William I de Warenne 1st Earl of Surrey, 1st Earl of Warenne1,2,3,4

M, #4981, b. between 1035 and 1040, d. 24 June 1088
FatherRodulf I de Warenne1,3,4,5 b. c 998, d. a 1074
MotherBeatrice (?)1,3,4 d. a 1053
ReferenceGAV25 EDV24
Last Edited25 May 2020
     William I de Warenne 1st Earl of Surrey, 1st Earl of Warenne married Marie? Guet;
His 2nd wife.2,4,6 William I de Warenne 1st Earl of Surrey, 1st Earl of Warenne was born between 1035 and 1040 at Bellencombe, Seine-Inferieure, France; Genealogy.EU says b. 1055; Genealogics says b. ca 1040; Med Lands says b. 1035/40.3,4,6 He married Gundred/Gundrada (?), daughter of Unknown (?), circa 1070;
His 1st wife. Weis [1999:188] says m. bef 1077; Warenne page says m. bef 1070; Genealogics says m. ca 1070.1,3,7,8,6,4
William I de Warenne 1st Earl of Surrey, 1st Earl of Warenne died on 24 June 1088 at Lewes, East Sussex, England.1,2,3,6,4
William I de Warenne 1st Earl of Surrey, 1st Earl of Warenne was buried after 24 June 1088 at Chapter House, Lewes, East Sussex, England.3


     Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. A History of Medieval Europe From Constantine to Saint Louis, 1970, Harlow, Essex, Davis, R. H. C. 254 bio.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. Page 59.
3. Foundation Charter of Lewes Priory . Biographical details.
4. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. XII 493.
5. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard. 568.
6. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald. Page 170.
7. Biogr. details drawn from Wikipedia.4


William I de Warenne 1st Earl of Surrey, 1st Earl of Warenne
Per Med Lands:
     "WILLIAM [I] de Warenne, son of RAOUL de Warenne & his [first wife Beatrice ---] ([1035/40]-Lewes 24 Jun 1088, bur Lewes Priory). There is some doubt about the identity of the mother of William de Warenne. Guillaume of Jumièges names “Willelmus postea comes Surreiæ...” as Raoul’s son by his wife Beatrice[1101]. However, an undated charter, quoted more fully below, names them "Rodulfus et uxor eius…Emma ac filii eorum Rodulfus et Willelmus"[1102]. As documents date Raoul’s marriage to Emma in [1053/59], the birth of their children of Raoul’s second marriage would be dated to [1055/65]. However, reports quoted below indicate that Guillaume de Warenne was active as an adult in Normandy before the English invasion in 1066, which would place his birth to [1035/40]. This all suggests that Guillaume of Jumièges is correct and that the children were born from their father’s first marriage. Orderic Vitalis records, in recounting a death-bed speech of William I King of England, that "castrum…Mortui Mari" was granted to "Guillelmo de Guarenna consanguineo eius" after it was confiscated from "Rogerium de Mortuomari" who had helped the escape of a French prisoner after defeating troops of Henri King of France in 1054 "apud Mortuum-Mare"[1103]. According to the Complete Peerage, in [1054], he acquired land at Bellencombre, whose castle became the headquarters of the Warenne family in Normandy, and in 1066 took part in the invasion of England in 1066 and was rewarded with land in 13 counties[1104]. Orderic Vitalis names “...Willermus de Warenna et Hugo Pincerna...” among the leading lords under Guillaume II Duke of Normandy[1105]. Orderic Vitalis names “...Hugo de Grentemaisnilio et Guillermus de Garenna...” among those who took part in the battle of Hastings[1106]. Orderic Vitalis records that King William installed “Guillermum Osberni filium” at his new fortress at Winchester (“intra mœnia Guentæ”) and appointed him “vice sua toti regno versus Aquilonem”, while he granted “Doveram...totamque Cantiam” to “Odoni fratri suo”, and thus he entrusted “his duobus præfecturam Angliæ”, seconded by “Hugonem de Grentemaisnilio et Hugonem de Monteforti, Guillelmumque de Garenna”, dated to 1067[1107]. Orderic Vitalis says the king "gave Surrey" to William de Warenne in the chronicler's description of post-conquest grants made by King William, without specifying that he was created earl[1108]. Orderic Vitalis records that King William I granted "Sutregiam" to "Guillelmo de Guarenna" who had married "Gundredam sororem Gherbodi"[1109]. "Hugo de Flamenvilla" sold property "quam tenebat de domino suo Rodulfo de Warethana in Amundi Villæ…et in Maltevilla…[et] in Flamenvilla" by undated charter which also records that later "supra memoratus Rodulfus et uxor eius…Emma ac filii eorum Rodulfus et Willelmus" confirmed the agreement, signed by "…ipsius Hugonis de Flamenvilla, Rotberti filii eius, Gisleberti filii eiusdem…"[1110]. A charter dated 1074 records that "Rodulfus de Warenna eiusque conjux…Emma cum filiis suis Rodulfo…atque Willelmo" sold land in "quattuor villarum Caletensis pagi, Maltevillæ…Flamenvillæ, Amundi Villæ et Anglicevillæ" to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen, as well as "totius Osulfi Villæ eiusdem Caletensis pagi" sold by "Guillelmo filio Rogerii filii Hugonis episcopi"[1111]. Orderic Vitalis records, in recounting a death-bed speech of William I King of England, that "castrum…Mortui Mari" was granted to "Guillelmo de Guarenna consanguineo eius" after it was confiscated from "Rogerium de Mortuomari" who had helped the escape of a French prisoner after defeating troops of Henri King of France in 1054 "apud Mortuum-Mare"[1112]. The chronology of the family shows that the grant to William de Warenne must have occurred several years after the confiscation from Roger de Mortimer. “…Willielmi de Guarenna…” witnessed the charter dated 1082 under which William I King of England granted land at Covenham to the church of St Calais[1113]. Domesday Book records land held by “William de Warenne” in Fratton in Portsdown Hundred in Hampshire; numerous holdings in Norfolk[1114]. Orderic Vitalis says the king "gave Surrey" to William de Warenne in the chronicler's description of post-conquest grants made by King William, without specifying that he was created earl[1115]. Orderic Vitalis records that in Jan 1086 “Guillelmus de Warenna et Baldricus de Chitreio Nicolai filius, atque Gislebertus de Aquila”, wanting to avenge the death of “Richerii fratris sui” [Richer de Laigle], unsuccessfully attacked the besiegers of the castle of Sainte-Suzanne[1116]. He supported King William II against the rebels led by Eudes Bishop of Bayeux and Robert Comte de Mortain in early 1088 and was rewarded by being created Earl of Surrey in [late Apr] 1088: Orderic Vitalis records that King William II appointed “Guilelmum de Guarenna” as “comitem Suthregiæ”, and adds that he was later buried at Lewes, dated to [1088/89][1117]. He and his immediate successors usually styled themselves "Earl de Warenne". He was mortally wounded at the siege of Pevensey[1118]. William I King of England donated property in Norfolk to Lewes priory, for the souls of “…Gulielmi de Warenna et uxoris suæ Gundfredæ filiæ meæ” by charter dated to [1080/86], witnessed by "…Michael de Tona…Milonis Crispini…"[1119].
     "m firstly (1070) GUNDRED, sister of GERBOD "the Fleming" Earl of Chester, daughter of --- (-Castle Acre, Norfolk 27 May 1085, bur Lewes Priory). Orderic Vitalis records that King William I granted "Sutregiam" to "Guillelmo de Guarenna" who had married "Gundredam sororem Gherbodi"[1120]. "Willelmus de Warenna…Surreie comes [et] Gundrada uxor mea" founded Lewes Priory as a cell of Cluny by charter dated 1080[1121]. This charter also names "domine mee Matildis regine, matris uxoris mee", specifying that the queen gave "mansionem quoque Carlentonam nomine" to Gundred. It is presumably on this basis that some secondary works claim, it appears incorrectly, that Gundred was the daughter of William I King of England. Weir asserts that the charter in question "has been proved spurious"[1122], although it is not certain what other elements in the text indicate that this is likely to be the case. Assuming the charter is genuine, it is presumably possible that "matris" was intended in the context to indicate a quasi-maternal relationship, such as foster-mother or godmother. The same relationship is referred to in the charter dated to [1080/86] under which William I King of England donated property in Norfolk to Lewes priory, for the souls of “…Gulielmi de Warenna et uxoris suæ Gundfredæ filiæ meæ”[1123]. Gundred died in childbirth. The necrology of Longpont records the death “VII Kal Jun” of “Gondreda comitissa”[1124].
     "m secondly ([1085/88]) [MARIE], sister of RICHARD Guet, daughter of ---. Her marriage is confirmed by the Annals of Bermondsey which record the donation in 1098 by “Ricardus Guet frater comitissæ Warennæ” of “manerium de Cowyk” to the monastery[1125]. As William de Warenne’s son must have been below marriageable age before his father died, this reference can only apply to a second wife of William de Warenne senior. [The necrology of Longpont records the death “XIV Kal Oct” of “Marie comitisse de ---ranna”[1126]. It is not certain that the incomplete place name indicates “Warenna”. However, two other references to the Warenne family are included in the same necrology. If this hypothesis is correct, the second wife of Earl William is the only countess whose name is not otherwise recorded so the entry could relate to her.] "
Med Lands cites:
[1101] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XXXVII, p. 312.
[1102] Rouen Sainte-Trinité, XXXI, p. 437.
[1103] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VII, II, p. 160, and XV, pp. 236-7.
[1104] CP XII/1 493.
[1105] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, XI, p. 121.
[1106] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, XIV, p. 148.
[1107] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber IV, I, p. 167.
[1108] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. II, Book IV, p. 265.
[1109] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber IV, VII, p. 221.
[1110] Rouen Sainte-Trinité, XXXI, p. 437.
[1111] Rouen Sainte-Trinité, XXXV, p. 440.
[1112] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VII, II, p. 160, and XV, pp. 236-7.
[1113] Dugdale Monasticon V, Lewes Priory, Sussex, IV, p. 13.
[1114] Domesday Translation, Hampshire, XXXIIII, p. 114,Norfolk, pp. 1086-98.
[1115] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. II, Book IV, p. 265.
[1116] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VII, X, p. 198.
[1117] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VIII, IX, p. 317.
[1118] CP XII/1 494.
[1119] Dugdale Monasticon VI.2, Covenham Priory, Lincolnshire, I, p. 993.
[1120] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber IV, VII, p. 221.
[1121] Cluny, Tome IV, 3561, p. 689.
[1122] Weir (2002), p. 45.
[1123] Dugdale Monasticon VI.2, Covenham Priory, Lincolnshire, I, p. 993.
[1124] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Prieuré de Longpont, p. 524.
[1125] Annales de Bermundeseia, p. 429.
[1126] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Prieuré de Longpont, p. 527.6
He was created 1st Earl of Surrey.3

William I de Warenne 1st Earl of Surrey, 1st Earl of Warenne
Per Genealogics:
     "William was the son of Rodulf I de Warenne and Béatrice, and a grand nephew of Gunnor, wife of Richard I, duke of Normandy. As a young man he helped secure Duke William's hold on Normandy, most notably in the campaigns of 1052 through 1054 which culminated in the Battle of Mortemer. After this battle Roger de Mortemer forfeited most of his lands, and the duke gave them to William. The de Warenne surname derives from the castle of that name on the River Varenne, which flows through the territory William acquired in Upper Normandy.
     "William was one of the nobles who advised Duke William when the decision to invade England was being considered. He fought at Hastings, and afterwards received the Rape of Lewes in Sussex, and subsequently lands in twelve other shires. In addition to the cluster around Lewes, there were clusters around the castles he built at Castle Acre in Norfolk and Conisborough in Yorkshire. He also built castles at Lewes (Sussex) and Reigate (Surrey). By the time of the Domesday survey he was one of the wealthiest landholders in England with holdings in 12 counties.
     "About 1070 he married Gundred, said to be the sister of Gerbod the Fleming, earl of Chester. They had two sons and a daughter, of whom William II would have progeny. There is a story that William and Gundred visited the abbey of Cluny in France. Because they found there 'such great holiness and religion and charity' they felt compelled to take some of it home with them. 'And so we sent and asked the Abbot Hugh and all the holy body to give us two, or three, or four holy monks from their holy flock to whom we might give the church, which we had converted from wood to stone, below our castle at Lewes.'
     "William fought against rebels at the Isle of Ely in 1071 where he showed a special desire to hunt down the Saxon rebel Hereward 'the Wake' who had murdered his brother the year before.
     "William was loyal to William II Rufus, and it was probably in early 1088 that he was created earl of Surrey. He died shortly afterwards, on 24 June that year, of wounds he received while helping suppress the rebellion of 1088."4 GAV-25 EDV-24 GKJ-25.

William I de Warenne 1st Earl of Surrey, 1st Earl of Warenne and Gundred/Gundrada (?)
Per Genealogy.EU: [2m.] William I de Warenne, Seigneur de Varennes, created 1st Earl of Surrey, *Bellencombe, Seine Inferieure, France 1055, +Lewes, Sussex 24.5/6.1088, bur Chapterhouse of Lewes; m.Normandy before 1070 [4982] Gundred of Normandy (*ca 1048, +27.5.1085)."3

William I de Warenne 1st Earl of Surrey, 1st Earl of Warenne
present at the battle of Hastings in 1066.

Family 1

Marie? Guet d. a 1098

Family 2

Gundred/Gundrada (?) b. c 1053, d. 27 May 1085
Children

Citations

  1. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 158-1, p. 188. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 258-259, de WARENNE 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Warenne page - de Warenne family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/warenne.html
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Warenne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00015372&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rodulf I de Warenne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00121023&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#_Toc21106868. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gundred: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00015367&tree=LEO
  8. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#GundredMWilliamWarenne
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Edith|Gundred de Warenne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00015441&tree=LEO
  10. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#EdithWarenneM1GeraudGournayM2DreuxMoncea

Gundred/Gundrada (?)1

F, #4982, b. circa 1053, d. 27 May 1085
FatherUnknown (?)2
ReferenceGAV25 EDV24
Last Edited30 Apr 2020
     Gundred/Gundrada (?) was born circa 1053 at Normandy, France.3 She married William I de Warenne 1st Earl of Surrey, 1st Earl of Warenne, son of Rodulf I de Warenne and Beatrice (?), circa 1070;
His 1st wife. Weis [1999:188] says m. bef 1077; Warenne page says m. bef 1070; Genealogics says m. ca 1070.1,4,3,5,6,7
Gundred/Gundrada (?) died on 27 May 1085 at Castle Acre, Kings Lynn and West Norfolk Borough, co. Norfolk, England.8,3,5
Gundred/Gundrada (?) was buried after 27 May 1085 at Lewes Priory, Lewes, Lewes District, East Sussex, England,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1051
     DEATH     27 May 1085 (aged 33–34), Castle Acre, Kings Lynn and West Norfolk Borough, Norfolk, England
     English Aristocracy. Possibly born in Normandy, France, it is unclear as to whether she was the sister or the daughter of Gerbod the Fleming, Earl of Chester, the hereditary advocate of the Abbey of St. Bertin at St. Omer. She married William I de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey. She apparently died in childbirth at Castle Acre, Norfolk, England. Her name has also been recorded as Gundreda. Bio by: Iola
     Family Members
     Parents
          William the Conqueror 1028–1087
          Matilda of Flanders 1031–1083
     Spouse
          William de Warenne 1035–1088
     Siblings
          Constance de Normandie de Bretagne unknown–1090
          Robert de Normandie 1054–1135
          Richard de Normandie 1054–1081
          King William de Normandie 1056–1100
          Cecilia Of Holy Trinity Princess Of England 1056–1126
          Agatha de Normandie 1064–1080
          Adele of Normandy 1066–1138
          Henry I of England 1068–1135 (m. 1100)
     BURIAL*     Lewes Priory, Lewes, Lewes District, East Sussex, England
     * This is the original burial site
     Maintained by: Find a Grave
     Originally Created by: girlofcelje
     Added: 24 Aug 2004
     Find a Grave Memorial 9360757.5,9
     Gundred/Gundrada (?) and William I de Warenne 1st Earl of Surrey, 1st Earl of Warenne
Per Genealogy.EU: [2m.] William I de Warenne, Seigneur de Varennes, created 1st Earl of Surrey, *Bellencombe, Seine Inferieure, France 1055, +Lewes, Sussex 24.5/6.1088, bur Chapterhouse of Lewes; m.Normandy before 1070 [4982] Gundred of Normandy (*ca 1048, +27.5.1085)."4

Gundred/Gundrada (?)
Per Wikipedia:
     "Gundred or Gundreda (Latin: Gundrada) (died 27 May 1085)[1] was the Flemish-born wife of an early Norman baron, William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey. She and her husband established Lewes Priory in Sussex.
Life
     "Gundred was almost certainly born in Flanders, and was a sister of Gerbod the Fleming, 1st Earl of Chester.[2][3][4][5] She is explicitly so called by Orderic Vitalis,[6] as well as the chronicle of Hyde Abbey.[7] She was also the sister of Frederick of Oosterzele-Scheldewindeke, who was killed c.1070 by Hereward the Wake.[8]
     "Gundred married before 1070[9] William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey (d. 20 June 1088),[1] who rebuilt Lewes Castle, making it his chief residence. Sometime between 1078 and 1082,[10] Gundred and her husband set out for Rome, visiting monasteries along the way. In Burgundy they were unable to go any farther due to a war between Henry IV and Pope Gregory VII. They visited Cluny Abbey and were impressed with the monks and their dedication. William and Gundred decided to found a Cluniac priory on their own lands in England. They sent to Hugh, the abbot of Cluny, for monks to come to England at their monastery. Hugh was reluctant yet eventually sent several monks, including Lazlo, who became the first abbot. The house they founded was Lewes Priory, dedicated to St. Pancras.[11][12] Gundred died in childbirth on 27 May 1085 at Castle Acre, Norfolk, one of her husband's estates, and was buried at the Chapter house of Lewes Priory.[1][12] He was later buried beside her.[13]
Tombstone
     "In the course of the centuries which followed, both tombstones disappeared from the priory. In 1774 Edward Clarke discovered Gundred's in Isfield Church (seven miles from Lewes), over the remains of Edward Shirley, Esq., who died in 1550. William Burrell had it removed on 2 October 1775 to St. John's Church, Southover, where it was placed on display.[14][15]
     "In 1845, during excavations through the Priory grounds for the Brighton Lewes and Hastings Railway, the lead chests containing the remains of the Earl and his Countess were discovered and were deposited temporarily beneath Gundred's tombstone.[14] In 1847 a Norman Revival chapel was erected by public subscription, adjoining the present vestry and chancel. Before the remains were reinterred in this chapel, both chests were opened to ascertain if there were any contents, which was found to be the case. New chests were made and used, and the ancient ones preserved and placed in two recessed arches in the southern wall. The Earl's chest has lost some lead. Gundred's chest remains in a good state of preservation. Across the upper part of the right arch is the name Gvndrada. Her tombstone is of black Tournai marble.[16]
Family
     "The children of William de Warenne and Gundred were:
** William II de Warenne (d. 11 May 1138), buried in Lewes Priory.[2][17]
** Reginald de Warenne, an adherent of Robert of Normandy.[2][13]
** Edith de Warenne, married first Gerard de Gournay, Lord of Gournay-en-Bray[18] and second Drew de Monchy.[2][13]

Controversy on parentage
     "Legends based in part on late Lewes Priory cartulary at an unknown age suggested Gundred was a daughter of William the Conqueror by his spouse Matilda of Flanders,[19] but this is not accepted by most modern historians.[20][21] The early-19th-century writer Thomas Stapleton had argued she was a daughter of Matilda born prior to her marriage to Duke William.[22] This theory sparked a debate consisting of a series of published papers. It culminated with those of Edmond Chester Waters and Edward Augustus Freeman, who argued the theories could not be supported.[23][24][b] Nonetheless, some genealogical and historical sources continue to make the assertion that she was the Conqueror's daughter.[25][26][27]
Notes
a. The reference here to late Lewes priory cartulary is to copies of charters that date centuries after the originals and specifically those which had been altered or forged to add the desired evidence she was the daughter of royalty. For more information on these forged charters see: English Historical Documents 1042-1189, ed. David C. Douglas, George W. Greenaway, Vol. II (Oxford University Press, New York, 1953), p. 605; L.C. Loyd, 'The Origin of the Family of Warenne' ‘’Yorks Archaeol. Journal’’, vol. xxxi, pp. 97-113; and C. T. Clay, ‘'Early Yorkshire Charters’’, vol. VIII (1949), pp. 59.-62.
b. For an extensive discussion regarding the participants in this nineteenth-century debate see: Victoria Chandler, 'Gundrada de Warenne and the Victorian Gentlemen-Scholars', Southern History, Vol. 12 (1990), pp. 68-81
References
1. G. E. Cokayne, The Complete Peerage, vol. xii/1 (The St. Catherine Press, London, 1953), p. 494
2. Early Yorkshire Charters, ed: William Farrer, Charles Travis Clay, Volume VIII - The Honour of Warenne (The Yorkshire Archaeological Society, 1949), pp. 40-46
3. F. Anderson, Uxor Mea: The First Wife of the First William of Warenne, Sussex archaeological collections, Vol. 130 (Sussex Archaeological Society, 1992) pp. 107-8
3. Elisabeth van Houts, 'Epitaph of Gundrada of Warenne', Nova de Veteribus, Mitel-und neulateinische Studien fur Paul Gerhard Schmidt (K.G. Saur, Munchen Leipzig, 2004), p. 372
5. P. Anselme de Sainte-Marie, Histoire de la maison royale de France et des grands officiers de la Couronne, V.6 (Estienne Loyson, 1674), p. 26
6. Ordericus Vitalis, The Ecclesiastical History of England and Normandy, Translated by Thomas Forester, Vol. ii, (Henry G. Bohn, London, MDCCCLIV (1854), p. 49
7. Hyde Abbey, Liber Monasterii de Hyda: Comprising a Chronicle of the affairs of England, (Longmans, Green, Reader, and Dyer, London, 1866), Introduction, p. xcvii. Note: the anonymous Hyde chronicler identified two of Gundred's brothers, Gerbod, Earl of Chester and Frederick.
8. Elisabeth van Houts, 'Frederick, Brother-in-Law of William of Warenne', Anglo-Saxon England, Vol. 28 (1999), pp. 218-220
9. Elisabeth van Houts, 'The Warenne View of the Past 1066-1203)', Anglo-Norman Studies XXIV, Proceedings of the Battle Conference 2003, Vol. 26 (The Boydell Press, Woodbridge, 2004), p. 104 & n. 8
10. Early Yorkshire Charters, ed: William Farrer, Charles Travis Clay, Volume VIII - The Honour of Warenne (The Yorkshire Archaeological Society, 1949), p. 4
11. B. Golding, 'The Coming of the Cluniacs', Anglo-Norman Studies III; Proceedings of the Battle Conference 1980, Vol. iii (Boydell Press, Woodbridge, 1981), pp. 65, 67
12. Early Yorkshire Charters, ed: William Farrer, Charles Travis Clay, Volume VIII - The Honour of Warenne (The Yorkshire Archaeological Society, 1949), pp. 50-55
13. G. E. Cokayne, The Complete Peerage, vol. xii/1 (The St. Catherine Press, London, 1953), p. 495 note (b)
14. Elisabeth van Houts, 'Epitaph of Gundrada of Warenne', Nova de Veteribus, Mitel-und neulateinische Studien fur Paul Gerhard Schmidt (K.G. Saur, Munchen Leipzig, 2004), p. 367
15. Thomas Walker Horsfield; Gideon Algernon Mantell (1824). The History and Antiquities of Lewes and Its Vicinity. J. Baxter. p. 116.
16. Elisabeth van Houts, 'Epitaph of Gundrada of Warenne', Nova de Veteribus, Mitel-und neulateinische Studien fur Paul Gerhard Schmidt (K.G. Saur, Munchen Leipzig, 2004), pp. 366,368-9
17. G. E. Cokayne, The Complete Peerage, vol. xii/1 (The St. Catherine Press, London, 1953), pp. 495-6
18. "A Database of Crusaders to the Holy LNd, 1095-1149".
19. George Floyd Duckett, 'Observations on the Parentage of Gundreda, Countess of Warenne', The Yorkshire Archaeological and Topographical Journal, Vol. ix, Part xxxiii, 1885, pp. 421-437 Note: Sir George Duckett, Bart., was the leading proponent of the theory that Gundred was the daughter of William the Conqueror and Matilda
20. G. E. Cokayne, The Complete Peerage, vol. xii/1 (The St. Catherine Press, London, 1953), p. 494 note (j)
21. David C. Doulgas, William the Conqueror (University of California Press, 1964), p. 392
22. Stapleton, Thomas, 'Observations in disproof of the pretended marriage of William de Warren, Earl of Surrey, with a daughter begotten of Matildis, daughter of Baldwin, Comte of Flanders, by William the Conqueror, and illustrative of the origin and early history of the family in Normandy', The Archaeological Journal 3 (1846):1-26 Note: despite the confusing title Stapleton's theory was that Gundred was a daughter of Matilda of Flanders by an earlier marriage.
23. Edmond Chester Waters, 'Gundrada de Warenne', The Archaeological Journal, Vol. xli (London, 1884), pp. 300-312
24. Edward A. Freeman, 'The Parentage of Gundrada, Wife of William of Warren', The English Historical Review, Vol. 3, No. 12 (October 1888), pp. 680-701
25. Colonial Families of the United States of America, ed. Nelson Osgood Rhoades, Vol. VII (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1966). pp. 319, 347
26. Rene Beckley, Ancient Walls of East Anglia (Terence Dalton, Ltd., Lavenham, Suffolk, 1979), p. 66
27. Charles Cooper, A village in Sussex: the history of Kingston-near-Lewes (I.B. Taurus, London, 2006), p. 44
Additional references
** Barlow, Frank, The Feudal Kingdom of England 1012 - 1216, London, 1955
** Cokayne, George Edward, The Complete Peerage, Vol. iv, p. 670 Chart:Surrey or Warenne before 1135…
** Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday People, a Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166 (The Boydell Press, Woodbridge, 1999), p. 480
** Moriarty, George Andrews, The Plantagenet Ancestry (Mormon Pioneer Genealogy Society, Salt Lake City, UT, 1985), p. 184
** Norgate, Kate (1890). "Gundrada de Warenne" . In Stephen, Leslie; Lee, Sidney (eds.) Dictionary of National Biography. 23. London: Smith, Elder & Co. p. 338.
** Schwennicke, Detlev, Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europaischen Staaten, Neue Folge, Band III Teilband 4, Das Feudale Frankreich und Sien Einfluss auf des Mittelalters (Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1989), Tafel 699
** Weis, Frederick Lewis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, ed: Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., William R. Beall, 5th Edition (Genealogical Publishing Co., 1999), Line 158-1
External links
** The Lewes Priory Trust Photo Gallery (copyrighted images): http://www.lewespriory.org.uk/photo_gallery
** The Gundrada Chapel, Southover Church, Lewes, East Sussex: https://web.archive.org/web/20130709233709/http://www.southover.org.uk/history/gundrada.htm
** Tomb of Gundred in 1787 The Gentleman's Magazine: https://books.google.com/books?id=ZaVJAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA380&lpg=PA380&dq=gundred+daughter+of+william+the+conqueror&source=bl&ots=zpGC429G9V&sig=juxp7CbG4ttftfIDTZU35nLJc-s&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2N34UK2-Jcqw0AGyrIEo&ved=0CFAQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false."10

Gundred/Gundrada (?)
Per Med Lands:
     "GUNDRED (-Castle Acre, Norfolk 27 May 1085, bur Lewes Priory). Orderic Vitalis records that King William I granted "Sutregiam" to "Guillelmo de Guarenna" who had married "Gundredam sororem Gherbodi"[8]. "Willelmus de Warenna…Surreie comes [et] Gundrada uxor mea" founded Lewes Priory as a cell of Cluny by charter dated 1080[9]. This charter also names "domine mee Matildis regine, matris uxoris mee", specifying that the Queen gave "mansionem quoque Carlentonam nomine" to Gundred. It is presumably on this basis that some secondary works claim, it appears incorrectly, that Gundred was the daughter of William I King of England. Weir asserts that the charter in question "has been proved spurious"[10], although it is not certain what other elements in the text indicate that this is likely to be the case. Assuming the charter is genuine, it is presumably possible that "matris" was intended in the context to indicate a quasi-maternal relationship, such as foster-mother or godmother. The same relationship is referred to in the charter dated to [1080/86] under which William I King of England donated property in Norfolk to Lewes priory, for the souls of “…Gulielmi de Warenna et uxoris suæ Gundfredæ filiæ meæ”[11]. Gundred died in childbirth. The necrology of Longpont records the death “VII Kal Jun” of “Gondreda comitissa”[12].
     "m (1070) as his first wife, WILLIAM [I] de Warenne, son of RAOUL de Warenne & his [first wife Beatrix ---] (-Lewes 24 Jun 1088, bur Lewes Priory). He was created Earl of Surrey in [late Apr] 1088. "
Med Lands cites:
[8] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber IV, VII, p. 221.
[9] Cluny, Tome IV, 3561, p. 689.
[10] Weir (2002), p. 45.
[11] Dugdale Monasticon VI.2, Covenham Priory, Lincolnshire, I, p. 993.
[12] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Prieuré de Longpont, p. 524.5


Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. page 59.
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. vol XII page 494.
3. The Ancestors of Sir William Mallory, of Studley and Hutton (d.1603), 2003, Reitwiesner, William Addams. 40841.3


Gundred/Gundrada (?)
NB: There is some confusion as to the father of Gundred:
     Genealogy.EU Normandy page and Racines et Histoire both show (as of 27 apr 2020) Gundred as the daughter of William I the Conqueror.
     Weis [MCS line 158-1] and Med Lands both say that she was the daughter of "Gherbod the Fleming".
     In 2002, the author of Genealogy.EU, Miroslav Marek, published on his website an email he had received clarifying the case for Gundred's parentage:
"E-mail from 26th December 2001:
     "On your website, you have:
     ""B1. [2m.] William I de Warenne, Seigneur de Varennes, created 1st Earl of Surrey, *Bellencombe, Seine Inferieure, France 1055, +Lewes, Sussex 24.5/6.1088; m.Normandy 1077 Gundred, dau.of William I "the Conqueror" (*Normandy ca 1063, +Acre Castle, Norfolk 27.5.1085)"

     "However, it is now known that Gundred was not William's daughter, nor that of his queen, Matilda. The tradition that she was seems to have sprung from two documents, both proven to be incorrect. The first is an obituary of Gundred, published 1444, more than three hundred years after her death. It reads:
     ""Lady Gundrade Countess of Surrey, daughter of the Conqueror and wife of William the first [Earl of Surrey], died in the pangs of childbirth (vi partus cruciata) at Castelacre 27 May 1085 and the 3rd year before her husband. She lies buried in the Chapterhouse of Lewes with her husband."
     "There are several noticeable problems here. The statement about Gundred's death seems to have been universally accepted, although it occurs in a document written three and a half centuries after the event, and immediately follows the statements that Gundred was William I's daughter (which everyone agrees she was not), and that she was Countess of Surrey (which she could not have been if she died in 1085). It appears Gundred actually survived William de Warrenne, as donations were made to monastaries from his wife for his soul. Moreoever, contemporary chronicler Orderic Vitalis specifically says she outlived him.
     "Gundred's epitaph calls her "the stock of dukes", which immediately implies that she was not the King's daughter. Why not call her "of a royal line" instead of a ducal one? A charter was sent to Lewes Priory by Queen Matilda, Gundred's reputed mother, in which Matilda is called "mother of King Henry and Countess Gundred". But it is obvious the "and Countess Gundred" is written in another hand, in different ink, at a later date. This charter has therefore been tampered with, and the original version did not call Gundred Matilda's daughter.
     "In 1109, Gundred's eldest son, William II de Warrenne, was engaged to marry the illegitimate daughter of King Henry, but a letter from Archbishop Anselm forced them to call off the marriage. Anselm cited consanguinity (marriage between persons too closely related) and specifically states William and the unnamed daughter to be related with "four and six degrees". Had Gundred been the Conqueror's daughter, she and Henry would've been siblings, and William and his fiancee first cousins. Surely Anselm would have made mention of such a close relationship, had it existed, and instead of prohibiting fouth cousins to marry, he would've forbidden first cousins to marry.
     "So who was Gundred, if not King William's daughter? Orderic Vitalis calls her sister of Gerbod, Earl of Chester. She seems to be of the family of Flemish lords of Oosterzele (her younger son, Reynold, inherited lands in Flanders from her) and may be descended from the Saxon dukes. But she was not the daughter of William the Conqueror.
Jessica Bonner nichol_storm@yahoo.com"

Conclusion: I believe that Gundred was the sister of Gerbod the Fleming. GA Vaut.1,11,12,5,13 GAV-25 EDV-24 GKJ-25.

