Roger d'Evreux1

M, #14761
FatherRobert d'Évreux Comte d'Évreux, Archbishop of Rouen b. bt 965 - 974, d. 1037
Last Edited6 Mar 2003
      ; perhaps went to England in 1066.1

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 68, DEVEREUX 1:v. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Hawyse de Lacy1

F, #14762
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited3 Dec 2004
     Hawyse de Lacy married Robert d'Evreux 3rd Comte d'Evreux, son of Robert d'Évreux Comte d'Évreux, Archbishop of Rouen.1

     GAV-27.

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 68, DEVEREUX 3. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 68, DEVEREUX 4.

Walter d'Evreux Count of Rosmar1

M, #14763, b. circa 1034
FatherRobert d'Evreux 3rd Comte d'Evreux1 b. c 1008
MotherHawyse de Lacy1
ReferenceGAV26
Last Edited3 Sep 2005
     Walter d'Evreux Count of Rosmar was born circa 1034.1
     GAV-26.

; "Among the principal Normans who accompanied the Conqueror in his expedition against England, and participated inthe triumph and spoil of Hastings, was Walter de Evereux of Rosmar, in Normandy, who obtained, with other consierable grants, the lordships of Salisbury and Ambresbury, which, having devised his Norman possessions and earldom to Walter, his eldest son, he bequeathed to his younger son, Edward de Evereux..."2

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Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 68, DEVEREUX 4. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), D'Evereux - Earls of Salisbury, p. 167. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.

Creoda (?)1

M, #14764
FatherCerdic (?) King of Wessex2 b. 467, d. 534
ReferenceGAV44 EDV44
Last Edited3 Jul 2020
      ; Per Med Lands: "CREODA . According to the West Saxon Genealogical Regnal List, Cynric was the son of Creoda, son of Cerdic. Creoda is not mentioned in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle."2 GAV-44 EDV-44.

; Ashley (British Kings) does not list a Creoda as the son of Cerdic and father of Cynric. He shows Cynric directly as the son of Cerdic.3

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Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 72, ENGLAND 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20AngloSaxon%20&%20Danish%20Kings.htm#_Toc389126257. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York, NY: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 298, 300-301. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  4. [S4775] David N. Dumville, "The West Saxon Genealogical Regnal List and the Chronology of Early Wessex", Peritia Vol. 4, pp. 21-66 (1985). Hereinafter cited as "Dumville [1985] The West Saxon Gen'l Regnal List."

Ina/Ine (?) King of Wessex1

M, #14765, d. 728
FatherCenred (?)1 b. 644
Last Edited15 Jul 2004
     Ina/Ine (?) King of Wessex married Athelburh (?), daughter of Aescwine (?) King of Wessex.2

Ina/Ine (?) King of Wessex died in 728 at Rome, Città Metropolitana di Roma Capitale, Lazio, Italy.3,2
      .4 Ina/Ine (?) King of Wessex was also known as Ine (?) King of Wessex.2 He was King of Wessex: [Ashley, pp. 308-309] INE West Saxons, 688-726. Ine was the first true king of the West Saxons, as distinct from a war-leader. He not only firmly established Wessex as a kingdom but introduced a code of laws and a strong administrative system to govern the land. The genealogies show his descent from CUTHA, though the links back to CERDIC may be more forced. Ine's name is singular, but is almost certainly an affectionate diminutive of a longer name (probably Cuthwine or Cenwine). Wine was a common suffix in Saxon names and means "friend". It was the name of the bishop of Wessex from 660-4, and Ine may have been named after him, as he was probably born at about that time. He was the son of Cenred, who was one of the sub-kings ruling a fragmented Wessex following the death of CENWEALH in 672. Cenred's territory seems to have been to the west, around Dorset, and it is likely that he continued to rule jointly with his son at the outset. Ine came to power following the abdication of CAEDWALLA. He probably did not succeed immediately as there would have been several claimants, and it is likely that initially he ruled with other sub-kings until he established his claim. He did this rapidly, however, for by late 688 he was already in the process of developing his law code, which was formulated over the next five years. Ine was the first to codify a set of laws for the Saxons, although Athelbert of Kent had produced one for his kingdom (Jutes and Franks) ninety years earlier. This was the key part of his re-organization of Wessex that enabled him to manage it as an single kingdom rather than a collection of sub-units, which had been the nature of the old Gewisse. By the time he had issued his law code, in 694, he had almost certainly eradicated the sub-kingdoms but had developed in their place a series of shires which coincide to a large degree with the modern counties, and these were administered by ealdormen or reeves who, in most cases, would have been the former sub-king. It needed a strong king to impose these changes and the memories of Ine that survive suggest that he was a harsh and unforgiving king (despite his name) who ruled with an iron hand and would brook no challenge. He continued to treat the South Saxons harshly in the early years of his reign, enslaving the common populace and imposing upon them his own client king, NOTHHELM, who was apparently related either directly or through marriage. He also exacted compensation from WIHTRED of Kent for the murder of Caedwalla's brother MUL. Ine established a firm relationship with Wihtred. Between them they agreed the boundary between Kent and Wessex which remained the Kentish boundary for over a thousand years. He also sought Wihtred's advice over his law code, drawing upon that already established in Kent. By 694 Ine was well in control of his realm and the next decade saw him seek to develop its economic and ecclesiastical prosperity. He created a new episcopal see at Sherborne, under Bishop Aldhelm in 706, with Daniel installed as the new bishop of Winchester. Ine also created a new town at Hamwic (Southampton) which became a centre for trade and crafts, and one of the largest towns in Saxon England. By the early years of the eighth century Wessex was a prosperous and well organized kingdom, firmly governed.
Ine's law code sought to be fair to the native British population even though they were regarded as inferior to the Saxons. There was almost certainly strong intermarriage between the two races, including within the royal family, and it seems likely that, working with Aldhelm, Ine endeavoured to bring the British of Dumnonia under his control. The British were already Christians but of the Celtic church. Following the Synod of Whitby in 664 the Anglo-Saxons had followed the Roman church, most notably in its calculation of the date of Easter. Soon after 706 we find Aldhelm in communication with GERAINT of Dumnonia, exhorting him to adopt the Roman church. Geraint refused, and Ine probably used this as an excuse to invade Devon. There were probably a series of raids and forays during 709 and 710 in which Ine was supported by Nothhelm, but in 710 Geraint was killed at the battle of Longport, and Devon fell under West Saxon rule. It was never extensively colonized by the Saxons, remaining predominantly British, but ceased to be a separate kingdom. Ine was never able to push his control into Cornwall. He was defeated by the Cornish in 722 at the river Tamar, and thereafter withdrew his forces.
Ine seems to have established a good alliance with the Mercians under ATHELBALD and CENRED as there is no evidence of any major hostilities during their reigns. However their successor CEOLRED was an ambitious young hothead with more recklessness than sense. In 715 his forces clashed with Ine's at Adam's Grave in Wiltshire. The cause of the battle is not recorded, but doubtless Ceolred was attempting to expand control over territories ever in dispute with Wessex, and Ine soon taught him a lesson. Despite his power, Ine's control over internal affairs clearly weakened in later years. The full facts are not clear and the tantalising clues in the ASC and later chronicles only provide hints. It seems likely, however, that by 721 Ine was facing internal dissension amongst claimants to the throne. In that year he killed a certain Cynewulf, and probably sent into exile Ealdbert, who may have been involved in Cynewulf's plot, or may have been another claimant. Support for Ealdbert must have been strong, though, for in 722 he was besieged in Taunton by Ine's queen, Athelburh, who destroyed Taunton in the process. For the queen to be involved suggests something close to home, and it may be that Ealdbert was Athelburh's own son. Ealdbert escaped, however, and sought refuge in Surrey and Sussex. Ine should have been able to rely on his client king in Sussex, ATHELSTAN, to hand Ealdbert over, but such was not the case. Ealdbert must have found support in Sussex, and the South Saxons used this as an opportunity to fight for independence. This civil war continued for three years until Ine defeated and killed Ealdbert in battle in 725. Ine was now in his sixties, and this campaign must have taken its toll. Moreover if Ealdbert was his son, his rebellion and death was a bitter blow to Ine's succession. It may have been this that caused Ine to abdicate in the following year and retire to Rome as a pilgrim. He died there two years later. Bede records that Ine abdicated in order to leave the kingdom "to younger men", but he did not leave it in safer hands, and it would be nearly eighty years before Wessex again saw a ruler of the stature of Ine. between 688 and 726.1,2

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 73, ENGLAND 8:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York, NY: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 298, 308-309. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  3. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 1-9, p. 1. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 1-8, p. 1.

Aelfthryth (?)1

M, #14766
FatherWulfrun (?)2,3
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited10 Jul 2020
     GAV-27.

Reference: Genealogics cites: The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle London, 1997. , Michael Swanton, editor, Reference: trees.3

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Robert I d'Eu Comte d'Eu1,2,3,4

M, #14767, b. circa 1020, d. between 14 April 1089 and 8 September 1093
FatherGuillaume I d'Hieme (?) comte d’Hiémois, comte d’Eu et de Brionne2,3,4,5,6,7 b. c 975
MotherLesceline de Tourville8,2,3,4,6,9,10 b. c 1000, d. 26 Jan 1057
ReferenceGAV27 EDV27
Last Edited23 Sep 2020
     Robert I d'Eu Comte d'Eu married Beatrice (?)
;
His 1st wife.1,3,4,11 Robert I d'Eu Comte d'Eu married Helisende (?) d'Avranches.1
Robert I d'Eu Comte d'Eu was born circa 1020; Racines et Histoire says b. ca 1020; Med Lands says b. 1005/10; Genealogics says b. ca 1018.4,11,12 He married Mathilde de Hauteville, daughter of Roger I de Hauteville Count of Sicily and Judith (?) d'Evreux, circa 1078
;
Her 1st husband; his 2nd wife, Repudiated.2,4,13,11 Robert I d'Eu Comte d'Eu and Mathilde de Hauteville were divorced before 1080.13
Robert I d'Eu Comte d'Eu died between 14 April 1089 and 8 September 1093; Boyer says d. 1089/93; Genealogy.EU Normandy page says d. 8/3/1089/93; Racines et Histoire says d. 14/4/1089; Genealogics says d. ca 8 Sep 1092/93; Med lands says d. 8 Sep 1089/93.1,3,4,12,11
Robert I d'Eu Comte d'Eu was buried between 1089 and 1093 at l'Abbaye Saint-Michel du Tréport, Le Treport, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1022, Caen, Departement du Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France
     DEATH     8 Sep 1089 (aged 66–67), Caen, Departement du Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France
     Robert d'Eu was count of Eu and Anglo-Norman. He was the eldest son and successor of Guillaume d'Eu, and Leseline de Turqueville. His father was the illegitimate son of Duke Richard I of Normandy. He served William the conqueror in his various expeditions. The Duke married Mathilde of Flanders, daughter of Baldwin V, count of Flanders, in the castle of Robert d'Eu. It is in the same castle of Eu that William the Conqueror makes an alliance, in 1065, with Harold, Earl of Kent, William would defeat Harold the following year at the battle of Hastings. Robert sent 60 ships with the fleet which landed in England and the Norman Conquest of England. About 1068-1070, William the Conqueror entrusted to Robert d'Eu, with the rape of Hastings. His son Guillaume II d'Eu is one of the few soldiers that are known with certainty being present at the famous battle of Hastings. The father and the son are owners of estates producing an income of app oximately 690 pounds sterling annually in the writing of the Domesday Book (1086). In exchange of the Castle, the town of Hastings and all his lands, the count of Eu must provide sixty Knights to serve the Crown. In 1069, he was charged by the King with Robert of Mortain to monitor the Danes including the fleet in the mouth of the Humber, while he suppresses the revolt initiated by Eadric the wild. When the Danes retreat to plunder, the two men and their army attack them unexpectedly and crush them, forcing them to flee by sea. After the death of William the Conqueror, the count of Eu follows some time Duke Robert Curthose. But rebuffed his weakness and his debauchery, the count with several other Norman lords, joined with William Rufus, which he receives the garrisons in castles. Very pious, he made donations throughout his life to the Church, including land to the Abbey of the Holy Trinity of Rouen (1051) and is witness to a Charter dated 1053. A widower, he married Mathilde de Hauteville (1062 – 1094), daughter of Roger I, count of Sicily, and Judith of Évreux. But he repudiated, and she remarried in 1080 to Raymond IV de Saint-Gilles (d. 1105), count of Toulouse and marquis of Provence. Roberts first wife was Beatrix of Falaise, perhaps sister of Herleva de Falaise:
     Their children were:
** Raoul, died before him, cited in 1036, in a Charter.
** Robert
** Condoha or Condor, daughter of the count of Eu, married in 1058 Fulk of Angoulême (en) mother of William V d ' Angoulême and grandmother of Wulgrin II of Angoulême.
** William II of Eu, succeeds Robert Eu as count of Eu in 1089, lord of Hastings.
** Count Robert died in 1089 and is buried in the Saint-Michel du Tréport Abbey. The Count founded the Abbey of le Tréport, near the town of Eu, between 1057 and 1066, the prayer of his first wife and the Duke William and Maurille Council, Archbishop of Rouen.

