John Forbes 6th Lord Forbes1,2

M, #20762
FatherWilliam "Gray Willie" Forbes 3rd Lord Forbes2 d. bt 9 Jul 1477 - 5 Jul 1483
MotherLady Christian Gordon2
Last Edited27 Apr 2018
     John Forbes 6th Lord Forbes married Lady Catherine Stewart, daughter of Sir John Stewart of Balveny, 1st Earl of Atholl and Lady Eleanor Sinclair; his 1st wife.2,3 John Forbes 6th Lord Forbes married Christian Lundin, daughter of John Lundin of that Ilk, before 26 February 1510; his 2nd wife.2 John Forbes 6th Lord Forbes married Elizabeth Barlow/Berlay before 29 July 1515; his 3rd wife.2,4
     ; JOHN FORBES, 6th Lord Forbes; m 1st Catherine, dau of 1st Earl of Atholl of the 1457 cr (see MORAY, E), and had a s (James, d young) and a dau (Elizabeth, m John Grant of Freuchie; see STRATHSPEY, B); m 2nd by 26 Feb 1509/10 Christian, dau of John Lundin of that Ilk, and by her had issue. The 6th Lord m 3rd by 29 July 1515 Elizabeth, widow of 1st Lord Elphinstone (qv) and dau of - Barlow/Berlay, and d 1547.2 John Forbes 6th Lord Forbes was 6th Lord Forbes.2

Family 3

Elizabeth Barlow/Berlay d. 1518
Children

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Forbes Family Page.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lady Catherine Stewart: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00006030&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Elphinstone Family Page.
  5. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Innes Ker - Dukes of Roxburghe Family Page.

Margaret Stewart1

F, #20763
FatherJohn Stewart PC, 4th Earl of Atholl1 d. 24 May 1547
MotherElizabeth Gordon1
Last Edited25 Nov 2002

Family

George Abernethy 7th Lord Saltoun d. 27 Apr 1590

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Fraser Lords Saltoun Family Page.

Griffith Dunn

M, #20764, b. 1407, d. after 1443
FatherMeredith Dunn b. 1381
MotherMabel Verch Griffith b. 1385
Last Edited11 Nov 1999
     Griffith Dunn married Joan Scudamore, daughter of John Scudamore and Alice Glendowner. Griffith Dunn was born in 1407 at York Castle, Yorkshire, England.
Griffith Dunn died after 1443.

Family

Joan Scudamore b. 1409
Child

Joan Scudamore

F, #20765, b. 1409
FatherJohn Scudamore b. 1383
MotherAlice Glendowner b. 1385
Last Edited11 Nov 1999
     Joan Scudamore married Griffith Dunn, son of Meredith Dunn and Mabel Verch Griffith. Joan Scudamore was born in 1409 at Holme Lacy, Herefordshire, England.

Family

Griffith Dunn b. 1407, d. a 1443
Child

Meredith Dunn

M, #20766, b. 1381
Last Edited13 Nov 1999
     Meredith Dunn married Mabel Verch Griffith. Meredith Dunn was born in 1381.

Family

Mabel Verch Griffith b. 1385
Child

Mabel Verch Griffith

F, #20767, b. 1385
Last Edited13 Nov 1999
     Mabel Verch Griffith married Meredith Dunn. Mabel Verch Griffith was born in 1385.

Family

Meredith Dunn b. 1381
Child

John Scudamore

M, #20768, b. 1383
Last Edited13 Nov 1999
     John Scudamore was born in 1383 at Kentchurch. He married Alice Glendowner, daughter of Owain Glyn Dwr ap Gruffydd Prince of Wales and Margaret Hanmer, in 1401 at Trefgam, co. Pembroke, South Wales.

Family

Alice Glendowner b. 1385
Child

Alice Glendowner

F, #20769, b. 1385
FatherOwain Glyn Dwr ap Gruffydd Prince of Wales1,2 b. c 1354, d. c 1416
MotherMargaret Hanmer3,2
Last Edited2 Jul 2006
     Alice Glendowner was born in 1385 at Trefgam, co. Pembroke, South Wales. She married John Scudamore in 1401 at Trefgam, co. Pembroke, South Wales.
     Alice Glendowner was also known as Alice|Alys|Elizabeth.2

Family

John Scudamore b. 1383
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Owain Glyndwr: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00232093&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice|Alys|Elizabeth: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00259688&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret Hanmer: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00324806&tree=LEO

Anne Hastings1

F, #20770, b. circa 1423
FatherSir Leonard Hastings Knt., of Kirkby Muxloe, Leicestershire1 b. c 1397, d. 20 Oct 1455
MotherAlice Camoys1 d. a 20 Oct 1455
Last Edited23 Jul 2017
     Anne Hastings married Sir Thomas Ferrers 2nd Lord of Tamworth Castle, son of Thomas Ferrers Esq., of Tamworth and Elizabeth Freville.2,3,4 Anne Hastings was born circa 1423 at Kirby Castle, Leicestershire, England.1

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I47277
  2. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I7529
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Thomas Ferrers, of Tamworth: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177532&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S3037] Brad Verity, "Verity email 9 March 2015: "OT: Edward I Descent for Mary Clagett, Mrs Howard (1872-1946)"," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (e-mail address) to e-mail address, 9 March 2015. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 9 March 2015."
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177538&tree=LEO
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Ferrers.pdf: p. 8. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John Ferrers, Heir of Tamworth Castle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177534&tree=LEO

Sir Thomas Ferrers 2nd Lord of Tamworth Castle1,2,3

M, #20771, b. circa 1420, d. 22 August 1498
FatherThomas Ferrers Esq., of Tamworth4,2,5,6,3 b. c 1402, d. 6 Jan 1458/59
MotherElizabeth Freville4,2,5,7,3 b. c 1394
Last Edited23 Jul 2017
     Sir Thomas Ferrers 2nd Lord of Tamworth Castle married Anne Hastings, daughter of Sir Leonard Hastings Knt., of Kirkby Muxloe, Leicestershire and Alice Camoys.1,3,8 Sir Thomas Ferrers 2nd Lord of Tamworth Castle was born circa 1420 at Tamworth, Staffordshire, England; Verity says b. 1422: "A8) Sir Thomas Ferrers of Tamworth Castle (1422-1498) m. Anne Hastings (b. c.1429)..."1,8
Sir Thomas Ferrers 2nd Lord of Tamworth Castle died on 22 August 1498.3
     ; van de Pas cites: The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: P 49695.3

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I7529
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers of Groby, co. Leicester, p. 199. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Thomas Ferrers, of Tamworth: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177532&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I7009
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Clarke 13: p. 210. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Thomas Ferrers, of Tamworth: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177530&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Freville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177531&tree=LEO
  8. [S3037] Brad Verity, "Verity email 9 March 2015: "OT: Edward I Descent for Mary Clagett, Mrs Howard (1872-1946)"," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (e-mail address) to e-mail address, 9 March 2015. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 9 March 2015."
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177538&tree=LEO
  10. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Ferrers.pdf: p. 8. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John Ferrers, Heir of Tamworth Castle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177534&tree=LEO

John de Somery 1st (last) Lord Somery1,2

M, #20772, b. 1278, d. 29 December 1321
FatherRoger de Somery Baron Dudley3 b. 24 Jun 1255, d. 11 Oct 1291
MotherAgnes (?)3 d. 23 Nov 1308
Last Edited18 May 2004
     John de Somery 1st (last) Lord Somery was born in 1278.1
John de Somery 1st (last) Lord Somery died on 29 December 1321.1
     He was 1st and last Lord (Baron) Somery of the 1308 cr in 1308.2

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I10517
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Baroness Dudley Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S1637] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 13 May 2004: "Possible Identification of Juliana, wife of Robert de Chaucombe"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/fVGUjhV53I8/m/txhvX4TJk2oJ) to e-mail address, 13 May 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 13 May 2004."

Sir William de Munchensy Knt., of Edwardstone, Suffolk1,2,3

M, #20773, b. circa 1230, d. before 15 May 1302
Last Edited6 Sep 2008
     Sir William de Munchensy Knt., of Edwardstone, Suffolk was born circa 1230; Richardson says "aged 24 in 1254."2 He married Beatrice de Beauchamp, daughter of Sir William de Beauchamp Knt., Lord Beauchamp of Bedford and Ida (or Idonea) de Longespee, before 26 June 1278; her 2nd husband.4,2,5,3
Sir William de Munchensy Knt., of Edwardstone, Suffolk died before 15 May 1302.6,2
     ; van de Pas cites: Europaische Stammtafeln, J. A. Stargdt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: V 105.1 Sir William de Munchensy Knt., of Edwardstone, Suffolk was also known as William de Montchensy.6

Family

Beatrice de Beauchamp b. c 1218, d. b 30 Sep 1285
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Muncheny, of Edwardstone: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036673&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Botetourt 5: p. 135. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Derehaugh: p. 266.
  4. [S1764] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email #1 29 Aug 2005 "Botetourt descent from Berkeley ancestor, Robert Fitz Harding (died 1171)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email #1 29 Aug 2005."
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice de Beauchamp: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00370359&tree=LEO
  6. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I10758
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Muncheny: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00414791&tree=LEO

Matilda/Maud Fitz Thomas1,2,3,4

F, #20774, b. circa 1271, d. 28 May 1329
FatherSir Thomas Fitz Otes Knt., of Belchamp, Gestingthorpe, and Gosfeud,1,2,4 b. c 1231, d. b 28 Mar 1274
MotherBeatrice de Beauchamp1,2,4 b. c 1218, d. b 30 Sep 1285
ReferenceGAV23 GKJ22
Last Edited14 Nov 2020
     Matilda/Maud Fitz Thomas was born circa 1271; Richardson says she was 11 in 1282.1,3 She married John de Botetourt 1st Baron Botetourt, son of Sir Guy III Botetourte Knt., of of Ellinghall, Norfolk and Ada (?), circa 1 July 1285; Richardson says m. bef June 1282.1,2,5,3,4
Matilda/Maud Fitz Thomas died on 28 May 1329.6
     GAV-23 GKJ-22.

; In 1990 F.N. Craig published an excellent article entitled "Descent
from a Domesday Goldsmith," in which he traced the extended male line
ancestry of Maud Fitz Thomas, wife of John Botetourt, Knt., 1st Lord
Botetourt, back to one Otes the Goldsmith, a Domesday tenant at
Gestingthorpe, Essex [Reference: The American Genealogist, 65 (1990): 24-32]. Checking various online genealogical databases, it appears
that Mr. Craig's article has been all but ignored.

For simplicity, the descent will be summarized below as follows:

1. Otes the Goldsmith, Domesday tenant in 1086; he held the office of
the royal mint as king's goldsmith. He held lands at Gestingthorpe,
Essex, Lisson Green (in Marylebone), Middlesex, and Hawstead, Suffolk.
He married (1st) Leofgifu; (2nd) Edeva.
2. Otes Fitz Otes, of Benfleet, Childerditch, and Lisson Green, son and
heir by his father's 1st wife, succeeded his father at the mint in
1101. In 1108 the king granted him his land of Benfleet with
Childerditch in Essex.
3. William Fitz Otes, of Benfleet, Childerditch, Lisson Green, son and
heir. In 1116-27 the king confirmed to William Fitz Otes the goldsmith
the "ministerium cuneorum" (the dies) which his father, Otes, used to
render. He occurs 1121-1178. He married Gille.
4. Otes Fitz William, of Essex, Sheriff of Essex and Hertfordshire,
1181-82, son and heir. He died about 1194. He married Margery, who
survived him. She was holding one fee in Essex of the honor of
Gloucester (Red Book, pg. 610). She was living in 1207.
5. William Fitz Otes, son and heir, of Gestingthorpe and Belchamp,
Essex, and Lisson Green, Middlesex. He married Maud de Dive, daughter
of William de Dive, by Maud de Waterville. He was living about 1213,
and died before 1217/18. His widow, Maud, married (2nd) Richard Fitz
Hugh.
6. Otes Fitz William, of Belchamp, Gestingthorpe, and Gosfeud, Essex,
and Lisson Green, Middlesex, son and heir, of age in or before 1219.
The name of his wife is not known. He died in 1257.
7. Thomas Fitz Otes, Knt., of Belchamp, Gestingthorpe, and Gosfeud,
Essex, 2nd son, born about 1231 (aged 30 in 1261). He married Beatrice
Beauchamp, daughter of William de Beauchamp, by Ida, daughter of
William Longespee, Earl of Salisbury. In 1265 he was given the scrap
iron from the broken dies, as his father and ancestors had had. He
died in 1274. His widow, Beatrice, married William de Munchensy.
8. Maud Fitz Thomas, born about 1271 (aged 11 in 1282). She married
John Botetourt, Knt., 1st Lord Botetourt. In 1329 she sold the office
of graver and worker of the dies in the Tower of London and city of
Canterbury to her son-in-law, William le Latimer.

