Adhémar (?) Comte de Valence1,2,3

M, #62011, b. before 985, d. after 1037
FatherLambert (?) Comte de Valence7,6,8,9 b. c 940, d. a 985
MotherFalectrude (?)4,5,6 d. a 985
Last Edited27 Nov 2020
     Adhémar (?) Comte de Valence married Roteldis (?)8,10,6 Adhémar (?) Comte de Valence was born before 985.1
Adhémar (?) Comte de Valence died after 1037.3
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 820.4

; Per Med Lands:
     "ADEMAR (-after 1037). "Lambertus episcopus" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Chaffre with the consent of "Ademaro comite" by charter dated 14 Mar 1011[613].
     "m ROTILDE, daughter of ---. "Ademarus comes [Valentinensis] [et] Roteldis uxor mea" confirmed the donations to Cluny by his father by charter dated 1037 jointly with "filii nostri Pontio episcopo, Ugone, Lamberto, Gontardo, Geraldo"[614]."
Med Lands cites:
[613] Saint-Chaffre CCCXIV, p. 106.
[614] Cluny, Tome IV, 2821, p. 122.8


; Per Genealogy.EU (Adhémar de Monteil): “Adhémar fl 957+ après 1037 comte de Valence (985)
     ép. Roteldis de Valence + après 1037”.6 He was living in 985.4 He was comte de Valence in 985.2

Family

Roteldis (?) b. b 1037, d. a 1037
Children

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ademar: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196954&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Adhemar-de-Monteil.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille d’ Adhémar de Monteil alias d’Azémar, p. 2.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adémar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196954&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Falectrude: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196957&tree=LEO
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille d’ Adhémar de Monteil alias d’Azémar, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Adhemar-de-Monteil.pdf
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ademar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196954&tree=LEO
  8. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provvaldi.htm#_Toc28766339. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lambert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196956&tree=LEO
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Roteldis: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196955&tree=LEO
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues de Valence: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196951&tree=LEO
  12. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provvaldi.htm#HuguesValenceB

Falectrude (?)1

F, #62012, d. after 985
Last Edited29 Jul 2020
     Falectrude (?) married Lambert (?) Comte de Valence, son of Gontard (?) and Ermengarde (?).1,2,3,4
Falectrude (?) died after 985.5,6
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 820.7

; Per Med Lands:
     "LAMBERT (-after 27 Jun 985). "Lambertus comes" donated property "in pago Diensi…rivo qui dicitur Andria usque ad villam Sincana" to the abbey of Saint-Chaffre by charter dated [960/61][610]. "Lanbertus et uxor mea Falectrudis" donated property at Félines ("Fellinis") in the county of Valence for the construction of the monastery of Saint-Marcel, for the souls of "patris mei Guntardi et matre mea Ermengarda", and "pro filiis nostris Ademaro et Lanberto", by charter dated 27 Jun 985, confirmed by charter of "Chuonradus rex" dated 985[611].
     "m FALECTRUDIS, daughter of ---. "Lanbertus et uxor mea Falectrudis" donated property at Félines ("Fellinis") in the county of Valence for the construction of the monastery of Saint-Marcel by charter dated 27 Jun 985, confirmed by charter of "Chuonradus rex" dated 985[612]."
Med Lands cites:
[610] Saint-Chaffre CCCXXIV, p. 110.
[611] Cluny, Tome II, 1715 and 1716, pp. 735-755.
[612] Cluny, Tome II, 1715 and 1716, pp. 735-755.4


; Per Genealogy.EU (Adhémar de Monteil): “Lambert (moine à Saint-Marcel de Félines en 985) comte de Valence (26) (962)
     ép. Falectrude + après 985”.3

Family

Lambert (?) Comte de Valence b. c 940, d. a 985
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Falectrude: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196957&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lambert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196956&tree=LEO
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille d’ Adhémar de Monteil alias d’Azémar, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Adhemar-de-Monteil.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provvaldi.htm#_Toc28766339. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Adhemar-de-Monteil.pdf, p. 2.
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille d’ Adhémar de Monteil alias d’Azémar, p. 2.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Falectrude: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196957&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adémar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196954&tree=LEO

Lambert (?) Comte de Valence1,2

M, #62013, b. circa 940, d. after 985
FatherGontard (?)4,5,1,2
MotherErmengarde (?)3,2,1
Last Edited8 Aug 2020
     Lambert (?) Comte de Valence married Falectrude (?)6,1,2,5 Lambert (?) Comte de Valence was born circa 940.1
Lambert (?) Comte de Valence died after 985.1
     ; Per Genealogics:
     “Lambert, comte de Valence, son of Gontard and Ermengarde, married Falectrude. He was mentioned in 962 and in 985 founded the convent of Saint Marcel de Félines,”.1

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 820.1

; Per Genealogy.EU (Adhémar de Monteil): “Lambert (moine à Saint-Marcel de Félines en 985) comte de Valence (26) (962)
     ép. Falectrude + après 985”.2

; Per Med Lands:
     "LAMBERT (-after 27 Jun 985). "Lambertus comes" donated property "in pago Diensi…rivo qui dicitur Andria usque ad villam Sincana" to the abbey of Saint-Chaffre by charter dated [960/61][610]. "Lanbertus et uxor mea Falectrudis" donated property at Félines ("Fellinis") in the county of Valence for the construction of the monastery of Saint-Marcel, for the souls of "patris mei Guntardi et matre mea Ermengarda", and "pro filiis nostris Ademaro et Lanberto", by charter dated 27 Jun 985, confirmed by charter of "Chuonradus rex" dated 985[611].
     "m FALECTRUDIS, daughter of ---. "Lanbertus et uxor mea Falectrudis" donated property at Félines ("Fellinis") in the county of Valence for the construction of the monastery of Saint-Marcel by charter dated 27 Jun 985, confirmed by charter of "Chuonradus rex" dated 985[612]."
Med Lands cites:
[610] Saint-Chaffre CCCXXIV, p. 110.
[611] Cluny, Tome II, 1715 and 1716, pp. 735-755.
[612] Cluny, Tome II, 1715 and 1716, pp. 735-755.5
He was living in 962.1,2

; In 985 he founded the convent of Saint Marcel de Félines.7

Family

Falectrude (?) d. a 985
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lambert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196956&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille d’ Adhémar de Monteil alias d’Azémar, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Adhemar-de-Monteil.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermengarde: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196959&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gontard: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196958&tree=LEO
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provvaldi.htm#_Toc28766339. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Falectrude: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196957&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lambert: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196956&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ademar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196954&tree=LEO

Ermengarde (?)1

F, #62014
Last Edited29 Jul 2020
     Ermengarde (?) married Gontard (?)2,3,4
     ; Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 820.4

; Per Med Lands:
     "GONTARD . m ERMENGARDE ---. "Lanbertus et uxor mea Falectrudis" donated property at Félines ("Fellinis") in the county of Valence for the construction of the monastery of Saint-Marcel, for the souls of "patris mei Guntardi et matre mea Ermengarda", by charter dated 27 Jun 985, confirmed by charter of "Chuonradus rex" dated 985[609]."
Med Lands cites:
[609] Cluny, Tome II, 1715 and 1716, pp. 735-755.5

Family

Gontard (?)
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermengarde: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196959&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille d’ Adhémar de Monteil alias d’Azémar, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Adhemar-de-Monteil.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gontard: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196958&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermengarde: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196959&tree=LEO
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provvaldi.htm#_Toc28766339. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lambert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196956&tree=LEO

Gontard (?)1,2,3

M, #62015
Last Edited29 Jul 2020
     Gontard (?) married Ermengarde (?)4,5,6
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 820.5

; Per Med Lands:
     "GONTARD . m ERMENGARDE ---. "Lanbertus et uxor mea Falectrudis" donated property at Félines ("Fellinis") in the county of Valence for the construction of the monastery of Saint-Marcel, for the souls of "patris mei Guntardi et matre mea Ermengarda", by charter dated 27 Jun 985, confirmed by charter of "Chuonradus rex" dated 985[609]."
Med Lands cites:
[609] Cluny, Tome II, 1715 and 1716, pp. 735-755.7

Family

Ermengarde (?)
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gontard: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196958&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Adhemar-de-Monteil.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille d’ Adhémar de Monteil alias d’Azémar, p. 2.
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille d’ Adhémar de Monteil alias d’Azémar, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Adhemar-de-Monteil.pdf
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gontard: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196958&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermengarde: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196959&tree=LEO
  7. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provvaldi.htm#_Toc28766339. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lambert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196956&tree=LEO

