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     Jean de Bar seigneur de Puisaye, Alluyes, Brou,et Montmirail died circa 25 October 1415 at Battle of Agincourt, Agincourt, France (now); killed at the battle of Agincourt.^1,2

     Philippe de Bar married Yolande d'Enghien comtesse de Brienne, daughter of Louis d'Enghien comte de Brienne, conte titulaire di Conversano, duc titulaire d’Athènes, seigneur d’Enghien et de Gouy and Giovanna Sanseverino, after 3 May 1384 at Troyes, France (now),
; date of contract.^1,2,3
Philippe de Bar died after 1404 at Nikopolis, Greece (now); 1394, Pope Boniface IX proclaims crusade at urging of King Sigismund of Hungary; led by Sigismund, Catholic forces are defeated by Ottomans in Battle of Nikopolis (1396). See: http://www.turizm.net/turkey/history/ottoman1.html.^1,2,3
      ; Battle of Nikopolis (1396). From the conquest of Bulgaria Bajazet turned to Hungary. He had already, in 1390, carried out a series of successful raids into that country; he now aspired to more permanent conquest. Sigismund, who had succeeded to the throne of Hungary in 1387, was fully conscious of the impending peril. He made a strong appeal to the other Christian princes of Europe, and in 1394 Pope Boniface IX proclaimed a crusade. One hundred thousand Paladins, the flower of the chivalry of France and Germany, nobles not a few from England, Scotland, Flanders, and Lombardy, and a large body of the Knights of St. John responded to the papal call, and enlisted under the banner of Sigismund. In the battle of Nikopolis (1396) the forces of Christendom were overthrown by the Ottomans. The larger part of Sigismund's followers were slain or driven into the Danube to be drowned; no fewer than four French Princes of the Blood and twenty sons of the highest nobility in France were among Bajazet's prisoners; of the Knights of Rhodes only the Grand Master survived, while Sigismund himself escaped with difficulty down the river, and thence by sea returned to Hungary. After the battle a force of Turks invaded Hungary, destroyed the fortresses, and carried off sixteen thousand Styrians into captivity. The triumph of the Ottomans was complete.⁴

     Charles de Bar seigneur de Nogent-le-Rotrou died in 1392.¹

     Edouard III de Bar Duc de Bar, marquis de Pont, seigneur de Cassel and Doña Blanca I (?) de Navarra, Queen of Navarre were engaged in 1410.²
Edouard III de Bar Duc de Bar, marquis de Pont, seigneur de Cassel died circa 25 October 1415 at Battle of Agincourt, Agincourt, France (now); killed at the battle of Agincourt.^1,2
     He was duc de Bar in 1411.²

     Yolande d'Enghien comtesse de Brienne married Philippe de Bar, son of Robert I de Bar Duc de Bar, seigneur de Cassel, Gravelines, Puisaye, Alluye, Brou, Montmirail, Auton, La Bazoche et Nogent-Le-Rotrou and Marie de Valois de France, duchess of Bar, after 3 May 1384 at Troyes, France (now),
; date of contract.^1,2,3

     Louis de Bar Duc de Bar, marquis de Pont, seigneur de Cassel died on 23 June 1430 at Varennes, France (now).^1,2
     He was bishop of Poitiers in 1391 at Poitiers, Departement de la Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France (now).²

; Duke Louis of Bar, Bp of Verdun and Chalon, Cardinal, +1431; when he inherited Bar he ceded it to Rene d'Anjou, Duke of Lorraine, and ceded other properties to relatives.¹

     Marie de Bar was born in March 1374.² She married Guillaume II (?) Margrave of Namur, seigneur de Bethune, son of Guillaume I "le Riche" de Dampierre Margrave of Namur, sn de Bethune and Catherine (?) de Savoie, on 2 August 1384
; his 1st wife.^1,5,2
Marie de Bar died before 1393.²

     Guillaume II (?) Margrave of Namur, seigneur de Bethune was born on 22 January 1355.^1,2,3 He married Marie de Bar, daughter of Robert I de Bar Duc de Bar, seigneur de Cassel, Gravelines, Puisaye, Alluye, Brou, Montmirail, Auton, La Bazoche et Nogent-Le-Rotrou and Marie de Valois de France, duchess of Bar, on 2 August 1384
; his 1st wife.^1,2,3 Guillaume II (?) Margrave of Namur, seigneur de Bethune married Jeanne d'Harcourt Dame de Montaigle et de Béthune, daughter of Jean VI d’Harcourt Cte d'Harcourt et d'aumale and Catherine de Bourbon, in 1393
; his 2nd wife.^2,5
Guillaume II (?) Margrave of Namur, seigneur de Bethune died on 10 January 1418 at age 62.^1,2,3
      ; Margrave of Namur.^1,2

     Jeanne d'Harcourt Dame de Montaigle et de Béthune was born in 1372.^1,2 She married Guillaume II (?) Margrave of Namur, seigneur de Bethune, son of Guillaume I "le Riche" de Dampierre Margrave of Namur, sn de Bethune and Catherine (?) de Savoie, in 1393
; his 2nd wife.^1,2
Jeanne d'Harcourt Dame de Montaigle et de Béthune died on 16 February 1456.^1,2

