Joan/Jane de Neville1,2

F, #62071
FatherSir Ralph de Neville Knt., of Oversley, Warwickshire1,2,3 d. 26 Feb 1457/58
MotherLady Mary de Ferrers Lady of Oversley1,2 b. b 1394, d. 25 Jan 1457/58
Last Edited19 Oct 2008
     Joan/Jane de Neville married Sir Walter Griffith, son of Sir John Griffith Knt., of Wichnor, Staffs and Burton Agnes, Yorks and Catherine Tyrwhitt, on 6 November 1435
; his 1st wife.4,5,2
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Cahiers de Saint Louis Magazine. , Jacques Dupont, Jacques Saillot, Reference: 921.1 Joan/Jane de Neville was living in 1457.5

Family

Sir Walter Griffith b. c 1415, d. 9 Aug 1481

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Nevill: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00406515&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Gascoigne 11: p. 348. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Ralph Nevill: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013712&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Walter Griffith: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108614&tree=LEO
  5. [S1988] Jeff Chipman, "Chipman email 29 Oct 2005: "The 3 Walter Griffiths of Burton Agnes, East Riding of Yorkshire"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Chipman email 29 Oct 2005."

Sir Walter Griffith1

M, #62072, b. circa 1415, d. 9 August 1481
FatherSir John Griffith Knt., of Wichnor, Staffs and Burton Agnes, Yorks2 d. 20 Jun 1471
MotherCatherine Tyrwhitt3 d. 25 Jan 1457
Last Edited19 Oct 2008
     Sir Walter Griffith married Agnes Constable, daughter of Sir Robert Constable Knt., of Flamborough and Agnes Wentworth,
; his 2nd wife.4 Sir Walter Griffith was born circa 1415.3 He married Joan/Jane de Neville, daughter of Sir Ralph de Neville Knt., of Oversley, Warwickshire and Lady Mary de Ferrers Lady of Oversley, on 6 November 1435
; his 1st wife.1,3,5
Sir Walter Griffith died on 9 August 1481; buried in Burton Agnes.1
      ; SOME NOTES ON THE THREE WALTER GRIFFITHS OF BURTON AGNES, EAST RIDING
OF YORKSHIRE.




(A) Walter Griffith, b. ca. 1415, living 1457, d. --, son and heir of
Sir John Griffith of Wychnor, Staffordshire and his wife Catherine
Tyrwhitt, dau. of Robert Tyrwhitt; m. 6 Nov 1435 Jane Neville, living
1457, great great granddaughter of King Edward III by John of Gaunt,
via Gaunt's daughter Joan Beaufort, who m. (1) Sir Robert Ferrers
(see Note 1).

(B) Walter Griffith, knt., b. ca. 1437, d. 9 Aug 1481; m. (her first)
ca. 1463 Agnes Constable, the elder daughter of that name, b. ca. 1445,
daughter of Sir Robert Constable of Flamborough and his wife Agnes
Wentworth; Robert Constable and Agnes Wentworth m. ca. 1442 (see Note
2).

(C) Walter Griffith, knt., son and heir, said to have been knighted
1497 in Scotland by the Earl of Surrey, b. by 1472 (as indicated by the
IPM of his father, Sir Walter Griffith, dated 17 Jun 1493; I had
erroneously given his birthyear as 1460 in my www.rootsweb.com
"Skipwith" message board posts), d. 1531; m. Jane Ferrers, daughter
of Sir John Ferrers of Tamworth and Dorothy Harper his wife, daughter
of William Harper of Rushall (the website
www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/ff/ferrers2.htm says that "Anne
Ferrers m. Sir Walter Graffeth"); this Jane according to reasonable
chronology would have been b. ca. 1494, which, given the fact that Sir
Walter's son and heir, Sir George Griffith (who was knighted at
Calais in 1532 at age 21) was b. ca. 1511, seems credible, making Sir
Walter's wife about 17 when her son was born. However, the
identification of Jane Ferrers as the dau. of Sir John Ferrers of
Tamworth and Dorothy Harper his wife has been questioned.


(Note 1) The marriage of Walter Griffith and Jane Neville is
well-proved by a marriage indenture dated 23 Sep 1435 between Sir John
Griffith, father of Walter Griffith, who is his son and heir, and Joan,
countess of Westmorland (Joan Beaufort), grandmother of Jane Neville;
the marriage to take place on 6 Nov 1435.
This Sir John Griffith was b. ca. 1397, and d. 20 Jun 1471 (author of
manuscript "The Early Owners Of Burton Agnes" cites an IPM 11 Ed.
IV, No. 30 for him) and had children besides Walter, namely Margaret,
d. 28 Jan 1491, who m. (first) Robert Willoughby and (second) Sir Peter
Legh; Richardson mentions this woman in PA3; and a dau. Elizabeth
(Elsbeth) who m. Thomas ap Gruffud ap Nicolas and was thereby the
mother of Sir Rhys ap Thomas 1449-1525; but this man could not possibly
be the nephew of a man b. ca. 1472 as claimed on "The Boyntons of
England" website; he would be the nephew of Walter Griffith who m.
Jane Neville (see A above). I don't know how the birthyear of 1449
was fixed for this Sir Rhys ap Thomas, but there's no doubt that he
didn't m. Katherine Howard, as discussed below; apparently it was his
grandson.
Even though it is a proven fact that Sir John Griffith was the father
of (A) Walter, Sir John must have been for the times a very old man
when he died in 1471. I think these two daughters were younger than
(A) Walter, which is borne out by the birthyear of 1449 for
Elizabeth's (Elsbeth's) son Sir Rhys ap Thomas.
The manuscript cites the Pardon Roll of 1472 for Walter Griffith (A),
but I think the entry probably belongs to Walter (B). The Griffiths
were Lancastrians.
One record which definitely belongs to Walter (A) is that in 1457
Walter and Jane (or Joan) were granted "leave to have an oratory for
a year." Unfortunately I do not have this document, so I do not know
if it refers to Walter as a knight; Richardson does not claim
knighthood for this man in PA3 or MCA.

(Note 2) The IPM quoted in No. B above proves that this Sir Walter
Griffith d. 9 Aug 1481 had a brother Rhys Griffith, Esq., (said by an
undocumented internet source to have been b. ca. 1441; he d. 1489
according to the IPM); he had a daughter Joan, b. ca. 1471 (in my
Rootsweb posts I stated "b. ca. 1467" which is an error; the error
resulted from not calculating "9 Hen. VII" correctly; the same IPM
states that "Joan wife of Leo Dymok, aged 22 and more, is his [Rhys]
daughter and heir"; of Lionel Dymoke, d. 1519, it is recorded that
there is a brass of him on the north wall of St. Mary Church in
Horncastle, Lincs. Wearing armor as the King's champion; beneath this
is another brass representing Sir Lionel in his shroud.) The death
date on the Burton Agnes tomb of Sir Walter Griffith is 9 Aug 1481, and
the death date of the Sir Walter Griffith in the Lincs. IPM quoted
above was also 9 Aug 1481. This makes it easy to say they were the
same person, and thus Rhys Griffith, Esq. was also of the Burton Agnes
family.
In connection with the marriage of Gervase Clifton Jr. and Agnes
Griffith, we have the following from a2a under "Bower Family of
Welham, cat. DDBR, Marriage settlement relating to the manors of Cressy
Hall and Downhall in Claypole-ref. DDBR/7/1-date 18 Dec. 1482
Parties: 1) Gervase Clifton, esquire 2) his son Gervase, junior, and
Angnes Griffith, daughter of Sir Walter Griffith, deceased Property:
manors of Cressy Hall and Bownhall in Claypole with all appurtenances
(excepting the advowson there and from the manor of Bownhall, 4 boates
of land and desmesne meadow in tenure of William Standart) Witnesses:
John Stanhope, Thomas Thurland, Hugh Annysley, Humphrey Hercy, esquire,
John Carleton of Claypole, John Coddington of Claypole, John Parker of
Claypole, given at Claypole."
This proves that Gervase Clifton Sr. was not knighted as of 18 Dec
1482, some sixteen months after the death of Sir Walter Griffith, and
that Sir Walter Griffith had a daughter Agnes who m. Gervase Clifton
Jr., and that Gervase Jr. was not knighted as of the same date as his
father; this daughter Agnes Griffith (who I estimate to have been b.
ca. 1464, and thus some years older than her brother Walter) was the
daughter of Sir Walter Griffith and his wife Agnes Constable; she was
not, however, their only child, as witness below.
The website
www.boyntons.us/yorkshire/people/lineage/collier/06early.html has an
article entitled "The Early Owners Of Burton Agnes," which, in
spite of some error, does much to straighten out the account of this
Griffith family (unfortunately, although some references of good
quality are provided, the author is unknown). It cites Agnes
(Constable) Griffith's will (Test Ebor. IV, 242) as naming Sir Walter
Griffith her son; this Sir Walter (who d. 1531) requested in his will
to be buried in the new chapel annexed to the Church of St. Martin in
Burton Agnes "where my ladie, my moder lieth."
Of any other children of Sir Walter and Agnes (Constable) Griffith, I
have only the claim by Roger Hailwood (see below) that gen. C Sir
Walter Griffith b. 1472 had a nephew, Sir Rees ap Thomas, KG, who m.
1590 Katherine Howard, dau. of Thomas Howard, Duke of Norfolk; this is
quite a feat considering that that Sir Rees was beheaded in 1531;
according to Howard family data, Thomas Howard, 2nd Duke of Norfolk,
and his second wife Agnes Tilney had a dau. Katherine b. ca. 1499 who
m. Sir Rhys ap Griffith ap Fitzuryon Rhys, b. ca. 1500 and d. 1531;
this man was the son of Sir Griffith ap Rhys, knt. and Catherine St.
John; evidently Sir Griffith ap Rhys was the son of Elsbeth Griffith,
dau. of Sir John, as noted above, and this is the connection to the
Griffiths of Burton Agnes.

(Note 3) I do not know who put together the website "The Boyntons of
England," (www.pluvoy.com/enboynton.html) but they should reformat
their hard drive and start over; by their own admission they didn't
know if their data was correct, and it reprints an article by Roger
Hailwood which seems to be a regurgitation of some plan of the
Victorian restoration of St. Martin's; I will leave it up to others
to judge the efficacy of that.
>From gen. (C) Sir Walter Griffith onwards the pedigrees in various
places and forms agree that it continues as shown in primogeniture:
Sir George Griffith, b. ca. 1511, d. 1559; m. Elizabeth
Skevington
Sir Walter Griffith; m. Catherine Blount
Sir Henry Griffith, b. 1558, d. 1620; m. ca. 1583 Elizabeth
Throckmorton, dau. of Thomas Throckmorton
Sir Henry Griffith, bart., b. 1603, d. 1654, last of the
Burton Agnes Griffiths; at his death the estate passed
to his nephew, a son of Sir Mathew and Frances
(Griffith) Boynton; m. (first) Mary Willoughby (second)
Dorothy Bellingham; no issue by either wife
Doubtless more about these wives above could be learned, but as from
gen. (C) onward the line has no particular significance for me, I will
leave it to others to flesh it out, and just append this record from
a2a (although it may already have been posted to SGM):
"St. Quintin of Harpham collection Catalogue Ref. MD229 Creators:
St. Quintin family of Harpham, Burton Agnes, East Riding of Yorkshire
Deeds Deeds relating to Harpham MD229/45a-date 15 July 1514 By Ralph
Bigod, Walter Griffith, John Constable and John Normanville, knights,
to John Santqwytyn esq, son and heir of John Santqwytyn esq, of all of
the lands they had of the grant of his father."
I appended this because it shows the association of familiar Burton
Agnes names.

