Richard (?) Comte d'Amiens1

M, #60961, d. between 839 and 12 November 842
FatherRichard (?) Comte de Rouen2 d. a 796
ReferenceGAV31
Last Edited20 Jul 2020
     Richard (?) Comte d'Amiens died between 839 and 12 November 842.3
      ; NB: The relationship between Buvinus Comte de Metz and Boson l'Ancien has been explored by Settipani [1993] and is summarized by Wikipédia (Fr.) as follows:
Hypothèse actuelle
     "Mais cette reconstitution est en contradiction avec les Annales de Saint-Bertin, qui indiquent que la reine Teutberge est la tante maternelle de Boson3. Il en ressort que Bivin ne peut pas être frère de Teutberge, mais marié à une des sœurs de cette dernière.
     "Deux autres documents permettent d'envisager une autre piste pour l'origine de Bivin :
** un diplôme de l'empereur Lothaire Ier confirme en 842 une donation faite par Richard, comte et ostiaire de Louis le Pieux à la demande des exécuteurs testamentaires dont son frère Bivin.
** l'historien Richer, parlant de Charles Constantin, comte de Vienne et arrière-petit-fils de Bivin, le dit de famille royale, mais entachée de bâtardise au niveau de son tritavus, c'est-à-dire son ancêtre à la sixième génération.
     "À partir de ces données, Christian Settipani propose la reconstitution suivante4,5,6 :
1. il considère que la famille royale dont Charles Constantin est membre est la famille carolingienne, et que le terme de « famille » concerne dans ce contexte exclusivement la lignée masculine.
2. il considère que, chronologiquement, le tritavus est un fils bâtard de Charles Martel.
3. les seuls fils bâtards connus de Charles Martel sont Remi, évêque de Rouen, qui n'a pas eu de descendance, et le comte Jérôme. Pour Settipani, le tritavus de Charles Constantin est le comte Jérôme.
4. Les prénoms de Richard, porté par un frère et un fils de Bivin, sont peu fréquents au viiie siècle et la seconde épouse du comte Jérôme est une princesse gothe. Il rapproche le prénom de Richard avec celui de Reccared porté par deux rois des Wisigoths (Reccared Ier et Reccared II) et identifie les générations intermédiaires avec les quelques Richard connus."
See the attached diagram of the ancestry as proposed by Settipani [1993], from Wikipédia (Fr.)
Conclusion: Settipani's proposals a certainly speculative, and Med Lands offers a critique and some counter-proposals (which are noted in my Med Lands Notes for the individuals concerned. For now, I have chosed to try to reconstruct the lineage as outlined by Settipani (see attached chart). GA Vaut.2,4,5

; Per Med Lands:
     "RICHARD (-[839/12 Nov 842]). "Albericus episcopus et Rihhardus comes" are named as imperial missi in "Lugdunum, Tarantasia et Vienna" in documents of Emperor Louis dated May 825 and 827[636]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Fulconem…abbatem et Richardum comitem et Adrebaldum abbatem" as imperial missi to the emperor's son Lothaire [in 836][637]. He supported joint-Emperor Lothaire I against his father Emperor Louis I "le Pieux", resulting in the confiscation of his assets. Emperor Louis restored property "in Arduenna…Villantia" to "Richardo tunc tempore ostiario nostris" by charter dated 26 Jun 839[638]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that "Wala Corbeiensis abbas, Matfridus, Hugo, Lantbertus, Godefridus, itemque filius eius Godefridus, Agimbertus comes Pertensis…sed et Richardus" died between "Kal Sep usque ad missam sancti Martini" [in 836][639], although presumably "Richardus" was not the same person as the brother of Buvinus, assuming the reference to 839 above is correct. Emperor Lothaire confirmed a donation of property "in pago Arduennensi sitam…Villantia" to the abbey of Prüm by "Richardus quondam comes…per Biuinum fratrem suum, et Gerardum et Basinum qui et Tancredus comites" by charter dated 12 Nov 842[640], indicating that Richard had died before this date."
Med Lands cites:
[636] Capitula Missorum 1, and Capitula 25, MGH LL 1, pp. 246 and 295.
[637] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 55, MGH SS II, p. 641.
[638] Beyer, H. (ed.) (1860) Urkundenbuch zur Geschichte der, jetzt die Preussischen Regierungsbezirke Coblenz und Trier bildenden Mittelrheinischen Territorien (Coblenz), Vol. I, (“Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I”) 66, p. 74, consulted at (12 Dec 2007), and RHGF VI, CCXXXV, p. 625.
[639] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 56, MGH SS II, p. 642.
[640] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch 70, p. 75.6


; This is the same person as ”Richard d'Amiens” at Wikipédia (Fr.)7

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/1:Neu corrections.1 GAV-31. He was living in 801.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richard: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020450&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Bivin de Vienne: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bivin_de_Vienne. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Buvinusdied863B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S4753] Christian Settipani, La Préhistoire des Capétiens, 481-987, première partie - Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (n.p.: Van Kerrebrouck, 1993). Hereinafter cited as Settipani [1993] La Préhistoire des Capétiens.
  5. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 25 June 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#RichardAmiens801B
  7. [S4742] Wikipédia (FR), online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Richard d'Amiens: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_d%27Amiens

Gaucher/Gauthier de Bourbourg Châtelain de Bourbourg1,2

M, #60962, d. circa 1213
FatherHenri de Bourbourg Constable of Bourbourg1,2 b. 1090, d. 1168
MotherBeatrice (?) of Aalst3,2 d. b 1160
ReferenceEDV26
Last Edited6 Nov 2020
     Gaucher/Gauthier de Bourbourg Châtelain de Bourbourg married Mathilde (Mahaut) de Béthune, daughter of Robert V "Le Roux" de Béthune seigneur de Béthune, Richebourg, Warneton et Choques, avoué d’Arras and Adelaide de St. Pol,
; her 1st husband.4,1,2
Gaucher/Gauthier de Bourbourg Châtelain de Bourbourg died circa 1213.1,2
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 57.1 EDV-25.

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gaucher: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174511&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bethune.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice of Aalst: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00451638&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde de Béthune: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174512&tree=LEO
  5. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Guines page (Guines family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/guines.html
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Béthune, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bethune.pdf
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Béatrice de Bourbourg: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108750&tree=LEO
  8. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#BeatrixBourbourgMArnoulGuines. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Mathilde (Mahaut) de Béthune1,2

F, #60963
FatherRobert V "Le Roux" de Béthune seigneur de Béthune, Richebourg, Warneton et Choques, avoué d’Arras1,3,2 b. c 1130, d. 10 Jan 1191
MotherAdelaide de St. Pol1,4,2
ReferenceEDV26
Last Edited6 Nov 2020
     Mathilde (Mahaut) de Béthune married Gaucher/Gauthier de Bourbourg Châtelain de Bourbourg, son of Henri de Bourbourg Constable of Bourbourg and Beatrice (?) of Aalst,
; her 1st husband.1,5,2 Mathilde (Mahaut) de Béthune married Hugues de Houdain seigneur de Choques
; her 2nd husband.6,2
     EDV-26.

; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 57.1

Family 1

Hugues de Houdain seigneur de Choques

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde de Béthune: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174512&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bethune.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert V: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00122016&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelise: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00122017&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gaucher: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174511&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues de Houdain: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174513&tree=LEO
  7. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Guines page (Guines family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/guines.html
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Béatrice de Bourbourg: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108750&tree=LEO
  9. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Béthune, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bethune.pdf
  10. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#BeatrixBourbourgMArnoulGuines. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Baudoin II de Guines Comte de Guines1,2

M, #60965, b. 1135, d. 2 January 1205
FatherArnoul/Arnulf I (?) Comte de Guînes1,2,3,4 b. a 1101, d. 1169
MotherMahaut/Maud de Saint-Omer1,2,5,4
ReferenceEDV26
Last Edited7 Nov 2020
     Baudoin II de Guines Comte de Guines married Christine d'Ardres, daughter of Arnould IV de Marcq (?) Seigneur d'Ardres and Adeline d'Ardres.6,1
Baudoin II de Guines Comte de Guines was born in 1135.2
Baudoin II de Guines Comte de Guines died on 2 January 1205.1,2
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 81.1 EDV-26.

