Isabel de Nimes1

F, #94382
Last Edited12 Apr 2020
     Isabel de Nimes married Ramon Berenguer I "el Viejo" (?) conde de Barcelona, son of Berenguer Ramón I "el Curvo" (?) Conde de Barcelona and Sancha Sánchez de Lara de Castile, on 14 November 1039 at St. Cucuphat, Barcelona, Provinicia de Barcelona, Cateluna, Spain (now);
His 1st wife.1,2,3
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "m firstly (St Cucuphat, Barcelona 14 Nov 1039) ISABELLE, daughter of --- & his wife Ermengarde --- ([1020/28]-29 Jun 1050). A charter dated 14 Nov 1039 records the marriage of Ramon Berenguer and "Elisabet…comitissa" at "ecclesia beati Cucuphati"[327]. Her birth date is estimated on the assumption that she was an adolescent at the time of the marriage, but bearing in mind that she bore two children before 1045. The name of her father is not known, although she is named as daughter of "Ermengardis femina" in several charters[328]. Bofarell highlights Raymond Bernard "Trencavel" Vicomte d´Albi et de Nîmes and a local Catalan noble "Guillelmo Bernardo de Odena" as possible fathers, both of whose wives were named Ermengarde[329]. In the case of the former, the chronology of the family of the Vicomtes d´Albi et de Nîmes appears incompatible with the birth date estimated for Isabelle as shown above. "Raimundus Berengarii…comes et marchisus…cum coniuge mea…Helisabeth" donated property "in comitatu Barchinonense, in Vallense…Riels [et] Fallo" to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated 25 Apr 1031[330], although this date is presumably incorrect considering the probable birth date of Ramon Berenguer I shown above. She was known as ELISABET in Catalonia. A charter dated 1050 records that "Raymundum comitem Barchinonensem et Elisabet comitssa" promised the town of Tarragona "cum ipso comitatu Terraconensis" to "Berengarium vicecomitem Narbone"[331]. The necrology of Santa Maria de Ripoll records the death "III Kal Jul" of "Elisabeth comitissa"[332]. Ramon Berenguer donated property to Santa Maria de Ripoll, for the soul of "uxoris mee quondam Elisabeth comitissæ", by charter dated 28 Sep 1050[333].
     "Ramon Berenguer [I] & his first wife had three children."
Med Lands cites:
[327] Bofarull y Mascaró (1836) Tomo II, p. 8, citing Real Archivo, n. 34 de la colección de documentos con fecha de Conde Ramon Berenguer, antes armario de Dotes Reales, saco A, n. 15.
[328] Bofarull y Mascaró (1836) Tomo II, p. 8, citing Real Archivo, n. 76, 86 y otros muchos de la colección de documentos sin fecha de Conde Ramon Berenguer.
[329] Bofarull y Mascaró (1836) Tomo II, p. 9.
[330] Marseille Saint-Victor II, Appendix, 1044, p. 511.
[331] Bofarull y Mascaró (1836) Tomo II, p. 17, citing Real Archivo, colección sin fecha del Conde Ramon Berenguer n. 207, antes armario de Tarragona, saco A, n. 15.
[332] Bofarull y Mascaró (1836) Tomo II, p. 23.
[333] Bofarull y Mascaró (1836) Tomo II, p. 23.3


Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:69.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabel de Nimes: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00439170&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ramon Berenguer I 'el Viejo': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029089&tree=LEO
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CATALAN%20NOBILITY.htm#RamonBerenguerIdied1076B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Blanca (?)1

F, #94383
Last Edited12 Apr 2020
     Blanca (?) married Ramon Berenguer I "el Viejo" (?) conde de Barcelona, son of Berenguer Ramón I "el Curvo" (?) Conde de Barcelona and Sancha Sánchez de Lara de Castile, before 16 March 1051;
His 2nd wife.2,3,4 Blanca (?) and Ramon Berenguer I "el Viejo" (?) conde de Barcelona were divorced in 1052; Genealogics says "discard"; Med Lands says "repudiated.3,4
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "m secondly (before 26 Mar 1051, repudiated 1052) BLANCA, daughter of --- (-after 12 Nov 1076). Comte Ramon Berenguer "et Bancha comitissa uxor eius" granted property to a vassal by charter dated 26 Mar 1051[334]. She is also named in a charter dated 1056 under which Comtesa Ermesindis undertook, on behalf of Comte Ramon Berenguer and his wife Almodis, to obtain the lifting of the excommunication which Pope Victor II had pronounced "pro Blancha femina contra...predictum comitem et…comitessam Almodem"[335]. The testament of Comte Ramon Berenguer refers to, but does not name, a wife to whom the testator bequeathed "quatuor milia mancusos"[336]. It is unlikely that this bequest relates to a fourth wife, otherwise unrecorded, as presumably a surviving wife would have been named in the document. It therefore appears probable that the bequest was intended for Blanca who was still alive when the testament was written. Bofarull suggests that the testament should be interpreted as indicating that Ramon Berenguer married Blanca for a second time before he died[337], but the problem of the absence of her name from the document remains."
Med Lands cites:
[334] Bofarull y Mascaró (1836) Tomo II, p. 30, citing Real Archivo, n. 122 de la colección con fecha de Conde Ramon Berenguer, antes armario de Manresa, saco L. n. 522, y está duplicada.
[335] Bofarull y Mascaró (1836) Tomo II, p. 31.
[336] Bofarull y Mascaró (1836) Tomo II, p. 30, citing Real Archivo, n. 122 de la colección con fecha de Conde Ramon Berenguer, antes armario de Manresa, saco L. n. 522, y está duplicada.
[337] Bofarull y Mascaró (1836) Tomo II, p. 102.4


Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:69.2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Blance: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140023&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Blanca: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140023&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ramon Berenguer I 'el Viejo': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029089&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CATALAN%20NOBILITY.htm#RamonBerenguerIdied1076B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Amelie de La Marche1

