d. 3 Feb 1387/88
MotherJoan de Hoo8,9,10 d. 30 May 1394
ReferenceGKJ19
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     William de Ferrers 5th Lord Ferrers of Groby was born before 25 April 1372 at Manor House of Hoo.11,2,3,4 He was baptized on 25 April 1372 at Luton, Bedfordshire, England.12,3,4 He married Philippa de Clifford, daughter of Sir Roger de Clifford 5th Lord Clifford, of Appleby, Lord of Westmoreland and Maud de Beauchamp, after 10 October 1388
; his 1st wife.13,14,2,12,3,4,15 William de Ferrers 5th Lord Ferrers of Groby married Margaret de Montagu, daughter of John de Montagu Knt., KG, 3rd Earl of Salisbury, Lord Montagu, Lord Monthermer and Maude Fraunceys, before 9 August 1416
; his 2nd wife.12,16,13,14,3,4 William de Ferrers 5th Lord Ferrers of Groby married Elizabeth de Standish, daughter of Sir Robert de Standish of Ulnes Walton and Isolda (?), before 26 October 1416
; his 3rd wife.14,3,4
William de Ferrers 5th Lord Ferrers of Groby died on 18 May 1445 at Woodham Ferrers, co. Essex, England, at age 73; died testate.17,18,2,3
     He was 5th Lord Ferrers of Groby.16,13

; "William Ferrers, 5th Baron Ferrers, of Groby, summoned to parliament from 30 November, 1396, to 3 December, 1441. This nobleman was also in the French wars. His lordship m. 1st, Philippa, dau. of Roger, Baron Clifford, by Matilda his wife, dau. of Thomas Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick; and 2ndly Margaret, dau. of John Montacute, 3rd Earl of Salisbury, and by the former had issue,
I. Henry, who d. v. p. 1394, leaving (by Isabel his wife, eldest dau. of Thomas Mowbray, Duke of Norfolk, by Elizabeth his wife, sister and co-heir of Thomas FitzAlan, Earl of Arundel and Surrey, which lady m. 2ndly, James, Baton Berkeley), an only dau. and heriess, Elizabeth, heiress to the Barony of Ferreres, of Groby, at the decease of her grandfather, m. 1st, Sir Edward Grey, Knt. (eldest son of Baron Grey de Ruthin), who was summoned to parliament as Baron Ferrers of Groby. (See Grey, Baron Ferrers) She m. 2ndly Sir John Bourchier, 4th son of Henry, Earl of Essex
II. Thomas (Sir), of Tamworth, jure uxoris, who m. Elizabeth, sister and co-heir of Sir Baldwin Frevile, Knt., of Tamworth Castle, co. Warwick, and had issue,
1. Thomas (Sir), 2nd Lord of Tamworth Castle...
2. Henry (Sir)...
III. John.
IV. Edmund of St. Albans.
William, 5th Baron Ferres, of Groby, d. in 1445, when the Barony of Ferrers, of Groby, devolved upon his grand-dau., Elizabeth, in which dignity, her husband, Sir Edward Grey, was summoned to parliament..."1 GKJ-19.

; van de Pas cites: 1.The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 354
2. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: Q 99389.4

