(?) de Gant1

F, #21121, b. circa 1117
FatherWalter de Gaunt Baron of Folkingham, co. Lincoln1 b. c 1077, d. 1139
MotherMaud (Matilda) (?) de Bretagne, de Penthievre1 b. c 1077, d. 1139
ReferenceEDV24
Last Edited14 Aug 2019
     (?) de Gant married William fitz Walter de Welle of Wells, co. Lincs, son of William fitz Ragemer.2
(?) de Gant was born circa 1117 at Folkingham, Lincolnshire, England.1
     EDV-24.

Family

William fitz Walter de Welle of Wells, co. Lincs b. c 1117, d. b 1198
Children

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I43973
  2. [S2077] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 June 2006: "Re: Brittany was Re: William de Mohun's (d Oct 1193) ancestors," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 June 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 June 2006."

Sir Adam de Welle 1st Baron Welles, of Welle, Lincolnshire1,2

M, #21122, b. 1265, d. 1 September 1311
FatherRobert de Welle3 b. c 1235, d. b 24 Sep 1265
MotherIsabel de Periton b. c 1235, d. b 5 Jan 1315
ReferenceEDV20
Last Edited15 Aug 2019
     Sir Adam de Welle 1st Baron Welles, of Welle, Lincolnshire was buried at Greenfield Priory, Lincolnshire, England. He was born in 1265 at Lincolnshire, England. He married Joan Engaine, daughter of Sir John I d'Engaine and Joan de Greinville, circa 1296.1,2

Sir Adam de Welle 1st Baron Welles, of Welle, Lincolnshire died on 1 September 1311.2
     EDV-20.

; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. The Complete Peerage, 1936, Doubleday, H. A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: XII/2 439
2. A Genealogical History of the domrant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the british Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, reference: 572.2 Sir Adam de Welle 1st Baron Welles, of Welle, Lincolnshire was also known as Adam de Welles.

Family

Joan Engaine b. c 1247, d. 1 Jun 1315
Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, FitzWalter Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adam de Welle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139494&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Welle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139492&tree=LEO

Joan Engaine

F, #21123, b. circa 1247, d. 1 June 1315
FatherSir John I d'Engaine1 b. c 1227, d. 5 Jan 1297
MotherJoan de Greinville1,2 b. c 1240, d. a 2 Nov 1305
ReferenceEDV20
Last Edited15 Aug 2019
     Joan Engaine was buried at Greenfield Priory, Lincolnshire, England. She was born circa 1247 at Laxton, Northamptonshire, England. She married Walter Fitz Walter, son of Sir Robert fitz Walter Knt., 1st Lord Fitz Walter, of Little Dunmow, Essex and Devorguilla de Burgh, in 1286.3
Joan Engaine married Sir Adam de Welle 1st Baron Welles, of Welle, Lincolnshire, son of Robert de Welle and Isabel de Periton, circa 1296.3,4

Joan Engaine died on 1 June 1315.3
     EDV-20 GKJ-20.

Family 1

Walter Fitz Walter b. 1275, d. 1293
Child

Family 2

Sir Adam de Welle 1st Baron Welles, of Welle, Lincolnshire b. 1265, d. 1 Sep 1311
Child

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I2233
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan de Greinville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00397949&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, FitzWalter Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adam de Welle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139494&tree=LEO