F, #94384, d. after 1140
FatherAdalbert/Aldebert II (?) Comte de La Marche1 b. c 1032, d. 1088
MotherPonce/Poncie/Poncia (?)1 d. a 1080
Last Edited12 Apr 2020
     Amelie de La Marche married Eschivat de Chabanais Seigneur de Chabanais et de Confolens, son of Jourdain VI de Chabanais;
Her 2nd husband.2,1
Amelie de La Marche died after 1140.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "[AMELIE (-after 1140). A manuscript genealogy records that “Eschivat”, son of “Jordanum”, son of “Jordanus Exbarrel, qui perrexit Jerosolymis”, married “filia comitissæ Marchiæ”[61]. The “comitissæ Marchiæ” is not identified. The probable chronology of the Chabanais family suggests that she was Ponce, wife of Audebert [II] Comte de la Marche. It is not clear from the document whether Eschivat’s wife was the daughter of “comitissæ Marchiæ” by her marriage to the comte de la Marche or by another otherwise unrecorded earlier or later marriage. However, the name Amélie strongly suggests that she was descended from the wife of Bernard Comte de la Marche who bore the same name. "Jourdain de Chabanais et Amélie sa femme" donated "l’église de Saint-Pierre de Cellefrouin" to the abbey of Charroux by undated charter, dated to the early 12th century[62]. A charter dated to after 1140 records an agreement between "Amelia de Cabaniaco et Matildis filia mea" and Saint-Pierre d’Angoulême regarding "manso de Sorouma", for the souls of "virorum nostrorum…Jordani de Cabaniaco et Ademari de Rupe et Maentiæ"[63].
     "m firstly ---. This possible first marriage is indicated by the Historia Pontificum et Comitum Engolismensis which records that "castellum Chabanes et Confolent" was claimed by “Ademaro domino Rupis-Folcaudi...ex parte uxoris suæ” when it was granted by Vu[lgrin d’Angoulême to “Roberto de Burgundio, [Aimerico de] Rancone” together with “filia Jordani Eschivati” who had died without male heirs[64]. The passage indicates that the wife of Aimery de la Rochefoucauld was not the daughter of Eschivat de Chabanais. However, the wife of Aimery de la Rochefoucauld was clearly Amélie’s daughter, as shown by the charter dated to after 1140 which is quoted above. The tentative conclusion is that Aimery’s wife must have been the daughter of Eschivat’s wife by an earlier marriage.]
     "m [secondly] ESCHIVAT de Chabanais, son of JOURDAIN [VI] de Chabanais & his wife --- (-bur Grenord).]"
Med Lands cites:
[61] Gallia Christiana, Tome II, Instrumenta Ecclesiæ Lemovicensis, XXXIX, col. 194.
[62] Charroux, p. 117 footnote 1.
[63] Nanglard, J. (ed.) (1900) Cartulaire de l'église d'Angoulême (Angoulême) (“Angoulême”) 76, p. 94.
[64] Castaigne, J. F. E. (ed.) (1853) Rerum Engolismensium Scriptores (Angoulême), Historia Pontificum et Comitum Engolismensis, XXXV, p. 45.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ANGOULEME.htm#AmelieMEschivatChabanais. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AQUITAINE%20NOBILITY.htm#EschivatChabanaisMAmelie

Jourdain VI de Chabanais1

M, #94385
FatherJourdain V de Chabanais Seigneur de Chabanais1 d. c 1099
Last Edited12 Apr 2020
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "JOURDAIN [VI] de Chabanais . “Jordanus filius Jordani filii Ainardi” donated property to Lesterp abbey, naming “atavus meus Jordanus filius Jordani et uxoris eius Diæ”, by undated charter[31]. A manuscript genealogy names “Jordanum qui hoc donum fecit” as the son of “Jordanus Exbarrel, qui perrexit Jerosolymis”[32].
     "m ---. The name of Jourdain’s wife is not known. "
Med Lands cites:
[31] Gallia Christiana, Tome II, Instrumenta Ecclesiæ Lemovicensis, XXXIX, col. 195.
[32] Gallia Christiana, Tome II, Instrumenta Ecclesiæ Lemovicensis, XXXIX, col. 194.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AQUITAINE%20NOBILITY.htm#JourdainVChabanaisdied1099B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Jourdain V de Chabanais Seigneur de Chabanais1

M, #94386, d. circa 1099
FatherAinard/Aymar de Chabanais seigneur de Chabanais1,2 b. c 1010, d. 1074
MotherBarrelde (?) d'Angouleme2
Last Edited12 Apr 2020
     Jourdain V de Chabanais Seigneur de Chabanais died circa 1099 at Palestine.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "JOURDAIN [V] de Chabanais, son of AINARD de Chabanais & his wife --- d’Angoulême (-in Palestine 1099 or after). A manuscript genealogy names “Jordanus Exbarrel, qui perrexit Jerosolymis” as the son of “Ainardum”[28]. "Iordanus Cabanensis" donated "ecclesiam…Petusiam…in…S. Petri honore fundatam" to Bordeaux Saint-Pierre, with the consent of "meus filius Iordanus", by undated charter, subscribed by "…Aimerici de Roca Cauardi", followed by a charter dated 1089 under which "Iordanus cum filio meo eodem nomine dicto" noted that "Engolismorum consule avunculo meo Fulcone" agreed to reconstruct "Barbastam"[29]. Courlieu records that "Iourdan seigneur de Chabanais" joined the contingent of Godefroi de Boulogne on the First Crusade and died while overseas, but does not cite the corresponding primary sources[30]. No reference has yet been found in the chronicles of the crusades to Jourdain.
     "m firstly ---. The name of Jourdain’s first wife is not known.
     "m secondly ---. The name of Jourdain’s second wife is not known. "
Med Lands cites:
[28] Gallia Christiana, Tome II, Instrumenta Ecclesiæ Lemovicensis, XXXIX, col. 194.
[29] Besly (1647), p. 407.
[30] Corlieu (1576/1846/2002), Livre II -1ère partie, Les Taillefer, Chap. IX.1
He was
Crusader - Per Med Lands: "Courlieu records that "Iourdan seigneur de Chabanais" joined the contingent of Godefroi de Boulogne on the First Crusade and died while overseas" circa 1099.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AQUITAINE%20NOBILITY.htm#JourdainVChabanaisdied1099B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AQUITAINE%20NOBILITY.htm#AdemarChabanaisMAngouleme

Willa/Guilla di Bonifazio1

F, #94387
Father(?) di Bonifazio Marquis de Spolète1
ReferenceGAV29
Last Edited15 Apr 2020
     Willa/Guilla di Bonifazio married Oberto Obizzo I (?) Marchese in the Eastern March, Conte di Luni, son of Adalberto I (?) Marchese in the Marca di Milano;
His 1st wife.1,2
     ; Per Genealogy.EU: "Oberto Obizzo I, +before 997, Marques in the Oriental Mark 962, Count of Luni 951; 1m: Willa or Guilla, dau.of Bonifacio II Duke of Spoleto by Vaudré of Bourgogne; 2m: N, a sister of Ugo Marques of Toscana, heiress of Este and Montagnana."2

GAV-29.