     Family Members
     Parents
          Count of Eu William I de Normandie 972–1057
          Leseline de Turqueville unknown–1058
     Spouse
          Bêatrice d'Eu unknown–1085
     BURIAL     l'Abbaye Saint-Michel du Tréport, Le Treport, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France
     Created by: Kat
     Added: 12 Jul 2012
     Find a Grave Memorial 93523950.14
      ; Per Genealogics:
     "Robert was son of Guillaume I, count of Hiémois and Eu, and Lesceline de Tourville. By his first wife Béatrice he had four sons and a daughter; two sons Guillaume and Armand and their daughter Eremburge would have progeny. Before December 1092 he married Mathilde de Hauteville, daughter of Roger I, count of Sicily and Eremburge de Mortain, but this marriage did not result in progeny. Before 1049 he founded the abbey of Le Tréport where he was buried after his death about 1092."12

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 693.12

; Per Med Lands:
     "ROBERT d'Eu, son of GUILLAUME Comte d'Hiémois et d'Eu & his wife Lesceline de Tourville ([1005/10]-8 Sep [1089/93], bur Le Tréport). Guillaume of Jumièges names “Rodbertum...Willelmum Suessionensem comitem atque Hugonem Luxoviensem præsulem” as the three sons of “ducis uno ex patre fratrem progenitum...Willelmum” and his wife “Lezscelinam...filiam...Turchetilli”, adding that Robert succeeded to his father’s county[1000]. He is named as the son of Guillaume Comte d'Eu by Orderic Vitalis[1001]. Robert’s date of birth is estimated from his having three sons who are named in a charter dated 1036. The date is consistent with his father’s estimated birth date, although it means that he must have been extremely old when he died. "Robertus comes Augensis…uxore Beatrice et filiis meis Radulfo, Willermo atque Roberto" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport by a charter dated 1036, witnessed by "Hugo vicecomes"[1002]. An undated charter, dated to the [1035/50], records the donation of "predium Heltonis quod possedit Gozelinus vicecomes" to the abbey of Sainte-Trinité at Rouen, with the support of "Willelmus comes Normanniæ, et Willelmus, filius Willelmi comitis, qui et hæres Heltonis, et Robertus comes frater eius…Niellus…et Turstinus vicecomites", subscribed by "…filii Turchitilli Hugo et Goffridus necnon Walerannus comes", signed by "Gozelini vicecomitis, Heltonis, Willelmi heredis Heltonis, Walberti fratris Heltonis, Waleranni comitis, Alberici comitis, Heltæ filii Heltonis…"[1003]. An undated charter, dated to [1049], records that "Lezelina comitissa…cum filiis suis" was expelled "de castro Ou" and donated land on the banks of the Seine to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen, with the consent of "filiis suis Hugone, Willelmo, Rotberto"[1004]. He succeeded his father as Comte d'Eu, indicating presumably that he was the eldest son. Orderic Vitalis names “...Rodbertus comes, Willermi Aucensis Satrapæ filius...” among the leading lords under Guillaume II Duke of Normandy[1005]. "Rotbertus comes de Ou et Beatrix conjux eius" donated "jure hereditario silvam de Spinei" to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen, with the consent of "filiis suis", by undated charter dated to "tempore que discordia cepit inter [Willelmus comes Normanniæ] et Henricum regem Francorum", witnessed by "…Willelmi filii Osberni, Rodulfi camerarii…Goisfredi filii Osberni de Ou, Ansfredi fratris eius, Widonis filii Amalrici, Rainaldi de Sancto Martino, Osberti de Albert Villa…"[1006]. "Rotberti comitis de Auco" witnessed a charter of "Rogerius de Buslei" dated 1053[1007]. Robert of Torigny's De Immutatione Ordinis Monachorum records that "Lecelina comitissa Aucensis relicta Willermi comitis" founded "mon. Sancti Petri super Divam virorum et mon. fem. ante urbem Lexoviensem" with "filiis suis Roberto comite Aucensi et Hugone episcopo Lexoviensi"[1008]. The Brevis Relatio de Origine Willelmi Conquestoris records that "Roberto comite Augiensi" contributed 60 ships towards the invasion of England in 1066[1009]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Rodbertus Aucensium comes et Gauterius Gifardus et Radulfus de Mortuomari” and nearly all the seigneurs who lived “trans Sequanam usque ad mare” joined King William II against his brother Robert Duke of Normandy and received considerable sums to fortify their castles, dated to [1089/90][1010]. The necrology of Saint-Nicaise de Meulan records the death of "Robertus comes Aucensis", undated but listed among deaths recorded in early September[1011]. The necrology of Ulterioris Portus monastery records the death "8 Sep" of "Robertus comes Augensis hujus ecclesiæ fundator"[1012].
     "m firstly BEATRIX, daughter of --- (-10 Apr ----). "Robertus comes Augensis…uxore Beatrice et filiis meis Radulfo, Willermo atque Roberto" made donations to the abbey of St Michel, Tréport by a charter dated 1036, witnessed by "Hugo vicecomes"[1013]. "Rotbertus comes de Ou et Beatrix conjux eius" donated "jure hereditario silvam de Spinei" to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen, with the consent of "filiis suis", by undated charter dated to "tempore que discordia cepit inter [Willelmus comes Normanniæ] et Henricum regem Francorum"[1014]. The necrology of Ulterioris Portus monastery records the death "10 Apr" of "comitissa Beatrix, loci hujus...fundatrix"[1015]. This entry must be linked to the wife of Comte Robert as the latter is described as "nostri monasterii fundatoris" in the entry which relates to their son Guillaume (see below) and also in his own entry in the same necrology.
     "m secondly (repudiated before [1080][1016]) as her first husband, MATHILDE of Sicily, daughter of ROGER I Count of Sicily & his first wife Judith d'Evreux (1062-before 1094). The primary source which confirms her parentage and first marriage has not yet been identified. According to Houben[1017], Mathilde who married Robert Comte d'Eu was the daughter of Roger I Count of Sicily by his second wife, and a different person from Mathilde his daughter by his first wife who married Raymond Comte de Saint-Gilles. No source is quoted, but this seems unlikely from a chronological point of view as Roger's second marriage took place in [1077], and Robert Comte d'Eu died in [1089/93]. In addition, it seems unlikely that Roger, at the height of his power as Count of Sicily in the late 1080s, would have agreed to his daughter's marriage to an obscure count in northern France at the same time as arranging royal marriages for his other daughters. She married secondly ([1080], divorced [1088]) as his second wife, Raymond de Toulouse, who later succeeded as Raymond IV Comte de Toulouse. Malaterra records the marriage of "Raimundus comes Provinciarum" and "Matildem filiam suam [Rogerii Siculorum comitis]…de prima uxore" which he dates to 1080[1018]."
Med Lands cites:
[1000] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber V, III, p. 250.
[1001] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. II, Book III, p. 141.
[1002] Tréport Saint-Michel, 1, p. 1, and Round (1899) 230, p. 80.
[1003] Rouen Sainte-Trinité, II, p. 425.
[1004] Rouen Sainte-Trinité, LXIX, p. 457.
[1005] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, XI, p. 121.
[1006] Rouen Sainte-Trinité, VII, p. 426.
[1007] Rouen Sainte-Trinité, XLIII, p. 444.
[1008] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, p. 200.
[1009] Brevis Relatio de Origine Willelmi Conquestoris, p. 22.
[1010] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VIII, IX, p. 319.
[1011] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Prieuré de Saint-Nicaise de Meulan, p. 240.
[1012] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario monasterio ulteriores portus, p. 452.
[1013] Tréport Saint-Michel, 1, p. 1, and Round (1899) 230, p. 80.
[1014] Rouen Sainte-Trinité, 43, p. 444.
[1015] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario monasterio ulteriores portus, p. 452.
[1016] The date of Mathilde's second marriage.
[1017] Houben (2002), p. xxv, Table 2.
[1018] Malaterra, III.22, p. 70.11
GAV-27 EDV-27 GKJ-28.

; Per Boyer:
     "ROBERT, le comte d'Eu, died 8 Sept., between 1089 and 1093, and was buried in the Abbey of le Treport with his wife.
     "He manied probably first BEATRICET, of unknown parentage, who died 10 April, about 1085, and was buried in the Abbey of le Treport.
     "He probably manied second Helisende [CP, 14:311), called d'Avranches by Norr [46).
     "He succeeded Ralph de Limesy in Strigoil and Blandford St. Mary, and William de Ow in Crichel, Dorset and many other estates, to which William had succeeded the Saxon owner, AElfstan of Boscumbe.
     "He and Roger de Mortemer commanded jointly the Norman army at the battle of Mortemer in Feb. 1053/4. He founded the Abbey of le Treport.
     "He was given the honour or rape of Hastings, Thurrock in Essex, and Buckworth in Huntingdonshire. In 1069 he and Robert, Count of Mortain, as commanders in Lincolnshire, defeated the Danish invaders at Lindsey.
     "With the Count of Aumale, Walter Giffard, Ralph de Mortemer and other Norman lords he deserted Duke Robert in 1089 and placed his castles at the disposal of William Rufus.
Child:
     i, William, second but first surviving son and heir, d. c. 1095; m. (1) Beatrice de Builly, m. (2) Helisende d'Avranches, who survived him."15

; NB: There is some disagreement about the husbands of Mathilde, dau. of Roger I and his 1st wife, Judith d'Evreux. It appears that Roger had more than one dau. named Mathilde by his 3 wives. This may have contributed to the confusion about the se Mathildes' husbands.
     A. Genealogics' listing for this Mathilde only shows one husband, Raimond de Toulouse. However, the listing for Robert d'Eu shows him married to "Mathilde de Hautevillle", the dau. of Roger I and his 2nd wife, Eremburge de Mortain.
     B. Med Lands shows two husbands: m1 Robert d'Eu; m2 Raymond de Toulouse
     C. Entries for both Wikipedia and Wikipédia (Fr.) show this Mathilde as m1 Robert d'Eu and m2 Rayomd de Toulouse
     D. Different family pages of Racines et Histoire disagree between themselves:
D1. Hauteville: shows "1) Mathilde (Mahaut) ° 1062 + 1094 ép. 1) Rainolf d’Alife ép. 2) 1080 Raymond IV de Toulouse dit «de SaintGilles»
D2. d'EU: "Robert 1er d’Eu ... ép. 2) dès 1078 (rép. avant 1080) Mathilde de Sicile ° ~1062 + avant 1094 ... elle ép. 2) 1080 (div. 1088) Raymond de Toulouse"
D3. Toulouse: "Raymond IV de Toulouse ... ép. 2) 1080 (div.1088) Matilda (Mathilde) de Sicile ; répudiée par Robert, comte d’Eu"

     E. Genealogy.EU only shows her marriage to Raimond of Toulouse:
E1. Hauteville only shows one marriage: "B4. [1m.] Matilde, *1062, +1094; m.1080 Ct Raimond IV of Toulouse, Ct of Tripoli (+28.2.1105)"
E2. Toulouse shows: "Raimund IV Cte de Toulouse 2m: 1080 Matilda of Sicily (*1062 +1094)"

     F. However, per Stasser email 27 March 2004: "By Eremburge of Mortain, Count Roger had at least 1 daughter, named Mathilda, wife before December 1092 Robert, count of Eu (in 1094, Robert mentioned his mother in law Eremburge: Ego Robertus comes Guillelmi de Auceto filius ...pro saluta comitisse Mathildis uxoris mee...ac etiam voluntate gloriosissimi comitis Rogerii probissime comitisse Eremburge digissimorum patris et matris eius...)"
I prefer to follow the two marriages as shown by Med Lands for now, though the Stasser comment is worrisome. GA Vaut.16,13,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,12,25
;      Per Stasser email 27 March 2004: "By Eremburge of Mortain, Count Roger had at least 1 daughter, named Mathilda, wife before December 1092 Robert, count of Eu (in 1094, Robert mentioned his mother in law Eremburge: Ego Robertus comes Guillelmi de Auceto filius ...pro saluta comitisse Mathildis uxoris mee...ac etiam voluntate gloriosissimi comitis Rogerii probissime comitisse Eremburge digissimorum patris et matris eius...)"
     However, Med Lands shows the Mathilde who was dau. of Eremburge as m. bef 1127 as m. Rainulfo Conte di Alife e di Avellino. This leaves the possibility that she had m. firstly Robert d'Eu (who d. ca 1089) and then remarried to Rainulfo.
     To add more confusion, Wikipédia (Fr.) says thar the Mathilde who was dau. of Eremburge married Guigues III d'Albon, while the Mathilde who m. Rainul II d'Alife was actually the dau. of Roger's 3rd wife, Adelaida. Wikipédia (Fr.) mentions "Patrick Deret" as its source, but does not give a detailed citation for this source.
For now, I am chose to show only the marriage to Rainulfo. GA Vaut.25,26,27,18