To date no one to my knowledge has identified Margery, wife of Otes
Fitz William (Gen. 4 above). However, charter evidence has survived
which conclusively proves that she was the daughter of Robert Fitz
Harding (died 1171), merchant of Bristol, male line ancestor of the
baronial Berkeley family [see Complete Peerage, 2 (1912): 124-125 (sub Berkeley)]. The three charters below are taken from the published
cartulary of St. Mary Clerkenwell. The first charter is a grant dated
?1190/1206, in which Margaret specifically states she was the daughter
of Robert Fitz Harding [Note: The names Margaret and Margery were fully interchangeable in this time period]. The second is a charter dated c.
1221/2, by Otes Fitz William (Gen. 6 above) who confirms the earlier
grant of Margaret his grandmother ["aue mee"]. The third charter dated
1213/19 is a grant by Maurice de Gant, in which he refers to his aunt
["matertera mea'], Margaret, formerly wife of Otes Fitz William. This
charter is important as Maurice de Gant's father, Robert Fitz Robert,
is known to have been a younger son of Robert Fitz Harding, male line
ancestor of the Berkeley family [see John Smyth, Lives of the Berkeleys, 1 (1883): 20, 50-52, 65]. The third charter is also of
great historic interest, as it is witnessed by three individuals,
Robert Fitz Walter, Saier de Quincy, and Henry de Bohun, all of whom
were Magna Carta barons.

For interest's sake, I've listed immediately below the numerous 17th
Century New World colonists who descend from Maud Fitz Thomas, wife of
John Botetourt, Knt., 1st Lord Botetourt. These immigrants would
possess the newly outlined descent from Robert Fitz Harding (died 1171)
through his daughter, Margaret (or Margery), wife of Otes Fitz William.


Dannett Abney, Barbara Aubrey, Marmaduke Beckwith, John Bevan, William
Bladen, Thomas Booth, Elizabeth Bosvile, George, Giles, & Robert Brent,
Nathaniel Browne, Stephen Bull, Charles Calvert, Kenelm Cheseldine,
Grace Chetwode, Jeremy Clarke, Henry Corbin, Francis Dade, Frances,
Jane, & Katherine Deighton, George Elkington, Edward Foliot, Muriel
Gurdon, Katherine Hamby, Edmund Jennings, Thomas Ligon, Henry, Jane &
Nicholas Lowe, Gabriel, Roger, & Sarah Ludlow, Anne & Katherine
Marbury, Elizabeth Marshall, Anne Mauleverer, Philip & Thomas Nelson,
Thomas Owsley, John Oxenbridge, Anthony Savage, Mary Johanna Somerset,
Samuel & William Torrey, Olive Welby, Amy Willis, Thomas Wingfield.

For details of specific descents from Maud Fitz Thomas down to the
individual colonial immigrants, please see my book, Plantagenet
Ancestry (2004). Please contact me privately regarding ordering
information for the book.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt lake City, Utah

Website: www.royalancestry.net

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Charter No. 1:

"166. Margaret daughter of Robert son of Harding gives the land of
Baldwin de Nubelee and Edith his wife at North Nibley, Gloucestershire
for a pittance at Whitsun.

Date: ?1190/April 1206 (between no. 6 and the death of Osbert son of
Heruicus; see S.H.A. Hervey, Dictionary of All Herveys of all classes,
callings, counties and spellings, from 1040 to 1500 (Suffolk Green
Books, xx), vol. iii, pp. 12-16 (no. 1206) and vol. iv, pp. 204-205
(no. 2348)).
MS.: Cartulary, fos. 45r.-45v.

DE DONO MARGARETE QUE FUIT FILIA ROBERTI FILII HARDING' DE NUBESLEE.

Vniuersis Sancte matris ecclesie filiis ad quos presens scriptum
peruenerit Margareta que fuit filia Roberti filii Harding' salutem.

In vniuersitatis vestre noticiam volo peruenire me diuine pietatis
intuitu dedisse et concessisse et hac presenti carta mea confirmasse
deo et beate Marie de Clerkenwell' et sanctimonialibus ibidem deo
seruientibus pro salute anime mee et anime viri mei et heredum meorum
et antecessorum meorum in puram et perpetuam elemosinam et quietam ab
omni seruicio seculari totam terram quam Baldewinus de Nubelee et
Editha vxor eius tenuerunt de me in Nubilee cum omnibus pertinenciis
suis sine vllo retinemento in pitanciam quolibet anno predictis
sanctimonialibus in die pentecostes tenendam ipsis in perpetuum de me
et heredibus meis. Quare volo quod predicte sanctimoniales totam
predictam terram habeant teneant et possideant in puram et perpetuam
elemosinam in perpetuum possidendam liberam et quietam ab omni
exaccione que super terram poterit contingere. Et ego Margareta et
heredes mei warrantizabimus totam predictam terram predictis
sanctimonialibus contra omnes homines et feminas. Hanc donacionem feci
eis in viduitate mea de meo libero patrimonio. Et quia volo quod
stabilis sit et inconcussa eam sigilla mei apposicione roboraui. Hiis
testibus. Osberto filio Heruei. Willelmo de Warenn'. Hugone
Peuerel." [Reference: W.O. Hassall, Cartulary of St. Mary Clekenwell (Camden 3rd ser. 71) (1949): 104-105].

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Charter No. 2:

"167. Otto son of William confirms the above grant of Margaret his
grandmother.

Date: c. 1221/2 (the Prioress brought a plea of assize of novel
disseizin against Otto touching a tenement in Nibley: Rolls of the
Justices in Eyre, 1221-2 [Selden Soc., lix. 1940], nos. 78 and 211, pp.
24, 85-86.

MS.: Cartulary, fo. 45v.

DE CONFIRMATIONE OTHONIS FILII WILLELMI.

Omnibus Sancte matris ecclesie filiis ad quos presens scriptum
peruenerit Otho filius Willelmi salutem. Nouerit Vniuersitas vestra me
ratam habere et hac presenti carta mea confirmasse donacionem and
concedessionem quam Margareta que fuit filia Roberti filii Harding
fecit deo et ecclesie beate Marie de Clerkenwell' et santimonialibus
ibidem deo seruientibus de tota terra cum pertinentiis quam Baldewynus
de Nubelee et Edith vxor eius tenuerunt de eadem Margareta in eadem
villa habendam et tenendam predictis sanctimonialibus et earum
successoribus in puram et perpetuam elemosinam pro salute anime mee et
antecessorum meorum ita libere et quiete sicut carta Margarete aue mee
testatur. Hanc autem predictam terram integre cum omnibus petinentiis
suis ego dictus Otho filius Willelmi et heredes mei warantizabimus
predictis sanctimonialibus et earum successoribus contra omnes homines
et feminas in perpetuum. Et vt hec mea concessio et warantisio
perpetue firmitatis robur obtineant hanc presentem cartam sigilli meo
munimine roboraui. Hiis testibus. Dominus Henrico de Berkelay.
Henrico de Wantham. Stephano de Stranda. Petro de Eulee."
[Reference: W.O. Hassall, Cartulary of St. Mary Clekenwell (Camden 3rd ser. 71) (1949): 105-106].

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Charter No. 3:

"38. Grant by Maurice de Gant of all the rent in Dursley,
Gloucestershire which he bought from Margaret wife of Otes Fitz William
excepting his wood for which a compensation is to be paid elsewhere.

Date: 1213/19 (Maurice de Gant had royal license to marry Maud, only
child of Henry d'Oilly, in 1213. See Foss, Judges of England, ii. 345,
and Rotuli de Finibus, 469. Saer de Quincy died in 1219).
MS.: Cartulary, fo. 16v.
Printed: Monasticon, iv. 84.
Cited: Sir Henry Barkly in Bristol and Glouc. Arch. Soc. Trans., xi.
232-233.

DE DONO MAURICII DE GANT DE DERESLEA.

Omnibus Christi fidelibus ad quos presens scriptum peruenerit Mauricius
de Gant salutem. Noueritis me pro salute anime mee et Matildis vxoris
mee et omnium antecessorum et successorum meorum dedisse et confirmasse
et hac presenti carta mea confirmasse deo et Beate Marie et
sanctimonialibus de Clerekenw'll' ibidem deo seruientibus in puram et
perpetuam elemosinam totum redditum meum quem habui in manerio de
Derslea videlicet quem emi de Margareta matertera mea que fuit vxor
Othonis filii Willelmi, retento tamen in manu mea bosco meo quem ibidem
habeo et eiusdem custodia: ita scilicet quod in certo redditu alibi in
terris meis prefatum redditum quantum ad custodiam prefati bosci
pertinet prescriptis sanctimonialibus plenarie perficiam. Et ego
Mauricius et heredes mei warrantizare debemus predictum redditum dictis
monialibus contra omnes homines et feminas. Vt autem hec mea donatio et
concessio firma et inconcussa permaneat presens scriptum sigilli mei
appositione roboraui. Hiis testibus. Roberto filio Walteri. Saero de
Quinci comite Winton'. Henrico de Boun." [Reference: W.O. Hassall, Cartulary of St. Mary Clekenwell (Camden 3rd ser. 71) (1949): 28-29].1

; van de Pas cites: The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: vol 1 18.4 She was living on 28 May 1329; per Richardson "...when she sold the hereditary office of coiner of the Mint to her son-in-law William le Latimer."3,4

Citations

  1. [S1764] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email #1 29 Aug 2005 "Botetourt descent from Berkeley ancestor, Robert Fitz Harding (died 1171)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email #1 29 Aug 2005."
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 63. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Botetourt 6: p. 136. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Matilda FitzThomas: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00262824&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John de Botetourt: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00262823&tree=LEO
  6. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I10752
  7. [S920] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=ulsterboyd, Ronald E. Boyd (unknown location), downloaded updated 9 May 2001, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ulsterboyd&id=I32199
  8. [S2186] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 26 Sept 2007: "Botetourt Family Pedigree"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 26 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 26 Sept 2007."
  9. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Gurdon 7: p. 365.
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Otho de Botetourt, of Mendlesham: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029092&tree=LEO
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas de Botetourt: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00262827&tree=LEO
  12. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Helion 7: p. 394.
  13. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Bevan: p. 104.
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ada de Botetourt: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00370361&tree=LEO
  15. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Saint Philibert 7: p. 633.
  16. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Scampston 7: pp. 643-4.

John de Botetourt 1st Baron Botetourt1,2

M, #20775, b. circa 1258, d. 25 November 1324
FatherSir Guy III Botetourte Knt., of of Ellinghall, Norfolk3,4,5,2 d. 1316
MotherAda (?)3,4,5,2
ReferenceGAV23
Last Edited7 Oct 2020
     John de Botetourt 1st Baron Botetourt was born circa 1258.6 He married Matilda/Maud Fitz Thomas, daughter of Sir Thomas Fitz Otes Knt., of Belchamp, Gestingthorpe, and Gosfeud, and Beatrice de Beauchamp, circa 1 July 1285; Richardson says m. bef June 1282.7,8,1,2,9
John de Botetourt 1st Baron Botetourt died on 25 November 1324.1,10,2
     ; In 1998 the noted author, F.N. Craig, published a brilliant article entitled "The Parentage of John Botetourt" which was published in The American Genealogist, 63 (1988) 145-153. In his article, Mr. Craig identified Sir John Botetourt, 1st Lord Botetourt (died 1324), as the son of Guy Botetourt, Knt., of Upton, Ellingham, and Kerebrook, Norfolk, by his wife, Ada. I have not restudied Mr. Craig's article, but I believe he based his identification of Sir John Botetourt's parentage on the passage of lands from Sir Guy Botetourt to Sir John Botetourt, among them the manors of Upton, Ellingham, and Kerebrook, Norfolk.

In the intervening time, I posted here on the newsgroup further
evidence which confirmed Mr. Craig's identification (see copy of my
earlier post below). I found one record in which Sir John Botetourt is
stated to have had a brother, Robert, and another record in which
Robert Botetourt, a priest, is called a son of Guy Botetourt. I also
showed that Sir John Botetourt named a daughter, Ada, presumably in
honor of his mother.

Recently I found still more evidence to confirm Mr. Craig's
identification. The Proceedings of the Society of Antiquaries, 2nd
ser. 4 (1869): 200-201 has an interesting article by C.S. Perceval, in
which Mr. Perceval discusses a deed dated 1323 issued by Master Roger
Boteturte, son of Sir Guy Boteturte (described in the deed as 'nobilis
vir' [i.e., nobleman]).

Mr. Perceval adds the following statement: "Of Roger Boteturte and his
brother, Robert, who, as appears by another deed relating to this
property, had been jointly enfeoffed with him by their father, I find
no particulars."

So, once again we find a reference to Robert Botetourt, and Mr.
Perceval shows that he was the brother of Master Roger Botetourt, son
of Sir Guy Botetourt.

Given that John Botetourt had a brother, Robert, who was the son of Sir
Guy Botetourt, and given that Robert Botetourt had a brother, Roger,
who was a son of Sir Guy Botetourt, I believe that, together with the
passage of the three manors, these records provide conclusive evidence
that Sir John, Robert, and Roger Botetourt were all sons of Sir Guy
Botetourt.

Lastly, I might note that Master Roger Botetourt is called nobleman in
his deed. This suggests to me that the Botetourt family probably has
something important in their ancestry which has not yet been detected.

Comment are invited.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: www.royalancestry.net

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From: royalances...@msn.com (Douglas Richardson) - Find messages by
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Date: 20 Oct 2002 15:47:31 -0700

Dear Newsgroup ~

Someone wrote me this week that they were surprised to learn that John
Botetourt, Knt., lst Lord Botetourt (died 1324), was the son of Guy
Botetourt, Knt., of Upton, Ellingham, and Kerebrook, Norfolk, rather
than a bastard son of King Edward I as they previously thought was the
case. In replying back to the person, I realized I had additional
evidence in my files to support John Botetourt's correct parentage.