Citations

  1. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Oberto Ier: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberto_Ier. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Malaspina 1 page (Malaspina family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/italy/malaspina1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Willa di Camerino: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020667&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%20900-1100.htm#ObertoIILunidiedafter1013B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%201100-1400.htm#AlbertoObertenghidied1024B
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%20900-1100.htm#BertaLuniMGuibertoParma
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Willa di Camerino: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020667&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Oberto I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020666&tree=LEO
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Oberto II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020670&tree=LEO

(?) di Bonifazio Marquis de Spolète1

M, #94388
ReferenceGAV30
Last Edited15 Apr 2020
     GAV-30.

Citations

  1. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Oberto Ier: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberto_Ier. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).

NN d'Este Heiress of Este and Montagnana1

F, #94389
FatherHubert (?) Markgraf of Tuscany, Duke of Spoleto, Marquis de Camerino1 b. bt 920 - 924, d. bt 967 - 970
Last Edited13 Apr 2020
     NN d'Este Heiress of Este and Montagnana married Oberto Obizzo I (?) Marchese in the Eastern March, Conte di Luni, son of Adalberto I (?) Marchese in the Marca di Milano;
His 2nd wife.1
     ; Per Genealogy.EU: "Oberto Obizzo I, +before 997, Marques in the Oriental Mark 962, Count of Luni 951; 1m: Willa or Guilla, dau.of Bonifacio II Duke of Spoleto by Vaudré of Bourgogne; 2m: N, a sister of Ugo Marques of Toscana, heiress of Este and Montagnana."1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Malaspina 1 page (Malaspina family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/italy/malaspina1.html

Alberto di Luni1

M, #94390, d. 1024
FatherOberto Obizzo I (?) Marchese in the Eastern March, Conte di Luni1 b. c 920, d. 15 Oct 975
MotherWilla/Guilla di Bonifazio1
Last Edited13 Apr 2020
     Alberto di Luni died in 1024.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "ALBERTO, son of Marchese OBERTO OBIZZO [I] Conte di Luni & his [first/second] wife --- (-[1024]).
     "m ---. The name of Alberto's wife is not known."1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%201100-1400.htm#AlbertoObertenghidied1024B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%201100-1400.htm#AlbertoRufodiedbefore1094MGiudittaParma

Alberto 'Rufo' (?)1

M, #94391, d. before 1094
FatherAlberto di Luni1 d. 1024
Last Edited13 Apr 2020
     Alberto 'Rufo' (?) married Giuditta di Parma.2
Alberto 'Rufo' (?) died before 1094.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "ALBERTO detto Rufo (-before 1094). "Albertus marchio filius quondam Alberti itemque marchionis et Jolicta comitissa jugalibus, filia Uberti comitis de comitatu Parmæ" donated property to the monastery of St Venerio, for the souls of "genitore meo Alberto marchio et Ugone germano meo", by charter dated 1050, signed by "domni Alberti Rufi et Julicte comitisse jugalibus"[493]. "Albertus marchio qui dicor Ruffus filius quondam itemque Alberti marchionis, qui…ex natione mea lege vivere Longobardorum" donated property to the church of Luni, held by "pater meus et Guidonis marchionis", for the souls of "patris et fratris mei Ugone", by charter dated 1085[494].
     "m GIUDITTA di Parma, daughter of OBERTO Conte di Parma & his wife --- (-after 1094). "Albertus marchio filius quondam Alberti itemque marchionis et Jolicta comitissa jugalibus, filia Uberti comitis de comitatu Parmæ" donated property to the monastery of St Venerio, for the souls of "genitore meo Alberto marchio et Ugone germano meo", by charter dated 1050, signed by "domni Alberti Rufi et Julicte comitisse jugalibus"[495]. "Julitta comitissa atque Obertus marchio, mater et filius" donated property to the monastery of St Venerio, for the souls of "Alberti marchionis quondam viri…", by charter dated 1094[496]."
Med Lands cites:
[493] Muratori (Este), Parte I, p. 230.
[494] Muratori (Este), Parte I, p. 232.
[495] Muratori (Este), Parte I, p. 230.
[496] Muratori (Este), Parte I, p. 234.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%201100-1400.htm#AlbertoRufodiedbefore1094MGiudittaParma. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%20900-1100.htm#GiudittaParmadiedafter1094

Giuditta di Parma1

F, #94392, d. after 1094
Last Edited13 Apr 2020
     Giuditta di Parma married Alberto 'Rufo' (?), son of Alberto di Luni.1
Giuditta di Parma died after 1094.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "GIUDITTA (-after 1094). "Albertus marchio filius quondam Alberti itemque marchionis et Jolicta comitissa jugalibus, filia Uberti comitis de comitatu Parmæ" donated property to the monastery of St Venerio, for the souls of "genitore meo Alberto marchio et Ugone germano meo", by charter dated 1050, signed by "domni Alberti Rufi et Julicte comitisse jugalibus"[38]. "Julitta comitissa atque Obertus marchio, mater et filius" donated property to the monastery of St Venerio, for the souls of "Alberti marchionis quondam viri…", by charter dated 1094[39].
     "m ALBERTO detto Rufo, son of ALBERTO Marchese & his wife --- (-before 1094)."
Med Lands cites:
[38] Muratori, L. A. (1717) Delle Antichità Estensi ed Italiane, Parte I (Modena) ("Muratori (Este)"), Parte I, p. 230.
[39] Muratori (Este), Parte I, p. 234.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%20900-1100.htm#GiudittaParmadiedafter1094. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%201100-1400.htm#AlbertoRufodiedbefore1094MGiudittaParma

Berta di Luni1

F, #94393
FatherOberto Obizzo I (?) Marchese in the Eastern March, Conte di Luni1 b. c 920, d. 15 Oct 975
MotherWilla/Guilla di Bonifazio1
Last Edited13 Apr 2020
     Berta di Luni married Oberto di Parma Conte di Parma.2,1
     ; Per Med Lands: "BERTA . m OBERTO di Parma, son of GUIBERTO di Parma & his wife --- (-1111)."3