Family 1

Helisende (?) d'Avranches

Family 2

Beatrice (?) d. c 10 Apr 1085
Children

Family 3

Mathilde de Hauteville b. 1062, d. b 1094

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 76-77, d'EU 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00163594&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d'Eu, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00163597&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#GuillaumeIEudied1057B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  7. [S4743] Geneagraphie - Families all over the world (Website), online <http://geneagraphie.com/>, Comte Guillaume II d' Eu: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I15065&tree=1. Hereinafter cited as Geneagraphie.
  8. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 76, d'EU 1.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lesceline de Tourville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00163598&tree=LEO
  10. [S4743] Geneagraphie, online http://geneagraphie.com/, Lesceline de Pontaudemer: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I42085&tree=1
  11. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#RobertIEudied1089B
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00163594&tree=LEO
  13. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SICILY.htm#Mathildediedbefore1094
  14. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 23 September 2020), memorial page for Robert d'Eu (1022–8 Sep 1089), Find a Grave Memorial no. 93523950, citing l'Abbaye Saint-Michel du Tréport, Le Treport, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France; Maintained by Kat (contributor 47496397), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/93523950/robert-d'eu. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  15. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 76-7, d'EU 2.
  16. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde of Sicily: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00535729&tree=LEO
  17. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_I_of_Sicily. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  18. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Roger Ier de Sicile: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Ier_de_Sicile. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  19. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Hauteville, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Hauteville.pdf
  20. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d'Eu, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Eu.pdf
  21. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Toulouse, p. 8: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Toulouse.pdf
  22. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, de Hauteville: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/italy/hautvle.html
  23. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Toulouse: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/toulouse/toul1.html
  24. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 21 April 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  25. [S1600] Thierry Stasser, "Stasser email 27 March 2004 "Re: Who is Konrad of Franconia?"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 27 March 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Stasser email 27 March 2004."
  26. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SICILY.htm#MathildeM1127RainulfAlife
  27. [S1549] Gregory A. Vaut, "GA Vaut Comment", 22 April 2020.
  28. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Condoha: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139998&tree=LEO
  29. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’ Angoulême, p.4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf
  30. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#CondohaMFoulquesAngouleme
  31. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eremburge de Mortain: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00080260&tree=LEO
  32. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#EremburgeMortaindied1087
  33. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Armand d'Eu: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00421114&tree=LEO
  34. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NEAPOLITAN%20NOBILITY.htm#ArmandMBeatriceHauteville
  35. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  36. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199038&tree=LEO
  37. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Vicomtes d’Avranches, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avranches.pdf
  38. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#GuillaumeIIEudied1096

Beatrice (?)1

F, #14768, d. circa 10 April 1085
ReferenceGAV26
Last Edited23 Sep 2020
     Beatrice (?) married Robert I d'Eu Comte d'Eu, son of Guillaume I d'Hieme (?) comte d’Hiémois, comte d’Eu et de Brionne and Lesceline de Tourville,
;
His 1st wife.1,2,3,4
Beatrice (?) died circa 10 April 1085.1
Beatrice (?) was buried after 10 April 1085 at l'Abbaye Saint-Michel du Tréport, Le Treport, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     unknown, Eu, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France
     DEATH     Apr 1085, France
     Family Members
     Spouse
          Robert d'Eu 1022–1089
     BURIAL     l'Abbaye Saint-Michel du Tréport, Le Treport, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France
     Created by: Anonymous
     Added: 14 Jan 2014
     Find a Grave Memorial 123459449.5
      ; Per Boyer:
     "ROBERT, le comte d'Eu, died 8 Sept., between 1089 and 1093, and was buried in the Abbey of le Treport with his wife.
     "He manied probably first BEATRICET, of unknown parentage, who died 10 April, about 1085, and was buried in the Abbey of le Treport.
     "He probably manied second Helisende [CP, 14:311), called d'Avranches by Norr [46).
     "He succeeded Ralph de Limesy in Strigoil and Blandford St. Mary, and William de Ow in Crichel, Dorset and many other estates, to which William had succeeded the Saxon owner, AElfstan of Boscumbe.
     "He and Roger de Mortemer commanded jointly the Norman army at the battle of Mortemer in Feb. 1053/4. He founded the Abbey of le Treport.
     "He was given the honour or rape of Hastings, Thurrock in Essex, and Buckworth in Huntingdonshire. In 1069 he and Robert, Count of Mortain, as commanders in Lincolnshire, defeated the Danish invaders at Lindsey.
     "With the Count of Aumale, Walter Giffard, Ralph de Mortemer and other Norman lords he deserted Duke Robert in 1089 and placed his castles at the disposal of William Rufus.
Child:
     i, William, second but first surviving son and heir, d. c. 1095; m. (1) Beatrice de Builly, m. (2) Helisende d'Avranches, who survived him."6

; NB: Geneagraphie identifies Beatrice as "Beatrice de Falaise", the dau. of Fulbert de Falaise. Several sources identify Robert's 1st wife as a Beatrice, but none of the others identify her parents. Therefore, I have chosen to ignore the Geneagraphie lineage. GA Vaut.7,8 GAV-26.

Family

Robert I d'Eu Comte d'Eu b. c 1020, d. bt 14 Apr 1089 - 8 Sep 1093
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 76-77, d'EU 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d'Eu, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#RobertIEudied1089B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 23 September 2020), memorial page for Bêatrice d'Eu (unknown–Apr 1085), Find a Grave Memorial no. 123459449, citing l'Abbaye Saint-Michel du Tréport, Le Treport, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France; Maintained by Anonymous (contributor 47882760), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/123459449/b%C3%AAatrice-d'eu. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  6. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 76-7, d'EU 2.
  7. [S4743] Geneagraphie - Families all over the world (Website), online <http://geneagraphie.com/>, Beatrice de Falaise: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I40122&tree=1. Hereinafter cited as Geneagraphie.
  8. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 23 Sep 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Condoha: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139998&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  10. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’ Angoulême, p.4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf
  11. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#CondohaMFoulquesAngouleme
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00163594&tree=LEO
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eremburge de Mortain: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00080260&tree=LEO
  14. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#EremburgeMortaindied1087
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Armand d'Eu: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00421114&tree=LEO
  16. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NEAPOLITAN%20NOBILITY.htm#ArmandMBeatriceHauteville
  17. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Vicomtes d’Avranches, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avranches.pdf
  18. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199038&tree=LEO
  19. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#GuillaumeIIEudied1096

Guillaume I d'Hieme (?) comte d’Hiémois, comte d’Eu et de Brionne1,2,3,4,5,6

M, #14770, b. circa 975
FatherRichard I "The Fearless" (?) 3rd Duke of Normandy2,3,4,5,6 b. 28 Aug 933, d. 20 Nov 996
ReferenceGAV26
Last Edited23 Sep 2020
     Guillaume I d'Hieme (?) comte d’Hiémois, comte d’Eu et de Brionne was born circa 975; Racines et Histoire says b. ca 978; Genealogy.EU says b. ca 972; Genealogics says b. ca 975/80.7,8,4 He married Lesceline de Tourville, daughter of Turchetil (?) Seigneur de Turqueville, de Tourville, de Turqueray and Anceline (?) de Montfort-sur-Risle.9,10,7,8,4,5,6,11,12,13

Guillaume I d'Hieme (?) comte d’Hiémois, comte d’Eu et de Brionne died in June 1025.8
Guillaume I d'Hieme (?) comte d’Hiémois, comte d’Eu et de Brionne died before 2 January 1040; Racines et Histoire says d. 2 Jan aft 1015; Genealogy.EU says d. 26 Jan 1057/58; Genealogics and Geneagraphie say b. bef 2 Jan 1040; The Henry Project says prob. d. bef 1040.7,4,3,6,14
Guillaume I d'Hieme (?) comte d’Hiémois, comte d’Eu et de Brionne was buried circa 2 January 1040 at Collégiale Notre-Dame et Saint-Laurent, Eu, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     972, Fecamp, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France
     DEATH     26 Jan 1057 (aged 84–85), Born in Normandy, William de Hiesmes, Count of Eu and Exemes, Lord of Monstreul, was the son of Richard the Fearless, Leader of the Normans.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Richard I of Normandy 933–996
     Spouse
          Leseline de Turqueville unknown–1058
     Siblings
          Richard II of Normandy unknown–1026
          Geoffrey Of Brionne unknown–1010
          Hawise De Normandie d'Rennes unknown–1034
          Robert II of Rouen unknown–1037
          Maud Of Normandy unknown–1006
          Mauger de Normandie 963–1040
          Emma of Normandy 988–1052
     Children
          Robert d'Eu 1022–1089
     BURIAL     Collégiale Notre-Dame et Saint-Laurent, Eu, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France
     Created by: Lido
     Added: 19 Jul 2009
     Find a Grave Memorial 39648093.15
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:693.
2. Henry Project , Baldwin, Stewart.



Geneagraphie cites: University of Hull Royal Database (England), Brian Tompsett, (copyright 1994, 1995, 1996 , Repository: WWW, University of Hull, Hull, UK HU6 7RX bct@tardis.ed.ac.uk).


The Henry Project cites: Douglas (1946) = David Douglas, "The Earliest Norman Counts", EHR 61 (1946), 129-156.4,6,14

; Per Genealogics:
     “Guillaume was born between 975 and 980, the illegitimate son of Richard I 'the Fearless', duke of Normandy. He received the title of count of Eu from his half-brother Richard II 'the Good', duke of Normandy, after the death of the first count, Guillaume's brother Geoffroy de Brionne. He may already then have been invested with the countship of Hiémois.
     “According to the chronicler Guillaume de Jumièges, Guillaume rebelled against Richard II. According to one story not accepted by all historians, Guillaume was captured by Raoul d'Ivry and imprisoned under the guard of Turchetil, seigneur de Tourville, de Turqueray. He managed to escape with the help of Turchetil's daughter Lesceline, whom he later married. Guillaume was later pardoned by Richard, who sanctioned his marriage to Lesceline.
     “Guillaume and Lesceline had three sons, Robert, Guillaume Bussac and Hugues. Robert and Guillaume would have progeny, while Hugues would have a Church career and become bishop of Lisieux.
     “Guillaume died on 2 January after 1015 but before 1040.”.4

; This is the same person as ”William I, Count of Eu” at Wikipedia and as ”Guillaume d'Eu” at Wikipédia (FR).16,17 GAV-26 EDV-28 GKJ-28. Guillaume I d'Hieme (?) comte d’Hiémois, comte d’Eu et de Brionne was also known as Guillaume I de Hieme.18 Guillaume I d'Hieme (?) comte d’Hiémois, comte d’Eu et de Brionne was also known as William Poincius Duke of Normandy.19

; Per Boyer:
     "This line was developed by G.W. Watson in Cokayne's Complete Peerage [5:151-175).
     "GUILLAUME, le comte d'Eu (now in the arrondisement de Dieppe in France [Loyd, Anglo-Norman Families, 40]), an illegitimate son of Richard I, Duke of Normandy, died 2 Jan., year unknown, and was buried in the Collegiate Church of Eu, which he founded.
     "He married LESCELINE DE TURQUEVIlLE, daughter ofTurketil, seigneur de Turqueville, who had been Guillaume's jailer (or gaoler) at Rouen. She was the sister of Anschetil, seigneur de Harcourt. As his widow she took the veil, died 26 Jan. 1057/8; and was buried in the abbey of St. Pierre-sur-Dives, which she had founded.
     "He received from his father the comte of the Exmesin or Hiemois. However, he was imprisoned at Rouen for rebellion against his half-brother, Richard II, Duke of No1mandy. He escaped, submitted to the Duke, was pardoned and given the comte of Eu, of which his nephew Gilbert (ancestor of the family of Clare), had recently been deprived.
     "Children, given by Watson [CP, 5:152):
i. Hugh T became a bishop in 1049.
ii. William, m. c. 1058 Adelais, dau. of le comte Renaud de S9issons; took refuge in France.
iii. Robert, heir, d. c. 1091; m. Beatrice."9


; Per Med Lands:
     "GUILLAUME de Normandie, illegitimate son of RICHARD I "Sans Peur" Comte de Normandie & his mistress --- (978-1057). According to Dudo of Saint-Quentin[985], he was an illegitimate son of Richard I by a mistress other than Gunnora. Guillaume of Jumièges names “unus Godefridus, alter...Willelmus” as the two sons of Richard “ex concubinis”[986]. Robert of Torigny names "unus Godefridus alter…Willermus" as sons of "Ricardi primi ducis Normanniæ" by concubines, recording that Guillaume was first "comes…Aucensis" and after the death of his brother became "comes Brionnensis"[987]. An agreement between the abbots of Jumièges and Bougeuil concerning an exchange of land in Poitou, by charter dated [13 Apr/4 Apr] 1012, is subscribed by "Richardus…filius Ricardi principi magni…Robertus archiepiscopus…ecclesie Rotomagensis et Vuillelmus et Malgerus fratres Richardi comitis…"[988]. Comte d'Hiémois et Comte d'Eu. Guillaume of Jumièges records the rebellion of “ducis uno ex patre fratrem progenitum...Willelmum”, who had received “Oximensem” from his brother, his capture and imprisonment “in Rothomagensis urbis turre”, before his escape five years later and subsequent reconciliation with his brother who granted him “Ocensem comitatum” and his marriage to “Lezscelinam...filiam...Turchetilli”[989]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Willermus Aucensis comes instinctu religionæ conjugis suæ Lezscelinæ” founded “abbatiam sanctæ Mariæ super rivulum Divæ”[990].
     "m LESCELINE, daughter of TURCHETIL Seigneur de Tourville & his wife --- (-26 Jan [1057/58]). Guillaume of Jumièges records the rebellion of “ducis uno ex patre fratrem progenitum...Willelmum”, who had received “Oximensem” from his brother, his capture and imprisonment “in Rothomagensis urbis turre”, before his escape five years later and subsequent reconciliation with his brother who granted him “Ocensem comitatum” and his marriage to “Lezscelinam...filiam...Turchetilli”[991]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Willermus Aucensis comes instinctu religionæ conjugis suæ Lezscelinæ” founded “abbatiam sanctæ Mariæ super rivulum Divæ”[992]. An undated charter, dated to [1049], records that "Lezelina comitissa…cum filiis suis" was expelled "de castro Ou" and donated land on the banks of the Seine to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen, with the consent of "filiis suis Hugone, Willelmo, Rotberto"[993]. Robert of Torigny's De Immutatione Ordinis Monachorum records that "Lecelina comitissa Aucensis relicta Willermi comitis" founded "mon. Sancti Petri super Divam virorum et mon. fem. ante urbem Lexoviensem" with "filiis suis Roberto comite Aucensi et Hugone episcopo Lexoviensi"[994]."
Med Lands cites:
[985] Dudo of Saint-Quentin, Chapter 58.
[986] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber IV, XVIII, p. 247.
[987] Chronique de Robert de Torigny I, 965, p. 25.
[988] Jumièges, Tome I, VII, p. 16.
[989] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber V, III, p. 250.
[990] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, I, p. 13.
[991] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber V, III, p. 250.
[992] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, I, p. 13.
[993] Rouen Sainte-Trinité, LXIX, p. 457.
[994] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, p. 200.5