On chronological grounds alone, it is weird that two brothers (Walter &
Rhys) allegedly both had their heirs when they were in their 50s, and
this in the 15th century. Of course, this did happen sometimes, but
seeing it twice should setoff an alarm.

However, I do have facts to work with to support the data above:

1.     Walter Griffith, knt., d. 9 Aug 1481 had a brother Rhys Griffith,
esq., who d. 1489.
2.     There is no doubt that the Walter above was buried at Burton Agnes
church, East Riding of Yorkshire.
3.     Walter who d. 1481 was married to Agnes Constable when he died.
4.     Sir John Griffith, d. 20 Jun 1471, was the father of the Walter
Griffith who m. Jane Neville in 1435; this Walter was his son and heir,
and Walter's wife Jane was living in 1457.
5.     Sir John Griffith above did not have a son Rhys, just Walter and two
daughters.

Therefore, we have two Walter Griffiths who have been misidentified as
one person. That Sir John Griffith did not have a son Rhys proves that
the Walter d. 1481 who did have a brother Rhys cannot be the Walter who
was the son of Sir John Griffith; or, put differently, the Walter
Griffith who m. Jane Neville, and the Sir Walter Griffith who m. Agnes
Constable are not the same person. This kind of error happens all the
time. Names run in families and are given to men for several
generations in sequence. The only people to claim that Walters A & B
are the same person are the people with "The Boyntons of England"
website referenced above.

So, who were the parents of Sir Walter Griffith d. 1481 and Rhys
Griffith Esq. d. 1489?

There is no doubt that Sir Henry Griffith, d. 1620 (and from whom
Thynne the herald received his information) was the father of Sir Henry
Griffith, bart., d. 1654; Sir Henry Griffith the baronet was the last
Griffith to hold Burton Agnes, which then passed to a son of his sister
Frances who had m. Sir Mathew Boynton.

There is no disagreement that (B) Sir Walter Griffith d. 1481 and Agnes
Constable his wife were the parents of (C) Sir Walter Griffith; that
(B) Sir Walter was the brother of Rhys Griffith Esq. d. 1489 is well
proved. We know from the marriage contract between Sir John Griffith
and Joan Beaufort that the Walter (who is not named as a knight in that
document, although he could have been knighted later, but I have no
record at hand showing that he was knighted) who m. Jane Neville was
Sir John Griffith's son and heir. Sir John Griffith did not have any
other sons, so the "ownership" of the manor of Burton Agnes would
pass in the male line from this Walter. Thus it is shown that (B)
Walter must have been the son and heir of (A) Walter, as (B) Walter
held Burton Agnes, and is credited with restoring the Norman manor
house and installing the 15th century roof. As mentioned before, (B)
Walter had a younger brother Rhys Griffith d. 1489, so Rhys must have
been a son of (A) Walter as well. (A) Walter's wife Jane Neville was
living in 1457, so there is no doubt as to who was the mother of (B)
Walter and Rhys. If (A) Walter had no children, the manor would have
passed to a sister (of which he had two) as heiress; this did not
happen; and if he had no son, it would have passed to one of his
daughters, although we have no record of any daughters.

One other possibility exists, that Sir Walter d. 1481 and Rhys d. 1489
were both sons of Sir John Griffith and Catherine Tyrwhitt. This would
mean that Jane (Neville) Griffith d. without known issue. Agnes
(Constable) Griffith was b. ca. 1445 and m. ca. 1463; she would have
thus been some 30 years younger than her putative husband. Of Sir John
Griffith d. 1471, having researched him in depth I can find no evidence
that he ever had a son named Rhys. If he did, Rhys would have to have
been a younger, if not the youngest child, and even so would have been
close to 50 when he had his heir, Joan (Griffith) Dymoke.
In connection with this are some notes made 10 Jan 1948 by The Society
of London Antiquaries following previous notes of 1 Aug 1604 by Francis
Thynne, Lancaster herald, regarding the pedigree of Griffith of Burton
Agnes as it existed at that time:
"Still lower on the pedigree is a drawing of the tomb of Sir Walter
Griffith I (ob. 1481) shewing on the end the two shields described by
Collier, viz. (1) Neville quartering Boteler of Wem; and (2) Somerville
and Griffyth quarterly with Merlay in pretence."
This is a much earlier depiction of the tomb than exists today. Jane
Neville's father Sir Ralph Neville d. 26 Feb 1457/8. Jane's
brother John d. 17 Mar 1481/2 with issue. The Neville arms quartering
Boteler of Wem are for Elizabeth, dau. of William le Boteler, 3rd Lord
Boteler of Wem; Elizabeth m. Robert de Ferrers, knt. of Willisham,
Suffolk, and was the mother of Sir Robert Ferrers, first husband of
Joan Beaufort, dau. of John of Gaunt. This display does not seem to
signify that Neville m. the occupant of the tomb, but rather that the
occupant was a descendant of the families represented by the arms; it
thus appears that this Sir Walter Griffith was the son of Jane Neville,
and that Shield (1) represents his mother's family and Shield (2) his
father's. There is no representation of the arms of Constable of
Flamborough on this tomb; in any case this Sir Walter's wife Agnes
Constable was not an heiress, although she did bear him two known
children. I am not an expert in heraldry; this is my interpretation of
the display.
Again, I must point to the fact that Sir John Griffith who d. 1471 did
not have a son named Rhys, although Sir John was the son of a Rhys.

NB: The "ownership" chain of Burton Agnes was as follows:
Previously held by the Stutevilles, it passed to Roger de Merlay who
had two daughters (thus the Merlay in pretence); his dau.Isabel m.
Robert de Somerville of Wychnor, Staffs; Sir Philip de Somerville had
a dau. Joan who m. Rhys ap Griffith, and they were the common ancestors
of the Griffith family of Burton Agnes.

If there are errors here they are my own.


Jeff Chipman
10/28/05.3

; Leo van de Pas cites: Cahiers de Saint Louis Magazine. , Jacques Dupont, Jacques Saillot, Reference: 921.1

; The "tabula obituum" for the Griffith family which John Higgins kindly posted from Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica, 1 (1868): 64, was originally made by the "second Walter Griffith knight" in the year, 1511. This account is not taken from any monument found in the church of Burton Agnes, Yorkshire. Rather, the record is taken from Harleian Manuscripts 1077, f. 94 a. This same material was used by Rev. Stebbing Shaw for his account of the Griffith family in his useful work, History & Antiquities of Staffordshire, 1 (1791), which he carefully indicates on pg. 123, footnote 2.

Given that the material was assembled by Sir Walter Griffith II, son and heir of Sir Walter Griffith I (died 1481) and his wife, Agnes
Constable, I believe the information should be quite accurate as to Sir Walter Griffith II's parents and grandparents.

We find that Sir Walter Griffith II plainly indicates that his father, Sir Walter Griffith I, was married twice, first to Joan, and second to Agnes Constable. He likewise states that his father who he calls "primi Walter Griffith militis" was the son and heir of John Griffith, Knt., by his wife, Catherine Tirwhit. He specifically states that his father, Walter Griffith I, is buried in a tomb in the church of Burton Agnes, Yorkshire with Joan "his other wife" ["altera vxore sua"].

On the basis of such excellent evidence as provided by this document, I conclude that Sir Walter Griffith I (died 1481) was the son and heir of John Griffith, Knt., by Katherine Tirwhit. I also conclude that Sir Walter Griffith I had two wives, Joan (or Jane) Neville and Agnes Constable. Sir Walter Griffith I had his son and heir, Walter II, by his second wife, Agnes Constable.

For those interested in such matters, the Latin word "tabula" has any of the following meanings:

writing tablet (wax covered board); records (pl.); document, deed, will; list; plank/board, flat piece of wood; door panel; counting/playing/notice board; picture, painting; wood panel for painting; metal/stone tablet/panel w/text .

In this instance, I would think that "tabula obituum" would best be translated as "List of Deaths" rather than as "tablet."

Lastly, it appears that the 1511 tabula obituum is the same source that Rev. Stebbing Shaw used to identify Walter Griffith II's ancestress, Margaret la Zouche, as the daughter of "Nicholas Zouch, of Codnor." We see from John Higgins' posting, however, that the original tabula obituum merely refers to Margaret's father as "N. Zouch," with no indication of his residence. Presumably the initial "N." was employed to indicate that the given name of Margaret's father was unknown.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: www.royalancestry.net