Muriel/Muriella Keith1,2

F, #21124, b. circa 1363, d. May 1449
FatherSir William Keith 1st Marischal of Scotland3,2,4 b. c 1340, d. bt 13 May 1407 - 2 Jun 1413
MotherMargaret Fraser5,6,4
Last Edited3 Sep 2019
     Muriel/Muriella Keith was born circa 1363.4 She married Robert Stewart 1st Duke of Albany, son of Robert II Stewart King of the Scots and Elizabeth Mure of Rowallan, on 4 May 1380
; His 2nd wife; date is of contract or similar.1,2,4
Muriel/Muriella Keith died in May 1449; van de Pas syas died "bef 1 Jujne 1449."1,2,4
      ;      per van de Pas: "A dispensation, dated at Fondi on 14 January 1378/1379, reports: To the bishop of Moray. Faculty to dispense Reginald Cheyn, donzel, and Murielle, damselle, daughter of Sir William de Keth, of Moray and Aberdeen dioceses, from the impediment to marriage arising from the third and fourth degrees of consanguinity.
     Muriel Keith, the future second wife of Robert Stewart, 1st Duke of Albany, was contracted to marry Reginald le Cheyne, son of Sir Reginald le Cheyne by his wife Helen of Strathearn. Reginald likely never married Muriel Keith, and is known to have died without progeny. Robert Stewart and Muriel Keith had a dispensation to marry dated 4 May 1380, so Reginald likely died some time before that date."4

Reference: van de Pas cites:
     1. Burke's Guide to the Royal Family, London, 1973 . 317
     1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald. 159.4

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe (New York, NY: Barnes & Noble Books, 2002), Table 13: Scotland: Houses of Bruce and Stuart. Hereinafter cited as Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page (see KINTORE, E).
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Muriella Keith: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046289&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret Fraser: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177703&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret Fraser: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177703&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lady Elizabeth Stewart: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00006105&tree=LEO

William de Welle

M, #21125, b. circa 1177, d. circa 1241
FatherRobert de Welle b. c 1147, d. c 1206
MotherMaud (?) b. c 1147, d. a 1218
ReferenceEDV22
Last Edited15 Aug 2019
     William de Welle was born circa 1177 at Lincolnshire, England. He married Emma de Grainsby, daughter of William de Grainsby, circa 1207.1

William de Welle died circa 1241.
     EDV-22.

Family

Emma de Grainsby d. a 30 Sep 1226
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Grainsby: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00042725&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Welle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139492&tree=LEO

Isabel de Periton

F, #21126, b. circa 1235, d. before 5 January 1315
ReferenceEDV21
Last Edited15 Aug 2019
     Isabel de Periton was buried at Malton Priory, Yorkshire, England. She married Robert de Welle, son of William de Welle and Emma de Grainsby.1
Isabel de Periton was born circa 1235 at Faxton, Northamptonshire, England.
Isabel de Periton died before 5 January 1315.
     EDV-21.

Family

Robert de Welle b. c 1235, d. b 24 Sep 1265
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Welle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139492&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Robert de Welle1

M, #21127, b. circa 1235, d. before 24 September 1265
FatherWilliam de Welle1 b. c 1177, d. c 1241
MotherEmma de Grainsby2,1 d. a 30 Sep 1226
ReferenceEDV21
Last Edited15 Aug 2019
     Robert de Welle married Isabel de Periton.1
Robert de Welle was born circa 1235 at Lincolnshire, England.
Robert de Welle died before 24 September 1265.1
     EDV-21.

; Leo van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936, Doubleday, H. A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: XII/2 438.3

Family

Isabel de Periton b. c 1235, d. b 5 Jan 1315
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Welle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139492&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Grainsby: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00042725&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Welle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00042725&tree=LEO

Sir William Keith 1st Marischal of Scotland1,2,3

M, #21128, b. circa 1340, d. between 13 May 1407 and 2 June 1413
FatherSir Edward de Keith of Syntoun4,2 d. b 1350
MotherIsabella Syntoun5,6
Last Edited20 Aug 2019
     Sir William Keith 1st Marischal of Scotland married Margaret Fraser, daughter of Sir John Fraser of Aberbothnot,
; per Stirnet: m. Mary Hamilton (dau of Sir James Hamilton of Cadzow). The identification of Earl William's wife is not certain. She may have been Marjorie Fraser, dau of Alexander Fraser of Kinnell and Lovat. She died before 11.1442.2,3,7 Sir William Keith 1st Marischal of Scotland was born circa 1340.2
Sir William Keith 1st Marischal of Scotland died between 13 May 1407 and 2 June 1413.2
      ; per van de Pas: "Sir William Keith added greatly to the power and possessions of the family by his marriage to Margaret, the only child and heiress of Sir John Fraser, eldest son of Alexander Fraser, High Chamberlain of Scotland, by his wife Mary, sister of Robert The Bruce. He obtained with her large estates in Kincardine or Mearns, which from this time forward became the principal residence of the Keith family.