     Bonne de Bar married Waleran III de Luxembourg Comte de Luxembourg, St. Pol et Ligny, son of Gui de Luxembourg Count of Luxembourg, Comte de St.Pol et Fiennes, Chatelain de Lille and Mahaut de Chatillon Comtesse de St. Pol, on 2 June 1400.^1,6,2,3

Bonne de Bar died after 1419.^1,2
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Cahiers de Saint Louis Magazine. , Jacques Dupont, Jacques Saillot, Reference: vol 30 p66.²

     Jean de Luxembourg Cte de Ligny et de Guise was born in 1392.^1,2,3 He married Jeanne de Bethune Vcts de Meaux, Vendeuil, daughter of Robert VIII de Béthune vicomte de Meaux chevalier banneret, vicomte de Meaux and Isabeau de Ghistelles, on 23 November 1418
; her 2nd husband; date is of contract or similar.^4,1,2,5,6,3
Jean de Luxembourg Cte de Ligny et de Guise died in 1440 at Guise, France (now); Genealogy.EU Luxemburg 9 page says d. 1441; Leo van de Pas says d. 1440.^1,2,6,3
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: vol III page 109.²

     Yolande "the Younger" de Bar married Adolf II-VII von Jülich-Berg herzog von Berg und Ravensberg, herzog von Jülich, son of Wilhelm II-VII (?) Herzog von Berg und Jülich and Anna (?) Pfalzgräfin bei Rhein, in 1400 at Château de Dun
;
His 1st wife.^1,6,7,2,8,4
Yolande "the Younger" de Bar died on 10 January 1421.^1,2,4
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "YOLANDE de Bar (-10 Jan 1421). The Memorienbuch of Düsseldorf St Maria records the death "III Id Jan 1420" of "domine Jolandis de Bare ducisse Montensis conthoralis domini Adolphi ducis de Monte…"[419].
     "m (Château de Dun) as his first wife, ADOLF von Berg, son of WILHELM VII Duke of Jülich and Berg & his wife Anna Pfalzgräfin bei Rhein (-Köln 14 Jul 1437, bur Köln St Martin). He succeeded in 1408 as Graf von Berg und Ravensberg. He succeeded in 1423 as ADOLF Duke of Jülich."
Med Lands cites: [419] Lacomblet, T. J. (ed.) (1860) Archiv für die Geschichte des Niederrheins, Band III (Düsseldorf) Memorienbuch des Canonichenstifts S Mariæ B zu Düsseldorf ("Düsseldorf St Maria Memorienbuch"), p. 126.⁴

     Adolf II-VII von Jülich-Berg herzog von Berg und Ravensberg, herzog von Jülich was born circa 1370.¹⁰ He married Yolande "the Younger" de Bar, daughter of Robert I de Bar Duc de Bar, seigneur de Cassel, Gravelines, Puisaye, Alluye, Brou, Montmirail, Auton, La Bazoche et Nogent-Le-Rotrou and Marie de Valois de France, duchess of Bar, in 1400 at Château de Dun
;
His 1st wife.^1,2,3,4,6,11 Adolf II-VII von Jülich-Berg herzog von Berg und Ravensberg, herzog von Jülich married Elisabeth (?) von Bayern, daughter of Ernst I (?) Duke of Bavaria and Elisabetta Visconti, on 14 February 1430 at Mainz, Germany,
;
His 2nd wife; her 1st husband.^2,3,6,12
Adolf II-VII von Jülich-Berg herzog von Berg und Ravensberg, herzog von Jülich died on 14 July 1437 at Cologne (Köln), Stadtkreis Köln, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany.^1,2,3,4,6
Adolf II-VII von Jülich-Berg herzog von Berg und Ravensberg, herzog von Jülich was buried after 14 July 1437 at Altenberg Cathedral Crypt, Altenberg, Rheinisch-Bergischer Kreis, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     unknown
     DEATH     14 Jul 1437
     Duke of Berg and Jülich. Married in 1401 to Jolanthe von Bar, who died very young. His second marriage was to Elisabeth von Bayern, the daughter of Duke Ernst von Bayern-München (in 1430)
     Family Members
     Parents
          Wilhelm II. von Berg 1348–1408
     Siblings
          Beatrix von Berg 1360–1395
          Margarethe von Jülich-Berg 1364–1442
     BURIAL     Altenberg Cathedral Crypt, Altenberg, Rheinisch-Bergischer Kreis, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
     Created by: Frank K.
     Added: 25 Nov 2009
     Find A Grave Memorial 44800031.⁵
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 27.¹³