; Faris (1999, p. 87): [quote] WILLIAM FERRERS, 5th Lord Ferrers of Groby, was born at the manor house of Hoo, and was baptised at Luton, co. Bedford, on 25 Apr. 1372. He was summoned to Parliament from 30 Nov. 1396 by writs directed Willelmo de Ferrariis de Groby. He was married for the first time after 10 Oct. 1388 to PHILIPPE CLIFFORD, daughter of Roger de Clifford, Knt., Lord Clifford (of Magna Carla Surety descent and descendant of Charlemagne), by Maud, daughter of Thomas de Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick (descendant of Charlemagne). They had three sons and three daughters. She was living on 4 July 1405. He was married for the second time before 9 Aug. 1416 to MARGARET MONTAGU, daughter of John de Montagu, 3rd Earl of Salisbury, by Maud, daughter of Adam Fraunceys, Knt., of London. He was married for the third time before 26 Oct. 1416 to ELIZABETH STANDISH, widow, first, of John de Wrottesley, of Wrottesley, co. Stafford (died 7 Sep. 1402), second, of William Botiller, Knt., of Warrington, co. Lancaster (died at the siege of Harfleur 26 Sep. 1415), and daughter of Robert Standish, of Ulnes-Walton, co. Lancaster, by his wife Iseude. She died in January or February 1441/2. WILLIAM DE FERRERS, Lord Ferrers, died testate aged seventy-three on 18 May 1445 (his will, made the previous day at Woodhain Ferrers, Essex, and desiring burial at Ulverscroft Priory, was witnessed by William Culpeper).
Baddesley Clinton (1907), p. 115. C.P. 5:354-358 (1926). C.P. 6:178 (1926). Paget (1957) 207:507, 372:11. Abel Lunt (1963), pp. 238-241 (identification of daughter Elizabeth).
Children of William Ferrers, by Philippe Clifford:
i. HENRY FERRERS, married ISABEL MOWBRAY [see GREY 8].1
ii. THOMAS FERRERS [see next].
iii. ELIZABETH FERRERS, married WILLIAM CULPEPER [see STOCKMAN 8].2 [end quote].17 He was M.P. from 30 November 1396 to.16

Family 2

Philippa de Clifford d. bt 4 Jul 1405 - 9 Aug 1416
Children

Family 4

Elizabeth de Standish d. bt Jan 1441 - Feb 1442

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers of Groby, co. Leicester, pp. 198-9. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1713] David Utz, "Utz email #1 29 May 2005 "Aline de Gai's descents to Anne Arundell"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 May 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #1 29 May 2005."
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Clarke 12: p. 209. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177526&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Clarke 11: p. 209.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henry de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177524&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henry de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177524&tree=LEO
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  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan de Hoo: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177525&tree=LEO
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177526&tree=LEO
  11. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 248-34, p. 221. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  12. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 11-34, p. 15.
  13. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers of Groby, co. Leicester, p. 198.
  14. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), CLARKE 7, pp. 87-8. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  15. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Clifford 9: p. 215.
  16. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 87.
  17. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, CLARKE 5, pp. 87-8.
  18. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers of Groby, co. Leicester, p. 199.
  19. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Ferrers.pdf: p. 8.
  20. [S2371] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd edition (3 Volumes) (Salt Lake City, UT: Self Published, 2011), Vol III: Stockman 13: p. 276. Hereinafter cited as Richardson [2011] Plantagenet Ancestry 2nd ed (3 vols).
  21. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Henry Ferrers, of Groby: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00060813&tree=LEO
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  24. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Thomas Ferrers, of Tamworth: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177530&tree=LEO

Philippa de Clifford1,2

F, #10641, d. between 4 July 1405 and 9 August 1416
FatherSir Roger de Clifford 5th Lord Clifford, of Appleby, Lord of Westmoreland1,2,3,4 b. 10 Jul 1333, d. 13 Jul 1389
MotherMaud de Beauchamp1,2,5,3 b. c 1338, d. bt Jan 1402 - Feb 1403
ReferenceGKJ19
Last Edited16 Aug 2019
     Philippa de Clifford married William de Ferrers 5th Lord Ferrers of Groby, son of Sir Henry Ferrers Knt., 4th Lord Ferrers of Groby and Joan de Hoo, after 10 October 1388
; his 1st wife.1,6,7,8,2,9,4
Philippa de Clifford died between 4 July 1405 and 9 August 1416.10,7
      ; Weis AR7 11-34.8 She was living on 4 July 1405.2

Family

William de Ferrers 5th Lord Ferrers of Groby b. 25 Apr 1372, d. 18 May 1445
Children

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers of Groby, co. Leicester, p. 198. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Clarke 12: p. 209. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Roger de Clifford: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028355&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Clifford 9: p. 215.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud de Beauchamp: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028355&tree=LEO
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  7. [S1713] David Utz, "Utz email #1 29 May 2005 "Aline de Gai's descents to Anne Arundell"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 May 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #1 29 May 2005."
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 11-34, p. 15. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177526&tree=LEO
  10. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 87.
  11. [S2371] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd edition (3 Volumes) (Salt Lake City, UT: Self Published, 2011), Vol III: Stockman 13: p. 276. Hereinafter cited as Richardson [2011] Plantagenet Ancestry 2nd ed (3 vols).
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Henry Ferrers, of Groby: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00060813&tree=LEO
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  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Thomas Ferrers, of Tamworth: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177530&tree=LEO