When Sir William Keith resolved to erect a castle as a place of safety during the troubled times in which he lived, he took the precaution first of all to build a church for the parish in a more convenient place; but the Bishop of St. Andrews thought it fit to excommunicate him on the pretence that he had violated consecreated ground. Sir William, however, appealed to Pope Benedict XIII stating the whole circumstances of the case, the urgent need of such a fortress, and the compensation he had made for the site by building another church. The Pontiff, on learning the real state of matters, issued a Bull, dated 18 July 1394, decided the appeal in Sir William's favour, directing the Bishop to remove the excommunication, and to permit the baron to retain possession of the castle on the payment of a certain sum to the Church."2

; van de Pas cites:
     1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VIII 472;I 79
     2. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: 159
     3. The Great Historic Families of Scotland, London, 1889, Taylor, James, Reference: biography.2

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page (see KINTORE, E). Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William Keith: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140253&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2022] Stirnet Genealogy, online http://www.stirnet.com/, Keith 02 - Families covered: Keith of Keith, Keith Marischal, Keith of Pittendrum, Keith of Troup
    http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/kk/keith02.htm. Hereinafter cited as Stirnet Genealogy.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Edward Keith, of Syntoun: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00059293&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabella Syntoun: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026986&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabella Syntoun (Sinton), of Sinton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026986&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret Fraser: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177703&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Robert de Keith: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00186450&tree=LEO
  9. [S2022] Stirnet Genealogy, online http://www.stirnet.com/, Keith 01 (Families covered: Keith of Keith):
    http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/kk/keith01.htm#inverg
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Christiana Keith: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00116903&tree=LEO
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William Keith, Marischal of Scotland: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140253&tree=LEO
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret Keith: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00116920&tree=LEO
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Keith, Lady of Aboyne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046331&tree=LEO
  14. [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe (New York, NY: Barnes & Noble Books, 2002), Table 13: Scotland: Houses of Bruce and Stuart. Hereinafter cited as Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession.
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Muriella Keith: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046289&tree=LEO

William fitz Walter de Welle of Wells, co. Lincs1

M, #21129, b. circa 1117, d. before 1198
FatherWilliam fitz Ragemer1
ReferenceEDV24
Last Edited15 Aug 2019
     William fitz Walter de Welle of Wells, co. Lincs married (?) de Gant, daughter of Walter de Gaunt Baron of Folkingham, co. Lincoln and Maud (Matilda) (?) de Bretagne, de Penthievre.1
William fitz Walter de Welle of Wells, co. Lincs was born circa 1117.
William fitz Walter de Welle of Wells, co. Lincs died before 1198.1
     EDV-24.

Family

(?) de Gant b. c 1117
Children

Citations

  1. [S2077] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 June 2006: "Re: Brittany was Re: William de Mohun's (d Oct 1193) ancestors," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 June 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 June 2006."

Robert de Welle

M, #21130, b. circa 1147, d. circa 1206
FatherWilliam fitz Walter de Welle of Wells, co. Lincs1 b. c 1117, d. b 1198
Mother(?) de Gant b. c 1117
ReferenceEDV23
Last Edited15 Aug 2019
     Robert de Welle married Maud (?)
Robert de Welle was born circa 1147 at Lincolnshire, England.
Robert de Welle died circa 1206.
     EDV-23.

Family

Maud (?) b. c 1147, d. a 1218
Child

Citations

  1. [S2077] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 June 2006: "Re: Brittany was Re: William de Mohun's (d Oct 1193) ancestors," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 June 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 June 2006."

