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     Agnès (?) de Maurienne was born in 1103; Racines et Histoire says b. ca 1103.^2,9 She married Archambaud VII «Le Fort» de Bourbon seigneur de Bourbon, son of Aymon/Aimon II «Vaire-Vache» de Bourbon Seigneur de Bourbon and Aldesinde (?) de Nevers, circa 1137
; Racines et Histoire says m. "avant 1140 (1137 ?)"; Med Lands says m. in "1137 or before."^6,7,10,9,11
Agnès (?) de Maurienne died after 1180; Racines et Histoire says d. "aft 1159 (1173?)^2,4,7"
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "ARCHAMBAUD [VII] de Bourbon (-1171). His parentage is confirmed by the Gesta Ambaziensium which records that, after the death of "Oldinus dominus Jalinniaci frater Elisabeth", "Archembaudus de Borbonio filius Haimonis" confiscated the castle of Jaligny[99]. Seigneur de Bourbon. Archambaud "princeps Borbonensium", with the consent of "sa mere Lucia", granted immunities to the abbey of Saint-Menoux by charter dated 2 Mar 1123[100]. "Archambaudus et Agnes eius uxor" granted customs to "leur ville franche de Moncenoux" by charter dated to [1136/39][101]. An undated charter, dated to [1165], records the settlement of a dispute between "Archembaldus de Borbonio" and "Petrus de Blot", at the court of Henry II King of England, records that Pierre claimed that their fathers were "fratres germani" which was not recognised by Archambaud[102]. The Chronicon Cluniacense records the death in 1171 of "Archimbaudus VI, filius Aymonis"[103].
     "m (1137 or before) AGNES, daughter of --- (-after 1180). A notice dated [25 Jan] [1137/39] or 1140 concerning the foundation of the leprosery of La Madeleine near Souvigny refers to a donation of land by "domni Archinbaudi Borbonensis et Agnetis comitissæ" sold property to the prior of Montet by charter dated to [22 Sep 1095/early Jan 1097][104]. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[105], the wife of Archambaud [VII] was Agnes de Maurienne, daughter of Humbert II "le Renforcé" Comte de Maurienne et de Savoie & his wife Gisèle de Bourgogne [Comté]. No indication has yet been found to confirm this origin. However, it is surprising that Archambaud [VII] (who was a bachelor, and probably in his mid-thirties, at the time of his marriage) should have married a spinster who would at that time have been in her late thirties (Agnes must have been born before 1104 if she was the daughter of Comte Humbert). The reference in the charter referred to above to "Agnetis comitissæ" indicates that Agnes was of higher rank by birth than her husband. "Archambaudus et Agnes eius uxor" granted customs to "leur ville franche de Moncenoux" by charter dated to [1136/39][106].
     "Archambaud [VII] & his wife had two children:
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Reference: Genealogics cites:

; Per Med Lands:
     "[AGNES (-after 1180). A notice dated [25 Jan] [1137/39] or 1140 concerning the foundation of the leprosery of La Madeleine near Souvigny refers to a donation of land by "domni Archinbaudi Borbonensis et Agnetis comitissæ" sold property to the prior of Montet by charter dated to [22 Sep 1095/early Jan 1097][176]. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[177], the wife of Archambaud [VII] was the daughter of Comte Humbert II. The primary source which confirms that this is correct has not yet been identified but no indication has been found to indicate that it is incorrect. However, it is surprising that Archambaud VII (who was a bachelor, and probably in his mid-thirties, at the time of his marriage) would have married a spinster in her late thirties (Agnes must have been born before 1104 if she was the daughter of Comte Humbert). The reference in the charter referred to above to "Agnetis comitissæ" indicates that Agnes was of higher rank by birth than her husband.
     "m (before 25 Jan 1140) ARCHAMBAUD [VII] Seigneur de Bourbon, son of AYMON [II] "Vaire-Vache" Seigneur de Bourbon & his wife Lucie de Nevers (-1171).]"
Med Lands cites: Agnès (?) de Maurienne was also known as Agnès de Savoie.^4,6 EDV-25.

; Per Genealogy.EU: "D6. Agnes, *ca 1105, +after 1180; m.Archambault VI de Bourbon (+1171.)¹²"

     Aymon/Aimon II «Vaire-Vache» de Bourbon Seigneur de Bourbon was born in 1055.² He married Aldesinde (?) de Nevers, daughter of Guillaume I/II de Nevers Comte de Tonnerre, circa 1099.^2,10,11,4,5

Aymon/Aimon II «Vaire-Vache» de Bourbon Seigneur de Bourbon died on 27 March 1120; Racines et Histoire says d. "05/07/1116 ou 27/03/1120"; Genealogics says d. 27 Mar 1120; Med Lands says d. bef 27 Mar 1120.^8,4,5
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: 14:56.⁴ EDV-27.

; This is the same person as Aymon II de Bourbon on Wikipédia (Fr.)³

; Per Racines et Histoire: "Aymon II «Vaire-Vache» de Bourbon ° 1055 + 05/07/1116 ou 27/03/1120 ? seigneur de Bourbon (évince son neveu Archambaud VI en 1116)
     ép.~1099 Aldesinde (alias Luce) de Nevers ° ~1070 + ~1120 (fille de Guillaume II, seigneur de Mailly et Huban.)⁸"