In the book, Records of the Wardrobe and Household, 1286-1289 (1986),
by B.F. Byerly, reference is made on pg. 258 to Robert brother of John
Botetourt. In Calendar of Entries in the Papal Registers: Letters 2
(1895): 15, reference is made in 1306 to Robert son of Guy Botetourt,
a priest. I presume the same Robert Botetourt is involved in both
records. If correct, taken together, these two records would indicate
that John and Robert Botetourt were sons of Guy Botetourt.

Beyond that, I've noted in an earlier post that my research indicates
that John Botetourt, Knt., lst Lord Botetourt, had a hitherto
unnoticed daughter, Ada, who married John de St. Philibert, Knt., of
Eaton Hastings, co. Berks. The name Ada presumably derives from John
Botetourt's mother, Ada, wife of Guy Botetourt. Several immigrants
descend from Ada Botetourt, wife of John de St. Philibert.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

E-mail: royalances...@msn.com.3

; [illegitimate by a dau.of the Earl of Kildare] John Walter Fitzroy de Botetourte, +25.11.1324.)10

; "John de Botetourt, governor of St. Briavel's Castle, co. Gloucester, and admiral of the king's fleet in the reigns of Edward I. and Edward II., was summoned to parliament as a Baron by the latter monarch, from 10 March, 1308, to 13 September, 1324. His lordship m. Matilda, sister and heiress of Otto Fitz Thomas, and dau. of Thomas Fitz Otho, by Beatrix his wife, dau. and coheir of William de Beauchamp, Baron of Bedford, by whom he had issue,
I. Thomas, who m. Johanna, dau. of Roger de Somery, and sister and co-heiress of John de Somery, Baron of Dudley, and dying before his father left an only son, John, who s. his grandfather.
II. John, of Gestingthorp and Belchamp Otho, in Essex, who d. 1339, left, by Margaret his wife (who d. 1376), a son and heir,
John, who m. Johanna, dau. and heiress of John Gernon, and left an only dau. and heiress,
Johanna m. to Sir Robert Swynburne, Knt.
III. Otho, of Mendlesham, m., and had issue,
John, who m. Catherine, dau. of Sir William Wayland, Knt., and had an only dau. and heiress,
Joane, m. to John, son and heir of Sir John Knyvet, Knt.
IV. Robert.
I. Elizabeth, m. 1st, to William, Lord Latimer, and 2ndly, to Robert Ufford.
II. Johanna, contracted to Robert, son and heir of Robert Fitzwalter, Lord of Wodeham, in Essex.
Lord Botetourt, who was one of the eminent military characters of the reign of Edward I., took a leading part in the Scottish wars of that monarch, and was entrusted with the government of the strongest castles, the command of the fleet, and other duties of the highest importance. His lordship d. in 1324, and was s. by his grandson, John, 2nd baron..."8

; van de Pas cites: 1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: vol 1 18
2. Genealogists' Magazine, Journal of the Society of Genealogists, London, Reference: june 1984 Patrick Montague Smith
3. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: II 233.1

; per Richardson: [quote]Please find below an updated and expanded account of Sir John
Botetourt, Knt., 1st Lord Botetourt, died 1324, and his wife, Maud
Fitz Thomas. The account provides new particulars of their life and
immediate family not posted previously. All of my sources are cited.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

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BOTETOURT FAMILY

1. JOHN BOTETOURT (or BOUTECOURTE, BOTECOURT, BUTECOURT), Knt., of
Ellingham, Cantley, Kerebrook, and Upton, Norfolk, and, in right of
his wife, of Mendlesham, Suffolk, Shelsley Beauchamp, Worcestershire,
etc., Admiral of the North Fleet, Warden of the Forest of Dean and
Constable of St. Briavels Castle, 1291-1308, Governor of Framlingham
Castle, Suffolk, son and heir of Guy Botetourt, Knt., of Ellingham,
Cantley, Cranworth, Fishley, Kimberley, and Upton, Norfolk, by his
wife, Ada. He began his household career as a falconer in the 1270s.
He married before June 1282 MAUD FITZ THOMAS, daughter of Thomas Fitz
Otes, Knt., of Mendlesham, Suffolk, Belchamp Otton, Gestingthorpe, and
Gosfield, Essex, and Hamerton, Huntingdonshire, hereditary coiner of
the Mint in the Tower of London and City of Canterbury, by Beatrice,
daughter of William de Beauchamp, Knt., of Bedford, Bedfordshire. She
was born about 1269-72 (aged 26 in 1295, aged 30 in 1302). They had
four sons, Thomas, Knt., John, K.B., Otes, Knt., and Robert, and
several daughters, including Joan (affianced to Robert Fitz Walter),
Ada, and Elizabeth. He first campaigned in Wales in 1282 as a squire
of the household. His wife, Maud, was co-heiress in 1283 to her
brother, Otes Fitz Thomas, and sole heiress in 1285 to her sister,
Joan, wife of Guy Ferre, by which she inherited the hereditary office
of coiner of the Mint, together with the manors of Mendlesham,
Suffolk, and Belchamp Otton, Gestingthorpe, and Gosfield, Essex,
Shelsley Beauchamp, Worcestershire, and a one-third share of the
barony of Bedford, Bedfordshire. In 1286 he claimed view of
frankpledge and free warren in Hamerton, Huntingdonshire. Sometime in
the period, 1291-1302, Maud was heiress to her cousin, Joan, daughter
of Hugh Fitz Otes, by which she inherited the manor of Isenhampstead
(in Chesham), Buckinghamshire. In 1292-1293 he was a justice of gaol
delivery in Warwickshire and Leicestershire. In 1294 when the king
faced the threat of French galleys raiding the south coast of England,
he appointed two household knights, William de Leybourne and John
Botetourt as captain and sub-captain of the fleet. In the following
year they were described as admirals-the first use of the term in
England. In 1296 he commanded 94 ships taken from ports between
Harwich and and King's Lynn, the great majority from Yarmouth. In
1298 and 1299 he served on four commissions of oyer and terminer. In
1300 he complained William de Wolcherchehaw, taverner, beat one of his
carters and did "other enormities;" the defendant came into court and
pledged a cask of wine to him. He was present at the Siege of
Caerlaverock Castle in 1300; the metrical chronicler of that siege
described him as "light of heart and doing good to all." He was one
of the barons who signed the letter to the Pope in 1301. In 1304 he
led a raid into Nithsdale with 130 cavalry and 1,770 infantry. The
same year the king ordered him to assist Robert de Brus, then on the
English side, in transporting one great engine in preparation of the
siege train for the siege of Stirling in Scotland. He was summoned to
Parliament from 13 July 1305 to 13 Sept. 1324, by writs directed
Johanni Botetourt, whereby he may be held to have become Lord
Botetourt. In 1305 he was appointed one of the justices of
trailbaston. The same year he was sent to treat with the Scots on the
affairs of that kingdom. In 1306 he enrolled himself as performing
the service of one knight in Scotland, but in fact he had a contingent
of three knights and eleven squires with him. In 1307 he again
commanded a raid against the Scots. In 1309-1310 William Fitz Walter
conveyed him and his wife, Maud, the manor of Great Bradley, Suffolk.
In 1310 he obtained a license to alienate lands and rents in
Mendlesham, Suffolk in mortmain to the value of 100s. for a chaplain
to celebrate in Mendlesham church. In 1311 he presented his brother,
Robert Botetourt, as rector of Great Bradley, Suffolk. In Oct. 1311
he and his wife, Maud, were granted the reversion of the manors of
Fulbourn, Cambridgeshire and Great Carbooke, Norfolk by Baldwin de
Manners, Knt., who died childless in 1320; John sold the former manor
to William la Zouche Mortimer, Knt., Lord Zouche, and Alice his wife
in 1323. In 1314 he commanded the fleet employed in the expedition
against Scotland. The same year Peter de Burgate, Knt., released all
his right in the manor of Mendlesham, Suffolk to him and his wife,
Maud. In 1315 he complained that those recruited for his company were
"feeble chaps, not strong enough, not properly dressed, and lacking
bows and arrows." In 1316 he presented his brother, Master Roger
Botetourt, as rector of Great Bradley, Suffolk. In 1318 he again
presented to the church of Great Bradley, Suffolk. In 1321 he and his
wife, Maud, sold the manor of Shelsley Beauchamp, Worcestershire to
John de Wysham, Knt., and his wife, Hawise de Poynings; about the same
time he also conveyed the manor of Ellingham, Norfolk to the same
couple. John joined the rebellion of Thomas, Earl of Lancaster, and
fought at the Battle of Boroughbridge 16 March 1321/2, for which he
was fined £1000, and was pardoned 8 Oct. 1322. In 1323 he and his
wife, Maud, conveyed the manor of Isenhampstead (in Chesham),
Buckinghamshire to Hugh le Despenser the younger, but, on Hugh's
execution and attainder in 1326, the manor escheated to the crown and
custody was re-granted to Maud Botetourt. In 1324 he paid the Italian
bankers, the Peruzzi, 100 marks, evidently in payment of a debt he
owed to Hugh le Despenser the younger. SIR JOHN BOTETOURT, 1st Lord
Botetourt, died 25 Nov. 1324. In 1327 his widow, Maud, sued Robert
son of John Botetourt, John de Wynchestre and others regarding
unspecified land in Suffolk. She was living 28 May 1329, when she
sold the hereditary office of coiner of the Mint to her son-in-law,
William le Latimer. She presumably died in or before 1330, when her
son, Otes Botetourt, obtained a license to alienate in mortmain a
messuage in Mendlesham, Suffolk to a chaplain to celebrate in the
parish church for the souls of John Botetourt and Maud his wife.

Note: The author F.N. Craig published a brilliant article entitled
"The Parentage of John Botetourt (died 1324)" in TAG 63 (1988): 145-
153, which article provides compelling evidence that Sir John
Botetourt, 1st Lord Botetourt, is the son and heir of Guy Botetourt,
Knt. (died c. 1316), of Ellingham, Norfolk, by his wife, Ada.
Specifically, Mr. Craig showed that Sir Guy Botetourt had the manors
of Ellingham (his chief seat), Uphall (in Cantley), and Upton, and
lands at Fishley, Norfolk, all of which passed to Sir John Botetourt,
1st Lord Botetourt, or his descendants. For additional evidence of
Sir John Botetourt's parentage, see Byerly Recs. of the Wardrobe and
Household 1286-1289 (1986): 258, which mentions Robert brother of John
Botetourt. Papal Regs.: Letters 2 (1895): 15 in turn names a Robert
son of Guy Botetourt, a priest, who was living in 1306. Presumably
the same Robert Botetourt is involved in both records. Elsewhere C.J.
Perceval in Procs. Soc. of Antiquaries of London 2nd ser. 4 (1869):
200-201 s[tates that Robert Botetourt is named in a contemporary deed
as brother to Master Roger Botetourt, which Roger is known to have
been a son of Sir Guy Botetourt [see, for example, Rye, Pedes Finium or Fines Rel. Cambridge (1891): 90]. Master Roger is likewise almost
certainly the same person as the Roger Botetourt who was rector of
Little Ellingham, Norfolk, which advowson was held by Sir John
Botetourt, 1st Lord Botetourt, in 1317 (see Watkin, Inventory of
Church Goods temp. Edward III (Norfolk Rec. Soc. 19(2)) (1948): 137,
215). Lastly, new research indicates that Sir John Boteourt appointed
Robert Botetourt as rector at Great Bradley, Suffolk in 1311, and
Master Roger Botetourt as rector of the same place in 1316. Taken
together, the various pieces of evidence and the close association of
these individuals make it clear that Sir John, Robert, and Master
Roger Botetourt were all sons of the elder Sir Guy Botetourt, Knt., of
Ellingham, Norfolk, who died c.1316].