"John Higgins" wrote:
> > Brad Verity mentioned in an earlier post (excerpted at the end of this) that
> > one of the sources cited by a website referenced by Jeff Chipman on the
> > Griffiths of Burton Agnes was an article in "Miscellanea Genealogica et
> > Heraldica". During a library visit today, I was able to get a copy of the
> > referenced article and have transcribed it below, with a few comments of
> > mine added at the end.
> >
> > The article, such as it is, appears in MGH [original series, 1:64] under the
> > heading "Griffith" without any explanation or introduction at all, just the
> > Latin text which follows. It appears, however, to be a transcription of a
> > tablet, presumably in the church at Burton Agnes, apparently commissioned in
> > 1511 by Sir Walter Griffith to commemorate his ancestors. If this is in
> > fact valid (despite its uncertain provenance), it's lot closer to being
> > "contemporary" than some of the other sources that have been cited here.
> >
> > The Latin text follows (hopefully I haven't introduced any NEW errors of
> > transcription!):
> >
> > Obitus et propagtiones antecessorum secundi Walteri Griffith militis qui
> > hanc tabulam fier fecit 26° die Septembria A° d'ni 1511 A° 3° Henrici 8.
> >
> > A° 29 Ed. 3. Obitus Philippi se Someruile militis qui habuit exitum
> > Johannam filiam et heredem quae nupta cuidam Reso ap griffith milit 23° die
> > Januarij A° regni regia Ed. 3. 29°.
> >
> > A° 30 Ed. 3. Obitus predicti Resi ap Griffith militis qui cum supradicta
> > Johanna habuit exitum Resum Griffith secundum qui obijt decimo die Maij A°
> > dni 1356 et sepultus est in Abbathia de Pollesworth vel Prioratu apud
> > Caermarden in Wallis.
> >
> > A° 1 R. 2. Obitus supradictae Johannae uxoris predicta Resi filiae et
> > heredis antedictae Philippi Someruile militis 8° die Octobris A° 1376 quae
> > obijt apud Stokton sed vbi sepelitur nescio.
> >
> > A° 4 R. 2. Obitus secundui Resi Griffith militis filij et heredis predicti
> > Resi et Johannae qui habuit exitum com Margareta filia N. Zouch Thomam
> > Grifith in festo Sti Augustini Anglorum ep'I A° 1380 et sepultus est apud
> > Polesworth predicta.
> >
> > A° 22 R. 2. Obitus Thomae Griffith armigeri filij et heredis predicti Resi
> > et Margaretae qui habuit exitum cum Anna vxore sua filia Thome Blount
> > militis Johannem Griffith in fest Cathedrae Sancti Petri A° 1431 et sepultus
> > est apud Allrewasse canteria beatae Mariae virginis ibidem.
> >
> > A° 11 Ed. 4. Obitus Johannis Griffith milits filij et heredis Thomae et
> > Annae qui habuit exitum cum Catherina vxore sua filia Roberti Tirwhit milits
> > Walterus Griffith 20 die Junij A° et ambo sepeliuntur in medio chori
> > ecclesiae de Tatentill.
> >
> > [undated] Obitus predictae Catherinae vxoris dicti Johannis Griffith in
> > festo connerstonis Sancti Pauli A° 1457.
> >
> > A° 21 Ed. 4. Obitus primi Walter Griffth militis filij et heredis predicti
> > Johannis et Catherinae qui habuit exitum cum Agnete vxore sua filia Roberti
> > Constable de fflamburghe in com. Eboraci militis secundum Walterum Griffith
> > in vegilia Sancti Laurentij A° 1481 et sepultus est cum Johanna altera vxore
> > sua in ecclesia de Annaburton sub magna tumbla coram altare beatae Mariae
> > ibidem.
> >
> > A° 21 H. 7. Obitus predictae dnae Agnetis vxoris dicti Walteri 23° die
> > Januarij A° 1505 et sepulta est in media nave Capellae ex parte borialj
> > ecclesiae de Annaburton predicta.
> >
> > [end of transcrition from MGH]
> >
> > As I read this, the line of descent to Sir Walter Griffith, living 1511, is
> > as follows in simple outline:
> >
> > Sir Philip Somerville
> >
> > Joan Somerville, m. Sir Rhys Griffith [I]
> >
> > Sir Rhys Griffith [II] m. Margaret Zouche
> >
> > Sir Thomas Griffith, m. Anne Blount
> >
> > Sir John Griffith, m. Anne Tyrwhit
> >
> > Sir Walter Griffith [I], m. (2) Agnes Constable
> >
> > Sir Walter Griffith [II]
> >
> > It's interesting to note that the tablet twice mentions the Sir Walter
> > Griffith living in 1511 as the "second" Sir Walter, not the third as the
> > proposed argument based on heraldry would imply. Also the tablet is quite
> > specific about the two wives of the first Sir Walter, and it may well also
> > be the source of future information about the specific locations of the
> > burials within the church at Burton Agnes.
> >
> > Obviously it would be desirable to have more information on this tablet and
> > its history (I wonder if it still exists?). The MGH article was published in
> > 1866 (or so) and thus pre-dates the Victorian "restoration" of the church at
> > Burton Agnes, (which I understood from earlier posts to be about 1892) so it
> > might well describe a tablet existing at that time (and possibly lost
> > later). In any event, it is definitely an interesting peice of the
> > puzzle....6

Family 1

Agnes Constable b. c 1445

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Walter Griffith: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108614&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Griffith: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00136179&tree=LEO
  3. [S1988] Jeff Chipman, "Chipman email 29 Oct 2005: "The 3 Walter Griffiths of Burton Agnes, East Riding of Yorkshire"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Chipman email 29 Oct 2005."
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes Constable: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00136180&tree=LEO
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Gascoigne 11: p. 348. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  6. [S1999] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 16 Oct 2005: "The 1511 tabula obituum of Sir Walter Griffith II"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 Nov 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 9 Nov 2005."

Clarembaud de Rosoy1

M, #62073, d. before 1158
Last Edited13 Jun 2020
     Clarembaud de Rosoy married Béatrice (?) de Namur, daughter of Godfrey/Godefroid (?) Comte de Namur et de Comte de Château-Porcien and Ermesinde (?) Gräfin von Luxemburg, Heiress of Longwy, before 1131
;
Her 2nd husband ??; Genealogy.EU mentions this marriage, but Genealogics and Med Lands do not.1
Clarembaud de Rosoy died before 1158.1
     ; Per Racines et Histoire (Rethel): “Gervais de Rethel ° ~1075/82 + avant 1124 Archevêque de Reims puis comte de Rethel (1118)
     ép. 1120/22 Elisabeth de Namur ° 1092 (fille de Godefroi 1er, comte de Namur, et de Sibylle de Château-Porcien ; ép. 2) avant 1131 Clarambaud ou Clérembaud de Rosoy ° ~1100 + 1141 ou 1158 ?)”


Per Racines et Histoire (Namur): “1) Elisabeth de Namur ° 1092
     ép. 1) ~1087 Gervais de Rethel ° 1075/80 + 1124 comte de Rethel (fils d’Hugues 1er, comte de Rethel, et de Mélisende de Montlhéry)
     ép. 2) avant 1131 Clarembaud de Rosoy + avant 1158”.1,2

Family

Béatrice (?) de Namur b. a 1101, d. 1160

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Namur, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Namur.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Rethel, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Rethel.pdf

Agnes Constable1

F, #62074, b. circa 1445
FatherSir Robert Constable Knt., of Flamborough2,3 b. 1423, d. 22 Nov 1501
MotherAgnes Wentworth2 b. c 1420, d. 1450
Last Edited26 Dec 2012
     Agnes Constable married Sir Walter Griffith, son of Sir John Griffith Knt., of Wichnor, Staffs and Burton Agnes, Yorks and Catherine Tyrwhitt,
; his 2nd wife.1 Agnes Constable married Sir Gervase Clifton of Clifton, son of Sir Robert Clifton Knt., of Clifton, co. Nottingham and Alice Bouth,
; his 2nd wife.4 Agnes Constable was born circa 1445.2
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Cahiers de Saint Louis Magazine. , Jacques Dupont, Jacques Saillot, Reference: 921.1

Family 1

Sir Gervase Clifton of Clifton d. 12 May 1491

Family 2

Sir Walter Griffith b. c 1415, d. 9 Aug 1481

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes Constable: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00136180&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1988] Jeff Chipman, "Chipman email 29 Oct 2005: "The 3 Walter Griffiths of Burton Agnes, East Riding of Yorkshire"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Chipman email 29 Oct 2005."
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Robert Constable, of Flamborough: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198992&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Gervase Clifton, of Clifton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00089506&tree=LEO

Orgeuilleuse de Fresnel-Harim1

F, #62075, d. after March 1175
Last Edited15 Jul 2009
     Orgeuilleuse de Fresnel-Harim married Bohemund III "the Stutterer" (?) de Poitiers, Prince of Antioch, son of Raimund (?) de Poitiers, Prince of Antiochia and Constance de Hauteville Pss of Antioch, Lady of Laodicea and Gibel, between 1168 and 1170
; his 1st wife; Leo van de Pas says m. 1168; Poitou 2 page says m. 1168/70; Rudt-Collenberg says m. 1170.1,2,3,4,5 Orgeuilleuse de Fresnel-Harim and Bohemund III "the Stutterer" (?) de Poitiers, Prince of Antioch were divorced circa 1175; "perhaps divorvced."3,5,6
Orgeuilleuse de Fresnel-Harim died after March 1175; Leo van de Pas says d. 1175; Poitou 2 page says d. aft III.1175.1,3,6
      ; Leo van de pas cites: The Rupenides,Hethumides and Lusignans, Structure of the Armeno-Cilician dynast. Paris, 1963., W.H. Rudt-Collenberg, Reference: VI (A.)1 Orgeuilleuse de Fresnel-Harim was also known as Orgeuilleuse de Fresnel-Harenc.4 Orgeuilleuse de Fresnel-Harim was also known as Orgueilleuse d'Harenc.3,6

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Orgeuilleuse de Fresnel-Harim: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064425&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Boemund III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020910&tree=LEO
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Poitou 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/poitou/poitou2.html
  4. [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, The Rupenides, Hethumides and Lusignans: The Structure of the Armeno-Cilician Dynasties (11, Rude de Lille, Paris 7e, France: Librairie C. Klincksieck for the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation Armenian Library (Lisbon), 1963), Chart A (R1): Relationship Table XII - XIII Century. Hereinafter cited as Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc.
  5. [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc., Chart VII (C): The House of the Kings of Cyprus.
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Antioche.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raymond of Antiochia: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00295178&tree=LEO
  8. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Antioche.pdf, p. 6.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Boemond IV: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064423&tree=LEO

Sybille (?)1

F, #62076, d. 1216
Last Edited15 Jul 2009
     Sybille (?) married Bohemund III "the Stutterer" (?) de Poitiers, Prince of Antioch, son of Raimund (?) de Poitiers, Prince of Antiochia and Constance de Hauteville Pss of Antioch, Lady of Laodicea and Gibel, in 1181
; his 3rd wife; Leo van de Pas says m. 1194; Poitou 2 page says m. 1181.1,2,3,4 Sybille (?) and Bohemund III "the Stutterer" (?) de Poitiers, Prince of Antioch were divorced in 1199; "probably divorvced"; Rudt-Collenberg says div. 1194.2,3,4
Sybille (?) died in 1216.1,3,4
      ; Rudt-Collenberg calls her "Sybille, noble Lady of Antiochia, sister-in-law of the Lord of Burzey."3

; Leo van de Pas cites: The Rupenides,Hethumides and Lusignans, Structure of the Armeno-Cilician dynast. Paris, 1963., W.H. Rudt-Collenberg, Reference: VI (A.)1

; Racines et Histoire says "belle-soeur du seigneur de Burzey, réputée espionne de Saladin chez les Francs."4

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sybille: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092027&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Poitou 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/poitou/poitou2.html
  3. [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, The Rupenides, Hethumides and Lusignans: The Structure of the Armeno-Cilician Dynasties (11, Rude de Lille, Paris 7e, France: Librairie C. Klincksieck for the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation Armenian Library (Lisbon), 1963), Chart VII (C): The House of the Kings of Cyprus. Hereinafter cited as Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc.
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Antioche.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alix of Antiochia: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092029&tree=LEO
  6. [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc., Chart X (G): The House of Gibelet-Embriaco.
  7. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Antioche.pdf, p. 6.