; Per Med Lands:
     "AIMON [II] "Vaire-Vache" de Bourbon, son of ARCHAMBAUD [IV] "le Jeune" Seigneur de Bourbon & his wife Béliarde --- (-before 27 Mar 1120). "Erchambaldus princeps uxorque eius Belardis filiique eorum Erchambaldus et Petrus et Hammo et Bernardus de Borbonio, Ebbo quoque filius eius, necnon et Ebbo Guiereia filiique eius" donated the church of Neuville to the chapter of Saint-Ursin de Bourges by charter dated to [1078/95][90]. "Archimbaldus, illius Archimbaldi filius qui ecclesiam de Monticulo construxit, et filius Bderrud" donated "ecclesiam…Mons Cenobii…in honore sancti Ursini" to the church of Bourges, with the consent of "filiis suis…Archimbaldo et Petro de Blot et Aimone…Beliardis uxoris suæ…Amelii Cambo qui filiam ipsius Archimbaldi habebat…", by undated charter[91]. "Aimo de Borbonis frater Archimbaudi domini Borbonensis" sold property to the prior of Montet by charter dated to [22 Sep 1095/early Jan 1097][92]. Seigneur de Bourbon. Suger's Vita Ludovici records that "nobilem baronem Haimonem…Variam Vaccam cognomina, Burbonensem dominum" deprived "nepotem maioris fratris, Erchembaldi scilicet filium" of his inheritance, refused a summons to appear before the king, and was forced into submission at the château de Germigny[93]. "Aimo de Borbonio" rights over "boscum…Montdria" in favour of the priory of Montet, with the advice of "uxoris mee Luce", by charter dated to before 1120[94]. A charter dated 6 Sep 1395 recalls that "Aimon de Bourbon, frère d’Archambaud Sire de Bourbon" sold half "du bois de Mondrié" to the monks of Saint-Michel-du-Montet and that later "Aimon", with the consent of "son épouse Lucia", confirmed the transfer of the same property[95].
     "m (1099) LUCIE de Nevers, daughter of GUILLAUME [II] de Nevers Comte de Tonnerre & his wife ---. The Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum records the marriage of "Guillelmus Tornodorensis ex propria uxore unam filiam" and "Aimoni Borbonensi"[96]. "Aimo de Borbonio" rights over "boscum…Montdria" in favour of the priory of Montet, with the advice of "uxoris mee Luce", by charter dated to before 1120[97]. A charter dated 6 Sep 1395 recalls that "Aimon de Bourbon, frère d’Archambaud Sire de Bourbon" sold half "du bois de Mondrié" to the monks of Saint-Michel-du-Montet and that later "Aimon", with the consent of "son épouse Lucia", confirmed the transfer of the same property[98]. It is not known whether Lucie was the same person as the daughter of Guillaume Comte de Tonnerre. "
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; Per Med Lands:
     "LUCIE de Nevers . The Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum records the marriage of "Guillelmus Tornodorensis ex propria uxore unam filiam" and "Aimoni Borbonensi"[108]. "Aimo de Borbonio" rights over "boscum…Montdria" in favour of the priory of Montet, with the advice of "uxoris mee Luce", by charter dated to before 1120[109]. A charter dated 6 Sep 1395 recalls that "Aimon de Bourbon, frère d’Archambaud Sire de Bourbon" sold half "du bois de Mondrié" to the monks of Saint-Michel-du-Montet and that later "Aimon", with the consent of "son épouse Lucia", confirmed the transfer of the same property[110]. It is not known whether Lucie was the same person as the daughter of Guillaume Comte de Tonnerre.
     "m (1099) AIMON [II] "Vaire-Vache" Seigneur de Bourbon, son of ARCHAMBAUD [IV] "le Fort" Seigneur de Bourbon & his wife Béliarde --- (-before 27 Mar 1120)."
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     Aldesinde (?) de Nevers was born circa 1070.^1,2 She married Aymon/Aimon II «Vaire-Vache» de Bourbon Seigneur de Bourbon, son of Archambaud IV ' Le Fort' de Bourbon seigneur de Bourbon and Béliarde (?), circa 1099.^2,5,6,7,8

Aldesinde (?) de Nevers died circa 1120.²
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "AIMON [II] "Vaire-Vache" de Bourbon, son of ARCHAMBAUD [IV] "le Jeune" Seigneur de Bourbon & his wife Béliarde --- (-before 27 Mar 1120). "Erchambaldus princeps uxorque eius Belardis filiique eorum Erchambaldus et Petrus et Hammo et Bernardus de Borbonio, Ebbo quoque filius eius, necnon et Ebbo Guiereia filiique eius" donated the church of Neuville to the chapter of Saint-Ursin de Bourges by charter dated to [1078/95][90]. "Archimbaldus, illius Archimbaldi filius qui ecclesiam de Monticulo construxit, et filius Bderrud" donated "ecclesiam…Mons Cenobii…in honore sancti Ursini" to the church of Bourges, with the consent of "filiis suis…Archimbaldo et Petro de Blot et Aimone…Beliardis uxoris suæ…Amelii Cambo qui filiam ipsius Archimbaldi habebat…", by undated charter[91]. "Aimo de Borbonis frater Archimbaudi domini Borbonensis" sold property to the prior of Montet by charter dated to [22 Sep 1095/early Jan 1097][92]. Seigneur de Bourbon. Suger's Vita Ludovici records that "nobilem baronem Haimonem…Variam Vaccam cognomina, Burbonensem dominum" deprived "nepotem maioris fratris, Erchembaldi scilicet filium" of his inheritance, refused a summons to appear before the king, and was forced into submission at the château de Germigny[93]. "Aimo de Borbonio" rights over "boscum…Montdria" in favour of the priory of Montet, with the advice of "uxoris mee Luce", by charter dated to before 1120[94]. A charter dated 6 Sep 1395 recalls that "Aimon de Bourbon, frère d’Archambaud Sire de Bourbon" sold half "du bois de Mondrié" to the monks of Saint-Michel-du-Montet and that later "Aimon", with the consent of "son épouse Lucia", confirmed the transfer of the same property[95].
     "m (1099) LUCIE de Nevers, daughter of GUILLAUME [II] de Nevers Comte de Tonnerre & his wife ---. The Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum records the marriage of "Guillelmus Tornodorensis ex propria uxore unam filiam" and "Aimoni Borbonensi"[96]. "Aimo de Borbonio" rights over "boscum…Montdria" in favour of the priory of Montet, with the advice of "uxoris mee Luce", by charter dated to before 1120[97]. A charter dated 6 Sep 1395 recalls that "Aimon de Bourbon, frère d’Archambaud Sire de Bourbon" sold half "du bois de Mondrié" to the monks of Saint-Michel-du-Montet and that later "Aimon", with the consent of "son épouse Lucia", confirmed the transfer of the same property[98]. It is not known whether Lucie was the same person as the daughter of Guillaume Comte de Tonnerre. "
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; Per Racines et Histoire: "Aymon II «Vaire-Vache» de Bourbon ° 1055 + 05/07/1116 ou 27/03/1120 ? seigneur de Bourbon (évince son neveu Archambaud VI en 1116)
     ép.~1099 Aldesinde (alias Luce) de Nevers ° ~1070 + ~1120 (fille de Guillaume II, seigneur de Mailly et Huban.)⁹"

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: 14:56.⁶ Aldesinde (?) de Nevers was also known as Lucie de Nevers.⁵ EDV-26.

; Per Med Lands:
     "LUCIE de Nevers . The Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum records the marriage of "Guillelmus Tornodorensis ex propria uxore unam filiam" and "Aimoni Borbonensi"[108]. "Aimo de Borbonio" rights over "boscum…Montdria" in favour of the priory of Montet, with the advice of "uxoris mee Luce", by charter dated to before 1120[109]. A charter dated 6 Sep 1395 recalls that "Aimon de Bourbon, frère d’Archambaud Sire de Bourbon" sold half "du bois de Mondrié" to the monks of Saint-Michel-du-Montet and that later "Aimon", with the consent of "son épouse Lucia", confirmed the transfer of the same property[110]. It is not known whether Lucie was the same person as the daughter of Guillaume Comte de Tonnerre.
     "m (1099) AIMON [II] "Vaire-Vache" Seigneur de Bourbon, son of ARCHAMBAUD [IV] "le Fort" Seigneur de Bourbon & his wife Béliarde --- (-before 27 Mar 1120)."
Med Lands cites: She was living in 1095.¹

     Archambaud IV ' Le Fort' de Bourbon seigneur de Bourbon was born circa 1020; Racines et Histoire says b. ca 1020; Med Lands says b, 1030.^1,2 He married Béliarde (?) before 1074.^1,6,3,2

Archambaud IV ' Le Fort' de Bourbon seigneur de Bourbon died on 22 September 1095; Racines et Histoire says d. 16 July 1078; Genealogics and Med Lands say d. 22 Sept 1095.^1,3,2
      ; Per Racines et Histoire (Bourbon Ancien): “Archambaud IV «Le Fort» de Bourbon ° ~1020 + 16/07/1078 seigneur de Bourbon
     ép. 1048 Philippa d’Auvergne (Béliarde) ° ~1018/20 ”.⁷

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIV 56.³ GAV-27 EDV-27.