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%20900-1100.htm#BertaLuniMGuibertoParma. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%20900-1100.htm#GuibertoParmaMLuni
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%20900-1100.htm#_Toc442430260

Oberto di Parma Conte di Parma1

M, #94394, d. 1111
Last Edited13 Apr 2020
     Oberto di Parma Conte di Parma married Berta di Luni, daughter of Oberto Obizzo I (?) Marchese in the Eastern March, Conte di Luni and Willa/Guilla di Bonifazio.1,2
Oberto di Parma Conte di Parma died in 1111.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "OBERTO di Parma (-1111). Boso Archbishop of Parma and "Albertus Comes et Ubertus frater eius, Comes quoque Walfredus et Berta uxor eius et Ermengarda neptis eorum, Matilda…coniux bone memorie Ugonis comitis et filii eorum" donated property to the monastery of San Prospero by charter dated 1098, signed by "Berta coniux Gualfredi, Albertus filius eius"[45]. Conte di Parma. Albert of Aix names "Albertus comes…de Blandraz, Wido frater ipsius miles…Hugo de Montbeel, Otto filius sororis prædicti Alberti cognomine Altaspata, Wibertus comes civitatis Parmæ" as of the leaders of the Lombard contingent which left for Palestine in Sep 1100 as the second wave of the First Crusade in Sep, dated to 1100[46].
     "m BERTA di Luni, daughter of Marchese OBERTO OBIZZO [I] Conte di Luni & his wife ---."
Med Lands cites:
[45] Muratori, L. A. (1773) Antiquitates Italicæ Medii ævi, Tome I, p. 712.
[46] RHC, Historiens occidentaux, Tome IV (Paris, 1879), Alberti Aquensis Historia Hierosolymitana ("Albert of Aix (RHC)"), Liber VIII, Cap. I, p. 559.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%20900-1100.htm#GuibertoParmaMLuni. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%20900-1100.htm#BertaLuniMGuibertoParma

Marchese Ugo d'Este1

M, #94395, d. after 26 January 1029
FatherMarchese Oberto II d'Este Conte di Luni, Tortona, Genova and Milano1,2 b. c 950, d. c 1017
MotherRailinda (?) of Cuomo1
Last Edited1 Jun 2020
     Marchese Ugo d'Este died after 26 January 1029.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "UGO (-26 Jan, after 1029). The Gesta Mediolanensium names (in order) "Ugonem, Azonem, Adelbertum et Obizonem" as four Italian marchesi, supporters of Ardoini d´Ivrea, captured by forces of Emperor Heinrich II, the date "1022" being inserted in the margin by the editor[334]. "Azo et Ugo germanis et filii Uberti marchio" bought property from "Domninus diaconus…in burgo sancti Domnini et filius quondam Undulfi de loco Variano" by charter dated 1013[335]. A charter dated May 1013 records a decision "in iudicio…domnus Azo et Ugo germani marchiones et Thodello commes istius comitatus Pataviensis" relating to the ownership of property in Petriolo, signed by "Adelbertus qui Azo…Ugo marchio…"[336]. "Gerardus diaconus filius quondam Genesie" sold certain castles to "Ugo marchio filius bone memorie Oberto qui fuit item marchio" by charter dated 1029[337]. "Ugo marchio filius bo. mem. Oberti item marchio, ex genere Longobardorum" donated "decima de curte Portalbero" to Piacenza cathedral by charter dated 1029[338]. The necrology of Piacenza records the death "VII Kal Feb" of "Ugo marchio" and his donations[339]. "Rodulphus Normanus ex Francorum genere" donated property to the monastery of Vangadizza, for the soul of "Ugonis marchionis", by charter dated 1040[340]."
Med Lands cites:
[334] Arnulfi Gesta, Archiepiscoporum Mediolanensium I.18, MGH SS VIII, p. 11, footnote 64 specifying that they were sons of "Oberti [II] march. Mediolanensis, Astensium progenitoris".
[335] Muratori (Este), Parte I, p. 123.
[336] Codice Diplomatico Padovano, 92, p. 123.
[337] Muratori (Este), Parte I, p. 90.
[338] Muratori (Este), Parte I, p. 91.
[339] Muratori (Este), Parte I, p. 96.
[340] Muratori (Este), Parte I, p. 95.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%20900-1100.htm#ObertoIILunidiedafter1013B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S4758] Genealogies delle Famiglie Nobili Italiane, online <http://www.sardimpex.com/>, http://www.sardimpex.com/Estensi/Obertenghi.asp. Hereinafter cited as Shamà: Genealogie delle Famiglie Nobili Italiane.