References:

Parkin, An Essay Towards a Topographical Hist. of the County of
Norfolk 11 (1810): 133. Blore, Hist. & Antiq. of Rutland 1(2) (1811):
90, 209 (Botetourt Peds.) Palgrave, The Antient Kalendars and
Inventories of the Treasury of His Majesty's Exchequer 1 (1836): 102.
Ruding, Annals of the Coinage of Great Britain & its Dependencies 2
(1840): 194. Banks, Baronies in Fee 1 (1844): 131 (sub Botetourt).
Lipscomb, Hist. & Antiq. of Buckingham 4 (1847): 276 (Botetourt
pedigree). Foss, Judges of England 3 (1851): 38, 57-59 (biog. of John
de Botetourt). The Gentleman's Mag. (1855): 159. Notes & Queries 4th
ser. 4 (1869): 572; 4th ser. 5 (1870): 131-132. Burke, Dormant,
Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages (1883): 63-64 (sub
Botetourt). Procs. Suffolk Institute of Archæology & Natural Hist. 5
(1886): 259-261. Hill, A Hist. of Upton, Norfolk (1891): following 8
(Botetourt pedigree), 9-10. Rye, Pedes Finium or Fines Rel. the
County of Cambridge (1891): 89. Hardy, Cal. of Feet of Fines for
London & Middlesex 1 (1892): 220. C.P.R. 1292-1301 (1895): 458, 460-
461. Genealogist n.s. 14 (1897): 251. C.C.R. 1333-1337 (1898): 549,
552 (mentions "gift and grant" of Ellingham, Norfolk by John Botetourt
to John and Hawise de Wysham, for the service of a sparrow hawk).
Rye, Cal. of Feet of Fines for Suffolk (1900): 119, 152, 154. List of
Inqs. ad Quod Damnum 1 (PRO Lists and Indexes 17) (1904): 238, 252.
Desc. Cat. of Ancient Deeds 5 (1906): 129-130. D.N.B. 2 (1908): 909
(biog. of John de Bottetourt). VCH Bedford 2 (1908): 203, 256, 275; 3
(1912): 9-15, 46, 235. Copinger, Manors of Suffolk 3 (1909): 277-
281. Index of Placita de Banco 1327-1328 2 (PRO Lists and Indexes 32)
(1910): 603. C.P. 2 (1912): 233-235 (sub Botetourt); 4 (1916): 744-
745 (Appendix H); 5 (1926): 475-476 (sub FitzWalter); 8 (1932): 381,
footnote g (sub Manners). VCH Bedford 3 (1912): 13, 46, 96, 235,
330. Cal. IPMs 4 (1913): 64-65; 6 (1910): 367-368. Turner, Cal. of
the Feet of Fines rel. to the County of Huntingdon (1913): 45, 62.
Thomas, Cal. of Early Mayor's Court Rolls 1298-1307 (1924): 53, 59,
225. VCH Worcester 4 (1924): 331-334. VCH Buckinghamshire 3 (1925):
203-218, 387-391. Moor, Knights of Edward I 1 (H.S.P. 80) (1929): 122-
123. Salter, Boarstall Cartulary (Oxford Hist. Soc.1st ser. 88)
(1930): 300, 318. VCH Huntingdon 3 (1936): 67. Fowler, Cal. of IPMs
2 (Bedfords. Hist. Rec. Soc. 19) (1937): 150-151. Hatton, Book of
Seals (1950): 66-67. Sanders, English Baronies (1960): 10-12.
Denholm-Young, Hist. & Heraldry (1965): 38-39. Prestwich, War,
Politics and Finance under Edward I (1972): 57-58. DeWindt, Royal
Justice and the Medieval English Countryside 2 (1981): 562. Ellis,
Cat. of Seals in the P.R.O. 2 (1981): 15 (seal of John Botetourt dated
1315-Hung from a hook, between two wyverns, a shield of arms: a
saltire engrailed. Legend: ...GILL...IS:BOUTETOURTE. Very clear
impression, edge partly lost.) Prestwich "Royal Patronage under
Edward I" (13th Cent. England I) (1986): 46 ("The accounts of dona
suggest that Edward I was rather less generous than his son. John
Botetourt was not rewarded for his services as admiral with a gift of
£500 by Edward I, as he was by Edward II."). Fryde, Studies in
Medieval Trade & Finance (1983): 6. TAG 63 (1988): 145-153; 65
(1990): 24-32. Leese, Blood Royal (1996): 134 (incorrectly identifies
John Botetourt as illegitimate son of King Edward I of England).
Prestwich, Armies and Warfare in the Middle Ages: The English
Experience (1996): 43, 55, 73, 124, 168, 276, 280, 291. VCH
Gloucester 5 (1996): 413-415. Brault, Rolls of Arms Edward I (1272-
1307) 2 (1997): 65 (arms of John Botetourt: Or, a saltire indented
sable; he "sealed with a pierced cinquefoil, each leaf charged with a
saltire indented in 1297, 1301, 1307, 1310, 1315; his wife Maud
impaled these arms, 1310 and 1327"). Prestwich, Edward I (1997): 131-
132 ("Edward [I] appears to have been remarkably faithful to his
queens ... there is the curious inclusion of John Botetourt in a
genealogical table in a Hailes Abbey chronicle. His name appears to
be written over an erasure, and there is nothing in Botetourt's career
to suggest that he was an illegitimate son of the king. He first
appeared in royal service as a falconer, but rose to high rank,
becoming a banneret in 1298. He was of East Anglian gentry origin,
and became lord of Mendlesham through marriage. It is possible that
the scribe intended to put the name of Edward's daughter Elizabeth's
husband where Botetourt's now features. This evidence places no more
than a question mark against Edward's fidelity. Edward's grandfather
John and his great-grandfather Henry II had not been faithful
husbands, but attitudes and expectations changed in the thirteenth
century. Henry III's reputation had been impeccable, as of course had
that of Louis IX. It would have been surprising had Edward not
followed the precedent set by two kings whom he greatly admired. In
general terms, the Hailes chronicle is a reliable source, but in the
absence of any corroborative evidence, it is difficult to credit the
evidence of this genealogical table. It is worth noting that Edward
II's bastard son was duly acknowledged as such in a royal record,
there is no such evidence in the case of John Botetourt"). Rodger,
The Safeguard of the Sea (1998): 86, 131-132. VCH Cambridge 10
(2002): 136-143. Prestwich, The Three Edwards: War and State in
England, 1272-1377 (2003): 62, 75, 263. Barrow, Robert Bruce & the
Community of the Realm of Scotland (2005): 185, 212, 221.[end quote]11

; per Richardson: "The author F.N. Craig published a brilliant article entitled "The
Parentage of John Botetourte" in The American Genealogist, 63 (1988):
145-153, which article provided compelling evidence based on the
passage of lands that Sir John Botetourt, 1st Lord Botetourt (died
1324), was a son of Sir Guy Botetourt, of Upton, Ellingham, and
Kerebrook, Norfolk, by his wife, Ada. For further evidence of Sir
John Botetourt's parentage, see Byerly, Records of the Wardrobe and
Household 1286-1289 (1986): 258, which specifically mentions Robert
brother of John Botetourt. Papal Regs.: Letters 2 (1895): 15 names a
Robert son of Guy Botetourt, a priest, living in 1306. Presumably the
same Robert Botetourt is involved in both records. Elsewhere C.J.
Perceval in Proceedings of the Society of Antiquaries of London, 2nd
series, 4 (1869): 200-201 states that Robert Botetourt is named in a
contemporary deed as brother to Master Roger Botetourt, which Roger is
a known son of Sir Guy Botetourt. Taken together, the various pieces
of evidence make it clear that that Sir John, Robert, and Master Roger
Botetourt were all sons of Sir Guy Botetourt. Lastly, I might mention
that Sir John Botetourt, 1st Lord Botetourt, named a daughter, Ada, in
honor of his mother.

In short, the evidence is conclusive I think that Sir John Botetourt
was NOT an illegitimate son of King Edward I of England.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

On Sep 18, 11:14 pm, jon...@actrix.co.nz wrote:
< My understanding of Botecourt is that his the iilegitimate son of
< Edward ii,in which
< his attempting to recreate a title but is using of "court" rather
than
< using "leroy"
< Hugh.4 GAV-23 GKJ-22. John de Botetourt 1st Baron Botetourt was also known as Sir John Walter Fitzroy Tamworth 1st Lord Botetourte, of Mendlesham, suffold.6,12,8,10,4,5 He was 1st Lord Botetourt on 10 March 1308.8

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John de Botetourt: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00262823&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Botetourt 6: p. 136. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1767] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 31 Aug 2005 "C.P. Addition: Further evidence of John Botetourt's parentage"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 31 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 31 Aug 2005."
  4. [S2181] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 19 Sept 2007: "Parentage of Sir John Botetourt, 1st Lord Botetourt"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 19 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 19 Sept 2007."
  5. [S2186] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 26 Sept 2007: "Botetourt Family Pedigree"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 26 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 26 Sept 2007."
  6. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I10751
  7. [S1764] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email #1 29 Aug 2005 "Botetourt descent from Berkeley ancestor, Robert Fitz Harding (died 1171)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email #1 29 Aug 2005."
  8. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 63. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Matilda FitzThomas: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00262824&tree=LEO
  10. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Anjou 3 page (The House of Anjou): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/anjou/anjou3.html
  11. [S2188] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 28 Sept 2007: "Account of Sir John Botetourt, Knt.,     1st Lord Botetourt (died 1324) and his wife, Maud Fitz Thomas"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 28 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 28 Sept 2007."
  12. [S920] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=ulsterboyd, Ronald E. Boyd (unknown location), downloaded updated 9 May 2001, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ulsterboyd&id=I32199
  13. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Gurdon 7: p. 365.
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Otho de Botetourt, of Mendlesham: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029092&tree=LEO
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas de Botetourt: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00262827&tree=LEO
  16. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Helion 7: p. 394.
  17. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Bevan: p. 104.
  18. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ada de Botetourt: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00370361&tree=LEO
  19. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Saint Philibert 7: p. 633.
  20. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I43913
  21. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Scampston 7: pp. 643-4.

Elizabeth Botetourte1,2

F, #20776, b. circa 1291, d. 11 April 1384
FatherJohn de Botetourt 1st Baron Botetourt1,3,4,2 b. c 1258, d. 25 Nov 1324
MotherMatilda/Maud Fitz Thomas4,2 b. c 1271, d. 28 May 1329
ReferenceGAV22
Last Edited3 Sep 2019
     Elizabeth Botetourte married Sir William le Latimer Knt., 2nd/3rd Lord Latimer of Corby, son of William le Latimer 1st/2nd Lord Latimer of Corby and Lucia/Lucy de Thwenge; her 1st husband.3,2,5,6 Elizabeth Botetourte was born circa 1291.1 She married Robert de Ufford, son of Robert de Ufford 1st Earl of Suffolk, 2nd Lord Ufford and Margaret de Norwich, before 20 August 1337; her 2nd husband.2,6
Elizabeth Botetourte died on 11 April 1384; died testate.2
     GAV-22.

Reference: Genealogics cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. VII 457; XII/1 432.6

Family 2

Robert de Ufford d. b 13 Jun 1368

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I43913
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Scampston 7: pp. 643-4. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S2186] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 26 Sept 2007: "Botetourt Family Pedigree"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 26 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 26 Sept 2007."
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Botetourt 6: p. 136.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Latimer, Lord Latimer: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00314840&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth de Botetourt: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00314841&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Latimer: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00319491&tree=LEO
  8. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Latymer Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Sir William le Latimer Knt., 2nd/3rd Lord Latimer of Corby1,2

M, #20777, b. circa 1301, d. before 2 November 1335
FatherWilliam le Latimer 1st/2nd Lord Latimer of Corby1,2,3 b. c 1276, d. 23 Jul 1317
MotherLucia/Lucy de Thwenge1,2,3 b. 24 Mar 1278/79, d. 8 Jan 1346/47
ReferenceGAV22
Last Edited4 Sep 2019
     Sir William le Latimer Knt., 2nd/3rd Lord Latimer of Corby married Elizabeth Botetourte, daughter of John de Botetourt 1st Baron Botetourt and Matilda/Maud Fitz Thomas; her 1st husband.4,2,3,5 Sir William le Latimer Knt., 2nd/3rd Lord Latimer of Corby was born circa 1301; aged 26 in 1327.1,2,3
Sir William le Latimer Knt., 2nd/3rd Lord Latimer of Corby died before 2 November 1335; Richardson says d. shortly before 2 Nov 1335; still unburied on 10 Dec 1335.1,2,3
     GAV-22.

Reference: Genealogics cites:
     1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. VII 457
     1. Wikipedia Website . Baron Latimer.3

Family

Elizabeth Botetourte b. c 1291, d. 11 Apr 1384
Children

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Latymer Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Scampston 7: pp. 643-4. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Latimer, Lord Latimer: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00314840&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2186] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 26 Sept 2007: "Botetourt Family Pedigree"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 26 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 26 Sept 2007."
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth de Botetourt: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00314841&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Latimer: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00319491&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William LatimerLord Latimer: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00314840&tree=LEO

Andre III de Vitre Sire de Vitré1,2,3

M, #20778, d. 8 February 1250
FatherAndre II de Vitre Sire de Vitré4,5 d. b Sep 1211
MotherEustache (?) de Rays6 d. b 7 Dec 1209
Last Edited17 Mar 2020
     Andre III de Vitre Sire de Vitré married Katherine de Thouars, daughter of Guy de Thouars Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond (jure uxoris) and Constance de Penthievre Duchess of Brittany, in 1212.1,7,2,8
Andre III de Vitre Sire de Vitré died on 8 February 1250 at Mansurah (Al Mansurah), Egypt.2
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III/4 810.2

Family 1

Child

Family 2

Katherine de Thouars b. c 1201, d. bt 1237 - 1240
Child

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), De Dreux - Earls of Richmond, p. 162. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, André III de Vitré: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00048761&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 16 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet16.html
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, André II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00313139&tree=LEO
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/brittnpr.htm#AndreIVitreMMathilde. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eustache de Rays: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00313140&tree=LEO
  7. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Thouars 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/thouars2.html
  8. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), p.6. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Philippe de Vitré: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026346&tree=LEO

Robert II de Vitre1

M, #20780, d. circa 1161
FatherAndré I de Vitré Seigneur of Vitré, Brittany1,2 b. c 1054
MotherAgnes de Mortain1 b. c 1054
ReferenceGAV24 EDV25
Last Edited29 Jan 2010
     Robert II de Vitre married Emma de La Guerche, daughter of Gualtier (?) Sire de la Guerche and Basilie (?).3
Robert II de Vitre died circa 1161.4
     GAV-24 EDV-25 GKJ-24.

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I31343
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, André I de Vitré: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00124708&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I31342
  4. [S1656] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 18 June 2004: "Re: CP - ES correction needed?"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 18 June 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 18 June 2004."