Margaret de Montagu1,2

F, #10642
FatherJohn de Montagu Knt., KG, 3rd Earl of Salisbury, Lord Montagu, Lord Monthermer1,2,3,4 b. c 1350/51, d. 7 Jan 1399/0
MotherMaude Fraunceys1,4 d. b 5 Aug 1424
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Margaret de Montagu married William de Ferrers 5th Lord Ferrers of Groby, son of Sir Henry Ferrers Knt., 4th Lord Ferrers of Groby and Joan de Hoo, before 9 August 1416
; his 2nd wife.5,6,1,7,2,8
      ; Weis AR7 11-34.5 Margaret de Montagu was also known as Margaret Montacute.

Family

William de Ferrers 5th Lord Ferrers of Groby b. 25 Apr 1372, d. 18 May 1445

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers of Groby, co. Leicester, p. 198. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Clarke 12: p. 209. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Montagu 8: p. 508.
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Montagu 9: p. 508.
  5. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 11-34, p. 15. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  6. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 87. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  7. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, CLARKE 7, pp. 87-8.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177526&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Thomas Ferrers Esq., of Tamworth1,2,3,4,5

M, #10643, b. circa 1402, d. 6 January 1458/59
FatherWilliam de Ferrers 5th Lord Ferrers of Groby1,2,3,6,5 b. 25 Apr 1372, d. 18 May 1445
MotherPhilippa de Clifford d. bt 4 Jul 1405 - 9 Aug 1416; van de Pas says his mother was Pilippa Clifford (his father's 1st wife). Racines et Histoire says his mother was Elizabeth Standish (his father's 3rd wife).2,3,5
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Thomas Ferrers Esq., of Tamworth was born circa 1402; Richardson says "aged 50 in 1452"; Faris says b. ca 1405.7,4 He married Elizabeth Freville, daughter of Sir Baldwin IV Freville Knt., of Tamworth Castle, co. Warwick and Maud le Scrope, before 1418.7,1,3,4,5,8,9

Thomas Ferrers Esq., of Tamworth died on 6 January 1458/59.10,7,4,5
      ; van de Pas cites: 1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: Q 99389
2. Living descendants of Blood Royal in America , Angerville, Count d', Reference: 671.5

; Faris (1999, p. 88): "THOMAS FERRERS, Esq., second son by first marriage, and heir male, was born about 1405 (aged forty at father's death). His father settled the Manors of Hitha, Flecknoe, co. Warwick, Champeyns in Woodham Ferrers, Essex, on him on 20 Jan. 1442. He was married to ELIZABETH FREVILLE, daughter of Baldwin Freville, Knt., of Tamworth Castle and Middleton, co. Warwick (of Magna Carta Surety descent and descendant of Charlemagne), by his wife Maud. She was eldest sister and co-heiress to Baldwin de Freville, of Tamworth, inheriting that Castle and lordship. THOMAS FERRERS, Esq., died on 6 Jan. 1458/9.
Gen. n.s. 19:34-35 (1902). Baddesley Clinton (1907), pp. 115-116. C.P. 5:357 footnote a (1926). Paget (1957) 207:6-7."

Family

Elizabeth Freville b. c 1394
Children

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 64. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), CLARKE 6, p. 88. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  3. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers of Groby, co. Leicester, p. 199.
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Clarke 13: p. 210. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Thomas Ferrers, of Tamworth: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177530&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177526&tree=LEO
  7. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, pp. 87.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Freville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177531&tree=LEO
  9. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Freville 10: pp. 343-344.
  10. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 11-35, p. 15. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  11. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, CLARKE 5, p. 88.
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Henry Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00284772&tree=LEO
  13. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I7009
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Thomas Ferrers, of Tamworth: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177532&tree=LEO

Hripsime Bagratuni Princess1

F, #10644
FatherAshot IV 'Msaker/the Carnivore' Bagratuni constable of Armenia1 b. 765, d. 826
Last Edited7 Jun 2020
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Royal Highness, ancestry of the royal child, London, 1982, Moncreiffe of that Ilk, Sir Iain. 48.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hripsime: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00297821&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Ralph VI de Toeni Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford1