Raimbaud II (?) Comte d'Orange1,2

M, #62016, d. circa 1121
FatherBertrand Raimbaud II (?) Vicomte de Nice-Orange4,3,1
MotherAdélaïde de Cavenez3,2 d. a 12 Oct 1113
Last Edited13 Aug 2020
     Raimbaud II (?) Comte d'Orange died circa 1121.1
     ; NB: There is disagreement concerning the identify of Raimbaud II's mother.
     Genealogics says that she was name Gilberte.
     Wikipédia (Fr.) says that her name was Gilberge.
     Med Lands says that she was named Adélaïde, and cites a charter name her as his mother: "The fact that she was the mother of Raimbaud Comte d’Orange is confirmed by the charter dated 1126 under which “Idelfonsus comes Tholosanus et marchio Provinciæ” confirmed properties to Berenger Bishop of Orange, with the consent of “Thiburgæ filii Raimbaldi”, including donations made by “comitissa mater Raimbaldi...Atalaix”[274]." Med Lands cites: [274] Gallia Christiana, Tome I, Instrumenta, Ecclesiæ Arausicanæ, IV, p. 132.
     Jean Gallian shows the marriage to Gerberge/Gilberte/Gilberge as problematic and names Adélaïde as tne mother of Raimbaud II. (See attached diagram from Jean Gallian.)
Conclusion:
Based on the charter evidence cited by Med Lands, I have chosen to show Adélaïde as Raimbaud II's mother. GA Vaut.1,3,2,5,6

; This is the same person as ”Raimbaut II, Count of Orange” at Wikipedia and as ”Raimbaud II d'Orange” at Wikipédia (FR).7,8

; Per Genealogics:
     “Raymbaud II, comte d'Orange _(Raimboldus comes de Oringis)_ was the elder son of Bertrand Raimbaud, vicomte de Nice, and his first wife Giberte. His date of birth is not known. According to two sources, Albert of Aix and William of Tyre (neither of them eye-witnesses), he joined the First Crusade, presumably setting out in 1096; his name is linked with those of Bishop Adhemar of Le Puy and Robert II, Graaf van Vlaanderen, and he is said to have been present at the siege of Antioch in 1098. He remained in Palestine and died there, probably in 1121.
     “He married, but his wife's name is not known. No sons survived him. His daughter Tiburge, in her father's prolonged absence, was being called 'Countess of Orange' as early as 1115. With her second husband Guillem d'Omelaz, sire d'Omelaz, de Mont-Arnaud, she would have progeny, including the troubadour Raymbaud of Orange who inherited the territories of Omelaz and Orange.”.1

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 762, 445.1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raymbaud II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140207&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S4772] Site de Jean Gallian; Généalogies historiées et blasonnées, online <http://jean.gallian.free.fr/index.html>, http://jean.gallian.free.fr/comm2/Images/genealog/nice-orang/p1a.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Site de Jean Gallian.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provvaldi.htm#BertrandOrangediedafter1078B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertrand Raimbaud: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199372&tree=LEO
  5. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Bertrand-Raimbaud d'Orange: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand-Raimbaud_d%27Orange. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  6. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 13 August 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  7. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raimbaut_II,_Count_of_Orange. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  8. [S4742] Wikipédia (FR), online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Raimbaud II d'Orange: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raimbaud_II_d%27Orange
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Tiburge d'Orange: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140209&tree=LEO

Richard (?) Comte de Rouen1

M, #62017, d. after 796
FatherHieronymus/Jérôme dit «Martel» (?) gouverneur de Ponthieu2,1,3 d. a 782
ReferenceGAV32
Last Edited26 Jun 2020
     Richard (?) Comte de Rouen died after 796.4
     ; NB: The relationship between Buvinus Comte de Metz and Boson l'Ancien has been explored by Settipani [1993] and is summarized by Wikipédia (Fr.) as follows:
Hypothèse actuelle
     "Mais cette reconstitution est en contradiction avec les Annales de Saint-Bertin, qui indiquent que la reine Teutberge est la tante maternelle de Boson3. Il en ressort que Bivin ne peut pas être frère de Teutberge, mais marié à une des sœurs de cette dernière.
     "Deux autres documents permettent d'envisager une autre piste pour l'origine de Bivin :
** un diplôme de l'empereur Lothaire Ier confirme en 842 une donation faite par Richard, comte et ostiaire de Louis le Pieux à la demande des exécuteurs testamentaires dont son frère Bivin.
** l'historien Richer, parlant de Charles Constantin, comte de Vienne et arrière-petit-fils de Bivin, le dit de famille royale, mais entachée de bâtardise au niveau de son tritavus, c'est-à-dire son ancêtre à la sixième génération.
     "À partir de ces données, Christian Settipani propose la reconstitution suivante4,5,6 :
1. il considère que la famille royale dont Charles Constantin est membre est la famille carolingienne, et que le terme de « famille » concerne dans ce contexte exclusivement la lignée masculine.
2. il considère que, chronologiquement, le tritavus est un fils bâtard de Charles Martel.
3. les seuls fils bâtards connus de Charles Martel sont Remi, évêque de Rouen, qui n'a pas eu de descendance, et le comte Jérôme. Pour Settipani, le tritavus de Charles Constantin est le comte Jérôme.
4. Les prénoms de Richard, porté par un frère et un fils de Bivin, sont peu fréquents au viiie siècle et la seconde épouse du comte Jérôme est une princesse gothe. Il rapproche le prénom de Richard avec celui de Reccared porté par deux rois des Wisigoths (Reccared Ier et Reccared II) et identifie les générations intermédiaires avec les quelques Richard connus."
See the attached diagram of the ancestry as proposed by Settipani [1993], from Wikipédia (Fr.)
Conclusion: Settipani's proposals a certainly speculative, and Med Lands offers a critique and some counter-proposals (which are noted in my Med Lands Notes for the individuals concerned. For now, I have chosed to try to reconstruct the lineage as outlined by Settipani (see attached chart). GA Vaut.1,5,6

; Per Med Lands:
     "RICHARD (-after 796). Nithard records that his own father Angilbert "was a descendant of a family not unknown in those days, Madhelgaud, Richard and he came from the same stock" (“Angilbertus...Madhelgaudus autem, Richardus [apparently referring to Richard brother of Buvinus] et hic una progenie fuere”)[527]. "Carolus…rex Francorum et Langobardorum" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Denis by charter dated 16 Dec 781 which names "fidelibus…Richardo comite, Gunthardo comite, Theutbaldo comite, Griphone, Geroldo, Nortboldo, Winegiso, Walberto, Gisloldo, Aroino, Theutboldo, Constabili et Waraldo comite palatii nostri"[528]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Willebertus…Rotomagæ postea urbis archiepiscopum et Richardum comitem villarum suarum provisorem" in 796 as royal missi[529]. There is some speculation that this person was “Richard”, son of Comte Hieronymus, and that he was also “Richard” father of the brothers Richard (died [839/12 Nov 842]) and Buvinus (father of Boson King [of Provence]). Settipani refers to “Richard fils présumé du comte Hieronymus” whom he identifies as Richard who is named in 796[530]. He links this person with a speculative descent of the kings of Provence (family of Boson King [of Provence]) from Comte Hieronymus, illegitimate son of Charles "Martel"[531]. The trail starts with a reference by the late 10th century historian Richer who states that “Karolus Constantinus, Viennæ civitatis princeps” (son of Emperor Louis III, son of King Boson – see the document PROVENCE) was “ex regio quidem genere natus” but “concubinali stemmate usque ad tritavum”[532]. Settipani interprets the text as applying to the ancestor in the direct male line, and suggests that the chronology supports the “tritavus” in question being Comte Hieronymus. The hypothesis also links with the theory of Gingins-la-Sarra, who states that “on présume” that the brothers Richard (died (-[839/12 Nov 842]) and Buvinus (father of Boson King [of Provence]) were sons of this Comte Richard[533]. Gingins-la-Sarra relies on the passage in Nithard which is quoted above, although that text is so vague that it could refer to numerous different family connections. Whatever the truth about the imprecise descent referred to by Richer, inserting Comte Richard (named in 796) into the line of descent requires a giant leap of faith. There is no proof either that Hieronymus had a son named Richard or that Richard (named in 796) had any connection at all with the brothers Richard and Buvinus (other than his name). The speculation may be interesting, but it does not appear well argued. Until more information comes to light, it is suggested that it should be treated with extreme caution."
Med Lands cites:
[527] Nithard IV.5, p. 172, and Nithardi Historia, Lib. IV, 5, MGH SS I, p. 671.
[528] DD Kar. 1, 138, p. 188.
[529] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 6, MGH SS II, p. 610.
[530] Settipani (1993), pp. 363-5.
[531] Settipani (1993), pp. 363-5.
[532] Guadet, J. (ed.) Richeri Historiarum (1845) (Paris), Tome I, XCVIII, p. 270.
[533] Gingins-la-Sarra, F. de (1851) Les Bosonides (Lausanne), p. 37.4,7
GAV-32.