Family

William I de Warenne 1st Earl of Surrey, 1st Earl of Warenne b. bt 1035 - 1040, d. 24 Jun 1088
Children

Citations

  1. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 158-1, p. 188. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#_Toc21106842. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gundred: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00015367&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Warenne page - de Warenne family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/warenne.html
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#GundredMWilliamWarenne
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#_Toc21106868
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Warenne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00015372&tree=LEO
  8. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 258-259, de WARENNE 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  9. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 27 April 2020), memorial page for Gundred, Countess of Surrey (1051–27 May 1085), Find a Grave Memorial no. 9360757, citing Lewes Priory, Lewes, Lewes District, East Sussex, England ; Maintained by Find A Grave, at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/9360757/gundred_countess_of_surrey. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  10. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gundred,_Countess_of_Surrey. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  11. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  12. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Ducs de Normandie, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Normandie.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  13. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 27 April 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Warenne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00015374&tree=LEO
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Edith|Gundred de Warenne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00015441&tree=LEO
  16. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#EdithWarenneM1GeraudGournayM2DreuxMoncea

Maud/Matilda de Bohun1,2,3

F, #4983, b. between 1230 and 1232, d. 20 October 1252
FatherHumphrey V de Bohun 2nd Earl of Hereford, Earl of Essex1,4,3,5,6 b. b 1208, d. 24 Sep 1275
MotherMahaut/Maud d'Eu de Lusignan1,7,5,3,6 b. c 1210, d. 14 Aug 1241
Last Edited20 Jul 2020
     Maud/Matilda de Bohun was born between 1230 and 1232 at England.8 She married Anselm Marshal Earl of Pembroke, son of William Marshal 1st Earl of Pembroke and Isabella de Clare Countess of Strigoil;
Her 1st husband.9,10,1,11,8,3,6,12,13 Maud/Matilda de Bohun married Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester, son of Saher IV de Quincy 1st Earl of Winchester and Margaret/Marguerite 'fitzPernel' de Beaumont, before 5 June 1250 at England;
His 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.14,9,15,2,16,17,3,6
Maud/Matilda de Bohun died on 20 October 1252 at Groby, Hinckley and Bosworth Borough, Leicestershire, England.9,3,2,6,5
Maud/Matilda de Bohun was buried after 20 October 1252 at St. Peter's Churchyard, Winchester, City of Winchester, co. Hampshire, England,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     unknown, England
     DEATH     20 Oct 1252, Groby, Hinckley and Bosworth Borough, Leicestershire, England
     Daughter of Humphrey de Bohun and Maud d'Exoudun d'Eu. Granddaughter of Henry de Bohun and Maud Fitz Geoffrey de Mandeville, Raoul I de Lusignan and Alice d'Eu. Wife of Anselm Marshal, Earl of Pembroke who died at Chepstow 22-24 Dec 1245. Secondly, she was the second wife of Sir Roger de Quincy, son of Sir Saher de Quincy and Maregaret de Beaumonst. They were married before 12 June 1250 and had no issue. After Maud's death, Roger married Eleanor de Ferrers.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Humphrey de Bohun 1208–1275
          Maud de Lusignan de Bohun 1214–1241
     Spouses
          Roger de Quincy 1200–1264 (m. 1250)
          Anselm Marshal 1208–1245
     Siblings
          Alice de Bohun Toeni unknown–1255
          Eleanor de Bohun Verdun
          Humphrey de Bohun 1225–1265
     BURIAL     St. Peter's Churchyard, Brackley, South Northamptonshire Borough, Northamptonshire, England
     Created by: Anne Shurtleff Stevens
     Added: 17 Jun 2013
     Find a Grave Memorial 112472094.6
     Reference: Genealogics cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 12:753.3

Maud/Matilda de Bohun and Anselm Marshal Earl of Pembroke
Per Med Lands:
     "MATILDA de Bohun (-Groby, Lincolnshire 20 Oct 1252, bur Brackley). The History of the foundation of Walden abbey names “Matilidis filia sua, Humfredus filius suus primogenitus, Henricus et Radulfus fratres eius” as children of “Humfridum de Bohun filium domini Henrici de Bohun comitis Herefordiæ” and his wife “Matildi”[547]. A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey names “Matildis..Alicia” as the first two of the four daughters of “Henricus [mistake for Humfredus] quintus de Bohun comes Hereford et Essex et constabularius Angliæ et dominus Henricus de Bohun” and his wife “Matildem filiam comitis de Ewe in Normannia”, adding that Matilda married “Ancelmo filio et hæredi Willielmi le Mareschall”[548]. A charter dated 19 Jan 1246 mandates the grant to "Matilda who was the wife of Anselm Marshall…[of] 60 librates of land in Ireland, for her maintenance until the king shall cause her dower to be assigned to her out of Anselm’s lands"[549].
     "m firstly ANSELM Marshal, son of WILLIAM Marshal Earl of Pembroke & his wife Isabel de Clare Ctss of Pembroke (-Chepstow [22/24] Dec 1245, bur Tintern Abbey). He succeeded his brother in 1245 as Earl of Pembroke.
     "m secondly (before 5 Jun 1250) as his second wife, ROGER de Quincy Earl of Winchester, son of SAHER de Quincy Earl of Winchester & his wife Margaret of Leicester (-25 Apr 1264, bur [Brackley])."
Med Lands cites:
[547] Dugdale Monasticon IV, Walden Abbey, Essex, I, Fundationis Historia, p. 139.
[548] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Lanthony Abbey, Gloucestershire, II, Fundatorum progenies, p. 135.
[549] Calendar of Documents Ireland, Vol. I, 2804, p. 419.6


Maud/Matilda de Bohun and Anselm Marshal Earl of Pembroke
Per Racines et Histoire (de Bohun): “Maud de Bohun ° ~1230/32
     ép. 1) Anseau (Anselme) Marshall ° ~1212 + 1245 6ème earl of Pembroke
     ép. 2) Roger de Quincy + 25/04/1264 2ème earl of Winchester ”.5

Maud/Matilda de Bohun and Anselm Marshal Earl of Pembroke
Per Genealogy.EU (de Bohun): “E2. Maud, +Groby 20.10.1252, bur Brackley; 1m: Anselm Marshall, Earl of Pembroke (+Chepstow 22.12.1245); 2m: 5.6.1250 Roger de Quincy, 2d Earl of Winchester (+25.4.1264)”.18

Maud/Matilda de Bohun and John Mowbray
Per Med Lands:
     "MATILDA de Bohun (-Groby, Lincolnshire 20 Oct 1252, bur Brackley). The History of the foundation of Walden abbey names “Matilidis filia sua, Humfredus filius suus primogenitus, Henricus et Radulfus fratres eius” as children of “Humfridum de Bohun filium domini Henrici de Bohun comitis Herefordiæ” and his wife “Matildi”[547]. A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey names “Matildis..Alicia” as the first two of the four daughters of “Henricus [mistake for Humfredus] quintus de Bohun comes Hereford et Essex et constabularius Angliæ et dominus Henricus de Bohun” and his wife “Matildem filiam comitis de Ewe in Normannia”, adding that Matilda married “Ancelmo filio et hæredi Willielmi le Mareschall”[548]. A charter dated 19 Jan 1246 mandates the grant to "Matilda who was the wife of Anselm Marshall…[of] 60 librates of land in Ireland, for her maintenance until the king shall cause her dower to be assigned to her out of Anselm’s lands"[549].
     "m firstly ANSELM Marshal, son of WILLIAM Marshal Earl of Pembroke & his wife Isabel de Clare Ctss of Pembroke (-Chepstow [22/24] Dec 1245, bur Tintern Abbey). He succeeded his brother in 1245 as Earl of Pembroke.
     "m secondly (before 5 Jun 1250) as his second wife, ROGER de Quincy Earl of Winchester, son of SAHER de Quincy Earl of Winchester & his wife Margaret of Leicester (-25 Apr 1264, bur [Brackley])."
Med Lands cites:
[547] Dugdale Monasticon IV, Walden Abbey, Essex, I, Fundationis Historia, p. 139.
[548] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Lanthony Abbey, Gloucestershire, II, Fundatorum progenies, p. 135.
[549] Calendar of Documents Ireland, Vol. I, 2804, p. 419.6

Maud/Matilda de Bohun was a witness to the Per Racines et Histoire (Quincy): “2) Roger de Quincy ° ~ 1195 (Buckley ou Winchester) + 25/04/1264 (Brackley, Ecosse ou Terre Sainte, croisé ?), 2ème earl of Winchester, Connétable d’Ecosse
     ép. 1) ~1228 (ou 1214 ?) Helen Nicalan of Galloway ° ~1200 (Carrick, Ecosse) + ~21/11/1245 (Brackley) (fille d’Alan Mac Donald, Lord of Galloway et de Ragnhild Reginaldsdottir (alias Hilda ou Helen de Lisle)
     ép. 2) Maud, comtesse de Pembroke ° ~1180 (Chester) + 1242/43 (fille d’Humphrey de Bohun et d’Alienor de Braose)
     ép. 3) Alienor Ferrers (fille de William et d’Agnès de Meschines) ” with Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester and Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway.17
Maud/Matilda de Bohun was a witness to the Per ODNB: "Roger himself married three times: first Helen, eldest daughter of Alan, lord of Galloway and constable of Scotland; second Maud, daughter of Humphrey (IV) de Bohun, earl of Hereford (d. 1275); and third Eleanor, daughter by his first marriage of William de Ferrers, earl of Derby, by whom he was survived." with Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester and Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway.19
Maud/Matilda de Bohun was a witness to the Per Med Lands:
     "ROGER de Quincy (-25 Apr 1264, bur [Brackley]). "Seyerus de Quinci comes Wintonie" donated revenue from "molendino meo de Locres" to St Andrew´s priory, with the consent of "Rogeri filii et heredis mei", by undated charter, dated to [1217/18], witnessed by "Rogero de Quinci herede meo, Simone de Quinci persona de Louchres, Patricio filio Nesii…Simonis de Quinci"[76]. "Rogerus de Quinci filius Seyeri comitis Wintonie" confirmed his father´s donation of a mill to St Andrew´s priory by undated charter, dated to [1217/18], witnessed by "Dño Seyero patre meo comite Wintonie, Symone de Quinci persona de Louchres, Patricio filio Nesii…Gilleberto clerico, Symonis de Quinci, Henrico clerico, Symonis de Quinci"[77]. He succeeded his father in 1219 as Earl of Winchester, but was not recognised as such until after his mother's death[78]. "Rogerius de Quinci" confirmed donations of land "in territorio de Gasc", where the men of "domini patris mei comitis Wintonie" pastured animals, to Inchaffray Abbey by charter dated to [1220], witnessed by "Gilberto comite de Stratherne, Roberto et Fergus filiis suis…"[79]. He succeeded his father-in-law in 1234 as hereditary Constable of Scotland, de iure uxoris. "Rogerus de Quency constabularius Scocie et Elena uxor eius filia quondam Alani de Galweya" recognised the rights of the church of Glasgow to "villam de Edeluestune" by undated charter[80]. "Rogerus de Quincy" donated "boscum nostrum de Gleddiswod" to Dryburgh monastery, for the souls of "nostre et Alyenore sponse mee et…Alani de Galwythya et Helene filie sue quondam sponse nostro", by undated charter[81]. John of Fordun´s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the death in 1264 of "Rogerus de Quinci comes Wincestriæ"[82]. An undated writ "48 Hen III", after the death of "Roger de Quency earl of Winchester", records that he died "on the day of St Mark the Evangelist" and names "Henry de Lascy aged 14 on the day of the Epiphany next, is his heir"[83]. Another writ dated 2 Nov "55 Hen III", after the death of "Roger de Quency alias de Quinsy sometime earl of Winchester", records further details about his landholdings[84]. His earldom reverted to the crown on his death.
     "m firstly ([before 1223]) ELLEN of Galloway, daughter of ALAN Lord of Galloway & his first wife --- de Lacy ([before 1205]-after 21 Nov 1245, bur Brackley). The Annales Londonienses name "Eleyn countesse de Wynton" as eldest of the three daughters of "la primere fille Davi" and "Aleyn de Gavei", naming "Margarete countesse de Ferreres et Eleyne la Zusche et la countesse de Bougham" as her three daughters[85]. Earl Roger's first marriage with the daughter of Alan of Galloway is recorded by Matthew Paris[86]. The Liber Pluscardensis records that the eldest daughter of "Alanus de Galway filius Rotholandi de Galway" married "Rogerus de Quinci comes Wintoniæ"[87]. The identity of Ellen’s mother as her father’s first wife is confirmed by her husband Roger de Quincy holding Kippax (linked to Alan’s first wife as shown above)[88]. Ellen’s birth and marriage dates are estimated from her daughter who married in [1238] having given birth soon after that marriage. "Elena quondam filia Alani de Galeweya" donated "villam de Edeluestune" to the church of Glasgow by undated charter[89]. "Rogerus de Quency constabularius Scocie et Elena uxor eius filia quondam Alani de Galweya" recognised the rights of the church of Glasgow to "villam de Edeluestune" by undated charter[90].
     "m secondly (before 5 Jun 1250) as her second husband, MATILDA de Bohun, widow of ANSELM Marshal Earl of Pembroke, daughter of HUMPHREY de Bohun Earl of Hereford and Essex & his wife Mathilde de Lusignan (-Groby, Lincolnshire 20 Oct 1252, bur Brackley80). A charter dated 19 Jan 1246 mandates the grant to "Matilda who was the wife of Anselm Marshall…[of] 60 librates of land in Ireland, for her maintenance until the king shall cause her dower to be assigned to her out of Anselm´s lands"[91]. Her death is recorded by Matthew Paris, who states that she was daughter of the Earl of Hereford but does not give her own name, that she was her husband's second wife[92].
     "m thirdly (before 5 Dec 1252) as her second husband, ELEANOR Ferrers, widow of WILLIAM de Vaux, daughter of WILLIAM de Ferrers Earl of Derby & his first wife Sibyl Marshal of Pembroke (-before 20 Oct 1274, bur Leeds Priory). The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire names "Agnes, secunda Isabella, tertia Matilda, quarta Sibilla, quinta Johanna, sexta Alianora, septima Agatha" as the seven daughters of "Willielmo de Ferrers comiti Derbiæ" and his wife "quarta filia…Willihelmi Marescalli…Sibilla", adding that "Alianora sexta filia" was "comitissa de Wintonia" and died childless[93]. A charter dated 26 May 1250 records the restoration of property, granted to "Margaret Countess of Lincoln", to "William de Vescy and Agnes his wife, Reginald de Moun and Isabel his wife, William de Fortibus and Matilda his wife, Francis de Boun and Sibil his wife, William de Vallibus and Alienor his wife, John de Moun and Joan his wife, Agatha de Ferrers in the king´s custody, Roger de Mortimer and Matilda his wife, and William de Cantilupe and Eva his wife"[94]. Her second marriage is confirmed by the Annals of Ireland which record that “Sibilla comitissa de Ferreys” had seven daughters (in order) “quinta, Elianora de Varis, quæ fuit uxor comitis Wintonie…”[95]. Matthew Paris records her husband's remarriage soon after the death of his second wife, but does not name his third wife[96]. "Rogerus de Quincy" donated "boscum nostrum de Gleddiswod" to Dryburgh monastery, for the souls of "nostre et Alyenore sponse mee et…Alani de Galwythya et Helene filie sue quondam sponse nostro", by undated charter[97]. She married thirdly (1267) as his second wife, Roger de Leyburn. King Edward I ordered the the escheator of Ireland to take all the lands of the deceased "Alianora widow of Roger de Quency earl of Winchester" into the hands of the king by charter dated 25 Oct 1274[98]."
Med Lands cites:
[76] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 255.
[77] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 256.
[78] CP XII/2 751.
[79] Inchaffray, XLII, p. 36.
[80] Glasgow Bishopric, Tome I, 168, p. 138.
[81] Dryburgh, 138, p. 99.
[82] Joannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. X, Cap. XVIII, p. 102.
[83] Inquisitions Post Mortem, Vol. I, Henry III (London), 587, p. 187.
[84] Inquisitions Post Mortem, Vol. I, Henry III, 776, p. 254.
[85] Annales Londonienses, p. 126.
[86] Matthew Paris, Vol. V, 1252, p. 341.
[87] Liber Pluscardensis, Vol. I, Liber VII, CX, p. 73.
[88] Stringer ‘A new wife for Alan of Galloway’ (1972), pp. 52-3.
[89] Glasgow Bishopric, Tome I, 167, p. 138.
[90] Glasgow Bishopric, Tome I, 168, p. 138.
[91] Calendar of Documents Ireland, Vol. I, 2804, p. 419.
[92] Matthew Paris, Vol. V, 1252, p. 341.
[93] Dugdale Monasticon V, Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire V, In Chronicis Abbatiæ Tynterne in Wallia, p. 271.
[94] Calendar of Documents Ireland, Vol. I, 3080, p. 459.
[95] Annals of Ireland, Vol. II, p. 314.
[96] Matthew Paris, Vol. V, 1252, p. 341.
[97] Dryburgh, 138, p. 99.
[98] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 32, p. 8.
with Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester and Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway.16

Maud/Matilda de Bohun and Anselm Marshal Earl of Pembroke
Per Med Lands:
     "ANSELM (-Chepstow [22/24] Dec 1245, bur Tintern Abbey[1346]). The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire, names (in order) ”Willihelmus, Richardus, Gilbertus, Walterus et Ancellimus” as sons of “Willielmi Marescalli comitis Penbrochiæ”, adding that each succeeded in turn as earl of Pembroke and died without children[1347]. He succeeded his brother in 1245 as Earl of Pembroke, hereditary Master Marshal. The Annales Cambriæ record the death in 1246 of "Anselmus Marescallus apud Striguil" and his burial "apud Tinternam"[1348].
     "m as her first husband, MATILDA de Bohun, daughter of HUMPHREY de Bohun Earl of Hereford and Essex & his wife Matilda de Mandeville (-Groby, Lincolnshire 20 Oct 1252, bur Brackley). A charter dated 19 Jan 1246 mandates the grant to "Matilda who was the wife of Anselm Marshall…[of] 60 librates of land in Ireland, for her maintenance until the king shall cause her dower to be assigned to her out of Anselm’s lands"[1349]. She married secondly ([Jan 1246/5 Jun 1250]) as his second wife, Roger de Quincy Earl of Winchester. "
Med Lands cites:
[1346] Matthew Paris, Vol. IV, 1245, p. 491.
[1347] Dugdale Monasticon V, Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire IV, In Chronicis Abbatiæ Tynterne in Wallia, p. 270.
[1348] Annales Cambriæ, p. 86.
[1349] Calendar of Documents Ireland, Vol. I, 2804, p. 419.13

Family 1

Anselm Marshal Earl of Pembroke b. c 1212, d. 23 Dec 1245

Family 2

Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester b. c 1200, d. 25 Apr 1264

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dromant, Abeyant, Forgeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 57. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille de Bohun, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bohun.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud de Bohun: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027702&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Humphrey de Bohun: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00015449&tree=LEO
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille de Bohun, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bohun.pdf
  6. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#MaudBohunM1AnselmMarshallPembroke. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud de Lusignan: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00015450&tree=LEO
  8. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bohun.pdf, p. 3.
  9. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 34-35, de BOHUN 4:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  10. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 149, MARSHAL 3:v.
  11. [S1896] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 22 June 2005: "Extended Pedigree of Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/44eb7V2WEXc/m/5ixO37yx3noJ) to e-mail address, 22 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 22 June 2005."
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anselme Marshal: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00315268&tree=LEO
  13. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#AnselmMarshalPembrokedied1245
  14. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 210-211, de QUINCY 4.
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Roger de Quincy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027689&tree=LEO
  16. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL2.htm#RogerQuincyWinchesterdied1264
  17. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille de Quincy - Cuinchy, Quinchy, Quincey, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Quincy.pdf
  18. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, de Bohun Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/bohun.html
  19. [S2286] Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, online http://oxforddnb.com/index/, https://www.oxforddnb.com/view/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-22966. Hereinafter cited as ODNB - Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.

Richard le Strange 7th Lord Strange of Knokyn, 3rd Lord Mohun1

M, #4984, b. 1 August 1381, d. 9 August 1449
FatherJohn le Strange 6th Lord Strange of Knokyn1 b. c 1352, d. 28 Jul 1397
MotherMaud de Mohun1 d. 20 Sep 1400
Last Edited2 Jan 2009
     Richard le Strange 7th Lord Strange of Knokyn, 3rd Lord Mohun was born on 1 August 1381.1 He married Joan (Constance) de Grey, daughter of (?) de Grey Lord de Grey (of Ruthin?), after 9 October 1408; his 1st wife.1,2 Richard le Strange 7th Lord Strange of Knokyn, 3rd Lord Mohun married Elizabeth de Cobham, daughter of Reginald/Reynold de Cobham 3rd Baron Cobham of Sterborough and Eleanor Colepepper, before 26 August 1439; his 2nd wife.3,4,5
Richard le Strange 7th Lord Strange of Knokyn, 3rd Lord Mohun died on 9 August 1449 at age 68.1
     He was 7th Lord (Baron) Strange (of Knokyn.)1 He was 3rd LORD (Baron) MOHUN.1

Richard le Strange 7th Lord Strange of Knokyn, 3rd Lord Mohun
RICHARD LESTRANGE, 7th Lord (Baron) Strange (of Knokyn) and through his mother 3rd LORD (Baron) MOHUN according to later doctrine, he having s to that title on the death sp 1431 of his mother's sis Philippe (m 1st Sir Walter FitzWalter, 4th Lord (Baron) FitzWalter (see FitzWALTER, B); m 2nd Sir John Golafre; m 3rd Edward, 1st Earl of Rutland of the 1390 cr (see RUTLAND, D) and 2nd Duke of York, gs of EDWARD III), last surv dau of his maternal gf 2nd Lord (Baron) Mohun (see above), when the notional abeyance (according to later doctrine) in the Barony of Mohun was terminated; b 1 Aug 1381; m 1st after 9 Oct 1408 Joan or Constance (dsp on or after 28 March 1438), allegedly dau of Lord De Grey (of Ruthin?); m 2nd by 26 Aug 1439 Elizabeth (d by 17 March 1453/4), allegedly est dau of Sir Reynold or Reginald (de) Cobham, putative 3rd (Baron) Lord Cobham (see BURGH, B), of Sterborough Castle, Kent, and d 9 Aug 1449.1

Family 1

Joan (Constance) de Grey d. 28 Mar 1438

Family 2

Elizabeth de Cobham d. b 17 Mar 1454
Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Saint Davids Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan or Constance Grey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00109346&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Saint Davids Family Page: "Joan or Constance (dsp on or after 28 March 1438), allegedly dau of Lord De Grey (of Ruthin?)."
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Cobham 11: p. 223. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Lloyd 13: pp. 454-455.

John de Courtenay Lord of Okehampton1

M, #4985, d. 3 May 1274
FatherSir Robert de Courtenay Lord of Okehampton b. c 1183, d. c 27 Jul 1242
MotherMary de Vernon (de Reviers) b. bt 1164 - 1203, d. bt 1197 - 1258
ReferenceGAV21 EDV22
Last Edited4 Sep 2008
     John de Courtenay Lord of Okehampton was born at Okehampton, Devonshire, England.2 He married Isabel de Vere, daughter of Hugh de Vere 4th Earl of Oxford and Hawise de Quincy; had issue.1,3
John de Courtenay Lord of Okehampton died on 3 May 1274 at Devonshire, England.2,1,3
     GAV-21 EDV-22 GKJ-24.

Family

Isabel de Vere d. a Feb 1298
Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 253-254, de VERE of Oxford 5:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S616] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 26 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 18, Ed. 1, Family #18-0770 (n.p.: Release date: March 27, 1998, unknown publish date).
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Doña Eleanor/Alianore (?) Infanta de Castilla, Cts de Pontheiu1,2,3

F, #4986, b. circa 1241, d. 28 November 1290
FatherSaint Ferdinand III (?) King of Castile & Leon4,5,1,2,3,6 b. Aug 1201, d. 30 May 1252
MotherJoanJeanne de Dammartin Countess of Ponthieu, Montreuil, and Aumale5,1,2,3,6 b. c 1216, d. 16 Mar 1279
ReferenceGAV19 EDV19
Last Edited15 Jul 2020
     Doña Eleanor/Alianore (?) Infanta de Castilla, Cts de Pontheiu was born circa 1241 at Castile, Spain (now).7,8,2,3 She was born in 1244 at Burgos, Provincia de Burgos, Castilla y León, Spain (now); Leo van de Pas says b. 1240/41.1,9,4,5 She married Edward I "Longshanks" (?) King of England, son of Henry III (?) of Winchester, King of England and Eleanor (?) Countess of Provence Queen of Eng., on 18 October 1254 at Burgos, Provincia de Burgos, Castilla y León, Spain (now).10,11,4,5,12,1,2,13,14,3,6
Doña Eleanor/Alianore (?) Infanta de Castilla, Cts de Pontheiu died on 28 November 1290 at Grantham, Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire, England.2,15,4,5,1,3,6
Doña Eleanor/Alianore (?) Infanta de Castilla, Cts de Pontheiu was buried on 17 December 1290 at Westminster Abbey, Westminster, City of Westminster, Greater London, England,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     10 Jan 1240, Burgos, Provincia de Burgos, Castilla y León, Spain
     DEATH     28 Nov 1290 (aged 50), Harby, Newark and Sherwood District, Nottinghamshire, England
     English Monarch. Queen consort of King Edward I "Longshanks". The daughter of Ferdinand III of Castile (St. Ferdinand) and Joan of Ponthieu, she was married to Edward in 1250. She was 9, Edward was 15. Although this was purely an arranged, political marriage, it developed into a strong love affair. The couple had 16 children, but only 4 reached adulthood. Eleanor accompanied Edward on crusade to the Holy Land from 1270 to 1272, during which time she is reported to have saved his life after he was wounded. They returned to England, and upon the death of King Henry III, were crowned in 1272. She died in Nottinghamshire while en route to Scotland to join Edward. So grieved was Edward at her death, he ordered a cross erected at each stop her funeral cortege made during the journey back to London. Of the 12 "Eleanor Crosses", three are still standing today. Bio by: Kristen Conrad
     Family Members
     Parents
          Ferdinand of Castile III 1201–1252
          Jeanne de Dammartin 1220–1279
     Spouse
          Edward I 1239–1307
     Siblings
          Juan de Castilla y León 1246–1246
     Half Siblings
          Alfonso X of Castile 1221–1284
          Berenguela de Castilla 1228–1279
          Enrique de Castilla y León 1230–1303
          Felipe de Castilla y León 1231–1274
          Sancho de Castilla 1233–1261
          Manuel de Castilla y León 1234–1283 (m. 1274)
     Maria de Castilla 1235–1235
     Children
          Katherine Plantagenet 1261–1264
          Plantagenet 1265–1265
          Plantagenet 1266–1271
          Henry Plantagenet 1267–1274
          Eleanor Plantagenet 1269–1298
          Joan of Acre 1272–1307
          Alfonso Plantagenet 1273–1284
          Margaret of England 1275–1318
          Berengaria Plantagenet 1276–1278
          Mary Plantagenet 1278–1332
          Isabella Plantagenet 1279–1279
          Elizabeth Plantagenet 1282–1316
          Edward II 1284–1327
          Thomas Plantagenet of Brotherton 1300–1338
          Edmund Plantagenet of Woodstock 1301–1330
          Eleanor Plantagenet 1306–1311
     BURIAL     Westminster Abbey, Westminster, City of Westminster, Greater London, England
     Maintained by: Find a Grave
     Originally Created by: Kristen Conrad
     Added: 27 Jan 2004
     Find a Grave Memorial 8327744.2,16
     Doña Eleanor/Alianore (?) Infanta de Castilla, Cts de Pontheiu and Edward I "Longshanks" (?) King of England
Per Racines et Histoire (Plantagenêts): “2) Edward 1er «Longshanks» d’Angleterre ° 17-18/06/1239 (Westminster) + 07-08/07/1307 (Burgh-on-Sands, Cumberland) earl of Chester (14/02/1254-24/12/1264), Lord of Ireland, croisé (24/06/1268, embarque 11/08/1270, retour 15/08/1272), Roi d’Angleterre (1272, couronné 19/08/1274 à Westminster), duc de Guyenne
     ép. 1) 18/10/1254 (Las Huelgas, Burgos) Leonor (Eleanor) de Castilla, comtesse de Ponthieu (1279) et de Montreuil ° ~1241 + 28/11/1290 (Harby, Nottinghamshire) (fille de Fernando III, roi de Castille, Leon, Galice, Tolède, Cordoue, Jaen et Séville, et de Jeanne de Dammartin, comtese de Ponthieu)
     ép. 2) 08/09/1299 (Canterbury, disp. 01/07/1298 pour degrés de consanguinité (du 2° au 4°) Marguerite de France, Reine d’Angleterre (1299-1307) ° 1279 ou 1282 ? + 14/02/1317/18 (Marlborough Castle, Londres) (fille de Philippe III «Le Hardi», Roi de France, et de Marie de Brabant-Lorraine)”.17