Maria Embriaco de Gibelet1,2,3,4

F, #62077, d. 4 September 1331
FatherGuy II Embriaco "Ibelin" (?) Lord of Gibelet2,3,4 d. 1278
MotherMarguerite of Sidon (?)2,5,3,4 d. b 1289
Last Edited30 Sep 2004
     Maria Embriaco de Gibelet married Philippe d'Ibelin Seneschal of Cyprus and Jerusalem, Regent of Cyprus, son of Guy d'Ibelin Marshal and Constable of Cyprus and Philippa Berlais, on 1 September 1295.1,6,7,2,3,8,4

Maria Embriaco de Gibelet died on 4 September 1331 at Nicosia, Cyprus.1,2
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Nachkommen Gorms des Alten 1978. , S. Otto Brenner, Reference: 856.1

Family

Philippe d'Ibelin Seneschal of Cyprus and Jerusalem, Regent of Cyprus d. 25 Feb 1318
Children

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maria Gibelet: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092018&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Giblet page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/giblet.html
  3. [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, The Rupenides, Hethumides and Lusignans: The Structure of the Armeno-Cilician Dynasties (11, Rude de Lille, Paris 7e, France: Librairie C. Klincksieck for the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation Armenian Library (Lisbon), 1963), Chart IIIa (H 3): The "Armenized Ibelin and Sidon. Hereinafter cited as Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc.
  4. [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc., Chart X (G): The House of Gibelet-Embriaco.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Sidon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092033&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Philippe Ibelin: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092017&tree=LEO
  7. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Ibelin page (d'Ibelin Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/ibelin.html
  8. [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc., Chart XI (I.): The House of Ibelin.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy Ibelin: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00093456&tree=LEO
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heloise Ibelin: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092016&tree=LEO

Henri I (?) Comte de Durbuy1,2

M, #62078, d. circa 1097
FatherAlbert II (?) Comte de Namur, Vogt von Andenne1,2 b. c 1000, d. bt 1063 - 1064
MotherRegilindis (?) of Lorraine1,3,2 b. c 1015, d. 1064
Last Edited30 Jul 2004
     Henri I (?) Comte de Durbuy died circa 1097 at Palestine.2
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 68.1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Count Henri I de Durbuy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00148734&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 2 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg2.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Regelindis de Lorraine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027131&tree=LEO

Saint Kunigunde (?) von Luxembourg1,2,3

F, #62080, b. circa 975, d. 3 March 1033
FatherSiegfried (?) Graf 'von Luxemburg'1,2,3,4,5,6 b. c 919, d. 15 Aug 998
MotherHedwig (?) Countess of Luxembourg1,3,5,7,8 b. c 937, d. 13 Dec 992
Last Edited23 Aug 2020
     Saint Kunigunde (?) von Luxembourg was born circa 975.1,2 She married Saint Heinrich II 'der Heilige' (?) Holy Roman Emperor, Duke of Bavaria, son of Heinrich II "der Zanker" (?) Duke of Bavaria and Gisela (?) de Bourgogne, Duchess of Bavaria, between 996 and 997
; Genealogy.EU (Luxemburg 3 page) says m. 999.1,9,2,3
Saint Kunigunde (?) von Luxembourg died on 3 March 1033 at Kaufungen, Germany (now).1,2,3
      ; Leo van de pas cites: 1. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 3
2. Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 174.1

; Canonized.10

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Kunigunde von Luxemburg: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00080218&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Liudolfer page (Liudolfing): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/german/liudolfer.html
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 3 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg3.html
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Siegfried: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00091997&tree=LEO
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LUXEMBOURG.htm#Sigefroidied998. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/siegf000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hadwig: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00091998&tree=LEO
  8. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/hedwi000.htm
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heinrich II 'der Heilige': http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00080217&tree=LEO
  10. [S1454] Catholic Encyclopedia on the New Advent Website of Catholic Resources, online http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/, St. Henry II: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07227a.htm. Hereinafter cited as Catholic Encyclopedia.

Emma de Segur Heiress of Ségur1

F, #62081, d. after 1025
Last Edited6 Mar 2004
     Emma de Segur Heiress of Ségur married Gui I (?) Vicomte de Limoges, son of Géraud (?) vicomte de Limoges and Rothilde (?) de Brosse.1

Emma de Segur Heiress of Ségur died after 1025.1
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 773.1

Family

Gui I (?) Vicomte de Limoges b. c 949, d. 27 Oct 1025
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Emma de Ségur: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196993&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adémar I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196994&tree=LEO

Adémar II (?) Vicomte de Limoges1

M, #62082
FatherAdémar I (?) Vicomte de Limoges et de Ségur1 b. c 989, d. 12 Aug 1036
MotherSenegundis d'Aunay1
Last Edited6 Mar 2004
     Adémar II (?) Vicomte de Limoges married Humberge (?) d'Angoulême, daughter of Geoffroi I Taillefer (?) Comte d'Angouleme and Peronelle d'Archaic Dame d'Archiac et de Bouteville, in 1030.2

      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 773.1 Adémar II (?) Vicomte de Limoges was living in 1030.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adémar II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196976&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Humberge d'Angoulême: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196977&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marie de Limoges: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196975&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adémar III 'le Barbu': http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00048756&tree=LEO

Alduin I (Audouin) (?) Comte d'Angoulême1,2

M, #62083, b. circa 860, d. 27 March 916
FatherVulgrin I (?) Comte d'Angoulême et de Perigord3,4,5,6,7 b. bt 830 - 832, d. 3 May 886
MotherRegelindis (Roselinde) (?) de Septimanie, comtesse d'Agen8,5,6 b. 842, d. bt 896 - 901
ReferenceGAV30
Last Edited24 Sep 2020
     Alduin I (Audouin) (?) Comte d'Angoulême was born circa 860.5
Alduin I (Audouin) (?) Comte d'Angoulême died on 27 March 916.2,9,5,6
      ; Per Racines et Histoire: "Alduin 1er (Audouin) d’Angoulême + 27/03/916 comte d’Angoulême (886) ép. ?"6

; Per Wikipedia:
     "Alduin (or Hildouin) I (died 27 March 916) was the Count of Angoulême from 886.
     "He was the son of Wulgrin I, Count of Angoulême, whom he succeeded on 3 May 886. Like his father, he was charged with defending parts of Aquitaine against the Viking invaders.
     "Alduin's wife is unknown, but with her he had a son:
** William II of Angoulême, a.k.a., William Taillefer I (926 – 945), Count of Angoulême.[1]

References
1. William Copeland Borlase (1888). The Descent, Name and Arms of Borlase of Borlase in the County of Cornwall. G. Bell & Sons. p. 13.
Sources
** http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cousin/html/
** Histoire P@ssion (in French): http://www.histoirepassion.eu/?839-1696-Chronologie-historique-des-Comtes-d-Angouleme#Alduin1."10

; Per Genealogics:
     "Alduin I was the elder son of Vulgrin I, comte d'Angoulême, and Regelindis d'Autun. His younger brother was Guillaume I, comte de Perigueux. By an unknown wife he had a son Guillaume II who would have progeny.
     "Alduin fought the Vikings invading Aquitaine, and to that end in 886 he extended the city ramparts of Angoulême. He was said to be in possession of a splinter of wood from the True Cross which his father had received from the abbey of Charroux as a Christian symbol inspiring victory in the struggle against the Vikings. The monks demanded the return of this relic from Alduin, who refused. He suffered a serious illness and his followers began to roam like wolves through the land on the hunt for human flesh. He had a golden reliquary shrine built by his son Guillaume who brought it to Charroux, whereupon the curse came to an end.
     "Alduin died on 27 March 917, and was buried in the abbey of Saint-Cybard. Because Guillaume was still a minor at Alduin's death, Adémar, who was probably Alduin's brother-in-law, took over the rule in Angoulême."5

; Per Med Lands:
     "ALDUIN [Audouin] [I] (-27 Mar 916, bur Angoulême Saint-Cybard). The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes names "Alduinus et Villelmus" as the two sons of Vulgrin, in a later passage recording that Alduin inherited Angoulême[457]. The Historia Pontificum et Comitum Engolismensis names “Aldouino quidem Engolismam, Guillermo vero et Agennum” as the sons of “Vulgrinus”[458]. A recital (undated) of two miracles attributed to relics conserved in the abbey of Charroux names "Audoinus filius Vulgrinni" as count of Angoulême[459]. He succeeded his father in 886 as Comte d'Angoulême. The Historia Pontificum et Comitum Engolismensis records that “Aldouinus Engolismensis comes” undertook the restoration of “muros civitatis Engolismæ”[460]. The death "VI Kal Apr 916" of "Ilduinus comes" is recorded in the Annales Engolismenses[461]. The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes records that "Vulgrimni filius eius Alduinus" lived thirty years after succeeding his father, and in a later passage his death "VI Kal Apr" and his burial next to his father[462]. The Historia Pontificum et Comitum Engolismensis records the death “VI Kal Apr” of “Alduinus” and his burial next to his father[463].
     "m ---. The name of Alduin's wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
[457] Adémar de Chabannes III, 19 and 20, pp. 137 and 138.
[458] Historia Pontificum et Comitum Engolismensis, XIV, p. 20.
[459] Charroux, p. 48.
[460] Historia Pontificum et Comitum Engolismensis, XV, p. 20.
[461] Annales Engolismenses, MGH SS IV, p. 5.
[462] Adémar de Chabannes III, 23, pp. 143 and 145.
[463] Historia Pontificum et Comitum Engolismensis, XVI, p. 21.11


Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 817.5 GAV-30. He was Comte de Angouleme in 886.6

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alduin I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140007&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Vulgrin I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140009&tree=LEO-
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ANGOULEME.htm#Vulgrinusdied886. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alduin I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140007&tree=LEO
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’ Angoulême, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf
  7. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maisons de la Marche & de Périgord &Talleyrand-Périgord, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/La_Marche-Perigord.pdf
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Regelindis d'Autun: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140010&tree=LEO
  9. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/La_Marche-Perigord.pdf, p.5.
  10. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alduin_I_of_Angoul%C3%AAme. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  11. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ANGOULEME.htm#_Toc518630911
  12. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.3.
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II Taillefer: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140003&tree=LEO
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Vulgrin I (?) Comte d'Angoulême et de Perigord1,2

M, #62084, b. between 830 and 832, d. 3 May 886
FatherVulfard (?) Comte de Flavigny2,3,4,5,6,7
MotherSusanna (?) of Paris2,3,4,5,8,9,10 b. bt 805 - 810
ReferenceGAV31 EDV31
Last Edited26 Aug 2020
     Vulgrin I (?) Comte d'Angoulême et de Perigord was born between 830 and 832.4,11 He married Regelindis (Roselinde) (?) de Septimanie, comtesse d'Agen, daughter of Bernard/Bernhard (?) Comte d'Autun, Marquis de Septimanie, comte dde Barcelona and Dhuoda/Doda (?) de Gascogne, between 860 and 863.12,4,13,11

Vulgrin I (?) Comte d'Angoulême et de Perigord died on 3 May 886.2,12,3,4
Vulgrin I (?) Comte d'Angoulême et de Perigord was buried after 3 May 886 at St. Cybard, Angoulême, Departement de la Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France.4
      ; Per Genealogics:
     "Vulgrin I was a count of Angoulême, Agen, Périgord and probably the Saintonge. He was also the progenitor of the house of Taillefer. He came from the highest Frankish nobility. His parents were the _Comes_ Wulfhard and Susanna of Paris, a daughter of Bego, count of Paris, and Alpais de France. His brothers included Hilduin, abbot of Saint-Denis, and count Palatine Adalhard, one of the most prominent governors for the West Frankish king Charles 'the Bald'. His nephew was Wulfhard, abbot of Flavigny, and his niece Adelheid later married Louis II 'the Stammerer', king of West-France.
     "Thanks to these family connections Vulgrin was appointed as Count in the Aquitaine counties of Angoumois and Périgord, after Count Emenon had fallen there in 866. Emenon was previously one of the main supporters of King Pippin II, deposed by his uncle Charles 'the Bald' and thereafter a source of unrest against Charles. One of Vulgrin's most important tasks at that time was to fight the Vikings who had invaded Aquitaine, against whom he embarked on a large castle building program.
     "With his wife Regelindis d'Autun, daughter of Bernard, comte d'Autun, margrave of Septimania, and his wife Dhuoda, Vilgrin had two sons, Alfuin I and Guillaume I, who would both have progeny.
     "Vulgrin died on 3 May 886, and was buried at the abbey of Saint-Cybard in Angoulême."4