; Per Racines et Histoire (Comtes d’Eu ): “Guillaume de Normandie ° ~978 + un 02/01 après 1015 (1057 ? selon Medlands) comte d’Hiémois, fait comte d’Eu et de Brionne par son frère (~1015), se rebelle contre son père, emprisonné 5 ans à Rouen (cité chartes Jumièges et Bourgueil 13/04-14/05/1012 et 1035)
     ép. Lesceline (Lanceline) de Turqueville (don de terre à la Sainte-Trinité de Rouen 1049) + 26/01/1058 ns (fille de Turchetil d’Harcourt, seigneur de Tourville, et d’Anceline de Montfort-sur-Risle)”.3

; Per Genealogy.EU (Normandy): “D9. [?m.] William, Cte d'Eu, *ca 972, +26.1.1057/58; m.Leseline de Turqueville (+26.1.1057/58)”.7 He and Lesceline de Tourville were Per Med Lands:
     "LESCELINE (-26 Jan [1057/58]). Guillaume of Jumièges records the rebellion of “ducis uno ex patre fratrem progenitum...Willelmum”, who had received “Oximensem” from his brother, his capture and imprisonment “in Rothomagensis urbis turre”, before his escape five years later and subsequent reconciliation with his brother who granted him “Ocensem comitatum” and his marriage to “Lezscelinam...filiam...Turchetilli”[1402]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Willermus Aucensis comes instinctu religionæ conjugis suæ Lezscelinæ” founded “abbatiam sanctæ Mariæ super rivulum Divæ”[1403]. "Lezelina comitissa" donated land bordering the Seine to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen dated [1049], which also names her three sons (in order) Hugues, Guillaume and Robert[1404]. Robert of Torigny's De Immutatione Ordinis Monachorum records that "Lecelina comitissa Aucensis relicta Willermi comitis" founded "mon. Sancti Petri super Divam virorum et mon. fem. ante urbem Lexoviensem" with "filiis suis Roberto comite Aucensi et Hugone episcopo Lexoviensi"[1405].
     "m GUILLAUME Comte d'Eu, illegitimate son of RICHARD I "Sans Peur" Comte de Normandie & his mistress --- (978-1057). "
Med Lands cites:
[1402] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber V, III, p. 250.
[1403] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, I, p. 13.
[1404] Rouen Sainte-Trinité, 69, p. 457.
[1405] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, p. 200.12

Family

Lesceline de Tourville b. c 1000, d. 26 Jan 1057
Children

Citations

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  14. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Richard I "Sans Peur" ("the Fearless"): https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/richa000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  15. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 23 September 2020), memorial page for Count of Eu William I “de Hiesmes” de Normandie (972–26 Jan 1057), Find a Grave Memorial no. 39648093, citing Collégiale Notre-Dame et Saint-Laurent, Eu, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France; Maintained by Lido (contributor 47122647), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/39648093/count_of_eu_william_i-de_normandie. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
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Lesceline de Tourville1,2

F, #14771, b. circa 1000, d. 26 January 1057
FatherTurchetil (?) Seigneur de Turqueville, de Tourville, de Turqueray3,4,5,6,1,2,7 b. b 960, d. a 1024
MotherAnceline (?) de Montfort-sur-Risle4,5,8,1,7 b. c 953
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited23 Sep 2020
     Lesceline de Tourville was born circa 1000 at Turqueville, Normandy, France.1 She married Guillaume I d'Hieme (?) comte d’Hiémois, comte d’Eu et de Brionne, son of Richard I "The Fearless" (?) 3rd Duke of Normandy.3,4,9,5,10,11,12,1,2,7

Lesceline de Tourville died on 26 January 1057; Genealogy.EU (Harcourt 1 page) says d. 1058; Genealogics and Med Lands says d. 26 Jan 1057/58.3,4,5,1,2,7
Lesceline de Tourville was buried after 26 January 1057 at L'abbaye de Saint-Pierre-sur-Dives, Saint-Pierre-sur-Dives, Departement du Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     unknown, Caen, Departement du Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France
     DEATH     26 Jan 1058, Caen, Departement du Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France
     Leseline was the daughter of Torf II de Turqueville and Adeline de Montfort. She was born about 986 in Turqueville, Normandy, France. She married Guillaume d'Eu, the illegitimate son of Richard I of Normandy, in 1008. They were the parents of Robert, Guillaume and Hugh.
     Family Members
     Spouse
          Count of Eu William I de Normandie 972–1057
     Children
          Robert d'Eu 1022–1089
     BURIAL     L'abbaye de Saint-Pierre-sur-Dives, Saint-Pierre-sur-Dives, Departement du Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France
     Created by: Kat
     Added: 12 Jul 2012
     Find a Grave Memorial 93490281.13
      ; Per Racines et Histoire (Comtes d’Eu ): “Guillaume de Normandie ° ~978 + un 02/01 après 1015 (1057 ? selon Medlands) comte d’Hiémois, fait comte d’Eu et de Brionne par son frère (~1015), se rebelle contre son père, emprisonné 5 ans à Rouen (cité chartes Jumièges et Bourgueil 13/04-14/05/1012 et 1035)
     ép. Lesceline (Lanceline) de Turqueville (don de terre à la Sainte-Trinité de Rouen 1049) + 26/01/1058 ns (fille de Turchetil d’Harcourt, seigneur de Tourville, et d’Anceline de Montfort-sur-Risle)”.14

; Per Med Lands:
     "GUILLAUME de Normandie, illegitimate son of RICHARD I "Sans Peur" Comte de Normandie & his mistress --- (978-1057). According to Dudo of Saint-Quentin[985], he was an illegitimate son of Richard I by a mistress other than Gunnora. Guillaume of Jumièges names “unus Godefridus, alter...Willelmus” as the two sons of Richard “ex concubinis”[986]. Robert of Torigny names "unus Godefridus alter…Willermus" as sons of "Ricardi primi ducis Normanniæ" by concubines, recording that Guillaume was first "comes…Aucensis" and after the death of his brother became "comes Brionnensis"[987]. An agreement between the abbots of Jumièges and Bougeuil concerning an exchange of land in Poitou, by charter dated [13 Apr/4 Apr] 1012, is subscribed by "Richardus…filius Ricardi principi magni…Robertus archiepiscopus…ecclesie Rotomagensis et Vuillelmus et Malgerus fratres Richardi comitis…"[988]. Comte d'Hiémois et Comte d'Eu. Guillaume of Jumièges records the rebellion of “ducis uno ex patre fratrem progenitum...Willelmum”, who had received “Oximensem” from his brother, his capture and imprisonment “in Rothomagensis urbis turre”, before his escape five years later and subsequent reconciliation with his brother who granted him “Ocensem comitatum” and his marriage to “Lezscelinam...filiam...Turchetilli”[989]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Willermus Aucensis comes instinctu religionæ conjugis suæ Lezscelinæ” founded “abbatiam sanctæ Mariæ super rivulum Divæ”[990].
     "m LESCELINE, daughter of TURCHETIL Seigneur de Tourville & his wife --- (-26 Jan [1057/58]). Guillaume of Jumièges records the rebellion of “ducis uno ex patre fratrem progenitum...Willelmum”, who had received “Oximensem” from his brother, his capture and imprisonment “in Rothomagensis urbis turre”, before his escape five years later and subsequent reconciliation with his brother who granted him “Ocensem comitatum” and his marriage to “Lezscelinam...filiam...Turchetilli”[991]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Willermus Aucensis comes instinctu religionæ conjugis suæ Lezscelinæ” founded “abbatiam sanctæ Mariæ super rivulum Divæ”[992]. An undated charter, dated to [1049], records that "Lezelina comitissa…cum filiis suis" was expelled "de castro Ou" and donated land on the banks of the Seine to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen, with the consent of "filiis suis Hugone, Willelmo, Rotberto"[993]. Robert of Torigny's De Immutatione Ordinis Monachorum records that "Lecelina comitissa Aucensis relicta Willermi comitis" founded "mon. Sancti Petri super Divam virorum et mon. fem. ante urbem Lexoviensem" with "filiis suis Roberto comite Aucensi et Hugone episcopo Lexoviensi"[994]."
Med Lands cites:
[985] Dudo of Saint-Quentin, Chapter 58.
[986] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber IV, XVIII, p. 247.
[987] Chronique de Robert de Torigny I, 965, p. 25.
[988] Jumièges, Tome I, VII, p. 16.
[989] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber V, III, p. 250.
[990] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, I, p. 13.
[991] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber V, III, p. 250.
[992] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, I, p. 13.
[993] Rouen Sainte-Trinité, LXIX, p. 457.
[994] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, p. 200.11


; Per Boyer:
     "This line was developed by G.W. Watson in Cokayne's Complete Peerage [5:151-175).
     "GUILLAUME, le comte d'Eu (now in the arrondisement de Dieppe in France [Loyd, Anglo-Norman Families, 40]), an illegitimate son of Richard I, Duke of Normandy, died 2 Jan., year unknown, and was buried in the Collegiate Church of Eu, which he founded.
     "He married LESCELINE DE TURQUEVIlLE, daughter ofTurketil, seigneur de Turqueville, who had been Guillaume's jailer (or gaoler) at Rouen. She was the sister of Anschetil, seigneur de Harcourt. As his widow she took the veil, died 26 Jan. 1057/8; and was buried in the abbey of St. Pierre-sur-Dives, which she had founded.
     "He received from his father the comte of the Exmesin or Hiemois. However, he was imprisoned at Rouen for rebellion against his half-brother, Richard II, Duke of No1mandy. He escaped, submitted to the Duke, was pardoned and given the comte of Eu, of which his nephew Gilbert (ancestor of the family of Clare), had recently been deprived.
     "Children, given by Watson [CP, 5:152):
i. Hugh T became a bishop in 1049.
ii. William, m. c. 1058 Adelais, dau. of le comte Renaud de S9issons; took refuge in France.
iii. Robert, heir, d. c. 1091; m. Beatrice."3


; Per Genealogy.EU (Normandy): “D9. [?m.] William, Cte d'Eu, *ca 972, +26.1.1057/58; m.Leseline de Turqueville (+26.1.1057/58)”.9

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:693.
2. Histoire et Genealogie de la Maison de Harcourt, 1974, Martin, Georges. 58.



Geneagraphie cites: University of Hull Royal Database (England), Brian Tompsett, (copyright 1994, 1995, 1996 , Repository: WWW, University of Hull, Hull, UK HU6 7RX bct@tardis.ed.ac.uk).1,7 Lesceline de Tourville was also known as Lesceline de Pont-Audemer.7 Lesceline de Tourville was also known as Lesceline de Turqueville.3,4,5

; Per Genealogics:
     “Lesceline was the daughter of Turchetil, seigneur de Tourville, and Anceline de Montfort-sur-Risle. With her husband Guillaume I, comte d'Hiémois, comte d'Eu, illegitimate son of Richard I 'the Fearless', duke of Normandy, she had three sons, Guillaume Bussac, Robert and Hugues. Guillaume and Robert would have progeny, while Hugues would have a Church career and become bishop of Lisieux.
     “About 1046-47 Lesceline founded the abbey of St.Pierre-sur-Dives, and gave lands to the abbey of Sainte-Catherine du Mont in Rouen in 1049. She entered the religious life when she became a widow around 1040, and she died about seventeen years later.”.1 GAV-27 EDV-28 GKJ-28. She and Guillaume I d'Hieme (?) comte d’Hiémois, comte d’Eu et de Brionne were Per Med Lands:
     "LESCELINE (-26 Jan [1057/58]). Guillaume of Jumièges records the rebellion of “ducis uno ex patre fratrem progenitum...Willelmum”, who had received “Oximensem” from his brother, his capture and imprisonment “in Rothomagensis urbis turre”, before his escape five years later and subsequent reconciliation with his brother who granted him “Ocensem comitatum” and his marriage to “Lezscelinam...filiam...Turchetilli”[1402]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Willermus Aucensis comes instinctu religionæ conjugis suæ Lezscelinæ” founded “abbatiam sanctæ Mariæ super rivulum Divæ”[1403]. "Lezelina comitissa" donated land bordering the Seine to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen dated [1049], which also names her three sons (in order) Hugues, Guillaume and Robert[1404]. Robert of Torigny's De Immutatione Ordinis Monachorum records that "Lecelina comitissa Aucensis relicta Willermi comitis" founded "mon. Sancti Petri super Divam virorum et mon. fem. ante urbem Lexoviensem" with "filiis suis Roberto comite Aucensi et Hugone episcopo Lexoviensi"[1405].
     "m GUILLAUME Comte d'Eu, illegitimate son of RICHARD I "Sans Peur" Comte de Normandie & his mistress --- (978-1057). "
Med Lands cites:
[1402] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber V, III, p. 250.
[1403] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, I, p. 13.
[1404] Rouen Sainte-Trinité, 69, p. 457.
[1405] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, p. 200.2

Citations

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  14. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d'Eu, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Eu.pdf
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00163594&tree=LEO
  16. [S1841] Leo van de Pas, "van de Pas email 24 Nov 2004 "Re: Husband(s) of Alice de Roucy?"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 24 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "van de Pas email 24 Nov 2004."
  17. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume Bussac: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120726&tree=LEO
  18. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#GuillaumeSoissonsdied1076
  19. [S4743] Geneagraphie, online http://geneagraphie.com/, Comte Guillaume de Soissons, "Busac": https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I113747&tree=1

Sir Anthony Oughtred Knt.1,2

M, #14772, b. 1485, d. 20 December 1534
FatherSir Henry Ughtred Knt., 6th Baron Ughtred b. 1477, d. 10 Sep 1510; van de Pas says he is son of Sir Robert Ughtred, 5th Baron Ughtred, but Richardson shows him to be the grandson of Robert3,4,2
MotherAgnes Constable5,4,2
Last Edited12 Dec 2012
     Sir Anthony Oughtred Knt. was born in 1485 at Kexby, East Riding, co. York, England.4 He married Elizabeth Seymour, daughter of Sir John Seymour Knt., KB, of Wolf Hall, Wiltshire and Margaret (Margery) Wentworth, in 1529 at Kexby, East Riding, co. York, England,
; her 1st husband.1,6,4,2,7,8
Sir Anthony Oughtred Knt. died on 20 December 1534 at Kexby, East Riding, co. York, England.4,2,8
      ; van de Pas cites: 1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938, Reference: Page 2281
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: XII/2 164.4 He was Governor of Jersey, Captain of Berwick.2 Sir Anthony Oughtred Knt. was also known as Sir Anthony Ughtred.6

Family

Elizabeth Seymour b. 1509, d. b 9 Jun 1563

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Somerset Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Cromwell 15: p. 247. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Robert Ughtred: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00512692&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Anthony Ughtred: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00211887&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Katherine Eure: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00512693&tree=LEO
  6. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Winchester Family Page.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Seymour: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00052567&tree=LEO
  8. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Paulet 16: pp. 572-3.