Doña Eleanor/Alianore (?) Infanta de Castilla, Cts de Pontheiu and Edward I "Longshanks" (?) King of England
Per Genealogy.EU (Anjou 3): “King EDWARD I "Longshanks" of England (1272-1307), *Westminster Palace 17.6.1239, +Burgh on the Sands, nr Carlisle 8.7.1307, bur Westminster Abbey; 1m: Burgos 18.10.1254 Leonor of Castile (*1240/41 +29.11.1290); 2m: Canterbury 8.9.1299 Marguerite de France (*1275/79 +14.2.1317)”.12
Doña Eleanor/Alianore (?) Infanta de Castilla, Cts de Pontheiu was a witness to the Per Med Lands:
     "EDWARD, son of HENRY III King of England & his wife Eléonore de Provence (Palace of Westminster 17 Jun 1239-Burgh-on-Sands, Cumberland 8 Jul 1307, bur Westminster Abbey). The Annals of Tewkesbury record the birth “XIV Kal Jul…Londoniæ apud Westmonasterium” of “filius…Eadwardus” to “regi Henrico Angliæ filio regis Johannis…de regina sua Alienora filia comitis de Provencia”[727]. The Continuator of Florence of Worcester records the birth "XIV Kal Jul" [1239] of "Edwardum filium suum primogenitum" to "Alienor regina Angliæ"[728]. Matthew Paris records that Edward was installed as Duke of Gascony in 1252, after the territory was subdued by Simon de Montfort[729]. Henry III King of England granted “totam terram Vasconie” to “Eudoardo primogenito filio nostro” by charter dated 8 Jun 1252[730]. He was created Earl of Chester 14 Feb 1254. Taken prisoner with his father at the battle of Lewes 14 May 1264 by the rebel barons under Simon de Montfort, he managed to escape 26 May. As a means of making peace, he delivered the earldom of Chester to Simon de Montfort 24 Dec 1264, though it was restored to Edward after the battle of Evesham 4 Aug 1265. He left England in summer 1270 intending to join Louis IX King of France in Tunisia. On learning of the king's death after arriving in Africa, Edward wintered in Sicily with King Charles and the following spring sailed for Palestine, landing at Acre 9 May 1271, but he had insufficient resources to make any headway against the Mameluk Sultan Baibars and signed a peace agreement with the Sultan at Caesarea 22 May 1272[731]. An attempt was made on his life 16 Jun 1272 when an Assassin stabbed him with a poisoned dagger, the after effects of which left Edward seriously ill for several months, and left Acre for England 22 Sep 1272[732]. He succeeded his father in 1272 as EDWARD I “Longshanks” King of England, when he was in Sicily returning from the Crusade. He arrived back in England in Aug 1274, and was crowned 19 Aug 1274 at Westminster Abbey. A strong king, he increased the power of the crown during his reign at the expense of the barons, probably setting the scene for the problems faced by his weaker son Edward II.
     "Betrothed (1247) to [MARIE] de Brabant, daughter of HENRI II Duke of Brabant & his first wife Maria von Staufen (-beheaded Donauwörth 1256, bur Donauwörth Heiliges Kreuz Stift). The betrothal of one of the daughters of Duke Henri II to Edward of England is recorded by Matthew Paris[733]. It is not certain that Marie was the daughter in question. However, she is the most likely candidate as her two older sisters were already married and her younger half-sister was only an infant at the time.
     "m firstly (Betrothed 1253, Burgos 18 Oct 1254) Infanta doña LEONOR de Castilla, daughter of FERNANDO III “el Santo” King of Castile & his second wife Jeanne de Dammartin-Ponthieu (1240-Harby, Nottinghamshire 29 Nov 1290, bur Westminster Abbey). The Annales Londonienses record the marriage "circa translationem beati Edwardi regis apud Boures" in 1254 of "Edwardus filius regis Henrici" and "Alienoram iuvenculam…sororem regis Hispanniæ"[734]. This marriage was first proposed in 1253 in connection with settlement of the Spanish claim to Gascony, according to Matthew Paris who refers to her as "sororem suam uterinani" in reference to "rex Hispaniæ" but does not give her name[735]. She accompanied her husband on crusade 1270/72. Crowned Queen 19 Aug 1274 at Westminster Abbey. She succeeded her mother in 1279 as Ctss de Ponthieu et de Montreuil. The Continuator of Florence of Worcester records the death "IV Kal Dec apud Herdeby in comitatu Lincolniensi" of "Alienora regina Angliæ domini regis consors"[736].
     "m secondly ([Betrothed 12 May 1299] contract Montreuil 19 Jun 1299, Canterbury Cathedral 8 or 9 Sep 1299) MARGUERITE de France, daughter of PHILIPPE III King of France & his second wife Marie de Brabant ([1277/83]-Marlborough Castle, Wiltshire 14 Feb 1318, bur Greyfriars Church, Newgate, London). The Chronicle of Guillaume de Nangis names "Ludovicum comitem Ebroiciæ civitatis, Margaretamque reginam Angliæ ac Blancham ducissam Austriæ" as the three children of King Philippe III and his second wife, recording in a later passage the marriage of Marguerite "apud Cantuariam" in 1299[737]. Edward I King of England appointed “Amadeum comitem Sabaudiæ consanguineum nostrum” as proxy for the marriages between “nos et Margaretam sororem...regis Franciæ...ac inter Edwardum filium nostrum et Isabellam...regis Franciæ filiam” by charter dated 12 May 1299[738]. The Annals of Worcester record the marriage “Sep…IV Id…in ecclesia Cantuarensi” in 1299 of “Edwardus rex” and “Margareta soror Philippi Regis Franciæ”[739]. A charter dated 27 Sep 1299 lists the dower assigned by King Edward to “Margaretam sororem...regis Franciæ” in England[740]. The Chronique Parisienne Anonyme de 1316 à 1339 records the death [in 1318] of “Marguerite roynne d’Engleterre, fille du roy Philippe...fame segonde au grant Edouart jadiz roy de Engleterre...”[741]. King Edward II issued a charter dated 18 Apr 1318 to “Thomæ comiti Norffolciæ et marescallo Angliæ et Edmundo de Wodestok fratribus nostris...executoribus testamenti bonæ memoriæ Margaretæ nuper reginæ Angliæ matris nostræ”[742]."
Med Lands cites:
[727] Annales de Theokesberia, p. 112.
[728] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, Continuatio, p. 177.
[729] Matthew Paris, Vol. V, 1252, pp. 313-5.
[730] Champollion Figeac (1843), Tome II, XXVII, p. 49.
[731] Runciman (1978), Vol. 3, pp. 335-7.
[732] Runciman (1978), Vol. 3, p. 338.
[733] Matthew Paris, Vol. IV, 1247, pp. 623 and 645.
[734] Annales Londonienses, p. 47.
[735] Matthew Paris, Vol. V, 1253, pp. 396-7, and 1255, p. 511, a betrothal ceremony.
[736] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, Continuatio, p. 244.
[737] RHGF XX, Chronicon Guillelmi de Nangiaco, pp. 571 and 581.
[738] Rymer (1740), Tome I, Pars III, p. 206.
[739] Annales de Wigornia, p. 542.
[740] Rymer (1740), Tome I, Pars III, p. 213.
[741] Mémoires de la Société de l’Histoire de Paris et de L’Ile-de-France, Tome XI (Paris, 1885) Chronique Parisienne Anonyme de 1316 à 1339, 15, p. 31.
[742] Rymer (1739), Tome II, Pars I, p. 149.
with Edward I "Longshanks" (?) King of England and Marie (?) of Brabant.14

Doña Eleanor/Alianore (?) Infanta de Castilla, Cts de Pontheiu
Per Christou gedcom: "Edward was very much in love with Eleanor and when she died her body was
brought to Westminster Abbey. At 12 places where the cortege stopped, Edward
erected a memorial."15,18,19,20

Doña Eleanor/Alianore (?) Infanta de Castilla, Cts de Pontheiu
This is the same person as:
”Eleanor of Castile” at Wikipedia and as
”Leonor de Castilla” at Wikipedia (ES.)21,22 GAV-19 EDV-19.

Doña Eleanor/Alianore (?) Infanta de Castilla, Cts de Pontheiu
Per Genealogics:
     “Eleanor was born about 1241, the daughter of Fernando III, king of Castile and León, and his second wife Jeanne de Dammartin, comtesse de Ponthieu. She was only ten when she married Edward of Westminster, who was fifteen, the eldest son and heir of Henry III, king of England. However, it seems the marriage was not consummated until she was about eighteen or nineteen. They had at least sixteen children of whom Edward II, their youngest, would succeed his father. Edward and three daughters would have progeny.
     “They remained together almost all their lives and even went on crusade together. A story has it that she sucked the poison from Edward's arm after an assassination attempt with a poisoned dagger in Palestine. Two of their children were born in the Holy Land.
     “While in Gascony in 1288 Eleanor contracted some sort of feverish illness. A letter written at that time describes her illness as a 'double quartan,' suggesting some kind of malaria. In 1290, Margaret of Scotland, 'The Maid of Norway', died and Edward I hurried north leaving Eleanor behind, as she was still weak. She followed Edward I at a much slower pace. When she reached Lincolnshire, she became feverish, and so she went to Herdeby near Grantham. A messenger was sent to Edward I who hurried back, but Eleanor had died there, 28 November 1290, before he could reach her.
     “Eleanor's body was taken back to London and, to express his grief, Edward erected crosses, twelve in all, wherever her body rested at night. Only three of the originals have survived at Geddington, Hardingstone and Waltham. Copies were created from those of Banbury and Charing Cross.”.3

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Eleanor of Castile 1241-1290, Legend and Reality through Seven Centuries, 1991, Parsons, John Carmi. & title Peter Stewart.
2. Eleanor of Castile: Queen and Society in Thirteenth-Century England, New York, 1995, Parsons, John Carmi.
3. Burke's Guide to the Royal Family, London, 1973. 97.3


Doña Eleanor/Alianore (?) Infanta de Castilla, Cts de Pontheiu and Edward I "Longshanks" (?) King of England
Per Med Lands:
     "Infanta doña LEONOR de Castilla y León (1240-Herdeby, Lincolnshire 29 Nov 1290, bur Westminster Abbey). The Annales Londonienses record the marriage "circa translationem beati Edwardi regis apud Boures" in 1254 of "Edwardus filius regis Henrici" and "Alienoram iuvenculam…sororem regis Hispanniæ"[1051]. This marriage was first proposed in 1253 in connection with settlement of the Spanish claim to Gascony, according to Matthew of Paris who refers to her as "sororem suam uterinani" in reference to "rex Hispaniæ" but does not give her name[1052]. She accompanied her husband on crusade 1270/72. Crowned Queen 19 Aug 1274 at Westminster Abbey. She succeeded her mother in 1279 as Ctss de Ponthieu, in place of her nephew Jean de Ponthieu Comte d'Aumâle, as the closer direct relation. The Continuator of Florence of Worcester records the death "IV Kal Dec apud Herdeby in comitatu Lincolniensi" of "Alienora regina Angliæ domini regis consors"[1053].
     "m (Burgos 18 Oct 1254) as his first wife, EDWARD Earl of Chester, son of HENRY III King of England & his wife Eléonore de Provence (Palace of Westminster 17/18 Jun 1239-Burgh-on-Sands, Cumberland 8 Jul 1307, bur Westminster Abbey). He succeeded his father in 1272 as EDWARD I “Longshanks” King of England."
Med Lands cites:
[1051] Annales Londonienses, p. 47.
[1052] Matthew Paris, Vol. V, 1253, pp. 396-7, and 1255, p. 511, a betrothal ceremony.
[1053] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, Continuatio, p. 244.6


Doña Eleanor/Alianore (?) Infanta de Castilla, Cts de Pontheiu and Edward I "Longshanks" (?) King of England
Per Genealogy.EU (Ivrea 6): “E13. [2m.] Infta Leonor, Cts de Ponthieu, *1240/41, +Herdeby, Lincs 28.11.1290; m.Burgos 1254 King Edward I of England (*1239 +1307)”.1

Family

Edward I "Longshanks" (?) King of England b. 17 Jun 1239, d. 7 Jul 1307
Children

Citations

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    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 1-28, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
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Marie/Jeanne (?) Countess de Ponthieu1,2,3

F, #4987, b. 17 April 1199, d. September 1250
FatherGuillaume III Talvas Cte de Ponthieu et de Montruil1,2,4,5 b. bt 1177 - 1179, d. 4 Oct 1221
MotherAlixAliceAlys (?) de France, Countess of Vexin, Comtesse d'Eu, Dame d'Arques1,6,2,3,5 b. 4 Oct 1160, d. bt 1218 - 1221
ReferenceGAV21 EDV21
Last Edited27 May 2020
     Marie/Jeanne (?) Countess de Ponthieu was born on 17 April 1199 at Aumale, Seine, France.7 She married Simon II de Dammartin Comte d'Aumale et de Ponthieu, son of AlbericAubrey II (?) Count of Dammartin and Matilda (Maud) de Clermont-en-Beauvais de Ponthieu & Dammartin, before September 1208.2,1 Marie/Jeanne (?) Countess de Ponthieu married Matthieu de Montmorency Cte de Ponthieu, son of Matthieu II de Montmorency Baron de Montmorency, Connetable de France and Gertrude (?) de Soissons, between 1 September 1240 and 15 December 1241.8,9,2
Marie/Jeanne (?) Countess de Ponthieu died in September 1250 at age 51.2,8
     Marie/Jeanne (?) Countess de Ponthieu
(an unknown value) at Ponthieu, France.10 GAV-21 EDV-21 GKJ-22.

Marie/Jeanne (?) Countess de Ponthieu
Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: III 113 - dates Peter Stewart.2 She was Countess of Ponthieu.10

Marie/Jeanne (?) Countess de Ponthieu
weis 109-29.1

Citations

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Sir Humphrey VI de Bohun Lord Bohun, châtelain de Winchester1,2,3

M, #4988, d. 27 October 1265
FatherHumphrey V de Bohun 2nd Earl of Hereford, Earl of Essex2,4,3 b. b 1208, d. 24 Sep 1275
MotherMahaut/Maud d'Eu de Lusignan2,5,3 b. c 1210, d. 14 Aug 1241
ReferenceGAV20 EDV21
Last Edited26 Dec 2013
     Sir Humphrey VI de Bohun Lord Bohun, châtelain de Winchester was buried at Combermere Abbey, England.6

He married Eleanor de Braiose of Huntington, Brecon, Wales, daughter of William de Braiose 6th Baron de Braiose and Eva (Eve) Marshal of Pembroke, before 15 February 1247.7,6,2,3 Sir Humphrey VI de Bohun Lord Bohun, châtelain de Winchester married Joan de Quincy, daughter of Robert III de Quincy Lord of Ware, of Colne Quincy, Essex and Elen ferch Llewellyn ab Iorwerth, circa 1260; his 2nd wife.6,8,9,3
Sir Humphrey VI de Bohun Lord Bohun, châtelain de Winchester died on 27 October 1265 at Beeston Castle, Cheshire, England.10,6
     GAV-20 EDV-21 GKJ-21.

Sir Humphrey VI de Bohun Lord Bohun, châtelain de Winchester
(an unknown value.)11

Sir Humphrey VI de Bohun Lord Bohun, châtelain de Winchester
"Humphrey, a very distinguished person amongst the rebellious barons, in the reign of Henry III. In the 47th of that monarch he was excommunicated, with Simon de Montfort, Earl of Leicester, and others, for plundering divers churches and committing sacrilege. He was afterwards one of the commanders at the battle of Lewes, where the king was made prisoner, and was constituted governor of Goodrich and Winchester Castles. In the year following he commanded the infantry at the battle of Evesham, where he fell into the hands of the royalists, and was sent prisoner to Beeston Castle in Cheshire, where he soon afterwards died. leaving issue, by his wife Eleanor, dau. and co-heir of William de Braose, of Brecknock, and co-heir of her mother Eve, one of the five daus. and co-heirs of William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke, Humphrey, who s. his grandfather."2

Sir Humphrey VI de Bohun Lord Bohun, châtelain de Winchester
taken prisoner at the battle of Evesham on 4 August 1265 at Evesham, Wychavon District, Worcestershire, England.6

Family 1

Child

Family 3

Joan de Quincy b. c 1245, d. 25 Nov 1283
Child

Citations

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  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margery de Bohun: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177623&tree=LEO
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Humphrey de Bohun: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00015452&tree=LEO
  15. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Ferrers 7: p. 307. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland1

M, #4989, b. circa 1175, d. 2 February 1324
FatherRoland Galloway Lord of Galloway2,3,1 b. c 1150, d. 19 Dec 1200
MotherElena de Morville of Lauder2,1 d. 11 Jun 1217
ReferenceGAV22 EDV22
Last Edited10 Aug 2020
     Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland married NN (?) de L'Isles, daughter of Ragnald (?) King of the Isles and Fonia (?) of Moray;
Possibly his 2nd wife.4 Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland was born circa 1175.1 He married (?) de Crevequor, daughter of Richard de Crevequor, before 1205;
Possibly his 1st wife.5,4 Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland married Margaret de Huntingdon Lady of Galloway, daughter of David (?) Earl of Huntingdon and Maud/Matilda (?) of Chester, Countess of Chester (suo jure), Countess of Huntingdon, in 1209 at Dundee, Scotland;
His 3rd wife.6,7,8,9,10,11,4,12,13 Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland married Juliana (?) before 30 March 1222;
His 4th wife.4 Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland and Juliana (?) were divorced between 1225 and 1229; Per Med Lands: "annulled for consanguinity/affinity [1225/29].4 Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland married Rohese/Rose de Lacy, daughter of Hugh de Lacy Earl of Ulster and Lesceline de Verdun, in 1229;
His 5th (?) wife.9,7,4
Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland was buried in 1234 at Abbey of Dundrennan, Galloway, Scotland.7,14


Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland died on 2 February 1324.9,7,10,1
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald. 155; yr of birth Douglas Richardson.
2. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America bef.1700, 7th Edition, 1992, Weis, Frederick Lewis. 42.
3. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. V 604.
4. The Scots Peerage 1904-1914, nine volumes , Paul, Sir James Balfour. IV 141.
5. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 101.1
GAV-22 EDV-22.

Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland
Per Genealogics:
     “Alan FitzRoland, lord of Galloway, constable of Scotland, was born about 1175, the son of Roland, lord of Galloway, constable of Scotland, and Elena de Moreville. He was the last of the MacFergus dynasty of quasi-independent lords of Galloway. He was also hereditary constable of Scotland. In right of his mother, Alan inherited the de Moreville lordship of Lauderdale, as well as others in that vicinity.
     “Alan married at least three times. By an unnamed wife, given in one source as Hilda (Helen) de L'Isle, he had a daughter Helen who would have progeny, marrying Roger de Quincy, 2nd earl of Winchester. In 1209 he married Margaret of Huntingdon, daughter of David, earl of Huntingdon, and Maud of Chester. They were reprimanded for marrying within the forbidden limits of kinship and had to obtain a dispensation by Pope Innocent III, but then they had at least three children of whom Devorguilla would have progeny, marrying John Baliol of Bywell. In 1229 he married Rohese de Lacy, daughter of Hugh de Lacy, earl of Ulster, and Lesceline de Verdun. No progeny is recorded from this marriage. Alan also had an illegitimate son Thomas.
     “In 1212 Alan responded to a summons from King John of England by sending 1,000 troops to join the war against the Welsh. In this year he also sent one of his daughters to England as a hostage. She died in 1213 in the custody of her maternal uncle. Alan is also listed as one of the 16 men who counselled King John regarding the Magna Carta. Alan, like his forebears, maintained a carefully ambiguous relationship with both the English and Scottish states, acting as a vassal when it suited his purpose and as an independent ruler when he could get away with it. His considerable sea power allowed him to supply fleets and armies to aid the English King John in campaigns both in France and Ireland.
     “In 1228 he invaded the Isle of Man and fought a sea-war against Norway, in support of Reginald IV, king of Man, who was engaged in a fratricidal struggle with his half-brother Olaf II for possession of the Island.
     “Alan died in 1234 and is buried in Dundrennan Abbey in Galloway. With Alan's death his holdings were divided between his three daughters and their husbands. A popular attempt was made within Galloway to establish his illegitimate son Thomas as ruler, but this failed, and Galloway's period as an independent political entity came to an end.”.1

Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland
This is the same person as ”Alan of Galloway” at Wikipedia.15

Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland
This is the same person as ”Alan, lord of Galloway” at the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.16

Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland
This is the same person as ”Alan, lord of Galloway (d.1234)” at People of Medieval Scotland 1093-1371.


Per POMS:
BIOGRAPHY     Alan was the eldest son of Roland, lord of Galloway (d.1200), and Helen de Morville (d.1217). He was married three times: first, to a daughter of Roger de Lacy, constable of Chester, which produced a daughter, Helen, who married Roger de Quincy, earl of Winchester (d.1264); second, to Margaret, eldest daughter of David, earl of Huntingdon, which produced two daughters: Christiana (who married William de Forz) and Dervorguilla (who married John (I) Balliol); third, to Rose, daughter of Hugh de Lacy, earl of Ulster, which produced no offspring. Alan also had an illegitimate son, Thomas. He died around 2 February 1234 and is buried in Dundrennan Abbey in Galloway. R.D. Oram, 'Alan, lord of Galloway', ODNB, i, 556-7; [http://www.oxforddnb.com/view/article/49362]
FLORUITS     1194 × 1230
“.17 Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland was also known as Alan Lord of Galloway.18,7

Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland and Margaret de Huntingdon Lady of Galloway
Per Weis: "Alan, Lord of Galloway, named in the Magna Charta, Constable of Scotland, 1215-1234, d. 1234, m. (1) said to be a dau. of Reginald, Lord of the Isles; m. (2) 1209, Margaret of Huntingdon (94-27); m. (3) 1228, a dau. of Hugh de Lacy, Earl of Ulster (died 1243) by his 1st wife, Lesceline, dau of Bertran de Verdun (Orpen, Ireland under the Normans III chart p. 286) or daul. or sister of roger de Lacy of Pontefract (Trans. of the Dunfrieshire & Galloway Nat. Hist. Soc., 49:49-55); (SP IV: 138:143; CP IV: 670 chart; Jacobus, Bulkeley, 12).”.19

Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland and (?) de Crevequor
Per Med Lands:
     "ALAN of Galloway, son of ROLAND Lord of Galloway & his wife Helen de Moreville (-[2] Feb 1234, bur Dundraynan[1170]). He succeeded his father in 1200 as Lord of Galloway. "Alanus filius Rollandi de Galwythia" donated "partem terre in territorio de Gillebeccokestun…de Widhope" to Melrose abbey, for the souls of "Ricardi de Morevill avi mei et Willemi avunculi mei, Rollandi patris mei et…mea et Helene matris mee", by undated charter[1171]. "Alanus filius Rolandi dominus Galwath[ie] et Scocie constabularius" donated annual revenue to St Bees by undated charter, witnessed by "Alano filio Ketelli, Alano de Camerton, Gilberto filio Gospatrici…"[1172]. "Thomas de Colevilla cognomento Scot" donated "quartam partam de Almelidum…Keresban" to Melrose abbey by undated charter witnessed by "…Alano filio Rolandi de Galewai, Fergus filio Uctredi, Edgaro filio Douenad, Dunkano filio Gilbti comite de Carric…"[1173]. "Alanus fili Rolandi de Galweia constabularius dni regis Scottorum" donated property "in Ulkelyston" to Kelso monastery, for the souls of "patris mei Rolandi, avi mei Huhtredi", by charter dated to [1206][1174]. The Annals of Dunstable record that “dominus Galwinæ” died in 1235[1175]. The Liber Pluscardensis records the death in [1234] of "Alanus de Galway filius Rotholandi de Galway…qui…fuit constabilarius Scociæ" and his burial "apud Dundranan"[1176]. The Chronicle of Lanercost records the death "circa purificacionem beatæ Virginis" [2 Feb] in 1233 of "Alanus dominus Galwydiæ"[1177]. On his death Galway was divided between his daughters, but the people of Galway invited Alexander II King of Scotland to become their sole lord but he refused. The king finally defeated the insurgents after Jul 1235[1178].
     "m firstly (before [19 Dec 1200/1206]) --- de Lacy, daughter of ROGER de Lacy Constable of Chester & his wife Matilda de Clare (-[1201/06]). Keith Stringer says that "one of the daughters of Roger de Lacy was evidently Alan’s first wife" and that "the manor of Kippax" was her dowry, quoting a charter, dated to [19 Dec 1200/1206], under which "Alanus filius Rollandi, dominus Galuuaith Scotie constabularius…et heredibus meis" gave quitclaim to "Rogero de Lascy Cestrie constabularius et heredibus suis" for "advocationem ecclesie de Kipeis"[1179]. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the following document: the Curia Regis rolls record in 1214 “John [de Lacy] de warrantia carte de terra de Kippes...should warrant the charters of his father Roger which Alan [de Galloway]...has concerning the maritagium of his sister”[1180].
     "[m [secondly] --- [of the Isles, daughter of REGINALD Lord of the Isles & his wife Fonie ---] (-before 1209). Balfour Paul says that Alan Lord of Galloway married first "a lady unknown, said to be a daughter of Reginald Lord of the Isles by whom he had two daughters"[1181]. He cites Chalmers’s Caledonia, but that says only that “the name of the first [wife] is unknown” without providing any indication of her family origin[1182]. Balfour Paul repeats his suggestion under the Lords of the Isles where he notes a daughter of Reginald Lord of the Isles "said to have married Alan of Galloway", without citing any source[1183]. There is no indication of the basis for Balfour Paul’s statements and no primary source which confirms this person’s parentage and marriage has been identified. Her existence should presumably be treated with caution until some such source emerges. If she did marry Alan, she was not the mother of his daughter Ellen shown below. She was either married before his marriage to “--- de Lacy” or before he married Margaret of Huntingdon: she is shown here, for presentational purposes only, as Alan’s possible second wife.]
     "m [thirdly] (Dundee 1209) MARGARET of Huntingdon, daughter of DAVID of Scotland Earl of Huntingdon & his wife Matilda of Chester ([1194]-[after 6 Jan 1233]). The Chronicle of Melrose records the marriage in 1209 of "Alan FitzRoland" and "the daughter of earl David, the brother of the king of Scotland"[1184]. The Annales Londonienses name "Margaretam, Isabellam, Matildam, et Aldam" as the four daughters of "comiti David", recording the marriage of "la primere fille Davi" and "Aleyn de Gavei"[1185]. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the marriage in 1208 "apud Dunde" of "Alanus magnus de Galweyia, filius Rotholandi" and "Margaretam filiam David comitis de Huntingtona"[1186]. The primary source which confirms her appearance in Jan 1233 has not been identified. The date is inconsistent with Alan’s subsequent marital history, unless his marriage to Margaret was dissolved.
     "m [fourthly] (before 30 Mar 1222, annulled for consanguinity/affinity [1225/29]) JULIANA, daughter of ---. Her husband challenged the validity of this marriage on grounds of consanguinity/affinity. The family relationship between the couple has not been ascertained. Pope Honorius III mandated the archbishop of York and others that “Alan constable of Scotland was of such close kindred and affinity to his wife that they could not cohabit without mortal sin”, and to refer the case to the Papal legate, dated 30 Apr 1222[1187]. Pope Honorius III wrote to the archbishop of Canterbury 28 Feb 1225 requesting him “to proceed to a decision of a suit relating to the alleged marriage of Alan knight and Juliana heard before the abbot of Bruern”, recording details of the proceedings including the appearance of the wife before the Pope who doubted “whether the acts and attestations she brought with her were true”, and ordered “the archbishop, if the said knight will not be induced to treat the woman as his wife, to have the original acts produced and decide the matter”[1188]. Anderson suggests that "Juliana seems to have lost the case"[1189].
     "m [fifthly] ([1228/29]) ROSE de Lacy, daughter of HUGH de Lacy & [his first wife Lesceline de Verdun] (-after 1237). According to Matthew Paris, the wife of Alan of Galloway "iam defunctus" was the (unnamed) daughter of "Hugonem de Lasey"[1190]. The Chronicle of Lanercost records in 1229 that "Alan the lord of Galloway…set out for Ireland and there married the daughter of Hugh de Lacy"[1191]. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records that "Alanus de Galweia profectus in Hiberniam" married "filiam Hugonis de Lacy" in 1228[1192]. If her parentage and marriage is correctly stated in the two sources quoted, the chronology suggests that this daughter must have been born from Hugh’s first marriage, assuming that she was legitimate. She is named "Rose de Lacy" by Keith Stringer, who cites a charter of St Bees which indicates that she was still alive in 1237[1193]."
Med Lands cites:
[1170] Chronicle of Melrose, 1234, p. 60.
[1171] Melrose Liber, Tome I, 83, p. 72.
[1172] St Bees, 42, p. 71.
[1173] Melrose Liber, Tome I, 192, p. 172.
[1174] Kelso, Tome I, 245, p. 201.
[1175] Annales de Dunstaplia, p. 143.
[1176] Liber Pluscardensis, Vol. I, Liber VII, CX, p. 73.
[1177] Lanercost Chronicle, 1233, p. 42.
[1178] Chronicle of Melrose, 1234 and 1235, pp. 60-1.
[1179] Stringer, K. J. ‘Periphery and Core in Thirteenth Century Scotland: Alan son of Roland, Lord of Galloway and Constable of Scotland’, Grant, A. & Stringer, K. J. (eds.) (1998) Medieval Scotland, Crown, Lordship and Community (Edinburgh U.P.), p. 104.
[1180] Stringer, K. J. ‘A new wife for Alan of Galloway’, Transactions of the Dumfriesshire and Galloway Natural History and Antiquarian Society, 3rd Series, Vol. XLIX (Dumfries, 1972), p. 51, citing Curia Regis Rolls, Vol. VII (1935). I am grateful to David M. Lawrence for sending a copy of this article.
[1181] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. IV, Galloway, p. 141.
[1182] Chalmers, G. (1890) Caledonia, Vol. V (Paisley), p. 258.
[1183] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. V, Macdonald, Lord of the Isles, p. 32.
[1184] Chronicle of Melrose, 1209, p. 33.
[1185] Annales Londonienses, p. 126.
[1186] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. I, Lib. VIII, Cap. LXVIII, p. 523.
[1187] Bliss, W. H. (1893) Calendar of entries in the Papal registers relating to Great Britain and Ireland (London), Vol. I, p. 87.
[1188] Bliss (1893), Vol. I, p. 101.
[1189] Anderson Early Sources, Vol. II, p. 468.
[1190] Matthew Paris, Vol. III, 1236, p. 364.
[1191] Chronicle of Lanercost, p. 40, quoted in Anderson Early Sources, Vol. II, p. 467.
[1192] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. IX, Cap. XLVII, p. 58.
[1193] Stringer ‘Periphery and Core: Alan of Galloway’, p. 96, citing Register of St Bees, 5, p. x.20


Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland and (?) de Crevequor
per Bradford email:
     "Fellow Genealogists,
     "The following correction to Douglas Richardson's _Magna Charta ancestry_ [Boston: GPC, 2004], p. 685, updates the identification of Alan Fitz Roland of Galloway's 1st wife, and as a consequence will undoubtedly change many people's GEDCOMs. In the aforementioned work, Mr. Richardson says the following about Alan Fitz Roland's 1st wife:
"_____, daughter of John Fitz Richard, of Pontefract, Yorkshire, hereditary Constable of Chester"

     "This statement, when corrected in the text, should read:
"_____, daughter of Richard de Crevequor."

