John Aske of Aughton, Yorks1

M, #68731, d. 1544
FatherSir Robert Aske of Aughton, Yorks1 b. b 1465, d. 1531
MotherElizabeth Clifford1
Last Edited3 Sep 2020
     John Aske of Aughton, Yorks married Eleanor Ryther, daughter of Sir Ralph Ryther Knt., of Ruther, Yorkshire and Katherine Constable.1,2
John Aske of Aughton, Yorks died in 1544.1

Family

Eleanor Ryther
Child

Citations

  1. [S2152] Brad Verity, "Verity email 25 Apr 2007: "Descents From Edward III For Judge Richard Aske, Regicide Counsel"," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (e-mail address) to e-mail address, 25 Apr 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 25 Apr 2007."
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Ryther 13i: p. 623. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert Aske, of Aughton: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00407491&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Eleanor Ryther1

F, #68732
FatherSir Ralph Ryther Knt., of Ruther, Yorkshire2 b. c 1451
MotherKatherine Constable2
Last Edited3 Sep 2020

Family

John Aske of Aughton, Yorks d. 1544
Child

Citations

  1. [S2152] Brad Verity, "Verity email 25 Apr 2007: "Descents From Edward III For Judge Richard Aske, Regicide Counsel"," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (e-mail address) to e-mail address, 25 Apr 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 25 Apr 2007."
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Ryther 13i: p. 623. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert Aske, of Aughton: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00407491&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Robert Aske of Aughton, Yorks, Heir of Aughton1,2

M, #68733, b. circa 1510, d. before 2 October 1542
FatherJohn Aske of Aughton, Yorks1,2 d. 1544
MotherEleanor Ryther1,2
Last Edited3 Sep 2020
     Robert Aske of Aughton, Yorks, Heir of Aughton married Elisabeth|Eleanor Markenfield, daughter of Sir Ninian Markenfield Knt., of Merkenfield Hall and Dorothy Gascoigne;
His 1st wife.1,2,3 Robert Aske of Aughton, Yorks, Heir of Aughton married Anne Sutton of Burton;
His 2nd wife.4 Robert Aske of Aughton, Yorks, Heir of Aughton was born circa 1510.2
Robert Aske of Aughton, Yorks, Heir of Aughton died before 2 October 1542; Date will proven.1,2

Family 1

Elisabeth|Eleanor Markenfield b. bt 1510 - 1515, d. b 1535
Child

Family 2

Anne Sutton of Burton
Child

Family 3

Child

Citations

  1. [S2152] Brad Verity, "Verity email 25 Apr 2007: "Descents From Edward III For Judge Richard Aske, Regicide Counsel"," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (e-mail address) to e-mail address, 25 Apr 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 25 Apr 2007."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert Aske, of Aughton: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00407491&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elisabeth|Eleanor Markenfield: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00407492&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne Sutton, of Burton: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00472907&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert Aske, of Aughton: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00407493&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Aske: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00472909&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert Aske: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00407501&tree=LEO
  8. [S4794] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in colonial and Medieval Families (5 Volumes) (n.p.: n.pub., 2013), Aske, 18, pp. 169-170. Hereinafter cited as Richardson [2013] Royal Ancestry.

Robert Aske of Aughton, Yorks1,2

M, #68734, d. 1590
FatherRobert Aske of Aughton, Yorks, Heir of Aughton1,3,2 b. c 1510, d. b 2 Oct 1542
MotherElisabeth|Eleanor Markenfield1,4,2 b. bt 1510 - 1515, d. b 1535
Last Edited3 Sep 2020
     Robert Aske of Aughton, Yorks married Elizabeth Dawnay, daughter of Sir John Dawnay of Sessay and Dorothy Neville.1,2,5
Robert Aske of Aughton, Yorks died in 1590.1,2
     Robert Aske of Aughton, Yorks
Richard Aske (1587-1656), junior counsel at the trial of Charles I in
1648, resided in London for years, but came from a long line of
Yorkshire gentry. He was admitted to the Inner Temple in 1606, and
became a staunch Puritan. He was appointed attorney of the King's
Bench by Parliament in 1644, and topped his career with the office of
Justice of the Upper Bench in 1649, which he served until his death.
His wife was a Yorkshire lady - Joan (d. 1666), widow of Thomas Lister
of Arnoldsbiggin, and daughter of Thomas Heber of Marton, Yorks.

Since the Askes of Aughton are the first Yorkshire family I've posted
on that married into the bloodline of Edward III in the 15th century,
I want to present them in more detail. The Askes originated in
Richmondshire as early as the 12th century. In the mid-14th century,
Richard Aske (d. 1369), a younger brother of that line, served in the
French wars of Edward III, became a king's yeoman and seneschal of
Howdenshire (a wapentake in the East Riding) and acquired various
lands there, chiefly the manor of Owsthorpe (3.5 miles ENE. of Howden,
in the parish of Eastrington). He was childless, so his younger
brother John Aske (d. 1395) succeeded to his office of seneschal of
Howdenshire and to Owsthorpe and the rest. One Sir John Shelvestrode
of Shelvestrode and other manors in Sussex, owed a substantial amount
of money (around 2,000 marks) to Richard Aske. Perhaps in lieu of
payment, Shelvestrode gave one of his daughters and co-heirs in
marriage to John Aske, which is how the family acquired Shelvestrode
and three other Sussex manors. Of their children, son and heir John
Aske of Owsthorpe (died 2 June 1429) married Elizabeth, a daughter of
Chief Justice William Gascoigne, and daughter Alice married German Hay
of Aughton, a manor 8 miles NNW. of Howden. The Hays were childless
and their heir was Alice's nephew Richard Aske of Owsthorpe (c.
1419-1460), son and heir of John Aske and Elizabeth Gascoigne.
Richard was married to Margaret (d. 1466), daughter of Sir Robert
Ughtred of Kexby (in the East Riding) in 1432 when he was only age 13,
so its possible his wardship and marriage had been obtained by
Ughtred, one of the most influential East Riding knights from 1430
to1460. Though Owsthorpe and the other Aske lands in Howdenshire were
held of the bishop of Durham, Richard's recently inherited manors of
Aughton and Everthorpe were held of the lordship of Mulgrave, which up
until 1415, had been the Lords de Mauley. When Piers de Mauley VIII,
5th Lord Mauley died childless, the Mulgrave lordship was given to his
sister Constance (d. 1450), wife of Sir John Bigod of Settrington.
Sir Robert Ughtred was kin to the Bigods thru his grandmother
Constance Sutton, widow of Piers de Mauley VI, 4th Lord Mauley, and he
undoubtedly helped arrange the marriage of his grandson John Aske to
Elizabeth, the eldest daughter of Sir Ralph Bigod, overlord of the
Aughton manor.

That Richard Aske of Aughton and Owsthorpe was able to marry his son
and heir to the bloodline of Edward III was due in no small part to
the influence his father-in-law wielded in East Yorkshire. The
marriage was arranged by 1452, and the feoffees he entrusted to
oversee the properties involved in the marriage settlement show the
increased status the Ughtred union had brought to the Askes. In
addition to father-in-law Sir Robert Ughtred, they included other
family such as cousin Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe and his
father-in-law John Nevill of Oversley (who in turn was a first cousin
to bride Elizabeth Bigod's mother), and such notables as John Kempe,
Archbishop of York and Richard Nevill, Earl of Salisbury (great-uncle
to the bride). Richard Aske's death in 1460, and the death of Sir
Ralph Bigod at the battle of Towton in 1461 delayed the marriage of
the young couple which took place in the summer of 1462, and in
September the surviving feoffees released the marriage settlement
properties.

