Muniadomna (?)1

F, #94711
ReferenceGAV29
Last Edited6 Jul 2020
     Muniadomna (?) married Gundemaro Pinioliz (?), son of Piñolo Gundemáriz (?).1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "GUNDEMARO Pinioliz (-before 1012). Armiger 976. “...Gundemarus Pinioliz...” subscribed the charter dated 24 Dec 988 under which Vermudo II King of León donated “homines...in Uangueses cum incommuniatos de Cegio” to Celanova[474]. Conde en Asturias 996.
     "m MUNIADOMNA, daughter of ---."
Med Lands cites:
[474] Celanova, Tome II, 204, p. 224.1
GAV-29.

Family

Gundemaro Pinioliz (?) d. b 1012
Child

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SPANISH%20NOBILITY%20EARLY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#PinioloGundemariz. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SPANISH%20NOBILITY%20EARLY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#FernandoGundemarizMMumadona

Ada (?)1

F, #94712
FatherDavid (?) Earl of Huntingdon1,2 b. c 1144, d. 17 Jun 1219
MotherUnknown (?)1,2
Last Edited4 Jul 2020
     Ada (?) married Malise (?), son of Ferchard|Ferquhard|Fereth (?) 2nd Earl of Strathearn and Ethen/Ethna (?).3,1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "ADA . The undated charter, dated to before 1203 from the names of the subscribers, under which "Comes David frater regis Scottorum" founded Lindores Abbey refers to land "in villa de Neutile" donated by "Ada filia mea, uxor Malisii filii comitis Fertheth"[490]. As noted above, secondary sources mostly show Ada as David’s illegitimate daughter. The fact that she was given his mother’s name may indicate that she was legitimate, born from a possible first marriage. "Malisius filius comitis Fertheth frater comitis Gilberti de Strathern" donated "Rathangothen" to Lindores Abbey, for the soul of "uxoris mee filie comitis David", by undated charter, witnessed by "Waltero Olifard, David de Lindeseia…David Olifard…"[491]. "Ada filia comitis David uxor Malisii filii comitis Fertheth" donated land "in villa de Balemagh" to Lindores Abbey by undated charter[492].
     "m MALISE, son of FERTETH [Ferquhard] Earl of Strathearn & his wife Ethen --- ([after 1150]-)."
Med Lands cites:
[490] Lindores, II, p. 2.
[491] Lindores, XXIX, p. 32.
[492] Lindores, XXXVI, p. 38.1


; Per Med Lands:
     "MALISE (after [1150]-after [1211]). "Gilbertus comes de Strathern" donated "ecclesiam sancti Cathani de Aberruadeuien" to Inchaffray, for the souls of "pater meus Ferthet et mater mea Ethen", by charter dated to [1198], witnessed by "Malis fratre comitis, Gillecrist filio comitis…Dunecano filio Malisii, Maulde comitissa de Strathern…"[651]. "Gilebertus comes de Strathern" donated "ecclesiam de Madernin" to Inchaffray by charter dated to [1199], witnessed by "Malisio fratre meo, Mathilde comitissa, Willelmo et Ferthed et Roberto filiis meis…"[652]. A charter dated 1200 records the foundation of Inchaffray Abbey by "Gilbertus filius Ferthead…comes de Stradern et…Matilidis filia Willelmi de Aubengni comitissa", for the soul of "Gillecrist primogeniti nostri ibidem quiescentis", the dating clause of which refers to "ad obitu prenominati filii nostri Gillecrist anno secundo, obiit autem III Non Oct", witnessed by "…Robertus de Quinci, Seierus de Quinci, Malisius frater comitis, Willelmus, Ferthead et Robertus filii comitis…Dunecanus filius Malisii…"[653]. "…M. comitissa de Stratherr, Malisio fratre comitis, Ferthet filio comitis, Matilda filia comitis…Dunecano filio Malihs…" subscribed the charter dated to [1200] under which "Gilbertus comes de Stratheren" donated property to Inchaffray Abbey[654]. "…Malisio fratre comitis, Matilda comissa…Willelmo, Fertet, Roberto, Fergus, Malisio, Gillecrist filiis meis…" subscribed the charter dated to [1203/08] under which "Gilebertus comes de Stradhern" donated property to Inchaffray Abbey[655]. "…Malisio filio comitis Fertheth, W. Olifart…" subscribed the undated charter under which "Comes David frater regis Scocie" donated "Culsamuel et…Munkegyn" to Lindores Abbey[656]. "Malisius filius comitis Fertheth frater comitis Gilberti de Strathern" donated "Rathangothen" to Lindores Abbey, for the soul of "uxoris mee filie comitis David", by undated charter, witnessed by "Waltero Olifard, David de Lindeseia…David Olifard…"[657]. "…M. fratre meo, M. comitissa, Roberto filio et herede meo et aliis filiis meis…" subscribed the charter dated 1210 under which "G. comes de Strathern" donated "ecclesiam sancti Beani de Foulis" to Inchaffray Abbey[658]. "G. comite, Malisio fratre eius, Roberto filio comitis, Fergus fratre eius…" subscribed the charter dated to [1211] under which confirms the donation by "G. comitis de Strathern" of "ecclesiam sancti Cathani de Aberrotheuin" to Inchaffray Abbey[659].
     "m ADA, daughter of DAVID of Scotland Earl of Huntingdon & his [first wife ---]. The undated charter, dated to before 1203 from the names of the subscribers, under which "Comes David frater regis Scottorum" founded Lindores Abbey refers to land "in villa de Neutile" donated by "Ada filia mea, uxor Malisii filii comitis Fertheth"[660]. "Malisius filius comitis Fertheth frater comitis Gilberti de Strathern" donated "Rathangothen" to Lindores Abbey, for the soul of "uxoris mee filie comitis David", by undated charter, witnessed by "Waltero Olifard, David de Lindeseia…David Olifard…"[661]. "Ada filia comitis David uxor Malisii filii comitis Fertheth" donated land "in villa de Balemagh" to Lindores Abbey by undated charter[662]. Malise & his wife had [two] children (there is no direct proof that the father of these two children was the brother of Earl Gilbert, but the proximity of their names in the charter subscriptions quoted below suggests that this might be the case)"
Med Lands cites:
[651] Inchaffray, III, p. 2.
[652] Inchaffray, IV, p. 3.
[653] Inchaffray, IX, p. 6.
[654] Inchaffray, XI, p. 11.
[655] Inchaffray, XXV, p. 23.
[656] Lindores, V, p. 10.
[657] Lindores, XXIX, p. 32.
[658] Inchaffray, XXVIII, p. 25.
[659] Inchaffray, XXX, p. 26.
[660] Lindores, II, p. 2.
[661] Lindores, XXIX, p. 32.
[662] Lindores, XXXVI, p. 38.3

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#AdaMMaliseStrathearn. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#Daviddied1219
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#MaliseMAdaScotland

Malise (?)1

M, #94713, b. after 1150, d. after 1211
FatherFerchard|Ferquhard|Fereth (?) 2nd Earl of Strathearn1,2 d. b Dec 1170
MotherEthen/Ethna (?)1,3
Last Edited30 Jul 2020
     Malise (?) married Ada (?), daughter of David (?) Earl of Huntingdon and Unknown (?).1,4 Malise (?) was born after 1150.1
Malise (?) died after 1211.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "MALISE (after [1150]-after [1211]). "Gilbertus comes de Strathern" donated "ecclesiam sancti Cathani de Aberruadeuien" to Inchaffray, for the souls of "pater meus Ferthet et mater mea Ethen", by charter dated to [1198], witnessed by "Malis fratre comitis, Gillecrist filio comitis…Dunecano filio Malisii, Maulde comitissa de Strathern…"[651]. "Gilebertus comes de Strathern" donated "ecclesiam de Madernin" to Inchaffray by charter dated to [1199], witnessed by "Malisio fratre meo, Mathilde comitissa, Willelmo et Ferthed et Roberto filiis meis…"[652]. A charter dated 1200 records the foundation of Inchaffray Abbey by "Gilbertus filius Ferthead…comes de Stradern et…Matilidis filia Willelmi de Aubengni comitissa", for the soul of "Gillecrist primogeniti nostri ibidem quiescentis", the dating clause of which refers to "ad obitu prenominati filii nostri Gillecrist anno secundo, obiit autem III Non Oct", witnessed by "…Robertus de Quinci, Seierus de Quinci, Malisius frater comitis, Willelmus, Ferthead et Robertus filii comitis…Dunecanus filius Malisii…"[653]. "…M. comitissa de Stratherr, Malisio fratre comitis, Ferthet filio comitis, Matilda filia comitis…Dunecano filio Malihs…" subscribed the charter dated to [1200] under which "Gilbertus comes de Stratheren" donated property to Inchaffray Abbey[654]. "…Malisio fratre comitis, Matilda comissa…Willelmo, Fertet, Roberto, Fergus, Malisio, Gillecrist filiis meis…" subscribed the charter dated to [1203/08] under which "Gilebertus comes de Stradhern" donated property to Inchaffray Abbey[655]. "…Malisio filio comitis Fertheth, W. Olifart…" subscribed the undated charter under which "Comes David frater regis Scocie" donated "Culsamuel et…Munkegyn" to Lindores Abbey[656]. "Malisius filius comitis Fertheth frater comitis Gilberti de Strathern" donated "Rathangothen" to Lindores Abbey, for the soul of "uxoris mee filie comitis David", by undated charter, witnessed by "Waltero Olifard, David de Lindeseia…David Olifard…"[657]. "…M. fratre meo, M. comitissa, Roberto filio et herede meo et aliis filiis meis…" subscribed the charter dated 1210 under which "G. comes de Strathern" donated "ecclesiam sancti Beani de Foulis" to Inchaffray Abbey[658]. "G. comite, Malisio fratre eius, Roberto filio comitis, Fergus fratre eius…" subscribed the charter dated to [1211] under which confirms the donation by "G. comitis de Strathern" of "ecclesiam sancti Cathani de Aberrotheuin" to Inchaffray Abbey[659].
     "m ADA, daughter of DAVID of Scotland Earl of Huntingdon & his [first wife ---]. The undated charter, dated to before 1203 from the names of the subscribers, under which "Comes David frater regis Scottorum" founded Lindores Abbey refers to land "in villa de Neutile" donated by "Ada filia mea, uxor Malisii filii comitis Fertheth"[660]. "Malisius filius comitis Fertheth frater comitis Gilberti de Strathern" donated "Rathangothen" to Lindores Abbey, for the soul of "uxoris mee filie comitis David", by undated charter, witnessed by "Waltero Olifard, David de Lindeseia…David Olifard…"[661]. "Ada filia comitis David uxor Malisii filii comitis Fertheth" donated land "in villa de Balemagh" to Lindores Abbey by undated charter[662]. Malise & his wife had [two] children (there is no direct proof that the father of these two children was the brother of Earl Gilbert, but the proximity of their names in the charter subscriptions quoted below suggests that this might be the case)"
Med Lands cites:
[651] Inchaffray, III, p. 2.
[652] Inchaffray, IV, p. 3.
[653] Inchaffray, IX, p. 6.
[654] Inchaffray, XI, p. 11.
[655] Inchaffray, XXV, p. 23.
[656] Lindores, V, p. 10.
[657] Lindores, XXIX, p. 32.
[658] Inchaffray, XXVIII, p. 25.
[659] Inchaffray, XXX, p. 26.
[660] Lindores, II, p. 2.
[661] Lindores, XXIX, p. 32.
[662] Lindores, XXXVI, p. 38.1