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Baudoin II de Guines: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174406&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Guines page (Guines family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/guines.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Arnould: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174413&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#ArnoulIGentGuinesdied1169B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mahaut de Saint-Omer: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174414&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Christine d'Ardres: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174407&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mabilia de Guines: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00121883&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Arnould II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108749&tree=LEO
  9. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#ArnoulIIGuinesdied1220B

Christine d'Ardres1

F, #60966, d. 2 July 1177
FatherArnould IV de Marcq (?) Seigneur d'Ardres2,1,3
MotherAdeline d'Ardres1,4,5 d. 1176
ReferenceEDV26
Last Edited4 Nov 2020
     Christine d'Ardres married Baudoin II de Guines Comte de Guines, son of Arnoul/Arnulf I (?) Comte de Guînes and Mahaut/Maud de Saint-Omer.1,6

Christine d'Ardres died on 2 July 1177.3
     EDV-26.

; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 81.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Christine d'Ardres: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174407&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Arnould IV de Marcq: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174408&tree=LEO
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Guines page (Guines family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/guines.html
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adélide d'Ardres: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174409&tree=LEO
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#ArnaudColvideArdresMAdelineArdres. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Baudoin II de Guines: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174406&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mabilia de Guines: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00121883&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Arnould II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108749&tree=LEO
  9. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#ArnoulIIGuinesdied1220B

Arnould IV de Marcq (?) Seigneur d'Ardres1

M, #60967
Last Edited19 Oct 2020
     Arnould IV de Marcq (?) Seigneur d'Ardres married Adeline d'Ardres, daughter of Arnaud I d'Ardres Seigneur d'Ardres, Vicomte de Marchiennes and Gertrude van Gent.1,2,3,4

      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 81.1 Arnould IV de Marcq (?) Seigneur d'Ardres was also known as Arnaud de Colvide Vicomte de Marchiennes.3

; Per Med Lands:
     "ARNAUD de Colvide (-[1176]). Vicomte de Marchiennes after 1136. The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium quotes a charter under which “B....heres et dominus Ardee” donated property to Ardres, dated 1144, witnessed by “...Arnulphus Marciniensis vicecomes sororius noster...”[1413]. Seigneur d’Ardres 1147. The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium records that, after the death of "Balduino...patre meo", "Markiniensi vicecomiti Arnoldo de Colvida sororio suo" was installed as seigneur d’Ardres, despite the claim made by “Balduinus de Varneselia et de Harselia dominus” that he was the closer heir as the son of “Agnes soror...Ardensis domini quondam Balduini” which was rejected as his mother was deceased[1414]. "...Ernoldus dominus de Arda, Simon frater eius..." witnessed the undated charter, dated to after 1146, under which "Ernoldus...comes Gisnensis" confirmed donations to Saint-Bertin[1415]. "...Arnulfus vicecomes de Arda, Simon frater eius..." witnessed the undated charter, dated to after 1146, under which "Arnulfus...comes Gisnensium" donated property to Clairmarests abbey[1416]. "...Arnoldus vicecomes..." witnessed the undated charter, dated to [1146/69], under which "Arnulfus... Gisnensium comes" donated property to Clairmarests abbey[1417]. "...Arnulfus vicecomes de Marchennes..." witnessed the undated charter, dated to [1146/69], under which "Arnulfi... Guisnensium comitis" donated property to Clairmarests abbey[1418].
     "m ADELINE d’Ardres, daughter of ARNAUD [I] Seigneur d’Ardres & his wife Gertrude --- (-after 1147). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium records that "Markiniensi vicecomiti Arnoldo de Colvida" held land “in Ardea ex parte uxoris sue Adeline”, adding that she was “domini Balduini soror”[1419]."
Med Lands cites:
[1413] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 137, MGH SS XXIV, p. 631.
[1414] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 144, MGH SS XXIV, pp. 634-5.
[1415] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 94.
[1416] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 95.
[1417] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 95.
[1418] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 96.
[1419] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 144, MGH SS XXIV, p. 635.3

Family

Adeline d'Ardres d. 1176
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Arnould IV de Marcq: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174408&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adélide d'Ardres: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174409&tree=LEO
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#ArnaudColvideArdresMAdelineArdres. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#AdelineArdresMArnaudArdres
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Christine d'Ardres: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174407&tree=LEO
  6. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Guines page (Guines family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/guines.html

Adeline d'Ardres1

F, #60968, d. 1176
FatherArnaud I d'Ardres Seigneur d'Ardres, Vicomte de Marchiennes1 d. a 1136
MotherGertrude van Gent1 d. 1138
ReferenceEDV26
Last Edited4 Nov 2020
     Adeline d'Ardres married Arnould IV de Marcq (?) Seigneur d'Ardres.2,3,4,1

Adeline d'Ardres died in 1176.4
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "ARNAUD de Colvide (-[1176]). Vicomte de Marchiennes after 1136. The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium quotes a charter under which “B....heres et dominus Ardee” donated property to Ardres, dated 1144, witnessed by “...Arnulphus Marciniensis vicecomes sororius noster...”[1413]. Seigneur d’Ardres 1147. The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium records that, after the death of "Balduino...patre meo", "Markiniensi vicecomiti Arnoldo de Colvida sororio suo" was installed as seigneur d’Ardres, despite the claim made by “Balduinus de Varneselia et de Harselia dominus” that he was the closer heir as the son of “Agnes soror...Ardensis domini quondam Balduini” which was rejected as his mother was deceased[1414]. "...Ernoldus dominus de Arda, Simon frater eius..." witnessed the undated charter, dated to after 1146, under which "Ernoldus...comes Gisnensis" confirmed donations to Saint-Bertin[1415]. "...Arnulfus vicecomes de Arda, Simon frater eius..." witnessed the undated charter, dated to after 1146, under which "Arnulfus...comes Gisnensium" donated property to Clairmarests abbey[1416]. "...Arnoldus vicecomes..." witnessed the undated charter, dated to [1146/69], under which "Arnulfus... Gisnensium comes" donated property to Clairmarests abbey[1417]. "...Arnulfus vicecomes de Marchennes..." witnessed the undated charter, dated to [1146/69], under which "Arnulfi... Guisnensium comitis" donated property to Clairmarests abbey[1418].
     "m ADELINE d’Ardres, daughter of ARNAUD [I] Seigneur d’Ardres & his wife Gertrude --- (-after 1147). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium records that "Markiniensi vicecomiti Arnoldo de Colvida" held land “in Ardea ex parte uxoris sue Adeline”, adding that she was “domini Balduini soror”[1419]."
Med Lands cites:
[1413] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 137, MGH SS XXIV, p. 631.
[1414] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 144, MGH SS XXIV, pp. 634-5.
[1415] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 94.
[1416] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 95.
[1417] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 95.
[1418] Duchesne (1631), Guines, Preuves, p. 96.
[1419] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 144, MGH SS XXIV, p. 635.4


; Per Med Lands:
     "ADELINE d’Ardres (-after 1147). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium records that "Markiniensi vicecomiti Arnoldo de Colvida" held land “in Ardea ex parte uxoris sue Adeline”, adding that she was “domini Balduini soror”[1400].
     "m ARNAUD de Colvide Vicomte de Marchiennes, son of ---. "
Med Lands cites: [1400] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 144, MGH SS XXIV, p. 635.1 EDV-27. Adeline d'Ardres was also known as Adelide d'Ardres.5

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 81.3

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#AdelineArdresMArnaudArdres. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Arnould IV de Marcq: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174408&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adélide d'Ardres: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174409&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#ArnaudColvideArdresMAdelineArdres
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelide d'Ardres: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174409&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Christine d'Ardres: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174407&tree=LEO

Guillaume II de Saint-Omer Châtelain de Saint-Omer1,2,3,4,5

M, #60969, b. circa 1070, d. after 1143
FatherGuillaume I de Saint-Omer Chatelain de Saint-Omer6,7,8,1,5 d. bt 1126 - 1128
MotherAganitrude (?) van Brugge7,8,9,10,1,5 b. b 1080
ReferenceEDV25
Last Edited8 Nov 2020
     Guillaume II de Saint-Omer Châtelain de Saint-Omer was born circa 1070.5 He married Mélisende de Picquigny, daughter of Arnoul de Picquigny chevalier, seigneur de Picquigny, vidame d'Amiens, in 1084.1,3,2,5,11,12,13

Guillaume II de Saint-Omer Châtelain de Saint-Omer died after 1143; Med Lands says d. 1143 or after.14,3,5
     EDV-25.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 623; VII 81.