Sir John Aske of Aughton (1443-1497) was a minor at his father's death
and his custody was granted to his mother. He came of age in 1464,
but little is known of his career other than his being knighted in
1481 during the Scottish campaign of Richard of Gloucester (later
Richard III), and being made a banneret the following year. By the c.
1480 Visitation pedigree of the family, he and his wife Elizabeth
Bigod had a total of 8 sons (Robert, Richard, John, William, Ralph,
George, Henry, Nicholas) and 3 daughters (Anne, Catherine, Margaret),
only 2 of whom (eldest daughter Anne and 7th son Henry) had died
young. Determining the fates of the younger sons of Sir John and
Elizabeth is difficult. When Sir John made his will in April 1497, he
left bequests only to sons Robert, John and William, though at least
one other son (the 6th one, George) was still alive at that point
(being mentioned in the 1507 will of his sister Katherine, Dame
Hastings). The younger sons of Sir John don't appear in family
Visitation pedigrees again until over 100 years later, when they are
listed in the 1585 & 1612 pedigrees, where only George Aske is shown
to have had issue. As John Aske, son of George, is mentioned in the
1529 will of George's elder brother Robert, his issue at least is
confirmed in a contemporary source, though no hint is given of his
wife's identity. So the question of whether or not issue of the
younger sons of Sir John Aske and Elizabeth Bigod survived, and for
how many generations, is open - yet the fact that no issue turns up in
subsequent Visitations would indicate the possibility is unlikely.
The daughters are less difficult - Katherine married (as his 2nd
wife), Sir John Hastings of Fenwick, and Margaret was unmarried in her
father's will, but said in the 1585 Visitation to have been the wife
of ------- Morley. Further identification of her husband is
unsuccessful. Elizabeth Bigod survived her husband, and appears to be
the defendant in the following Chancery suit.

C1/339/18 Thomas Marler v. Elizabeth Aske, widow: Detention of deeds
relating to messuages and land in Lathom.: York. 1504-1515

Her exact date of death is not known, but it was prior to 1529.

The marriage of Sir Robert Aske (born by 1465, knighted 1497, died 21
February 1531) to Elizabeth Clifford is more curious, as well as more
difficult to pin down. She was a few years older than him, as the
latest she could have been born is 1461, but they were not married in
the c.1480 Visitation pedigree of the family. Her father's death at
Towton and his subsequent attainder no doubt hurt her marriage
prospects, though her mother Margaret Bromflete was able to inherit
the Vescy estates in 1469. Elizabeth Clifford would have grown up on
her mother's chief estate of Londesborough, which was in the same
wapentake as Aughton, and her marriage to the Aske heir may have been
instigated by the young couple as much as by her mother or his
parents. It's curious that the marriage of Elizabeth's younger half-
sister Anne Threlkeld was arranged in 1468 to take place in 1471, long
before Elizabeth was married. The Clifford attainder may have made it
difficult for Lady Margaret to arrange a marriage, or she may have had
other reasons to delay doing so. At any rate, it must have been
shortly after the c.1480 Visitation pedigree, probably around 1481 or
1482 when Sir John Aske of Aughton was knighted and made a banneret,
that his son and heir was married to Elizabeth Clifford, though it is
possible that their marriage didn't occur until after her brother
Henry's restoration to the Clifford title and estates in late 1485.

Children followed immediately, though exactly how many is uncertain.
The 1530 Visitation pedigree of the family lists 3 sons (John,
Christopher, Robert) and 4 daughters (Margaret, Anne, Agnes, Dorothy),
repeated in the 1567 Visitation pedigree. We don't get husbands for
the daughters until the 1585 Visitation pedigree, where Margaret is
married to Sir Roger Bellingham, Anne to William Monkton, Agnes to
William Ellerker, and Dorothy to Richard Greene of Newby, all of which
are confirmed by contemporary sources. The 1585 pedigree assigns 3
additional daughters (Elizabeth, wife of ---Middleton, or Morton,
Mary, Eleanor) but these are not confirmed by contemporary sources.
All of the pedigrees leave out daughter Julian Aske, married by
January 1510 (as his 1st wife) to Thomas Portington of Portington,
Yorks., and of Sawcliffe, Lincs. (d. 1540). She is often incorrectly
identified as daughter of Sir John Aske and Eleanor Ryther, but her
identity as daughter of Sir Robert Aske is proven in the 1543 will of
Sir John Aske, in which his daughter Julian is not yet married, and
his "nephey" Henry Portington is named as executor. It's confirmed by
the 1612 Visitation pedigree of Portington, which names her as
daughter of Sir Robert Aske. The fact that Julian was left out of the
1530 Visitation pedigree of Aske, whose informant was her own brother
John, is curious. It could indicate she had died sometime prior to
it, or, less likely, that she was an illegitimate daughter of Sir
Robert. The younger sons of Sir Robert Aske and Elizabeth Clifford,
Robert and Christopher, are well-known as key players in the
Pilgrimage of Grace. Neither one left issue. Elizabeth Clifford was
dead by 1529, but her exact date of death is not known.

John Aske of Aughton (d. 1544) suffered from poor health and was never
knighted. His marriage to Eleanor Ryther originally was merely
advantageous from a social standpoint, as her father Sir Ralph Ryther
was an influential man in county administration and was closely
connected with the earls of Northumberland. The dates of their
marriage and of her death are not known. They were married by 1520,
and she predeceased John. John Aske did well from the Dissolution,
trading the family's Sussex estates to the crown for the former priory
of Ellerton (in the same wapentake as Aughton), the manor of Deighton,
and other Yorkshire holdings, in 1542. He and Eleanor had 5 sons
(Robert, Christopher, Anthony, John, Richard) and 3 daughters (Anne,
Elizabeth, Julian). Of the younger children, Anthony Aske d.s.p. May
1546, Richard Aske was given Owsthorpe as his seat, married 1567
Elizabeth Hall (who predeceased him), and was buried 31 March 1590
(will dated 10 Jan. 1590, pr. 12 Oct. 1590), leaving 3 sons and 2
daughters, and Julian Aske married (as his 3rd wife) John Vavasour of
Spaldington.

The eldest son Robert Aske studied law in London, but predeceased his
father John. His will was dated 20 September, and proved 2 October
1542. By his first wife, Eleanor Markenfield, he had two sons (John
died young, Robert), and by his second wife Anne Sutton, he had 2 more
sons (Christopher, William) and 3 daughters (Mary died young,
Elizabeth, Dorothy). Christopher's fate is unknown, William went on
to marry and have several children, Elizabeth married (by 1567)
Gabriel Fairfax, and Dorothy married (by 1567) Henry Fairfax.

Robert Aske, son of Robert Aske and Eleanor Markenfield, was a co-heir
of his great-uncle Henry Ryther of Ryther, and inherited the manors of
Ryther, Ossendike and Stockbridge, plus various other holdings, in
1544. He also had two wives: by his first, Elizabeth Dawnay, he had
John, Mary, Jane, Elizabeth and Eleanor, all by 1567. By his second
wife Ellen Meering, he had one further son, Francis Aske of Owsthorpe
(baptized at Ryther 26 Dec.1585, married Anne Holbeach, buried at
Eastrington 2 Jan. 1641, s.p.), and several more daughters. Robert
Aske of Aughton and Ryther died 31 August 1590. His widow Ellen
married 2ndly in 1593, George Constable of Everingham.

John Aske (1565-1605), son and heir of Robert by Elizabeth Dawnay, ran
up enormous debts and was forced to sell off all of the manors and
estates that the Askes had accumulated since 1369, so that by his
death the only Yorkshire property he had left was a lease of Bubwith
Ferry. But from John's son Richard, the London judge (whose four
descents from Edward III thru Joan Beaufort are given below), and
other offshoots of the Askes of Aughton, male line descendants of Sir
John Aske and Elizabeth Bigod continue today.

Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland (c.1379-1440) had a son (D1)
and 3 daughters (A1, B1 & C1)

A1) Elizabeth Ferrers, Lady Greystoke (1393-1434), who had
A2) Anne Greystoke (d. 1477) m. 1433 Sir Ralph Bigod of Settrington
(1410-1461), and had
A3) Elizabeth Bigod (c.1445-15--) m. 1462 Sir John Aske of Aughton,
Yorks. (1443-1497), and had
A4) Sir Robert Aske of Aughton (by 1465-1531) m. c.1482 Elizabeth
Clifford (descended from Edward III but not thru Joan Beaufort), and
had
A5) John Aske of Aughton (d. 1544) m. Eleanor Ryther, and had
A6) Robert Aske of Aughton (d. 1542) m. 1) Eleanor Markenfield (see B6
below), and had
A7) Robert Aske of Aughton (d. 1590) m. 1) Elizabeth Dawnay (see D5
below), and had
A8) John Aske of Aughton (1565-1605) m. 1582 Christian Fairfax (liv.
1612), and had
A9) Richard Aske of London (1587-1656), Justice of the Upper Bench
1659

B1) Mary Ferrers, Lady Neville of Oversley (1394-1458), had
B2) John Neville of Oversley (d. 1482), who had
B3) Joan Neville m. Sir William Gascoigne (d. 1463), and had
B4) Sir William Gascoigne (c.1450-1487) m. Margaret Percy (see C3
below), and had
B5) Dorothy Gascoigne (c.1485-c.1520) m. c.1500 Sir Ninian Markenfield
of Markenfield Hall (d. 1528), and had
B6) Eleanor Markenfield (c.1510/15-by 1535) m. Robert Aske of Aughton
(see A6 above)

C1) Eleanor Nevill, Countess of Northumberland (d. 1473), who had
C2) Henry Percy, 3rd Earl of Northumberland (1421-1461), who had
C3) Margaret Percy m. Sir William Gascoigne (see B4 above)

D1) George Nevill, 1st Lord Latimer (c.1411-1469), who had
D2) Sir Henry Nevill (d. 1469) m. Joan Bourchier (d. 1470, descended
from Edward III but not thru Joan Beaufort), and had
D3) Richard Nevill, 2nd Lord Latimer (1468-1530), who had
D4) Dorothy Nevill (1496-1532) m. 1514 Sir John Dawnay of Sessay (d.
1553), and had
D5) Elizabeth Dawnay m. Robert Aske of Aughton (see B7 above)

Cheers, -------Brad.1

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants to the American Colonies of the United States; Baltimore, 2004, Roberts, Gary Boyd. 187.
2. The Royal Descents of 500 Immigrants to the American Colonies or the USA, Baltimore, 1993, Roberts, Gary Boyd. 153.
3. Acclom of Moreby, The Visitation of Yorkshire 1584/5 by Robert Glover, printed 1875, Foster, Joseph. 119.

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Citations

  1. [S2152] Brad Verity, "Verity email 25 Apr 2007: "Descents From Edward III For Judge Richard Aske, Regicide Counsel"," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (e-mail address) to e-mail address, 25 Apr 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 25 Apr 2007."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert Aske, of Aughton: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00407493&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert Aske, of Aughton: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00407491&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elisabeth|Eleanor Markenfield: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00407492&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Dawney: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00407494&tree=LEO

Joan de Lucy1,2

F, #68735, d. 4 July 1369
FatherAnthony de Lucy 1st Lord Lucy, of Papcastle1,2 b. b 24 Aug 1283, d. b 10 Jun 1343
MotherElizabeth de Tiliol1,2
Last Edited13 Dec 2012
     Joan de Lucy married Sir William de Melton.1,3,2
Joan de Lucy died on 4 July 1369.1
     Joan de Lucy
Hello All,

Following is a 5 generation AT for Joan de Lucy, daughter of Sir
Anthony de Lucy and Elizabeth de Tilliol and heiress (in her issue) of
her niece Maud, Baroness Lucy.

Cheers,

John

___________________________________________


1 Joan de Lucy. Joan died on 4 Jul 1369.[1]

heiress (in her issue) of her niece Maud, Baroness Lucy[1]

cf. Fasti Ebor I:428[2]

aft 7 Jan 1339 Joan married Sir William de Melton.[2],[3]


2 Anthony de Lucy.
Born bef 24 Aug 1283.[1]
died bef 10 Jun 1343, he was 59.[1]

of Papcastle (Allerdale below Derwent), Cumberland[4]

Sheriff of Cumberland and Westmoreland, 1318-19, 1323, 1338-41

fought at the Battle of Bannockburn, 25 June 1314; escaped
together with Humphrey de Bohun, John de Segrave and others
to Bothwell Castle
- made prisoner there by Walter fitz Gilbert, constable of
Bothwell, and ransomed by King Robert (Barrow p. 330, cites
Barbour (237) and Vita Edwardi II, 55[5])

ransomed before December 1315

summoned to Parliament from 15 May 1321 to 24 Feb 1342/43 by
writs directed 'Antonio de Lucy', whereby held to have become
Lord Lucy
arrested Harcla at Carlisle Castle, 1322

granted in fee the castle and honor of Cockermouth for his
service at Carlisle, 4 June 1323 *

* Sanders shows this was the half of Allerdale below Derwent
not inherited by de Lucy through Alice de Lucy (Sanders p. 135)[4]

Justiciar of Ireland March 1330/31 to Sept 1332[1]

Anthony married Elizabeth de Tiliol[1].


3 Elizabeth de Tiliol.[1]

' Elizabeth wife of Anthony de Lucy ' [Wilson, The Tilliols:
The Ancestor IV:100[6]]

Sir Daniel Fleming of Rydal, in his Description of the County
of Westmoreland (1671), wrote,
' Anthony Lord Lucy brother and heir to the last Thomas Lucy,
succeeded in the inheritance. He married Elizabeth the
daughter of Robt Tilliolf Lord of Scaleby. ' [Duckett, ed.
Westmorland p. 44[7]; see also p. 154 concerning the
"Tylliolf" lords of Scaleby: ' Geoffrey had issue Robert
Tylliolf who died 18 Ed. 2nd, he purchased the third part
of Levington, and had issue Peter or Piers and a daughter
Elizabeth wife of Anthony Lucy.'[7]]


4 Thomas de Lucy. Thomas died bef 9 Apr 1305.[1]

of Papcastle (Allerdale below Derwent), Cumberland

fined for a knight's fee in Cumberland, 1283[1]

in 1292 the market and fair at Kirkoswald, Cumbs.) were held
by ' Thomas son of Thomas de Multon de Gilleslaund,' who
claimed to be the heir of the grantee, although this was
challenged by the Crown (QW, p. 122). '[8] - claim based
on his descent from Hugh de Morville

In 1279 Thomas married Isabel de Boltby.[9]


5 Isabel de Boltby.

coheiress of her father (Sanders p. 127)[4]

had the manors of Langdale in Cumberland, and Hayden and
Alrewas as her maritagium[9]


6 Sir Robert de Tiliol.[10]
Born bef 1266.[6]
died in 1321, he was 55.[6]

of Scaleby, Cumberland, and of Swine in Holderness (de jure uxoris)

