Gisele de Chevreuse1,2
F, #47551, b. 995
Father | (?) de Chevreuse2 |
Reference | GAV28 EDV29 |
Last Edited | 9 Aug 2009 |
Gisele de Chevreuse married Yves II de Beaumont Count of Beaumont, son of Yves I de Beaumont and Geila (?), before 981.1,2
Gisele de Chevreuse was born in 995 at Beaumont-Sur-Oise, Normandy, France.1
GAV-28 EDV-29.
; per Racines et Histoire: "soeur de Milon de Chevreuse."2
Gisele de Chevreuse was born in 995 at Beaumont-Sur-Oise, Normandy, France.1
GAV-28 EDV-29.
; per Racines et Histoire: "soeur de Milon de Chevreuse."2
Family | Yves II de Beaumont Count of Beaumont b. 975 |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaumont-dur-Oise.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
Yves I de Beaumont1,2
M, #47552, b. 945
Reference | GAV29 EDV30 |
Last Edited | 8 Aug 2009 |
Yves I de Beaumont married Geila (?)
; her 2nd husband.2 Yves I de Beaumont was born in 945 at Normandy, France.1
GAV-29 EDV-30.
; her 2nd husband.2 Yves I de Beaumont was born in 945 at Normandy, France.1
GAV-29 EDV-30.
Family | Geila (?) |
Child |
Citations
- [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaumont-dur-Oise.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
Robert III de Stuteville Sheriff of York, Lord of Cottenham1,2
M, #47553, b. circa 1120, d. circa 1183
Father | Robert II 'Fronteboeuf' (1) d'Estouteville seigneur d’Estouteville et de Valmont2,3,4,5,6,7 b. c 1075, d. c 1140 |
Mother | Erneburga (?)5,4,8,6,7 b. 1083 |
Reference | GAV23 |
Last Edited | 10 Jun 2020 |
Robert III de Stuteville Sheriff of York, Lord of Cottenham married Helewise (?)4,5,6,9
Robert III de Stuteville Sheriff of York, Lord of Cottenham was born circa 1120 at Skipwith, Yorkshire, England.6
Robert III de Stuteville Sheriff of York, Lord of Cottenham died circa 1183.6
Reference: Genealogics cites:
Reference: Weis [1992:87] Line 88-26.10
; Per Stewart email [2018]:
"On Monday, January 29, 2018 at 5:49:24 AM UTC+11, celticp...@gmail.com wrote:
> Dear Joe ~
> There is a good account of the Stuteville family in Early Yorkshire Charters: Volume 9, The Stuteville Fee by William Farrer, Charles Travis Clay. These authors are reliable and can be trusted.
> There is a preview copy of this book on Google Books. I note that on an index on page 289, Hawise de Stuteville is assigned all three marriages. This page may be viewed at the following weblink:
> https://books.google.com/books?id=TbHFxV8bXuMC&pg=PA289
> The actual material you desire is found on pages 8 and 9 in the book which you may wish to consult. Unfortunately these pages are not included in the preview copy of this book.
"The part about Helewise on pp 8-9 is copied below. Peter Stewart
"[page 8] Robert de Stuteville III also had two daughters: (1) Burga, who married William de Vescy and had Langton as her marriage portion ... (2) Helewise. [2] She married, first, William de Lancaster II, lord of Kendal,[3] by whom she had a daughter Helewise ; king Henry II gave this daughter in marriage to Gilbert son of Roger son of Reinfred, by whom she was the mother of William de Lancaster III, lord of Kendal.[4] William de Lancaster II died in 1184;[5] and Helewise his widow married, secondly, Hugh de Moreville, lord of the barony of Burgh, Cumberland, son of Simon de Moreville and his wife Ada Engaine;[6] by him she had two daughters, Ada who married Richard de Lucy, lord of Egremont, and Joan who married Richard Gernun, nephew of William Briwere.[7] Hugh de Moreville died in 1202, when William Briwere gave 500 marks for the wardship and marriage of the younger daughter and her inheritance which Hugh had held at his death.[8] In 1204 an agreement was made between William Briwere and Helewise de Stuteville for her dower from Hugh de Moreville's lands, by which William quitclaimed to her the manors of Kirkoswald, near Penrith, and Lazonby and she quitclaimed the manor of Isell (Hisale).[9] At Michaelmas 1202 Helewise de Stuteville accounted for 60 marks not to be constrained to be married, and should she wish to marry that should be by the counsel of the king or the chief justice, and for having her right of dower.[10] She married, thirdly, William son of Ranulf, lord of Greystoke; and [page 9] from Thomas her son descended the later lords of Greystoke.[1] William son of Ranulf died in 1209, when Robert de Vipont owed 500 marks and 5 palfreys for the custody of his land and heirs, and for the marriage of Helewise de Stuteville, his widow.[2]
"In 1218-19 Helewise de Stuteville was successful in her claim that Robert de Ros had disseised her of common of pasture in Bielby [E.R., wap. Harthill].[3] In 1219 she held land in Harthill wapentake, worth 16li. yearly.[4] This probably represented her dower from her third husband’s land, Bielby forming a part of it.[5] In the same year, being in the king's gift and unmarried, reference being made to her fine with king John for her marriage, she held land in Cumberland worth 30li. yearly;[6] and in the returns for co. Lancaster in 1226-28 she held land in the wapentake of Lonsdale worth 100s. and in that of Amounderness worth 10s.[7]
page 8 notes:
page 9 notes:
; Per Genealogics:
"Robert III was the son of Robert II d'Estouteville and Ernaburga. On 22 August 1138 he fought at the Battle of the Standard in which English forces repelled a Scottish army on Cowton Moor near Northallerton in Yorkshire. In 1147 he instigated claims to recover property confiscated from his grandfather. Shortly after 1154 he was granted 10 knights' fees by Nigel de Mowbray, which included the manor of Kirkby Moorside and land in Warwickshire. He was supervisor of the works of Bamburgh castle in 1166 and sheriff of Yorkshire from Easter 1170 to Michaelmas 1175. He was benefactor to the abbeys of St. Mary's York, Byland, Rievaulx and Meaux and the priory of Durham. A charter of confirmation to Rievaulx abbey c.1160-1183 for the health of his soul and the souls of Robert de Stuteville his grandfather, Robert his father, Erneburga his mother and Helewise his wife, and with the consent of his son William, presents the Stuteville family over four generations.
"Before 1145 he married Helewise whose parentage is not known and they founded Keldholm priory, a Benedictine nunnery. As 'domina Helewis uxor Roberti de Stueuilla' with Osmund 'filius ejus' she witnessed a charter of William de Vescy to the brethren of Farne Island in about 1183. Robert had an interest in Cowesby as shown by a charter of notification dated around 1164-74, by Roger, archbishop of York of the settlement of the controversy between Hugh, bishop of Durham and Robert de Stuteville, relating to the chapel of Cowesby. The dispute continued, however, after his death under the aegis of his son Osmund. Robert died in 1183. Of his sons, Nicholas (Nicholas I Stuteville, of Liddell) is recorded as having progeny."6
; During the reign of King Henry II Robert laid claim to the barony of Roger de Moubray which, on the rebellion of his father, had been given to Nigel de Albini, father of the said Roger de Moubray, and part of which he received back by arbitration. He married Erneburga, daughter and heiress of Hugh, son of Baldric, a great Saxon Thane, and, among other lands, had the lordship of Skipwith, or Skipwic as anciently written, in the East Riding of Yorkshire.12
; Per Racines et Histoire (Estouteville): “Robert III d’Estouteville (de Stuteville) ° ~1082 + après 1116 Lord of Cottenham
ép. Erneberge FitzBaldrick ° ~1085 Lady of Skipwith (fille d’Hugh FitzBaldrick)”.13
; Per Med Lands:
"ROBERT [III] de Stuteville, son of ROBERT [II] d’Estouteville & his [second] wife Erneburg --- (-1183). "Robertus de Stutevilla" confirmed donations to Rievaulx of "terram de Houetona", for the souls of "Roberti de Stutevilla avi mei et Roberti patris mei et Erneburgæ matris meæ et Helewisæ uxoris meæ", with the consent of "Willelmi filii mei et aliorum filiorum meorum", by undated charter witnessed by "…Johanne de Stutevilla, Nicholao de Stutevilla, Rogero de Stutevilla, Bartholomæo de Stutevilla…"[824]. The Chronicle of Meaux, in Yorkshire, records that "Robertus…de Stutevylla, quondam dominus de Cotyngham" donated a mill "super ripam de Hullo, in territorio de Cotyngham" to the abbey[825]. Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, record that "Robertus de Stoteville" held eight knights’ fees from "Rogeri de Munbray" in Yorkshire[826]. Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, record that "Osmundus de Stuteville" held two parts of one knight’s fee from "Robertus de Stuteville" in Yorkshire[827]. A charter of King John dated 3 Feb 1200 confirmed donations to Keldholm Priory, Yorkshire, including those made by “Roberti de Stutevill, et concessione Willielmi de Stutevill hæredis sui”[828]. The Red Book of the Exchequer refers to "Robertus de Stoteville cviii s iv d" in Yorkshire in [1167/68][829]. "Roberto de Stutevilla, Willelmo de Stutevilla" subscribed the charter dated 1168 under which Henry II King of England confirmed the property "in manerio de Hinton" of "Roberto de Basoges" granted to him by "comes Conanus"[830]. The Red Book of the Exchequer refers to "Robertus de Stoteville viii l, de novo ii s vi d" in Yorkshire in [1171/72][831]. "…Roberto de Stut[evilla]…" subscribed the charter dated [1172/78] under which Henry II King of England granted concessions to the lepers at Mont-aux-Malades[832]. King Henry II confirmed “manerium de Leestune...et Uptonam...et [revenue from] terra de Selfleta” to “Ranulfo de Glamvilla” by undated charter, witnessed by “Ricardo de Luci, Hugone de Cressi, Roberto de Stutevill, Rogero de Stutevill, Willielmo de Stutevill”[833].
"m HELWISE, daughter of ---. Her marriage is confirmed by the undated charter under which her son "Robertus de Stutevilla" confirmed donations to Rievaulx of "terram de Houetona", for the souls of "Roberti de Stutevilla avi mei et Roberti patris mei et Erneburgæ matris meæ et Helewisæ uxoris meæ"[834]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Bevans on Soc Gen Med: "ROBERT III de Stuteville of Cottingham, Kettleby Thorpe, Yorks. and Bigby, Lincs. In 1138 he fought at the Battle of the Standard. Instigated claims to recover property confiscated from his grandfather in 1147 and was granted 10 knights' fees by Nigel de Mowbray which included the manor of Kirkby Moorside and land in Warwickshire shortly after 1154. Supervisor of the works of Bamburgh castle in 1166 and sheriff of Yorkshire from Easter 1170 to Michaelmas 1175. Benefactor to the abbeys of St Mary's York, Byland, Rievaulx and Meaux and the priory of Durham. A charter of confirmation to Rievaulx abbey c.1160-1183 for the health of his soul and the souls of Robert de Stuteville his grandfather, Robert his father, Erneburga his mother and Helewise his wife, and with the consent of his son William, presents the Stuteville family over four generations. ["Robertus de Stutevilla.sciatis me dedissee et confirmasse Deo et Ecclesiae S. Mariae Rievallis, pro salute animae meae, et Roberti de Stutevilla, avi mei, et Roberti, patris m mei, et Erneburge, matris meae, et Helewisae uxoris meae, in perpetuam elemosinam, concessu Willelmi filii mei, et aliorum filiorum meorum, totam terram de Houetona." J.C.Atkinson (ed.), 'Rievaulx Cartulary', p.80]. He married, before 1145, [22993] Helewise whose parentage is not known and they founded Keldholm priory, a Benedictine nunnery. As 'domina Helewis uxor Roberti de Stuteuilla' with Osmund 'filius ejus' she witnessed a charter of William de Vescy to the brethren of Farne Island in about 1183. Robert had an interest in Cowesby as shown by a charter of notification dated around 1164-74, by Roger archbishop of York of the settlement of the controversy between Hugh bishop of Durham and Robert de Stuteville relating to the chapel of Cowesby. The dispute continued, however, after his death under the aegis of his son Osmund. Robert died in 1183.
[Sources: Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants'. p.724 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8, p.5-15, 90, 95 ; Sanders, 'English Baronies: a study of their origin and descent 1086-1327', p.37]"4,5
; Per Rosie Bevans post 3 Sept 2002 on Soc Gen Med:
"The following pedigree of Stuteville of Long Lawford is my interpretation. Caveat emptor.
1. Robert II de Stuteville=Erneburga 2.Robert III de Stuteville d.1183=Hawise
2. John de Stuteville, lord of Long Lawford, Newbold and Cosford d. poss bef 1184=Agnes
3. John Stuteville d.s.p.poss 1184
3. Roger d.s.p.1209-1214
3. Burga d.aft 1184 = William Pantulf
4. William Pantulf
5. Isolda (widow in 1217)=Walter de Tateshall
5.Eustachia
4. Roger Pantulf succeeded Roger de Stuteville
5.William Pantulf d.s.p.
5. Burgia
5.Emma
4. Philip
3. Joan = Meldred fitz Dolfin
4. Robert fitz Meldred d.1253
5. Geofrey de Neville
= Gilbert le Halsart d.1196
4.Gilbert Halsart/Hansard
5.Gilbert Hansard.14
; In 2002, Rosie Bevan posted two particular messages on the Soc.Genealogy.Medieval list that have helped me enormously in clarifying the frst five generations of the brance of the d'Estouteville/de Stuteville family that settled in England from Normandy. I have here merged her two messages into one, to simplify understanding the lineage she presents. The originals are available in the Google Groups archives (see footnote and sources).
Per combined Soc Gen Med posts by Rosie Bevan:
"This is a continuation of a thread started by John Ravilious on 2 July 2002 investigating the Stuteville ancestry of Margery de Stuteville.
"1. ROBERT I de Stuteville of Etoutteville, Seine-Maritime, arr. Yvetot, cant. Yerville and Cottingham, Yorks. He was amongst those granted the lands forfeited by Hugh fitz Baldric in Yorkshire and Lincolnshire soon after 1087 but lost them owing to his support of Robert Curthose, and was captured at the battle of Tinchebrai in 1106 after which he was condemned to be imprisoned for life. The lands were subsequently granted to Nigel d'Aubigny from whom they descended to Roger de Mowbray, but partially recovered by Robert I's grandson, Robert III de Stuteville. He was a benefactor of Durham and an entry in the Liber Vitae makes mention of himself, his wife Beatrice (whose parentage is unknown) and sons Robert, Gradulf and William. In a claim made by his great grandson William, he was described as Robert Grandboeuf. He was also father of Emma, second wife of Robert fitz Hugh de Grandmesnil whose six children are named in the Durham Liber Vitae. Benefactor of St Mary's abbey, York, Durham priory and the church at Lincoln.
Issue:
"[Sources: Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants'. p.723 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8, p.1-2 ; Sanders, 'English Baronies: a study of their origin and descent 1086-1327', p.37]
"2. ROBERT II de Stuteville. Not believed to have held lands in England. A supporter of Robert Curthose with his father, he was captured at St.Pierre-sur-Dive shortly before the battle of Tinchebrai. He was married to Erneburga whose parentage is unknown.
Issue:
"[Sources : Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants' p.723 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8, p.2-5]
"3. ROBERT III de Stuteville of Cottingham, Kettleby Thorpe, Yorks. and Bigby, Lincs. In 1138 he fought at the Battle of the Standard. Instigated claims to recover property confiscated from his grandfather in 1147 and was granted 10 knights' fees by Nigel de Mowbray which included the manor of Kirkby Moorside and land in Warwickshire shortly after 1154. Supervisor of the works of Bamburgh castle in 1166 and sheriff of Yorkshire from Easter 1170 to Michaelmas 1175. Benefactor to the abbeys of St Mary's York, Byland, Rievaulx and Meaux and the priory of Durham. A charter of confirmation to Rievaulx abbey c.1160-1183 for the health of his soul and the souls of Robert de Stuteville his grandfather, Robert his father, Erneburga his mother and Helewise his wife, and with the consent of his son William, presents the Stuteville family over four generations. ["Robertus de Stutevilla.sciatis me dedissee et confirmasse Deo et Ecclesiae S. Mariae Rievallis, pro salute animae meae, et Roberti de Stutevilla, avi mei, et Roberti, patris m mei, et Erneburge, matris meae, et Helewisae uxoris meae. in perpetuam elemosinam, concessu Willelmi filii mei, et aliorum filiorum meorum, totam terram de Houetona." J.C.Atkinson (ed.), 'Rievaulx Cartulary', p.80]. He married, before 1145, Helewise whose parentage is not known and they founded Keldholm priory, a Benedictine nunnery. As 'domina Helewis uxor Roberti de Stuteuilla' with Osmund 'filius ejus' she witnessed a charter of William de Vescy to the brethren of Farne Island in about 1183. Robert had an interest in Cowesby as shown by a charter of notification dated around 1164-74, by Roger archbishop of York of the settlement of the controversy between Hugh bishop of Durham and Robert de Stuteville relating to the chapel of Cowesby. The dispute continued, however, after his death under the aegis of his son Osmund. Robert died in 1183.
Issue:
"[Sources: Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants'. p.724 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8, p.5-15, 90, 95 ; Sanders, 'English Baronies: a study of their origin and descent 1086-1327', p.37]
"4. NICHOLAS de Stuteville of Liddel. In 1174 he was in possession of Liddel, Cumberland when the castle was captured by William the Lion. In 1205 he made a fine of 10,000 marks for having his inheritance of everything William, his brother, held, except Knaresborough castle and Boroughbridge which was kept in the king's hands until the fine was paid. It was never paid and those properties passed from the Stuteville family. Nicholas married as his second wife Gunnora, sister and coheir of Ralph d'Aubigny, widow of Gilbert de Gant (d.1191). Gunnora's father was Ralph d'Aubigny, the elder, younger brother of William d'Aubigny 'Brito' of Belvoir. In 1197 a fine was made recognising their right to 15 knights' fees in Auborn and Binbrook, Lincs.and North Dalton, Upper and Lower Naburn, Yorks.as Gunnor's inheritance. An unknown first wife was mother of his sons Robert and Nicholas. Their relationship is established in a charter of notification by four witnesses who stated they were present when Nicholas de Stuteville and his sons, Robert and Nicholas, bound themselves to give 100s rent to Kedholme priory. Nicholas is presumed to be one of the confederate barons who met at Stamford at Easter 1216, captured at Lincoln on 20 May 1217 and dead by 30 March 1218.
Issue:
[EYC ix p. 13-18,124 ; Stevenson. Liber Vitae, p.15]
"5. NICHOLAS II de Stuteville. Recorded in the Pipe Roll at Michaelmas 1209 as Nicholas son of Nicholas. After the death of his father he administered the inheritance of his nephew Eustace. Married Dervorguilla, da. of Roland of Galloway, who brought an interest in Whissendine, Rutland to the family in frank marriage. Nicholas died shortly before 19 October 1233 at the priory of St Andrew, York. On 19 November 1233 the sheriff of York was ordered to take his lands which had belonged to him, including the manor of Cottingham, and to assign to Hugh Wake and Joan his wife, Nicholas' elder daughter and heir her reasonable share and seisin, and similarly to William Mastac the
king's kinsman, to whom the king had given the marriage of Margaret, his other daughter and heir.