Emma de La Guerche1

F, #20781
FatherGualtier (?) Sire de la Guerche d. c 1094
MotherBasilie (?) d. c 1094
ReferenceGAV24 EDV25
Last Edited17 Jul 2004
     Emma de La Guerche married Robert II de Vitre, son of André I de Vitré Seigneur of Vitré, Brittany and Agnes de Mortain.1
     GAV-24 EDV-25 GKJ-24.

Family

Robert II de Vitre d. c 1161
Child

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I31342
  2. [S1656] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 18 June 2004: "Re: CP - ES correction needed?"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 18 June 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 18 June 2004."

Ruivallon de Vitré1

M, #20782
Last Edited18 Jan 2014
     Ruivallon de Vitré married Guenergant (?) Vicomtesse de Rennes.2,3,4
     ; van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: XIV 136.4 Ruivallon de Vitré was also known as Rivallon le Vicaire.4 He was living in 1013.4

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I30222
  2. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I30223
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guenergant: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175574&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rivallon le Vicaire: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175573&tree=LEO

Guenergant (?) Vicomtesse de Rennes1

F, #20783, d. before 1038
Last Edited18 Jan 2014
     Guenergant (?) Vicomtesse de Rennes married Ruivallon de Vitré.2,1,3
Guenergant (?) Vicomtesse de Rennes died before 1038.1
     ; van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: XIV 136. Guenergant (?) Vicomtesse de Rennes was also known as Genergan de la Vicaire.2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guenergant: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175574&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I30223
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rivallon le Vicaire: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175573&tree=LEO

Tristan de Vitré1,2

M, #20784
FatherAndré I de Vitré Seigneur of Vitré, Brittany1 b. c 1054
MotherAgnes de Mortain1 b. c 1054
ReferenceGAV28 EDV28
Last Edited29 Jan 2010
     Tristan de Vitré married Ennoguende de Fougères, daughter of Juhel (Judicaël) Bérenger (?) Comte de Rennes and Gerberge (?).
     GAV-28 EDV-28.

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I30220
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Craon.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

George Abernethy 7th Lord Saltoun1

M, #20785, d. 27 April 1590
FatherAlexander Abernethy 6th Lord Saltoun2 d. 1587
MotherLady Alison Keith3 d. Aug 1567
Last Edited4 Jul 2006
     George Abernethy 7th Lord Saltoun married Margaret Stewart, daughter of John Stewart PC, 4th Earl of Atholl and Elizabeth Gordon.1,2
George Abernethy 7th Lord Saltoun died on 27 April 1590.2
     ; GEORGE, 7th Ld Saltoun, served heir 10 May 1587; m Lady Margaret Stewart, dau of John, Earl of Atholl, Chancellor of Scotland (see ATHOLL, D), and d 27 April 1590, having had issue,
1a JOHN, 8th Ld.
1a Margaret; m (contract 19 Dec 1595) Alexander Fraser, 19th of Philorth, and by him had, with two daus. (see below, FRASER Lineage), a s and heir,
1b ALEXANDER, 10th Ld.
2a Jean; m 1st, 1608, Sir John Lindsay of Kinfauns; and m 2nd George Gordon of Gight.
3a Joneta; m Patrick Livingston.2
He was 7th Lord Saltoun.2

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Fraser Lords Saltoun Family Page.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lady Alison Keith: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00086952&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Maurice II de Craon seigneur de Craon1,2

M, #20786, b. after 1132, d. 12 July 1196
FatherHugues I de Craon seigneur de Craon2,3,4 b. c 1100, d. bt 1136 - 1140
MotherMarquise (Isabelle) de Vitré2,3,4 d. a 1162
ReferenceEDV24 GKJ24
Last Edited6 Nov 2020
     Maurice II de Craon seigneur de Craon was born after 1132.2 He married Isabelle (?) de Meulan, dame de Beaumont-Le-Roger, daughter of Waleran/Galeran IV de Beaumont Comte de Meulan, Earl of Worcester and Agnès de Montfort Dame de Gournay-sur-Marne, circa 1170;
Her 2nd husband.1,2,3,5,4,6
Maurice II de Craon seigneur de Craon died on 12 July 1196; Genealogics says d. 12 Jul 1196; Med Lands says d. 12 Jul or 10 Aug 1196.3,4
Maurice II de Craon seigneur de Craon was buried after 12 July 1196 at Savigny-le-Vieux Abbaye, Savigny-le-Vieux, Departement de la Manche, Basse-Normandie, France (now),

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     unknown, France
     DEATH     12 Jul 1196, France
     Per Wiki - tomb is unknown, but his heart is buried here.
     Family Members
     Spouse
          Isabelle de Beaumont Craon unknown–1220
     Children
          Amaury I de Craon unknown–1226
     BURIAL     Savigny-le-Vieux Abbaye, Savigny-le-Vieux, Departement de la Manche, Basse-Normandie, France
     Created by: lulu
     Added: 29 Sep 2018
     Find A Grave Memorial 193542224.7
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:719.3

; Per Wikipedia:
     "Maurice II de Craon (c.?1132–1196) was Lord of Craon, Governor of Anjou and Maine under Henry II, a military figure and Anglo-Norman of the 12th century. Maurice II also possessed fiefs in England which he held courtesy of Henry II.
Biography
Knighthood
     "Maurice II, son of Hugues I de Craon and of Marquise, his second wife, succeeded his brother around 1150. Still a minor, he received his knighthood on acceptance of the fief.[1] Maurice II's earliest military action was his participation in the siege staged by Henry II of the city of Thouars, which was taken 10 October 1158.[2]
Crusade
     "A few years later, Maurice II left for the Crusade. This act, known from the reference in charter 231 of La Roë Abbey of the first court held by him at Poiltrée at Christmas time, after his return from Jerusalem, is furthermore attested by ten items of the Cartulaire de Craon.[3] Maurice II thus returned to France after the month of March 1170.
     "He took several risks whilst in the Orient and, in executing an oath made abroad, in Egypto, he established an annuity of two sous for the benefit of the Collégiale Saint-Nicolas de Craon to contribute towards the chapel lamp.[4]
Marriage
He married Isabelle de Meulan,[5] daughter of Galéran IV de Meulan, widow from her first marriage to Geoffroy III de Mayenne on his return from the Holy Land about 1170[6] This alliance brought him the double support of the lords of Meulan and those of Mayenne.
     "From his marriage, contracted around 1170 with Isabelle de Mayenne, Maurice II had four sons and three daughters :
     ** Renaud;[7]
** Maurice III;[8]
** Pierre[9] ecclesiastic;[10]
** Amaury;[11]
** Avoise, wife of Guy V de Laval;
** Clémence,[12] wife of Pierre de la Garnache;
** Agnès,[13] wife of Thibault II de Mathefelon.
Henry II of England
     "The time of Maurice II saw the rise of the house of Anjou. From 1152 the Lords of Anjou became vassals of Henry II of England, and, under his standard, obliged to combat France.
     "In 1174, following the revolt of the sons of Henry II against their father, Maurice II counted amongst the lords that had remained faithful to the King. Charged with leading the Angevins, he seized Chantoceaux and Sablé, destroyed Sablé's two neighbouring fortresses; Saint-Loup and Saint-Brice,[14] and took over the government of Anjou and of Maine, as well as that of the recently constructed fortress at Ancenis.
     "The same year he figured amongst the witnesses of the Treaty of Falaise establishing peace between Henry II and his sons.[15]
     "In 1177, following the agreement made between Louis VII and Henri II, he was predesignated as one of the arbitrators who would rule in the event of difficulties.[16]
     "He was similarly nominated the 28 June 1180 for the peace signed at Gisors between Philippe-Auguste and Henri II.[17]
Third Crusade
     "Richard the Lionheart, successor to Henry II, took with him a great number of his vassals but others were not going to join him until later; Maurice II was amongst these, for, in 1191, he was still in Anjou. We find no acts emanating from him at the time of the departure for his first voyage to the Holy Land. For the second, however, many are known.[18] including a testament dated 1191.[19]
Testament
     "The testament portrays the state of the family of Maurice II in 1191. He identifies six children: three daughters, the eldest, and three sons. The eldest daughter Avoise de Craon, married Guy V de Laval; the second is not named, but Pierre de la Garnache, who held the rank there is evidently her husband. The third, Agnès, is named, her dowry of Craon and Chantocé is specified, but the name of her husband is not given; as for the sons all three figure in their order of primogeniture.
Death
     "Maurice II returned to France and founded the priory of Bonshommes de Ballots near to Craon. He died 12 July 1196,[20] resulting in the obituary of la Haye-aux-Bons-Hommes.[21] The location of his tomb is not known, but it is known that his heart was taken to Savigny Abbey.[22]
Anglo-Norman Poet
     "Maurice II was not only a great warrior and a man of faith; he was also a poet and amongst the songs of the trouvères of the Langue d'oïl, which have descended to us, there is one that one can legitimately be considered as being as his work[23] that which begins by the verse:
A l'entrant del doux termine.