2nd husband

IPM of Sir Robert de Tiliol, 14 Edw. II, No. 42 [1321 - The
Ancestor IV:94[6]]

cf. VCH VII:111[11]
Wilson, The Tilliols (The Ancestor IV:93-94)[6]

ca 1292 when Sir Robert was 26, he married Maud de Lascelles.[12]


7 Maud de Lascelles.
died in 1343.[11],[10]

3rd daughter and coheiress with her sisters[1]

Agreement concerning the division of the inheritance, dated
27 June 1302:
' Agreement between Joan widow of Thomas de Colewynne, Sir
Robert de Tylyolle and wife Matilda, Sir Ralph Fitz Ranulph
and wife Theophila, and Robert le Constable and wife Avice
(daughters and heirs of Sir Roger de Lascelles) on the
division of Sir Roger's fees in Yorks., Westmorland and Lincs.
: property homage, service and fees of free towns of [...]
Sournta' and Estkryke, co. Yorks., to remain to Joan de C.
: All in Yorks to remain to Robert and Avice le C.
: All others in Lincs. and in Westmorland to remain to
Robert and Matilda de T. and Ralph and Theophila Fitz R.
Given at Eskryke, Wed. after Nat. St. John baptist. 30 Ed. I. '
- A2A, East Riding of Yorkshire Archives and Records Service:
Chichester-Constable Family [DDCC/111 - DDCC/135], DDCC/135/51[13]

she was widowed again in 1321, and certainly by 17 July 1322:
letter of protection dated at York, 17 July 1322:
' Protection with clause nolumus for one year for [the following], who is constantly attendant upon the king's
service: -
Matilda, late the wife of Robert Tyliol. '
[CPR 16 Edw. II, p. 174, mem. 23[14]]

exchanged her share of Kirby Knowle, co. Yorks to sister Avice
for an additional share of Ellerton-on-Derwent, co. Yorks[1],
dated 12 March 1324/25:
' Gift: Matilda widow of Sir Robert de Tilliol to Sir Robert le
Constable of Holdernesse and his wife Dame Avice property
all her share of the manor of Kirby-underknoll, With 1
messuage, 1 bovate, 46½ ac. 1r. 10 p., and rents of 4s. 8¾d.
and 1 lb. of pepper in Eskryk (Reserving a fourth part of the
manor of the town and of the advowson of Estkryk) ie the
messuage William Foster holds at will, a bovate Henry Pechard
sometime held, 31 ac. 1r. 10 p. in Prestring, 2½ ac.
in Robriding, 3 ac. in Martinriding, 3 ac., 2s. 8¾d yearly from
Matilda de Eskryk for a messuage and 2 bovates, and 2s. and
1 lb. pepper yearly from Emma de Sellis for a messuage and 2
bovates.
.......
In exchange for all their property in the manor of Ellerton
super Derwent
Witn. Sir William de Thweng or Tweng, John de Sutton,
William de la Tower, Thomas de Pyke, Walter de Fauconbridge,
Roger de la Hay. Given at Halsham in Holdernesse, St.
Gregory 1324. ' - A2A, East Riding of Yorkshire Archives and
Records Service: Chichester-Constable Family
[DDCC/111 - DDCC/135], DDCC/135/51[13]

she rendered homage to the Archbishop of York for certain lands
in Swine:
' 1325, Aug. 29. In manerio domini apud Burton prope
Beverlacum, domina Matilda Tyliol fecit domino Willelmo,
etc., hom. et juravit sibi fid. pro terris et ten. quae
clamat tenere de eo in Swyna; et habet diem ad certificandum
dictum dominum quae ten. et terras tenet de eo, et per quae
servitia, citra festum Sancti Michaelis proximo futurum.
Ibid. ' [Kirkby's Inquest, p. 416[15]]

" scon bacheler Robert de Hilton ", wrote a letter to
Archbishop William de Melton ca Dec 1325, thanking him for
meeting his mother, "ma dame ma mere" at his request,
concerning the manor of Swine. [ ' A Letter from Robert
de Hilton to Archbishop Melton concerning the manor of
Swine ' [Reg. archiep. Melton, inter ff. 566, 567]',
Kirkby's Inquest, p. 440. The notes to this letter state,
' A copy of this letter is entered in Melton's Register
(fol. 566b) among documents dated in December, 1325.
Matilda, daughter and coheiress of Sir Roger de Lascelles,
and widow of Sir William de Hilton and Sir Robert de
Tiliol (Poulson's Holderness, ii., 197). On Aug. 29th,
1325, Matilda Tyliol did homage to archbishop Melton "pro
terris et ten. quae clamat tenere de eo in Swyna" (Kirkby's
Inquest, page 416).' ][15]


held Swine in dower - 'Robertus Tyliol' was lord of Swine
[Kirkby's Inquest, p. 305 -
'Nomina Villarum' for Yorkshire, 9 Edw. II (1316)[15]]

she m. 1stly William de Hilton,
2ndly Robert de Tiliol[1]

cf. Wilson, The Tilliols (The Ancestor IV:93-94)[6]


8 Alan de Multon. Alan died aft 1249.[1]

younger son

he m. lstly Serota de Lancaster (Sanders p. 57, note 3)[4],
2ndly Alice de Lucy

bef 1219 Alan married Alice de Lucy.[1]


9 Alice de Lucy.
died bef 24 Mar 1287.[1]

coheiress of her father[1]

her inheritance included half the lordship of Papcastle
(Allerdale below Derwent), Cumberland (Sanders p. 134-5)[4]


10 Adam de Boltby.
died in 1281.[4]

of Langley, Northumberland


12 Geoffrey de Tiliol.
ca 1230.[6]
died in 1295, he was 65.[6]

of Scaleby, Cumberland

cf. Wilson, The Tilliols (The Ancestor IV:90-92)[6]


14 Roger de Lascelles.
died ca 1300.[1]

of Barbon, Westmoreland; Maunby and Kirby Knowle, co. York
identified as 'Roger de Magneby' in charter of 29 Mar 1253[1]

Sided with baronial party against King Henry III 1265

safe conduct dated at Westminster, 30 Jan 1265/6 :
' Safe conduct until three weeks after Easter for Roger de
Lasceles, coming to the king's court, provided that he stand
his trial etc. ' [CPR Hen III (1258-1266), mem. 32, p. 542[16]]

pardoned 1266

lord of Ellerton-on-Derwent, Kirby Knowle, Carperby, Scruton,
Thrintoft and Kirby Wiske, Yorks.[1]

' Rogero de Lascelys', held the manor of Kirby Knowle, co.
York. of Hugh de Hupsale, ca. 1281 [Kirkby's Inquest,
p. 96[15]]; also 1/2 carucate and 12 bovates in Maunby of
the Earl of Richmond; 6 carucates in Kirby Knowle of the
Earl, and 3 carucates in Newby on Wysk, 1284-5 [Kirkby's
Inquest, p. 176[15]]

Summoned to Parliament from 24 June 1295 by writ directed
'Rogero de Lasceles', held thereby to have become Lord
Lascelles[1]

Roger married Elizabeth 'filia Willielmi'[1].


