Juliana (?)1
F, #94831
Last Edited | 16 Jul 2020 |
Juliana (?) married Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland, son of Roland Galloway Lord of Galloway and Elena de Morville of Lauder, before 30 March 1222
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His 4th wife.1 Juliana (?) and Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland were divorced between 1225 and 1229; Per Med Lands: "annulled for consanguinity/affinity [1225/29].1
; Per Med Lands:
"ALAN of Galloway, son of ROLAND Lord of Galloway & his wife Helen de Moreville (-[2] Feb 1234, bur Dundraynan[1170]). He succeeded his father in 1200 as Lord of Galloway. "Alanus filius Rollandi de Galwythia" donated "partem terre in territorio de Gillebeccokestun…de Widhope" to Melrose abbey, for the souls of "Ricardi de Morevill avi mei et Willemi avunculi mei, Rollandi patris mei et…mea et Helene matris mee", by undated charter[1171]. "Alanus filius Rolandi dominus Galwath[ie] et Scocie constabularius" donated annual revenue to St Bees by undated charter, witnessed by "Alano filio Ketelli, Alano de Camerton, Gilberto filio Gospatrici…"[1172]. "Thomas de Colevilla cognomento Scot" donated "quartam partam de Almelidum…Keresban" to Melrose abbey by undated charter witnessed by "…Alano filio Rolandi de Galewai, Fergus filio Uctredi, Edgaro filio Douenad, Dunkano filio Gilbti comite de Carric…"[1173]. "Alanus fili Rolandi de Galweia constabularius dni regis Scottorum" donated property "in Ulkelyston" to Kelso monastery, for the souls of "patris mei Rolandi, avi mei Huhtredi", by charter dated to [1206][1174]. The Annals of Dunstable record that “dominus Galwinæ” died in 1235[1175]. The Liber Pluscardensis records the death in [1234] of "Alanus de Galway filius Rotholandi de Galway…qui…fuit constabilarius Scociæ" and his burial "apud Dundranan"[1176]. The Chronicle of Lanercost records the death "circa purificacionem beatæ Virginis" [2 Feb] in 1233 of "Alanus dominus Galwydiæ"[1177]. On his death Galway was divided between his daughters, but the people of Galway invited Alexander II King of Scotland to become their sole lord but he refused. The king finally defeated the insurgents after Jul 1235[1178].
"m firstly (before [19 Dec 1200/1206]) --- de Lacy, daughter of ROGER de Lacy Constable of Chester & his wife Matilda de Clare (-[1201/06]). Keith Stringer says that "one of the daughters of Roger de Lacy was evidently Alan’s first wife" and that "the manor of Kippax" was her dowry, quoting a charter, dated to [19 Dec 1200/1206], under which "Alanus filius Rollandi, dominus Galuuaith Scotie constabularius…et heredibus meis" gave quitclaim to "Rogero de Lascy Cestrie constabularius et heredibus suis" for "advocationem ecclesie de Kipeis"[1179]. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the following document: the Curia Regis rolls record in 1214 “John [de Lacy] de warrantia carte de terra de Kippes...should warrant the charters of his father Roger which Alan [de Galloway]...has concerning the maritagium of his sister”[1180].
"[m [secondly] --- [of the Isles, daughter of REGINALD Lord of the Isles & his wife Fonie ---] (-before 1209). Balfour Paul says that Alan Lord of Galloway married first "a lady unknown, said to be a daughter of Reginald Lord of the Isles by whom he had two daughters"[1181]. He cites Chalmers’s Caledonia, but that says only that “the name of the first [wife] is unknown” without providing any indication of her family origin[1182]. Balfour Paul repeats his suggestion under the Lords of the Isles where he notes a daughter of Reginald Lord of the Isles "said to have married Alan of Galloway", without citing any source[1183]. There is no indication of the basis for Balfour Paul’s statements and no primary source which confirms this person’s parentage and marriage has been identified. Her existence should presumably be treated with caution until some such source emerges. If she did marry Alan, she was not the mother of his daughter Ellen shown below. She was either married before his marriage to “--- de Lacy” or before he married Margaret of Huntingdon: she is shown here, for presentational purposes only, as Alan’s possible second wife.]
"m [thirdly] (Dundee 1209) MARGARET of Huntingdon, daughter of DAVID of Scotland Earl of Huntingdon & his wife Matilda of Chester ([1194]-[after 6 Jan 1233]). The Chronicle of Melrose records the marriage in 1209 of "Alan FitzRoland" and "the daughter of earl David, the brother of the king of Scotland"[1184]. The Annales Londonienses name "Margaretam, Isabellam, Matildam, et Aldam" as the four daughters of "comiti David", recording the marriage of "la primere fille Davi" and "Aleyn de Gavei"[1185]. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the marriage in 1208 "apud Dunde" of "Alanus magnus de Galweyia, filius Rotholandi" and "Margaretam filiam David comitis de Huntingtona"[1186]. The primary source which confirms her appearance in Jan 1233 has not been identified. The date is inconsistent with Alan’s subsequent marital history, unless his marriage to Margaret was dissolved.
"m [fourthly] (before 30 Mar 1222, annulled for consanguinity/affinity [1225/29]) JULIANA, daughter of ---. Her husband challenged the validity of this marriage on grounds of consanguinity/affinity. The family relationship between the couple has not been ascertained. Pope Honorius III mandated the archbishop of York and others that “Alan constable of Scotland was of such close kindred and affinity to his wife that they could not cohabit without mortal sin”, and to refer the case to the Papal legate, dated 30 Apr 1222[1187]. Pope Honorius III wrote to the archbishop of Canterbury 28 Feb 1225 requesting him “to proceed to a decision of a suit relating to the alleged marriage of Alan knight and Juliana heard before the abbot of Bruern”, recording details of the proceedings including the appearance of the wife before the Pope who doubted “whether the acts and attestations she brought with her were true”, and ordered “the archbishop, if the said knight will not be induced to treat the woman as his wife, to have the original acts produced and decide the matter”[1188]. Anderson suggests that "Juliana seems to have lost the case"[1189].
"m [fifthly] ([1228/29]) ROSE de Lacy, daughter of HUGH de Lacy & [his first wife Lesceline de Verdun] (-after 1237). According to Matthew Paris, the wife of Alan of Galloway "iam defunctus" was the (unnamed) daughter of "Hugonem de Lasey"[1190]. The Chronicle of Lanercost records in 1229 that "Alan the lord of Galloway…set out for Ireland and there married the daughter of Hugh de Lacy"[1191]. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records that "Alanus de Galweia profectus in Hiberniam" married "filiam Hugonis de Lacy" in 1228[1192]. If her parentage and marriage is correctly stated in the two sources quoted, the chronology suggests that this daughter must have been born from Hugh’s first marriage, assuming that she was legitimate. She is named "Rose de Lacy" by Keith Stringer, who cites a charter of St Bees which indicates that she was still alive in 1237[1193]."
Med Lands cites:
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His 4th wife.1 Juliana (?) and Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland were divorced between 1225 and 1229; Per Med Lands: "annulled for consanguinity/affinity [1225/29].1
; Per Med Lands:
"ALAN of Galloway, son of ROLAND Lord of Galloway & his wife Helen de Moreville (-[2] Feb 1234, bur Dundraynan[1170]). He succeeded his father in 1200 as Lord of Galloway. "Alanus filius Rollandi de Galwythia" donated "partem terre in territorio de Gillebeccokestun…de Widhope" to Melrose abbey, for the souls of "Ricardi de Morevill avi mei et Willemi avunculi mei, Rollandi patris mei et…mea et Helene matris mee", by undated charter[1171]. "Alanus filius Rolandi dominus Galwath[ie] et Scocie constabularius" donated annual revenue to St Bees by undated charter, witnessed by "Alano filio Ketelli, Alano de Camerton, Gilberto filio Gospatrici…"[1172]. "Thomas de Colevilla cognomento Scot" donated "quartam partam de Almelidum…Keresban" to Melrose abbey by undated charter witnessed by "…Alano filio Rolandi de Galewai, Fergus filio Uctredi, Edgaro filio Douenad, Dunkano filio Gilbti comite de Carric…"[1173]. "Alanus fili Rolandi de Galweia constabularius dni regis Scottorum" donated property "in Ulkelyston" to Kelso monastery, for the souls of "patris mei Rolandi, avi mei Huhtredi", by charter dated to [1206][1174]. The Annals of Dunstable record that “dominus Galwinæ” died in 1235[1175]. The Liber Pluscardensis records the death in [1234] of "Alanus de Galway filius Rotholandi de Galway…qui…fuit constabilarius Scociæ" and his burial "apud Dundranan"[1176]. The Chronicle of Lanercost records the death "circa purificacionem beatæ Virginis" [2 Feb] in 1233 of "Alanus dominus Galwydiæ"[1177]. On his death Galway was divided between his daughters, but the people of Galway invited Alexander II King of Scotland to become their sole lord but he refused. The king finally defeated the insurgents after Jul 1235[1178].
"m firstly (before [19 Dec 1200/1206]) --- de Lacy, daughter of ROGER de Lacy Constable of Chester & his wife Matilda de Clare (-[1201/06]). Keith Stringer says that "one of the daughters of Roger de Lacy was evidently Alan’s first wife" and that "the manor of Kippax" was her dowry, quoting a charter, dated to [19 Dec 1200/1206], under which "Alanus filius Rollandi, dominus Galuuaith Scotie constabularius…et heredibus meis" gave quitclaim to "Rogero de Lascy Cestrie constabularius et heredibus suis" for "advocationem ecclesie de Kipeis"[1179]. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the following document: the Curia Regis rolls record in 1214 “John [de Lacy] de warrantia carte de terra de Kippes...should warrant the charters of his father Roger which Alan [de Galloway]...has concerning the maritagium of his sister”[1180].
"[m [secondly] --- [of the Isles, daughter of REGINALD Lord of the Isles & his wife Fonie ---] (-before 1209). Balfour Paul says that Alan Lord of Galloway married first "a lady unknown, said to be a daughter of Reginald Lord of the Isles by whom he had two daughters"[1181]. He cites Chalmers’s Caledonia, but that says only that “the name of the first [wife] is unknown” without providing any indication of her family origin[1182]. Balfour Paul repeats his suggestion under the Lords of the Isles where he notes a daughter of Reginald Lord of the Isles "said to have married Alan of Galloway", without citing any source[1183]. There is no indication of the basis for Balfour Paul’s statements and no primary source which confirms this person’s parentage and marriage has been identified. Her existence should presumably be treated with caution until some such source emerges. If she did marry Alan, she was not the mother of his daughter Ellen shown below. She was either married before his marriage to “--- de Lacy” or before he married Margaret of Huntingdon: she is shown here, for presentational purposes only, as Alan’s possible second wife.]
"m [thirdly] (Dundee 1209) MARGARET of Huntingdon, daughter of DAVID of Scotland Earl of Huntingdon & his wife Matilda of Chester ([1194]-[after 6 Jan 1233]). The Chronicle of Melrose records the marriage in 1209 of "Alan FitzRoland" and "the daughter of earl David, the brother of the king of Scotland"[1184]. The Annales Londonienses name "Margaretam, Isabellam, Matildam, et Aldam" as the four daughters of "comiti David", recording the marriage of "la primere fille Davi" and "Aleyn de Gavei"[1185]. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the marriage in 1208 "apud Dunde" of "Alanus magnus de Galweyia, filius Rotholandi" and "Margaretam filiam David comitis de Huntingtona"[1186]. The primary source which confirms her appearance in Jan 1233 has not been identified. The date is inconsistent with Alan’s subsequent marital history, unless his marriage to Margaret was dissolved.
"m [fourthly] (before 30 Mar 1222, annulled for consanguinity/affinity [1225/29]) JULIANA, daughter of ---. Her husband challenged the validity of this marriage on grounds of consanguinity/affinity. The family relationship between the couple has not been ascertained. Pope Honorius III mandated the archbishop of York and others that “Alan constable of Scotland was of such close kindred and affinity to his wife that they could not cohabit without mortal sin”, and to refer the case to the Papal legate, dated 30 Apr 1222[1187]. Pope Honorius III wrote to the archbishop of Canterbury 28 Feb 1225 requesting him “to proceed to a decision of a suit relating to the alleged marriage of Alan knight and Juliana heard before the abbot of Bruern”, recording details of the proceedings including the appearance of the wife before the Pope who doubted “whether the acts and attestations she brought with her were true”, and ordered “the archbishop, if the said knight will not be induced to treat the woman as his wife, to have the original acts produced and decide the matter”[1188]. Anderson suggests that "Juliana seems to have lost the case"[1189].
"m [fifthly] ([1228/29]) ROSE de Lacy, daughter of HUGH de Lacy & [his first wife Lesceline de Verdun] (-after 1237). According to Matthew Paris, the wife of Alan of Galloway "iam defunctus" was the (unnamed) daughter of "Hugonem de Lasey"[1190]. The Chronicle of Lanercost records in 1229 that "Alan the lord of Galloway…set out for Ireland and there married the daughter of Hugh de Lacy"[1191]. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records that "Alanus de Galweia profectus in Hiberniam" married "filiam Hugonis de Lacy" in 1228[1192]. If her parentage and marriage is correctly stated in the two sources quoted, the chronology suggests that this daughter must have been born from Hugh’s first marriage, assuming that she was legitimate. She is named "Rose de Lacy" by Keith Stringer, who cites a charter of St Bees which indicates that she was still alive in 1237[1193]."
Med Lands cites:
[1170] Chronicle of Melrose, 1234, p. 60.
[1171] Melrose Liber, Tome I, 83, p. 72.
[1172] St Bees, 42, p. 71.
[1173] Melrose Liber, Tome I, 192, p. 172.
[1174] Kelso, Tome I, 245, p. 201.
[1175] Annales de Dunstaplia, p. 143.
[1176] Liber Pluscardensis, Vol. I, Liber VII, CX, p. 73.
[1177] Lanercost Chronicle, 1233, p. 42.
[1178] Chronicle of Melrose, 1234 and 1235, pp. 60-1.
[1179] Stringer, K. J. ‘Periphery and Core in Thirteenth Century Scotland: Alan son of Roland, Lord of Galloway and Constable of Scotland’, Grant, A. & Stringer, K. J. (eds.) (1998) Medieval Scotland, Crown, Lordship and Community (Edinburgh U.P.), p. 104.
[1180] Stringer, K. J. ‘A new wife for Alan of Galloway’, Transactions of the Dumfriesshire and Galloway Natural History and Antiquarian Society, 3rd Series, Vol. XLIX (Dumfries, 1972), p. 51, citing Curia Regis Rolls, Vol. VII (1935). I am grateful to David M. Lawrence for sending a copy of this article.
[1181] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. IV, Galloway, p. 141.
[1182] Chalmers, G. (1890) Caledonia, Vol. V (Paisley), p. 258.
[1183] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. V, Macdonald, Lord of the Isles, p. 32.
[1184] Chronicle of Melrose, 1209, p. 33.
[1185] Annales Londonienses, p. 126.
[1186] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. I, Lib. VIII, Cap. LXVIII, p. 523.
[1187] Bliss, W. H. (1893) Calendar of entries in the Papal registers relating to Great Britain and Ireland (London), Vol. I, p. 87.
[1188] Bliss (1893), Vol. I, p. 101.
[1189] Anderson Early Sources, Vol. II, p. 468.
[1190] Matthew Paris, Vol. III, 1236, p. 364.
[1191] Chronicle of Lanercost, p. 40, quoted in Anderson Early Sources, Vol. II, p. 467.
[1192] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. IX, Cap. XLVII, p. 58.
[1193] Stringer ‘Periphery and Core: Alan of Galloway’, p. 96, citing Register of St Bees, 5, p. x.2
[1171] Melrose Liber, Tome I, 83, p. 72.
[1172] St Bees, 42, p. 71.
[1173] Melrose Liber, Tome I, 192, p. 172.
[1174] Kelso, Tome I, 245, p. 201.
[1175] Annales de Dunstaplia, p. 143.
[1176] Liber Pluscardensis, Vol. I, Liber VII, CX, p. 73.
[1177] Lanercost Chronicle, 1233, p. 42.
[1178] Chronicle of Melrose, 1234 and 1235, pp. 60-1.
[1179] Stringer, K. J. ‘Periphery and Core in Thirteenth Century Scotland: Alan son of Roland, Lord of Galloway and Constable of Scotland’, Grant, A. & Stringer, K. J. (eds.) (1998) Medieval Scotland, Crown, Lordship and Community (Edinburgh U.P.), p. 104.