Issue
[EYC ix p. 18-23 ; Sanders, Baronies p. 129 ; William Brown, Yorkshire Inquisitions, v.1 p.237-253 ; CP XII/2 p.299]
"4. OSMUND de Stuteville of Cowesby, with holdings in Kepwith, East Ness and Newsham, Brantingham, Riplingham, Newbald, Stillingfleet, Yorks. and Gressenhall, Norfolk. Born bef 1145. Holding two thirds of a fee of Robert de Stuteville, in Yorkshire in 1166. As Cowesby was held by Hugh fitz Baldric at Domesday, the estate was very likely part of that recovered by Robert III de Stuteville, father of Osmund. In a list of benefactions to Rievaulx abbey, there is mention of a gift by Osmund, which William de Stuteville his brother confirmed as overlord, of facilities at Cowesby including a road which the monks made in the time of his father. ["Donationem.quas Osmundus de Stutevilla.fecit Deo.de via de Causeby infra villam et extra, quantum territorium ejusdem villae durat, et nominatim de illa via quam ipsi fecerunt in tempore patris ipsius Osmundi, ad orietalem partem ejusdem villae in ascencu montis, utendum libere sibi et fratribus suis et serventibus et carectis et summaries et animalibus et averiis suis, omni tempore, quantum terra de causeby durat, infra villam et extra, tam versus Leche quam ex alia parte ejusdem villae: Concessionem .quas Willelmus de Stutevilla .. Fecit Deo.de via de Kausebi quam frater suus Osmundus dedit illis." J.C.Atkinson (ed.), 'Rievaulx Cartulary', p.290]. Between 1189 and 1192 Osmund quitclaimed his rights in Cowesby chapel after a settlement with Hugh bishop of Durham. He married Isabel, heiress of the family descended from Wimar, tenant of Gressenhall and Elsing, Norfolk. He died on crusade in Joppa in August 1192. Isabel married secondly William de Huntingfield, following which there was a protracted suit over her dower with William de Stuteville, Osmund's elder brother. She died in 1209.
Issue:
"[Sources: Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants'. p.723 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8 p.34-35, 143]
"5. WILLIAM de Stuteville of Cowesby, Yorks. and Gressenhall, Norfolk. As William, son of Osmund de Stuteville he confirmed to Fountains abbey the gift of half a carucate of land in Newsham in the parish of Kirby Wiske. In 1216 he occurs as a knight of the earl of Warenne. On 5 Nov 1219 the king gave to him in marriage Margery (also known as Margaret), daughter and heir of Hugh de Say, and widow of Hugh de Ferrers d.s.p. 1204 and Robert de Mortimer d 1219, obtaining in her right the honour of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, which he held until his death in 1259. On 8 May 1229 he was granted a yearly fair and a weekly market at his manor at Gressenhall. In 1232 as one of the barons of the Marches, he delivered up Osmund his son as hostage for his fidelity. In Jan 1256-7 he confirmed to Castle Acre priory all the gifts and confirmations of Osmund de Stuteville, his father, and Isabel his mother and of Wimer, Roger his son and all his ancestors. The writs for his inquisitions post mortem are dated 20 May 1259 when Sir Hugh de Mortimer, son of Margery, was found to be heir to property in Shropshire and Worcestershire which William held by courtesy of England.
Issue:
"[Sources: Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8 p.35-37, 143 ; Sanders, 'English Baronies: a study of their origin and descent 1086-1327', p.75 ; CIPM v.1 no.439 ; CIPM v.2 no.133 ; CP V :539; Blomefield, County of Norfolk, v.8 p.201-203; v.8 p.512]
Cheers, Rosie."15,16
Robert III de Stuteville Sheriff of York, Lord of Cottenham was born circa 1120 at Skipwith, Yorkshire, England.6
Robert III de Stuteville Sheriff of York, Lord of Cottenham died circa 1183.6
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) XIII 103.
2. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America bef.1700, 7th Edition, 1992, Weis, Frederick Lewis. 87.6
GAV-23 EDV-26. 2. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America bef.1700, 7th Edition, 1992, Weis, Frederick Lewis. 87.6
Reference: Weis [1992:87] Line 88-26.10
; Per Stewart email [2018]:
"On Monday, January 29, 2018 at 5:49:24 AM UTC+11, celticp...@gmail.com wrote:
> Dear Joe ~
> There is a good account of the Stuteville family in Early Yorkshire Charters: Volume 9, The Stuteville Fee by William Farrer, Charles Travis Clay. These authors are reliable and can be trusted.
> There is a preview copy of this book on Google Books. I note that on an index on page 289, Hawise de Stuteville is assigned all three marriages. This page may be viewed at the following weblink:
> https://books.google.com/books?id=TbHFxV8bXuMC&pg=PA289
> The actual material you desire is found on pages 8 and 9 in the book which you may wish to consult. Unfortunately these pages are not included in the preview copy of this book.
"The part about Helewise on pp 8-9 is copied below. Peter Stewart
"[page 8] Robert de Stuteville III also had two daughters: (1) Burga, who married William de Vescy and had Langton as her marriage portion ... (2) Helewise. [2] She married, first, William de Lancaster II, lord of Kendal,[3] by whom she had a daughter Helewise ; king Henry II gave this daughter in marriage to Gilbert son of Roger son of Reinfred, by whom she was the mother of William de Lancaster III, lord of Kendal.[4] William de Lancaster II died in 1184;[5] and Helewise his widow married, secondly, Hugh de Moreville, lord of the barony of Burgh, Cumberland, son of Simon de Moreville and his wife Ada Engaine;[6] by him she had two daughters, Ada who married Richard de Lucy, lord of Egremont, and Joan who married Richard Gernun, nephew of William Briwere.[7] Hugh de Moreville died in 1202, when William Briwere gave 500 marks for the wardship and marriage of the younger daughter and her inheritance which Hugh had held at his death.[8] In 1204 an agreement was made between William Briwere and Helewise de Stuteville for her dower from Hugh de Moreville's lands, by which William quitclaimed to her the manors of Kirkoswald, near Penrith, and Lazonby and she quitclaimed the manor of Isell (Hisale).[9] At Michaelmas 1202 Helewise de Stuteville accounted for 60 marks not to be constrained to be married, and should she wish to marry that should be by the counsel of the king or the chief justice, and for having her right of dower.[10] She married, thirdly, William son of Ranulf, lord of Greystoke; and [page 9] from Thomas her son descended the later lords of Greystoke.[1] William son of Ranulf died in 1209, when Robert de Vipont owed 500 marks and 5 palfreys for the custody of his land and heirs, and for the marriage of Helewise de Stuteville, his widow.[2]
"In 1218-19 Helewise de Stuteville was successful in her claim that Robert de Ros had disseised her of common of pasture in Bielby [E.R., wap. Harthill].[3] In 1219 she held land in Harthill wapentake, worth 16li. yearly.[4] This probably represented her dower from her third husband’s land, Bielby forming a part of it.[5] In the same year, being in the king's gift and unmarried, reference being made to her fine with king John for her marriage, she held land in Cumberland worth 30li. yearly;[6] and in the returns for co. Lancaster in 1226-28 she held land in the wapentake of Lonsdale worth 100s. and in that of Amounderness worth 10s.[7]
page 8 notes:
[2] Although there seems to be no documentary proof of her parentage, no great doubt need be entertained. Dodsworth stated that the name of her father was Robert de Stuteville (Farrer, Lancs. Pipe Rolls and Early Charters, p. 124n); ; and the name of Robert de Stuteville Ill's wife is significant. She must, however, have been considerably younger than Robert's eldest son.
[3] William de Lancaster issued a charter for the hospital of Cockersand at the petition of Helewise his wife (Mon. Ang., vi, 909).
[4] Farrer, Lancs. Pipe Rolls and Early Charters, pp. 395-6; and V.C.H. Lancs., i, 361.
[5] Chron. Rob. de Torigni. Rolls Ser., p. 309.
[6] Wetherhal Reg., Cumb. and West. Ant. and Arch. Soc., p. 188n.
[7] Complete Peerage, new ed., viii, 248.
[8] Rot. de Obl., p. 184.
[9] Yorks. Assize Rolls, Y.R.S., p. 6, where the identification of Hisale as Hessle should be amended. In 1203 Briwere had been a plaintiff against Helewise for the manor of Kirkoswald (Curia Regis Rolls, ii, 263). In 1220 Helewise was engaged in a plea relating to the advowson of the church of that place (ibid., viii, 370).
[10] Pipe Roll 4 John, p. 257, Cumberland roll; the balance of 40 marks was paid in the following year (ibid. 5 John, p. 255).
[3] William de Lancaster issued a charter for the hospital of Cockersand at the petition of Helewise his wife (Mon. Ang., vi, 909).
[4] Farrer, Lancs. Pipe Rolls and Early Charters, pp. 395-6; and V.C.H. Lancs., i, 361.
[5] Chron. Rob. de Torigni. Rolls Ser., p. 309.
[6] Wetherhal Reg., Cumb. and West. Ant. and Arch. Soc., p. 188n.
[7] Complete Peerage, new ed., viii, 248.
[8] Rot. de Obl., p. 184.
[9] Yorks. Assize Rolls, Y.R.S., p. 6, where the identification of Hisale as Hessle should be amended. In 1203 Briwere had been a plaintiff against Helewise for the manor of Kirkoswald (Curia Regis Rolls, ii, 263). In 1220 Helewise was engaged in a plea relating to the advowson of the church of that place (ibid., viii, 370).
[10] Pipe Roll 4 John, p. 257, Cumberland roll; the balance of 40 marks was paid in the following year (ibid. 5 John, p. 255).
page 9 notes:
[1] See the Rev. James Wilson’s account of the Grevstokes in Ancestor, vi, pp. 125-6; and cf. E.Y.C., ii, p. 507.
[2] Pipe Roll 11 John, p. 96.
[3] Rolls of the Justices . . . Yorks., Selden Soc., no. 425.
[4] Bk. of Fees, p. 247.
[5] E.Y.C., ii, p. 509. In 1226-27 she gave 5 marks for making bounds with the abbot of St. Mary's for her land in 'Herletona' and his in Cottingwith [E.R.] which ought to be made by the assent of Thomas son of William [her son], her warrantor of her dower (Bracton's Note Book, no. 1871); the place is Ellerton just to the south of the Cottingwiths, and not Harlington, as indexed; the Greystokes had an interest in Ellerton (Feudal Aids, vi, 49); and a final concord relating to these bounds between Cottingwith and Ellerton, Feb. 1226-7, was made in her presence (Yorks. Fines, 1218-31, p. 108).
[6] Bk. of Fees, p. 266; evidently her dower from her second husband's land.
[7] Ibid., p. 366; presumably her dower from her first husband's land. There is a reference to a payment made by Hugh de Moreville in respect of this at Mich. 1200; it included land in Garstang (Pipe Roll 2 John, p. 239, and Farrer’s notes in Lancs. Pipe Rolls, p. 124).11
He was Sheriff of York.12 [2] Pipe Roll 11 John, p. 96.
[3] Rolls of the Justices . . . Yorks., Selden Soc., no. 425.
[4] Bk. of Fees, p. 247.
[5] E.Y.C., ii, p. 509. In 1226-27 she gave 5 marks for making bounds with the abbot of St. Mary's for her land in 'Herletona' and his in Cottingwith [E.R.] which ought to be made by the assent of Thomas son of William [her son], her warrantor of her dower (Bracton's Note Book, no. 1871); the place is Ellerton just to the south of the Cottingwiths, and not Harlington, as indexed; the Greystokes had an interest in Ellerton (Feudal Aids, vi, 49); and a final concord relating to these bounds between Cottingwith and Ellerton, Feb. 1226-7, was made in her presence (Yorks. Fines, 1218-31, p. 108).
[6] Bk. of Fees, p. 266; evidently her dower from her second husband's land.
[7] Ibid., p. 366; presumably her dower from her first husband's land. There is a reference to a payment made by Hugh de Moreville in respect of this at Mich. 1200; it included land in Garstang (Pipe Roll 2 John, p. 239, and Farrer’s notes in Lancs. Pipe Rolls, p. 124).11
; Per Genealogics:
"Robert III was the son of Robert II d'Estouteville and Ernaburga. On 22 August 1138 he fought at the Battle of the Standard in which English forces repelled a Scottish army on Cowton Moor near Northallerton in Yorkshire. In 1147 he instigated claims to recover property confiscated from his grandfather. Shortly after 1154 he was granted 10 knights' fees by Nigel de Mowbray, which included the manor of Kirkby Moorside and land in Warwickshire. He was supervisor of the works of Bamburgh castle in 1166 and sheriff of Yorkshire from Easter 1170 to Michaelmas 1175. He was benefactor to the abbeys of St. Mary's York, Byland, Rievaulx and Meaux and the priory of Durham. A charter of confirmation to Rievaulx abbey c.1160-1183 for the health of his soul and the souls of Robert de Stuteville his grandfather, Robert his father, Erneburga his mother and Helewise his wife, and with the consent of his son William, presents the Stuteville family over four generations.
"Before 1145 he married Helewise whose parentage is not known and they founded Keldholm priory, a Benedictine nunnery. As 'domina Helewis uxor Roberti de Stueuilla' with Osmund 'filius ejus' she witnessed a charter of William de Vescy to the brethren of Farne Island in about 1183. Robert had an interest in Cowesby as shown by a charter of notification dated around 1164-74, by Roger, archbishop of York of the settlement of the controversy between Hugh, bishop of Durham and Robert de Stuteville, relating to the chapel of Cowesby. The dispute continued, however, after his death under the aegis of his son Osmund. Robert died in 1183. Of his sons, Nicholas (Nicholas I Stuteville, of Liddell) is recorded as having progeny."6
; During the reign of King Henry II Robert laid claim to the barony of Roger de Moubray which, on the rebellion of his father, had been given to Nigel de Albini, father of the said Roger de Moubray, and part of which he received back by arbitration. He married Erneburga, daughter and heiress of Hugh, son of Baldric, a great Saxon Thane, and, among other lands, had the lordship of Skipwith, or Skipwic as anciently written, in the East Riding of Yorkshire.12
; Per Racines et Histoire (Estouteville): “Robert III d’Estouteville (de Stuteville) ° ~1082 + après 1116 Lord of Cottenham
ép. Erneberge FitzBaldrick ° ~1085 Lady of Skipwith (fille d’Hugh FitzBaldrick)”.13
; Per Med Lands:
"ROBERT [III] de Stuteville, son of ROBERT [II] d’Estouteville & his [second] wife Erneburg --- (-1183). "Robertus de Stutevilla" confirmed donations to Rievaulx of "terram de Houetona", for the souls of "Roberti de Stutevilla avi mei et Roberti patris mei et Erneburgæ matris meæ et Helewisæ uxoris meæ", with the consent of "Willelmi filii mei et aliorum filiorum meorum", by undated charter witnessed by "…Johanne de Stutevilla, Nicholao de Stutevilla, Rogero de Stutevilla, Bartholomæo de Stutevilla…"[824]. The Chronicle of Meaux, in Yorkshire, records that "Robertus…de Stutevylla, quondam dominus de Cotyngham" donated a mill "super ripam de Hullo, in territorio de Cotyngham" to the abbey[825]. Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, record that "Robertus de Stoteville" held eight knights’ fees from "Rogeri de Munbray" in Yorkshire[826]. Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, record that "Osmundus de Stuteville" held two parts of one knight’s fee from "Robertus de Stuteville" in Yorkshire[827]. A charter of King John dated 3 Feb 1200 confirmed donations to Keldholm Priory, Yorkshire, including those made by “Roberti de Stutevill, et concessione Willielmi de Stutevill hæredis sui”[828]. The Red Book of the Exchequer refers to "Robertus de Stoteville cviii s iv d" in Yorkshire in [1167/68][829]. "Roberto de Stutevilla, Willelmo de Stutevilla" subscribed the charter dated 1168 under which Henry II King of England confirmed the property "in manerio de Hinton" of "Roberto de Basoges" granted to him by "comes Conanus"[830]. The Red Book of the Exchequer refers to "Robertus de Stoteville viii l, de novo ii s vi d" in Yorkshire in [1171/72][831]. "…Roberto de Stut[evilla]…" subscribed the charter dated [1172/78] under which Henry II King of England granted concessions to the lepers at Mont-aux-Malades[832]. King Henry II confirmed “manerium de Leestune...et Uptonam...et [revenue from] terra de Selfleta” to “Ranulfo de Glamvilla” by undated charter, witnessed by “Ricardo de Luci, Hugone de Cressi, Roberto de Stutevill, Rogero de Stutevill, Willielmo de Stutevill”[833].
"m HELWISE, daughter of ---. Her marriage is confirmed by the undated charter under which her son "Robertus de Stutevilla" confirmed donations to Rievaulx of "terram de Houetona", for the souls of "Roberti de Stutevilla avi mei et Roberti patris mei et Erneburgæ matris meæ et Helewisæ uxoris meæ"[834]."
Med Lands cites:
[824] Rievaulx, XLIII, p. 21.
[825] Chronica Melsa, Vol. I, IX, p. 99.
[826] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Certificationes factæ de feodis militum, p. 419.
[827] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Certificationes factæ de feodis militum, p. 429.
[828] Dugdale Monasticon V, Keldholm Priory, Yorkshire, II, p. 665.
[829] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Knights fees, p. 40.
[830] Actes Henri II, Tome I, CCLXXII, p. 418.
[831] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Knights fees, p. 53.
[832] Actes Henri II, Tome II, DXXIV, p. 87.
[833] Hugo (1736), Tome II, Probationes, col. xxvi.
[834] Rievaulx, XLIII, p. 21.7
[825] Chronica Melsa, Vol. I, IX, p. 99.
[826] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Certificationes factæ de feodis militum, p. 419.
[827] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Certificationes factæ de feodis militum, p. 429.
[828] Dugdale Monasticon V, Keldholm Priory, Yorkshire, II, p. 665.
[829] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Knights fees, p. 40.
[830] Actes Henri II, Tome I, CCLXXII, p. 418.
[831] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Knights fees, p. 53.
[832] Actes Henri II, Tome II, DXXIV, p. 87.
[833] Hugo (1736), Tome II, Probationes, col. xxvi.
[834] Rievaulx, XLIII, p. 21.7
; Per Bevans on Soc Gen Med: "ROBERT III de Stuteville of Cottingham, Kettleby Thorpe, Yorks. and Bigby, Lincs. In 1138 he fought at the Battle of the Standard. Instigated claims to recover property confiscated from his grandfather in 1147 and was granted 10 knights' fees by Nigel de Mowbray which included the manor of Kirkby Moorside and land in Warwickshire shortly after 1154. Supervisor of the works of Bamburgh castle in 1166 and sheriff of Yorkshire from Easter 1170 to Michaelmas 1175. Benefactor to the abbeys of St Mary's York, Byland, Rievaulx and Meaux and the priory of Durham. A charter of confirmation to Rievaulx abbey c.1160-1183 for the health of his soul and the souls of Robert de Stuteville his grandfather, Robert his father, Erneburga his mother and Helewise his wife, and with the consent of his son William, presents the Stuteville family over four generations. ["Robertus de Stutevilla.sciatis me dedissee et confirmasse Deo et Ecclesiae S. Mariae Rievallis, pro salute animae meae, et Roberti de Stutevilla, avi mei, et Roberti, patris m mei, et Erneburge, matris meae, et Helewisae uxoris meae, in perpetuam elemosinam, concessu Willelmi filii mei, et aliorum filiorum meorum, totam terram de Houetona." J.C.Atkinson (ed.), 'Rievaulx Cartulary', p.80]. He married, before 1145, [22993] Helewise whose parentage is not known and they founded Keldholm priory, a Benedictine nunnery. As 'domina Helewis uxor Roberti de Stuteuilla' with Osmund 'filius ejus' she witnessed a charter of William de Vescy to the brethren of Farne Island in about 1183. Robert had an interest in Cowesby as shown by a charter of notification dated around 1164-74, by Roger archbishop of York of the settlement of the controversy between Hugh bishop of Durham and Robert de Stuteville relating to the chapel of Cowesby. The dispute continued, however, after his death under the aegis of his son Osmund. Robert died in 1183.
[Sources: Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants'. p.724 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8, p.5-15, 90, 95 ; Sanders, 'English Baronies: a study of their origin and descent 1086-1327', p.37]"4,5
; Per Rosie Bevans post 3 Sept 2002 on Soc Gen Med:
"The following pedigree of Stuteville of Long Lawford is my interpretation. Caveat emptor.
1. Robert II de Stuteville=Erneburga 2.Robert III de Stuteville d.1183=Hawise
2. John de Stuteville, lord of Long Lawford, Newbold and Cosford d. poss bef 1184=Agnes
3. John Stuteville d.s.p.poss 1184
3. Roger d.s.p.1209-1214
3. Burga d.aft 1184 = William Pantulf
4. William Pantulf
5. Isolda (widow in 1217)=Walter de Tateshall
5.Eustachia
4. Roger Pantulf succeeded Roger de Stuteville
5.William Pantulf d.s.p.