Family

Ada (?)

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#MaliseMAdaScotland. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ferchard|Ferquhard|Fereth: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00056780&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ethen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00056781&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#AdaMMaliseStrathearn

Marjory (?)1

F, #94714, d. after 1241
FatherDavid (?) Earl of Huntingdon1 b. c 1144, d. 17 Jun 1219
Last Edited4 Jul 2020
     Marjory (?) married David de Lindsay, son of Sir William de Lindesay Baron of Luffness and Aleanora de Limesay.1,2
Marjory (?) died after 1241.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "DAVID de Lindsay, son of WILLIAM de Lindsay & his wife --- (-after 12 Nov 1246). "Willelmus de Lyndessay" donated "terre mee de Cruford" to Newbattle priory by undated charter, witnessed by "David comite frater regis, David herede meo, Waltero de Lyndd"[922]. His parentage is confirmed by the undated charter under which his son "Gerard de Lyndd filius DD de Lyndd" confirmed donations made to Newbattle priory by "Willelmus de Lyndd avus meus…Dauid de Lyndd fratris mei"[923]. "David de Lyndd fili David de Lyndd" confirmed the donation of "terre mee in territorio de Crauford" made by "patre meo" to Newbattle priory, for the health of King Alexander, by undated charter[924]. "David de Lyndd" confirmed the donation of "terre mee de Cruford" made by "pater meus Willelmus de Lyndd" to Newbattle priory by undated charter, witnessed by "Waltero de Lyndd, David Quincy, Alano de Somerwille…"[925]. "…Willelmo de Lindesey…Dauid de Lindeseie…" subscribed the undated charter under which "Comes David frater regis Scottorum" founded Lindores Abbey[926]. "…Dauid de Linesei, Waltero Olifer…" subscribed the undated charter under which "Comes David frater regis Scottorum" donated "ecclesiam de Lundors…ecclesiam de Dunde…ecclesiam de Durnach" to Lindores Abbey[927]. "Malisius filius comitis Fertheth frater comitis Gilberti de Strathern" donated "Rathangothen" to Lindores Abbey, for the soul of "uxoris mee filie comitis David", by undated charter, witnessed by "Waltero Olifard, David de Lindeseia…David Olifard…"[928]. "…Rogero Avenel, Alano de Mundegumeri, David de Lindeseie, Rogero filio Glay…" witnessed the undated charter under which "Walterus filius Alani dapifer regis Scottorum" confirmed the donation of property "in territorio de Inuerwic" made to Melrose abbey by "Rogerius filius Glay et Willemus de Haskerrestun et Ricardus de Haskerrestun frater eius et Johannes filius Alani de Mundegumeri et Vicencius filius Roberti Avenel et Nicholaus filius Rollandi"[929]. "Domino David de Lindsay tunc justiciario Landonie, domino Willielmo de Lyndsay…" witnessed the undated charter under which "Maldovenus comes de Levenax" granted land "in Levenax…Buthernockis et…Kyncaith" to "Wilielmo filio Arthuri filii Galbrait"[930]. "…David de Lindes…" witnessed the charter dated 5 Feb 1241 under which Alexander II King of Scotland confirmed the rights of Scone Abbey over "duas acre in territorio de Scona ubi molendinum…"[931]. "…David de Lindesay justiciario Laudonie…" witnessed the charter dated 12 Nov 1246 under which Alexander II King of Scotland confirmed a donation to Scone Abbey made by "Rogerus de Queinci comes Wintonie"[932].
     "m MARJORY, illegitimate daughter of [DAVID of Scotland Earl of Huntingdon & his mistress ---] (-[after 1241]). "DD de Lyndes filius DD de Lyndes" donated revenue to Dunfermline abbey with "matri mee" by undated charter witnessed by "domina Margeria de Lyndeseya…"[933]. This document suggests that Marjory lived during the later years of the life of her son David, who died in 1241. The proofs relating to the claim to the Scottish throne in 1291 made by her great grandson "domini Roberti de Pinkeny" name "Margareta" as daughter of "Henr patre Regis Willi" but do not name her husband[934]. If the hypothesis about Marjory’s date of death is correct, this alleged parentage is impossible from a chronological point of view. Balfour Paul suggests that she may have the daughter of one of the sons of David Earl of Huntingdon who are named Henry[935]. However, this suggestion appears to place her birth somewhat late, considering that her son David was already married when he died in 1241. She is shown here as the possible daughter of David Earl of Huntingdon, but that is only a suggestion."
Med Lands cites:
[922] Newbattle, 135, p. 102.
[923] Newbattle, 143, p. 108.
[924] Newbattle, 138, p. 104.
[925] Newbattle, 136, p. 103.
[926] Lindores, II, p. 2.
[927] Lindores, III, p. 7.
[928] Lindores, XXIX, p. 32.
[929] Melrose Liber, Tome I, 62, p. 51.
[930] Lennox Cartularium, p. 30.
[931] Scone, 74, p. 45.
[932] Scone, 81, p. 50.
[933] Dunfermline, 190, p. 107.
[934] Palgrave (1837), Vol. I, Illustrations, 6, p. x.
[935] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. III, Lindsay, Earl of Crawford, p. 6.2


; Per Med Lands:
     "[MARJORY (-[after 1241]). "DD de Lyndes filius DD de Lyndes" donated revenue to Dunfermline abbey with "matri mee" by undated charter witnessed by "domina Margeria de Lyndeseya…"[540]. This document suggests that Marjory lived during the later years of the life of her son David, who died in 1241. "Willelmus de Lyndesay miles filius quondam dni David de Lyndeshay" donated revenue to Newbattle priory, for the souls of "dni David de Lydesay patris mei et Margarete de Lyndesay matris mee", by charter dated 1293[541]. The proofs relating to the claim to the Scottish throne in 1291 made by her great grandson "domini Roberti de Pinkeny" name "Margareta" as daughter of "Henr patre Regis Willi" but do not name her husband[542]. If the hypothesis about Marjory’s date of death is correct, this alleged parentage is impossible from a chronological point of view. Balfour Paul suggests that she may have the daughter of one of the sons of David Earl of Huntingdon who are named Henry[543]. However, this suggestion appears to place her birth somewhat late, considering that her son David was married when he died in 1241. She is shown here as the possible daughter of David Earl of Huntingdon, but that is only a suggestion.
     "m DAVID de Lindsay, son of WILLIAM de Lindsay & his wife --- (-after 12 Nov 1246).]"
Med Lands cites:
[540] Dunfermline, 190, p. 107.
[541] Bannatyne Club (1849) Abbacie Cisterciensis beate virginis de Neubotle Chartarium Vetus (Edinburgh) ("Newbattle"), 172, p. 137.
[542] Palgrave (1837), Vol. I, Illustrations, 6, p. x.
[543] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. III, Lindsay, Earl of Crawford, p. 6.1

Family

David de Lindsay d. a 1246

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#MarjoryMJohnLindsay. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20UNTITLED.htm#DavidLindsaydied1246B