[1180] Stringer, K. J. ‘A new wife for Alan of Galloway’, Transactions of the Dumfriesshire and Galloway Natural History and Antiquarian Society, 3rd Series, Vol. XLIX (Dumfries, 1972), p. 51, citing Curia Regis Rolls, Vol. VII (1935). I am grateful to David M. Lawrence for sending a copy of this article.
[1181] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. IV, Galloway, p. 141.
[1182] Chalmers, G. (1890) Caledonia, Vol. V (Paisley), p. 258.
[1183] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. V, Macdonald, Lord of the Isles, p. 32.
[1184] Chronicle of Melrose, 1209, p. 33.
[1185] Annales Londonienses, p. 126.
[1186] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. I, Lib. VIII, Cap. LXVIII, p. 523.
[1187] Bliss, W. H. (1893) Calendar of entries in the Papal registers relating to Great Britain and Ireland (London), Vol. I, p. 87.
[1188] Bliss (1893), Vol. I, p. 101.
[1189] Anderson Early Sources, Vol. II, p. 468.
[1190] Matthew Paris, Vol. III, 1236, p. 364.
[1191] Chronicle of Lanercost, p. 40, quoted in Anderson Early Sources, Vol. II, p. 467.
[1192] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. IX, Cap. XLVII, p. 58.
[1193] Stringer ‘Periphery and Core: Alan of Galloway’, p. 96, citing Register of St Bees, 5, p. x.2
Family | Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland b. c 1175, d. 2 Feb 1324 |
Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#AlanGallowaydied12331234. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#ThomasGallowayMdauRagnvaldMan
Thomas fitz Alan of Galloway1
M, #94832
Father | Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland1 b. c 1175, d. 2 Feb 1324 |
Last Edited | 16 Jul 2020 |
Thomas fitz Alan of Galloway married NN (?) of Man, daughter of Ragnald I Godredsson (?) King of Man, in 1226.2
; Per Med Lands:
"THOMAS . Matthew Paris records Thomas as the illegitimate son of Alan of Galloway[1216]. The Chronicle of Melrose records that, on the death of his father, he led the rebellion of the people of Galloway and fled to Ireland after they were defeated by Alexander II King of Scotland[1217].
"[1218]m (1226[1219]) --- of Man, daughter of RAGNVALD King of Man & his wife ---. The Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum records that King Ragnvald married his daughter to Alan of Galloway’s son[1220]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"daughter . The Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum records that King Ragnvald married his daughter to Alan of Galloway’s son[1308]. Her marriage date suggests that she was much younger than her sister who married the Welsh princes. Maybe they were born from different marriages.
"m (1226[1309]) THOMAS of Galloway, illegitimate son of ALAN Lord of Galloway & his mistress ---."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"THOMAS . Matthew Paris records Thomas as the illegitimate son of Alan of Galloway[1216]. The Chronicle of Melrose records that, on the death of his father, he led the rebellion of the people of Galloway and fled to Ireland after they were defeated by Alexander II King of Scotland[1217].
"[1218]m (1226[1219]) --- of Man, daughter of RAGNVALD King of Man & his wife ---. The Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum records that King Ragnvald married his daughter to Alan of Galloway’s son[1220]."
Med Lands cites:
[1216] Matthew Paris, Vol. III, 1236, p. 364.
[1217] Chronicle of Melrose, 1235, p. 62.
[1218] Chronicle of Melrose, 1234, p. 60.
[1219] Stringer, K. J. 'Periphery and Core in Thirteenth-Century Scotland: Alan son of Roland, Lord of Galloway and Constable of Scotland', Grant, A. and Stringer, K. J. (eds.) (1998) Medieval Scotland: Crown, Lordship and Community (Edinburgh University Press), p. 96.
[1220] Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum, p. 174.1
[1217] Chronicle of Melrose, 1235, p. 62.
[1218] Chronicle of Melrose, 1234, p. 60.
[1219] Stringer, K. J. 'Periphery and Core in Thirteenth-Century Scotland: Alan son of Roland, Lord of Galloway and Constable of Scotland', Grant, A. and Stringer, K. J. (eds.) (1998) Medieval Scotland: Crown, Lordship and Community (Edinburgh University Press), p. 96.
[1220] Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum, p. 174.1
; Per Med Lands:
"daughter . The Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum records that King Ragnvald married his daughter to Alan of Galloway’s son[1308]. Her marriage date suggests that she was much younger than her sister who married the Welsh princes. Maybe they were born from different marriages.
"m (1226[1309]) THOMAS of Galloway, illegitimate son of ALAN Lord of Galloway & his mistress ---."
Med Lands cites:
[1308] Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum, p. 174.
[1309] Stringer, K. J. 'Periphery and Core in Thirteenth-Century Scotland: Alan son of Roland, Lord of Galloway and Constable of Scotland', Grant, A. and Stringer, K. J. (eds.) (1998) Medieval Scotland: Crown, Lordship and Community (Edinburgh University Press), p. 96.2
[1309] Stringer, K. J. 'Periphery and Core in Thirteenth-Century Scotland: Alan son of Roland, Lord of Galloway and Constable of Scotland', Grant, A. and Stringer, K. J. (eds.) (1998) Medieval Scotland: Crown, Lordship and Community (Edinburgh University Press), p. 96.2
Family | NN (?) of Man |
Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#ThomasGallowayMdauRagnvaldMan. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#dauRagnallManMThomasGalloway
NN (?) of Man1
F, #94833
Father | Ragnald I Godredsson (?) King of Man1 d. 1229 |
Last Edited | 16 Jul 2020 |
NN (?) of Man married Thomas fitz Alan of Galloway, son of Alan fitz Roland Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland, in 1226.1
; Per Med Lands:
"THOMAS . Matthew Paris records Thomas as the illegitimate son of Alan of Galloway[1216]. The Chronicle of Melrose records that, on the death of his father, he led the rebellion of the people of Galloway and fled to Ireland after they were defeated by Alexander II King of Scotland[1217].
"[1218]m (1226[1219]) --- of Man, daughter of RAGNVALD King of Man & his wife ---. The Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum records that King Ragnvald married his daughter to Alan of Galloway’s son[1220]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"daughter . The Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum records that King Ragnvald married his daughter to Alan of Galloway’s son[1308]. Her marriage date suggests that she was much younger than her sister who married the Welsh princes. Maybe they were born from different marriages.
"m (1226[1309]) THOMAS of Galloway, illegitimate son of ALAN Lord of Galloway & his mistress ---."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"THOMAS . Matthew Paris records Thomas as the illegitimate son of Alan of Galloway[1216]. The Chronicle of Melrose records that, on the death of his father, he led the rebellion of the people of Galloway and fled to Ireland after they were defeated by Alexander II King of Scotland[1217].
"[1218]m (1226[1219]) --- of Man, daughter of RAGNVALD King of Man & his wife ---. The Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum records that King Ragnvald married his daughter to Alan of Galloway’s son[1220]."
Med Lands cites:
[1216] Matthew Paris, Vol. III, 1236, p. 364.
[1217] Chronicle of Melrose, 1235, p. 62.
[1218] Chronicle of Melrose, 1234, p. 60.
[1219] Stringer, K. J. 'Periphery and Core in Thirteenth-Century Scotland: Alan son of Roland, Lord of Galloway and Constable of Scotland', Grant, A. and Stringer, K. J. (eds.) (1998) Medieval Scotland: Crown, Lordship and Community (Edinburgh University Press), p. 96.
[1220] Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum, p. 174.2
[1217] Chronicle of Melrose, 1235, p. 62.
[1218] Chronicle of Melrose, 1234, p. 60.
[1219] Stringer, K. J. 'Periphery and Core in Thirteenth-Century Scotland: Alan son of Roland, Lord of Galloway and Constable of Scotland', Grant, A. and Stringer, K. J. (eds.) (1998) Medieval Scotland: Crown, Lordship and Community (Edinburgh University Press), p. 96.
[1220] Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum, p. 174.2
; Per Med Lands:
"daughter . The Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum records that King Ragnvald married his daughter to Alan of Galloway’s son[1308]. Her marriage date suggests that she was much younger than her sister who married the Welsh princes. Maybe they were born from different marriages.
"m (1226[1309]) THOMAS of Galloway, illegitimate son of ALAN Lord of Galloway & his mistress ---."
Med Lands cites:
[1308] Chronicon Manniæ et Insularum, p. 174.
[1309] Stringer, K. J. 'Periphery and Core in Thirteenth-Century Scotland: Alan son of Roland, Lord of Galloway and Constable of Scotland', Grant, A. and Stringer, K. J. (eds.) (1998) Medieval Scotland: Crown, Lordship and Community (Edinburgh University Press), p. 96.1
[1309] Stringer, K. J. 'Periphery and Core in Thirteenth-Century Scotland: Alan son of Roland, Lord of Galloway and Constable of Scotland', Grant, A. and Stringer, K. J. (eds.) (1998) Medieval Scotland: Crown, Lordship and Community (Edinburgh University Press), p. 96.1
Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#dauRagnallManMThomasGalloway. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#ThomasGallowayMdauRagnvaldMan
Rangarda (?) de Toulouse1
F, #94834
Father | Guillaume III Taillefer (?) Comte de Toulouse, d’Albi et du Quercy1 b. bt 970 - 975, d. Sep 1037 |
Mother | Emma (?) de Provence, Comtesse de Provence et comtesse de Toulouse1 b. bt 975 - 980, d. a 1063 |
Last Edited | 18 Jul 2020 |
; NB: Genealogics says this dau. Rangarda m. Pierre Raymond de Carcassone, but Med Lands does not list a dau. of this name by Guillaume, and says that Pierre m. Raingarde le La Marche, dau. of Bernard I Comte de La March. I have shown the dau. for Guillaume, but have otherwise followed Med Lands. GA Vaut.1,2,3
Reference: Genealogics cites: Adelaide d'Anjou. Sa famille, ses marriages, sa descendance, Le Moyen Age, 1997., Stasser, Thierry.1
Reference: Genealogics cites: Adelaide d'Anjou. Sa famille, ses marriages, sa descendance, Le Moyen Age, 1997., Stasser, Thierry.1
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rangarda de Toulouse: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00521880&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ANGOULEME.htm#RangardelaMarchedied1071. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 18 July 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
Ansiauol d'Enghien1
M, #94835
Reference | EDV29 |
Last Edited | 5 Nov 2020 |
; Per Med Lands:
"The town of Enghien (Edinghem in Flemish) is located about 25 kilometres south-west of Brussels, and about 40 kilometres north-west of Charleroi, in the present-day Belgian province of Hainaut. The medieval seigneurial family, fiefs of the Comtes de Hainaut, emerged from obscure beginnings in the late 11th/early 12th century, the surviving records only showing use of the seigneurial title from the late 13th century. Matthieu’s late 19th century history of Enghien summarises the local topography and the ancient fortifications, as well as some early recorded mentions of the place[1157], but his descriptions of the early generations of the family are unreliable. Delporte dismisses the existence of Anselme d’Enghien, supposed participant in the First Crusade, as fantasy based on fabricated sources[1158]."
Med Lands cites:
NB: There is uncertainty concerning the early generations of the d'Enghien family. I have found the following theories so far:
I. Wikipédia (Fr.) shows the first five generations as :
See attached descendancy and related citations and sources for the Enghien family from Wikipédia (Fr.)
II. Genealogics does not identify Ansiaulm, but shows the remaining generations to match Wikipédia (Fr.):
III. Med Lands does not identify Ansiaul, and shows other major differences from Wikipédia (Fr.) and Genealogics. Med Lands starts by identifying two separate individuals, without a stated relationship:
Then Med Lands identifies "Two brothers. Their parents have not been identified, but the names of Hugues’s children Engelbert and Boniface suggest a close relationship with the two persons named above. The [1133] donation, cited below, of land in the same location by the Chin and Enghien families suggests some family connection, maybe through their mother."
The rest of the family are identified as:
(Note: separately, Med Lands says, "The precise relationship between the Enghien and Trazegnies families has not been traced.".)
IV. Racines et Histoire (Maison d'Enghien) comes closer to Med Lands in its presentation. It mentions Ansiaul as the progenitor, but shows the link from him to Englebert I as very tenuous. (See attached image of the relevant pages from Racines and Histoire). Racines et HIstoire shows:
Racines et histoire then shows:
Conclusion:
Genealogics and Wikipédia (Fr.) have inserted one generation (Englebert II - I.3 and II.3) between Englebert I (I.2 and II.2) and Huwes/Hugues (I.4 and II.4), when compared to Med Lands and Racines et Histoire. It then seems that the Englebert III (m. Elisabeth de Trazegnies) shown by Genealogics/Wikipédia (Fr.) is the same person as the Engelbert II shown by Med Lands (m. Elizabeth [van de Aa]) and Racines et Histoire (m. Elizabeth de Trazegnies).
After considering the available information, I have left Ansiaul in the lineage, and have otherwise chosen to follow the descendancy as shown by Genealogics and Wikipédia (Fr.), though I have relied on Med Lands and Racines et Histoire for many of the other details. The extra Englebert, between Engleber I and Huwes/Hugues I, means there the various Engleberts are numbered differently in different sources. My numbering follows Genealogics and Wikipédia (Fr.) GA Vaut.1,2,3,4,5,6 EDV-29.
; Per Med Lands: "Delporte dismisses the existence of Anselme d’Enghien, supposed participant in the First Crusade, as fantasy based on fabricated sources[1158]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Wikipédia (Fr.): "Ansiaul qui prit part à la première croisade en 1096 [32]. Il était peut-être le père de [33] Englebert Ier, sire d'Enghien"
Wikipédia (Fr.) cites:
[32] Duvivier, Pagus hainoensis', p. 468.
[33] René Goffin, La Maison d'Enghien, parue dans Généalogies enghiennoises, volume 1, 1966, pp. 12 et suivantes.1
"The town of Enghien (Edinghem in Flemish) is located about 25 kilometres south-west of Brussels, and about 40 kilometres north-west of Charleroi, in the present-day Belgian province of Hainaut. The medieval seigneurial family, fiefs of the Comtes de Hainaut, emerged from obscure beginnings in the late 11th/early 12th century, the surviving records only showing use of the seigneurial title from the late 13th century. Matthieu’s late 19th century history of Enghien summarises the local topography and the ancient fortifications, as well as some early recorded mentions of the place[1157], but his descriptions of the early generations of the family are unreliable. Delporte dismisses the existence of Anselme d’Enghien, supposed participant in the First Crusade, as fantasy based on fabricated sources[1158]."
Med Lands cites:
[1157] Matthieu, E. (1876) Histoire de la ville d’Enghien (Mons), pp. 12-37.
[1158] Delporte, L. ‘Anselme d’Enghien (fin Xie s.) ; un personnage légendaire!’, Bulletin trimestriel du Cercle Archéologique d’Enghien, no. 24 (Sep 1999), pp. 470-5.
[1158] Delporte, L. ‘Anselme d’Enghien (fin Xie s.) ; un personnage légendaire!’, Bulletin trimestriel du Cercle Archéologique d’Enghien, no. 24 (Sep 1999), pp. 470-5.
NB: There is uncertainty concerning the early generations of the d'Enghien family. I have found the following theories so far:
I. Wikipédia (Fr.) shows the first five generations as :
I.1. Ansiaul qui prit part à la première croisade en 109632. Il était peut-être le père de33 :
I.2. Englebert Ier, sire d'Enghien33,34 (° 1065), « vir nobilis », compagnon de Baudouin IV de Hainaut, l'édificateur35. Il scella une charte à propos de l'église de Soignies en 109236. Il eut pour fils :
I.3. Englebert II d'Enghien (° 1090)
I.4. Hugues Ier d'Enghien (1120-1190), seigneur d'Enghien, Lembeek, Tubize, (Rameru), La Folie. Il acheva le château d'Enghien, élevé par son père. Il fit hommage de sa seigneurie à Godefroid duc de Brabant en 1154 ce qui indigna Baudouin comte de Hainaut qui l'assiégea dans son château afin qu'il rétracte son hommage4. Il épousa Jeanne de Luxembourg
I.5. Englebert III d'Enghien (1140-1205)
I.2. Englebert Ier, sire d'Enghien33,34 (° 1065), « vir nobilis », compagnon de Baudouin IV de Hainaut, l'édificateur35. Il scella une charte à propos de l'église de Soignies en 109236. Il eut pour fils :
I.3. Englebert II d'Enghien (° 1090)
I.4. Hugues Ier d'Enghien (1120-1190), seigneur d'Enghien, Lembeek, Tubize, (Rameru), La Folie. Il acheva le château d'Enghien, élevé par son père. Il fit hommage de sa seigneurie à Godefroid duc de Brabant en 1154 ce qui indigna Baudouin comte de Hainaut qui l'assiégea dans son château afin qu'il rétracte son hommage4. Il épousa Jeanne de Luxembourg
I.5. Englebert III d'Enghien (1140-1205)
See attached descendancy and related citations and sources for the Enghien family from Wikipédia (Fr.)