5. Burgia
5.Emma
4. Philip
3. Joan = Meldred fitz Dolfin
4. Robert fitz Meldred d.1253
5. Geofrey de Neville
= Gilbert le Halsart d.1196
4.Gilbert Halsart/Hansard
5.Gilbert Hansard.14
; In 2002, Rosie Bevan posted two particular messages on the Soc.Genealogy.Medieval list that have helped me enormously in clarifying the frst five generations of the brance of the d'Estouteville/de Stuteville family that settled in England from Normandy. I have here merged her two messages into one, to simplify understanding the lineage she presents. The originals are available in the Google Groups archives (see footnote and sources).
Per combined Soc Gen Med posts by Rosie Bevan:
"This is a continuation of a thread started by John Ravilious on 2 July 2002 investigating the Stuteville ancestry of Margery de Stuteville.
"1. ROBERT I de Stuteville of Etoutteville, Seine-Maritime, arr. Yvetot, cant. Yerville and Cottingham, Yorks. He was amongst those granted the lands forfeited by Hugh fitz Baldric in Yorkshire and Lincolnshire soon after 1087 but lost them owing to his support of Robert Curthose, and was captured at the battle of Tinchebrai in 1106 after which he was condemned to be imprisoned for life. The lands were subsequently granted to Nigel d'Aubigny from whom they descended to Roger de Mowbray, but partially recovered by Robert I's grandson, Robert III de Stuteville. He was a benefactor of Durham and an entry in the Liber Vitae makes mention of himself, his wife Beatrice (whose parentage is unknown) and sons Robert, Gradulf and William. In a claim made by his great grandson William, he was described as Robert Grandboeuf. He was also father of Emma, second wife of Robert fitz Hugh de Grandmesnil whose six children are named in the Durham Liber Vitae. Benefactor of St Mary's abbey, York, Durham priory and the church at Lincoln.
Issue:
-- Robert II. See below.
-- Gradulf
-- William
-- Emma. Married to Robert Grandmesnil.
-- Gradulf
-- William
-- Emma. Married to Robert Grandmesnil.
"[Sources: Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants'. p.723 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8, p.1-2 ; Sanders, 'English Baronies: a study of their origin and descent 1086-1327', p.37]
"2. ROBERT II de Stuteville. Not believed to have held lands in England. A supporter of Robert Curthose with his father, he was captured at St.Pierre-sur-Dive shortly before the battle of Tinchebrai. He was married to Erneburga whose parentage is unknown.
Issue:
-- Robert III of Cottingham. See below.
-- William
-- Roger (sheriff of Northumberland from Easter 1170-Easter 1185, and castellan of Wark on Tweed)
-- John of Long Lawford, Warwickshire
-- Osmund of Weston Colville and Burton Agnes, Yorks. d. bef 1172. Succeeded by son Roger.
-- NN (soror Robert de Stuteville) wife of Robert de Daville
-- William
-- Roger (sheriff of Northumberland from Easter 1170-Easter 1185, and castellan of Wark on Tweed)
-- John of Long Lawford, Warwickshire
-- Osmund of Weston Colville and Burton Agnes, Yorks. d. bef 1172. Succeeded by son Roger.
-- NN (soror Robert de Stuteville) wife of Robert de Daville
"[Sources : Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants' p.723 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8, p.2-5]
"3. ROBERT III de Stuteville of Cottingham, Kettleby Thorpe, Yorks. and Bigby, Lincs. In 1138 he fought at the Battle of the Standard. Instigated claims to recover property confiscated from his grandfather in 1147 and was granted 10 knights' fees by Nigel de Mowbray which included the manor of Kirkby Moorside and land in Warwickshire shortly after 1154. Supervisor of the works of Bamburgh castle in 1166 and sheriff of Yorkshire from Easter 1170 to Michaelmas 1175. Benefactor to the abbeys of St Mary's York, Byland, Rievaulx and Meaux and the priory of Durham. A charter of confirmation to Rievaulx abbey c.1160-1183 for the health of his soul and the souls of Robert de Stuteville his grandfather, Robert his father, Erneburga his mother and Helewise his wife, and with the consent of his son William, presents the Stuteville family over four generations. ["Robertus de Stutevilla.sciatis me dedissee et confirmasse Deo et Ecclesiae S. Mariae Rievallis, pro salute animae meae, et Roberti de Stutevilla, avi mei, et Roberti, patris m mei, et Erneburge, matris meae, et Helewisae uxoris meae. in perpetuam elemosinam, concessu Willelmi filii mei, et aliorum filiorum meorum, totam terram de Houetona." J.C.Atkinson (ed.), 'Rievaulx Cartulary', p.80]. He married, before 1145, Helewise whose parentage is not known and they founded Keldholm priory, a Benedictine nunnery. As 'domina Helewis uxor Roberti de Stuteuilla' with Osmund 'filius ejus' she witnessed a charter of William de Vescy to the brethren of Farne Island in about 1183. Robert had an interest in Cowesby as shown by a charter of notification dated around 1164-74, by Roger archbishop of York of the settlement of the controversy between Hugh bishop of Durham and Robert de Stuteville relating to the chapel of Cowesby. The dispute continued, however, after his death under the aegis of his son Osmund. Robert died in 1183.
Issue:
-- William son and heir, the king's justice. Married Berta possibly granddaughter (as she appears younger than the 4 daughters and outlived them) of Ranulf de Glanville. [The Durham Liber Vitae lists "Rannulfus de Glanvile et uxor ejus Berta, Matillis, Amabilis, Helewisa, Mabilia filae eorum, et Berct"]. On the death of her son Berta's property fell to Ranulf son of Robert of Middleham, Thomas de Arderne and Hugh de Auberville who each had a third of her lands in Bramham and Leyburn. All three were sons and representatives of the daughters of Ranulph de Glanville. Hugh d.1203, leaving son and heir Robert IV who died s.p.under age in 1205. William also had an illegitimate daughter.
-- Nicholas of Liddel, Cumberland. Succeeded his nephew, Robert IV in 1205. See below.
-- Osmund of Cowesby, Yorks. and Gressenhall, Norfolk. See below.
-- Eustace of Brinklow, Warwickshire d.1218. His son and heir was Robert who was brought up overseas.
-- Robert of Great Ayton and Hemlington, Yorks.
-- Burga. Married to William de Vescy and had Langton as her maritagium, living as a widow in 1185.
-- Helewise. Married (1) William II de Lancaster, lord of Kendal d.1184 by whom she had Helewise (2) Hugh de Moreville of Burgh, Cumberland d. 1202 by whom she had Ada and Joan (3) William son of Ranulf, lord of Greystoke d.1209 by whom she had Thomas. In 1209 Robert de Vipont owed 500 marks for and 5 palfreys for the custody of the land and heirs of William and the marriage of his widow. Helewise died after 1228.
-- Nicholas of Liddel, Cumberland. Succeeded his nephew, Robert IV in 1205. See below.
-- Osmund of Cowesby, Yorks. and Gressenhall, Norfolk. See below.
-- Eustace of Brinklow, Warwickshire d.1218. His son and heir was Robert who was brought up overseas.
-- Robert of Great Ayton and Hemlington, Yorks.
-- Burga. Married to William de Vescy and had Langton as her maritagium, living as a widow in 1185.
-- Helewise. Married (1) William II de Lancaster, lord of Kendal d.1184 by whom she had Helewise (2) Hugh de Moreville of Burgh, Cumberland d. 1202 by whom she had Ada and Joan (3) William son of Ranulf, lord of Greystoke d.1209 by whom she had Thomas. In 1209 Robert de Vipont owed 500 marks for and 5 palfreys for the custody of the land and heirs of William and the marriage of his widow. Helewise died after 1228.
"[Sources: Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants'. p.724 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8, p.5-15, 90, 95 ; Sanders, 'English Baronies: a study of their origin and descent 1086-1327', p.37]
"4. NICHOLAS de Stuteville of Liddel. In 1174 he was in possession of Liddel, Cumberland when the castle was captured by William the Lion. In 1205 he made a fine of 10,000 marks for having his inheritance of everything William, his brother, held, except Knaresborough castle and Boroughbridge which was kept in the king's hands until the fine was paid. It was never paid and those properties passed from the Stuteville family. Nicholas married as his second wife Gunnora, sister and coheir of Ralph d'Aubigny, widow of Gilbert de Gant (d.1191). Gunnora's father was Ralph d'Aubigny, the elder, younger brother of William d'Aubigny 'Brito' of Belvoir. In 1197 a fine was made recognising their right to 15 knights' fees in Auborn and Binbrook, Lincs.and North Dalton, Upper and Lower Naburn, Yorks.as Gunnor's inheritance. An unknown first wife was mother of his sons Robert and Nicholas. Their relationship is established in a charter of notification by four witnesses who stated they were present when Nicholas de Stuteville and his sons, Robert and Nicholas, bound themselves to give 100s rent to Kedholme priory. Nicholas is presumed to be one of the confederate barons who met at Stamford at Easter 1216, captured at Lincoln on 20 May 1217 and dead by 30 March 1218.
Issue:
-- Robert V. Married Sibyl, daughter of Philip Valoignes, who 1192-1205 gave him and Sibyl and the heirs of their bodies the vill of Torpenhow, Cumberland. In the lifetime of his father he received a knight's fee in Middleton which he was holding early in the thirteenth century. He was benefactor of Rosedale priory. He died v.p.before 27 Nov 1213 when Nicholas Stuteville was ordered to deliver Eustace, son and heir of Robert, to Saer, Earl of Winchester. Saer gave the custody of Eustace to his son Roger. Eustace was married to Nichola but died s.p. shortly before 18 Oct 1241 on crusade, and seisin of his lands was ordered to be given to Joan, wife of Hugh Wake.
*- Nicholas II. See below.
*- Nicholas II. See below.
[EYC ix p. 13-18,124 ; Stevenson. Liber Vitae, p.15]
"5. NICHOLAS II de Stuteville. Recorded in the Pipe Roll at Michaelmas 1209 as Nicholas son of Nicholas. After the death of his father he administered the inheritance of his nephew Eustace. Married Dervorguilla, da. of Roland of Galloway, who brought an interest in Whissendine, Rutland to the family in frank marriage. Nicholas died shortly before 19 October 1233 at the priory of St Andrew, York. On 19 November 1233 the sheriff of York was ordered to take his lands which had belonged to him, including the manor of Cottingham, and to assign to Hugh Wake and Joan his wife, Nicholas' elder daughter and heir her reasonable share and seisin, and similarly to William Mastac the
king's kinsman, to whom the king had given the marriage of Margaret, his other daughter and heir.
Issue
-- Joan. Eventually sole heir of her father, she was married to Hugh Wake before 29 May 1229 when Hugh was pardoned for having married her without the king' licence. On the death of her cousin Eustace de Stuteville in 1241, and having outlived her sister, she was sole heir to the Stuteville inheritance comprising Cottingham, Buttercrambe and Kirby Moorside (combined annual value of L660 p.a. in 1282) and the honours of Liddell Strength and Rosedale. Hugh Wake died on crusade in 1241 and on 2 Jan 1242 the king granted to Joan his widow the custody of all the lands to hold until the lawful age of the heirs, together with their marriage and licence to marry at pleasure, for a fine of 10,000 marks. Before Michaelmas 1244 she married Hugh Bigod, Chief Justiciar of England, by whom she was the mother of Roger Bigod who succeeded as earl of Norfolk in 1270. Joan died shortly before 6 April 1276, her heir being her son Sir Baldwin Wake. By Hugh Wake, Joan also had Nicholas, Hugh and possibly Isabel.
-- Margaret. Married to William Mastac. She died s.p. shortly before 13 November 1235.
-- Margaret. Married to William Mastac. She died s.p. shortly before 13 November 1235.
[EYC ix p. 18-23 ; Sanders, Baronies p. 129 ; William Brown, Yorkshire Inquisitions, v.1 p.237-253 ; CP XII/2 p.299]
"4. OSMUND de Stuteville of Cowesby, with holdings in Kepwith, East Ness and Newsham, Brantingham, Riplingham, Newbald, Stillingfleet, Yorks. and Gressenhall, Norfolk. Born bef 1145. Holding two thirds of a fee of Robert de Stuteville, in Yorkshire in 1166. As Cowesby was held by Hugh fitz Baldric at Domesday, the estate was very likely part of that recovered by Robert III de Stuteville, father of Osmund. In a list of benefactions to Rievaulx abbey, there is mention of a gift by Osmund, which William de Stuteville his brother confirmed as overlord, of facilities at Cowesby including a road which the monks made in the time of his father. ["Donationem.quas Osmundus de Stutevilla.fecit Deo.de via de Causeby infra villam et extra, quantum territorium ejusdem villae durat, et nominatim de illa via quam ipsi fecerunt in tempore patris ipsius Osmundi, ad orietalem partem ejusdem villae in ascencu montis, utendum libere sibi et fratribus suis et serventibus et carectis et summaries et animalibus et averiis suis, omni tempore, quantum terra de causeby durat, infra villam et extra, tam versus Leche quam ex alia parte ejusdem villae: Concessionem .quas Willelmus de Stutevilla .. Fecit Deo.de via de Kausebi quam frater suus Osmundus dedit illis." J.C.Atkinson (ed.), 'Rievaulx Cartulary', p.290]. Between 1189 and 1192 Osmund quitclaimed his rights in Cowesby chapel after a settlement with Hugh bishop of Durham. He married Isabel, heiress of the family descended from Wimar, tenant of Gressenhall and Elsing, Norfolk. He died on crusade in Joppa in August 1192. Isabel married secondly William de Huntingfield, following which there was a protracted suit over her dower with William de Stuteville, Osmund's elder brother. She died in 1209.
Issue:
-- John. In 1191 he was on crusade in the company of king Richard, whose god-daughter he married. John was disinherited by Osmund.
-- William, who succeeded his father. See below.
-- Osmund (possibly). Occurs in 1216 with interests in Norfolk, Suffolk and Essex
-- William, who succeeded his father. See below.
-- Osmund (possibly). Occurs in 1216 with interests in Norfolk, Suffolk and Essex
"[Sources: Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants'. p.723 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8 p.34-35, 143]
"5. WILLIAM de Stuteville of Cowesby, Yorks. and Gressenhall, Norfolk. As William, son of Osmund de Stuteville he confirmed to Fountains abbey the gift of half a carucate of land in Newsham in the parish of Kirby Wiske. In 1216 he occurs as a knight of the earl of Warenne. On 5 Nov 1219 the king gave to him in marriage Margery (also known as Margaret), daughter and heir of Hugh de Say, and widow of Hugh de Ferrers d.s.p. 1204 and Robert de Mortimer d 1219, obtaining in her right the honour of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, which he held until his death in 1259. On 8 May 1229 he was granted a yearly fair and a weekly market at his manor at Gressenhall. In 1232 as one of the barons of the Marches, he delivered up Osmund his son as hostage for his fidelity. In Jan 1256-7 he confirmed to Castle Acre priory all the gifts and confirmations of Osmund de Stuteville, his father, and Isabel his mother and of Wimer, Roger his son and all his ancestors. The writs for his inquisitions post mortem are dated 20 May 1259 when Sir Hugh de Mortimer, son of Margery, was found to be heir to property in Shropshire and Worcestershire which William held by courtesy of England.
Issue:
-- Robert described as Robert de Estoteuill', lord of Cowesby, son of William de Estoteuill' in 1270 released to Fountains abbey his right in land and rent in Newsham. He was possibly married to Joan, da. and heir of William Talbot of Gainesburgh, Lincs. He d.s.p shortly before 20 Aug 1275 when his heir was found to be his nephew Jordan Foliot.
-- Osmund. Named as son of William de Stuteville of Richard's Castle, was one of the barons of the March who delivered hostages in June 1233.
-- MARGERY. Married Sir Richard Foliot of Norton and Fenwick, Yorks. and Grimston and Wellow, Notts. Their son, Jordan, was found to be heir of Margery's brother Robert de Stuteville. PRO E42/236 Jordan son of Sir Richard Foliot to Sir William his brother: Grant of his land in Tilney and Islington (Ilsington), [in Tilney], late of Robert de Stotevill his uncle: [Norf.] [Before 4 Edw I]
-- Osmund. Named as son of William de Stuteville of Richard's Castle, was one of the barons of the March who delivered hostages in June 1233.
-- MARGERY. Married Sir Richard Foliot of Norton and Fenwick, Yorks. and Grimston and Wellow, Notts. Their son, Jordan, was found to be heir of Margery's brother Robert de Stuteville. PRO E42/236 Jordan son of Sir Richard Foliot to Sir William his brother: Grant of his land in Tilney and Islington (Ilsington), [in Tilney], late of Robert de Stotevill his uncle: [Norf.] [Before 4 Edw I]
"[Sources: Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8 p.35-37, 143 ; Sanders, 'English Baronies: a study of their origin and descent 1086-1327', p.75 ; CIPM v.1 no.439 ; CIPM v.2 no.133 ; CP V :539; Blomefield, County of Norfolk, v.8 p.201-203; v.8 p.512]
Cheers, Rosie."15,16
Family | Helewise (?) |
Children |
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Citations
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/d'Estouteville, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/d'Estouteville, p. 17.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert II d'Estouteville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197559&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S4766] Et al Rosie Bevan, ""Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville, wife of Sir Richard Foliot" (30 posts by 9 authors)," e-mail message from
(https://groups.google.com/forum/print/msg/soc.genealogy.medieval/TZJlpxTzthU/mgH3_rtA8SAJ?ctz=5490243_72_76_104100_72_446760) to Email chain on soc.genealogy.medieval mail list, 31 Aug 2002. Hereinafter cited as "Soc.Gen.Med: Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville." - [S4767] Et al Rosie Bevan, ""Stuteville of Cottingham"," e-mail message from
(https://groups.google.com/forum/print/msg/soc.genealogy.medieval/TZJlpxTzthU/mgH3_rtA8SAJ?ctz=5490243_72_76_104100_72_446760) to Email chain on soc.genealogy.medieval mail list, 31 Aug 2002. Hereinafter cited as "Soc.Gen.Med: Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville." - [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert III d'Estouteville, of Cottingham: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197557&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntps.htm#RobertIIIStutevilledied1183B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Erneburga 'filia Hugonis': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197560&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Helewise: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197558&tree=LEO
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 88-26, p. 87. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S4769] Peter Stewart, ""Stuteville, Morville: Possible Genealogics update"," e-mail message from
(https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/soc.genealogy.medieval/The$20de$20Stuteville$20Family/soc.genealogy.medieval/wri-0pnOrLs/6Exko351AAAJ) to Email chain on soc.genealogy.medieval mail list, 29 Jan 2018, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/soc.genealogy.medieval/The$20de$20Stuteville$20Family/soc.genealogy.medieval/wri-0pnOrLs/6Exko351AAAJ. Hereinafter cited as "Soc.Gen.Med: Stuteville, Morville:." - [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison d’ Estouteville, p. 25: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Estouteville.pdf
- [S4768] Et al Rosie Bevan, ""Stuteville of Long Lawford"," e-mail message from
(https://groups.google.com/forum/print/msg/soc.genealogy.medieval/TZJlpxTzthU/mgH3_rtA8SAJ?ctz=5490243_72_76_104100_72_446760) to Email chain on soc.genealogy.medieval mail list, 3 Sep 2002, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/soc.genealogy.medieval/TZJlpxTzthU/rGonCygSOR4J;context-place=topic/soc.genealogy.medieval/TZJlpxTzthU. Hereinafter cited as "Soc.Gen.Med: Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville." - [S4766] Et al Rosie Bevan, "Soc.Gen.Med: Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville," e-mail to Email chain on soc.genealogy.medieval mail list, 31 Aug 2002, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.genealogy.medieval/TZJlpxTzthU
- [S4767] Et al Rosie Bevan, "Soc.Gen.Med: Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville," e-mail to Email chain on soc.genealogy.medieval mail list, 31 Aug 2002, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.genealogy.medieval/TZJlpxTzthU
- [S1840] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #2 23 Nov 2004 "Re: Morville - Stuteville question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #2 23 Nov 2004."