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 817.4

; Per Wikipedia:
     "Wulgrin (or Vulgrin, Woulgrin) I (c. 830 – 3 May 886) was the Count of Angoulême, Périgueux, and possible Saintonge from 866 to his death. His parents were Vulfard (Wulfard), Count of Flavigny, and Suzanne, who was a daughter of the Bego I, Count of Paris. His brother Hilduin the Young was the abbot of Saint-Denis. Another brother was Adalard of Paris. Ademar of Chabannes is the chief source on his active reign in preserving and moulding Angoulême.
     "Although a foreigner, Charles the Bald placed him at the head of the counties of the Angoumois and Périgord. He was installed in 866 to end local disorder and stop the Viking incursions. He was the last example in Western Francia of the royal will imposing its preferred administrator on a region, indicating the decline in the power of central administration in the divisions of the former Empire following the Treaty of Verdun.
     "Between 869 and 878, he built many castles, to defend against the Vikings, and experienced some success limiting their movements in Aquitaine. He appointed a viscount named Ranulf over the fortress called Matas and another named Giselbert over Maurillac.
     "Wulgrin married Regelindis (Roselinde), a daughter of Bernard of Septimania. Their children were:
** Alduin (d. 916), Count of Angoulême
** William I (d. 920), Count of Périgord and Agen
** Sancha (?), m. Adémar, Count of Angoulême

Sources
** Lewis, Archibald R. The Development of Southern French and Catalan Society, 718–1050. University of Texas Press: Austin, 1965.
** Cawley, Charles, Medieval Lands Project, Chapter 3, Comtes d'Angoulême, Medieval Lands database, Foundation for Medieval Genealogy,[self-published source][better source needed]
** Histoire P@ssion - Chronologie historique des Comtes d’Angoulême (in French)
** The Descent, Name and Arms of Borlase of Borlase in the County of Cornwall by William Copeland Borlase, Page 13"


Per Wikipédia (Fr.)"
     "Vulgrin Ier, qui vécut au ixe siècle, est le premier comte héréditaire de l'Angoumois (comtes d’Angoulême) de 866 à sa mort, en 886. Ce comté reste dans sa descendance, la famille Taillefer, pendant près de 450 ans.
Biographie
     "Il est le fils de Vulfard, comte de Flavigny et de Suzanne, fille de Bégon de Paris1.
     "Son frère Hilduin est abbé de Saint-Denis de 814 à 840.
     "Bien qu'étranger au pays, Vulgrin est placé en 866 à la tête des comtés d'Angoumois et de Périgord, auxquels s'ajoute peu après l'Agenais, par Charles le Chauve dont il est un proche parent2. Il y reste jusqu'en 886, date de sa mort.
     "Il avait été nommé, d'après la Chronique d'Adémar de Chabannes, pour remédier aux désordres locaux et contenir les Vikings. Dès 868, il fait reconstruire les remparts d'Angoulême3. Il fait aussi édifier, selon la tradition, les châteaux de Marcillac et de Matha contre les Vikings, installés dans la basse Charente, pour leur barrer la route de terre vers le comté d'Angoulême2.
     "Il épouse Regelinde, sœur de Guillaume de Toulouse, fille de Bernard de Septimanie et de son épouse Dhuoda, qui lui apporte en dot le comté d'Agen. Dernier exemple d'une volonté royale imposant un administrateur à une région, il transmet ses titres et les biens qui en relèvent à ses enfants.
     "Il eut au moins deux fils :
** Audoin ou Alduin, comte d'Angoulême (886-916)
** Guillaume, comte de Périgord (886-920).

     "et une fille :
** Sénégonde4, épouse du vicomte Ramnoul, d'origine franque, installé dans le château de Marcillac par le comte Vulgrin, son beau-père.

     "Cette branche aînée s'éteint vers 975.
Notes et références
1. Vulgrin 1er sur le site de la Fondation pour la généalogie médiévale [archive]
2. André Debord in La Charente de la Préhistoire à nos jours, p. 87
3. La société laïque dans les pays de la Charente Xe-XIIe s, p. 62
4. La société laïque dans les pays de la Charente Xe-XIIe s, p. 78
Voir aussi
** Liste des comtes d'Angoulême
** Liste des comtes de Périgord
Bibliographie
** André Debord, La société laïque dans les pays de la Charente xe-xiie s., Picard, 1984, 585 p. (ISBN 2-7084-0112-2, présentation en ligne [archive]) Document utilisé pour la rédaction de l’article
** Jean Combes (dir.) et Michel Luc (dir.), La Charente de la Préhistoire à nos jours (ouvrage collectif), St-Jean-d'Y, Imprimerie Bordessoules, coll. « L'histoire par les documents », 1986, 429 p. (ISBN 2-903504-21-0, notice BnF no FRBNF34901024, présentation en ligne [archive]) Document utilisé pour la rédaction de l’article
** Jean Nanglard, Cartulaire de l'église d'Angoulême, t. IX, Bulletins et mémoires de la Société archéologique et historique de la Charente, imprimerie G.Chasseignac, 1899 (1re éd. 1180), 296 p. (lire en ligne [archive])
** Annales Engolimenses, MGH, Scriptores, t. IV, p. 5
** Adémar de Chabannes, Chronique, publiée par J. Chavanon, Paris, Picard, 1897
** Bulletin de la Société historique et archéologique du Périgord, 1970, p. 119, 1979 p. 244
** BSHAP 1970, Tarde p. 46
** BSHAP 1970, Favier p. 743
** BSHAP 1970, Charet p. 190
** BSHAP 1970, Grelière p. 22
Liens externes
** (en) Medieval Lands : Comtes de Périgord [archive]."14,15

; Per Med Lands:
     "VULGRIN, son of VULFARD Comte de Flavigny [443] & his wife Susanna de Paris (-3 May 886, bur Angoulême Saint-Cybard). The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes records that Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks installed "Vulgrimnum propinquum suum, fratrem Aldoini abbatis ex monasterio Sancti Dionisi" with "Engolisme et Petragorice" after Comte Emenon was killed (in 866), commenting that Vulgrin had been missus in Aquitaine for "Carlo magno imperatore fratre eius" and was already "senex" when appointed to Angoulême[444], although this is inconsistent with his parents' marriage date. Vulgrin's relationship with the Carolingian kings was through his mother. The Chronicle of Saint-Maxence records that King Charles II installed "Vulgrinum propinquum suum, fratrem Aldoini abbatis ex monasterio Sancti Dionysii" with "Engolismæ et Petragoricæ" after the death of Emenon Comte de Poitou[445]. Comte d’Agen: the Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes records that "Vulgrimnus" inherited "Aginnum...urbem" through "sororem Willelmi Tolosani" whom he had married[446]. He was installed as Comte d'Angoulême, Comte de Périgord in 866. His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 2 Nov 889 under which "Vulfardus" donated property to Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire for the souls of "genitoris mei Vulfardi et genetrice mea Susannane necnon et germanorum fratrum meorum Adelardo, Vulgrino, Ymo et sorore mee Hildeburga vel nepote meo Vulgrino"[447]. The Historia Pontificum et Comitum Engolismensis records that “Vulgrinus” built “castellum Mastacium et Marcilliacum” as part of his strategy against Viking attacks and sent “in Marcilliaco Robertum, legis doctum, et amicum Rannulfum”, making the latter “vicecomitem”[448]. Sénemaud dates the construction of the castle to 866, but does not specify the basis for this statement[449]. The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes records the death "V Non Mai" of "Vulgrimno" and his burial "iuxta basilicam Sancti Eparchii"[450]. The death in 886 of "Vulgrimnus comes" is recorded in the Annales Engolismenses[451].
     "m ---. The name of Vulgrin’s wife is not known. The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes records that "Vulgrimnus" inherited "Aginnum...urbem" through "sororem Willelmi Tolosani" whom he had married[452]. The identity of "Willelmi Tolosani" is unclear. The Histoire Générale de Languedoc speculates that he was Guillaume Comte de Bordeaux (whom it refers to as comte de Toulouse), son of Bernard Marquis de Septimanie and his wife Dhuoda[453]. If this is correct, she was ---, daughter of Bernard Comte d'Autun, Marquis de Septimanie [Toulouse] & his wife Dhuoda --- ([842/44]-). However, this proposed origin seems far from certain as this Guillaume, if he was indeed comte de Toulouse, could only have ruled the town briefly. In addition, it seems strange that the relationship with her more illustrious (or notorious) father, Bernard, would not have been used in the source to place the wife of Vulgrin, if she had been the daughter of Bernard. If she was the daughter of Bernard and Doda, she must have been born in [842/44] as the Manual of Dhuoda states that their second son Bernard was his mother's second child[454]. The editors of the third edition of the Histoire Générale de Languedoc suggest that the passage in Adhémar de Chabannes refers "probablement [à] Guillaume comte de Bordeaux"[455]. If that is correct, she was ---, probably daughter of Bertrand Comte [de Bazas] & his wife Berta ---. Jaurgain suggests that this suggestion is correct, on the basis that Guillaume was the son of “Bertrand comte de Bazas et d’Agen” and therefore entitled to pass Agen to his brother-in-law[456]. Unfortunately, he cites no source which confirms that Bertrand was “comte d’Agen”, nor any source which confirms beyond doubt the co-identity between Bertrand’s son Guillaume and Guillaume Comte [de Bordeaux, [Duke of Gascony]. However, this second hypothesis has some appeal. If it is correct, Vulgrin’s wife must have been considerable earlier than any daughter of Bernard Marquis de Septimanie, which is more consistent with Vulgrin being described as “senex” when he was appointed to Angoulême (see above). The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified.
     "Comte Vulgrin [I] & his wife had four children."
Med Lands cites:
[443] J. C. Chuat, in a private email to the author dated 13 Jun 2007.
[444] Adémar de Chabannes III, 19, p. 137.
[445] Chronicon sancti Maxentii Pictavensis, Chroniques des Eglises d'Anjou, p. 369.
[446] Adémar de Chabannes III, 19, p. 137.
[447] Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire XXXI, p. 85.
[448] Historia Pontificum et Comitum Engolismensis, XIV, p. 20.
[449] Sénemaud, E. ‘Principauté de Marcillac – notice et chartes’, Bulletin de la Société archéologique et historique de la Charente, Année 1860, 3e série, Tome 2 (Angoulême, 1862), p. 249 (no source citation).
[450] Adémar de Chabannes III, 20, p. 138.
[451] Annales Engolismenses, MGH SS IV, p. 5.
[452] Adémar de Chabannes III, 19, p. 137.
[453] Devic, Dom C. & Dom Vaissete (1840-42) Histoire Générale de Languedoc 2nd Edn. (Toulouse), Tome II, p. 413.
[454] Manuel de Dhuoda, Introduction, 5, p. 52.
[455] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome II, p. 301 footnote 3.
[456] Jaurgain, J. de (1898) La Vasconie, étude historique et critique, première partie (Pau), pp. 381-2.5
GAV-31 EDV-31 GKJ-32. Vulgrin I (?) Comte d'Angoulême et de Perigord was also known as Vulgrinus (?)9 He was Count of the Palace to Charles II the Bald.12 Vulgrin I (?) Comte d'Angoulême et de Perigord was also known as Vulgrin (?) Count of Agen, Angouleme & Perigord.