II. Genealogics does not identify Ansiaulm, but shows the remaining generations to match Wikipédia (Fr.):
II.1. (unstated)
II.2. Englebert I, Sire d'Enghien [1]
II.3. Englebert II, Sire d'Enghien [1.1] Descendancy chart to this point
Béatrix
II.4. Huwes I, Sire d'Enghien d. Aft 1190
II.5. Englebert III, Sire d'Enghien m. Elisabeth de Trazegnies
II.2. Englebert I, Sire d'Enghien [1]
II.3. Englebert II, Sire d'Enghien [1.1] Descendancy chart to this point
Béatrix
II.4. Huwes I, Sire d'Enghien d. Aft 1190
II.5. Englebert III, Sire d'Enghien m. Elisabeth de Trazegnies
III. Med Lands does not identify Ansiaul, and shows other major differences from Wikipédia (Fr.) and Genealogics. Med Lands starts by identifying two separate individuals, without a stated relationship:
1. ENGELBERT [I] d’Enghien (-after 1092).
2. BONIFACE [I] d’Enghien (-after 1117)
2. BONIFACE [I] d’Enghien (-after 1117)
Then Med Lands identifies "Two brothers. Their parents have not been identified, but the names of Hugues’s children Engelbert and Boniface suggest a close relationship with the two persons named above. The [1133] donation, cited below, of land in the same location by the Chin and Enghien families suggests some family connection, maybe through their mother."
The rest of the family are identified as:
III.1. (unstated)
III.2. (Engelbert I? Boniface I?)
III.3. HUGUES d’Enghien (-after 1166) m. Béatrix
III.4. ENGELBERT [II] d’Enghien, son of HUGUES d’Enghien & his wife Beatrix, m. Elizabeth [van de Aa]
III.5. ENGELBERT [III] d’Enghien (-22 Feb [1244/46]), m. Ida/Adelaide d'Avesnes
III.2. (Engelbert I? Boniface I?)
III.3. HUGUES d’Enghien (-after 1166) m. Béatrix
III.4. ENGELBERT [II] d’Enghien, son of HUGUES d’Enghien & his wife Beatrix, m. Elizabeth [van de Aa]
III.5. ENGELBERT [III] d’Enghien (-22 Feb [1244/46]), m. Ida/Adelaide d'Avesnes
(Note: separately, Med Lands says, "The precise relationship between the Enghien and Trazegnies families has not been traced.".)
IV. Racines et Histoire (Maison d'Enghien) comes closer to Med Lands in its presentation. It mentions Ansiaul as the progenitor, but shows the link from him to Englebert I as very tenuous. (See attached image of the relevant pages from Racines and Histoire). Racines et HIstoire shows:
IV.1. Ansiaul
IV.2. Englebert 1er ° ~1065/70
IV.2. Englebert 1er ° ~1065/70
Racines et histoire then shows:
IV.3. (as the possible son of Englebert I or or Othon seigneur d'Enghien or of Boniface I, son of Englebert I) HUGUES d’Enghien (d. after 1166) m. Jeanne de Luxembourg or Béatrice-
IV.4. ENGELBERT [II] d’Enghien (d. 1193) m. Elizabeth de Trazegnies (bef 1170-1195)
IV.5. ENGELBERT [III] d’Enghien (b. ca 1160 d. 23/02/1244), m1. Ide (Adelaïde, Adelheide) d’Audenaerde, m2. Ide d’Avesnes
IV.4. ENGELBERT [II] d’Enghien (d. 1193) m. Elizabeth de Trazegnies (bef 1170-1195)
IV.5. ENGELBERT [III] d’Enghien (b. ca 1160 d. 23/02/1244), m1. Ide (Adelaïde, Adelheide) d’Audenaerde, m2. Ide d’Avesnes
Conclusion:
Genealogics and Wikipédia (Fr.) have inserted one generation (Englebert II - I.3 and II.3) between Englebert I (I.2 and II.2) and Huwes/Hugues (I.4 and II.4), when compared to Med Lands and Racines et Histoire. It then seems that the Englebert III (m. Elisabeth de Trazegnies) shown by Genealogics/Wikipédia (Fr.) is the same person as the Engelbert II shown by Med Lands (m. Elizabeth [van de Aa]) and Racines et Histoire (m. Elizabeth de Trazegnies).
After considering the available information, I have left Ansiaul in the lineage, and have otherwise chosen to follow the descendancy as shown by Genealogics and Wikipédia (Fr.), though I have relied on Med Lands and Racines et Histoire for many of the other details. The extra Englebert, between Engleber I and Huwes/Hugues I, means there the various Engleberts are numbered differently in different sources. My numbering follows Genealogics and Wikipédia (Fr.) GA Vaut.1,2,3,4,5,6 EDV-29.
; Per Med Lands: "Delporte dismisses the existence of Anselme d’Enghien, supposed participant in the First Crusade, as fantasy based on fabricated sources[1158]."
Med Lands cites:
[1158] Delporte, L. ‘Anselme d’Enghien (fin Xie s.) ; un personnage légendaire!’, Bulletin trimestriel du Cercle Archéologique d’Enghien, no. 24 (Sep 1999), pp. 470-5.7
; Per Wikipédia (Fr.): "Ansiaul qui prit part à la première croisade en 1096 [32]. Il était peut-être le père de [33] Englebert Ier, sire d'Enghien"
Wikipédia (Fr.) cites:
[32] Duvivier, Pagus hainoensis', p. 468.
[33] René Goffin, La Maison d'Enghien, parue dans Généalogies enghiennoises, volume 1, 1966, pp. 12 et suivantes.1
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Citations
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Maison d'Enghien: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maison_d%27Enghien. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#_Toc43030529. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#_Toc43030531
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, https://www.genealogics.org/descendtext.php?personID=I00106862&tree=LEO&display=block&generations=5. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 19 July 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison d’ Enghien, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Enghien.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#_Toc43030528
Elizabeth van de Aa1
F, #94836, d. after 1180
Father | Leon II van de Aa2 d. bt 1165 - 1168 |
Mother | Mathilde (?)2 d. a 1175 |
Reference | EDV25 |
Last Edited | 11 Nov 2020 |
Elizabeth van de Aa married Englebert III d'Enghien chevalier, seigneur d’Enghien,, son of Huwes I (Hugues) d'Enghien seigneur d’Enghien, Lembeek, Tubize, (Rameru), et La Folie and Beatrix (?), before 1155.1
Elizabeth van de Aa died after 1180.1
; Per Med Lands:
"ENGELBERT [II] d’Enghien, son of HUGUES d’Enghien & his wife Beatrix --- (-Ninove 10 Dec 1193, bur Ninove). “Hugo de Adengem et v filii eius...Gozuinus, Ingelbertus, Nicholaus, Sigerus, Bonefacius et frater eius, Hainnerus, Gozuinus...” witnessed the charter dated to [1146/48] under which “Reinsuendis uxor Alardi Hasbenium...” donated property to Eename[1245]. A charter dated to 1166 records that “Hugo Angiensis cum filiis Gosuino, Engelberto, Sigero et Bonifacio” built “arcem apud Angiam”[1246]. Engelbert and Boniface were presumably the two unnamed brothers of Gossuin who witnessed the following document: “Walterus de Brussella filius Leonii de A” donated property “in parochia Anderlechtensi” to Affligem by charter dated 1168, witnessed by “…Gosuinus de Adengem et duo fratres eius…”[1247]. The Chronicon Hanoniense records "...Gossuinus de Aenghien, Engelbertus et Bonifacius fratres eius..." among the knights who served Baudouin V Comte de Hainaut in the war with “Henricus comes Namurcensis et Lusceleborch”, dated to 1172[1248]. “Walterus de Bruxella filius…Leonii” donated “decimam quandam successione hereditaria…apud Anderlecht Dilbeke Pede et apud A”, shared with “domina Hildegarde et nepotibus eius de Sottengem”, to Afflighem, with the consent of “Godescalco de Moreameis nepote meo et aliis coheredibus meis castellano…de Bruxella et filio eius Godefrido Ingelberto de Adengem et filio eius Hugone”, by charter dated 1173[1249]. “Engelbertus de Adinghe, Walterus de Adinghe, Gerardus, Nicholaus, fratres eiusdem Walteri…” witnessed the 1180 charter under which Roger Bishop of Cambrai confirmed donations to Ghislenghien, including the donation of “allodium suum quod adiacet ville de Polleirs” made by “Gossuinus de Adinghe et Gilla uxoris eius” with the consent of “Walteri de Aa et Elizabeth sororis eius, qui eiusdem allodii heredes erant iure successionis”[1250]. “Goswini de Adengem, Ingelberti fratris eius, Walteri et Gerardi fratrum” witnessed the charter dated 1 May 1185 under which “Osto de Trasenis” settled a dispute in favour of Ninove[1251]. Seigneur d’Enghien: “Gossuinus et Ingelbertus fratres et domini de Adengem, Gerardus de Adengem et filius eius Walterus” witnessed a charter dated 1186[1252]. “Dominus Ingelbertus de Adenghem, Walterus et Gerardus de Adengem, Ingelbertus filius eius” witnessed a charter dated 1189[1253]. Giselbert’s Chronicon Hanoniense records that Baudouin V Comte de Hainaut besieged Enghien castle after “Engleberto de Aenghien” swore allegiance to “ducem Lovaniensi contra comitem Hanoniensem”, the dispute being settled in favour of the Comte de Hainaut, dated to 1191[1254]. “Dominus Ingelbertus de Adenghem” donated land “apud Hartbecam” [Herbecq] to Ninove, with the consent of “domina Elisabeth et liberi sui Ingelbertus et Gisla et Ida uxor Ingelberti”, while “eadem Elisabeth“ also promised to obtain the consent of “Wilhelmo genero suo et uxore suo”, by charter dated [2] Dec 1193, the same document recording that eight days later “præfatus dominus Ingelbertus” died “in Ninive” where he was buried and where “uxore et filiis eius Ingelberto et Gisla et uxore Ingelberti” placed their donation on the altar, witnessed by “Gerardo et Arnulfo de Grimbergis, Impino de Otingem et Impino filio eius, et fratre eius Sigero, et filiis Gerardi de Adengem, Ingelberto, Gerardo et Arnaldo de Hautcrois et filiis suis”[1255]. The necrology of Ninove records the death “IV Id Dec” of “Ingelberti de Adenghem” and his donation of land “apud Hartbeke”[1256]. [Baudouin IX Count of Flanders granted himself “advocatiam” of Ninove and confirmed many donations, including the donation of “quatuor bonaria terræ” made by “Ingelbertus de Adenghem” with the consent of “filii sui Ingelberti”, by charter dated 1201[1257]. It is assumed that this donation was made many years earlier by Engelbert [II] and his son.]
"m ([before 1155?]) ELISABETH [van de Aa, daughter of LEON [II] van de Aa & his wife Mathilde ---] ([before 1140?]-[Dec 1193/1214]). She is named in the following document: [her son] “Engelbertus dominus de Aienghien” confirmed the donation of "vi bonaria quæ jacent in parochia Anderlechtensi" to Voorst abbey made by "Elisabeth mater mea piæ memoriæ" by charter dated 1214, witnessed by [her great nephew, grandson of her sister, and her nephew, son of her brother Walter] “Castellani de Bruxella, Leonii domini de Aa...”[1258]. Her marriage date is suggested based on the likely birth date of her son Hugues, shown below, which in turn suggests her approximate date of birth. “Dominus Ingelbertus de Adenghem” donated land “apud Hartbecam” to Ninove, with the consent of “domina Elisabeth et liberi sui Ingelbertus et Gisla et Ida uxor Ingelberti”, while “eadem Elisabeth“ also promised to obtain the consent of “Wilhelmo genero suo et uxore suo”, by charter dated [2] Dec 1193, the same document recording that eight days later “præfatus dominus Ingelbertus” died “in Ninive” where he was buried and where “uxore et filiis eius Ingelberto et Gisla et uxore Ingelberti” placed their donation on the altar[1259]. She was named as deceased in her son’s 1214 charter quoted above.
"Her suggested parentage is indicated by reading the following five documents together:
"Based on these charters, the logic leading to the suggested conclusion about Elisabeth’s parentage is summarised in seven steps as follows:
"One difficulty with this hypothesis is the apparent absence of the name Leon among Elisabeth’s known Enghien descendants. An alternative possibility could help explain that absence: Elisabeth (as well as her older sister, wife of Franco [III] Châtelain de Bruxelles) could have been the daughters of Walter’s aunt Gisla, by an unrecorded first marriage. Such a possibility appears consistent with the seven logical steps outlined above, except step (d) unless the term “avunculus” in charter (4) was used in an extended sense. It would also explain Elisabeth naming her daughter Gisèle/Gisla. In this alternative case, Walter’s sister Elisabeth may have been the widow of Arnaud [III] de Morialmes.
"
It should be noted that Butkens’s inaccurate transcription of the Mar 1224 (O.S.) testament of her son Engelbert [III] incorrectly suggests a connection between Elisabeth and the Trazegnies family: the sealing clause, as transcribed by Butkens, specified "sigillum Sigeri filii mei et sigillum Ostonis patrui mei cum meo"[1266], while the original reads “sigillum Sigeri filii mei et sigillum Ostonis Patrui cum meo”[1267], indicating that the second seal belonged to Oste [III] de Trazegnies Seigneur de Seigneur de Contrecœur/Wedergraet (in other documents named “Osto...dictus avunculus”, see Chapter 9.B of the present document), not that “Ostonis” was “patruus” of the testator."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"ELISABETH van de Aa (-after 1180). Her parentage is confirmed by the 1180 charter quoted below which names Elisabeth as the sister of Walter van de Aa. [same person as...? ELISABETH ([before 1140?]-[Dec 1193/1214]). This suggested co-identity and Elisabeth’s marriage are indicated by reading the following five documents together:
"Based on these charters, the logic leading to the suggested conclusion about Elisabeth’s parentage is summarised in seven steps as follows:
"One difficulty with this hypothesis is the apparent absence of the name Leon among Elisabeth’s known Enghien descendants. An alternative possibility could help explain that absence: Elisabeth (as well as her older sister, wife of Franco [III] Châtelain de Bruxelles) could have been the daughter of Walter’s aunt Gisla, by an unrecorded first marriage. Such a possibility appears consistent with the seven logical steps outlined above, except step (d) unless the term “avunculus” in charter (4) was used in an extended sense. It would also explain Elisabeth naming her daughter Gisèle/Gisla. In this alternative case, Walter’s sister Elisabeth may have been the widow of Arnaud [III] de Morialmes.
"Elisabeth’s marriage date is suggested based on the likely birth date of her son Hugues, which in turn suggests her approximate date of birth. “Dominus Ingelbertus de Adenghem” donated land “apud Hartbecam” to Ninove, with the consent of “domina Elisabeth et liberi sui Ingelbertus et Gisla et Ida uxor Ingelberti”, while “eadem Elisabeth“ also promised to obtain the consent of “Wilhelmo genero suo et uxore suo”, by charter dated [2] Dec 1193, the same document recording that eight days later “præfatus dominus Ingelbertus” died “in Ninive” where he was buried and where “uxore et filiis eius Ingelberto et Gisla et uxore Ingelberti” placed their donation on the altar[966]. She is named as deceased in the following document: [her son] “Engelbertus dominus de Aienghien” confirmed the donation of "vi bonaria quæ jacent in parochia Anderlechtensi" to Voorst abbey made by "Elisabeth mater mea piæ memoriæ" by charter dated 1214, witnessed by [her great nephew, grandson of her sister, and her nephew, son of her brother Walter] “Castellani de Bruxella, Leonii domini de Aa...”[967].
m ([before 1155?]) ENGELBERT [II] Seigneur d’Enghien, son of HUGUES d’Enghien & his wife Beatrix --- (-Ninove 10 Dec 1193, bur Ninove).]"
Med Lands cites:
; NB: There is disagreement as to the wife of Englebert III.
Genealogics says his wife was Elisabeth de Trazegnies, dau. of Otton II de Trazegnies.
Med Lands says she was Elizabeth van de Aa, dau. of Leon II van de Aa. (See the separate Med Lands Note for Elizabeth van de Aa an extensive discussion of the evidence for Elizabeth van de Aa.)
Wikipédia (Fr.) doesn't show a wife.
Racines et Histoire (Enghien) says she was Elisabeth de Trazegnies dau. of Othon II.