Literature
     "Maurice II de Craon is the central character of the anonymous Middle High German verse romance Moriz von Craûn dated between 1187 and 1250. This, in turn, derives from a French fabliau: Du chevalier qui recovra l'amour de sa dame. The story tells of Maurice's attempts to woo "Isabel", depicted as the wife of his neighbour, Richard de Beaumont.[24][25]
See also
** Craon family: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craon_family
Notes and references
1. Charter 72 of La Roë Abbey is thus dated primo an no quo Mauricius credonensis dominas, factus est miles. The age of majority varied according to a person's status. In almost all of the west of France, male commoners attained majority at fifteen years, male nobles at twenty-one years, female commoners 'probably' came of age at twelve years and female nobles at fifteen years (See Viollet, Etablissements de Saint-Louis, vol. I, p. 158, and d'Arbois de Jubainville, Recherches sur la minorité et ses effets dans le droit féodal français, in the Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes, vol. XII, p. 415–440 vol. XIII, p. 136–168, 533–551). The age at which one could become a knight concurred generally with the age of majority, but for orphaned possessors of fiefs the timing was often advanced. An example of a high noble being knighted long before his majority would be Geoffrey Plantagenet, aged only fourteen years when, in 1127, the day after his engagement, he was knighted. (See Célestin Port, vol. II, p. 254).
2. This act is attested by the charter 185 de La Roë, which recounts his vain attempt to make La Roë contribute to the share of debts owed by these men.
3. These support each other and all originate in 1169. Furthermore, their copies have attached descriptions of the seals which accompanied them and which are not all known. These are the originals of relics brought back by Maurice II and deposited by him at the collégiale Saint-Nicolas de Craon and the priory of La Haye-aux-Bons-Hommes de Ballots. Only one is dated, that of 20 March 1169, v. s., given by the list of patriarchs of Jerusalem. The others came from Philippe de Milly, grand master of the Temple, from Rainauld, abbot of Mont-Sion, from Renaud, bishop of Hébron, from Raoul, bishop of Bethlehem, from the bishop of Sébaste, from Raimond, abbot of Temple, from Stéphanie, abbess of Notre-Dame la Grande, at Jerusalem, from Amaury I of Jerusalem, and finally from Girard de Montclar, master of Saint-Lazare (See No.137–146 of the Cartulaire de Craon). The date of the first accords perfectly with all the others.
4. According to M. de Bodard, p. 194, the establishment of this annuity followed his second voyage to the Orient. – He had not understood that the act published by himself, page 642, was executed before this expedition (See Cartulaire de Craon, No.178).
5. better known to the end of her days as Isabelle de Mayenne
6. M. de Bodard states that Maurice II, following his first voyage to the Holy Land left his four minor children under the tutelage of Isabelle de Meulan but this is a fact absolutely contradicted by all the documents.
7. His existence is evidenced by one sole document where it is said that, in 1180, in the time of Lambert, abbot of La Roë, Maurice II made a donation to the Abbey for the repose of the soul of Renaud, his son, and that of Amaury de Meulan, brother of his wife Isabelle. Cartulaire de Craon, No.157.
8. He succeeded his father in 1196 and was 'Seigneur de Craon' until 1207.
9. It is known, from the testament of Maurice II, that Pierre was destined for an ecclesiastical life and Maurice, whilst reserving if needed be his rights of succession, established for him an annuity of a thousand gold sols taken from the duties on goods on the River Loire at Chantocé, an annuity which would have been suppressed had he not been ordained. He entered holy orders and it is perhaps because of this that he did not become lord of Crean in 1207 on the death of his elder brother, Maurice III. However, even if his ecclesiastical position prevented him from becoming lord of Crean it appears that it still permitted him to be owner of fiefs in England. In effect, after having met Pierre as witness to four French acts in 1205 and 1207, one only finds him in England where, from 31 May 1213, he is the object of numerous manifestations of Royal favour. Finally, in May 1215, he was given possession of the fiefs that Maurice II held in England by the generosity of Henry II. The final command made to his benefit by Jean Sans Terre is that of 9 June 1216. He died in 1216, for the donation of twenty sous under the annuity for the repose of his soul, made by Clemence de la Garnache, is dated 1216.
10. Cartulaire de Craon, No.196, 197, 201, 202 et 211–213, 218–230.
11. Amaury first succeeded his brother Maurice III and became lord of Craon from 1207 until 12 May 1226.
12. The birth of Clémence, who was already married by 1185, followed very soon after that of her sister Avoise. Unlike her brothers and sisters, her name is not mentioned in her father's testament; also her existence has been denied by historians, who have not noted that, in case of the decease of his male inheritors, Maurice II, instructing the sharing of his fiefs, attributed Craon and Châtelais to Avoise, Chantocé to Pierre de la Garnache and the fiefs in England to Agnès. See also: Notice sur les châteaux de la Garnache et de Beauvoir-sur-Mer, by Charles Mourain de Sourdeval, Nantes, 1854, in 8th, and in the Revue de l'Ouest, in the second part of volume 1 (1885) page 18, the Documents pour servir à l'histoire des anciens Seigneurs de la Garnache, by M. de l'Estourbeillon.
13. Like her two sisters, Agnès was married in 1191, following the creation of her father's testament. She received as dowry two sitting annuities one in Craon, the other in Chantocé, and was to abandon both had her brothers died and she had become proprietor of the fiefs situated in England. She was betrothed to Thibaut II de Mathefelon, also proven by his gift to the abbaye de Fontaine-Daniel for the repose of her soul, which is not dated but received in 1204 the approval of the Bishop of Angers (See folios 75 and 71 of Cartulaire de Fontaine-Daniel.) Amaury I waited until 1216 to ratify it. By Agnès Thibaut had no sons, thus proven by charter 241 of the Cartulaire de Craon through which, in 1218, Thibaut approved a gift made at Chaloché by his daughter Ysabelle on her death bed, a gift which was ratified by his other daughter Emma.
14. Marchegay, Paul; Mabille, Émile (1869). Chronique de Saint-Aubin. Chroniques des Églises d'Anjou. p. 43.
15. Cartulaire de Craon, No.149.
16. Cartulaire de Craon, No.155.
17. Cartulaire de Craon, No.156
18. Cartulaire de Craon, No.176–179.
19. The date can be determined by juxtaposition with two acts of Maurice II, dated 1191 and given likewise at the time of departure for the third crusade the convention with la Roë of 22 May and the ratification of all the gifts given to la collégiale de Saint-Nicolas de Craon, granted at Tours during his passage there, having already left Anjou, in the presence of his wife and eldest son still a child (adhuc juvene) who had accompanied him as far as there. On reading the text, adhuc Juvene, we find new proof of the youth of Maurice III en 1191 and shows that the lord who stayed at Tours to leave for the crusade was Maurice II. These two latter items also help to date a gift to l'Hôtel-Dieu Saint-Jean d'Angers, appearing in 1215.
20. IV id Julii, abiit dominus Mauricius de Credone, filius Hugonis,fundator dormis noslrso Bonorum hominium de foresta Credonis (F. F. 22450, fol. 233).
21. Another proof is found in the act made in 1197 between Guy VI de Laval and André II de Vitré, to establish a lasting peace between them. André, in enumerating those of his friends who had the right to benefit from this peace named the Craon family but instead of Maurice II he designated "the children of Maurice de Craon" thus Maurice II was no longer living at the time of the act. The original text of this treaty is no longer to be found and is only known via l'Histoire de Vitré of Pierre Le Baud, p. 36; an analysis is to be found in the Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes, vol. XXX, p. 389
22. Cartulaire de Craon, No.185.
23. Gaston Raynaud, who made a special study of the songs of the 13th century, wanted to take the trouble to verify the attributions made to the Lords of Craon. Separating three amongst these, he kept back two, that of Maurice II and that which begins "Fière amour claime en moi par éritaige" which he attributes to Amaury II de Craon. The full text is found on page 197 of Chroniques Craonnaises, as such included in the publication by Trébutien, Guillaume-Stanislas, ed. (1843). Chansons de Maurice et de Pierre de Craon, poètes Anglo-Normands du XIIe siècle. Caen. ISBN 9781168001832., originally published in 120 copies, reprinted in 2010.
24. Classen, Albrecht (2011). Sexual Violence and Rape in the Middle Ages:Critical Discourse in Premodern German and European Literature. Fundamentals of Medieval and Early Modern Culture Series. 7. Walter de Gruyter. pp. 63–65. ISBN 9783110263374. ISSN 1864-3396.
25. Classen, Albrecht (17 December 2004). "Moriz von Craûn". The Literary Encyclopedia.(subscription required)
26. This act was only quoted in part by M. Bonneserre de Saint-Denis who one must also reproach for having dated at around 1185 an act made in the presence of the bishop Geoffroy (1162–1178) and having proposed that the seal attached was that of Hamelin d'Anthenaise when the act states formally that the court made its decision in his absence. The sentence was delivered in 1165. M. Beautemps-Beaupré, on p. 262 ov volume I of the second of these Coutumes et institutions de l'Anjou et du Maine, has determined the date.
27. Rainauld was already abbot of Mont-Sion when in about 1160 he supported the renunciation of the grand master Gilbert d'Assaly. He was still there in 1178. It is from him that emanated authenticity given to Maurice II (See Familles d'Outre-Mer, p. 827 and Chartes de l'abbaye du Mont-Sion, to vol. XLVIII of the Mémoires des Antiquaires de France and an offprint, which gives a list of the abbots).
28. Raimond, abbot of the Temple of Our Lord in Jerusalem, is known from an act of 1169 published in Cart. Sancti Sepulcri, p. 220 (Famille d'Outre-Mer, p. 834).
29. Stéphanie, abbess of Notre-Dame-la-Grande of Jerusalem, was only formerly known by an act of 1174 ('Familles d'Outre-Mer, p. 831)
30. Dom Martène, Amplissima collectio, vol. I, p. 161
31. Foedera, conventiones, litlerse. inter reges Angliie et alios quovis imperatores, reges, ab anno 1101 ad nostra usqnetempora, editio terlia Hagce-Comitum, 1739–1745. 20 parts in 10 volumes. in-fol. In this publication one finds an enormous quantity of documents classified in strict chronological order. Sadly the French names are the most frequently unrecognisable. Furthermore the alphabetical table that terminates the work does not contain all the names cited nor even all the names of the authors or recipients of the documents. One has to go through all the acts of the period to be certain that nothing is overlooked. Each volume is divided into two or three parts, which complicates citation, so, to simplify, the year and page are given here.
32. It is this act that Gilles Ménage, on page 144 of his Histoire de Sablé, dated at 1153.
33. This charter does not bear a date, but it belongs to the very short episcopal period of Renault, Bishop of Mans, who, elected 1 September 1187, died 2 August 1190. It is impossible to include the name of Amaury, as the son of Maurice II of the same name was still in early childhood.
34. In the analysis of this item given in the Commission de la Mayenne, vol. II, p. 135, a singular error dates the document as being the year of departure of Philippe de Landivy for Jerusalem when it is unquestionably that of the departure of the author of the piece, namely Juhel III.
35. This charter, which escaped the researches of M. Bonneserre de Saint-Denis, does not figure in the Cartulaire given by him as evidence for his Notice sur la Maison d'Anthenaise. It is important because of the mention that it contains Robert de Sablé which, in dating it before 1190, forces recognition that Savary III was made Seigneur d'Anthenaise twenty years earlier than was believed (See la Notice, p. 24)
36. The Cartulaire de Savigny is conserved in the archives départementales de la Manche. It is divided into certain number of chapters each relating to a bishopric. The Archives of Mayenne possess a copy of the chapter which contains the diocese of Mans.
37. This notice was previously published, with several gaps, on page 642 of the Chroniques Craonnaises (De Bodard De La Jacopiere (1871). Charpentier, Etienne; de Benoist, Alain (eds.) Chroniques Craonnaises [Craon Chronicles] (in French). ISBN 9781162476889.)
38. Célestin Port, in placing this charter in his Cartulaire de l'Hôtel-Dieu d'Angers, dated it c.?1215. It has to be redated at 1191, like the other acts of Maurice II passed at the time of his second voyage to the Holy Land. The act is definitely that of Maurice II. as expressely stated by Amaury I in his approval given 1216. Innocent II, in his bull of 14 April 1208, included the revenues that the hospital possessed at Chantocé in the enumeration of those to which he gave approval (See No.XLIV of Cartulaire de l'Hôtel- Dieu d'Angers). M. de Bodard, having read at the head of the act Mauricius de Creone, Hugonis filius, concluded that Maurice left with his son Hugon.
Sources
derived from: de Broussillon, Bertrand; de Farcy, Paul (1891). Sigillographie des Seigneurs de Craon. ASIN B000X8QFLW. OCLC 557290989. 2 volumes."8 EDV-24 GKJ-24.

; Per Med Lands:
     "MAURICE [II] de Craon, son of HUGUES Seigneur de Craon & his second wife Marquise --- (-12 Jul or 10 Aug 1196). Seigneur de Craon. "Mauritius de Credonio" donated property to "monachis sancti Melanii", at the request of "Marquisiæ matris meæ et Gaufredi de Poëncio nepotis mei et Paganus de Vegia", by charter dated 1162 signed by "Gaufrido de Poencio nepote meo, Hugone de Guirchia fratre suo, Pagano de Vegia et Marquisia matre mea eius uxore…"[215]. "Mauricius dominus Creonis" donated property to Roë, for the soul of "Raginaldi filii mei" and to found an anniversary for him, by charter dated 1180, which also states that he donated property for the soul of "Amaurici fratris Helisabet uxoris meæ"[216]. "Mauricius de Creon Hugonis filius" donated property to Roë by charter dated 23 Jun 1191, witnessed by "…Guillelmo de Guierchia et Isabel uxore mea et filiis meis Mauricio et Petro…"[217]. "Mauricius…filius Hugonis et Marquisiæ, Credonensis dominus" donated property to Saint-Nicholas de Craon on the death of "fratris sui Fulconis de Matefelon" [uterine brother of Maurice [II] de Craon] by charter dated 1191[218]. "Mauritius de Credone Hugonis filius" confirmed donations to "ecclesiæ de Rota" by charter dated 1191, witnessed by "Guillelmo de Guierchia, Isabel uxore mea et filiis meis Mauritio et Petro et Philippo de Sauconeio, Paganus de Sancto Amatore, Guillelmi de Vitreio et Mauritius frater eius"[219]. "Mauritius de Credone filius Hugonis" appointed "meæ uxoris Isabel" as guardian of his lands and his children, and if she died "Guido de Laval…et Havis uxor eius" and if he died "Petrum de Guierchia", in his undated testament when leaving for Jerusalem, in which he named his sons "Mauritium et Amauricum…Petrus…qui futurus est clericus", provided for their inheritance of his lands in the order "Mauritius…Petrus…Amauricius" with reversion to "Guido de Lavalle…Petrus…de Garnachio", and named "Agnes…filia mea" who would receive "terram meam de Anglia" as her dowry[220]. "Mauricius de Credone filius Hugonis" donated property to Craon Bonshommes by charter dated 1196[221]. The obituary of Craon Bonshommes records the death 10 Aug of "dominus Mauricius de Credone filius Hugonis, fundator domus nostre", recording his donation to the monastery[222].
     "m ([1170]) as her second husband, ISABELLE de Meulan, widow of GEOFFROY Seigneur de Mayenne, daughter of GALERAN de Beaumont-le-Roger Comte de Meulan & his wife Agnes de Montfort Dame de Gournay-sur-Marne (-10 May 1220, bur Sauvigny). "Mauricius dominus Creonis" donated property to Roë, for the soul of "Raginaldi filii mei" and to found an anniversary for him, by charter dated 1180, which also states that he donated property for the soul of "Amaurici fratris Helisabet uxoris meæ"[223]. Henry II King of England confirmed a donation to Sauvigny by "Ysabell filie Gualerandi comitis de Mellento", with the consent of "filiis suis Juhello…filio Gaufridi de Meduana, et Mauricio et Petro, filiis Mauricii de Creon", by charter dated to [Apr 1180/Jan 1183][224]. "Mauricius de Creon Hugonis filius" donated property to Roë by charter dated 23 Jun 1191, witnessed by "…Guillelmo de Guierchia et Isabel uxore mea et filiis meis Mauricio et Petro…"[225]. "Mauricius de Creon Hugonis filius" donated property to Roë by charter dated 23 Jun 1191, witnessed by "…Guillelmo de Guierchia et Isabel uxore mea et filiis meis Mauricio et Petro…"[226]. Her two marriages are confirmed by the undated charter by which her son "Mauritius dominus Credoni" confirmed the donation by "Constantia soror mea" of revenue set by "dominus Juhellus frater meus" at "apud Harperiam" to the abbey of Clarei, by undated charter, witnessed by "…domina Isabel matre mea, domina Gervasia…"[227]. "Mauritius de Credone filius Hugonis" appointed "meæ uxoris Isabel" as guardian of his lands and his children in his undated testament when leaving for Jerusalem[228]. The Gesta Guillelmi Majoris Andegavensis Episcopi names “dominis de Credonio…et Isabella Domina de Credonio” among those present at the burial of Bishop Guillaume, undated but stated to be during the reign of Philippe II King of France[229]. "Domina Ysabel de Meduana et filio eius Mauricio" donated property to Craon Bonshommes by charter dated 1196[230]. Maurice Seigneur de Craon donated property to Chaloché, with the approval of "Isabelle sa mère…Pierre et Amaury ses frères", by charter dated 1207[231]. "Constancia soror domini Amaurici de Credone" donated property to Roë, with the consent of “...Isabel matris meæ et Juhel de Meduana et Amauricii de Credone fratrum meorum”, by charter dated 1217[232]. The Chronicon Savigniacensis Monasterii records the death in 1220 of "Juhellus de Meduana…domina Isabel mater eius"[233]. The necrology of Angers Cathedral records the death "Kal Mai" of "Isabellis domina de Credonio"[234].
     "Maurice [II] & his wife had seven children."
Med Lands cites:
[215] Lobineau (1707), Tome II, col. 218.
[216] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 157, p. 109.
[217] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 177, p. 114.
[218] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 178, p. 116.
[219] Bodard de la Jacopière (1872), Renvoi E3, p. 598.
[220] Bodard de la Jacopière (1872), Renvoi E2, p. 596, quoting Coll. Housseau, Vol. VI, no. 2135.
[221] Craon Bonshommes, I, p. 9.
[222] Craon Bonshommes, Obituaire, p. 117.
[223] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 157, p. 109.
[224] Actes Henri II, Tome II, DCXXVIII, p. 238.
[225] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 177, p. 114.
[226] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 177, p. 114.
[227] Guyard de la Fosse (1850), Preuves, XVII.
[228] Bodard de la Jacopière (1872), Renvoi E2, p. 596, quoting Coll. Housseau, Vol. VI, no. 2135.
[229] Gesta Guillelmi Majoris Andegavensis Episcopi, Spicilegium II, p. 161.
[230] Craon Bonshommes, II, p. 10.
[231] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 201, p. 131, citing Bibliothèque Nationale, Fonds français, 22450, f. 320, 321.
[232] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 239, p. 161.
[233] Ex Chronico Savigniacensis Monasterii, RHGF XVIII, p. 352.
[234] L'Obituaire de la Cathédrale d'Angers.4