; Per Racines et Histoire:
     (Périgord) "Vulgrin + 03/05/886 investi par Charles II «Le Chauve» des comtés d’Angoulême et de Périgord à la mort d’Emenon (866) (cité charte 02/11/889 donation à Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire en mémoire de ses parents) ép. ?"
     (Angoulême) "Wulgrin 1er ° ~830 + 03/05/886 «missus» en Aquitaine, investi par Charles II «Le Chauve» des comtés d’Angoulême, Périgueux et Agen à la mort d’Emenon (866) (cité charte 02/11/889 donation (ou confirmation d’une donation de Vulfard ?) à Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire, en mémoire de ses parents)
ép. 860/63 Sancie (alias Regelindis, Roselinde) de Septimanie, comtesse d’Agen ° ~842 (fille de Bernard, comte de Septimanie à Toulouse, et de Dhuoda de Gascogne ; soeur de Guillaume) (citée et ° dès 842/44.)16,11" He was comte d'Angouleme et de Perigord between 866 and 866.3,14

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Vulgrin I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140009&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
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  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ANGOULEME.htm#Vulgrinusdied886. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm
  7. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Wulfhard: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/wulfh000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  8. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Susanna: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/susan001.htm
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Vulgrinus: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036210&tree=LEO
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Susanna of Paris: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036207&tree=LEO
  11. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’ Angoulême, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf
  12. [S737] Compiler Don Charles Stone, Some Ancient and Medieval Descents (n.p.: Ancient and Medieval Descents Project
    2401 Pennsylvania Ave., #9B-2B
    Philadelphia, PA 19130-3034
    Tel: 215-232-6259
    e-mail address
    or e-mail address
    copyright 1995, 1998, 1999, 2000, unknown publish date), Chart 72-4.
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Regelindis d'Autun: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140010&tree=LEO
  14. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wulgrin_I_of_Angoul%C3%AAme. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  15. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Vulgrin Ier d'Angoulême: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulgrin_Ier_d%27Angoul%C3%AAme. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
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  19. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, AQUITAINE, DUKES - COMTES de POITOU [828]-902 (FAMILY of EMENON): http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AQUITAINE.htm#Bernarddied844
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  21. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alduin I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140007&tree=LEO

Marie (?) des Cars1

F, #62085, d. after 1124
Last Edited25 Jun 2020
     Marie (?) des Cars married Adémar III 'le Barbu' (?) de Limoges, Vicomte de Segur, son of Adémar II (?) Vicomte de Limoges and Humberge (?) d'Angoulême.1,2

Marie (?) des Cars died after 1124.1
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 773.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marie des Cars: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00208032&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adémar III 'le Barbu': http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00048756&tree=LEO
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  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Emma de Limoges: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00048754&tree=LEO
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Bardon de Cognac Seigneur de Cognac1,2

M, #62086, d. before 1136
Last Edited14 Jul 2020
     Bardon de Cognac Seigneur de Cognac married Emma (?) de Limoges, daughter of Adémar III 'le Barbu' (?) de Limoges, Vicomte de Segur and Marie (?) des Cars,
;
Her 1st husband.1,3,4,5
Bardon de Cognac Seigneur de Cognac died before 1136.2
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "EMMA de Limoges . The Chronicon Gaufredi Vosiensis names "aliam filiam [Ademari]…Ennoa (seu Emma)" stating that she married "Guillermus Dux, frater Raymundi Antiochiæ principis" after the death of her earlier husband "Bardoni de Coniaco", before being abducted by "Willelmus Sector-ferri, filius Wlgrini Comitis Engolismensis"[782]. It is not certain that Emma was the daughter of Vicomte Adémar [III] by his second marriage. However, if Vicomte Adémar's first wife was a member of the family of the comtes d'Angoûleme (as speculated above), it is unlikely that she would have been Emma's mother, in view of Emma's third marriage. "Emma comitissa, uxor comitis Engolismensis, filia Ademari vicecomitis Lemovicensis" donated property "ripas stagni de Chalamans" to Notre-Dame de Dalon by undated charter[783]. The primary sources which confirm her first two marriages have not so far been identified.
     "m firstly BARDON de Cognac, son of HELIE [II] de Chambarot Seigneur de Cognac & his wife --- (-before 1136).
     "m secondly (1136) as his second wife, GUILLAUME X Duke of Aquitaine [GUILLAUME VIII Comte de Poitou], son of GUILLAUME IX Duke of Aquitaine, GUILLAUME VII Comte de Poitou & his wife Philippa [Mathilde] de Toulouse (1099-Santiago de Compostela 9 Apr 1137, bur Santiago de Compostela).
     "m thirdly (after 1137) as his first wife, GUILLAUME d'Angoulême, son of VULGRIN II Comte d'Angoulême & his first wife Pontia de La Marche (-Messina 7 Aug 1179, bur Messina). He succeeded his father in 1140 as GUILLAUME VI "Taillefer" Comte d'Angoulême."
Med Lands cites:
[782] Ex Chronico Gaufredi Vosiensis, 41, RHGF XII, p. 425.
[783] Dalon Notre-Dame 870, p. 210.5


; Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III/4 818.6

; Per Med Lands:
     "BARDON de Cognac (-before 1136). "Bardo, Cosniaci dominus, filius Helyæ Chambarot" donated property "in Burgo S. Leodegarii" to the priory of Saint-Léger de Cognac by undated charter[1162]. Seigneur de Cognac. "Bardo, dominus de Cogniaco" donated property to the abbey of Fontdouce, undated, triggering a dispute with the priory of Saint-Léger de Cognac[1163]. The Historia Pontificum et Comitum Engolismensis names "Ardoinum seu Audouinum de Berbezillo, Ademarum de Archiaco, Bardouinum de Coniaco" among the enemies of Guillaume [V] Comte d’Angoulême (so dated to late 11th/early 12th centuries)[1164]. The Historia Pontificum et Comitum Engolismensis records that "Iterio de Villaboe, Bardone de Coniaco, Gaufredo de Rancono, Hugone Bruno de Leziniaco" defended the castle of Montignac-Charente, besieged by Vulgrin II Comte d’Angoulême (dated to [1120/35])[1165].
     "m as her first husband, EMMA de Limoges, daughter of ADEMAR [II] Vicomte de Limoges & his [second wife Marie des Cars]. The Chronicon Gaufredi Vosiensis names "aliam filiam [Ademari]…Ennoa (seu Emma)" stating that she married "Guillermus Dux, frater Raymundi Antiochiæ principis" after the death of her earlier husband "Bardoni de Coniaco", before being abducted by "Willelmus Sector-ferri, filius Wlgrini Comitis Engolismensis"[1166]. "Emma comitissa, uxor comitis Engolismensis, filia Ademari vicecomitis Lemovicensis" donated property "ripas stagni de Chalamans" to Notre-Dame de Dalon by undated charter[1167]. She married secondly (1136) as his second wife Guillaume X Duke of Aquitaine [Guillaume VIII Comte de Poitou], and thirdly (after 1137) as his first wife, Guillaume d'Angoulême, who later succeeded his father as Guillaume [VI] Talafer Comte d'Angoulême."
Med Lands cites:
[1162] Marvaud (1870), Tome I, p. 58, quoting Ex cartul. S. Leodeg. Cogn, Mss. de Dom Estiennot, "folio II : Prob. folio 412".
[1163] Marvaud (1870), Tome I, p. 60, quoting Mss. de Dom Estiennot (no page reference).
[1164] Historia Pontificum et Comitum Engolismensis, XXXIV, p. 40.
[1165] Historia Pontificum et Comitum Engolismensis, XXXV, p. 47.
[1166] Ex Chronico Gaufredi Vosiensis, 41, RHGF XII, p. 425.
[1167] Dalon Notre-Dame 870, p. 210.2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bardon de Cognac: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00048755&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ANGOULEME.htm#BardonCognacdiedbefore1136. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Emma de Limoges: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00048754&tree=LEO
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMOUSIN.htm#EmmaLimogesM2GuillaumeVIIIPoitou
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bardon de Cognac: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00048755&tree=LEO

Elisabeth d'Amboise1,2

F, #62087, b. between 1153 and 1160, d. before 1212
FatherHugues III d'Amboise Sire d'Amboise, Seigneur de Jaligny3,2,4 b. c 1135, d. bt 1190 - 1194
MotherMathilde (?) de Vendôme5,2 b. 1139, d. 9 Feb 1199
Last Edited16 Apr 2009
     Elisabeth d'Amboise married Vulgrin/Wulgram III Taillefer (?) Comte d'Angoulême & La Marche, son of Guillaume VI Taillefer (?) Comte d'Angoulême and Marguerite de Turenne.1,6,2
Elisabeth d'Amboise was born between 1153 and 1160.4
Elisabeth d'Amboise died before 1212.1,2,4
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 818; XIII 1.1

Family

Vulgrin/Wulgram III Taillefer (?) Comte d'Angoulême & La Marche b. c 1152, d. b 29 Jun 1181
Child

Ebles I (?) Vicomte de Ventadour1,2

M, #62088
FatherArchambaud II de Turenne Vcte de Comborn2,3,1 d. b 1038
MotherRotburga (?) de Rochechouart1,2,4
Last Edited23 Oct 2004
     Ebles I (?) Vicomte de Ventadour married Marie (?) de Limoges, daughter of Adémar II (?) Vicomte de Limoges and Humberge (?) d'Angoulême,
; his 1st wife.1,2 Ebles I (?) Vicomte de Ventadour married Almodie (?) de Montberon.2

      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 765.1 Ebles I (?) Vicomte de Ventadour was living in 1020.1

Family 1

Almodie (?) de Montberon

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ebles I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196974&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Toulouse 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/toulouse/toul2.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Archambaud II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139558&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rotberge de Rochechouart: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139559&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ebles II 'le Chanteur': http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196971&tree=LEO

Ebles II 'le Chanteur' (?) Vicomte de Ventadour1,2

M, #62089
FatherEbles I (?) Vicomte de Ventadour1,2
MotherMarie (?) de Limoges1
Last Edited24 Jun 2020
     Ebles II 'le Chanteur' (?) Vicomte de Ventadour married Agnes (?) de Montlucon.3,2

      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 765.1 Ebles II 'le Chanteur' (?) Vicomte de Ventadour was living in 1059.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ebles II 'le Chanteur': http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196971&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Toulouse 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/toulouse/toul2.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Montlucon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196972&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ebles III: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139547&tree=LEO
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMOUSIN.htm#EblesIIIVentadourdied1170. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Agnes (?) de Montlucon1

