Sir James Baskerville Kb1
M, #51751, b. between 1470 and 1480, d. between 1545 and 1546
Last Edited | 26 Oct 2002 |
Sir James Baskerville Kb married Elizabeth Abreynton, daughter of Sir John Breynton Knt. and Sibyl Milbourne.1
Sir James Baskerville Kb was born between 1470 and 1480.1
Sir James Baskerville Kb died between 1545 and 1546.1
Sir James Baskerville Kb lived at Eardisley, Herefordshire, England.1 As of 1501, Sir James Baskerville Kb lived at an unknown place ; KB.1
Sir James Baskerville Kb was born between 1470 and 1480.1
Sir James Baskerville Kb died between 1545 and 1546.1
Sir James Baskerville Kb lived at Eardisley, Herefordshire, England.1 As of 1501, Sir James Baskerville Kb lived at an unknown place ; KB.1
Family | Elizabeth Abreynton b. s 1495 |
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Citations
- [S1409] Kenneth W. Kirkpatrick, "The "Loving Cosens:" Herbert Pelham, Sir Arthur Hesilrige, and Gov. Edward Winslow", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 613 (January 2000): p. 93. Hereinafter cited as "The "Loving Cosens" (NEHGR,Jan 2000, 154:613)."
Elizabeth Abreynton1
F, #51752, b. say 1495
Father | Sir John Breynton Knt.2 |
Mother | Sibyl Milbourne1 |
Last Edited | 26 Oct 2002 |
Elizabeth Abreynton married Sir James Baskerville Kb.1
Elizabeth Abreynton was born say 1495.1
Elizabeth Abreynton was also known as Elizabeth Breyton.1
Elizabeth Abreynton was born say 1495.1
Elizabeth Abreynton was also known as Elizabeth Breyton.1
Family | Sir James Baskerville Kb b. bt 1470 - 1480, d. bt 1545 - 1546 |
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Citations
- [S1409] Kenneth W. Kirkpatrick, "The "Loving Cosens:" Herbert Pelham, Sir Arthur Hesilrige, and Gov. Edward Winslow", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 613 (January 2000): p. 93. Hereinafter cited as "The "Loving Cosens" (NEHGR,Jan 2000, 154:613)."
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Milborne 13: p. 500. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
Sibyl Milbourne1
F, #51753
Father | Simon Milbourne Esq., of Tillington, Burgill, Herefordshire, etc.1,2 b. c 1435, d. 14 Aug 1522 |
Mother | Jane Baskerville2 |
Last Edited | 17 Jan 2009 |
Family | Sir John Breynton Knt. |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1409] Kenneth W. Kirkpatrick, "The "Loving Cosens:" Herbert Pelham, Sir Arthur Hesilrige, and Gov. Edward Winslow", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 613 (January 2000): p. 93. Hereinafter cited as "The "Loving Cosens" (NEHGR,Jan 2000, 154:613)."
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Milborne 13: p. 500. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
John Copley Esq.1
M, #51754, b. say 1480
Last Edited | 26 Oct 2002 |
John Copley Esq. married Agnes Pigot.1
John Copley Esq. was born say 1480.1
John Copley Esq. lived at Batley, Yorkshire, England.1
John Copley Esq. was born say 1480.1
John Copley Esq. lived at Batley, Yorkshire, England.1
Family | Agnes Pigot |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1409] Kenneth W. Kirkpatrick, "The "Loving Cosens:" Herbert Pelham, Sir Arthur Hesilrige, and Gov. Edward Winslow", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 613 (January 2000): p. 93. Hereinafter cited as "The "Loving Cosens" (NEHGR,Jan 2000, 154:613)."
Agnes Pigot1
F, #51755
Last Edited | 26 Oct 2002 |
Family | John Copley Esq. b. s 1480 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1409] Kenneth W. Kirkpatrick, "The "Loving Cosens:" Herbert Pelham, Sir Arthur Hesilrige, and Gov. Edward Winslow", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 613 (January 2000): p. 93. Hereinafter cited as "The "Loving Cosens" (NEHGR,Jan 2000, 154:613)."
Piers Savage1
M, #51756
Last Edited | 26 Oct 2002 |
Piers Savage lived at Hatfield, Yorkshire, England.1
Family | |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1409] Kenneth W. Kirkpatrick, "The "Loving Cosens:" Herbert Pelham, Sir Arthur Hesilrige, and Gov. Edward Winslow", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 613 (January 2000): p. 93. Hereinafter cited as "The "Loving Cosens" (NEHGR,Jan 2000, 154:613)."
William Cressy1
M, #51757, d. 1551
Last Edited | 26 Oct 2002 |
Family | Jane Hansard d. 1569 |
Child |
Citations
- [S1409] Kenneth W. Kirkpatrick, "The "Loving Cosens:" Herbert Pelham, Sir Arthur Hesilrige, and Gov. Edward Winslow", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 613 (January 2000): p. 93. Hereinafter cited as "The "Loving Cosens" (NEHGR,Jan 2000, 154:613)."
Jane Hansard1
F, #51758, d. 1569
Last Edited | 26 Oct 2002 |
Family | William Cressy d. 1551 |
Child |
Citations
- [S1409] Kenneth W. Kirkpatrick, "The "Loving Cosens:" Herbert Pelham, Sir Arthur Hesilrige, and Gov. Edward Winslow", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 613 (January 2000): p. 93. Hereinafter cited as "The "Loving Cosens" (NEHGR,Jan 2000, 154:613)."
John Portington1
M, #51759, b. circa 1480, d. 1521
Last Edited | 26 Oct 2002 |
John Portington married Mary Copley, daughter of John Copley Esq. and Agnes Pigot.1
John Portington was born circa 1480.1
John Portington died in 1521.1
John Portington lived at Barnby-super-Don, Yorkshire, England.1
John Portington was born circa 1480.1
John Portington died in 1521.1
John Portington lived at Barnby-super-Don, Yorkshire, England.1
Family | Mary Copley |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1409] Kenneth W. Kirkpatrick, "The "Loving Cosens:" Herbert Pelham, Sir Arthur Hesilrige, and Gov. Edward Winslow", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 613 (January 2000): p. 93. Hereinafter cited as "The "Loving Cosens" (NEHGR,Jan 2000, 154:613)."
Mary Copley1
F, #51760
Father | John Copley Esq.1 b. s 1480 |
Mother | Agnes Pigot1 |
Last Edited | 26 Oct 2002 |
Family | John Portington b. c 1480, d. 1521 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1409] Kenneth W. Kirkpatrick, "The "Loving Cosens:" Herbert Pelham, Sir Arthur Hesilrige, and Gov. Edward Winslow", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 613 (January 2000): p. 93. Hereinafter cited as "The "Loving Cosens" (NEHGR,Jan 2000, 154:613)."
Blanche Greville1
F, #51761
Father | Sir Fulke Greville Knt., of Beauchamps Court1 b. b 1505, d. 10 Nov 1559 |
Mother | Elizabeth Willoughby Lady Willoughby de Broke1 b. c 1511, d. 9 Nov 1562 |
Last Edited | 26 Oct 2002 |
Blanche Greville died at died unmarried.1
Citations
- [S1409] Kenneth W. Kirkpatrick, "The "Loving Cosens:" Herbert Pelham, Sir Arthur Hesilrige, and Gov. Edward Winslow", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 613 (January 2000): p. 96. Hereinafter cited as "The "Loving Cosens" (NEHGR,Jan 2000, 154:613)."
Mary Greville1
F, #51762
Father | Sir Fulke Greville Knt., of Beauchamps Court1,2 b. b 1505, d. 10 Nov 1559 |
Mother | Elizabeth Willoughby Lady Willoughby de Broke1,3 b. c 1511, d. 9 Nov 1562 |
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2008 |
Citations
- [S1409] Kenneth W. Kirkpatrick, "The "Loving Cosens:" Herbert Pelham, Sir Arthur Hesilrige, and Gov. Edward Winslow", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 613 (January 2000): p. 96. Hereinafter cited as "The "Loving Cosens" (NEHGR,Jan 2000, 154:613)."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Fulke Greville, of Beauchamps Court: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00060133&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Willoughby: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00060134&tree=LEO
William Harris Esq., of Devon1
M, #51763
Last Edited | 26 Oct 2002 |
William Harris Esq., of Devon married Mary Greville, daughter of Sir Fulke Greville Knt., of Beauchamps Court and Elizabeth Willoughby Lady Willoughby de Broke, in 1553.1
Family | Mary Greville |
Citations
- [S1409] Kenneth W. Kirkpatrick, "The "Loving Cosens:" Herbert Pelham, Sir Arthur Hesilrige, and Gov. Edward Winslow", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 613 (January 2000): p. 96. Hereinafter cited as "The "Loving Cosens" (NEHGR,Jan 2000, 154:613)."
Helen/Ellen Greville of Beauchamps Court1,2,3
F, #51764
Father | Sir Fulke Greville Knt., of Beauchamps Court1,2,4 b. b 1505, d. 10 Nov 1559 |
Mother | Elizabeth Willoughby Lady Willoughby de Broke1,5 b. c 1511, d. 9 Nov 1562 |
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2008 |
Family | Sir John Conway Knt., of Warwickshire |
Citations
- [S1409] Kenneth W. Kirkpatrick, "The "Loving Cosens:" Herbert Pelham, Sir Arthur Hesilrige, and Gov. Edward Winslow", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 613 (January 2000): p. 96. Hereinafter cited as "The "Loving Cosens" (NEHGR,Jan 2000, 154:613)."
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Conway - Barons Conway, of Ragley, co. Warwick, Viscounts Conway, of Conway Castle, co. Carnarvon, and Earl of Conway, p. 133. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Helen Greville, of Beauchamps Court: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00060117&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Fulke Greville, of Beauchamps Court: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00060133&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Willoughby: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00060134&tree=LEO
Eanric mac Maelcoluim (?) 3rd Earl of Atholl1
M, #51767, d. before January 1211
Father | Malcolm mac Madadh (?) 2nd Earl of Atholl2,3,4 b. c 1120, d. b 24 Oct 1198 |
Reference | GAV23 EDV24 |
Last Edited | 10 Jul 2020 |
Eanric mac Maelcoluim (?) 3rd Earl of Atholl married Mairead (?)2,4,5,6
Eanric mac Maelcoluim (?) 3rd Earl of Atholl died before January 1211.2,4,6
GAV-27 EDV-24.