; This is the same person as ”Archambaud IV de Bourbon” at Wikipédia (Fr.)⁸

; Per Med Lands:
     "ARCHAMBAUD [IV] "le Fort" de Bourbon ([1030]-22 Sep [1095]). "Erchenbudus, Borbonensium comes…et frater meus Albuinus et uxor mea Aurea et filius meus Herchenbaldus" donated "ecclesiam…Mons Cenobii…in honore sancti Ursini" to the church of Bourges by undated charter, signed by "Erchenbaudus comes, Haimo presul frater eius, Albuinus frater eius, Erchenbaldus filius eius, Aurea uxor eius…"[61]. Huillard-Bréholles dates this charter to [1048/49][62]. His birth date is estimated based on his father's estimated birth date. "Archinbaldus Burbunensis cognomina fortis filius Archinbaldi di Monticulo" donated property to Chapelle-Aude with the consent of "Archinbaldi filii mei" by charter dated 23 Jun 1077[63]. Seigneur de Bourbon. "Archimbaldus, illius Archimbaldi filius qui ecclesiam de Monticulo construxit, et filius Bderrud" donated "ecclesiam…Mons Cenobii…in honore sancti Ursini" to the church of Bourges, with the consent of "filiis suis…Archimbaldo et Petro de Blot et Aimone…Beliardis uxoris suæ…Amelii Cambo qui filiam ipsius Archimbaldi habebat…", by undated charter[64]. "Erchambaldus princeps Borbonensis et Petrus Primellus atque uxor illius Belsadis cum filiis suis Erchambaldusque de Ardenna Giraldusque frater eius atque soror eorum cum filiis suis Ingone et Erchambaldo" donated the church of Neuville to the chapter of Saint-Ursin de Bourges by undated charter dated to [1078/95], the signatory part of the document confirming precise family relationships in the donor's family by naming "Erchambaldus princeps uxorque eius Belardis filiique eorum Erchambaldus et Petrus et Hammo et Bernardus de Borbonio, Ebbo quoque filius eius, necnon et Ebbo Guiereia filiique eius"[65].
     "m BELIARDE, daughter of ---. "Archimbaldus, illius Archimbaldi filius qui ecclesiam de Monticulo construxit, et filius Bderrud" donated "ecclesiam…Mons Cenobii…in honore sancti Ursini" to the church of Bourges, with the consent of "…Beliardis uxoris suæ…", by undated charter[66]. "Erchambaldus princeps Borbonensis et Petrus Primellus atque uxor illius Belsadis…" donated the church of Neuville to the chapter of Saint-Ursin de Bourges by charter dated to [1078/95], the signatory part of the document confirming precise family relationships in the donor's family by naming "Erchambaldus princeps uxorque eius Belardis…"[67]."
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     Isabelle de Vermandois was born in 1143.^1,2 She married Philippe I (?) Count of Flanders, Cte de Vermandois, Regent of France, son of Thierry III d'Alsace (?) comte de Flandres and Sibilla/Sibyl/Sibylle (?) d'Anjou, Countess of Flanders, in 1158
; Genealogy.EU (Capet 8 page) say m. 1159; his 1st wife.^5,6
Isabelle de Vermandois died on 26 March 1182.¹
Isabelle de Vermandois was buried after 26 March 1182 at Amiens Cathedral, Amiens, Departement de la Somme, Picardie, France.⁶
Isabelle de Vermandois died on 28 March 1183 at Arras, France.^5,6
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. Page 9, 13.¹ Isabelle de Vermandois was also known as Mabile (?) Cts de Vermandois et de Valois.^5,6

     Daniel Lawrence Balch was born on 26 November 1894 at St. Louis, Missouri, USA; My father was Daniel L. Balch. I noticed that my father is now listed with his siblings, but he was born last. The information on him is: Date of Birth: Nov. 26, 1894, Date of Death: June 7, 1955. Place of birth St. Louis, Mo. He was married to Marie Lang on Aug. 6th, 1922. They had nine children, I am one of the children.
Celeste (Balch) Dillon.
He married Marie Lang on 6 August 1922.

Daniel Lawrence Balch died on 6 April 1955 at age 60.

     Gui I (?) Vicomte de Limoges married Emma de Segur Heiress of Ségur.⁵
Gui I (?) Vicomte de Limoges was born circa 949.
Gui I (?) Vicomte de Limoges died on 27 October 1025 at Limoges, France (now).¹
      ; Leo van de pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 773.¹

     Géraud (?) vicomte de Limoges married Rothilde (?) de Brosse, daughter of Guy Raoul de Brosse Vicomte de Brosse and Melisendis/Mélissande (?), after 957
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Her 2nd husband.^2,1,3,7,8
Géraud (?) vicomte de Limoges died in 988.¹
     GAV-28.

; Per Med Lands:
     "GERAUD, son of HILDEGAIRE Vicomte de Limoges & his wife Thiberge --- (-988). Settipani suggests that Géraud was the fifth signatory in the following document dated 920[612]: “Dedane... Helie, Eldegarii, Fulcherii, Gerao, Ingelberti, Gozberti, Guillebaldi” signed the charter dated 920 under which “Deda femina” donated property “in pago Limovicensi in vicaria Novicense in villa...Adiola” to Limoges Saint-Etienne, for the soul of “Hildeberti conjugis mei” and for the damage caused to the church by “filius noster Hildebertus abba”, with the consent of “filio meo Helia”[613]. However, the chronology of Géraud’s life, particularly the estimated date of his marriage, is inconsistent with his having been old enough to have witnessed a charter in 920. As noted above, it is more likely that “Gerao”, assuming that he was a member of the vicecomital family, was a younger brother of Vicomte Hildegaire. “Ramnulfus” sold property “in urbe Biturcico in vicaria Dunense in villa...Duno” to “Eldejere vescommite et ucxore sua...Tecbergane et Giraldo filium nostrum” by charter dated 15 Mar 941[614]. “Eldegarius vicecomes et uxor mea Teotberga et filii nostri Giraldus et Eldebertus” donated “mansos novem in pago Limovicino vicaria Mansiacense in villa...Benaias” to Limoges Saint-Marcial by charter dated to after 943[615]. Vicomte de Limoges. The Chronicon Gaufredi Vosiensis names "Geraldus" as successor of "Fulcherius" in the viscounty of Limoges[616]. "Ademarus vicecomes et Geraldus vicecomes consanguineus meus" donated “unum mansum...a Meseirac in vicaria Usercensi” to Uzerche by charter dated to the 11th century[617]. Baluze identifies the donors as Adémar Vicomte de Ségur and Géraud Vicomte de Limoges, suggesting that they were first cousins, sons of two brothers[618]. The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes names "Geraldo vicecomite et filius eius Widone" when recording that they fought "Helias Petragoricensi comite"[619], although this passage is presumably inaccurate as Hélie [I] Comte de Périgord only succeeded to his county after the death of his father in [1003/12], many years after the death of Vicomte Gérard.
     "m (after Mar 957) as her second husband, ROTHILDE, widow of ARCHAMBAUD Vicomte ---, daughter of ---. “Archambaldus vicecomes et uxor sua Rotildis” sold property “in pago Lemovico in...villa...Ille Cacœria...” to “Droctrico” by charter dated 5 Mar 957[620]. "Hildegarius Lemovicensium pontifex" granted privileges to Uzerche, naming "genitore meo…domno Geraldo vicecomite necnon et genetrice mea Rotilde…" by charter dated to [970/86][621]. "Rotildis vicecomitissa" donated "mansum…a Monsor…in vicaria Usercensi" to Uzerche, for the souls of "Archambaldi senioris mariti mei" who had given this property to her and "Geraldi vicecomitis senioris mei", by charter dated to [Jul 987/988], witnessed by "filii eiusdem Rothildis, Aldegarius episcopus, Guido, Geraldus, Alduinus abbas et cæteri filii…"[622]. Le Laboureur suggests that Rothilde was “fille et héritière du Vicomte de Brosse et d’une dame nommée Tatberga, qualifiée ayeule du Vicomte Guy dans un titre de l’abbaye d’Userche”[623]. The point relating to “Tatberga” presumably refers to the charter dated Aug 1019 under which "Guido et uxor mea Emma…et filii nostri Geraldus, Ademarus, Petrus" donated "ecclesiam…Sancti Bibiano…a Nioli" to Uzerche, for the souls of "…aviæ meæ Tetiscræ et…patris mei Geraldi et…Rotildis matris meæ"[624]. “Tetiscræ” in this last document is likely to be a mistranscription. If the name was “Tatbergæ”, this probably refers to the paternal grandmother of Vicomte Guy not the mother of Rothilde. Concerning the fundamental point made by Le Laboureur, Settipani has pointed out that no primary source reference is quoted by Le Laboureur to support the statement and suggests that it may be based on an unsound conclusion drawn because the castle of Brosse was held by Rothilde’s descendants and is later recorded as a vicomté[625]."
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Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 773.⁹
; Per Racines et Histoire: "Archambaud 1er «Le Franc» de Bourbon ° ~930 + 990/999 seigneur de Bourbon (959-990)
     ép. ~958 Rothilde de Brosse (Limoges) ° ~932 + après 986 (fille de Raoul ? de Brosse, vicomte de Limoges ; ép. 2) ~957 Géraud, vicomte de Limoges.)⁸"