NN (?) of Chester1

F, #94715, b. between 1174 and 1175, d. between 1191 and 1195
FatherHugh "of Kevelioc" de Meschines (?) 5th Earl of Chester, Vicomte d'Avranche1,2 b. c 1143, d. 30 Jun 1181
MotherBertrade de Montfort1,2 b. 1155, d. 1227
Last Edited26 Nov 2020
     NN (?) of Chester was born between 1174 and 1175.1 She married Llewellyn "the Great" ab Iorwerth Prince of North Wales, son of Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain Gwynedd Prince of North Wales and Margred ferch Madog ap Maredudd ap Bleddyn ap Cynfyn of Powys Fadog, in 1190;
His 1st wife.1,3
NN (?) of Chester died between 1191 and 1195.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "LLYWELYN ap Iorwerth, son of IORWERTH "Drwyndwyn/flat nose" Prince of Gwynedd & his wife Marared of Powys ([1173]-11 Apr 1240[273], bur Aberconway). He succeeded in 1194 as LLYWELYN "Fawr/the Great" Prince of Gwynedd, Prince of All Wales. The Annales Cambriæ name "Lewelinus filius Gervasii filii Owini Guynet…princeps Walliæ"[274]. The Annales Londonienses record the death "Id Apr" in 1240 of "Lewelinus princeps Norwalliæ"[275]. The Chronicle of the Princes of Wales records that "Llywelyn son of Iorwerth prince of Wales died…and was buried at Aberconway" in 1240[276].
     "[m firstly (end [1190]) --- of Chester, daughter of HUGH de Kevilloc Earl of Chester & his wife Bertrade de Montfort ([1174/75]?-[1191/95]?). Pope Innocent III’s third letter dated 17 Feb 1205 (see below for further details), refers to “idem L” marrying “sororem...comitis Castriæ”, dated to end-[1190] from the context[277]. No other reference has been found to this marriage or her parentage. If it is correct, she presumably died soon after the marriage.]
     "m firstly/secondly (Betrothed [1190]?, betrothal terminated ([1191/92]), [1195/96], separated [annulled] [1203/05]) as her second husband, --- of Man, widow of RHODRI ap Owain, daughter of RAGNALD King of Man & [his wife ---] ([1182/83]-after 17 Feb 1205). Pope Innocent III, by letter dated 24 Nov 1199, requested an enquiry after “R. princeps Norwaliæ” requested permission to marry “filiam...prinicipis Insularum” notwithstanding that “patruo eius eadem infra nubiles annos exstitit desponsata”, in particular investigating whether she was still under 7 years old [youngest canonical age for marriage at the time] when “a nepote, vel patruo desponsata”[278]. Pope Innocent III, by letter dated 19 Apr 1203, reported the enquiry after “N. princeps Norwalliæ” requested permission to marry “filiam...principis Insularum”, referring to his previous letter, confirming that “L. principe Norwalliæ” had been betrothed to “puella, completis octo annis”, that she was later betrothed to “patruo...suo”, that the enquiry found against the marriage but allowed it to stand to bring peace to the dispute[279]. Pope Innocent III issued a third letter dated 17 Feb 1205, after further facts emerged, annulling the marriage and recording that “ejusdem L. patruus ipsam” was betrothed to the girl when in her ninth year, married her in her tenth, and cohabited with her, including “in Manniam rediens” before returning “in Walliam” by himself leaving his wife behind, for 2 years, 2 months and 15 days since their marriage[280]. Remfry notes that Dwnn’s Visitation incorrectly names “Rhunallt, the daughter of the king of Man” as wife of Gruffydd ap Llywelyn (see below) and suggests that this may represent confusion with the first/second wife of Llywelyn[281]. Remfry also suggests that Gruffydd was the son of his father’s first wife, declared illegitimate when his parents’ marriage was annulled, citing a contemporary poet who records Owain “Goch”, oldest son of Gruffydd ap Llywelyn, as “of the lineage of the kings of Man”[282].
     "m secondly/thirdly (after 16 Apr 1205) JOAN [of England], illegitimate daughter of JOHN King of England & his mistress Clementia Pinel (-30 Mar 1237). King John confirmed "castrum de Ellesmara" to "Lewelino principi Norwallie in maritagium cum Johanna filia nostra" by charter dated 16 Apr 1205[283]. Her husband sent her to make peace with the king her father in 1211 when the latter was attacking North Wales. She was legitimated in 1226: Pope Honorius III gave dispensation to “Joan wife of Leuwelin prince of North Wales, daughter of king John declaring her legitimate, but without prejudice to the king or realm of England”, dated 29 Apr 1226[284]. She and her son David did homage to King Henry III in 1229[285]. The Chronicle of the Princes of Wales records that "William Bruse was hanged by Llywelyn son of Iorewerth, having been caught in the chamber of the prince with the princess Jannet, daughter of King John and wife of the prince" in 1230[286]. The Annales Cambriæ record the death in 1237 of "domina Johanna filia regis Angliæ et uxor Lewilini principis Walliæ" and her burial "apud Haber"[287]. The Annals of Tewkesbury record the death “III Kal Apr” in 1236 of “domina Johanna Walliæ, uxor Lewelini, filia regis Johannis et reginæ Clemenciæ”[288]. The Chronicle of the Princes of Wales records that "Dame Joan daughter of king John and the wife of Llywelyn son of Iorwerth" died in Feb 1237 "at the court of Aber and was buried in a new cemetery on the side of the strand which Howel bishop of Llanelwy had consecrated"[289].
     "m thirdly/fourthly (1239) EVA, daughter of FULK FitzWarin [IV] & his [second] wife Constance de Tosny. The Annales Cestrienses record in 1239 that “Lewelinus princeps Wallie” married “filiam Fulconis filii Warini”[290]. The Legend of Fulk Fitz Warin records that "Lowis le prince de Walys" married "sire Fouke…Eve sa file" after the death of his first wife "dame Johane…que fust la file le roi Henre de Engleterre"[291].
     "Mistress (1): [TANGWYSTL, daughter of LLYWARCH “Goch [the Red]” of Rhos & his wife ---. Lloyd’s early 20th century History of Wales names “Tangwystl, daughter of Llywarch the Red of Rhos”, as mother of Llywelyn’s son Gruffydd[292]. Lloyd cites Dwnn’s Heraldic Visitation of Wales which names Llywelyn’s children “Grufydd a Gwladus” as the children of “Tanglwyst verch gôch o’r Rhos, ag i Lowardh Holdwrch”[293]. Remfry, however, suggests that Tangwystl “seems only to have been created in the 17th century”[294], although he also cites a survey of Denbighshire dated [1336] which records that Prince Llywelyn had earlier donated land (“Dyncadvel” in Llannefydd) to “cuidam amice sue nomine Tanguestel Goch” who sold it[295]: the word “amice” [variant of “amicæ”], dative singular of “amica”, could be a euphemism to describe Llywelyn’s mistress. Remfry, suggesting that Llywelyn’s first/second wife (the princess of Man) was Gruffydd’s mother, cites a contemporary poet who records Owain “Goch” (Gruffydd’s oldest son) as “of the lineage of the kings of Man”[296]. The suggestion seems chronologically possible, given the likely birthdate of Llywelyn’s first/second wife, if Gruffydd was born in the late 1190s. Given these apparently conflicting indications, certainty about the identity of Gruffydd’s mother is difficult.]
     "Mistresses (2): - (7): ---. The names of the other mistresses of Prince Llywelyn are not known."
Med Lands cites:
[273] Luard, H. R. (ed.) (1874) Matthæi Parisiensis, Monachi Sancti Albani, Chronica Majora (London) (“Matthew Paris”), Vol. IV, 1240, p. 8.
[274] Annales Cambriæ, p. 82.
[275] Annales Londonienses, p. 37.
[276] Brut y Tywysogion (Williams), p. 327.
[277] Patrologia Latina, Vol. 215, p. 239, cols. 0534-0537, no. CCXX (English translation at Remfry (2018), pp. 87-90).
[278] Patrologia Latina, Vol. 214, p. 400/986, cols. 0791D-0792D, no. CCXXXIII (English translation at Remfry (2018), pp. 82-3).
[279] Patrologia Latina, Vol. 215, p. 20, cols. 0049B-0050A, no. XLVII (English translation at Remfry (2018), pp. 84-5).
[280] Patrologia Latina, Vol. 215, p. 239, cols. 0534-0537, no. CCXX (English translation at Remfry (2018), pp. 87-90).
[281] Remfry (2018), p. 92, citing Thornton, D. E. ‘A neglected genealogy of Llywelyn ap Gruffydd’, Cambridge Medieval Celtic Studies, XXIII (1992), pp. 2-23, and “Cronica de Wallia, NLW Peniarth MS.129, 131” [not consulted].
[282] Remfry (2018), p. 92, citing Andrews, R. M. & others (eds.) (1996) Gwaith Bleddyn Fardd a Beird Eraill Ail Hanner y Drydedd Ganrif aad Ddeg (Cardiff), 48. 21 [not consulted].
[283] Duffus Hardy, T. (ed.) (1837) Rotuli Chartarum in Turri Londinensi, Vol. I, Part I 1199-1216 (London) ("Rotuli Chartarum"), 6 John, p. 147.
[284] Bliss, W. H. (1893) Calendar of entries in the Papal registers relating to Great Britain and Ireland (London), Vol. I, p. 109.
[285] Given-Wilson, C. and Curteis, A. (1988) The Royal Bastards of Medieval England (Routledge), pp. 128-9.
[286] Brut y Tywysogion (Williams), p. 319.
[287] Annales Cambriæ, p. 82.
[288] Annales de Theokesberia, p. 101.
[289] Brut y Tywysogion (Williams), p. 325.
[290] Christie, R. C. (ed.) (1887) Annales Cestrienses or Chronicle of the Abbey of St Werburg at Chester, Record Society [of] Lancashire and Cheshire Vol. XIV, (“Annales Cestrienses”), p. 60.
[291] Stevenson, J. (1875) Radulphi de Coggeshall Chronicon Anglicanum (London), The Legend of Fulk Fitz Warin, p. 410.
[292] Lloyd (1912), Vol. II, p. 686.
[293] Meyrick, S. R. (ed.) (1846) Heraldic Visitations of Wales...between...1586 and 1613...by Lewys Dwnn (Llandovery), Vol. II, LXI, p. 107.
[294] Remfry (2018), p. 82, foornote 277.
[295] Remfry (2018), p. 92, citing Vinogradoff, P. & Morgan, F. (eds.) (1914) Survey of the Honour of Denbigh, 1334 (London), p. 128 [not consulted].
[296] Remfry (2018), p. 92, citing Andrews & others (1996), 48. 21 [not consulted].3