; Per Med Lands:
     "ADOLF (-Köln 14 Jul 1437, bur Köln St Martin). "Wilhelm van Guilge…hertzouge van dem Berge ind greue zo Rauensberg ind…Geirhart, Adolff ind Wilhelm gebroedere van dem Berge ind grauen zu Rauensberg" agreed to divide their territories, whereby the sons were granted "sloss Hoekeshoeuen…onsse stat Wipperfurde mit der vesten van Steynbech ind onsse stat Lenepe mit der vesten van Birnfelt", by charter dated 24 Oct 1397[1057]. Duke of Berg 1408. Duke of Jülich 1423. The Memorienbuch of Düsseldorf St Maria records the death "II Id Jul 1437" of "Adolphi Juliacensis et Montensis ducis"[1058]. Betrothed (contract 28 Oct 1397) to KATHARINA von Braunschweig, daughter of HEINRICH II Herzog von Braunschweig in Lüneburg & his first wife Sophie von Pommern (-Grimma 28 Dec 1442, bur Meissen Cathedral). "Hinric hertoge to Brunswic und to Luneborgh" intended to betrothe "Katherinen unse…dochter…wen se erst zwelff jar olt is" to "Adoulff van dem Berge greuen to Ravensberge" by charter dated 28 Oct 1397[1059].
     "m firstly (Château de Dun 1400) YOLANDE de Bar, daughter of ROBERT I Duke of Bar & his wife Marie de France [Valois-Capet] (-10 Jan 1421). The Memorienbuch of Düsseldorf St Maria records the death "III Id Jan 1420" of "domine Jolandis de Bare ducisse Montensis conthoralis domini Adolphi ducis de Monte…"[1060].
     "m secondly (Mainz 14 Feb 1430) as her first husband, ELISABETH von Bayern, daughter of ERNST Duke of Bavaria in Munich & his wife Elisabetta Visconti of Milan (-Heidelberg 5 Mar 1468, bur Kloster Höningen). Ulrich Füetrer’s Bayerische Chronik names “Margreta...die ander...Elysabeth” as the two daughters of “Hertzog Ernst des ietz jüngst gemelten hertzog Johannsen sun” and his wife “Elysabeth von Mayland”, adding that Elisabeth married “dem hertzogen vom Perg”[1061]. She married secondly (Worms 4 Oct 1440) Hesso Graf von Leiningen-Dagsburg."
Med Lands cites:

; See Wikipedia entry.¹⁰ He was Graf von Ravensberg between 1395 and 1405.¹⁰ He was Graf von Berg between 1408 and 1437.¹⁰ He was Graf von Jülich between 1423 and 1437.¹⁰

     Joanna de Bar married Teodoro II Palaiologos Margrave di Montferrato, Signore di Savona, son of Giovanni II Palaiologos Margrave of Montferrato, Signore di Asti, Signore de Novara, Vicario Imperiale and Doña Isabel (?) Queen of Majorca, on 8 September 1393
; his 2nd wife.^5,2
Joanna de Bar died on 15 January 1402 at Casale.^1,2

     Teodoro II Palaiologos Margrave di Montferrato, Signore di Savona was born in 1364 at Casale.^1,2 He married Argentina de Malaspina di Lunigiani, daughter of Leonard de Malaspina Marquis di Lunigiani,
; his 1st wife.¹ Teodoro II Palaiologos Margrave di Montferrato, Signore di Savona married Joanna de Bar, daughter of Robert I de Bar Duc de Bar, seigneur de Cassel, Gravelines, Puisaye, Alluye, Brou, Montmirail, Auton, La Bazoche et Nogent-Le-Rotrou and Marie de Valois de France, duchess of Bar, on 8 September 1393
; his 2nd wife.^1,2 Teodoro II Palaiologos Margrave di Montferrato, Signore di Savona married Margherita (?) of Achaia, daughter of Amadeo (?) of Savoy, Prince of Acaia, Signore del Piemonte and Catherine (?) of Geneva, on 17 January 1403
; his 3rd wife.^3,1
Teodoro II Palaiologos Margrave di Montferrato, Signore di Savona died on 18 August 1418 at Moncalvo, Italy (now).^1,2
      ; Teodoro II, Mgve of Montferrato (1381-1418), Captain general (=Doge) of Genoa (1409-13), Signore di Savona (1409-13), Imperial vicary in Italy, *Casale 1364, +Moncalvo 26.5./2.12.1418; 1m: Argentina (+1387), dau.of Marquis Leonard de Malaspina di Lunigiani; 2m: 8.9.1393 Joanna de Bar (+15.1.1402); 3m: 17.1.1403 Pss Margherita of Achaia (*VI.1390 +23.11.1464.)¹ He was Marquis de Montferrat between 1381 and 1418.¹ He was Captain general (=Doge) of Genoa between 1409 and 1413 at Genoa, Città Metropolitana di Genova, Liguria, Italy (now).¹

     Eleanore de Bar married Raoul I «Le Vaillant» (?) duc de Lorraine, son of Frederick IV (?) Duke of Lorraine and Elizabeth (?) of Austria, on 25 June 1329 at Pont-à-Mousson, France (now),
; Genealogy.EU (Lorraine 2 page) says m. 1329; Genealogy.EU (Bar 2 page) says m. 1330.^1,3,4
Eleanore de Bar died on 15 September 1333.^3,4