Ade (?) de Soissons1

F, #14773, b. between 1058 and 1059
FatherGuillaume II Busac (?) Comte d'Eu, Hiemois, Soissons et Troyes2,3 b. c 1020, d. 1076
MotherAdélaide/Aelis/Adelais de Soissons Cts de Troyes et de Soissons1,4 b. c 1042, d. 1105
ReferenceEDV25
Last Edited15 Oct 2020
     Ade (?) de Soissons married Gautier (ou Hugues ?) (?) comte de Braine.1
Ade (?) de Soissons was born between 1058 and 1059.1
     EDV-25.

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d'Eu, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d'Eu, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Eu.pdf
  3. [S4743] Geneagraphie - Families all over the world (Website), online <http://geneagraphie.com/>, Comte Guillaume de Soissons, "Busac": https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I113747&tree=1. Hereinafter cited as Geneagraphie.
  4. [S4743] Geneagraphie, online http://geneagraphie.com/, Adelaide de Soissons: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I390239&tree=1

Guillaume II Busac (?) Comte d'Eu, Hiemois, Soissons et Troyes1,2,3,4,5,6

M, #14774, b. circa 1020, d. 1076
FatherGuillaume I d'Hieme (?) comte d’Hiémois, comte d’Eu et de Brionne7,1,2,8,9,10,4,5,3,6 b. c 975
MotherLesceline de Tourville7,1,2,9,11,12,4,3,5,6 b. c 1000, d. 26 Jan 1057
Last Edited29 Oct 2020
     Guillaume II Busac (?) Comte d'Eu, Hiemois, Soissons et Troyes was born circa 1020; Genealogics says b. ca 1020; Racines et Histoire says b. bef 1025; Geneagraphie says b. ca 1010.3,4,6 He married Adélaide/Aelis/Adelais de Soissons Cts de Troyes et de Soissons, daughter of Renaud I de Bar comte de Soissons and Adelaide (?) de Roucy, circa 1058
; van de Pas cites: ES III/4 729A, says m. 1057/59.7,1,2,4,5,6,13,14
Guillaume II Busac (?) Comte d'Eu, Hiemois, Soissons et Troyes died in 1076; Genealogics says d. ca 1076; Genealogy.EU Normandy p. says d. aft 1076; Racines et Histoire says aft 1076; Geneagraphie says d. 31 Mar 1058.1,3,4,5,6
      ; This is the same person as ”William Busac” at Wikipedia and as ”Guillaume Busac” at Wikipédia (FR).15,16

; Per van de Pas:
     "I think another ES Tafel may clean up this problem, at least a little :-(
     "ES III/4 729A This Tafel covers the Counts of Bar-sur-Aube and Soissons In the fourth generations Nocher II Count of Bar-sur-Aube "could be" the father of Renaud I Count of Soissons, he died 1057, no wife is displayed for Renaud I and he has two children :
1.Guy II Count of Soissons also dies in 1057 not married, no children
2.Adele Countes of Soissons (died probably 1105) married in 1057/1059 Guillaume II Bussac, Count d'Eu, and Count of Soissons.

     "No doubt, there are the Renaud I, Adele and William/Guillaume referred to.
     "Underneath Adele and Guillaume is a reference to ES VII Tafel 15.
     "The reduced version of that tafel is
** Richard I, Duke of Normandy had an unnamed mistress and by her
was father of
** Guillaume I Count d'Jiemois and Eu, married Lesceline
they are parents of
** Guillaume II Bussac, Count d'Eu, Count of Soissons, married Adele Countess of Soissons.
They had five children
     1. Renaud II, Count of Soissons 1082/1084 not married
2. Jean Count of Soissons, married his son married but died childless
3. Manasses, Bishop of Cambrai and Soissons
4. (Ramentrudis) who married Ives de Nesle
5.daughter
2.Jean was the father of Renaud III, Count of Soissons, who in 1141 becomes a monk and passes the County of Soissons to Ives II de Nesle.
     "To find out who Ives II is we go to same ES Tafel 16
** Ives de Nesle, married (Ramentrudis) de Soissons
parents of
** Radulf, Seigneur de Nesle 1103/1125 married Rainarde
parents of
** 1.Ives II de Nesle who married Yolande of Hainault, inherited Soissons died
childless
** 3. Radulf de Nesle Viscount of Brugge, his first and then third son becomes Count of Soissons
     "This part of the genealogy can be found on my website http://www.genealogics.org with the appropriate secondary sources references. Sadly, it is impossible for me to record the sources used in ES
Best wshes, Leo van de Pas Canberra, Australia“.2

; Per Genealogics:
     “Guillaume was born about 1020, the son of Guillaume I, comte d'Hiémois, comte d'Eu, and Lesceline de Tourville. The name of Bussac was attached to him by the medieval chronicler Robert de Torigny.
     “There is debate among historians whether Guillaume was the older or younger son, and so whether he at one stage held the county of Eu. One view is that his brother Robert inherited the county. The other, held by several historians, is that he inherited Eu from his father, but then rebelled against his uncle Richard II 'the Good', duke of Normandy, was expelled from the fortress of Eu, was deprived of his county and sent into exile about 1050.
     “Guillaume then paid homage to Henri I, king of France. He gave to Guillaume in marriage Adélaide de Soissons, daughter and heiress of Renaud de Soissons, Grand Maitre d'Hôtel de France, one of the great officers of the crown of France and head of the king's household. Guillaume became count of Soissons by right of his wife. They had four children, Renaud II, Jean I, Manasses and Ramentrudis, of whom Jean I and Ramentrudis would have progeny.
     “Guillaume died about 1076.
     “Renaud II succeeded as count of Soissons, followed by his brother Jean I. Jean I's son Renaud III succeeded him. In 1141 the childless Renaud III transferred the county of Soissons to Ives II de Nesle and became a monk.
     “Ives II, who was the son of Ives de Nesle and Ramentrudis de Soissons, sister of Renaud II and Jean I, was also childless, and left Soissons to Conon de Nesle, eldest son of his brother Radulf de Nesle, Burggraaf van Brugge. Conon, who was also childless, left Soissons to his youngest brother Raoul, who would have progeny.”.4

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 7:16.4 Guillaume II Busac (?) Comte d'Eu, Hiemois, Soissons et Troyes was also known as William (Guillaume) (?) Comte de Soissons.7,17

; Per Racines et Histoire (Comtes d’Eu): “Guillaume «Busac» d’Eu ° avant 1025 + ~1076 comte d’Eu, Hiémois, Soissons et Troyes
ép.1058 Adélaïde de Soissons (alias Aélis de Troyes) * ° ~1042 + 31/03 ou 06/04/1079 (ou 18/09/1066) comtesse de Troyes et de Soissons (citée charte 1049)”


Per Racines et Histoire (Soissons): “Adela de Soissons + 1105 comtesse de Soissons
ép. Guillaume II de Normandie dit «Busac», comte d’Eu + 1076 rebelle en Normandie, en exil en France où il est marié et investi du comté de Soissons par Henri 1er (fils de Guillaume comte d’Hiémois et d’Eu, et de Lesceline de Harcourt) ”.3,18

; Per Genealogy.EU (Normandy): “E1. William, Cte d'Eu, Exemes, Soissons et Troyes, +after 1076; m.1058 Aelis, Cts de Troyes et de Soissons (+18.9.1066)”.19

; Per Med Lands:
     "[ADELA (-[1105]). Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Willelmus cognomento Busacius” plotted rebellion against Guillaume II Duke of Normandy, who besieged “castrum Oucis” and forced Guillaume into exile with Henri I King of France, who granted him “comitatum Suessionis...cum quadam nobili coniuge”[669]. This source does not link the grant of the county of Soissons to Guillaume’s marriage to the heiress of the county, nor does the wording of the passage even imply that connection although such a link is the most obvious explanation for the grant. No other primary source has yet been identified which confirms her parentage and marriage. If Guillaume’s wife was the heiress of Soissons, the chronology suggests that she could have been the sister of Comte Guy [II], although she could also have been a more remote relation. She is named Adela in secondary sources but no primary source has been identified which confirms that this name is correct.
     "m GUILLAUME "Busac" d'Eu, son of GUILLAUME Comte d'Hiémois et d'Eu [Normandy] & his wife Lesceline de Tourville (-[1076]).]"
Med Lands cites:
[669] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, XX, p. 277.14
He was Comte d'Eu circa 1077.16

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  2. [S1841] Leo van de Pas, "van de Pas email 24 Nov 2004 "Re: Husband(s) of Alice de Roucy?"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 24 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "van de Pas email 24 Nov 2004."
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d'Eu, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Eu.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume Bussac: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120726&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#GuillaumeSoissonsdied1076. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S4743] Geneagraphie - Families all over the world (Website), online <http://geneagraphie.com/>, Comte Guillaume de Soissons, "Busac": https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I113747&tree=1. Hereinafter cited as Geneagraphie.
  7. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 76, d'EU 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00163597&tree=LEO
  9. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#GuillaumeIEudied1057B
  10. [S4743] Geneagraphie, online http://geneagraphie.com/, Comte Guillaume II d' Eu: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I15065&tree=1
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lesceline de Tourville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00163598&tree=LEO
  12. [S4743] Geneagraphie, online http://geneagraphie.com/, Lesceline de Pontaudemer: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I42085&tree=1
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adélaide de Soissons: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00636363&tree=LEO
  14. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#AdelaSoissonsdied1105
  15. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Busac. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  16. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Guillaume Busac: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillaume_Busac. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  17. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I31932
  18. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Soissons, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Soissons.pdf
  19. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  20. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#RamentrudisSoissonsMIvesNesle
  21. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I33233
  22. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’Eu, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Eu.pdf

Adélaide/Aelis/Adelais de Soissons Cts de Troyes et de Soissons1,2,3,4,5,6,7

F, #14775, b. circa 1042, d. 1105
FatherRenaud I de Bar comte de Soissons1,4,5,6,7 b. c 987, d. 1057
MotherAdelaide (?) de Roucy8,9,7
ReferenceEDV27
Last Edited8 Nov 2020
     Adélaide/Aelis/Adelais de Soissons Cts de Troyes et de Soissons was born circa 1042; Racines et Histoire (Comtes d'Eu) & Geneagrpahie say b. ca 1042.4,7 She married Guillaume II Busac (?) Comte d'Eu, Hiemois, Soissons et Troyes, son of Guillaume I d'Hieme (?) comte d’Hiémois, comte d’Eu et de Brionne and Lesceline de Tourville, circa 1058
; van de Pas cites: ES III/4 729A, says m. 1057/59.1,2,10,11,12,13,5,6
Adélaide/Aelis/Adelais de Soissons Cts de Troyes et de Soissons died in 1105; Med Lands says d. 1105; Racines et Histoire (Comtes d'Eu) says d. 31/03 ou 06/04/1079 (ou 18/09/1066); racines et Histoire (Soissons) says d. 1108; Geneagraphie says d. 31 Mar 1079.2,6,3,7
      ; Per Racines et Histoire (Comtes d’Eu): “Guillaume «Busac» d’Eu ° avant 1025 + ~1076 comte d’Eu, Hiémois, Soissons et Troyes
ép.1058 Adélaïde de Soissons (alias Aélis de Troyes) * ° ~1042 + 31/03 ou 06/04/1079 (ou 18/09/1066) comtesse de Troyes et de Soissons (citée charte 1049)”


Per Racines et Histoire (Soissons): “Adela de Soissons + 1105 comtesse de Soissons
ép. Guillaume II de Normandie dit «Busac», comte d’Eu + 1076 rebelle en Normandie, en exil en France où il est marié et investi du comté de Soissons par Henri 1er (fils de Guillaume comte d’Hiémois et d’Eu, et de Lesceline de Harcourt) ”.4,3

