Person Page - 1864

     Amy (?) married Sir William de Munchensy.¹

      ; Recently I located an entry in an archbishop's register dated 23 July
1283 which states that "Sir William de Monte Caniso [Munchensy] and
the Lady Amy de Hulle have duly contracted marriage." [Reference: D. Douie, The Register of John Pecham, Archbishop of Canterbury, 1279-1292 2 (Canterbury & York Soc. 65) (1968): 246].

I assume the William de Munchensy involved in this record is the man
whose history is covered by Complete Peerage. If so, this record
would appear to supply William's wife's name.

While the chronology involved with William's daughter, Denise, is a
bit tight, it may well have been that William's wife was pregnant when
he married her. I note that following William's death, Denise's
relatives endeavored to prove she was a bastard, and not her father's
lawful heir. The attempt was not successful and Denise was eventually
declared her father's heir.

The style "Lady Amy de Hulle" suggests that William de Munchensy's
wife might well have been the widow of a deceased knight, which would
justify referring to her as "Lady Amy." If so, a search of the
surviving records of this time period should turn up a knight named
Hulle who left a widow named Amy or Amice.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com.

     Joan de Ufford married Sir Richard de Weyland Knt., of Blaxhall, son of Sir John de Weyland of Blaxhall and Mary de Braose.^1,2

     Mary de Braose married Sir John de Weyland of Blaxhall, son of Sir Thomas de Weyland and Ann de Colevill, before 1289.^1,2

Mary de Braose died after 1312.²

     Roger de Fazarkerley married Joan de Venables, daughter of Sir Hugh de Venables Lord of Kinderton and Margery|Margaret Cotton of Rudheth (Sandbach), before 1382
;
Her 2nd husband.^1,2,3

     Alice le Rus was born circa 1245.¹ She married Richard de Longespee, son of Sir William II Longespee Knt., de jure Earl of Salisbury and Idoine de Camville,
; her 1st husband.^2,3 Alice le Rus married Sir Richard de Braiose, son of John de Braiose of Bramber, Sussex and Margaret ferch Llewellyn ab Iorwerth,
; her 2nd husband.^1,3
Alice le Rus died before 1300.¹
      ; per Ravilious email: [quote]Alice le Rus*[20]
Birth: ca 25 Dec 1245[5] Death: bef 28 Jan 1300[5],[21]

heiress of her father; widow of Richard Longespee (d. before 27 Dec 1261, date of his Inq.p.m.)[5] her wardship and custody of her lands, incl. manor of Sinnington, co. Yorks. granted to William le Rus, 1250[10] her inheritance included a moiety of the manor of Bramley, Surrey held in chief of the King by service of one and 1/2 knight's fee[18]

inheritance included manor of Rouse Hall, Suffolk [evidently became maritagium of her daughter Mary, wife of John de Weyland][21]

called 'lady Alice de Brewose' in Inq.p.m. for her husband, 1297[22]

Spouse: Sir Richard de Braose
Death: bef 18 Jun 1292[5]
Father: John de Braose (~1197-<1232)
Mother: Margaret verch Llywelyn Marr: bef 9 Sep 1265[5]

Children: Mary (->1312), m. Sir John de Weyland
Sir Giles (<1273-<1310)
Richard (->1318)
Margaret (-<1335)

Other Spouses Spouse: Richard Longespee
Death: bef 27 Dec 1261, d.s.p.[18]
Father: Sir William Longespee (<1205-1249)
Mother: Idoine de Camville (-<1252)[end quote]
Ravilious cites: 5. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 - [microprint, 1982 (Alan Sutton) ], The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
10. Richard Borthwick, "Clere/Fay/Rus/Turnham," Feb 8, 1999, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com.
18. Paul MacKenzie, "Pateshull, Grandison, Tregoz etc.," Feb 5, 1999, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com.
20. Douglas Richardson, "New MC Line: Clare-Breuse-Weyland-Burghersh-Despenser," Dec 25, 2000, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, per D. Richardson, a new discovery to be featured in the book, Magna Carta Ancestry.
21. W. A. Copinger, M.A., LL.D., F.S.A., "The Manors of Suffolk: Notes on Their History and Devolution," London: T. F. Unwin, 1905-1911, 7 Vols.
22. Adrian Channing, "Raoul de Faye > Ralph de Fay ?," Nov 27, 2001, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com.²

     Sir Thomas de Weyland married Ann de Colevill, daughter of Richard de Colevill of Pettaugh, Suffolk,
; his 1st wife.¹ Sir Thomas de Weyland married Margaret de Moese, daughter of Thomas de Moese,
; his 2nd wife.¹
Sir Thomas de Weyland died after 1291 at prob. France; died in exile.¹
      ; 1.2a Sir Thomas de Weyland*
----------------------------------------
Death: aft 1291, prob. France (in exile)[1],[5]

of Brandeston, Westerfield, Middleton and Blaxhall, co. Suffolk

'Sir William de Weyland, Sir Thomas his brother' were together
witnesses of a quitclaim of Thomas de Arderne of rents from the
manor of Bawdsey to the prior and canons of St. Mary of Butley,
Suffolk, 6 Aug 1272 [PRO, Suffolk Record Office, Ipswich Branch:
The Iveagh (Phillipps) Suffolk Manuscripts [HD 1538/113 - HD 1538/204]
- HD 1538/172/3[4]