; This is the same person as ”Richard de Rouen” at Wikipédia (Fr.)8 He was living between 787 and 792.1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Bivin de Vienne: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bivin_de_Vienne. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  2. [S4742] Wikipédia (FR), online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Jérôme (fils de Charles Martel): https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A9r%C3%B4me_(fils_de_Charles_Martel).
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#RichardsonHieronymus. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Richarddiedafter796
  5. [S4753] Christian Settipani, La Préhistoire des Capétiens, 481-987, première partie - Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (n.p.: Van Kerrebrouck, 1993). Hereinafter cited as Settipani [1993] La Préhistoire des Capétiens.
  6. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 25 June 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  7. [S4753] Christian Settipani, Settipani [1993] La Préhistoire des Capétiens, pp. 353-355.
  8. [S4742] Wikipédia (FR), online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Richard de Rouen: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_de_Rouen

Bertrand Raimbaud II (?) Vicomte de Nice-Orange1,2

M, #62018
FatherRaimbaud de Nice (?) Seigneur de Vence et de Courthezon3,4,2,6,7 d. a 1062
MotherAdélaïde (?)3,4,2,5
Last Edited8 Dec 2020
     Bertrand Raimbaud II (?) Vicomte de Nice-Orange married Adélaïde de Cavenez, daughter of (?) de Cavenez;
Her 2nd husband; His 2nd? wife.8,2 Bertrand Raimbaud II (?) Vicomte de Nice-Orange married Gerberge/Gilberte (?) de Provence, daughter of Foulques-Bertrand I (?) Comte de Provence and Hildegarde/Ermengarde? (?) de Toulouse;
His 1st? wife.3,2,9,10
Bertrand Raimbaud II (?) Vicomte de Nice-Orange died after 1078.2
     ; Per Genealogy.EU (Bosonies): “I2. Gerberge; m.Bertrand-Rambauld de Nice”.10

; Per Genealogy.EU (Bosonides): “I2. Gerberge; m.Bertrand-Rambauld de Nice”.10

; See attached genealogical chart of the noble famlies of Nice-Orange.2

; NB: There is some confusion over the wife (wives) of Bertrand.
     Genealogics says he m. Gilberte.
     Med Lands says he m. Adelaide (as her 2nd husband).
     Jean Gallian says he m1? Gerberge de Provence (dau. of Fouques-Bertrand), and m2 Adélaïde de Canavese (widow of Guillaume Bertrand VI comte d'Avignon).
Conclusion: I have chosen to follow the lineage as presented by Jean Gallian and to show both possible marriages. GA Vaut.11,2,4,3,8

; This is the same person as ”Bertrand-Raimbaud d'Orange” at Wikipédia (Fr.)12 Bertrand Raimbaud II (?) Vicomte de Nice-Orange was also known as Bertrand-Rambauld de Nice.13

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 762.3 Bertrand Raimbaud II (?) Vicomte de Nice-Orange was also known as Bertrand Raimbaud of Orange.8

; Per Med Lands:
     "BERTRAND, son of RAIMBAUD & his [third wife Adelaide ---]. He is recorded in three documents: "Raimbaldus...et filiis suis ac Laugerio, Raimbaldo scilicet et Bertranno" donated "monasterium sancti Verani…in pago Vinciensi" to Lérins by charter dated 1062[269]; "Petrus Vasensis episcopus filius Raimbaldi" donated “castrum...Drapo...in comitatu Nicensi” to Nice, for the soul of "domni Mironi qui fuit quondam", by charter dated 21 Apr 1073, signed by “Leodegarius frater, Rostagnus frater, Bertrannus frater...”[270]; "Bertrandus filius Raimbaldi et uxor mea cum filiis meis" donated “vineam de Columba quartam partem...in Calvarolas...” to Nice by charter dated to [1078], signed by "Petrus episcopus..."[271]. His identification as the father of Raimbaud Comte d’Orange is indicated by two other documents. Firstly, Cais de Pierlas indicates a source dated to [1061] which names “Bertrandus Aurasicensis filius Raimbaldi” (although he does not provide any citation reference)[272]. Secondly, an undated letter from Pope Alexander II (who was Pope from 1061 to 1073) threatened “Bertrando filio Raimbaldi” with excommunication if he persisted in harassing Géraud who was Bishop of Orange from 1060 to 1085[273]. He cites other sources which indicate that other members of Bertrand’s family were resident in the area of Orange.
     "m [as her second husband,] ADELAIDE, [widow of ---,] daughter of --- (-after 12 Oct 1103). The fact that she was the mother of Raimbaud Comte d’Orange is confirmed by the charter dated 1126 under which “Idelfonsus comes Tholosanus et marchio Provinciæ” confirmed properties to Berenger Bishop of Orange, with the consent of “Thiburgæ filii Raimbaldi”, including donations made by “comitissa mater Raimbaldi...Atalaix”[274]. The possibility of her earlier marriage is discussed in the Introduction to this section."
Med Lands cites:
[269] Lérins, CCCLVIII, p. 347.
[270] Nice Cathedral, 82, p. 101.
[271] Nice Cathedral, 17, p. 23.
[272] Cais de Pierlas (1889), p. 51.
[273] RHGF Tome XIV, Alexandri Papæ II Epistolæ, XXIII, p. 546.
[274] Gallia Christiana, Tome I, Instrumenta, Ecclesiæ Arausicanæ, IV, p. 132.4
He was living in 1062.3

Family 2

Adélaïde de Cavenez d. a 12 Oct 1113
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertrand Raimbaud: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199372&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S4772] Site de Jean Gallian; Généalogies historiées et blasonnées, online <http://jean.gallian.free.fr/index.html>, http://jean.gallian.free.fr/comm2/Images/genealog/nice-orang/p1a.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Site de Jean Gallian.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertrand Raimbaud: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199372&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provvaldi.htm#BertrandOrangediedafter1078B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelaide: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199379&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raimbald de Nice: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199376&tree=LEO
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provnice.htm#GiseleMRostainApt
  8. [S1494] Thierry Stasser, "Stasser email "Re: Diego Lopez de Haro, de Vizcaya/Biscay"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 5 November 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Stasser email 5 November 2003."
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gilberte: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199373&tree=LEO
  10. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Boson page (Bosonides): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/boson.html
  11. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 21 June 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  12. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand-Raimbaud_d%27Orange. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  13. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Boson page (Bosonides): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/boson.html
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raymbaud II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140207&tree=LEO