; Per Genealogy.EU (Normandy): “E1. William, Cte d'Eu, Exemes, Soissons et Troyes, +after 1076; m.1058 Aelis, Cts de Troyes et de Soissons (+18.9.1066)”.14 EDV27. Adélaide/Aelis/Adelais de Soissons Cts de Troyes et de Soissons was also known as Adélaïde/Ada de Soissons.15,4

; Per Med Lands:
     "[ADELA (-[1105]). Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Willelmus cognomento Busacius” plotted rebellion against Guillaume II Duke of Normandy, who besieged “castrum Oucis” and forced Guillaume into exile with Henri I King of France, who granted him “comitatum Suessionis...cum quadam nobili coniuge”[669]. This source does not link the grant of the county of Soissons to Guillaume’s marriage to the heiress of the county, nor does the wording of the passage even imply that connection although such a link is the most obvious explanation for the grant. No other primary source has yet been identified which confirms her parentage and marriage. If Guillaume’s wife was the heiress of Soissons, the chronology suggests that she could have been the sister of Comte Guy [II], although she could also have been a more remote relation. She is named Adela in secondary sources but no primary source has been identified which confirms that this name is correct.
     "m GUILLAUME "Busac" d'Eu, son of GUILLAUME Comte d'Hiémois et d'Eu [Normandy] & his wife Lesceline de Tourville (-[1076]).]"
Med Lands cites:
[669] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, XX, p. 277.6

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 76, d'EU 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
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  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d'Eu, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Eu.pdf
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adélaide de Soissons: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00636363&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#AdelaSoissonsdied1105. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  7. [S4743] Geneagraphie - Families all over the world (Website), online <http://geneagraphie.com/>, Adelaide de Soissons: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I390239&tree=1. Hereinafter cited as Geneagraphie.
  8. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I33240
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  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume Bussac: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120726&tree=LEO
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  13. [S4743] Geneagraphie, online http://geneagraphie.com/, Comte Guillaume de Soissons, "Busac": https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I113747&tree=1
  14. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
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Renaud I de Bar comte de Soissons1,2,3

M, #14776, b. circa 987, d. 1057
FatherNocher II (?) Comte de Bar-sur-Aube4,2 b. c 952, d. a 1019
MotherAdelise/Aelis (?) de Soissons2,4 b. c 980
ReferenceEDV28
Last Edited5 Nov 2020
     Renaud I de Bar comte de Soissons married Adelaide (?) de Roucy.5
Renaud I de Bar comte de Soissons was born circa 987; Racines et Histoire says v. ca 0987; Med Lands says b. 985/992.6,7
Renaud I de Bar comte de Soissons died in 1057; van de Pas cites: ES III/4 729A.4,7,2
     EDV-28.

; Per van de Pas email [2004]:
     "I think another ES Tafel may clean up this problem, at least a little :-(
     "ES III/4 729A This Tafel covers the Counts of Bar-sur-Aube and Soissons In the fourth generations Nocher II Count of Bar-sur-Aube "could be" the father of Renaud I Count of Soissons, he died 1057, no wife is displayed for Renaud I and he has two children :
     "1.Guy II Count of Soissons also dies in 1057 not married, no children
     "2.Adele Countes of Soissons (died probably 1105) married in 1057/1059 Guillaume II Bussac, Count d'Eu, and Count of Soissons.

     "No doubt, there are the Renaud I, Adele and William/Guillaume referred to.
     "Underneath Adele and Guillaume is a reference to ES VII Tafel 15. The reduced version of that tafel is:
     "Richard I, Duke of Normandy had an unnamed mistress and by her was father of
          "Guillaume I Count d'Jiemois and Eu, married Lesceline. they are parents of:
               "Guillaume II Bussac, Count d'Eu, Count of Soissons, married Adele Countess of Soissons. They had five children:
               "1. Renaud II, Count of Soissons 1082/1084 not married
               "2. Jean Count of Soissons, married his son married but died childless
               "3. Manasses, Bishop of Cambrai and Soissons
               "4. (Ramentrudis) who married Ives de Nesle
               "5.daughter

     "2.Jean was the father of Renaud III, Count of Soissons, who in 1141 becomes a monk and passes the County of Soissons to Ives II de Nesle.
     "To find out who Ives II is we go to same ES Tafel 16:
     "Ives de Nesle, married (Ramentrudis) de Soissons, parents of"
     "Radulf, Seigneur de Nesle 1103/1125 married Rainarde, parents of:
          "1.Ives II de Nesle who married Yolande of Hainault, inherited Soissons died childless
     "3. Radulf de Nesle Viscount of Brugge, his first and then third son becomes Count of Soissons
     "This part of the genealogy can be found on my website http://www.genealogics.org with the appropriate secondary sources
references. Sadly, it is impossible for me to record the sources used in ES
:-( Hope this helps.
Best wshes, Leo van de Pas Canberra, Australia
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: Husband(s) of Alice de Roucy?
>> "According to Weiss (151-22) and ES III:676, Alice de Roucy, daughter of Ebles I, Count de Roucy (d. 11 May 1033) & Beatrix of Hainault married Hildouin IV, Count of Montdidier.
>> According to other (unsourced) information, she married Renaud I, Count of Soissons (d. 1057), parents of Aelis de Soissons who married William, Count of Troyes and of Eu...."
>> Well the Ancestral File agrees with Weiss and is probably derivative from that work. Interestingly it gives both Alice and Hildouin dying in 1063, but no deathplace or burial to indicate what source this might be from.
>> Will.4 He was Per Med Lands:
     "[RENAUD de Soissons ([985/92]-early 1057). The Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of St Simon de Valois, based on an undated manuscript of the abbey of Saint-Claude, records that "Nocherius seu Nocherus, Achardi filius" married in 992 "Alaidem comitissam Suessionensem, filiam comitis Gilberti, viduam Guidonis Viromanduensis, et matrem Rainaudi comitis Suessionensem"[656]. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[657], he was Renaud, possible son of Nocher Comte de Bar-sur-Aube & his wife Adelisa Ctss de Soissons. This is consistent with the same source stating that Nocher’s wife was the daughter, not the widow, of Guy Comte de Soissons, but the primary source (if any) on which the information is based has not been identified. As Renaud named his son Guy, it appears more likely that the Acta Sanctorum version is correct. Comte de Soissons. Henri I King of France donated the churches in "villa…Carcrisia…Corciaci atque…Colomellæ…Colisiaci…Bruelii atque…Nantoilo" to Notre-Dame de Soissons by charter dated 18 May 1057, which records that "mortuis eodem anno Rainaldo comite et eius filio Vuidone et obsessa turre Suession. ab Henrico rege"[658].
     "m ([after Feb 1031]) ---. The name of Renaud's wife is not known. Two sources may provide some indication of the family connections of Renaud’s wife. Firstly, the Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis which names "comes Suessionis et comes de Dommartin et comes de Ronaco et Manasses cui agnomen Calva-asina" as brothers ("fratres") of "Helduino comiti de Ramerut", naming "Rainaldum comitem Suessionis et Iohannem, qui fratri successit in comitatum, et Manassem Suessionensem episcopum et filias" as the children of "supradictus comes Suessionis Guilermus…frater iam dicti Helduini"[659]. It is clear from other sources that Guillaume Comte de Soissons descended from the family of the dukes of Normandy. The only way in which the Genealogiæ could make sense is if "fratres" can be interpreted as including brothers-in-law (an interpretation which has been observed and confirmed as correct in other cases). If that is correct, it is possible that Renaud’s wife had married firstly, as his second wife, Hilduin [III] Seigneur de Ramerupt. If this is correct, Renaud would have married after 1032, the last date when Hilduin [II] is recorded. This timing appears to fit with the general chronology of the Soissons family, although if it is correct it is likely that Hilduin’s widow would have been Renaud’s second wife. Secondly, one version of the Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium (Continuatio) names “Manasses Remensium archiepiscopus, electi Manassæ avunculus”[660], the latter referring to Manassès Bishop of Cambrai and later Bishop of Cambrai, who was Renaud’s grandson, and the former to Manassès Archbishop of Reims who was the son of Manassès “le Chauve” Vidame de Reims (see the document CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY). It appears unlikely that the family connection was through the Normandy family of Renaud’s son-in-law Guillaume “Busac” d’Eu. On the other hand, the connection may have been through the previous generation, asssuming that “avunculus” in the source in question can be interpreted loosely. This second hypothesis would also provide an explanation for the introduction of the name Manassès into the family of the comtes de Soissons. If this hypothesis is correct, Renaud’s wife was ---, niece of Guy Archbishop of Reims, daughter of ---"
Med Lands cites:
[656] Acta Sanctorum, September VIII, p. 720.
[657] ES III 729 A.
[658] Germain (1675), Preuves, p. 436.
[659] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 11 and 12, MGH SS XIII, p. 254.
[660] Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium Continuatio, Gesta Pontificum abbreviata per canonicum Cameracensem, 8, MGH SS VII, p. 505.7
Renaud I de Bar comte de Soissons was also known as Renaud I Count de Soissons.

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 76, d'EU 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Soissons, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Soissons.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d'Eu, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Eu.pdf
  4. [S1841] Leo van de Pas, "van de Pas email 24 Nov 2004 "Re: Husband(s) of Alice de Roucy?"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 24 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "van de Pas email 24 Nov 2004."
  5. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I33240
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d'Eu, p. 2.
  7. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#RenaudISoissonsdied1057B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adélaide de Soissons: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00636363&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  9. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#AdelaSoissonsdied1105
  10. [S4743] Geneagraphie - Families all over the world (Website), online <http://geneagraphie.com/>, Adelaide de Soissons: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I390239&tree=1. Hereinafter cited as Geneagraphie.

Henry d'Eu1

M, #14777
FatherJohn I (?) Count d'Eu, Lord Hastings1 b. c 1130, d. 26 Jun 1170
MotherAlice (Adelise, Alix, Adélaïde Helissende) d'Aubigny dame de Smergate1 b. bt 1140 - 1141, d. 11 Sep 1188
Last Edited10 Nov 2001

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 77, d'EU 5:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

John (?)1

M, #14778
FatherJohn I (?) Count d'Eu, Lord Hastings1 b. c 1130, d. 26 Jun 1170
MotherAlice (Adelise, Alix, Adélaïde Helissende) d'Aubigny dame de Smergate1 b. bt 1140 - 1141, d. 11 Sep 1188
Last Edited7 Mar 2004

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 78, d'EU 5:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Robert (?)1

M, #14779
FatherJohn I (?) Count d'Eu, Lord Hastings1 b. c 1130, d. 26 Jun 1170
MotherAlice (Adelise, Alix, Adélaïde Helissende) d'Aubigny dame de Smergate1 b. bt 1140 - 1141, d. 11 Sep 1188
Last Edited9 Mar 2004

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 78, d'EU 5:iv. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Edward "the Sheriff" d'Evreux of Salisbury1,2

M, #14780, b. before 1060, d. after 1087
FatherWalter d'Evreux Count of Rosmar2 b. c 1034
ReferenceGAV25 EDV24
Last Edited25 May 2009
     Edward "the Sheriff" d'Evreux of Salisbury married Matilda (?)3
Edward "the Sheriff" d'Evreux of Salisbury was born before 1060.1
Edward "the Sheriff" d'Evreux of Salisbury died after 1087.1
     GAV-25 EDV-24.

; "Walter de Evereux of Rosmar, in Normandy, who obtained, with other consierable grants, the lordships of Salisbury and Ambresbury, which, having devised his Norman possessions and earldom to Walter, his eldest son, he bequeathed to his younger son, Edward de Evereux, who was thenceforward designated "of Salisbury". This Edward was subsequently sheriff of Wiltshire, and, at the time of the general survey, possessed lordships in the counties of Dorset, Somerset, Surrey, Hants, Middlesex, Hereford, Buckingham, and Wilts. ... This Edward was standard-bearer at the battle of Brennevill, in Normandy, bought 20th Henry I, King Henry being present, and distinguished himself by his singular skill and valour. He left at his decease, a dau.,
Maude, wife of Humphrey de Bohun, and a son and heir,
Walter de Evereux."2

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 78, d'EVEREUX 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), D'Evereux - Earls of Salisbury, p. 167. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bohun.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Maud d'Evreux of Salisbury1,2,3

F, #14781
FatherEdward "the Sheriff" d'Evreux of Salisbury3 b. b 1060, d. a 1087
MotherMatilda (?)3
ReferenceGAV25 EDV25
Last Edited16 Dec 2020

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 78, d'EVEREUX 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), D'Evereux - Earls of Salisbury, p. 167. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bohun.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 78, d'EVEREUX 1:ii.
  5. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's Dromant, Abeyant, Forgeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 57.
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille de Bohun, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bohun.pdf
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Humphrey de Bohun: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139100&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Humphrey II (Onfroi) «Le Grand» de Bohun Lord Bohun, seigneur de Tatterford1,2

M, #14782, b. 1087, d. 1129
FatherHumphrey I (Onfroi) «Le Barbu» de Bohun seigneur de Saint-André et de Saint-Georges de Bohon, Lord Bohun of Tatterford (Norfolk)3,2 d. bt 1080 - 1093
ReferenceGAV25 EDV25
Last Edited16 Dec 2020
     Humphrey II (Onfroi) «Le Grand» de Bohun Lord Bohun, seigneur de Tatterford married Maud d'Evreux of Salisbury, daughter of Edward "the Sheriff" d'Evreux of Salisbury and Matilda (?).1,2
Humphrey II (Onfroi) «Le Grand» de Bohun Lord Bohun, seigneur de Tatterford was born in 1087 at Herefordshire, England.2
Humphrey II (Onfroi) «Le Grand» de Bohun Lord Bohun, seigneur de Tatterford died in 1129.2
     GAV-25 EDV-25.