M, #10645, b. say 1189, d. 29 September 1239
FatherSir Roger IV de Toeni (de Conches) Lord of Flamstead2,3 b. c 1160, d. c Jan 1209
MotherConstance de Beaumont2 d. a 1226
ReferenceGAV21 EDV21
Last Edited27 Sep 2020
     Ralph VI de Toeni Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford was born say 1189.1,2 He married Petronilla de Lacy, daughter of Walter de Lacy 2nd Lord of Meath, Ireland and Margaret (Margery) de Braiose, between 1232 and 1233.4,1,2

Ralph VI de Toeni Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford died on 29 September 1239 at at sea.4,1,2
     GAV-21 EDV-21 GKJ-22.

; Ralph, called de Toeni; b probably 1189 or 1190; m c 1233 Pernel, dau of Walter de Lacy, and d c autumn 1239, leaving, with an est s (presumably dvp) and a yst s (Ralph): Roger.2 He was Crusader in 1239.4

Family

Petronilla de Lacy
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 243, de TOENI 10. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stafford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Roger IV de Conches: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177600&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 98-28, pp. 93-94. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 243, de TOENI 10:ii.
  6. [S1831] Mike Welch, "Welch email 26 July 2005 "Re: FitzWarine Question - CP amendment?"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 26 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Welch email 26 July 2005."

Sir Roger IV de Toeni (de Conches) Lord of Flamstead1

M, #10646, b. circa 1160, d. circa January 1209
FatherRalph V de Toeni (de Conches) Lord of Flamstead2 d. 1162
MotherMargaret/Marguerite de Beaumont2 b. c 1125, d. a 1185
ReferenceGAV22 EDV22
Last Edited4 Sep 2019
     Sir Roger IV de Toeni (de Conches) Lord of Flamstead was born circa 1160.3 He married Constance de Beaumont, daughter of Richard I de Beaumont Vcte de Beaumont, de Fresnay et de Sainte-Suzanne and Lucie de L'Aigle, before 22 September 1199
; Genealogy.EU (Beaumont 4 page) says m. bef 22 Sept 1199.3,1,2,4,5
Sir Roger IV de Toeni (de Conches) Lord of Flamstead died circa January 1209.3,1,2
      ; Roger, called de Toeni or de Conches; accompanied RICHARD I on Third Crusade; his remaining Norman fiefs captured from him by the King of France by 1204; m Constance, dau of Richard de Beaumont, Vicomte of Beaumont (see BEAUMONT, Bt), and d c Jan 1208/9.2 GAV-22 EDV-22 GKJ-23.

Sir Roger IV de Toeni (de Conches) Lord of Flamstead lived at Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England.6 Sir Roger IV de Toeni (de Conches) Lord of Flamstead was also known as Roger IV de Conches.5

Reference: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/4:705.5 He was Crusader, arrived in Acre about 8 June 1191. On 7 Sept. 1191 he was distinguised in Richard's victory at Arsuf, and on 10 Jan. 1191/2 he was with the king at Jaffa...The following June he fought in the battle when Richard captured a Saracen convoy at El-Khuweilfe. On 6 Jan. 1193/4 he was with the king at Speyer, and when the terms of the King's ransom were settled he gave his four-year-old son as a hostage. between 1191 and 1192.1

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 242-243, de TOENI 9. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stafford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 98-27, p. 93. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Beaumont 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/beaumont/beaumont4.html
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Roger IV de Conches: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177600&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Poyntz of Tylston Lodge Family Page.
  7. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 242-243, de TOENI 9:ii.
  8. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 242-243, de TOENI 9:iii.
  9. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 242-243, de TOENI 9:iv.
  10. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 242-243, de TOENI 9:v.
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Tosny: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00330829&tree=LEO

Ralph V de Toeni (de Conches) Lord of Flamstead1

M, #10647, d. 1162
FatherRoger III de Toeni (de Conches) Lord of Flamstead2 b. a 1104, d. bt 1157 - 1162
MotherGertrude/Ida (?) of Hainault2
ReferenceGAV23 EDV23
Last Edited25 May 2020
     Ralph V de Toeni (de Conches) Lord of Flamstead married Margaret/Marguerite de Beaumont, daughter of Sir Robert II de Beaumont Knt., 2nd Earl of Leicester, Viceroy of England and AmeciaAmice de Montfort, after 1155.3,4,2,5

Ralph V de Toeni (de Conches) Lord of Flamstead died in 1162.3,1,5
     GAV-23 EDV-23 GKJ-24.