Adélaïde (?)1

F, #62019
Last Edited8 Dec 2020
     Adélaïde (?) married Raimbaud de Nice (?) Seigneur de Vence et de Courthezon, son of Leodegar/Laugier (?) co-Seigneur de Vence and Odila (?) Vicomtesse de Nice;
His 3rd wife.2,1,3
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 762.1
; Per Med Lands:
     "RAIMBAUD (-after 1062). "Leotgerius et uxor mea Odila et infantes nostri Raimbaldus…et domnus episcopus Petrus…et Rostagnus juvenis" donated "ecclesia…in comitatu Venciense" to Lérins by charter dated Feb 1032[514]. "Lambertus et uxor mea Austrudis, Amicus et uxor mea Ermengarda, Raimbaldus et uxor mea Gisla" donated property "in Lupum et…territorium Cagne castelli" to Lérins by charter dated 1033, signed by "Lanbertus, Amicus germani fratres, Raimbaldus et Rostagnus simul fratres et uxores illorum…"[515]. "Lanbertus et uxor mea Austrudis et filii nostri Fulco et Guillelmus" donated "sancti Verani…ecclesias…in comitatu Vinciensi" to Lérins by charter dated 10 May 1033 which names "Raimbaldi filium Hodile"[516]. "Miro vicecomes Sistericensis, frater Raimbaldi" donated property "in comitatu Cimelensi sive Niciensi in territorio castelli sive ville…Contenes" to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated 23 Apr 1037[517]. "Raimbaldus et uxor mea Belieldis" donated property "ville…Saleta de Saraman" to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated to [1040], subscribed by "Petrus episcopus frater eius, Rostagnus frater eius"[518]. "Raimbaldus...cum uxore mea...Adalais et filiis meis" donated property "in ea villa...Saletam de Saramann...[et] in castro...Canea...in comitatu Vincensi..." to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated to [1045][519]. "Raimbaldus" donated "monasterium sancti Verani…in pago Vinciensi" to Lérins by charter dated 1062[520]. "Raimbaldus...et filiis suis ac Laugerio, Raimbaldo scilicet et Bertranno" donated "monasterium sancti Verani…in pago Vinciensi" to Lérins by charter dated 1062, confirmed by “Milo frater eius, Aldebertus episcopus, Petrus Rostagnus...”[521].
     "m firstly GISELE, daughter of ---. "Lambertus et uxor mea Austrudis, Amicus et uxor mea Ermengarda, Raimbaldus et uxor mea Gisla" donated property "in Lupum et…territorium Cagne castelli" to Lérins by charter dated 1033, signed by "Lanbertus, Amicus germani fratres, Raimbaldus et Rostagnus simul fratres et uxores illorum…"[522].
     "m secondly BELIELDIS, daughter of --- (-after [1040]). "Raimbaldus et uxor mea Belieldis" donated property "ville…Saleta de Saraman" to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated to [1040][523].
     "m thirdly (before [1045]) ADELAIS, daughter of ---. "Raimbaldus...cum uxore mea...Adalais et filiis meis" donated property "in ea villa...Saletam de Saramann...[et] in castro...Canea...in comitatu Vincensi..." to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated to [1045][524].
     "Raimbaud & his first wife had four children:
i) LAUGIER (-after 21 Apr 1073).
ii) ROSTAIN (-after 21 Apr 1073).
iii) PIERRE (-after [1078]). Bishop of Vaison.
iv) GISELE (-after [1060]).

     "Raimbaud & his [second] wife had two children:
v) AMIC (-after [1070]).
vi) GUILLAUME (-after [1070]).

     "Raimbaud & his [third] wife had one child:
vii) BERTRAND (-after [1078])."

Med Lands cites:
[514] Lérins, CXLIX, p. 136.
[515] Lérins, CLIV bis, p. 146.
[516] Lérins, CLIII, p. 142.
[517] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, Chartularium Majus, 793, p. 144.
[518] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, Chartularium Majus, 799, p. 148.
[519] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, 792, p. 143.
[520] Lérins, CLII, p. 141.
[521] Lérins, CCCLVIII, p. 347.
[522] Lérins, CLIV bis, p. 146.
[523] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, Chartularium Majus, 799, p. 148.
[524] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, 792, p. 143.4

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelaide: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199379&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raimbald de Nice: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199376&tree=LEO
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provnice.htm#GiseleMRostainApt. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provnice.htm#_Toc31542627
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertrand Raimbaud: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199372&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provvaldi.htm#BertrandOrangediedafter1078B
  7. [S4772] Site de Jean Gallian; Généalogies historiées et blasonnées, online <http://jean.gallian.free.fr/index.html>, http://jean.gallian.free.fr/comm2/Images/genealog/nice-orang/p1a.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Site de Jean Gallian.

Raimbaud de Nice (?) Seigneur de Vence et de Courthezon1,2

M, #62020, d. after 1062
FatherLeodegar/Laugier (?) co-Seigneur de Vence3,4,6,2 d. a Feb 1032
MotherOdila (?) Vicomtesse de Nice3,4,5,2
ReferenceEDV27
Last Edited13 Aug 2020
     Raimbaud de Nice (?) Seigneur de Vence et de Courthezon married Adélaïde (?);
His 3rd wife.3,7,2 Raimbaud de Nice (?) Seigneur de Vence et de Courthezon married Gisele (?);
His 1st wife.3,4,8,2 Raimbaud de Nice (?) Seigneur de Vence et de Courthezon married Belieldis (?);
His 2nd wife.9,3,4,2
Raimbaud de Nice (?) Seigneur de Vence et de Courthezon died after 1062.1,4
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 762.3 EDV-27.

; Per Med Lands:
     "RAIMBAUD (-after 1062). "Leotgerius et uxor mea Odila et infantes nostri Raimbaldus…et domnus episcopus Petrus…et Rostagnus juvenis" donated "ecclesia…in comitatu Venciense" to Lérins by charter dated Feb 1032[514]. "Lambertus et uxor mea Austrudis, Amicus et uxor mea Ermengarda, Raimbaldus et uxor mea Gisla" donated property "in Lupum et…territorium Cagne castelli" to Lérins by charter dated 1033, signed by "Lanbertus, Amicus germani fratres, Raimbaldus et Rostagnus simul fratres et uxores illorum…"[515]. "Lanbertus et uxor mea Austrudis et filii nostri Fulco et Guillelmus" donated "sancti Verani…ecclesias…in comitatu Vinciensi" to Lérins by charter dated 10 May 1033 which names "Raimbaldi filium Hodile"[516]. "Miro vicecomes Sistericensis, frater Raimbaldi" donated property "in comitatu Cimelensi sive Niciensi in territorio castelli sive ville…Contenes" to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated 23 Apr 1037[517]. "Raimbaldus et uxor mea Belieldis" donated property "ville…Saleta de Saraman" to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated to [1040], subscribed by "Petrus episcopus frater eius, Rostagnus frater eius"[518]. "Raimbaldus...cum uxore mea...Adalais et filiis meis" donated property "in ea villa...Saletam de Saramann...[et] in castro...Canea...in comitatu Vincensi..." to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated to [1045][519]. "Raimbaldus" donated "monasterium sancti Verani…in pago Vinciensi" to Lérins by charter dated 1062[520]. "Raimbaldus...et filiis suis ac Laugerio, Raimbaldo scilicet et Bertranno" donated "monasterium sancti Verani…in pago Vinciensi" to Lérins by charter dated 1062, confirmed by “Milo frater eius, Aldebertus episcopus, Petrus Rostagnus...”[521].
     "m firstly GISELE, daughter of ---. "Lambertus et uxor mea Austrudis, Amicus et uxor mea Ermengarda, Raimbaldus et uxor mea Gisla" donated property "in Lupum et…territorium Cagne castelli" to Lérins by charter dated 1033, signed by "Lanbertus, Amicus germani fratres, Raimbaldus et Rostagnus simul fratres et uxores illorum…"[522].
     "m secondly BELIELDIS, daughter of --- (-after [1040]). "Raimbaldus et uxor mea Belieldis" donated property "ville…Saleta de Saraman" to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated to [1040][523].
     "m thirdly (before [1045]) ADELAIS, daughter of ---. "Raimbaldus...cum uxore mea...Adalais et filiis meis" donated property "in ea villa...Saletam de Saramann...[et] in castro...Canea...in comitatu Vincensi..." to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated to [1045][524].
     "Raimbaud & his first wife had four children:
i) LAUGIER (-after 21 Apr 1073).
ii) ROSTAIN (-after 21 Apr 1073).
iii) PIERRE (-after [1078]). Bishop of Vaison.
iv) GISELE (-after [1060]).

     "Raimbaud & his [second] wife had two children:
v) AMIC (-after [1070]).
vi) GUILLAUME (-after [1070]).

     "Raimbaud & his [third] wife had one child:
vii) BERTRAND (-after [1078])."

Med Lands cites:
[514] Lérins, CXLIX, p. 136.
[515] Lérins, CLIV bis, p. 146.
[516] Lérins, CLIII, p. 142.
[517] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, Chartularium Majus, 793, p. 144.
[518] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, Chartularium Majus, 799, p. 148.
[519] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, 792, p. 143.
[520] Lérins, CLII, p. 141.
[521] Lérins, CCCLVIII, p. 347.
[522] Lérins, CLIV bis, p. 146.
[523] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, Chartularium Majus, 799, p. 148.
[524] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, 792, p. 143.4
He was living in 1030.3

Family 1

Belieldis (?)

Family 2

Gisele (?)
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raimbald de Nice: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199376&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provnice.htm#GiseleMRostainApt. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raimbald de Nice: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199376&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provnice.htm#_Toc31542627
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Odila: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199381&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Leodegar/Laugier: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199380&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelaide: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199379&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Acelena: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199377&tree=LEO
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Belieldis: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199378&tree=LEO
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertrand Raimbaud: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199372&tree=LEO
  11. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provvaldi.htm#BertrandOrangediedafter1078B
  12. [S4772] Site de Jean Gallian; Généalogies historiées et blasonnées, online <http://jean.gallian.free.fr/index.html>, http://jean.gallian.free.fr/comm2/Images/genealog/nice-orang/p1a.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Site de Jean Gallian.