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; This is the same person as ”Henry, Earl of Atholl” at Wikipedia.7
; Per Burke's: "HENRY, 3RD EARL OF ATHOL, who was witness to an agreement between the Bp St Andrews and the Abbot of Arbroath 24 Aug 1198. He d before 1211, having by Margaret, his wife, had issue,1. ISABELLA, who s her f, and 2. FORFLISSA (or FORUELETH), who s her nephew. His elder dau and heiress, ISABELLA, COUNTESS OF ATHOL..."2 Eanric mac Maelcoluim (?) 3rd Earl of Atholl was also known as Henry (?) 3rd Earl of Atholl.2,6
; Per Med Lands:
"HENRY (-before Jan 1211). The Liber Vitæ of Durham lists (in order) "Malcolmus filius Mal. et comes Athodlie, Hextilda filia Ucthredi uxor eius, Simon filius eius, Henricus filius eius, Dunecanus frater eius, Bedoch soror eius, Kelethaoni filius eius, Cristina soror eius, Margareta soror eius, Constantinus nepos eius…"[175]. "Malcolmus comes Atholie…sponsa mea E. comitissa" donated "ecclesiam de Molin" to Dunfermline monastery by undated charter witnessed by "…H filio meo…"[176]. "Malcolmi comitis Atholie" donated property to Cupar abbey by undated charter, witnessed by "Henrico filio comitis, Malcolmo et Dunecano fratribus eius…"[177]. "Malcolmus comes de Athoil" donated "ecclesiam de Dul" to St Andrew’s priory by undated charter witnessed by "Dunecano comite de Fif, Hextilda comitissa sponsa mea…Henrico et Dunecano filiis meis…"[178]. He succeeded his father in [1190] as Earl of Atholl. "Henricus comes de Hathodi" confirmed the donation of "ecclesiam de Dul" to St Andrew’s priory by undated charter witnessed by "Comitissa Margareta sponsa mea, Alexandro de Setona, Malisio iudice, Colino nepote meo…"[179]. Alexander II King of Scotland confirmed donations to St Andrew’s priory, including the donation of "ecclesiam de Dul" by "Malcolmi comitis de Hathoil et ex confirmacione Henrici filii sui", by undated charter, probably dated to the start of his reign[180].
"m MARGARET, daughter of --- (-after 9 Aug 1232). "Henricus comes de Hathodi" confirmed the donation of "ecclesiam de Dul" to St Andrew’s priory by undated charter witnessed by "Comitissa Margareta sponsa mea, Alexandro de Setona, Malisio iudice, Colino nepote meo…"[181]. Balfour Paul suggests that she may have been a member of the Comyn family because "Walter Comyn Earl of Menteith took an interest in her affairs after Earl Henry’s death"[182]. He also cites John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) which describes "heres de Buchan et Johannes Ruffus nepos eius" [referring to Alexander Comyn heir of Buchan and John Comyn "the Red") as "cognati comitis Atholiæ"[183]. "Walterus Cumyn comes de Menteith et Margaretta comitissa uxor comitis Henrici…" donated property to Cupar abbey by charter dated 9 Aug 1232 "coram nobis Isabell comitissa, heres legittima Atholiæ…post obitum domini sui Thomæ comitis de Galawayea"[184].
"Mistress (1): ---. The name of Henry’s mistress is not known."
Med Lands cites:
See attached map for location of Atholl in Scotland (from Wikipedia: By Benson85 at the English language Wikipedia, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=18545599) between 1190 and 1211 at Perthshire, Scotland.7,8
Eanric mac Maelcoluim (?) 3rd Earl of Atholl died before January 1211.2,4,6
GAV-27 EDV-24.
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Burke's Landed Gentry. 1926.
2. The Scots Peerage 1904-1914, nine volumes , Paul, Sir James Balfour. 418.4
2. The Scots Peerage 1904-1914, nine volumes , Paul, Sir James Balfour. 418.4
; This is the same person as ”Henry, Earl of Atholl” at Wikipedia.7
; Per Burke's: "HENRY, 3RD EARL OF ATHOL, who was witness to an agreement between the Bp St Andrews and the Abbot of Arbroath 24 Aug 1198. He d before 1211, having by Margaret, his wife, had issue,1. ISABELLA, who s her f, and 2. FORFLISSA (or FORUELETH), who s her nephew. His elder dau and heiress, ISABELLA, COUNTESS OF ATHOL..."2 Eanric mac Maelcoluim (?) 3rd Earl of Atholl was also known as Henry (?) 3rd Earl of Atholl.2,6
; Per Med Lands:
"HENRY (-before Jan 1211). The Liber Vitæ of Durham lists (in order) "Malcolmus filius Mal. et comes Athodlie, Hextilda filia Ucthredi uxor eius, Simon filius eius, Henricus filius eius, Dunecanus frater eius, Bedoch soror eius, Kelethaoni filius eius, Cristina soror eius, Margareta soror eius, Constantinus nepos eius…"[175]. "Malcolmus comes Atholie…sponsa mea E. comitissa" donated "ecclesiam de Molin" to Dunfermline monastery by undated charter witnessed by "…H filio meo…"[176]. "Malcolmi comitis Atholie" donated property to Cupar abbey by undated charter, witnessed by "Henrico filio comitis, Malcolmo et Dunecano fratribus eius…"[177]. "Malcolmus comes de Athoil" donated "ecclesiam de Dul" to St Andrew’s priory by undated charter witnessed by "Dunecano comite de Fif, Hextilda comitissa sponsa mea…Henrico et Dunecano filiis meis…"[178]. He succeeded his father in [1190] as Earl of Atholl. "Henricus comes de Hathodi" confirmed the donation of "ecclesiam de Dul" to St Andrew’s priory by undated charter witnessed by "Comitissa Margareta sponsa mea, Alexandro de Setona, Malisio iudice, Colino nepote meo…"[179]. Alexander II King of Scotland confirmed donations to St Andrew’s priory, including the donation of "ecclesiam de Dul" by "Malcolmi comitis de Hathoil et ex confirmacione Henrici filii sui", by undated charter, probably dated to the start of his reign[180].
"m MARGARET, daughter of --- (-after 9 Aug 1232). "Henricus comes de Hathodi" confirmed the donation of "ecclesiam de Dul" to St Andrew’s priory by undated charter witnessed by "Comitissa Margareta sponsa mea, Alexandro de Setona, Malisio iudice, Colino nepote meo…"[181]. Balfour Paul suggests that she may have been a member of the Comyn family because "Walter Comyn Earl of Menteith took an interest in her affairs after Earl Henry’s death"[182]. He also cites John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) which describes "heres de Buchan et Johannes Ruffus nepos eius" [referring to Alexander Comyn heir of Buchan and John Comyn "the Red") as "cognati comitis Atholiæ"[183]. "Walterus Cumyn comes de Menteith et Margaretta comitissa uxor comitis Henrici…" donated property to Cupar abbey by charter dated 9 Aug 1232 "coram nobis Isabell comitissa, heres legittima Atholiæ…post obitum domini sui Thomæ comitis de Galawayea"[184].
"Mistress (1): ---. The name of Henry’s mistress is not known."
Med Lands cites:
[176] Dunfermline, 147, p. 85.
[177] Cupar, Vol. I, Breviarum Antiqui Registri, 27, p. 331.
[178] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 245.
[179] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 246.
[180] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 232.
[181] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 246.
[182] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. I, Atholl, p. 419, citing Register of Cupar Abbey, 332, 333.
[183] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. IX, Cap. LX, p. 73.
[184] Cupar, Vol. I, Breviarum Antiqui Registri, 34, p. 333.6
He was Mormaer (Earl) of Atholl[177] Cupar, Vol. I, Breviarum Antiqui Registri, 27, p. 331.
[178] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 245.
[179] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 246.
[180] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 232.
[181] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 246.
[182] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. I, Atholl, p. 419, citing Register of Cupar Abbey, 332, 333.
[183] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. IX, Cap. LX, p. 73.
[184] Cupar, Vol. I, Breviarum Antiqui Registri, 34, p. 333.6
See attached map for location of Atholl in Scotland (from Wikipedia: By Benson85 at the English language Wikipedia, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=18545599) between 1190 and 1211 at Perthshire, Scotland.7,8
Family 1 | |
Child |
Family 2 | Mairead (?) d. a 9 Aug 1232 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eanric mac Maelcoluim: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00232026&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Kenworthy-Barons Strabolgi Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1680] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 28 Sept 2004: "Descent from Jarl Haakon Paulsson (was Re: Somerled's mother-in-law)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/ZRyso26aTUg/m/iOgq5GlKmfYJ) to e-mail address, 28 Sept 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 28 Sept 2004."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eanric mac Maelcoluim, 3rd Earl of Atholl: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00232026&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mairead: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437401&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Malcolm2Atholldied11861198. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry,_Earl_of_Atholl. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S1953] Wikipedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atholl#/media/File:Atholl_28district29-1.png
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Conan of Gleneorchie: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00232028&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Forflissa|Fernelith: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437409&tree=LEO
Mairead (?)1
F, #51768, d. after 9 August 1232
Reference | GAV27 |
Last Edited | 10 Jul 2020 |
Mairead (?) married Eanric mac Maelcoluim (?) 3rd Earl of Atholl, son of Malcolm mac Madadh (?) 2nd Earl of Atholl.2,3,4,5
Mairead (?) died after 9 August 1232.5
; Per Med Lands:
"HENRY (-before Jan 1211). The Liber Vitæ of Durham lists (in order) "Malcolmus filius Mal. et comes Athodlie, Hextilda filia Ucthredi uxor eius, Simon filius eius, Henricus filius eius, Dunecanus frater eius, Bedoch soror eius, Kelethaoni filius eius, Cristina soror eius, Margareta soror eius, Constantinus nepos eius…"[175]. "Malcolmus comes Atholie…sponsa mea E. comitissa" donated "ecclesiam de Molin" to Dunfermline monastery by undated charter witnessed by "…H filio meo…"[176]. "Malcolmi comitis Atholie" donated property to Cupar abbey by undated charter, witnessed by "Henrico filio comitis, Malcolmo et Dunecano fratribus eius…"[177]. "Malcolmus comes de Athoil" donated "ecclesiam de Dul" to St Andrew’s priory by undated charter witnessed by "Dunecano comite de Fif, Hextilda comitissa sponsa mea…Henrico et Dunecano filiis meis…"[178]. He succeeded his father in [1190] as Earl of Atholl. "Henricus comes de Hathodi" confirmed the donation of "ecclesiam de Dul" to St Andrew’s priory by undated charter witnessed by "Comitissa Margareta sponsa mea, Alexandro de Setona, Malisio iudice, Colino nepote meo…"[179]. Alexander II King of Scotland confirmed donations to St Andrew’s priory, including the donation of "ecclesiam de Dul" by "Malcolmi comitis de Hathoil et ex confirmacione Henrici filii sui", by undated charter, probably dated to the start of his reign[180].