     "In his post to SGM under date of 13 Sep. 2002, Mr. Richardson gives as the source for his statement the _Curia Regis Rolls_, 7 (1935): 85-86 ("suit by Alan of Galloway re: Kippax, co. York which he had in marriage with the aunt of John [de Lacy] [brackets are Mr. Richardson's], constable of Chester)."
     "I have a copy of this document in my possession, dated 1214 CE, which reads as follows:
Cumb’.—Willelmus de Jonesbi Alanus de Camberton’ Adam de Hocton’, tres milites de comitatu Cumberland’ missi ad Carleolum in occursum Elene de Morevill’ et Alani de Galweia filii ejus ad videndum quem atornatum ipsa Elena facere voluisset etc. in loquela que est inter ipsam et abbatem de Londores de advocatione ecclesie de Wissenden’ in comitatu Roteland’ et ad videndum quem atornatum idem Alanus facere voluerit etc. in loquela que est inter ipsum et Johannem de Cestr’ de warantia carte de terra de Kippes in comitatu Ebor’, dicunt quod Elena point loco suo Adam de Torinton’ vel Hamonem Clericum versus abbatem de Londor’ de placito ecclesie de Wissenden’ in comitatu Roteland’. Dicunt etiam quod Alanus de Galweye posuit etc. eundem Hamonem Clericum vel Ricardum de Crevequor versus Johannem de Cestr’ de placito warantie carte de terra in Kipesc in comitatu Ebor’. Et dictum est illis tribus militibus quod eant sine die. Et quoniam Willelmus de Percy quartus miles non venit, qui! debuit testificasse simul cum ipsis atornatos predictorum, consideratum est quod atachietur quod sit a die Pasche in tres septimanas. Post venit Willelmus de Percy et dixit idem.

     "The above document shows Richard de Crevequor acting together in a suit with his son-in-law, John of Chester [not to be confused with the constable, as see below]
     "As proof of the relationship of Alan Fitz Roland de Galloway [Galweye] to his father-in-law, Richard de Crevequor, there is a maritagium suit in the same source [_Curia Regis Rolls_], further down on p. 86, under date of 1214 CE, which reads:
Ebor’.—Alanus de Galweye per predictos Hamonem Clericum et Ricardum de Crevequor optulit se quarto die versus Johannem de Cestr’ de placito quod idem Johannes warantizet cartas Ricardi patris sui quas Alanus de Galweye habet de maritagio sororis sue: et ipse non venit vel se essoniavit etc., et summonitio etc. Et ideo atachietur quod sit ad predictum terminum etc.

     "The above document reads:
Yorks.--Through the agency of the aforesaid Hamon the Clerk and Richard of Crevequor, Alan of Galweye [Galloway] acted on the fourth day against John of Chester concerning the plea that the same John guarantees the documents of Richard his father which Alan of Galway has concerning the marriage of his sister: he himself did not appear or give an excuse for his non-appearance, and a summons (was issued). For that reason an attachment was made with a fixed expiry.

     "In the above suit, the actual relationships between these parties are spelled out in clear detail. Alan Fitz Richard de Galloway's wife was a sister of one John of Chester, whose father was Richard de Crevequor. Attempting to match John [de Lacy], constable of Chester, with the John of the maritagium, turns out to be a chronological non sequitur: John de Lacy, hereditary Constable of Chester, died in 1190; his father, Richard Fitz Eustace, died in 1163. The suits in question date from the 1st part of the 13th c.
     "Elsewhere in SGM [13 Sept. 2002], Mr. Richardson claims that Alan of Galloway "was actually known in his lifetime as Alan Fitz Roland." This is only partially correct. The two suits I have quoted here show that he was also referred to as "Alan of Galloway."
     "In light of these suits, the statement in the Scots Peerage that Alan's 1st wife was "said to be a daughter of Reginald, Lord of the Isles" [SP 4:141], can be effectively disregarded.
     "All the best, Kevin
     "Plantagenet Genealogy & Biography: http://home.earthlink.net/~plantagenet60/plantagenet01.htm."5

Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland and Margaret de Huntingdon Lady of Galloway
Per Med Lands:
     "MARGARET ([1194]-[after 6 Jan 1233]). The Chronicle of Melrose records the marriage in 1209 of "Alan FitzRoland" and "the daughter of earl David, the brother of the king of Scotland"[496]. The Annales Londonienses name "Margaretam, Isabellam, Matildam, et Aldam" as the four daughters of "comiti David", recording the marriage of "la primere fille Davi" and "Aleyn de Gavei"[497]. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the marriage in 1208 "apud Dunde" of "Alanus magnus de Galweyia, filius Rotholandi" and "Margaretam filiam David comitis de Huntingtona"[498]. The primary source which confirms her appearance in Jan 1233 has not been identified. The date is inconsistent with Alan’s subsequent marital history, unless his marriage to Margaret was dissolved.
     "m (Dundee 1209) as his [third] wife, ALAN Lord of Galloway, son of ROLAND Lord of Galloway & his wife Helen de Moreville (-[2] Feb 1234, bur Dundraynan). Constable of Scotland."
Med Lands cites:
[496] Chronicle of Melrose, 1209, p. 33.
[497] Annales Londonienses, p. 126.
[498] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. I, Lib. VIII, Cap. LXVIII, p. 523.13


Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland and Margaret de Huntingdon Lady of Galloway
Per Genealogy.EU (Dunkeld): “Margaret, *ca 1194, +1228; m.1209 Alan, Lord of Galloway (+1234), whose issue sprung the senior competitors to the Scottish throne after 1286”.21

Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland and Margaret de Huntingdon Lady of Galloway
Per Weis: "Margaret of Huntingdon, d. abt. 6 Jan. 1233; m. Alan (38-26), Lord of Galloway, d. 1234, hereditary Constable of Scotland. (CP IV; 670 chart IV, V: 675, VII: 646-647; SP I: 4,7, IV: 142-143; ES II/90).”.22 Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland was Lored of Galloway
See attached map of Galloway (from Wikipedia: By Brianann MacAmhlaidh - Own work. I used the following files to create this image: File:Dumfries_and_Galloway_UK_location_map.svg by User:Nilfanion., CC BY-SA 4.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=43164050) between 1200 and 1234.15,23 He was Hereditary Constable of Scotland between 1215 and 1234.6,9,7
Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland was a witness to the signed Magna Carta. For More information see entry on Wikipedia.
Counsellors named in Magna Carta
     "The preamble to Magna Carta includes the names of the following 27 ecclesiastical and secular magnates who had counselled John to accept its terms. The names include some of the moderate reformers, notably Archbishop Stephen Langton, and some of John's loyal supporters, such as William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke. They are listed here in the order in which they appear in the charter itself:[62]
1. Stephen Langton, Archbishop of Canterbury and Cardinal
2. Henry de Loundres, Archbishop of Dublin
3. William of Sainte-Mère-Église, Bishop of London
4. Peter des Roches, Bishop of Winchester
5. Jocelin of Wells, Bishop of Bath and Glastonbury
6. Hugh of Wells, Bishop of Lincoln
7. Walter de Gray, Bishop of Worcester
8. William de Cornhill, Bishop of Coventry
9. Benedict of Sausetun, Bishop of Rochester
10. Pandulf Verraccio, subdeacon and papal legate to England
11. Eymeric, Master of the Knights Templar in England
12. William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke
13. William Longespée, Earl of Salisbury
14. William de Warenne, Earl of Surrey
15. William d'Aubigny, Earl of Arundel
16. Alan of Galloway, Constable of Scotland
17. Warin FitzGerold
18. Peter FitzHerbert
19 Hubert de Burgh, Seneschal of Poitou
20. Hugh de Neville
21. Matthew FitzHerbert
22. Thomas Basset
23. Alan Basset
24. Philip d'Aubigny
25. Robert of Ropsley
26. John Marshal
27. John FitzHugh

The Council of Twenty-Five Barons
     "The names of the Twenty-Five Barons appointed under clause 61 to monitor John's future conduct are not given in the charter itself, but do appear in four early sources, all seemingly based on a contemporary listing: a late 13th-century collection of law tracts and statutes, a Reading Abbey manuscript now in Lambeth Palace Library, and the Chronica Majora and Liber Additamentorum of Matthew Paris.[63][64][65] The process of appointment is not known, but the names were drawn almost exclusively from among John's more active opponents.[66] They are listed here in the order in which they appear in the original sources:
1. Richard de Clare, Earl of Hertford
2. William de Forz, Earl of Albemarle
3. Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex and Gloucester
4. Saer de Quincy, Earl of Winchester
5. Henry de Bohun, Earl of Hereford
6. Roger Bigod, Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk
7. Robert de Vere, Earl of Oxford
8. William Marshal junior
9. Robert Fitzwalter, baron of Little Dunmow
10. Gilbert de Clare, heir to the earldom of Hertford
11. Eustace de Vesci, Lord of Alnwick Castle
12. Hugh Bigod, heir to the Earldoms of Norfolk and Suffolk
13. William de Mowbray, Lord of Axholme Castle
14. William Hardell, Mayor of the City of London
15. William de Lanvallei, Lord of Walkern
16. Robert de Ros, Baron of Helmsley
17. John de Lacy, Constable of Chester and Lord of Pontefract Castle
18. Richard de Percy
19. John FitzRobert de Clavering, Lord of Warkworth Castle
20. William Malet
21. Geoffrey de Saye
22. Roger de Montbegon, Lord of Hornby Castle, Lancashire[f]
23. William of Huntingfield, Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk
24. Richard de Montfichet
25. William d'Aubigny, Lord of Belvoir

Excommunicated rebels
     "In September 1215, the papal commissioners in England – Subdeacon Pandulf, Peter des Roches, Bishop of Winchester, and Simon, Abbot of Reading – excommunicated the rebels, acting on instructions earlier received from Rome. A letter sent by the commissioners from Dover on 5 September to Archbishop Langton explicitly names nine senior rebel barons (all members of the Council of Twenty-Five), and six clerics numbered among the rebel ranks:[67]
Barons
1. Robert Fitzwalter
2. Saer de Quincy, Earl of Winchester
3. Richard de Clare, Earl of Hertford
4. Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex and Gloucester
5. Eustace de Vesci
6. Richard de Percy
7. John de Lacy, Constable of Chester
8. William d'Aubigny
9. William de Mowbray
Clerics
10. Giles de Braose, Bishop of Hereford
11. William, Archdeacon of Hereford
12. Alexander the clerk [possibly Alexander of St Albans]
13. Osbert de Samara
14. John de Fereby
15. Robert, chaplain to Robert Fitzwalter with John I Lackland (?) King of England on 15 June 1215.24

Family 3

(?) de Crevequor
Child

Family 4

Margaret de Huntingdon Lady of Galloway b. c 1194, d. a 6 Jan 1233
Children

Family 5

Juliana (?)

Citations

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    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 94-27, p. 91. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
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  8. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 115-116, HUNTINGDON 6:i.
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  10. [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe (NY: Barnes & Noble Books, 2002), Table 12: Scotland: Kings until the accession of Robert Bruce. Hereinafter cited as Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession.
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  15. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_of_Galloway. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  16. [S2286] Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, online http://oxforddnb.com/index/, https://www.oxforddnb.com/view/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-49362. Hereinafter cited as ODNB - Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.
  17. [S4787] People of Medieval Scotland, online <https://www.poms.ac.uk/>, https://www.poms.ac.uk/record/person/451/. Hereinafter cited as POMS - People of Medieval Scotland.
  18. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 139-1, p. 177. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  19. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), p. 47, Line 38-26. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
  20. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#ThomasGallowayMdauRagnvaldMan
  21. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Dunkeld page (The House of Dunkeld): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/dunkeld.html
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  23. [S1953] Wikipedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_Galloway#/media/File:Gallovidian_lordship_map.png
  24. [S1953] Wikipedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta
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  26. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 103, GALLOWAY 4:v.
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  30. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Aumale.pdf, p. 4. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  31. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, MacDougall of MacDougall Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  32. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Extinct Peerages, p. 21. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  33. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Devorguilla of Galloway: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027686&tree=LEO
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Matilda (?) de Frise (de Friesland)1

F, #4990, b. 1027, d. 1044
FatherLiudolf von Braunschweig Markgraf in Friesland, Graf im Derlingau2,3 b. c 1003, d. 23 Apr 1038
MotherGertrud von Egisheim3 b. c 988, d. 21 Jul 1077
Last Edited27 Jun 2020
     Matilda (?) de Frise (de Friesland) was born in 1027 at Bourgogne, Departement de la Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France (now).4 She married Henri I (?) King of France, son of Robert II "The Pious/le Pieux" (?) King of France and Constance (?) d'Arles, Queen of France, in 1043; his 2nd wife.1,5,6
Matilda (?) de Frise (de Friesland) was buried in 1044 at Basilique Saint-Denis, Saint-Denis, Departement de Seine-Saint-Denis, Île-de-France, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1027, Bourgogne, Departement de la Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France
     DEATH     1044 (aged 16–17), Paris, City of Paris, Île-de-France, France
     French Monarch. In 1043 she became the second wife of King Henri I but died one year later only seventeen years old. Bio by: Lutetia
     BURIAL     Saint Denis Basilique, Saint-Denis, Departement de Seine-Saint-Denis, Île-de-France, France
     PLOT     Grave not marked
     Maintained by: Find A Grave
     Originally Created by: Lutetia
     Added: 22 Mar 2006
     Find A Grave Memorial 13698479.4
Matilda (?) de Frise (de Friesland) died in 1044 at Paris, City of Paris, Île-de-France, France (now).1,4
     Matilda (?) de Frise (de Friesland)
(an unknown value.)7,8

Family

Henri I (?) King of France b. 1006, d. 4 Aug 1060

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet4.html
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet4.html
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRUNSWICK.htm#Liudolffied1038. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 27 October 2019), memorial page for Mathilde de Frise (1027–1044), Find A Grave Memorial no. 13698479, citing Saint Denis Basilique, Saint-Denis, Departement de Seine-Saint-Denis, Île-de-France, France ; Maintained by Find A Grave, at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/13698479/mathilde-de_frise. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00007645&tree=LEOi. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_I_of_France. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  7. [S616] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 26 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 18, Ed. 1, Family #18-0770 (n.p.: Release date: March 27, 1998, unknown publish date).
  8. [S636] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 6 Oct 2000 from World Family Tree Vol. L1, Ed. 1, Family #0043 (n.p.: Release date: October 30, 1998, unknown publish date).

Conan IV "le Petit, le Fort" (?) Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond1,2,3

M, #4991, b. 1138, d. 20 February 1171
FatherAlain II "the Black" de Penthièvre Earl of Richmond, Duke of Brittany, sn de Guincamp2,3,4,5,6,7,8 b. c 1095, d. 15 Sep 1146
MotherBertha de Cornouailles Duchess of Brittany2,3,4,9,6,7,8 b. c 1114, d. 1156
ReferenceGAV24 EDV24
Last Edited30 Jun 2020
     Conan IV "le Petit, le Fort" (?) Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond was born in 1138.10,3,7,8 He married Margaret de Huntingdon Duchess of Brittany, daughter of Henry de Huntingdon Earl of Northumberland & Huntingdon and Ada de Warenne, in 1160;
Her 1st husband.11,12,13,14,2,3,15,4,7,8,16,17
Conan IV "le Petit, le Fort" (?) Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond died on 20 February 1171 at probably Guingamp, Brittany, France (now).11,12,13,3,4,7,8
Conan IV "le Petit, le Fort" (?) Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond was buried after 20 February 1171 at Begard Abbey, Begard, Departement des Côtes-d'Armor, Bretagne, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1142
     DEATH     20 Feb 1171 (aged 28–29)
     Conan IV of Penthièvre "the Young" Duke of Brittany. Conan was son of Alan the Black, 1st Earl of Richmond and Bertha of Brittany, born after 1137. Grandson of Stephen, Count of Tréguier and Hawise de Guingamp, Conan III of Brittany and Maud, the illegitimate daughter of King Henry I of England. Conan was also the great great grandson of Duke Geoffrey I and great grandson of Eudes of Brittany.
     Conan was the husband of Margaret de Huntingdon, the daughter of Henry of Scotland and Ada de Warenne and cousin of King Henry I of England. They married in 1160 and had one daughter, Constance, who would marry Geoffrey Plantagenet.
     He was his mother's heir as the daughter of Duke Conan III, and she was the last member of the Breton House of Cornouaille to reign over Brittany. Conan and his daughter, Constance, would be the last of the Penthièvre dynasty in Brittany.
     Conan's father died in 1146, his mother in 1156, but his step-father, Odo, the Viscount of Porhoet, denied Conan his ducal throne and rights. Within the year Conan IV was able to capture and imprison Odo, and claim his inheritance.
     When Geoffrey VI, the Count of Anjou died in 1158, Conan seized Nantes, reuniting his Duchy once again. Then Geoffrey's brother, King Henry II of England, seized Conan's paternal inheritance the Earldom of Richmond, demanding the return of Nantes. Conan and Henry made peace, and Conan married Henry's cousin.
     The Breton barons rebelled against Conan, King Henry exerted more direct rule of Brittany, forcing Conan to abdicate and give Brittany to his daughter. Once she was married to Geoffrey, she was no longer the Duchess, losing all control to Geoffrey as Duke.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Alan de Penthièvre 1100–1146
     Spouse
          Margaret de Huntingdon 1145–1201
     Children
          Constance Penthièvre Plantagenet-de Bretagne 1161–1201
     BURIAL     Begard Abbey, Begard, Departement des Côtes-d'Armor, Bretagne, France
     Maintained by: Anne Shurtleff Stevens
     Originally Created by: Jerry Ferren
     Added: 11 Jan 2012
     Find a Grave Memorial 83267763.18
     Conan IV "le Petit, le Fort" (?) Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond
Per Ravilious email [2006:
     "Lord of Richmond, co. York. Crossed to Brittany Sept 1156, captured Rennes, defeated and captured his stepfather Eudon of Porhoet - recognized as Duke of Brittany[2]
     "In England at the Council of Clarendon, Jan 1164 (ex. charter at Wilton for Le Mont St. Michel)[2]
     "Conan, duke of Brittany and earl of Richmond, restored to Torfin fitz Robert (de Manfield) the forfeited Manfield fee of 2 knights, held of the honour of Richmond, ca. 1159-1171
' by Hermer his great-grandfather [attavus] and Godreda [Gutherith], Hermer's daughter. ' [EYF 57, cites EYC V: 55 and the charter of Duke Conan, EYC IV, no. 55[5]]
     "~ Note: given that Duke Conan was dispossessed of his honour of Richmond by Henry II ca. 1166, this charter should be dated ca. 1159 - 1166.
     "Deposed from his duchy by Henry II: following his return to the continent in 1166 and the capture of the castle of Fougeres (July 1166), Henry II
     "'had decided on a more drastic solution to the problem of Brittany and the insecurity of the marchlands. He seems to have held Duke Conan responsible for failing to keep order, and indeed the intervention of the constable of Normandy in August 1164 suggests that Conan was either unwilling to discipline his vassals or incapable of subduing them. Henry deposed him: his heiress, the infant Constance, was betrothed to Henry's seven-year-old son Geoffrey, and Conan retired to his ancestral county of Guingamp.'[4]"4

Conan IV "le Petit, le Fort" (?) Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond
Per Burke's: "Conan le Petit, Earl of Richmond, who bore also the title of Duke of Britanny. Little more is recorded of this nobleman, than his numerous grants to the church. He m. Margaret, dau. of Henry, Earl of Huntingdon, and sister of William, King of Scotland, by whom he had and only dau., Constance..."2 GAV-24 EDV-24 GKJ-25.

Conan IV "le Petit, le Fort" (?) Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond
This is the same person as:
”Conan IV, Duke of Brittany” at Wikipedia and as
””Conan IV de Bretagne at Wikipédia (Fr.)19,20

Reference: Genalogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. 67.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/1:75 Neu.
3. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 10:779/780.7


Conan IV "le Petit, le Fort" (?) Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond
Per Genealogics:
     “Conon IV was born in 1138, the son of Alain II 'the Black', earl of Richmond, seigneur de Guingamp, and Berthe de Bretagne, heiress of Brittany. He was his mother's heir, and with the death of his mother in early 1156, Conon expected to inherit the ducal throne. However he was denied his inheritance by his step-father Vicomte Eudon II de Porhoët, who refused to let go of his authority. Eudon may have entered into a pact with Hoel, comte de Nantes, to divide Brittany between them. However Hoel was under threat of rebellion in Nantes, sponsored by Geoffrey VI Martel d'Anjou, comte de Nantes, and he could not send Eudon any aid. Within a year Conon was able to capture and imprison Eudon, and claim his inheritance.
     “By 1158 Geoffrey VI Martel d'Anjou died and Conon seized Nantes, reuniting the duchy once again. However, Geoffrey's brother Henry II, king of England, responded by seizing the earldom of Richmond, Conon's paternal inheritance, and demanded the return of Nantes. Conon and Henry made peace, and in 1160 Conon married Henry's cousin Margaret of Scotland, daughter of Henry, earl of Huntingdon, earl of Northumberland, and Ada de Warenne.
     “Conon faced several revolts from his own nobles, rebellions possibly covertly supported by England. To put down the unrest, he appealed for help to Henry, who in return demanded the betrothal of Conon's only daughter and heiress Constance to Henry's son Geoffrey. Constance would have progeny with Geoffrey and her third husband Guy de Thouars.”.7 He was Earl of Richmond.11

Reference: Faris [1999:279].21

Conan IV "le Petit, le Fort" (?) Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond and Margaret de Huntingdon Duchess of Brittany
Per Med Lands:
     "CONAN de Penthièvre, son of ALAIN Earl of Richmond & his wife Berthe heiress of Brittany ([1138]-18 or 20 Feb 1171, bur Bégard Monastery). The Chronicæ Sancti Albini names "Conanus junior, comes Britanniæ, Alani comitis filius et Berta mater eius comitissa" when recording his death[272]. The Genealogia Comitum Richemundiæ records that "Conanus filius Alani" succeeded his father "in honorem Richemundiæ" and built "turrim magnam infra Castellum Richemundiæ"[273]. He invaded Brittany in 1156, captured Rennes, expelled his stepfather who was taken prisoner by Raoul de Fougères, and succeeded as CONAN IV "le Petit" Duke of Brittany. He seized the county of Nantes on the death in 1158 of Geoffroy Comte de Nantes, son of Henry II King of England. King Henry II deprived Duke Conan of the lordship of Richmond, but it was returned to him under the agreement reached in Sep 1158. "Conan dux Britannie comes Richmundie" confirmed the donation of Plubihan and Plougasnou to Saint-Georges de Rennes by charter to [1156/69], witnessed by "Margarita comitissa, Willelmo filio Hamon, Alano de Rohan, Constancia sorore comitis…"[274]. Duke Conan confiscated Tréguier and Guingamp from his uncle Comte Henri. He was forced to surrender Brittany to King Henry II in 1166, on the betrothal of his daughter to Henry's son, who was proclaimed Duke of Brittany in 1169. The Chronicæ Sancti Albini record that "Conanus junior, comes Britanniæ, Alani comitis filius et Berta mater eius comitissa" was dying in 1169 and that Henry II King of England subjugated Brittany and placed his son Geoffroy to rule there through "Guillelmi filii Hamonis"[275]. Robert of Torigny records the death in 1171 of "Conanus dux Britanniæ"[276]. The Chronicon Britannico Alter records the death in 1171 of "Conanus junior Dux Britanniæ"[277]. The necrology of Landévennec records the death “XII Kal Mar” of “Conanus dux Britanniæ 1171”[278]. The Chronicon Kemperlegiensis records the death "XX Feb" in 1171 of "Conanus Dux Britanniæ et Comes Richemundiæ"[279]. The Chronicon Ruyensis Cœnobii records the death in 1171 of "Conani Ducis Britanniæ, Alani et Berthæ filii"[280]. The Genealogia Comitum Richemundiæ records the death in Brittany in 1170 of "Conanus filius Alani" and his burial "Begare"[281].
     "m (1160) as her first husband, MARGARET of Scotland, daughter of HENRY of Scotland, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland & his wife Ada de Warenne ([1144/45]-1201, bur Sawtrey Abbey, Hunts). Her origin and first marriage are deduced from Benedict of Peterborough recording that "filia sororis regis Scotiæ Willelmi comitissa Brittaniæ" gave birth in 1186 to "filium…Arturum"[282]. Her birth date is estimated from the Rotuli de Dominabus of 1185 which records property “villam de Wissinton” held by “Margareta comitissa…xl annorum”, adding that “comes Britannie habet filiam suam” and that she has “i filium de Humfrido de Buun qui est infra etatem”[283]. The Chronicle of Melrose records the marriage in 1160 of "Malcolm king of Scotland…his sister Margaret to Conan duke of Brittany"[284]. The Genealogia Comitum Richemundiæ records that "Conanus filius Alani" married "Margaretam sororem Willielmi Regis Scotie"[285]. "Conan dux Britannie comes Richmundie" confirmed the donation of Plubihan and Plougasnou to Saint-Georges de Rennes by charter to [1156/69], witnessed by "Margarita comitissa, Willelmo filio Hamon, Alano de Rohan, Constancia sorore comitis…"[286]. She married secondly (before Easter 1175) Humphrey [IV] de Bohun Constable of England. A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey records that “dominus Humfridus quartus de Bohun, comes Herefordiæ et constabularius Angliæ” married “Margaretam comitissam Britanniæ”[287]. The Annals of Burton record the death in 1201 of “Margareta mater…Constantiæ, soror Willelmi regis Scotiæ, mater Henrici de Boum comitis Herefordiæ”[288]."
Med Lands cites:
[272] Chronica sancti Sergii Andegavensis, Chroniques des Eglises d'Anjou, p. 150.
[273] Genealogia Comitum Richemundiæ post conquestum Angliæ, RHGF, Tome XII, p. 569.
[274] Rennes Saint-Georges, XX, p. 249.
[275] Chronica sancti Sergii Andegavensis, Chroniques des Eglises d'Anjou, p. 150.
[276] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, p. 25.
[277] Ex Chronico Britannico Altero, RHGF, Tome XII, p. 560.
[278] Landévennec Necrology, pp. 33-49.
[279] Ex Chronico Kemperlegiensis, RHGF, Tome XII, p. 563.
[280] Ex Chronico Ruyensis Cœnobii, RHGF, Tome XII, p. 564.
[281] Genealogia Comitum Richemundiæ post conquestum Angliæ, RHGF, Tome XII, p. 569.
[282] Benedict of Peterborough, Vol. I, 1186, p. 361.
[283] Rotuli Dominabus, Rotuli V, Norffolk, p. 33.
[284] Chronicle of Melrose, 1162, p. 12.
[285] Genealogia Comitum Richemundiæ post conquestum Angliæ, RHGF, Tome XII, p. 569.
[286] Rennes Saint-Georges, XX, p. 249.
[287] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Lanthony Abbey, Gloucestershire, II, Fundatorum progenies, p. 134.
[288] Annales de Burton, p. 209.8


Conan IV "le Petit, le Fort" (?) Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond and Margaret de Huntingdon Duchess of Brittany
Per Genealogy.EU (Bretagne 3): “G1. Conon IV, Duc de Bretagne (1156-66), *ca 1138, +20.2.1171; m.1160 Margaret of Scotland (*1154 +1201)”.22