; Per Racines et Histoire: "2) Isabeau de Meulan ° ~1147 + 10/05/1220 dame de Meulan
     ép.1) ~1161 Geoffroi II (ou IV), seigneur de Mayenne (53) ° 1147 + 25/07/1169 (ou 18/02/1170 ?) (fils de Juhel, seigneur de Mayenne, et de Clémence de Ponthieu)
     ép. 2) ~1170 Maurice II de Craon, seigneur de Craon, croisé (1192), ° après 1132 + 12/07 ou 10/08/1196 (fils d’Hugues et d’Isabelle de Vitré)
postérité 1) Mayenne-Vitré (Mahaut) 2) Craon-Laval."9

; Per Racines et Histoire: "2) Maurice II ° après 1132 + 12/07 ou 10/08?/1196 seigneur de Craon, etc.
     ép. 1170 Isabeau de Meulan, dame de Beaumont-Le-Roger °~1147 + 10/05/1220."10

Citations

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Isabelle (?) de Meulan, dame de Beaumont-Le-Roger1,2

F, #20787, b. circa 1147, d. 10 May 1220
FatherWaleran/Galeran IV de Beaumont Comte de Meulan, Earl of Worcester1,3 b. 1104, d. 10 Apr 1166
MotherAgnès de Montfort Dame de Gournay-sur-Marne1,3 d. 15 Dec 1181
ReferenceEDV23
Last Edited6 Nov 2020
     Isabelle (?) de Meulan, dame de Beaumont-Le-Roger was born circa 1147; Racines et Histoire says b. ca 1147; Genealogics says b. ca 1148.4,5 She married Geoffroy II/III de Mayenne Sire de Mayenne, son of Juhael I de Mayenne Sire de Mayenne and Clémence de Ponthieu, circa 1161;
Her 1st husband; His 2nd wife.1,6,5,3,7,8 Isabelle (?) de Meulan, dame de Beaumont-Le-Roger married Maurice II de Craon seigneur de Craon, son of Hugues I de Craon seigneur de Craon and Marquise (Isabelle) de Vitré, circa 1170;
Her 2nd husband.1,2,9,5,10,3
Isabelle (?) de Meulan, dame de Beaumont-Le-Roger died on 10 May 1220.1,2,5,3
Isabelle (?) de Meulan, dame de Beaumont-Le-Roger was buried after 10 May 1220 at Savigny-le-Vieux Abbaye, Savigny-le-Vieux, Departement de la Manche, Basse-Normandie, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     unknown, France
     DEATH     10 May 1220, France
     Daughter of Waleran IV de Beaumont, 4th Earl of Worcester, and Agnès de Montfort de Gournay, she married (1) Geoffroi II, Seigneur de Mayenne and (2) Mauruce II, Seigneur de Craon.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Waleran de Beaumont 1104–1166
     Spouse
          Maurice De Craon unknown–1196
     Children
          Amaury I de Craon unknown–1226
     BURIAL     Savigny-le-Vieux Abbaye, Savigny-le-Vieux, Departement de la Manche, Basse-Normandie, France
     Created by: Anonymous
     Added: 21 Sep 2014
     Find A Grave Memorial 136227967.1,3,11
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "MAURICE [II] de Craon, son of HUGUES Seigneur de Craon & his second wife Marquise --- (-12 Jul or 10 Aug 1196). Seigneur de Craon. "Mauritius de Credonio" donated property to "monachis sancti Melanii", at the request of "Marquisiæ matris meæ et Gaufredi de Poëncio nepotis mei et Paganus de Vegia", by charter dated 1162 signed by "Gaufrido de Poencio nepote meo, Hugone de Guirchia fratre suo, Pagano de Vegia et Marquisia matre mea eius uxore…"[215]. "Mauricius dominus Creonis" donated property to Roë, for the soul of "Raginaldi filii mei" and to found an anniversary for him, by charter dated 1180, which also states that he donated property for the soul of "Amaurici fratris Helisabet uxoris meæ"[216]. "Mauricius de Creon Hugonis filius" donated property to Roë by charter dated 23 Jun 1191, witnessed by "…Guillelmo de Guierchia et Isabel uxore mea et filiis meis Mauricio et Petro…"[217]. "Mauricius…filius Hugonis et Marquisiæ, Credonensis dominus" donated property to Saint-Nicholas de Craon on the death of "fratris sui Fulconis de Matefelon" [uterine brother of Maurice [II] de Craon] by charter dated 1191[218]. "Mauritius de Credone Hugonis filius" confirmed donations to "ecclesiæ de Rota" by charter dated 1191, witnessed by "Guillelmo de Guierchia, Isabel uxore mea et filiis meis Mauritio et Petro et Philippo de Sauconeio, Paganus de Sancto Amatore, Guillelmi de Vitreio et Mauritius frater eius"[219]. "Mauritius de Credone filius Hugonis" appointed "meæ uxoris Isabel" as guardian of his lands and his children, and if she died "Guido de Laval…et Havis uxor eius" and if he died "Petrum de Guierchia", in his undated testament when leaving for Jerusalem, in which he named his sons "Mauritium et Amauricum…Petrus…qui futurus est clericus", provided for their inheritance of his lands in the order "Mauritius…Petrus…Amauricius" with reversion to "Guido de Lavalle…Petrus…de Garnachio", and named "Agnes…filia mea" who would receive "terram meam de Anglia" as her dowry[220]. "Mauricius de Credone filius Hugonis" donated property to Craon Bonshommes by charter dated 1196[221]. The obituary of Craon Bonshommes records the death 10 Aug of "dominus Mauricius de Credone filius Hugonis, fundator domus nostre", recording his donation to the monastery[222].
     "m ([1170]) as her second husband, ISABELLE de Meulan, widow of GEOFFROY Seigneur de Mayenne, daughter of GALERAN de Beaumont-le-Roger Comte de Meulan & his wife Agnes de Montfort Dame de Gournay-sur-Marne (-10 May 1220, bur Sauvigny). "Mauricius dominus Creonis" donated property to Roë, for the soul of "Raginaldi filii mei" and to found an anniversary for him, by charter dated 1180, which also states that he donated property for the soul of "Amaurici fratris Helisabet uxoris meæ"[223]. Henry II King of England confirmed a donation to Sauvigny by "Ysabell filie Gualerandi comitis de Mellento", with the consent of "filiis suis Juhello…filio Gaufridi de Meduana, et Mauricio et Petro, filiis Mauricii de Creon", by charter dated to [Apr 1180/Jan 1183][224]. "Mauricius de Creon Hugonis filius" donated property to Roë by charter dated 23 Jun 1191, witnessed by "…Guillelmo de Guierchia et Isabel uxore mea et filiis meis Mauricio et Petro…"[225]. "Mauricius de Creon Hugonis filius" donated property to Roë by charter dated 23 Jun 1191, witnessed by "…Guillelmo de Guierchia et Isabel uxore mea et filiis meis Mauricio et Petro…"[226]. Her two marriages are confirmed by the undated charter by which her son "Mauritius dominus Credoni" confirmed the donation by "Constantia soror mea" of revenue set by "dominus Juhellus frater meus" at "apud Harperiam" to the abbey of Clarei, by undated charter, witnessed by "…domina Isabel matre mea, domina Gervasia…"[227]. "Mauritius de Credone filius Hugonis" appointed "meæ uxoris Isabel" as guardian of his lands and his children in his undated testament when leaving for Jerusalem[228]. The Gesta Guillelmi Majoris Andegavensis Episcopi names “dominis de Credonio…et Isabella Domina de Credonio” among those present at the burial of Bishop Guillaume, undated but stated to be during the reign of Philippe II King of France[229]. "Domina Ysabel de Meduana et filio eius Mauricio" donated property to Craon Bonshommes by charter dated 1196[230]. Maurice Seigneur de Craon donated property to Chaloché, with the approval of "Isabelle sa mère…Pierre et Amaury ses frères", by charter dated 1207[231]. "Constancia soror domini Amaurici de Credone" donated property to Roë, with the consent of “...Isabel matris meæ et Juhel de Meduana et Amauricii de Credone fratrum meorum”, by charter dated 1217[232]. The Chronicon Savigniacensis Monasterii records the death in 1220 of "Juhellus de Meduana…domina Isabel mater eius"[233]. The necrology of Angers Cathedral records the death "Kal Mai" of "Isabellis domina de Credonio"[234].
     "Maurice [II] & his wife had seven children."
Med Lands cites:
[215] Lobineau (1707), Tome II, col. 218.
[216] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 157, p. 109.
[217] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 177, p. 114.
[218] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 178, p. 116.
[219] Bodard de la Jacopière (1872), Renvoi E3, p. 598.
[220] Bodard de la Jacopière (1872), Renvoi E2, p. 596, quoting Coll. Housseau, Vol. VI, no. 2135.
[221] Craon Bonshommes, I, p. 9.
[222] Craon Bonshommes, Obituaire, p. 117.
[223] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 157, p. 109.
[224] Actes Henri II, Tome II, DCXXVIII, p. 238.
[225] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 177, p. 114.
[226] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 177, p. 114.
[227] Guyard de la Fosse (1850), Preuves, XVII.
[228] Bodard de la Jacopière (1872), Renvoi E2, p. 596, quoting Coll. Housseau, Vol. VI, no. 2135.
[229] Gesta Guillelmi Majoris Andegavensis Episcopi, Spicilegium II, p. 161.
[230] Craon Bonshommes, II, p. 10.
[231] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 201, p. 131, citing Bibliothèque Nationale, Fonds français, 22450, f. 320, 321.
[232] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 239, p. 161.
[233] Ex Chronico Savigniacensis Monasterii, RHGF XVIII, p. 352.
[234] L'Obituaire de la Cathédrale d'Angers.10


Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:719.5

; Per Genealogics:
     "Isabelle was born in about 1148, the eldest daughter of Galeran IV de Beaumont, comte de Meulan-sur-Seine, 1st earl of Worcester, and Agnès de Montfort, dame de Gournay-sur-Marne.
     "About 1161 Isabelle became the second wife of Geoffroy II, sire de Mayenne, son of Juhael I, sire de Mayenne, and Clémence de Ponthieu. Their two children Juhael II and Clémence would both have progeny. Geoffroy died in 1169. In 1170 Isabelle, aged about twenty-two, married Maurice II, sire de Craon, son of Hugues I, sire de Craon, and Marquise de Vitré. They had seven children, of whom Amaury, Avoise and Agnès would have progeny. Amaury married Jeanne des Roches, the daughter of his half-niece Marguerite, dame de Sablé, whose maternal grandmother Clémence was Isabelle's daughter from her first marriage. This meant that Isabelle's daughter-in-law was also her great-granddaughter.
     "Isabelle was appointed guardian of Maurice's lands and their children when he left for Jerusalem on Crusade. The _Geste Guillem Majoris Andegavensis Episcopi_ names Isabelle among those present at the burial of the Bishop Guilaume on an unknown date during the reign of Philippe II August, king of France.
     "Isabelle's husband died 12 July 1196. Isabelle herself died on 10 May 1220 at the age of about seventy-two years. Her death occurred shortly after the death in battle of her eldest son Juhael II, a celebrated Crusader. She was buried in Savigny."5