"m MARGARET, daughter of --- (-after 9 Aug 1232). "Henricus comes de Hathodi" confirmed the donation of "ecclesiam de Dul" to St Andrew’s priory by undated charter witnessed by "Comitissa Margareta sponsa mea, Alexandro de Setona, Malisio iudice, Colino nepote meo…"[181]. Balfour Paul suggests that she may have been a member of the Comyn family because "Walter Comyn Earl of Menteith took an interest in her affairs after Earl Henry’s death"[182]. He also cites John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) which describes "heres de Buchan et Johannes Ruffus nepos eius" [referring to Alexander Comyn heir of Buchan and John Comyn "the Red") as "cognati comitis Atholiæ"[183]. "Walterus Cumyn comes de Menteith et Margaretta comitissa uxor comitis Henrici…" donated property to Cupar abbey by charter dated 9 Aug 1232 "coram nobis Isabell comitissa, heres legittima Atholiæ…post obitum domini sui Thomæ comitis de Galawayea"[184].
"Mistress (1): ---. The name of Henry’s mistress is not known."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites: The Scots Peerage 1904-1914, nine volumes , Paul, Sir James Balfour. 418.4 GAV-27. Mairead (?) was also known as Margaret (?)2,5
Mairead (?) died after 9 August 1232.5
; Per Med Lands:
"HENRY (-before Jan 1211). The Liber Vitæ of Durham lists (in order) "Malcolmus filius Mal. et comes Athodlie, Hextilda filia Ucthredi uxor eius, Simon filius eius, Henricus filius eius, Dunecanus frater eius, Bedoch soror eius, Kelethaoni filius eius, Cristina soror eius, Margareta soror eius, Constantinus nepos eius…"[175]. "Malcolmus comes Atholie…sponsa mea E. comitissa" donated "ecclesiam de Molin" to Dunfermline monastery by undated charter witnessed by "…H filio meo…"[176]. "Malcolmi comitis Atholie" donated property to Cupar abbey by undated charter, witnessed by "Henrico filio comitis, Malcolmo et Dunecano fratribus eius…"[177]. "Malcolmus comes de Athoil" donated "ecclesiam de Dul" to St Andrew’s priory by undated charter witnessed by "Dunecano comite de Fif, Hextilda comitissa sponsa mea…Henrico et Dunecano filiis meis…"[178]. He succeeded his father in [1190] as Earl of Atholl. "Henricus comes de Hathodi" confirmed the donation of "ecclesiam de Dul" to St Andrew’s priory by undated charter witnessed by "Comitissa Margareta sponsa mea, Alexandro de Setona, Malisio iudice, Colino nepote meo…"[179]. Alexander II King of Scotland confirmed donations to St Andrew’s priory, including the donation of "ecclesiam de Dul" by "Malcolmi comitis de Hathoil et ex confirmacione Henrici filii sui", by undated charter, probably dated to the start of his reign[180].
"m MARGARET, daughter of --- (-after 9 Aug 1232). "Henricus comes de Hathodi" confirmed the donation of "ecclesiam de Dul" to St Andrew’s priory by undated charter witnessed by "Comitissa Margareta sponsa mea, Alexandro de Setona, Malisio iudice, Colino nepote meo…"[181]. Balfour Paul suggests that she may have been a member of the Comyn family because "Walter Comyn Earl of Menteith took an interest in her affairs after Earl Henry’s death"[182]. He also cites John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) which describes "heres de Buchan et Johannes Ruffus nepos eius" [referring to Alexander Comyn heir of Buchan and John Comyn "the Red") as "cognati comitis Atholiæ"[183]. "Walterus Cumyn comes de Menteith et Margaretta comitissa uxor comitis Henrici…" donated property to Cupar abbey by charter dated 9 Aug 1232 "coram nobis Isabell comitissa, heres legittima Atholiæ…post obitum domini sui Thomæ comitis de Galawayea"[184].
"Mistress (1): ---. The name of Henry’s mistress is not known."
Med Lands cites:
[176] Dunfermline, 147, p. 85.
[177] Cupar, Vol. I, Breviarum Antiqui Registri, 27, p. 331.
[178] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 245.
[179] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 246.
[180] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 232.
[181] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 246.
[182] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. I, Atholl, p. 419, citing Register of Cupar Abbey, 332, 333.
[183] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. IX, Cap. LX, p. 73.
[184] Cupar, Vol. I, Breviarum Antiqui Registri, 34, p. 333.5
[177] Cupar, Vol. I, Breviarum Antiqui Registri, 27, p. 331.
[178] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 245.
[179] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 246.
[180] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 232.
[181] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 246.
[182] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. I, Atholl, p. 419, citing Register of Cupar Abbey, 332, 333.
[183] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. IX, Cap. LX, p. 73.
[184] Cupar, Vol. I, Breviarum Antiqui Registri, 34, p. 333.5
Reference: Genealogics cites: The Scots Peerage 1904-1914, nine volumes , Paul, Sir James Balfour. 418.4 GAV-27. Mairead (?) was also known as Margaret (?)2,5
Family | Eanric mac Maelcoluim (?) 3rd Earl of Atholl d. b Jan 1211 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mairead: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437401&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Kenworthy-Barons Strabolgi Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eanric mac Maelcoluim, 3rd Earl of Atholl: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00232026&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mairead: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437401&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Malcolm2Atholldied11861198. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Forflissa|Fernelith: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437409&tree=LEO
Forflissa/Fernelith (?) Countess of Atholl1,2
F, #51769
Father | Eanric mac Maelcoluim (?) 3rd Earl of Atholl1,2,3,4 d. b Jan 1211 |
Mother | Mairead (?)1,2,5,4 d. a 9 Aug 1232 |
Reference | GAV26 |
Last Edited | 10 Jul 2020 |
Forflissa/Fernelith (?) Countess of Atholl married David Hastings Earl of Athol, jure uxoris, son of John de Hastings, before 1242.1,6,2
Reference: Genealogics cites: The Scots Peerage 1904-1914, nine volumes , Paul, Sir James Balfour. 423.2
; Per Med Lands:
"FERNELITH (-before 1254[191]). Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the Chronicle of Melrose which states that "David de Hastings…in right of his wife who was aunt by the mother’s side of the murdered youth" succeeded as earl of Atholl after the death of Patrick of Galloway[192]. She succeeded her nephew in 1242 as Ctss of Atholl suo iure. The earldom of Atholl passed to her daughter on her death. "Nessi medici domini regis" donated "terra de Dunfolemthim" to Cupar abbey, for the souls of "Domini David de Hasting comitis Atholiæ et Forflisæ sponsæ suæ" who granted me the land in question, by undated charter[193].
"m (before 1242) DAVID de Hastings, son of JOHN de Hastings & his wife --- . Earl of Atholl de iure uxoris. Balfour Paul names "John of Hasting who…apparently…held the lands of Dun in Forfarshire and was a frequent witness to the charters by King William the Lion to the monks of Aberbrothoc and to those of Cupar Angus…" as father of David Hastings[194]. He was one of the guarantors of the peace with Henry III King of England in 1244[195]."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites: The Scots Peerage 1904-1914, nine volumes , Paul, Sir James Balfour. 423.2
; Per Med Lands:
"FERNELITH (-before 1254[191]). Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the Chronicle of Melrose which states that "David de Hastings…in right of his wife who was aunt by the mother’s side of the murdered youth" succeeded as earl of Atholl after the death of Patrick of Galloway[192]. She succeeded her nephew in 1242 as Ctss of Atholl suo iure. The earldom of Atholl passed to her daughter on her death. "Nessi medici domini regis" donated "terra de Dunfolemthim" to Cupar abbey, for the souls of "Domini David de Hasting comitis Atholiæ et Forflisæ sponsæ suæ" who granted me the land in question, by undated charter[193].
"m (before 1242) DAVID de Hastings, son of JOHN de Hastings & his wife --- . Earl of Atholl de iure uxoris. Balfour Paul names "John of Hasting who…apparently…held the lands of Dun in Forfarshire and was a frequent witness to the charters by King William the Lion to the monks of Aberbrothoc and to those of Cupar Angus…" as father of David Hastings[194]. He was one of the guarantors of the peace with Henry III King of England in 1244[195]."
Med Lands cites:
[191] When her son-in-law was styled Earl of Atholl in a donation with his wife, see CP I 305.
[192] Chronicle of Melrose, 1242, p. 68.
[193] Cupar, Vol. I, Breviarum Antiqui Registri, 86, p. 348.
[194] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. I, Atholl, p. 423.
[195] CP I 305.4
GAV-26.[192] Chronicle of Melrose, 1242, p. 68.
[193] Cupar, Vol. I, Breviarum Antiqui Registri, 86, p. 348.
[194] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. I, Atholl, p. 423.
[195] CP I 305.4
Family | David Hastings Earl of Athol, jure uxoris d. c 1269 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Kenworthy-Barons Strabolgi Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Forflissa|Fernelith: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437409&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eanric mac Maelcoluim, 3rd Earl of Atholl: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00232026&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Malcolm2Atholldied11861198. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mairead: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437401&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir David Hasting: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437408&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#AdaHastingsAtholl
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ada: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437413&tree=LEO
Hugues de Crécy1
M, #51770
Father | Guy II "le Rouge" de Montlhéry Comte de Rochefort-en-Yvelines1 b. c 1040, d. 1108 |
Mother | Adelaide de Crecy Dame de Gournay-sur-Marne1 d. a 1104 |
Last Edited | 2 Apr 2020 |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues de Crécy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00628153&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
Patrick Galloway 5th Earl of Athol1
M, #51771, d. 1242
Father | Thomas Galloway Earl of Atholl1 d. b 9 Aug 1232 |
Mother | Isabella (?) Countess of Atholl1 d. b 25 Sep 1237 |
Last Edited | 27 Oct 2002 |
Patrick Galloway 5th Earl of Athol died in 1242 at Haddington, England; murdered by one of the Bissets.1
He was 5th Earl of Atholl.1
He was 5th Earl of Atholl.1
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Kenworthy-Barons Strabolgi Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
David Hastings Earl of Athol, jure uxoris1,2
M, #51772, d. circa 1269
Father | John de Hastings3 |
Reference | GAV26 |
Last Edited | 18 Apr 2020 |
David Hastings Earl of Athol, jure uxoris married Forflissa/Fernelith (?) Countess of Atholl, daughter of Eanric mac Maelcoluim (?) 3rd Earl of Atholl and Mairead (?), before 1242.1,2,4
David Hastings Earl of Athol, jure uxoris died circa 1269.2
GAV-26.
Reference: Genealogics cites: The Scots Peerage 1904-1914, nine volumes , Paul, Sir James Balfour. 423.2
; Per Med Lands:
"m (before 1242) DAVID de Hastings, son of JOHN de Hastings & his wife --- . Earl of Atholl de iure uxoris. Balfour Paul names "John of Hasting who…apparently…held the lands of Dun in Forfarshire and was a frequent witness to the charters by King William the Lion to the monks of Aberbrothoc and to those of Cupar Angus…" as father of David Hastings[194]. He was one of the guarantors of the peace with Henry III King of England in 1244[195]."