; Per Med Lands:
     "[daughter ([1174/75]?-[1191/95]?). Pope Innocent III’s third letter dated 17 Feb 1205 (see the document WALES for further details), refers to “idem L” marrying “sororem...comitis Castriæ”, dated to end-[1190] from the context[155]. No other reference has been found to this marriage or her parentage. If it is correct, she presumably died soon after the marriage. If that is correct, it is unlikely that this daughter was the same person as one of Earl Hugh’s other daughters whose later marriages are recorded as shown below.
     "m (end [1190]) as his first wife, LLYWELYN ap Iorwerth Fawr ("the Great") Prince of North Wales, son of IORWERTH Drwyndwyn ("flat nose") Prince of Gwynedd & his wife Marared of Powys ([1173]-11 Apr 1240, bur Aberconway).] "
Med Lands cites:
[155] Patrologia Latina, Vol. 215, p. 239, cols. 0534-0537, no. CCXX (English translation at Remfry, P. M. (2018) The Aberconwy Register and Aberconwy abbey, pp. 87-90).1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#dauHughChesterMLlywelyn. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#HughChesterdied1181
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/WALES.htm#Llywellyndied1240B

NN (?) de Huntingdon1

M, #94716
FatherDavid I "The Saint" (?) King of Scots b. c 1080, d. 24 May 1153
MotherMaude (Matilda) de Huntingdon Queen of the Scots, Countess of Huntingdon & Northumberland b. c 1074, d. bt 23 Apr 1130 - 1131
ReferenceGAV26
Last Edited6 Jul 2020
     GAV-26.

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#DavidIdied1153B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Oilliol Fionn (?)1

M, #94717
ReferenceGAV30
Last Edited6 Jul 2020
     GAV-30.

Reference: Genealogics cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 86,114,144.1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Oilliol Fionn: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117049&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Mór (?)1

F, #94718
Last Edited5 Jul 2020
     Mór (?) married Brian Bóruma mac Cennétig of Dál Cais, King of Munster, High of Ireland, son of Cennétig mac Lorcain of Dál Cais, king of Thomond and Be Bind ingen Aurchada of Uí Briúin Seóla;
His 1st? wife
NB: Per Baldwin's Llywelyn ap Iorwerth ancestor table, "Brian had four known wives."1,2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mór: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00529960&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1527] GEN-MEDIEVAL/soc.genealogy.medieval: "Llywelyn ap Iorwerth ancestor table", online http://www.rootsweb.com/~medieval/llywelyn.htm. Hereinafter cited as Baldwin: Llywelyn ap Iorweth Ancestor Table.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#BrianBorudied1014. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Murrough O'Brien: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00529961&tree=LEO

Teige O'Brien King of Munster1

M, #94719, b. circa 985, d. 1023
FatherBrian Bóruma mac Cennétig of Dál Cais, King of Munster, High of Ireland1,2 b. 941, d. 23 Apr 1014
MotherEachraid (?)1
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited6 Jul 2020
     Teige O'Brien King of Munster married Mór O'Mulloy, daughter of Giolla Bridget (?) Prince of Fearceal.3 Teige O'Brien King of Munster was born circa 985.1
Teige O'Brien King of Munster died in 1023; Per Genealogics: "Teige was assassinated at the instigation of [his brother] Donnchad in 1023."1,2
     ; NB: In the 1980's, I inherited an anglicized Irish line from an old World Family Tree (WFT 14-1829) pedigree that I found in the early days of CDs (when I was far less demanding in my genealogical research). From WFT I had:
1 Dermot O'Brien (unk-1120), King of Muster, m. Sahl MacCarty
1.1 Turlock O'Brien (unk-1167), "of Munster", m. Raignait O'Fogurty
1.1.1 Donal Mor O'Brien (unk-1194), m. Urlachan MacMurrough
1.1.1.1 "More" O'Brien (1162-unk), m. William de Burgh (unk-1205)
I am now trying to better understand and clean up this line. In researching for the possible "truth" in this line, I have found several leads:


A. Med Lands, shows a descent under the Kings of Munster that could be this "Dermot", his son "Turlock" and grandson "Donal". The line descends from one TOIRDELBACH, son of DOMNALL of Munster & his wife --- ([1008/09]-Cenn Coradh 14 Jul 1086), as folows:
A.1. TOIRDELBACH, King of Munster, a grandson of Brian Boroma - O'Brien?
A.1.1 DIARMAIT (-Corcach Mór Muman 1118), King of Munster - Dermot?
A.1.1.1 TOIRDELBACH (-1167), King of Munster - Turlock?
A.1.1.1.1 DOMNALL (-1194), King of Munster [sic] - Donal?
Though the female name "Mor" is common in this line, Domnall is not shown as having any offspring, including a daughter named MOR ("More") who might have married William de Burgh. Med Lands provide sources, relying heavily on the Annals of Inisfallen, the Annals of Ulster, and the Annals of Tigernach.


B. Wikipedia provides more direct evidence for the veracity of the WFT line, relying on more modern sources:
B.1 Toirdelbach Ua Briain (1009 – 14 July 1086), King of Munster, grandson of Brian Bóruma, m1 Dubchoblaig (mother of Diarmait), m2 Derbforgaill, m3 Ruaidrí na Saide Buide.
B.1.1 Diarmait Ua Briain (1060–1118), King of Munster, m Mór Ua Conchobair
B.1.1.1 Toirdhealbhach mac Diarmada Ua Briain (unk-unk), King of Munster, m1 (a dau. of the Mac Carthaigh Mór, d.s.p.), m2 Sadb MacGillapatrick
B.1.1.1.1 Domnall Mór Ua Briain (unk-1194), King of Thomond and claimant to King of Munster, m Orlacan (dau. of Diarmait Mac Murchada) and had a daughter "Mór O'Brien (Princess of Thomond, 1172-1216, who married William de Burgh)"


C. The Wikipedia entry for William de Burgy states: "William's wife was the daughter of Domnall Mór Ó Briain, King of Thomond, whom he married in 1193.[5] A late medieval (A.D. 1397 - A.D. 1418) genealogy found in the Book of Lecan records his marriage to an unnamed daughter of Donmal Mor mac Turlough O'Brien,[6]. This Wikipedia article cites:
[5] Weis, Frederick Lewis. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700. Eighth Ed. (2008), Line 177B-8.
[6] Empey, C. A (2004). "Burgh, William de (died 1206)". Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. Oxford University Press. Retrieved 2006-11-04.



D. Weis [2008:168], calls Richard de Burgh "son of William de Burgh ... by his wife, a daughter of Donnell O'Brien, K.T."


E. The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (ONDB) article on William de Burgh does indeed report: "According to one Irish source de Burgh was married to a daughter of Domnall Mór Ó Briain, which is consistent with the fact that he was frequently accompanied by his Ó Briain allies, hereditary enemies of the Mac Carthaig and the Ó Conchobhair, in his numerous campaigns in Desmond and Connacht." However, then ONDB adds this caveat: "Although he was married in or before 1193, there is no certainty about the identity of his wife. She may have been an unnamed daughter of Domnall Mór Ó Briain, but the authority for this statement rests solely on the evidence of a late medieval Gaelic genealogy."


F. Genealogics shows the following descent:
F.1 Torlogh O'Brien, King of Munster and Ireland (1009-1086) m Dubchoblaig of the Ui Cheinnselaig
F1.1 Dermod O'Brien, King of Munster (unk-1120) m Saiv|Sadhbh (MacCarthy)
F1.1.1 Torlogh|Toirdhealbhach O'Brien, King of Thomond (unk-1167)
F1.1.1.1 Donald More O'Brien, King of Thomond (unk-1194) - No daughter is shown for Donald
For this descent, Genealogics cites:
1. History of the O'Briens, London, 1949 , O'Brien, Hon. Donough. 7.
2. The Royal Line of Succession, Pitkin Pictorials , Montague Smith, Patrick W. 24.
3. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 144.
     Genealogics, however, reports on his page that William de Burgh m. "Isabel 'filia regis'" and then remarks, "It is suggested that she is the daughter of Richard 'the Lionheart'."
Genealogics cites: The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald. vol 1 183.


G. The History of the O'Briens, by Donough O'Brien (1949) has this simplified descent from "Brian Boroimhe" to "Donald More" (d. 1194):
G.0 Brian Boroimhe (unk-1014)
G.0.1 Teige (unk-1023)
G.0.1.1 Donough (unk-1054)
G.1. Torlogh (unk-1086)
G.1.1 Dermod (unk-1120)
G.1.1.1 Torlogh (unk-1167)
G.1.1.1.1 Donald More 1194)
See the attached image of the descendancy from the frontispiece of O'Brien [1949].


Conclusion: Based on these sources, I believe that the WFT pedigree I orignally had, matches the lineage as laid out by Genealogics, Wikipedia and O'Brien [1949]. I have left the marriage of "More" to William de Burgh, given the argument in ONDB. GA Vaut.4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16

; Per Med Lands:
     "TADHG (-killed 1023). The Annals of Tigernach record that “Tadg son of Brian Boroma” was killed by “the Eili instigated by his brother…Dondchad” in [1021/23][1006]. The Annals of Ulster record the death in 1023 of "Tadc son of Brian killed by the Éile”[1007]."
Med Lands cites:
[1006] Annals of Tigernach II, p. 255.
[1007] Annals of Ulster, 1023.5, p. 462.2
GAV-27.