     Katharina (?) of Austria was born in 1342.¹
Katharina (?) of Austria died on 10 January 1381 at Vienna, Austria.¹
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: 1.1.41.¹ She was Abbess at St. Klara, Vienna, Austria.²

     Gisclafred (?) Count of Carcassone and Rasez died circa 821.¹

     Richilde (?) married Oliva/Oliba I (?) Count of Carcassonne, son of Belló (?) Conde de Carcassonne.^1,2

Richilde (?) died after 10 May 837.²
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "m secondly RICHILDA, daughter of --- (-after 10 May 837). "Richildis femina que fui uxor de conda Olibani comiti" signed a charter dated 10 May 837 relating to the "villa de Faviès" subscribed by "Lighatario, Centullus, Samson, Uczandus, Hugo, Eles"[198]."
Med Lands cites: [198] Grasse 12, p. 19.²

     Acfredo I (?) Count of Carcasssone and Rasez married Adelinda (?) d'Aquitaine, daughter of Bernard Plantevelue (?) Cte d'Autun, de Rodez, d'Auvergne et de Toulouse, marquis de Gothie and Ermengarde d'Auvergne.^1,3,4

Acfredo I (?) Count of Carcasssone and Rasez died before 19 February 906.^1,4
      ; Ct Acfredo I of Carcassone and Rasez, +906; m.Adelinda, dau.of Bernard Plantvelue, Cte d'Autun, de Rodez et d'Auvergne, and sister of Guillaume "le Pieux", Duc d'Aquitaine.¹

     Adelinda (?) d'Aquitaine married Acfredo I (?) Count of Carcasssone and Rasez, son of Oliva/Oliba I (?) Count of Carcassonne.^1,2,8

      ; Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 731.⁹

; Per Med Lands:
     "ADALINDA . She is named as wife of Acfred in their son's grant to Cluny dated 2 Oct 927, her origin being deduced from his reference to "…avunculis meis Wilelmo et Guarino…" in the same document[168]. "Acfredus" donated property to Saint-Julien de Brioude, for the souls of "genitoris mei Acfredi et genitricis meæ Adalendis et avunculorum meorum Garini atque Guillelmi et fratrum meorum Bernardi necnon etiam Guillelmi", by charter dated 11 Oct [927][169].
     "m ACFRED, son of ---. His name is confirmed by his son's grant to Cluny dated 2 Oct 927[170]. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[171], he was Acfred [I] Comte de Carcassonne ([830/40]-906). The primary source on which this is based has not yet been identified. It is possible that the co-identity is based only on speculation from the Cluny charter of Acfred Duke of Aquitaine, dated 2 Oct 927, which names his parents as Acfred and Adelinda, and on the assumption that Acfred [I] Comte de Carcassonne was the only contemporary nobleman of this name[172]. Another indication that this co-identity may not be correct is the charter dated 19 Feb 906 under which "Adalindes comitissa", widow of Acfred [I] Comte de Carcassonne, donated property with the consent of "Acfredo filio Acfredo"[173]. If Acfred de Carcassonne was the same person as Acfred, father of the two dukes of Aquitaine, it is surprising that his other two known sons did not consent to, or were not otherwise named in, this donation."
Med Lands cites:

; Adelinda, dau.of Bernard Plantvelue, Cte d'Autun, de Rodez et d'Auvergne, and sister of Guillaume "le Pieux", Duc d'Aquitaine.¹ Adelinda (?) d'Aquitaine was also known as Adelinda d'Auvergne.⁹

     Bencio I (?) Count of Carcassonne and Rasez was born between 860 and 870.²
Bencio I (?) Count of Carcassonne and Rasez died in 908.^1,2
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "BENCIO [I] ([860/70]-908). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Comte de Carcassonne. A charter of Charles III “le Simple” King of the West Franks dated 3 Nov 908, confirming the assets of “monasterio Crassensi”, mentions property donated by “Bencio comes bonæ memoriæ” which “Oliba comes” held[207]."
Med Lands cites: [207] RHGF, Tome IX, XXXIX, p. 505.²

     Agnes (?) married Raymond de Narbonne-Pelet Co-seigneur d’Ales, son of Bernard I 'Pelet de Narbonne.¹

Agnes (?) died after July 1120.¹
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "m AGNES, daughter of --- (-after Jul 1120). "Dominus Bermundus [error for Raymundus?] Pelet et uxor sua…Agne" donated "ecclesia Sancti Petri Malonensis" to Conques by charter dated Jul 1120[880]. Raymond & his wife had two children:
Med Lands cites: [880] Liber Montpellier, CCIV, p. 349 [J.-C. Chuat] and Spicilegium, Tome III, p. 558.¹