Gisele (?)1

F, #62021
Last Edited13 Aug 2020
     Gisele (?) married Raimbaud de Nice (?) Seigneur de Vence et de Courthezon, son of Leodegar/Laugier (?) co-Seigneur de Vence and Odila (?) Vicomtesse de Nice;
His 1st wife.2,1,3,4
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "RAIMBAUD (-after 1062). "Leotgerius et uxor mea Odila et infantes nostri Raimbaldus…et domnus episcopus Petrus…et Rostagnus juvenis" donated "ecclesia…in comitatu Venciense" to Lérins by charter dated Feb 1032[514]. "Lambertus et uxor mea Austrudis, Amicus et uxor mea Ermengarda, Raimbaldus et uxor mea Gisla" donated property "in Lupum et…territorium Cagne castelli" to Lérins by charter dated 1033, signed by "Lanbertus, Amicus germani fratres, Raimbaldus et Rostagnus simul fratres et uxores illorum…"[515]. "Lanbertus et uxor mea Austrudis et filii nostri Fulco et Guillelmus" donated "sancti Verani…ecclesias…in comitatu Vinciensi" to Lérins by charter dated 10 May 1033 which names "Raimbaldi filium Hodile"[516]. "Miro vicecomes Sistericensis, frater Raimbaldi" donated property "in comitatu Cimelensi sive Niciensi in territorio castelli sive ville…Contenes" to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated 23 Apr 1037[517]. "Raimbaldus et uxor mea Belieldis" donated property "ville…Saleta de Saraman" to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated to [1040], subscribed by "Petrus episcopus frater eius, Rostagnus frater eius"[518]. "Raimbaldus...cum uxore mea...Adalais et filiis meis" donated property "in ea villa...Saletam de Saramann...[et] in castro...Canea...in comitatu Vincensi..." to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated to [1045][519]. "Raimbaldus" donated "monasterium sancti Verani…in pago Vinciensi" to Lérins by charter dated 1062[520]. "Raimbaldus...et filiis suis ac Laugerio, Raimbaldo scilicet et Bertranno" donated "monasterium sancti Verani…in pago Vinciensi" to Lérins by charter dated 1062, confirmed by “Milo frater eius, Aldebertus episcopus, Petrus Rostagnus...”[521].
     "m firstly GISELE, daughter of ---. "Lambertus et uxor mea Austrudis, Amicus et uxor mea Ermengarda, Raimbaldus et uxor mea Gisla" donated property "in Lupum et…territorium Cagne castelli" to Lérins by charter dated 1033, signed by "Lanbertus, Amicus germani fratres, Raimbaldus et Rostagnus simul fratres et uxores illorum…"[522].
     "m secondly BELIELDIS, daughter of --- (-after [1040]). "Raimbaldus et uxor mea Belieldis" donated property "ville…Saleta de Saraman" to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated to [1040][523].
     "m thirdly (before [1045]) ADELAIS, daughter of ---. "Raimbaldus...cum uxore mea...Adalais et filiis meis" donated property "in ea villa...Saletam de Saramann...[et] in castro...Canea...in comitatu Vincensi..." to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated to [1045][524].
     "Raimbaud & his first wife had four children:
i) LAUGIER (-after 21 Apr 1073).
ii) ROSTAIN (-after 21 Apr 1073).
iii) PIERRE (-after [1078]). Bishop of Vaison.
iv) GISELE (-after [1060]).

     "Raimbaud & his [second] wife had two children:
v) AMIC (-after [1070]).
vi) GUILLAUME (-after [1070]).

     "Raimbaud & his [third] wife had one child:
vii) BERTRAND (-after [1078])."

Med Lands cites:
[514] Lérins, CXLIX, p. 136.
[515] Lérins, CLIV bis, p. 146.
[516] Lérins, CLIII, p. 142.
[517] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, Chartularium Majus, 793, p. 144.
[518] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, Chartularium Majus, 799, p. 148.
[519] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, 792, p. 143.
[520] Lérins, CLII, p. 141.
[521] Lérins, CCCLVIII, p. 347.
[522] Lérins, CLIV bis, p. 146.
[523] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, Chartularium Majus, 799, p. 148.
[524] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, 792, p. 143.1


Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 762.3 Gisele (?) was also known as Acelena (?)3

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provnice.htm#_Toc31542627. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raimbald de Nice: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199376&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Acelena: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199377&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provnice.htm#GiseleMRostainApt

Odila (?) Vicomtesse de Nice1

F, #62023
FatherLambert "le Juge" (?) vicomte de Reillane et de Vence2
MotherOdile (?)2
ReferenceGAV27 EDV28
Last Edited13 Aug 2020
     Odila (?) Vicomtesse de Nice married Miron Laget (?) vicomte de Sisteron in 1001;
Her 1st husband.3,2 Odila (?) Vicomtesse de Nice married Leodegar/Laugier (?) co-Seigneur de Vence before 30 December 1010;
Her 2nd husband.4,5,1
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 762 & Olivier Auffray .1 Odila (?) Vicomtesse de Nice was also known as Odile (?) de Reillane-Vence.6

; Per Med Lands:
     "LAUGIER [Leotger] (-after Feb 1032). "Loger et Hodila et Pontius…episcopus et Mironi" donated property to the church at Nice, for the soul of "domni Mironi qui fuit quondam", by charter dated 30 Nov 1011[510]. "Leotgerius et uxor mea Odila et infantes nostri Raimbaldus…et domnus episcopus Petrus…et Rostagnus juvenis" donated "ecclesia…in comitatu Venciense" to Lérins by charter dated Feb 1032[511].
     "m (before 30 Dec 1010) as her second husband, ODILE, widow of MIRON, daughter of --- (-after Feb 1032). "Loger et Hodila et Pontius…episcopus et Mironi" donated property to the church at Nice, for the soul of "domni Mironi qui fuit quondam", by charter dated 30 Nov 1011[512]. "Leotgerius et uxor mea Odila et infantes nostri Raimbaldus…et domnus episcopus Petrus…et Rostagnus juvenis" donated "ecclesia…in comitatu Venciense" to Lérins by charter dated Feb 1032[513]."
Med Lands cites:
[510] Nice Cathedral, 8, p. 9.
[511] Lérins, CXLIX, p. 136.
[512] Nice Cathedral, 8, p. 9.
[513] Lérins, CXLIX, p. 136.4
GAV-27 EDV-28.

; Per Med Lands:
     "MIRON (-[15 Sep 1003/11 May 1004]). "Miro et conjux mea Odila" donated property to Saint-Pons by charter dated 9 Dec 999 at Lurs[429]. "…Domni Mironi…" is named in a charter at Nice dated 22 Aug 1002[430]. A charter dated 15 Sep 1003 names "…Mironi vel uxore sua Odila…"[431].
     "m as her first husband, ODILE, daughter of ---. "Miro et conjux mea Odila" donated property to Saint-Pons by charter dated 9 Dec 999 at Lurs[432]. A charter dated 15 Sep 1003 names "…Mironi vel uxore sua Odila…"[433]. She married secondly (before 30 Dec 1010) Laugier. "Loger et Hodila et Pontius…episcopus et Mironi" donated property to the church at Nice, for the soul of "domni Mironi qui fuit quondam", by charter dated 30 Nov 1011[434]. “Odila et filii mei Pontius et Bermundus et Mironi” donated property “prope civitate Cimela” to Nice Saint-Pons, for the souls of “...Mironi genitori nostro et Lodgerio rectore nostro”, by undated charter[435]."
Med Lands cites:
[429] Manteyer (1908), p. 358, quoting Cartulaire de Saint-Pons, 1.
[430] Nice Cathedral, 18, p. 23.
[431] Nice Cathedral, 19, p. 25.
[432] Manteyer (1908), p. 358, quoting Cartulaire de Saint-Pons, 1.
[433] Nice Cathedral, 19, p. 25.
[434] Nice Cathedral, 8, p. 9.
[435] Gioffredo (1658), p. 159.