F, #62090
Last Edited24 Jun 2020
     Agnes (?) de Montlucon married Ebles II 'le Chanteur' (?) Vicomte de Ventadour, son of Ebles I (?) Vicomte de Ventadour and Marie (?) de Limoges.1,2

      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 765.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Montlucon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196972&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Toulouse 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/toulouse/toul2.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ebles III: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139547&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMOUSIN.htm#EblesIIIVentadourdied1170. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Bernard I de Brosse1

M, #62091
FatherAdémar I (?) Vicomte de Limoges et de Ségur1 b. c 989, d. 12 Aug 1036
MotherSenegundis d'Aunay1
Last Edited6 Mar 2004
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 773, 774.1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bernard I de Brosse: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00208033&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Geraud IV: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00208035&tree=LEO

Geraud IV (?) Vicomte de Brosse1

M, #62092, d. before 1154
FatherBernard I de Brosse1
Last Edited6 Mar 2004
     Geraud IV (?) Vicomte de Brosse married Agnes de Lieras.2

Geraud IV (?) Vicomte de Brosse died before 1154.1
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 774.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Geraud IV: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00208035&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnès de Lieras: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00208036&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bernard II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00208037&tree=LEO

Pastoresse (?)1

F, #62093
Last Edited6 Mar 2004
     Pastoresse (?) married Bernard II (?) Vicomte de Brosse, Vicomte de Bridiers, son of Geraud IV (?) Vicomte de Brosse and Agnes de Lieras.1

      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 774.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Pastoresse: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00208038&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bernard III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00208039&tree=LEO

Adelmodis (?) d'Angoulême1,2

F, #62094
FatherGuillaume VI Taillefer (?) Comte d'Angoulême1,2,3 b. c 1115, d. 7 Aug 1179
MotherMarguerite de Turenne1,4,2 b. bt 1120 - 1130, d. a 1201
Last Edited4 Sep 2020
     Adelmodis (?) d'Angoulême married Amanieu IV d'Albret Seigneur d'Albret, son of Bernard Aiz III d'Albret Seigneur d'Albret and NN de Béarn, before 1171
;
Her 1st husband.1,2,5 Adelmodis (?) d'Angoulême married Bernard III (?) Vcte de Brosse, son of Bernard II (?) Vicomte de Brosse, Vicomte de Bridiers and Pastoresse (?), between 1186 and 1191
;
Her 2nd husband; his 1st wife.1,6,2
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 151; 818.1

; Per Racines et Histoire (Angoulême): “2) Almodis (Adelmonis) d’Angoulême + 1171/80 (citée charte 1171)
     ép. 1) avant 1171 Amanieu IV, seigneur d’Albret fl 1175 (fils de Bernard Aiz III, seigneur d’Albret, et de ? de Béarn)
     ép. 2) avant 1186/91 Bernard III, vicomte de Brosse fl 1193 + ~1198”.2

; Per Genealogy.EU (Albret 1): “A1. Amanieu IV, Sire d'Albret; m.Adelmodis, dau.of Cte Guillaume IV d'Angouleme”.7 Adelmodis (?) d'Angoulême was living in 1171.1

Family 1

Amanieu IV d'Albret Seigneur d'Albret
Child

Family 2

Bernard III (?) Vcte de Brosse b. 1170, d. 1193

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelmodis d'Angoulême: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139429&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’ Angoulême, p.6: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume VI Taillefer: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00033522&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Turenne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00033523&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sire Amanieu IV d'Albret: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139428&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bernard III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00208039&tree=LEO
  7. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Albret 1 page (The Family of d'Albret): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/foix/albret1.html
  8. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/gascatlan.htm#AmanieuIVAlbretdied1175. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Amanieu IV d'Albret Seigneur d'Albret1,2,3

M, #62095
FatherBernard Aiz III d'Albret Seigneur d'Albret4,5,3,6 d. b 1164
MotherNN de Béarn5,4,3,7
Last Edited4 Sep 2020
     Amanieu IV d'Albret Seigneur d'Albret married Adelmodis (?) d'Angoulême, daughter of Guillaume VI Taillefer (?) Comte d'Angoulême and Marguerite de Turenne, before 1171
;
Her 1st husband.8,5,3
      ; Per Racines et Histoire (Angoulême): “2) Almodis (Adelmonis) d’Angoulême + 1171/80 (citée charte 1171)
     ép. 1) avant 1171 Amanieu IV, seigneur d’Albret fl 1175 (fils de Bernard Aiz III, seigneur d’Albret, et de ? de Béarn)
     ép. 2) avant 1186/91 Bernard III, vicomte de Brosse fl 1193 + ~1198”.5

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 151.3

; Per Genealogy.EU (Albret 1): “A1. Amanieu IV, Sire d'Albret; m.Adelmodis, dau.of Cte Guillaume IV d'Angouleme”.4 Amanieu IV d'Albret Seigneur d'Albret was living in 1150.3 He was living in 1175.1

Family

Adelmodis (?) d'Angoulême
Child

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.6. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/gascatlan.htm#AmanieuIVAlbretdied1175. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sire Amanieu IV d'Albret: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139428&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Albret 1 page (The Family of d'Albret): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/foix/albret1.html
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’ Angoulême, p.6: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sire Bernard Aiz III d'Albret: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139426&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN de Béarn: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139427&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelmodis d'Angoulême: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139429&tree=LEO

Ricaire/Richoara de Salornay1,2

F, #62096, d. after 1091
FatherRoclenus de Salornay2
MotherTesla (?)2
ReferenceEDV30
Last Edited8 Nov 2020
     Ricaire/Richoara de Salornay married Guichard II (?) Sire de Beaujeu, son of Guichard I (?) Sire de Beaujeu and Adélaïde (?).3,2,4

Ricaire/Richoara de Salornay died after 1091.4
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XI 156.4 EDV-30.

; Per Med Lands:
     "GUICHARD [III], son of GUICHARD [II] [Seigneur de Beaujeu] & his wife Adelaide --- (-after 31 Mar 1070). "Wichardus" donated property "in loco…Rocam in villa Quinciaco" to Cluny by charter dated 1020, subscribed by "Adeledis uxoris eius, Wichardi filii eius"[600]. His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated to [1031/60] under which "Wicardus veniens de Bellijoco" donated property to Saint-Vincent-de-Mâcon "recordans peccata…pater suus Wicardus", subscribed by "Ricoarie uxoris eius ac filii eorum Humberti, Hugonis avunculi eius"[601].
     "m RICHOARA [de Salornay, daughter of ROCLENUS & his wife Testa ---]. Guichenon names the wife of Guichard [III] as Richoara de Salornay, although the editor of the 1874 edition says that this is not certain in the absence of any document which proves her parentage[602]. "Wichardus miles de Bellojoco" donated property "in comitatu Matisconensi in villa Brurericus in agro Biliaco" to Saint-Vincent-de-Mâcon by charter dated to [1031/62] subscribed by "uxoris eius Ricoare et filiorum eius Humberti, Guichardi et Dalmacii"[603]. "Ricoarie uxoris eius ac filii eorum Humberti, Hugonis avunculi eius" subscribed the charter dated to [1031/60] under which "Wicardus veniens de Bellijoco" donated property to Saint-Vincent-de-Mâcon "recordans peccata…pater suus Wicardus"[604]. She is named with her husband and sons in charters dated to [1031/60]. Richoara donated the church of Vitry to Cluny for the souls of "patris mee Rocleni et matris mee Tedce et sponsi mei domni Wichardi" by charter dated [1055] subscribed by "Joceranni Rufi, Wichardi, Umberti, Wichardi, Dalmatii, Gaumarii, Petri"[605]. By a second charter dated [1055] "Richoara uxor Wichardi de Bellojoco" donated the church of Vitry with the consent of "viro meo Wichardo et filiis meis Humberto et Dalmatio et filiabus meis" to Cluny, which confirms that after the death of Richoara "Lebaldus de Igonia gener eius" was obliged to accept this donation to settle a dispute with the abbey[606]."
Med Lands cites:
[600] Cluny, Tome III, 2728, p. 751.
[601] Mâcon Saint-Vincent 476, p. 274.
[602] Guichenon (Dombes) (1874) I, Livre III, p. 168, footnote 2.
[603] Mâcon Saint-Vincent 483, p. 279.
[604] Mâcon Saint-Vincent 476, p. 274.
[605] Cluny, Tome IV, 3350, p. 446.
[606] Cluny, Tome IV, 3351, p. 447.2


; Per Genealogy.EU: "C1. Guichard II, sn de Beaujeu, +after III.1070; m.Riconaire de Salornay."5 She was living in 1091.4

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ricaire de Salornay: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106261&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#GuichardIIBeaujeuB. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guichard II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106260&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ricaire de Salornay: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106260&tree=LEO
  5. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Sires de Beaujeu: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/beaujeu1.html
  6. [S3] Unknown subject, (no date), PA State Library, Vertical Family Files, Harrisburg, Dauphin Co., Pennsylvania, USA, Humbert II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106076&tree=LEO
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#HumbertIIBeaujeudied1102
  8. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#WandelmodeBeaujeuMGuillaumeIIILyonForez

Guichard II (?) Sire de Beaujeu1

M, #62097, d. after 31 March 1070
FatherGuichard I (?) Sire de Beaujeu2,5,6,4 d. bt 1031 - 1050
MotherAdélaïde (?)2,3,4 d. a 1050
Last Edited29 Oct 2020
     Guichard II (?) Sire de Beaujeu married Ricaire/Richoara de Salornay, daughter of Roclenus de Salornay and Tesla (?).7,4,8

Guichard II (?) Sire de Beaujeu died after 31 March 1070.7,4
     ; See attached chart from Wikipédia (Fr.) for the de Beaujeu family.9

; Per Wikipédia (Fr.):
     "Guichard II de Beaujeu1 est le premier fils de Guichard Ier de Beaujeu (949-1016) et d'Adélaïde.
Biographie
     "D'après certain historiens[Qui ?], il aurait fondé l'église de Saint Nicolas[Où ?].
     "Vers 10502, il se voit inféodé de la seigneurie de Saint-Trivier-en-Dombes (Saint-Trivier-sur-Moignans) d'Eustache, comte de Forez et à la même époque2 il se voit donné la seigneurie de Beauregard, démembrée de celle de Riottiers (Jassans-Riottier), d'Artaud-le-Blanc, vicomte de Mâcon.
Descendance
     "Il épouse Ricoaire de Salornay, dont il a :
** Humbert II de Beaujeu († 1102) qui lui succède ;
** Guichard de Beaujeu ;
** Dalmace ou Dalmais ;
** Hugues ;
** Une fille mariée à Liébaut, seigneur de Digoine comme la charte de Vitry[Lequel ?] le prouve.
Références
1. Mémoires pour servir a l’histoire de Dombes, Tome I. sur Google Livres, pages 232-233.
2. Claude Guigue, Topographie historique du département de l'Ain, Bourg-en-Bresse, Gromier Ainé, 1873 (lire en ligne [archive]), p. XXXVIII."10

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XI 156.7 Guichard II (?) Sire de Beaujeu was also known as Guichard II de Beaujeu Seigneur de Beaujeu.5

; Per Genealogy.EU: "C1. Guichard II, sn de Beaujeu, +after III.1070; m.Riconaire de Salornay."11