- [S2092] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 30 Aug 2006: "Re: CP Addition: Elizabeth, wife of Roger de Lascelles, Lord Lascelles"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 30 Aug 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 30 Aug 2006."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hawise|Helwise de Stuteville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00470447&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntps.htm#HelwiseStutevilleMWilliamLancaster
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Nicholas I Stuteville, of Liddel: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197555&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntps.htm#NicholasStutevilledied1177B
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Osmond de Stuteville, of Cowesby: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00397933&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Burga de Stuteville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00591664&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Stuteville, of Cottingham: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00470449&tree=LEO
Robert II 'Fronteboeuf' (1) d'Estouteville seigneur d’Estouteville et de Valmont1,2
M, #47554, b. circa 1075, d. circa 1140
Father | Robert I "Grandbois" d'Estouteville seigneur d’Estouteville3,4,5,6,7 d. a 1080 |
Mother | Béatrix/Beatrice (?)4,7 |
Reference | GAV24 |
Last Edited | 10 Jun 2020 |
Robert II 'Fronteboeuf' (1) d'Estouteville seigneur d’Estouteville et de Valmont married Erneburga (?)8,3,7,9
Robert II 'Fronteboeuf' (1) d'Estouteville seigneur d’Estouteville et de Valmont was born circa 1075 at Estouteville, Normandy, France.7
Robert II 'Fronteboeuf' (1) d'Estouteville seigneur d’Estouteville et de Valmont died circa 1140; Racines et Histoire and Med Lands say d. aft Aug 1138; Genealogics says d. ca 1140.6,10,7
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) XIII 103.7 He was Crusader.2
; Per Rosie Bevans post 3 Sept 2002 on Soc Gen Med:
"The following pedigree of Stuteville of Long Lawford is my interpretation. Caveat emptor.
1. Robert II de Stuteville=Erneburga 2.Robert III de Stuteville d.1183=Hawise
2. John de Stuteville, lord of Long Lawford, Newbold and Cosford d. poss bef 1184=Agnes
3. John Stuteville d.s.p.poss 1184
3. Roger d.s.p.1209-1214
3. Burga d.aft 1184 = William Pantulf
4. William Pantulf
5. Isolda (widow in 1217)=Walter de Tateshall
5.Eustachia
4. Roger Pantulf succeeded Roger de Stuteville
5.William Pantulf d.s.p.
5. Burgia
5.Emma
4. Philip
3. Joan = Meldred fitz Dolfin
4. Robert fitz Meldred d.1253
5. Geofrey de Neville
= Gilbert le Halsart d.1196
4.Gilbert Halsart/Hansard
5.Gilbert Hansard.11
; NB: There are material differences between various sources regarding the children of Robert II d'Estouteville:
I. Genealogics shows his wife as Erneburga 'filia Hugonis' and assigns them seven children:
1. Robert III d'Estouteville, of Cottingham m. Helewise
2. William d'Estouteville
3. Roger de Stuteville, of Burton Agnes m. NN
4. Geoffrey d'Estouteville
5. Burga d'Estouteville m. William Pantulf
6. John de Stuteville, of Long Lawford m. NN
7. Osmund de Stuteville m. NN
II. Med Lands shows two wives: m1 Jeanne Talbot, m2 Erneburg (names in brackets "" indicate questionable assignments), with issue:
Med Lands shows by m1:
1. Nicolas I d'Estouteville m. Juliane
Med Lands shows by m2:
2. Robert III m. Helwise
3. [Richard d'Estouteville]
4. [Roger d'Estouteville]
5. [William d'Estouteville m. Emma]
6. [Osmond d'Estouteville]
7. [Patrick d'Estouteville]
8. John d'Estouteville m. Agnes
9. [Eustache d'Estouteville]
10. NN d'Estouteville m. Robert de Daville
11. [Burga d'Estouteville m. William Pantulf]
III. Racines et Histoire (d'Estouteville p. 2 - "Origines") shows two wives: m1 Jeanne Talbot, m2 Erneburgre, with issue:
Racines et Histoire shows by m1:
1. Nicolas I d'Estouteville m. Juliane/Juliette de Thourotte
Racines et Histoire shows by m2:
2. Robert III m. Helwise
3. Richard d'Estouteville
4. Roger d'Estouteville
5. William d'Estouteville m. Emma
6. Osmond d'Estouteville
7. Patrick d'Estouteville
8. Jen/John d'Estouteville m. Agnes
9. Eustache d'Estouteville
10. NN d'Estouteville m. Robert de Daville
11. Burga de Stuteville m. William Pantulf
IV. Racines et Histoire (d'Estouteville p. 25 - "Branches anglaises de Cottenham (ou Cottingham) et Gressenhall") shows two wives: m1 Blanche de Rieux, m2 Adélaïde (Aélis) de Beaumont, with issue:
1. Robert III d'Estouteville/de Stuteville m. Erneberge FitzBaldrick
2. Jean/John d'Estouteville
3. Nicolas d'Estouteville
4. Emma/Emme d'Estouteville/de Stuteville m1 Erard d'Harcourt, m2 Hugh de Grantmesnil
V. Wikipédia (Fr.) shows shows two wives: m1 Jeanne Talbot, m2 Erneburgre, with issue:
Wikipédia (Fr.) shows by m1:
1. Nicolas I d'Estouteville m. Juliane/Julienne (de Thorotte ?)
Wikipédia (Fr.) shows by m2:
2. Robert III d'Estouteville
VI. Rosie Bevans (on Soc.Gen.Med) shows one wife Erneburga. Issue:
1. Robert III of Cottingham m. Helewise
2. William m. Emma, and held lands in West Yorkshire.
3. Roger Sheriff of Northumberland
4. John de Stuteville of Long Lawford, Warwickshire m. Agnes
5. Osmund of Weston Colville and Burton Agnes, Yorks
6. NN m. Robert de Daville
One major difference between these sources is the Nicolas who m. Juliane/Juliette de Thourotte, appearing in Med Lands, Racines et Histoire and Wikipédia (Fr.), but excluded on Genealogics and by Rosie Bevans. Genealogics says elsewhere that the parentage of this Nicolas I is uncertain, but shows him as the father of a Robert III/IV (?) who m. Leonia of Salisbury, Dame de Rames. Rosie Bevans also excludes a Nicholas as the son of Robert II.
A second major difference is Burga included on Genealogics, Med Lands and Racines et Histoire, but excluded by Rosie Bevans (the Wikipédia (Fr.) does not try to be comprehensive). In a dfferent email (3 Sept 2002), but as part of the same Soc.Gen.Med discussion, Rosie Bevans shows that this Burga is likely the dau. of Robert II's son, John de Stuteville.
The second presentation of Racines et Histoire (d'Estouteville, p. 25) is quite problematic. There is no explanation of whether the relationship between the two Robert II's.
Conclusion: After studying these different lists and the sources they cite (Racines et Histoire offers none), I have settled on the following for Robert II for the present, as I continue to look for further research:
one wife Erneburga. Issue:
1. Robert III of Cottingham m. Helewise
2. William m. Emma, and held lands in West Yorkshire.
3. Roger Sheriff of Northumberland
4. John of Long Lawford, Warwickshire m. Agnes (parents of Burga who m. William Pantulf)
5. Osmund of Weston Colville and Burton Agnes, Yorks
6. NN m. Robert de Daville
I have also created a second Robert II (Robert II d'Estouteville (2) with the data (wives and children) shown on Racines et Histoire, p. 25. Hopefully, this is temporary until I have uncovered more details to allow me to sort this out.
--- GA Vaut.7,10,6,3,12,8,13,14,15,1 GAV-24 EDV-27 GKJ-27.
; Per Genealogics:
“Robert II was the son of Robert I d'Estouteville and his wife Béatrix. Like his father he was a supporter of Robert Curthose, duke of Normandy. He was captured at St. Pierre-sur-Dive shortly before the battle of Tinchebrai in 1106.
“Robert is not believed to have held lands in England. He was married to Ernaburga 'filia Hugonis', daughter of Hugh fitz Baldric. They had several sons of whom Robert III is known to have had progeny. He died after 1138 in Estouteville-sur-Mer, Seine-Inferieure, in Normandy.”.7
; Per Med Lands:
"ROBERT [II] d’Estouteville, son of ROBERT [I] d’Estouteville & his wife Béatrice --- (-after Aug 1138). The Liber Vitæ of Durham names "Robertus de Stuteville, Beatrix uxor eius, Robertus, Graulfus, Willelmus filii eorum…"[262]. Domesday Descendants suggests that these entries refer to Robert [I] de Stuteville and his family[263]. Orderic Vitalis names "…Rodbertus juvenis de Stotevilla…" among those who defended the castle of Saint-Pierre-sur-Dive and were captured, dated to [1106][264]. Simeon of Durham suggests that these entries refer to Robert [I] de Stuteville and his family[263]. Orderic Vitalis names "…Rodbertus juvenis de Stotevilla…" among those who defended the castle of Saint-Pierre-sur-Dive and were captured, dated to [1106][264]. Simeon of Durham names "…Robertus de Stuthavilla…" among the leaders of the English contingent at the battle of the Standard (dated to Aug 1138)[265].
"[m firstly (before 1106) JEANNE Talbot, daughter of [HUGUES Talbot Baron de Cleuville & his wife Marie de Meulan]. Morandière states that "Robert II le jeune d’Estouteville" married "avant le désastre de Tinchebray…Jehanne Talebot heritière de l’aisné des surnommés Talebot, barons de Cleuville", naming her grandfather "Richard Talebot…compagnon de son voisin Grondebœuf à Hastings" but not her father, adding that she died early leaving a son "Nicholas d’Estouteville"[266]. La Roque names Jeanne as older daughter of the parents named above and records her marriage[267]. The primary sources which confirms this information have not been identified. Until such sources emerge, it is suggested that these supposed persons should be treated with caution.]
"m [secondly] ERNEBURG, daughter of ---. Her marriage is confirmed by the undated charter under which her son "Robertus de Stutevilla" confirmed donations to Rievaulx of "terram de Houetona", for the souls of "Roberti de Stutevilla avi mei et Roberti patris mei et Erneburgæ matris meæ et Helewisæ uxoris meæ"[268].
"Robert [II] & his [first wife] had [one child]:
1. [NICOLAS [I] d’Estouteville (-22 Apr 1177).
"Robert [II] & his [second] wife had [nine] children:
2. ROBERT [III] d’Estouteville (-1183).
3. [RICHARD d’Estouteville .
4. [ROGER d’Estouteville .
5. [WILLIAM d’Estouteville (-after [1172]).
6. [OSMOND d’Estouteville .
7. [PATRICK d’Estouteville .
8. JOHN d’Estouteville (-after 1166).
a) JOHN de Stuteville (-after [1160]).
b) ROGER de Stuteville (-after [1183/84]).
i) ANSELM de Stuteville .
9. [EUSTACHE d’Estouteville .
10. --- d’Estouteville .
11. [BURGA [de Stuteville] (-after 1166)."
Med Lands cites:
* Note: When Med Lands presents information in brackets "" (such as the names of some of the children listed for Robert II), it indicates that the author feels that the information is in some sense questionable or unproven.10
; NB: Med Lands lists a tentative 1st marriage for Robert II to Jeanne Talbot, dau. possibly of "HUGUES Talbot Baron de Cleuville & his wife Marie de Meulan," but the indicates that "these supposed persons should be treated with caution."10
; In 2002, Rosie Bevan posted two particular messages on the Soc.Genealogy.Medieval list that have helped me enormously in clarifying the frst five generations of the brance of the d'Estouteville/de Stuteville family that settled in England from Normandy. I have here merged her two messages into one, to simplify understanding the lineage she presents. The originals are available in the Google Groups archives (see footnote and sources).
Per combined Soc Gen Med posts by Rosie Bevan:
"This is a continuation of a thread started by John Ravilious on 2 July 2002 investigating the Stuteville ancestry of Margery de Stuteville.
"1. ROBERT I de Stuteville of Etoutteville, Seine-Maritime, arr. Yvetot, cant. Yerville and Cottingham, Yorks. He was amongst those granted the lands forfeited by Hugh fitz Baldric in Yorkshire and Lincolnshire soon after 1087 but lost them owing to his support of Robert Curthose, and was captured at the battle of Tinchebrai in 1106 after which he was condemned to be imprisoned for life. The lands were subsequently granted to Nigel d'Aubigny from whom they descended to Roger de Mowbray, but partially recovered by Robert I's grandson, Robert III de Stuteville. He was a benefactor of Durham and an entry in the Liber Vitae makes mention of himself, his wife Beatrice (whose parentage is unknown) and sons Robert, Gradulf and William. In a claim made by his great grandson William, he was described as Robert Grandboeuf. He was also father of Emma, second wife of Robert fitz Hugh de Grandmesnil whose six children are named in the Durham Liber Vitae. Benefactor of St Mary's abbey, York, Durham priory and the church at Lincoln.
Issue:
"[Sources: Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants'. p.723 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8, p.1-2 ; Sanders, 'English Baronies: a study of their origin and descent 1086-1327', p.37]
"2. ROBERT II de Stuteville. Not believed to have held lands in England. A supporter of Robert Curthose with his father, he was captured at St.Pierre-sur-Dive shortly before the battle of Tinchebrai. He was married to Erneburga whose parentage is unknown.
Issue:
"[Sources : Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants' p.723 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8, p.2-5]
"3. ROBERT III de Stuteville of Cottingham, Kettleby Thorpe, Yorks. and Bigby, Lincs. In 1138 he fought at the Battle of the Standard. Instigated claims to recover property confiscated from his grandfather in 1147 and was granted 10 knights' fees by Nigel de Mowbray which included the manor of Kirkby Moorside and land in Warwickshire shortly after 1154. Supervisor of the works of Bamburgh castle in 1166 and sheriff of Yorkshire from Easter 1170 to Michaelmas 1175. Benefactor to the abbeys of St Mary's York, Byland, Rievaulx and Meaux and the priory of Durham. A charter of confirmation to Rievaulx abbey c.1160-1183 for the health of his soul and the souls of Robert de Stuteville his grandfather, Robert his father, Erneburga his mother and Helewise his wife, and with the consent of his son William, presents the Stuteville family over four generations. ["Robertus de Stutevilla.sciatis me dedissee et confirmasse Deo et Ecclesiae S. Mariae Rievallis, pro salute animae meae, et Roberti de Stutevilla, avi mei, et Roberti, patris m mei, et Erneburge, matris meae, et Helewisae uxoris meae. in perpetuam elemosinam, concessu Willelmi filii mei, et aliorum filiorum meorum, totam terram de Houetona." J.C.Atkinson (ed.), 'Rievaulx Cartulary', p.80]. He married, before 1145, Helewise whose parentage is not known and they founded Keldholm priory, a Benedictine nunnery. As 'domina Helewis uxor Roberti de Stuteuilla' with Osmund 'filius ejus' she witnessed a charter of William de Vescy to the brethren of Farne Island in about 1183. Robert had an interest in Cowesby as shown by a charter of notification dated around 1164-74, by Roger archbishop of York of the settlement of the controversy between Hugh bishop of Durham and Robert de Stuteville relating to the chapel of Cowesby. The dispute continued, however, after his death under the aegis of his son Osmund. Robert died in 1183.
Issue:
"[Sources: Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants'. p.724 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8, p.5-15, 90, 95 ; Sanders, 'English Baronies: a study of their origin and descent 1086-1327', p.37]
"4. NICHOLAS de Stuteville of Liddel. In 1174 he was in possession of Liddel, Cumberland when the castle was captured by William the Lion. In 1205 he made a fine of 10,000 marks for having his inheritance of everything William, his brother, held, except Knaresborough castle and Boroughbridge which was kept in the king's hands until the fine was paid. It was never paid and those properties passed from the Stuteville family. Nicholas married as his second wife Gunnora, sister and coheir of Ralph d'Aubigny, widow of Gilbert de Gant (d.1191). Gunnora's father was Ralph d'Aubigny, the elder, younger brother of William d'Aubigny 'Brito' of Belvoir. In 1197 a fine was made recognising their right to 15 knights' fees in Auborn and Binbrook, Lincs.and North Dalton, Upper and Lower Naburn, Yorks.as Gunnor's inheritance. An unknown first wife was mother of his sons Robert and Nicholas. Their relationship is established in a charter of notification by four witnesses who stated they were present when Nicholas de Stuteville and his sons, Robert and Nicholas, bound themselves to give 100s rent to Kedholme priory. Nicholas is presumed to be one of the confederate barons who met at Stamford at Easter 1216, captured at Lincoln on 20 May 1217 and dead by 30 March 1218.
Issue:
[EYC ix p. 13-18,124 ; Stevenson. Liber Vitae, p.15]
"5. NICHOLAS II de Stuteville. Recorded in the Pipe Roll at Michaelmas 1209 as Nicholas son of Nicholas. After the death of his father he administered the inheritance of his nephew Eustace. Married Dervorguilla, da. of Roland of Galloway, who brought an interest in Whissendine, Rutland to the family in frank marriage. Nicholas died shortly before 19 October 1233 at the priory of St Andrew, York. On 19 November 1233 the sheriff of York was ordered to take his lands which had belonged to him, including the manor of Cottingham, and to assign to Hugh Wake and Joan his wife, Nicholas' elder daughter and heir her reasonable share and seisin, and similarly to William Mastac the
king's kinsman, to whom the king had given the marriage of Margaret, his other daughter and heir.
Issue
[EYC ix p. 18-23 ; Sanders, Baronies p. 129 ; William Brown, Yorkshire Inquisitions, v.1 p.237-253 ; CP XII/2 p.299]
"4. OSMUND de Stuteville of Cowesby, with holdings in Kepwith, East Ness and Newsham, Brantingham, Riplingham, Newbald, Stillingfleet, Yorks. and Gressenhall, Norfolk. Born bef 1145. Holding two thirds of a fee of Robert de Stuteville, in Yorkshire in 1166. As Cowesby was held by Hugh fitz Baldric at Domesday, the estate was very likely part of that recovered by Robert III de Stuteville, father of Osmund. In a list of benefactions to Rievaulx abbey, there is mention of a gift by Osmund, which William de Stuteville his brother confirmed as overlord, of facilities at Cowesby including a road which the monks made in the time of his father. ["Donationem.quas Osmundus de Stutevilla.fecit Deo.de via de Causeby infra villam et extra, quantum territorium ejusdem villae durat, et nominatim de illa via quam ipsi fecerunt in tempore patris ipsius Osmundi, ad orietalem partem ejusdem villae in ascencu montis, utendum libere sibi et fratribus suis et serventibus et carectis et summaries et animalibus et averiis suis, omni tempore, quantum terra de causeby durat, infra villam et extra, tam versus Leche quam ex alia parte ejusdem villae: Concessionem .quas Willelmus de Stutevilla .. Fecit Deo.de via de Kausebi quam frater suus Osmundus dedit illis." J.C.Atkinson (ed.), 'Rievaulx Cartulary', p.290]. Between 1189 and 1192 Osmund quitclaimed his rights in Cowesby chapel after a settlement with Hugh bishop of Durham. He married Isabel, heiress of the family descended from Wimar, tenant of Gressenhall and Elsing, Norfolk. He died on crusade in Joppa in August 1192. Isabel married secondly William de Huntingfield, following which there was a protracted suit over her dower with William de Stuteville, Osmund's elder brother. She died in 1209.
Issue:
"[Sources: Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants'. p.723 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8 p.34-35, 143]
"5. WILLIAM de Stuteville of Cowesby, Yorks. and Gressenhall, Norfolk. As William, son of Osmund de Stuteville he confirmed to Fountains abbey the gift of half a carucate of land in Newsham in the parish of Kirby Wiske. In 1216 he occurs as a knight of the earl of Warenne. On 5 Nov 1219 the king gave to him in marriage Margery (also known as Margaret), daughter and heir of Hugh de Say, and widow of Hugh de Ferrers d.s.p. 1204 and Robert de Mortimer d 1219, obtaining in her right the honour of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, which he held until his death in 1259. On 8 May 1229 he was granted a yearly fair and a weekly market at his manor at Gressenhall. In 1232 as one of the barons of the Marches, he delivered up Osmund his son as hostage for his fidelity. In Jan 1256-7 he confirmed to Castle Acre priory all the gifts and confirmations of Osmund de Stuteville, his father, and Isabel his mother and of Wimer, Roger his son and all his ancestors. The writs for his inquisitions post mortem are dated 20 May 1259 when Sir Hugh de Mortimer, son of Margery, was found to be heir to property in Shropshire and Worcestershire which William held by courtesy of England.