Ralph V de Toeni (de Conches) Lord of Flamstead lived at Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England.6 Ralph V de Toeni (de Conches) Lord of Flamstead was also known as Raoul V de Tosny.5

; Ralph, called de Toeni or de Conches; m Margaret, dau of Robert, 2nd Earl of Leicester of the post-Conquest creation made in favour of Robert's f Robert de Beaumont, and d 1162.2

Family

Margaret/Marguerite de Beaumont b. c 1125, d. a 1185
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 242, de TOENI 8. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stafford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 98A-26, p. 95. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  4. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 19, de BEAUMONT-7:iv.
  5. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Beaumont 5 page (The Sires de Beaumont-le-Roger): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/beaumont/beaumont5.html
  6. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Poyntz of Tylston Lodge Family Page.
  7. [S1709] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=jweber, Jim Weber (unknown location), downloaded updated 16 July 2005 accessed 7 Aug 2005, http://whttp://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id=I03438.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida de Tosny: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00304040&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Roger III de Toeni (de Conches) Lord of Flamstead1,2

M, #10648, b. after 1104, d. between 1157 and 1162
FatherRaoul/Ralph IV de Toëny seigneur de Conches, Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford2,3,4,5 b. c 1074, d. c 1126
MotherAlice (Judith) (?) of Northumberland, Heiress of Walthamstow2,5,6 d. a 1126
ReferenceGAV24 EDV24
Last Edited25 May 2020
     Roger III de Toeni (de Conches) Lord of Flamstead was born after 1104.7,1,2 He married Gertrude/Ida (?) of Hainault, daughter of Baudouin III de Hainaut Count of Hainaut and Yolande (Jolante) (?) de Gueldre, before 9 August 1138.7,2,8

Roger III de Toeni (de Conches) Lord of Flamstead died between 1157 and 1162.7,1,2
     GAV-24 EDV-24 GKJ-25.

; Roger, called de Toeni or de Conches; b probably c 1104; m Ida, dau of Baldwin III, Count of Hainault, and d between autumn 1157 and the beginning of 1162.2

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 242, de TOENI 7. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stafford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S2164] Roglo Genealogical database, online http://roglo.eu/roglo, Raoul de Toëny: http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=en;i=102180. Hereinafter cited as Roglo Database.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raoul IV de Conches: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177602&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm#RaoulIIITosnydied1126. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice of Northumberland: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177603&tree=LEO
  7. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 98A-25, p. 95. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  8. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders2.html
  9. [S1896] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 22 June 2005: "Extended Pedigree of Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/44eb7V2WEXc/m/5ixO37yx3noJ) to e-mail address, 22 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 22 June 2005."
  10. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 242, de TOENI 7:ii.
  11. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 242, de TOENI 7:iii.
  12. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 242, de TOENI 7:iv.

Gertrude/Ida (?) of Hainault1,2

F, #10649
FatherBaudouin III de Hainaut Count of Hainaut3,2,4 b. 1088, d. 1120
MotherYolande (Jolante) (?) de Gueldre2,5 b. c 1092
ReferenceGAV24 EDV24
Last Edited29 Apr 2006

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 242, de TOENI 7. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders2.html
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stafford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Baudouin III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026391&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Yolande van Wassenberg: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026392&tree=LEO
  6. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 98A-25, p. 95. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  7. [S1896] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 22 June 2005: "Extended Pedigree of Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/44eb7V2WEXc/m/5ixO37yx3noJ) to e-mail address, 22 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 22 June 2005."
  8. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 242, de TOENI 7:ii.
  9. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 242, de TOENI 7:iii.
  10. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 242, de TOENI 7:iv.