Geneagraphie cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, Detlev Schwennicke, 81 (Reliability: 3).
Neue Folge Bd. VII, Familien des Alten Lotharingen II; J. A. Stargard, Marburg 1979.1,5

; Per Med Lands:
     "GUILLAUME [II] de Saint-Omer, son of [GUILLAUME [I] Châtelain de Saint-Omer] & his [first wife ---] (-1143 or after). Châtelain de Saint-Omer. "Willelmi castellani, Hostis et Willelmi fratris eius" signed the charter dated 1132 under which Thierry Count of Flanders exchanged land with the abbey of Saint-Bertin[713]. "Willelmo quoque castellano et Waltero eius filio" signed the charter dated 1143 under which Thierry Count of Flanders exchanged land with the abbey of Saint-Omer[714].
     "m MELISENDE de Picquigny, daughter of ARNAUD de Picquigny & his wife ---. The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "de…regis Francorum Karoli Magni stirpe et familia progenitam, Ernulphi vicedomini de Pinkinio filiam…Milesendem" as wife of "Willelmus Andomarensis castellanus"[715]."
Med Lands cites:
[713] Giry ‘Les chàtelains de Saint-Omer’ (1874), p. 340, quoting Grand cartulaire de Saint-Bertin, ms. de la bibl. de Saint-Omer, no. 803, t. I, p. 228.
[714] Giry ‘Les chàtelains de Saint-Omer’ (1874), p. 340, quoting Archives du chapitre de Saint-Omer, II, G.
[715] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 46, MGH SS XXIV, p. 584.3


; Per Racines et Histoire (Saint-Omer): “Guillaume II de Saint-Omer ° 1080/4 + après 1132 (~1143/44 ?) Châtelain de Saint-Omer, seigneur de Beaurain(g) (souscrit charte 02/08/1128 de Thierri d’Alsace, comte de Flandres ; nombreux actes jusqu’en 1143)
ép. Melis(s)ende de Picquigny ° ~1090 (fille d’Arnaud de Picquigny ; soeur de Guermond, Patriarche de Jérusalem) ”


Per Racines et Histoire (Picquigny): “ Mélissende (Melesinde, Milesende) de Picquigny
ép.1084 Guillaume II, Châtelain de Saint-Omer fl ~1126/43 (soutient Arnould 1er, comte de Guines ; souscrit la charte de commune octroyée à Saint-Omer en 1127 par Guillaume Cliton, comte de Flandres)”.4,2

; Per Wikipédia (FR):
     "Guillaume II de Saint-Omer (°1085, †1143), X Melisinde de Picquigny, fille de Arnoul de Picquigny."15

; Per Med Lands:
     "MELISENDE de Picquigny . The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "de…regis Francorum Karoli Magni stirpe et familia progenitam, Ernulphi vicedomini de Pinkinio filiam…Milesendem" as wife of "Willelmus Andomarensis castellanus"[221]. Her alleged descent from Charlemagne has not been traced.
     "m GUILLAUME [II] Châtelain de Saint-Omer, son of [GUILLAUME [I] Châtelain de Saint-Omer] & his [first wife ---] (-1143 or after)."
Med Lands cites:
[221] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 46, MGH SS XXIV, p. 584.3
He was living between 1126 and 1143.14,1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174415&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Picquigny, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Picquigny.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#GuillaumeIISaintOmerdied1143B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Châtelains de Saint-Omer & Morbecque, Fauquembergues, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Saint-Omer.pdf@#$%.
  5. [S4743] Geneagraphie - Families all over the world (Website), online <http://geneagraphie.com/>, Guillaume de Saint Omer, II: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I381421&tree=1. Hereinafter cited as Geneagraphie.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00275713&tree=LEO
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#GuillaumeIStOmerMAganitrudeBruges
  8. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Châtelains de Saint-Omer & Morbecque, Fauquembergues, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Saint-Omer.pdf
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aganitrude van Brugge: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00275714&tree=LEO
  10. [S4743] Geneagraphie, online http://geneagraphie.com/, Aganitrude de Bruges: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I381424&tree=1
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Millesende de Picquigny: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174416&tree=LEO
  12. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfraamp.htm#MelisendePicquignyMGuillaumeStOmer
  13. [S4743] Geneagraphie, online http://geneagraphie.com/, Mélissende de Picquigny: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I381422&tree=1
  14. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Picquigny.pdf, p. 2.
  15. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Maison de Saint-Omer: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maison_de_Saint-Omer. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  16. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mahaut de Saint-Omer: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174414&tree=LEO
  17. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Guines page (Guines family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/guines.html
  18. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#MahautStOmerMArnouldIGuines
  19. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00275715&tree=LEO
  20. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Châtelains de Saint-Omer & Morbecque, Fauquembergues , p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Saint-Omer.pdf
  21. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/JERUSALEM%20NOBILITY.htm#GuillaumeTiberiasdiedbefore1204

Mélisende de Picquigny1,2,3,4

F, #60970, b. circa 1070
FatherArnoul de Picquigny chevalier, seigneur de Picquigny, vidame d'Amiens1,2,3,4
Last Edited8 Nov 2020
     Mélisende de Picquigny was born circa 1070.4 She married Guillaume II de Saint-Omer Châtelain de Saint-Omer, son of Guillaume I de Saint-Omer Chatelain de Saint-Omer and Aganitrude (?) van Brugge, in 1084.5,6,2,7,1,3,4

      ; Per Wikipédia (FR):
     "Guillaume II de Saint-Omer (°1085, †1143), X Melisinde de Picquigny, fille de Arnoul de Picquigny."8

; Per Racines et Histoire (Saint-Omer): “Guillaume II de Saint-Omer ° 1080/4 + après 1132 (~1143/44 ?) Châtelain de Saint-Omer, seigneur de Beaurain(g) (souscrit charte 02/08/1128 de Thierri d’Alsace, comte de Flandres ; nombreux actes jusqu’en 1143)
ép. Melis(s)ende de Picquigny ° ~1090 (fille d’Arnaud de Picquigny ; soeur de Guermond, Patriarche de Jérusalem) ”


Per Racines et Histoire (Picquigny): “ Mélissende (Melesinde, Milesende) de Picquigny
ép.1084 Guillaume II, Châtelain de Saint-Omer fl ~1126/43 (soutient Arnould 1er, comte de Guines ; souscrit la charte de commune octroyée à Saint-Omer en 1127 par Guillaume Cliton, comte de Flandres)”.9,2

; Per Med Lands:
     "GUILLAUME [II] de Saint-Omer, son of [GUILLAUME [I] Châtelain de Saint-Omer] & his [first wife ---] (-1143 or after). Châtelain de Saint-Omer. "Willelmi castellani, Hostis et Willelmi fratris eius" signed the charter dated 1132 under which Thierry Count of Flanders exchanged land with the abbey of Saint-Bertin[713]. "Willelmo quoque castellano et Waltero eius filio" signed the charter dated 1143 under which Thierry Count of Flanders exchanged land with the abbey of Saint-Omer[714].
     "m MELISENDE de Picquigny, daughter of ARNAUD de Picquigny & his wife ---. The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "de…regis Francorum Karoli Magni stirpe et familia progenitam, Ernulphi vicedomini de Pinkinio filiam…Milesendem" as wife of "Willelmus Andomarensis castellanus"[715]."
Med Lands cites:
[713] Giry ‘Les chàtelains de Saint-Omer’ (1874), p. 340, quoting Grand cartulaire de Saint-Bertin, ms. de la bibl. de Saint-Omer, no. 803, t. I, p. 228.
[714] Giry ‘Les chàtelains de Saint-Omer’ (1874), p. 340, quoting Archives du chapitre de Saint-Omer, II, G.
[715] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 46, MGH SS XXIV, p. 584.6


Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 81.