Issue:
"[Sources: Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8 p.35-37, 143 ; Sanders, 'English Baronies: a study of their origin and descent 1086-1327', p.75 ; CIPM v.1 no.439 ; CIPM v.2 no.133 ; CP V :539; Blomefield, County of Norfolk, v.8 p.201-203; v.8 p.512]
Cheers, Rosie."16,17
Robert II 'Fronteboeuf' (1) d'Estouteville seigneur d’Estouteville et de Valmont was born circa 1075 at Estouteville, Normandy, France.7
Robert II 'Fronteboeuf' (1) d'Estouteville seigneur d’Estouteville et de Valmont died circa 1140; Racines et Histoire and Med Lands say d. aft Aug 1138; Genealogics says d. ca 1140.6,10,7
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) XIII 103.7 He was Crusader.2
; Per Rosie Bevans post 3 Sept 2002 on Soc Gen Med:
"The following pedigree of Stuteville of Long Lawford is my interpretation. Caveat emptor.
1. Robert II de Stuteville=Erneburga 2.Robert III de Stuteville d.1183=Hawise
2. John de Stuteville, lord of Long Lawford, Newbold and Cosford d. poss bef 1184=Agnes
3. John Stuteville d.s.p.poss 1184
3. Roger d.s.p.1209-1214
3. Burga d.aft 1184 = William Pantulf
4. William Pantulf
5. Isolda (widow in 1217)=Walter de Tateshall
5.Eustachia
4. Roger Pantulf succeeded Roger de Stuteville
5.William Pantulf d.s.p.
5. Burgia
5.Emma
4. Philip
3. Joan = Meldred fitz Dolfin
4. Robert fitz Meldred d.1253
5. Geofrey de Neville
= Gilbert le Halsart d.1196
4.Gilbert Halsart/Hansard
5.Gilbert Hansard.11
; NB: There are material differences between various sources regarding the children of Robert II d'Estouteville:
I. Genealogics shows his wife as Erneburga 'filia Hugonis' and assigns them seven children:
1. Robert III d'Estouteville, of Cottingham m. Helewise
2. William d'Estouteville
3. Roger de Stuteville, of Burton Agnes m. NN
4. Geoffrey d'Estouteville
5. Burga d'Estouteville m. William Pantulf
6. John de Stuteville, of Long Lawford m. NN
7. Osmund de Stuteville m. NN
II. Med Lands shows two wives: m1 Jeanne Talbot, m2 Erneburg (names in brackets "" indicate questionable assignments), with issue:
Med Lands shows by m1:
1. Nicolas I d'Estouteville m. Juliane
Med Lands shows by m2:
2. Robert III m. Helwise
3. [Richard d'Estouteville]
4. [Roger d'Estouteville]
5. [William d'Estouteville m. Emma]
6. [Osmond d'Estouteville]
7. [Patrick d'Estouteville]
8. John d'Estouteville m. Agnes
9. [Eustache d'Estouteville]
10. NN d'Estouteville m. Robert de Daville
11. [Burga d'Estouteville m. William Pantulf]
III. Racines et Histoire (d'Estouteville p. 2 - "Origines") shows two wives: m1 Jeanne Talbot, m2 Erneburgre, with issue:
Racines et Histoire shows by m1:
1. Nicolas I d'Estouteville m. Juliane/Juliette de Thourotte
Racines et Histoire shows by m2:
2. Robert III m. Helwise
3. Richard d'Estouteville
4. Roger d'Estouteville
5. William d'Estouteville m. Emma
6. Osmond d'Estouteville
7. Patrick d'Estouteville
8. Jen/John d'Estouteville m. Agnes
9. Eustache d'Estouteville
10. NN d'Estouteville m. Robert de Daville
11. Burga de Stuteville m. William Pantulf
IV. Racines et Histoire (d'Estouteville p. 25 - "Branches anglaises de Cottenham (ou Cottingham) et Gressenhall") shows two wives: m1 Blanche de Rieux, m2 Adélaïde (Aélis) de Beaumont, with issue:
1. Robert III d'Estouteville/de Stuteville m. Erneberge FitzBaldrick
2. Jean/John d'Estouteville
3. Nicolas d'Estouteville
4. Emma/Emme d'Estouteville/de Stuteville m1 Erard d'Harcourt, m2 Hugh de Grantmesnil
V. Wikipédia (Fr.) shows shows two wives: m1 Jeanne Talbot, m2 Erneburgre, with issue:
Wikipédia (Fr.) shows by m1:
1. Nicolas I d'Estouteville m. Juliane/Julienne (de Thorotte ?)
Wikipédia (Fr.) shows by m2:
2. Robert III d'Estouteville
VI. Rosie Bevans (on Soc.Gen.Med) shows one wife Erneburga. Issue:
1. Robert III of Cottingham m. Helewise
2. William m. Emma, and held lands in West Yorkshire.
3. Roger Sheriff of Northumberland
4. John de Stuteville of Long Lawford, Warwickshire m. Agnes
5. Osmund of Weston Colville and Burton Agnes, Yorks
6. NN m. Robert de Daville
One major difference between these sources is the Nicolas who m. Juliane/Juliette de Thourotte, appearing in Med Lands, Racines et Histoire and Wikipédia (Fr.), but excluded on Genealogics and by Rosie Bevans. Genealogics says elsewhere that the parentage of this Nicolas I is uncertain, but shows him as the father of a Robert III/IV (?) who m. Leonia of Salisbury, Dame de Rames. Rosie Bevans also excludes a Nicholas as the son of Robert II.
A second major difference is Burga included on Genealogics, Med Lands and Racines et Histoire, but excluded by Rosie Bevans (the Wikipédia (Fr.) does not try to be comprehensive). In a dfferent email (3 Sept 2002), but as part of the same Soc.Gen.Med discussion, Rosie Bevans shows that this Burga is likely the dau. of Robert II's son, John de Stuteville.
The second presentation of Racines et Histoire (d'Estouteville, p. 25) is quite problematic. There is no explanation of whether the relationship between the two Robert II's.
Conclusion: After studying these different lists and the sources they cite (Racines et Histoire offers none), I have settled on the following for Robert II for the present, as I continue to look for further research:
one wife Erneburga. Issue:
1. Robert III of Cottingham m. Helewise
2. William m. Emma, and held lands in West Yorkshire.
3. Roger Sheriff of Northumberland
4. John of Long Lawford, Warwickshire m. Agnes (parents of Burga who m. William Pantulf)
5. Osmund of Weston Colville and Burton Agnes, Yorks
6. NN m. Robert de Daville
I have also created a second Robert II (Robert II d'Estouteville (2) with the data (wives and children) shown on Racines et Histoire, p. 25. Hopefully, this is temporary until I have uncovered more details to allow me to sort this out.
--- GA Vaut.7,10,6,3,12,8,13,14,15,1 GAV-24 EDV-27 GKJ-27.
; Per Genealogics:
“Robert II was the son of Robert I d'Estouteville and his wife Béatrix. Like his father he was a supporter of Robert Curthose, duke of Normandy. He was captured at St. Pierre-sur-Dive shortly before the battle of Tinchebrai in 1106.
“Robert is not believed to have held lands in England. He was married to Ernaburga 'filia Hugonis', daughter of Hugh fitz Baldric. They had several sons of whom Robert III is known to have had progeny. He died after 1138 in Estouteville-sur-Mer, Seine-Inferieure, in Normandy.”.7
; Per Med Lands:
"ROBERT [II] d’Estouteville, son of ROBERT [I] d’Estouteville & his wife Béatrice --- (-after Aug 1138). The Liber Vitæ of Durham names "Robertus de Stuteville, Beatrix uxor eius, Robertus, Graulfus, Willelmus filii eorum…"[262]. Domesday Descendants suggests that these entries refer to Robert [I] de Stuteville and his family[263]. Orderic Vitalis names "…Rodbertus juvenis de Stotevilla…" among those who defended the castle of Saint-Pierre-sur-Dive and were captured, dated to [1106][264]. Simeon of Durham suggests that these entries refer to Robert [I] de Stuteville and his family[263]. Orderic Vitalis names "…Rodbertus juvenis de Stotevilla…" among those who defended the castle of Saint-Pierre-sur-Dive and were captured, dated to [1106][264]. Simeon of Durham names "…Robertus de Stuthavilla…" among the leaders of the English contingent at the battle of the Standard (dated to Aug 1138)[265].
"[m firstly (before 1106) JEANNE Talbot, daughter of [HUGUES Talbot Baron de Cleuville & his wife Marie de Meulan]. Morandière states that "Robert II le jeune d’Estouteville" married "avant le désastre de Tinchebray…Jehanne Talebot heritière de l’aisné des surnommés Talebot, barons de Cleuville", naming her grandfather "Richard Talebot…compagnon de son voisin Grondebœuf à Hastings" but not her father, adding that she died early leaving a son "Nicholas d’Estouteville"[266]. La Roque names Jeanne as older daughter of the parents named above and records her marriage[267]. The primary sources which confirms this information have not been identified. Until such sources emerge, it is suggested that these supposed persons should be treated with caution.]
"m [secondly] ERNEBURG, daughter of ---. Her marriage is confirmed by the undated charter under which her son "Robertus de Stutevilla" confirmed donations to Rievaulx of "terram de Houetona", for the souls of "Roberti de Stutevilla avi mei et Roberti patris mei et Erneburgæ matris meæ et Helewisæ uxoris meæ"[268].
"Robert [II] & his [first wife] had [one child]:
1. [NICOLAS [I] d’Estouteville (-22 Apr 1177).
"Robert [II] & his [second] wife had [nine] children:
2. ROBERT [III] d’Estouteville (-1183).
3. [RICHARD d’Estouteville .
4. [ROGER d’Estouteville .
5. [WILLIAM d’Estouteville (-after [1172]).
6. [OSMOND d’Estouteville .
7. [PATRICK d’Estouteville .
8. JOHN d’Estouteville (-after 1166).
a) JOHN de Stuteville (-after [1160]).
b) ROGER de Stuteville (-after [1183/84]).
i) ANSELM de Stuteville .
9. [EUSTACHE d’Estouteville .
10. --- d’Estouteville .
11. [BURGA [de Stuteville] (-after 1166)."
Med Lands cites:
[262] Durham Liber Vitæ, folio 44, p. 60.
[263] Domesday Descendants, p. 723.
[264] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. IV, Liber XI, XIX, p. 223.
[265] Symeonis Dunelmensis, Vol. II, Historia Regum, Continuation, p. 294.
[266] Morandière (1903), p. 31, citing "Archives de Valmont" (no precise citation reference), and p. 35.
[267] La Roque (1662), Vol. I, p. 197.
[268] Rievaulx, XLIII, p. 21.
[263] Domesday Descendants, p. 723.
[264] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. IV, Liber XI, XIX, p. 223.
[265] Symeonis Dunelmensis, Vol. II, Historia Regum, Continuation, p. 294.
[266] Morandière (1903), p. 31, citing "Archives de Valmont" (no precise citation reference), and p. 35.
[267] La Roque (1662), Vol. I, p. 197.
[268] Rievaulx, XLIII, p. 21.
* Note: When Med Lands presents information in brackets "" (such as the names of some of the children listed for Robert II), it indicates that the author feels that the information is in some sense questionable or unproven.10
; NB: Med Lands lists a tentative 1st marriage for Robert II to Jeanne Talbot, dau. possibly of "HUGUES Talbot Baron de Cleuville & his wife Marie de Meulan," but the indicates that "these supposed persons should be treated with caution."10
; In 2002, Rosie Bevan posted two particular messages on the Soc.Genealogy.Medieval list that have helped me enormously in clarifying the frst five generations of the brance of the d'Estouteville/de Stuteville family that settled in England from Normandy. I have here merged her two messages into one, to simplify understanding the lineage she presents. The originals are available in the Google Groups archives (see footnote and sources).
Per combined Soc Gen Med posts by Rosie Bevan:
"This is a continuation of a thread started by John Ravilious on 2 July 2002 investigating the Stuteville ancestry of Margery de Stuteville.
"1. ROBERT I de Stuteville of Etoutteville, Seine-Maritime, arr. Yvetot, cant. Yerville and Cottingham, Yorks. He was amongst those granted the lands forfeited by Hugh fitz Baldric in Yorkshire and Lincolnshire soon after 1087 but lost them owing to his support of Robert Curthose, and was captured at the battle of Tinchebrai in 1106 after which he was condemned to be imprisoned for life. The lands were subsequently granted to Nigel d'Aubigny from whom they descended to Roger de Mowbray, but partially recovered by Robert I's grandson, Robert III de Stuteville. He was a benefactor of Durham and an entry in the Liber Vitae makes mention of himself, his wife Beatrice (whose parentage is unknown) and sons Robert, Gradulf and William. In a claim made by his great grandson William, he was described as Robert Grandboeuf. He was also father of Emma, second wife of Robert fitz Hugh de Grandmesnil whose six children are named in the Durham Liber Vitae. Benefactor of St Mary's abbey, York, Durham priory and the church at Lincoln.
Issue:
-- Robert II. See below.
-- Gradulf
-- William
-- Emma. Married to Robert Grandmesnil.
-- Gradulf
-- William
-- Emma. Married to Robert Grandmesnil.
"[Sources: Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants'. p.723 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8, p.1-2 ; Sanders, 'English Baronies: a study of their origin and descent 1086-1327', p.37]
"2. ROBERT II de Stuteville. Not believed to have held lands in England. A supporter of Robert Curthose with his father, he was captured at St.Pierre-sur-Dive shortly before the battle of Tinchebrai. He was married to Erneburga whose parentage is unknown.
Issue:
-- Robert III of Cottingham. See below.
-- William
-- Roger (sheriff of Northumberland from Easter 1170-Easter 1185, and castellan of Wark on Tweed)
-- John of Long Lawford, Warwickshire
-- Osmund of Weston Colville and Burton Agnes, Yorks. d. bef 1172. Succeeded by son Roger.
-- NN (soror Robert de Stuteville) wife of Robert de Daville
-- William
-- Roger (sheriff of Northumberland from Easter 1170-Easter 1185, and castellan of Wark on Tweed)
-- John of Long Lawford, Warwickshire
-- Osmund of Weston Colville and Burton Agnes, Yorks. d. bef 1172. Succeeded by son Roger.
-- NN (soror Robert de Stuteville) wife of Robert de Daville
"[Sources : Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants' p.723 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8, p.2-5]
"3. ROBERT III de Stuteville of Cottingham, Kettleby Thorpe, Yorks. and Bigby, Lincs. In 1138 he fought at the Battle of the Standard. Instigated claims to recover property confiscated from his grandfather in 1147 and was granted 10 knights' fees by Nigel de Mowbray which included the manor of Kirkby Moorside and land in Warwickshire shortly after 1154. Supervisor of the works of Bamburgh castle in 1166 and sheriff of Yorkshire from Easter 1170 to Michaelmas 1175. Benefactor to the abbeys of St Mary's York, Byland, Rievaulx and Meaux and the priory of Durham. A charter of confirmation to Rievaulx abbey c.1160-1183 for the health of his soul and the souls of Robert de Stuteville his grandfather, Robert his father, Erneburga his mother and Helewise his wife, and with the consent of his son William, presents the Stuteville family over four generations. ["Robertus de Stutevilla.sciatis me dedissee et confirmasse Deo et Ecclesiae S. Mariae Rievallis, pro salute animae meae, et Roberti de Stutevilla, avi mei, et Roberti, patris m mei, et Erneburge, matris meae, et Helewisae uxoris meae. in perpetuam elemosinam, concessu Willelmi filii mei, et aliorum filiorum meorum, totam terram de Houetona." J.C.Atkinson (ed.), 'Rievaulx Cartulary', p.80]. He married, before 1145, Helewise whose parentage is not known and they founded Keldholm priory, a Benedictine nunnery. As 'domina Helewis uxor Roberti de Stuteuilla' with Osmund 'filius ejus' she witnessed a charter of William de Vescy to the brethren of Farne Island in about 1183. Robert had an interest in Cowesby as shown by a charter of notification dated around 1164-74, by Roger archbishop of York of the settlement of the controversy between Hugh bishop of Durham and Robert de Stuteville relating to the chapel of Cowesby. The dispute continued, however, after his death under the aegis of his son Osmund. Robert died in 1183.
Issue:
-- William son and heir, the king's justice. Married Berta possibly granddaughter (as she appears younger than the 4 daughters and outlived them) of Ranulf de Glanville. [The Durham Liber Vitae lists "Rannulfus de Glanvile et uxor ejus Berta, Matillis, Amabilis, Helewisa, Mabilia filae eorum, et Berct"]. On the death of her son Berta's property fell to Ranulf son of Robert of Middleham, Thomas de Arderne and Hugh de Auberville who each had a third of her lands in Bramham and Leyburn. All three were sons and representatives of the daughters of Ranulph de Glanville. Hugh d.1203, leaving son and heir Robert IV who died s.p.under age in 1205. William also had an illegitimate daughter.
-- Nicholas of Liddel, Cumberland. Succeeded his nephew, Robert IV in 1205. See below.
-- Osmund of Cowesby, Yorks. and Gressenhall, Norfolk. See below.
-- Eustace of Brinklow, Warwickshire d.1218. His son and heir was Robert who was brought up overseas.
-- Robert of Great Ayton and Hemlington, Yorks.
-- Burga. Married to William de Vescy and had Langton as her maritagium, living as a widow in 1185.
-- Helewise. Married (1) William II de Lancaster, lord of Kendal d.1184 by whom she had Helewise (2) Hugh de Moreville of Burgh, Cumberland d. 1202 by whom she had Ada and Joan (3) William son of Ranulf, lord of Greystoke d.1209 by whom she had Thomas. In 1209 Robert de Vipont owed 500 marks for and 5 palfreys for the custody of the land and heirs of William and the marriage of his widow. Helewise died after 1228.
-- Nicholas of Liddel, Cumberland. Succeeded his nephew, Robert IV in 1205. See below.
-- Osmund of Cowesby, Yorks. and Gressenhall, Norfolk. See below.
-- Eustace of Brinklow, Warwickshire d.1218. His son and heir was Robert who was brought up overseas.
-- Robert of Great Ayton and Hemlington, Yorks.
-- Burga. Married to William de Vescy and had Langton as her maritagium, living as a widow in 1185.
-- Helewise. Married (1) William II de Lancaster, lord of Kendal d.1184 by whom she had Helewise (2) Hugh de Moreville of Burgh, Cumberland d. 1202 by whom she had Ada and Joan (3) William son of Ranulf, lord of Greystoke d.1209 by whom she had Thomas. In 1209 Robert de Vipont owed 500 marks for and 5 palfreys for the custody of the land and heirs of William and the marriage of his widow. Helewise died after 1228.
"[Sources: Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants'. p.724 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8, p.5-15, 90, 95 ; Sanders, 'English Baronies: a study of their origin and descent 1086-1327', p.37]
"4. NICHOLAS de Stuteville of Liddel. In 1174 he was in possession of Liddel, Cumberland when the castle was captured by William the Lion. In 1205 he made a fine of 10,000 marks for having his inheritance of everything William, his brother, held, except Knaresborough castle and Boroughbridge which was kept in the king's hands until the fine was paid. It was never paid and those properties passed from the Stuteville family. Nicholas married as his second wife Gunnora, sister and coheir of Ralph d'Aubigny, widow of Gilbert de Gant (d.1191). Gunnora's father was Ralph d'Aubigny, the elder, younger brother of William d'Aubigny 'Brito' of Belvoir. In 1197 a fine was made recognising their right to 15 knights' fees in Auborn and Binbrook, Lincs.and North Dalton, Upper and Lower Naburn, Yorks.as Gunnor's inheritance. An unknown first wife was mother of his sons Robert and Nicholas. Their relationship is established in a charter of notification by four witnesses who stated they were present when Nicholas de Stuteville and his sons, Robert and Nicholas, bound themselves to give 100s rent to Kedholme priory. Nicholas is presumed to be one of the confederate barons who met at Stamford at Easter 1216, captured at Lincoln on 20 May 1217 and dead by 30 March 1218.