; This is the same person as ”Tadc mac Briain” at Wikipedia.17

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. History of the O'Briens, London, 1949, O'Brien, Hon. Donough. 7.
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975, Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 144.1,15
Teige O'Brien King of Munster was also known as Tadc mac Briain.17

; Per Genealogics:
     “Teige was the son of Brian Bóruma mac Cennétig, king of Ireland, and Eachraid, daughter of Cearbholl (Carlus mac Ailella of Ui Aeda Odba). Teige had one son, Torlogh O'Brien, with his wife Mór O'Mulloy, daughter of Giolla Bridget, prince of Fearcal.
     “After Brian Bóruma's death at the battle of Clontarf in 1014, Teige was a serious contender to the kingship of Munster, rivalling his half-brother Donnchad. Teige was assassinated at the instigation of Donnchad in 1023.”.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Teige O'Brien: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117050&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#BrianBorudied1014. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mór O'Mulloy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117051&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#Tordelbachdied1086
  5. [S599] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 28 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 14, Ed. 1, family # 1829 (n.p.: Release date: October 20, 1997, unknown publish date).
  6. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, Toirdelbach Ua Briain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toirdelbach_Ua_Briain. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  7. [S1953] Wikipedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, Diarmait Ua Briain - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diarmait_Ua_Briain
  8. [S1953] Wikipedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, Toirdhealbhach mac Diarmada Ua Briain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toirdhealbhach_mac_Diarmada_Ua_Briain
  9. [S1953] Wikipedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, Domnall Mór Ua Briain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toirdhealbhach_mac_Diarmada_Ua_Briain
  10. [S1953] Wikipedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, William de Burgh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Burgh
  11. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), p. 168, Line 177B-8. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
  12. [S2286] Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, online http://oxforddnb.com/index/, https://doi.org/10.1093/ref:odnb/4000. Hereinafter cited as ODNB - Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00117058&tree=LEO
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Burgh: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00110850&tree=LEO
  15. [S4776] Donough O'Brien, The History of the O'Briens from Brian Boroimhe . AD 1000 to AD 1945 (London and New York: Batsford, 1949). Hereinafter cited as O'Brien (1949) The History of the O'Briens.
  16. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 5 July 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  17. [S1953] Wikipedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadc_mac_Briain
  18. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Torlogh O'Brien: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117053&tree=LEO

Mór O'Mulloy1

F, #94720
FatherGiolla Bridget (?) Prince of Fearceal2
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited6 Jul 2020
     Mór O'Mulloy married Teige O'Brien King of Munster, son of Brian Bóruma mac Cennétig of Dál Cais, King of Munster, High of Ireland and Eachraid (?).1
     GAV-27.

Reference: Genealogics cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 144.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mór O'Mulloy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117051&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Giolla Bridget: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117052&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Torlogh O'Brien: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117053&tree=LEO

Giolla Bridget (?) Prince of Fearceal1

M, #94721
ReferenceGAV28
Last Edited6 Jul 2020
     GAV-28.

Reference: Genealogics cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 144.1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Giolla Bridget: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117052&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Toirdelbach Ua Briain (?) King of Munster and High King of Ireland1

M, #94722, b. 1009, d. 1086
FatherTeige O'Brien King of Munster2 b. c 985, d. 1023
MotherMór O'Mulloy2
ReferenceGAV-26
Last Edited6 Jul 2020
     Toirdelbach Ua Briain (?) King of Munster and High King of Ireland married Dubchoblaig (?) of the Ui Cheinnselaig;
His 1st? wife.3 Toirdelbach Ua Briain (?) King of Munster and High King of Ireland married Dearbforgail (?) of Ossory, daughter of Tadhg (?);
His 2nd? wife.4 Toirdelbach Ua Briain (?) King of Munster and High King of Ireland married Gormlaith (?) of Ua Fógarta;
His 3rd? wife.5 Toirdelbach Ua Briain (?) King of Munster and High King of Ireland married Unknown (?);
His 4th? wife.6 Toirdelbach Ua Briain (?) King of Munster and High King of Ireland was born in 1009.2
Toirdelbach Ua Briain (?) King of Munster and High King of Ireland died in 1086.2
Toirdelbach Ua Briain (?) King of Munster and High King of Ireland was buried in 1086 at St. Lua's Churchyard, Killaloe, co. Clare, Ireland (now),

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1009
     DEATH     1086 (aged 76–77), County Clare, Ireland
     Turlogh Mór, became King of Munster on the abdication of his uncle Donogh. He married Mór, the daughter of O'Hyne, of Kilmacduagh, in Co. Galway, by whom he had four sons and a daughter. The sons were—1. Teige, who died at Kincora, leaving two sons, Murrogh and Daniel. 2. Murtogh, who succeeded his father and after a reign of 30 years he retired (1116) to the monastery of Lismore to repent of his sins—especially of his violation of the sacred soil of Aileach; he died at Lismore in 1119, leaving: Donal, the Shorthand (whose sons Connor and Lewy fell in battle in 1151); Mahon, ancestor of MacMahon of Corca Bascin, and Cineidi Ochar. 3. Dermod, of whom presently. 4. Donogh, slain in 1103 at the battle of Magh Coba. And the daughter was Mór, who married Rory O'Connor the 183rd Monarch of Ireland.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Teige macBriain O'Brien unknown–1022
     Children
          Murtogh O'Brien unknown–1119
          Dermot O'Brien unknown–1120
     BURIAL     St. Lua's Churchyard, Killaloe, County Clare, Ireland
     Created by: Dermot P. Curtin
     Added: 30 Nov 2016
     Find a Grave Memorial 173336106.7
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. History of the O'Briens, London, 1949 , O'Brien, Hon. Donough. 7.
2. The Royal Line of Succession, Pitkin Pictorials , Montague Smith, Patrick W. 24.
3. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 144.2


; This is the same person as ”Toirdelbach Ua Briain” at Wikipedia.1

; NB: Med Lands shows Toirdelbach/Torlogh as the grandson of Brian by Brian's son Domnall. Genealogics shows him as Brian's grandson by Teige/Tadc. Wikipedia agrees with Genealogics. I have chosen to assign Toirdelbach/Torlogh as the son of Teige/Tadc. GA Vaut.8,9,1,10,11

; Per Genealogics:
     “Torlogh was born in 1009, the son of Teige O'Brien, king of Munster, and Mór O'Mulloy. His father was killed in 1023 probably on the orders of his half-brother Donnchad who thereby made himself king of Munster. Donnchad, while he successfully retained control of Munster for four decades, was never able to achieve the same success as his father Brian Bóruma.
     “For the first forty years of his life nothing is known of Torlogh. It was not until the 1050s that he found allies in Connaught and in Leinster, particularly the powerful Diarmit MacMael, king of Hy Kinsale, who would aid his claims to be ruler of Munster. It took perhaps ten years of sustained attack to remove his uncle Donnchad from power, and sent him into exile, and to place Torlogh in power in Munster as Diarmit's faithful ally.
     “On Diarmit's death Torlogh took over the reigns of power, establishing himself as ruler of more than half of Ireland. While not a great military leader, he was a capable politician whose influence extended as far north as Ulaid and who made and unmade kings of Connaught. He died in 1086 after more than two decades in power, following a lengthy illness, still in control of events. His son Murtach O'Brien would be the leading king of his day, and his grandson Torlogh Ua Conchobair would be greater yet.
     “Torlogh was probably married three times. Dunchoblaig of the Ui Cheinnselaig was the mother of Dermod, perhaps named for her kinsman and Torlogh's protector Diarmit MacMael, king of Hy Kinsale. Dearbforgail, of Ossory, daughter of Tadhg, was the mother of Teige and Murtach. No children of Gormlaith of Ua Fógarta are named and the mother of Torlogh's daughter Mór is not recorded.
     “Mór married Ruaidri na Saide Buide. Her son Torlogh Ua Conchobair was one of the greatest kings of medieval Ireland. She died in 1088, perhaps coincidentally the year in which a gloss to the Annals of Ulster records Torlogh's birth. The older Torlogh apparently planned to divide his lands between his three sons. Teige survived him by only weeks, dying of natural causes at Kincora, after which Murtach and Dermod disputed the succession. Dermod was the loser, banished by his half-brother, and exiled with his mother's kin in Leinster.”.2 Toirdelbach Ua Briain (?) King of Munster and High King of Ireland was also known as Torlogh O'Brien King of Munster and Ireland.2 GAV-26.