Emma de Grainsby

F, #21131, d. after 30 September 1226
FatherWilliam de Grainsby1
ReferenceEDV22
Last Edited14 Aug 2019
     Emma de Grainsby married William de Welle, son of Robert de Welle and Maud (?), circa 1207.1

Emma de Grainsby died after 30 September 1226.1
     EDV-22.

; Leo van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936, Doubleday, H. A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: XII/2 437.1 She was living on 30 September 1226.1

Family

William de Welle b. c 1177, d. c 1241
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Grainsby: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00042725&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Welle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139492&tree=LEO

Maud (?)

F, #21132, b. circa 1147, d. after 1218
ReferenceEDV23
Last Edited12 Aug 2019
     Maud (?) married Robert de Welle, son of William fitz Walter de Welle of Wells, co. Lincs and (?) de Gant.
Maud (?) was born circa 1147.
Maud (?) died after 1218.
     EDV-23.

Family

Robert de Welle b. c 1147, d. c 1206
Child

Margaret Bardolf1

F, #21133, b. circa 1304, d. before 1345
FatherSir Thomas Bardolf KB, 2nd Lord Bardolf1,2 b. 4 Oct 1282, d. 15 Dec 1328
MotherLady Agnes de Grandson1,3 b. c 1285, d. 11 Dec 1357
ReferenceEDV19
Last Edited2 Oct 2019
     Margaret Bardolf was buried at Greenfield Priory, Lincolnshire, England. She was born circa 1304. She married Adam de Welle 3rd Lord Welle, son of Sir Adam de Welle 1st Baron Welles, of Welle, Lincolnshire and Joan Engaine, before 1334.1

Margaret Bardolf died before 1345.
Margaret Bardolf was buried at Lady Chapel, Greenfield Priory, England.1
     EDV-19.

; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 22
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: XII 441.1

Family

Adam de Welle 3rd Lord Welle b. 22 Jul 1304, d. Feb 1345
Children

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret Bardolf: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027646&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas Bardolf, 2nd Lord Bardolf: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139512&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Beauchamp: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139513&tree=LEO
  4. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), HUMPHREY 10, p. 188. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Humphrey 9: p. 401. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Adam de Welle 3rd Lord Welle1

M, #21134, b. 22 July 1304, d. February 1345
FatherSir Adam de Welle 1st Baron Welles, of Welle, Lincolnshire2 b. 1265, d. 1 Sep 1311
MotherJoan Engaine b. c 1247, d. 1 Jun 1315
ReferenceEDV19
Last Edited15 Aug 2019
     Adam de Welle 3rd Lord Welle was buried at Greenfield Priory, Lincolnshire, England. He was born on 22 July 1304. He married Margaret Bardolf, daughter of Sir Thomas Bardolf KB, 2nd Lord Bardolf and Lady Agnes de Grandson, before 1334.3

Adam de Welle 3rd Lord Welle died in February 1345 at age 40.
     EDV-19.

Family

Margaret Bardolf b. c 1304, d. b 1345
Children

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de la Warr Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adam de Welle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139494&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret Bardolf: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027646&tree=LEO
  4. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), HUMPHREY 10, p. 188. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Humphrey 9: p. 401. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Elizabeth Wells

F, #21135
FatherAdam de Welle 3rd Lord Welle b. 22 Jul 1304, d. Feb 1345
MotherMargaret Bardolf b. c 1304, d. b 1345
Last Edited12 Nov 2001
     Elizabeth Wells married an unknown person before 14 October 1338.

Diego Gomez de Sandoval1

M, #21136, d. 1134
FatherGomez Gonsales Salvadores1 d. 1111
MotherUrraca Diaz de Cifontes1
Last Edited14 Nov 2020
     Diego Gomez de Sandoval married Maria Rodriguez de Asturias.

Diego Gomez de Sandoval died in 1134.1

Andrew Stuart1

M, #21137, d. before 1413
FatherRobert Stewart 1st Duke of Albany1 b. bt 1339 - 1340, d. 2 Sep 1420
MotherMuriel/Muriella Keith1,2 b. c 1363, d. May 1449
Last Edited24 Apr 2018
     Andrew Stuart died before 1413; dsp.1

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Muriella Keith: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046289&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Diego Martinez de Villamayor

M, #21138, d. 1176
FatherMartin Diaz de Sandoval
MotherMaria Garcia de Villamayor
Last Edited14 Nov 2020
     Diego Martinez de Villamayor married Maria Ponce de Minerva.