He was living in 963.²

     Guy Raoul de Brosse Vicomte de Brosse was born circa 920. He married Melisendis/Mélissande (?), daughter of Hugues I (?) Comte de Maine, in 930.^3,4,2

     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 773.⁴

; Per Wikipédia (Fr.): "Les vicomtes de Brosse sont issus de Rothilde de Brosse (dès la première moitié du Xe siècle, apparaissent des seigneurs, ou châtelains, ou vicomtes de Brosse : Raoul, puis son fils Guy (Guy Raoul) qui semble le père de notre Rothilde ; la mère de cette dernière pourrait être une fille du comte Hugues du Maine, dont la mère était la princesse carolingienne Rothilde fille de Charles le Chauve ; en plus de Géraud de Limoges qui suit, Rothilde de Brosse aurait aussi épousé Archambaud de Comborn et Archambaud Ier de Bourbon), mariée vers 957 à Géraud Ier, vicomte de Limoges (v.900-v.986) (liste des vicomtes de Limoges), qui eut une nombreuse descendance par ses deux fils : - Gui, vicomte de Limoges après son père ; - et Aimeri « Ostefranc » (à l'origine de la branche des vicomtes de Rochechouart)."²

; NB: The name of Rothilde's father is uncertain:
     1. Genealogics (citing E.S) calls him "Adémar, Vicomte de Brosse".
     2. Wikipédia (Fr.) (Entgries concerning the Vicomtes de Brosse and Hugues 1er du Maine) calls him "Guy Raoul", or Guy son or Raoul. The entry on the Vicomtes de Brosse implies that the Vicomtes started with Guy Raoul's dau. Rothilde.
     3. Racines et Histoire refers to him as "Raoul (?) de Brosse, vicomte de Limoges"
     4. Med Lands shows the father of Rothilde as an unnamed "Vicomte de Brosse"
Conclusion: I have included all of these name combinations here. GA Vaut.^2,1,4,5,6,7 GAV-29 EDV-29. Guy Raoul de Brosse Vicomte de Brosse was also known as Raoul de Brosse vicomte de Limoge.¹ Guy Raoul de Brosse Vicomte de Brosse was also known as Adémar Vicomte de Brosse.⁴

     Hildegair (Eldegaire) (?) Viscount of Limoges married Tetberge (?) d’Aurillac, daughter of Gerard II (?) Cte de Limousin.^2,1,4

      ; Per Med Lands:
     "HILDEGAIRE (-[943/47]). Vicomte de Limoges. “Eldegarius vicecomes” donated property “in pago Limovicino in vicaria Limovicense...alodem meum...Cavaliacus” to Limoges Saint-Etienne, for the souls of “Aldeberti vicecomiti patri meo necnon et matri meæ...Adaltrude seu Petroni abbati consobrino meo”, by charter dated 1 May 914, signed by “Aldegarii vicecomitis”[573]. “Dedane...Helie, Eldegarii, Fulcherii, Gerao, Ingelberti, Gozberti, Guillebaldi” signed the charter dated 920 under which “Deda femina” donated property “in pago Limovicensi in vicaria Novicense in villa...Adiola” to Limoges Saint-Etienne, for the soul of “Hildeberti conjugis mei” and for the damage caused to the church by “filius noster Hildebertus abba”, with the consent of “filio meo Helia”[574]. The third, fourth and fifth signatories could have been the donor’s stepchildren. “Eldegarii vicecomiti...” witnessed the charter dated Nov 922 under which “Landricus et uxor mea...Ildia” donated property “in pago Limovicino...de Lemovicas civitate in pago Jucunciaco manso...Pereto” to Limoges Saint-Etienne[575]. "Hildegrius Lemouicinorum vicecomes et uxor illius Tetberga" returned "la ville d’Athee" to Tours Saint-Martin in return for "la villa de Brigeuil", by charter dated in the compilation to 884[576]. Roblin states this document should be redated to [923/26][577]. Turpion Bishop of Limoges donated “villam...Bacallaria...et...unum mansum in curte Wulteziaco in villa...Parciacus”, with the consent of “nostris consanguineis seu optimatibus Limovicensi pago...Hildegario vicecomite, Rainaldo vicecomite, Archambaldo, Ademaro”, by charter dated to [936/42][578]. “Ramnulfus” sold property “in urbe Biturcico in vicaria Dunense in villa...Duno” to “Eldejere vescommite et ucxore sua...Tecbergane et Giraldo filium nostrum” by charter dated 15 Mar 941[579]. “Eldegarius vicecomes et uxor mea Teotberga et filii nostri Giraldus et Eldebertus” donated “mansos novem in pago Limovicino vicaria Mansiacense in villa...Benaias” to Limoges Saint-Marcial by charter dated to after 943[580]. [A fragmentary chronicle of the dukes of Aquitaine records a dispute between “vicecomes Ebles de Thoarcio” and “Ademaro in Lemovicensi pago”, dating it to “defuncto Hildegario vicecomite”[581]. Fage points out that Lasteyrie has dated this conflict to 963, and suggests that Vicomte Hildegaire’s death should be dated to shortly before this date[582]. However, this “fragmentary chronicle” is one of a series (discussed in the introduction to the section Du Puy-du-Fou in the document AQUITAINE DUKES) which provide the basis for the genealogy of the Puy-du-Fou family which, according to Richard, was fabricated by René du Puy-du-Fou (and therefore presumably dated to the 1620s/1630s) who also fabricated a chronicle in latin as the supposed primary source which was first published by Augustin du Paz in his Table généalogique de la maison Du Puy-du-Fou in 1639[583]. Parts of these spurious documents include details which can be verified against other primary sources, so the boundaries between historical accuracy and fabrication are difficult to determine. Until more corroboration emerges, it is suggested that this proposed date of death of Vicomte Hildegaire should be treated with caution.
     "m THIBERGE, daughter of --- (-after 943). "Hildegrius Lemouicinorum vicecomes et uxor illius Tetberga" returned "la ville d’Athee" to Tours Saint-Martin in return for "la villa de Brigeuil", by charter dated in the compilation to 884[584]. Roblin states this document should be redated to [923/26][585]. “Ramnulfus” sold property “in urbe Biturcico in vicaria Dunense in villa...Duno” to “Eldejere vescommite et ucxore sua...Tecbergane et Giraldo filium nostrum” by charter dated 15 Mar 941[586]. “Eldegarius vicecomes et uxor mea Teotberga et filii nostri Giraldus et Eldebertus” donated “mansos novem in pago Limovicino vicaria Mansiacense in villa...Benaias” to Limoges Saint-Marcial by charter dated to after 943[587]."
Med Lands cites:

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:773.² GAV-29. Hildegair (Eldegaire) (?) Viscount of Limoges was living in 963.²

     Adalbert (?) Vicomte of Limoges married Adaltrude (?)
;
His 1st wife.^3,2 Adalbert (?) Vicomte of Limoges married Deda (?)
;
His 2nd wife.^3,4 Adalbert (?) Vicomte of Limoges was born circa 835.
Adalbert (?) Vicomte of Limoges died between 14 May 904 and 1 May 914.³
     GAV-33 EDV-30 GKJ-32.

; Per Med Lands:
     "HILDEBERT [Audebert] (-[14 May 904/1 May 914]). Emperor Charles II “le Chauve” granted "villas...Cavaliacus...in comitatu Lemovicensi" to "fidelis noster...Hildebertus" by charter dated 17 Jul 876[567]. “Sicbardus et conjuves mea Alaitrudis” sold a vine “infra ur[be Lemov]icino in pago Burgolio in villa...Tedlido” to “Eldeberto [et conjuge] sua Adaltrudis” by charter dated Sep 883[568]. A charter dated 14 May 904 records a judgment by Ebles Comte de Poitou ordering "Aldeberto Lemovicensi" to return “silvam Sanctæ Mariæ...Boerecia” to the abbey of Nouaillé[569]. [Vicomte de Limoges]. He is named as vicomte in his son’s donation dated 1 May 914 (see below), but no primary source has yet been identified which accords him the title during his lifetime.
     "m firstly ADALTRUDE, [sister of GERAUD d'Aurillac, daughter of GERAUD Comte [d’Aurillac] & his wife Adaltrude ---] (-after Sep 883). “Sicbardus et conjuves mea Alaitrudis” sold a vine “infra ur[be Lemov]icino in pago Burgolio in villa...Tedlido” to “Eldeberto [et conjuge] sua Adaltrudis” by charter dated Sep 883[570]. It has been suggested that Adaltrude was the sister of Gérard Comte d’Aurillac[571].
     "m secondly DEDA, daughter of --- (-after 920). “Deda femina” donated property “in pago Limovicensi in vicaria Novicense in villa...Adiola” to Limoges Saint-Etienne, for the soul of “Hildeberti conjugis mei” and for the damage caused to the church by “filius noster Hildebertus abba”, with the consent of “filio meo Helia”, by charter dated 920, signed by “Dedane...Helie, Eldegarii, Fulcherii, Gerao, Ingelberti, Gozberti, Guillebaldi”[572]. The absence of the viscomital title attributed to Hildebert in this document suggests that Deda’s husband may not have been the same person as Vicomte Hildebert. However, the names of the third, fourth and fifth witnesses, possibly the donor’s step-children, indicate a connection to the vicecomital family. In addition, no other individual of named Hildebert has been noted in the documentation of Limoges Saint-Etienne at that time."
Med Lands cites:

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:773.² Adalbert (?) Vicomte of Limoges was also known as Hildebert/Audebert (?) Vicomte de Limoges.^3,2 He was living in 873.²

     Adaltrude (?) married Adalbert (?) Vicomte of Limoges, son of Foucher (?) Vicomte de Limoges and NN d'Auvergne,
;
His 1st wife.^1,2
Adaltrude (?) died after September 883.¹
     Adaltrude (?) lived at an unknown place ; Per Med Lands:
     "m firstly ADALTRUDE, [sister of GERAUD d'Aurillac, daughter of GERAUD Comte [d’Aurillac] & his wife Adaltrude ---] (-after Sep 883). “Sicbardus et conjuves mea Alaitrudis” sold a vine “infra ur[be Lemov]icino in pago Burgolio in villa...Tedlido” to “Eldeberto [et conjuge] sua Adaltrudis” by charter dated Sep 883[570]. It has been suggested that Adaltrude was the sister of Gérard Comte d’Aurillac[571].
Med Lands cites: GAV-33 EDV-30 GKJ-32.

     John Lindsay PC, 1st Lord Lindsay of the Byres married (?) Stewart, daughter of Robert Stewart 1st Lord Lorn and Innermeath and Joan/Margaret Stewart.^2,5,6

John Lindsay PC, 1st Lord Lindsay of the Byres died on 6 February 1482.^2,5
      ; JOHN LINDSAY, 1st Lord Lindsay of the Byres (S), so cr just prior to Oct 1444, PC (S); a hostage for JAMES I's ransom by the English 1424; Justiciar Scotland N of the Forth 1457, a Ld of Session March 1457/8; m allegedly a dau of Robert Stewart, 1st Lord Lorn (see MORAY, E), and d 6 Feb 1482, having had, with at least three daus (Christian, m 1st John, Master of Seton (see EGLINTON and WINTON, E), m 2nd Robert, s of 1st Earl of Glencairn (see CUNINGHAME, Bt); [20575] Margaret, m 3rd Lord Lorn (see MORAY, E); Mariot, m as his 1st w 1st Lord Itay of Yester; see TWEEDDALE, M):
1a DAVID LINDSAY, 2nd Lord Lindsay of the Byres
2a JOHN LINDSAY, 3rd Lord Lindsay of the Byres
PATRICK LINDSAY, 4th Lord Lindsay of the Byres.² John Lindsay PC, 1st Lord Lindsay of the Byres was also known as John Lindsay Lord Lindsay of Byres.⁷ He was 1st Lord Lindsay of the Byres before October 1444.²

     Archambaud III "le Jeune" de Bourbon Sire de Bourbon married Boerrud (?)^1,5
Archambaud III "le Jeune" de Bourbon Sire de Bourbon married Deaurata (Aurece) (?)²
Archambaud III "le Jeune" de Bourbon Sire de Bourbon married Agnès (?)²
Archambaud III "le Jeune" de Bourbon Sire de Bourbon was born circa 1000.²
Archambaud III "le Jeune" de Bourbon Sire de Bourbon died on 16 July 1078; Racines et Histoire says d. 1064/6.^1,2
      ; Leo van de pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIV 56. GAV-28 EDV-28.