Raoul/Ralph IV de Toëny seigneur de Conches, Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford1,2

M, #10650, b. circa 1074, d. circa 1126
FatherRaoul/Ralph III de Toëny seigneur de Conches, Lord of Flamstead3,4,5,6 b. bt 1025 - 1030, d. 24 Mar 1102
MotherIsabel (Elizabeth) de Montfort Dame de Nogent-le-Roi3,7,2,5,6 b. c 1058, d. 1092
ReferenceGAV24 EDV24
Last Edited25 May 2020
     Raoul/Ralph IV de Toëny seigneur de Conches, Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford was born circa 1074.5 He married Alice (Judith) (?) of Northumberland, Heiress of Walthamstow, daughter of Waltheof II (?) Earl of Huntingdon, Northampton & Northumberland and Judith (?) of Lens, in 1103 at Hertfordshire, England.8,1,3,9,2,5,6,10,11

Raoul/Ralph IV de Toëny seigneur de Conches, Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford was buried circa 1126 at Abbaye de Saint-Pierre-et-de-Saint-Paul, Conches-en-Ouche, Departement de l'Eure, Haute-Normandie, France; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1078, France
     DEATH     1125 (aged 46–47), Conches-en-Ouche, Departement de l'Eure, Haute-Normandie, France
     Family Members
     Parents
          Ralph III de Toeni unknown–1102
     Children
          Margaret De Toeni 1118–1185
     BURIAL     Abbaye de Saint-Pierre-et-de-Saint-Paul, Conches-en-Ouche, Departement de l'Eure, Haute-Normandie, France
     Created by: Anonymous
     Added: 9 Jan 2015
     Find a Grave Memorial 141103767.8,12
Raoul/Ralph IV de Toëny seigneur de Conches, Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford died circa 1126 at Conches-en-Ouche, Departement de l'Eure, Haute-Normandie, France.8,1,3,5,12
      ; Per Genealogics:
     "Raoul was the son of Radulf III de Tosny, sire de Tosny or Conches, and Elisabeth (Isabella) de Montfort, dame de Nogent-le-Roi.
     "In the war between the two surviving sons of William the Conqueror, Raoul chose to support the younger brother, Henry I 'Beauclerc', recently crowned king of England. On Raoul's father's death about 1102, he crossed the Channel to take up his father's possessions in England, rallying to Henry and thus allowing himself to make a good marriage to Alice of Northumberland, daughter and heiress of the Anglo-Saxon Waltheof, earl of Northumberland, Huntingdon and Northampton, and Judith of Lens. Their daughter Godehilde and son Roger III would have progeny.
     "From 1104 Raoul accompanied Henry in his campaign to conquer Normandy. After the battle of Tinchebray in 1106, the campaign led to the imprisonment of Duke Robert Curthose and his replacement by Henry, thus reuniting England and Normandy under one master as it had been at the time of William. Raoul's support for Henry was confirmed during the revolt of the barons of eastern Normandy against Henry in 1118-1119. Raoul did not rally to the rebels. Throughout the revolt, if Orderic Vitalis is to be believed, he appears to have remained neutral or flexible in his allegiances. The leader of the revolt (Raoul's uncle Amaury II de Montfort) explained to King Louis VI of France that he had to attack Normandy from the south-east since Raoul was helping him. Amaury assured him that Raoul would join his vassals with Louis' troops and open four castles to him: Conches, Acquigny, Portes, Tosny. In autumn 1119 Louis VI decided to intervene, but the events that followed showed that Raoul was not backing up Louis' force as Amaury had hoped and was not a sure supporter of the revolt. Raoul II de Gaël, one of Henry's supporters, suspected Raoul de Conches of wanting to capture him. On Henry's advice he conceded Pont-Saint-Pierre and Val de Pitres to him to keep him loyal. In 1123-1124 Amaury de Montfort began another revolt against the king, during which Raoul again remained loyal.
     "Raoul died about 1126."5

; Per Burke's: "Ralph, called either de Toeni or de Conches; m 1103 Alice, yr dau of Waltheof, Earl of Northumberland (see NORTHUMBERLAND, D, preliminary remarks), Northampton and Huntingdon, and d c 1126."3

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:705.
2. Genealogiske Tabeller over der Oldenburgske Huus, Kopenhagen, 1766, Birch, H. J. 95.5