Med Lands cites:
; one of the guarantors of a treaty of peace with HENRY III.1
David Hastings Earl of Athol, jure uxoris died circa 1269.2
GAV-26.
Reference: Genealogics cites: The Scots Peerage 1904-1914, nine volumes , Paul, Sir James Balfour. 423.2
; Per Med Lands:
"m (before 1242) DAVID de Hastings, son of JOHN de Hastings & his wife --- . Earl of Atholl de iure uxoris. Balfour Paul names "John of Hasting who…apparently…held the lands of Dun in Forfarshire and was a frequent witness to the charters by King William the Lion to the monks of Aberbrothoc and to those of Cupar Angus…" as father of David Hastings[194]. He was one of the guarantors of the peace with Henry III King of England in 1244[195]."
Med Lands cites:
[194] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. I, Atholl, p. 423.
[195] CP I 305.3
He was jure uxoris Earl of Athol.1 [195] CP I 305.3
; one of the guarantors of a treaty of peace with HENRY III.1
Family | Forflissa/Fernelith (?) Countess of Atholl |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Kenworthy-Barons Strabolgi Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir David Hasting: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437408&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Malcolm2Atholldied11861198. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Forflissa|Fernelith: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437409&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#AdaHastingsAtholl
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ada: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437413&tree=LEO
Matthew Bruce1
M, #51773
Last Edited | 27 Oct 2002 |
Matthew Bruce was also known as Matthew Braose.1
Family | |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Kenworthy-Barons Strabolgi Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
Ada (?) Countess of Athol1
F, #51774, b. circa 1221
Father | David Hastings Earl of Athol, jure uxoris1,5,3,4 d. c 1269 |
Mother | Forflissa/Fernelith (?) Countess of Atholl1,2,3,4 |
Reference | GAV25 EDV22 |
Last Edited | 15 Sep 2020 |
Ada (?) Countess of Athol married John (?) of Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (jure uxoris), son of David (?) of Strathbogie.1,3,4,6
Ada (?) Countess of Athol was born circa 1221.7
Ada (?) Countess of Athol died before 25 December 1266.
; Per Med Lands:
"ADA Hastings . Balfour Paul says that Ada "is said to have married John of Strathbogie, son of David of Strathbogie…third son of Duncan sixth Earl of Fife…there is no proof of this statement, but it is rendered probable by the fact that the later Earls of Atholl designed themselves as of Strathbogie, and the evidence of seals"[196]. She succeeded as Ctss of Atholl, suo iure. m JOHN of Strathbogie, son of DAVID of Fife & his wife --- (-[1260]). He succeeded as Earl of Atholl, de iure uxoris."3
Reference: Genealogics cites: The Scots Peerage 1904-1914, nine volumes , Paul, Sir James Balfour. 424.4
; Per Wikipedia:
"Ada, Countess of Atholl (c. 1221–25 December 1266), was the daughter and heir of Forbhlaith, herself heir of the highland mormaerdom of Atholl, Scotland, and David of Hastings, England.[1]
"Her marriage to John de Strathbogie (a semi-Normanized Gael descended from Donnchadh II, Mormaer of Fife) gave rise to the Strathbogie dynasty of Atholl Earls, beginning with their son David (David of Strathbogie, 8th Earl of Atholl).[2]
"She died some time before 25 December 1266.
See also
** Scotland in the High Middle Ages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_in_the_High_Middle_Ages
References
1. The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant
2. Burke's Peerage"
[See Note Per Med Lands].7 GAV-25 EDV-22.
; Per Burke's: "ADA, COUNTESS OF ATHOL; m John of Strathbogie or Strabolgi, jure uxoris Earl of Athol, s of David of Strathbogie, to whom his f, Duncan, Earl of Fife, the Justiciar, who d 1204, granted the lands of Strathbogie, one of the five districts of Co Aberdeen. The Earl and Countess confirmed in 1254, a donation made by her f to the monks of Cupar. She d before Christmas 1266, and was succeeded by her son"
[See Note Per Med Lands].1
Ada (?) Countess of Athol was born circa 1221.7
Ada (?) Countess of Athol died before 25 December 1266.
; Per Med Lands:
"ADA Hastings . Balfour Paul says that Ada "is said to have married John of Strathbogie, son of David of Strathbogie…third son of Duncan sixth Earl of Fife…there is no proof of this statement, but it is rendered probable by the fact that the later Earls of Atholl designed themselves as of Strathbogie, and the evidence of seals"[196]. She succeeded as Ctss of Atholl, suo iure. m JOHN of Strathbogie, son of DAVID of Fife & his wife --- (-[1260]). He succeeded as Earl of Atholl, de iure uxoris."3
Reference: Genealogics cites: The Scots Peerage 1904-1914, nine volumes , Paul, Sir James Balfour. 424.4
; Per Wikipedia:
"Ada, Countess of Atholl (c. 1221–25 December 1266), was the daughter and heir of Forbhlaith, herself heir of the highland mormaerdom of Atholl, Scotland, and David of Hastings, England.[1]
"Her marriage to John de Strathbogie (a semi-Normanized Gael descended from Donnchadh II, Mormaer of Fife) gave rise to the Strathbogie dynasty of Atholl Earls, beginning with their son David (David of Strathbogie, 8th Earl of Atholl).[2]
"She died some time before 25 December 1266.
See also
** Scotland in the High Middle Ages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_in_the_High_Middle_Ages
References
1. The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant
2. Burke's Peerage"
[See Note Per Med Lands].7 GAV-25 EDV-22.
; Per Burke's: "ADA, COUNTESS OF ATHOL; m John of Strathbogie or Strabolgi, jure uxoris Earl of Athol, s of David of Strathbogie, to whom his f, Duncan, Earl of Fife, the Justiciar, who d 1204, granted the lands of Strathbogie, one of the five districts of Co Aberdeen. The Earl and Countess confirmed in 1254, a donation made by her f to the monks of Cupar. She d before Christmas 1266, and was succeeded by her son"
[See Note Per Med Lands].1
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Kenworthy-Barons Strabolgi Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Forflissa|Fernelith: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437409&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#AdaHastingsAtholl. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ada: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437413&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir David Hasting: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437408&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John of Strathbogie: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437412&tree=LEO
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada,_Countess_of_Atholl. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), p. 49. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, David of Strathbogie: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437414&tree=LEO
- [S4794] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families (5 Volumes) (Salt Lake City, UT: Self Published, 2013), Vol. I, pp. 187-88. Hereinafter cited as Richardson [2013] Royal Ancestry Series (5 Vols).
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#DavidStrathbogieAtholldied1270
John (?) of Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (jure uxoris)1
M, #51775
Father | David (?) of Strathbogie1,2 |
Reference | GAV25 |
Last Edited | 15 Sep 2020 |
John (?) of Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (jure uxoris) married Ada (?) Countess of Athol, daughter of David Hastings Earl of Athol, jure uxoris and Forflissa/Fernelith (?) Countess of Atholl.1,3,4,2
Reference: Genealogics cites: The Scots Peerage 1904-1914, nine volumes , Paul, Sir James Balfour. 424.2
; Per Med Lands:
"JOHN of Strathbogie, son of DAVID of Fife & his wife --- (-[1260]). He succeeded as Earl of Atholl, de iure uxoris.
"m ADA Hastings Ctss of Atholl, daughter of DAVID Hastings Earl of Atholl & his wife Fernelith Ctss of Atholl. Balfour Paul says that Ada "is said to have married John of Strathbogie, son of David of Strathbogie…third son of Duncan sixth Earl of Fife…there is no proof of this statement, but it is rendered probable by the fact that the later Earls of Atholl designed themselves as of Strathbogie, and the evidence of seals"[215]."
Med Lands cites: [215] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. I, Atholl, p. 424.5 GAV-25. John (?) of Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (jure uxoris) was jure uxoris Earl of Athol.1
Reference: Genealogics cites: The Scots Peerage 1904-1914, nine volumes , Paul, Sir James Balfour. 424.2
; Per Med Lands:
"JOHN of Strathbogie, son of DAVID of Fife & his wife --- (-[1260]). He succeeded as Earl of Atholl, de iure uxoris.
"m ADA Hastings Ctss of Atholl, daughter of DAVID Hastings Earl of Atholl & his wife Fernelith Ctss of Atholl. Balfour Paul says that Ada "is said to have married John of Strathbogie, son of David of Strathbogie…third son of Duncan sixth Earl of Fife…there is no proof of this statement, but it is rendered probable by the fact that the later Earls of Atholl designed themselves as of Strathbogie, and the evidence of seals"[215]."
Med Lands cites: [215] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. I, Atholl, p. 424.5 GAV-25. John (?) of Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (jure uxoris) was jure uxoris Earl of Athol.1
Family | Ada (?) Countess of Athol b. c 1221 |
Child |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Kenworthy-Barons Strabolgi Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John of Strathbogie: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437412&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#AdaHastingsAtholl. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ada: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437413&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#JohnStrathbogieAtholldied1260B
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, David of Strathbogie: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437414&tree=LEO
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), p. 49. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
- [S4794] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families (5 Volumes) (Salt Lake City, UT: Self Published, 2013), Vol. I, pp. 187-88. Hereinafter cited as Richardson [2013] Royal Ancestry Series (5 Vols).
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#DavidStrathbogieAtholldied1270
David (?) of Strathbogie1
M, #51776
Father | Duncan II Macduff Earl of Fife1,2,3 b. 1154, d. 17 Jun 1203 |
Mother | Ada/Ela (?)4 |
Reference | GAV26 |
Last Edited | 31 Mar 2020 |
GAV-26. David (?) of Strathbogie was also known as David (?) of Fife.5
Family | |
Child |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Kenworthy-Barons Strabolgi Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1409] Kenneth W. Kirkpatrick, "The "Loving Cosens:" Herbert Pelham, Sir Arthur Hesilrige, and Gov. Edward Winslow", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 613 (January 2000): Duncan Macduff, Earl of Fife: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00342035&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as "The "Loving Cosens" (NEHGR,Jan 2000, 154:613)."
- [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York, NY: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), p. 448 (Chart 28). Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ada|Ela: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00342036&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#JohnStrathbogieAtholldied1260B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John of Strathbogie: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437412&tree=LEO
David de Strathbogie 8th Earl of Atholl1,2
M, #51777, d. 6 August 1270
Father | John (?) of Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (jure uxoris)3,5,4,7,1,2 |
Mother | Ada (?) Countess of Athol3,4,5,6,1,2 b. c 1221 |
Reference | GAV24 |
Last Edited | 16 Sep 2020 |
David de Strathbogie 8th Earl of Atholl married Helen (?)