; "Humphrey de Bohun, surnamed the Great, who by command of King William Rufus m. Maud, dau. of Edward de Saresbury [sic] (progenitor of the ancient Earls of Salisbury), by whom he acquired large estates in the co. of Wilts, and had issue, Maud, and his successor, Humphrey..."

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 78, d'EVEREUX 1:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bohun.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dromant, Abeyant, Forgeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 57. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Humphrey de Bohun: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139100&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille de Bohun, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bohun.pdf

William Fitz Edward1,2

M, #14783
FatherWalter Fitz Edward d'Evreux of Salisbury2 d. 1147
MotherSybil de Chaworth2
Last Edited27 Aug 2001

Citations

  1. No issue.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 78-79, d'EVEREUX 2:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Walter Fitz Edward1,2

M, #14784
FatherWalter Fitz Edward d'Evreux of Salisbury2 d. 1147
MotherSybil de Chaworth2
Last Edited27 Aug 2001

Citations

  1. A canon of Bradenstoke.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 78-79, d'EVEREUX 2:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

William Paynell of Hambye1,2

M, #14785, d. June 1184
FatherFulk I Paynell Hambye and Bréhal, Normandy and Drax, Yorkshire2,3 d. 1182
MotherLesceline de Subligny Dame du Grippon3,2 d. c 1198
Last Edited10 Aug 2020
     William Paynell of Hambye married Eleanor (Eléonore, Aliénor) de Vitré Countess of Salisbury, daughter of Robert III de Vitre Sire de Vitré and Emma de Dinan, before 1168
;
Her 1st husband; his 2nd wife.1,4,5,2,6,7,8
William Paynell of Hambye died in June 1184.1,2
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "ELEONORE de Vitré (-20 Jul [1232/33]). “Willielmus comes Sarum” donated property to Bradenstoke priory, for the souls of “Alianoræ de Viterio comitissæ meæ…Patricii patris mei et Elæ matris meæ et Patricii fratris mei”, by undated charter, witnessed by “…Waltero filio meo…”[938]. The necrology of Lyre monastery records the death "20 Jul" of "Alienor comitissa Salesberiensis"[939].
     "m firstly (before 1168) WILLIAM Paynell of Hambye, son of FULK [I] Paynell of Hambye & his wife Lesceline de Subligny (-Jun 1184).
     "m secondly GILBERT Crispin Seigneur de Tillières, son of --- (-Palestine 1190).
     "m thirdly WILLIAM FitzPatrick Earl of Salisbury, son of PATRICK FitzWalter Earl of Salisbury & his second wife Ela de Ponthieu (-[Normandy] 1196, bur Bradenstoke).
     "m fourthly GILBERT de Malesmains, son of ---."
Med Lands cites:
[938] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Bradenstoke Priory, Wiltshire, III, p. 338.
[939] RHGF, Tome XXIII, Ex Obituario Lirensis monasterii, p. 473.7
William Paynell of Hambye was also known as Guillaume Paynel d'Hambye.9

Reference: Genealogics cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 11:378.8

; Per Med Lands:
     "WILLIAM Paynell (-Jun 1184). “Fulcodius Paganellus” donated property to Tykford Priory by undated charter, witnessed by “Gervasius Paganellus et uxor eius comitissa Isabella et Robertus Paganellus eorum filius, et Willielmus Paganellus prædicti Fulcodii frater…”[157]. “Gervasius Paganellus” donated property to Tykford Priory, with the consent of “uxoris meæ Isabellæ comitissæ de Norhamton”, by charter dated 1187 which names “Fulcodius Paganellus avus meus et Radulfus Paganellus pater meus”, witnessed by “Simone comite Northamptoniæ, Isabella comitissa matre eius…Fulcone Paganello, Wilielmo fratre eius…Wilielmo Paganello et Bernardo filio eius…”[158].
     "m as her first husband, ELEONORE de Vitré, daughter of ROBERT de Vitré & his wife Emma de Dinan (-20 Jul [1232/33]). She married secondly Gilbert Crispin Seigneur de Tillières. She married thirdly William FitzPatrick Earl of Salisbury. She married fourthly Gilbert de Malesmains. "
Med Lands cites:
[157] Dugdale Monasticon V, Tykford Priory, Buckinghamshire, IV, p. 204.
[158] Dugdale Monasticon V, Tykford Priory, Buckinghamshire, II, p. 203.2

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 79, d'EVEREUX 4. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#WilliamPaynelldied1184. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#_Toc38177813
  4. [S1656] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 18 June 2004: "Re: CP - ES correction needed?"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 18 June 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 18 June 2004."
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs du Bec-Crespin, Crispin, Tillières, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Crespin.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleanor de Vitré: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140299&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/brittnpr.htm#EleonoreVitredied1232
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Paynel: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175563&tree=LEO
  9. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Crespin.pdf, p. 3.

Gui IV Mauvoisin seigneur de rosny1

M, #14786, d. between 21 July 1252 and 1253
Last Edited12 Feb 2010
     Gui IV Mauvoisin seigneur de rosny married Juliana/Julienne de Tillières dame de Tillières, daughter of Gilbert V Crespin de Tillières seigneur de Tillières, Damville et Bourth and Eleanor (Eléonore, Aliénor) de Vitré Countess of Salisbury,
; her 2nd husband.1
Gui IV Mauvoisin seigneur de rosny died between 21 July 1252 and 1253.1

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Crespin.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Gilbert de Malesmains1

M, #14787
Last Edited10 Aug 2020
     Gilbert de Malesmains married Eleanor (Eléonore, Aliénor) de Vitré Countess of Salisbury, daughter of Robert III de Vitre Sire de Vitré and Emma de Dinan, after 1196
;
Her 4th husband; his 2nd wife.1,2,3,4,5
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "ELEONORE de Vitré (-20 Jul [1232/33]). “Willielmus comes Sarum” donated property to Bradenstoke priory, for the souls of “Alianoræ de Viterio comitissæ meæ…Patricii patris mei et Elæ matris meæ et Patricii fratris mei”, by undated charter, witnessed by “…Waltero filio meo…”[938]. The necrology of Lyre monastery records the death "20 Jul" of "Alienor comitissa Salesberiensis"[939].
     "m firstly (before 1168) WILLIAM Paynell of Hambye, son of FULK [I] Paynell of Hambye & his wife Lesceline de Subligny (-Jun 1184).
     "m secondly GILBERT Crispin Seigneur de Tillières, son of --- (-Palestine 1190).
     "m thirdly WILLIAM FitzPatrick Earl of Salisbury, son of PATRICK FitzWalter Earl of Salisbury & his second wife Ela de Ponthieu (-[Normandy] 1196, bur Bradenstoke).
     "m fourthly GILBERT de Malesmains, son of ---."
Med Lands cites:
[938] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Bradenstoke Priory, Wiltshire, III, p. 338.
[939] RHGF, Tome XXIII, Ex Obituario Lirensis monasterii, p. 473.4


Reference: Genealogics cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 11:378.5

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 79, d'EVEREUX 4. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1656] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 18 June 2004: "Re: CP - ES correction needed?"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 18 June 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 18 June 2004."
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleanor de Vitré: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140299&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/brittnpr.htm#EleonoreVitredied1232. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gilbert de Malesmains: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175565&tree=LEO

Gauthier/Walter III de Mantes Comte de Mantes, Comte d'Amiens et du Vexin1,2,3,4,5

M, #14788, b. between 29 March 1030 and 10 April 1031, d. 1063
FatherDreux (Drogo, Drew, Walter) de Mantes Comte de Mantes et d'Amiens1,4,3,6,7,5 b. bt 990 - 1000, d. 1 Jul 1035
MotherGodgifu/Goda (?) of Wessex1,3,4,8,9,5 b. bt 1004 - 1014, d. b 1049
Last Edited16 Apr 2020
     Gauthier/Walter III de Mantes Comte de Mantes, Comte d'Amiens et du Vexin married Biota/Berthe (?) du Maine, daughter of Heribert I "Eveille-Chien" (?) Comte du Maine.1,3,4,10,5,11
Gauthier/Walter III de Mantes Comte de Mantes, Comte d'Amiens et du Vexin was born between 29 March 1030 and 10 April 1031.5
Gauthier/Walter III de Mantes Comte de Mantes, Comte d'Amiens et du Vexin died in 1063 at Falaise, France (now); poisoned; Genealogy.EU (Cerdic 2 page) says d. after 1063; Med lands says poisoned 2 Aug 1063.1,4,3,5
      ; Per Camp [1998:34]: "Walter, count of the French Vexin, and his wife Biota of Maine, were captured by William of Normandy in his Maine campaign and taken to Falaise, where they were promptly poisoned by their genial host; for, as G.H. White said, the Conqueror was a retail, as well as a wholesale, butcher]."12



; Per Med Lands:
     "GAUTHIER [III] de Mantes (before [29 Mar 1030/10 Apr 1031]-poisoned Falaise [2 Aug] 1063). His parentage is given by Orderic Vitalis, who lists him after his brother Raoul[431]. "Drogo comes" agreed to donate property to Jumièges by charter dated to [29 Mar 1030/10 Apr 1031] subscribed by "Walterii filius eius"[432]. "Droco comes Ambianensium" donated property to "Sancti Petri Gismoensis" by undated charter, signed by "Droconis comitis, Eotde comitissæ, Falconis fratris comitis, Rodulfi filiii comitis, Gualterii alterius filii…"[433]. He succeeded his father in 1035 as Comte de Mantes. "Comes Walterius" confirmed a donation of property, held by "pater meus Droco comes", to "cœnobii sancti Petri Carnotensis" by charter dated Feb 1055, witnessed by "Teduinus vicecomes Mellentis castri, Gualo vicecomes castri Calidi Montis…"[434]. "Comes Gualterius" donated property to Chartres Saint-Père by charter dated 22 Jan 1060 which names "pater meus Drogo comes"[435]. He claimed the county of Maine, by right of his wife, after the death in Mar 1062 of her nephew Héribert [II] Comte du Maine and took possession: Orderic Vitalis records that “Walterius Pontesiensium comes filius Drogonis comitis” (who had accompanied “Rodberto seniore Normannorum duce in Jerusalem”) married “Biotam Hugonis Cenomannensium comitis filiam...amita [Herberti juvenis Cenomanensium comitis]” and claimed “totum comitatum Cenomannensem” and occupied a part, but that “prædictus comes Walterius et Biota conjux eius” died “(ut ferunt) lethali veneno” while Guillaume II Duke of Normandy was attacking the rebels[436]. The necrology of Saint-Père-en-Vallée records the death "IV Non Aug" of "Gualterius comes"[437], which may refer to Comte Gauthier [III].
     "m BIOTE du Maine, daughter of HERIBERT [I] "Eveille-Chien" Comte du Maine & his wife --- (-poisoned Falaise 1063). Guillaume de Poitiers names "la sœur de Hugues" as wife of "Gautier comte de Mantes", when recording the latter's claim to Maine[438]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Walterius Pontesiensium comes filius Drogonis comitis” (who had accompanied “Rodberto seniore Normannorum duce in Jerusalem”) married “Biotam Hugonis Cenomannensium comitis filiam...amita [Herberti juvenis Cenomanensium comitis]” and claimed “totum comitatum Cenomannensem” and occupied a part, but that “prædictus comes Walterius et Biota conjux eius” died “(ut ferunt) lethali veneno” while Guillaume II Duke of Normandy was attacking the rebels[439]."
Med Lands cites:
[431] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. IV, Book VII, p. 77.
[432] Jumièges, Tome I, 14, p. 46.
[433] Chartres Saint-Père I, Liber Septimus, Cap. XLVI, p. 173.
[434] Chartres Saint-Père I, Liber Septimus, Cap. LXXIV, p. 199.
[435] Chartres Saint-Père, II, Codex Diplomaticus Pars Tertia ex Schedis D. Muley, 4, p. 625.
[436] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, VIII, p. 102.
[437] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Saint-Père-enVallée, p. 193.
[438] William of Poitiers, p. 362.
[439] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, VIII, p. 102.5


Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: IV 657.13

Family

Biota/Berthe (?) du Maine b. bt 1025 - 1035, d. 2 Aug 1063

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 80, de EWYAS 1:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York, NY: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), p. 482 (Chart 32). Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Cerdic 2 page (The House of Cerdic): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/cerdic2.html
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gautier III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00361575&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#GautierIIIMantesdied1064. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfraamp.htm#DrogoMantesdied1035
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dreux: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00030552&tree=LEO
  8. [S1842] Dorothy Dunnett, King Hereafter (New York: Vintage Books (Random House), 1982 (Oct. 1998)), Appendix chart: Kings of Scotland (Alba) and Earls of Northumberland (England). Hereinafter cited as Dunnett (1982) King Hereafter.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Godgifu of Wessex: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00012362&tree=LEO
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Biote/Berthe du Maine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020815&tree=LEO
  11. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MAINE.htm#BioteMGautierIIIAmiensdied1063
  12. [S1770] Anthony J. Camp, My Ancestors Came with the Conqueror: Those Who Did, and Some of Those Who Probably Did Not (Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1998), p. 34. Hereinafter cited as Camp [1998] My Ancestors Came with the Conqueror.
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gautier III: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00361575&tree=LEO