'...order on the Close Rolls this year [1274] to restore the manor
[of Brandeston], not being held in chief of the King, to Thomas de
Weyland, brother and heir of "William" de Weyland [Close Rolls, 2 Edw. I. 5].'[1]

cf. Knights V:184 (cites C.R. 16 Aug 1274, F.R. 17 Ap. 1274)[2]

Lord Chief Justice of the King's Bench

inherited the manor of Chipping Sodbury, co. Glocs. (or a moiety thereof)
from his brother William: a charter for a market and fair dated 15 Nov
1280:
' (Charter) Thurs; gr 15 Nov 1280, by K Edw I to Thomas de Weyland. To
be held at the manor (CChR, 1257–1300, p. 236). '[3]

made a concord with William le Gras, exchanging rights in Chipping Sodbury,
co.
Glocs. (for his son Richard) in exchange for rights in certain Irish lands
held previously by his brother William (q.v., re: Tullaroan & c.), 1283.[6]

record of a fine concerning Framsden, 1284:
' 1284 Thomas de Weylaund and Margaret his wife and Richard their son vs.
John de Stratton in Pethagh and Framesdene.... FFS 85 [13 Edward I, 4 and 13 Edward I, 20][7]

recorded as holding a market and fair at Milbury Heath, co. Glocs. in 1287
(QW, p. 264 cited as source)[3]

fled the King's justice to the church of the Friars Minor at Bury St. Edmunds;
subsequently abjured the realm, 1288[5]
d. overseas [Inq.p.m., 18 Edw. I., 51 as cited by Copinger][1]

NOTE: possibly d. 1292 or later: Prestwich [p.368] states:
[concerning the inquiries made by Edward I from legal experts overseas, over the Scottish succession]
' Remarkably, Thomas Weyland, the recently disgraced chief justice,
proferred his advice. Ignoring the instruction that the kingdom
should be regarded as impartible, he suggested its division between
Balliol, Bruce and Hastings, as this would be to Edward's greatest
advantage.' [ref. Great Cause, ii, 358-65; G. J. Hand, 'The Opinions of the Paris Lawyers upon the Scottish Succession c. 1292', The Irish Jurist, n.s. v (1970), 141-55.][5]

he m. lstly Ann de Colevill,
2ndly Margery de Moese[2]

Spouse: Ann de Colevill
Father: Richard de Colevill, of Pettaugh, Suffolk & c.

Children: Sir William (-1327)
Sir John (-<1312)

Other Spouses Margaret de Moese, 2nd wife

Sources:

1. "The Manors of Suffolk: Notes on Their History and Devolution," W. A.
Copinger,
M.A., LL.D., F.S.A., London: T. F. Unwin, 1905-1911, 7 Vols.
2. "Knights of Edward I," Rev. Charles Moor, D.D., F.S.A., Pubs. of the
Harleian
Society, 1929-1930, 3 Vols. (Vols. 80-83 in series).
3. "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516," www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/
4. "Public Record Office Archives," http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk/
folk Record Office, Ipswich Branch: The Iveagh (Phillipps) Suffolk
Manuscripts
5. "Edward I," Michael Prestwich, New Haven: Yale University Press, 1997 [in England, originally 1988 -Methuen], Yale English Monarchs series.
6. John P. Ravilious, "de Weyland, an Irish Connection (?): Chipping Sodbury,
co. Glocs.," May 28, 2002, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, additional
records
cited by Rosie Bevan, June 2, 2002.
7. "Stratton Notes (Suffolk) from Original Sources," Robert A. Battle, http://

familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/a/t/Robert-A-Battle/FILE/0008page.html
8. "'The Manor and Parish of Blymhill'," Collections for a History of
Staffordshire, The William Salt Archaeological Society, Birmingham:
Houghton
and Hammond, Scotland Passage, Vol. I (1880).
9. "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., Gen Pub Co.,
Baltimore, MD, 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
10. Paul C. Reed, FASG, "Botetourt," Sept 12, 1998,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
cites I. J. Sanders, English Baronies, p. 11 re: Beatrice de Beauchamp.
11. Douglas Richardson, "New MC Line:
Clare-Breuse-Weyland-Burghersh-Despenser,"
Dec 25, 2000, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, per D. Richardson, a new
discovery
to be featured in the book, Magna Carta Ancestry.
12. Douglas Richardson, "The new Weyland-Breuse-Clare line," March 17, 2002,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Chris Given-Wilson, An Illustrated
History
of Late Medieval England (1996), p.78.
13. "Honors and Knights' Fees," William Farrer, Litt.D., London:
Spottiswoode,
Ballantyne & Co., Ltd., 1924 (3 vols.), Vol I:, Vol II: Chester;
Huntingdon,
Vol III: Arundel, Eudes the Sewer, Warenne.
14. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Probable Identity of Joan, wife of Richard de Weyland,"
June 7, 2002, rbevan@paradise.net.nz, citing CIPM v. 6 No. 227 (IPM of
Richard de Weyland, 1319).
15. "The Complete Peerage," G. E. Cokayne, 1910 -
The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the
United Kingdom.
16. Douglas Richardson, "CP Addition: Death of Bartholomew Burghersh, 3rd
Lord
Burghersh," August 12, 2002, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
17. Rosie Bevan, "Re: de Weyland, an Irish Connection (?) : Chipping Sodbury,
co. Glocs.," June 2, 2002, rbevan@paradise.net.nz.¹