;
His 1st wife.3,8,2,9 David de Strathbogie 8th Earl of Atholl married Isabel/Isabella de Chilham Dame de Chilham, daughter of Richard de Chilham Lord of Chilham and Matilda/Maud (?) Countess of Angus, before June 1266
;
Her 1st husband; his 2nd wife.3,10,11,12,4,1,8,2,13,14,15
David de Strathbogie 8th Earl of Atholl died on 6 August 1270 at Carthage, Tunisia; died of the plague while on the 7th Crusade.3,16,8,1,2
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"DAVID of Strathbogie (-Carthage 6 Aug 1270, bur Scotland). He succeeded his father in [1260] as Earl of Atholl. The Liber Pluscardensis records that "Alexander David comitem Atholiæ" was knighted "die natalis Domini" in 1264[216]. "David de Strathbolgy comes Atholiæ" confirmed the donation of "terra de Dunfolemthim" to Cupar abbey made by "Nessus medicus domini regis" [see above], for the souls of "Domini David de Hastings quondam comitis Atholiæ et Forflissæ comitissæ suæ et Elenæ quondam sponsæ nostræ", by undated charter witnessed by "…Domino Alano Hostiario…Domino Thoma Hostiario…"[217]. He took part in the Seventh Crusade with Louis IX King of France, during the course of which he died[218]. The Liber Pluscardensis records the death, dated to [1267] from the context, "apud Cortage" of "David comes Atholiæ"[219]. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the death "VIII Id Aug, in Carthagine" in 1270 of "David comes de Atholia", adding in a later passage that his bones were returned to Scotland[220].
"m firstly HELEN, daughter of ---. "David de Strathbolgy comes Atholiæ" confirmed the donation of "terra de Dunfolemthim" to Cupar abbey made by "Nessus medicus domini regis" [see above], for the souls of "Domini David de Hastings quondam comitis Atholiæ et Forflissæ comitissæ suæ et Elenæ quondam sponsæ nostræ", by undated charter witnessed by "…Domino Alano Hostiario…Domino Thoma Hostiario…"[221].
"m secondly ISABEL of Chilham, daughter of RICHARD Lord of Chilham & his wife Matilda Ctss of Angus (after 1245-18 Mar 1292). She was heiress of her brother at Chilham. She married secondly (after 7 Nov 1270) Alexander Balliol of Cavers, co Roxburgh. "Alexander de Balliol and Isabella his wife…going to Scotland" appointed attorneys for their affairs in England[222]. Leland quotes a manuscript which records the death "XV Kal Apr…apud Chilham" in 1292 of "Domina Isabella de Dovora comitissa de Assele" and her burial "Cantuar: in ecclesia Christi"[223]. A charter dated 1 May 1292 ordered the valuation of the assets of "the late Isabella countess of Athol to her husband Alexander de Balliol"[224]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Burke's: "DAVID OF STRABOLGI, 8TH EARL OF ATHOL, who was Knighted by ALEXANDER III, 1264, Ld of the Manor of Chilham, Kent. By Helen, his first wife, he had no issue. He m 2nd, before June, 1266, Isabel (who m 2nd, before 7 Nov 1270, Alexander de Balliol of Cavers, and d 18 March 1292), dau of Richard of Dover (by Maud, his wife, suo jure Countess of Angus), s of Richard Fitzroy (by Roesia, his wife, dau and heiress of Robert of Dover), natural s of KING JOHN, and by this marriage acquired the Manor of Chilham, Co Kent. He joined the seventh Crusade, under Louis IX of France, and d of the plague at Carthage 6 Aug 1270, having by her had issue, a son and heir.“.3
; Per Med Lands:
"ISABEL of Chilham (after 1245-18 Mar 1292). The primary source which confirms her parentage and two marriages has not yet been identified. She was heiress of her brother at Chilham. "Alexander de Balliol and Isabella his wife…going to Scotland" appointed attorneys for their affairs in England[639]. Leland quotes a manuscript which records the death "XV Kal Apr…apud Chilham" in 1292 of "Domina Isabella de Dovora comitissa de Assele" and her burial "Cantuar: in ecclesia Christi"[640]. A charter dated 1 May 1292 ordered the valuation of the assets of "the late Isabella countess of Athol to her husband Alexander de Balliol"[641].
"m firstly (before 1265) as his second wife, DAVID of Strathbogie Earl of Atholl, son of JOHN of Strathbogie Earl of Atholl & his wife Ada Hastings Ctss of Atholl (-Carthage 6 Aug 1270). He died while on Crusade in Tunisia.
"m secondly (shortly after 7 Nov 1270) ALEXANDER Balliol of Cavers, co Roxburgh, son of HENRY Balliol & his wife Lora [Lauretta] de Valoignes (-[19 Apr 1310/Jun 1311]). Lord of Chilham, by right of his wife."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Anjou 3): “D2. Isabel, *after 1245, +by 1.5.1292; 1m: David de Strabolgi, Earl of Athol (*ca 1240 +1270); 2m: Alexander de Baliol”.11 He was Earl of Atholl between 1264 and 1269.17
;
His 1st wife.3,8,2,9 David de Strathbogie 8th Earl of Atholl married Isabel/Isabella de Chilham Dame de Chilham, daughter of Richard de Chilham Lord of Chilham and Matilda/Maud (?) Countess of Angus, before June 1266
;
Her 1st husband; his 2nd wife.3,10,11,12,4,1,8,2,13,14,15
David de Strathbogie 8th Earl of Atholl died on 6 August 1270 at Carthage, Tunisia; died of the plague while on the 7th Crusade.3,16,8,1,2
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Scots Peerage 1904-1914, nine volumes , Paul, Sir James Balfour, Reference: 425.
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden.8
GAV-24. David de Strathbogie 8th Earl of Atholl lived at an unknown place ; This is the same person as ”David I Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl” at Wikipedia.17 David de Strathbogie 8th Earl of Atholl was also known as David of Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl.4,5 David de Strathbogie 8th Earl of Atholl was also known as David of Strathbogie, 8th Earl of Atholl.3,1 2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden.8
; Per Med Lands:
"DAVID of Strathbogie (-Carthage 6 Aug 1270, bur Scotland). He succeeded his father in [1260] as Earl of Atholl. The Liber Pluscardensis records that "Alexander David comitem Atholiæ" was knighted "die natalis Domini" in 1264[216]. "David de Strathbolgy comes Atholiæ" confirmed the donation of "terra de Dunfolemthim" to Cupar abbey made by "Nessus medicus domini regis" [see above], for the souls of "Domini David de Hastings quondam comitis Atholiæ et Forflissæ comitissæ suæ et Elenæ quondam sponsæ nostræ", by undated charter witnessed by "…Domino Alano Hostiario…Domino Thoma Hostiario…"[217]. He took part in the Seventh Crusade with Louis IX King of France, during the course of which he died[218]. The Liber Pluscardensis records the death, dated to [1267] from the context, "apud Cortage" of "David comes Atholiæ"[219]. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the death "VIII Id Aug, in Carthagine" in 1270 of "David comes de Atholia", adding in a later passage that his bones were returned to Scotland[220].
"m firstly HELEN, daughter of ---. "David de Strathbolgy comes Atholiæ" confirmed the donation of "terra de Dunfolemthim" to Cupar abbey made by "Nessus medicus domini regis" [see above], for the souls of "Domini David de Hastings quondam comitis Atholiæ et Forflissæ comitissæ suæ et Elenæ quondam sponsæ nostræ", by undated charter witnessed by "…Domino Alano Hostiario…Domino Thoma Hostiario…"[221].
"m secondly ISABEL of Chilham, daughter of RICHARD Lord of Chilham & his wife Matilda Ctss of Angus (after 1245-18 Mar 1292). She was heiress of her brother at Chilham. She married secondly (after 7 Nov 1270) Alexander Balliol of Cavers, co Roxburgh. "Alexander de Balliol and Isabella his wife…going to Scotland" appointed attorneys for their affairs in England[222]. Leland quotes a manuscript which records the death "XV Kal Apr…apud Chilham" in 1292 of "Domina Isabella de Dovora comitissa de Assele" and her burial "Cantuar: in ecclesia Christi"[223]. A charter dated 1 May 1292 ordered the valuation of the assets of "the late Isabella countess of Athol to her husband Alexander de Balliol"[224]."
Med Lands cites:
[216] Skene, F. J. H. (ed.) (1877) Liber Pluscardensis, Historians of Scotland Vol. VII (Edinburgh), Vol. I, Liber VII, CXXV, p. 100.
[217] Cupar, Vol. I, Breviarum Antiqui Registri, 87, p. 348.
[218] CP I 305.
[219] Liber Pluscardensis, Vol. I, Liber VII, CXXVII, p. 104.
[220] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. X, Cap. XXVI-XXVII, pp. 111-2.
[221] Cupar, Vol. I, Breviarum Antiqui Registri, 87, p. 348.
[222] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 192, p. 60.
[223] Toulmin Smith, L. (ed.) (1910) The Itinerary of John Leland in or about the years 1535-1543 (London) ("Leland’s Itinerary"), Vol. V, Part XI, p. 210, Ex annalibus, autore incerto.
[224] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 591, p. 140.2
[217] Cupar, Vol. I, Breviarum Antiqui Registri, 87, p. 348.
[218] CP I 305.
[219] Liber Pluscardensis, Vol. I, Liber VII, CXXVII, p. 104.
[220] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. X, Cap. XXVI-XXVII, pp. 111-2.
[221] Cupar, Vol. I, Breviarum Antiqui Registri, 87, p. 348.
[222] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 192, p. 60.
[223] Toulmin Smith, L. (ed.) (1910) The Itinerary of John Leland in or about the years 1535-1543 (London) ("Leland’s Itinerary"), Vol. V, Part XI, p. 210, Ex annalibus, autore incerto.
[224] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 591, p. 140.2
; Per Burke's: "DAVID OF STRABOLGI, 8TH EARL OF ATHOL, who was Knighted by ALEXANDER III, 1264, Ld of the Manor of Chilham, Kent. By Helen, his first wife, he had no issue. He m 2nd, before June, 1266, Isabel (who m 2nd, before 7 Nov 1270, Alexander de Balliol of Cavers, and d 18 March 1292), dau of Richard of Dover (by Maud, his wife, suo jure Countess of Angus), s of Richard Fitzroy (by Roesia, his wife, dau and heiress of Robert of Dover), natural s of KING JOHN, and by this marriage acquired the Manor of Chilham, Co Kent. He joined the seventh Crusade, under Louis IX of France, and d of the plague at Carthage 6 Aug 1270, having by her had issue, a son and heir.“.3
; Per Med Lands:
"ISABEL of Chilham (after 1245-18 Mar 1292). The primary source which confirms her parentage and two marriages has not yet been identified. She was heiress of her brother at Chilham. "Alexander de Balliol and Isabella his wife…going to Scotland" appointed attorneys for their affairs in England[639]. Leland quotes a manuscript which records the death "XV Kal Apr…apud Chilham" in 1292 of "Domina Isabella de Dovora comitissa de Assele" and her burial "Cantuar: in ecclesia Christi"[640]. A charter dated 1 May 1292 ordered the valuation of the assets of "the late Isabella countess of Athol to her husband Alexander de Balliol"[641].