15 Elizabeth 'filia Willielmi'.[1]
died bef 25 May 1323.[1],[17]

'Isabel' [Knights I:233, III:17[17]]

identified in 1575 Visitation as daughter of William fitz Thomas
(evidently in error)

record of her tenancy in 1301, manor of 'Kyrkeby sub Knol' :
" De Isabella de Lasceles ....... vs. vd. o. q. ' [Brown,
Yorkshire Lay Subsidies, YAJ XXI:84[18]]

received the manor of Ellerton-on-Derwent as her maritagium[1]:

concerning her maritagium, Kirkby's Inquest, p. 89, note
states as follows (ca. 1284-5):
' 7-9 Edward I. On a plea of Quo Warranto before John de
Vaux and others, Roger de Lasceles
"dicit quod tenet manerium suum de Hellerton, ut liberum
maritagium Elizabethae uxoris suae, de Willelmo [filio]
Thomae, qui ipsum inde defendit et acquietet contra
omnes homines " (Plac. de Quo Warr., 200). ' [15]

cf. VCH III:20[19]
_____________________________


16 Sir Thomas de Multon.
died in 1240.[1]

knt., of Moulton, co. Lincs.
supporter of King John, then of the barons by Easter 1215;
captured by King John at Rochester and imprisoned at Corfe
December 1215 (freed after death of John , 1216)

Knighted 1224
sheriff of Cumberland 27 January 1232/33 - 1236[1]

he m. 1stly Sarah de Flete,
2ndly Ada de Morville

ca 1190 Sir Thomas married Sarah de Flete.[1]


17 Sarah de Flete.


18 Richard de Lucy.
died in 1213.[1],[4]
lord of Egremont.

of Egremont, Cumberland

Hugh de Morville received permission for the marriage of his
daughter Ada to Richard de Lucy, 1200:
' Hugh de Morevill owes 2 destriers (Dextrarios) for permitting
a marriage between his daughter and Richard de Egremont. '
[VCH Cumberland I:386[21], extract from Pipe Roll 2 John]

' Ricardus de Lucy ', granted the church of Burgh to Holm
Cultram priory, "pro salute animae meae, et pro anima Hugonis
de Moreville" [Mon. Angl. V:596, num. X[22]]

had grants by charter from King John for a market and fair at
Ravenglass, Cumberland:
' M (Charter) Sat; mercatum, granted 20 Aug 1208, by K[ing]
John to Richard de Lucy. ' To be held at the manor ' (RCh,
p. 182). In 1208, Richard de Luci owed a good palfrey for
the market and the fair (below) (PR, 10 John, p. 44). Sat
market held by Thomas son of Lambert de Multon recorded in
1292, which he claimed of old (QW, p. 114).
F (Charter) f, James the Apostle (25 Jul); feria gr 20 Aug
1208, by K John to Richard de Lucy. To be held at the manor
(RCh, p. 182). In 1208, Richard de Luci owed a good palfrey
for the fair and the market (above) (PR, 10 John, p. 44). Fair
held by Thomas son of Lambert de Multon recorded in 1292, which
he claimed of old (QW, p. 114). On 4 Apr 1322, a third of a
fair (the feast of which was not specified) was assigned to
Eleanor, late the wife of Thomas de Multon of Egremont, in
dower (CCR, 1318-22, p. 567). '[8]


In 1200 Richard married Ada de Morville.[21]


19 Ada de Morville.
died aft 1229.[1]

elder daughter and coheiress of her father
[ heiress in her issue of full Morville inheritance, on
failure of descendants of sister Joan - CP IX:401n[1];
also Sanders, p. 24[4]]

her father received permission for the marriage of Ada to
Richard de Lucy, 1200:
' Hugh de Morevill owes 2 destriers (Dextrarios) for permitting
a marriage between his daughter and Richard de Egremont. '
[VCH Cumberland I:386[21], extract from Pipe Roll 2 John]

she m. lstly Richard de Lucy,
2ndly (as 2nd wife) Thomas de Multon

cf. CP IX:401 sub _Multon_[1];
Sanders, p. 24[4]


20 Nicholas de Boltby.
died bef 31 Oct 1272.[12],[4]

of Langley, Northumberland de jure uxoris

' Nicholas de Bolteby ', had charters for a market and fair
granted 26 Jun 1267, by King Henry III, ' To be held at the
manor '. (CChR, 1257-1300, p. 77)[8]

'knight of the shire', Parliament of 1258[12]
cf. YAS XCI:19[12]

Nicholas married Philippa de Tindale.


21 Philippa de Tindale.


24 Sir Peter de Tiliol.
Born aft 1192.[6]
died bef 18 Nov 1246, he was 54.[6]

of Scaleby, Cumberland

IPM of Sir Peter de Tiliol, 5 Dec 1246 (30 Hen. III No. 46[6])

cf. Wilson, The Tilliols (The Ancestor IV:90-91)[6]

Sir Peter married Mary.


25 Mary.


cf. Wilson, The Tilliols (The Ancestor IV:91)[6]


28 Thomas de Maunby.
died bef 20 Jan 1238.[1]

first husband of Avice de Lascelles;
lord of Kirby Knowle, Westmoreland[1]

Thomas married Avice de Lascelles.


29 Avice de Lascelles.
died bef 1261.[1]

heiress of her brother Roger de Lascelles; identified as
niece of Picot de Lascelles and great-granddaughter of
Picot de Lascelles[1]

cf. VCH III:20[19] [Escrick]


30 Sir William fitz Ralph.
died aft Jun 1269.[1]

knight, of Grimthorpe and Hildreskelf, co. York[1]

' The Baron of Craistoke holds in Beleby [Beilby, Hayton parish], of the Earl, six carucates of land for 8s rent; Sir
William fitz Ralph of Crimpthorpe holds 18 carucates for
£4 8s. 7 1/2 d; Ralph de Lascelles, 27 bovates in Brunneby
[Burnby], for 20s; and they all do suit. ' [IPM of William
de Fortibus, Earl of Albemarle, writ dated at Westminster,
1 Aug 1260 - Yorks. Inqs. I:76[23]]

Sir William married Joan de Greystoke.


31 Joan de Greystoke.

Genealogics #I00451657[24]

re: her husband:

knight, of Grimthorpe and Hildreskelf, co. York[1]





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On Apr 30, 10:11 pm, "John P. Ravilious" wrote:
> > Monday, 30 April, 2007
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > The account in Complete Peerage concerning Anthony de Lucy, Lord
> > Lucy (d. bef 10 June 1343) identifies his wife only as Elizabeth.
> >
> > No direct evidence as to her identity has been found to date,
> > but two secondary sources identify her as Elizabeth de Tiliol (or
> > Tilliolf), daughter of Sir Robert de Tiliol of Scaleby, Cumberland,
> > and his wife Maud de Lasceles (widow of Sir William de Hilton of
> > Swine and Winestead, co. Yorks.):
> >
> > 1. In a pedigree of the Tilliol family, Rev. James Wilson
> > shows one daughter of Sir Robert de Tilliol and his wife
> > Maud as ' Elizabeth wife of Anthony de Lucy ' [1].
> >
> > 2. In 1671, Sir Daniel Fleming of Rydal wrote concerning
> > the "Tylliolf" lords of Scaleby: ' Geoffrey had issue Robert
> > Tylliolf who died 18 Ed. 2nd, he purchased the third part
> > of Levington, and had issue Peter or Piers and a daughter
> > Elizabeth wife of Anthony Lucy' [2].
> >
> > We certainly find Sir Peter de Tiliol and Sir Anthony de Lucy
> > closely associated, including letters of protection granted on
> > 8 June 1322 at Haddlesey for ' Andrew de Hartcla, earl of Carlisle,
> > staying in the Marches of Scotland on the king's service ' as well
> > as for those individuals (including John de Haverington, Anthony de
> > Lucy, Ralph de Nevill, Ranulf de Dacre, Peter de Tilliolf and
> > others) ' staying in his company ' [3].
> >
> > Elizabeth de Tiliol was evidently named for her maternal
> > grandmother, Elizabeth, daughter of Sir William fitz Ralph, of
> > Grimthorpe and Hildreskelf, co. York (d. aft June 1269) and his
> > wife Joan de Greystoke. This identification provides some modest
> > increase in the known ancestry of the Tilliols, as well as the
> > Lords Lucy (incl. the later Lords Lucy of the Melton family) and
> > their descendants of the Pierrepont, Lowe and other families.
> >
> > I will post a limited AT for Elizabeth de Tiliol in a
> > subsequent post. Should anyone have any further relevant
> > documentation, comment or criticism, that would be most
> > welcome.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > John *
> >
> > NOTES
> >
> > [1] Rev. James Wilson, Some Extinct Cumberland Families: The
> > Tilliols. The Ancestor: A Quarterly Review of County and
> > Family History, Heraldry and Antiquities (London: Archibald
> > Constable & Co. Ltd., Jan. 1903), Num. IV, p. 100.
> >
> > [2] Sir G. F. Duckett, Bart., ed., Description of the County of
> > Westmoreland, by Sir Daniel Fleming of Rydal, A.D. 1671
> > (London: Bernard Quaritch; Kendal: T. Wilson, 1882), p. 154.
> >
> > [3] CPR 16 Edw. II, p. 130, mem. 9.
> >
> > * John P. Ravilious.1