; Per Bunot ("Ahnentafel Petronille de Comminges-Bigorre")":
"178. Miron Laget, vicomte de Sisteron (1001/04)
179. m. 1001, Odile de Reillane-Vence."2
She was living in 1003.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Odila: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199381&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1707] J Bunot, "Bunot email 26 Feb 2005: "Ahnentafel Petronille de Comminges-Bigorre"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/soc.genealogy.medieval/YzUpz3CDrCM/zTYWP3a3pRkJ;context-place=forum/soc.genealogy.medieval) to e-mail address, 26 Feb 2005, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/soc.genealogy.medieval/YzUpz3CDrCM/zTYWP3a3pRkJ;context-place=forum/soc.genealogy.medieval. Hereinafter cited as "Bunot email 26 Feb 2005."
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provaixmar.htm#GerbergeMBerenger. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provnice.htm#LauguerMOdile
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Leodegar/Laugier: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199380&tree=LEO
  6. [S1707] J Bunot, "Bunot email 26 Feb 2005," e-mail to e-mail address, 26 Feb 2005.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raimbald de Nice: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199376&tree=LEO
  8. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provnice.htm#_Toc31542627
  9. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provnice.htm#GiseleMRostainApt

Leodegar/Laugier (?) co-Seigneur de Vence1

M, #62024, d. after February 1032
Last Edited13 Aug 2020
     Leodegar/Laugier (?) co-Seigneur de Vence married Odila (?) Vicomtesse de Nice, daughter of Lambert "le Juge" (?) vicomte de Reillane et de Vence and Odile (?), before 30 December 1010;
Her 2nd husband.2,3,4
Leodegar/Laugier (?) co-Seigneur de Vence died after February 1032.2,3
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 762 & Olivier Auffray .3 Leodegar/Laugier (?) co-Seigneur de Vence was also known as Laugier/Leotger (?)2

; Per Med Lands:
     "LAUGIER [Leotger] (-after Feb 1032). "Loger et Hodila et Pontius…episcopus et Mironi" donated property to the church at Nice, for the soul of "domni Mironi qui fuit quondam", by charter dated 30 Nov 1011[510]. "Leotgerius et uxor mea Odila et infantes nostri Raimbaldus…et domnus episcopus Petrus…et Rostagnus juvenis" donated "ecclesia…in comitatu Venciense" to Lérins by charter dated Feb 1032[511].
     "m (before 30 Dec 1010) as her second husband, ODILE, widow of MIRON, daughter of --- (-after Feb 1032). "Loger et Hodila et Pontius…episcopus et Mironi" donated property to the church at Nice, for the soul of "domni Mironi qui fuit quondam", by charter dated 30 Nov 1011[512]. "Leotgerius et uxor mea Odila et infantes nostri Raimbaldus…et domnus episcopus Petrus…et Rostagnus juvenis" donated "ecclesia…in comitatu Venciense" to Lérins by charter dated Feb 1032[513]."
Med Lands cites:
[510] Nice Cathedral, 8, p. 9.
[511] Lérins, CXLIX, p. 136.
[512] Nice Cathedral, 8, p. 9.
[513] Lérins, CXLIX, p. 136.2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Leodegar/Laugier: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199380&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provnice.htm#LauguerMOdile. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Leodegar/Laugier: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199380&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Odila: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199381&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raimbald de Nice: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199376&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provnice.htm#_Toc31542627
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provnice.htm#GiseleMRostainApt

Andre de Laval Seigneur de Chatillon, d'Aubigne, de Loue1,2

M, #62025, d. 1356
FatherGuy VIII de Montmorency Sire de Laval1,2 b. 1240, d. 22 Aug 1295
MotherJeanne de Brienne Dame de Loue1,2 d. 1323
Last Edited17 Oct 2004
     Andre de Laval Seigneur de Chatillon, d'Aubigne, de Loue married Eustachie de Baucay Dame de Benais; her 2nd husbnd.3,2
Andre de Laval Seigneur de Chatillon, d'Aubigne, de Loue died in 1356.1,2
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: III 116.1

; [2m.] Andre de Laval, sn de Chatillon, d'Aubigne et de Loue, +1356; m.Eustachie de Baucay, Dame de Benais.2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Andre de Laval: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026337&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Morency 1 page - Montmorency family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/morency/morency1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eustachie de Baucay: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026338&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jean de Laval: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026341&tree=LEO

Guy VII (?) Sire de Laval1,2

M, #62026, d. 1267
FatherMatthieu II de Montmorency Baron de Montmorency, Connetable de France1,2,3 b. 1174, d. 24 Nov 1230
MotherEmma de Laval1,2,4 b. c 1197, d. 1265
Last Edited29 Nov 2020
     Guy VII (?) Sire de Laval married Philippe de Vitre Dame de Vitre, daughter of Andre III de Vitre Sire de Vitré and Katherine de Thouars, in 1219; his 1st wife.5,1,2 Guy VII (?) Sire de Laval married Thomasse de Pouance Dame de Mareuil in October 1257; his 2nd wife.2
Guy VII (?) Sire de Laval died in 1267.1,2
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: III 113, 115
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIV 137.1

; [2m.] Guy VII, sire de Laval, +1267; 1m: 1219 Philippe, Dame de Vitre (+16.9.1254); 2m: X.1257 Thomasse de Pouance, Dame de Mareuil.2

Family 1

Philippe de Vitre Dame de Vitre d. 16 Sep 1254
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy VII: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026323&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Morency 1 page - Montmorency family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/morency/morency1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Matthieu II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026320&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Emme de Laval: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026215&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Philippe de Vitré: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026346&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy VIII: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026324&tree=LEO

Philippe de Vitre Dame de Vitre1

F, #62027, d. 16 September 1254
FatherAndre III de Vitre Sire de Vitré1 d. 8 Feb 1250
MotherKatherine de Thouars1 b. c 1201, d. bt 1237 - 1240
Last Edited17 Oct 2004
     Philippe de Vitre Dame de Vitre married Guy VII (?) Sire de Laval, son of Matthieu II de Montmorency Baron de Montmorency, Connetable de France and Emma de Laval, in 1219; his 1st wife.1,2,3
Philippe de Vitre Dame de Vitre died on 16 September 1254.1,3
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: III 115.1

Family

Guy VII (?) Sire de Laval d. 1267
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Philippe de Vitré: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026346&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy VII: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026323&tree=LEO
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Morency 1 page - Montmorency family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/morency/morency1.html

Eustachie de Baucay Dame de Benais1

F, #62028
Last Edited17 Oct 2004
     Eustachie de Baucay Dame de Benais married Andre de Laval Seigneur de Chatillon, d'Aubigne, de Loue, son of Guy VIII de Montmorency Sire de Laval and Jeanne de Brienne Dame de Loue; her 2nd husbnd.1,2
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: III 116.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eustachie de Baucay: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026338&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Morency 1 page - Montmorency family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/morency/morency1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jean de Laval: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026341&tree=LEO

Jean de Laval Seigneur de Chatillon1,2

M, #62029, d. 1398
FatherAndre de Laval Seigneur de Chatillon, d'Aubigne, de Loue1,2 d. 1356
MotherEustachie de Baucay Dame de Benais1,2
Last Edited17 Oct 2004
     Jean de Laval Seigneur de Chatillon married Isabeau de Tinteniac Dame de Tinteniac, de Becherel.3,2,1
Jean de Laval Seigneur de Chatillon died in 1398.1,2
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: III 116.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jean de Laval: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026341&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Morency 1 page - Montmorency family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/morency/morency1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabeau de Tinteniac: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026342&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jeanne de Laval: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026330&tree=LEO

Isabeau de Tinteniac Dame de Tinteniac, de Becherel1

F, #62030
Last Edited17 Oct 2004
     Isabeau de Tinteniac Dame de Tinteniac, de Becherel married Jean de Laval Seigneur de Chatillon, son of Andre de Laval Seigneur de Chatillon, d'Aubigne, de Loue and Eustachie de Baucay Dame de Benais.1,2,3
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: III 116.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabeau de Tinteniac: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026342&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Morency 1 page - Montmorency family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/morency/morency1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jean de Laval: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026341&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jeanne de Laval: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026330&tree=LEO

Jeanne de Laval Dame de Châtillon, d'Attichy1,2

F, #62031, d. 27 October 1437
FatherJean de Laval Seigneur de Chatillon1,4,2 d. 1398
MotherIsabeau de Tinteniac Dame de Tinteniac, de Becherel1,3,2
Last Edited28 Oct 2019
     Jeanne de Laval Dame de Châtillon, d'Attichy married Bertrand du Guesclin le Connetable du Guesclin in 1374; his 2nd wife; her 1st husband.5,2,1 Jeanne de Laval Dame de Châtillon, d'Attichy married Guy XII (Jean) (?) Sire de Laval, de Vitre et de Gavre, son of Guy X de Laval Sire de Laval et de Vitre and Beatrix de Dreux Dame de Hede, on 28 May 1384; her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife.6,2,1
Jeanne de Laval Dame de Châtillon, d'Attichy died on 27 October 1437.1,2
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: III 115, 116.1