Diego Martinez de Villamayor died in 1176.

Maria Ponce de Minerva

F, #21139
Last Edited8 Oct 2020
     Maria Ponce de Minerva married Diego Martinez de Villamayor, son of Martin Diaz de Sandoval and Maria Garcia de Villamayor.

Martin Diaz de Sandoval

M, #21140
FatherDiego Gomez de Sandoval d. 1134
MotherMaria Rodriguez de Asturias
Last Edited14 Nov 2020
     Martin Diaz de Sandoval married Maria Garcia de Villamayor.

Maria Garcia de Villamayor

F, #21141
Last Edited14 Nov 2020
     Maria Garcia de Villamayor married Martin Diaz de Sandoval, son of Diego Gomez de Sandoval and Maria Rodriguez de Asturias.

Robert Stuart1

M, #21142
FatherRobert Stewart 1st Duke of Albany1 b. bt 1339 - 1340, d. 2 Sep 1420
MotherMuriel/Muriella Keith1,2 b. c 1363, d. May 1449
Last Edited24 Apr 2018
     Robert Stuart was living in 1431.1

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Muriella Keith: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046289&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Maria Rodriguez de Asturias

F, #21143
Last Edited7 Oct 2020
     Maria Rodriguez de Asturias married Diego Gomez de Sandoval, son of Gomez Gonsales Salvadores and Urraca Diaz de Cifontes.

Gutierre Ruiz de Sandoval

M, #21144, d. circa 1196
FatherRodrigo Fernandez de Sandoval
Last Edited14 Nov 2020
     Gutierre Ruiz de Sandoval married Ines de Rada.1

Gutierre Ruiz de Sandoval died circa 1196.

Rodrigo Fernandez de Sandoval

M, #21145
FatherFernan Diaz de Sandoval d. c 1127
Last Edited14 Nov 2020

Family

Child

Fernan Diaz de Sandoval

M, #21146, d. circa 1127
FatherDiego Gomez de Sandoval d. 1134
MotherMaria Rodriguez de Asturias
Last Edited14 Nov 2020
     Fernan Diaz de Sandoval died circa 1127.

Ines de Rada1

F, #21147
Last Edited14 Nov 2020
     Ines de Rada married Gutierre Ruiz de Sandoval, son of Rodrigo Fernandez de Sandoval.1

NN (?) of Metz1

F, #21148, b. circa 836
Last Edited23 Aug 2020
     NN (?) of Metz married Thierry II (?) Count in the Chaumois, son of Theodoric VI 'le Trésorier' (?) Comte d'Autun.1
NN (?) of Metz was born circa 836.1

Family

Thierry II (?) Count in the Chaumois b. c 830, d. b 893

Manassès II (?) Comte de Châlons-sur-Saone, de Auxin. Dijon, et de Vergy1,2,3,4

M, #21149, b. circa 860, d. after 925
FatherManassès I (?) Comte de Dijon5,4 d. a 912
ReferenceGAV29
Last Edited13 Dec 2020
     Manassès II (?) Comte de Châlons-sur-Saone, de Auxin. Dijon, et de Vergy was born circa 860.1 He married Ermengarde (?) of Burgundy, daughter of Boson V (?) Ct of Bourges, Cte de Vienne et d'Arles, Duke of Lombardy, Governor of Provence, King of Provence, King of Aquitaine and Ermengarde (?) of Italy, Queen of Provence.6,7,3,8,4

Manassès II (?) Comte de Châlons-sur-Saone, de Auxin. Dijon, et de Vergy died after 925; Gordon Banks says d. 918; Med Lands says d. 925 or aft.2,4
     GAV-29.