Conclusion: I have chosen to assign Englebert III's wife, Elisabeth, as the dau. of Leon II van de Aa and his wife Mathilde. I have also chosen to assign Englebert's children to her. GA Vaut.4,3,5,6,7
Elizabeth van de Aa died after 1180.1
; Per Med Lands:
"ENGELBERT [II] d’Enghien, son of HUGUES d’Enghien & his wife Beatrix --- (-Ninove 10 Dec 1193, bur Ninove). “Hugo de Adengem et v filii eius...Gozuinus, Ingelbertus, Nicholaus, Sigerus, Bonefacius et frater eius, Hainnerus, Gozuinus...” witnessed the charter dated to [1146/48] under which “Reinsuendis uxor Alardi Hasbenium...” donated property to Eename[1245]. A charter dated to 1166 records that “Hugo Angiensis cum filiis Gosuino, Engelberto, Sigero et Bonifacio” built “arcem apud Angiam”[1246]. Engelbert and Boniface were presumably the two unnamed brothers of Gossuin who witnessed the following document: “Walterus de Brussella filius Leonii de A” donated property “in parochia Anderlechtensi” to Affligem by charter dated 1168, witnessed by “…Gosuinus de Adengem et duo fratres eius…”[1247]. The Chronicon Hanoniense records "...Gossuinus de Aenghien, Engelbertus et Bonifacius fratres eius..." among the knights who served Baudouin V Comte de Hainaut in the war with “Henricus comes Namurcensis et Lusceleborch”, dated to 1172[1248]. “Walterus de Bruxella filius…Leonii” donated “decimam quandam successione hereditaria…apud Anderlecht Dilbeke Pede et apud A”, shared with “domina Hildegarde et nepotibus eius de Sottengem”, to Afflighem, with the consent of “Godescalco de Moreameis nepote meo et aliis coheredibus meis castellano…de Bruxella et filio eius Godefrido Ingelberto de Adengem et filio eius Hugone”, by charter dated 1173[1249]. “Engelbertus de Adinghe, Walterus de Adinghe, Gerardus, Nicholaus, fratres eiusdem Walteri…” witnessed the 1180 charter under which Roger Bishop of Cambrai confirmed donations to Ghislenghien, including the donation of “allodium suum quod adiacet ville de Polleirs” made by “Gossuinus de Adinghe et Gilla uxoris eius” with the consent of “Walteri de Aa et Elizabeth sororis eius, qui eiusdem allodii heredes erant iure successionis”[1250]. “Goswini de Adengem, Ingelberti fratris eius, Walteri et Gerardi fratrum” witnessed the charter dated 1 May 1185 under which “Osto de Trasenis” settled a dispute in favour of Ninove[1251]. Seigneur d’Enghien: “Gossuinus et Ingelbertus fratres et domini de Adengem, Gerardus de Adengem et filius eius Walterus” witnessed a charter dated 1186[1252]. “Dominus Ingelbertus de Adenghem, Walterus et Gerardus de Adengem, Ingelbertus filius eius” witnessed a charter dated 1189[1253]. Giselbert’s Chronicon Hanoniense records that Baudouin V Comte de Hainaut besieged Enghien castle after “Engleberto de Aenghien” swore allegiance to “ducem Lovaniensi contra comitem Hanoniensem”, the dispute being settled in favour of the Comte de Hainaut, dated to 1191[1254]. “Dominus Ingelbertus de Adenghem” donated land “apud Hartbecam” [Herbecq] to Ninove, with the consent of “domina Elisabeth et liberi sui Ingelbertus et Gisla et Ida uxor Ingelberti”, while “eadem Elisabeth“ also promised to obtain the consent of “Wilhelmo genero suo et uxore suo”, by charter dated [2] Dec 1193, the same document recording that eight days later “præfatus dominus Ingelbertus” died “in Ninive” where he was buried and where “uxore et filiis eius Ingelberto et Gisla et uxore Ingelberti” placed their donation on the altar, witnessed by “Gerardo et Arnulfo de Grimbergis, Impino de Otingem et Impino filio eius, et fratre eius Sigero, et filiis Gerardi de Adengem, Ingelberto, Gerardo et Arnaldo de Hautcrois et filiis suis”[1255]. The necrology of Ninove records the death “IV Id Dec” of “Ingelberti de Adenghem” and his donation of land “apud Hartbeke”[1256]. [Baudouin IX Count of Flanders granted himself “advocatiam” of Ninove and confirmed many donations, including the donation of “quatuor bonaria terræ” made by “Ingelbertus de Adenghem” with the consent of “filii sui Ingelberti”, by charter dated 1201[1257]. It is assumed that this donation was made many years earlier by Engelbert [II] and his son.]
"m ([before 1155?]) ELISABETH [van de Aa, daughter of LEON [II] van de Aa & his wife Mathilde ---] ([before 1140?]-[Dec 1193/1214]). She is named in the following document: [her son] “Engelbertus dominus de Aienghien” confirmed the donation of "vi bonaria quæ jacent in parochia Anderlechtensi" to Voorst abbey made by "Elisabeth mater mea piæ memoriæ" by charter dated 1214, witnessed by [her great nephew, grandson of her sister, and her nephew, son of her brother Walter] “Castellani de Bruxella, Leonii domini de Aa...”[1258]. Her marriage date is suggested based on the likely birth date of her son Hugues, shown below, which in turn suggests her approximate date of birth. “Dominus Ingelbertus de Adenghem” donated land “apud Hartbecam” to Ninove, with the consent of “domina Elisabeth et liberi sui Ingelbertus et Gisla et Ida uxor Ingelberti”, while “eadem Elisabeth“ also promised to obtain the consent of “Wilhelmo genero suo et uxore suo”, by charter dated [2] Dec 1193, the same document recording that eight days later “præfatus dominus Ingelbertus” died “in Ninive” where he was buried and where “uxore et filiis eius Ingelberto et Gisla et uxore Ingelberti” placed their donation on the altar[1259]. She was named as deceased in her son’s 1214 charter quoted above.
"Her suggested parentage is indicated by reading the following five documents together:
"(1) the 1173 contract under which [her supposed brother] “Walterus de Bruxella filius…Leonii” donated “decimam quandam successione hereditaria…apud Anderlecht Dilbeke Pede et apud A”, shared with “domina Hildegarde et nepotibus eius de Sottengem”, to Afflighem, with the consent of “Godescalco de Moreameis nepote meo et aliis coheredibus meis castellano…de Bruxella et filio eius Godefrido Ingelberto de Adengem [Elisabeth’s husband] et filio eius Hugone”[1260];
"(2) the 1180 charter under which “Walterus et amita mea domina Gisla de Aingem” donated rights “in…allodio nostro in Pedhe…” to Grimbergen[1261];
"(3) the 1180 charter under which Roger Bishop of Cambrai confirmed donations to Ghislenghien, including the donation of “allodium suum quod adiacet ville de Polleirs” made by “Gossuinus de Adinghe et Gilla uxoris eius” with the consent of “Walteri de Aa et Elizabeth sororis eius, qui eiusdem allodii heredes erant iure successionis”, witnessed by “Engelbertus de Adinghe…”[1262];
"(4) the 26 Aug 1178 charter under which [the son of Elisabeth’s sister] “Godefridus fili[us] Franconis castellanis de Bruxella” confirmed all donations made by “pater eius…ad sepulturam patris sui”, including “advocatiam…de Catthem…medietatem villæ de Strithem…quæ avus suus apud Seneffiam nobis contulit”, to Ninove, witnessed by [her brother] “…D[omi]nus Galterus de Pollar avu[N]culus Godefridi…”[1263]; and
"(5) Godefroi Duke of Brabant, at the request of "domina Berta de Anderlecht..cum filiis suis Gerardo…Wilelmo et Arnulfo et duobus generis Waltero…de Crainhem, Oliverio de Gest, et Herardo de Hidengem qui sororem eius duxit uxorem", donated “allodii...inter Woluesem et Bygardis” to "ecclesiæ sanctæ Mariæ in Bigardis" by charter dated 1143, which records that "dominus Leonius [Leon [I], see above] cum filiis suis Bernerus de Morcella cum filiis suis Gerardus de Sottenghem cum filiis suis" renounced rights[1264].
"(2) the 1180 charter under which “Walterus et amita mea domina Gisla de Aingem” donated rights “in…allodio nostro in Pedhe…” to Grimbergen[1261];
"(3) the 1180 charter under which Roger Bishop of Cambrai confirmed donations to Ghislenghien, including the donation of “allodium suum quod adiacet ville de Polleirs” made by “Gossuinus de Adinghe et Gilla uxoris eius” with the consent of “Walteri de Aa et Elizabeth sororis eius, qui eiusdem allodii heredes erant iure successionis”, witnessed by “Engelbertus de Adinghe…”[1262];
"(4) the 26 Aug 1178 charter under which [the son of Elisabeth’s sister] “Godefridus fili[us] Franconis castellanis de Bruxella” confirmed all donations made by “pater eius…ad sepulturam patris sui”, including “advocatiam…de Catthem…medietatem villæ de Strithem…quæ avus suus apud Seneffiam nobis contulit”, to Ninove, witnessed by [her brother] “…D[omi]nus Galterus de Pollar avu[N]culus Godefridi…”[1263]; and
"(5) Godefroi Duke of Brabant, at the request of "domina Berta de Anderlecht..cum filiis suis Gerardo…Wilelmo et Arnulfo et duobus generis Waltero…de Crainhem, Oliverio de Gest, et Herardo de Hidengem qui sororem eius duxit uxorem", donated “allodii...inter Woluesem et Bygardis” to "ecclesiæ sanctæ Mariæ in Bigardis" by charter dated 1143, which records that "dominus Leonius [Leon [I], see above] cum filiis suis Bernerus de Morcella cum filiis suis Gerardus de Sottenghem cum filiis suis" renounced rights[1264].
"Based on these charters, the logic leading to the suggested conclusion about Elisabeth’s parentage is summarised in seven steps as follows:
"(a) charter (1) indicates that Walter van de Aa and the other named persons together inherited Anderlecht, Dilbeke, Pede and Aa from a common ancestor (male or female line not specified);
"(b) charter (2) records that Walter and his aunt Gisla held Pede together, inherited therefore from one of Gisla’s parents, Leon [I] van de Aa/de Bruxelles or his wife;
"(c) charter (3) indicates that Gisla, Walter, and Walter’s sister Elisabeth inherited Pollare together, also therefore inherited from one of Gisla’s parents;
"(d) charter (4) indicates that the mother of Godefroy Châtelain de Bruxelles, named with his father in charter (1), was Walter’s sister (assuming that avunculus in that document is interpreted in its strict sense of maternal uncle);
"(e) charter (3) suggests that Walter’s sister Elisabeth was closely connected with the Enghien family as indicated by the witness list, suggesting that she was not the same person as the unnamed mother of Godefroy Châtelain de Bruxelles;
"(f) while the terms amita and avunculus were sometimes used loosely to indicate maternal or paternal aunt/uncle (or even a more distant family relationship)[1265], the above analysis is consistent with “amita” in charter (2) and “avunculus” in charter (4) being interpreted in their strict sense of paternal aunt and maternal uncle respectively; and
"(g) charter (5) provides a further indication that Walter inherited the package of properties mentioned in the other charters from one of his paternal grandparents. The reference to “dominus Leonius cum filiis suis” suggests that this was his paternal grandmother: his sons (one of whom was Walter’s father) were referenced probably because they had inherited the rights in question from their mother (also the mother of Gisla) and that their father was named to represent their interests presumably because they were minors at the time.
"(b) charter (2) records that Walter and his aunt Gisla held Pede together, inherited therefore from one of Gisla’s parents, Leon [I] van de Aa/de Bruxelles or his wife;
"(c) charter (3) indicates that Gisla, Walter, and Walter’s sister Elisabeth inherited Pollare together, also therefore inherited from one of Gisla’s parents;
"(d) charter (4) indicates that the mother of Godefroy Châtelain de Bruxelles, named with his father in charter (1), was Walter’s sister (assuming that avunculus in that document is interpreted in its strict sense of maternal uncle);
"(e) charter (3) suggests that Walter’s sister Elisabeth was closely connected with the Enghien family as indicated by the witness list, suggesting that she was not the same person as the unnamed mother of Godefroy Châtelain de Bruxelles;
"(f) while the terms amita and avunculus were sometimes used loosely to indicate maternal or paternal aunt/uncle (or even a more distant family relationship)[1265], the above analysis is consistent with “amita” in charter (2) and “avunculus” in charter (4) being interpreted in their strict sense of paternal aunt and maternal uncle respectively; and
"(g) charter (5) provides a further indication that Walter inherited the package of properties mentioned in the other charters from one of his paternal grandparents. The reference to “dominus Leonius cum filiis suis” suggests that this was his paternal grandmother: his sons (one of whom was Walter’s father) were referenced probably because they had inherited the rights in question from their mother (also the mother of Gisla) and that their father was named to represent their interests presumably because they were minors at the time.
"One difficulty with this hypothesis is the apparent absence of the name Leon among Elisabeth’s known Enghien descendants. An alternative possibility could help explain that absence: Elisabeth (as well as her older sister, wife of Franco [III] Châtelain de Bruxelles) could have been the daughters of Walter’s aunt Gisla, by an unrecorded first marriage. Such a possibility appears consistent with the seven logical steps outlined above, except step (d) unless the term “avunculus” in charter (4) was used in an extended sense. It would also explain Elisabeth naming her daughter Gisèle/Gisla. In this alternative case, Walter’s sister Elisabeth may have been the widow of Arnaud [III] de Morialmes.
"
It should be noted that Butkens’s inaccurate transcription of the Mar 1224 (O.S.) testament of her son Engelbert [III] incorrectly suggests a connection between Elisabeth and the Trazegnies family: the sealing clause, as transcribed by Butkens, specified "sigillum Sigeri filii mei et sigillum Ostonis patrui mei cum meo"[1266], while the original reads “sigillum Sigeri filii mei et sigillum Ostonis Patrui cum meo”[1267], indicating that the second seal belonged to Oste [III] de Trazegnies Seigneur de Seigneur de Contrecœur/Wedergraet (in other documents named “Osto...dictus avunculus”, see Chapter 9.B of the present document), not that “Ostonis” was “patruus” of the testator."
Med Lands cites:
[1245] Eename, 375, p. 357, dating at (3 Apr 2020).
[1246] Roobaert & Vanhollebeke ‘Le Liber Chronotaxis’ (2003), Annexe A, p. 17.
[1247] (11 Apr 2020.
[1248] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, pp. 522-3.
[1249] < https://www.diplomata-belgica.be/charter_details_fr.php?dibe_id=1981> (4 Apr 2020).
[1250] Van De Perre ‘De middeleeuwse geschiedenis van Pollare’ (2017), Bijlage 1, p. 194.
[1251] Ninove, LII, p. 788.
[1252] Roobaert & Vanhollebeke ‘Le Liber Chronotaxis’ (2003), Tableau, p. 22, citing “acte 16, p. 128” [AE Gand, Abbaye Ninove, 70, fo. 128, 1186/16].
[1253] Roobaert & Vanhollebeke ‘Le Liber Chronotaxis’ (2003), Tableau, p. 23, citing “acte 6, p. 143” [AE Gand, Abbaye Ninove, 70, fo. 143, 1189/6].
[1254] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 576.
[1255] Van De Perre ‘De middeleeuwse geschiedenis van Pollare’ (2017), Bijlage 2, p. 196.
[1256] Van De Perre ‘De middeleeuwse geschiedenis van Pollare’ (2017), p. 197, citing Van De Perre, D. (2008) Het necrologium van de Sint-Cornelius en Sint-Cyprianusabdij te Ninove (Averbode), p. 177, text at Delporte, L. (2019) Le necrologium de l’abbaye Saint-Corneille et Saint-Cyprien de Ninove, consulted at (4 Apr 2020).
[1257] Præmonstratensis Annales (1736), Tome II, Probationes, col. ccxxxviii.
[1258] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Notitia Ecclesiarum Belgii, CLXXXII, p. 757.
[1259] Van De Perre ‘De middeleeuwse geschiedenis van Pollare’ (2017), Bijlage 2, p. 196.
[1260] (4 Apr 2020).
[1261] De Ridder, C. B.. ‘Quelques mots sur le lieu de naissance de Sainte Reinelde’, Analectes pour servir à l’Histoire ecclésiastique de la Belgique, Tome IX (Louvain, Bruxelles 1872), p. 44.
[1262] Van De Perre, D. ‘De middeleeuwse geschiedenis van Pollare’, Het Land van Alst, Tome 69 (2017), Bijlage 1, p. 194, consulted at (3 Apr 2020).
[1263] Archives de l’Etat à Gand, Abbaye de Ninove, no. 70, fo. 74, 1178/acte 6 (copy of text sent to the author by Luc Delporte 7 Apr 2020).