Family 1

Bertrand du Guesclin le Connetable du Guesclin b. c 1320, d. 13 Jul 1380

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jeanne de Laval: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026330&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Morency 1 page - Montmorency family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/morency/morency1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabeau de Tinteniac: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026342&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jean de Laval: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026341&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertrand Du Guesclin: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026333&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy XII (Jean): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026329&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne de Laval: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026331&tree=LEO

Bertrand du Guesclin le Connetable du Guesclin1

M, #62032, b. circa 1320, d. 13 July 1380
Last Edited28 Oct 2019
     Bertrand du Guesclin le Connetable du Guesclin was buried at Basilique Saint-Denis, Saint-Denis, Departement de Seine-Saint-Denis, Île-de-France, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1320
     DEATH     1380 (aged 59–60)
     Family Members
     Spouse
          Jeanne de Laval-Tinténiac unknown–1437 (m. 1374)
     BURIAL     Saint Denis Basilique, Saint-Denis, Departement de Seine-Saint-Denis, Île-de-France, France
     Created by: Rik Van Beveren
     Added: 6 May 2009
     Find A Grave Memorial 36786280.2 He was born circa 1320.1 He married Jeanne de Laval Dame de Châtillon, d'Attichy, daughter of Jean de Laval Seigneur de Chatillon and Isabeau de Tinteniac Dame de Tinteniac, de Becherel, in 1374; his 2nd wife; her 1st husband.1,3,4
Bertrand du Guesclin le Connetable du Guesclin died on 13 July 1380 at Chateauneuf de Randon.1
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: III 115, 116.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertrand Du Guesclin: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026333&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 28 October 2019), memorial page for Bertrand Du Guesclin (1320–1380), Find A Grave Memorial no. 36786280, citing Saint Denis Basilique, Saint-Denis, Departement de Seine-Saint-Denis, Île-de-France, France ; Maintained by Rik Van Beveren (contributor 46956302), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/36786280/bertrand-du_guesclin. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Morency 1 page - Montmorency family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/morency/morency1.html
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jeanne de Laval: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026330&tree=LEO

Guy XII (Jean) (?) Sire de Laval, de Vitre et de Gavre1,2

M, #62033, d. 24 April 1414
FatherGuy X de Laval Sire de Laval et de Vitre1,3,2 d. 18 Jun 1347
MotherBeatrix de Dreux Dame de Hede3,1,4,2 b. 1295, d. 9 Dec 1384
Last Edited17 Oct 2004
     Guy XII (Jean) (?) Sire de Laval, de Vitre et de Gavre married Louise de Châteaubriant in 1348; his 1st wife.5,1,2 Guy XII (Jean) (?) Sire de Laval, de Vitre et de Gavre married Jeanne de Laval Dame de Châtillon, d'Attichy, daughter of Jean de Laval Seigneur de Chatillon and Isabeau de Tinteniac Dame de Tinteniac, de Becherel, on 28 May 1384; her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife.1,2,6
Guy XII (Jean) (?) Sire de Laval, de Vitre et de Gavre died on 24 April 1414.1,2
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: III 115
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIV 137.1

; Guy XII, sire de Laval, de Vitre et de Gavre, +24.4.1414; 1m: 1348 Louise de Chateaubriand (+27.11.1383); 2m: 28.5.1384 Jeanne de Laval, Dame de Chatillon (+27.10.1437.)2

Family 1

Louise de Châteaubriant d. 27 Nov 1383

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy XII (Jean): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026329&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Morency 1 page - Montmorency family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/morency/morency1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy X: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005747&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice de Bretagne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005721&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Louise de Châteaubriant: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00025388&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jeanne de Laval: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026330&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne de Laval: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026331&tree=LEO

Louise de Châteaubriant1

F, #62034, d. 27 November 1383
Last Edited17 Oct 2004
     Louise de Châteaubriant married Guy XII (Jean) (?) Sire de Laval, de Vitre et de Gavre, son of Guy X de Laval Sire de Laval et de Vitre and Beatrix de Dreux Dame de Hede, in 1348; his 1st wife.1,2,3
Louise de Châteaubriant died on 27 November 1383.1,3
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIV 137.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Louise de Châteaubriant: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00025388&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy XII (Jean): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026329&tree=LEO
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Morency 1 page - Montmorency family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/morency/morency1.html

Anne de Laval Dame de Laval, de Vitre et de Gavre1

F, #62035, d. 28 January 1466
FatherGuy XII (Jean) (?) Sire de Laval, de Vitre et de Gavre1 d. 24 Apr 1414
MotherJeanne de Laval Dame de Châtillon, d'Attichy1,2 d. 27 Oct 1437
Last Edited1 Oct 2006
     Anne de Laval Dame de Laval, de Vitre et de Gavre married Guy XIII (Jean) de Montfort Sire de Laval, Seigneur de Kergorlay, son of Raoul VIII de Montfort seigneur de Montfort and Jeanne de Kergolay, between 22 January 1404 and 1405.1,3,4
Anne de Laval Dame de Laval, de Vitre et de Gavre died on 28 January 1466.1
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: III 115.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne de Laval: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026331&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jeanne de Laval: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026330&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy XIII (Jean) de Montfort: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026332&tree=LEO
  4. [S1968] J Bunot, "Bunot email 21 Oct 2005: "Re: Correction to Genealogics"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 21 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Bunot email 21 Oct 2005."
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy XIV (XII-XIII): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013409&tree=LEO

Béatrix (alias Catherine, Marguerite) de Laval Dame de Villemomble1,2,3

F, #62036, d. after January 1365
FatherGuy X de Laval Sire de Laval et de Vitre1,2,3 d. 18 Jun 1347
MotherBeatrix de Dreux Dame de Hede1,2,3 b. 1295, d. 9 Dec 1384
Last Edited5 Feb 2010
     Béatrix (alias Catherine, Marguerite) de Laval Dame de Villemomble married Olivier V «Le Connétable», «Le Boucher», «Le Borgne» de Clisson Seigneur de Clisson, Comte de Porhoët, Connetable de France, son of Olivier IV de Clisson seigneur de Clisson, Blain, Belleville et Châteaumur, baron de Mirebeau and Jeanne de Belleville dame de Montaigu, La Gamache, Palluau, Beauvoir-sur-Mer, Châteaumur, on 12 February 1361 at Vitré, France; his 1st wife.4,2,3
Béatrix (alias Catherine, Marguerite) de Laval Dame de Villemomble died after January 1365.1,2,3
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: vol III page 115.
2. Histoire et Genealogie des maisons de Rohan, Chabot, de Rohan-Chabot. , Georges Martin, Reference: vol II page 57/62.
3. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIV 137.1

; Cathérine, dame de Villemomble, +after I.1365; m.Vitre 12.2.1361 Olivier V de Clisson, Cte de Porhoet (+Josselin 23.4.1407.)2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Catherine (Béatrix) de Laval: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005749&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Morency 1 page - Montmorency family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/morency/morency1.html
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Clisson.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Olivier V de Clisson: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005748&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Béatrix de Clisson: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005746&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Clisson: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005184&tree=LEO

Olivier V «Le Connétable», «Le Boucher», «Le Borgne» de Clisson Seigneur de Clisson, Comte de Porhoët, Connetable de France1,2

M, #62037, b. 23 April 1336, d. 23 April 1407
FatherOlivier IV de Clisson seigneur de Clisson, Blain, Belleville et Châteaumur, baron de Mirebeau2 b. a 1300, d. c 2 Aug 1343
MotherJeanne de Belleville dame de Montaigu, La Gamache, Palluau, Beauvoir-sur-Mer, Châteaumur2
Last Edited5 Feb 2010
     Olivier V «Le Connétable», «Le Boucher», «Le Borgne» de Clisson Seigneur de Clisson, Comte de Porhoët, Connetable de France was born on 23 April 1336 at Clisson, France; van de Pas says b. ca 1330.1 He married Béatrix (alias Catherine, Marguerite) de Laval Dame de Villemomble, daughter of Guy X de Laval Sire de Laval et de Vitre and Beatrix de Dreux Dame de Hede, on 12 February 1361 at Vitré, France; his 1st wife.1,3,2 Olivier V «Le Connétable», «Le Boucher», «Le Borgne» de Clisson Seigneur de Clisson, Comte de Porhoët, Connetable de France married Marguerite de Rohan, daughter of Alain VII (?) Vcte de Rohan and Jeanne de Rostrenen, circa 1378; her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife.4,2
Olivier V «Le Connétable», «Le Boucher», «Le Borgne» de Clisson Seigneur de Clisson, Comte de Porhoët, Connetable de France died on 23 April 1407 at Josselin, France, at age 71.1,3,2
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: vol III page 115.
2. Histoire et Genealogie des maisons de Rohan, Chabot, de Rohan-Chabot. , Georges Martin, Reference: vol II page 57/62/241.
3. Histoire genealogique et chronologique de la maison royale de France, des pairs et des grandes officieres de la Couronne, Père Anselme, Reference: Mike Talbot
4. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIV 137.1