     Boerrud (?) married Archambaud III "le Jeune" de Bourbon Sire de Bourbon, son of Archambaud II "le Vieux" de Bourbon seigneur de Bourbon and Ermengarde de Sully dame de Saint-Maurice.^2,1

      ; Leo van de pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIV 56.¹ GAV-28 EDV-28 GKJ-28.

     Archambaud II "le Vieux" de Bourbon seigneur de Bourbon married Ermengarde de Sully dame de Saint-Maurice, daughter of Umbald de Sully and Almodis (?).^1,5,2
Archambaud II "le Vieux" de Bourbon seigneur de Bourbon was born circa 959 at Bourbon, France (now).²
Archambaud II "le Vieux" de Bourbon seigneur de Bourbon died between 1031 and 1033; Racines et Histoire says d. ca 1034.^1,2
     GAV-29 EDV-29.

; Leo van de pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIV 56.¹

     Ermengarde de Sully dame de Saint-Maurice married Archambaud II "le Vieux" de Bourbon seigneur de Bourbon, son of Archambaud I "le Franc" (?) seigneur de Bourbon and Rothilde (?) de Brosse.^4,1,2

Ermengarde de Sully dame de Saint-Maurice died after 22 January 1049.¹
      ; Leo van de pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIV 56.¹ GAV-29 EDV-29.

     Umbald de Sully married Almodis (?)¹

Umbald de Sully died circa 1064.
     GAV-30 EDV-30.

; Leo van de pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIV 56.² Umbald de Sully was also known as Albuin.²

     Archembaud II (?) Sire de Sully married Agnes (?)
Archembaud II (?) Sire de Sully was born circa 1020.
Archembaud II (?) Sire de Sully died after 1064.
     GAV-31 EDV-31 GKJ-31.

     Agnes (?) married Archembaud II (?) Sire de Sully, son of Herbert (?) Sire de Sully.
Agnes (?) was born circa 1020.
     GAV-31 EDV-31 GKJ-31.

     Herbert (?) Sire de Sully was born circa 981.
     GAV-32 EDV-32 GKJ-32.

     Archembaud I (?) Sire de Sully was born circa 960.
     GAV-33 EDV-33 GKJ-33.

     Archambaud I "le Franc" (?) seigneur de Bourbon was born circa 930.^1,2 He married Rothilde (?) de Brosse, daughter of Guy Raoul de Brosse Vicomte de Brosse and Melisendis/Mélissande (?), after March 957
;
Her 1st husband.^6,7,8
Archambaud I "le Franc" (?) seigneur de Bourbon died after 5 March 957.⁷
Archambaud I "le Franc" (?) seigneur de Bourbon died in 999.²
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "ARCHAMBAUD (-after 5 Mar 957). Possible family connections of Archambaud are suggested by the charter dated to [1003/36] under which "Rotbertus de Chatmart et Gaufredus frater eius…Ermesindis et Belieldis uxores eorum, Ebolus et Guido et Geraldus filii Gaufredi, Arcambaldus et Geraldus filii Rotberti" donated property in "manso de Monsor" to Uzerche[606], the connection being "Monsor" [Moussours near Uzerche]. Turpion Bishop of Limoges donated “villam...Bacallaria...et...unum mansum in curte Wulteziaco in villa...Parciacus”, with the consent of “nostris consanguineis seu optimatibus Limovicensi pago...Hildegario vicecomite, Rainaldo vicecomite, Archambaldo, Adema[ro”, by charter dated to [936/42][607]. It is not known whether “Archambaldo” in this document is the same person as the future vicomte but this appears possible.] Vicomte [de Limoges]. “Archambaldus vicecomes et uxor sua Rotildis” sold property “in avocatione sancti Salvatoris et sancta Maria et sancti Austregisili...ecclesia...pago Lemovico in...villa...Ille Cacœria...” to “Droctrico” by charter dated 5 Mar 957[608].
     "m as her first husband, ROTHILDE, daughter of ---. “Archambaldus vicecomes et uxor sua Rotildis” sold property “in avocatione sancti Salvatoris et sancta Maria et sancti Austregisili...ecclesia...pago Lemovico in...villa...Ille Cacœria...” to “Droctrico” by charter dated 5 Mar 957[609]. She married secondly Géraud Vicomte de Limoges. "Hildegarius Lemovicensium pontifex" granted privileges to Uzerche, naming "genitore meo…domno Geraldo vicecomite necnon et genetrice mea Rotilde…" by charter dated to [970/86][610]. "Rotildis vicecomitissa" donated "mansum…a Monsor…in vicaria Usercensi" to Uzerche, for the souls of "Archambaldi senioris mariti mei" who had given this property to her and "Geraldi vicecomitis senioris mei", by charter dated to [Jul 987/988], witnessed by "filii eiusdem Rothildis, Aldegarius episcopus, Guido, Geraldus, Alduinus abbas et cæteri filii…"[611]."
Med Lands cites: GAV-30 EDV-30.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIV 56.⁹

; NB: Racines et Histoire and Med Lands agree that Rothilde de Brosse Married a man named Archambaud, but they seem to disagree on who he was.
     Racines et Histoire calls him "Archambaud 1er «Le Franc» de Bourbon", an early member of the Bourbon family.
     Med Lands calls him just Archambaud and shows no clear family connection
There is no clear evidence that they are the same person or different people. I have chosen to combine them for the present. GA Vaut.^8,7,10

Archambaud I "le Franc" (?) seigneur de Bourbon was also known as Archambaud (?) Vicomte de Limoges.⁷ Archambaud I "le Franc" (?) seigneur de Bourbon was also known as Archambaud I 'Le Franc' de Bourbon Seigneur de Bourbon.⁸

; Per Racines et Histoire: "Archambaud 1er «Le Franc» de Bourbon ° ~930 + 990/999 seigneur de Bourbon (959-990)
     ép. ~958 Rothilde de Brosse (Limoges) ° ~932 + après 986 (fille de Raoul ? de Brosse, vicomte de Limoges ; ép. 2) ~957 Géraud, vicomte de Limoges.)⁸"

He was living in 944.¹

     Deda (?) married Adalbert (?) Vicomte of Limoges, son of Foucher (?) Vicomte de Limoges and NN d'Auvergne,
;
His 2nd wife.^1,2
Deda (?) died after 920.¹
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "m secondly DEDA, daughter of --- (-after 920). “Deda femina” donated property “in pago Limovicensi in vicaria Novicense in villa...Adiola” to Limoges Saint-Etienne, for the soul of “Hildeberti conjugis mei” and for the damage caused to the church by “filius noster Hildebertus abba”, with the consent of “filio meo Helia”, by charter dated 920, signed by “Dedane...Helie, Eldegarii, Fulcherii, Gerao, Ingelberti, Gozberti, Guillebaldi”[572]. The absence of the viscomital title attributed to Hildebert in this document suggests that Deda’s husband may not have been the same person as Vicomte Hildebert. However, the names of the third, fourth and fifth witnesses, possibly the donor’s step-children, indicate a connection to the vicecomital family. In addition, no other individual of named Hildebert has been noted in the documentation of Limoges Saint-Etienne at that time."
Med Lands cites: [572] Limoges Saint-Etienne, XII, p. 33.¹ GAV-30.