Geneagraphie cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, Detlev Schwennicke, 81 (Reliability: 3). Neue Folge Bd. VII, Familien des Alten Lotharingen II; J. A. Stargard, Marburg 1979.1,4

; Per Med Lands:
     "MELISENDE de Picquigny . The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "de…regis Francorum Karoli Magni stirpe et familia progenitam, Ernulphi vicedomini de Pinkinio filiam…Milesendem" as wife of "Willelmus Andomarensis castellanus"[221]. Her alleged descent from Charlemagne has not been traced.
     "m GUILLAUME [II] Châtelain de Saint-Omer, son of [GUILLAUME [I] Châtelain de Saint-Omer] & his [first wife ---] (-1143 or after)."
Med Lands cites:
[221] Historia Comitum Ghisnensium 46, MGH SS XXIV, p. 584.6

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Millesende de Picquigny: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174416&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Picquigny, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Picquigny.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfraamp.htm#MelisendePicquignyMGuillaumeStOmer. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S4743] Geneagraphie - Families all over the world (Website), online <http://geneagraphie.com/>, Mélissende de Picquigny: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I381422&tree=1. Hereinafter cited as Geneagraphie.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174415&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#GuillaumeIISaintOmerdied1143B
  7. [S4743] Geneagraphie, online http://geneagraphie.com/, Guillaume de Saint Omer, II: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I381421&tree=1
  8. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Maison de Saint-Omer: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maison_de_Saint-Omer. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  9. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Châtelains de Saint-Omer & Morbecque, Fauquembergues, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Saint-Omer.pdf@#$%.
  10. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Guines page (Guines family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/guines.html
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mahaut de Saint-Omer: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174414&tree=LEO
  12. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#MahautStOmerMArnouldIGuines
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00275715&tree=LEO
  14. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Châtelains de Saint-Omer & Morbecque, Fauquembergues , p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Saint-Omer.pdf
  15. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/JERUSALEM%20NOBILITY.htm#GuillaumeTiberiasdiedbefore1204

Guillaume III de Saint-Omer Chatelain de Saint-Omer1

M, #60971
FatherGuillaume II de Saint-Omer Châtelain de Saint-Omer1,2,3,4 b. c 1070, d. a 1143
MotherMélisende de Picquigny1,5,3,6 b. c 1070
Last Edited21 Sep 2020
     Guillaume III de Saint-Omer Chatelain de Saint-Omer married Marie (?) de Brienne, daughter of Gauthier II de Brienne Comte de Brienne, seigneur de Ramerupt and NN de Soissons.7

     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 623.8

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00275715&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174415&tree=LEO
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#GuillaumeIISaintOmerdied1143B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S4743] Geneagraphie - Families all over the world (Website), online <http://geneagraphie.com/>, Guillaume de Saint Omer, II: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I381421&tree=1. Hereinafter cited as Geneagraphie.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Millesende de Picquigny: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174416&tree=LEO
  6. [S4743] Geneagraphie, online http://geneagraphie.com/, Mélissende de Picquigny: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I381422&tree=1
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00275716&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume III: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00275715&tree=LEO
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume IV: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00275710&tree=LEO
  10. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avesnes.pdf, p. 4. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Comtesse de Sancerre1

F, #60972, d. after 1275
FatherEtienne II de Sancerre seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Loing1,2 d. 1252
MotherEleonore/Alienor de Soissons1,2,3 d. bt 1229 - 1234
Last Edited21 Dec 2020
     Comtesse de Sancerre married Adam III de Melun Vicomte de Melun.1,4

Comtesse de Sancerre died after 1275.1
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "COMTESSE de Sancerre (-after 1275). Her parentage and marriage are indicated by the decision of the Paris parliament dated 1263 granting a share in their paternal inheritance “de Lopa et de Marcheisvillam”, which they claimed from “leur frère le comte de Sancerre”, to “la dame de Dangu et à la vicomtesse de Melun”[908]. Dame de La Loupe, de Marcheville, de Concressault et d'Esprennes.
     "m ([1239/44]) ADAM [III] Vicomte de Melun, son of GUILLAUME [II] Vicomte de Melun & his wife Agnes de Montreuil-Bellay (-9 Feb 1250)."
Med Lands cites: [908] Boutaric (1863), Tome I, 775, p. 71.1,4

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/cfragobs.htm#ComtesseSancerreMAdamIIIMelun. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Sancerre, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Sancerre.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleonore de Soissons: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00330715&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#GuillaumeIIIMelundied1278

Ida de Saint-Omer1

F, #60973, d. after 1207
FatherGuillaume IV de Saint-Omer Chatelain de Saint-Omer, seigneur de Fauquembergues1 d. bt 1190 - 1192
MotherIda (?) d'Avesnes1
Last Edited20 Sep 2020
     Ida de Saint-Omer married Gerard III (?) Prévot de Douai in 1207.2,1

Ida de Saint-Omer died after 1207.1
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIII 99.1 She was living in 1207.1

Family

Gerard III (?) Prévot de Douai d. a Sep 1221
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida de Saint-Omer: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00316180&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gérard III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00113065&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida de Douai: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00113064&tree=LEO

Gerard III (?) Prévot de Douai1

M, #60974, d. after September 1221
Last Edited15 Feb 2004
     Gerard III (?) Prévot de Douai married Ida de Saint-Omer, daughter of Guillaume IV de Saint-Omer Chatelain de Saint-Omer, seigneur de Fauquembergues and Ida (?) d'Avesnes, in 1207.1,2

Gerard III (?) Prévot de Douai died after September 1221; Will dated Sept 1221.1
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIII 99B, 16.1

Family

Ida de Saint-Omer d. a 1207
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gérard III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00113065&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida de Saint-Omer: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00316180&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida de Douai: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00113064&tree=LEO

Guillaume I de Saint-Omer Chatelain de Saint-Omer1,2,3

M, #60975, d. between 1126 and 1128
FatherBaudouin de Saint-Omer4,5 b. b 1030, d. bt 1097 - 1100
MotherMahaut de Créquy6
ReferenceEDV26
Last Edited8 Nov 2020
     Guillaume I de Saint-Omer Chatelain de Saint-Omer married Unknown (?)
;
His 1st wife.2 Guillaume I de Saint-Omer Chatelain de Saint-Omer married Aganitrude (?) van Brugge, daughter of NN van Brugge, circa 1080
;
His 2nd wife; her 1st husband.7,2,6,8,9,10
Guillaume I de Saint-Omer Chatelain de Saint-Omer died between 1126 and 1128; Genealogics says d. aft 1100; Med Lands says d. bef 1128; Racines et Histoire says d. 1126/1128.1,2,6
     EDV-26.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 623.7

; Per Wikipédia (FR):
     "Guillaume Ier de Saint-Omer (°1055, †1128) (ou Hoston de Saint-Omer), participe à la première croisade en tant que vassal de Robert II de Flandre X Aganitrude de Bruges."4

; Per Racines et Histoire (Saint-Omer): “Guillaume 1er fl 1097/1100-1126/28 + 1143 ou après Châtelain (burchgraeve ou vicomte) de Saint-Omer (témoin de la comtesse Clémence ~1097/1100 ; d’une convention entre Henry 1er d’Angleterre et du comte Robert de Flandres ; témoin d’un acte du comte de Flandres 1111 à Bergues en faveur du monastère de Bourbourg et nombreux actes entre 1112 et 1126 ; charte de Thierri d’Alsace, comte de Flandres à Saint-Bertin en 1132)
     ép. ~1080 Agan(i)trude dite «de Bruges» ° ~1060/65 (originaire de Bruges ; elle ép. 2) Alard de Warneton) ”.6