[1264] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, XLVIII, p. 44.
[1265] Cawley ‘Relationship terms in medieval Latin’ (2015), pp. 30-4.
[1266] Butkens (1724), Vol. II, p. 114.
[1267] Vanhollebeke, J. J. ‘Le testament d’Engelbert d’Enghien (mars 1225 N.S.)’, Annales du Cercle archéologique d’Enghien, Tome 38 (2004), Annexe, pp. 21-2.3
EDV-25. [1246] Roobaert & Vanhollebeke ‘Le Liber Chronotaxis’ (2003), Annexe A, p. 17.
[1247]
[1248] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, pp. 522-3.
[1249] < https://www.diplomata-belgica.be/charter_details_fr.php?dibe_id=1981> (4 Apr 2020).
[1250] Van De Perre ‘De middeleeuwse geschiedenis van Pollare’ (2017), Bijlage 1, p. 194.
[1251] Ninove, LII, p. 788.
[1252] Roobaert & Vanhollebeke ‘Le Liber Chronotaxis’ (2003), Tableau, p. 22, citing “acte 16, p. 128” [AE Gand, Abbaye Ninove, 70, fo. 128, 1186/16].
[1253] Roobaert & Vanhollebeke ‘Le Liber Chronotaxis’ (2003), Tableau, p. 23, citing “acte 6, p. 143” [AE Gand, Abbaye Ninove, 70, fo. 143, 1189/6].
[1254] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 576.
[1255] Van De Perre ‘De middeleeuwse geschiedenis van Pollare’ (2017), Bijlage 2, p. 196.
[1256] Van De Perre ‘De middeleeuwse geschiedenis van Pollare’ (2017), p. 197, citing Van De Perre, D. (2008) Het necrologium van de Sint-Cornelius en Sint-Cyprianusabdij te Ninove (Averbode), p. 177, text at Delporte, L. (2019) Le necrologium de l’abbaye Saint-Corneille et Saint-Cyprien de Ninove, consulted at
[1257] Præmonstratensis Annales (1736), Tome II, Probationes, col. ccxxxviii.
[1258] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Notitia Ecclesiarum Belgii, CLXXXII, p. 757.
[1259] Van De Perre ‘De middeleeuwse geschiedenis van Pollare’ (2017), Bijlage 2, p. 196.
[1260]
[1261] De Ridder, C. B.. ‘Quelques mots sur le lieu de naissance de Sainte Reinelde’, Analectes pour servir à l’Histoire ecclésiastique de la Belgique, Tome IX (Louvain, Bruxelles 1872), p. 44.
[1262] Van De Perre, D. ‘De middeleeuwse geschiedenis van Pollare’, Het Land van Alst, Tome 69 (2017), Bijlage 1, p. 194, consulted at
[1263] Archives de l’Etat à Gand, Abbaye de Ninove, no. 70, fo. 74, 1178/acte 6 (copy of text sent to the author by Luc Delporte 7 Apr 2020).
[1264] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, XLVIII, p. 44.
[1265] Cawley ‘Relationship terms in medieval Latin’ (2015), pp. 30-4.
[1266] Butkens (1724), Vol. II, p. 114.
[1267] Vanhollebeke, J. J. ‘Le testament d’Engelbert d’Enghien (mars 1225 N.S.)’, Annales du Cercle archéologique d’Enghien, Tome 38 (2004), Annexe, pp. 21-2.3
; Per Med Lands:
"ELISABETH van de Aa (-after 1180). Her parentage is confirmed by the 1180 charter quoted below which names Elisabeth as the sister of Walter van de Aa. [same person as...? ELISABETH ([before 1140?]-[Dec 1193/1214]). This suggested co-identity and Elisabeth’s marriage are indicated by reading the following five documents together:
"(1) the 1173 contract under which [her supposed brother] “Walterus de Bruxella filius…Leonii” donated “decimam quandam successione hereditaria…apud Anderlecht Dilbeke Pede et apud A”, shared with “domina Hildegarde et nepotibus eius de Sottengem”, to Afflighem, with the consent of “Godescalco de Moreameis nepote meo et aliis coheredibus meis castellano…de Bruxella et filio eius Godefrido Ingelberto de Adengem [Elisabeth’s husband] et filio eius Hugone”[960];
"(2) the 1180 charter under which “Walterus et amita mea domina Gisla de Aingem” donated rights “in…allodio nostro in Pedhe…” to Grimbergen[961];
"(3) the 1180 charter under which Roger Bishop of Cambrai confirmed donations to Ghislenghien, including the donation of “allodium suum quod adiacet ville de Polleirs” made by “Gossuinus de Adinghe et Gilla uxoris eius” with the consent of “Walteri de Aa et Elizabeth sororis eius, qui eiusdem allodii heredes erant iure successionis”, witnessed by “Engelbertus de Adinghe…”[962];
"(4) the 26 Aug 1178 charter under which [the son of Elisabeth’s sister] “Godefridus fili[us] Franconis castellanis de Bruxella” confirmed all donations made by “pater eius…ad sepulturam patris sui”, including “advocatiam…de Catthem…medietatem villæ de Strithem…quæ avus suus apud Seneffiam nobis contulit”, to Ninove, witnessed by [her brother] “…D[omi]nus Galterus de Pollar avu[N]culus Godefridi…”[963]; and
"(5) Godefroi Duke of Brabant, at the request of "domina Berta de Anderlecht..cum filiis suis Gerardo…Wilelmo et Arnulfo et duobus generis Waltero…de Crainhem, Oliverio de Gest, et Herardo de Hidengem qui sororem eius duxit uxorem", donated “allodii...inter Woluesem et Bygardis” to "ecclesiæ sanctæ Mariæ in Bigardis" by charter dated 1143, which records that "dominus Leonius [Leon [I], see above] cum filiis suis Bernerus de Morcella cum filiis suis Gerardus de Sottenghem cum filiis suis" renounced rights[964].
"(2) the 1180 charter under which “Walterus et amita mea domina Gisla de Aingem” donated rights “in…allodio nostro in Pedhe…” to Grimbergen[961];
"(3) the 1180 charter under which Roger Bishop of Cambrai confirmed donations to Ghislenghien, including the donation of “allodium suum quod adiacet ville de Polleirs” made by “Gossuinus de Adinghe et Gilla uxoris eius” with the consent of “Walteri de Aa et Elizabeth sororis eius, qui eiusdem allodii heredes erant iure successionis”, witnessed by “Engelbertus de Adinghe…”[962];
"(4) the 26 Aug 1178 charter under which [the son of Elisabeth’s sister] “Godefridus fili[us] Franconis castellanis de Bruxella” confirmed all donations made by “pater eius…ad sepulturam patris sui”, including “advocatiam…de Catthem…medietatem villæ de Strithem…quæ avus suus apud Seneffiam nobis contulit”, to Ninove, witnessed by [her brother] “…D[omi]nus Galterus de Pollar avu[N]culus Godefridi…”[963]; and
"(5) Godefroi Duke of Brabant, at the request of "domina Berta de Anderlecht..cum filiis suis Gerardo…Wilelmo et Arnulfo et duobus generis Waltero…de Crainhem, Oliverio de Gest, et Herardo de Hidengem qui sororem eius duxit uxorem", donated “allodii...inter Woluesem et Bygardis” to "ecclesiæ sanctæ Mariæ in Bigardis" by charter dated 1143, which records that "dominus Leonius [Leon [I], see above] cum filiis suis Bernerus de Morcella cum filiis suis Gerardus de Sottenghem cum filiis suis" renounced rights[964].
"Based on these charters, the logic leading to the suggested conclusion about Elisabeth’s parentage is summarised in seven steps as follows:
"(a) charter (1) indicates that Walter van de Aa and the other named persons together inherited Anderlecht, Dilbeke, Pede and Aa from a common ancestor (male or female line not specified);
"(b) charter (2) records that Walter and his aunt Gisla held Pede together, inherited therefore from one of Gisla’s parents, Leon [I] van de Aa/de Bruxelles or his wife;
"(c) charter (3) indicates that Gisla, Walter, and Walter’s sister Elisabeth inherited Pollare together, also therefore inherited from one of Gisla’s parents;
"(d) charter (4) indicates that the mother of Godefroy Châtelain de Bruxelles, named with his father in charter (1), was Walter’s sister (assuming that avunculus in that document is interpreted in its strict sense of maternal uncle);
"(e) charter (3) suggests that Walter’s sister Elisabeth was closely connected with the Enghien family as indicated by the witness list, suggesting that she was not the same person as the unnamed mother of Godefroy Châtelain de Bruxelles;
"(f) while the terms amita and avunculus were sometimes used loosely to indicate maternal or paternal aunt/uncle (or even a more distant family relationship)[965], the above analysis is consistent with “amita” in charter (2) and “avunculus” in charter (4) being interpreted in their strict sense of paternal aunt and maternal uncle respectively; and
"(g) charter (5) provides a further indication that Walter inherited the package of properties mentioned in the other charters from one of his paternal grandparents. The reference to “dominus Leonius cum filiis suis” suggests that this was his paternal grandmother: his sons (one of whom was Walter’s father) were referenced probably because they had inherited the rights in question from their mother (also the mother of Gisla) and that their father was named to represent their interests presumably because they were minors at the time.
"(b) charter (2) records that Walter and his aunt Gisla held Pede together, inherited therefore from one of Gisla’s parents, Leon [I] van de Aa/de Bruxelles or his wife;
"(c) charter (3) indicates that Gisla, Walter, and Walter’s sister Elisabeth inherited Pollare together, also therefore inherited from one of Gisla’s parents;
"(d) charter (4) indicates that the mother of Godefroy Châtelain de Bruxelles, named with his father in charter (1), was Walter’s sister (assuming that avunculus in that document is interpreted in its strict sense of maternal uncle);
"(e) charter (3) suggests that Walter’s sister Elisabeth was closely connected with the Enghien family as indicated by the witness list, suggesting that she was not the same person as the unnamed mother of Godefroy Châtelain de Bruxelles;
"(f) while the terms amita and avunculus were sometimes used loosely to indicate maternal or paternal aunt/uncle (or even a more distant family relationship)[965], the above analysis is consistent with “amita” in charter (2) and “avunculus” in charter (4) being interpreted in their strict sense of paternal aunt and maternal uncle respectively; and
"(g) charter (5) provides a further indication that Walter inherited the package of properties mentioned in the other charters from one of his paternal grandparents. The reference to “dominus Leonius cum filiis suis” suggests that this was his paternal grandmother: his sons (one of whom was Walter’s father) were referenced probably because they had inherited the rights in question from their mother (also the mother of Gisla) and that their father was named to represent their interests presumably because they were minors at the time.
"One difficulty with this hypothesis is the apparent absence of the name Leon among Elisabeth’s known Enghien descendants. An alternative possibility could help explain that absence: Elisabeth (as well as her older sister, wife of Franco [III] Châtelain de Bruxelles) could have been the daughter of Walter’s aunt Gisla, by an unrecorded first marriage. Such a possibility appears consistent with the seven logical steps outlined above, except step (d) unless the term “avunculus” in charter (4) was used in an extended sense. It would also explain Elisabeth naming her daughter Gisèle/Gisla. In this alternative case, Walter’s sister Elisabeth may have been the widow of Arnaud [III] de Morialmes.
"Elisabeth’s marriage date is suggested based on the likely birth date of her son Hugues, which in turn suggests her approximate date of birth. “Dominus Ingelbertus de Adenghem” donated land “apud Hartbecam” to Ninove, with the consent of “domina Elisabeth et liberi sui Ingelbertus et Gisla et Ida uxor Ingelberti”, while “eadem Elisabeth“ also promised to obtain the consent of “Wilhelmo genero suo et uxore suo”, by charter dated [2] Dec 1193, the same document recording that eight days later “præfatus dominus Ingelbertus” died “in Ninive” where he was buried and where “uxore et filiis eius Ingelberto et Gisla et uxore Ingelberti” placed their donation on the altar[966]. She is named as deceased in the following document: [her son] “Engelbertus dominus de Aienghien” confirmed the donation of "vi bonaria quæ jacent in parochia Anderlechtensi" to Voorst abbey made by "Elisabeth mater mea piæ memoriæ" by charter dated 1214, witnessed by [her great nephew, grandson of her sister, and her nephew, son of her brother Walter] “Castellani de Bruxella, Leonii domini de Aa...”[967].
m ([before 1155?]) ENGELBERT [II] Seigneur d’Enghien, son of HUGUES d’Enghien & his wife Beatrix --- (-Ninove 10 Dec 1193, bur Ninove).]"
Med Lands cites:
[960] (4 Apr 2020).
[961] De Ridder, C. B.. ‘Quelques mots sur le lieu de naissance de Sainte Reinelde’, Analectes pour servir à l’Histoire ecclésiastique de la Belgique, Tome IX (Louvain, Bruxelles 1872), p. 44.
[962] Van De Perre, D. ‘De middeleeuwse geschiedenis van Pollare’, Het Land van Alst, Tome 69 (2017), Bijlage 1, p. 194, consulted at (3 Apr 2020).
[963] Archives de l’Etat à Gand, Abbaye de Ninove, no. 70, fo. 74, 1178/acte 6 (copy of text sent to the author by Luc Delporte 7 Apr 2020).
[964] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, XLVIII, p. 44.
[965] Cawley, C. ‘Was my aunt her grandmother’s niece? A guide to relationship terms in medieval Latin’, Foundations, Vol. 7 (2015), pp. 30-4.
[966] Van De Perre ‘De middeleeuwse geschiedenis van Pollare’ (2017), Bijlage 2, p. 196.
[967] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Notitia Ecclesiarum Belgii, CLXXXII, p. 757.1
[961] De Ridder, C. B.. ‘Quelques mots sur le lieu de naissance de Sainte Reinelde’, Analectes pour servir à l’Histoire ecclésiastique de la Belgique, Tome IX (Louvain, Bruxelles 1872), p. 44.
[962] Van De Perre, D. ‘De middeleeuwse geschiedenis van Pollare’, Het Land van Alst, Tome 69 (2017), Bijlage 1, p. 194, consulted at
[963] Archives de l’Etat à Gand, Abbaye de Ninove, no. 70, fo. 74, 1178/acte 6 (copy of text sent to the author by Luc Delporte 7 Apr 2020).
[964] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, XLVIII, p. 44.
[965] Cawley, C. ‘Was my aunt her grandmother’s niece? A guide to relationship terms in medieval Latin’, Foundations, Vol. 7 (2015), pp. 30-4.
[966] Van De Perre ‘De middeleeuwse geschiedenis van Pollare’ (2017), Bijlage 2, p. 196.
[967] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Notitia Ecclesiarum Belgii, CLXXXII, p. 757.1
; NB: There is disagreement as to the wife of Englebert III.
Genealogics says his wife was Elisabeth de Trazegnies, dau. of Otton II de Trazegnies.
Med Lands says she was Elizabeth van de Aa, dau. of Leon II van de Aa. (See the separate Med Lands Note for Elizabeth van de Aa an extensive discussion of the evidence for Elizabeth van de Aa.)
Wikipédia (Fr.) doesn't show a wife.
Racines et Histoire (Enghien) says she was Elisabeth de Trazegnies dau. of Othon II.
Conclusion: I have chosen to assign Englebert III's wife, Elisabeth, as the dau. of Leon II van de Aa and his wife Mathilde. I have also chosen to assign Englebert's children to her. GA Vaut.4,3,5,6,7
Family | Englebert III d'Enghien chevalier, seigneur d’Enghien, b. c 1150, d. bt 1193 - 1205 |
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Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRABANT,%20LOUVAIN.htm#_Toc3790761.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#EngelbertIIIEnghiendied1200
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Englebert III: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106867&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Maison d'Enghien: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maison_d%27Enghien. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison d’ Enghien, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Enghien.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 19 July 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#EngelbertIVEnghiendied1242
Leon II van de Aa1
M, #94837, d. between 1165 and 1168
Father | Leon I van de Aa1 d. a 1156 |
Reference | EDV26 |
Last Edited | 11 Nov 2020 |
Leon II van de Aa married Mathilde (?)1
Leon II van de Aa died between 1165 and 1168.1
EDV-26.