Marchese Adalberto IV d'Este1

M, #94396, d. after 1031
FatherMarchese Oberto II d'Este Conte di Luni, Tortona, Genova and Milano1 b. c 950, d. c 1017
MotherRailinda (?) of Cuomo1
Last Edited13 Apr 2020
     Marchese Adalberto IV d'Este married Adelasia (?)1
Marchese Adalberto IV d'Este died after 1031.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "ADALBERTO [IV] (-after 1031). The Gesta Mediolanensium names (in order) "Ugonem, Azonem, Adelbertum et Obizonem" as four Italian marchesi, supporters of Ardoini d´Ivrea, captured by forces of Emperor Heinrich II, the date "1022" being inserted in the margin by the editor[342]. "Oldericus Maginfredus marchio f. quondam…Maginfredi marchionis et Berta comitissa jugales filia q. Obberti marchionis" sold property "in comitatu Parmensi, Placensiensi, Ticinensi, Tortonensi, Vercellensi, Aquensi, Astensi, Eporediensi, Torinensi, Oradiensi, Albensi, Avigenensi, Aberganensi, Vigintimiliensi" to "Sigifredo presbitero filio q. Adelgisi", with "notitia propinquorum parentum suorum, id est Adalberti marchionis germani sui et Alberti infantis nepotis sui", by charter dated 6 Jun 1021[343]. His parentage is confirmed by a charter dated 1029 under which "Alricus…Astensis Ecclesiæ Episcopus et Odelricus qui et Magenfridus…Marchio germanus et filii bone memorie itemque Magnifredi…Marchionis, et Berta…Comitissa, jugales, filia quondam Autberti…Marchionis" founded the monastery of Segusini Sancti Justi, which names "Adelberti Marchionis…Bertæ Comitissæ fratris"[344]. "Odelricus qui et Manfredus marchio f. quondam Manfredi marchionis et Berta comitissa jugales f. quondam Autberti marchionis" granted privileges "in comitatibus Taurinensi, Vercellensi, Iporiensi, Astensi, Albensi, Albiganensi, Vigintimiliensi, Parmensi, Placentinensi, Ticinensi, Aquensi" to the monastery of "S. Mariæ et Ss. Solutoris, Adventoris et Octavii braidam juxta Palatium" by charter dated 1031, signed by "Maginfredi march., Adalberti et Opizzoni utriusque marchionis qui Bertæ germane…Cuniberti et Wilelmi seu marchionis…"[345]. same person as…? ADALBERTO (-after 10 Jun 1033). Marchese. "Adalbertus marchio filius bonæ memoriæ Otberti itemque Marchio et Adeleyda jugalibus filia quondam Bosoni comitis quæ professa sum ex natione mea lege vivere Alamannorum, sed nunc pro ipso viro meo lege vivere…Longobardorum" founded the monastery of Santa Maria Castilione, in the presence of "domni Ugonis marchionis et comitis…comitatus Terdonensis", by charter dated 10 Jun 1033[346].
     "m ADELASIA, daughter of BOSO & his wife --- (-after 10 Jun 1033). "Adalbertus marchio filius bonæ memoriæ Otberti itemque Marchio et Adeleyda jugalibus filia quondam Bosoni comitis quæ professa sum ex natione mea lege vivere Alamannorum, sed nunc pro ipso viro meo lege vivere…Longobardorum" founded the monastery of Santa Maria Castilione, in the presence of "domni Ugonis marchionis et comitis…comitatus Terdonensis", by charter dated 10 Jun 1033[347]."
Med Lands cites:
[342] Arnulfi Gesta, Archiepiscoporum Mediolanensium I.18, MGH SS VIII, p. 11, footnote 64 specifying that they were sons of "Oberti [II] march. Mediolanensis, Astensium progenitoris".
[343] Regesta comitum Sabaudiæ, L, p. 17.
[344] Muratori, L. A. (1773) Antiquitates Italicæ Medii ævi, Tome I, p. 580.
[345] Regesta comitum Sabaudiæ, LXXXVIII, p. 31.
[346] Monumenta Aquensia, Pars II, col. 300.
[347] Monumenta Aquensia, Pars II, col. 300.1

Family

Adelasia (?)

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%20900-1100.htm#ObertoIILunidiedafter1013B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Marchese Obizzo d'Este1

M, #94398, d. after 28 January 1060
FatherMarchese Oberto II d'Este Conte di Luni, Tortona, Genova and Milano1,2 b. c 950, d. c 1017
MotherRailinda (?) of Cuomo1
Last Edited1 Jun 2020
     Marchese Obizzo d'Este married Ermengarda (?)1
Marchese Obizzo d'Este died after 28 January 1060.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "OBIZZO (-after 28 Jan 1060). The Gesta Mediolanensium names (in order) "Ugonem, Azonem, Adelbertum et Obizonem" as four Italian marchesi, supporters of Ardoini d´Ivrea, captured by forces of Emperor Heinrich II, the date "1022" being inserted in the margin by the editor[348]. "Odelricus qui et Manfredus marchio f. quondam Manfredi marchionis et Berta comitissa jugales f. quondam Autberti marchionis" granted privileges "in comitatibus Taurinensi, Vercellensi, Iporiensi, Astensi, Albensi, Albiganensi, Vigintimiliensi, Parmensi, Placentinensi, Ticinensi, Aquensi" to the monastery of "S. Mariæ et Ss. Solutoris, Adventoris et Octavii braidam juxta Palatium" by charter dated 1031, signed by "Maginfredi march., Adalberti et Opizzoni utriusque marchionis qui Bertæ germane…Cuniberti et Wilelmi seu marchionis…"[349]. "Obertus, et Opizo…marchio filius bone memorie item Otberti qui fuit similiter marchio, et Albertus filius ipsius Opizoni" donated property to S. Giovanni di Viciolo by charter dated 1053[350]. The testament of "Obertus qui et Opizo marchio filius bone memorie Oberti…marchio", dated 28 Jan 1060, donates property for the soul of "quondam Ermengarde coniugis mee" and names "Albertus filius meus"[351].
     "m ERMENGARDA, daughter of --- (-before 1060). The testament of "Obertus qui et Opizo marchio filius bone memorie Oberti…marchio", dated 28 Jan 1060, donates property for the soul of "quondam Ermengarde coniugis mee" and names "Albertus filius meus"[352]."
Med Lands cites:
[348] Arnulfi Gesta, Archiepiscoporum Mediolanensium I.18, MGH SS VIII, p. 11, footnote 64 specifying that they were sons of "Oberti [II] march. Mediolanensis, Astensium progenitoris".
[349] Regesta comitum Sabaudiæ, LXXXVIII, p. 31.
[350] Muratori (Este), Parte I, p. 247.
[351] Codice Diplomatico Padovano, 179, p. 211.
[352] Codice Diplomatico Padovano, 179, p. 211.1

Family

Ermengarda (?)

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%20900-1100.htm#ObertoIILunidiedafter1013B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S4758] Genealogies delle Famiglie Nobili Italiane, online <http://www.sardimpex.com/>, http://www.sardimpex.com/Estensi/Obertenghi.asp. Hereinafter cited as Shamà: Genealogie delle Famiglie Nobili Italiane.

Hadrad (?)1

M, #94400
ReferenceGAV34
Last Edited14 Apr 2020
     GAV-34.

; Per Med Lands:
     "HARDRAD, son of --- . m ---. The name of Hardrad's wife is not known. Hardrad & his wife had one child:
     "a) ROTHARD [Chrothard] (-after 9 Dec 771). Settipani names Rothard as son of Hardrad[659] but does not cite the primary source on which this is based."
Med Lands cites: [659] Settipani (1993), p. 254 footnote 433.1,2

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKSMaiordomi.htm#WelfIdied824A. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S4753] Christian Settipani, La Préhistoire des Capétiens, 481-987, première partie - Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (n.p.: Van Kerrebrouck, 1993), p. 254 footnote 433.. Hereinafter cited as Settipani [1993] La Préhistoire des Capétiens.