Reference: Gordon Banks cites: Marlyn Lewis, The Ancestry of Elizabeth of York (Arvada, CO: HT Communications, 1999).2

; This is the same person as ”Manassès Ier de Chalon” at at Wikipédia (FR).9

; NB: There is no agreement about the ancestry of Manassès II.
     Genealogics show no parents for him.
     Med Lands shows him as the son of Manassès I (d. aft 912). Med Lands cites a charter "of "Manasses comes" witnessed by "Walo filius eius et Manasses comes iunior" [6]," and the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines which in 906 names "comes Manasses Divionensi", specifying that "Walo et alterius Manasses comes iunior" were his sons [7]." Med Lands shows no further ancestors for this Manassès I.
Med Lands cites:
[6] Chronique de Saint-Bénigne de Dijon, p. 118.
[7] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 906, MGH SS XXIII, p. 750.

     Wikipédia (Fr.) says: "Manassès serait le fils de Manassès, comte de Dijon [1], ou de Théodoric (Thierry), seigneur de Vergy, lui-même supposé fils de Warin Ier d'Auvergne [2]." Wikipédia (Fr.) cites:
[1[ « Manassès Ier de Chalon († v. 925) » [archive], dans « Burgundy duchy - Dijon », ch. 1 : « Comtes de Dijon », section A : « Comtes de Dijon », sur MedLands (consulté le 15 décembre 2017).
[2] André Duchesne, Histoire généalogique de la maison de Vergy justifiée par chartes, ti?tres, arrests, & aultres bonnes & certaines preuves, Paris, Sébastien Cramoisy, 1625 (lire en ligne [archive]), p. 23-33.

Conclusion: I don't find either of the proposed ancestries particularly convincing. However, I have now ended the line with Manassès I as father of Manassès II, and no earlier ancestors. GA Vaut.3,5,9,10 Manassès II (?) Comte de Châlons-sur-Saone, de Auxin. Dijon, et de Vergy was also known as Manasses "le Vieux" Cte de Châlons.7

; Per Med Lands:
     "MANASSES [II] (-925 or after). Comte de Dijon. The Vita Sanctii Viventii Presbyteri records that "Manasses" built "monasterium in territorio Augustudunensi in loco montis Vergiaci castri" with the advice of "suæ uxoris Hermengardis fratrisque sui Walonis Æduorum urbis pontificis"[13]. The Chronicle of St Bénigne de Dijon records a donation dated 925 confirmed by "Manasse comite"[14].
     "m ERMENGARDE, daughter of --- (-after Jun 924). "Heriveus…Eduorum episcopus" donated property "villam Tilionacum" to the canons of St Nazaire by charter dated 31 Oct 920 which names "genitricis nostræ domnæ Hirmingardis comitissæ et fratrum nostrorum…[et] Walo presul et noster avunculus", signed by "Hirmingardis comitissa, Walonis filii eius, Gisleberti filii eius alterius, Manassæ filii eius"[15]. The Vita Sanctii Viventii Presbyteri names "Manasses…suæ uxoris Hermengardis"[16]. "Warulfus…virum nobilem…filio equivoco eius Warulfo" petitioned "Ermengardis comitisse…seu filii eius Gisleberti comitis" for some donated property of Saint-Marcel-lès-Chalon by charter dated Jun 924[17]. A possible origin of Ermengarde is suggested by one version of the Series abbatum Flaviniacensium, as reproduced only in a 17th century secondary source, which records that "Richardus dux et Ingelbertus" installed "Vualonem, fratrem Manasserii comitis qui gener erat B fratris Richardi ducis" as abbot of Flavigny[18]. If this is correct, she was Ermengarde, daughter of Boson King of Provence & [his second wife Ermengardis of Italy]."
Med Lands cites:
[13] Vita Sanctii Viventii Presbyteri, RHGF IX, p. 131.
[14] Chronique de Saint-Bénigne de Dijon, p. 124.
[15] Autun (Charmasse), Vol. I, Part 1, 26, p. 42.
[16] Vita Sanctii Viventii Presbyteri, RHGF IX, p. 131.
[17] Saint-Marcel-lès-Chalon 28, p. 53.
[18] Duchesne (1625) Vergy, preuves, p. 17, also quoted in Settipani (1993), p. 373 footnote 80. The text in question does not appear in Series abbatum Flaviniacensium, MGH SS VIII, p. 502.4