     Bernard Plantevelue (?) Cte d'Autun, de Rodez, d'Auvergne et de Toulouse, marquis de Gothie married Ermengarde d'Auvergne, daughter of Bernard I d'Auvergne comte d'Auvergne and Lieugardis (?).^{8,3,9,5,10,11}
Bernard Plantevelue (?) Cte d'Autun, de Rodez, d'Auvergne et de Toulouse, marquis de Gothie was born on 22 March 841 at Uzès, France (now).^9,8,5
Bernard Plantevelue (?) Cte d'Autun, de Rodez, d'Auvergne et de Toulouse, marquis de Gothie died between 20 June 885 and 30 August 886; Stewart email and Med Lands say d. 20 Jun 0884-30 Aug 0886.^8,9,5
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 731.⁹

; Per Genealogics:
     “Possibly a son of Bernard Count of Autun and Dhuoda
     “Bernard was born on 22 March 841, possibly son of Bernard, count of Autun, margrave of Septimanie and Dhuoda. His name of Plantevelue or Plantapilosa meant Hairy feet of Hairy paws. His mother's _Liber Manualis_ mentions that he was born at Uzès in the year following the death of the Holy Roman Emperor Louis I 'the Pious' (20 June 840). He was appointed margrave of Septimanie (or Gothia) sometime before 868. He was the lay abbot of Brioude between 857 and 868 and count of Autun from 864 to 869. He was count of Auvergne (as Bernard II) from 872 to his death. Karl III 'the Fat', emperor, king of the East- and West-Franks, granted Bernard the title of margrave of Aquitaine in 885.
     “Bernard married Ermengarde, the daughter of Bernard I, comes (count) of Auvergne, and Lieugardis. They had two children, Guillaume and Adelinda. Guillaume would become Guillaume I 'le Pieux', duke of Aquitaine.
     “Bernard was deposed as count of Autun sometime before 876 and replaced by Bernard of Gothia in that year. He returned to favour under Charles 'the Fat'. At sometime during the war against Boso of Provence, he obtained the county of Mâcon.
     “He died between 20 June 885 and August 886.”.⁹

; This is the same person as:
”Bernard Plantapilosa” at Wikipedia and as
”Bernard Plantevelue” at Wikipédia (Fr.)^12,13 Bernard Plantevelue (?) Cte d'Autun, de Rodez, d'Auvergne et de Toulouse, marquis de Gothie was also known as Bernard II Plantevelue (?) Comte d'Auvergne, Comte d'Autun.^8,2 GAV-29.

; Per Stewart email [2004]:
     "...it is certain that the Bernard who was married to Liedgardis was a count & that he was lay abbot of Saint-Julien, but not that they were parents of the Ermengardis who married Bernard Plantevelue.
     "A couple of differing theories that may still be circulating in some quarters are:
     "Maurice Chaume's (in volume 1 of _Les origines du duché de Bourgogne_ (4 vols, Dijon, 1925-31), that she was daughter of Hugo, count of Bourges.
     "Constance Bouchard's (in 'Family Structure and Family Consciousness among the Aristocracy in the Ninth to Eleventh Centuries', _Francia_ 14/1 (1986)), that she was daughter of Count Warin and Aba (Albana).
     "This is part of the trilogy of pieces which I mentioned earlier, dealing with the evolution of the church's proscription of consanguineous marriages.
     "In both cases the argument is largely confined to onomastics. Neither is persuasive enough to overturn the conventional guess outlined earlier, but then of course that is far enough from satisfactory that alternatives are still put forward.
     "It will be interesting to see what Christian Settipani makes of this & the other Bernards and their families in the long-awaited second part of his book on the Capetian pre-history. I hope to avoid thrashing around it further on SGM, and muddying the waters for some partipants' databases, before that is published."¹⁴