Hugo I (?) d'Alsace1

M, #94401
FatherEticho I (?) Duc d'Alsace1 b. b 662, d. 20 Feb 690
MotherBereswinde (?) of France1 b. 650
Last Edited14 Apr 2020
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "HUGO [I] . A 15th century genealogy included in the cartulary of Honau names "Adelbertum, Battichonem, Hugonem, Hechonem" as the four sons of "Adalrici ducis vel alio nomine Hettichonis"[28].
     "m ---. The name of Hugo´s wife is not known. Hugo & his wife had two children:
     "a) BODOL (-after 18 Dec 750). A 15th century genealogy included in the cartulary of Honau names "Bodolem et Bleonum" as the two sons of "Hugo"[29]. “Bodalus filius Hugone quondam” donated property to St Gregory´s monastery, for the soul of “filio meo Gherhanho”, by charter dated 18 Dec 747[30]. “Bodolus” donated property to Hohenau monastery by charter dated 12 Oct 749, which names “genitor meus…Hugo quondam”[31]. “Bodalus filius Hugone quondam” donated “prædia in Hodulfeshaim” to St Gregory´s monastery, for the soul of “filio meo Gherhanho”, by charter dated 18 Dec 750[32]. m ---. The name of Bodol´s wife is not known. Bodol & his wife had three children:
          "i) GERHAN (-before 18 Dec 747). “Bodalus filius Hugone quondam” donated property to St Gregory´s monastery, for the soul of “filio meo Gherhanho”, by charter dated 18 Dec 747[33].
          "ii) RICHWINA . A 15th century genealogy included in the cartulary of Honau names "Ruchuinam et Adalam" as the two daughters of "Bodol"[34].
          "iii) ADELA (-after 18 Aug 754). A 15th century genealogy included in the cartulary of Honau names "Ruchuinam et Adalam" as the two daughters of "Bodol"[35]. “Adala filia Bodali” donated property to Hornbach monastery by charter dated 18 Aug 754[36].
     "b) BLEON . A 15th century genealogy included in the cartulary of Honau names "Bodolem et Bleonum" as the two sons of "Hugo"[37]. m ---. The name of Bleon´s wife is not known. Bleon & his wife had one child:
          "i) HUGO [III] . A 15th century genealogy included in the cartulary of Honau names "Hug" as the son of "Bleon", adding that Hugo donated "totum quod habuit in marca Teorasheim"[38]. “Hugo” donated property to Honau monastery by charter dated 29 May 748 which names "genitor meus Bleonus"[39]."
Med Lands cites:
[28] Wilsdorf, C. ´Le "monasterium Scottorum" de Honau´, p. 17.
[29] Wilsdorf, C. ´Le "monasterium Scottorum" de Honau´, p. 18.
[30] Alsatia Diplomatica I, XV, p. 16.
[31] Alsatia Diplomatica I, XIX, p. 21.
[32] Alsatia Diplomatica I, DCLXXI, p. 473.
[33] Alsatia Diplomatica I, XV, p. 16.
[34] Wilsdorf, C. ´Le "monasterium Scottorum" de Honau´, p. 18.
[35] Wilsdorf, C. ´Le "monasterium Scottorum" de Honau´, p. 18.
[36] Alsatia Diplomatica I, XXVI, p. 33.
[37] Wilsdorf, C. ´Le "monasterium Scottorum" de Honau´, p. 18.
[38] Wilsdorf, C. ´Le "monasterium Scottorum" de Honau´, p. 18.
[39] Alsatia Diplomatica I, XVIII, p. 21.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALSACE.htm#Etichodiedafter677. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Roger I (?) Comte de Laon1

M, #94403, d. 926
Last Edited15 Apr 2020
     Roger I (?) Comte de Laon married Heilwig (?) of Friuli, daughter of Eberhard I (?) Margrave of Friuli and Gisla (?) de Francia;
Possibly her 2nd husband.1,2,3
Roger I (?) Comte de Laon died in 926.1
     ; NB: The Wikipédia (Fr.) re-imagines the lineages of the descendants of Hucbald. Wikipédia states: "La description de sa famille est issue en partie de l'identification d'Heilwis, veuve et se remariant avec Roger Ier de Laon, avec Heilwis, femme d'Hucbald. Or cette identification pose quelques problèmes chronologiques (montrant son improbabilité plutôt que son impossibilité), et une autre construction est proposée. Hucbald et Heilwide de Frioul eurent deux enfants :
** peut-être Guy, comte de Senlis
** Heilwis de Senlis, mariée à Gautier de Laon († 892), puis à Roger Ier de Laon († 926)
** un comte Hucbald, père d'Udalric, évêque d'Augsbourg de 929 à 977

There are several implications of this proposed presentation.
1. One implication is that the Heilwis who m. Roger I de Laon was Heilwis, a dau. of Hucbald de Gouy and his wife Heilwis/Heilwig de Friuli, and not Hubald's widow herself.
2. The second is to present Raoul I as either the grandson and or the son of Hucbald. It also adds two other important sons.
3. A third is to show two additional sons for Hucbald de Gouy and his wife Heilwis/Heilwig de Friuli: 1) Guy comte de Senlis and 2) (a son named) Hucbald, father of Udalric, bishop of Augsburg (d. 977).

The source of this approach are not clearly delineated in the article. I offer it here so that others can examine the article and draw their own conclusions about what the true case might be. The diagram of this presentation is attached with the most significant changes highlighted.
For the present, I have chosen to follow the earlier thinking of Raoul I as the son of Hucbald, but I am studying this alternative.4,5


; Per Racines et Histoire: "Hucbald + ~895 comte d’Ostrevant et de Senlis
     ép. Heilwise (Hedwige, Heilwig) de Frioul (fille d’Eberhard, marquis de Frioul + 16/12/866 et de Gisèle, Princesse carolingienne ;
     ép. 2 Roger 1er, comte de Laon + 926.)3"



; Per Med Lands:
     "ROGER [I] (-926). Comte de Laon. Flodoard records the death of "Rodulfus comes, filius Heilwidis" and "non multo post etiam Rotgarius, vitricus eius, comes Laudunensis pagi" in 926[4].
     "m HELVIDE, daughter of ---. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[5], she was Heilwig di Friulia, widow of Hucbald Comte [d'Ostrevant]. daughter of Eberhard Duke of the March of Friulia [Unruochingi] & his wife Gisela [Carolingian], although another table in Europäische Stammtafeln only names the wife of Comte Roger as "Helvide" but does not give her origin[6]. Her first marriage is proved by the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines which names "Hucbaldus de Hainacq" as "huius [=abbas Rodulfus] sororius"[7]."
Med Lands cites:
[4] Flodoard, 926, MGH SS III, p. 377.
[5] ES II 188B.
[6] ES III 729 B.
[7] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 893, MGH SS XXIII, p. 748.1

Family

Heilwig (?) of Friuli d. a 895

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#RogerILaondied926. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%20900-1100.htm#HelwigM1HucbaldDillingenM2RogerILaon
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Vermandois, Valois & Vexin & Chaumont-en-Vexin, Ham, Saint-Simon, Sohier-Walincourt,, p. 6: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Vermandois-Valois-Vexin.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hucbald_de_Gouy. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  5. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 15 April 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."