; Per Genealogy.EU (Stomer 1): “The family was founded by Guillaume I, chatelain de Saint-Omer 1100/28; m.Aganitrude, a woman from Bruges”.11

; Per Med Lands:
     "GUILLAUME [I] de Saint-Omer, son of --- (-before 1128). Châtelain de Saint-Omer. Châtelain Guillaume witnessed the charter dated to [1097/1100] under which Clémence Ctss of Flanders granted land to "son neveu Anselme de Parenti"[697]. "…Willelmus castellanus Sancti Audomari, Rogerus castellanus Islensis, Geraufus castellanus Casletensis…Robertus nepos Rogeri castellani Islensis…" signed the charter dated 15 Feb 1113 under which Baudouin VII Count of Flanders attested that "Walterio Hisdinensi" had committed to defend the abbey of Saint-Silvin d’Auchy[698]. "…Willelmus castellanus Sancti Audomari, Hugo nepos eius, Gillebertus frater eius…" signed a charter dated 29 Nov 1121 under which Charles Count of Flanders donated property to the monastery of Bourbourg[699]. "…Willelmus castellanus de Sancto Audomaro, Hugo nepos eius, Giselbertus frater eius…" witnessed the charter dated 7 Jul 1123 under which "Hugo de Sancto Paulo cognomen habens Campdaveine" donated property to the monastery of Bourbourg, in the presence of Charles Count of Flanders[700].
     "[m firstly ---. No direct information has been found about this supposed first marriage. However, Guillaume [I]’s supposed grandsons were already recorded, and therefore were probably adult, in the early 1140s (see below). If this is correct, Hosto’s paternal grandmother would have probably been too old for a second marriage in [1128], when Guillaume [I]’s wife Aganitrude is recorded with her second husband. This suggests that Guillaume [I]’s children were born from an earlier unrecorded first marriage.]
     "m [secondly] as her first husband, AGANITRUDE, daughter of ---. Her family background and two marriages are confirmed by the Vita Karoli Comitis Flandriæ which records that, after Charles Count of Flanders was killed, Bertulf took refuge with "Alardi Warnesunensis" who had married "neptem illius Aganitrudem", adding that she was "castri…sancti Audomari quondam castellanam"[701]. This source does not specify the name of her first husband, but as the châtelain de Saint-Omer is named Guillaume in the sources dated between 1113 and 1126, it is likely that this was the Aganitrude’s husband. She married secondly Alard de Warneton."
Med Lands cites:
[697] Giry ‘Les chàtelains de Saint-Omer’ (1874), pp. 325-6.
[698] Duvivier (1898), p. 252.
[699] Duvivier (1898), p. 237.
[700] Duvivier (1898), p. 238.
[701] Vita Karoli Comitis Flandriæ 37, MGH SS XII, p. 554.2


; Per Med Lands:
     "AGANITRUDE . Her family background and two marriages are confirmed by the Vita Karoli Comitis Flandriæ which records that, after Charles Count of Flanders was killed, Bertulf took refuge with "Alardi Warnesunensis" who had married "neptem illius Aganitrudem", adding that she was "castri…sancti Audomari quondam castellanam"[88]. This source does not specify the name of her first husband, but as the châtelain de Saint-Omer is named Guillaume in the sources dated between 1113 and 1126, it is likely that this was the Aganitrude’s husband.
     "m firstly [as his second wife,] GUILLAUME [I] Châtelain de Saint-Omer, son of --- (-before 1128).
     "m secondly (1128) ALARD de Warneton, son of ---."
Med Lands cites:
[88] Vita Karoli Comitis Flandriæ 37, MGH SS XII, p. 554.9
He was living between 1097 and 1100.7,6

Family 1

Unknown (?)

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00275713&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#GuillaumeIStOmerMAganitrudeBruges. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S4743] Geneagraphie - Families all over the world (Website), online <http://geneagraphie.com/>, Guillaume de Saint Omer: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I381423&tree=1. Hereinafter cited as Geneagraphie.
  4. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Maison de Saint-Omer: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maison_de_Saint-Omer. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  5. [S4806] Généalogie de la famille de Carné, online <http://www.decarne.com/gencar/gencar.html>, http://www.decarne.com/gencar/pag654.html#24. Hereinafter cited as Généalogie de Carné.
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Châtelains de Saint-Omer & Morbecque, Fauquembergues, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Saint-Omer.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00275713&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aganitrude van Brugge: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00275714&tree=LEO
  9. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLEMISH%20NOBILITY.htm#AganitrudeM1GuillaumeSaintOmer
  10. [S4743] Geneagraphie, online http://geneagraphie.com/, Aganitrude de Bruges: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I381424&tree=1
  11. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, The chatelains de Saint-Omer: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/stomer.html
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174415&tree=LEO
  13. [S4743] Geneagraphie, online http://geneagraphie.com/, Guillaume de Saint Omer, II: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I381421&tree=1
  14. [S4743] Geneagraphie, online http://geneagraphie.com/, Robert de Fauconberg: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I567094&tree=1

Aganitrude (?) van Brugge1,2,3

F, #60976, b. before 1080
FatherNN van Brugge2
Last Edited19 Oct 2020
     Aganitrude (?) van Brugge was born before 1080.3 She married Guillaume I de Saint-Omer Chatelain de Saint-Omer, son of Baudouin de Saint-Omer and Mahaut de Créquy, circa 1080
;
His 2nd wife; her 1st husband.4,5,6,1,2,3 Aganitrude (?) van Brugge married Alard de Warneton between 1126 and 1128
;
Her 2nd husband.7,1,2
      ; Per Wikipédia (FR):
     "Guillaume Ier de Saint-Omer (°1055, †1128) (ou Hoston de Saint-Omer), participe à la première croisade en tant que vassal de Robert II de Flandre X Aganitrude de Bruges."8

; Per Racines et Histoire (Saint-Omer): “Guillaume 1er fl 1097/1100-1126/28 + 1143 ou après Châtelain (burchgraeve ou vicomte) de Saint-Omer (témoin de la comtesse Clémence ~1097/1100 ; d’une convention entre Henry 1er d’Angleterre et du comte Robert de Flandres ; témoin d’un acte du comte de Flandres 1111 à Bergues en faveur du monastère de Bourbourg et nombreux actes entre 1112 et 1126 ; charte de Thierri d’Alsace, comte de Flandres à Saint-Bertin en 1132)
     ép. ~1080 Agan(i)trude dite «de Bruges» ° ~1060/65 (originaire de Bruges ; elle ép. 2) Alard de Warneton) ”.6