; Per Med Lands:
"LEON [II] van de Aa (-[1165/68]). "…Leonius et duo filii eius Anthonius et Leonius…" signed the charter dated 1145 under which "Godefridus…Dux et Marchio Lotharingiæ" donated property to Voorst abbey[951]. "Sigerus de Wauera, Leonius de A, Bernerus de Morcele..." witnessed the charter dated 1160 under which Godefroi III Duke of Brabant confirmed various donations to Affligem, including a donation made with the consent of "tam Bernerus quam filii eius Iwainus et Daniel"[952]. Nicolas Bishop of Cambrai confirmed that “sorore Hazeca” donated land “in Larbecca [Leerbeek]...mei patrimonii ab avis et proavis allodium...cum porcionem Hildegardis cum silva sorori sue Gertrudi” to Nivelles, in the presence of “domino Leonio filioque eius Waltero, meisque participibus”, decided “in die obitus Antonii mei cognati”, by charter dated 1161[953]. Leon is named as deceased in his son’s 1168 charter quoted below. His absence from his son’s 1165 charter suggests that he may already have been deceased at the time, unless he granted Pollare to Walter before his death.
"m MATHILDE, daughter of --- (-after 1175). “Galterus de Bruxella Anderlechtensis ecclesiæ præpositus et advocatus...Maheldis uxor Leonii de Bruxella” donated property to Anderlecht St. Pieter by charter dated 1175[954]. Her son’s donation was made jointly with “dnus Nicolaus de Boular”, suggesting a connection with the Boelare family (see the document FLANDERS NOBILITY). The presence of Walter’s mother suggests that Nikolaas derived his interest separately from her: maybe [Mathilde] and Nikolaas were cousins."
Med Lands cites:
Leon II van de Aa died between 1165 and 1168.1
EDV-26.
; Per Med Lands:
"LEON [II] van de Aa (-[1165/68]). "…Leonius et duo filii eius Anthonius et Leonius…" signed the charter dated 1145 under which "Godefridus…Dux et Marchio Lotharingiæ" donated property to Voorst abbey[951]. "Sigerus de Wauera, Leonius de A, Bernerus de Morcele..." witnessed the charter dated 1160 under which Godefroi III Duke of Brabant confirmed various donations to Affligem, including a donation made with the consent of "tam Bernerus quam filii eius Iwainus et Daniel"[952]. Nicolas Bishop of Cambrai confirmed that “sorore Hazeca” donated land “in Larbecca [Leerbeek]...mei patrimonii ab avis et proavis allodium...cum porcionem Hildegardis cum silva sorori sue Gertrudi” to Nivelles, in the presence of “domino Leonio filioque eius Waltero, meisque participibus”, decided “in die obitus Antonii mei cognati”, by charter dated 1161[953]. Leon is named as deceased in his son’s 1168 charter quoted below. His absence from his son’s 1165 charter suggests that he may already have been deceased at the time, unless he granted Pollare to Walter before his death.
"m MATHILDE, daughter of --- (-after 1175). “Galterus de Bruxella Anderlechtensis ecclesiæ præpositus et advocatus...Maheldis uxor Leonii de Bruxella” donated property to Anderlecht St. Pieter by charter dated 1175[954]. Her son’s donation was made jointly with “dnus Nicolaus de Boular”, suggesting a connection with the Boelare family (see the document FLANDERS NOBILITY). The presence of Walter’s mother suggests that Nikolaas derived his interest separately from her: maybe [Mathilde] and Nikolaas were cousins."
Med Lands cites:
[951] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, XLVII, p. 43.
[952] (10 Apr 2020).
[953] Compte Rendu des séances de la Commission Royale d’Histoire, Tome VII (Brussels, 1880), III Analectes et diplomatique, IX, p. 127.
[954] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, CIV, p. 711.1
[952]
[953] Compte Rendu des séances de la Commission Royale d’Histoire, Tome VII (Brussels, 1880), III Analectes et diplomatique, IX, p. 127.
[954] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, CIV, p. 711.1
Family | Mathilde (?) d. a 1175 |
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Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRABANT,%20LOUVAIN.htm#_Toc3790761. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Mathilde (?)1
F, #94838, d. after 1175
Last Edited | 31 Oct 2020 |
Mathilde (?) married Leon II van de Aa, son of Leon I van de Aa.1
Mathilde (?) died after 1175.1
; Per Med Lands:
"LEON [II] van de Aa (-[1165/68]). "…Leonius et duo filii eius Anthonius et Leonius…" signed the charter dated 1145 under which "Godefridus…Dux et Marchio Lotharingiæ" donated property to Voorst abbey[951]. "Sigerus de Wauera, Leonius de A, Bernerus de Morcele..." witnessed the charter dated 1160 under which Godefroi III Duke of Brabant confirmed various donations to Affligem, including a donation made with the consent of "tam Bernerus quam filii eius Iwainus et Daniel"[952]. Nicolas Bishop of Cambrai confirmed that “sorore Hazeca” donated land “in Larbecca [Leerbeek]...mei patrimonii ab avis et proavis allodium...cum porcionem Hildegardis cum silva sorori sue Gertrudi” to Nivelles, in the presence of “domino Leonio filioque eius Waltero, meisque participibus”, decided “in die obitus Antonii mei cognati”, by charter dated 1161[953]. Leon is named as deceased in his son’s 1168 charter quoted below. His absence from his son’s 1165 charter suggests that he may already have been deceased at the time, unless he granted Pollare to Walter before his death.
"m MATHILDE, daughter of --- (-after 1175). “Galterus de Bruxella Anderlechtensis ecclesiæ præpositus et advocatus...Maheldis uxor Leonii de Bruxella” donated property to Anderlecht St. Pieter by charter dated 1175[954]. Her son’s donation was made jointly with “dnus Nicolaus de Boular”, suggesting a connection with the Boelare family (see the document FLANDERS NOBILITY). The presence of Walter’s mother suggests that Nikolaas derived his interest separately from her: maybe [Mathilde] and Nikolaas were cousins."
Med Lands cites:
Mathilde (?) died after 1175.1
; Per Med Lands:
"LEON [II] van de Aa (-[1165/68]). "…Leonius et duo filii eius Anthonius et Leonius…" signed the charter dated 1145 under which "Godefridus…Dux et Marchio Lotharingiæ" donated property to Voorst abbey[951]. "Sigerus de Wauera, Leonius de A, Bernerus de Morcele..." witnessed the charter dated 1160 under which Godefroi III Duke of Brabant confirmed various donations to Affligem, including a donation made with the consent of "tam Bernerus quam filii eius Iwainus et Daniel"[952]. Nicolas Bishop of Cambrai confirmed that “sorore Hazeca” donated land “in Larbecca [Leerbeek]...mei patrimonii ab avis et proavis allodium...cum porcionem Hildegardis cum silva sorori sue Gertrudi” to Nivelles, in the presence of “domino Leonio filioque eius Waltero, meisque participibus”, decided “in die obitus Antonii mei cognati”, by charter dated 1161[953]. Leon is named as deceased in his son’s 1168 charter quoted below. His absence from his son’s 1165 charter suggests that he may already have been deceased at the time, unless he granted Pollare to Walter before his death.
"m MATHILDE, daughter of --- (-after 1175). “Galterus de Bruxella Anderlechtensis ecclesiæ præpositus et advocatus...Maheldis uxor Leonii de Bruxella” donated property to Anderlecht St. Pieter by charter dated 1175[954]. Her son’s donation was made jointly with “dnus Nicolaus de Boular”, suggesting a connection with the Boelare family (see the document FLANDERS NOBILITY). The presence of Walter’s mother suggests that Nikolaas derived his interest separately from her: maybe [Mathilde] and Nikolaas were cousins."
Med Lands cites:
[951] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, XLVII, p. 43.
[952] (10 Apr 2020).
[953] Compte Rendu des séances de la Commission Royale d’Histoire, Tome VII (Brussels, 1880), III Analectes et diplomatique, IX, p. 127.
[954] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, CIV, p. 711.1
[952]
[953] Compte Rendu des séances de la Commission Royale d’Histoire, Tome VII (Brussels, 1880), III Analectes et diplomatique, IX, p. 127.
[954] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, CIV, p. 711.1
Family | Leon II van de Aa d. bt 1165 - 1168 |
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Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRABANT,%20LOUVAIN.htm#_Toc3790761. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Leon I van de Aa1
M, #94839, d. after 1156
Reference | EDV27 |
Last Edited | 11 Nov 2020 |
Leon I van de Aa died after 1156.1
EDV-27.
; Per Med Lands:
"LEON [I] van de Aa/de Bruxelles, son of --- (-after 1156). Wauters records “Leonius de A” in a charter dated to [1130] (original charter not found)[941]. "Leonius de Brucsella..." witnessed the charter dated 1139 under which Sibylle Ctss of Flanders confirmed the donation of "duas partes decime...parrochye de Houthem" made to Furnes Saint-Nicolas by “Ywainum de Gandauo”[942]. "…Leonius et duo filii eius Anthonius et Leonius…" signed the charter dated 1145 under which "Godefridus…Dux et Marchio Lotharingiæ" donated property to Voorst abbey[943]. "Dominus Leonius cum filiis suis Bernerus de Morcella cum filiis suis Gerardus de Sottenghem cum filiis suis" renounced rights in the charter dated 1143 under which Godefroi Duke of Brabant, at the request of "domina Berta de Anderlecht..cum filiis suis Gerardo…Wilelmo et Arnulfo et duobus generis Waltero…de Crainhem, Oliverio de Gest, et Herardo de Hidengem qui sororem eius duxit uxorem", donated “allodii...inter Woluesem et Bygardis” to "ecclesiæ sanctæ Mariæ in Bigardis"[944]. "magnus Leonius de A, Walterus de Crainem, Rabodo frater eius..." witnessed the charter dated 1150 under which Godefroi III Duke of Brabant confirmed the sale of property "inter Beuerne et Strombeke" made to Grand-Bigard church by “Franconem...cognominatur Lupus assensu matris sue et fratris sui Wenemari”[945]. Heer van Pollare: “...Leonis de Pollar...” witnessed the charter dated 1154 under which Godefroi III Duke of Brabant confirmed the donation of “allodium infra parochyam Bocholt” made to Gand Saint-Bavon[946]. “...Leonus de Brusella, Anthonius filius eius...” witnessed the charter dated 1156 under which Henri Bishop of Liège confirmed the possessions of Vlierbeek abbey near Louvain[947].
"m ---. The name of Leon’s wife is not known. The logic explained below to justify the parentage of Elisabeth, wife of Engelbert [II] Seigneur d’Enghien, indicates that Walter van de Aa (grandson of Leon [I] and his wife) and Gisla (their daughter), together with Hildegarde (wife of Gerard [III] van Zotteghem, see below), all held Anderlecht, Dilbeke, Pede and Aa jointly, inherited (as a package) from one of Gisla’s parents. It is usually assumed that Leon [I] held Aa in his own right. If that is correct, all four properties were inherited from him. However, it is not impossible that Leon acquired his right to Aa through his wife which, if correct, means that all four properties would have been inherited by the Aa family from her. The following document shows that this last suggestion is a distinct possibility: Godefroi Duke of Brabant, at the request of "domina Berta de Anderlecht..cum filiis suis Gerardo…Wilelmo et Arnulfo et duobus generis Waltero…de Crainhem, Oliverio de Gest, et Herardo de Hidengem qui sororem eius duxit uxorem", donated “allodii...inter Woluesem et Bygardis” to "ecclesiæ sanctæ Mariæ in Bigardis" by charter dated 1143, which records that "dominus Leonius cum filiis suis Bernerus de Morcella cum filiis suis Gerardus de Sottenghem cum filiis suis" renounced rights[948]. The three last-named persons are all named “cum filiis suis”. If each had held the property interest in their own names, by inheritance from a common ancestor, the reference to their sons would have been unnecessary as their fathers would have represented their sons’ interests while still alive. If on the other hand, Leon, Berner and Gerard held the property by right of their wives, their sons would already have had direct interests as heirs of their mothers, which would justify their presence in the document. If this speculation is correct, Leon [I] married ---, daughter of ---. [See https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRABANT,%20LOUVAIN.htm#wifeLeonIAadied1156]"
Med Lands cites:
EDV-27.
; Per Med Lands:
"LEON [I] van de Aa/de Bruxelles, son of --- (-after 1156). Wauters records “Leonius de A” in a charter dated to [1130] (original charter not found)[941]. "Leonius de Brucsella..." witnessed the charter dated 1139 under which Sibylle Ctss of Flanders confirmed the donation of "duas partes decime...parrochye de Houthem" made to Furnes Saint-Nicolas by “Ywainum de Gandauo”[942]. "…Leonius et duo filii eius Anthonius et Leonius…" signed the charter dated 1145 under which "Godefridus…Dux et Marchio Lotharingiæ" donated property to Voorst abbey[943]. "Dominus Leonius cum filiis suis Bernerus de Morcella cum filiis suis Gerardus de Sottenghem cum filiis suis" renounced rights in the charter dated 1143 under which Godefroi Duke of Brabant, at the request of "domina Berta de Anderlecht..cum filiis suis Gerardo…Wilelmo et Arnulfo et duobus generis Waltero…de Crainhem, Oliverio de Gest, et Herardo de Hidengem qui sororem eius duxit uxorem", donated “allodii...inter Woluesem et Bygardis” to "ecclesiæ sanctæ Mariæ in Bigardis"[944]. "magnus Leonius de A, Walterus de Crainem, Rabodo frater eius..." witnessed the charter dated 1150 under which Godefroi III Duke of Brabant confirmed the sale of property "inter Beuerne et Strombeke" made to Grand-Bigard church by “Franconem...cognominatur Lupus assensu matris sue et fratris sui Wenemari”[945]. Heer van Pollare: “...Leonis de Pollar...” witnessed the charter dated 1154 under which Godefroi III Duke of Brabant confirmed the donation of “allodium infra parochyam Bocholt” made to Gand Saint-Bavon[946]. “...Leonus de Brusella, Anthonius filius eius...” witnessed the charter dated 1156 under which Henri Bishop of Liège confirmed the possessions of Vlierbeek abbey near Louvain[947].
"m ---. The name of Leon’s wife is not known. The logic explained below to justify the parentage of Elisabeth, wife of Engelbert [II] Seigneur d’Enghien, indicates that Walter van de Aa (grandson of Leon [I] and his wife) and Gisla (their daughter), together with Hildegarde (wife of Gerard [III] van Zotteghem, see below), all held Anderlecht, Dilbeke, Pede and Aa jointly, inherited (as a package) from one of Gisla’s parents. It is usually assumed that Leon [I] held Aa in his own right. If that is correct, all four properties were inherited from him. However, it is not impossible that Leon acquired his right to Aa through his wife which, if correct, means that all four properties would have been inherited by the Aa family from her. The following document shows that this last suggestion is a distinct possibility: Godefroi Duke of Brabant, at the request of "domina Berta de Anderlecht..cum filiis suis Gerardo…Wilelmo et Arnulfo et duobus generis Waltero…de Crainhem, Oliverio de Gest, et Herardo de Hidengem qui sororem eius duxit uxorem", donated “allodii...inter Woluesem et Bygardis” to "ecclesiæ sanctæ Mariæ in Bigardis" by charter dated 1143, which records that "dominus Leonius cum filiis suis Bernerus de Morcella cum filiis suis Gerardus de Sottenghem cum filiis suis" renounced rights[948]. The three last-named persons are all named “cum filiis suis”. If each had held the property interest in their own names, by inheritance from a common ancestor, the reference to their sons would have been unnecessary as their fathers would have represented their sons’ interests while still alive. If on the other hand, Leon, Berner and Gerard held the property by right of their wives, their sons would already have had direct interests as heirs of their mothers, which would justify their presence in the document. If this speculation is correct, Leon [I] married ---, daughter of ---. [See https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRABANT,%20LOUVAIN.htm#wifeLeonIAadied1156]"
Med Lands cites:
[941] Wauters (1855), Tome I, p. 4.
[942] (10 Apr 2020).
[943] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, XLVII, p. 43.
[944] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, XLVIII, p. 44.
[945] (10 Apr 2020).
[946] Serrure, C. P. (ed.) (1840) Cartulaire de Saint-Bavon à Gand (“Gand Saint-Bavon (1840)”), 35, p. 40.
[947] Analectes pour servir à l’histoire ecclésiastique de la Belgique, Tome I (Louvain, Brussels 1864), p. 360.
[948] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, XLVIII, p. 44.1
[942]
[943] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, XLVII, p. 43.
[944] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, XLVIII, p. 44.
[945]
[946] Serrure, C. P. (ed.) (1840) Cartulaire de Saint-Bavon à Gand (“Gand Saint-Bavon (1840)”), 35, p. 40.
[947] Analectes pour servir à l’histoire ecclésiastique de la Belgique, Tome I (Louvain, Brussels 1864), p. 360.