Reference: van de Pas cites: 1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 336
2. The Wallop Family and Their Ancestry 1928 , Watney, Vernon James, Reference: 508.2

Family

Sir William de Melton b. c 1317, d. 1362
Child

Citations

  1. [S2153] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 1 May 2007: "Re: CP Addition: Elizabeth de Tiliol, wife of Anthony,     Lord Lucy (d. 1343)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 1 May 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 1 May 2007."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan de Lucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429861&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William de Melton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429860&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William de Melton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429862&tree=LEO

Sir William de Melton1,2

M, #68736, b. circa 1317, d. 1362
Last Edited13 Dec 2012
     Sir William de Melton married Joan de Lucy, daughter of Anthony de Lucy 1st Lord Lucy, of Papcastle and Elizabeth de Tiliol.1,2,3 Sir William de Melton was born circa 1317.2
Sir William de Melton died in 1362.2
     Reference: van de Pas cites: 1. The Wallop Family and Their Ancestry 1928 , Watney, Vernon James, Reference: 540
2. Harleian Society Publications Visitation series , Reference: 95;286.2

Family

Joan de Lucy d. 4 Jul 1369
Child

Citations

  1. [S2153] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 1 May 2007: "Re: CP Addition: Elizabeth de Tiliol, wife of Anthony,     Lord Lucy (d. 1343)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 1 May 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 1 May 2007."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William de Melton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429860&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan de Lucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429861&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William de Melton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429862&tree=LEO

Elizabeth de Tiliol1

F, #68737
FatherSir Robert de Tiliol1 b. b 1266, d. 1321
MotherMaud de Lascelles1 d. 1343
Last Edited7 Jun 2020
     Elizabeth de Tiliol married Anthony de Lucy 1st Lord Lucy, of Papcastle, son of Thomas de Lucy and Isabel de Boltby.1
     Elizabeth de Tiliol
' Elizabeth wife of Anthony de Lucy ' [Wilson, The Tilliols:
The Ancestor IV:100[6]]

Sir Daniel Fleming of Rydal, in his Description of the County
of Westmoreland (1671), wrote,
' Anthony Lord Lucy brother and heir to the last Thomas Lucy,
succeeded in the inheritance. He married Elizabeth the
daughter of Robt Tilliolf Lord of Scaleby. ' [Duckett, ed.
Westmorland p. 44[7]; see also p. 154 concerning the
"Tylliolf" lords of Scaleby: ' Geoffrey had issue Robert
Tylliolf who died 18 Ed. 2nd, he purchased the third part
of Levington, and had issue Peter or Piers and a daughter
Elizabeth wife of Anthony Lucy.'[7]1]

Family

Anthony de Lucy 1st Lord Lucy, of Papcastle b. b 24 Aug 1283, d. b 10 Jun 1343
Children

Citations

  1. [S2153] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 1 May 2007: "Re: CP Addition: Elizabeth de Tiliol, wife of Anthony,     Lord Lucy (d. 1343)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 1 May 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 1 May 2007."
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3L-O.htm#AnthonyLucydied1343B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3L-O.htm#ThomasLucydied1365
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan de Lucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429861&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Sir Robert de Tiliol1

M, #68738, b. before 1266, d. 1321
FatherGeoffrey de Tiliol of Scaleby, Cumberland1 b. c 1230, d. 1295
Last Edited17 Nov 2007
     Sir Robert de Tiliol married Maud de Lascelles, daughter of Roger de Lascelles and Elizabeth filia Willielmi (?); her 2nd husband.1 Sir Robert de Tiliol was born before 1266.1
Sir Robert de Tiliol died in 1321.1
     Sir Robert de Tiliol
Sir Robert de Tiliol.[10]
Born bef 1266.[6]
died in 1321, he was 55.[6]

of Scaleby, Cumberland, and of Swine in Holderness (de jure uxoris)

2nd husband

IPM of Sir Robert de Tiliol, 14 Edw. II, No. 42 [1321 - The
Ancestor IV:94[6]]

cf. VCH VII:111[11]
Wilson, The Tilliols (The Ancestor IV:93-94)[6]

ca 1292 when Sir Robert was 26, he married Maud de Lascelles.[12]1

Citations

  1. [S2153] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 1 May 2007: "Re: CP Addition: Elizabeth de Tiliol, wife of Anthony,     Lord Lucy (d. 1343)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 1 May 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 1 May 2007."

Maud de Lascelles1

F, #68739, d. 1343
FatherRoger de Lascelles1 d. c 1300
MotherElizabeth filia Willielmi (?)1 d. b 25 May 1323
Last Edited17 Nov 2007
     Maud de Lascelles married Sir Robert de Tiliol, son of Geoffrey de Tiliol of Scaleby, Cumberland; her 2nd husband.1 Maud de Lascelles married William de Hilton; her 1st husband.1
Maud de Lascelles died in 1343.1
     Maud de Lascelles
Maud de Lascelles.
died in 1343.[11],[10]

3rd daughter and coheiress with her sisters[1]

Agreement concerning the division of the inheritance, dated
27 June 1302:
' Agreement between Joan widow of Thomas de Colewynne, Sir
Robert de Tylyolle and wife Matilda, Sir Ralph Fitz Ranulph
and wife Theophila, and Robert le Constable and wife Avice
(daughters and heirs of Sir Roger de Lascelles) on the
division of Sir Roger's fees in Yorks., Westmorland and Lincs.
: property homage, service and fees of free towns of [...]
Sournta' and Estkryke, co. Yorks., to remain to Joan de C.
: All in Yorks to remain to Robert and Avice le C.
: All others in Lincs. and in Westmorland to remain to
Robert and Matilda de T. and Ralph and Theophila Fitz R.
Given at Eskryke, Wed. after Nat. St. John baptist. 30 Ed. I. '
- A2A, East Riding of Yorkshire Archives and Records Service:
Chichester-Constable Family [DDCC/111 - DDCC/135], DDCC/135/51[13]

she was widowed again in 1321, and certainly by 17 July 1322:
letter of protection dated at York, 17 July 1322:
' Protection with clause nolumus for one year for [the following], who is constantly attendant upon the king's
service: -
Matilda, late the wife of Robert Tyliol. '
[CPR 16 Edw. II, p. 174, mem. 23[14]]