; Per Genealogy.EU (Stomer 1): “The family was founded by Guillaume I, chatelain de Saint-Omer 1100/28; m.Aganitrude, a woman from Bruges”.9
; Per Med Lands:
     "GUILLAUME [I] de Saint-Omer, son of --- (-before 1128). Châtelain de Saint-Omer. Châtelain Guillaume witnessed the charter dated to [1097/1100] under which Clémence Ctss of Flanders granted land to "son neveu Anselme de Parenti"[697]. "…Willelmus castellanus Sancti Audomari, Rogerus castellanus Islensis, Geraufus castellanus Casletensis…Robertus nepos Rogeri castellani Islensis…" signed the charter dated 15 Feb 1113 under which Baudouin VII Count of Flanders attested that "Walterio Hisdinensi" had committed to defend the abbey of Saint-Silvin d’Auchy[698]. "…Willelmus castellanus Sancti Audomari, Hugo nepos eius, Gillebertus frater eius…" signed a charter dated 29 Nov 1121 under which Charles Count of Flanders donated property to the monastery of Bourbourg[699]. "…Willelmus castellanus de Sancto Audomaro, Hugo nepos eius, Giselbertus frater eius…" witnessed the charter dated 7 Jul 1123 under which "Hugo de Sancto Paulo cognomen habens Campdaveine" donated property to the monastery of Bourbourg, in the presence of Charles Count of Flanders[700].
     "[m firstly ---. No direct information has been found about this supposed first marriage. However, Guillaume [I]’s supposed grandsons were already recorded, and therefore were probably adult, in the early 1140s (see below). If this is correct, Hosto’s paternal grandmother would have probably been too old for a second marriage in [1128], when Guillaume [I]’s wife Aganitrude is recorded with her second husband. This suggests that Guillaume [I]’s children were born from an earlier unrecorded first marriage.]
     "m [secondly] as her first husband, AGANITRUDE, daughter of ---. Her family background and two marriages are confirmed by the Vita Karoli Comitis Flandriæ which records that, after Charles Count of Flanders was killed, Bertulf took refuge with "Alardi Warnesunensis" who had married "neptem illius Aganitrudem", adding that she was "castri…sancti Audomari quondam castellanam"[701]. This source does not specify the name of her first husband, but as the châtelain de Saint-Omer is named Guillaume in the sources dated between 1113 and 1126, it is likely that this was the Aganitrude’s husband. She married secondly Alard de Warneton."
Med Lands cites:
[697] Giry ‘Les chàtelains de Saint-Omer’ (1874), pp. 325-6.
[698] Duvivier (1898), p. 252.
[699] Duvivier (1898), p. 237.
[700] Duvivier (1898), p. 238.
[701] Vita Karoli Comitis Flandriæ 37, MGH SS XII, p. 554.5


Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 623.1

; Per Med Lands:
     "AGANITRUDE . Her family background and two marriages are confirmed by the Vita Karoli Comitis Flandriæ which records that, after Charles Count of Flanders was killed, Bertulf took refuge with "Alardi Warnesunensis" who had married "neptem illius Aganitrudem", adding that she was "castri…sancti Audomari quondam castellanam"[88]. This source does not specify the name of her first husband, but as the châtelain de Saint-Omer is named Guillaume in the sources dated between 1113 and 1126, it is likely that this was the Aganitrude’s husband.
     "m firstly [as his second wife,] GUILLAUME [I] Châtelain de Saint-Omer, son of --- (-before 1128).
     "m secondly (1128) ALARD de Warneton, son of ---."
Med Lands cites:
[88] Vita Karoli Comitis Flandriæ 37, MGH SS XII, p. 554.2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aganitrude van Brugge: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00275714&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLEMISH%20NOBILITY.htm#AganitrudeM1GuillaumeSaintOmer. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S4743] Geneagraphie - Families all over the world (Website), online <http://geneagraphie.com/>, Aganitrude de Bruges: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I381424&tree=1. Hereinafter cited as Geneagraphie.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00275713&tree=LEO
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#GuillaumeIStOmerMAganitrudeBruges
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Châtelains de Saint-Omer & Morbecque, Fauquembergues, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Saint-Omer.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alard de Warneton: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00587568&tree=LEO
  8. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Maison de Saint-Omer: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maison_de_Saint-Omer. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  9. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, The chatelains de Saint-Omer: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/stomer.html
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174415&tree=LEO
  11. [S4743] Geneagraphie, online http://geneagraphie.com/, Guillaume de Saint Omer, II: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I381421&tree=1
  12. [S4743] Geneagraphie, online http://geneagraphie.com/, Robert de Fauconberg: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I567094&tree=1

Lutgarde (?)1

F, #60977
Last Edited21 Jan 2008
     Lutgarde (?) married Wenemar I (?) Burggraaf van Gent, son of Lambert II (?) Burggraf van Gent and Geyla (?), in 1101
; his 1st wife.1,2,3
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 81.1 Lutgarde (?) was living in 1101.1

Family

Wenemar I (?) Burggraaf van Gent b. b 1088, d. c 1140

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lutgarde: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174411&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Guines page (GGuines family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/guines.html
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, Chapter 3. GENT: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLEMISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc111525106. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Siger I (?) Burggraf van Gent1,2

M, #60978, b. before 1114, d. after 1122
FatherWenemar I (?) Burggraaf van Gent1,3 b. b 1088, d. c 1140
MotherGisele de Guines1,4,3
Last Edited18 Jan 2014
     Siger I (?) Burggraf van Gent married Gisela (?)3
Siger I (?) Burggraf van Gent was born before 1114.1
Siger I (?) Burggraf van Gent died after 1122.3
     Reference: Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 81, 83.1 He was living in 1114.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Siger I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164662&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Guines page (Guines family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/guines.html
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, Chapter 3. GENT: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLEMISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc111525106. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gisele de Guines: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174412&tree=LEO

Wenemar II (?) Burggraaf van Gent1

M, #60979, b. before 1114
FatherWenemar I (?) Burggraaf van Gent1,2 b. b 1088, d. c 1140
MotherGisele de Guines1,3,2
Last Edited21 Jan 2008
     Wenemar II (?) Burggraaf van Gent was born before 1114.1
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 81.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Wenemar II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00263266&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, Chapter 3. GENT: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLEMISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc111525106. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gisele de Guines: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174412&tree=LEO

Adèle/Adélaïde de Nevers1,2

F, #60980
FatherGuillaume III de Nevers Comte de Nevers, d'Auxerre et de Tonnerre3,4,5,1 b. c 1107, d. 21 Nov 1161
MotherIda von Kärnten6,7,4,5,8 b. c 1130, d. 25 May 1178
ReferenceEDV26
Last Edited8 Nov 2020
     Adèle/Adélaïde de Nevers married Renaud II/IV de Joigny Comte de Joigny, son of Renaud I de Joigny Comte de Joigny and Vaindemonde de Courtenay, between 1155 and 1161.9,1,2,5,10

      ; Per Med Lands:
     "RENARD [IV] de Joigny (-[1164/72]). Comte de Joigny. A charter dated 1164 records a dispute involving "Rainardum comitem Joignaci" and the abbey of Saint-Julien d'Auxerre, witnessed by "ex parte…comitis: Garinus filius vicecomitis Senonensis"[388].
     "m ADELAIDE de Nevers, daughter of GUILLAUME [IV] Comte de Nevers & his wife Ida von Sponheim [Carinthia]. A charter dated 1161 records the settlement between the abbey of Saint-Julien d'Auxerre and "comes Joviniacensis, Rainardus", witnessed by "comitissa Joviniaci, Aalaidis…filia…comitis Nivernensis"[389]. "Adelaidis comitissa Joviniaci" confirmed the donation of property to the abbey of Dilo by "dominus meus Rainardus comes maritus meus" by charter dated 1172[390]."
Med Lands cites:
[388] Yonne, Tome II, 150, p. 165.
[389] Yonne, Tome II, 121, p. 130.
[390] Yonne, Tome II, 220, p. 236.10
EDV-26.