Conan IV "le Petit, le Fort" (?) Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond and Margaret de Huntingdon Duchess of Brittany
Per Med Lands:
     "MARGARET ([1144/45]-1201, bur Sawtrey Abbey). Her origin and first marriage are deduced from Benedict of Peterborough who records that "filia sororis regis Scotiæ Willelmi comitissa Brittaniæ" gave birth in 1186 to "filium…Arturum"[463]. Her birth date is estimated from the Rotuli de Dominabus of 1185 which records property “villam de Wissinton” held by “Margareta comitissa…xl annorum”, adding that “comes Britannie habet filiam suam” and that she has “i filium de Humfrido de Buun qui est infra etatem”[464]. The Chronicle of Melrose records the marriage in 1160 of "Malcolm king of Scotland…his sister Margaret to Conan duke of Brittany"[465]. The Genealogia Comitum Richemundiæ records that "Conanus filius Alani" married "Margaretam sororem Willielmi Regis Scotie"[466]. "Conan dux Britannie comes Richmundie" confirmed the donation of Plubihan and Plougasnou to Saint-Georges de Rennes by charter to [1156/69], witnessed by "Margarita comitissa, Willelmo filio Hamon, Alano de Rohan, Constancia sorore comitis…"[467]. A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey records that “dominus Humfridus quartus de Bohun, comes Herefordiæ et constabularius Angliæ” married “Margaretam comitissam Britanniæ”[468]. Two possibilities have been proposed for a third marriage of Margaret. Firstly, Evans suggests that she was the second marriage of Pedro de Lara, quoting a charter dated "X Kal Feb 1221" (Spanish Era = A. D. 23 Jan 1183) at Anjou which records a donation by "P…comes de Lara…comitisse Marger’ uxori mee consanguinee H...angl’ regis" of "Molmera et Handaluz et Agusinu et Eles et Pulucranke…in Hyspania" to Llanthony abbey, witnessed by "comes Gaufredus Britannie, J. sine terra, J. comes J, Mauricius de Creon sen[escallus Andeg, J. Didaci comitis"[469]. He points out that Llanthony had been founded in 1136 by Miles of Gloucester, whose eldest daughter married Humphrey de Bohun, who was the father of Margaret’s second husband[470]. If this origin is correct, Pedro’s marriage to Margaret was presumably terminated before her death, given his third marriage. The difficulty with Evans’s proposal is the obvious age difference between Pedro de Lara and Margaret of Scotland. Another possibility, which also justifies the connection with Llanthony through the Bohun family and is more satisfactory from a chronological point of view, is that Pedro’s second wife was an otherwise unrecorded daughter of Margaret’s. The second possibility for a third marriage for Margaret with "the Berwickshire thegn" William FitzPatrick of Greenlaw, Westmoreland was proposed by Washington[471], and accepted by Hedley[472]. The Liber de S. Marie de Calchou (Kelso abbey) lists "Carta Willi fil Patric…in villa de Grenlaw" which records the donation by "M comitisse uxoris mee" to Kelso of land "in Grenelawe quem Lyolfus eq’cius tenuit"[473], while the Pipe Roll of 1184 for Westmoreland records lands owned by "Countess Margaret"[474]. Washington assigns three children to this marriage: "1. Walter de Washington, 2. Sir William de Washington, 3. Marjory who married firstly David de Lindsay (from which marriage descended Sir Robert de Pinkney, a competitor for the Scottish crown in 1291) and secondly Sir Malcolm FitzWaldeve alias de Ingoe".] The Annals of Burton record the death in 1201 of “Margareta mater…Constantiæ, soror Willelmi regis Scotiæ, mater Henrici de Boum comitis Herefordiæ”[475].
     "m firstly (1160) CONAN IV "le Petit" Duke of Brittany, Earl of Richmond, son of ALAIN Earl of Richmond & his wife Berthe heiress of Brittany ([1138]-18 or 20 Feb 1171).
     "m secondly (1171 before Easter) HUMPHREY [IV] de Bohun, son of HUMPHREY [III] de Bohun & his wife Margaret of Hereford (-[1180]). Hereditary Constable of England.
     "[Two possible alternatives for her third marriage: (1) m thirdly as his second wife, conde don PEDRO Manrique de Lara Vicomte de Narbonne, son of conde don MANRIQUE Pérez de Lara & his wife Ermesinde Ctss de Narbonne (-Jan 1202, bur Santa María de Huerta). (2) m thirdly WILLIAM FitzPatrick alias de Hertburn, alias de Washington, of Greenlaw, Westmoreland, son of --- (-after 1184).]"
Med Lands cites:
[463] Stubbs, W. (ed.) (1847) Gesta Regis Henrici Secundi Benedicti Abbatis, The Chronicle of the reigns of Henry II and Richard I 1169-1192, known commonly under the name of Benedict of Peterborough (London) (“Benedict of Peterborough”) I 1186, p. 361.
[464] Grimaldi, S. (ed.) (1830) Rotuli de Dominabus et Pueris et Puellis de Donatione Regis in XII Comitatibus, 1185 (London) (“Rotuli Dominabus”), Rotuli V, Norffolk, p. 33.
[465] Chronicle of Melrose, 1162, p. 12.
[466] Genealogia Comitum Richemundiæ post conquestum Angliæ, RHGF XII, p. 569.
[467] La Bigne Villeneuve, P. de (ed.) `Cartulaire de l’abbaye de Saint-Georges de Rennes`, Bulletin et mémoires de la société archéologique de département d’Ille-et-Vilaine, Tome IX (Rennes, 1870) ("Rennes Saint-Georges"), XX, p. 249.
[468] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Lanthony Abbey, Gloucestershire, II, Fundatorum progenies, p. 134.
[469] Evans, C. F. H. 'Margaret of Scotland, Duchess of Brittany', Adhémar de Panat, Comte d’and Ghellinck Vaernewyck, X. de (eds.) (1971) Mélanges offerts à Szabolcs de Vajay à l’occasion de son cinquantième anniversaire (Braga), pp. 187-91, in Edwards, S. (ed.) (2003) Complete Works of Charles Evans, Genealogy and related topics (Foundation for Medieval Genealogy) ("Evans (2003)"), p. 121, quoting P.R.O., C 115/a 1, I, no. 43.
[470] Evans (2003), pp. 121-2.
[471] Washington, G. S. H. L. (1964) The earliest Washingtons and their Anglo-Scottish connexions, cited in Evans (2003), p. 120.
[472] Hedley, W. P. (1968) Northumberland Families, Vol. I, p. 237, cited in Evans (2003), p. 120.
[473] Innes, C. (1846) Liber de S. Marie de Calchou, Vol. I, p. 58.
[474] Pipe Roll Society, Vol. XXXIII (1912), cited without a page number in Evans (2003), p. 120.
[475] Luard, H. R. (ed.) (1864) Annales Monastici Vol. I, Annales de Margan, Annales de Theokesberia, Annales de Burton (London) Annales de Burton, p. 209.17


Conan IV "le Petit, le Fort" (?) Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond and Margaret de Huntingdon Duchess of Brittany
Per Genealogy.EU (Dunkeld): “E5. Margaret, *ca 1145/46, +1201; 1m: 1159/60 Duke Conan IV of Brittany (*ca 1038, +20.2.1171), 2m: around Easter 1175 Humphrey de Bohun (+1182)”.23 Conan IV "le Petit, le Fort" (?) Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond was Duc de Bretagne between 1156 and 1166.21,4 He was Duc de Bretagne between 1156 and 1166.11,24,3

Family

Margaret de Huntingdon Duchess of Brittany b. bt 1145 - 1146, d. 1201
Child

Citations

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    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 119-27, p. 107. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  12. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 115, HUNTINGDON 4:v.
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Ellen/Helen/Elena de Quincy1,2

F, #4992, b. circa 1222, d. before 20 August 1296
FatherRoger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester3,4,5,2,6 b. c 1200, d. 25 Apr 1264
MotherEllen/Helen (?) of Galloway7,5,2,6 b. b 1205, d. a 21 Nov 1245
ReferenceGAV20 EDV21
Last Edited10 Aug 2020
     Ellen/Helen/Elena de Quincy was born circa 1222 at Winchester, co. Hampshire, England.8,9 She married Sir Alan II La Zouche Baron Zouche of Ashby la Zouche, son of Roger I La Zouche and Margaret Bisset, before 1242 at Winchester, City of Winchester, co. Hampshire, England.10,11,3,12,2,6,9,13,14
Ellen/Helen/Elena de Quincy died before 20 August 1296.10,11,3,6,9
     GAV-20 EDV-21 GKJ-21.

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 12-2:932.
2. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America bef.1700, 7th Edition, 1992, Weis, Frederick Lewis. 42, 58.2
Ellen/Helen/Elena de Quincy was also known as Elena de Quincy.15

Ellen/Helen/Elena de Quincy and Sir Alan II La Zouche Baron Zouche of Ashby la Zouche
Per Med Lands:
     "ELLEN de Quincy (-before 20 Aug 1296). The Annales Londonienses name "Margarete countesse de Ferreres et Eleyne la Zusche et la countesse de Bougham" as the three daughters of "Eleyn countesse de Wynton", naming "Roger la Zusche" as son of "Eleyne la Zusche" and "de Roger, Aleyn"[102]. A charter dated 3 Dec 1274 records the homage of "Elena la Zusche another daughter and heir of Roger [de Quency earl of Wynton]" for her part of the lands "lately held in dower by Alianora de Vaux late countess of Wynton widow of the said Roger"[103]. Inquisitions after a writ 20 Aug "24 Edw I", following the death of "Elena la Zousche...", name “Alan la Suches [...son of Sir Roger de la Suche] aged 24 [...and more...aged 28 at the feast of St. Giles last] is her next heir” and record “Oliver la Suches” doing the service of 1 knight in Disard, Strahon and Lokeris, Fifeshire[104].
     "m ALAN [II] la Zouche [Justiciar of Ireland], son of ROGER [I] la Zouche & his wife Margaret --- (-killed in battle London 10 Aug 1270)."
Med Lands cites:
[102] Annales Londonienses, p. 126.
[103] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 36, p. 9.
[104] Inquisitions Post Mortem, Vol. III, Edward I, 363, p. 223.6


Ellen/Helen/Elena de Quincy and Sir Alan II La Zouche Baron Zouche of Ashby la Zouche
Per Racines et Histoire (Quincy): “Helen de Quincy ° ~1222 (Winchester) + ~20/08/1296
     ép.~1242 (Winchester) Sir Alan II La Zouche ° ~1205 (Ashby-de-LaZouche, Leicestershire) + 10/08/1270 (fils de Roger et d’Annora)”.9

Ellen/Helen/Elena de Quincy and Sir Alan II La Zouche Baron Zouche of Ashby la Zouche
Per Genealogy.EU (Rohan 1): “E1. Alain II de la Zouche, Justiciar of Ireland, +k.a.1270; m.before 1242 Helen de Quincey (+shortly before 20.8.1296)”.16

Ellen/Helen/Elena de Quincy and Sir Alan II La Zouche Baron Zouche of Ashby la Zouche
Per Med Lands:
     "ALAN [II] la Zouche, son of ROGER [I] la Zouche & his wife Margaret --- (-killed in battle London 10 Aug 1270). An order dated 16 Jun 1238 records the homage of “Alani filii et heredis Rogeri la Zuch” for lands in Devonshire and Shropshire[592]. A writ dated "54 Hen III", after the death of "Alan la Zuche", names "Roger his son, age variously stated as 28 and more and 30, is his heir"[593].
     "m ELLEN de Quincy, daughter of ROGER de Quincy Earl of Winchester & his first wife Ellen of Galloway (-before 20 Aug 1296). The Annales Londonienses name "Margarete countesse de Ferreres et Eleyne la Zusche et la countesse de Bougham" as the three daughters of "Eleyn countesse de Wynton", naming "Roger la Zusche" as son of "Eleyne la Zusche" and "de Roger, Aleyn"[594]. A charter dated 3 Dec 1274 records the homage of "Elena la Zusche another daughter and heir of Roger [de Quency earl of Wynton]" for her part of the lands "lately held in dower by Alianora de Vaux late countess of Wynton widow of the said Roger"[595]. Inquisitions after a writ 20 Aug "24 Edw I", following the death of "Elena la Zousche...", name “Alan la Suches [...son of Sir Roger de la Suche] aged 24 [...and more...aged 28 at the feast of St. Giles last] is her next heir” and record “Oliver la Suches” doing the service of 1 knight in Disard, Strahon and Lokeris, Fifeshire[596]."
Med Lands cites:
[592] Close Rolls Henry III 1237-1242 (1911), p. 61.
[593] Inquisitions Post Mortem, Vol. I, Henry III, 735, p. 235.
[594] Annales Londonienses, p. 126.
[595] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 36, p. 9.
[596] Inquisitions Post Mortem, Vol. III, Edward I, 363, p. 223.14

Citations

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  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Zouche Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Roger de Quincy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027689&tree=LEO
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    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 53-29, p. 58. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
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    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 74-3, p. 90. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
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  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Alan La Zouche: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027696&tree=LEO
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Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester1,2,3,4

M, #4993, b. circa 1200, d. 25 April 1264
FatherSaher IV de Quincy 1st Earl of Winchester5,3,6,2 b. 1155, d. 3 Nov 1219
MotherMargaret/Marguerite 'fitzPernel' de Beaumont7,8,2,6 d. b 12 Jan 1235
ReferenceGAV21
Last Edited10 Aug 2020
     Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester was born circa 1200 at Winchester, City of Winchester, co. Hampshire, England; Racines et Histoire (Bohun) says b. ca 1181; Genealogics says b. ca 1200; Racines et Histoire (Quincy) says b. ca 1195.3,2,4 He married Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway, daughter of Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland and (?) de Crevequor, before 1223 at England;
His 1st wife.
Racines et Histoire (Quincy) says m. ca 1228 or 1214.9,10,3,6,4 Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester married Maud/Matilda de Bohun, daughter of Humphrey V de Bohun 2nd Earl of Hereford, Earl of Essex and Mahaut/Maud d'Eu de Lusignan, before 5 June 1250 at England;
His 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.1,11,3,2,6,4,12,13 Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester married Eleanor/Alianore de Ferrers, daughter of William de Ferrers 5th Earl of Derby, 1st Earl of Westmoreland and Sybil Marshall, before 5 December 1252;
Her 2nd husband, his 3rd wife.1,14,15,3,6,4,16,17
Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester died on 25 April 1264 at England.18,3,2,4,6
Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester was buried after 25 April 1264 at St. Peter's Churchyard, Brackley, South Northamptonshire Borough, Northamptonshire, England,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1200, Winchester, City of Winchester, Hampshire, England
     DEATH     25 Apr 1264 (aged 63–64), England
     2nd Earl of Winchester, Knight of Ware, Hertfordshire, of Eynesbury, Keyston and Southoe, Huntingdonshire, of Belgrave, Burton Overy, Braunstone, Galby and Laughton, Leicestershire. In right of his wife, hereditary Constable of Scotland. 2nd but eldest surviving son and heir to Saher de Quincy and Margaret de Beaumont. Grandson of Sir Robert de Quincy and Orabel FitzWilliam, Sir Robert de Beaumont and Pernel de Grantnesmil. Younger brother of Sir Robert de Quincy who died 1217.
     Husband of Helen (Ellen) Galloway, the 2nd but eldest surviving daughter of Alan FitzRoland, Lord of Galloway and Margaret de Huntingdon. Her maritagium included the manor of Kippax, Yorkshire. They had three daughters:
* Margaret, wife of Sir William de Ferrers, Earl of Derby
* Elizabeth, wife of Sir Alexander de Comyn, Earl of Buchan
* Ellen, wife of Sir Alan la Zouche of Ashby La Zouche

     Without male heirs, his lands were divided amoung his daughter's husbands, as were the lands of his father-in-law, Alan of Galloway.
     Helen of Galloway died after 21 Nov 1245, and Roger married a second time to Maud de Bohun, the daughter of Sir Humphrey de Bohun and Maud d'Exoudun, the widow of Anslem Marshal, Earl of Pembroke, who died in 1245. They were married before 12 June 1250, and had no issue. Maud died at Groby, Leicestershire 20 Oct 1252, and was buried at Brackley.
     Roger married a third time to Eleanor de Ferrers, the daughter of Sir William Ferrers, Earl of Derby, and Sibyl Marshal, the daughter of Sir William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke. They married shortly before 17 Jan 1253 and had no issue.
     Roger and his father were excommunicated by Pope innocent III 16 Dec 1215 for their part in the Magna Carta, and Roger was possibly on the Crusade at Damietta when his father died in 1219. His older brother, Robert, had died two years before, and Roger returned home to pay homage and receive his father's titles and properties. By 1222 he was in Poitou with the King's army.
     His niece, Margaret de Quincy, the wife of Sir John de Lacy, relinquished all her rights to the Quincy inheritance in 1230. In return, Roger granted to Margaret and John and their issue, her mother, Hawise's, dowry, including the manor of Granchester, Cambridgeshire.
     Roger received the title of Earl of Winchester at his mother's death in 1235. Helen's father, Alan of Galloway had been involved in power struggles in Galloway, rebels were suppressed, Roger received more of Galloway in his right, ruling with a severity that resulted in the chiefs rising against him in 1247, besieging one of his castles. Instead of permitting starvation, Roger threw open the castle gates with the intent to fight to his death, but managed to cut through the men and rode to the court of King Alexander, who punished the rebels and re-established Roger with his properties.
     After Roger's death, Eleanor married Roger de Leybourne and died 16 Oct 1274. Roger's arms were different than his fathers: Gules, seven mascles in rows of three, three and one.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Saher de Quincy 1155–1219
          Margaret de Beaumont de Quincy 1156–1235
     Spouses
          Helen Galloway Quincy unknown–1245 (m. 1220)
          Maud de Bohun Quincy unknown–1252 (m. 1250)
     Siblings
          Hawise de Quincy de Vere unknown–1263
          Lorette de Quincy Valoines 1180 – unknown
          Robert de Quincy 1186–1217
     Children
          Margaret De Quincy Ferrers 1218–1281
          Elizabeth de Quincy 1221–1282
          Helen De Quincy La Zouche 1221–1296
     BURIAL     St. Peter's Churchyard, Brackley, South Northamptonshire Borough, Northamptonshire, England
     Created by: Anne Shurtleff Stevens
     Added: 17 Jun 2013
     Find a Grave Memorial 112465137.19
     Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester was a witness to the Per Med Lands:
     "MATILDA de Bohun (-Groby, Lincolnshire 20 Oct 1252, bur Brackley). The History of the foundation of Walden abbey names “Matilidis filia sua, Humfredus filius suus primogenitus, Henricus et Radulfus fratres eius” as children of “Humfridum de Bohun filium domini Henrici de Bohun comitis Herefordiæ” and his wife “Matildi”[547]. A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey names “Matildis..Alicia” as the first two of the four daughters of “Henricus [mistake for Humfredus] quintus de Bohun comes Hereford et Essex et constabularius Angliæ et dominus Henricus de Bohun” and his wife “Matildem filiam comitis de Ewe in Normannia”, adding that Matilda married “Ancelmo filio et hæredi Willielmi le Mareschall”[548]. A charter dated 19 Jan 1246 mandates the grant to "Matilda who was the wife of Anselm Marshall…[of] 60 librates of land in Ireland, for her maintenance until the king shall cause her dower to be assigned to her out of Anselm’s lands"[549].
     "m firstly ANSELM Marshal, son of WILLIAM Marshal Earl of Pembroke & his wife Isabel de Clare Ctss of Pembroke (-Chepstow [22/24] Dec 1245, bur Tintern Abbey). He succeeded his brother in 1245 as Earl of Pembroke.
     "m secondly (before 5 Jun 1250) as his second wife, ROGER de Quincy Earl of Winchester, son of SAHER de Quincy Earl of Winchester & his wife Margaret of Leicester (-25 Apr 1264, bur [Brackley])."
Med Lands cites:
[547] Dugdale Monasticon IV, Walden Abbey, Essex, I, Fundationis Historia, p. 139.
[548] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Lanthony Abbey, Gloucestershire, II, Fundatorum progenies, p. 135.
[549] Calendar of Documents Ireland, Vol. I, 2804, p. 419.
with Maud/Matilda de Bohun and Anselm Marshal Earl of Pembroke.13
Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester was a witness to the Per Genealogy.EU (de Bohun): “E2. Maud, +Groby 20.10.1252, bur Brackley; 1m: Anselm Marshall, Earl of Pembroke (+Chepstow 22.12.1245); 2m: 5.6.1250 Roger de Quincy, 2d Earl of Winchester (+25.4.1264)” with Maud/Matilda de Bohun and Anselm Marshal Earl of Pembroke.20
Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester was a witness to the Per Racines et Histoire (de Bohun): “Maud de Bohun ° ~1230/32
     ép. 1) Anseau (Anselme) Marshall ° ~1212 + 1245 6ème earl of Pembroke
     ép. 2) Roger de Quincy + 25/04/1264 2ème earl of Winchester ” with Maud/Matilda de Bohun and Anselm Marshal Earl of Pembroke.21
Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester was a witness to the Per Med Lands:
     "MATILDA de Bohun (-Groby, Lincolnshire 20 Oct 1252, bur Brackley). The History of the foundation of Walden abbey names “Matilidis filia sua, Humfredus filius suus primogenitus, Henricus et Radulfus fratres eius” as children of “Humfridum de Bohun filium domini Henrici de Bohun comitis Herefordiæ” and his wife “Matildi”[547]. A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey names “Matildis..Alicia” as the first two of the four daughters of “Henricus [mistake for Humfredus] quintus de Bohun comes Hereford et Essex et constabularius Angliæ et dominus Henricus de Bohun” and his wife “Matildem filiam comitis de Ewe in Normannia”, adding that Matilda married “Ancelmo filio et hæredi Willielmi le Mareschall”[548]. A charter dated 19 Jan 1246 mandates the grant to "Matilda who was the wife of Anselm Marshall…[of] 60 librates of land in Ireland, for her maintenance until the king shall cause her dower to be assigned to her out of Anselm’s lands"[549].
     "m firstly ANSELM Marshal, son of WILLIAM Marshal Earl of Pembroke & his wife Isabel de Clare Ctss of Pembroke (-Chepstow [22/24] Dec 1245, bur Tintern Abbey). He succeeded his brother in 1245 as Earl of Pembroke.
     "m secondly (before 5 Jun 1250) as his second wife, ROGER de Quincy Earl of Winchester, son of SAHER de Quincy Earl of Winchester & his wife Margaret of Leicester (-25 Apr 1264, bur [Brackley])."
Med Lands cites:
[547] Dugdale Monasticon IV, Walden Abbey, Essex, I, Fundationis Historia, p. 139.
[548] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Lanthony Abbey, Gloucestershire, II, Fundatorum progenies, p. 135.
[549] Calendar of Documents Ireland, Vol. I, 2804, p. 419.
with Maud/Matilda de Bohun and John Mowbray.13 Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester was hereditary Constable of Scotland at Scotland.22,1 He was Crusader.8

Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester
Per Genealogics:
     “Roger was the son of Saher de Quincy, 1st earl of Winchester, and Margaret 'FitzPernel' de Beaumont. In 1219 Roger was on crusade with his father, who died at Damietta. On 16 February 1220 or 1221 he was given possession of his father's lands, but he did not inherit his mother's lands, nor was he recognised as earl of Winchester, until her death in 1234 or 1235. On 20 April 1230 he was granted protection to go to Brittany, from where he was allowed to return in September with his mother's knights who had crossed with him.
     “Before 1234 he married Helen, daughter and heiress of Alan FitzRoland, lord of Galloway, constable of Scotland. They had three daughters who would have progeny. When his father-in-law died, Roger became hereditary constable of Scotland. On 25 September 1237 he witnessed the agreement between Alexander II, king of Scots, and Henry III of England. He was amongst those who in 1239 protested against the pope about papal presentments to church livings, and in 1246 he expressed their further grievances to the pope.
     “After 21 November 1245 his wife Helen of Galloway died and before 5 June 1250 he married Maud de Bohun but she died on 20 October 1252. Before 5 December 1252 he married Alianore de Ferrers. Neither marriage resulted in progeny. On 25 April 1264 he died without leaving a male heir, and the earldom reverted to the Crown; his possessions were divided between his three daughters by his first wife.”.3 GAV-21 EDV-21 GKJ-22.

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America bef.1700, 7th Edition, 1992, Weis, Frederick Lewis, Reference: 42, 58.
2. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: I 155.
3. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: XII 751, also biographical details.
4. Americans of Royal Descent, 7th edition, Baltimore, 1969 , Browning, Charles H., Reference: 111.
5. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 149.3


Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester
This is the same person as ”Quincy, Roger de, earl of Winchester” at the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.


This is also the same person as ”Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester” at Wikipedia.23,24

Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester and Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway
Per ODNB: "Roger himself married three times: first Helen, eldest daughter of Alan, lord of Galloway and constable of Scotland; second Maud, daughter of Humphrey (IV) de Bohun, earl of Hereford (d. 1275); and third Eleanor, daughter by his first marriage of William de Ferrers, earl of Derby, by whom he was survived."23

Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester and Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway
Per Racines et Histoire (Quincy): “2) Roger de Quincy ° ~ 1195 (Buckley ou Winchester) + 25/04/1264 (Brackley, Ecosse ou Terre Sainte, croisé ?), 2ème earl of Winchester, Connétable d’Ecosse
     ép. 1) ~1228 (ou 1214 ?) Helen Nicalan of Galloway ° ~1200 (Carrick, Ecosse) + ~21/11/1245 (Brackley) (fille d’Alan Mac Donald, Lord of Galloway et de Ragnhild Reginaldsdottir (alias Hilda ou Helen de Lisle)
     ép. 2) Maud, comtesse de Pembroke ° ~1180 (Chester) + 1242/43 (fille d’Humphrey de Bohun et d’Alienor de Braose)
     ép. 3) Alienor Ferrers (fille de William et d’Agnès de Meschines) ”.4

Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester and Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway
Per Med Lands:
     "ROGER de Quincy (-25 Apr 1264, bur [Brackley]). "Seyerus de Quinci comes Wintonie" donated revenue from "molendino meo de Locres" to St Andrew´s priory, with the consent of "Rogeri filii et heredis mei", by undated charter, dated to [1217/18], witnessed by "Rogero de Quinci herede meo, Simone de Quinci persona de Louchres, Patricio filio Nesii…Simonis de Quinci"[76]. "Rogerus de Quinci filius Seyeri comitis Wintonie" confirmed his father´s donation of a mill to St Andrew´s priory by undated charter, dated to [1217/18], witnessed by "Dño Seyero patre meo comite Wintonie, Symone de Quinci persona de Louchres, Patricio filio Nesii…Gilleberto clerico, Symonis de Quinci, Henrico clerico, Symonis de Quinci"[77]. He succeeded his father in 1219 as Earl of Winchester, but was not recognised as such until after his mother's death[78]. "Rogerius de Quinci" confirmed donations of land "in territorio de Gasc", where the men of "domini patris mei comitis Wintonie" pastured animals, to Inchaffray Abbey by charter dated to [1220], witnessed by "Gilberto comite de Stratherne, Roberto et Fergus filiis suis…"[79]. He succeeded his father-in-law in 1234 as hereditary Constable of Scotland, de iure uxoris. "Rogerus de Quency constabularius Scocie et Elena uxor eius filia quondam Alani de Galweya" recognised the rights of the church of Glasgow to "villam de Edeluestune" by undated charter[80]. "Rogerus de Quincy" donated "boscum nostrum de Gleddiswod" to Dryburgh monastery, for the souls of "nostre et Alyenore sponse mee et…Alani de Galwythya et Helene filie sue quondam sponse nostro", by undated charter[81]. John of Fordun´s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the death in 1264 of "Rogerus de Quinci comes Wincestriæ"[82]. An undated writ "48 Hen III", after the death of "Roger de Quency earl of Winchester", records that he died "on the day of St Mark the Evangelist" and names "Henry de Lascy aged 14 on the day of the Epiphany next, is his heir"[83]. Another writ dated 2 Nov "55 Hen III", after the death of "Roger de Quency alias de Quinsy sometime earl of Winchester", records further details about his landholdings[84]. His earldom reverted to the crown on his death.
     "m firstly ([before 1223]) ELLEN of Galloway, daughter of ALAN Lord of Galloway & his first wife --- de Lacy ([before 1205]-after 21 Nov 1245, bur Brackley). The Annales Londonienses name "Eleyn countesse de Wynton" as eldest of the three daughters of "la primere fille Davi" and "Aleyn de Gavei", naming "Margarete countesse de Ferreres et Eleyne la Zusche et la countesse de Bougham" as her three daughters[85]. Earl Roger's first marriage with the daughter of Alan of Galloway is recorded by Matthew Paris[86]. The Liber Pluscardensis records that the eldest daughter of "Alanus de Galway filius Rotholandi de Galway" married "Rogerus de Quinci comes Wintoniæ"[87]. The identity of Ellen’s mother as her father’s first wife is confirmed by her husband Roger de Quincy holding Kippax (linked to Alan’s first wife as shown above)[88]. Ellen’s birth and marriage dates are estimated from her daughter who married in [1238] having given birth soon after that marriage. "Elena quondam filia Alani de Galeweya" donated "villam de Edeluestune" to the church of Glasgow by undated charter[89]. "Rogerus de Quency constabularius Scocie et Elena uxor eius filia quondam Alani de Galweya" recognised the rights of the church of Glasgow to "villam de Edeluestune" by undated charter[90].
     "m secondly (before 5 Jun 1250) as her second husband, MATILDA de Bohun, widow of ANSELM Marshal Earl of Pembroke, daughter of HUMPHREY de Bohun Earl of Hereford and Essex & his wife Mathilde de Lusignan (-Groby, Lincolnshire 20 Oct 1252, bur Brackley80). A charter dated 19 Jan 1246 mandates the grant to "Matilda who was the wife of Anselm Marshall…[of] 60 librates of land in Ireland, for her maintenance until the king shall cause her dower to be assigned to her out of Anselm´s lands"[91]. Her death is recorded by Matthew Paris, who states that she was daughter of the Earl of Hereford but does not give her own name, that she was her husband's second wife[92].
     "m thirdly (before 5 Dec 1252) as her second husband, ELEANOR Ferrers, widow of WILLIAM de Vaux, daughter of WILLIAM de Ferrers Earl of Derby & his first wife Sibyl Marshal of Pembroke (-before 20 Oct 1274, bur Leeds Priory). The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire names "Agnes, secunda Isabella, tertia Matilda, quarta Sibilla, quinta Johanna, sexta Alianora, septima Agatha" as the seven daughters of "Willielmo de Ferrers comiti Derbiæ" and his wife "quarta filia…Willihelmi Marescalli…Sibilla", adding that "Alianora sexta filia" was "comitissa de Wintonia" and died childless[93]. A charter dated 26 May 1250 records the restoration of property, granted to "Margaret Countess of Lincoln", to "William de Vescy and Agnes his wife, Reginald de Moun and Isabel his wife, William de Fortibus and Matilda his wife, Francis de Boun and Sibil his wife, William de Vallibus and Alienor his wife, John de Moun and Joan his wife, Agatha de Ferrers in the king´s custody, Roger de Mortimer and Matilda his wife, and William de Cantilupe and Eva his wife"[94]. Her second marriage is confirmed by the Annals of Ireland which record that “Sibilla comitissa de Ferreys” had seven daughters (in order) “quinta, Elianora de Varis, quæ fuit uxor comitis Wintonie…”[95]. Matthew Paris records her husband's remarriage soon after the death of his second wife, but does not name his third wife[96]. "Rogerus de Quincy" donated "boscum nostrum de Gleddiswod" to Dryburgh monastery, for the souls of "nostre et Alyenore sponse mee et…Alani de Galwythya et Helene filie sue quondam sponse nostro", by undated charter[97]. She married thirdly (1267) as his second wife, Roger de Leyburn. King Edward I ordered the the escheator of Ireland to take all the lands of the deceased "Alianora widow of Roger de Quency earl of Winchester" into the hands of the king by charter dated 25 Oct 1274[98]."
Med Lands cites:
[76] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 255.
[77] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 256.
[78] CP XII/2 751.
[79] Inchaffray, XLII, p. 36.
[80] Glasgow Bishopric, Tome I, 168, p. 138.
[81] Dryburgh, 138, p. 99.
[82] Joannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. X, Cap. XVIII, p. 102.
[83] Inquisitions Post Mortem, Vol. I, Henry III (London), 587, p. 187.
[84] Inquisitions Post Mortem, Vol. I, Henry III, 776, p. 254.
[85] Annales Londonienses, p. 126.
[86] Matthew Paris, Vol. V, 1252, p. 341.
[87] Liber Pluscardensis, Vol. I, Liber VII, CX, p. 73.
[88] Stringer ‘A new wife for Alan of Galloway’ (1972), pp. 52-3.
[89] Glasgow Bishopric, Tome I, 167, p. 138.
[90] Glasgow Bishopric, Tome I, 168, p. 138.
[91] Calendar of Documents Ireland, Vol. I, 2804, p. 419.
[92] Matthew Paris, Vol. V, 1252, p. 341.
[93] Dugdale Monasticon V, Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire V, In Chronicis Abbatiæ Tynterne in Wallia, p. 271.
[94] Calendar of Documents Ireland, Vol. I, 3080, p. 459.
[95] Annals of Ireland, Vol. II, p. 314.
[96] Matthew Paris, Vol. V, 1252, p. 341.
[97] Dryburgh, 138, p. 99.
[98] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 32, p. 8.6


Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester and Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway
Per Weis [1992]:
     Ref #1 (Line 38-27): "Helen of Galloway (dau. by first wife), m. Roger de Quincy (53-28), d. 25 Apr. 1264, 2nd Earl of winchester, 1235, Constable of Scotland. (Old-CP VIII 169-170; SP IV 142; Banks I 469; N&Q 3rd Series II 466 for Galloway)"
     Ref #2 (Line 53-28): "Roger de Quincy, d. 25 Apr. 1264, 2nd Earl of winchester, Constable of Scotland, and a descendant of the English and Scottish Kings. (SP III 142; Old-CP VIII 169-170; Ganks I 469).”.25

Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester and Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway
Per Med Lands:
     "ELLEN of Galloway ([before 1205]-after 21 Nov 1245, bur Brackley). The Annales Londonienses name "Eleyn countesse de Wynton" as eldest of the three daughters of "la primere fille Davi" and "Aleyn de Gavei", naming "Margarete countesse de Ferreres et Eleyne la Zusche et la countesse de Bougham" as her three daughters[1194]. It is assumed that she was not born from Alan’s marriage to Margaret of Huntingdon as her descendants did not raise a claim to the Scottish throne in 1291. This is consistent with the date of marriage of one of her daughters being estimated to [1238]. The identity of Ellen’s mother as her father’s first wife is confirmed by her husband Roger de Quincy holding Kippax (linked to Alan’s first wife as shown above)[1195]. Ellen’s birth and marriage dates are estimated from her daughter who married in [1238] having given birth soon after that marriage. The Liber Pluscardensis records that the eldest daughter of "Alanus de Galway filius Rotholandi de Galway" married "Rogerus de Quinci comes Wintoniæ"[1196]. "Elena quondam filia Alani de Galeweya" donated "villam de Edeluestune" to the church of Glasgow by undated charter[1197]. "Rogerus de Quency constabularius Scocie et Elena uxor eius filia quondam Alani de Galweya" recognised the rights of the church of Glasgow to "villam de Edeluestune" by undated charter[1198].
     "m ([before 1223]) as his first wife, ROGER de Quincy Earl of Winchester, son of SAHER de Quincy Earl of Winchester & Margaret of Leicester (-25 Apr 1264, maybe bur Brackley). He is named son-in-law of Alan of Galloway by Matthew Paris, who does not name his wife[1199] but says in a later passage that she was "primogenita soror"[1200]. He succeeded his father-in-law in 1234 as hereditary Constable of Scotland, de iure uxoris."
Med Lands cites:
[1194] Annales Londonienses, p. 126.
[1195] Stringer ‘A new wife for Alan of Galloway’ (1972), pp. 52-3.
[1196] Liber Pluscardensis, Vol. I, Liber VII, CX, p. 73.
[1197] Glasgow Bishopric, Tome I, 167, p. 138.
[1198] Glasgow Bishopric, Tome I, 168, p. 138.
[1199] Matthew Paris, Vol. III, 1236, p. 365.
[1200] Matthew Paris, Vol. IV, 1246, p. 563.10

Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester was a witness to the Per Med Lands:
     "ELEANOR (-before 25 Oct 1274, bur Leeds Priory). The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire names "Agnes, secunda Isabella, tertia Matilda, quarta Sibilla, quinta Johanna, sexta Alianora, septima Agatha" as the seven daughters of "Willielmo de Ferrers comiti Derbiæ" and his wife "quarta filia…Willihelmi Marescalli…Sibilla", adding that "Alianora sexta filia" was "comitissa de Wintonia" and died childless[382]. A charter dated 28 Jun 1248 records that "Margaret late Countess of Lincoln…recovered her dower out of the lands in Ireland of W[alter] Marshall late Earl of Pembroke her husband" and that the dower was "taken out of the portions of the inheritance which accrued to William de Vescy and Agnes his wife, Reginald de Moun and Isabel his wife, Matilda de Kyme, Francis de Boun and Sibil his wife, William de Vallibus and Alienor his wife, John de Moun and Joan his wife, Agatha de Ferrers in the king’s custody, and Roger de Mortimer and Matilda his wife"[383]. A charter dated 26 May 1250 records the restoration of property, granted to "Margaret Countess of Lincoln", to "William de Vescy and Agnes his wife, Reginald de Moun and Isabel his wife, William de Fortibus and Matilda his wife, Francis de Boun and Sibil his wife, William de Vallibus and Alienor his wife, John de Moun and Joan his wife, Agatha de Ferrers in the king’s custody, Roger de Mortimer and Matilda his wife, and William de Cantilupe and Eva his wife"[384]. Her second marriage is confirmed by the Annals of Ireland which record that “Sibilla comitissa de Ferreys” had seven daughters (in order) “quinta, Elianora de Varis, quæ fuit uxor comitis Wintonie…”[385]. Matthew Paris records her (second) husband's remarriage soon after the death of his second wife, but does not name his third wife[386]. King Edward I ordered the the escheator of Ireland to take all the lands of the deceased "Alianora widow of Roger de Quency earl of Winchester" into the hands of the king by charter dated 25 Oct 1274[387].
     "m firstly WILLIAM de Vaux of Tharston and Wisset, son of --- (-before 14 Sep 1252). The executors of the will of "William de Vallibus formerly husband of Alienor de Ferrers, one of the heirs of W[alter] Marshall late Earl of Pembroke" requested restoration of his part of the inheritance by charter dated 9 May 1251[388].
     "m secondly (before 5 Dec 1252) as his third wife, ROGER de Quincy Earl of Winchester, son of SAHER de Quincy Earl of Winchester & his wife Margaret of Leicester (-25 Apr 1264, bur [Brackley]).
     "m thirdly (before 8 Sep 1267) as his second wife, ROGER de Leyburn of Elham, son of ROGER de Leyburn & his wife Eleanor de Thurnham (-[Oct] 1271)."
Med Lands cites:
[382] Dugdale Monasticon V, Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire V, In Chronicis Abbatiæ Tynterne in Wallia, p. 271.
[383] Calendar of Documents Ireland, Vol. I, 2949, p. 439.
[384] Calendar of Documents Ireland, Vol. I, 3080, p. 459.
[385] Annals of Ireland, Chartulary of Dublin St Mary’s Vol. II, p. 314.
[386] Matthew Paris, Vol. V, 1252, p. 341.
[387] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 32, p. 8.
[388] Calendar of Documents Ireland, Vol. I, 3132, p. 466.
with Eleanor/Alianore de Ferrers.17
Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester was a witness to the Per Racines et Histoire (Ferrers): “1) Eleanor de Ferrers + ~26/10/1274
     ép. 1) William de Vaux of Tharston and Wisset + avant 05/12/1252
     ép. 2) Roger de Quincy earl of Winchester + 25/04/1264
     ép. 3) avant 09/1267 Roger de Leybourne of Eltham + ~10/1271” with Eleanor/Alianore de Ferrers and William de Vaux of Tharston and Wisset.26 Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester was 2nd Earl Winchester of the Feb 1206/7 cr in 1235.22,27

Family 1

Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway b. b 1205, d. a 21 Nov 1245
Children

Family 2

Maud/Matilda de Bohun b. bt 1230 - 1232, d. 20 Oct 1252

Family 3

Eleanor/Alianore de Ferrers b. 1232, d. b 26 Oct 1274

Citations

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  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret 'FitzPernel' de Beaumont: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106763&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Roger de Quency: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027689&tree=LEO
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  11. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 34-35, de BOHUN 4:iii.
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud de Bohun: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027702&tree=LEO
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  14. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Vaux of Harrowden Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  15. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Earls of Derby, p. 197. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
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    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 53-28, p. 58. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  19. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 20 July 2020), memorial page for Sir Roger de Quincy (1200–25 Apr 1264), Find a Grave Memorial no. 112465137, citing St. Peter's Churchyard, Brackley, South Northamptonshire Borough, Northamptonshire, England; Maintained by Anne Shurtleff Stevens (contributor 46947920), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/112465137. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  20. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, de Bohun Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/bohun.html
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    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 74-2, p. 90. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
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  24. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_de_Quincy,_2nd_Earl_of_Winchester. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  25. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, Ref #1: p. 42, Line - 38-27; Ref #2: p. z, Line 53-28.
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  30. [S2335] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 26 Dec 2008: "Umfreville Family, Earls of Angus"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 26 Dec 2008. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 26 Dec Aug 2008."
  31. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth de Quincy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027693&tree=LEO
  32. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elena de Quincy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027697&tree=LEO
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  34. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 211, de QUINCY 4:iv.

Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway1

F, #4994, b. before 1205, d. after 21 November 1245
FatherAlan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland2,3,4,5 b. c 1175, d. 2 Feb 1324
Mother(?) de Crevequor6
ReferenceGAV21 EDV21
Last Edited10 Aug 2020
     Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway was born before 1205 at Galloway, Scotland.7,5 She married Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester, son of Saher IV de Quincy 1st Earl of Winchester and Margaret/Marguerite 'fitzPernel' de Beaumont, before 1223 at England;
His 1st wife.
Racines et Histoire (Quincy) says m. ca 1228 or 1214.2,5,8,9,10
Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway died after 21 November 1245 at England.11,1,5
Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway was buried after 21 November 1245 at St. Peter's Churchyard, Brackley, South Northamptonshire Borough, Northamptonshire, England,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     unknown, East Ayrshire, England
     DEATH     1245, England
     Second but eldest surviving daughter of Alan FitzRoland (Roland FitzUhtred), Lord of Galloway and his first wife, the daughter of Roger de Lacy. Granddaughter of Roland of Galloway and Eleanor/Helen de Morville, and Roger de Lacy, Constable of Chester.
     Helen was the first wife of Sir Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester, the eldest surviving son and heir to Saher de Quincy and Margaret de Beaumont. Her maritagium included the manor of Kippax, Yorkshire. They had three daughters:
* Margaret, wife of Sir William de Ferrers, Earl of Derby
* Elizabeth, wife of Sir Alexander de Comyn, Earl of Buchan
* Ellen, wife of Sir Alan la Zouche of Ashby La Zouche

     Helen was alive November of 1245, and buried at Brackley. Roger would marry another two times; to Maud de Bohun and Eleanor de Ferrers.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Alan de Galloway 1185–1234
     Spouse
          Roger de Quincy 1200–1264 (m. 1220)
     Siblings
          Devorguilla de Galloway 1218–1290
     Children
          Margaret De Quincy Ferrers 1218–1281
          Elizabeth de Quincy 1221–1282
          Helen De Quincy La Zouche 1221–1296
     BURIAL     St. Peter's Churchyard, Brackley, South Northamptonshire Borough, Northamptonshire, England
     Created by: Anne Shurtleff Stevens
     Added: 19 Jun 2013
     Find a Grave Memorial 112596903.12
     Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway and Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester
Per ODNB: "Roger himself married three times: first Helen, eldest daughter of Alan, lord of Galloway and constable of Scotland; second Maud, daughter of Humphrey (IV) de Bohun, earl of Hereford (d. 1275); and third Eleanor, daughter by his first marriage of William de Ferrers, earl of Derby, by whom he was survived."13

Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway and Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester
Per Med Lands:
     "ROGER de Quincy (-25 Apr 1264, bur [Brackley]). "Seyerus de Quinci comes Wintonie" donated revenue from "molendino meo de Locres" to St Andrew´s priory, with the consent of "Rogeri filii et heredis mei", by undated charter, dated to [1217/18], witnessed by "Rogero de Quinci herede meo, Simone de Quinci persona de Louchres, Patricio filio Nesii…Simonis de Quinci"[76]. "Rogerus de Quinci filius Seyeri comitis Wintonie" confirmed his father´s donation of a mill to St Andrew´s priory by undated charter, dated to [1217/18], witnessed by "Dño Seyero patre meo comite Wintonie, Symone de Quinci persona de Louchres, Patricio filio Nesii…Gilleberto clerico, Symonis de Quinci, Henrico clerico, Symonis de Quinci"[77]. He succeeded his father in 1219 as Earl of Winchester, but was not recognised as such until after his mother's death[78]. "Rogerius de Quinci" confirmed donations of land "in territorio de Gasc", where the men of "domini patris mei comitis Wintonie" pastured animals, to Inchaffray Abbey by charter dated to [1220], witnessed by "Gilberto comite de Stratherne, Roberto et Fergus filiis suis…"[79]. He succeeded his father-in-law in 1234 as hereditary Constable of Scotland, de iure uxoris. "Rogerus de Quency constabularius Scocie et Elena uxor eius filia quondam Alani de Galweya" recognised the rights of the church of Glasgow to "villam de Edeluestune" by undated charter[80]. "Rogerus de Quincy" donated "boscum nostrum de Gleddiswod" to Dryburgh monastery, for the souls of "nostre et Alyenore sponse mee et…Alani de Galwythya et Helene filie sue quondam sponse nostro", by undated charter[81]. John of Fordun´s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the death in 1264 of "Rogerus de Quinci comes Wincestriæ"[82]. An undated writ "48 Hen III", after the death of "Roger de Quency earl of Winchester", records that he died "on the day of St Mark the Evangelist" and names "Henry de Lascy aged 14 on the day of the Epiphany next, is his heir"[83]. Another writ dated 2 Nov "55 Hen III", after the death of "Roger de Quency alias de Quinsy sometime earl of Winchester", records further details about his landholdings[84]. His earldom reverted to the crown on his death.
     "m firstly ([before 1223]) ELLEN of Galloway, daughter of ALAN Lord of Galloway & his first wife --- de Lacy ([before 1205]-after 21 Nov 1245, bur Brackley). The Annales Londonienses name "Eleyn countesse de Wynton" as eldest of the three daughters of "la primere fille Davi" and "Aleyn de Gavei", naming "Margarete countesse de Ferreres et Eleyne la Zusche et la countesse de Bougham" as her three daughters[85]. Earl Roger's first marriage with the daughter of Alan of Galloway is recorded by Matthew Paris[86]. The Liber Pluscardensis records that the eldest daughter of "Alanus de Galway filius Rotholandi de Galway" married "Rogerus de Quinci comes Wintoniæ"[87]. The identity of Ellen’s mother as her father’s first wife is confirmed by her husband Roger de Quincy holding Kippax (linked to Alan’s first wife as shown above)[88]. Ellen’s birth and marriage dates are estimated from her daughter who married in [1238] having given birth soon after that marriage. "Elena quondam filia Alani de Galeweya" donated "villam de Edeluestune" to the church of Glasgow by undated charter[89]. "Rogerus de Quency constabularius Scocie et Elena uxor eius filia quondam Alani de Galweya" recognised the rights of the church of Glasgow to "villam de Edeluestune" by undated charter[90].
     "m secondly (before 5 Jun 1250) as her second husband, MATILDA de Bohun, widow of ANSELM Marshal Earl of Pembroke, daughter of HUMPHREY de Bohun Earl of Hereford and Essex & his wife Mathilde de Lusignan (-Groby, Lincolnshire 20 Oct 1252, bur Brackley80). A charter dated 19 Jan 1246 mandates the grant to "Matilda who was the wife of Anselm Marshall…[of] 60 librates of land in Ireland, for her maintenance until the king shall cause her dower to be assigned to her out of Anselm´s lands"[91]. Her death is recorded by Matthew Paris, who states that she was daughter of the Earl of Hereford but does not give her own name, that she was her husband's second wife[92].
     "m thirdly (before 5 Dec 1252) as her second husband, ELEANOR Ferrers, widow of WILLIAM de Vaux, daughter of WILLIAM de Ferrers Earl of Derby & his first wife Sibyl Marshal of Pembroke (-before 20 Oct 1274, bur Leeds Priory). The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire names "Agnes, secunda Isabella, tertia Matilda, quarta Sibilla, quinta Johanna, sexta Alianora, septima Agatha" as the seven daughters of "Willielmo de Ferrers comiti Derbiæ" and his wife "quarta filia…Willihelmi Marescalli…Sibilla", adding that "Alianora sexta filia" was "comitissa de Wintonia" and died childless[93]. A charter dated 26 May 1250 records the restoration of property, granted to "Margaret Countess of Lincoln", to "William de Vescy and Agnes his wife, Reginald de Moun and Isabel his wife, William de Fortibus and Matilda his wife, Francis de Boun and Sibil his wife, William de Vallibus and Alienor his wife, John de Moun and Joan his wife, Agatha de Ferrers in the king´s custody, Roger de Mortimer and Matilda his wife, and William de Cantilupe and Eva his wife"[94]. Her second marriage is confirmed by the Annals of Ireland which record that “Sibilla comitissa de Ferreys” had seven daughters (in order) “quinta, Elianora de Varis, quæ fuit uxor comitis Wintonie…”[95]. Matthew Paris records her husband's remarriage soon after the death of his second wife, but does not name his third wife[96]. "Rogerus de Quincy" donated "boscum nostrum de Gleddiswod" to Dryburgh monastery, for the souls of "nostre et Alyenore sponse mee et…Alani de Galwythya et Helene filie sue quondam sponse nostro", by undated charter[97]. She married thirdly (1267) as his second wife, Roger de Leyburn. King Edward I ordered the the escheator of Ireland to take all the lands of the deceased "Alianora widow of Roger de Quency earl of Winchester" into the hands of the king by charter dated 25 Oct 1274[98]."
Med Lands cites:
[76] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 255.
[77] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 256.
[78] CP XII/2 751.
[79] Inchaffray, XLII, p. 36.
[80] Glasgow Bishopric, Tome I, 168, p. 138.
[81] Dryburgh, 138, p. 99.
[82] Joannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. X, Cap. XVIII, p. 102.
[83] Inquisitions Post Mortem, Vol. I, Henry III (London), 587, p. 187.
[84] Inquisitions Post Mortem, Vol. I, Henry III, 776, p. 254.
[85] Annales Londonienses, p. 126.
[86] Matthew Paris, Vol. V, 1252, p. 341.
[87] Liber Pluscardensis, Vol. I, Liber VII, CX, p. 73.
[88] Stringer ‘A new wife for Alan of Galloway’ (1972), pp. 52-3.
[89] Glasgow Bishopric, Tome I, 167, p. 138.
[90] Glasgow Bishopric, Tome I, 168, p. 138.
[91] Calendar of Documents Ireland, Vol. I, 2804, p. 419.
[92] Matthew Paris, Vol. V, 1252, p. 341.
[93] Dugdale Monasticon V, Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire V, In Chronicis Abbatiæ Tynterne in Wallia, p. 271.
[94] Calendar of Documents Ireland, Vol. I, 3080, p. 459.
[95] Annals of Ireland, Vol. II, p. 314.
[96] Matthew Paris, Vol. V, 1252, p. 341.
[97] Dryburgh, 138, p. 99.
[98] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 32, p. 8.9


Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway and Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester
Per Racines et Histoire (Quincy): “2) Roger de Quincy ° ~ 1195 (Buckley ou Winchester) + 25/04/1264 (Brackley, Ecosse ou Terre Sainte, croisé ?), 2ème earl of Winchester, Connétable d’Ecosse
     ép. 1) ~1228 (ou 1214 ?) Helen Nicalan of Galloway ° ~1200 (Carrick, Ecosse) + ~21/11/1245 (Brackley) (fille d’Alan Mac Donald, Lord of Galloway et de Ragnhild Reginaldsdottir (alias Hilda ou Helen de Lisle)
     ép. 2) Maud, comtesse de Pembroke ° ~1180 (Chester) + 1242/43 (fille d’Humphrey de Bohun et d’Alienor de Braose)
     ép. 3) Alienor Ferrers (fille de William et d’Agnès de Meschines) ”.10

Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway
Per Genealogics:
     “Helen was a daughter and co-heiress of Alan FitzRoland, lord of Galloway, constable of Scotland, and his first wife. Before 1234 Helen married Roger de Quincy, 2nd earl of Winchester, son of Saher de Quincy, 1st earl of Winchester, and Margaret 'FitzPernel' de Beaumont. Although Helen was the first of Roger's three wives, his only descendants were three daughters by Helen, all of whom would have progeny. The eldest, Margaret, married William de Ferrières, 5th earl of Derby; the second, Elizabeth, married Alexander Comyn, 2nd earl of Buchan; the third, Elena, married Sir Alan La Zouche, justiciar of Ireland. Helen died after 21 November 1245.”.2

Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway
This is the same person as ”Helen of Galloway” at Wikipedia.14

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: I 155.
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: XII 751.2
GAV-21 EDV-21 GKJ-22.

Reference: Christou Gedcom.15

Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway and Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester
Per Med Lands:
     "ELLEN of Galloway ([before 1205]-after 21 Nov 1245, bur Brackley). The Annales Londonienses name "Eleyn countesse de Wynton" as eldest of the three daughters of "la primere fille Davi" and "Aleyn de Gavei", naming "Margarete countesse de Ferreres et Eleyne la Zusche et la countesse de Bougham" as her three daughters[1194]. It is assumed that she was not born from Alan’s marriage to Margaret of Huntingdon as her descendants did not raise a claim to the Scottish throne in 1291. This is consistent with the date of marriage of one of her daughters being estimated to [1238]. The identity of Ellen’s mother as her father’s first wife is confirmed by her husband Roger de Quincy holding Kippax (linked to Alan’s first wife as shown above)[1195]. Ellen’s birth and marriage dates are estimated from her daughter who married in [1238] having given birth soon after that marriage. The Liber Pluscardensis records that the eldest daughter of "Alanus de Galway filius Rotholandi de Galway" married "Rogerus de Quinci comes Wintoniæ"[1196]. "Elena quondam filia Alani de Galeweya" donated "villam de Edeluestune" to the church of Glasgow by undated charter[1197]. "Rogerus de Quency constabularius Scocie et Elena uxor eius filia quondam Alani de Galweya" recognised the rights of the church of Glasgow to "villam de Edeluestune" by undated charter[1198].
     "m ([before 1223]) as his first wife, ROGER de Quincy Earl of Winchester, son of SAHER de Quincy Earl of Winchester & Margaret of Leicester (-25 Apr 1264, maybe bur Brackley). He is named son-in-law of Alan of Galloway by Matthew Paris, who does not name his wife[1199] but says in a later passage that she was "primogenita soror"[1200]. He succeeded his father-in-law in 1234 as hereditary Constable of Scotland, de iure uxoris."
Med Lands cites:
[1194] Annales Londonienses, p. 126.
[1195] Stringer ‘A new wife for Alan of Galloway’ (1972), pp. 52-3.
[1196] Liber Pluscardensis, Vol. I, Liber VII, CX, p. 73.
[1197] Glasgow Bishopric, Tome I, 167, p. 138.
[1198] Glasgow Bishopric, Tome I, 168, p. 138.
[1199] Matthew Paris, Vol. III, 1236, p. 365.
[1200] Matthew Paris, Vol. IV, 1246, p. 563.5


Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway and Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester
Per Weis [1992]:
     Ref #1 (Line 38-27): "Helen of Galloway (dau. by first wife), m. Roger de Quincy (53-28), d. 25 Apr. 1264, 2nd Earl of winchester, 1235, Constable of Scotland. (Old-CP VIII 169-170; SP IV 142; Banks I 469; N&Q 3rd Series II 466 for Galloway)"
     Ref #2 (Line 53-28): "Roger de Quincy, d. 25 Apr. 1264, 2nd Earl of winchester, Constable of Scotland, and a descendant of the English and Scottish Kings. (SP III 142; Old-CP VIII 169-170; Ganks I 469).”.16

Family

Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester b. c 1200, d. 25 Apr 1264
Children

Citations

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  7. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 102-103, GALLOWAY 4. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
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    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
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  12. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 20 July 2020), memorial page for Helen Galloway Quincy (unknown–1245), Find a Grave Memorial no. 112596903, citing St. Peter's Churchyard, Brackley, South Northamptonshire Borough, Northamptonshire, England; Maintained by Anne Shurtleff Stevens (contributor 46947920), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/112596903. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  13. [S2286] Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, online http://oxforddnb.com/index/, https://www.oxforddnb.com/view/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-22966. Hereinafter cited as ODNB - Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.
  14. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_of_Galloway. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  15. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  16. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), Ref #1: p. 42, Line - 38-27; Ref #2: p. z, Line 53-28. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  17. [S2335] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 26 Dec 2008: "Umfreville Family, Earls of Angus"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 26 Dec 2008. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 26 Dec Aug 2008."
  18. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth de Quincy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027693&tree=LEO
  19. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elena de Quincy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027697&tree=LEO
  20. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL2.htm#ElenaQuincydiedbefore20Aug1296
  21. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 211, de QUINCY 4:iv.

Margaret de Quincy1

F, #4995, b. 1218, d. circa 12 March 1280/81
FatherRoger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester2,3,4 b. c 1200, d. 25 Apr 1264
MotherEllen/Helen (?) of Galloway5,4 b. b 1205, d. a 21 Nov 1245
ReferenceGAV21 EDV21
Last Edited20 Jul 2020
     Margaret de Quincy was born in 1218. She married William de Ferrers 5th Earl of Derby, 1st Earl of Westmoreland, son of William de Ferrers 4th Earl of Derby, Lord of Abergavenny and Agnes Kevelioc of Chester, Lady of Chartley, circa 1238 at Derby, Derbyshire, England; his 2nd wife.6,1,7
Margaret de Quincy died circa 12 March 1280/81.
     GAV-21 EDV-21 GKJ-21.

Margaret de Quincy
Weis AR: second wife Margaret de Quincy, first wife was Sibyl Marshall.8,9

Family

William de Ferrers 5th Earl of Derby, 1st Earl of Westmoreland b. c 1193, d. bt 24 May 1254 - 28 May 1254
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 211, de QUINCY 4:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Berkeley 6: p. 96. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Roger de Quincy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027689&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL2.htm#RogerQuincyWinchesterdied1264. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Helen of Galloway: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027690&tree=LEO
  6. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 127-30, p. 115. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  7. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Earls of Derby, p. 197. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  8. [S616] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 26 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 18, Ed. 1, Family #18-0770 (n.p.: Release date: March 27, 1998, unknown publish date).
  9. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139195&tree=LEO
  11. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Ferrers 7: p. 307.
  12. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.8. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00054201&tree=LEO

William de Ferrers 5th Earl of Derby, 1st Earl of Westmoreland1

M, #4996, b. circa 1193, d. between 24 May 1254 and 28 May 1254
FatherWilliam de Ferrers 4th Earl of Derby, Lord of Abergavenny b. bt 1162 - 1168, d. 22 Sep 1247
MotherAgnes Kevelioc of Chester, Lady of Chartley b. 1174, d. 2 Nov 1247
ReferenceGAV21 EDV21
Last Edited20 Jul 2020
     William de Ferrers 5th Earl of Derby, 1st Earl of Westmoreland was born circa 1193 at Derby, Derbyshire, England; Weis says b. ca 1193; Racines et Histoire says b. 1193/1200.2 He married Sybil Marshall, daughter of William Marshal 1st Earl of Pembroke and Isabella de Clare Countess of Strigoil, before 14 May 1219; his 1st wife.2,3 William de Ferrers 5th Earl of Derby, 1st Earl of Westmoreland married Margaret de Quincy, daughter of Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester and Ellen/Helen (?) of Galloway, circa 1238 at Derby, Derbyshire, England; his 2nd wife.2,4,5
William de Ferrers 5th Earl of Derby, 1st Earl of Westmoreland was buried on 31 March 1254.2


William de Ferrers 5th Earl of Derby, 1st Earl of Westmoreland died between 24 May 1254 and 28 May 1254 at Evington, Leicestershire, England.1
     GAV-21 EDV-21 GKJ-21. He was 5th Earl of Derby of the 1138 cr.6,7

William de Ferrers 5th Earl of Derby, 1st Earl of Westmoreland
Weis AR: 5th Earl of Derby said to m1 Sibilla Marshall 2nd Margaret de Quincy

History of Rutland.8 He was 1st Earl of Westmoreland in 1247.

Family 1

Sybil Marshall b. 1198, d. b 1238
Children

Family 2

Margaret de Quincy b. 1218, d. c 12 Mar 1280/81
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 84, de FERRERS 12:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 127-30, p. 115. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  3. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 149, MARSHAL 3:viii.
  4. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 211, de QUINCY 4:i.
  5. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Earls of Derby, p. 197. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  6. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 88-3, p. 106. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  7. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Vernon, Baron Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  8. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  9. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis MCS-5, line 149B-3, p. 182.
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00125470&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  11. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited & Extinct Peerages, p. 33.
  12. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 210-211, de QUINCY 4.
  13. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Vaux of Harrowden Family Page.
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alianore de Ferrers: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139194&tree=LEO
  15. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#EleanorFerrersdied1274. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  16. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139195&tree=LEO
  17. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Ferrers 7: p. 307. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  18. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.8. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  19. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's Dromant, Abeyant, Forgeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 44.
  20. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Berkeley 6: p. 96.
  21. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00054201&tree=LEO

Sir Robert de Courtenay Lord of Okehampton

M, #4997, b. circa 1183, d. circa 27 July 1242
FatherRenaud (Reginald) de Courtenay b. c 1150, d. 27 Sep 1194
MotherHawise de Courcy Lady of Okehampton d. 31 Jul 1219
ReferenceGAV22 EDV22
Last Edited29 Sep 2002
     Sir Robert de Courtenay Lord of Okehampton was buried at Fort Abbey, Devonshire, England.1

He married Mary de Vernon (de Reviers), daughter of William de Vernon 5th/6th Earl of Devon and Maud (Mabel or Mabirie) de Beaumont.1 Sir Robert de Courtenay Lord of Okehampton was born circa 1183 at England.1
Sir Robert de Courtenay Lord of Okehampton died circa 27 July 1242 at England.1
     He was Lord of Okehampton at Okehampton, Devonshire, England.1,2

Sir Robert de Courtenay Lord of Okehampton
ROBERT de COURTENAY; feudal Lord of Okehampton and Sutton Courtenay; Sheriff Devon and Oxon, Castellan Exeter and Oxford, inherited 31 July 1219 from his mother the great Honour of Okehampton in Devon, amounting to 92 knights' fees; KING JOHN granted him the right to coin tin in Devon and Cornwall in 1215; m Mary, yst dau of William de Reviers or de Vernon, 5th Earl of Devon of the 1141 cr and Lord of the Isle of Wight (d preliminary remarks above), and widow of Pierre de Preaux; d 26 July 1242, leaving issue.2 GAV-22 EDV-22 GKJ-25.

Family

Mary de Vernon (de Reviers) b. bt 1164 - 1203, d. bt 1197 - 1258
Children

Citations

  1. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 138-26, p. 122. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I2112

Mary de Vernon (de Reviers)1

F, #4998, b. between 1164 and 1203, d. between 1197 and 1258
FatherWilliam de Vernon 5th/6th Earl of Devon1 b. 1155, d. Sep 1217
MotherMaud (Mabel or Mabirie) de Beaumont1 d. a 1 May 1204
ReferenceGAV22 EDV22
Last Edited14 May 2003
     Mary de Vernon (de Reviers) married Sir Robert de Courtenay Lord of Okehampton, son of Renaud (Reginald) de Courtenay and Hawise de Courcy Lady of Okehampton.2 Mary de Vernon (de Reviers) was born between 1164 and 1203; date is WFT estimate.3
Mary de Vernon (de Reviers) died between 1197 and 1258; date is WFT estimate.3 She married Sir Peter de Prouz of Chagford, co. Devon in 1200.4
     Mary de Vernon (de Reviers)
"Mary, m. Robert de Courtenay, feudal Baron of Okehampton, son and successor of Sir Reginald de Courtenay and Maude de Abrincis...and conveyed to her husband the head of the Barony of Devonshire, with the castle of Plimton. of this marriage, were
Sir Hugh de Courtenay, successor to his father.
Sir William de Courtenay, surnamed Musberrie, who m. Joane, dau. of Thomas Basset, but d. s. p.
Hauise, m. to John de Nevil.
Robert de Courtenay, Baron of Okehampton, was s. by his elder son, Sir Hugh de Courtenay, as 3rd Baron of Okehampton....His lordship d. 28 February 1291."1 GAV-22 EDV-22 GKJ-25.