; per Racines et Histoires: "Olivier V de Clisson dit «Le Connétable», «Le Boucher», «Le Borgne»
ou «L’Eborgné d’Auray»
° ~23/04/1336 (Clisson) + 22-23/04/1407
(Josselin, Morbihan, château acheté en 1370) seigneur de Clisson, Josselin, Belleville, Montagu, La Garnache, Yerrick et Beauvoir, vicomte de Porhoët par apanage royal), rallié au parti français (10/1369), Lieutenant royal en Touraine, Maine, Anjou et Poitou (26/04/1371), Lieutenant en Bretagne pour la comtesse de Penthièvre, veuve de Charles de Blois, Gouverneur de Nantes pour le Roi (~1373/74), Connétable de France (dès 23 ou plutôt 28/11/1380 - entre 25/09 et 12/1392, destitué et remplacé par Philippe d’Artois, comte d’Eu), X en Flandres (11/1382, Rosbeecke), sous-Lieutenant général en Bretagne pour Jean, comte de Penthièvre, spolié par le duc de Bretagne (06/01/1385),
(élevé en Angleterre après la mort de son père avec le jeune Jean IV de Montfort, chevalier (1358), commandant de troupes anglo-bretonnes, récupère les biens de sa mère (30/12/1359), capitaine de Quimerch, rentre dans tous ses biens au Traité de Brétigny (08/05/1360 : la Garnache, Beauvoi, Châteauceau - sauf Clisson resté aux Anglais ?), officier de Jean (IV) de Montfort (1363), fait merveille à Auray (29/09/1364) où il perd un oeil, le duc lui refuse le château de Gavre (près Blain, qu’il convoitait, et attribué à Jean Chandos ; il détruit ce château par dépit) signe le Traité de Guérande (12/04/1365), député par le duc vers Charles V (22/05/1365) ; le duc, ulcéré par le sac de Gavre, lui refuse la restitution de Châteauceaux ; Olivier lui fait savoir que : «Si je suis Olivier sans terre, vous ne serz point duc sans guerre !» (1365/66) ; le Roi lui restitue ses places de Beauvoir et de La Ganache confisquées à Brétigny, passe au parti français dès 1369 et fait alliance d’armes 24/10/1370 à Pontorson avec Bertrand du Guesclin, X à Pontvallain (Maine, contre Thomas de Granson), X les Anglais en Poitou (1372), prend Quimperlé (1373), assiège La Roche-sur-Yon, assiégé à son tour et sauvé à Quimperlé par le Traité du 27/06/1375, bloque Brest et prend Auray (1378), (Eon[ de Lesnerac est son capitaine du château de Clisson), agressé (fête du Saint-Sacrement 14/06/1391) par Pierre de Craon, seigneur de Sablé (cause de l’expédition royale théâtre de la 1ère crise de folie de Charles VI à la sortie du Mans) , réconciliation avec le duc de Bretagne (traité de Rieux du 19/10/1395) (partage de ses biens entre ses 2 filles par testament du 05/02/1407)]
ép. 1) 12/02/1361 (Vitré) Béatrix (alias Catherine, Marguerite) de Laval, dame de Villemomble (~1361) + après 01/1365 (fille de Gui X de Laval et de Béatrice de Bretagne)
ép. 2) ~1378 Marguerite de Rohan ° ~1335 (fille d’Alain VII, vicomte de Rohan ; soeur de Jean 1er, vicomte de Rohan ; veuve de Robert de Beaumanoir.)2"

Family 2

Marguerite de Rohan b. c 1335

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Olivier V de Clisson: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005748&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Clisson.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Morency 1 page - Montmorency family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/morency/morency1.html
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Rohan 1 page - Family de Rohan: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/rohan/rohan1.html
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Béatrix de Clisson: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005746&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Clisson: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005184&tree=LEO
  7. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Clisson.pdf, p. 6.

Margot (Marguerite) dite «L’Intrépide» de Clisson dame de Chantoceaux, Montfaucon et Palluau1,2

F, #62038, b. 1366, d. 1441
FatherOlivier V «Le Connétable», «Le Boucher», «Le Borgne» de Clisson Seigneur de Clisson, Comte de Porhoët, Connetable de France1,2 b. 23 Apr 1336, d. 23 Apr 1407
MotherBéatrix (alias Catherine, Marguerite) de Laval Dame de Villemomble1 d. a Jan 1365
Last Edited5 Feb 2010
     Margot (Marguerite) dite «L’Intrépide» de Clisson dame de Chantoceaux, Montfaucon et Palluau was born in 1366.2 She married Jean I de Châtillon de Blois Comte de Penthièvre et de Goëllo, vicomte de Limoges, seigneur d’Avaugour, Avesnes et Laigle, son of Charles de Chatillon Count of Blois, Duc de Bretagne and Jeanne "le Boiteuse" de Dreux Dss de Bretagne, on 20 January 1387.3,1
Margot (Marguerite) dite «L’Intrépide» de Clisson dame de Chantoceaux, Montfaucon et Palluau died in 1441.2
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: Cahiers de Saint Louis Magazine. , Jacques Dupont, Jacques Saillot, Reference: page 10.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Clisson: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005184&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Clisson.pdf, p. 6. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jean de Châtillon de Blois: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005183&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume de Châtillon de Blois: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028465&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Charles de Châtillon de Blois: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005136&tree=LEO

Jean I de Châtillon de Blois Comte de Penthièvre et de Goëllo, vicomte de Limoges, seigneur d’Avaugour, Avesnes et Laigle1,2

M, #62039, b. circa 1340, d. between 16 January 1403 and 1404
FatherCharles de Chatillon Count of Blois, Duc de Bretagne3,1,2 b. 1319, d. 29 Sep 1364
MotherJeanne "le Boiteuse" de Dreux Dss de Bretagne1,2 b. 1319, d. 1384
Last Edited5 Feb 2010
     Jean I de Châtillon de Blois Comte de Penthièvre et de Goëllo, vicomte de Limoges, seigneur d’Avaugour, Avesnes et Laigle was born circa 1340.2 He married Margot (Marguerite) dite «L’Intrépide» de Clisson dame de Chantoceaux, Montfaucon et Palluau, daughter of Olivier V «Le Connétable», «Le Boucher», «Le Borgne» de Clisson Seigneur de Clisson, Comte de Porhoët, Connetable de France and Béatrix (alias Catherine, Marguerite) de Laval Dame de Villemomble, on 20 January 1387.1,4
Jean I de Châtillon de Blois Comte de Penthièvre et de Goëllo, vicomte de Limoges, seigneur d’Avaugour, Avesnes et Laigle died between 16 January 1403 and 1404.1,2
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: vol VII page 18.
2. Cahiers de Saint Louis Magazine. , Jacques Dupont, Jacques Saillot, Reference: page 10.4

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jean de Châtillon de Blois: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005183&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Clisson.pdf, p. 6. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Charles de Châtillon de Blois: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005181&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Clisson: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005184&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume de Châtillon de Blois: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028465&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Charles de Châtillon de Blois: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005136&tree=LEO

Jeanne d'Harcourt Dame de l'Aigle1,2

F, #62040, d. after 1346
FatherJean II "le Preux" (?) Baron d'Harcourt, Vcte de Saint-Sauveur, Admiral of France1,2 d. 21 Dec 1302
MotherJeanne (?) Vicomtesse de Châtellerault2,1 b. c 1235, d. 16 May 1315
Last Edited18 Mar 2020
     Jeanne d'Harcourt Dame de l'Aigle married Henri IV d'Avaugour Seigneur d'Avaugour, de Goello et de Mayenne, son of Henri III d'Avaugour Seigneur de Mayenne and Marie de Brienne.1,3,2
Jeanne d'Harcourt Dame de l'Aigle died after 1346.2
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Histoire et Genealogie de la Maison de Harcourt 1974, Georges Martin, Reference: 66
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: X 124.1 She was living between 1331 and 1346.1,2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jeanne d'Harcourt: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028914&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Harcourt 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/harcourt/harcourt2.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri IV: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013408&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite d'Avaugour: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00090480&tree=LEO