Family

Ermengarde (?) of Burgundy b. a 882, d. a 11 Aug 887
Children

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I30097
  2. [S1608] Banks/Dean Genealogy, online http://www.gordonbanks.com/gordon/family/2nd_Site/geb-p/index.htm, Person Page 120: http://www.gordonbanks.com/gordon/family/2nd_Site/geb-p/p32.htm#i6489. Hereinafter cited as Banks/Dean Genealogy.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Manassès II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00571852&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgddijon.htm#Manassesdied925. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgddijon.htm#_Toc478317745
  6. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I30098
  7. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Boson page (Bosonides): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/boson.html
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermengarde de Provence: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00571853&tree=LEO
  9. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Manassès Ier de Chalon: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manass%C3%A8s_Ier_de_Chalon. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  10. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 23 Aug 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  11. [S1608] Banks/Dean Genealogy, online http://www.gordonbanks.com/gordon/family/2nd_Site/geb-p/index.htm, Person Page 95: http://www.gordonbanks.com/gordon/family/2nd_Site/geb-p/p95.htm#i5201
  12. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgddijon.htm#ErmengardedauManassesMLetaudMacon
  13. [S1608] Banks/Dean Genealogy, online http://www.gordonbanks.com/gordon/family/2nd_Site/geb-p/index.htm, Person Page 32: http://www.gordonbanks.com/gordon/family/2nd_Site/geb-p/p32.htm#i1791
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Giselbert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120370&tree=LEO
  15. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDY.htm#GiselbertBurgundydied956

Ermengarde (?) of Burgundy1,2,3

F, #21150, b. after 882, d. after 11 August 887
FatherBoson V (?) Ct of Bourges, Cte de Vienne et d'Arles, Duke of Lombardy, Governor of Provence, King of Provence, King of Aquitaine2,4,3 b. 835, d. 19 Feb 887
MotherErmengarde (?) of Italy, Queen of Provence4,3 b. c 855, d. b 22 Jun 896
ReferenceGAV29
Last Edited13 Dec 2020
     Ermengarde (?) of Burgundy was born after 882.1,3
Ermengarde (?) of Burgundy died after 11 August 887.3 She married Manassès II (?) Comte de Châlons-sur-Saone, de Auxin. Dijon, et de Vergy, son of Manassès I (?) Comte de Dijon.1,2,5,6,7

      ; Per Med Lands:
     "MANASSES [II] (-925 or after). Comte de Dijon. The Vita Sanctii Viventii Presbyteri records that "Manasses" built "monasterium in territorio Augustudunensi in loco montis Vergiaci castri" with the advice of "suæ uxoris Hermengardis fratrisque sui Walonis Æduorum urbis pontificis"[13]. The Chronicle of St Bénigne de Dijon records a donation dated 925 confirmed by "Manasse comite"[14].
     "m ERMENGARDE, daughter of --- (-after Jun 924). "Heriveus…Eduorum episcopus" donated property "villam Tilionacum" to the canons of St Nazaire by charter dated 31 Oct 920 which names "genitricis nostræ domnæ Hirmingardis comitissæ et fratrum nostrorum…[et] Walo presul et noster avunculus", signed by "Hirmingardis comitissa, Walonis filii eius, Gisleberti filii eius alterius, Manassæ filii eius"[15]. The Vita Sanctii Viventii Presbyteri names "Manasses…suæ uxoris Hermengardis"[16]. "Warulfus…virum nobilem…filio equivoco eius Warulfo" petitioned "Ermengardis comitisse…seu filii eius Gisleberti comitis" for some donated property of Saint-Marcel-lès-Chalon by charter dated Jun 924[17]. A possible origin of Ermengarde is suggested by one version of the Series abbatum Flaviniacensium, as reproduced only in a 17th century secondary source, which records that "Richardus dux et Ingelbertus" installed "Vualonem, fratrem Manasserii comitis qui gener erat B fratris Richardi ducis" as abbot of Flavigny[18]. If this is correct, she was Ermengarde, daughter of Boson King of Provence & [his second wife Ermengardis of Italy]."
Med Lands cites:
[13] Vita Sanctii Viventii Presbyteri, RHGF IX, p. 131.
[14] Chronique de Saint-Bénigne de Dijon, p. 124.
[15] Autun (Charmasse), Vol. I, Part 1, 26, p. 42.
[16] Vita Sanctii Viventii Presbyteri, RHGF IX, p. 131.
[17] Saint-Marcel-lès-Chalon 28, p. 53.
[18] Duchesne (1625) Vergy, preuves, p. 17, also quoted in Settipani (1993), p. 373 footnote 80. The text in question does not appear in Series abbatum Flaviniacensium, MGH SS VIII, p. 502.7