Issue:
-- Robert V. Married Sibyl, daughter of Philip Valoignes, who 1192-1205 gave him and Sibyl and the heirs of their bodies the vill of Torpenhow, Cumberland. In the lifetime of his father he received a knight's fee in Middleton which he was holding early in the thirteenth century. He was benefactor of Rosedale priory. He died v.p.before 27 Nov 1213 when Nicholas Stuteville was ordered to deliver Eustace, son and heir of Robert, to Saer, Earl of Winchester. Saer gave the custody of Eustace to his son Roger. Eustace was married to Nichola but died s.p. shortly before 18 Oct 1241 on crusade, and seisin of his lands was ordered to be given to Joan, wife of Hugh Wake.
*- Nicholas II. See below.
*- Nicholas II. See below.
[EYC ix p. 13-18,124 ; Stevenson. Liber Vitae, p.15]
"5. NICHOLAS II de Stuteville. Recorded in the Pipe Roll at Michaelmas 1209 as Nicholas son of Nicholas. After the death of his father he administered the inheritance of his nephew Eustace. Married Dervorguilla, da. of Roland of Galloway, who brought an interest in Whissendine, Rutland to the family in frank marriage. Nicholas died shortly before 19 October 1233 at the priory of St Andrew, York. On 19 November 1233 the sheriff of York was ordered to take his lands which had belonged to him, including the manor of Cottingham, and to assign to Hugh Wake and Joan his wife, Nicholas' elder daughter and heir her reasonable share and seisin, and similarly to William Mastac the
king's kinsman, to whom the king had given the marriage of Margaret, his other daughter and heir.
Issue
-- Joan. Eventually sole heir of her father, she was married to Hugh Wake before 29 May 1229 when Hugh was pardoned for having married her without the king' licence. On the death of her cousin Eustace de Stuteville in 1241, and having outlived her sister, she was sole heir to the Stuteville inheritance comprising Cottingham, Buttercrambe and Kirby Moorside (combined annual value of L660 p.a. in 1282) and the honours of Liddell Strength and Rosedale. Hugh Wake died on crusade in 1241 and on 2 Jan 1242 the king granted to Joan his widow the custody of all the lands to hold until the lawful age of the heirs, together with their marriage and licence to marry at pleasure, for a fine of 10,000 marks. Before Michaelmas 1244 she married Hugh Bigod, Chief Justiciar of England, by whom she was the mother of Roger Bigod who succeeded as earl of Norfolk in 1270. Joan died shortly before 6 April 1276, her heir being her son Sir Baldwin Wake. By Hugh Wake, Joan also had Nicholas, Hugh and possibly Isabel.
-- Margaret. Married to William Mastac. She died s.p. shortly before 13 November 1235.
-- Margaret. Married to William Mastac. She died s.p. shortly before 13 November 1235.
[EYC ix p. 18-23 ; Sanders, Baronies p. 129 ; William Brown, Yorkshire Inquisitions, v.1 p.237-253 ; CP XII/2 p.299]
"4. OSMUND de Stuteville of Cowesby, with holdings in Kepwith, East Ness and Newsham, Brantingham, Riplingham, Newbald, Stillingfleet, Yorks. and Gressenhall, Norfolk. Born bef 1145. Holding two thirds of a fee of Robert de Stuteville, in Yorkshire in 1166. As Cowesby was held by Hugh fitz Baldric at Domesday, the estate was very likely part of that recovered by Robert III de Stuteville, father of Osmund. In a list of benefactions to Rievaulx abbey, there is mention of a gift by Osmund, which William de Stuteville his brother confirmed as overlord, of facilities at Cowesby including a road which the monks made in the time of his father. ["Donationem.quas Osmundus de Stutevilla.fecit Deo.de via de Causeby infra villam et extra, quantum territorium ejusdem villae durat, et nominatim de illa via quam ipsi fecerunt in tempore patris ipsius Osmundi, ad orietalem partem ejusdem villae in ascencu montis, utendum libere sibi et fratribus suis et serventibus et carectis et summaries et animalibus et averiis suis, omni tempore, quantum terra de causeby durat, infra villam et extra, tam versus Leche quam ex alia parte ejusdem villae: Concessionem .quas Willelmus de Stutevilla .. Fecit Deo.de via de Kausebi quam frater suus Osmundus dedit illis." J.C.Atkinson (ed.), 'Rievaulx Cartulary', p.290]. Between 1189 and 1192 Osmund quitclaimed his rights in Cowesby chapel after a settlement with Hugh bishop of Durham. He married Isabel, heiress of the family descended from Wimar, tenant of Gressenhall and Elsing, Norfolk. He died on crusade in Joppa in August 1192. Isabel married secondly William de Huntingfield, following which there was a protracted suit over her dower with William de Stuteville, Osmund's elder brother. She died in 1209.
Issue:
-- John. In 1191 he was on crusade in the company of king Richard, whose god-daughter he married. John was disinherited by Osmund.
-- William, who succeeded his father. See below.
-- Osmund (possibly). Occurs in 1216 with interests in Norfolk, Suffolk and Essex
-- William, who succeeded his father. See below.
-- Osmund (possibly). Occurs in 1216 with interests in Norfolk, Suffolk and Essex
"[Sources: Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants'. p.723 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8 p.34-35, 143]
"5. WILLIAM de Stuteville of Cowesby, Yorks. and Gressenhall, Norfolk. As William, son of Osmund de Stuteville he confirmed to Fountains abbey the gift of half a carucate of land in Newsham in the parish of Kirby Wiske. In 1216 he occurs as a knight of the earl of Warenne. On 5 Nov 1219 the king gave to him in marriage Margery (also known as Margaret), daughter and heir of Hugh de Say, and widow of Hugh de Ferrers d.s.p. 1204 and Robert de Mortimer d 1219, obtaining in her right the honour of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, which he held until his death in 1259. On 8 May 1229 he was granted a yearly fair and a weekly market at his manor at Gressenhall. In 1232 as one of the barons of the Marches, he delivered up Osmund his son as hostage for his fidelity. In Jan 1256-7 he confirmed to Castle Acre priory all the gifts and confirmations of Osmund de Stuteville, his father, and Isabel his mother and of Wimer, Roger his son and all his ancestors. The writs for his inquisitions post mortem are dated 20 May 1259 when Sir Hugh de Mortimer, son of Margery, was found to be heir to property in Shropshire and Worcestershire which William held by courtesy of England.
Issue:
-- Robert described as Robert de Estoteuill', lord of Cowesby, son of William de Estoteuill' in 1270 released to Fountains abbey his right in land and rent in Newsham. He was possibly married to Joan, da. and heir of William Talbot of Gainesburgh, Lincs. He d.s.p shortly before 20 Aug 1275 when his heir was found to be his nephew Jordan Foliot.
-- Osmund. Named as son of William de Stuteville of Richard's Castle, was one of the barons of the March who delivered hostages in June 1233.
-- MARGERY. Married Sir Richard Foliot of Norton and Fenwick, Yorks. and Grimston and Wellow, Notts. Their son, Jordan, was found to be heir of Margery's brother Robert de Stuteville. PRO E42/236 Jordan son of Sir Richard Foliot to Sir William his brother: Grant of his land in Tilney and Islington (Ilsington), [in Tilney], late of Robert de Stotevill his uncle: [Norf.] [Before 4 Edw I]
-- Osmund. Named as son of William de Stuteville of Richard's Castle, was one of the barons of the March who delivered hostages in June 1233.
-- MARGERY. Married Sir Richard Foliot of Norton and Fenwick, Yorks. and Grimston and Wellow, Notts. Their son, Jordan, was found to be heir of Margery's brother Robert de Stuteville. PRO E42/236 Jordan son of Sir Richard Foliot to Sir William his brother: Grant of his land in Tilney and Islington (Ilsington), [in Tilney], late of Robert de Stotevill his uncle: [Norf.] [Before 4 Edw I]
"[Sources: Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8 p.35-37, 143 ; Sanders, 'English Baronies: a study of their origin and descent 1086-1327', p.75 ; CIPM v.1 no.439 ; CIPM v.2 no.133 ; CP V :539; Blomefield, County of Norfolk, v.8 p.201-203; v.8 p.512]
Cheers, Rosie."16,17
Family | Erneburga (?) b. 1083 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison d’ Estouteville, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Estouteville.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert I d'Estouteville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197561&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S4766] Et al Rosie Bevan, ""Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville, wife of Sir Richard Foliot" (30 posts by 9 authors)," e-mail message from
(https://groups.google.com/forum/print/msg/soc.genealogy.medieval/TZJlpxTzthU/mgH3_rtA8SAJ?ctz=5490243_72_76_104100_72_446760) to Email chain on soc.genealogy.medieval mail list, 31 Aug 2002. Hereinafter cited as "Soc.Gen.Med: Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville." - [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#_Toc492794591. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert I d'Estouteville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197561&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison d’ Estouteville, p. 25: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Estouteville.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert II d'Estouteville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197559&tree=LEO
- [S4767] Et al Rosie Bevan, ""Stuteville of Cottingham"," e-mail message from
(https://groups.google.com/forum/print/msg/soc.genealogy.medieval/TZJlpxTzthU/mgH3_rtA8SAJ?ctz=5490243_72_76_104100_72_446760) to Email chain on soc.genealogy.medieval mail list, 31 Aug 2002. Hereinafter cited as "Soc.Gen.Med: Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville." - [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Erneburga 'filia Hugonis': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197560&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#RobertIIEstoutevilledied1138B
- [S4768] Et al Rosie Bevan, ""Stuteville of Long Lawford"," e-mail message from
(https://groups.google.com/forum/print/msg/soc.genealogy.medieval/TZJlpxTzthU/mgH3_rtA8SAJ?ctz=5490243_72_76_104100_72_446760) to Email chain on soc.genealogy.medieval mail list, 3 Sep 2002, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/soc.genealogy.medieval/TZJlpxTzthU/rGonCygSOR4J;context-place=topic/soc.genealogy.medieval/TZJlpxTzthU. Hereinafter cited as "Soc.Gen.Med: Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville." - [S4768] Et al Rosie Bevan, "Soc.Gen.Med: Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville," e-mail to Email chain on soc.genealogy.medieval mail list, 3 Sep 2002.
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Famille d'Estouteville: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famille_d%27Estouteville. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Nicolas I d'Estouteville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197597&tree=LEO
- [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 9 June 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
- [S4766] Et al Rosie Bevan, "Soc.Gen.Med: Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville," e-mail to Email chain on soc.genealogy.medieval mail list, 31 Aug 2002, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.genealogy.medieval/TZJlpxTzthU
- [S4767] Et al Rosie Bevan, "Soc.Gen.Med: Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville," e-mail to Email chain on soc.genealogy.medieval mail list, 31 Aug 2002, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.genealogy.medieval/TZJlpxTzthU
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John de Stuteville, of Long Lawford: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00601783&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William d'Estouteville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00601781&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Osmund de Stuteville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00601742&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/d'Estouteville, p. 17.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert III d'Estouteville, of Cottingham: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197557&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntps.htm#RobertIIIStutevilledied1183B
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Roger de Stuteville, of Burton Agnes: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00385438&tree=LEO
Simon de Moulins-la-Marche1
M, #47555, d. between 1119 and 1129
Last Edited | 10 Mar 2020 |
Simon de Moulins-la-Marche married Adelise de Montfort-sur-Risle, daughter of Hugues III de Montfort-sur-Risle Lord of Haughley,
;
Her 1st husband.1,2
Simon de Moulins-la-Marche died between 1119 and 1129.1
; Per Med Lands:
"SIMON de Moulins-la-Marche (-[1119/29]). Orderic Vitalis names "Simonem et Hugonem" as the two sons of "Guillelmus de Molinis…marchioni" and his second wife "Dudam filiam Gualeranni de Mellento"[616]. Seigneur de Moulins-la-Marche. Orderic Vitalis records that, after succeeding his brother, Simon confirmed his predecessors’ donations to saint-Evroul, with the consent of "Adelina conjuge sua"[617]. Orderic Vitalis records that Henry II King of England installed "Radulfus Rufus et Simon de Molinis" at Evreux after capturing the castle, dated to 1119[618].
"m as her first husband, ADELISE de Montfort-sur-Risle, daughter of HUGUES [III] Seigneur de Montfort-en-Risle & his wife ---. Orderic Vitalis records that, after succeeding his brother, Simon confirmed his predecessors’ donations to saint-Evroul, with the consent of "Adelina conjuge sua"[619]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. She married secondly (before 1130) Robert de Vere, who was Constable of England in 1142. “Robertus de Ver constabularius regis Angliæ et Adeluda filia Hugonis de Monteforte uxor mea” donated property to Monks Horton by charter dated to [1140/44] witnessed by “Gaufrido de Ver et Roberto fratre suo...”[620]."
Med Lands cites:
;
Her 1st husband.1,2
Simon de Moulins-la-Marche died between 1119 and 1129.1
; Per Med Lands:
"SIMON de Moulins-la-Marche (-[1119/29]). Orderic Vitalis names "Simonem et Hugonem" as the two sons of "Guillelmus de Molinis…marchioni" and his second wife "Dudam filiam Gualeranni de Mellento"[616]. Seigneur de Moulins-la-Marche. Orderic Vitalis records that, after succeeding his brother, Simon confirmed his predecessors’ donations to saint-Evroul, with the consent of "Adelina conjuge sua"[617]. Orderic Vitalis records that Henry II King of England installed "Radulfus Rufus et Simon de Molinis" at Evreux after capturing the castle, dated to 1119[618].
"m as her first husband, ADELISE de Montfort-sur-Risle, daughter of HUGUES [III] Seigneur de Montfort-en-Risle & his wife ---. Orderic Vitalis records that, after succeeding his brother, Simon confirmed his predecessors’ donations to saint-Evroul, with the consent of "Adelina conjuge sua"[619]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. She married secondly (before 1130) Robert de Vere, who was Constable of England in 1142. “Robertus de Ver constabularius regis Angliæ et Adeluda filia Hugonis de Monteforte uxor mea” donated property to Monks Horton by charter dated to [1140/44] witnessed by “Gaufrido de Ver et Roberto fratre suo...”[620]."
Med Lands cites:
[616] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber V, XIII, p. 409.
[617] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber V, XIII, p. 410.
[618] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. IV, Liber V, XII, p. 353.
[619] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber V, XIII, p. 410.
[620] Monks Horton, IV, p. 271.1
[617] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber V, XIII, p. 410.
[618] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. IV, Liber V, XII, p. 353.
[619] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber V, XIII, p. 410.
[620] Monks Horton, IV, p. 271.1
Family | Adelise de Montfort-sur-Risle d. a 1142 |
Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm#SimonMoulinslaMarche. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille Bertran(d) de Bricquebec: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bertran.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
Adelise de Montfort-sur-Risle1,2
F, #47556, d. after 1142
Father | Hugues III de Montfort-sur-Risle Lord of Haughley2,3,4 d. b 1100 |
Last Edited | 10 Mar 2020 |
Adelise de Montfort-sur-Risle married Simon de Moulins-la-Marche
;
Her 1st husband.5,4 Adelise de Montfort-sur-Risle married Robert de Vere before 1130
;
Her 2nd husband.6,4
Adelise de Montfort-sur-Risle died after 1142.2
; Per Racines et Histoire: "Adelise de Montfort ép. 1) Simon de Moulins, seigneur de Moulins-La-Marche (fils de Guillaume de Falaise et de Dode de Meulan) ép. 2) Robert de Ver, Connétable d’Angleterre."4
; Per Med Lands:
"ADELISE de Montfort-sur-Risle (-after 1142). Orderic Vitalis records that, after succeeding his brother, Simon confirmed his predecessors’ donations to saint-Evroul, with the consent of "Adelina conjuge sua"[1305]. “Robertus de Ver constabularius regis Angliæ et Adeluda filia Hugonis de Monteforte uxor mea” donated property to Monks Horton by charter dated to [1140/44] witnessed by “Gaufrido de Ver et Roberto fratre suo...”[1306].
"m firstly SIMON Seigneur de Moulins-la-Marche, son of GUILLAUME Seigneur de Moulins-la-Marche & his second wife Doda de Meulan (-[1119/29]).
"m secondly (before 1130) ROBERT de Vere, son of BERNARD de Vere & his wife --- (-after 1142). Constable of England 1142."
Med Lands cites:
;
Her 1st husband.5,4 Adelise de Montfort-sur-Risle married Robert de Vere before 1130
;
Her 2nd husband.6,4
Adelise de Montfort-sur-Risle died after 1142.2
; Per Racines et Histoire: "Adelise de Montfort ép. 1) Simon de Moulins, seigneur de Moulins-La-Marche (fils de Guillaume de Falaise et de Dode de Meulan) ép. 2) Robert de Ver, Connétable d’Angleterre."4
; Per Med Lands:
"ADELISE de Montfort-sur-Risle (-after 1142). Orderic Vitalis records that, after succeeding his brother, Simon confirmed his predecessors’ donations to saint-Evroul, with the consent of "Adelina conjuge sua"[1305]. “Robertus de Ver constabularius regis Angliæ et Adeluda filia Hugonis de Monteforte uxor mea” donated property to Monks Horton by charter dated to [1140/44] witnessed by “Gaufrido de Ver et Roberto fratre suo...”[1306].
"m firstly SIMON Seigneur de Moulins-la-Marche, son of GUILLAUME Seigneur de Moulins-la-Marche & his second wife Doda de Meulan (-[1119/29]).
"m secondly (before 1130) ROBERT de Vere, son of BERNARD de Vere & his wife --- (-after 1142). Constable of England 1142."
Med Lands cites:
[1305] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber V, XIII, p. 410.
[1306] Scott ‘Charters of Monks Horton Priory’ (1876), IV, p. 271.2
[1306] Scott ‘Charters of Monks Horton Priory’ (1876), IV, p. 271.2
Family 1 | Simon de Moulins-la-Marche d. bt 1119 - 1129 |
Family 2 | Robert de Vere d. a 1142 |
Citations
- [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#AdelisaMontfortRisleM2RobertVere. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues II de Montfort-sur-Risle: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00485324&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille Bertran(d) de Bricquebec: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bertran.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm#SimonMoulinslaMarche
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#RobertVerediedafter1142
Anslec de Bastenbourg Seigneur de Briquebec1,2,3
M, #47557, b. circa 910, d. circa 955
Father | Hrolf Rollon Thurstan Bigod (?) Briquebec2,4 b. c 885, d. 945 |
Mother | Gerlotte (?) de Blois2,5 b. c 904, d. 937 |
Reference | GAV32 EDV31 |
Last Edited | 9 Mar 2020 |
Anslec de Bastenbourg Seigneur de Briquebec was born circa 910.6
Anslec de Bastenbourg Seigneur de Briquebec was buried circa 955 at Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Rouen, Rouen, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 910, Bricquebec, Departement de la Manche, Basse-Normandie, France
DEATH unknown, Bricquebec, Departement de la Manche, Basse-Normandie, France
Anslec de Bastembourg, seigneur de Briquebec - 910–955
BIRTH ABT. 910 • Bricquebec, Departement de la Manche, Basse-Normandie, France
DEATH BET. ABT. 955 AND 974 • Bricquebec, Departement de la Manche, Basse-Normandie, France
Anslec de Bastembourg, seigneur de Briquebec: Anslec (Lancelot) de Bastembourg, ancestor of the barons of Briquebec, son of Hrolf Turstin, was a powerful lord in early Normandy. Tradition attributes the foundation of the château at Briquebec, in the northern Cotentin Peninsula (la Manche) of Normandy, to the Norman, Anslech. The dukes of Normandy made Bricquebec one of their strongholds.
Anslec played a powerful political role after Duke William Longsword was assassinated in December 942. Then, he became part of a triumvirate which directed the future of the Norman duchy during the minority of Richard, partnering with Bernard de Pont-Audemer, Osmond de Conteville and Raoul Taisson.