"m firstly (before 1265) as his second wife, DAVID of Strathbogie Earl of Atholl, son of JOHN of Strathbogie Earl of Atholl & his wife Ada Hastings Ctss of Atholl (-Carthage 6 Aug 1270). He died while on Crusade in Tunisia.
"m secondly (shortly after 7 Nov 1270) ALEXANDER Balliol of Cavers, co Roxburgh, son of HENRY Balliol & his wife Lora [Lauretta] de Valoignes (-[19 Apr 1310/Jun 1311]). Lord of Chilham, by right of his wife."
Med Lands cites:
[639] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 192, p. 60.
[640] Leland’s Itinerary, Vol. V, Part XI, p. 210, Ex annalibus, autore incerto.
[641] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 591, p. 140.15
[640] Leland’s Itinerary, Vol. V, Part XI, p. 210, Ex annalibus, autore incerto.
[641] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 591, p. 140.15
; Per Genealogy.EU (Anjou 3): “D2. Isabel, *after 1245, +by 1.5.1292; 1m: David de Strabolgi, Earl of Athol (*ca 1240 +1270); 2m: Alexander de Baliol”.11 He was Earl of Atholl between 1264 and 1269.17
Family 1 | Helen (?) |
Family 2 | Isabel/Isabella de Chilham Dame de Chilham b. a 1245, d. bt 18 Mar 1291 - 1292 |
Child |
Citations
- [S4794] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families (5 Volumes) (Salt Lake City, UT: Self Published, 2013), Vol. I, pp. 187-88. Hereinafter cited as Richardson [2013] Royal Ancestry Series (5 Vols).
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#DavidStrathbogieAtholldied1270. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Kenworthy-Barons Strabolgi Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), p. 49. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, David of Strathbogie: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437414&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ada: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437413&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John of Strathbogie: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437412&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, David of Strathbogie: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437414&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Helen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437415&tree=LEO
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Extinct Peerages, p. 22. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Anjou 3 page (The House of Anjou): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/anjou/anjou3.html
- [S1784] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 29 July 2005 "Re: Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/F9_d7JZUuk0/m/5jgR9n064yQJ) to e-mail address, 29 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 29 July 2005."
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille de Baliol (Bailleul-en-Vimeu) (alias Balliol), p. 9: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Baliol.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabella de Chilham: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437416&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20Kings%201066-1603.htm#IsabelChilhamdied1292.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, p. 50.
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_I_Strathbogie,_Earl_of_Atholl. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
Richard de Chilham Lord of Chilham1,2,3,4,5,6
M, #51778, d. before 1261
Father | Sir Richard Fitz Roy Knt., Lord of Chilham1,3,7,4,8,5,6 b. c 1186, d. b 24 Jun 1246 |
Mother | Rohese de Douvres of Dover1,3,7,4,9,5,6 b. c 1203, d. b 11 Feb 1261 |
Reference | GAV25 EDV22 |
Last Edited | 21 Dec 2020 |
Richard de Chilham Lord of Chilham married Matilda/Maud (?) Countess of Angus, daughter of Malcolm (?) Earl of Angus and Mary Berkeley, before 2 December 1247
;
Her 3rd husband.1,3,7,4,10,11,5,6
Richard de Chilham Lord of Chilham died before 1261; Genealogics says d. bef. 1262; Med Lands says aft 2 Dec 1247.7,5,6
; Per Med Lands:
"MATILDA of Angus . She succeeded her father as Ctss of Angus, suo iure. The Complete Peerage records her first marriage without citing the corresponding primary source[52], although it is implied from the Chronicle of Melrose which records the death in 1242 of "John Cumin earl of Angus…in France"[53]. The Chronicle of Melrose records that "the lord Gillebert de Humframville took the countess of Angus to wife" in 1243[54]. A writ dated 31 Mar "29 Hen III", after the death of "Gilbert de Umfranvill alias de Umframvill" assigned dower to "Maud late the wife of the said Gilbert"[55]. "Matildis comitissa de Anego…in…viduitatis mee" confirmed its churches to Aberbrothoc by undated charter witnessed by "dno Gilb de Haya, dno Johe de Haya, dno Willmo de Haya, dno Nigello de Mubray, dno Willmo Juuene de Haya…"[56]. "Matild comitissa de Anego" confirmed donations of "terre in territorio Kerimor" to Aberbrothoc, made by "Gillecrist…comes de Anego abavus meus…Gillecrist proavus meus…Malcolmo pater meus", by undated charter witnessed by "Dno G. de Haya, Dno Johe de Haya, Dno W. de Haya…Dno W. iuvene de Haya, Dno Malcolmo de Haya…"[57]. Her third marriage is confirmed by letters close dated 2 Dec 1247 under which Henry III King of England granted four bucks from Eleham Park to "the countess of Angus, the wife of Richard of Dover"[58].
"m firstly JOHN Comyn, son of --- (-killed in battle in France 1242). He succeeded as Earl of Angus, de iure uxoris.
"m secondly (1243) GILBERT de Umfraville, Lord of Prudhoe and Redesdale, co. Northumberland, son of RICHARD de Umfraville & his wife --- (-before 31 Mar 1245). He succeeded as Earl of Angus, de iure uxoris.
"m thirdly (before 2 Dec 1247) RICHARD Lord of Chilham, son of RICHARD FitzRoy & his wife Rohese [Rose] of Dover."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"RICHARD of Chilham (-after 2 Dec 1247). Matthew Paris records the deaths of "Ricardi filii Rogeri de Chilham, Ricardi de Dover filii eius" among those who died in 1245[636]. Lord of Chilham.
"m (before 2 Dec 1247) as her third husband, MATILDA Ctss of Angus, widow firstly of JOHN Comyn Earl of Angus, secondly of GILBERT de Umfreville Earl of Angus, daughter and heiress of MALCOLM Earl of Angus & his wife Mary Berkeley. Her third marriage is confirmed by letters close dated 2 Dec 1247 under which Henry III King of England granted four bucks from Eleham Park to "the countess of Angus, the wife of Richard of Dover"[637]."
Med Lands cites:
;
Her 3rd husband.1,3,7,4,10,11,5,6
Richard de Chilham Lord of Chilham died before 1261; Genealogics says d. bef. 1262; Med Lands says aft 2 Dec 1247.7,5,6
; Per Med Lands:
"MATILDA of Angus . She succeeded her father as Ctss of Angus, suo iure. The Complete Peerage records her first marriage without citing the corresponding primary source[52], although it is implied from the Chronicle of Melrose which records the death in 1242 of "John Cumin earl of Angus…in France"[53]. The Chronicle of Melrose records that "the lord Gillebert de Humframville took the countess of Angus to wife" in 1243[54]. A writ dated 31 Mar "29 Hen III", after the death of "Gilbert de Umfranvill alias de Umframvill" assigned dower to "Maud late the wife of the said Gilbert"[55]. "Matildis comitissa de Anego…in…viduitatis mee" confirmed its churches to Aberbrothoc by undated charter witnessed by "dno Gilb de Haya, dno Johe de Haya, dno Willmo de Haya, dno Nigello de Mubray, dno Willmo Juuene de Haya…"[56]. "Matild comitissa de Anego" confirmed donations of "terre in territorio Kerimor" to Aberbrothoc, made by "Gillecrist…comes de Anego abavus meus…Gillecrist proavus meus…Malcolmo pater meus", by undated charter witnessed by "Dno G. de Haya, Dno Johe de Haya, Dno W. de Haya…Dno W. iuvene de Haya, Dno Malcolmo de Haya…"[57]. Her third marriage is confirmed by letters close dated 2 Dec 1247 under which Henry III King of England granted four bucks from Eleham Park to "the countess of Angus, the wife of Richard of Dover"[58].
"m firstly JOHN Comyn, son of --- (-killed in battle in France 1242). He succeeded as Earl of Angus, de iure uxoris.
"m secondly (1243) GILBERT de Umfraville, Lord of Prudhoe and Redesdale, co. Northumberland, son of RICHARD de Umfraville & his wife --- (-before 31 Mar 1245). He succeeded as Earl of Angus, de iure uxoris.
"m thirdly (before 2 Dec 1247) RICHARD Lord of Chilham, son of RICHARD FitzRoy & his wife Rohese [Rose] of Dover."
Med Lands cites:
[52] CP I 146.
[53] Stevenson, J. (trans.) (1991) A Medieval Chronicle of Scotland: The Chronicle of Melrose (Llanerch Press) ("Chronicle of Melrose"), 1243, p. 68.
[54] Chronicle of Melrose, 1243, p. 68.
[55] Maxwell Lyte, H. C. (ed.) (1904) Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, Vol. I, Henry III (London), 49, p. 12.
[56] Aberbrothoc, 49, p. 34.
[57] Aberbrothoc, 114, p. 81.
[58] Turner, G. J. ‘Richard Fitzroy’, Forsyth Harwood, H. W. (ed.) (1906) The Genealogist (New Series), Vol. XXII (London), p. 109, citing Close Roll, No. 60, 31 Henry III, m. 11.11
GAV-25 EDV-22. [53] Stevenson, J. (trans.) (1991) A Medieval Chronicle of Scotland: The Chronicle of Melrose (Llanerch Press) ("Chronicle of Melrose"), 1243, p. 68.
[54] Chronicle of Melrose, 1243, p. 68.
[55] Maxwell Lyte, H. C. (ed.) (1904) Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, Vol. I, Henry III (London), 49, p. 12.
[56] Aberbrothoc, 49, p. 34.
[57] Aberbrothoc, 114, p. 81.
[58] Turner, G. J. ‘Richard Fitzroy’, Forsyth Harwood, H. W. (ed.) (1906) The Genealogist (New Series), Vol. XXII (London), p. 109, citing Close Roll, No. 60, 31 Henry III, m. 11.11
; Per Med Lands:
"RICHARD of Chilham (-after 2 Dec 1247). Matthew Paris records the deaths of "Ricardi filii Rogeri de Chilham, Ricardi de Dover filii eius" among those who died in 1245[636]. Lord of Chilham.
"m (before 2 Dec 1247) as her third husband, MATILDA Ctss of Angus, widow firstly of JOHN Comyn Earl of Angus, secondly of GILBERT de Umfreville Earl of Angus, daughter and heiress of MALCOLM Earl of Angus & his wife Mary Berkeley. Her third marriage is confirmed by letters close dated 2 Dec 1247 under which Henry III King of England granted four bucks from Eleham Park to "the countess of Angus, the wife of Richard of Dover"[637]."