; Per Med Lands:
     "daughter ([after 882]-after 11 Aug 887). The existence of more than one daughter of King Boson & his second wife is confirmed by the charter dated 11 Aug 887 under which Emperor Karl III confirms a donation by "neptam nostram Hermingardim…filioque suo Hludouuico nepoti nostro et sororibus eius"[70]. It is not known how many other daughters there may have been. The Annales Bertiniani name "Richardus frater Bosonis" when recording that, after the capture of Vienne by the forces of King Carloman, he took “uxorem Bosonis et filiam eius” back to “comitatum suum Augustudensem” in 882[71], which suggests that any other children were born after the siege of Vienne. same person as…? ERMENGARDE (-after Jun 924). One version of the Series abbatum Flaviniacensium, as reproduced only in a 17th century secondary source, records that "Richardus dux et Ingelbertus" installed "Vualonem, fratrem Manasserii comitis qui gener erat B fratris Rich[ardi ducis" as abbot of Flavigny[72] which, if correct, means that the wife of Manassès was the daughter of King Boson. If this is right, her name suggests that she was the daughter of his second wife, although Chaume proposed that she was the daughter of his first marriage[73].
     "m MANASSES [II] Comte de Dijon, son of MANASSES [I] & his wife --- (-925 or after).]"
Med Lands cites:
[70] DD Karl 165, p. 267.
[71] Annales Bertiniani III 882.
[72] Duchesne (1625) Vergy, Preuves, p. 17, also quoted in Settipani (1993), p. 373 footnote 80, the text in question not appearing in Series abbatum Flaviniacensium, MGH SS VIII, p. 502.
[73] Settipani (1993), p. 373, citing Chaume (1925), p. 266 n. 2.3
GAV-29. Ermengarde (?) of Burgundy was also known as Ermengarde (?) de Provence.6

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I30098
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Boson page (Bosonides): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/boson.html
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PROVENCE.htm#ErmengardeMManasses. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PROVENCE.htm#BosonKingProvencedied887B
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Manassès II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00571852&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermengarde de Provence: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00571853&tree=LEO
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgddijon.htm#Manassesdied925
  8. [S1608] Banks/Dean Genealogy, online http://www.gordonbanks.com/gordon/family/2nd_Site/geb-p/index.htm, Person Page 95: http://www.gordonbanks.com/gordon/family/2nd_Site/geb-p/p95.htm#i5201. Hereinafter cited as Banks/Dean Genealogy.
  9. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgddijon.htm#ErmengardedauManassesMLetaudMacon
  10. [S1608] Banks/Dean Genealogy, online http://www.gordonbanks.com/gordon/family/2nd_Site/geb-p/index.htm, Person Page 32: http://www.gordonbanks.com/gordon/family/2nd_Site/geb-p/p32.htm#i1791
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Giselbert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120370&tree=LEO
  12. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDY.htm#GiselbertBurgundydied956