; This is the same person as ”Toirdelbach Ua Briain” at Wikipedia.1

; Per Med Lands:
     "TOIRDELBACH, son of DOMNALL of Munster & his wife --- ([1008/09]-Cenn Coradh 14 Jul 1086). The Annals of Inisfallen record that "the son of Domnall son of Brian” killed “Ua Donnocáin king of Ara” in 1031[1041]. The Annals of Ulster record that "Ua Briain…Toirdelbach” killed “Ua Donnocáin king of Ara Tire” in 1031[1042]. The Annals of Inisfallen record that "Tairdelbach Ua Briain beleaguered upper Dál Cais” in “great warfare between the men of Mumu and the Connachta” in 1053[1043]. The Annals of Ulster record that "Toirdelbach ua Briain” defeated “Murchad ua Briain” in 1055[1044]. The Annals of Inisfallen record that "Tairdelbach Ua Briain brought the son of Mael na mBó and the Laigin, Osraige and the foreigners” to attack “Brian´s son” in 1058[1045]. The Annals of Inisfallen record that "Tairdelbach Ua Briain and the son of Mael na mBó burned in Machaire” in 1062[1046]. King of Munster 1064. The Annals of Inisfallen record that "Domnall Ua Gilla Pátraic submitted to Tiadelbach Ua Briain and received a very large stipend of valuables and riches from the king of Mumu” in 1070[1047]. High King of Ireland 1072. The Annals of Inisfallen record that "the son of Conchobair Ua Mail Sechnaill (king of Temuir), Gofraid grandson of Ragnall king of Áth Cliath, and Domnall son of Gilla Pátraic king of Osraige…submitted to Tairdelbach Ua Briain king of Mum” in 1072 and “gave acknowledgement and high-kingship to him”[1048]. The Annals of Inisfallen record that "the king of Ulaid submitted to Tairdelbach Ua Briain [and] received a stipend from him” in 1081[1049]. The Annals of Tigernach record the death in 1086 of “Tordelbach Húa Bríáin king of the greater part of Ireland…in the 77th year of his age but in the 22nd of his reign” and of “his son Tadhg…in one month”[1050]. The Annals of Ulster record the death in 1086 of "Tairdelbach ua Briain king of Ireland…in Cenn Coradh…14 Jul in the 77th year of his age”[1051].
     "m [firstly] DERBORGAILL, daughter of TAIDHG maic Gilla Padraic & his wife ---. The Annals of Tigernach (Continuation) record that “Derborgaill daughter of Tadg, son of Gilla Pátraic, mother of Muirchertach Húa Bríáin king of Ireland…rested in Glendalough” in 1098[1052]. If these two wives are correctly attributed to Toirdelbach son of Tadhg, one of other must have been separated from her husband, or the marriages must have been polygamous.
     "m [secondly] GORMLAITH, daughter of --- Húa Fócarta & his wife --- (-Cell Dá Lua 1076, bur Inis Celtra). The Annals of Ulster record the death in 1076 of "Gormlaith daughter of Ua Fócarta wife of Tairdelbach ua Briain”[1053]. The Annals of Inisfallen record the death in 1076 of "Gormlaith daughter of Ua Fócarta queen of Mumu, wife of Tairdelbach Ua Briain rested in Cell Dá Lua” and her burial “in Inis Celtra”[1054]. If these two wives are correctly attributed to Toirdelbach son of Tadhg, one of other must have been separated from her husband, or the marriages must have been polygamous."
Med Lands cites:
[1041] Annals of Inisfallen, 1031.10, p. 199.
[1042] Annals of Ulster, 1031.9, p. 469.
[1043] Annals of Inisfallen, 1053-2, p. 215.
[1044] Annals of Ulster, 1054.5, p. 491. .
[1045] Annals of Inisfallen, 1058.4, p. 217.
[1046] Annals of Inisfallen, 1062.6, p. 221.
[1047] Annals of Inisfallen, 1070.9, p. 227.
[1048] Annals of Inisfallen, 1072.6, p. 227.
[1049] Annals of Inisfallen, 1081.5, p. 237.
[1050] Annals of Tigernach II, p. 310.
[1051] Annals of Ulster, 1086.4, p. 521.
[1052] Annals of Tigernach II, Continuation, p. 323.
[1053] Annals of Ulster, 1076.7, p. 513.
[1054] Annals of Inisfallen, 1076.7, p. 233.8
He was King of Munster
From Wikipedia:
Name:     Toirdhealbhach Ua Briain
Reign:     1068-1086
Born:     1009 - Son of Tadc mac Briain and Mór
Marriages:     (1) Dubchoblaig - One son; (2) Derbforgaill - Two sons
Death:     1086
.
See attached map of Ireland ca 1014 (from Wikipedia: Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=12835052) between 1064 and 1086.2,1,10 He was High King of Ireland
Per Wikipedia:
Name:     Toirdelbach Ua Briain
Reign:     died 1086 (with opposition)
Dynasty/Sept:     Dál gCais – Ua Briain
See attached map of Ireland ca 1014 (from Wikipedia: Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=12835052) between 1072 and 1086.1,2,12

Family 1

Unknown (?)
Child

Family 2

Gormlaith (?) of Ua Fógarta

Citations

  1. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toirdelbach_Ua_Briain. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Torlogh O'Brien: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117053&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dubchoblaig of the Ui Cheinnselaig: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00647146&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dearbforgail, of Ossory: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117054&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gormlaith of Ua Fógarta: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00647147&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00647148&tree=LEO
  7. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 05 July 2020), memorial page for Turlogh Mor O'Brien (1009–1086), Find a Grave Memorial no. 173336106, citing St. Lua's Churchyard, Killaloe, County Clare, Ireland; Maintained by Dermot P. Curtin (contributor 48964466), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/173336106. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  8. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#Tordelbachdied1086. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117053&tree=LEO
  10. [S1953] Wikipedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, List of Kings of Munster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_kings_of_Munster
  11. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 5 July 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  12. [S1953] Wikipedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, List of High Kings of Ireland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_High_Kings_of_Ireland
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mór O'Brien: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00647150&tree=LEO
  14. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#Mordied1088
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Murtach O'Brien: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00314875&tree=LEO
  16. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dermod O'Brien: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117056&tree=LEO

Dubchoblaig (?) of the Ui Cheinnselaig1

F, #94723
Last Edited27 Oct 2020
     Dubchoblaig (?) of the Ui Cheinnselaig married Toirdelbach Ua Briain (?) King of Munster and High King of Ireland, son of Teige O'Brien King of Munster and Mór O'Mulloy;
His 1st? wife.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dubchoblaig of the Ui Cheinnselaig: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00647146&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dermod O'Brien: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117056&tree=LEO

Dearbforgail (?) of Ossory1

F, #94724
FatherTadhg (?)2
ReferenceGAV26
Last Edited6 Jul 2020
     Dearbforgail (?) of Ossory married Toirdelbach Ua Briain (?) King of Munster and High King of Ireland, son of Teige O'Brien King of Munster and Mór O'Mulloy;
His 2nd? wife.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "TOIRDELBACH, son of DOMNALL of Munster & his wife --- ([1008/09]-Cenn Coradh 14 Jul 1086). The Annals of Inisfallen record that "the son of Domnall son of Brian” killed “Ua Donnocáin king of Ara” in 1031[1041]. The Annals of Ulster record that "Ua Briain…Toirdelbach” killed “Ua Donnocáin king of Ara Tire” in 1031[1042]. The Annals of Inisfallen record that "Tairdelbach Ua Briain beleaguered upper Dál Cais” in “great warfare between the men of Mumu and the Connachta” in 1053[1043]. The Annals of Ulster record that "Toirdelbach ua Briain” defeated “Murchad ua Briain” in 1055[1044]. The Annals of Inisfallen record that "Tairdelbach Ua Briain brought the son of Mael na mBó and the Laigin, Osraige and the foreigners” to attack “Brian´s son” in 1058[1045]. The Annals of Inisfallen record that "Tairdelbach Ua Briain and the son of Mael na mBó burned in Machaire” in 1062[1046]. King of Munster 1064. The Annals of Inisfallen record that "Domnall Ua Gilla Pátraic submitted to Tiadelbach Ua Briain and received a very large stipend of valuables and riches from the king of Mumu” in 1070[1047]. High King of Ireland 1072. The Annals of Inisfallen record that "the son of Conchobair Ua Mail Sechnaill (king of Temuir), Gofraid grandson of Ragnall king of Áth Cliath, and Domnall son of Gilla Pátraic king of Osraige…submitted to Tairdelbach Ua Briain king of Mum” in 1072 and “gave acknowledgement and high-kingship to him”[1048]. The Annals of Inisfallen record that "the king of Ulaid submitted to Tairdelbach Ua Briain [and] received a stipend from him” in 1081[1049]. The Annals of Tigernach record the death in 1086 of “Tordelbach Húa Bríáin king of the greater part of Ireland…in the 77th year of his age but in the 22nd of his reign” and of “his son Tadhg…in one month”[1050]. The Annals of Ulster record the death in 1086 of "Tairdelbach ua Briain king of Ireland…in Cenn Coradh…14 Jul in the 77th year of his age”[1051].
     "m [firstly] DERBORGAILL, daughter of TAIDHG maic Gilla Padraic & his wife ---. The Annals of Tigernach (Continuation) record that “Derborgaill daughter of Tadg, son of Gilla Pátraic, mother of Muirchertach Húa Bríáin king of Ireland…rested in Glendalough” in 1098[1052]. If these two wives are correctly attributed to Toirdelbach son of Tadhg, one of other must have been separated from her husband, or the marriages must have been polygamous.
     "m [secondly] GORMLAITH, daughter of --- Húa Fócarta & his wife --- (-Cell Dá Lua 1076, bur Inis Celtra). The Annals of Ulster record the death in 1076 of "Gormlaith daughter of Ua Fócarta wife of Tairdelbach ua Briain”[1053]. The Annals of Inisfallen record the death in 1076 of "Gormlaith daughter of Ua Fócarta queen of Mumu, wife of Tairdelbach Ua Briain rested in Cell Dá Lua” and her burial “in Inis Celtra”[1054]. If these two wives are correctly attributed to Toirdelbach son of Tadhg, one of other must have been separated from her husband, or the marriages must have been polygamous."
Med Lands cites:
[1041] Annals of Inisfallen, 1031.10, p. 199.
[1042] Annals of Ulster, 1031.9, p. 469.
[1043] Annals of Inisfallen, 1053-2, p. 215.
[1044] Annals of Ulster, 1054.5, p. 491. .
[1045] Annals of Inisfallen, 1058.4, p. 217.
[1046] Annals of Inisfallen, 1062.6, p. 221.
[1047] Annals of Inisfallen, 1070.9, p. 227.
[1048] Annals of Inisfallen, 1072.6, p. 227.
[1049] Annals of Inisfallen, 1081.5, p. 237.
[1050] Annals of Tigernach II, p. 310.
[1051] Annals of Ulster, 1086.4, p. 521.
[1052] Annals of Tigernach II, Continuation, p. 323.
[1053] Annals of Ulster, 1076.7, p. 513.
[1054] Annals of Inisfallen, 1076.7, p. 233.3
GAV-26.