; Per Med Lands:
     "BERNARD "Plantevelue", son of BERNARD Marquis of Septimania & his wife Doda --- (Uzès 22 Mar 841-[20 Jun 885/16 Aug 886], maybe 6 Jan 886). The Manual of Dhuoda records the birth "XI Kal Apr", in the year following the death of Emperor Louis, at "Uzecia urbes" of the second child [Bernard] of Doda and her husband Bernard[130]. The Annales Bertiniani name "rex markiones Bernardum scilicet Tolosæ et iterum Bernardum Gothiæ, itemque Bernardum alium" in 868[131], this being Bernard Marquis of Gothia, although the date of his appointment has not so far been traced. Lay Abbot of Brioude 857/68. Comte d'Autun 864/69, deposed. "Bernardus comes et uxor eius Ermengardis" donated property "ecclesiam…in villa…Viciaco…et in villa Lubiriaco…et in villa…Dignaciaco…in…patria Arvernica in vicaria Randanensi" to Saint-Julien de Brioude by charter dated 10 Mar [867][132]. Comte de Rodez/Rouergue 864/74. Comte d'Auvergne after 872. The Annales Bertiniani name "Bernardum Arvenicum comitem" in 877[133]. "Petrus" donated property "in pago Arvernico in comitatu Brivatensi in vicaria Nonatensi..." to Saint-Julien de Brioude for the souls of "Bernardi...comitis necnon...Bernardi comitis eiusque conjugis Inmengardis...comitissa, horumque prolis" by charter dated Jan "anno secundo regnante rege Francorum Carolo"[134]. "Bernardus…comes et uxor mea Hermengardis" donated property "in pago Rutenico, in vicaria Severiacense…villa…Bautone" to the abbey of Conques by charter dated 21 Jul 882[135]. "Bernardus comes et uxor mea Hermengardis" donated property to Conques abbey by charter dated 21 Jul 883[136]. He obtained the county of Mâcon during the wars between the Carolingians and the Bosonids[137]. The 13th century obituary of the Eglise primatiale de Lyon records the death "VIII Id Jan" of "Bernardus comes"[138], although it is not certain that this relates to the same person.
     "m ERMENGARDE, daughter of [BERNARD Comte [d'Auvergne] & his wife Liegardis ---] (-after 21 Jul 883). Ermengarde is shown in Europäische Stammtafeln as the daughter of Bernard and his wife Liegardis[139]. The primary source on which this information is based has not yet been identified. It is possible that it results from the charter dated Jan "anno secundo regnante rege Francorum Carolo" under which "Petrus" donated property "in pago Arvernico in comitatu Brivatensi in vicaria Nonatensi..." to Saint-Julien de Brioude for the souls of "Bernardi...comitis necnon...Bernardi comitis eiusque conjugis Inmengardis...comitissa, horumque prolis"[140]. The document does not specify any family relationship between the first-named Comte Bernard and the second or his wife Ermengarde. If such a family relationship existed, one of the possibilities is that Ermengarde was the daughter of the first Bernard. "Bernardus comes et uxor eius Ermengardis" donated property "ecclesiam…in villa…Viciaco…et in villa Lubiriaco…et in villa…Dignaciaco…in…patria Arvernica in vicaria Randanensi" to Saint-Julien de Brioude by charter dated 10 Mar [867][141]. "Bernardus comes et uxor mea Hermengardis" donated property to Conques abbey by charter dated 21 Jul 883[142]. "Bernardus…comes et uxor mea Hermengardis" donated property "in pago Rutenico, in vicaria Severiacense…villa…Bautone" to the abbey of Conques by charter dated 21 Jul 882[143]. "Princeps et marchio Willelmus" donated property to the church of Holy Trinity "pro…animæ patris mei Bernardi et matris meæ Ermengardis…" by charter dated Nov 916[144]. Her parents are shown in Europäische Stammtafeln[145] but the primary source on which this is based has not yet been identified. "
Med Lands cites:

; Per Stewart email [2004]:
     "Bernhard II known as Plantevelue (Plantapilosa), born at Uzès on 22 March 841, was lay abbot of Saint-Julien de Brioude (evidently by right of his wife), count of Autun, Rodez & Auvergne (after 872), and died between 20 June 885 & August 886. His wife Ermengardis (birth year unknown, died after June 881) was daughter of another Count Bernhard & Liedgardis - he is thought to have been count of Auvergne & lay abbot of Saint-Julien de Brioude, but this is not certain."⁸

; Per Med Lands:
     "[ERMENGARDE (-after 21 Jul 883). Ermengarde is shown in Europäische Stammtafeln as the daughter of Bernard and his wife Liegardis[924]. The primary source on which this information is based has not yet been identified. It is possible that it results from the charter dated Jan "anno secundo regnante rege Francorum Carolo" under which "Petrus" donated property "in pago Arvernico in comitatu Brivatensi in vicaria Nonatensi..." to Saint-Julien de Brioude for the souls of "Bernardi...comitis necnon...Bernardi comitis eiusque conjugis Inmengardis...comitissa, horumque prolis"[925]. The document does not specify any family relationship between the first-named Comte Bernard and the second or his wife Ermengarde. If such a family relationship existed, one of the possibilities is that Ermengarde was the daughter of the first Bernard. "Bernardus comes et uxor eius Ermengardis" donated property "ecclesiam…in villa…Viciaco…et in villa Lubiriaco…et in villa…Dignaciaco…in…patria Arvernica in vicaria Randanensi" to Saint-Julien de Brioude by charter dated 10 Mar [867][926]. "Bernardus comes et uxor mea Hermengardis" donated property to Conques abbey by charter dated 21 Jul 883[927]. "Princeps et marchio Willelmus" donated property to the church of Holy Trinity "pro…animæ patris mei Bernardi et matris meæ Ermengardis…" by charter dated Nov 916[928].
     "m BERNARD "Plantevelue", son of BERNARD Marquis of Septimania & his wife Doda --- (Uzès 22 Mar 841-[20 Jun 885/16 Aug 886], maybe 6 Jan 886). Comte d'Autun 864-869. Comte d'Auvergne after 872.]"
Med Lands cites: He was Comte d'Autun - deposed between 864 and 869.⁵ He was Comte de Rodez/Rouergue between 864 and 874.⁵ He was Comte d'Auvergne after 872.⁵