Biota/Berthe (?) du Maine1,2

F, #14789, b. between 1025 and 1035, d. 2 August 1063
FatherHeribert I "Eveille-Chien" (?) Comte du Maine1,3,2,4,5,6,7 b. c 985, d. 13 Apr 1036
Last Edited17 Nov 2020
     Biota/Berthe (?) du Maine married Gauthier/Walter III de Mantes Comte de Mantes, Comte d'Amiens et du Vexin, son of Dreux (Drogo, Drew, Walter) de Mantes Comte de Mantes et d'Amiens and Godgifu/Goda (?) of Wessex.1,3,8,2,9,4
Biota/Berthe (?) du Maine was born between 1025 and 1035.4
Biota/Berthe (?) du Maine died on 2 August 1063.4
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "BIOTE du Maine ([1025/35]-poisoned Falaise 1063). Guillaume de Poitiers names "la sœur de Hugues" as wife of "Gautier comte de Mantes"[172]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Walterius Pontesiensium comes filius Drogonis comitis” (who had accompanied “Rodberto seniore Normannorum duce in Jerusalem”) married “Biotam Hugonis Cenomannensium comitis filiam...amita [Herberti juvenis Cenomanensium comitis]” and claimed “totum comitatum Cenomannensem” and occupied a part, but that “prædictus comes Walterius et Biota conjux eius” died “(ut ferunt) lethali veneno” while Guillaume II Duke of Normandy was attacking the rebels[173].
     "m GAUTHIER [III] Comte de Mantes, son of DREUX [Drogo] Comte de Mantes & his wife Godgifu [Goda] of England (before [29 Mar 1030/10 Apr 1031]-poisoned Falaise [2 Aug] 1063). Orderic Vitalis records that “Walterius Pontesiensium comes filius Drogonis comitis” (who had accompanied “Rodberto seniore Normannorum duce in Jerusalem”) married “Biotam Hugonis Cenomannensium comitis filiam...amita [Herberti juvenis Cenomanensium comitis]” and claimed “totum comitatum Cenomannensem” and occupied a part, but that “prædictus comes Walterius et Biota conjux eius” died “(ut ferunt) lethali veneno” while Guillaume II Duke of Normandy was attacking the rebels[174]. "
Med Lands cites:
[172] William of Poitiers, p. 362.
[173] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, VIII, p. 102.
[174] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, VIII, p. 102.4

Family

Gauthier/Walter III de Mantes Comte de Mantes, Comte d'Amiens et du Vexin b. bt 29 Mar 1030 - 10 Apr 1031, d. 1063

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 80, de EWYAS 1:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Biote/Berthe du Maine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020815&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Cerdic 2 page (The House of Cerdic): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/cerdic2.html
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MAINE.htm#BioteMGautierIIIAmiensdied1063. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Herbert I Eveille-Chien: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177505&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MAINE.htm#HerbertIMainedied1032B
  7. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes & vicomtes du Maine, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Maine.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gautier III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00361575&tree=LEO
  9. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#GautierIIIMantesdied1064

Heribert I "Eveille-Chien" (?) Comte du Maine1,2,3,4,5,6,7

M, #14790, b. circa 985, d. 13 April 1036
FatherHugues III (?) Comte de Maine4,5,6,7,8,9 b. bt 960 - 975, d. bt 3 Sep 1014 - 25 Oct 1015
ReferenceGAV29
Last Edited28 Nov 2020
     Heribert I "Eveille-Chien" (?) Comte du Maine was born circa 985.4
Heribert I "Eveille-Chien" (?) Comte du Maine died on 13 April 1036 at Le Mans, Departement de la Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France (now); per Henry Project: [quote]15 February 1032×5. [end quote]; Find a Grave says d. 13 Apr 1035.10,11,4
Heribert I "Eveille-Chien" (?) Comte du Maine was buried after 13 April 1036 at Cathedrale St-Julien du Mans, Le Mans, Departement de la Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France (now); From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     unknown, Le Mans, Departement de la Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France
     DEATH     13 Apr 1035, Le Mans, Departement de la Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France
     Herbert I (died 13 April 1035), called Wakedog (from French Eveille-chien, Latinized as Evigilans Canis), was the count of Maine from 1017 until his death. He had a turbulent career with an early victory that may have contributed to his later decline.
     Family Members
     Parents
      Hugues III du Maine unknown–1015
     Children
      Hugues IV du Maine unknown–1051
      Paula du Maine unknown–1095
     BURIAL     Cathedrale St-Julien du Mans, Le Mans, Departement de la Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France
     Created by: Memerizion
     Added: 30 May 2015
     Find A Grave Memorial 147183582.12
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "HERIBERT [I] "Evigilans Canis/Eveille-chien" du Maine, son of HUGUES [III] Comte du Maine & his wife --- ([990/1000]-15 Feb [1032/35]). “Widdo Lononis filius” donated “Gaudiacus” to Saint-Pierre de la Couture, with the consent of “dominis meis Hugone atque Herberto comitibus et vice comite Radulpho eiusque filii” by undated charter dated to [1000/15][131]. He succeeded his father in [1014/15] as Comte du Maine. The Gesta Ambaziensium names "comes pernimium iuvenis Herbertus cognomento Evigilans Canem" as ruler of "Cenomannicum consulatum" during the life of Lizois de Basauges (see the document ANJOU)[132], which if correct suggests that Héribert must have been born during the later part of 10th century (which is consistent with the birth date range attributed to his son Hugues [IV], see below). The Actus pontificum Cenomannis names "Herberto, comite Cenomanensi" during the bishopric of "Avesgaudi" (from [997] to [1036]) and records disputes between the two[133]. Orderic Vitalis records that "Herbertus Cenommanorum comes ex prosapia (ut fertur) Caroli Magni originem", known as "Evigilans-Canem" because of his merit, after the death of “Hugonis patris sui”, whom “Fulco senior” [Foulques III Comte d´Anjou] had subjugated, attacked Anjou[134]. "Herbertus Evigilans canem cognomine" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Pierre-de-la-Cour du Mans after defeating "Odone Campaniensi…comite" by charter dated Jul 1016[135], which shows that Héribert must have reversed his father's policy of support for Eudes Comte de Blois (see above). The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes records that Foulques "Nerra" Comte d'Anjou captured "Arbertum, Cenomannis comitem" at Saintes, "prima quadregismæ dominica post cœnam nocte" (7/8 Mar) according to a later passage, in 1029 according to the editor of the version consulted[136]. The Martyrologe de la Couture records the death "XV Kal Mar" of "Herbertus comes Cenom"[137].
     "m --- (-after 8 Mar [1029]). The name of Héribert's wife is not known. The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes records that the wife of Foulques "Nerra" Comte d'Anjou attempted to capture "uxorem Arberti" on the same day her husband was captured but that she was able to escape[138]."
Med Lands cites:
[131] Couture Saint-Pierre, IV, p. 7, and Latouche (1910), 16, p. 141.
[132] Chroniques d'Anjou Tome I, Gesta Ambaziensium Dominorum, p. 161.
[133] Actus pontificum Cenomannis, p. 355.
[134] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber IV, XII, p. 252.
[135] Le Mans Saint-Pierre-de-la-Cour IV, p. 5.
[136] Adémar de Chabannes 64, pp. 189 and 206.
[137] Martyrologe de la Couture, Bibl. du Mans, ms. 238, fol. 5, quoted in Latouche (1910), p. 26 footnote 4.
[138] Adémar de Chabannes 64, p. 189.7


; Per Genealogics:
     "Herbert was born about 985, the son of Hugues III, comte de Maine. He was count of Maine from 1014 to his death. By a wife whose name is not recorded, Herbert had four children of whom Hugues IV, Garsende and Paule would have progeny.
     "His epithet 'Eveille-Chien' may refer to someone who gets up early to go hunting with his pack of dogs. According to Orderic Vitalis, he acquired his epithet because of the continuing need to resist the devastations caused by his Angevin neighbours.
     "His father, allied with the count of Blois, had been forced in 996 to accept the suzerainty of Foulques III 'Nerra', comte d'Anjou, who had a fearsome record of violence and cruelty. Upon Herbert's accession to the county, Foulques demanded his support in his fight against Eudes II, comte de Blois, Chartres, Troyes et Champagne. The contingent that Herbert led to the Battle of Pontlevoy on 6 July 1016, was decisive for Foulques' victory over Eudes.
     "The weakening of royal power allowed Herbert increased personal power, and he began to strike his own currency. He gave land to his supporters, on which he authorised them to construct castles. Having built up Maine's defences, he turned to the counts of Blois and Rennes to fight against the count of Anjou and the king of France.
     "As Avesgaud, bishop of Le Mans, was a supporter of Anjou, the conflict quickly became local and Avesgaud, who had to take refuge at La Ferté-Bernard, pronounced an interdict of excommunication on the diocese of Le Mans. In 1025 during a meeting at Saintes, Herbert was captured by Foulques III 'Nerra' and forced to abandon his aspirations for independence.
     "Herbert died on 13 April 1036, and was succeeded by Hugues IV. However his grandson Herbert II, son of Hugues IV who died in 1051, died in 1062 without progeny."13

; This is the same person as ”Herbert I, Count of Maine” at Wikipedia and as ”Herbert Ier du Maine” at Wikipédia (FR).14,15

; Per Racines et Histoire (Maine): “Herbert 1er «Éveille-Chien» («Evigilans Canis») ° ~984 + 15/02/1032/35 (ou 13/04/1036 ?) comte du Maine (1014/15-1035), allié des Angevins, X contre Eudes II de Blois, arrêté et emprisonné 2 ans à Saintes par Foulques d’Anjou (1025), libéré par la pression armée d’Alain III, comte de Bretagne, perd son influence sur la Mayenne (dépendante de l’Anjou), X les Bellême (donation 07/1016 à Saint-Pierre-de-La-Cour du Mans après sa victoire sur Eudes de Blois-Champagne)
     ép. 1) ?
     ép. 2) Paula de Preuilly (fille de Gausbert, seigneur de Preuilly, et d’Adèle) ”.6

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 692.4 GAV-29.

; Per The Henry Project: [quote]MALE Herbert I "Éveille-Chien" ("Wake-Dog") (Herbertus Evigilans Canem)
Count of Maine, 1014×5-1032×5.
     "Having evidently succeeded his father a year or two earlier, Herbert "Wake-Dog" first appears in action at the Battle of Pontlevoy on 6 July 1016, in alliance with Foulques III Nerra of Anjou against Eudes II of Blois [Gesta consulum Andegavorum, Marchegay & Salmon (1856), 107-8; Hist. Saint-Florent de Saumur, Marchegay & Mabille (1869), 274; Halphen (1906), 33-5]. On the night of 7×8 March 1025, Herbert (Arbertus Cenomannis comitis) was treacherously captured by Foulques III Nerra, who had promised him the city of Saintes, only being released two years later, after he had sworn homage to Foulques [Adémar Chab., iii, 64 (p. 189); Annales de Vendôme, s.a. 1027, Halphen (1903), 61; Halphen (1906), 68-9]. Herbert was still living in 1032×5, when he ratified a donation of Yves de Bellême, bishop of Sées [Latouche, 143 (#22)]. On his death, he was succeeded by his young son Hugues IV under the tutelage of Herbert's uncle Herbert Bacon, who was the de facto count during the early years of Hugues IV.
     "Date of Birth: Unknown.
     "Place of Birth: Unknown.
     "Date of Death: 15 February 1032×5. The date of 15 February comes from the martyrology of Couture ["15 kalendas marcii obierunt Herbertus, comes Cenom[anensis]..." Latouche (1910), 26, n. 4, who notes that this cannot be a reference to Herbert II, who died on a 6 March]. Herbert was still alive at the time of a charter which can be dated 1032×5 (see above), and he was deceased before Gervais de Château-du-Loir became bishop of Le Mans (which occurred by 17 December 1035) [Latouche (1910), 26, n. 4].
     "Place of Death: Unknown.
     "Father: Hugues III, d. 1014×5, count of Maine. The relationship between Hugues III and Herbert I is stated by an early interpolation to Adémar de Chabannes ["... Arbertum Cenomannis comitem [filium Ugonis]" Adémar Chab., iii, 64 (p. 189); the addition "filium Ugonis" appears in a twelfth century manuscript] and Orderic Vitalis ["Herbertus Cenomannorum comes ... Hugonis patris sui ..." OV iv (vol. 2, pp. 304-5)]. It is further confirmed by the statement of the Actus that Herbert Bacon (a brother of Hugues III, as confirmed by charters - see the page of Hugues II) was an avunculus of Herbert I ["... Herbertus, comes, cognomine Baco, avunculus Herberti, qui fuit temporibus Avesgaudi episcopi..." Act. Pont.Cenom., 363].
     "Mother: Unknown.
     "Spouse(s): Unknown.
     "Children: See the page of Paula for more details.
     "MALE Hugues IV, d. 26 March, probably 1051, count of Maine. ["... ab Hugone Cenomanorum comite filio Herberti illius qui Evigilans-Canes dictus est..." ca. 1046, Cart. Trinité de Vendôme, 123 (#66)]
     "FEMALE Biote, m. Gautier, count of Mantes.
     "FEMALE Gersende, m. (1) Thibaud III, count of Blois; (2) Alberto Azzo II of Este.
Commentary
     "Possible daughter: (perhaps one, but not both, of the following)
FEMALE Paula, m. Jean, living 13 February 1087, lord of La Flèche.
FEMALE NN, m. Landry alias Lancelin, fl 1027×8-1050, lord of Baugency.

     "The exact manner of inheritance of the county of Maine by the lords of La Flèche is uncertain. Two of these possibilities are either that Jean's wife Paula was a daughter of Herbert, or that Jean (son of Landry alias Lancelin) was a maternal grandson of Herbert. These two scenarios obviously cannot both be true (and it is possible that neither of them are). The possibilities are discussed in detail on Paula's page.
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Compiled by Stewart Baldwin
Uploaded 10 January 2008.“.10 He was Comte du Maine between 1015 and 1032.15

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Citations

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