; 1.2b Sir Thomas de Weyland* (See above)
----------------------------------------

Spouse: Margaret de Moese, 2nd wife
Death: 1324[1]
Father: Thomas de Moese

Children: Richard (->1308)
Eleanor (-<1331)

Other Spouses Ann de Colevill

Sources:

1. "The Manors of Suffolk: Notes on Their History and Devolution," W. A.
Copinger,
M.A., LL.D., F.S.A., London: T. F. Unwin, 1905-1911, 7 Vols.
2. "Knights of Edward I," Rev. Charles Moor, D.D., F.S.A., Pubs. of the
Harleian
Society, 1929-1930, 3 Vols. (Vols. 80-83 in series).
3. "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516," www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/
4. "Public Record Office Archives," http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk/
folk Record Office, Ipswich Branch: The Iveagh (Phillipps) Suffolk
Manuscripts
5. "Edward I," Michael Prestwich, New Haven: Yale University Press, 1997 [in England, originally 1988 -Methuen], Yale English Monarchs series.
6. John P. Ravilious, "de Weyland, an Irish Connection (?): Chipping Sodbury,
co. Glocs.," May 28, 2002, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, additional
records
cited by Rosie Bevan, June 2, 2002.
7. "Stratton Notes (Suffolk) from Original Sources," Robert A. Battle, http://

familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/a/t/Robert-A-Battle/FILE/0008page.html
8. "'The Manor and Parish of Blymhill'," Collections for a History of
Staffordshire, The William Salt Archaeological Society, Birmingham:
Houghton
and Hammond, Scotland Passage, Vol. I (1880).
9. "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., Gen Pub Co.,
Baltimore, MD, 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
10. Paul C. Reed, FASG, "Botetourt," Sept 12, 1998,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
cites I. J. Sanders, English Baronies, p. 11 re: Beatrice de Beauchamp.
11. Douglas Richardson, "New MC Line:
Clare-Breuse-Weyland-Burghersh-Despenser,"
Dec 25, 2000, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, per D. Richardson, a new
discovery
to be featured in the book, Magna Carta Ancestry.
12. Douglas Richardson, "The new Weyland-Breuse-Clare line," March 17, 2002,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Chris Given-Wilson, An Illustrated
History
of Late Medieval England (1996), p.78.
13. "Honors and Knights' Fees," William Farrer, Litt.D., London:
Spottiswoode,
Ballantyne & Co., Ltd., 1924 (3 vols.), Vol I:, Vol II: Chester;
Huntingdon,
Vol III: Arundel, Eudes the Sewer, Warenne.
14. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Probable Identity of Joan, wife of Richard de Weyland,"
June 7, 2002, rbevan@paradise.net.nz, citing CIPM v. 6 No. 227 (IPM of
Richard de Weyland, 1319).
15. "The Complete Peerage," G. E. Cokayne, 1910 -
The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the
United Kingdom.
16. Douglas Richardson, "CP Addition: Death of Bartholomew Burghersh, 3rd
Lord
Burghersh," August 12, 2002, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
17. Rosie Bevan, "Re: de Weyland, an Irish Connection (?) : Chipping Sodbury,
co. Glocs.," June 2, 2002, rbevan@paradise.net.nz.¹

     Ann de Colevill married Sir Thomas de Weyland, son of Sir John de Weyland of Brandeston, Sufolk and Mary (?),
; his 1st wife.¹

     Margaret de Moese married Sir Thomas de Weyland, son of Sir John de Weyland of Brandeston, Sufolk and Mary (?),
; his 2nd wife.¹
Margaret de Moese died in 1324.¹
      ; NB: The following messages about the identity of Margaret de Moese:

Message #1: In your reconstruction you place Sir Thomas's widow as a daughter of Thomas
de Moese.

In contrast, CP ix 485 makes her the widow of a (?John) de Meuse, rather
than the daughter of a Thomas. It says this about the marriage of her
daughter Eleanor to Hugh de Neville:

"He m., 1stly, probably in 1290,(c) Eleanor, da. of Thomas DE WEYLAND, Chief
Justice of the Common Pleas, by Margery his wife, relict of (?John) DE
MEUSE, which Eleanor became h. of her br., Sir Richard WEYLAND.(d)

"(c) When his friends complained in Parl. of his disparagement by marriage
to the Judges daughter after his forfeiture to the King (Rolls of
Parl., vol. i, p. 52; De Banco Roll, Mich. 23-24 Edw. I, rot. 75).