     Guillaume "le Pieux" (?) Duc d'Aquitaine was born circa 860; Genealogics says b. ca 860; Med Lands says b ca 860/65.^4,3 He married Engelberge|Ingelburga (?), daughter of Boson V (?) Ct of Bourges, Cte de Vienne et d'Arles, Duke of Lombardy, Governor of Provence, King of Provence, King of Aquitaine and Ermengarde (?) of Italy, Queen of Provence, before 898
; Genealogy.EU (Boson page) says m. ca 900.^10,4,3,11,12
Guillaume "le Pieux" (?) Duc d'Aquitaine died on 6 July 918.^10,4,3
Guillaume "le Pieux" (?) Duc d'Aquitaine was buried after 6 July 918 at Basilica of St. Julien, Brioude, Departement de la Haute-Loire, Auvergne, France; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     unknown, Auvergne, France
     DEATH     28 Jun, Lyon, Departement du Rhône, Rhône-Alpes, France
     Born Mar. 22, 875; died Jul. 6, 925.
     William was a son of Bernard II of Auvergne and his wife, Emergarde de Chalons. He succeeded his father as count of Auvergne and the Limousin in 886. In 893, William conquered Poitou and Aquitaine on behalf of Ebalus Manser, the natural son of Ranulf II of Aquitaine. He kept Aquitaine for himself and was declared duke. He held the duchy until his death (Ebalus reclaimed it in 927). Among other monasteries, William founded the Cluny Abbey. It was a Benedictine abbey that answered only to the Pope, starting a new monastic trend. He also had silver coins (denairs) minted in his name in Brioude, where he was buried. William married Engleberga, daughter of Boso of Provence and Ermengard, but left no issue.
     BURIAL     Basilica of St. Julien, Brioude, Departement de la Haute-Loire, Auvergne, France
     Created by: Darrell and Joan Mansur
     Added: 24 Jul 2015
     Find a Grave Memorial 149745159.¹³
      ; Per Genealogics: "Son of Bernard Plantevelue, Count of Auvergne, and Ermengarde, he was Duke of Aquitaine, and in 892 also became Count of Bourges and, in 893, Count of Macon and lay-Abbot of Brioude. Before 898 he married Engelberge, daughter of the King of Lower-Burgundy and they became the parents of a son and a daughter. In 910 he founded the abbey of Cluny. He died either 28 June or 6 July 918." GAV-30.

; Per Bunot:
     "In his recent La Noblesse du Midi Carolingien,Christian Settipani has a slightly different version for the ancestry of Ermengarde d’Auvergne, comtesse of Blois. You will notice that Settipani proposes the existence of another new daughter of Guillaume le Pieux, comte d’Auvergne and duc d’Aquitaine, an Engelberge, married to Dalmatius, vicomte et abbe de Brioude. I am not summarizing his (rather convincing though circumstancial) argument in favor of this hypothesis because of its exceptional density and invite you simply to read it and make yourself an opinion. It is based (as usual) on onomastics and also the transmission of important properties in Auvergne. Jean Bunot. It goes like this :

; This is the same person as ”William I, Duke of Aquitaine” at Wikipedia and as ”Guillaume le Pieux” at Wikipédia (FR).^15,16 Guillaume "le Pieux" (?) Duc d'Aquitaine was also known as Guillaume I (?) Duc d'Aquitaine.¹⁰

; Per Racines et Histoire (Toulouse): “Guillaume 1er «Le Pieux» d’Aquitaine + 06/07/918 marquis de Gothie (886, succède à son père ; confirmé par charte impériale 16/08/886), comte d’Auvergne, de Berry, de Mâcon, Limousin et Lyon, intitulé duc (dux, 893) après l’avènement de Charles III «Le Simple» puis duc des Aquitains (dès 909) ”.¹⁷

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 731.
2. The Templars, London, 1999 , Read, Piers Paul. page 59.⁴