From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anslech_de_Bricquebec
SOURCE: http://stanhopefamilyhistory.webs.com/
1.1.1.2.2.1. Anslech de Briquebec - alias Oslac de Briquebec, a powerful baron, associated with [1.1.1.2.3] Bernard the Dane in the administration of Normandy - tutor to 'Duke' Richard of Normandy. He married Gillette de Beaumont -unknown pedigree. In the rebellion of Richard de St. Saveur, son of [1.1.3.1.] Helgi against [1.1.1.3.1.1.] 'Duke' William Longsword, in 933, Anslech is mentioned by Wace as one of the three Barons who alone remained faithful to the Duke, his second-cousin, by rendering him military service at the seige of Rouen. Their son was Turstain de Bastembourg, 'père de Guillaume, tige des Bertran' [Gustave Saige, Cartulaire de la seigneurie de Fontenay le Marmion, p. 29, 1895]. 'It is deserving of observation that the senior branch of the family held the extensive barony of Bricquebac in Normandy for eight successive generations. The last died as late as the 14th Century, leaving his large possessions, and the castle of Bricquebec, which one of his early ancestors had built, to his eldest daughter, who carried them by marriage to William Paisnel [Paganel], Baron of Hambie' [Memoirs Chiefly Illustrative of the History and Antiquities of Northumberland, Royal Archeological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland, vol. ii., pp. 48-50, 1859].
1.1.1.2.2.1.1. Ertemburge de Briquebec, married her second-cousin [1.1.1.2.3.1.] Torf the Rich - conveyed Crispin lands to him as maritagium.
UNKNOWN de Montfort-sur-Risle was our ancestor through two distinct descent lines--one through his son Toustain and the other through his daughter Gisela, each of whom was independently our ancestor.
( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p246.htm#i27679 )
from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA
( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm )
http://gw.geneanet.org/favrejhas?lang=fr;p=anslech;n=de+bastembourg
Anslech Lancelot de Bastembourg de BASTEMBOURG , Seigneur Curateur de la maison de Bricquebec-Bertrand, Prince Danois
Source: https://www.geni.com/people/Anslec-de-Bastembourg-seigneur-de-Briquebec/5348387843010048347
Family Members
Parents
Hrolf Rollo Thurstan Briquebec 885–945
Gerlotte (Gillette) De Blois Briquebec 914–937
BURIAL Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Rouen, Rouen, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France
Created by: Our Family History
Added: 23 Jun 2018
Find A Grave Memorial 190809306.6
Anslec de Bastenbourg Seigneur de Briquebec died circa 955.6
; Per Wikipedia:
"Anslech or Anslec de Bricquebec (active in the 930s and 940s) played a major political role in the first days of the duchy of Normandy, though the sources on him are rather opaque.
In the Anglo-Norman chronicles
"Around 1000, Dudo of Saint-Quentin evoked Anslech as one of the three secretarii to the jarl of the Normans, William I (v.927-942).[1] A later source, le Roman de Rou, explains that Anslech supported WIlliam when Rioulf began an important rebellion against him.[2]
"We see the same figure again in the writings of William of Jumièges. After the assassination of William I, Anslech, Raoul Taisson l'Ancien and Bernard the Dane formed what William of Jumièges called "guardians of the whole duchy of Normandy",[3] awaiting the majority of the new duke Richard. In 943, they welcomed the king of the Franks, Louis IV to Rouen, who came as overlord to receive the homage of the inhabitants of Rouen.
Rise and fall
"The sagas from Norway and the islands make Anslech a Norman noble, Danish or Norwegian in origin but always from the old Viking nobility. Later Norman traditions made him son of a supposed nephew of the Norman founder, Rollo, William I's father.[4]
"All the same, his descendants continue to be discussed. A tradition - held since the 17th century, though with no evidence - considers him as the ancestor of the families of Montfort and Bertran via his son Tursten of Bastembourg.[5] Finally, he is traditionally presented as the founder of the castle of Bricquebec in Cotentin (perhaps at the beginning of the 10th century), from which comes his nickname Anslech of Bricquebec, though this too is an assumption.
Notes and references
1. Dudo of Saint-Quentin, De moribus et actis primorum Normanniae ducum, Ed. Jules Lair, Caen, F. Le Blanc-Hardel, 1865, p.220
2. Wace and Benoît de Saint-Maure, Roman de Rou, ed. Le Prévost et Langlois, 1827, p.109
3. William of Jumièges, History of the Normans, ed. Guizot, Brière, 1826, Livre IV, p.79 (French translation of Gesta Normannorum ducum written c.1172)
4. (in French) Léchaudé d'Anisy, Recherches sur le Domesday, Le Saulnier, tome 1, 1842, p.244-249
5. (in French) Christophe Maneuvrier, Paysages et sociétés rurales au Moyen Âge. Le Pays d’Auge jusqu’à la fin du XIIIe siècle, doctoral thesis, University of Caen, 2000, vol. 1, (dactyl.), p.98. L'asendance douteuse d'Anslech est notamment reprise de Charles de Gerville, « Mémoires sur les anciens châteaux du département de la Manche », Mémoires de la Société des Antiquaires de Normandie, tome 1, 1825, p.247
Sources
** Dudo of Saint-Quentin, De moribus et actis primorum Normanniae ducum, Ed. Jules Lair, Caen, F. Le Blanc-Hardel, 1865
** William of Jumièges, History of the Normans, ed. Guizot, Brière, 1826, Livre IV, p. 79 (French translation of Gesta Normannorum ducum written c.1172.)3 GAV-32 EDV-31. Anslec de Bastenbourg Seigneur de Briquebec was also known as Anslech de Bricquebec.3
Anslec de Bastenbourg Seigneur de Briquebec was buried circa 955 at Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Rouen, Rouen, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 910, Bricquebec, Departement de la Manche, Basse-Normandie, France
DEATH unknown, Bricquebec, Departement de la Manche, Basse-Normandie, France
Anslec de Bastembourg, seigneur de Briquebec - 910–955
BIRTH ABT. 910 • Bricquebec, Departement de la Manche, Basse-Normandie, France
DEATH BET. ABT. 955 AND 974 • Bricquebec, Departement de la Manche, Basse-Normandie, France
Anslec de Bastembourg, seigneur de Briquebec: Anslec (Lancelot) de Bastembourg, ancestor of the barons of Briquebec, son of Hrolf Turstin, was a powerful lord in early Normandy. Tradition attributes the foundation of the château at Briquebec, in the northern Cotentin Peninsula (la Manche) of Normandy, to the Norman, Anslech. The dukes of Normandy made Bricquebec one of their strongholds.
Anslec played a powerful political role after Duke William Longsword was assassinated in December 942. Then, he became part of a triumvirate which directed the future of the Norman duchy during the minority of Richard, partnering with Bernard de Pont-Audemer, Osmond de Conteville and Raoul Taisson.
From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anslech_de_Bricquebec
SOURCE: http://stanhopefamilyhistory.webs.com/
1.1.1.2.2.1. Anslech de Briquebec - alias Oslac de Briquebec, a powerful baron, associated with [1.1.1.2.3] Bernard the Dane in the administration of Normandy - tutor to 'Duke' Richard of Normandy. He married Gillette de Beaumont -unknown pedigree. In the rebellion of Richard de St. Saveur, son of [1.1.3.1.] Helgi against [1.1.1.3.1.1.] 'Duke' William Longsword, in 933, Anslech is mentioned by Wace as one of the three Barons who alone remained faithful to the Duke, his second-cousin, by rendering him military service at the seige of Rouen. Their son was Turstain de Bastembourg, 'père de Guillaume, tige des Bertran' [Gustave Saige, Cartulaire de la seigneurie de Fontenay le Marmion, p. 29, 1895]. 'It is deserving of observation that the senior branch of the family held the extensive barony of Bricquebac in Normandy for eight successive generations. The last died as late as the 14th Century, leaving his large possessions, and the castle of Bricquebec, which one of his early ancestors had built, to his eldest daughter, who carried them by marriage to William Paisnel [Paganel], Baron of Hambie' [Memoirs Chiefly Illustrative of the History and Antiquities of Northumberland, Royal Archeological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland, vol. ii., pp. 48-50, 1859].
1.1.1.2.2.1.1. Ertemburge de Briquebec, married her second-cousin [1.1.1.2.3.1.] Torf the Rich - conveyed Crispin lands to him as maritagium.
UNKNOWN de Montfort-sur-Risle was our ancestor through two distinct descent lines--one through his son Toustain and the other through his daughter Gisela, each of whom was independently our ancestor.
( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p246.htm#i27679 )
from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA
( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm )
http://gw.geneanet.org/favrejhas?lang=fr;p=anslech;n=de+bastembourg
Anslech Lancelot de Bastembourg de BASTEMBOURG , Seigneur Curateur de la maison de Bricquebec-Bertrand, Prince Danois
Source: https://www.geni.com/people/Anslec-de-Bastembourg-seigneur-de-Briquebec/5348387843010048347
Family Members
Parents
Hrolf Rollo Thurstan Briquebec 885–945
Gerlotte (Gillette) De Blois Briquebec 914–937
BURIAL Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Rouen, Rouen, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France
Created by: Our Family History
Added: 23 Jun 2018
Find A Grave Memorial 190809306.6
Anslec de Bastenbourg Seigneur de Briquebec died circa 955.6
; Per Wikipedia:
"Anslech or Anslec de Bricquebec (active in the 930s and 940s) played a major political role in the first days of the duchy of Normandy, though the sources on him are rather opaque.
In the Anglo-Norman chronicles
"Around 1000, Dudo of Saint-Quentin evoked Anslech as one of the three secretarii to the jarl of the Normans, William I (v.927-942).[1] A later source, le Roman de Rou, explains that Anslech supported WIlliam when Rioulf began an important rebellion against him.[2]
"We see the same figure again in the writings of William of Jumièges. After the assassination of William I, Anslech, Raoul Taisson l'Ancien and Bernard the Dane formed what William of Jumièges called "guardians of the whole duchy of Normandy",[3] awaiting the majority of the new duke Richard. In 943, they welcomed the king of the Franks, Louis IV to Rouen, who came as overlord to receive the homage of the inhabitants of Rouen.
Rise and fall
"The sagas from Norway and the islands make Anslech a Norman noble, Danish or Norwegian in origin but always from the old Viking nobility. Later Norman traditions made him son of a supposed nephew of the Norman founder, Rollo, William I's father.[4]
"All the same, his descendants continue to be discussed. A tradition - held since the 17th century, though with no evidence - considers him as the ancestor of the families of Montfort and Bertran via his son Tursten of Bastembourg.[5] Finally, he is traditionally presented as the founder of the castle of Bricquebec in Cotentin (perhaps at the beginning of the 10th century), from which comes his nickname Anslech of Bricquebec, though this too is an assumption.
Notes and references
1. Dudo of Saint-Quentin, De moribus et actis primorum Normanniae ducum, Ed. Jules Lair, Caen, F. Le Blanc-Hardel, 1865, p.220
2. Wace and Benoît de Saint-Maure, Roman de Rou, ed. Le Prévost et Langlois, 1827, p.109
3. William of Jumièges, History of the Normans, ed. Guizot, Brière, 1826, Livre IV, p.79 (French translation of Gesta Normannorum ducum written c.1172)
4. (in French) Léchaudé d'Anisy, Recherches sur le Domesday, Le Saulnier, tome 1, 1842, p.244-249
5. (in French) Christophe Maneuvrier, Paysages et sociétés rurales au Moyen Âge. Le Pays d’Auge jusqu’à la fin du XIIIe siècle, doctoral thesis, University of Caen, 2000, vol. 1, (dactyl.), p.98. L'asendance douteuse d'Anslech est notamment reprise de Charles de Gerville, « Mémoires sur les anciens châteaux du département de la Manche », Mémoires de la Société des Antiquaires de Normandie, tome 1, 1825, p.247
Sources
** Dudo of Saint-Quentin, De moribus et actis primorum Normanniae ducum, Ed. Jules Lair, Caen, F. Le Blanc-Hardel, 1865
** William of Jumièges, History of the Normans, ed. Guizot, Brière, 1826, Livre IV, p. 79 (French translation of Gesta Normannorum ducum written c.1172.)3 GAV-32 EDV-31. Anslec de Bastenbourg Seigneur de Briquebec was also known as Anslech de Bricquebec.3
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Citations
- [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bertran.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anslech_de_Bricquebec. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 9 November 2019), memorial page for Hrolf Rollo Thurstan “Brico” Briquebec (885–945), Find A Grave Memorial no. 190767997, citing Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Rouen, Rouen, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France ; Maintained by Our Family History (contributor 47719401), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/190767997/hrolf_rollo_thurstan-briquebec. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 08 November 2019), memorial page for Gerlotte (Gillette) De Blois Briquebec (914–937), Find A Grave Memorial no. 190768117, citing Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Rouen, Rouen, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France ; Maintained by Our Family History (contributor 47719401) Burial Details Unknown, at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/190768117/gerlotte_gillette_-briquebec
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 10 November 2019), memorial page for Anslec de Bastembourg (910–unknown), Find A Grave Memorial no. 190809306, citing Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Rouen, Rouen, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France ; Maintained by Our Family History (contributor 47719401), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/190809306/anslec-de_bastembourg
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 16, de BEAUMONT-2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
Turstain/Toussaint de Bertrand (?) seigneur de Bastembourg, Monfort-sur-Risle et Bricquebec1,2
M, #47558, b. circa 927
Father | Anslec de Bastenbourg Seigneur de Briquebec1,2 b. c 910, d. c 955 |
Reference | GAV28 EDV28 |
Last Edited | 28 May 2020 |
Turstain/Toussaint de Bertrand (?) seigneur de Bastembourg, Monfort-sur-Risle et Bricquebec married Aub(e)rée (?)2
Turstain/Toussaint de Bertrand (?) seigneur de Bastembourg, Monfort-sur-Risle et Bricquebec was born circa 927 at Montfort-Sur-Risle, Departement de l'Eure, Haute-Normandie, France; date from Racines et Histoire, place from Cary database.1,2
; Per Med Lands:
"THURSTAN de Bastembourg, son of ---. Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Turstinus...de Bastenburc” had “duos filios Willelmum Bertrannum et Hugonem cum barba de Monteforti”[1282]. No other reference to Thurstan has been found.
"m ---. The name of Thurstan’s wife is not known.
"Thurstan & his wife had three children."
Med Lands cites: [1282] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber VII, XXXVIII, p. 289.3
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/4:698.4 GAV-28 EDV-28 GKJ-28. Turstain/Toussaint de Bertrand (?) seigneur de Bastembourg, Monfort-sur-Risle et Bricquebec was also known as Turstan de Bastenburg.1 Turstain/Toussaint de Bertrand (?) seigneur de Bastembourg, Monfort-sur-Risle et Bricquebec was also known as Thurstan de Bastembourg.5
Turstain/Toussaint de Bertrand (?) seigneur de Bastembourg, Monfort-sur-Risle et Bricquebec was born circa 927 at Montfort-Sur-Risle, Departement de l'Eure, Haute-Normandie, France; date from Racines et Histoire, place from Cary database.1,2
; Per Med Lands:
"THURSTAN de Bastembourg, son of ---. Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Turstinus...de Bastenburc” had “duos filios Willelmum Bertrannum et Hugonem cum barba de Monteforti”[1282]. No other reference to Thurstan has been found.
"m ---. The name of Thurstan’s wife is not known.
"Thurstan & his wife had three children."
Med Lands cites: [1282] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber VII, XXXVIII, p. 289.3
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/4:698.4 GAV-28 EDV-28 GKJ-28. Turstain/Toussaint de Bertrand (?) seigneur de Bastembourg, Monfort-sur-Risle et Bricquebec was also known as Turstan de Bastenburg.1 Turstain/Toussaint de Bertrand (?) seigneur de Bastembourg, Monfort-sur-Risle et Bricquebec was also known as Thurstan de Bastembourg.5
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Family 2 | Aub(e)rée (?) |
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Citations
- [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bertran.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#_Toc492794611. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thurstan de Bastembourg ou de Montfort: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00485330&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#_Toc498534466
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Montfort-sur-Risle, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Montfort-sur-Risle.pdf
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#GuillaumeIBertranB
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues I 'cum barba' de Montfort-sur-Risle: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00485328&tree=LEO
Sir Hugh Wake Knt., of Winterbourne Stoke and Compton, Wilts1,2
M, #47559, d. before 18 May 1312
Father | Sir Baldwin Wake Knt., Lord of Bourne and Liddel1,2 b. c 1238, d. b 10 Feb 1282 |
Mother | Hawise de Quincy1,2 b. c 1250, d. b 27 Mar 1285 |
Last Edited | 12 Dec 2012 |
Sir Hugh Wake Knt., of Winterbourne Stoke and Compton, Wilts married Joan de Bolany, daughter of Baldwin de Bolany,
; her 1st husband.1,2
Sir Hugh Wake Knt., of Winterbourne Stoke and Compton, Wilts died before 18 May 1312.2
; Hugh (Sir), of Winterbourne Stoke, Wilts; m Joan, dau of Baldwin de Bolany, and was ancestor of the WAKEs of Winterbourne Stoke, extinct in the male line in the 15th century.1
; her 1st husband.1,2
Sir Hugh Wake Knt., of Winterbourne Stoke and Compton, Wilts died before 18 May 1312.2
; Hugh (Sir), of Winterbourne Stoke, Wilts; m Joan, dau of Baldwin de Bolany, and was ancestor of the WAKEs of Winterbourne Stoke, extinct in the male line in the 15th century.1
Family | Joan de Bolany d. b 20 Jun 1329 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Wake Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Paulet 9: p. 569. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
- [S2057] Rootsweb WorldConnect Website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id=I16533, online http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi. Hereinafter cited as Weber Databse: Phillips, Weber, Kirk and Staggs.
Robert de Vere1
M, #47560, d. after 1142
Last Edited | 10 Mar 2020 |
Robert de Vere married Adelise de Montfort-sur-Risle, daughter of Hugues III de Montfort-sur-Risle Lord of Haughley, before 1130
;
Her 2nd husband.1,2
Robert de Vere died after 1142.1
; Per Med Lands:
"ROBERT de Vere (-after 1142). He succeeded as Lord of Haughley de iure uxoris. Royal constable and constable of Dover Castle. “Robertus de Ver filius Bernardi” founded Monks Horton by charter dated to [1140/44][1198]. “Robertus de Ver constabularius regis Angliæ et Adeluda filia Hugonis de Monteforte uxor mea” donated property to Monks Horton by charter dated to [1140/44] witnessed by “Gaufrido de Ver et Roberto fratre suo...”[1199].
"m (before 1130) as her second husband, ADELISE de Montfort-sur-Risle, widow of SIMON Seigneur de Moulins-la-Marche, daughter of HUGUES [III] de Montfort-sur-Risle Lord of Haughley & his wife ---. “Robertus de Ver constabularius regis Angliæ et Adeluda filia Hugonis de Monteforte uxor mea” donated property to Monks Horton by charter dated to [1140/44] witnessed by “Gaufrido de Ver et Roberto fratre suo...”[1200]."
Med Lands cites:
;
Her 2nd husband.1,2
Robert de Vere died after 1142.1
; Per Med Lands:
"ROBERT de Vere (-after 1142). He succeeded as Lord of Haughley de iure uxoris. Royal constable and constable of Dover Castle. “Robertus de Ver filius Bernardi” founded Monks Horton by charter dated to [1140/44][1198]. “Robertus de Ver constabularius regis Angliæ et Adeluda filia Hugonis de Monteforte uxor mea” donated property to Monks Horton by charter dated to [1140/44] witnessed by “Gaufrido de Ver et Roberto fratre suo...”[1199].
"m (before 1130) as her second husband, ADELISE de Montfort-sur-Risle, widow of SIMON Seigneur de Moulins-la-Marche, daughter of HUGUES [III] de Montfort-sur-Risle Lord of Haughley & his wife ---. “Robertus de Ver constabularius regis Angliæ et Adeluda filia Hugonis de Monteforte uxor mea” donated property to Monks Horton by charter dated to [1140/44] witnessed by “Gaufrido de Ver et Roberto fratre suo...”[1200]."