Med Lands cites:
[636] Matthew Paris, Vol. IV, 1245, p. 492.
[637] Turner ‘Richard Fitzroy’, p. 109, citing Close Roll, No. 60, 31 Henry III, m. 11.6
Richard de Chilham Lord of Chilham was also known as Richard de Dover of Chilham, Kent.7[637] Turner ‘Richard Fitzroy’, p. 109, citing Close Roll, No. 60, 31 Henry III, m. 11.6
Family | Matilda/Maud (?) Countess of Angus b. c 1222, d. 1261 |
Children |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Kenworthy-Barons Strabolgi Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Extinct Peerages, p. 22. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Anjou 3 page (The House of Anjou): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/anjou/anjou3.html
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), p. 49. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richard de Chilham: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437352&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20Kings%201066-1603.htm#RichardChilhamMMaudAngus. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1784] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 29 July 2005 "Re: Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/F9_d7JZUuk0/m/5jgR9n064yQJ) to e-mail address, 29 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 29 July 2005."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richard Fitzroy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199053&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rohese de Dover: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199054&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20UNTITLED.htm#JohnComynAngusdied1242
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#MaudAngusM3
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille de Baliol (Bailleul-en-Vimeu) (alias Balliol), p. 9: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Baliol.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabella de Chilham: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437416&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20Kings%201066-1603.htm#IsabelChilhamdied1292.
Elizabeth de Cromwell1,2,3,4
F, #51779, d. 24 September 1391
Father | Sir Ralph (VI) de Cromwell Knt., 1st Lord Cromwell, of Tattershall, Lincoln1,2,4,5,6 d. 27 Aug 1398 |
Mother | Lady Maude Bernacke1,2,4,7,6 b. c 1337, d. 10 Apr 1419 |
Last Edited | 11 Jan 2009 |
Elizabeth de Cromwell married Sir John de Clifton Knt., of Buckenham, Norfolk, son of Constantine de Clifton of Buckenham, Norfolk and Katherine de la Pole,
; her 1st husband.1,2,8,4,3 Elizabeth de Cromwell married Sir Edward Benstead after 1388
; her 2nd husband.1,2,3
Elizabeth de Cromwell died on 24 September 1391.4,3
; Elizabeth; m 1st Sir John Clifton and with him was ancestor of the KNEVITTs of Buckenham; m 2nd Sir Edward Benstead.1 Elizabeth de Cromwell was also known as Elizabeth Cromwell.4
; her 1st husband.1,2,8,4,3 Elizabeth de Cromwell married Sir Edward Benstead after 1388
; her 2nd husband.1,2,3
Elizabeth de Cromwell died on 24 September 1391.4,3
; Elizabeth; m 1st Sir John Clifton and with him was ancestor of the KNEVITTs of Buckenham; m 2nd Sir Edward Benstead.1 Elizabeth de Cromwell was also known as Elizabeth Cromwell.4
Family 1 | Sir John de Clifton Knt., of Buckenham, Norfolk b. c 1353, d. 10 Aug 1388 |
Child |
|
Family 2 | Sir Edward Benstead |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Cromwell Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Cromwell - Barons Cromwell of Tatshall, co. Lincoln, pp. 147-8. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Marmion 10: p. 495. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Cromwell: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199679&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Ralph Cromwell: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00333613&tree=LEO
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Marmion 9: p. 494.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud Bernake: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00333614&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John de Clifton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00517082&tree=LEO
- [S1783] Gordon Banks, "Banks email 2 May 2005 "Re: Descendants of Aline de Gay, wife of Sir Alan Basset"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 2 May 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Banks email 2 May 2005."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Constantine de Clifton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00517083&tree=LEO
Isabel/Isabella de Chilham Dame de Chilham1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
F, #51780, b. after 1245, d. between 18 March 1291 and 1292
Father | Richard de Chilham Lord of Chilham1,2,3,4,11,6,8,12,10 d. b 1261 |
Mother | Matilda/Maud (?) Countess of Angus1,3,4,6,8,9,10 b. c 1222, d. 1261 |
Reference | GAV24 EDV21 |
Last Edited | 21 Dec 2020 |
Isabel/Isabella de Chilham Dame de Chilham was born after 1245.3,8 She married David de Strathbogie 8th Earl of Atholl, son of John (?) of Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (jure uxoris) and Ada (?) Countess of Athol, before June 1266
;
Her 1st husband; his 2nd wife.1,2,13,4,14,15,16,17,11,6,8 Isabel/Isabella de Chilham Dame de Chilham married Sir Alexander de Baliol Knt., Laird of Cavers, Lord of the Manor of Chilham, son of Sir Henry de Baliol of Cavers, Chamberlain of Scotland, baron de Valognes, Lord of Panmure and Lady Lora/Lauretta de Valoins, after 7 November 1270
;
Her 2nd husband.1,2,3,4,18,19,20,11,6,8
Isabel/Isabella de Chilham Dame de Chilham died between 18 March 1291 and 1292.1,4,6,8
; Per Med Lands:
"DAVID of Strathbogie (-Carthage 6 Aug 1270, bur Scotland). He succeeded his father in [1260] as Earl of Atholl. The Liber Pluscardensis records that "Alexander David comitem Atholiæ" was knighted "die natalis Domini" in 1264[216]. "David de Strathbolgy comes Atholiæ" confirmed the donation of "terra de Dunfolemthim" to Cupar abbey made by "Nessus medicus domini regis" [see above], for the souls of "Domini David de Hastings quondam comitis Atholiæ et Forflissæ comitissæ suæ et Elenæ quondam sponsæ nostræ", by undated charter witnessed by "…Domino Alano Hostiario…Domino Thoma Hostiario…"[217]. He took part in the Seventh Crusade with Louis IX King of France, during the course of which he died[218]. The Liber Pluscardensis records the death, dated to [1267] from the context, "apud Cortage" of "David comes Atholiæ"[219]. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the death "VIII Id Aug, in Carthagine" in 1270 of "David comes de Atholia", adding in a later passage that his bones were returned to Scotland[220].
"m firstly HELEN, daughter of ---. "David de Strathbolgy comes Atholiæ" confirmed the donation of "terra de Dunfolemthim" to Cupar abbey made by "Nessus medicus domini regis" [see above], for the souls of "Domini David de Hastings quondam comitis Atholiæ et Forflissæ comitissæ suæ et Elenæ quondam sponsæ nostræ", by undated charter witnessed by "…Domino Alano Hostiario…Domino Thoma Hostiario…"[221].
"m secondly ISABEL of Chilham, daughter of RICHARD Lord of Chilham & his wife Matilda Ctss of Angus (after 1245-18 Mar 1292). She was heiress of her brother at Chilham. She married secondly (after 7 Nov 1270) Alexander Balliol of Cavers, co Roxburgh. "Alexander de Balliol and Isabella his wife…going to Scotland" appointed attorneys for their affairs in England[222]. Leland quotes a manuscript which records the death "XV Kal Apr…apud Chilham" in 1292 of "Domina Isabella de Dovora comitissa de Assele" and her burial "Cantuar: in ecclesia Christi"[223]. A charter dated 1 May 1292 ordered the valuation of the assets of "the late Isabella countess of Athol to her husband Alexander de Balliol"[224]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Burke's: "DAVID OF STRABOLGI, 8TH EARL OF ATHOL, who was Knighted by ALEXANDER III, 1264, Ld of the Manor of Chilham, Kent. By Helen, his first wife, he had no issue. He m 2nd, before June, 1266, Isabel (who m 2nd, before 7 Nov 1270, Alexander de Balliol of Cavers, and d 18 March 1292), dau of Richard of Dover (by Maud, his wife, suo jure Countess of Angus), s of Richard Fitzroy (by Roesia, his wife, dau and heiress of Robert of Dover), natural s of KING JOHN, and by this marriage acquired the Manor of Chilham, Co Kent. He joined the seventh Crusade, under Louis IX of France, and d of the plague at Carthage 6 Aug 1270, having by her had issue, a son and heir.“.1
Reference: Genealogics cites: The Scots Peerage 1904-1914, nine volumes , Paul, Sir James Balfour, Reference: 425.6 GAV-24 EDV-21. Isabel/Isabella de Chilham Dame de Chilham was also known as Isabel de Chilham.21
; Per Genealogy.EU (Anjou 3): “D2. Isabel, *after 1245, +by 1.5.1292; 1m: David de Strabolgi, Earl of Athol (*ca 1240 +1270); 2m: Alexander de Baliol”.13
; Per Med Lands:
"ISABEL of Chilham (after 1245-18 Mar 1292). The primary source which confirms her parentage and two marriages has not yet been identified. She was heiress of her brother at Chilham. "Alexander de Balliol and Isabella his wife…going to Scotland" appointed attorneys for their affairs in England[639]. Leland quotes a manuscript which records the death "XV Kal Apr…apud Chilham" in 1292 of "Domina Isabella de Dovora comitissa de Assele" and her burial "Cantuar: in ecclesia Christi"[640]. A charter dated 1 May 1292 ordered the valuation of the assets of "the late Isabella countess of Athol to her husband Alexander de Balliol"[641].
"m firstly (before 1265) as his second wife, DAVID of Strathbogie Earl of Atholl, son of JOHN of Strathbogie Earl of Atholl & his wife Ada Hastings Ctss of Atholl (-Carthage 6 Aug 1270). He died while on Crusade in Tunisia.