; Per Med Lands:
     "GUICHARD [III], son of GUICHARD [II] [Seigneur de Beaujeu] & his wife Adelaide --- (-after 31 Mar 1070). "Wichardus" donated property "in loco…Rocam in villa Quinciaco" to Cluny by charter dated 1020, subscribed by "Adeledis uxoris eius, Wichardi filii eius"[600]. His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated to [1031/60] under which "Wicardus veniens de Bellijoco" donated property to Saint-Vincent-de-Mâcon "recordans peccata…pater suus Wicardus", subscribed by "Ricoarie uxoris eius ac filii eorum Humberti, Hugonis avunculi eius"[601].
     "m RICHOARA [de Salornay, daughter of ROCLENUS & his wife Testa ---]. Guichenon names the wife of Guichard [III] as Richoara de Salornay, although the editor of the 1874 edition says that this is not certain in the absence of any document which proves her parentage[602]. "Wichardus miles de Bellojoco" donated property "in comitatu Matisconensi in villa Brurericus in agro Biliaco" to Saint-Vincent-de-Mâcon by charter dated to [1031/62] subscribed by "uxoris eius Ricoare et filiorum eius Humberti, Guichardi et Dalmacii"[603]. "Ricoarie uxoris eius ac filii eorum Humberti, Hugonis avunculi eius" subscribed the charter dated to [1031/60] under which "Wicardus veniens de Bellijoco" donated property to Saint-Vincent-de-Mâcon "recordans peccata…pater suus Wicardus"[604]. She is named with her husband and sons in charters dated to [1031/60]. Richoara donated the church of Vitry to Cluny for the souls of "patris mee Rocleni et matris mee Tedce et sponsi mei domni Wichardi" by charter dated [1055] subscribed by "Joceranni Rufi, Wichardi, Umberti, Wichardi, Dalmatii, Gaumarii, Petri"[605]. By a second charter dated [1055] "Richoara uxor Wichardi de Bellojoco" donated the church of Vitry with the consent of "viro meo Wichardo et filiis meis Humberto et Dalmatio et filiabus meis" to Cluny, which confirms that after the death of Richoara "Lebaldus de Igonia gener eius" was obliged to accept this donation to settle a dispute with the abbey[606]."
Med Lands cites:
[600] Cluny, Tome III, 2728, p. 751.
[601] Mâcon Saint-Vincent 476, p. 274.
[602] Guichenon (Dombes) (1874) I, Livre III, p. 168, footnote 2.
[603] Mâcon Saint-Vincent 483, p. 279.
[604] Mâcon Saint-Vincent 476, p. 274.
[605] Cluny, Tome IV, 3350, p. 446.
[606] Cluny, Tome IV, 3351, p. 447.4

Citations

  1. [S3] Unknown subject, (no date), PA State Library, Vertical Family Files, Harrisburg, Dauphin Co., Pennsylvania, USA, Guichard II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106260&tree=LEO
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guichard II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106260&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelaide: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106267&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#GuichardIIBeaujeuB. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#GuichardIBeaujeuB
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guichard I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106266&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guichard II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106260&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ricaire de Salornay: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106260&tree=LEO
  9. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Famille de Beaujeu: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famille_de_Beaujeu. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  10. [S4742] Wikipédia (FR), online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Guichard II de Beaujeu: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guichard_II_de_Beaujeu
  11. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Sires de Beaujeu: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/beaujeu1.html
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Humbert II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106076&tree=LEO
  13. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#WandelmodeBeaujeuMGuillaumeIIILyonForez

Adélaïde (?)1,2

F, #62098, d. after 1050
Last Edited8 Dec 2020
     Adélaïde (?) married Guichard I (?) Sire de Beaujeu, son of Humbert I (?) Sire de Beaujeu and Hermelt/Ameldis (?).3,4,5

Adélaïde (?) died after 1050.1
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XI 156.3

; Per Genealogy.EU: "B2. Guichard I, sn de Beaujeu, *before 988, +1031/50; m.before 1002 Adelaide N."6

; Per Med Lands:
     "GUICHARD [II], son of HUMBERT [I] & his wife Emeldis --- (-[1031/50]). "Umbertus, Ameldus, Berardus, Vuichardus, Letaudus…" witnessed the charter dated 978 under which "Vuichardus" donated property to Cluny[578], these five witnesses presumably being Guichard's brother Humbert, his wife and their three sons. "Humbertus et uxor mea Emeldis" donated property "in pago Matisconensi in villam…Morgonum" to Cluny by charter dated to [987/96], subscribed by "Berardi, Wichardi et Letaudi filiorum ipsorum"[579]. "Umbertus et uxor mea Aimeldis" donated property "in pago Lugdunensi" to Cluny by charter dated 994, subscribed by "Berardi, Wicardi, Letaudi et filiorum eius"[580], the subscribers presumably being the sons of the joint donors despite the wording of the document. "Quidam nobilis Humbertus…cum uxore sua…Hemelt cum filiis ac filiabus…Wicardus, Lietoldus" confirmed his father’s donations to Notre-Dame de Beaujeu, for the souls of "patris sui Berardi et matris sue Wandalmodis", by charter dated to [990/1000], signed by "Berardi, Wicardi…"[581]. "Wichardus" donated property "in pago Augustodunensi…in villa Mozocst" to Cluny by undated charter dated to [993/1048], subscribed by "Adelaidis uxoris eius, Wichardi filii eius"[582]. "Wichardus" donated property "in loco…Rocam in villa Quinciaco" to Cluny by charter dated 1020, subscribed by "Adeledis uxoris eius, Wichardi filii eius"[583].
     "m ADELAIDE, daughter of ---. "Wichardus" donated property "in loco…Rocam in villa Quinciaco" to Cluny by charter dated 1020, subscribed by "Adeledis uxoris eius, Wichardi filii eius"[584]. "
Med Lands cites:
[578] Cluny, Tome II, 1456, p. 511.
[579] Cluny, Tome III, 1774, p. 32.
[580] Cluny, Tome III, 1774, p. 32.
[581] Beaujeu Notre-Dame, Appendix, I, p. 35.
[582] Cluny, Tome III, 2040, p. 246.
[583] Cluny, Tome III, 2728, p. 751.
[584] Cluny, Tome III, 2728, p. 751.4
She was living in 1050.3

Family

Guichard I (?) Sire de Beaujeu d. bt 1031 - 1050
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelaide: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106267&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Guichard II de Beaujeu: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guichard_II_de_Beaujeu. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelaide: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106267&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#GuichardIBeaujeuB. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guichard I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106266&tree=LEO
  6. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Sires de Beaujeu: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/beaujeu1.html
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guichard II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106260&tree=LEO
  8. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#GuichardIIBeaujeuB

Guichard I (?) Sire de Beaujeu1

M, #62099, d. between 1031 and 1050
FatherHumbert I (?) Sire de Beaujeu1,4,3 b. b 949, d. b 1016
MotherHermelt/Ameldis (?)2,1,3 d. bt 997 - 998
Last Edited29 Oct 2020
     Guichard I (?) Sire de Beaujeu married Adélaïde (?)5,3,6

Guichard I (?) Sire de Beaujeu died between 1031 and 1050.3,6
     ; See attached chart from Wikipédia (Fr.) for the de Beaujeu family.7

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XI 156.6 Guichard I (?) Sire de Beaujeu was also known as Guichard I de Beaujeu Seigneur de Beaujeu.3

; Per Genealogy.EU: "B2. Guichard I, sn de Beaujeu, *before 988, +1031/50; m.before 1002 Adelaide N."8

; Per Med Lands:
     "GUICHARD [II], son of HUMBERT [I] & his wife Emeldis --- (-[1031/50]). "Umbertus, Ameldus, Berardus, Vuichardus, Letaudus…" witnessed the charter dated 978 under which "Vuichardus" donated property to Cluny[578], these five witnesses presumably being Guichard's brother Humbert, his wife and their three sons. "Humbertus et uxor mea Emeldis" donated property "in pago Matisconensi in villam…Morgonum" to Cluny by charter dated to [987/96], subscribed by "Berardi, Wichardi et Letaudi filiorum ipsorum"[579]. "Umbertus et uxor mea Aimeldis" donated property "in pago Lugdunensi" to Cluny by charter dated 994, subscribed by "Berardi, Wicardi, Letaudi et filiorum eius"[580], the subscribers presumably being the sons of the joint donors despite the wording of the document. "Quidam nobilis Humbertus…cum uxore sua…Hemelt cum filiis ac filiabus…Wicardus, Lietoldus" confirmed his father’s donations to Notre-Dame de Beaujeu, for the souls of "patris sui Berardi et matris sue Wandalmodis", by charter dated to [990/1000], signed by "Berardi, Wicardi…"[581]. "Wichardus" donated property "in pago Augustodunensi…in villa Mozocst" to Cluny by undated charter dated to [993/1048], subscribed by "Adelaidis uxoris eius, Wichardi filii eius"[582]. "Wichardus" donated property "in loco…Rocam in villa Quinciaco" to Cluny by charter dated 1020, subscribed by "Adeledis uxoris eius, Wichardi filii eius"[583].
     "m ADELAIDE, daughter of ---. "Wichardus" donated property "in loco…Rocam in villa Quinciaco" to Cluny by charter dated 1020, subscribed by "Adeledis uxoris eius, Wichardi filii eius"[584]. "
Med Lands cites:
[578] Cluny, Tome II, 1456, p. 511.
[579] Cluny, Tome III, 1774, p. 32.
[580] Cluny, Tome III, 1774, p. 32.
[581] Beaujeu Notre-Dame, Appendix, I, p. 35.
[582] Cluny, Tome III, 2040, p. 246.
[583] Cluny, Tome III, 2728, p. 751.
[584] Cluny, Tome III, 2728, p. 751.3
He was Seigneur de Beaujeu between 1030 and 1050.

Family

Adélaïde (?) d. a 1050
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guichard I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106266&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hermelt: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106265&tree=LEO
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#GuichardIBeaujeuB. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Humbert I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106264&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelaide: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106267&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guichard I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106266&tree=LEO
  7. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Famille de Beaujeu: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famille_de_Beaujeu. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  8. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Sires de Beaujeu: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/beaujeu1.html
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guichard II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106260&tree=LEO
  10. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#GuichardIIBeaujeuB

GuyGuigues II d'Albon Comte de Lyon et de Forez1,2

M, #62100, d. 6 December 1206
FatherGuy/Guigues d'Albon Comte de Lyon et de Forez1,3,2 b. b 1108, d. 27 Oct 1138
MotherAlix/Marie (?) de Beaujeu1 d. a 1118
Last Edited1 Sep 2020
     GuyGuigues II d'Albon Comte de Lyon et de Forez married Willelme (?)4

GuyGuigues II d'Albon Comte de Lyon et de Forez died on 6 December 1206.1
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III/4 739.1 He was Crusader in 1163.1

Family

Willelme (?)
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy II d'Albon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00048741&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Albon 1 page (Counts d'Albon, Counts de Forez and Sires de Beaujeau): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/albon1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy d'Albon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00048738&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Willelme: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00048742&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy III d'Albon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00048743&tree=LEO