; NB: Genealogics says Adele's mother was a "Mathilde". Med Lands and Racines et Histoire (Nevers) say her mother was Guillaume's wife, Ida. I have chosen to follow Med Lands on this. GA Vaut.4,6,11,2

; Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VI 149.12

; Per Racines et Histoire (Nevers): “Adélaïde de Nevers (citée charte 1172 en faveur de l’Abbaye de Dilo) dame de Coulanges (-La-Vineuse, Yonne)
     ép.~1155/61 Rainard (alias Renard) IV, comte de Joigny (1152) ° ~1120 + ~1164/72 (ou 1177 ?) (fil prob. de Renard III de Joigny, seigneur de Châteaurenard, et de Comtesse de La FertéGaucher)”

Per Racines et Histoire (Courtenay): “Renaud III de Joigny ° ~1120 + après 1171
     ép. avant 1161 Adèle de Nevers ° ~1145 + après 1192 ”.5,13

; Per Med Lands:
     "ADELAIDE de Nevers . A charter dated 1161 records the settlement between the abbey of Saint-Julien d'Auxerre and "comes Joviniacensis, Rainardus", witnessed by "comitissa Joviniaci, Aalaidis…filia…comitis Nivernensis"[215]. "Adelaidis comitissa Joviniaci" confirmed the donation of property to the abbey of Dilo by "dominus meus Rainardus comes maritus meus" by charter dated 1172[216].
     "m RENARD [IV] Comte de Joigny, son of --- (-[1164/72])."
Med Lands cites:
[215] Yonne, Tome II, 121, p. 130.
[216] Yonne, Tome II, 220, p. 236.2
Adèle/Adélaïde de Nevers was living in 1161.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adèle de Nevers: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139465&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdnevers.htm#AdelaideNeversMRenaudJoigny. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume de Nevers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198389&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdnevers.htm#GuillaumeIIIdied1161B
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’Auxerre, Nevers & Tonnerre, p. 9: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Auxerre-Nevers-Tonnerre.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198390&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adele de Nevers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139465&tree=LEO
  8. [S4743] Geneagraphie - Families all over the world (Website), online <http://geneagraphie.com/>, Ide de Carinthie: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I377964&tree=1. Hereinafter cited as Geneagraphie.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Renard: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139464&tree=LEO
  10. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamsensjoi.htm#RenaudJoignydied11641172
  11. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 24 Sep 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adele de Nevers: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139465&tree=LEO
  13. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Courtenay, p. 21: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Courtenay.pdf
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106064&tree=LEO

Ranulf fitz Walter of Greystoke, Cumberland1

M, #60981, d. circa 1190
Last Edited15 Aug 2019
     Ranulf fitz Walter of Greystoke, Cumberland died circa 1190.1
      ; per Ravilious: William fitz Ranulf
Death: 1209[1],[2],[3]
Father: Ranulf fitz Walter (-ca1190)
Mother: [Probable] Amabel

of Greystoke, Cumberland

' In 1207 William son of Ranulf made an acknowledgment that he
would render yearly to Gilbert de Gant one sor goshawk healthy
and sound, to be delivered yearly...... in respect of one
ploughland which he held of Gilbert at Ellerton, near
Pocklington ('Yorkshire Fines,' 110). He died early in
1209, holding in Cumberland two vills in demesne and two in
service for a cornage rent of 4l. per annum. ' [Notes and Queries, p. 82]

The text of the fine, in Pedes Finium Ebor.:
' Ibid. a die Paschae n unum mensem (April 22-May 20, 1207),
Inter Gilbertum de Grant pet., per Johannem Clericum positum
loco suo etc., et Willelmum filium Rannulphi deforciantem,
de annuo servitio duorum osturcorum, quod exegit ab eo de
una car. terrae cum pert. in Elreton, quod servitium ei non
cognovit. Et unde recognitio magnae assisae summonita fuit
etc., scil. quod predictus Gilbertus remisit etc. de se et
her. suis eidem Willelmo et her. suis totum clamium etc. in
uno predictorum osturcorum. Et pro hac quieta clamantia
idem Willelmus.... ' [Pedes Finium Ebor. pp. 110-1[4]]


3rd husband of Hawise de Stuteville[5] (2nd, per R. Borthwick)[6]

Spouse: Hawise de Stuteville[1]
Death: 1228[6],[2]
Father: Robert de Stuteville, of Cottingham, co. Yorks. (-1183)
Mother: Hawise (->1183)

Children: Thomas (>1202-<1247)

Ravilious cites:
1. Alan B. Wilson, "Lords of Greystoke," Apr 10, 1999, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, sources cited incl. CP, Early Yorkshire Families (Clay) and English Baronies (Sanders).
2. Rosie Bevan, "Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville, wife of Sir Richard Foliot," August 31, 2002, paper copy: library of John P. Ravilious, citations from Rosie Bevan : rbevan@paradise.net.nz, cites Clay, Early Yorkshire Charters, Sanders, English Baronies; K. Keats-Rohan, Domesday Descendants.
3. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
4. "Pedes Finium Ebor. Regnante Johanne A.D. MCXCIX. - A.D. MCCXIV.," The Surtees Society, Durham: Andrews & Co., 1897, Surtees series Vol. XCIV.
5. Rosie Bevan, "Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville," August 8, 2002, paper copy: library of John P. Ravilious, citations from Rosie Bevan : rbevan@paradise.net.nz, cites Clay, Early Yorkshire Charters; Sanders, English Baronies; K.Keats-Rohan, Domesday Descendants.
6. Richard Borthwick, "Researching de Brus and Descendants," Aug 21, 1999, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, also from Rosie Bevan (Re: Roger, Earl of Warwick, Feb 12, 2001).
7. William Brown, B.A., ed., "Yorkshire Inquisitions," The Yorkshire Archaeological Society, Record Series), various dates:, Vol. I (Record series vol. XII) - 1892, Vol. II(Record series vol. XXIII) - 1898, Vol. III (Record series vol. XXXI) - 1902, Vol. IV (Record series vol. XXXVII) - 1906.
8. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 - [microprint, 1982 (Alan Sutton) ], The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
9. "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516," http://www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/
10. Sir William Dugdale, "Monasticon Anglicanum," London: Harding & Lepard; and Longman Rees... Green, 1830, Vol. VI, Pt. 1 - Austin Abbey of Wigmore, in Herefordshire, pp. 348-356 [Fundationis et Fundatorum Historia], Vol. VI, Pt. 2 - Priory of Bullington, co. Lincs., pp. 951-954, URL
http://monasticmatrix.usc.edu/bibliographia/index.php?function=detail&id=2659
11. William Dugdale, Norroy King of Arms, "The Baronage of England," Tho. Newcomb [reprint Georg Verlag, New York], London, 1675 [reprint New York, 1977].
12. "Calendar of the Patent Rolls," preserved in the Public Record Office, Edward I. A.D. 1272-1281, London: for the Public Record Office.
13. Douglas Richardson, "C.P. Addition: Parentage of Isabel de Roos, wife of Roger de Merlay and Adam de Everingham," 18 November 2005, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites James Wilson, "Some Extinct Cumberland Families, IV: The Greystokes" The Ancestor, 6 (1903):121-134.
14. "Collectanea Topographica et Genealogica," London: John Bowyer Nichols and Son, 1838, Vol. V.
15. K. J. Allison, ed., "A History of the County of York, East Riding," Oxford: published for the Institute of Historical Research, Oxford Univ. Press, 1969, Vol. III.
16. Rev. Charles Moor, D.D., F.S.A., "Knights of Edward I," Pubs. of the Harleian Society, 1929-1930, 3 Vols. (Vols. 80-83 in series).
17. John de Kirkby, "The survey of the county of York taken by John de Kirkby, commonly called Kirkby's Inquest," also inquisitions of knights' fees, the Nomina villarum for Yorkshire, and an appendix of illustrative documents, Durham: Pub. for the Society by Andrews and Co., 1867.
18. "Access to Archives," http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk/
19. A. Gooder, Ph.D., "The Parliamentary Representation of the County of York, 1258-1832, Vol. I," The Yorkshire Archaeological Society, Record Series, Vol. XCI (1935), Wakefield: Printed for the Society, 1935.
20. G. H. R. Kent, ed., "A History of the County of York, East Riding," Oxford: published for the Institute of Historical Research, Oxford Univ. Press, 2002, Vol. VII, online available, courtesy British History Online, URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=16147
21. George Poulson, Esq., "The History and Antiquities of the Seigniory of Holderness," Hull: Thomas Topping, and W. Pickering, 1840 (Vol I) 1841 (Vol II), pp. 197-198, pedigree of Hilton of Swine.
22. Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Baltimore: Gen Pub Co., 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S2092] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 30 Aug 2006: "Re: CP Addition: Elizabeth, wife of Roger de Lascelles, Lord Lascelles"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 30 Aug 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 30 Aug 2006."