Family 2

Sir Robert de Courtenay Lord of Okehampton b. c 1183, d. c 27 Jul 1242
Children

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Courtenay- Barons Courtenay, Earls of Devon, p. 140. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 138-26, p. 122. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  3. [S616] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 26 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 18, Ed. 1, Family #18-0770 (n.p.: Release date: March 27, 1998, unknown publish date).
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 50-28, p. 52.
  5. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I2112

Renaud (Reginald) de Courtenay1

M, #4999, b. circa 1150, d. 27 September 1194
FatherRenaud de Courtenay Lord of Courtenay b. c 1125, d. Oct-Dec 1190
MotherHawise/Hedwige du Donjon2 b. c 1113, d. bt 1151 - 1208
ReferenceGAV23 EDV24
Last Edited29 Sep 2002
     Renaud (Reginald) de Courtenay was buried at Fort Abbey, Devonshire, England.3

He was born circa 1150 at Sutton, Berkshire, England.4,3 He married Hawise de Courcy Lady of Okehampton, daughter of William de Courcy and Maud (?) d'Avranches, Dame du Sap, Lady of Okehampton, before 1178.3,1
Renaud (Reginald) de Courtenay died on 27 September 1194 at Courtenay, Galinois, France.4,3,1
     He was Baron of Oakhampton (jure uxoris.)3

Renaud (Reginald) de Courtenay
RENAUD de COURTENAY; Sheriff Devon and Castellan Exeter; m by 1178 Hawise (d 31 July 1219), feudal Ldy of Okehampton, dau and coheir of William de Crucy (or Geoffrey de Crunes (Craon)) by his w Maud d'Avranches (see above), the latter being heiress of Baldwin Fitz Gilbert's family, which had held the Honour of Okehampton and the Shrievalty of Devon 1080-1142, and d 27 Sept 1194, leaving issue.4 GAV-23 EDV-23 GKJ-26.

Family

Hawise de Courcy Lady of Okehampton d. 31 Jul 1219
Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I10678
  3. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 138-25, p. 122. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  4. [S616] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 26 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 18, Ed. 1, Family #18-0770 (n.p.: Release date: March 27, 1998, unknown publish date).

Hawise de Courcy Lady of Okehampton1

F, #5000, d. 31 July 1219
FatherWilliam de Courcy
MotherMaud (?) d'Avranches, Dame du Sap, Lady of Okehampton d. 21 Sep 1173
ReferenceGAV23 EDV23
Last Edited29 Sep 2002
     Hawise de Courcy Lady of Okehampton married Renaud (Reginald) de Courtenay, son of Renaud de Courtenay Lord of Courtenay and Hawise/Hedwige du Donjon, before 1178.2,1
Hawise de Courcy Lady of Okehampton died on 31 July 1219.3,2
     GAV-23 EDV-23 GKJ-26.

Hawise de Courcy Lady of Okehampton
(an unknown value.)3

Family

Renaud (Reginald) de Courtenay b. c 1150, d. 27 Sep 1194
Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 138-25, p. 122. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  3. [S616] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 26 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 18, Ed. 1, Family #18-0770 (n.p.: Release date: March 27, 1998, unknown publish date).

Renaud de Courtenay Lord of Courtenay1,2

M, #5001, b. circa 1125, d. Oct-Dec 1190
FatherMilesMilo de Courtenay Sire of Courtenay b. 1069, d. a 1127
MotherErmengarde de Nevers b. c 1073, d. 1095
ReferenceGAV23 EDV24
Last Edited8 Aug 2009
     Renaud de Courtenay Lord of Courtenay died Oct-Dec 1190.3 He married Hawise/Hedwige du Donjon, daughter of Frederic du Donjon.4,2 Renaud de Courtenay Lord of Courtenay married Hawise d'Aincourt.5 Renaud de Courtenay Lord of Courtenay was born circa 1125.3 He married Maud (?) Dame du Sap, daughter of Robert fitz Edith Baron of Okehampton and Maud (?) d'Avranches, Dame du Sap, Lady of Okehampton.1,6
     GAV-23 EDV-23 GKJ-24.

Renaud de Courtenay Lord of Courtenay
RENAUD de COURTENAY, Lord of Courtenay; accompanied LOUIS VII OF FRANCE on Second Crusade but quarrelled with him so that LOUIS seized his French possessions and bestowed them, with Renaud's dau in marriage, on his own yr bro Pierre; RENAUD subsequently threw in his lot with the English kings and was granted the lordship of Sutton (now Sutton Courtenay), on the Berks-Oxon borders, by HENRY II 1161; accompanied HENRY II to Wexford in the Irish expedition of 1172; m 1st Hedwige (living 1148-58), sis of Guy du Donjon; m 2nd Maud, Dame du Sap (dsp 1224), dau of Robert Fitz Roy (illegitimate s of HENRY I OF ENGLAND) by his w Maud d'Avranches, and d c 1192, leaving issue by his 1st wife.1

Renaud de Courtenay Lord of Courtenay
(an unknown value.)7

Family 2

Hawise/Hedwige du Donjon b. c 1113, d. bt 1151 - 1208
Children

Family 3

Maud (?) Dame du Sap d. 1224

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaumont-en-Gâtinais.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 138-24, pp. 121-122. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  4. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I10682
  5. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I31387
  6. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  7. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 138-24, pp. 121-122: [quote] ...witness in 1150 at Rouen in Normandy of charter of Henry, duke of Normandy (later Henry II of England); in 1160 received grant of manor of Sutton, co. Berks, from the king; from that date in constant attendance on the king, perh. a royal secretary; in 1171 accompanied the king in his campaign in Ireland; appears holding land in Devon for first time 1175-1176; in the king's train on his travels in England and France; m. (1) an unidentified woman, mother of son Reginald; m. (2) after 1172 Maud, dau. Robert Fitz Edith (illegitimate son of King Henry I of England, by Edith, dau. of Forn), bu Maud d'Avranches de Courcy, widow of William de Courcy [end quote].
  8. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I31374
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert Courtenay, of Sutton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076159&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  10. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet4.html
  11. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 7 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet7.html

Hawise/Hedwige du Donjon1

F, #5002, b. circa 1113, d. between 1151 and 1208
FatherFrederic du Donjon b. c 1085, d. bt 1117 - 1176
ReferenceGAV23 EDV23
Last Edited8 Aug 2009
     Hawise/Hedwige du Donjon married Renaud de Courtenay Lord of Courtenay, son of MilesMilo de Courtenay Sire of Courtenay and Ermengarde de Nevers.2,3 Hawise/Hedwige du Donjon was born circa 1113 at Donjon, Allier, France.2 She was born in 1113 at Corbeil, France.4
Hawise/Hedwige du Donjon died between 1151 and 1208; WFT Est.5
     Hawise/Hedwige du Donjon
(an unknown value.)4,5 GAV-23 EDV-23. She was living in 1158.1

Family

Renaud de Courtenay Lord of Courtenay b. c 1125, d. Oct-Dec 1190
Children

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I10682
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaumont-en-Gâtinais.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S616] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 26 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 18, Ed. 1, Family #18-0770 (n.p.: Release date: March 27, 1998, unknown publish date).
  5. [S619] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 27 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 6, Ed. 1, Family #6-1556 (n.p.: Release date: August 22, 1996, unknown publish date).
  6. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I10678

MilesMilo de Courtenay Sire of Courtenay1

M, #5003, b. 1069, d. after 1127
FatherJosceline I de Courtenay Sire de Courtenay2,1,3 b. bt 1020 - 1034, d. a 1065
MotherIsabel/Elizabeth de Monthléry4,1 b. c 1040
ReferenceGAV24 EDV25
Last Edited24 Mar 2020
     MilesMilo de Courtenay Sire of Courtenay was born circa 1069 at Courtenay, Loiret, France.5 He was born in 1069 at Courtenay, Galinois, France.6 He married Ermengarde de Nevers, daughter of Renaud II de Nevers Count of Nevers & Auxerre and Ita Raymonde de Forez comtesse de Forez, circa 1095 at France.7,8,1
MilesMilo de Courtenay Sire of Courtenay died after 1127 at France.5,7,1
     He was fndr Cistercian Abbey of Fontaine-Jean.8 GAV-24 EDV-25 GKJ-25.

Family

Ermengarde de Nevers b. c 1073, d. 1095
Children

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaumont-en-Gâtinais.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Josceline I de Courtenay: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028679&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Courtenay, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Courtenay.pdf
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elisabeth de Monthléry: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028680&tree=LEO
  5. [S619] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 27 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 6, Ed. 1, Family #6-1556 (n.p.: Release date: August 22, 1996, unknown publish date).
  6. [S616] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 26 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 18, Ed. 1, Family #18-0770 (n.p.: Release date: March 27, 1998, unknown publish date).
  7. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 107-26, p. 100. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  8. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Ermengarde de Nevers1

F, #5004, b. circa 1073, d. 1095
FatherRenaud II de Nevers Count of Nevers & Auxerre2,1,3 b. c 1047, d. 5 Aug 1089
MotherIta Raymonde de Forez comtesse de Forez1,4,5 b. 1055
ReferenceGAV24 EDV24
Last Edited8 Sep 2020
     Ermengarde de Nevers was born circa 1073 at Nevers, Nievre, France.6,7 She married MilesMilo de Courtenay Sire of Courtenay, son of Josceline I de Courtenay Sire de Courtenay and Isabel/Elizabeth de Monthléry, circa 1095 at France.8,9,10
Ermengarde de Nevers died in 1095 at France.7,6
     GAV-24 EDV-24.

Ermengarde de Nevers
(an unknown value.)6,7
Ermengarde de Nevers was a witness to the Per Racines et Histoire (Nevers): “1) Renaud II de Nevers ° ~1055/60 +X 05/08/1089 comte de Nevers et d’Auxerre (1083)
     ép. 1) (divorce ?) Ita Raymonde de Lyon (alias de Forez), comtesse douairière de Forez (fille d’Artaud II, comte de Lyon et de Forez, et de Raymonde (alias Ide) ; ép. 2) avant 1085 GuiguesRaymond d’Albon)
     ép. 2) Agnès de Beaugency ° 1069 (fille de Lancelin II (alias Landri), seigneur de Beaugency ; veuve de Robert de Villeneuil + après 02/1069)” with Renaud II de Nevers Count of Nevers & Auxerre and Ita Raymonde de Forez comtesse de Forez.1

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’Auxerre, Nevers & Tonnerre, p. 8: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Auxerre-Nevers-Tonnerre.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Renaud II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029104&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2164] Roglo Genealogical database, online http://roglo.eu/roglo, Renaud de Nevers: http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en;p=renaud;n=de+nevers;oc=2. Hereinafter cited as Roglo Database.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ita-Raimonde de Lyon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076151&tree=LEO
  5. [S2164] Roglo Database, online http://roglo.eu/roglo, Ide Raymonde de Forez: http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en;p=ide+raymonde;n=de+forez;.
  6. [S616] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 26 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 18, Ed. 1, Family #18-0770 (n.p.: Release date: March 27, 1998, unknown publish date).
  7. [S619] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 27 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 6, Ed. 1, Family #6-1556 (n.p.: Release date: August 22, 1996, unknown publish date).
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 107-26, p. 100. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  9. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  10. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaumont-en-Gâtinais.pdf, p. 2.

Renaud II de Nevers Count of Nevers & Auxerre1,2,3,4

M, #5005, b. circa 1047, d. 5 August 1089
FatherGuillaume I (?) Comte de Nevers & Auxerre5,6,7,2,3,1,4 b. c 1030, d. bt 10 Jun 1098 - 20 Jun 1100
MotherErmengarde (?) Comtesse de Tonnerre8,7,2,1,3,4 b. bt 1023 - 1026, d. b 1090
ReferenceGAV25 EDV25
Last Edited8 Sep 2020
     Renaud II de Nevers Count of Nevers & Auxerre and Ita Raymonde de Forez comtesse de Forez were divorced.2,4,9 Renaud II de Nevers Count of Nevers & Auxerre married Ita Raymonde de Forez comtesse de Forez, daughter of Artaud II/IV de Forez Comte de Lyon et de Forez and Raimonde/Raymodis (?);
Her 1st husband; his 1st wife (later divorced). Genealogy.EU says m. ca 1091; Med Lands says m. 1085 or before.10,3,4,9,11 Renaud II de Nevers Count of Nevers & Auxerre was born circa 1047 at Nevers, Nievre, France.12,13 He married Agnès de Beaugency, daughter of Lancelin II (Landry) de Beaugency seigneur de Beaugency and Alberga (?), in 1075;
His 2nd wife; Her 2nd husband. Roglo says m. aft 1075.2,3,1,4,14,15
Renaud II de Nevers Count of Nevers & Auxerre died on 5 August 1089; Killed.12,16,2,3
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 59, 204.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:716.3
GAV-25 EDV-25.

Renaud II de Nevers Count of Nevers & Auxerre
This is the same person as ”Renauld II, Count of Nevers” at Wikipedia and as ”Renaud II de Nevers” at Wikipédia (FR).17,18

Renaud II de Nevers Count of Nevers & Auxerre and Ita Raymonde de Forez comtesse de Forez
Per Racines et Histoire (Nevers): “1) Renaud II de Nevers ° ~1055/60 +X 05/08/1089 comte de Nevers et d’Auxerre (1083)
     ép. 1) (divorce ?) Ita Raymonde de Lyon (alias de Forez), comtesse douairière de Forez (fille d’Artaud II, comte de Lyon et de Forez, et de Raymonde (alias Ide) ; ép. 2) avant 1085 GuiguesRaymond d’Albon)
     ép. 2) Agnès de Beaugency ° 1069 (fille de Lancelin II (alias Landri), seigneur de Beaugency ; veuve de Robert de Villeneuil + après 02/1069)”.6

Renaud II de Nevers Count of Nevers & Auxerre and Ita Raymonde de Forez comtesse de Forez
Per Med Lands:
     "RENAUD [II] de Nevers (-killed 5 Aug 1089). The Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum names "Guillelmum et Renaldum" as the two sons of "Guillelmus…I", stating that Renaud possessed "Malliacum et Huben, duo nobilia castra"[85]. Although the wording of this passage suggests that Guillaume was the older son, the charter dated 4 Mar 1063 subscribed by "filii mei Raginaldi, Wilelmi, Rotberti" after "Wilelmus comes"[86] is more likely to show the correct order of birth of the brothers. He and his brothers are named in their father's 1083 charter[87]. The necrology of Auxerre cathedral records that "Rainaldus Willelmi comitis filius" was killed 5 Aug[88].
     "m firstly ([divorced]) [as her first husband,] [ITA Raymonde] de Forez, daughter of ARTAUD [II] Comte de Forez et de Lyon & his wife Raymonde ---. The Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum records that "Guillelmus…[filios]…Renaldum" married firstly "filiam unicam [Artaldi] comitis Foratensis"[89]. [She married secondly (before 1085) Guigues Raymond d'Albon.] La Mure’s Histoire des Comtes de Forez states that "Guy-Raymond de Viennois" married "Ide-Raymonde de Forez, fille d’Artaud V…comte de Lyon et de Forez et d’Ide son épouse" and refers to the couple’s donation of "quelques terres situées au pays de Forez" to Cluny dated 1085, adding that the property in question was Ita’s dowry[90]. La Mure does not quote the charter in question nor provide a precise source reference, apart from referring to Guichenon’s Histoire de Savoie. This charter has not been found in the compilation of Cluny charters edited by Bernard and Bruel so presumably has since disappeared. It is not now therefore possible to state whether the charter explicitly confirms Ita Raymonde’s affiliation, although on this point there appears no reason to doubt that La Mure had the document available when he was writing as his description of its contents is precise. Two difficulties remain. The first difficulty is the date of the supposed Cluny charter, as at that time Guigues would still have been a child (his estimated birth date appears robust). The second difficulty is that Ita must have been considerably older than her second husband, assuming that she was the same daughter who had previously married Renaud [II] Comte de Nevers, as she had a daughter by her first marriage when Guigues Raymond must still have been an infant. One possibility is that Artaud [II] Comte de Forez et de Lyon had two daughters, despite the Origine et Historia asserting that Comte Renaud’s wife was "filiam unicam". It should be noted that no source has been identified which confirms that Guigues’s wife had previously been the wife of Comte Renaud. If there was only one daughter, she must have been divorced from her first husband, although no source has been found which confirms that this is correct. It should be noted that La Mure asserts that Renaud [II] Comte de Nevers was Ita’s second husband, married after the death of Guigues, but this appears difficult to reconcile with the chronology of the different families with which she was connected.
     "m secondly [as her second husband,] AGNES de Baugency, [widow of ROBERT de Villeneuil,] daughter of LANCELIN [II] Seigneur de Baugency & his wife ---. The Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum records that "Guillelmus…[filios]…Renaldum" married secondly "Idam…filiam Lancelini de Balgentiaco"[91]. Her parentage is confirmed by a charter dated 1134 under which "Guillelmus comes Nivernensis, qui fuit natus de filia Lancelini de Baugenciaco" renounced practices which prejudiced the abbey of Saint-Michel[92]. Her first marriage is indicated by the charter dated Feb 1069 under which "Rotbertus de Villenolio gener Lancelini" donated property, naming "uxorem suam Agnes…et fratrem suum Willelmum", subscribed by "Lancelinus de Balgentiaco, Rodulfus filius eius"[93].
     "Comte Renaud [I] & his first wife had one child:
a) ELISABETH de Nevers (before 1085-after [1120/39]). m [as his second wife,] MILON Seigneur de Courtenay

     "Comte Renaud [II] & his second wife had [three] children:
b) GUILLAUME [III] de Nevers (-20 Aug 1148).
c) ROBERT de Nevers (-after 1134).
d) [--- . m ---.] One child:
     i) HUGUES (-after 1144)."

Med Lands cites:
[85] Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum, RHGF, Tome XII, p. 316.
[86] Cluny, Tome IV, 3388, p. 487.
[87] Bouchard (1987), p. 345.
[88] Histoire d’Auxerre (1850), Tome IV, p. 16.
[89] Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum, RHGF, Tome XII, p. 316.
[90] La Mure, Tome I, p. 146.
[91] Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum, RHGF, Tome XII, p. 316.
[92] Yonne, Tome I, CLXXIV, p. 296.
[93] Marmoutier (Dunois), XV, p. 16.2

Renaud II de Nevers Count of Nevers & Auxerre was a witness to the Per Racines et Histoire (Beaugency): “Agnès de Beaugency ° ~1069 (citée donation de Robert de Villeneuil 02/1069)
     ép. 1) avant 02/1069 Robert de Villeneuil (ou Milon de Montmorency ?)
     ép. 2) ~1070/75 ou peu après et dès 1088 Renaud II, comte de Nevers, Tonnerre et Auxerre (1083) ° ~1055/60 + 05/08/1087 (ou 1089, 1097 ?) (fils de Guillaume 1er, comte de Nevers, et d’Ermengarde, comtesse de Tonnerre ; veuf d’Ide-Raymonde de Forez)
     postérité Nevers, Tonnerre & Auxerre” with Agnès de Beaugency and Robert III de Villeneuil vicomte de Blois.1
Renaud II de Nevers Count of Nevers & Auxerre was a witness to the Per Med Lands:
     "AGNES de Baugency . The Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum records that "Guillelmus…[filios]…Renaldum" married secondly "Idam…filiam Lancelini de Balgentiaco"[741]. Her parentage is confirmed by a charter dated 1134 under which "Guillelmus comes Nivernensis, qui fuit natus de filia Lancelini de Baugenciaco" renounced practices which prejudiced the abbey of Saint-Michel[742]. "Rotbertus de Villenolio gener Lancelini" donated property by charter dated Feb 1069 which names "uxorem suam Agnes…et fratrem suum Willelmum", subscribed by "Lancelinus de Balgentiaco, Rodulfus filius eius"[743].
     "m firstly (before Feb 1069) ROBERT de Villeneuil, son of ---.
     "m secondly (1075 or after) as his second wife, RENAUD [II] Comte de Nevers, son of GUILLAUME I Comte de Nevers & his wife Ermengarde Ctss de Tonnerre (-5 Aug 1089)."
Med Lands cites:
[742] Yonne, Tome I, CLXXIV, p. 296.
[743] Marmoutier-Dunois XV, p. 16.
with Agnès de Beaugency and Robert III de Villeneuil vicomte de Blois.19

Renaud II de Nevers Count of Nevers & Auxerre and Ita Raymonde de Forez comtesse de Forez
Per Med Lands:
     "[ITA Raymonde] . The Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum records that "Guillelmus…[filios]…Renaldum" married firstly "filiam unicam [Artaldi] comitis Foratensis"[95]. La Mure’s Histoire des Comtes de Forez states that "Guy-Raymond de Viennois" married "Ide-Raymonde de Forez, fille d’Artaud V…comte de Lyon et de Forez et d’Ide son épouse" and refers to the couple’s donation of "quelques terres situées au pays de Forez" to Cluny dated 1085, adding that the property in question was Ita’s dowry[96]. La Mure does not quote the charter nor does he provide a precise source reference, apart from referring to Guichenon’s Histoire de Savoie. This charter has not been found in the compilation of Cluny charters edited by Bernard and Bruel so presumably it has since disappeared. It is not now therefore possible to state whether the charter explicitly confirms Ita Raymonde’s affiliation, although on this point there appears no reason to doubt that La Mure had the document available when he was writing as his description of its contents is precise. Two difficulties remain. The first is the date of the supposed Cluny charter, as at that time Guigues would still have been a child (his estimated birth date appears robust). The second difficulty is that Ita must have been considerably older than her second husband, assuming that she was the same daughter who had previously married Renaud [II] Comte de Nevers, as she had a daughter by her first marriage when Guigues Raymond must still have been an infant. These problems would be solved if Artaud [II] Comte de Forez et de Lyon in fact had two daughters, despite the Origine et Historia asserting that Comte Renaud’s wife was "filiam unicam". It should be noted that no source has been identified which confirms that Guigues’s wife had previously been the wife of Comte Renaud. If there was really only one daughter, she must have been divorced from her first husband, although no source has been found which confirms that this is correct. It should be noted that La Mure asserts that Renaud [II] Comte de Nevers was Ita’s second husband, married after the death of Guigues, but this appears difficult to reconcile with the chronology of the different families with which she was connected.
     "[m firstly ([divorced]) as his first wife, RENAUD [II] Comte de Nevers, son of GUILLAUME [I] Comte de Nevers & his wife Ermengarde Ctss de Tonnerre (-5 Aug 1089).]
     "[m secondly (before 1085) GUIGUES RAYMOND d'Albon, son of GUIGUES [II] "Vetus" Comte d'Albon & his second wife Ines de Barcelona ([1074/75]-5 Dec after 1096).]"
Med Lands cites:
[95] Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum, RHGF, Tome XII, p. 316.
[96] La Mure (1675/1860), Tome I, p. 146.10

Family 1

Ita Raymonde de Forez comtesse de Forez b. 1055
Child

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Beaugency ancien Boisgency, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdnevers.htm#RenaudIINeversM1IdaM2Agnes. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Renaud II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029104&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2164] Roglo Genealogical database, online http://roglo.eu/roglo, Renaud de Nevers: http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en;p=renaud;n=de+nevers;oc=2. Hereinafter cited as Roglo Database.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120900&tree=LEO
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’Auxerre, Nevers & Tonnerre, p. 8: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Auxerre-Nevers-Tonnerre.pdf
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdnevers.htm#GuillaumeINeversdied1100
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermengarde: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120901&tree=LEO
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ita-Raimonde de Lyon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076151&tree=LEO
  10. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgkforez.htm#ItaRaymondeForezM1NeversM2Albon
  11. [S2164] Roglo Database, online http://roglo.eu/roglo, Ide Raymonde de Forez: http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en;p=ide+raymonde;n=de+forez;.
  12. [S616] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 26 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 18, Ed. 1, Family #18-0770 (n.p.: Release date: March 27, 1998, unknown publish date).
  13. [S619] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 27 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 6, Ed. 1, Family #6-1556 (n.p.: Release date: August 22, 1996, unknown publish date).
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnès de Beaugency: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029103&tree=LEO
  15. [S2164] Roglo Database, online http://roglo.eu/roglo, Agnès de Beaugency: http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en;p=agnes;n=de+beaugency;oc=1.
  16. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Line 107-23, p. 109. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  17. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renauld_II,_Count_of_Nevers. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  18. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Renaud II de Nevers: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaud_II_de_Nevers. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  19. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CENTRAL%20FRANCE.htm#AgnesBaugencyMRenaudIINevers
  20. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029105&tree=LEO

Philip Lightfoot1

M, #5006
FatherCapt. John Lightfoot II1 b. 1622/23, d. 1682
MotherElizabeth Tailor1 d. b 1687
Last Edited3 Sep 2020

Citations

  1. [S4794] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in colonial and Medieval Families (5 Volumes) (n.p.: n.pub., 2013), Aske, 20.ii., p. 171. Hereinafter cited as Richardson [2013] Royal Ancestry.

Guillaume I (?) Comte de Nevers & Auxerre1,2,3

M, #5007, b. circa 1030, d. between 10 June 1098 and 20 June 1100
FatherRenaud I (?) Count of Nevers & Auxerre2,4,5,3 b. c 990, d. 24 May 1040
MotherAdvisa (?) de France, Comtesse d'Auxerre4,6,5,2,3 b. c 1003, d. a 5 Jun 1063
ReferenceGAV25
Last Edited8 Sep 2020
     Guillaume I (?) Comte de Nevers & Auxerre was born circa 1030.7 He married Ermengarde (?) Comtesse de Tonnerre, daughter of Renaud/Rainard I (?) Comte de Tonnerre and Helvis (?), in 1039;
His 1st wife. Med Lands and Genealogics say m. 1039; Weis says m. 1045.7,8,9,2,3,10 Guillaume I (?) Comte de Nevers & Auxerre married Matilda (?) before 1085;
His 2nd wife.11,3,10
Guillaume I (?) Comte de Nevers & Auxerre died between 10 June 1098 and 20 June 1100; Genealogics says d. 20 Jun 1100; Med Lands says d. 10 Jun 1098.2,3
Guillaume I (?) Comte de Nevers & Auxerre was buried after 20 June 1100 at St. Etienne de Nevers, Nevers, Departement de la Nièvre, Bourgogne, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1030, Departement de la Nièvre, Bourgogne, France
     DEATH     20 Jun 1100 (aged 69–70), Nevers, Departement de la Nièvre, Bourgogne, France
     William I, Count of Nevers, was the son of Renauld I, Count of Nevers and Advisa of France, daughter of Robert II of France and Constance of Arles. He married Ermengarde, daughter of Renauld, Count of Tonnerre in 1045. William died at Nevers, after 1083. William I and Ermengarde had six children:
1. Ermengarde (b. 1050), married Hubert I, Count of Beaumont;
2. Robert (1052 - 12 February 1095), later Bishop of Auxerre;
3. William II (1052 - 1090), inherited grandfather's title as Count of Tonnerre;
4. Heloise (b. 1056), married William, Count of Evreux;
5. Sibille (1058 - 1078), married Hugh I, Duke of Burgundy; and
6. Renauld II (1059 - 1097), inherited father's title as Count of Nevers.

     William was the third great grandfather of Renauld de Courtenay
     Family Members
     Parents
          Renauld Nevers unknown–1040
          Advisa Capet 1003–1063
     Spouse
          Ermengarde Tonnerre Nevers 1030 – unknown
     Children
          Renaud Nevers 1047–1089
     BURIAL     St. Etienne de Nevers, Nevers, Departement de la Nièvre, Bourgogne, France
     PLOT     de Nevers vaults
     Created by: Mad
     Added: 7 Sep 2010
     Find a Grave Memorial 58317716.12
     GAV-25.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:716.2

Guillaume I (?) Comte de Nevers & Auxerre
This is the same person as:
”William I, Count of Nevers” at Wikipedia and as
”Guillaume Ier de Nevers” at Wikipédia (FR).13,14

Guillaume I (?) Comte de Nevers & Auxerre and Ermengarde (?) Comtesse de Tonnerre
Per Med Lands:
     "GUILLAUME [I] de Nevers, son of RENAUD I Comte de Nevers & his wife Hedwige de France (-20 Jun 1098, bur Nevers, Saint-Etienne). "Rainaldus comes Nivernensis" donated property "Belmontis" to Cluny, for the souls of "…uxoris mee Advise et filiorum meorum qui presentes sunt…" by charter dated to [1028/40], subscribed by "filii eorum Willelmi"[77]. He succeeded his father in 1040 as Comte de Nevers, Comte d'Auxerre. Comte de Tonnerre, de iure uxoris. "Willelmus Nivernensis comes" made a donation to Cluny dated 13 Dec 1097[78]. The Annales Nivernenses record the death in 1098 of "Willelmus comes Nivernesium"[79]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "XII Kal Jul" of "Guillelmus comes Nivernensis"[80].
     "m firstly ([1039]) ERMENGARDE Ctss de Tonnerre, daughter of RENAUD [I] Comte de Tonnerre & his wife Helvis --- ([1023/26]-before 1090). “Milo comes Tornodorensis castri” donated property to the monastery of Saint-Michel, for the soul of “filii mei Othonis” buried in the monastery and “uxore mea Herviz…filio nostro Arduyno ac filia Ermengarda”, by charter dated Jul 1036[81]. Her birth date is estimated from her marriage in [1039], combined with the fact that she was still not of marriageable age in 1036. “Raynardus comes” donated property to the monastery of Saint-Michel (on his deathbed), with the consent of “uxoris mee Herviz et filii mei Harduini sive filie mee Ermengarde”, by charter dated 16 Jul 1039 which also names “mater mea Ermengardis”[82]. Her marriage is referred to in the Gesta pontificum Autissiodorensium[83]. She succeeded as Ctss de Tonnerre in 1065 when her cousin Comte Hugues-Rainard became bishop of Langres[84].
     "m secondly (before 1085) MATHILDE, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified."
Med Lands cites:
[77] Cluny, Tome IV, 2811, p. 13.
[78] Cluny, Tome V, 3724, p. 67.
[79] Annales Nivernenses 1098, MGH SS XIII, p. 91.
[80] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Saint-Denis, p. 320.
[81] Yonne, Tome I, XXCI, p. 156.
[82] Yonne, Tome I, XCII, p. 177.
[83] Bouchard (1987), p. 371, citing Duru (1850), I, Gesta pontificum Autissiodorensium, pp. 309-509, 398-402.
[84] Bouchard (1987), p. 371.3


Guillaume I (?) Comte de Nevers & Auxerre and Ermengarde (?) Comtesse de Tonnerre
Per Weis: “William I, Count of Nevers, b. ca. 1030, d. 20 Jun 1100; m. 1045, Ermengarde, dau. & h. of Renaud, Count of Tonnerre.”.7

Guillaume I (?) Comte de Nevers & Auxerre and Ermengarde (?) Comtesse de Tonnerre
Per Racines et Histoire (Nevers): “Guillaume 1er de Nevers (& II d’Auxerre) + 20/06/1098 ? comte de Nevers et d’Auxerre (1040) puis de Tonnerre (par droit de sa femme) (donation à Cluny 13/12/1097)
     ép. 1) 1039 Ermengarde, comtesse de Tonnerre (1065, quand son cousin Hugues-Rainard devient Evêque de Langres) ° 1023/26 + avant 1090 (1083 ?) (fille de Renaud/Rainard 1er de Tonnerre, et d’Helvis(e) de Chartres-Breteuil ?) (> cf. p.18)
     ép. 2) avant 1085 Mathilde”.10

Guillaume I (?) Comte de Nevers & Auxerre and Ermengarde (?) Comtesse de Tonnerre
Per Med Lands:
     "ERMENGARDE de Tonnerre ([1023/26]-before 1090). “Rainaldus comes” donated property to the monastery of Saint-Michel, for the soul of “filii mei Othonis” buried in the monastery and “uxore mea Herviz…filio nostro Arduyno ac filia Ermengarda”, by charter dated Jul 1036[71]. Her birth date is estimated from her marriage in [1039], combined with the fact that she was still not of marriageable age in 1036. “Raynardus comes” donated property to the monastery of Saint-Michel (on his deathbed), with the consent of “uxoris mee Herviz et filii mei Harduini sive filie mee Ermengarde”, by charter dated 16 Jul 1039 which also names “mater mea Ermengardis”[72]. Her marriage is referred to in the Gesta pontificum Autissiodorensium[73]. She succeeded as Ctss de Tonnerre in 1065 when her cousin Comte Hugues-Rainard became bishop of Langres[74].
     "m ([1039]) as his first wife, GUILLAUME [I] Comte de Nevers et d'Auxerre, son of RENAUD [I] Comte de Nevers & his wife Hedwig [Avoie] de France [Capet] (-20 Jun 1098, bur Nevers Saint-Etienne)."
Med Lands cites:
[72] Yonne, Tome I, XCII, p. 177.
[73] Bouchard (1987), p. 371, citing Duru (1850), I, Gesta pontificum Autissiodorensium, pp. 309-509, 398-402.
[74] Bouchard (1987), p. 371.8
Guillaume I (?) Comte de Nevers & Auxerre was Comte de Nevers, Comte d'Auxerre in 1040. He was comte de Tonnerre (jure uxoris) between 1045 and 1100.14

Family 1

Ermengarde (?) Comtesse de Tonnerre b. bt 1023 - 1026, d. b 1090
Children

Family 2

Matilda (?)