"(d) Cal. Close Rolls, 1288-96, p. 95; Cal. Inq. p. m., vol. vi, p. 338;
vol. vii, pp. 287, 288; Cal. Inq. Misc., vol. i, no. 1505; Assize Roll 1454,
rot. 7; Duchy of Lanc. Misc. 1/26, m. 4."

Message #2 (Reply to #1): The Moese connection given in my post is per Copinger [1], which I can
extend as follows:

John de Moese
of Campsey, Suffolk
_______________________I_________________
I I
John de Moese = Ada Thomas de Moese
of Campsey and (dower in of Campsey and Newton Hall
Newton Hall Newton Hall) - heir of his brother in
dsp 1293 (vol IV) 1293 (or 1308 ?)
or 1308 (vol I) I
I
I
Margaret de Moese
heiress of her father (Copinger)
d. 1324
= as 2nd wife, Sir Thomas de Weyland



Given the indication of a John de Moese [Meuse ?] as brother of Thomas
(father of Margaret de Moese according to Copinger), and having a widow
Ada , there is some clear disagreement between the CP author of the
Neville article and Copinger. Most likely, given the chronology and the
holdings of John de Moese in Campsey and Newton Hall, Suffolk, I surmise
that the CP author 'presumed' the relationship between John de Moese and
Margaret as husband and wife, not uncle and niece (a la Copinger).

In addition to that issue, there is the statement in the CP article
that Eleanor de Weyland '..became h. of her br., Sir Richard WEYLAND.'
This statement is also open to some discussion: we do find manors held
by this Richard de Weyland in the hands of his 'half' nephew Sir Richard
de Weyland (d. 1319), including Onehouse [Anhus], Suffolk, and also
Campsey (originally a de Moese manor). I wonder, what lands in fact of
the earlier Sir Richard de Weyland's tenure can be found in the hands of
his sister, or nephew John de Neville?

W. A. Copinger, M.A., LL.D., F.S.A., The Manors of Suffolk: Notes on Their History and Devolution (London: T. F. Unwin, 1905-1911), Vol. I, p. 170 - Newton Hall; Vol. IV, p. 230 - Campsey.

     Sir William de Weyland of Brandeston and Westerfield, co. Suffolk died in 1327.¹
      ; 1.2a.1 Sir William de Weyland
----------------------------------------
Death: 1327[1]

of Brandeston and Westerfield, co. Suffolk

' in 1316 a fine was levied.... against Sir William de Weyland, the eldest
son of Sir Thomas Weyland, of this manor, and Westerfield, by which they
passed to the said Robert [de Baldcock], who regranted the same to Robert,
son of the said Sir William de Weyland, and Cecilia his (Robert's) wife,
daughter of Thomas de Baldcock, and the heirs of their bodies, being a
marriage arrangement' [Feet of Fines, 9 Edw. II. 25, cited in Copinger, Vol. IV - Brandeston, p. 222; see also Copinger, Vol. II - Westerfield, p. 369][1]

Children: Robert

Sources:

1. "The Manors of Suffolk: Notes on Their History and Devolution," W. A.
Copinger,
M.A., LL.D., F.S.A., London: T. F. Unwin, 1905-1911, 7 Vols.
2. "Knights of Edward I," Rev. Charles Moor, D.D., F.S.A., Pubs. of the
Harleian
Society, 1929-1930, 3 Vols. (Vols. 80-83 in series).
3. "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516," www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/
4. "Public Record Office Archives," http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk/
folk Record Office, Ipswich Branch: The Iveagh (Phillipps) Suffolk
Manuscripts
5. "Edward I," Michael Prestwich, New Haven: Yale University Press, 1997 [in England, originally 1988 -Methuen], Yale English Monarchs series.
6. John P. Ravilious, "de Weyland, an Irish Connection (?): Chipping Sodbury,
co. Glocs.," May 28, 2002, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, additional
records
cited by Rosie Bevan, June 2, 2002.
7. "Stratton Notes (Suffolk) from Original Sources," Robert A. Battle, http://

familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/a/t/Robert-A-Battle/FILE/0008page.html
8. "'The Manor and Parish of Blymhill'," Collections for a History of
Staffordshire, The William Salt Archaeological Society, Birmingham:
Houghton
and Hammond, Scotland Passage, Vol. I (1880).
9. "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., Gen Pub Co.,
Baltimore, MD, 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
10. Paul C. Reed, FASG, "Botetourt," Sept 12, 1998,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
cites I. J. Sanders, English Baronies, p. 11 re: Beatrice de Beauchamp.
11. Douglas Richardson, "New MC Line:
Clare-Breuse-Weyland-Burghersh-Despenser,"
Dec 25, 2000, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, per D. Richardson, a new
discovery
to be featured in the book, Magna Carta Ancestry.
12. Douglas Richardson, "The new Weyland-Breuse-Clare line," March 17, 2002,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Chris Given-Wilson, An Illustrated
History
of Late Medieval England (1996), p.78.
13. "Honors and Knights' Fees," William Farrer, Litt.D., London:
Spottiswoode,
Ballantyne & Co., Ltd., 1924 (3 vols.), Vol I:, Vol II: Chester;
Huntingdon,
Vol III: Arundel, Eudes the Sewer, Warenne.
14. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Probable Identity of Joan, wife of Richard de Weyland,"
June 7, 2002, rbevan@paradise.net.nz, citing CIPM v. 6 No. 227 (IPM of
Richard de Weyland, 1319).
15. "The Complete Peerage," G. E. Cokayne, 1910 -
The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the
United Kingdom.
16. Douglas Richardson, "CP Addition: Death of Bartholomew Burghersh, 3rd
Lord
Burghersh," August 12, 2002, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
17. Rosie Bevan, "Re: de Weyland, an Irish Connection (?) : Chipping Sodbury,
co. Glocs.," June 2, 2002, rbevan@paradise.net.nz.¹

     Sir John de Weyland of Brandeston, Sufolk married Mary (?)¹

Sir John de Weyland of Brandeston, Sufolk died in 1274.¹
      ; 1 Sir John de Weyland
----------------------------------------
Death: 1274[1]
Father: Sir Nicholas de Weyland

of Brandeston and Westerfield, co. Suffolk

'Sir John de Weyland', had a grant of the manor of Brandeston, Suffolk in
1259:
'This manor [of Brandeston] with the advowson was granted by Hen. III. to
Alan, Lord Burnell, of Acton Burnell, and he in 1259 granted the same to
Sir John de Weyland... and the same year John de Weyland had a grant of
free warren there [Chart. Rolls, 43 Hen. III. 3.]' Copinger IV:221[1]

see also Copinger, Vol. II-Westerfield, p. 369 as to the manor of
Westerfield

Spouse: Mary[1]

Children: William (-<1274)
Sir Thomas (->1291)

Sources:

1. "The Manors of Suffolk: Notes on Their History and Devolution," W. A.
Copinger,
M.A., LL.D., F.S.A., London: T. F. Unwin, 1905-1911, 7 Vols.
2. "Knights of Edward I," Rev. Charles Moor, D.D., F.S.A., Pubs. of the
Harleian
Society, 1929-1930, 3 Vols. (Vols. 80-83 in series).
3. "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516," www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/
4. "Public Record Office Archives," http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk/
folk Record Office, Ipswich Branch: The Iveagh (Phillipps) Suffolk
Manuscripts
5. "Edward I," Michael Prestwich, New Haven: Yale University Press, 1997 [in England, originally 1988 -Methuen], Yale English Monarchs series.
6. John P. Ravilious, "de Weyland, an Irish Connection (?): Chipping Sodbury,
co. Glocs.," May 28, 2002, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, additional
records
cited by Rosie Bevan, June 2, 2002.
7. "Stratton Notes (Suffolk) from Original Sources," Robert A. Battle, http://

familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/a/t/Robert-A-Battle/FILE/0008page.html
8. "'The Manor and Parish of Blymhill'," Collections for a History of
Staffordshire, The William Salt Archaeological Society, Birmingham:
Houghton
and Hammond, Scotland Passage, Vol. I (1880).
9. "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., Gen Pub Co.,
Baltimore, MD, 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
10. Paul C. Reed, FASG, "Botetourt," Sept 12, 1998,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
cites I. J. Sanders, English Baronies, p. 11 re: Beatrice de Beauchamp.
11. Douglas Richardson, "New MC Line:
Clare-Breuse-Weyland-Burghersh-Despenser,"
Dec 25, 2000, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, per D. Richardson, a new
discovery
to be featured in the book, Magna Carta Ancestry.
12. Douglas Richardson, "The new Weyland-Breuse-Clare line," March 17, 2002,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Chris Given-Wilson, An Illustrated
History
of Late Medieval England (1996), p.78.
13. "Honors and Knights' Fees," William Farrer, Litt.D., London:
Spottiswoode,
Ballantyne & Co., Ltd., 1924 (3 vols.), Vol I:, Vol II: Chester;
Huntingdon,
Vol III: Arundel, Eudes the Sewer, Warenne.
14. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Probable Identity of Joan, wife of Richard de Weyland,"
June 7, 2002, rbevan@paradise.net.nz, citing CIPM v. 6 No. 227 (IPM of
Richard de Weyland, 1319).
15. "The Complete Peerage," G. E. Cokayne, 1910 -
The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the
United Kingdom.
16. Douglas Richardson, "CP Addition: Death of Bartholomew Burghersh, 3rd
Lord
Burghersh," August 12, 2002, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
17. Rosie Bevan, "Re: de Weyland, an Irish Connection (?) : Chipping Sodbury,
co. Glocs.," June 2, 2002, rbevan@paradise.net.nz.¹