Raoul II de Gouy Comte de Valois, d'Amiens et du Vexin1

M, #94404, d. 944
FatherRaoul I de Gouy Count of Ostrevant, Amiens & Valois1 d. bt 926 - 943
MotherAdelais/Adelaide (?)1 b. bt 908 - 916
Last Edited15 Apr 2020
     Raoul II de Gouy Comte de Valois, d'Amiens et du Vexin married Liegardis (?) Comtesse de Meulan et de Mantes,;
Her 1st hsuband.1,2
Raoul II de Gouy Comte de Valois, d'Amiens et du Vexin died in 944; Killed in battle.1,2
     ;      Racines et Histoire reverses the order of Raoul I and Raoul II (called Raoul 1er de Cambrai). It also shows Gauthier I as the son of Raoul 1er de Cambrai.See attached diagram from Racines et Histoire (Vermandois, et al, p. 6)
To further complicate the discussion,
I have chosen to follow the lineage as laid out by Med Lands. GA Vaut.2,3



; Per Racines et Histoire: "Raoul 1er de Cambrai +X 944 comte de Valois et Vexin
     ép. 2) Liégarde, comtesse de Meulan et de Mantes (veuve, elle ép. 2) Galeran 1er , comte de Meulan + 985/87.)3"



; Per Med Lands:
     "RAOUL [II] (-killed in battle 944). Flodoard records that "Rodulfum filium Rodulfi de Gaugliaco" attempted to invade Vermandois in 943, during the course of which he was killed[1547]. Comte de Valois, d'Amiens et du Vexin. He built the fortress of Crépy before 943. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "Radulfum Cameracensem comitem" invaded Vermandois, adding that he was "nepos…ex sorore" of Louis IV King of France[1548], although the earlier source on which this last piece of information is based has not been identified. The History of Waulsort monastery records that "Cameracensis comes Rodulfus…regalis consanguinitatis" invaded the territory of "quatuor Heriberti filios" with the consent of "rege Francorum…avunculo suo" but was expulsed[1549], but this confuses Raoul [II] with Raoul, son of Baudouin I Count of Flanders.
     "m as her first husband, LIEGARDIS Ctss de Meulan et de Mantes, daughter of --- (-12 Nov [990/91]). "Liutgarde veuve du comte Raoul" donated property to Saint-Cyr de Nevers by charter dated Oct 947[1550]. She married (after Oct 947) secondly Galéran Comte de Meulan. The primary source which confirms her second marriage has not been identified."
Med Lands cites:
[1547] Flodoard, 943, MGH SS III, p. 389.
[1548] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 943, MGH SS XXIII, p. 763.
[1549] Historia Walciodorensis Monasterii 6, MGH SS XIV, p. 508.
[1550] Nevers Saint-Cyr, 10, p. 24.1
Raoul II de Gouy Comte de Valois, d'Amiens et du Vexin was also known as Raoul 1 de Cambrai Comte de Valois et Vexin.2

; Per Racines et Histoire: "Raoul 1er de Cambrai +X 944 comte de Valois et Vexin
     ép. 2) Liégarde, comtesse de Meulan et de Mantes (veuve, elle ép. 2) Galeran 1er ."2

Family

Liegardis (?) Comtesse de Meulan et de Mantes, d. bt 12 Nov 990 - 991

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#RaoulIValoisdied944. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Vermandois, Valois & Vexin & Chaumont-en-Vexin, Ham, Saint-Simon, Sohier-Walincourt,, p. 6: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Vermandois-Valois-Vexin.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 15 April 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."

Liegardis (?) Comtesse de Meulan et de Mantes,1

F, #94405, d. between 12 November 990 and 991
ReferenceGAV29
Last Edited15 Apr 2020
     Liegardis (?) Comtesse de Meulan et de Mantes, married Raoul II de Gouy Comte de Valois, d'Amiens et du Vexin, son of Raoul I de Gouy Count of Ostrevant, Amiens & Valois and Adelais/Adelaide (?);
Her 1st hsuband.1,2 Liegardis (?) Comtesse de Meulan et de Mantes, married Galeran/Waleran I de Chartres Comte de Meulan after October 947;
Her 2nd husdand.3
Liegardis (?) Comtesse de Meulan et de Mantes, died between 12 November 990 and 991.1
     ; Per Racines et Histoire: "Raoul 1er de Cambrai +X 944 comte de Valois et Vexin
     ép. 2) Liégarde, comtesse de Meulan et de Mantes (veuve, elle ép. 2) Galeran 1er ."2

GAV-29.

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#RaoulIValoisdied944. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Vermandois, Valois & Vexin & Chaumont-en-Vexin, Ham, Saint-Simon, Sohier-Walincourt,, p. 6: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Vermandois-Valois-Vexin.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm#GaleranMeulandiedbefore985

Galeran/Waleran I de Chartres Comte de Meulan1

M, #94406, d. before 11 November 987
ReferenceGAV29
Last Edited15 Apr 2020
     Galeran/Waleran I de Chartres Comte de Meulan married Liegardis (?) Comtesse de Meulan et de Mantes, after October 947;
Her 2nd husdand.1
Galeran/Waleran I de Chartres Comte de Meulan died before 11 November 987.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "GALERAN [I] [de Chartres], son of --- (-11 Nov before [985/87]). Comte de Meulan.
     "m (after Oct 947) as her second husband, LIEGARDIS Ctss de Meulan et de Mantes, widow of RAOUL [II] Comte de Cambrai, daughter of --- (-12 Nov [990/91]). "Liutgarde veuve du comte Raoul" donated property to Saint-Cyr de Nevers by charter dated Oct 947[1447]. The primary source which confirms her title and second marriage has not yet been identified."
Med Lands cites: [1447] Nevers Saint-Cyr, 10, p. 24.1 GAV-29.