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Beaumont 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/beaumont/beaumont4.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120900&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdnevers.htm#GuillaumeINeversdied1100. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S1936] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 25 Aug 2005: "Robert II of France to Maud de Bernake (was CP Addition:..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 25 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 25 Aug 2005."
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdnevers.htm#RenaudINeversdied1040B
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alys|Hawise de France: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120904&tree=LEO
  7. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 107-21, p. 100. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  8. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdtonne.htm#Ermengardisdiedbefore1090MGuillaumeINeve
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermengarde: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120901&tree=LEO
  10. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’Auxerre, Nevers & Tonnerre, p. 7: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Auxerre-Nevers-Tonnerre.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Matilda: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00559544&tree=LEO
  12. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 22 July 2020), memorial page for William of Nevers, I (1030–20 Jun 1100), Find a Grave Memorial no. 58317716, citing St. Etienne de Nevers, Nevers, Departement de la Nièvre, Bourgogne, France; Maintained by Mad (contributor 47329061), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/58317716. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  13. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_I,_Count_of_Nevers. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  14. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Guillaume Ier de Nevers: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillaume_Ier_de_Nevers. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  15. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’Auxerre, Nevers & Tonnerre, p. 8: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Auxerre-Nevers-Tonnerre.pdf
  16. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdnevers.htm#HelviseMGuillaumeEvreuxNormandie
  17. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdnevers.htm#RenaudIINeversM1IdaM2Agnes
  18. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Renaud II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029104&tree=LEO
  19. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Beaugency ancien Boisgency, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf
  20. [S2164] Roglo Genealogical database, online http://roglo.eu/roglo, Renaud de Nevers: http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en;p=renaud;n=de+nevers;oc=2. Hereinafter cited as Roglo Database.
  21. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 9 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet9.html

Ermengarde (?) Comtesse de Tonnerre1

F, #5008, b. between 1023 and 1026, d. before 1090
FatherRenaud/Rainard I (?) Comte de Tonnerre2,3,4 b. bt 980 - 990, d. a 16 Jul 1039
MotherHelvis (?)4
ReferenceGAV26 EDV26
Last Edited8 Sep 2020
     Ermengarde (?) Comtesse de Tonnerre was born between 1023 and 1026.4 She married Guillaume I (?) Comte de Nevers & Auxerre, son of Renaud I (?) Count of Nevers & Auxerre and Advisa (?) de France, Comtesse d'Auxerre, in 1039;
His 1st wife. Med Lands and Genealogics say m. 1039; Weis says m. 1045.5,4,3,6,7,8
Ermengarde (?) Comtesse de Tonnerre was buried before 1090 at St. Etienne de Nevers, Nevers, Departement de la Nièvre, Bourgogne, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1030, Bourgogne, France
     DEATH     unknown, Bourgogne, France
     Comtesse Nevers and Auxerre Daughter of Renaud (990-1039) and Hawise de Noyon.
     Family Members
     Spouse
          William of Nevers 1030–1100
     Children
          Renaud Nevers 1047–1089
     Children
          Renaud Nevers 1047–1089
     BURIAL     St. Etienne de Nevers, Nevers, Departement de la Nièvre, Bourgogne, France
     PLOT     de Nevers vaults
     Created by: Mad
     Added: 7 Sep 2010
     Find a Grave Memorial 58317716.9
Ermengarde (?) Comtesse de Tonnerre died before 1090.10,1,4
     Ermengarde (?) Comtesse de Tonnerre and Guillaume I (?) Comte de Nevers & Auxerre
Per Weis: “William I, Count of Nevers, b. ca. 1030, d. 20 Jun 1100; m. 1045, Ermengarde, dau. & h. of Renaud, Count of Tonnerre.”.5

Ermengarde (?) Comtesse de Tonnerre and Guillaume I (?) Comte de Nevers & Auxerre
Per Med Lands:
     "GUILLAUME [I] de Nevers, son of RENAUD I Comte de Nevers & his wife Hedwige de France (-20 Jun 1098, bur Nevers, Saint-Etienne). "Rainaldus comes Nivernensis" donated property "Belmontis" to Cluny, for the souls of "…uxoris mee Advise et filiorum meorum qui presentes sunt…" by charter dated to [1028/40], subscribed by "filii eorum Willelmi"[77]. He succeeded his father in 1040 as Comte de Nevers, Comte d'Auxerre. Comte de Tonnerre, de iure uxoris. "Willelmus Nivernensis comes" made a donation to Cluny dated 13 Dec 1097[78]. The Annales Nivernenses record the death in 1098 of "Willelmus comes Nivernesium"[79]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "XII Kal Jul" of "Guillelmus comes Nivernensis"[80].
     "m firstly ([1039]) ERMENGARDE Ctss de Tonnerre, daughter of RENAUD [I] Comte de Tonnerre & his wife Helvis --- ([1023/26]-before 1090). “Milo comes Tornodorensis castri” donated property to the monastery of Saint-Michel, for the soul of “filii mei Othonis” buried in the monastery and “uxore mea Herviz…filio nostro Arduyno ac filia Ermengarda”, by charter dated Jul 1036[81]. Her birth date is estimated from her marriage in [1039], combined with the fact that she was still not of marriageable age in 1036. “Raynardus comes” donated property to the monastery of Saint-Michel (on his deathbed), with the consent of “uxoris mee Herviz et filii mei Harduini sive filie mee Ermengarde”, by charter dated 16 Jul 1039 which also names “mater mea Ermengardis”[82]. Her marriage is referred to in the Gesta pontificum Autissiodorensium[83]. She succeeded as Ctss de Tonnerre in 1065 when her cousin Comte Hugues-Rainard became bishop of Langres[84].
     "m secondly (before 1085) MATHILDE, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not been identified."
Med Lands cites:
[77] Cluny, Tome IV, 2811, p. 13.
[78] Cluny, Tome V, 3724, p. 67.
[79] Annales Nivernenses 1098, MGH SS XIII, p. 91.
[80] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Saint-Denis, p. 320.
[81] Yonne, Tome I, XXCI, p. 156.
[82] Yonne, Tome I, XCII, p. 177.
[83] Bouchard (1987), p. 371, citing Duru (1850), I, Gesta pontificum Autissiodorensium, pp. 309-509, 398-402.
[84] Bouchard (1987), p. 371.7


Ermengarde (?) Comtesse de Tonnerre and Guillaume I (?) Comte de Nevers & Auxerre
Per Racines et Histoire (Nevers): “Guillaume 1er de Nevers (& II d’Auxerre) + 20/06/1098 ? comte de Nevers et d’Auxerre (1040) puis de Tonnerre (par droit de sa femme) (donation à Cluny 13/12/1097)
     ép. 1) 1039 Ermengarde, comtesse de Tonnerre (1065, quand son cousin Hugues-Rainard devient Evêque de Langres) ° 1023/26 + avant 1090 (1083 ?) (fille de Renaud/Rainard 1er de Tonnerre, et d’Helvis(e) de Chartres-Breteuil ?) (> cf. p.18)
     ép. 2) avant 1085 Mathilde”.8

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 716.3

Ermengarde (?) Comtesse de Tonnerre
This is the same person as ”Ermengarde de Tonnerre” at Wikipédia (FR).11 GAV-26 EDV-26.

Ermengarde (?) Comtesse de Tonnerre and Guillaume I (?) Comte de Nevers & Auxerre
Per Med Lands:
     "ERMENGARDE de Tonnerre ([1023/26]-before 1090). “Rainaldus comes” donated property to the monastery of Saint-Michel, for the soul of “filii mei Othonis” buried in the monastery and “uxore mea Herviz…filio nostro Arduyno ac filia Ermengarda”, by charter dated Jul 1036[71]. Her birth date is estimated from her marriage in [1039], combined with the fact that she was still not of marriageable age in 1036. “Raynardus comes” donated property to the monastery of Saint-Michel (on his deathbed), with the consent of “uxoris mee Herviz et filii mei Harduini sive filie mee Ermengarde”, by charter dated 16 Jul 1039 which also names “mater mea Ermengardis”[72]. Her marriage is referred to in the Gesta pontificum Autissiodorensium[73]. She succeeded as Ctss de Tonnerre in 1065 when her cousin Comte Hugues-Rainard became bishop of Langres[74].
     "m ([1039]) as his first wife, GUILLAUME [I] Comte de Nevers et d'Auxerre, son of RENAUD [I] Comte de Nevers & his wife Hedwig [Avoie] de France [Capet] (-20 Jun 1098, bur Nevers Saint-Etienne)."
Med Lands cites:
[72] Yonne, Tome I, XCII, p. 177.
[73] Bouchard (1987), p. 371, citing Duru (1850), I, Gesta pontificum Autissiodorensium, pp. 309-509, 398-402.
[74] Bouchard (1987), p. 371.4

Family

Guillaume I (?) Comte de Nevers & Auxerre b. c 1030, d. bt 10 Jun 1098 - 20 Jun 1100
Children

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermengarde: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120901&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Renaud I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120902&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermengarde: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120901&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdtonne.htm#Ermengardisdiedbefore1090MGuillaumeINeve. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 107-21, p. 100. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120900&tree=LEO
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdnevers.htm#GuillaumeINeversdied1100
  8. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’Auxerre, Nevers & Tonnerre, p. 7: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Auxerre-Nevers-Tonnerre.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  9. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 22 July 2020), memorial page for Ermengarde Tonnerre Nevers (1030–unknown), Find a Grave Memorial no. 111188632, citing St. Etienne de Nevers, Nevers, Departement de la Nièvre, Bourgogne, France; Maintained by Carolyn Gray-Yeaw (contributor 47062093), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/111188632. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  10. [S616] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 26 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 18, Ed. 1, Family #18-0770 (n.p.: Release date: March 27, 1998, unknown publish date).
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  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I de Nevers: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120898&tree=LEO
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  18. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 9 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet9.html

Renaud I (?) Count of Nevers & Auxerre

M, #5009, b. circa 990, d. 24 May 1040
FatherLanderic (?) de Maers, Comte de Nevers1,2 b. c 956, d. 11 May 1028
MotherMathilda de Mâcon3,2 b. c 975, d. 13 Nov 1005
ReferenceGAV27 EDV27
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     Renaud I (?) Count of Nevers & Auxerre was born circa 990 at Nevers, Nierre, France.4 He married Advisa (?) de France, Comtesse d'Auxerre, daughter of Robert II "The Pious/le Pieux" (?) King of France and Constance (?) d'Arles, Queen of France, after 25 January 1016; Ravilious cites: Detlev Schewennicke, "Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge," [ " European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series " ], Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1978-1995 [3rd series], First series by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven.
W. Scott Jessee, "Robert the Burgundian and the Counts of Anjou, ca. 1025-1098," Washington, D.C.: Catholic University of America Press, 2000.5,6,7,8,9,2
Renaud I (?) Count of Nevers & Auxerre died on 24 May 1040 at Battle of Seignelay, Sainte-Vertu (near Seignelay), Departement de l'Yonne, Bourgogne, France (now); Ravilious cites: Detlev Schewennicke, "Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge," [ " European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series " ], Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1978-1995 [3rd series], First series by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven.
W. Scott Jessee, "Robert the Burgundian and the Counts of Anjou, ca. 1025-1098," Washington, D.C.: Catholic University of America Press, 2000.5,7,4,10,2
Renaud I (?) Count of Nevers & Auxerre was buried after 29 May 1040 at Abbey of St. Germain in Auxerre, Auxerre, Departement de l'Yonne, Bourgogne, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     unknown
     DEATH     29 May 1040, Sainte-Vertu, Departement de l'Yonne, Bourgogne, France
     Renauld I (972-May 29, 1040) was count of Nevers. He married Advisa Capet on January 25, 1016, she was the daughter of Robert II, King of France and Constance of Arles. Renauld and Advisa's children were:
** William I of Nevers (c.1030-1100)
** Henry of Nevers (-1067)
** Guy of Nevers (-1067)
** Robert of Nevers Baron of Craon (c.1035-1098)
** Adelaide of Nevers

     Family Members
     Spouse
          Advisa Capet 1003–1063
     Children
          William of Nevers 1030–1100
     BURIAL     Abbey of St. Germain in Auxerre, Auxerre, Departement de l'Yonne, Bourgogne, France
     Created by: Mad
     Added: 19 Aug 2010
     Find A Grave Memorial 57344577.11
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:716."4 GAV-27 EDV-27.

Renaud I (?) Count of Nevers & Auxerre
Per Med Lands:
     "RENAUD [I] de Nevers, son of LANDRY Comte de Nevers & his wife Mathilde de Bourgogne-Comté (-killed in battle Seignelay 29 May 1040, bur Auxerre, Saint-Germain). "Landricus…comes" donated property to Cluny by charter dated to [1010] subscribed by "…Rainaldi eius filii…"[53]. Comte d’Auxerre [1016], de iure uxoris. "Landrici comitis, Rainaldi filii eius et uxoris eius, Widoni et uxoris eius Acherada…Rodberti filii Gibaldi" subscribed the charter dated Jun 1023 under which "Gibaldus" donated property to Cluny[54]. He succeeded his father in 1028 as Comte de Nevers. "Rainaldus comes Nivernensis" donated property "Belmontis" to Cluny, for the souls of "Landrici patris mei…[et] Matildis matris mee et uxoris mee Advise et filiorum meorum qui presentes sunt…fratris mei Widonis et Rotberti et Walterii, Gilberti, Abonis, Hiterii, Hugonis, Richardi, Girosi" by charter dated to [1028/40], subscribed by "filii eorum Willelmi"[55]. The Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum records that "[comes] Nivernis" was killed by the duke of Burgundy "apud Saigniacum"[56]. Rodolfus Glaber records that he was "daringly assassinated…by a knight of lowly birth"[57]. The Annales Nivernenses record the death in 1040 of "Ragenaldus comes, Landrici comitis proles"[58]. The necrology of Mâcon Cathedral records that "Raynaldus Nivernensis comes" was killed "IV Kal Jun"[59]. The necrology of Auxerre cathedral records that "comes Rainaldus" was killed 29 May[60].
     "m (soon after 25 Jan 1016) HEDWIGE [Avoie] de France, daughter of ROBERT II "le Pieux" King of France & his third wife Constance d'Arles [Provence] ([1003]-5 Jun after 1063). Rodolfus Glaber records that "Rainaldus…Landrici comitis filius" married a daughter of King Robert[61]. The Chronici Hugonis Floriacensis names "Adelaidem…Rainaldi comitis Nivernensis uxorem" as the daughter of King Robert and his wife Constance[62]. The Historia Nivernensium Comitum records that the wife of "Renaldum" was "sorori Regis Roberti, filii Hugonis Capitonis"[63]. The Annales Vizeliacenses also specifies that Renaud's wife was the sister not daughter of King Robert II[64]. However, this is chronologically unlikely given that King Robert and his known sisters were born in the 970s, more than twenty years before the earliest possible date of birth of Comte Renaud. Her marriage was agreed by her father as part of his alliance with Landry Comte de Nevers after capturing Auxerre, which the king gave to his daughter as dowry[65]. "Rainaldus comes Nivernensis" donated property "Belmontis" to Cluny, for the souls of "…uxoris mee Advise…" by charter dated to [1028/40][66]. She founded the abbeys of Crisenon and Issenon."
Med lands cites:
[53] Cluny, Tome III, 2678, p. 707.
[54] Cluny, Tome III, 2781, p. 805.
[55] Cluny, Tome IV, 2811, p. 13.
[56] Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum, RHGF, Tome XI, p. 281.
[57] Rodulfi Glabri, Historiarum IV.26, p. 213.
[58] Annales Nivernenses 1040, MGH SS XIII, p. 90.
[59] Obituaires de Lyon II, Eglise cathédrale de Mâcon, p. 362.
[60] Histoire d’Auxerre (1850), Tome IV, p. 15.
[61] Rodulfi Glabri, Historiarum IV.26, p. 213.
[62] Chronici Hugonis Floriacensis, RHGF, Tome X, p.222.
[63] Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum, RHGF, Tome X, p.258.
[64] Bouchard (1987), pp. 343-4, the author highlighting the "unreliable genealogies" of Raoul Glaber and preferring the Annales Vizeliacenses as a reliable source.
[65] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 58.
[66] Cluny, Tome IV, 2811, p. 13.2


Renaud I (?) Count of Nevers & Auxerre
Per Wikipedia:
     "Renauld I (died 29 May 1040[1]) was a French nobleman. He was the ruling count of Nevers from 1028 until his death at the battle of Seignelay against Robert I, Duke of Burgundy.[1]
Family
Marriage
     "He married Hedwig (or Advisa) of France on 25 January 1016, daughter of Robert II, King of France and Constance of Arles.[2]
Children
** William I of Nevers (c. 1030–1083/1097)[3]
** Henry of Nevers (died 1067)[3]
** Guy of Nevers (died 1067)[3]
** Robert of Nevers Baron of Craon (c. 1035–1098)[3]
** Adelaide of Nevers

References
1. Constance Brittain Bourchard, Sword, Miter, and Cloister: Nobility and the Church in Burgundy, 980-1188, (Cornell University Press, 1987), 344.
2. Constance Brittain Bourchard, Sword, Miter, and Cloister: Nobility and the Church in Burgundy, 980-1188, 343.
3. Constance Brittain Bourchard, Sword, Miter, and Cloister: Nobility and the Church in Burgundy, 980-1188, 342.
External links
** Genealogical database by Herbert Stoyan[permanent dead link]
** Medieval Lands Project: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#RenaudINeversdied1040B.10 "

Renaud I (?) Count of Nevers & Auxerre
Per Genealogics: "Renaud was the son of Landèric, comte de Nevers, and Mathilde de Bourgogne. He reached his majority in 1005. Shortly after 25 January 1016 he married Alys/Hawise de France, the eldest daughter of Robert II 'le Pieux', king of France, and Constance de Provence. Of their five children, their sons Guillaume I and Robert would have progeny. As Alys was given the county of Auxerre by her father, Renaud became count of Auxerre through her, and in 1028 he became count of Nevers with the death of his father. Renaud was killed on 24 May 1040 at Sainte-Vertu in a battle against Robert I, duc de Bourgogne."4

Renaud I (?) Count of Nevers & Auxerre and Advisa (?) de France, Comtesse d'Auxerre
Per Racines et Histoire: "Renaud 1er de Nevers ° ~1000/05 +X 29/05/1040 (Seignelay, Sainte-Vertu, 89, assassiné par un chevalier de basse naissance, en bataille
contre le duc de Bourgogne) comte de Nevers (1028-1040) et d’Auxerre (1006)
     ép. peu après 25/01/1016 (1020/23) Hedwige (Avoie, Advisa) de France, comtesse d’Auxerre ° 1003/04 + un 05/06 après 1063 (1079 ?) (fille du Roi Robert II «Le Pieux», et de Constance de Provence) (fonde les Abbayes de Crisenon et d’Issenon.)12"

Renaud I (?) Count of Nevers & Auxerre and Advisa (?) de France, Comtesse d'Auxerre
Per Med Lands:
     "HEDWIGE [Avoie] de France ([1003]-5 Jun after 1063). Rodolfus Glaber records that "Rainaldus…Landrici comitis filius" married a daughter of King Robert[225]. The Chronici Hugonis Floriacensis names "Adelaidem…Rainaldi comitis Nivernensis uxorem" as the daughter of King Robert and his wife Constance[226]. The Historia Nivernensium Comitum records that the wife of "Renaldum" was "sorori Regis Roberti, filii Hugonis Capitonis"[227]. The Annales Vizeliacenses also specifies that Renaud's wife was the sister not daughter of King Robert II[228]. However, this is chronologically unlikely given that King Robert and his known sisters were born in the 970s, more than twenty years before the earliest possible date of birth of Comte Renaud. Her marriage was agreed by her father as part of his alliance with Landry Comte de Nevers after capturing Auxerre, which the king gave to his daughter as dowry[229]. "Rainaldus comes Nivernensis" donated property "Belmontis" to Cluny, for the souls of "…uxoris mee Advise…" by charter dated to [1028/40][230]. She founded the abbeys of Crisenon and Issenon.
     "m (1006, soon after 25 Jan 1016) RENAUD [I] de Nevers, son of LANDRY Comte de Nevers & his wife Mathilde de Bourgogne-Comté (-killed in battle Sainte-Vertu, Yonne 29 May 1040, bur Auxerre, Saint-Germain). He succeeded his father in 1028 as Comte de Nevers. He was killed in battle against Robert I Duke of Burgundy, his brother-in-law."
Med lands cites:
[225] Rodulfi Glabri, Historiarum IV.26, p. 213.
[226] Chronici Hugonis Floriacensis, RHGF X, p. 222.
[227] Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum, RHGF X, p. 258.
[228] Bouchard (1987), pp. 343-4, the author highlighting the "unreliable genealogies" of Raoul Glaber and preferring the Annales Vizeliacenses as a reliable source.
[229] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 58.
[230] Cluny Tome IV, 2811, p. 13.9

Citations

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    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 107-20, p. 100. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
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Advisa (?) de France, Comtesse d'Auxerre1

F, #5010, b. circa 1003, d. after 5 June 1063
FatherRobert II "The Pious/le Pieux" (?) King of France2,3,1 b. 27 Mar 972, d. 20 Jul 1031
MotherConstance (?) d'Arles, Queen of France2,4,5 b. c 986, d. 25 Jul 1032
ReferenceGAV26
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     Advisa (?) de France, Comtesse d'Auxerre was born circa 1003 at Nevers, Nierre, France.6,2,7 She married Renaud I (?) Count of Nevers & Auxerre, son of Landeric (?) de Maers, Comte de Nevers and Mathilda de Mâcon, after 25 January 1016; Ravilious cites: Detlev Schewennicke, "Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge," [ " European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series " ], Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1978-1995 [3rd series], First series by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven.
W. Scott Jessee, "Robert the Burgundian and the Counts of Anjou, ca. 1025-1098," Washington, D.C.: Catholic University of America Press, 2000.8,9,2,7,10,11
Advisa (?) de France, Comtesse d'Auxerre died after 5 June 1063 at Nevers, Nierre, France; Genealogy.EU (Capet 4 page) say d. after 1063.2,8,7
Advisa (?) de France, Comtesse d'Auxerre was buried after 5 June 1063 at Abbey of St. Germain in Auxerre, Auxerre, Departement de l'Yonne, Bourgogne, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1003, Boulogne, Departement de la Vendée, Pays de la Loire, France
     DEATH     5 Jun 1063 (aged 59–60), Boulogne, Departement de la Vendée, Pays de la Loire, France
     Advisa Capet, Countess of Auxerre, was the daughter of Robert "the Pious," King of France and his third wife Constance d'Arles.
She married Renaud I, comté de Nevers. They were the parents of William, Robert, Adelaide, Guy and Henry.
     Descendants of hers:
** Renauld de Courtenay
** Elizabeth Montfort
** William Montagu

     Family Members
     Parents
          Robert II 972–1031
          Constance d'Arles unknown–1032
     Spouse
          Renauld Nevers unknown–1040
     Siblings
          Hugues de France 1007–1025
          Henri I 1008–1060
          Adela Capet 1009–1079
          Robert de Bourgogne 1011–1076
          Constance Capet De Dammartin 1014–1052
     Children
          William of Nevers 1030–1100
     BURIAL     Abbey of St. Germain in Auxerre, Auxerre, Departement de l'Yonne, Bourgogne, France
     Created by: Mad
     Added: 19 Aug 2010
     Find A Grave Memorial 57343465.12
     Advisa (?) de France, Comtesse d'Auxerre and Renaud I (?) Count of Nevers & Auxerre
Per Racines et Histoire: "Renaud 1er de Nevers ° ~1000/05 +X 29/05/1040 (Seignelay, Sainte-Vertu, 89, assassiné par un chevalier de basse naissance, en bataille
contre le duc de Bourgogne) comte de Nevers (1028-1040) et d’Auxerre (1006)
     ép. peu après 25/01/1016 (1020/23) Hedwige (Avoie, Advisa) de France, comtesse d’Auxerre ° 1003/04 + un 05/06 après 1063 (1079 ?) (fille du Roi Robert II «Le Pieux», et de Constance de Provence) (fonde les Abbayes de Crisenon et d’Issenon.)13" GAV-26.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:716; 2:11.7

Advisa (?) de France, Comtesse d'Auxerre
Per Wikipedia:
     "Hedwig (or Advisa) of France (c. 1003–1063) was a French princess, the daughter of Robert II of France[1] and Constance of Arles. She married Renauld I, Count of Nevers,[2] on 25 January 1016, and they had the following children:
** William I of Nevers (c. 1030-1083/1097)[2]
** Henry of Nevers (died 1067)[2]
** Guy (died 1067)[2]
** Robert, Baron of Craon (c. 1035-1098)[2]
** Adelaide

Notes
1. Bouchard 1987, p. 343.
2. Bouchard 1987, p. 342.
References
** Bouchard, Constance Brittain (1987). Sword, Miter, and Cloister:Nobility and the Church in Burgundy, 980-1198. Cornell University Press."14

Advisa (?) de France, Comtesse d'Auxerre
Per Ravilious email [2004]
     "Hedwig (Hawise) of France
     "Death: aft 5 Jun 1063[4]
     ""S. Rainaldi, comitis et uxoris ejus Advise" (trans: The mark of Count Raynald and of his wife Advisa). [Peter Stewart, cites _Recueil des chartes de l'abbaye de Cluny_[5]]
     "had the county of Auxerre as her maritagium [Jessee p. 20[3]]
     "cf. ES I Band III, Tafel 716 [called 'Adele' in error][4]
     "Spouse: Renaud I de Nevers, count of Nevers
     "Death: 24 May 1040, slain at Sainte-Vertu[4],[3]
     "Father: Landre de Maers (-1028)
     "Mother: Mathilda of the Franche-Comte (-1005)
     "Marr: aft 25 Jan 1016[4],[3]
     "Children: William I (-1100), count of Nevers
Robert 'the Burgundian' (->1098)
Henri
Guy (->1081.)8
Advisa (?) de France, Comtesse d'Auxerre was also known as Hedwige (Hawise) (?) of France, Comtesse d'Auxerre.8,7,10 Advisa (?) de France, Comtesse d'Auxerre was also known as AdeleAdelaide Countess of Auxerre per Ravilious email: "cf. ES I Band III, Tafel 716 [called 'Adele' in error][4]".
Ravilious cites: Detlev Schewennicke, "Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge," [ " European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series " ], Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1978-1995 [3rd series], First series by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven.2,8

Advisa (?) de France, Comtesse d'Auxerre and Renaud I (?) Count of Nevers & Auxerre
Per Med Lands:
     "HEDWIGE [Avoie] de France ([1003]-5 Jun after 1063). Rodolfus Glaber records that "Rainaldus…Landrici comitis filius" married a daughter of King Robert[225]. The Chronici Hugonis Floriacensis names "Adelaidem…Rainaldi comitis Nivernensis uxorem" as the daughter of King Robert and his wife Constance[226]. The Historia Nivernensium Comitum records that the wife of "Renaldum" was "sorori Regis Roberti, filii Hugonis Capitonis"[227]. The Annales Vizeliacenses also specifies that Renaud's wife was the sister not daughter of King Robert II[228]. However, this is chronologically unlikely given that King Robert and his known sisters were born in the 970s, more than twenty years before the earliest possible date of birth of Comte Renaud. Her marriage was agreed by her father as part of his alliance with Landry Comte de Nevers after capturing Auxerre, which the king gave to his daughter as dowry[229]. "Rainaldus comes Nivernensis" donated property "Belmontis" to Cluny, for the souls of "…uxoris mee Advise…" by charter dated to [1028/40][230]. She founded the abbeys of Crisenon and Issenon.
     "m (1006, soon after 25 Jan 1016) RENAUD [I] de Nevers, son of LANDRY Comte de Nevers & his wife Mathilde de Bourgogne-Comté (-killed in battle Sainte-Vertu, Yonne 29 May 1040, bur Auxerre, Saint-Germain). He succeeded his father in 1028 as Comte de Nevers. He was killed in battle against Robert I Duke of Burgundy, his brother-in-law."
Med lands cites:
[225] Rodulfi Glabri, Historiarum IV.26, p. 213.
[226] Chronici Hugonis Floriacensis, RHGF X, p. 222.
[227] Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum, RHGF X, p. 258.
[228] Bouchard (1987), pp. 343-4, the author highlighting the "unreliable genealogies" of Raoul Glaber and preferring the Annales Vizeliacenses as a reliable source.
[229] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 58.
[230] Cluny Tome IV, 2811, p. 13.10

Citations

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