; This is the same person as Raoul IV de Conches at Wikipedia, as Raoul III de Tosny at Wikipédia (Fr.)13,14

; Per Med Lands:
     "RAOUL [IV] de Tosny (-[1126], bur Conches Saint-Pierre). Orderic Vitalis records that “Elizabeth...uxor et Rogerius atque Radulfus filii eius” consented to the donations to Ouche made by “Radulfus...de Conchis filius Rogerii de Toenia...Normannorum...signifer”[1495]. Henry I King of England confirmed the foundation of Conches by "Rogerius senior de Toenio et filius eius Radulphus senex et Radulphus juvenis filius prædicti Radulphi senis et Rogerius filius Radulphi juvenis", quoting the donation by "Radulphus junior filius Radulphi senioris de Totteneio", dated to [1130][1496]. Henry II King of England confirmed the property of Conches abbey, including donations by "Rogeris senior de Toenio et filius eius Radulfus senex et Radulphus juvenis filius predicti Radulphi senex et Roger filius Radulphi juvenis", by charter dated 1165 or [1167/73][1497]. He succeeded his father in [1102] as Seigneur de Tosny. Orderic Vitalis records that, after the death of “Radulfus senex [=Radulfus...de Conchis filius Rogerii de Toenia]”, “Radulfus filius eius” succeeded in his father’s property[1498]. His date of death is calculated on the basis of Orderic Vitalis recording that, after the death of “Radulfus senex [=Radulfus...de Conchis filius Rogerii de Toenia]”, his son succeeded for about 24 years, adding that both were buried “in cœnobio B. Petri Castellionis”[1499].
     "m (1103) ADELISA of Huntingdon, daughter of WALTHEOF Earl of Huntingdon & his wife Judith de Lens [Boulogne] ([1073/76]-after [1126]). Her parentage is recorded by Orderic Vitalis, who also gives her marriage and names her two sons and indicates she had "several daughters" without naming them[1500]. Ingulph's Chronicle of the Abbey of Croyland records the marriage of Alice younger daughter of Judith and "Rodolph de Tournay", her dowry being "the lordship of Wilchamstowe"[1501]. She inherited Walthamstow, Essex[1502]. “Aliz de Toeni” donated "ecclesiam de Welcomstowe" to “ecclesiæ S. Trinitatis Lond.”, for the soul of “Hugonis de Toeni filii mei qui ibidem jacet sepultus…Radulphi de Toeni mariti mei…et pro incolumitate filiorum meorum Rogeri de Toeni et Simonis et filiæ meæ Isabellæ", by undated charter[1503]."
Med Lands cites:
[1495] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber V, XIII, pp. 402-3.
[1496] Gallia Christiana, XI, Instrumenta, V, col. 128.
[1497] Actes Henri II, Tome I, CCCCXXIII, p. 550.
[1498] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber V, XIII, p. 404.
[1499] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber V, XIII, p. 404.
[1500] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XI, p. 55.
[1501] Ingulph's Chronicle, p. 146.
[1502] CP XII/1 762.
[1503] Dugdale Monasticon VI.1, Christ Church, Aldgate, London, VI, p. 152.6
GAV-24 EDV-24. Raoul/Ralph IV de Toëny seigneur de Conches, Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford was also known as Raoul IV de Tosny seigneur de Conches, Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford.5 Raoul/Ralph IV de Toëny seigneur de Conches, Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford was also known as Raoul IV de Conches seigneur de Conches, Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford.5

; Per Racines et Histoire: "Raoul IV «Le Jeune» de Tosny (Ralph III «The Younger») ° ~1079 + ~1126 seigneur de Tosny (~1102), Conches et Flamstead, X 28/09/1106 (Tinchebray), conseiller du duc (Rouen, 1120), bienfaiteur des Abbayes du Bec et de Conches
     ép.1103 Alice (Adeliza alias Judith) de Huntingdon, dame de Walthamstow (Essex) ° ~1085 + après 1126 (fille de Waltheof, earl of Northampton, Northumberland and Huntingdon, et de Judith de Lens ; veuve, fait don de l’église de Walthamstow à la Holy Trinity de Londres.)15"

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