     Aimon/Aymon I (?) seigneur de Bourbon married Aldesinde de Bourbon, daughter of Guy (?) seigneur de Bourbon.^6,3,4,9
Aimon/Aymon I (?) seigneur de Bourbon was born between 900 and 905; Racines et Histoire says b. ca 900; Med Lands says b. 900/05.^6,4
Aimon/Aymon I (?) seigneur de Bourbon died after January 954; Racines et Histoire says d. ca 980; Med Lands ;says d. aft Jan 954.^2,4
     GAV-31 EDV-31.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIV 56.³ Aimon/Aymon I (?) seigneur de Bourbon was also known as Haimon I (?) Sire de Bourbon.³

; Per Racines et Histoire: "Aymon 1er de Bourbon ° ~900 + ~980 seigneur de Bourbon (950, 953-954)
     ép. Aldesinde (ou Arsende) de Déols (Bourbon) ° ~905 (fille de Gui, seigneur de Bourbon.)⁶"

; Per Med Lands:
     "AIMON [I] [Emmon] ([900/05]-after Jan 954). His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated Jan 954 (see below). "Emmonis, Archimbaldi, Dagberti, Aimonis, item Aimonis, et item Aimonis…" signed the charter dated Mar 920 under which "Aymardus" donated "curtem Silviniaci" to Cluny[9], the first three signatories presumably being Aimar’s sons. His birth date range is estimated on the assumption that he and his brothers were young adults or adolescents when they witnessed this 920 charter. Seigneur de Bourbon. "Aymo" donated property "in paugo Alvernico in fundis Donobrens in accio Noviacense, vocabulum est Longo Verno" to Cluny by charter dated Nov 950, signed by "Eldesen…Arkambal, Gemmono, Ebono, Unbert, Elferico, item Aimono, Girber, Dummiono…"[10]. "Aymus" donated "ecclesiam…sancti Petri…in pago Arvernico, in vicaria Donobrense, in villa Salviniaco" to Cluny, with the consent of "uxore mea Aldesinde" and for the souls of "genitoris mei et genetricis meæ Ermengardæ et fratrum meorum Daceberti et Archimbaldi", by charter dated Jan 954 which refers to "cartam testamenti pater meus Aymardus", signed "apud castrum Borbonem" by "Aymonis et Aldesinde uxoris eius…Geraldi et Archimbaldi filiorum eius…"[11].
     "m ALDESINDE, daughter of ---. "Eldesen…Arkambal, Gemmono, Ebono, Unbert, Elferico, item Aimono, Girber, Dummiono…" signed the charter dated Nov 950 under which "Aymo" donated property "in paugo Alvernico in fundis Donobrens in accio Noviacense, vocabulum est Longo Verno" to Cluny[12]. "Aymus" donated "ecclesiam…sancti Petri…in pago Arvernico, in vicaria Donobrense, in villa Salviniaco" to Cluny, with the consent of "uxore mea Aldesinde", by charter dated Jan 954[13]."
Med Lands cites: He was living in 922.³

     Aldesinde de Bourbon married Aimon/Aymon I (?) seigneur de Bourbon, son of Adhémar/Aymar (?) seigneur de Souvigny and Hermengardis (?).^1,2,3,4
Aldesinde de Bourbon was born circa 905.⁵
      ; Per Racines et Histoire: "Aymon 1er de Bourbon ° ~900 + ~980 seigneur de Bourbon (950, 953-954)
     ép. Aldesinde (ou Arsende) de Déols (Bourbon) ° ~905 (fille de Gui, seigneur de Bourbon.)¹"

; Per Med Lands:
     "AIMON [I] [Emmon] ([900/05]-after Jan 954). His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated Jan 954 (see below). "Emmonis, Archimbaldi, Dagberti, Aimonis, item Aimonis, et item Aimonis…" signed the charter dated Mar 920 under which "Aymardus" donated "curtem Silviniaci" to Cluny[9], the first three signatories presumably being Aimar’s sons. His birth date range is estimated on the assumption that he and his brothers were young adults or adolescents when they witnessed this 920 charter. Seigneur de Bourbon. "Aymo" donated property "in paugo Alvernico in fundis Donobrens in accio Noviacense, vocabulum est Longo Verno" to Cluny by charter dated Nov 950, signed by "Eldesen…Arkambal, Gemmono, Ebono, Unbert, Elferico, item Aimono, Girber, Dummiono…"[10]. "Aymus" donated "ecclesiam…sancti Petri…in pago Arvernico, in vicaria Donobrense, in villa Salviniaco" to Cluny, with the consent of "uxore mea Aldesinde" and for the souls of "genitoris mei et genetricis meæ Ermengardæ et fratrum meorum Daceberti et Archimbaldi", by charter dated Jan 954 which refers to "cartam testamenti pater meus Aymardus", signed "apud castrum Borbonem" by "Aymonis et Aldesinde uxoris eius…Geraldi et Archimbaldi filiorum eius…"[11].
     "m ALDESINDE, daughter of ---. "Eldesen…Arkambal, Gemmono, Ebono, Unbert, Elferico, item Aimono, Girber, Dummiono…" signed the charter dated Nov 950 under which "Aymo" donated property "in paugo Alvernico in fundis Donobrens in accio Noviacense, vocabulum est Longo Verno" to Cluny[12]. "Aymus" donated "ecclesiam…sancti Petri…in pago Arvernico, in vicaria Donobrense, in villa Salviniaco" to Cluny, with the consent of "uxore mea Aldesinde", by charter dated Jan 954[13]."
Med Lands cites:

; Per Med Lands:
     "m ALDESINDE, daughter of ---. "Eldesen…Arkambal, Gemmono, Ebono, Unbert, Elferico, item Aimono, Girber, Dummiono…" signed the charter dated Nov 950 under which "Aymo" donated property "in paugo Alvernico in fundis Donobrens in accio Noviacense, vocabulum est Longo Verno" to Cluny[12]. "Aymus" donated "ecclesiam…sancti Petri…in pago Arvernico, in vicaria Donobrense, in villa Salviniaco" to Cluny, with the consent of "uxore mea Aldesinde", by charter dated Jan 954[13]."
Med Lands cites: Aldesinde de Bourbon was also known as Aldesinde/Arsende de Déols.¹

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 14:56.⁴ GAV-31 EDV-31.

     Guy (?) seigneur de Bourbon died circa 936.
     GAV-32 EDV-32.