exchanged her share of Kirby Knowle, co. Yorks to sister Avice
for an additional share of Ellerton-on-Derwent, co. Yorks[1],
dated 12 March 1324/25:
' Gift: Matilda widow of Sir Robert de Tilliol to Sir Robert le
Constable of Holdernesse and his wife Dame Avice property
all her share of the manor of Kirby-underknoll, With 1
messuage, 1 bovate, 46½ ac. 1r. 10 p., and rents of 4s. 8¾d.
and 1 lb. of pepper in Eskryk (Reserving a fourth part of the
manor of the town and of the advowson of Estkryk) ie the
messuage William Foster holds at will, a bovate Henry Pechard
sometime held, 31 ac. 1r. 10 p. in Prestring, 2½ ac.
in Robriding, 3 ac. in Martinriding, 3 ac., 2s. 8¾d yearly from
Matilda de Eskryk for a messuage and 2 bovates, and 2s. and
1 lb. pepper yearly from Emma de Sellis for a messuage and 2
bovates.
.......
In exchange for all their property in the manor of Ellerton
super Derwent
Witn. Sir William de Thweng or Tweng, John de Sutton,
William de la Tower, Thomas de Pyke, Walter de Fauconbridge,
Roger de la Hay. Given at Halsham in Holdernesse, St.
Gregory 1324. ' - A2A, East Riding of Yorkshire Archives and
Records Service: Chichester-Constable Family
[DDCC/111 - DDCC/135], DDCC/135/51[13]

she rendered homage to the Archbishop of York for certain lands
in Swine:
' 1325, Aug. 29. In manerio domini apud Burton prope
Beverlacum, domina Matilda Tyliol fecit domino Willelmo,
etc., hom. et juravit sibi fid. pro terris et ten. quae
clamat tenere de eo in Swyna; et habet diem ad certificandum
dictum dominum quae ten. et terras tenet de eo, et per quae
servitia, citra festum Sancti Michaelis proximo futurum.
Ibid. ' [Kirkby's Inquest, p. 416[15]]

" scon bacheler Robert de Hilton ", wrote a letter to
Archbishop William de Melton ca Dec 1325, thanking him for
meeting his mother, "ma dame ma mere" at his request,
concerning the manor of Swine. [ ' A Letter from Robert
de Hilton to Archbishop Melton concerning the manor of
Swine ' [Reg. archiep. Melton, inter ff. 566, 567]',
Kirkby's Inquest, p. 440. The notes to this letter state,
' A copy of this letter is entered in Melton's Register
(fol. 566b) among documents dated in December, 1325.
Matilda, daughter and coheiress of Sir Roger de Lascelles,
and widow of Sir William de Hilton and Sir Robert de
Tiliol (Poulson's Holderness, ii., 197). On Aug. 29th,
1325, Matilda Tyliol did homage to archbishop Melton "pro
terris et ten. quae clamat tenere de eo in Swyna" (Kirkby's
Inquest, page 416).' ][15]


held Swine in dower - 'Robertus Tyliol' was lord of Swine
[Kirkby's Inquest, p. 305 -
'Nomina Villarum' for Yorkshire, 9 Edw. II (1316)[15]]

she m. 1stly William de Hilton,
2ndly Robert de Tiliol[1]

cf. Wilson, The Tilliols (The Ancestor IV:93-94)[6].1

Family 1

William de Hilton

Family 2

Sir Robert de Tiliol b. b 1266, d. 1321
Child

Citations

  1. [S2153] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 1 May 2007: "Re: CP Addition: Elizabeth de Tiliol, wife of Anthony,     Lord Lucy (d. 1343)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 1 May 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 1 May 2007."

Serota de Lancaster1

F, #68741
FatherGilbert Fitz Roger Fitz Reinfrid 4th Baron Kendal2 d. b 13 Jun 1220
MotherHawise (Helwise) de Lancaster Baroness Kendal2 d. a Sep 1226
Last Edited9 Mar 2020
     Serota de Lancaster married Alan de Multon, son of Sir Thomas de Multon and Sarah de Flete; his 1st wife.1

Family

Alan de Multon d. a 1249

Citations

  1. [S2153] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 1 May 2007: "Re: CP Addition: Elizabeth de Tiliol, wife of Anthony,     Lord Lucy (d. 1343)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 1 May 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 1 May 2007."
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntlo.htm#GilbertFitzRogerdied1220. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Nicholas de Boltby1

M, #68742, d. before 31 October 1272
Last Edited17 Nov 2007
     Nicholas de Boltby married Philippa de Tindale.1
Nicholas de Boltby died before 31 October 1272.1
     Nicholas de Boltby
Nicholas de Boltby.
died bef 31 Oct 1272.[12],[4]

of Langley, Northumberland de jure uxoris

' Nicholas de Bolteby ', had charters for a market and fair
granted 26 Jun 1267, by King Henry III, ' To be held at the
manor '. (CChR, 1257-1300, p. 77)[8]

'knight of the shire', Parliament of 1258[12]
cf. YAS XCI:19[12]

Nicholas married Philippa de Tindale.1

Citations

  1. [S2153] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 1 May 2007: "Re: CP Addition: Elizabeth de Tiliol, wife of Anthony,     Lord Lucy (d. 1343)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 1 May 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 1 May 2007."

Philippa de Tindale1

F, #68743
Last Edited17 Nov 2007
     Philippa de Tindale married Nicholas de Boltby.1

Family

Nicholas de Boltby d. b 31 Oct 1272
Child

Citations

  1. [S2153] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 1 May 2007: "Re: CP Addition: Elizabeth de Tiliol, wife of Anthony,     Lord Lucy (d. 1343)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 1 May 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 1 May 2007."

Geoffrey de Tiliol of Scaleby, Cumberland1

M, #68744, b. circa 1230, d. 1295
FatherSir Peter de Tiliol of Scaleby, Cumberland1 b. a 1192, d. b 18 Nov 1246
MotherMary (?)1
Last Edited17 Nov 2007
     Geoffrey de Tiliol of Scaleby, Cumberland was born circa 1230.1
Geoffrey de Tiliol of Scaleby, Cumberland died in 1295.1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S2153] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 1 May 2007: "Re: CP Addition: Elizabeth de Tiliol, wife of Anthony,     Lord Lucy (d. 1343)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 1 May 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 1 May 2007."

Sir Peter de Tiliol of Scaleby, Cumberland1

M, #68745, b. after 1192, d. before 18 November 1246
Last Edited17 Nov 2007
     Sir Peter de Tiliol of Scaleby, Cumberland married Mary (?)1 Sir Peter de Tiliol of Scaleby, Cumberland was born after 1192.1
Sir Peter de Tiliol of Scaleby, Cumberland died before 18 November 1246.1

Family

Mary (?)
Child

Citations

  1. [S2153] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 1 May 2007: "Re: CP Addition: Elizabeth de Tiliol, wife of Anthony,     Lord Lucy (d. 1343)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 1 May 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 1 May 2007."

Mary (?)1

F, #68746
Last Edited17 Nov 2007

Family

Sir Peter de Tiliol of Scaleby, Cumberland b. a 1192, d. b 18 Nov 1246
Child

Citations

  1. [S2153] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 1 May 2007: "Re: CP Addition: Elizabeth de Tiliol, wife of Anthony,     Lord Lucy (d. 1343)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 1 May 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 1 May 2007."

Joan (?)1

F, #68747
Last Edited10 Aug 2019
     Joan (?) married Sir William de Ros of Ingmanthorpe, son of Sir William de Ros of Helmsley and Lucy Fitz Piers of Brecknock, before 26 July 1286; hie 2nd wife.1

Family

Sir William de Ros of Ingmanthorpe b. c 1240, d. c 28 May 1310
Child

Citations

  1. [S2154] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 5 May 2007: "Sir John de Eyville (d. 1325) and his wife Margaret: a conjecture"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 5 May 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 5 May 2007."