Family

Liegardis (?) Comtesse de Meulan et de Mantes, d. bt 12 Nov 990 - 991
Child

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm#GaleranMeulandiedbefore985. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

NN de Rennes1

F, #94408, b. circa 860
ReferenceGAV30
Last Edited21 Apr 2020
     NN de Rennes married Pepin I (?) Cte de Senlis, sn de Valois, son of Pepin II Quentin (?) Cte de Vermandois, sn de Senlis, de Peronne et de St.Quentin.1 NN de Rennes was born circa 860.1
     ; Per Racines et Histoire: "Pépin 1er ° ~845 + ~28/01/893 comte de Senlis et de Valois ép. ? de Rennes ° ~860."1

GAV-30.

Family

Pepin I (?) Cte de Senlis, sn de Valois b. bt 845 - 846, d. a 28 Jan 893
Child

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Vermandois, Valois & Vexin, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Vermandois-Valois-Vexin.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Haquenez (?) hhéritière de Montdidier et Péronne1,2

F, #94409
ReferenceGAV26
Last Edited26 Apr 2020
     Haquenez (?) hhéritière de Montdidier et Péronne married Raoul III/IV 'le Grand' (?) Comte de Valois de Crépy et de Vexin, son of Raoul II (?) Comte d'Amiens, de Valois et Crépy and Adèle de Breteuil, before 1060;
His 2nd wife.1,3 Haquenez (?) hhéritière de Montdidier et Péronne and Raoul III/IV 'le Grand' (?) Comte de Valois de Crépy et de Vexin were divorced in 1060.1
     ; Per Racines et Histoire (Vermandois...): "Raoul III «Le Grand» de Valois °~1010/15 + 08/09/1074 (Mondidier) comte de Crépy et Valois, puis d’Amiens, Pontoise, Mantes et Chaumont (Vexin, ~1063)
     ép. 1) Adèle de Bar-sur-Aube (alias de Vitry) ° 1000/10 + 1053 (fille de Nocher III ; veuve de Renaud de Joigny)
     ép. 2) Aliénor dite «Haquenez» (répudiée)
     ép. 3) Anna Yaroslavna de Kiev ° 1024 + un 5/09 entre 1075 & 1079 (fille de Yaroslav 1er Vladimirovitch ; veuve du Roi Henri 1er)"
Per Racines et Histoire (Nanteuil-Le-Haudouin): "Raoul III «Le Grand» de Valois + 23/02 ou 08/09/1074 (Péronne) comte de Valois (1030/35), comte d’Amiens et du Vexin (~1063, y succède à son cousin Gauthier III), Crépy, Mantes et Chaumont, tient tête à Henri 1er, Roi de France, à la mort d’Eudes II, comte de Blois (1038), X en Beauvaisis (1041), 1er conseiller du Conseil Royal - d’une grande puissance et influence, excommunié suite au scandale de son 3° mariage (donations à Montérendier, à Molesme)
     ép. 1) Aelis de Bar (-sur-Aube, de Champagne) + 11/09/1053 (fille et héritière de Nocher III, comte de Bar-sur-Aube et de Vitry-en-Perthois ; veuve de 1) Renaud de Semur-en-Brionnais ; de 2) Renaud, comte de Joigny ; et 3) Roger 1er, avoué de Vignory)
     ép. 2) (répud. 1060) Alienor «Haquenez», héritière de Montdidier et de Péronne
     ép. 3) 1061 Anna Yaroslavna de Kiev (fille de Yaroslav 1er Vladimirovitch «Moudriy» («Le Sage»), Grand-Prince de Kiev, et de Ingigerd Olafsdottir de Suède ;
veuve d’Henri 1er, Roi de France.)4,5" GAV-26.

; Per Med Lands:
     "m secondly (repudiated 1060) ---["Haquenez"], daughter of ---. Europäische Stammtafeln names “Haquenez” as second wife of Raoul [III], adding that she was repudiated and died after 1061[15]. The primary source which confirms her name has not been identified. She is named as such in numerous secondary sources published over the last two centuries, which sometimes also call her “Eléonore”, but none has been found which cites a primary source providing the basis for these names. Pope Alexander II wrote to Gervais Archbishop of Reims in 1062 recording that "comes Radulfus" had repudiated his (unnamed) wife on false charges of adultery and requiring him to take her back[16]."
Med Lands cites:
[15] ES III 657.
[16] Anne de France (1825), p. 30.3
Haquenez (?) hhéritière de Montdidier et Péronne was also known as Alienor dite «Haquenez» (?) Héritière de Montdidier et de Péronne.5,4

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 657.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Haquenez: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198141&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Raoul IV de Vexin: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raoul_IV_de_Vexin. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#RaoulIIValois. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Vermandois, Valois & Vexin, p. 7: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Vermandois-Valois-Vexin.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Nanteuil-Le-Haudouin, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Nanteuil-Le-Haudouin.pdf

NN de Brioude1

F, #94410, d. before 962
FatherDalmas II (?)1 d. a 983
MotherAldiarde (?)1
Last Edited16 Apr 2020
     NN de Brioude married Geoffroi II de Semur baron de Semur-en-Brionnais, son of Geoffroi I (Arlebaud) de Semur baron de Semur-en-Brionnais and Dalmace (?) de Brioude;
His 1st wife.1
NN de Brioude died before 962.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "[daughter (-before 962). The genealogy of the Seigneurs de Semur, included in the cartulary of Marcigny-sur-Loire and dated to [1144], names "Jaufrois qui eut la fille de Dalmas Vicomte de Briode" as son of "Joceran et Richoare"[1119]. It is not certain that "Dalmas Vicomte de Briode" refers to Vicomte Dalmas [II], but from a chronological point of view this appears probable.
     "m as his first wife, GEOFFROY de Semur, son of JOCERAN de Semur & his wife Richoara --- (-[1020]). He succeeded his father in [992/94] as Seigneur de Semur.] "
Med Lands cites: [1119] Marcigny-sur-Loire I, p. 1.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AUVERGNE.htm#dauDalmasMGeoffroyISemur. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdautun.htm#RenaudMAelisBarSurSeine1040