     Adhémar/Aymar (?) seigneur de Souvigny married Hermengardis (?)^5,6,3
Adhémar/Aymar (?) seigneur de Souvigny was born circa 871.¹
Adhémar/Aymar (?) seigneur de Souvigny died after 921; Racines et Histoire (Bopurbon-ancien) says d. aft 921; Genealogics says d. bef 945; Med Lands says d. bef Jan. 954.^1,3,7
     GAV-32 EDV-32 GKJ-32.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIV 56.³ Adhémar/Aymar (?) seigneur de Souvigny was also known as Count Ademarus/Aimard (?)³

; Per Med Lands:
     "The origin of Aimar, earliest known ancestor of the first dynasty of seigneurs de Bourbon, is unknown. However, a spurious Carolingian descent was created for him in the late 17th century which has proved remarkably resistant and has found its way over the succeeding centuries into numerous secondary sources including Europäische Stammtafeln[1]. The fraudulent Bourbon documentation recalls the similar exercise relating to the purported Merovingian descent of the dukes of Aquitaine and Gascony, based on the so-called Alarcon charter which was fabricated around the same time (see the Introduction to GASCONY). The background to the creation of the fraudulent Bourbon documents is discussed fully by Chazaud who also publishes in full several of the spurious charters[2]. He traces their authorship to Frère André de Saint-Nicolas, prior of the Carmelite priory of Moulins, who also cooperated with Etienne Baluze in the compilation of documentation for the latter’s Histoire de la maison d’Auvergne published in 1708[3]. The documents were provided to Jean-Baptiste Goth Duc d’Epernon and Marquis de Rouillac. According to the first in the series of spurious charters, dated May 922, "Ademarus comes" (identified with Aimar, ancestor of the seigneurs de Bourbon) donated "Lisinias villa in pago Augustidense" to Cluny/Souvigny, for the souls of "senioris mei Nibilungi genitoris et Kunegundis genetricis", signed by "Haimonis, Erkimbaudi et Dagoberti filiorum eius, Rotberti ducis nepotis eius, Ugonis filii Rotberti…"[4]. "Nibilung" was no doubt intended to be a member of the Nibelung/Childebrand/Theoderic family (see CAROLINGIAN NOBILITY) but the fabrication is unconvincing as none of these names is found among the known descendants of Aimar. Another charter, dated 28 Apr 924, records another purported donation by "Ademarus comes" and names "Eckardi comitis avi mei…et Rodberti et Adelelmi quondam fratrum meorum…"[5]. A further charter, dated [945], records a purported donation by "Haimo dominus Borbonensis, filius Ademari comitis et Hermengardis comitissæ" and names "filiis nostris Geraldo, Archimbaldo, Haimone, Ebbone, Umberto et Anserico et filia nostra Aldesinda"[6]. No other primary sources have yet been identified which name the two supposed brothers of Aimar and the supposed four younger sons and daughter of Aimon [I]. They are therefore omitted from the genealogy which is presented below.
     "AIMAR (-before Jan 954). "Aymardus" donated "curtem Silviniaci" to Cluny by charter dated Mar 920, signed by "Emmonis, Archimbaldi, Dagberti, Aimonis, item Aimonis, et item Aimonis…"[7].
     "m ERMENGARDIS, daughter of --- (-before Jan 954). "Aymus" donated "ecclesiam…sancti Petri…in pago Arvernico, in vicaria Donobrense, in villa Salviniaco" to Cluny, for the souls of "genitoris mei et genetricis meæ Ermengardæ…", by charter dated Jan 954[8]."
Med Lands cites:

; Per Racines et Histoire (Bourbon-Ancien): “Adhémar (Aymar) ° ~ 871 + après 921 Viguier du châtel de Neuvre (Auvergne), seigneur de Souvigny puis Abbé de Cluny,
     ép. Ermengarde + 915 ”.^6,7

     Hermengardis (?) married Adhémar/Aymar (?) seigneur de Souvigny, son of Count Nivelung (?) and Kunigundis (?).^2,3,4

Hermengardis (?) died before January 945; Racines et Histoire (Bopurbon-ancien) says d. 915; Genealogics says d. bef 945; Med Lands says d. bef Jan. 954.^3,2,5
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "The origin of Aimar, earliest known ancestor of the first dynasty of seigneurs de Bourbon, is unknown. However, a spurious Carolingian descent was created for him in the late 17th century which has proved remarkably resistant and has found its way over the succeeding centuries into numerous secondary sources including Europäische Stammtafeln[1]. The fraudulent Bourbon documentation recalls the similar exercise relating to the purported Merovingian descent of the dukes of Aquitaine and Gascony, based on the so-called Alarcon charter which was fabricated around the same time (see the Introduction to GASCONY). The background to the creation of the fraudulent Bourbon documents is discussed fully by Chazaud who also publishes in full several of the spurious charters[2]. He traces their authorship to Frère André de Saint-Nicolas, prior of the Carmelite priory of Moulins, who also cooperated with Etienne Baluze in the compilation of documentation for the latter’s Histoire de la maison d’Auvergne published in 1708[3]. The documents were provided to Jean-Baptiste Goth Duc d’Epernon and Marquis de Rouillac. According to the first in the series of spurious charters, dated May 922, "Ademarus comes" (identified with Aimar, ancestor of the seigneurs de Bourbon) donated "Lisinias villa in pago Augustidense" to Cluny/Souvigny, for the souls of "senioris mei Nibilungi genitoris et Kunegundis genetricis", signed by "Haimonis, Erkimbaudi et Dagoberti filiorum eius, Rotberti ducis nepotis eius, Ugonis filii Rotberti…"[4]. "Nibilung" was no doubt intended to be a member of the Nibelung/Childebrand/Theoderic family (see CAROLINGIAN NOBILITY) but the fabrication is unconvincing as none of these names is found among the known descendants of Aimar. Another charter, dated 28 Apr 924, records another purported donation by "Ademarus comes" and names "Eckardi comitis avi mei…et Rodberti et Adelelmi quondam fratrum meorum…"[5]. A further charter, dated [945], records a purported donation by "Haimo dominus Borbonensis, filius Ademari comitis et Hermengardis comitissæ" and names "filiis nostris Geraldo, Archimbaldo, Haimone, Ebbone, Umberto et Anserico et filia nostra Aldesinda"[6]. No other primary sources have yet been identified which name the two supposed brothers of Aimar and the supposed four younger sons and daughter of Aimon [I]. They are therefore omitted from the genealogy which is presented below.
     "AIMAR (-before Jan 954). "Aymardus" donated "curtem Silviniaci" to Cluny by charter dated Mar 920, signed by "Emmonis, Archimbaldi, Dagberti, Aimonis, item Aimonis, et item Aimonis…"[7].
     "m ERMENGARDIS, daughter of --- (-before Jan 954). "Aymus" donated "ecclesiam…sancti Petri…in pago Arvernico, in vicaria Donobrense, in villa Salviniaco" to Cluny, for the souls of "genitoris mei et genetricis meæ Ermengardæ…", by charter dated Jan 954[8]."
Med Lands cites:

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIV 56.² Hermengardis (?) was also known as Ermengardis/Ermengarde (?)^6,5 GAV-32 EDV-32.

; Per Racines et Histoire (Bourbon-Ancien): “Adhémar (Aymar) ° ~ 871 + après 921 Viguier du châtel de Neuvre (Auvergne), seigneur de Souvigny puis Abbé de Cluny,
     ép. Ermengarde + 915 ”.^3,5