Mathilde (?)1

F, #60982
Last Edited26 Sep 2020
     Mathilde (?) married Guillaume III de Nevers Comte de Nevers, d'Auxerre et de Tonnerre, son of Guillaume II/III de Nevers Comte de Nevers and Adelaide (?).1,2

     ; NB: Genealogics says Adele's mother was a "Mathilde". Med Lands and Racines et Histoire (Nevers) say her mother was Guillaume's wife, Ida. I have chosen to follow Med Lands on this. GA Vaut.3,1,4,5

; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 14.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198390&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume de Nevers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198389&tree=LEO
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdnevers.htm#GuillaumeIIIdied1161B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 24 Sep 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdnevers.htm#AdelaideNeversMRenaudJoigny

Beatrix (?) de Sancerre1

F, #60983, d. after September 1225
FatherGuillaume I de Champagne Cte de Sancerre1,2 d. bt 1217 - 1219
MotherDenise de Deols Dame de Deols et Chateauroux2,3 b. c 1173, d. 1207
Last Edited20 Oct 2020
     Beatrix (?) de Sancerre married Guillaume I (?) Cte de Joigny, son of Renaud II/IV de Joigny Comte de Joigny and Adèle/Adélaïde de Nevers, in 1212
; his 2nd wife.1
Beatrix (?) de Sancerre died after September 1225.1
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 14.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Béatrix de Sancerre: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198391&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164586&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Denise de Déols: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164587&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00271869&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Blanche de Joigny: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046873&tree=LEO
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Nesle-Falvy.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Guillaume II (?) Comte de Joigny1

M, #60984, d. before April 1248
FatherGuillaume I (?) Cte de Joigny1,3 d. 1221
MotherBeatrix (?) de Sancerre1,2 d. a Sep 1225
Last Edited14 Jan 2004
     Guillaume II (?) Comte de Joigny died before April 1248.1
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 14.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00271869&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Béatrix de Sancerre: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198391&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106064&tree=LEO

Blanche de Joigny1

F, #60985
FatherGuillaume I (?) Cte de Joigny1,2 d. 1221
MotherBeatrix (?) de Sancerre1,3 d. a Sep 1225
Last Edited8 Nov 2020
     Blanche de Joigny married Guillaume I de Chauvigny Seigneur de Châteauroux, son of Andre I de Chauvigny Seigneur de Châtellerault and Denise de Deols Dame de Deols et Chateauroux, in 1222
; his 2nd wife; her 1st husband.4 Blanche de Joigny married Guillaume II (?) Sire de Vierzon, son of Hervé II (?) seigneur de Vierzon and Marie de Dampierre, between 1238 and 1239.5

     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIII 158.1

Family 2

Guillaume II (?) Sire de Vierzon d. bt 1250 - 1252
Child

Guillaume I de Chauvigny Seigneur de Châteauroux1

M, #60986, b. circa 1192, d. 1234
MotherDenise de Deols Dame de Deols et Chateauroux2,1 b. c 1173, d. 1207
Last Edited10 Dec 2012
     Guillaume I de Chauvigny Seigneur de Châteauroux was born circa 1192.1 He married Mahaut d'Issoudun Dame d'Issoudun in 1213.3,1
Guillaume I de Chauvigny Seigneur de Châteauroux married Blanche de Joigny, daughter of Guillaume I (?) Cte de Joigny and Beatrix (?) de Sancerre, in 1222
; his 2nd wife; her 1st husband.1
Guillaume I de Chauvigny Seigneur de Châteauroux died in 1234.1
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIII 70.1

; He was probably about twenty years old when, in 1213, he married Mahaut d'Issoudun, an heiress of considerable wealth. However, when no children were born from their marriage, he murdered her on 14 March 1217. About five years later he married Blanche de Joigny, a widow, and by her fathered his only son.1

Family 1

Mahaut d'Issoudun Dame d'Issoudun d. 14 Mar 1217

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I de Chauvigny: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197150&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Denise de Deols: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164587&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mahaut d'Issoudun: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197153&tree=LEO
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.7. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II de Chauvigny: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197151&tree=LEO

Mahaut d'Issoudun Dame d'Issoudun1

F, #60987, d. 14 March 1217
Last Edited14 Jan 2004
     Mahaut d'Issoudun Dame d'Issoudun married Guillaume I de Chauvigny Seigneur de Châteauroux, son of Andre I de Chauvigny Seigneur de Châtellerault and Denise de Deols Dame de Deols et Chateauroux, in 1213.1,2

Mahaut d'Issoudun Dame d'Issoudun died on 14 March 1217; murdered by her husband.1
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIII 70.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mahaut d'Issoudun: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197153&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I de Chauvigny: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197150&tree=LEO

Guillaume II (?) Sire de Vierzon1

M, #60988, d. between 1250 and 1252
FatherHervé II (?) seigneur de Vierzon2,1 d. 5 Nov 1216
MotherMarie de Dampierre3,1 b. a 1197, d. 1236
Last Edited29 Oct 2020
     Guillaume II (?) Sire de Vierzon married Blanche de Joigny, daughter of Guillaume I (?) Cte de Joigny and Beatrix (?) de Sancerre, between 1238 and 1239.1

Guillaume II (?) Sire de Vierzon died between 1250 and 1252.1
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIII 158.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046872&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hervé III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00358237&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marie de Dampierre-sur-l'Aube: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140317&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hervé IV: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046869&tree=LEO

Andre I de Chauvigny Seigneur de Châtellerault1

M, #60989, d. circa 1202
FatherPierre-Helie de Chauvigny2
MotherHaois (?) de Châtellerault2
Last Edited22 Apr 2007
     Andre I de Chauvigny Seigneur de Châtellerault married Denise de Deols Dame de Deols et Chateauroux, daughter of Raoul VII de Deols Prince de Déols, Sire de Châteauroux and Agnes de Charenton Dame de Meillent, in 1189.1,3

Andre I de Chauvigny Seigneur de Châtellerault died circa 1202.1
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIII 70.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Andre I de Chauvigny: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197154&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2048] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 23 Mar 2006: "Queen's Kinsfolk: Queen Eleanor of Aquitaine's kinsfolk"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Mar2006. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 23 Mar2006."
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Denise de Deols: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164587&tree=LEO

Adelheid van Oudenaarde1,2

F, #60990, b. circa 1185
FatherArnold III (?) van Oudenaarde3,2,1
MotherMathilda (?)4,1
Last Edited19 Jul 2020
     Adelheid van Oudenaarde was born circa 1185.5 She married Engelbert IV d'Enghien chevalier, seigneur d’Enghien, son of Englebert III d'Enghien chevalier, seigneur d’Enghien, and Elizabeth van de Aa, before 1193
;
His 1st (?) wife. (per Med Lands he m. his next wife bef 2 Dec 1193).6,7,2,8
      ; Per Racines et Histoire (Enghien): “Englebert III d’Enghien ° ~1160 + 23/02/1244 (teste 03/1225) chevalier, seigneur d’Enghien (reconstruit la forteresse d’Enghien début XIII° ; nombreux dons à l’Abbaye de Cambron ; allié du duc de Louvain, il doit finalement se soumettre au comte de Hainaut ; témoin d’un acte du comte de Hainaut 03-04/1189)
     ép. 1) ~1200 Ide (Adelaïde, Adelheide) d’Audenaerde ° ~1185 (fille d’Arnould III ou de Gilbert II et de Richilde van Peteghem ; demi-soeur d’Alix de Zotteghem, épouse de Sohier d’Enghien)
     ép. 2) Ide d’Avesnes ° ~1180 + 23/09 ou 19/10/1217 (fille de Jacques et d’Améline de Guise (ou d’Henri, Châtelain de Mons-en-Havré ?)”.2 Adelheid van Oudenaarde was also known as Ide/Adelaïde/Adelheide d’Audenaerde.2

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 78.1

Family

Engelbert IV d'Enghien chevalier, seigneur d’Enghien b. 1160, d. bt 22 Feb 1244 - 1246

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelheid van Oudenaarde: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106871&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison d’ Enghien, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Enghien.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Arnold III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00163345&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilda: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00163346&tree=LEO
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Enghien.pdf, p. 3.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelheid van Oudenaarde: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106871&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Englebert IV: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106869&tree=LEO
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