     Mary (?) married Sir John de Weyland of Brandeston, Sufolk.¹

     William de Weyland of Brandeston, Suffolk died before 17 April 1274; dsp.¹
      ; 1.1 William de Weyland
----------------------------------------
Death: bef 17 Apr 1274, d.s.p.[1],[2]

of Brandeston, Suffolk

apparently succeeded his father at Brandeston, also dying in 1274 (succeeded
by brother Thomas)[1]

held lands in 'Tulachrothan [Tullaroan], Rathbolgan, Gurtuelem and Balydine,
Ireland' of which certain rights he had granted to William le Gras

had charter dated 6 Nov 1270 for a market and fair at Chipping Sodbury, co.
Glocs.:
'(Charter) vfm, Decollation of John the Baptist (29 Aug); gr 6 Nov 1270, by
K Hen III to William de Weylaund (CChR, 1257–1300, p. 156). To be held at
the manor.'[3]

witness as 'Sir William Weyland' together with his brother Sir Thomas
of a quitclaim concerning the manor of Bawdsey, Suffolk, 6 Aug 1272[4]

livery of his lands given to his brother and heir William, 17 Apr 1274
(Knights V:184)[2]

Sources:

1. "The Manors of Suffolk: Notes on Their History and Devolution," W. A.
Copinger,
M.A., LL.D., F.S.A., London: T. F. Unwin, 1905-1911, 7 Vols.
2. "Knights of Edward I," Rev. Charles Moor, D.D., F.S.A., Pubs. of the
Harleian
Society, 1929-1930, 3 Vols. (Vols. 80-83 in series).
3. "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516," www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/
4. "Public Record Office Archives," http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk/
folk Record Office, Ipswich Branch: The Iveagh (Phillipps) Suffolk
Manuscripts
5. "Edward I," Michael Prestwich, New Haven: Yale University Press, 1997 [in England, originally 1988 -Methuen], Yale English Monarchs series.
6. John P. Ravilious, "de Weyland, an Irish Connection (?): Chipping Sodbury,
co. Glocs.," May 28, 2002, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, additional
records
cited by Rosie Bevan, June 2, 2002.
7. "Stratton Notes (Suffolk) from Original Sources," Robert A. Battle, http://

familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/a/t/Robert-A-Battle/FILE/0008page.html
8. "'The Manor and Parish of Blymhill'," Collections for a History of
Staffordshire, The William Salt Archaeological Society, Birmingham:
Houghton
and Hammond, Scotland Passage, Vol. I (1880).
9. "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., Gen Pub Co.,
Baltimore, MD, 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
10. Paul C. Reed, FASG, "Botetourt," Sept 12, 1998,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
cites I. J. Sanders, English Baronies, p. 11 re: Beatrice de Beauchamp.
11. Douglas Richardson, "New MC Line:
Clare-Breuse-Weyland-Burghersh-Despenser,"
Dec 25, 2000, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, per D. Richardson, a new
discovery
to be featured in the book, Magna Carta Ancestry.
12. Douglas Richardson, "The new Weyland-Breuse-Clare line," March 17, 2002,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Chris Given-Wilson, An Illustrated
History
of Late Medieval England (1996), p.78.
13. "Honors and Knights' Fees," William Farrer, Litt.D., London:
Spottiswoode,
Ballantyne & Co., Ltd., 1924 (3 vols.), Vol I:, Vol II: Chester;
Huntingdon,
Vol III: Arundel, Eudes the Sewer, Warenne.
14. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Probable Identity of Joan, wife of Richard de Weyland,"
June 7, 2002, rbevan@paradise.net.nz, citing CIPM v. 6 No. 227 (IPM of
Richard de Weyland, 1319).
15. "The Complete Peerage," G. E. Cokayne, 1910 -
The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the
United Kingdom.
16. Douglas Richardson, "CP Addition: Death of Bartholomew Burghersh, 3rd
Lord
Burghersh," August 12, 2002, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
17. Rosie Bevan, "Re: de Weyland, an Irish Connection (?) : Chipping Sodbury,
co. Glocs.," June 2, 2002, rbevan@paradise.net.nz.¹

     Richard de Weyland married Juliana de Sandwich, daughter of John de Sandwich of Folkestone, Kent and Alice (?).¹

Richard de Weyland died after 6 December 1308; dsp.¹
      ; 1.2b.1 Richard de Weyland
----------------------------------------
Death: aft 6 Dec 1308, d.s.p.[6],[2]

of Onehouse [Anhus] and Framesden, Suffolk and Chipping Sodbury, co. Glocs.

