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      ; Per Med Lands: "WALERAN de Hainaut . The Chronologia Johannes de Beke names (in order) "Iohannem primogenitum, Wilhelmum succedentem Hollandie comitem, Iohannem de Bellomonte, dominum Henricum Cameracensem canonicum, domicellum Walravenum, Iohannam abbatissam Fontanalecensem, Margareta comitissam Atrabatensem, Adelheydim comitissam Claromontensem, Mariam comitissam de Berbenoys, Machtildim dominam de Niele" as children of Count Jean & his wife[476]."
Med Lands cites: [476] Chronologia Johannes de Beke 78a, p. 255.² Waleran (?) de Hainaut was living in 1303.¹

     Simon (?) batard de Hainaut, seigneur de Bruyelle died in 1356.¹

     Willem (?) de Cuser, batard de Hainaut married Ida (?) van Oosterwijk
; his 1st wife.¹ Willem (?) de Cuser, batard de Hainaut married Machteld (?) van Heemstede
; his 2nd wife.¹
     Willem (?) de Cuser, batard de Hainaut was living in 1358.¹

     Hendrik (?) batard de Hainaut died in 1359.¹

     Aleide (?) batarde de Hainaut married Wolfert II (?) van Borsselen, son of Woldfard I van Borselen Heer van Vere, Heer van Zandenburg and Cibilie van Randerode, in 1312
;
Her 1st husband.^1,4 Aleide (?) batarde de Hainaut married Otto III van Buren Heer van Buren in 1317
;
Her 2nd husband.^1,4,5
Aleide (?) batarde de Hainaut died in 1351.^1,4
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "ALEID (-1351). Willem III Count of Holland recorded that “onser...suster, der Vrouwen van der Vere, die Haren Wolfaerds wyfe was” had agreed with “Heren Ghererde van Heemskerke, van der vrouwen weghen van Wissekerke” concerning property, by charter dated 9 Mar 1317[484]. Willem III Count of Holland confirmed the agreement between “Veren Aleyden onser zuster vrouwen van Zandenburch ende van Buren” and “Kervinghe van Reymerswale...”, at the request of “Heren Floreynse van Berselen ende Clayse van Berselen sinen broeder”, by charter dated 1 Mar 1326[485].
     "m firstly ([1312]) WOLFARD [II] van Borselen, son of WOLFARD [I] Heer van Borselen & his first wife Cibilie van Randerode (-[30 May/22 Jul] 1316).
     "m secondly (1317) OTTO [III] Heer van Buren, son of --- (-before 1329)."
Med Lands cites:

     Wolfert II (?) van Borsselen married Aleide (?) batarde de Hainaut, daughter of Jan II d'Avesnes Comte de Hainaut, Graaf van Holland, in 1312
;
Her 1st husband.^1,3
Wolfert II (?) van Borsselen died between 30 May 1316 and 22 July 1316.^1,2
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "WOLFARD [II] van Borselen (-[30 May/22 Jul] 1316). A charter dated 11 May 1309 records the arbitration settlement of the bishop of Utrecht concerning "heren Wolfaert ende heren Florens ridders, Vranken ende Clais knapen" children of "heren Wolfaers…van Borsselen"[1080]. Heer van Zandenburg. “Wolfaerd van Borsele Here van Zandenburch” settled the inheritance of their father with “minere broedere...Florence, Ridder, ende Vranken, ende Clayse van Berselen” by charter dated 30 May 1316[1081].
     "m ([1312]) as her first husband, ALEID, illegitimate daughter of JEAN II Comte de Hainaut [JAN II Count of Holland] & his mistress --- (-1351). Willem III Count of Holland recorded that “onser...suster, der Vrouwen van der Vere, die Haren Wolfaerds wyfe was” had agreed with “Heren Ghererde van Heemskerke, van der vrouwen weghen van Wissekerke” concerning property, by charter dated 9 Mar 1317[1082]. She married secondly (before 22 Jul 1316) Otto Heer van Buren. Willem III Count of Holland confirmed the agreement between “Veren Aleyden onser zuster vrouwen van Zandenburch ende van Buren” and “Kervinghe van Reymerswale...”, at the request of “Heren Floreynse van Berselen ende Clayse van Berselen sinen broeder”, by charter dated 1 Mar 1326[1083]."
Med Lands cites: Wolfert II (?) van Borsselen was also known as Wolard II van Borselen.²