Reference: Genealogics cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 144.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dearbforgail, of Ossory: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117054&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Tadhg: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117055&tree=LEO
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#Tordelbachdied1086. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Murtach O'Brien: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00314875&tree=LEO

Tadhg (?)1

M, #94725
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited6 Jul 2020
     GAV-27.

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Tadhg: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117055&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Unknown (?)1

F, #94727
Last Edited5 Jul 2020

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00647148&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mór O'Brien: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00647150&tree=LEO

Teige MacCarthy1

M, #94728, d. 1123
FatherCarthach MacCarthy2 d. 1045
ReferenceEDV28
Last Edited10 Nov 2020
     Teige MacCarthy died in 1123.1
     EDV-28.

Reference: Genealogics cites: The chieftans of Pobul-I-Callaghan, Cork (Journal of Cork Historical and Archaoelogical Society) 1897, v3 #30, Gillman, Herbert Webb. 206.1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Teige (MacCarthy): https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00721999&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Carthach (MacCarthy): https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00721998&tree=LEO

Dubheboblaigh (?) of Ossory1

F, #94729
ReferenceGAV25
Last Edited6 Jul 2020
     Dubheboblaigh (?) of Ossory married Muirchertach mac Toirdelbach (?) King of Munster, son of Toirdelbach Ua Briain (?) King of Munster and High King of Ireland and Dearbforgail (?) of Ossory.1
     GAV-25.

Reference: Genealogics cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 144.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dubheboblaigh of Ossory: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00314876&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lafracoth of Munster: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00474900&tree=LEO
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#LafracothMArnoulMontgommery. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Mór O'Brien1

F, #94730, d. 1088
FatherToirdelbach Ua Briain (?) King of Munster and High King of Ireland1,2,3 b. 1009, d. 1086
MotherUnknown (?)1
Last Edited5 Jul 2020
     Mór O'Brien married Ruaidri 'na Saide Buide' Húa Conchobair (?) King of Connaught.4,3,5
Mór O'Brien died in 1088.1,3
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "MOR (-1088). The Annals of Tigernach (Continuation) record the death in 1088 of “Mor daughter of Tordelbach Húa Bríáin, wife of Rúaidri Húa Conchobair”[1082].
     "m RUAIDRI “na saidhe buidhi/of the Yellow Bitch” Húa Conchobair, son of AEDH “in ga bernaig/of the Gapped Spear” Húa Conchobar & his wife --- (-1118)."
Med Lands cites:
[1082] Annals of Tigernach II, Continuation, p. 314.3


; Per Med Lands:
     "RUAIDRI “na saidhe buidhi/of the Yellow Bitch” Húa Conchobair, son of AEDH “in ga bernaig/of the Gapped Spear” Húa Conchobar & his wife --- (-Cluain Moccu Nóis 1118). King of Connaught. The Annals of Tigernach record that “Donnchad son of Brian” submitted to “Ruaidri Húa Conchobair king of Connaught” in 1059[339]. The Annals of Inisfallen record that "Ruaidri Ua Conchobuir king of Connachta was imprisoned by Tairdelbach and released” in 1076 and “he received from Ua Briain a stipend befitting him”[340]. The Annals of Tigernach record “the battle of Conachail (Cunghill) in Corann” in 1087 between “Ruaidri of the Yellow Bitch, son of Aed of the Gapped Spear, grandson of Conchobar, and Aed the son of Art the Proud, grandson of Ruarc, king of Connaught”, in which “Aed Húa Ruairc” was among those who were killed[341]. The Annals of Tigernach (Continuation) record that “Ruaidri of the Yellow Bitch, son of Aed of the Gapped Spear…king of Connaught” was blinded in 1092 by “Húa Flaithbertaig and by Fogartach Húa Fogartaig” in 1092[342]. The Annals of Inisfallen record that "Muirchertach Ua Briain took the high kingship of Connachta” in 1092[343]. The Annals of Ulster record the death in 1118 of "Ruaidri ua Conchobuir king of Connacht for a long time on pilgrimage in the 26th year after being blinded”[344]. The Annals of Inisfallen record the death in 1118 of "Ruaidri Ua Conchobuir…in Cluain Moccu Nóis”[345].
     "m MOR, daughter of TOIRDELBACH Húa Brian & his wife Derborgaill --- (-1088). The Annals of Tigernach (Continuation) record the death in 1088 of “Mor daughter of Tordelbach Húa Bríáin, wife of Rúaidri Húa Conchobair”[346]. "
Med Lands cites:
[339] Annals of Tigernach II, p. 292.
[340] Annals of Inisfallen, 1076.2, p. 233.
[341] Annals of Tigernach II, p. 311.
[342] Annals of Tigernach II, Continuation, p. 318.
[343] Annals of Inisfallen, 1092.3, p. 243.
[344] Annals of Ulster, 1118.9, p. 563.
[345] Annals of Inisfallen, 1118.12, p. 277.
[346] Annals of Tigernach II, Continuation, p. 314.5

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mór O'Brien: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00647150&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#Tordelbachdied1086. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#Mordied1088
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ruaidri na Saide Buide: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00647149&tree=LEO
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#RuaidriConchobair
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Torlogh Ua Conchobair: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00647151&tree=LEO

Ruaidri 'na Saide Buide' Húa Conchobair (?) King of Connaught1,2

M, #94731, d. 1118
Last Edited5 Jul 2020
     Ruaidri 'na Saide Buide' Húa Conchobair (?) King of Connaught married Mór O'Brien, daughter of Toirdelbach Ua Briain (?) King of Munster and High King of Ireland and Unknown (?).1,3,2
Ruaidri 'na Saide Buide' Húa Conchobair (?) King of Connaught died in 1118 at Cluain Moccu Nóis (Clonmacnoise), co. Offaly, Ireland.2
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "MOR (-1088). The Annals of Tigernach (Continuation) record the death in 1088 of “Mor daughter of Tordelbach Húa Bríáin, wife of Rúaidri Húa Conchobair”[1082].
     "m RUAIDRI “na saidhe buidhi/of the Yellow Bitch” Húa Conchobair, son of AEDH “in ga bernaig/of the Gapped Spear” Húa Conchobar & his wife --- (-1118)."
Med Lands cites:
[1082] Annals of Tigernach II, Continuation, p. 314.3


; Per Med Lands:
     "RUAIDRI “na saidhe buidhi/of the Yellow Bitch” Húa Conchobair, son of AEDH “in ga bernaig/of the Gapped Spear” Húa Conchobar & his wife --- (-Cluain Moccu Nóis 1118). King of Connaught. The Annals of Tigernach record that “Donnchad son of Brian” submitted to “Ruaidri Húa Conchobair king of Connaught” in 1059[339]. The Annals of Inisfallen record that "Ruaidri Ua Conchobuir king of Connachta was imprisoned by Tairdelbach and released” in 1076 and “he received from Ua Briain a stipend befitting him”[340]. The Annals of Tigernach record “the battle of Conachail (Cunghill) in Corann” in 1087 between “Ruaidri of the Yellow Bitch, son of Aed of the Gapped Spear, grandson of Conchobar, and Aed the son of Art the Proud, grandson of Ruarc, king of Connaught”, in which “Aed Húa Ruairc” was among those who were killed[341]. The Annals of Tigernach (Continuation) record that “Ruaidri of the Yellow Bitch, son of Aed of the Gapped Spear…king of Connaught” was blinded in 1092 by “Húa Flaithbertaig and by Fogartach Húa Fogartaig” in 1092[342]. The Annals of Inisfallen record that "Muirchertach Ua Briain took the high kingship of Connachta” in 1092[343]. The Annals of Ulster record the death in 1118 of "Ruaidri ua Conchobuir king of Connacht for a long time on pilgrimage in the 26th year after being blinded”[344]. The Annals of Inisfallen record the death in 1118 of "Ruaidri Ua Conchobuir…in Cluain Moccu Nóis”[345].
     "m MOR, daughter of TOIRDELBACH Húa Brian & his wife Derborgaill --- (-1088). The Annals of Tigernach (Continuation) record the death in 1088 of “Mor daughter of Tordelbach Húa Bríáin, wife of Rúaidri Húa Conchobair”[346]. "
Med Lands cites:
[339] Annals of Tigernach II, p. 292.
[340] Annals of Inisfallen, 1076.2, p. 233.
[341] Annals of Tigernach II, p. 311.
[342] Annals of Tigernach II, Continuation, p. 318.
[343] Annals of Inisfallen, 1092.3, p. 243.
[344] Annals of Ulster, 1118.9, p. 563.
[345] Annals of Inisfallen, 1118.12, p. 277.
[346] Annals of Tigernach II, Continuation, p. 314.2

Family

Mór O'Brien d. 1088
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ruaidri na Saide Buide: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00647149&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#RuaidriConchobair. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#Mordied1088
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Torlogh Ua Conchobair: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00647151&tree=LEO

Torlogh Ua Conchobair (?) King of Connaught1,2

M, #94732, b. 1088, d. 1156
FatherRuaidri 'na Saide Buide' Húa Conchobair (?) King of Connaught1,2 d. 1118
MotherMór O'Brien1,2 d. 1088
Last Edited5 Jul 2020
     Torlogh Ua Conchobair (?) King of Connaught was born in 1088.3
Torlogh Ua Conchobair (?) King of Connaught was buried in 1156 at St. Claran.3