rights to Chipping Sodbury acquired on his behalf by agreement of his parents
with William le Gras, 1283[6]

evidently was jointly enfeoffed in Milbury Heath, co. Glocs. (recorded as
holding fair and market there with William de Weylaund and Margaret his
wife,
1287)[3]

writ of 1290 authorized release of the manor of Anhus [Onehouse], Suffolk 'as
he
and Sir Thomas [his father] were jointly enfeoffed'[17]

lord of Folkestone, Kent de jure uxoris by 1296 (cites by Rosie Bevan, IPM of
Mabel Tregoz, 25 Edw. I and others)[6]

'Richard Welond of Framesdene', witness to quitclaim ca. 1291/2 in
Cretingham,
Suffolk - PRO, Suffolk Record Office, Ipswich Branch: The Iveagh (Phillipps)
Suffolk Manuscripts [HD 1538/113 - HD 1538/204] - Cretingham. Evidences of
title, Quitclaim, ref. HD 1538/196/1[4]

witness to quitclaim by John de le Hil of Fornham St. Genevieve to John,
abbott
of St. Edmundsbury, ca. 1280-1300 (PRO, Suffolk Record Office, Bury St
Edmunds
Branch: Hengrave [449/2 - 449/9] , SUFFOLK [449/2/190][4]

released his rights in Sodbury and Leygrave manors, and Sodbury borough, co.
Glocs. (Chipping Sodbury) to Gilbert de Clare, Earl of Gloucester 6 Dec
1308 (Knights V:186)[2]

Spouse: Juliana de Sandwich
Father: John de Sandwich (-1288), of Folkestone, Kent
Mother: Alice

Sources:

1. "The Manors of Suffolk: Notes on Their History and Devolution," W. A.
Copinger,
M.A., LL.D., F.S.A., London: T. F. Unwin, 1905-1911, 7 Vols.
2. "Knights of Edward I," Rev. Charles Moor, D.D., F.S.A., Pubs. of the
Harleian
Society, 1929-1930, 3 Vols. (Vols. 80-83 in series).
3. "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516," www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/
4. "Public Record Office Archives," http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk/
folk Record Office, Ipswich Branch: The Iveagh (Phillipps) Suffolk
Manuscripts
5. "Edward I," Michael Prestwich, New Haven: Yale University Press, 1997 [in England, originally 1988 -Methuen], Yale English Monarchs series.
6. John P. Ravilious, "de Weyland, an Irish Connection (?): Chipping Sodbury,
co. Glocs.," May 28, 2002, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, additional
records
cited by Rosie Bevan, June 2, 2002.
7. "Stratton Notes (Suffolk) from Original Sources," Robert A. Battle, http://

familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/a/t/Robert-A-Battle/FILE/0008page.html
8. "'The Manor and Parish of Blymhill'," Collections for a History of
Staffordshire, The William Salt Archaeological Society, Birmingham:
Houghton
and Hammond, Scotland Passage, Vol. I (1880).
9. "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., Gen Pub Co.,
Baltimore, MD, 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
10. Paul C. Reed, FASG, "Botetourt," Sept 12, 1998,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
cites I. J. Sanders, English Baronies, p. 11 re: Beatrice de Beauchamp.
11. Douglas Richardson, "New MC Line:
Clare-Breuse-Weyland-Burghersh-Despenser,"
Dec 25, 2000, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, per D. Richardson, a new
discovery
to be featured in the book, Magna Carta Ancestry.
12. Douglas Richardson, "The new Weyland-Breuse-Clare line," March 17, 2002,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Chris Given-Wilson, An Illustrated
History
of Late Medieval England (1996), p.78.
13. "Honors and Knights' Fees," William Farrer, Litt.D., London:
Spottiswoode,
Ballantyne & Co., Ltd., 1924 (3 vols.), Vol I:, Vol II: Chester;
Huntingdon,
Vol III: Arundel, Eudes the Sewer, Warenne.
14. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Probable Identity of Joan, wife of Richard de Weyland,"
June 7, 2002, rbevan@paradise.net.nz, citing CIPM v. 6 No. 227 (IPM of
Richard de Weyland, 1319).
15. "The Complete Peerage," G. E. Cokayne, 1910 -
The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the
United Kingdom.
16. Douglas Richardson, "CP Addition: Death of Bartholomew Burghersh, 3rd
Lord
Burghersh," August 12, 2002, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
17. Rosie Bevan, "Re: de Weyland, an Irish Connection (?) : Chipping Sodbury,
co. Glocs.," June 2, 2002, rbevan@paradise.net.nz.¹

     Eleanor de Weyland married Hugh de Neville of Hallingbury and Wethersfield, Essex, son of John de Neville and Margaret (?).¹

Eleanor de Weyland died before 11 June 1331.¹
      ; 1.2b.2 Eleanor de Weyland
----------------------------------------
Death: bef 11 Jun 1331[2]

cf. Knights V:185[2]

Spouse: Hugh de Neville, of Hallingbury and Wethersfield, Essex & c.
Death: 1335[15]
Father: John de Neville (-<1282)
Mother: Margaret

Children: John

Sources:

1. "The Manors of Suffolk: Notes on Their History and Devolution," W. A.
Copinger,
M.A., LL.D., F.S.A., London: T. F. Unwin, 1905-1911, 7 Vols.
2. "Knights of Edward I," Rev. Charles Moor, D.D., F.S.A., Pubs. of the
Harleian
Society, 1929-1930, 3 Vols. (Vols. 80-83 in series).
3. "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516," www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/
4. "Public Record Office Archives," http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk/
folk Record Office, Ipswich Branch: The Iveagh (Phillipps) Suffolk
Manuscripts
5. "Edward I," Michael Prestwich, New Haven: Yale University Press, 1997 [in England, originally 1988 -Methuen], Yale English Monarchs series.
6. John P. Ravilious, "de Weyland, an Irish Connection (?): Chipping Sodbury,
co. Glocs.," May 28, 2002, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, additional
records
cited by Rosie Bevan, June 2, 2002.
7. "Stratton Notes (Suffolk) from Original Sources," Robert A. Battle, http://

familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/a/t/Robert-A-Battle/FILE/0008page.html
8. "'The Manor and Parish of Blymhill'," Collections for a History of
Staffordshire, The William Salt Archaeological Society, Birmingham:
Houghton
and Hammond, Scotland Passage, Vol. I (1880).
9. "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., Gen Pub Co.,
Baltimore, MD, 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
10. Paul C. Reed, FASG, "Botetourt," Sept 12, 1998,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
cites I. J. Sanders, English Baronies, p. 11 re: Beatrice de Beauchamp.
11. Douglas Richardson, "New MC Line:
Clare-Breuse-Weyland-Burghersh-Despenser,"
Dec 25, 2000, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, per D. Richardson, a new
discovery
to be featured in the book, Magna Carta Ancestry.
12. Douglas Richardson, "The new Weyland-Breuse-Clare line," March 17, 2002,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Chris Given-Wilson, An Illustrated
History
of Late Medieval England (1996), p.78.
13. "Honors and Knights' Fees," William Farrer, Litt.D., London:
Spottiswoode,
Ballantyne & Co., Ltd., 1924 (3 vols.), Vol I:, Vol II: Chester;
Huntingdon,
Vol III: Arundel, Eudes the Sewer, Warenne.
14. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Probable Identity of Joan, wife of Richard de Weyland,"
June 7, 2002, rbevan@paradise.net.nz, citing CIPM v. 6 No. 227 (IPM of
Richard de Weyland, 1319).
15. "The Complete Peerage," G. E. Cokayne, 1910 -
The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the
United Kingdom.
16. Douglas Richardson, "CP Addition: Death of Bartholomew Burghersh, 3rd
Lord
Burghersh," August 12, 2002, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
17. Rosie Bevan, "Re: de Weyland, an Irish Connection (?) : Chipping Sodbury,
co. Glocs.," June 2, 2002, rbevan@paradise.net.nz.¹

     Hugh de Neville of Hallingbury and Wethersfield, Essex married Eleanor de Weyland, daughter of Sir Thomas de Weyland and Margaret de Moese.¹

Hugh de Neville of Hallingbury and Wethersfield, Essex died in 1335.¹

     John de Neville married Margaret (?)¹

John de Neville died before 1282.¹

     Margaret (?) married John de Neville.¹

     Juliana de Sandwich married Richard de Weyland, son of Sir Thomas de Weyland and Margaret de Moese.¹

     John de Sandwich of Folkestone, Kent married Alice (?)¹

John de Sandwich of Folkestone, Kent died in 1282.¹

     Isabel (?) married Thomas Brumpton
;
Her 1st husband.² Isabel (?) was born circa 1376.³ She married Sir Robert Francis Knt., of Foremark, Derbychire, son of Robert Francis of Foremark, Derbychire and Cecily (?), between 1382 and 1392
;
Her 2nd husband.
I have Sir Robert Francis married to his wife Isabell in the 1382/92 period. If the earlier date is accurate, then Joan would probably be of an age to marry in 1405. _The House of Commons_ by Roskell has Isabel's first husband dying in 1382, and states "m. by Easter 1392, Isabel, wid. of Thomas Brumpton (d. 1382) of Longford..." S.M. Wright, _Derbyshire Gentry_, Derbyshire Record Soc. viii, has the details of the marriages of all of this couples dtrs.^4,5
Isabel (?) died after 1436.⁴
     EDV-20 GKJ-17.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Isabel (?) was also known as Isabell Peshale?^3,6

     Richard Beaumont Esq., of Whitley Hall, Yorks married Cecilia (?)

     Cecilia (?) married Richard Beaumont Esq., of Whitley Hall, Yorks.

     Jane Le Tyes married John Wentworth Esq., of North Elmsall, Yorks, son of William Wentworth and Isabel Pollington, circa 1314.^1,2

      ; heiress of Elmsall, co. York.³ Jane Le Tyes was also known as Joan le Tyas.⁴

     John Dransfield married Elizabeth (?)¹

John Dransfield died after 1358.¹