[948] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars I, XLVIII, p. 44.1
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Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRABANT,%20LOUVAIN.htm#_Toc3790761. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Berthold II von Istrien1
M, #94840
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2020 |
Family | |
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Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Gorz page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/small/gorz.html
Engiltrudis (?) d'Orléans1
F, #94841, b. between 825 and 830
Father | Matfried I (?) Comte d'Orléans1 d. a 1 Sep 836 |
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2020 |
Engiltrudis (?) d'Orléans was born between 825 and 830.1 She married Boson (?) Cte de Valois, son of Boson "l'Ancien" (?) Cte de Valois and Engeltrude (?) d'Amiens, between 845 and 850
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Her 1st (?) husband.1,2 Engiltrudis (?) d'Orléans married Wangar (?) after 856
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Her 2nd husband?1
; Per Med Lands:
"ENGELTRUDIS ([825/30]-). The Annales Fuldenses record that "Engildrudam filiam quondam Matifredi comite" left "Busone proprio viro" and wandered for seven years[261]. Regino names "Engildrudam quoque uxorem quondam Bosonis comitis" when recording her excommunication in 866 after deserting her husband and fleeing to France with "Wangerum suum vassallum"[262].
"m [firstly] ([845/50], deserted [856/57]) BOSO, son of --- (-[874/78]).
"[m] secondly WANGAR, son of ---."
Med Lands cites:
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Her 1st (?) husband.1,2 Engiltrudis (?) d'Orléans married Wangar (?) after 856
;
Her 2nd husband?1
; Per Med Lands:
"ENGELTRUDIS ([825/30]-). The Annales Fuldenses record that "Engildrudam filiam quondam Matifredi comite" left "Busone proprio viro" and wandered for seven years[261]. Regino names "Engildrudam quoque uxorem quondam Bosonis comitis" when recording her excommunication in 866 after deserting her husband and fleeing to France with "Wangerum suum vassallum"[262].
"m [firstly] ([845/50], deserted [856/57]) BOSO, son of --- (-[874/78]).
"[m] secondly WANGAR, son of ---."
Med Lands cites:
[261] Annales Fuldensium Pars Tertia, auctore incerto [863], MGH SS I, p. 376.
[262] Reginonis Chronicon 866, MGH SS I, p. 573.1
[262] Reginonis Chronicon 866, MGH SS I, p. 573.1
Family 1 | Boson (?) Cte de Valois b. bt 820 - 825, d. bt 874 - 878 |
Family 2 | Wangar (?) |
Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#EngeltrudisMBoso. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PROVENCE.htm#_Toc493842209
Wangar (?)1
M, #94842
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2020 |
Wangar (?) married Engiltrudis (?) d'Orléans, daughter of Matfried I (?) Comte d'Orléans, after 856
;
Her 2nd husband?1
; Per Med Lands:
"ENGELTRUDIS ([825/30]-). The Annales Fuldenses record that "Engildrudam filiam quondam Matifredi comite" left "Busone proprio viro" and wandered for seven years[261]. Regino names "Engildrudam quoque uxorem quondam Bosonis comitis" when recording her excommunication in 866 after deserting her husband and fleeing to France with "Wangerum suum vassallum"[262].
"m [firstly] ([845/50], deserted [856/57]) BOSO, son of --- (-[874/78]).
"[m] secondly WANGAR, son of ---."
Med Lands cites:
;
Her 2nd husband?1
; Per Med Lands:
"ENGELTRUDIS ([825/30]-). The Annales Fuldenses record that "Engildrudam filiam quondam Matifredi comite" left "Busone proprio viro" and wandered for seven years[261]. Regino names "Engildrudam quoque uxorem quondam Bosonis comitis" when recording her excommunication in 866 after deserting her husband and fleeing to France with "Wangerum suum vassallum"[262].
"m [firstly] ([845/50], deserted [856/57]) BOSO, son of --- (-[874/78]).
"[m] secondly WANGAR, son of ---."
Med Lands cites:
[261] Annales Fuldensium Pars Tertia, auctore incerto [863], MGH SS I, p. 376.
[262] Reginonis Chronicon 866, MGH SS I, p. 573.1
[262] Reginonis Chronicon 866, MGH SS I, p. 573.1
Family | Engiltrudis (?) d'Orléans b. bt 825 - 830 |
Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#EngeltrudisMBoso. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Matfried I (?) Comte d'Orléans1
M, #94843, d. after 1 September 836
Father | Unknown (?)1 |
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2020 |
Matfried I (?) Comte d'Orléans died after 1 September 836.1
; Per Med Lands:
"MATFRIED [I] (-836 after Sep 1). Emperor Louis I confirmed the donation by "Madephrido fideli nostro" of property of "Theodemarus…in pago Scarponensi", except that held by "Hartmannus comes", to the monastery of Gorze by charter dated 815[250]. Comte d'Orléans before [827]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Hugonem et Mathfridum comites" as missi of Pepin King of Aquitaine [in 827] but failed in their mission in Barcelona and Girona[251]. The Miracula Sancti Bernardi records that "Matfrido, comite quondam Aurelianensi" was deprived of his honours "culpam inertiæ" and "Odo" appointed in his place[252], presumably dated to [828]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that "Aurelianensem urbem" was taken from "Hodone" and restored to "Mathfrido" [in 830][253]. Thegan's Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that Emperor Louis was met at "Compendium" by "Pippinus filius eius cum magnatis primis patris sui…Hug et Matfrido…Gotefrido"[254]. The Annales Bertiniani record that "Mathfridus" took part in the rebellion in 832[255]. Nithard specifies that "Mathfrid" was one of the supporters of the rebellion of co-Emperor Lothaire I in 833/34, but was expelled from the Breton march by "Wido" and other supporters of Emperor Louis I[256]. The Annales Xantenses record that "Mahtfridum atque Landbertum, principes Lotharii consules" were captured and killed in 834[257]. The Annales Fuldenses record the rebellion of "Mahtfredo et Lantberto" in 834 and the battle in which "Udo comes Aurelianensium et Theodo abbas sancti Martini Turonensis" were killed[258]. Thegan's Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records the death in 836 of "Matfridus…qui erat maximus incentor"[259]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that "Wala Corbeiensis abbas, Matfridus, Hugo, Lantbertus, Godefridus, itemque filius eius Godefridus, Agimbertus comes Pertensis…sed et Richardus" died between "Kal Sep usque ad missam sancti Martini" [in 836][260].
"m ---. The name of Matfried's wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"MATFRIED [I] (-836 after Sep 1). Emperor Louis I confirmed the donation by "Madephrido fideli nostro" of property of "Theodemarus…in pago Scarponensi", except that held by "Hartmannus comes", to the monastery of Gorze by charter dated 815[250]. Comte d'Orléans before [827]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Hugonem et Mathfridum comites" as missi of Pepin King of Aquitaine [in 827] but failed in their mission in Barcelona and Girona[251]. The Miracula Sancti Bernardi records that "Matfrido, comite quondam Aurelianensi" was deprived of his honours "culpam inertiæ" and "Odo" appointed in his place[252], presumably dated to [828]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that "Aurelianensem urbem" was taken from "Hodone" and restored to "Mathfrido" [in 830][253]. Thegan's Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that Emperor Louis was met at "Compendium" by "Pippinus filius eius cum magnatis primis patris sui…Hug et Matfrido…Gotefrido"[254]. The Annales Bertiniani record that "Mathfridus" took part in the rebellion in 832[255]. Nithard specifies that "Mathfrid" was one of the supporters of the rebellion of co-Emperor Lothaire I in 833/34, but was expelled from the Breton march by "Wido" and other supporters of Emperor Louis I[256]. The Annales Xantenses record that "Mahtfridum atque Landbertum, principes Lotharii consules" were captured and killed in 834[257]. The Annales Fuldenses record the rebellion of "Mahtfredo et Lantberto" in 834 and the battle in which "Udo comes Aurelianensium et Theodo abbas sancti Martini Turonensis" were killed[258]. Thegan's Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records the death in 836 of "Matfridus…qui erat maximus incentor"[259]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that "Wala Corbeiensis abbas, Matfridus, Hugo, Lantbertus, Godefridus, itemque filius eius Godefridus, Agimbertus comes Pertensis…sed et Richardus" died between "Kal Sep usque ad missam sancti Martini" [in 836][260].
"m ---. The name of Matfried's wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
[250] RHGF VI, XXIX, p. 477.
[251] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 41, MGH SS II, p. 630.
[252] Miracula Sancti Benedicti, auctore Adrevaldo Monacho Floriacensi, Liber I, XX, p. 47.
[253] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 44 and 45, MGH SS II, p. 633.
[254] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 36, MGH SS II, p. 597.
[255] Annales Bertiniani I 832.
[256] Nithard I.5, p. 135, and McKitterick, R. (1983) Frankish Kingdoms under the Carolingians 751-987 (Longman, London and New York), p. 266.
[257] Annales Xantenses 834, MGH SS II, p. 226.
[258] Annales Fuldenses 834, MGH SS I, p. 360.
[259] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 55, MGH SS II, p. 602.
[260] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 56, MGH SS II, p. 642.1
[251] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 41, MGH SS II, p. 630.
[252] Miracula Sancti Benedicti, auctore Adrevaldo Monacho Floriacensi, Liber I, XX, p. 47.
[253] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 44 and 45, MGH SS II, p. 633.
[254] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 36, MGH SS II, p. 597.
[255] Annales Bertiniani I 832.
[256] Nithard I.5, p. 135, and McKitterick, R. (1983) Frankish Kingdoms under the Carolingians 751-987 (Longman, London and New York), p. 266.
[257] Annales Xantenses 834, MGH SS II, p. 226.
[258] Annales Fuldenses 834, MGH SS I, p. 360.
[259] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 55, MGH SS II, p. 602.
[260] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 56, MGH SS II, p. 642.1
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Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#EngeltrudisMBoso. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Unknown (?)1
M, #94844
Reference | GAV35 |
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2020 |
GAV-33.
Family | |
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Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#EngeltrudisMBoso. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Unknown (?)
M, #94845
Father | Unknown (?) |
Reference | GAV32 |
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2020 |
GAV-32.
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Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#MatfriedIIdied882. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Matfried II (?) Graf von Eifel1
M, #94846, b. 820, d. after 18 September 882
Father | Unknown (?)1 |
Reference | GAV-31 |
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2020 |
Matfried II (?) Graf von Eifel was born in 820.1
Matfried II (?) Graf von Eifel died after 18 September 882.1
; Per Med Lands:
"MATFRIED [II] ([820]-after 18 Sep 882). A close family connection between Matfried [II] and Matfried [I] is suggested by the name. This is confirmed by the letter dated 878 from Pope John VIII to "Mactefrido illustri comiti" referring to Engeltrud wife of Boso (who was the daughter of Matfried [I]) as "proxime vestre"[263], although this wording suggests a more remote relationship than father and son. "Hlotharius…imperator augustus" granted property "in pago Lugdunense" to "cuidam vassallo…Immoni", at the request of "Matfredus…comes vel ministerialis noster", by charter dated 15 Dec 843[264]. Graf von Eifel: "Hlotharius…imperator augustus" granted property "in pago Eiflense…in villa…Bettinga" to "cuidam fideli nostro Fulcrado", at the request of "Matfridus…ministerialis noster", by charter dated 17 Feb 844[265]. "Hlotharius…imperator augustus" granted property "in pago Riboariense in comitatu Iuliacense" to "vassallo…Matfredi…comitis, Hrotgario", at the request of "ministerialis nostri Matfridi…comitis", by charter dated 7 May 846[266]. "Hlotharius…imperator augustus" donated property "in pago Eiflinse in comitatu Matfridi" to Kloster Prüm by charter dated 28 Jan 855[267]. "Hlotharius…rex" donated property "in pago Eiflinse in comitatu Matfridi" at the request of "Adalardus et Matfridus…comites" to "vassallo præfati Matfridi Otberto" by charter dated 28 Jun 856[268]. An agreement between Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks and his brother Ludwig II "der Deutsche" King of the East Franks dated Jun 860 names "nobilis ac fidelibus laicis…Chuonradus, Evrardus, Adalardus, Arnustus, Warnarius, Liutfridus, Hruodolfus, Erkingarius, Gislebertus, Ratbodus, Arnulfus, Hugo, item Chuonradus, Liutharius, Berengarius, Matfridus, Boso, Sigeri, Hartmannus, Liuthardus, Richuinus, Wigricus, Hunfridus, Bernoldus, Hatto, Adalbertus, Burchardus, Christianus, Leutulfus, Hessi, Herimannus, item Hruodulfus, Sigehardus"[269]. An agreement dated 14 Jun 877 of Emperor Charles II "le Chauve", presumably written with his own death in mind, names "Arnulfus comes, Gislebertus, Letardus, Matfridus, Widricus, Gotbertus, Adalbertus, Ingelgerus, Rainerus" as those willing to support the emperor's son if he travels across the Meuse[270]. Pope John VIII wrote a letter to "Mactefrido illustri comiti" dated 878 referring to the property of the two daughters of Count Boso in upper Italy & his wife Engeltrud "proxime vestre"[271]. "Hildebertus filius quondam Berengarii comitis" donated property "res…mee in comitatu Vuabrinse prope fluvio…Cherus villam…Beuram" for "germano meo Berengario" to Verdun Sainte-Vanne by charter dated 18 Sep 882, subscribed by "Stephanus comes, Matfridus comes, Witpertus comes"[272].
"m ---. The name of Matfried's wife is not known.]"
Med Lands cites:
Matfried II (?) Graf von Eifel died after 18 September 882.1
; Per Med Lands:
"MATFRIED [II] ([820]-after 18 Sep 882). A close family connection between Matfried [II] and Matfried [I] is suggested by the name. This is confirmed by the letter dated 878 from Pope John VIII to "Mactefrido illustri comiti" referring to Engeltrud wife of Boso (who was the daughter of Matfried [I]) as "proxime vestre"[263], although this wording suggests a more remote relationship than father and son. "Hlotharius…imperator augustus" granted property "in pago Lugdunense" to "cuidam vassallo…Immoni", at the request of "Matfredus…comes vel ministerialis noster", by charter dated 15 Dec 843[264]. Graf von Eifel: "Hlotharius…imperator augustus" granted property "in pago Eiflense…in villa…Bettinga" to "cuidam fideli nostro Fulcrado", at the request of "Matfridus…ministerialis noster", by charter dated 17 Feb 844[265]. "Hlotharius…imperator augustus" granted property "in pago Riboariense in comitatu Iuliacense" to "vassallo…Matfredi…comitis, Hrotgario", at the request of "ministerialis nostri Matfridi…comitis", by charter dated 7 May 846[266]. "Hlotharius…imperator augustus" donated property "in pago Eiflinse in comitatu Matfridi" to Kloster Prüm by charter dated 28 Jan 855[267]. "Hlotharius…rex" donated property "in pago Eiflinse in comitatu Matfridi" at the request of "Adalardus et Matfridus…comites" to "vassallo præfati Matfridi Otberto" by charter dated 28 Jun 856[268]. An agreement between Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks and his brother Ludwig II "der Deutsche" King of the East Franks dated Jun 860 names "nobilis ac fidelibus laicis…Chuonradus, Evrardus, Adalardus, Arnustus, Warnarius, Liutfridus, Hruodolfus, Erkingarius, Gislebertus, Ratbodus, Arnulfus, Hugo, item Chuonradus, Liutharius, Berengarius, Matfridus, Boso, Sigeri, Hartmannus, Liuthardus, Richuinus, Wigricus, Hunfridus, Bernoldus, Hatto, Adalbertus, Burchardus, Christianus, Leutulfus, Hessi, Herimannus, item Hruodulfus, Sigehardus"[269]. An agreement dated 14 Jun 877 of Emperor Charles II "le Chauve", presumably written with his own death in mind, names "Arnulfus comes, Gislebertus, Letardus, Matfridus, Widricus, Gotbertus, Adalbertus, Ingelgerus, Rainerus" as those willing to support the emperor's son if he travels across the Meuse[270]. Pope John VIII wrote a letter to "Mactefrido illustri comiti" dated 878 referring to the property of the two daughters of Count Boso in upper Italy & his wife Engeltrud "proxime vestre"[271]. "Hildebertus filius quondam Berengarii comitis" donated property "res…mee in comitatu Vuabrinse prope fluvio…Cherus villam…Beuram" for "germano meo Berengario" to Verdun Sainte-Vanne by charter dated 18 Sep 882, subscribed by "Stephanus comes, Matfridus comes, Witpertus comes"[272].
"m ---. The name of Matfried's wife is not known.]"
Med Lands cites:
[263] MGH Epistola VII 111, p. 102, and 129, p. 114, quoted in Hlawitschka (1969), p. 159. .
[264] D Lo I 83, p. 204.
[265] D Lo I 84, p. 206 (marked "Verunechtet?" in the compilation).