; Per Med Lands:
     "ISABELLE de Meulan (-10 May 1220, bur Savigny). Henry II King of England confirmed a donation to Savigny by "Ysabell filie Gualerandi comitis de Mellento", with the consent of "filiis suis Juhello…filio Gaufridi de Meduana, et Mauricio et Petro, filiis Mauricii de Creon", by charter dated to [Apr 1180/Jan 1183][1595]. "Mauricius de Creon Hugonis filius" donated property to Roë by charter dated 23 Jun 1191, witnessed by "…Guillelmo de Guierchia et Isabel uxore mea et filiis meis Mauricio et Petro…"[1596]. Her two marriages are confirmed by the undated charter by which her son "Mauritius dominus Credoni" confirmed the donation by "Constantia soror mea" of revenue set by "dominus Juhellus frater meus" at "apud Harperiam" to the abbey of Clarei, by undated charter, witnessed by "…domina Isabel matre mea, domina Gervasia…"[1597]. "Mauritius de Credone filius Hugonis" appointed "meæ uxoris Isabel" as guardian of his lands and his children in his undated testament when leaving for Jerusalem[1598]. The Gesta Guillelmi Majoris Andegavensis Episcopi names “dominis de Credonio…et Isabella Domina de Credonio” among those present at the burial of Bishop Guillaume, undated but stated to be during the reign of Philippe II King of France[1599]. "Constancia soror domini Amaurici de Credone" donated property to Roë, with the consent of “...Isabel matris meæ et Juhel de Meduana et Amauricii de Credone fratrum meorum”, by charter dated 1217[1600]. The Chronicon Savigniacensis Monasterii records the death in 1220 of "Juhellus de Meduana…domina Isabel mater eius"[1601]. The necrology of Angers Cathedral records the death "Kal Mai" of "Isabellis domina de Credonio"[1602].
     "m firstly ([1161]) as his second wife, GEOFFROY Seigneur de Mayenne, son of JUHEL Seigneur de Mayenne & his wife Clémence de Ponthieu (-18 Feb or 25 Jul 1169).
     "m secondly ([1170]) MAURICE [II] Seigneur de Craon, son of HUGUES Seigneur de Craon & his second wife Isabelle de Vitré (-12 Jul 1196)."
Med Lands cites:
[1595] Actes Henri II, Tome II, DCXXVIII, p. 238.
[1596] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 177, p. 114.
[1597] Guyard de la Fosse (1850), Preuves, XVII.
[1598] Bodard de la Jacopière (1872), Renvoi E2, p. 596, quoting Coll. Housseau, Vol. VI, no. 2135.
[1599] Gesta Guillelmi Majoris Andegavensis Episcopi, Spicilegium II, p. 161.
[1600] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 239, p. 161.
[1601] Ex Chronico Savigniacensis Monasterii, RHGF XVIII, p. 352.
[1602] Obituaire de la Cathédrale d'Angers.3
EDV-23 GKJ-24.

; Per Wikipedia:
     "Isabelle de Meulan, Dame de Mayenne, Dame de Craon (c. 1148 – 10 May 1220) was a French noblewoman, being the daughter of Waleran de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Worcester, Count of Meulan. Isabelle married twice; firstly to Geoffroy, Seigneur de Mayenne, and secondly to Maurice II, Sire de Craon. Her eldest son Juhel III de Mayenne was a celebrated Crusader.
Family
     "Isabelle was born in about 1148, the eldest daughter of Waleran de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Worcester, Count of Meulan, and Agnès de Montfort, Dame de Gournay-sur-Marne.[1] She had six brothers and two younger sisters. Her father was a powerful Norman magnate with much wealth and political influence. Her paternal grandparents were Robert de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Leicester and Elisabeth de Vermandois, and her maternal grandparents were Amaury III de Montfort, Count of Evreux, and Agnès de Garlande, daughter of Anseau de Garlande, Count of Rochefort, and Beatrice de Montlhery.
Marriages and issue
     "In 1161 Isabelle married her first husband, Geoffroy, Seigneur de Mayenne whose first wife Constance of Brittany had died in 1148.[1] Together Geoffroy and Isabelle had:
** Clémence de Mayenne (died before 1209), married Robert de Sablé, Grand Master of the Knights Templar,[2] by whom she had three children including Marguerite de Sablé, Dame de Sablé.
** Juhel III, Seigneur de Mayenne (1168 – 12 April 1220),[2] married Gervaise de Vitré, by whom he had three children. A celebrated Crusader, he was killed in battle in 1220 at the age of fifty-two.
** Matilda, married Andrew de Vitre[2]

     "Geoffroy died in 1169. Isabelle, aged about twenty-two, married secondly in 1170 Maurice II, Sire de Craon, the son of Hughes I, Sire de Craon.[1] Together they had seven children:
** Avoise de Craon (died 1230), married Guy of Laval and Yves Le Franc.
** Maurice III, Sire de Craon (died after 1224), married and fathered two sons.
** Pierre de Craon (died before 1206)
** Philippe de Craon (died young)
** Amaury I, Sire de Craon (1175–1226), married Jeanne des Roches, the daughter of his half-niece, Marguerite de Sablé, by whom he had three children including Isabelle de Craon. This meant that Isabelle de Meulan's daughter-in-law was also her great-granddaughter.
** Constance de Craon, a nun at the Abbey of Clarei
** Agnes de Craon

     "Isabelle was appointed guardian of Maurice's lands and their children when he left for Jerusalem on Crusade. The Gesta Guillelm Majoris Andegavensis Episcopi names Isabelle among those present at the burial of the Bishop Guillaume on an unknown date during the reign of King Philip II of France. Her husband died 12 July 1196. Isabelle herself died on 10 May 1220 at the age of about seventy-two years. Her death occurred just a month after the death in battle of her eldest son, Juhel. She was buried in Savigny.
References
1. Couch 1986, p. 76.
2. Power 2004, p. 508.
Sources
** Crouch, David (1986). The Beaumont Twins: The Roots and Branches of Power in the Twelfth Century. Cambridge University Press.
** Power, Daniel (2004). The Norman Frontier in the Twelfth and Early Thirteenth Centuries. Cambridge University Press."12

; Per Racines et Histoire: "2) Isabeau de Meulan ° ~1147 + 10/05/1220 dame de Meulan
     ép.1) ~1161 Geoffroi II (ou IV), seigneur de Mayenne (53) ° 1147 + 25/07/1169 (ou 18/02/1170 ?) (fils de Juhel, seigneur de Mayenne, et de Clémence de Ponthieu)
     ép. 2) ~1170 Maurice II de Craon, seigneur de Craon, croisé (1192), ° après 1132 + 12/07 ou 10/08/1196 (fils d’Hugues et d’Isabelle de Vitré)
postérité 1) Mayenne-Vitré (Mahaut) 2) Craon-Laval."13

; Per Racines et Histoire: "2) Maurice II ° après 1132 + 12/07 ou 10/08?/1196 seigneur de Craon, etc.
     ép. 1170 Isabeau de Meulan, dame de Beaumont-Le-Roger °~1147 + 10/05/1220."4
; Per Med Lands:
     "GEOFFROY [III] de Mayenne (-18 Feb or 25 Jul 1169). "Juhello principe Meduane et uxore eius Clementia et filio eorum Gaufrido primogenito" subscribed a charter dated 12 and 26 Jul 1128, under which property was restored to the abbey of Mont-Saint-Michel[391]. He succeeded his father in 1161 as Seigneur de Mayenne. He went on crusade in 1163[392].
     "m firstly CONSTANCE de Bretagne, daughter of CONAN III Duke of Brittany & his wife Matilda [of England] (-1148). Constance is shown in Europäische Stammtafeln as the younger daughter of Duke Conan III, died 1148[393]. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. The information has not therefore been verified.
     "m secondly ([1161]) as her first husband, ISABELLE de Meulan, daughter of GALERAN de Beaumont-le-Roger Comte de Meulan & his wife Agnes de Montfort Dame de Gournay-sur-Marne (-10 May 1220, bur Savigny). The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. Her two marriages are confirmed by the undated charter by which her son "Mauritius dominus Credoni" confirmed the donation by "Constantia soror mea" of revenue set by "dominus Juhellus frater meus" at "apud Harperiam" to the abbey of Clarei, by undated charter, witnessed by "…domina Isabel matre mea, domina Gervasia…"[394]. She married secondly ([1170]) Maurice [II] Seigneur de Craon. Henry II King of England confirmed a donation to Savigny by "Ysabell filie Gualerandi comitis de Mellento", with the consent of "filiis suis Juhello…filio Gaufridi de Meduana, et Mauricio et Petro, filiis Mauricii de Creon", by charter dated to [Apr 1180/Jan 1183][395]. "…Isabel uxore mea et filiis meis Mauritio et Petro et Philippo de Sauconeio, Paganus de Sancto Amatore, Guillelmi de Vitreio et Mauritius frater eius" witnessed the charter dated 1191 under which "Mauritius de Credone Hugonis filius" confirmed donations to "ecclesiæ de Rota"[396]. "Mauritius de Credone filius Hugonis" appointed "meæ uxoris Isabel" as guardian of his lands and his children in his undated testament when leaving for Jerusalem[397]. "Constancia soror domini Amaurici de Credone" donated property to Roë, with the consent of “...Isabel matris meæ et Juhel de Meduana et Amauricii de Credone fratrum meorum”, by charter dated 1217[398]. The Chronicon Savigniacensis Monasterii records the death in 1220 of "Juhellus de Meduana…domina Isabel mater eius"[399]. The Gesta Guillelmi Majoris Andegavensis Episcopi names “dominis de Credonio…et Isabella Domina de Credonio” among those present at the burial of Bishop Guillaume, undated but stated to be during the reign of Philippe II King of France[400]. The Chronicon Savigniacensis Monasterii records the death in 1220 of "Juhellus de Meduana…domina Isabel mater eius"[401]."
Med Lands cites:
[391] Abbayette saint-Michel 10, p. 21.
[392] Domesday Descendants, p. 577.
[393] ES II 75 Neu, at end of ES III.1.
[394] Guyard de la Fosse (1850), Preuves, XVII.
[395] Actes Henri II, Tome II, DCXXVIII, p. 238.
[396] Bodard de la Jacopière (1872), Renvoi E3, p. 598.
[397] Bodard de la Jacopière (1872), Renvoi E2, p. 596, quoting Coll. Housseau, Vol. VI, no. 2135.
[398] Broussillon (1893), Tome I, 239, p. 161.
[399] Ex Chronico Savigniacensis Monasterii, RHGF, Tome XVIII, p. 352.
[400] Gesta Guillelmi Majoris Andegavensis Episcopi, Spicilegium II, p. 161.
[401] Ex Chronico Savigniacensis Monasterii, RHGF, Tome XVIII, p. 351.
[402] ES XIII 133. According to Domesday Descendants, p. 577, all his children were by his wife Isabelle de Meulan.7

Family 1

Geoffroy II/III de Mayenne Sire de Mayenne d. bt 18 Feb 1169 - 25 Jul 1169
Children

Citations

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  22. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/anjounob.htm#AmauryICraondied1226
  23. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Clémence|Constance de Craon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00295206&tree=LEO
  24. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maurice III de Craon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00295201&tree=LEO

Hugues I de Craon seigneur de Craon1

M, #20788, b. circa 1100, d. between 1136 and 1140
FatherMaurice I de Craon seigneur de Craon b. c 1080, d. 1116
MotherEtiennette/Tiphanie (?) dame de Chantocé et d’Ingrande
ReferenceEDV25
Last Edited6 Nov 2020
     Hugues I de Craon seigneur de Craon was born circa 1100.1 He married Agnès de Laval circa 1124; his 1st wife.1 Hugues I de Craon seigneur de Craon married Marquise (Isabelle) de Vitré, daughter of André I de Vitré Seigneur of Vitré, Brittany and Agnes de Mortain, circa 1132; his 2nd wife.1
Hugues I de Craon seigneur de Craon died between 1136 and 1140.1
     EDV-25.

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Craon.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maurice II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00124709&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/anjounob.htm#MauriceIICraondied1196B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Marquise (Isabelle) de Vitré1

F, #20789, d. after 1162
FatherAndré I de Vitré Seigneur of Vitré, Brittany2,3 b. c 1054
MotherAgnes de Mortain3 b. c 1054
ReferenceEDV25
Last Edited9 Nov 2020
     Marquise (Isabelle) de Vitré married Hugues I de Craon seigneur de Craon, son of Maurice I de Craon seigneur de Craon and Etiennette/Tiphanie (?) dame de Chantocé et d’Ingrande, circa 1132; his 2nd wife.1
Marquise (Isabelle) de Vitré died after 1162.1
     EDV-25. Marquise (Isabelle) de Vitré was also known as Isabel Motquise.

Family

Hugues I de Craon seigneur de Craon b. c 1100, d. bt 1136 - 1140
Children

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Craon.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, André I de Vitré: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00124708&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Avoise de Craon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026213&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maurice II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00124709&tree=LEO
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/anjounob.htm#MauriceIICraondied1196B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Maurice I de Craon seigneur de Craon1,2

M, #20790, b. circa 1080, d. 1116
FatherRenaud II «Le Bourguignon» de Craon seigneurde Craon et de Sablé1,2 b. c 1060, d. Dec 1101
MotherAgnes/Domitille de Vitre1,2
ReferenceEDV26
Last Edited6 Nov 2020
     Maurice I de Craon seigneur de Craon was born circa 1080.2 He married Etiennette/Tiphanie (?) dame de Chantocé et d’Ingrande, daughter of Hugues (?) Sire de Chantocé, before 2 December 1101;
Her 1st husband.2,3
Maurice I de Craon seigneur de Craon died in 1116.1
Maurice I de Craon seigneur de Craon died between 1116 and 1117.2
     EDV-26.

Citations

  1. [S1936] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 25 Aug 2005: "Robert II of France to Maud de Bernake (was CP Addition:..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 25 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 25 Aug 2005."
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Craon.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Etiennette|Tiphaine de Chantocé: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00124703&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.