Sir William fitz William Knt., of Sprotborough1,2

M, #68748, d. 12 January 1474
FatherSir John (the Elder) FitzWilliam of Sprotborough1
MotherMargaret Clarell1 b. c 1410
Last Edited27 Jul 2008
     Sir William fitz William Knt., of Sprotborough married Elizabeth Chaworth, daughter of Sir Thomas Chaworth Knt., of Wiverton, Nottinghamshire and Isabel Aylesbury.3,1
Sir William fitz William Knt., of Sprotborough died on 12 January 1474.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William FitzWilliam: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00466064&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Braybrooke 10: p. 148. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Chaworth: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00466065&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William FitzWilliam: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00466066&tree=LEO

Elizabeth Chaworth1

F, #68749
FatherSir Thomas Chaworth Knt., of Wiverton, Nottinghamshire2 b. c 1375, d. bt 10 Feb 1458 - 1459
MotherIsabel Aylesbury2 b. 1402, d. 1458
Last Edited27 Jul 2008

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Chaworth: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00466065&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Braybrooke 10: p. 148. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William FitzWilliam: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00466064&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William FitzWilliam: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00466066&tree=LEO

Sir William fitz William of Sprotborough1

M, #68750, d. 1494
FatherSir William fitz William Knt., of Sprotborough1 d. 12 Jan 1474
MotherElizabeth Chaworth1
Last Edited24 Aug 2008
     Sir William fitz William of Sprotborough married Elizabeth Conyers, daughter of Sir John Conyers Knt., KG, of Hornby, Yorks and Margery Darcy.2,1,3
Sir William fitz William of Sprotborough died in 1494.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William FitzWilliam: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00466066&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Conyers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00466067&tree=LEO
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Conyers 13: p. 227. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dorothy FitzWilliam: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00466068&tree=LEO

Elizabeth Conyers1,2

F, #68751
FatherSir John Conyers Knt., KG, of Hornby, Yorks2 b. c 1415, d. 14 Mar 1489/90
MotherMargery Darcy2 b. 1 Sep 1418, d. bt 20 Mar 1468 - 20 Apr 1469
Last Edited24 Aug 2008

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Conyers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00466067&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Conyers 13: p. 227. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William FitzWilliam: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00466066&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dorothy FitzWilliam: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00466068&tree=LEO

Dorothy fitz William1

F, #68752
FatherSir William fitz William of Sprotborough1 d. 1494
MotherElizabeth Conyers1
Last Edited17 Nov 2007
     Dorothy fitz William married Sir William Copley of Batley and Sprotborough, son of John Copley Esq. and Agnes Pigot, before 21 January 1521.1,2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dorothy FitzWilliam: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00466068&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William Copley, of Batley and Sprotborough: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198944&tree=LEO

Constance Vere1

F, #68753, d. 16 May 1499
FatherRichard Vere of Thrapston1
MotherIsabella Green1
Last Edited3 Jan 2009
     Constance Vere married John Boteler Esq., of Watton Woodhall, Hertfordshire, etc., son of Phillip Boteler Gent., of Watton Woodhall, Hertfordshire and Isabel Willoughby, after 1469; his 2nd wife.1
Constance Vere died on 16 May 1499 at Astwell, England.1

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Lovett 13: pp. 466-467. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Sir Adam de Reresby Knt., of Thribergh, Yorkshire1,2

M, #68754
Last Edited18 Oct 2008
     Sir Adam de Reresby Knt., of Thribergh, Yorkshire
van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 519.1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adam de Reresby: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00446388&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Fitz William 7: p. 331. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Agnes de Graham1

F, #68755
FatherSir Nicholas de Graham laird of Dalkeith and Abercorn1 d. b 14 Jun 1306
MotherMary (?) of Strathearn, Baroness of Muschamp1 b. b 20 Mar 1249, d. 1322
Last Edited18 Nov 2007
     Agnes de Graham married John de Monfode.1

Family

John de Monfode

Citations

  1. [S2155] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 9 June 2007: "Graham of Dalkeith: their Comyn ancestry"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 June 2007, Dorothy FitzWilliam: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00466068&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 9 June 2007."

Idonea de Graham1

F, #68757
FatherSir Henry de Graham laird of Dalkeith, lord of Hutton1 d. a 5 Feb 1283
Mother(?) de Avenel heiress of Abercorn and Eskdale1
Last Edited18 Nov 2007
     Idonea de Graham married Adam de Swinburn.1

Family

Adam de Swinburn

Citations

  1. [S2155] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 9 June 2007: "Graham of Dalkeith: their Comyn ancestry"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 June 2007, Dorothy FitzWilliam: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00466068&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 9 June 2007."

Christiana? 'filia Ada' (?)1,2

F, #68759
FatherSir Adam Fitz Gilbert1,2
MotherIdonea Comyn1
ReferenceGAV24
Last Edited27 Aug 2019

Citations

  1. [S2155] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 9 June 2007: "Graham of Dalkeith: their Comyn ancestry"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 June 2007, Dorothy FitzWilliam: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00466068&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 9 June 2007."
  2. [S2159] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #2 11 June 2007: "Re: Ancestry of Sir John de Graham of Dalkeith (d. 1337)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/BE4ZK_aw3OQ/m/2SSdMxxxDgUJ) to e-mail address, 11 June 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #2 11 June 2007."

Gilbert fitz Richer of Tarbolton1,2

M, #68760
FatherRicher de Boyville of Levinton3
ReferenceGAV26
Last Edited27 Aug 2019
     Gilbert fitz Richer of Tarbolton married Juliana de Soulis; her 2nd husband per Ravilious 11 June 2007.1,4
     GAV-26.

Gilbert fitz Richer of Tarbolton
per Ravilious: Gilbert fitz Richer of Tarbolton
G. W. S. Barrow wrote, ' The fee of Gilbert son of Richer, t. Walter I. Gilbert was a witness to Malcolm IV's charter granting the stewardship and the Renfrewshire lands to Walter I. He was almost certainly a tenant-in-chief of the king in his own right and witnessed numerous royal charters in the earlier years of king Wiliam the Lion. For the family, see Barrow, Anglo-Norman Era in Scottish History (1980).
When Walter gave lands in Mauchline to Melrose Abbey, his charter referred to a perambulation between the land of Mauchline and the land of Gilbert, son of Richer, and it is evident that Gilbert's land lay west of Mauchline. Moreover, Alan the Stewart granted Tarbolton to Adam son of Gilbert to be held for one knight's service, and although Adam is not said to be the son of Gilbert, son of Richer, this is made very probable by the fact that Adam was tenant of Hutton in Dryfesdale under Adam, son of Adam, son of Richer. ' [Barrow, The Kingdom of the Scots, pp. 321-2[45]]
Gilbert married Juliana de Soulis.4

Citations

  1. [S2155] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 9 June 2007: "Graham of Dalkeith: their Comyn ancestry"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 June 2007, Dorothy FitzWilliam: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00466068&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 9 June 2007."
  2. [S2158] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 11 June 2007: "Ancestry of Sir John de Graham of Dalkeith (d. 1337)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 11 June 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 11 June 2007."
  3. [S2156] Alex Maxwell Findlater, "Findlater email 9 June 2007: "Re: Graham of Dalkeith: their Comyn ancestry"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 June 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Findlater email 9 June 2007."
  4. [S2180] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #3 11 June 2007: "Re: Ancestry of Sir John de Graham of Dalkeith (d. 1337)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/soc.genealogy.medieval/Earl$20of$20Strathearn|sort:date/soc.genealogy.medieval/BE4ZK_aw3OQ/WuF0w4-ABGEJ) to e-mail address, 11 June 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #3 11 June 2007."