[266] D Lo I 96, p. 233.
[267] D Lo I 137, p. 307.
[268] D Lo II 5, p. 389.
[269] Adnuntatio domni Karoli, MGH LL 1, p. 469.
[270] Karoli II Imp. Conventus Carisiacensis, MGH LL 1, p. 537.
[271] MGH Epistola VII 111, p. 102, and 129, p. 114, quoted in Hlawitschka (1969), p. 159. .
[272] Verdun Sainte-Vanne (1898), p. 384.1
GAV-31.[264] D Lo I 83, p. 204.
[265] D Lo I 84, p. 206 (marked "Verunechtet?" in the compilation).
[266] D Lo I 96, p. 233.
[267] D Lo I 137, p. 307.
[268] D Lo II 5, p. 389.
[269] Adnuntatio domni Karoli, MGH LL 1, p. 469.
[270] Karoli II Imp. Conventus Carisiacensis, MGH LL 1, p. 537.
[271] MGH Epistola VII 111, p. 102, and 129, p. 114, quoted in Hlawitschka (1969), p. 159. .
[272] Verdun Sainte-Vanne (1898), p. 384.1
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Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#MatfriedIIdied882. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#dauMatfriedIIMAdalhardII
Unknown (?)1
F, #94847
Father | Matfried II (?) Graf von Eifel1 b. 820, d. a 18 Sep 882 |
Reference | GAV30 |
Last Edited | 21 Jul 2020 |
Unknown (?) married Adalhard IV (?) Graf von Metz, son of Adalhard III (?).1,2
; Per Med Lands:
"ADALHARD [IV], son of [ADALHARD [III] & his wife ---] (-[2 Jan] 890). The primary source which identifies Adalhard [IV] as the son of Adalhard [III] has not yet been identified. However, the Catalogus abbatem Epternacensium names "Adelardus iunior comes" as [lay] abbot of Echternach in 878 until 890, suggesting that he may have had the same name as his father[783]. "Hludowicus…rex" confirmed a donation of property "in pago Muselahgeuui in comitatu Adalhardi villam…Berge" to Kloster Fulda by charter dated 24 Jul 880[784]. Emperor Karl III granted property "in Weitereiba in comitatu Adalhardi ad Rosbach" to Kloster Fulda by charter dated 7 Apr 884[785]. The Liber Memorialis of Remiremont records the death "IV Non Jan" of "Adellardus"[786], although it is not certain that this refers to Adalhard [IV]. Hlawitschka suggests that Adelhard [IV] married ---, [daughter of Matfried [II] & his wife ---], or daughter of Matfried's sister and that the couple were the parents of the three brothers Gebhard and Matfried Counts of Metz and Richer Bishop of Verdun[787].]
"Five possible children: No source has yet been identified which names the parents of the following five brothers. The fact that one is named Matfried suggests a close family relationship with Adalhard [IV] and his wife, assuming that she was the daughter of Matfried [II]. A descent from Adalhard [IV] is also suggested by the common use of the names Stefan and Gerhard in the two families. While the various sources quoted below establish that all five were brothers, no source has been found which indicates that they all shared the same mother (see the discussion about the possible distinction between the terms “fratres” and “germani” under Walacho, below)."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"[daughter . Hlawitschka suggests that Adelhard [II] married a daughter of Matfried [II] or of his sister and that the couple were the parents of the three brothers Gebhard and Matfried Counts of Metz and Richer Bishop of Verdun[273]. This would certainly explain the transmission of the name Matfried into the family of the counts of Metz but there appears to be no other indication that the theory might be correct.
"m ADALHARD [II], son of ADALHARD [I] & his wife --- (-2 Jan 890). The Catalogus abbatem Epternacensium names "Adelardus iunior comes" as [lay] abbot of Echternach in 878 until 890[274]. The Liber Memorialis of Remiremont records the death "IV Non Jan" of "Adellardus"[275], although it is not certain that this is the same Adelhard.] "
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"ADALHARD [IV], son of [ADALHARD [III] & his wife ---] (-[2 Jan] 890). The primary source which identifies Adalhard [IV] as the son of Adalhard [III] has not yet been identified. However, the Catalogus abbatem Epternacensium names "Adelardus iunior comes" as [lay] abbot of Echternach in 878 until 890, suggesting that he may have had the same name as his father[783]. "Hludowicus…rex" confirmed a donation of property "in pago Muselahgeuui in comitatu Adalhardi villam…Berge" to Kloster Fulda by charter dated 24 Jul 880[784]. Emperor Karl III granted property "in Weitereiba in comitatu Adalhardi ad Rosbach" to Kloster Fulda by charter dated 7 Apr 884[785]. The Liber Memorialis of Remiremont records the death "IV Non Jan" of "Adellardus"[786], although it is not certain that this refers to Adalhard [IV]. Hlawitschka suggests that Adelhard [IV] married ---, [daughter of Matfried [II] & his wife ---], or daughter of Matfried's sister and that the couple were the parents of the three brothers Gebhard and Matfried Counts of Metz and Richer Bishop of Verdun[787].]
"Five possible children: No source has yet been identified which names the parents of the following five brothers. The fact that one is named Matfried suggests a close family relationship with Adalhard [IV] and his wife, assuming that she was the daughter of Matfried [II]. A descent from Adalhard [IV] is also suggested by the common use of the names Stefan and Gerhard in the two families. While the various sources quoted below establish that all five were brothers, no source has been found which indicates that they all shared the same mother (see the discussion about the possible distinction between the terms “fratres” and “germani” under Walacho, below)."
Med Lands cites:
[783] Catalogus abbatem Epternacensium MGH SS XXIII, p. 31 and MGH SS XIII, pp. 739 and 741.
[784] D LJ 17, p. 356.
[785] D Karl 97, p. 157.
[786] Hlawitschka, E. (ed.) (1970) Liber Memorialis de Remiremont (Berlin, MGH), quoted in Hlawitschka, E. (1969) Die Anfänge des Hauses Habsburg-Lothringen, Genealogische Untersuchungen zur Geschichte Lothringens und des Reiches im 9. 10 and 11 Jahrhundert (Saarbrücken), p. 72.
[787] Hlawitschka (1969), p. 168.3
GAV-30. [784] D LJ 17, p. 356.
[785] D Karl 97, p. 157.
[786] Hlawitschka, E. (ed.) (1970) Liber Memorialis de Remiremont (Berlin, MGH), quoted in Hlawitschka, E. (1969) Die Anfänge des Hauses Habsburg-Lothringen, Genealogische Untersuchungen zur Geschichte Lothringens und des Reiches im 9. 10 and 11 Jahrhundert (Saarbrücken), p. 72.
[787] Hlawitschka (1969), p. 168.3
; Per Med Lands:
"[daughter . Hlawitschka suggests that Adelhard [II] married a daughter of Matfried [II] or of his sister and that the couple were the parents of the three brothers Gebhard and Matfried Counts of Metz and Richer Bishop of Verdun[273]. This would certainly explain the transmission of the name Matfried into the family of the counts of Metz but there appears to be no other indication that the theory might be correct.
"m ADALHARD [II], son of ADALHARD [I] & his wife --- (-2 Jan 890). The Catalogus abbatem Epternacensium names "Adelardus iunior comes" as [lay] abbot of Echternach in 878 until 890[274]. The Liber Memorialis of Remiremont records the death "IV Non Jan" of "Adellardus"[275], although it is not certain that this is the same Adelhard.] "
Med Lands cites:
[273] Hlawitschka, E. (1969) Die Anfänge des Hauses Habsburg-Lothringen, Genealogische Untersuchungen zur Geschichte Lothringens und des Reiches im 9. 10 and 11 Jahrhundert (Saarbrücken), p. 168.
[274] Catalogus abbatem Epternacensium MGH SS XXIII, p. 31 and MGH SS XIII, pp. 739 and 741.
[275] Liber Memorialis de Remiremont, quoted in Hlawitschka (1969), p. 72.1
[274] Catalogus abbatem Epternacensium MGH SS XXIII, p. 31 and MGH SS XIII, pp. 739 and 741.
[275] Liber Memorialis de Remiremont, quoted in Hlawitschka (1969), p. 72.1
Family | Adalhard IV (?) Graf von Metz d. 2 Jan 890 |
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Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#dauMatfriedIIMAdalhardII. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(UPPER)%20NOBILITY.htm#AdelhardIIdied890
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(UPPER)%20NOBILITY.htm#AdelhardIIdied890
Unknown (?)1
F, #94848
Reference | GAV24 |
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2020 |
Unknown (?) married Sir Roger de Leyburn of Elham, son of Sir Robert de Leyburn of Leybourne, Kent and Eleanor de Thurnham,
;
His 1st wife.1
GAV-24.
;
His 1st wife.1
GAV-24.
Family | Sir Roger de Leyburn of Elham b. c 1215, d. c Oct 1271 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00733904&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Leyburn: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00518125&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Simon de Leybourne.
Sir Robert de Leyburn of Leybourne, Kent1,2
M, #94849, b. between 1182 and 1190, d. before 1251
Reference | GAV25 |
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2020 |
Sir Robert de Leyburn of Leybourne, Kent married Eleanor de Thurnham, daughter of Stephen de Thurnham of Thornham, co. Kent.1
Sir Robert de Leyburn of Leybourne, Kent was born between 1182 and 1190.2
Sir Robert de Leyburn of Leybourne, Kent died before 1251.2
GAV-25.
Sir Robert de Leyburn of Leybourne, Kent was born between 1182 and 1190.2
Sir Robert de Leyburn of Leybourne, Kent died before 1251.2
GAV-25.
Family | Eleanor de Thurnham d. bt 1219 - 1220 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#EleanorFerrersdied1274. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2286] Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, online http://oxforddnb.com/index/, https://doi.org/10.1093/ref:odnb/16624. Hereinafter cited as ODNB - Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.
Eleanor de Thurnham1
F, #94850, d. between 1219 and 1220
Father | Stephen de Thurnham of Thornham, co. Kent2 d. bt 1213 - 1214 |
Reference | GAV25 |
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2020 |
Eleanor de Thurnham married Sir Robert de Leyburn of Leybourne, Kent.1
Eleanor de Thurnham died between 1219 and 1220.2
GAV-25.
Eleanor de Thurnham died between 1219 and 1220.2
GAV-25.
Family | Sir Robert de Leyburn of Leybourne, Kent b. bt 1182 - 1190, d. b 1251 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#EleanorFerrersdied1274. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2286] Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, online http://oxforddnb.com/index/, https://doi.org/10.1093/ref:odnb/16624. Hereinafter cited as ODNB - Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.
Sir Simon de Leybourne1
M, #94851, d. 1315
Father | Sir Roger de Leyburn of Elham1 b. c 1215, d. c Oct 1271 |
Mother | Unknown (?)1 |
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2020 |
Sir Simon de Leybourne died in 1315 at St. Mary's Churchyard, Shropshire, Shropshire Unitary Authority, Shropshire, England; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 1315, England
A crusader in the ninth crusade 1271-1272
BURIAL St. Mary's Churchyard, Shrewsbury, Shropshire Unitary Authority, Shropshire, England
Created by: Kat
Added: 25 Sep 2013
Find a Grave Memorial 117617785.2
Reference: Genealogics cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 7:640.3 Sir Simon de Leybourne was also known as Sir Simon de Leyburn.1 He was Crusader - 9th Crusade between 1271 and 1272.2
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 1315, England
A crusader in the ninth crusade 1271-1272
BURIAL St. Mary's Churchyard, Shrewsbury, Shropshire Unitary Authority, Shropshire, England
Created by: Kat
Added: 25 Sep 2013
Find a Grave Memorial 117617785.2
Reference: Genealogics cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 7:640.3 Sir Simon de Leybourne was also known as Sir Simon de Leyburn.1 He was Crusader - 9th Crusade between 1271 and 1272.2
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Simon de Leybourne. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 20 July 2020), memorial page for Sir Simon de Leybourne (unknown–1315), Find a Grave Memorial no. 117617785, citing St. Mary's Churchyard, Shrewsbury, Shropshire Unitary Authority, Shropshire, England; Maintained by Kat (contributor 47496397), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/117617785. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Simon de Leybourne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00497347&tree=LEO
Stephen de Thurnham of Thornham, co. Kent1
M, #94852, d. between 1213 and 1214
Father | Robert de Thurnham of Thornham, co. Kent |
Reference | GAV26 |
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2020 |
Stephen de Thurnham of Thornham, co. Kent died between 1213 and 1214.1
GAV-26.
; This is the same person as ”Thornham [Turnham], Stephen of” at the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.2 Stephen de Thurnham of Thornham, co. Kent was also known as Stephen Thornham.2 Stephen de Thurnham of Thornham, co. Kent was also known as Stephen Turnham.2
GAV-26.
; This is the same person as ”Thornham [Turnham], Stephen of” at the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.2 Stephen de Thurnham of Thornham, co. Kent was also known as Stephen Thornham.2 Stephen de Thurnham of Thornham, co. Kent was also known as Stephen Turnham.2
Family | |
Child |
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Citations
- [S2286] Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, online http://oxforddnb.com/index/, https://doi.org/10.1093/ref:odnb/16624. Hereinafter cited as ODNB - Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.
- [S2286] ODNB - Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, online http://oxforddnb.com/index/, https://doi.org/10.1093/ref:odnb/27885
Robert de Thurnham of Thornham, co. Kent
M, #94853
Reference | GAV27 |
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2020 |
GAV-27.
Family | |
Child |
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Aesa (?)1
F, #94854
Last Edited | 19 Oct 2020 |
; Per Med Lands: "Mistress (1) [of SVEND Haraldsen]: [AESA], daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified."1
Family | Svend I Haraldsen Tveskæg/Forkbeard' (?) King of Denmark and England b. c 960, d. a 3 Feb 1014 |
Child |
Citations
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/DENMARK.htm#GydaSvendsdMEirikHakonsson. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gyda Svendsdatter of Denmark: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079512&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
Grjolgard Herlaugsson (?) Ladejarl1
M, #94855
Father | Jarl Herlaug Haraldsson (?)1 |
Reference | GAV33 |
Last Edited | 21 Jul 2020 |
; This is the same person as ”Grjotgard Herlaugsson” at Wikipedia (NO).2 GAV-33.
Family | |
Child |
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Citations
- [S4783] Wikipedia - Die frie encyklopædi, online https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forside, Håkon jarl: https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A5kon_jarl. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia (DK).
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Grjotgard Herlaugsson: https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grjotgard_Herlaugsson. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Håkon Grjotgardsson Ladejarl: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00141510&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Grjotgard Herlaugsson Lade: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00572482&tree=LEO
Jarl Herlaug Haraldsson (?)1
M, #94856
Father | Haral Tondsson "Naumdølajarl" (?)1 |
Reference | GAV34 |
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2020 |
GAV-34.
Family | |
Child |
Citations
- [S4783] Wikipedia - Die frie encyklopædi, online https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forside, Håkon jarl: https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A5kon_jarl. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia (DK).
Haral Tondsson "Naumdølajarl" (?)1
M, #94857
Reference | GAV35 |
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2020 |
GAV-35.
Family | |
Child |
Citations
- [S4783] Wikipedia - Die frie encyklopædi, online https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forside, Håkon jarl: https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A5kon_jarl. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia (DK).
Thyrni Haraldsdatter (?)1,2,3
F, #94858
Father | Harold Klak (?) of Jutland4,3,2 b. c 785 |
Reference | GAV34 |
Last Edited | 30 Aug 2020 |
Thyrni Haraldsdatter (?) married Sigurd Hjort Helgasson (?) King of Ringerike, son of Aslaug (?).1
GAV-34.
GAV-34.
Citations
- [S4783] Wikipedia - Die frie encyklopædi, online https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forside, Håkon jarl: https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A5kon_jarl. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia (DK).
- [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 243A-16, p. 220. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORWAY.htm#_Toc360005216. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S4783] Wikipedia (DK), online https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forside, Harald Klak: https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_Klak
Ingeborg Thorkelsdatter (?)1
F, #94859
Father | Thorkel Leira (?)1 |
Last Edited | 30 Oct 2020 |
Family | Vagn Ageson (?) |
Child |
Citations
- [S4783] Wikipedia - Die frie encyklopædi, online https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forside, Thorgunna Vagnsdatter: https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorgunna_Vagnsdatter. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia (DK).
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thorgunna Vagnsdatter: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079489&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
Thorkel Leira (?)1
M, #94860
Last Edited | 3 Nov 2020 |
Family | |
Child |
Citations
- [S4783] Wikipedia - Die frie encyklopædi, online https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forside, Thorgunna Vagnsdatter: https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorgunna_Vagnsdatter. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia (DK).