"m secondly (shortly after 7 Nov 1270) ALEXANDER Balliol of Cavers, co Roxburgh, son of HENRY Balliol & his wife Lora [Lauretta] de Valoignes (-[19 Apr 1310/Jun 1311]). Lord of Chilham, by right of his wife."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Baliol): “Sir Alexander Baliol of Cavers + entre 19/04/1310 & 06/1311 chevalier, Grand-Chamberlain of Scotland (1287/94), un des douze Gardiens du Royaume, baron de Valognes, Lord of Panmure, Lord of Cavers (Teviotdale, Roxburghshire), et de Chilham (Kent, par droit de sa femme), récupère les fiefs anglais de sa famille (1266), pro-anglais contre Robert Bruce (1307-1309) (donne la moitié du bois de Gladiswood autrefois à John de Vaux (Wallibus) et à Devorguila, son épouse, au Monastère de Dryburgh, en mémoire de l’âme de son frère Gui ; charte royale d’Edward 1er du 20/01 ou 20/02/1280 minorant le montant de dettes imposées aux héritiers de Robert de Valognes : Alexander et Christiana de Maule ; fait allégeance au Roi Edward 1er d’Angleterre à Montrose 10/07/1296)
ép. peu après 07/11/1270 Isabel de Chilham , dame de Chilham (hérite de son frère) ° après 1245 + ~18/03/1292 (fille de Richard de Dover of Chilham, et de Maud, comtesse d’Angus ou et de Rohaise de Dover ? ; veuve de David of Strathbogie, 9° earl of Atholl) (armes : « D’or, au lion rampant de gueules»)”.11
;
Her 1st husband; his 2nd wife.1,2,13,4,14,15,16,17,11,6,8 Isabel/Isabella de Chilham Dame de Chilham married Sir Alexander de Baliol Knt., Laird of Cavers, Lord of the Manor of Chilham, son of Sir Henry de Baliol of Cavers, Chamberlain of Scotland, baron de Valognes, Lord of Panmure and Lady Lora/Lauretta de Valoins, after 7 November 1270
;
Her 2nd husband.1,2,3,4,18,19,20,11,6,8
Isabel/Isabella de Chilham Dame de Chilham died between 18 March 1291 and 1292.1,4,6,8
; Per Med Lands:
"DAVID of Strathbogie (-Carthage 6 Aug 1270, bur Scotland). He succeeded his father in [1260] as Earl of Atholl. The Liber Pluscardensis records that "Alexander David comitem Atholiæ" was knighted "die natalis Domini" in 1264[216]. "David de Strathbolgy comes Atholiæ" confirmed the donation of "terra de Dunfolemthim" to Cupar abbey made by "Nessus medicus domini regis" [see above], for the souls of "Domini David de Hastings quondam comitis Atholiæ et Forflissæ comitissæ suæ et Elenæ quondam sponsæ nostræ", by undated charter witnessed by "…Domino Alano Hostiario…Domino Thoma Hostiario…"[217]. He took part in the Seventh Crusade with Louis IX King of France, during the course of which he died[218]. The Liber Pluscardensis records the death, dated to [1267] from the context, "apud Cortage" of "David comes Atholiæ"[219]. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the death "VIII Id Aug, in Carthagine" in 1270 of "David comes de Atholia", adding in a later passage that his bones were returned to Scotland[220].
"m firstly HELEN, daughter of ---. "David de Strathbolgy comes Atholiæ" confirmed the donation of "terra de Dunfolemthim" to Cupar abbey made by "Nessus medicus domini regis" [see above], for the souls of "Domini David de Hastings quondam comitis Atholiæ et Forflissæ comitissæ suæ et Elenæ quondam sponsæ nostræ", by undated charter witnessed by "…Domino Alano Hostiario…Domino Thoma Hostiario…"[221].
"m secondly ISABEL of Chilham, daughter of RICHARD Lord of Chilham & his wife Matilda Ctss of Angus (after 1245-18 Mar 1292). She was heiress of her brother at Chilham. She married secondly (after 7 Nov 1270) Alexander Balliol of Cavers, co Roxburgh. "Alexander de Balliol and Isabella his wife…going to Scotland" appointed attorneys for their affairs in England[222]. Leland quotes a manuscript which records the death "XV Kal Apr…apud Chilham" in 1292 of "Domina Isabella de Dovora comitissa de Assele" and her burial "Cantuar: in ecclesia Christi"[223]. A charter dated 1 May 1292 ordered the valuation of the assets of "the late Isabella countess of Athol to her husband Alexander de Balliol"[224]."
Med Lands cites:
[216] Skene, F. J. H. (ed.) (1877) Liber Pluscardensis, Historians of Scotland Vol. VII (Edinburgh), Vol. I, Liber VII, CXXV, p. 100.
[217] Cupar, Vol. I, Breviarum Antiqui Registri, 87, p. 348.
[218] CP I 305.
[219] Liber Pluscardensis, Vol. I, Liber VII, CXXVII, p. 104.
[220] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. X, Cap. XXVI-XXVII, pp. 111-2.
[221] Cupar, Vol. I, Breviarum Antiqui Registri, 87, p. 348.
[222] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 192, p. 60.
[223] Toulmin Smith, L. (ed.) (1910) The Itinerary of John Leland in or about the years 1535-1543 (London) ("Leland’s Itinerary"), Vol. V, Part XI, p. 210, Ex annalibus, autore incerto.
[224] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 591, p. 140.17
[217] Cupar, Vol. I, Breviarum Antiqui Registri, 87, p. 348.
[218] CP I 305.
[219] Liber Pluscardensis, Vol. I, Liber VII, CXXVII, p. 104.
[220] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. X, Cap. XXVI-XXVII, pp. 111-2.
[221] Cupar, Vol. I, Breviarum Antiqui Registri, 87, p. 348.
[222] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 192, p. 60.
[223] Toulmin Smith, L. (ed.) (1910) The Itinerary of John Leland in or about the years 1535-1543 (London) ("Leland’s Itinerary"), Vol. V, Part XI, p. 210, Ex annalibus, autore incerto.
[224] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 591, p. 140.17
; Per Burke's: "DAVID OF STRABOLGI, 8TH EARL OF ATHOL, who was Knighted by ALEXANDER III, 1264, Ld of the Manor of Chilham, Kent. By Helen, his first wife, he had no issue. He m 2nd, before June, 1266, Isabel (who m 2nd, before 7 Nov 1270, Alexander de Balliol of Cavers, and d 18 March 1292), dau of Richard of Dover (by Maud, his wife, suo jure Countess of Angus), s of Richard Fitzroy (by Roesia, his wife, dau and heiress of Robert of Dover), natural s of KING JOHN, and by this marriage acquired the Manor of Chilham, Co Kent. He joined the seventh Crusade, under Louis IX of France, and d of the plague at Carthage 6 Aug 1270, having by her had issue, a son and heir.“.1
Reference: Genealogics cites: The Scots Peerage 1904-1914, nine volumes , Paul, Sir James Balfour, Reference: 425.6 GAV-24 EDV-21. Isabel/Isabella de Chilham Dame de Chilham was also known as Isabel de Chilham.21
; Per Genealogy.EU (Anjou 3): “D2. Isabel, *after 1245, +by 1.5.1292; 1m: David de Strabolgi, Earl of Athol (*ca 1240 +1270); 2m: Alexander de Baliol”.13
; Per Med Lands:
"ISABEL of Chilham (after 1245-18 Mar 1292). The primary source which confirms her parentage and two marriages has not yet been identified. She was heiress of her brother at Chilham. "Alexander de Balliol and Isabella his wife…going to Scotland" appointed attorneys for their affairs in England[639]. Leland quotes a manuscript which records the death "XV Kal Apr…apud Chilham" in 1292 of "Domina Isabella de Dovora comitissa de Assele" and her burial "Cantuar: in ecclesia Christi"[640]. A charter dated 1 May 1292 ordered the valuation of the assets of "the late Isabella countess of Athol to her husband Alexander de Balliol"[641].
"m firstly (before 1265) as his second wife, DAVID of Strathbogie Earl of Atholl, son of JOHN of Strathbogie Earl of Atholl & his wife Ada Hastings Ctss of Atholl (-Carthage 6 Aug 1270). He died while on Crusade in Tunisia.
"m secondly (shortly after 7 Nov 1270) ALEXANDER Balliol of Cavers, co Roxburgh, son of HENRY Balliol & his wife Lora [Lauretta] de Valoignes (-[19 Apr 1310/Jun 1311]). Lord of Chilham, by right of his wife."
Med Lands cites:
[639] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 192, p. 60.
[640] Leland’s Itinerary, Vol. V, Part XI, p. 210, Ex annalibus, autore incerto.
[641] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 591, p. 140.8
[640] Leland’s Itinerary, Vol. V, Part XI, p. 210, Ex annalibus, autore incerto.
[641] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 591, p. 140.8
; Per Racines et Histoire (Baliol): “Sir Alexander Baliol of Cavers + entre 19/04/1310 & 06/1311 chevalier, Grand-Chamberlain of Scotland (1287/94), un des douze Gardiens du Royaume, baron de Valognes, Lord of Panmure, Lord of Cavers (Teviotdale, Roxburghshire), et de Chilham (Kent, par droit de sa femme), récupère les fiefs anglais de sa famille (1266), pro-anglais contre Robert Bruce (1307-1309) (donne la moitié du bois de Gladiswood autrefois à John de Vaux (Wallibus) et à Devorguila, son épouse, au Monastère de Dryburgh, en mémoire de l’âme de son frère Gui ; charte royale d’Edward 1er du 20/01 ou 20/02/1280 minorant le montant de dettes imposées aux héritiers de Robert de Valognes : Alexander et Christiana de Maule ; fait allégeance au Roi Edward 1er d’Angleterre à Montrose 10/07/1296)
ép. peu après 07/11/1270 Isabel de Chilham , dame de Chilham (hérite de son frère) ° après 1245 + ~18/03/1292 (fille de Richard de Dover of Chilham, et de Maud, comtesse d’Angus ou et de Rohaise de Dover ? ; veuve de David of Strathbogie, 9° earl of Atholl) (armes : « D’or, au lion rampant de gueules»)”.11
Family 1 | David de Strathbogie 8th Earl of Atholl d. 6 Aug 1270 |
Child |
Family 2 | Sir Alexander de Baliol Knt., Laird of Cavers, Lord of the Manor of Chilham d. b Jun 1311 |
Children |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Kenworthy-Barons Strabolgi Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Extinct Peerages, p. 22. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Anjou 3 page (The House of Anjou): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/anjou/anjou3.html
- [S1784] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 29 July 2005 "Re: Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/F9_d7JZUuk0/m/5jgR9n064yQJ) to e-mail address, 29 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 29 July 2005."
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), pp. 49-50. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabella de Chilham: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437416&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Baliol.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20Kings%201066-1603.htm#IsabelChilhamdied1292. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20UNTITLED.htm#JohnComynAngusdied1242
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20Kings%201066-1603.htm#RichardChilhamMMaudAngus.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille de Baliol (Bailleul-en-Vimeu) (alias Balliol), p. 9: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Baliol.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richard de Chilham: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437352&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Anjou 3 page (The House of Anjou): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/anjou/anjou3.html
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, p. 49.
- [S4794] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families (5 Volumes) (Salt Lake City, UT: Self Published, 2013), Vol. I, pp. 187-88. Hereinafter cited as Richardson [2013] Royal Ancestry Series (5 Vols).
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, David of Strathbogie: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437414&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#DavidStrathbogieAtholldied1270
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, p. 50.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Alexander de Baliol, Laird of Cavers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437417&tree=LEO
- [S1639] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 23 May 2004: "Re: Peter de Valognes/Peter de Valence/Piers de Valoins"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/v8KdQqA2zSY/m/uz35oFhwDgwJ) to e-mail address, 23 May 2004, https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/v8KdQqA2zSY/m/uz35oFhwDgwJ. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 23 May 2004."
- [S1639] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 23 May 2004," e-mail to e-mail address, 23 May 2004.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alexander de Baliol: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437430&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Bailleul, of Cavers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00498965&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas de Baliol, of Cavers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437431&tree=LEO