Med Lands cites:
Family | Adelise de Montfort-sur-Risle d. a 1142 |
Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#RobertVerediedafter1142. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille Bertran(d) de Bricquebec: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bertran.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
Saher de Saye1
M, #47561, b. 1030
Father | Robert FitzPicot de Saye1 b. 995 |
Last Edited | 25 Feb 2002 |
Saher de Saye married an unknown person.1
He was born in 1030 at Saye, Normandy, France.1
; Saher was the founder of the long line of Scotch Setons was, as has beensaid, a Norman refugee, Saher de Say. His peculiar fore-name, which isfound written Secher, Seyer, Saier, and Sair, is only a corruption orvulgar rendering of Saire, a hermit-saint in the Diocese of Rouen, whosecult was popular among the Norman nobility. In those times proper nameswere all written phonetically and just as the ear caught them, whichaccounts for the numerous forms under which the same name will appear,and sometimes in the very same document. The village and church of SaintSaire, with fourteenth-century glass windows and an ancient cryptcontaining a well, is about five miles from the town ofNeuchƒtel-en-Bray. Saint Saire is perpetuated as a patronymic in Sayers,Sears, and cognate forms which are common family names in England andAmerica, and are of Norman, although not of baronial origin; unless,perhaps, Sears be a corruption not of the Norman, but of the Scoto-CelticSaint Serf (Lat. Servanus), popularly called 'Saint Sear,' who did somuch for the early religious culture of the western districts of Fife.1
He was born in 1030 at Saye, Normandy, France.1
; Saher was the founder of the long line of Scotch Setons was, as has beensaid, a Norman refugee, Saher de Say. His peculiar fore-name, which isfound written Secher, Seyer, Saier, and Sair, is only a corruption orvulgar rendering of Saire, a hermit-saint in the Diocese of Rouen, whosecult was popular among the Norman nobility. In those times proper nameswere all written phonetically and just as the ear caught them, whichaccounts for the numerous forms under which the same name will appear,and sometimes in the very same document. The village and church of SaintSaire, with fourteenth-century glass windows and an ancient cryptcontaining a well, is about five miles from the town ofNeuchƒtel-en-Bray. Saint Saire is perpetuated as a patronymic in Sayers,Sears, and cognate forms which are common family names in England andAmerica, and are of Norman, although not of baronial origin; unless,perhaps, Sears be a corruption not of the Norman, but of the Scoto-CelticSaint Serf (Lat. Servanus), popularly called 'Saint Sear,' who did somuch for the early religious culture of the western districts of Fife.1
Citations
- [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001.
Agnes de Say1
F, #47562, b. 1274
Father | William (IV) de Say1 b. 20 Nov 1253, d. b 16 Sep 1295 |
Last Edited | 18 Jan 2014 |
Agnes de Say married Alexander de Cheyney, son of Alexander de Cheyney.2
Agnes de Say was born in 1274.1
Agnes de Say was also known as Agnes de Saye.2
Agnes de Say was born in 1274.1
Agnes de Say was also known as Agnes de Saye.2
Family | Alexander de Cheyney b. 1268 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1590432&id=I21124
- [S1217] e-mail address, updated 25 Aug 2001.
Joan de Bolany1
F, #47563, d. before 20 June 1329
Father | Baldwin de Bolany1 |
Last Edited | 12 Dec 2012 |
Joan de Bolany married Sir Hugh Wake Knt., of Winterbourne Stoke and Compton, Wilts, son of Sir Baldwin Wake Knt., Lord of Bourne and Liddel and Hawise de Quincy,
; her 1st husband.1,2 Joan de Bolany married Nicholas de Braybrook before 24 May 1325
; her 2nd husband.2
Joan de Bolany died before 20 June 1329.2
Joan de Bolany was also known as Joan de Belauney.2
; her 1st husband.1,2 Joan de Bolany married Nicholas de Braybrook before 24 May 1325
; her 2nd husband.2
Joan de Bolany died before 20 June 1329.2
Joan de Bolany was also known as Joan de Belauney.2
Family 1 | Sir Hugh Wake Knt., of Winterbourne Stoke and Compton, Wilts d. b 18 May 1312 |
Child |
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Family 2 | Nicholas de Braybrook |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Wake Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Paulet 9: p. 569. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
- [S2057] Rootsweb WorldConnect Website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id=I16533, online http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=jweber&id=I07402. Hereinafter cited as Weber Databse: Phillips, Weber, Kirk and Staggs.
Baldwin de Bolany1
M, #47564
Last Edited | 12 Dec 2012 |
Baldwin de Bolany was also known as Baldwin de Belauney.2
Family | |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Wake Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Paulet 9: p. 569. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
(?) Wake1
F, #47565
Father | Sir Baldwin Wake Knt., Lord of Bourne and Liddel1 b. c 1238, d. b 10 Feb 1282 |
Mother | Hawise de Quincy1 b. c 1250, d. b 27 Mar 1285 |
Last Edited | 15 Dec 2002 |
(?) Wake married (?) de Grelle 1st (last) Lord Grelle, son of Sir Robert de Grelle Knt., Baron of Manchester and Cuerdley, Lancs and Hawise de Burgh, before 2 November 1299.1
; A dau; m by 2 Nov 1299 1st and last Lord (Baron) Grelle (dsp by 11 Oct 1311.)1
; A dau; m by 2 Nov 1299 1st and last Lord (Baron) Grelle (dsp by 11 Oct 1311.)1
Family | (?) de Grelle 1st (last) Lord Grelle d. b 11 Oct 1311 |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Wake Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
(?) de Grelle 1st (last) Lord Grelle1,2
M, #47566, d. before 11 October 1311
Father | Sir Robert de Grelle Knt., Baron of Manchester and Cuerdley, Lancs2 b. 1252, d. 15 Feb 1282 |
Mother | Hawise de Burgh2 b. 1256, d. a 1282 |
Last Edited | 18 Mar 2003 |
(?) de Grelle 1st (last) Lord Grelle married (?) Wake, daughter of Sir Baldwin Wake Knt., Lord of Bourne and Liddel and Hawise de Quincy, before 2 November 1299.1
(?) de Grelle 1st (last) Lord Grelle died before 11 October 1311; dsp.1
He was 1st and last Lord (Baron) Grelle of the 1308 cr in 1308.1
(?) de Grelle 1st (last) Lord Grelle died before 11 October 1311; dsp.1
He was 1st and last Lord (Baron) Grelle of the 1308 cr in 1308.1
Family | (?) Wake |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Wake Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de la Warr Family Page.
Sir Nicholas Wake Knt Banneret1
M, #47567
Father | Hugh Wake Baron of Bourne1,2 b. c 1205, d. b 18 Dec 1241 |
Mother | Joan de Stuteville1 d. 6 Apr 1276 |
Last Edited | 10 Jun 2020 |
; Nicholas (Sir); Kt Banneret; taken captive by royalist forces, like his er bro, at their recovery of Northampton 1264.1
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Wake Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3T-Z.htm#HughWakedied1241. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Sir Hugh Wake of Blisworth, Northants, and Deeping, Lincs1
M, #47568, d. 31 May 1315
Father | Hugh Wake Baron of Bourne1,2,3 b. c 1205, d. b 18 Dec 1241 |
Mother | Joan de Stuteville1,4 d. 6 Apr 1276 |
Last Edited | 10 Jun 2020 |
Sir Hugh Wake of Blisworth, Northants, and Deeping, Lincs married Joan de Wolverton.5
Sir Hugh Wake of Blisworth, Northants, and Deeping, Lincs died on 31 May 1315.1
; Hugh (Sir), of Blisworth, Northants, and Deeping, Lincs; MP Northants 1309, 1311 and 1313; pardoned for his part in death of Piers Gaveston 1313; d 31 May 1315.1
Sir Hugh Wake of Blisworth, Northants, and Deeping, Lincs died on 31 May 1315.1
; Hugh (Sir), of Blisworth, Northants, and Deeping, Lincs; MP Northants 1309, 1311 and 1313; pardoned for his part in death of Piers Gaveston 1313; d 31 May 1315.1
Family | Joan de Wolverton b. 1244 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Wake Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugh Wake, of Bourne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140305&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3T-Z.htm#HughWakedied1241. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joane de Stuteville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140306&tree=LEO
- [S2057] Rootsweb WorldConnect Website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id=I16533, online http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi. Hereinafter cited as Weber Databse: Phillips, Weber, Kirk and Staggs.
Sir Thomas Wake of Blisworth, Northants, and Deeping, Lincs1
M, #47569, d. before 15 March 1347
Father | Sir Hugh Wake of Blisworth, Northants, and Deeping, Lincs1 d. 31 May 1315 |
Mother | Joan de Wolverton2 b. 1244 |
Last Edited | 12 Dec 2012 |
Sir Thomas Wake of Blisworth, Northants, and Deeping, Lincs married Elizabeth Cransley of Cransley, Northants, daughter of Hugh Cransley of Cransley, Northants,
; her 2nd husband.1
Sir Thomas Wake of Blisworth, Northants, and Deeping, Lincs died before 15 March 1347 at at the siege of Calais, Calais, France.1
; Thomas (Sir), of Blisworth and Deeping; Sheriff Northants 1329-30 and 1335-36; Ch Falconer to EDWARD III 1343-46, fought Battle of Crécy 1346; m Elizabeth, widow of John of Heigham and dau and heiress of Hugh Cransley, of Cransley, Northants, and d by 15 March 1346/7 while at Siege of Calais, leaving an er s: Thomas (Sir.)1
; her 2nd husband.1
Sir Thomas Wake of Blisworth, Northants, and Deeping, Lincs died before 15 March 1347 at at the siege of Calais, Calais, France.1
; Thomas (Sir), of Blisworth and Deeping; Sheriff Northants 1329-30 and 1335-36; Ch Falconer to EDWARD III 1343-46, fought Battle of Crécy 1346; m Elizabeth, widow of John of Heigham and dau and heiress of Hugh Cransley, of Cransley, Northants, and d by 15 March 1346/7 while at Siege of Calais, leaving an er s: Thomas (Sir.)1
Family | Elizabeth Cransley of Cransley, Northants |
Child |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Wake Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2057] Rootsweb WorldConnect Website: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id=I16533, online http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi. Hereinafter cited as Weber Databse: Phillips, Weber, Kirk and Staggs.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Pateshulle 9: p. 569. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
Elizabeth Cransley of Cransley, Northants1,2
F, #47570
Father | Hugh Cransley of Cransley, Northants1,2 |
Last Edited | 12 Dec 2012 |
Elizabeth Cransley of Cransley, Northants married Sir Thomas Wake of Blisworth, Northants, and Deeping, Lincs, son of Sir Hugh Wake of Blisworth, Northants, and Deeping, Lincs and Joan de Wolverton,
; her 2nd husband.1 Elizabeth Cransley of Cransley, Northants married John (?) of Heigham.1
; her 2nd husband.1 Elizabeth Cransley of Cransley, Northants married John (?) of Heigham.1
Family 1 | John (?) of Heigham |
Family 2 | Sir Thomas Wake of Blisworth, Northants, and Deeping, Lincs d. b 15 Mar 1347 |
Child |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Wake Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Pateshulle 9: p. 569. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
Sir John Cheyney Knt., of Shurland, Kent1,2,3
M, #47571, b. 1433
Father | William de Cheyney1 b. 1396 |
Mother | Eleanor Salerne1,4 |
Last Edited | 28 Aug 2019 |
Sir John Cheyney Knt., of Shurland, Kent married Eleanor Shottesbrooke, daughter of Sir Robert Shottesbrook Knt., of Faringdon, Compton Beauchamp, etc., Berkshire and Edith Stourton.5,3,6
Sir John Cheyney Knt., of Shurland, Kent was born in 1433 at Shurland House, Eastchurch, co. Kent, England.1
Sir John Cheyney Knt., of Shurland, Kent was also known as John Cheyney Knt.7
Sir John Cheyney Knt., of Shurland, Kent was born in 1433 at Shurland House, Eastchurch, co. Kent, England.1
Sir John Cheyney Knt., of Shurland, Kent was also known as John Cheyney Knt.7
Family | Eleanor Shottesbrooke |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001.
- [S1581] Kelsey J. Williams, "Williams email 23 Feb 2004 "Re: Assorted Unidentified Lords from Burke's Peerage"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Feb 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Williams email 23 Feb 2004."
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Saint John 12: pp. 626-7. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleanor Salern (Salerne): https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00700945&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1581] Kelsey J. Williams, "Williams email 23 Feb 2004," e-mail to e-mail address, 23 Feb 2004, Eleanor, dau. of Sir John Shottisbrooke. (CP III: 191-92).
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleanor Shottesbrooke: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00696538&tree=LEO
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Launce 15: pp. 441-442.
William de Cheyney1
M, #47572, b. 1396
Father | Sir Richard de Cheyney of Shurland House1,2 b. 1355 |
Mother | Margery/Margaret Cralle1,3 b. 1355, d. 1384 |
Last Edited | 28 Aug 2019 |
William de Cheyney was born in 1396 at Shurland House, Eastchurch, co. Kent, England.1 He married Eleanor Salerne, daughter of John Salerne of Rye & Leigh and Alice (?), before February 1405.1,4
Family | Eleanor Salerne |
Child |
Citations
- [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Richard de Cheyney (Cheyne), of Shurland House: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00668856&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margery|Margaret Cralle: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00668857&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleanor Salern (Salerne): https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00700945&tree=LEO
Eleanor Salerne1
F, #47573
Father | John Salerne of Rye & Leigh1,2 d. b 8 Dec 1415 |
Mother | Alice (?)3 |
Last Edited | 28 Aug 2019 |
Eleanor Salerne married William de Cheyney, son of Sir Richard de Cheyney of Shurland House and Margery/Margaret Cralle, before February 1405.1,4
Eleanor Salerne was also known as Eleanor Salern.4
Eleanor Salerne was also known as Eleanor Salern.4
Family | William de Cheyney b. 1396 |
Child |
Citations
- [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Salerne, of Rye & Leigh: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00709120&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00709121&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleanor Salern (Salerne): https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00700945&tree=LEO
Sir Richard de Cheyney of Shurland House1,2
M, #47574, b. 1355
Father | Sir Robert de Cheyney of Shurland1 b. 1305, d. 1365 |
Mother | Margaret (?)3 |
Last Edited | 28 Aug 2019 |
Sir Richard de Cheyney of Shurland House married Margery/Margaret Cralle, daughter of Robert de Cralle and Margaret Peplesham.1,2,4
Sir Richard de Cheyney of Shurland House was born in 1355 at Shurland House, Eastchurch, co. Kent, England.1,2
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Harleian Society Publications Visitation series . 57:103, 53:80
2. Sussex Archaeological Collection Vol III (1849) . 25;110
3. The Wallop Family and Their Ancestry 1928 , Watney, Vernon James. 196
4. Ancestor list of Lucy and Emily O'Connor 2015 , O'Connor, Robert. 2,394,060
5. Magna Carta Ancestry. 2005 , Richardson, Douglas. 690.2
Sir Richard de Cheyney of Shurland House was born in 1355 at Shurland House, Eastchurch, co. Kent, England.1,2
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Harleian Society Publications Visitation series . 57:103, 53:80
2. Sussex Archaeological Collection Vol III (1849) . 25;110
3. The Wallop Family and Their Ancestry 1928 , Watney, Vernon James. 196
4. Ancestor list of Lucy and Emily O'Connor 2015 , O'Connor, Robert. 2,394,060
5. Magna Carta Ancestry. 2005 , Richardson, Douglas. 690.2
Family | Margery/Margaret Cralle b. 1355, d. 1384 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Richard de Cheyney (Cheyne), of Shurland House: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00668856&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00676870&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margery|Margaret Cralle: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00668857&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margery Cheyney: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00668855&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Cheyne (Cheyne), of Shurland Hall: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00331774&tree=LEO
Margery/Margaret Cralle1,2
F, #47575, b. 1355, d. 1384
Father | Robert de Cralle1,2 b. 1343 |
Mother | Margaret Peplesham1,2 b. 1346, d. 21 Jan 1406 |
Last Edited | 28 Aug 2019 |
Margery/Margaret Cralle married Sir Richard de Cheyney of Shurland House, son of Sir Robert de Cheyney of Shurland and Margaret (?).1,3,2
Margery/Margaret Cralle was born in 1355 at Cralle Manor, Warbleton, co. Sussex, England.1,2
Margery/Margaret Cralle died in 1384 at Eastchurch, co. Kent, England.2
Margery/Margaret Cralle was born in 1355 at Cralle Manor, Warbleton, co. Sussex, England.1,2
Margery/Margaret Cralle died in 1384 at Eastchurch, co. Kent, England.2
Family | Sir Richard de Cheyney of Shurland House b. 1355 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margery|Margaret Cralle: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00668857&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Richard de Cheyney (Cheyne), of Shurland House: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00668856&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margery Cheyney: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00668855&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Cheyne (Cheyne), of Shurland Hall: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00331774&tree=LEO
Sir Robert de Cheyney of Shurland1,2
M, #47576, b. 1305, d. 1365
Father | William de Cheyney1 b. 1297 |
Mother | Margaret Shurland1 b. 1310 |
Last Edited | 28 Aug 2019 |
Sir Robert de Cheyney of Shurland married Margaret (?)3,2
Sir Robert de Cheyney of Shurland was born in 1305 at Shurland House, Eastchurch, co. Kent, England.1,2
Sir Robert de Cheyney of Shurland died in 1365;
Per Genealogics: "said to have killed by his horse falling on him."2
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Harleian Society Publications Visitation series . 57:103
2. Sussex Archaeological Collection Vol III (1849) . 25;110
3. The Wallop Family and Their Ancestry 1928 , Watney, Vernon James. 196
4. Ancestor list of Lucy and Emily O'Connor 2015 , O'Connor, Robert. 2,394,060
5. Magna Carta Ancestry. 2005 , Richardson, Douglas. 690.2
Sir Robert de Cheyney of Shurland was born in 1305 at Shurland House, Eastchurch, co. Kent, England.1,2
Sir Robert de Cheyney of Shurland died in 1365;
Per Genealogics: "said to have killed by his horse falling on him."2
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Harleian Society Publications Visitation series . 57:103
2. Sussex Archaeological Collection Vol III (1849) . 25;110
3. The Wallop Family and Their Ancestry 1928 , Watney, Vernon James. 196
4. Ancestor list of Lucy and Emily O'Connor 2015 , O'Connor, Robert. 2,394,060
5. Magna Carta Ancestry. 2005 , Richardson, Douglas. 690.2
Family | Margaret (?) |
Child |
Citations
- [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Robert de Cheyne (Cheney), of Shurland: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00676869&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00676870&tree=LEO
William de Cheyney1
M, #47577, b. 1297
Father | Alexander de Cheyney1 b. 1268 |
Mother | Agnes de Say1 b. 1274 |
Last Edited | 18 Jan 2014 |
William de Cheyney married Margaret Shurland, daughter of Robert Shurland.1
William de Cheyney was born in 1297 at Street, co. Sussex, England.1
William de Cheyney was born in 1297 at Street, co. Sussex, England.1
Family | Margaret Shurland b. 1310 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001.
Margaret Shurland1
F, #47578, b. 1310
Father | Robert Shurland1 b. 1278 |
Last Edited | 18 Jan 2014 |
Margaret Shurland married William de Cheyney, son of Alexander de Cheyney and Agnes de Say.1
Margaret Shurland was born in 1310 at Shurland House, Eastchurch, co. Kent, England.1
Margaret Shurland was born in 1310 at Shurland House, Eastchurch, co. Kent, England.1
Family | William de Cheyney b. 1297 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001.
Alexander de Cheyney1
M, #47579, b. 1268
Father | Alexander de Cheyney1 b. 1236 |
Last Edited | 18 Jan 2014 |
Alexander de Cheyney married Agnes de Say, daughter of William (IV) de Say.1
Alexander de Cheyney was born in 1268 at Newtimber, co. Sussex, England.1
Alexander de Cheyney was born in 1268 at Newtimber, co. Sussex, England.1
Family | Agnes de Say b. 1274 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001.
Hugh Cransley of Cransley, Northants1
M, #47580
Last Edited | 12 Dec 2012 |
Family | |
Child |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Wake Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Pateshulle 9: p. 569. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.