Torlogh Ua Conchobair (?) King of Connaught died in 1156.3
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "TOIRDELBACH (1088-1156, bur St Ciaran). The Annals of Ulster record the birth in 1088 of "Tairdelbach ua Conchobuir king of Ireland”[354]. King of Connaught. The Annals of Tigernach (Continuation) record that “Domnall son of Ruaidri Húa Conchobair” was deposed “by the Connaughtmen” in 1106 and “his brother Toirdelbach the Great was made king”[355]. The Annals of Tigernach (Continuation) record that “Toirdelbach Húa Conchobair” assumed “the kingship of the Foreigners” in 1118 after expelling “Domnall of the Short Hands Húi Briaín”[356]. High King of Ireland. The Annals of Tigernach (Continuation) record “a great hosting by Toirdelbach son of Ruaidri king of Ireland, as far as Aghaboe in Ossory” in 1125 “so that they gave him his full award in respect of the revolt which they had made against him”[357]. The Annals of Tigernach (Continuation) record that “Enna son of Donnchad son of Murchad king of Leinster” died in 1126, after which “Toirdelbach Húa Conchobair king of Ireland” was made king of Leinster, unsuccessfully challenged by “Cormac Mac Carthaig king of Desmond”[358]. The Annals of Tigernach (Continuation) record that “Toirdelbach Húa Conchobair king of all Ireland and the Augustus of the west of Europe” died in 1156 “in the 68th year of his age in the 50th year of his reign” and was buried “beside S. Ciaran´s altar”[359].
     "m [firstly] ORLAITH, daughter of MURCHAD Húa Mael-Sechlainn King of Meath & his wife --- (-1115). The Annals of Tigernach (Continuation) record the death in 1115 of “Orlaith daughter of Murchad Húa Mael-Sechlainn, wife of Toirdelbach Húa Conchobair”[360].
     "m [secondly] [as her second husband,] ---, widow of ---, daughter of ---. An indication of her first marriage is provided by the Annals of Tigernach (Continuation) which record that “Ruaidri Húa Conchobar” banished “Domnall Húa Bríáin” from Thomond into Ormond in 1175 and “gave the kingship of Thomond to the son of Murchad Húa Bríáin…his own mother´s son”[361]. It is chronologically more likely that Murchad was born from Ruaidri´s mother´s earlier marriage, considering that date of death of Ruaidri´s father.
     "m [thirdly] MOR, daughter of DOMNALL Húa Lochlainn & his wife --- (-1122). The Annals of Ulster record the death in 1122 of "Mór daughter of Domnall ua Lochlainn, wife of Tairdelbach ua Conchobuir”[362].
     "m [fourthly] TAILLTIU, daughter of MURCHAD Húa MaelSechlainn & his wife --- (-1127). The Annals of Ulster record the death in 1127 of "Tailltiu daughter of Murchad ua Mael Sechlainn, wife of Tairdelbach ua Conchobuir”[363]."
Med Lands cites:
[354] Annals of Ulster, 1088.6, p. 523.
[355] Annals of Tigernach II, Continuation, p. 330.
[356] Annals of Tigernach II, Continuation, p. 343.
[357] Annals of Tigernach II, Continuation, p. 351.
[358] Annals of Tigernach II, Continuation, p. 352.
[359] Annals of Tigernach II, Continuation, p. 396.
[360] Annals of Tigernach II, Continuation, p. 340.
[361] Annals of Tigernach II, Continuation, p. 439.
[362] Annals of Ulster, 1122-4, p. 567.
[363] Annals of Ulster, 1127.7, p. 573.3
Torlogh Ua Conchobair (?) King of Connaught was also known as Toirdelbach Húa Conchobair (?) King of Connaught.3

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Torlogh Ua Conchobair: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00647151&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#RuaidriConchobair. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#ToirdelbachConnaught

Domnall mac Briain (?)1

M, #94733, d. 1011
FatherBrian Bóruma mac Cennétig of Dál Cais, King of Munster, High of Ireland1 b. 941, d. 23 Apr 1014
MotherGormlaith ingen Murchada of Uí Dúnlainge1 b. c 960, d. 1030
Last Edited5 Jul 2020
     Domnall mac Briain (?) died in 1011.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "DOMNALL (-1011). The Annals of Inisfallen record the death in 1011 of "Domnall son of Brian”[1000]. The Annals of the Four Masters record the death in 1010 of “Domhnall son of Brian son of Ceinneidigh, son of the king of Ireland”[1001].
     "m ---. The name of Domnall´s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
[1000] Annals of Inisfallen, 1011.3, p. 181.
[1001] Annals of the Four Masters 1010.12, p. 765.2,1


; This is the same person as ”Domhnall mac Briain” at Wikipedia.3 Domnall mac Briain (?) was also known as Domhnall mac Briain (?)3

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#Tordelbachdied1086A. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#BrianBorudied1014
  3. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domhnall_mac_Briain. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.

Carthach MacCarthy1

M, #94734, d. 1045
ReferenceEDV29
Last Edited10 Nov 2020
     Carthach MacCarthy died in 1045.1
     EDV-29.

Reference: Genealogics cites: The chieftans of Pobul-I-Callaghan, Cork (Journal of Cork Historical and Archaoelogical Society) 1897, v3 #30, Gillman, Herbert Webb. 206.1

Family

Children

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Carthach (MacCarthy): https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00721998&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Muireadach MacCarthy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00721997&tree=LEO

Muireadach MacCarthy1

M, #94735, b. 1011, d. 1092
FatherCarthach MacCarthy1 d. 1045
Last Edited6 Jul 2020
     Muireadach MacCarthy was born in 1011.1
Muireadach MacCarthy died in 1092.1
     Reference: Genealogics cites: The chieftans of Pobul-I-Callaghan, Cork (Journal of Cork Historical and Archaoelogical Society) 1897, v3 #30, Gillman, Herbert Webb. 206.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Muireadach MacCarthy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00721997&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Cormac Magh-tamnagh MacCarthy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00721996&tree=LEO

NN Mac Carthy of Desmond1

F, #94736
FatherCormac Magh-tamnagh Mac Carthy Bishop King of Cashel, King of Desmond1 d. 1138
Last Edited6 Jul 2020
     NN Mac Carthy of Desmond married Toirdhealbhach mac Diarmada Ua Briain (?) King of Munster, King of Thomond, son of Diarmait Ua Briain (?) King of Munster and Sahl MacCarty;
His 1st wife.1,2,3
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "daughter . Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the Annals of Tigernach (Continuation) which record that “Cormac son of Maic Carrthaig” was killed in 1138 by “Toirdelbach Húa Bríáin his father-in-law, gossip and fosterer” (corrected to “son-in-law” in a footnote to the edition consulted)[514].
     "m TOIRDELBACH Húa Bríáin King of Munster, son of DIARMAIT King of Munster & his wife ---."
Med Lands cites:
[514] Annals of Tigernach II, Continuation, p. 371.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#dauCormacMToirdelbachHuaBrian. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#Toirdelbachdiedafter1152
  3. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toirdhealbhach_mac_Diarmada_Ua_Briain. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.

Donough Cairbreach O'Brien King of Thomond1

M, #94737, d. 1242
FatherDomnall Mór Ua Briain (?)1,2,3 d. 1194
MotherUrlachan MacMurrough of Leinster1,2 b. 1142
Last Edited6 Jul 2020
     Donough Cairbreach O'Brien King of Thomond died in 1242.1
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. History of the O'Briens, London, 1949 , O'Brien, Hon. Donough. 7.
2. The Royal Line of Succession, Pitkin Pictorials , Montague Smith, Patrick W. 24.1


; King of Thomond.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Donough Cairbreach O'Brien: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117060&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domnall_M%C3%B3r_Ua_Briain. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/IRELAND.htm#DonoughThormonddied1194. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Conor 'na Suidaine' O'Brien: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117061&tree=LEO

Conor 'na Suidaine' O'Brien King of Thomond1

M, #94738, d. 1258
FatherDonough Cairbreach O'Brien King of Thomond1 d. 1242
Last Edited6 Jul 2020
     Conor 'na Suidaine' O'Brien King of Thomond died in 1258.1
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. History of the O'Briens, London, 1949 , O'Brien, Hon. Donough. 7.
2. The Royal Line of Succession, Pitkin Pictorials , Montague Smith, Patrick W. 24.
3. The Peerage of Ireland or a Genealogical History of the Present Nobility of That Kingdom, 1789, 7 volumes. 2:17.1


; King of Thomond.1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Conor 'na Suidaine' O'Brien: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117061&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Slany O'Brien: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00703043&tree=LEO

Slany O'Brien1

F, #94739
FatherConor 'na Suidaine' O'Brien King of Thomond1 d. 1258
Last Edited6 Jul 2020
     Slany O'Brien married Nicholas Fitz Maurice 2nd Baron Kerry & Lixnaw.2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Slany O'Brien: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00703043&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Nicholas FitzMaurice: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00703042&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aveline FitzGerald: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117260&tree=LEO

Friedrich I von Tengling Graf von Tengling1

M, #94740, d. 17 July 1074
Last Edited6 Jul 2020
     Friedrich I von Tengling Graf von Tengling married Mathilde von Vohburg, daughter of Dietpold/Diepold I (?) Count im oberen Trangau.1
Friedrich I von Tengling Graf von Tengling died on 17 July 1074.1
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/1:28, 29; 16:78.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Friedrich I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00619348&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.