     Otto III van Buren Heer van Buren married Aleide (?) batarde de Hainaut, daughter of Jan II d'Avesnes Comte de Hainaut, Graaf van Holland, in 1317
;
Her 2nd husband.^1,3,2
Otto III van Buren Heer van Buren died before 1329.^1,2
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "OTTO [III] van Buren (-before 1329). Heer van Buren. Willem III Count of Holland acknowledged the jurisdiction of “Otten van Buren onsen zuagher” over “Ternisse” by charter dated 18 Dec 1321[57].
     "m ([1317]) as her second husband, ALEID, widow of WOLFARD [II] van Borselen Heer van Zandenburg, illegitimate daughter of JEAN II Comte de Hainaut [JAN II Count of Holland] & his mistress --- (-1351). Willem III Count of Holland recorded that “onser...suster, der Vrouwen van der Vere, die Haren Wolfaerds wyfe was” had agreed with “Heren Ghererde van Heemskerke, van der vrouwen weghen van Wissekerke” concerning property, by charter dated 9 Mar 1317[58]. Willem III Count of Holland confirmed the agreement between “Veren Aleyden onser zuster vrouwen van Zandenburch ende van Buren” and “Kervinghe van Reymerswale...”, at the request of “Heren Floreynse van Berselen ende Clayse van Berselen sinen broeder”, by charter dated 1 Mar 1326[59]."
Med Lands cites:

     Ida (?) batarde de Hainaut died in 1351.¹

     Anna (?) of Bavaria was born circa 1340.¹
Anna (?) of Bavaria died circa 1343.¹
      ; van de Pas cites: Genealogie der Graven van Holland, Zaltbommel, 1969 , Dek, Dr. A. W. E.¹

     Ludwig (?) of Bavaria was born in October 1347 at Munich (München), Stadtkreis München, Bavaria (Bayern), Germany (now).¹
Ludwig (?) of Bavaria died in 1348.¹
      ; van de Pas cites: Genealogie der Graven van Holland, Zaltbommel, 1969 , Dek, Dr. A. W. E.¹

     Baudouin III (?) de Thiennes married Jeanne (?) de Hainaut, daughter of Guillaume I/III 'Le Bon' (?) comte de Hainaut, et d'Ostrevant, de Hollande, Frise et Zelande and Jeanne/Joanna/Joan de Valois, after 26 February 1362
;
Her 2nd husband.^1,2
     ; Per Med LANDS:
     "JEANNE de Hainaut ([1311/13]-1374). "Guillaumes cuens de Haynau, de Hollande, de Zeelande, et sires de Frize" and "Gherars cuens de Julers" agreed the marriage of "Jehane fille a…conte Guillaume" and "Guillaume fil a…conte Gherart" by charter dated 24 Jun 1317, witnessed by "…nos…cousins Renaut conte de Ghelre et Renaut son filz…"[495]. The Willelmi Capellani in Brederode Chronicon ("Procurator") records the betrothal of "Willelmus comes Hollandie binas filias", adding that "secunda" (unnamed) was betrothed to "juveni…Juliacensis…comitis filio", dated to 1323 from the context[496]. The same source records the marriages of the same two daughters taking place at Köln 26 Feb 1324[497]. The History of Henricus Dapifer de Diessenhoven records that "dominus Ludewicus et rex Anglie et marchio Iuliacensis" had married "tres…sorores…fillies comitis Hannonie sive Hollandie"[498]. Froissart names "Jehane et…Issabiel" as the sisters of "Phelippe…roine d’Engleterre", adding in a later passage that "Jehanne…estoit contesse de Jullers"[499]. The primary source which confirms her supposed second marriage has not yet been identified. The marriage is recorded by Gailliard who notes that "Baudouin de Luxembourg dit de Thiennes, seigneur de ce lieu, de Heuchin, la Planque, sénéchal héréditaire de Flandre" (with the parents who are noted below) married "Jeanne de Hainaut veuve sans enfants de Gérard de Juliers et fille de Guillaume-le-Bon comte de Hainaut et de Jeanne de Valois", implying that she was the mother of the son who is named in the same so[urce (which would be incredible considering the date her first husband died)[500]. No primary source is cited, but given the number of errors in this short extract, it is suggested that Jeanne’s supposed second marriage should be viewed with caution until a more reliable source emerges.]
     "m [firstly] (Köln [25 or 26 Feb] 1324) WILHELM [V] von Jülich, son of GERHARD Graf von Jülich & his wife Elisabeth de Brabant (-26 Feb 1362). He succeeded in 1328 as Graf von Jülich. Markgraf von Jülich 1336. Duke of Jülich 1357.
     "[m secondly BAUDOUIN [III] Seigneur de Thiennes, son of BAUDOUIN de Luxembourg Seigneur de la Planque & his wife Alix d’Aire Dame de Thiennes et d’Euchin.]"
Med Lands cites:

     Agnès (?) de Bayeux married Robert II fitz Hugh de Grandmesnil, son of Hugh I de Grandmesnil Count of Grentmesnil, seigneur de Brokesborne and Adelaide/Aelis de Beaumont-sur-Oise,
;
His 3rd wife per Med Lands.^1,7,5
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "ROBERT de Grantmesnil ([before 1060]-1 Jun [1136], bur Ouche Saint-Evroul). Orderic Vitalis names “Rodbertum, Guillelmum, Hugonem, Ivonem, Albericum” as the sons of “Hugo de Grentemaisnilio” and his wife “Adelidem filiam Ivonis comitis de Bellomonte”[353]. Considering that Robert's younger brother Guillaume was considered of marriageable age before [1081] (see below), it is unlikely that Robert was born later than [1060], although this would mean that he was probably in his fifties at the time of his first marriage (considering the estimated birth date range of his first wife) which seems surprising. “…Rotberti de Grentemaisnillo, Ivonis de Grentemaisnillo…” witnessed the charter dated Sep 1093 under which William II King of England donated property to Lincoln cathedral[354]. "…Robert de Grentone-Maisnil…" witnessed the undated charter under which Robert III Duke of Normandy donated property to Saint-Etienne de Caen[355]. "Robert de Grantemsnil et Robert de sancto Serenico" confirmed donations of property to the abbey of Saint-Evroul made by "their progenitors Hugh and Robert de Grentemesnil" by charter dated to [1127/28][356]. Orderic Vitalis records that Robert de Grantmesnil died “Kal Jun” 38 years after his father and was buried at Ouche “cum duabus uxoribus suis: Agnete et Emma”[357].
     "m [firstly] [as her second husband,] EMMA d’Estouteville, [widow of ERRAND Seigneur d'Harcourt[358],] daughter of ROBERT [I] d'Estouteville & his wife [Beatrix ---] (-bur Ouche Saint-Evroul). Orderic Vitalis records that Robert de Grantmesnil, son of “Hugo de Grentemaisnilio” and his wife, married secondly “Emmam Rodberti de Stotevilla filiam”[359]. The chronology of these families suggests that Emma must have been Robert’s first wife not his second. The Liber Vitæ of Durham names "Robertus de Stuteville, Beatrix uxor eius, Robertus, Graulfus, Willelmus filii eorum, Emma Robertus…" and in a later passage the same names with the last two replaced by "Emme uxor Rodberti, Rodbertus filius eius…"[360]. La Roque states that “une généalogie de la maison d’Estouteville” names Errand’s wife as “Emme et la comprend entre ceux du sang...[de] Robert d’Estouteville”, suggesting that she was the same person who later married “Hugues de Grentesmesnil”[361]. The passage is somewhat garbled and in any case La Roque does not provide a citation reference to the source in question or quote it in his “Preuves”. It is suggested that, until further documentation comes to light, this supposed marriage of Errand should be treated with caution. Orderic Vitalis records that Robert de Grantmesnil died “Kal Jun” 38 years after his father and was buried at Ouche “cum duabus uxoribus suis: Agnete et Emma”[362].
     "m [secondly] LUCY, daughter of SAVARY de Beaumont-au-Maine & his wife Muriel de Bohun. Orderic Vitalis records that Robert de Grantmesnil, son of “Hugo de Grentemaisnilio” and his wife, married thirdly “Luciam Savarici filii Cani filiam”[363]. Given the likely chronology of Robert’s wife Agnes, it is probable that Lucy was his second rather than his third wife.
     "m [thirdly] AGNES [Aveline], daughter of RANULF "le Meschin" Vicomte du Bessin [Bayeux] [later Earl of Chester] & his wife Lucy --- ([1098/1105]-bur Ouche Saint-Evroul). Orderic Vitalis records that Robert de Grantmesnil, son of “Hugo de Grentemaisnilio” and his wife, married firstly “Agnetem Ranulfi Bajocensis filiam”[364]. Her birth date range is estimated from the likely marriage date of her parents. If that range is correct, it is more likely that Agnes was Robert’s third wife than his first. Orderic Vitalis records that Robert de Grantmesnil died “Kal Jun” 38 years after his father and was buried at Ouche “cum duabus uxoribus suis: Agnete et Emma”[365]."
Med Lands cites:

; van de Pas cites: A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 365.²

; Per Med Lands:
     "AGNES ([1098/1105]-bur Ouche Saint-Evroul). Orderic Vitalis records that Robert de Grantmesnil, son of “Hugo de Grentemaisnilio” and his wife, married firstly “Agnetem Ranulfi Bajocensis filiam”[80]. Her birth date range is estimated from the likely marriage date of her parents. If that range is correct, it is more likely that Agnes was Robert’s third wife than his first. Orderic Vitalis records that Robert de Grantmesnil died “Kal Jun” 38 years after his father and was buried at Ouche “cum duabus uxoribus suis: Agnete et Emma”[81].
     "m as his [third] wife, ROBERT de Grantmesnil, son of HUGUES de Grantmesnil & his wife Adelisa [Aelis] de Beaumont-sur-Oise (-1 Jun [1136], bur Ouche Saint-Evroul)."
Med Lands cites:

     Osmund d'Estouteville of Weston Colville and Burton Agnes, Yorks died before 1172.^1,3
     Reference: Genealogics cites: The de Stuteville Family, 2012 , Ravilious, John.³

; Per Bevans on Soc Gen Med: "Osmund of Weston Colville and Burton Agnes, Yorks. d. bef 1172. Succeeded by son Roger."¹ Osmund d'Estouteville of Weston Colville and Burton Agnes, Yorks was also known as Osmund de Stuteville.³

      ; van de Pas cites: A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 365.¹

     Hélisende Le Goz d'Avranches married Guillaume II (?) Cte d'Eu, Lord of Hastings, son of Robert I d'Eu Comte d'Eu and Beatrice (?),
;
His 2nd wife.^{9,10,11,3,2,4,8} Hélisende Le Goz d'Avranches was born circa 1045.⁸
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "GUILLAUME d'Eu (-2 Jan after 1096). "Robertus comes Augensis…uxore Beatrice et filiis meis Radulfo, Willermo atque Roberto" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport by a charter dated 1036, witnessed by "Hugo vicecomes"[1026]. Domesday Book records land held by “William de Eu” in King’s Somborne in Somborne Hundred, Deane in Chuteley Hundred, and Silchester in Holdshott Hundred in Hampshire, in Reading, Kintbury and Wantage Hundreds in Berkshire, numerous land-holdings in Wiltshire, land in Hertfordshire[1027]. He ravaged Gloucestershire in 1089 after plundering Berkeley castle[1028]. He succeeded in [1093] as Comte d'Eu, Lord of Hastings. Florence of Worcester records that "Willelmi comes de Owe" deserted Robert Duke of Normandy in [1093/94] "won over by his greediness of lucre and attracted by the promise of vast domains" by William II King of England[1029]. Florence of Worcester records that "Northymbrensis comes Rotbertus de Mulbrei et Willelmus de Owe" conspired against William II King of England in [1095], planning to place "filium amitæ illius Stephanus de Albamarno" on the English throne[1030]. The same source records that Guillaume was captured after being vanquished in a duel, and condemned at Salisbury 13 Jan 1096 to be blinded and castrated[1031]. The necrology of the church of Eu records the death "2 Jan" of "Guillelmus primus comes Augi, fundator hujus ecclesiæ"[1032]. The necrology of Ulterioris Portus monastery records the death "2 Jan" of "Augensis comes Guillermus...Roberti, nostri monasterii fundatoris, filii"[1033].
     "m firstly BEATRICE, sister of ROGER de Builly Lord of Tickhill, daughter of --- & his wife --- (-2 Sep ----). She is named as the first wife of Comte Guillaume in the Complete Peerage, which does not cite the primary source on which the information is based[1034]. The primary source which confirms her origin has not yet been identified. The necrology of Longpont records the death “IV Non Sep” of “Beatrix comitissa”[1035].
     "m secondly HELISENDE d'Avranches, daughter of RICHARD Vicomte d'Avranches & his wife ---. Her marriage is referred to by Orderic Vitalis, who says that she was the sister of Hugh Earl of Chester but does not give her name[1036]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Comtes d’Eu): “1) Guillaume II d’Eu °~1045 comte d’Eu (1093) + un 02/01 après 1096 ravage le Gloucestershire (1089) près Berkeley, fait Lord of Hastings (Sussex), vénal et ambitieux, il abandonne la cause de Robert, duc de Normandie au profit de Guillaume II «Le Roux» (1093/94), plus généreux, puis conspire avec Robert de Mowbray, earl of Northumberland (1095) contre le même Roi Guillaume II, partisan d’Etienne, comte d’Aumale, il est vaincu en combat, capturé, condamné (13/01/1096, Salisbury) à être aveuglé et châtré, probablement exécuté peu après (1097 ?)
     ép. 1) Béatrice de Builly (soeur de Roger de Builly, Lord of Tickhill)
     ép. 2) Hélisende d’Avranches ° ~1065 (fille de Richard Goz, vicomte d’Avranches, et d’Emma de Conteville, fille d’Herluin de Conteville et d’Herleue de Falaise ; soeur de l’earl of Chester) liaison(s) avec ?) ”.³
; Per Boyer:
     "WILLIAMS, the Count d'Eu and lord of Hastings, Sussex, died about 1095/6 [CP, 14:311].
     "He married first BEATRICE5 DE BUILLY, heiress ofTickhill, Yorkshire.
     "He manied possibly second Helisende d'Avranches (sister of Hugh, Earl of Chester), daughter of Richard fitz Toustain Goz, vicomte d' Avranches.
     "In 1093 Rufus won him over by bribes, but in 1095 he participated in Mowbray's plot to kill the king and place the Count of Aumale on the throne, while known as William de Owe or de Auco [CP, 5:154a, 14:311].
     "Child, by first wife:

Reference: Genealogics cites: Hélisende Le Goz d'Avranches was also known as Jenare d'Avranches.⁸

; Per Racines et Histoire (Avranches): “Hélissende d’Avranches
     ép. Guillaume II, comte d’Eu + 02/01/1096 (fils de Robert, comte d’Eu, et de Béatrix)”.¹⁰

; Per Med Lands:
     "HELISENDE d'Avranches . Her marriage is referred to by Orderic Vitalis, who says that she was the sister of Hugh Earl of Chester but does not give her name[125]. The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified.
     "m as his second wife, GUILLAUME [II] Comte d'Eu, son of ROBERT Comte d'Eu & his first wife Beatrix --- (-2 Jan after 1096)."
Med Lands cites:

     Noga (?) de Tinténiac married Gelduin II (?) de Dol.¹

     GAV-26.

     Maud fitz Urse married Robert de Courtenay Lord of Sutton Courtenay, son of Renaud de Courtenay Lord of Courtenay and Hawise/Hedwige du Donjon.^1,4

      ; van de Pas cites: The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: 12.¹

     Renaud fitz Urse of Bulwick married Beatrice de Limesy, daughter of Geoffrey de Limesy.^4,1,5

      ; van de Pas cites: 1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: III 629
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 72/73.¹ Renaud fitz Urse of Bulwick was living in 1170.¹

     Beatrice de Limesy married Renaud fitz Urse of Bulwick, son of Richard fitz Urse and Maud de Boulers.^1,4,3

     Beatrice de Limesy lived at an unknown place ; Per Med Lands:
     "BEATRICE de Limesey . Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by a claim dated 1220, recorded by Bracton, by "Vitalis Engaun et Rogerus Gernet" against "Willelmum de Cantelupo et Maziliam uxorem eius" which recites that "Gaufridus de Limeseia" had "unum filium Walterum…et duas filias Beatriciam et Matillidem", that Beatrice married "Reginaldus"[604]. m REYNOLD FitzUrse, son of RICHARD FitzUrse & his wife Matilda de Boulers (-[1171/75])."
Med Lands cites: [604] Bracton’s Note Book, Vol. II, 86, p. 76.³

; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 72/73.¹

      ; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 72/73.¹ Geoffrey de Limesy was also known as Geoffrey de Limesey.²

     William de Roumare II, 2nd Earl of Lincoln married Alice (?)
; his 1st wife.^4,1 William de Roumare II, 2nd Earl of Lincoln married Philippe (?) d'Alençon, daughter of Jean I de Ponthieu Comte d'Alençon and Beatrix/Beatrice (?) d'Anjou, comtesse du Maine,
; her 1st husband.^5,1
William de Roumare II, 2nd Earl of Lincoln died circa 1198.¹
      ; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VII 671.¹

     Philippe (?) d'Alençon married William de Roumare II, 2nd Earl of Lincoln, son of William 'Hélie' de Roumare I and Agnes (?) d'Aumale,
; her 1st husband.^1,3 Philippe (?) d'Alençon married Guillaume Malet (?) de Graville
; her 2nd husband.^4,1 Philippe (?) d'Alençon married Guillaume (?) de Preaux
; her 3rd husband.^5,1
      ; van de Pas cites: 1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VII 671
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: III/4 638.¹