; Per Med Lands:
     "GUILLAUME ([860/65]-6 Jul 918, bur Abbaye de Brioude, Haute-Loire). "Karolus…imperator Augustus" confirms that "Willelmo comite" replaced "patris sui Bernardi comitis" after the latter was killed, by charter dated 16 Aug 886[146]. His birth date is estimated on the assumption that he was a young adult at the time. He is named as brother of "Hava abbatissa" in the latter's charter dated Nov 893[147]. "Acfred dux Aquitanorum" donated property "pro anima…et avunculis meis Wilelmo et Guarino…" to Cluny by charter dated 2 Oct 927[148]. He succeeded his father in 886 as Marquis of Gothia, Comte d'Auvergne, de Berry, de Mâcon, de Limousin, et de Lyon. The Chronicle of Saint-Maxence names "Ramnulfus comes…Pictavensis" as "consanguineus…Willelmi…comitis Arvernorum"[149], although the precise relationship has not been traced. Comte de Bourges 892. Comte de Macon, abbé laic de Brioude 893. He was recorded as dux shortly after the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 893, and as dux Aquitanorum for the first time in 909[150], later known as GUILLAUME I "le Pieux" Duke of Aquitaine. “Willelmus comes marchio atque dux” donated property to Brioude Saint-Julien, providing for “post obitum meum neque uxor mea, neque filii nostri, neque filiæ, si habuerimus”, by charter dated May 898, subscribed by “Willelmi, Ingelbergæ”[151]. “Guillelmus...comes et dux...et uxor mea Ingelberga” founded the monastery of Cluny, for “Avanæ” who bequeathed the property to him (“que michi easdem res testamentatio jure concessit”), by charter dated 11 Sep 910[152]. "Princeps et marchio Willelmus" donated property "in patria Arvernica, in comitatu Brivatense…in villa Carisiaceco" to the church of Holy Trinity "pro…animæ patris mei Bernardi et matris meæ Ermengardis…et sororis meæ Adalendis et filorum eius" by charter dated Nov 916, signed by "Ingelbergæ, Wilhelmi, Acfredi, Bosoni…"[153]. The Annales Masciacenses record in 919 the deaths of “Guilelmus famosus dux Aquitanorum...coniunx eius Ingelberga”[154].
     "m (before May 898) ENGELBERGA, daughter of BOSON King [of Provence] & his second wife Ermengardis [Carolingian] ([877]-919). “Willelmus comes marchio atque dux” donated property to Brioude Saint-Julien, providing for “post obitum meum neque uxor mea, neque filii nostri, neque filiæ, si habuerimus”, by charter dated May 898, subscribed by “Willelmi, Ingelbergæ”[155]. Engelberga is named as co-founder with her husband of the monastery of Cluny in a charter dated 11 Sep 910[156]. Her origin is deduced from her donation to Cluny with her husband dated Jan 917, in which her brother "Ludovico" is named[157]. The Annales Masciacenses record in 919 the deaths of “Guilelmus famosus dux Aquitanorum...coniunx eius Ingelberga”[158]. She died as a nun at San Sisto, Piacenza.
     "Duke Guillaume I & his wife had [two] children [the May 898 charter quoted above indicates that Guillaume had no daughters at the time, maybe no sons either although the text is unclear on that point (“neque uxor mea, neque filii nostri, neque filiæ, si habuerimus”)]:
a) BOSO (-[25 Dec 920/Jun 926]). "Boso filius eius" is named, immediately after "Wilelmi senioris mei", in two donation for their souls made by "Gauzfredus comes" dated 8 Apr 936 and Jun 936[159].
b) [daughter. This is a speculative connection based only on onomastics[160]. m ROTBALD [I] d'Agel [Provence], son of --- (-[949]).] "
Med Lands cites:

; Per Med Lands:
     "ENGELBERGA ([877]-919). Her parentage and marriage are deduced from her donation to Cluny with her husband dated Jan 917, in which her brother "Ludovico" is named[28]. The Annales Bertiniani record the betrothal in 878 of "filiam Bosonis" and "Karlomanno filio suo [=Hlodowici rex]"[29]. It is assumed that this daughter was Engelberga, who must have been an infant at the time, but no proof has been found which confirms that this is correct. "Bosonis" could refer either to the future King Boson or to Count Boson, husband of the adulterous Engiltrudis (see below). While Boson of Provence had refused to swear allegiance to Louis II "le Bègue" King of the West Franks ("Hlodowici rex") on the latter's accession, it is not known whether he was still in rebellion the following year. Assuming that some reconciliation had taken place, a marriage alliance between the two parties would have been a likely possibility. The other Count Boson was presumably of less political importance and, in addition, his problems with his adulterous wife may have rendered his daughters unmarriageable at the time. The Annales Bertiniani indicate that Engelberga was born from her father´s [second] marriage when they record that "Richardus frater Bosonis" took “uxorem Bosonis et filiam eius” back to “comitatum suum Augustudensem” in 882 after the capture of Vienne by the forces of King Carloman[30]. Engelberga is named as co-founder with her husband of the monastery of Cluny in a charter dated 11 Sep 910[31]. The Annales Masciacenses record in 919 the deaths of “Guilelmus famosus dux Aquitanorum...coniunx eius Ingelberga”[32]. She died as a nun at San Sisto, Piacenza.
     "[Betrothed (11 Sep 878) to CARLOMAN, son of LOUIS II "le Bègue" King of the Franks & his first wife Ansgardis --- (867-killed accidentally Bézu-la-Forêt, near Andelys, Eure 6 Dec 884, bur église de l'abbaye royale de Saint-Denis). He succeeded his brother in 882 as CARLOMAN King of the West Franks.]
     "m (before 898[33]) GUILLAUME I "le Pieux" Duke of Aquitaine, son of BERNARD "Plantevelue" Comte d'Auvergne & his wife Ermengarde [d'Auvergne] (-6 Jul 918, bur Abbaye de Brioude, Haute-Loire)."
Med Lands cites:

     Guillaume II "le Jeune" (?) Duc d'Aquitaine, Cte d'Auvergne et de Macon died between 926 and 927.¹
      ; Duc d'Aquitaine.¹

     Bernard III d'Auvergne Comte d'Auvergne was living in 932.¹

     Etienne d'Auvergne was living in 936.¹