Raoul I de Fougères Seigneur de Fougères1
M, #50911
Father | Meen II de Fougères Seigneur de Fougères2 d. b 1089 |
Mother | Adelaide (?)2 |
Last Edited | 7 Oct 2020 |
Raoul I de Fougères Seigneur de Fougères married Avice de Clare, daughter of Richard de Tonbridge ftiz Gilbert de Clare and Rohese Giffard.1,2
; Per Med Lands:
"RAOUL [I] de Fougères (-1124). "Radulfus seculari militiæ mancipatus" donated property to Sainte-Trinité de Fougères with the consent of "matris meæ Adeladis et sororis meæ Godeheldis et fratres mei Heudo…et Johelis" by undated charter[584]. Domesday Book records land held by “Ralph de Feugeres” in Headley in Copthorne Hundred and Westcott in Wotton Hundred, Surrey, Twyford and Charnford in Mow Hundred in Buckinghamshire[585]. He succeeded his father as Seigneur de Fougères. "Alani comitis comitisseque Constantie" donated property to the abbey of Redon by charter dated 1089, witnessed by "Mathias comes Namnetis…Eudo vicecomes, Radulfus anglicus comes, Radulfus de Fulgeres…Budicus frater Hoelli comitis"[586]. "Radulfus Filogerensis et uxor eius Avicia" donated property to Sainte-Trinité de Fougères by undated charter which names "pater eius Maino", recording that he was "monachus sancti Martini apud Hilduini mansile…in comitatu comitis Moritonii"[587].
"m AVICE de Clare, daughter of RICHARD FitzGilbert Lord of Clare & his wife Rohese Giffard of Buckingham . Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Richardum”, son of “Gislebertus...filius Godefridi comitis Aucensis”, had two daughters of whom one married “Rodulfo de Telegeriis” by whom she had “Fransualo, Henricus et Robertus Giffard”[588]. “Telegeriis” has not been identified: it is unlikely to be Tillières, normally represented as “Tegularias” or variants, which had been granted to Gilbert Crispin by Guillaume II Duke of Normandy. The same individuals are named in the charter dated 7 Mar 1113 quoted below, which indicates that the family was Fougères: presumably “Telegeriis” is a misreading or mistranscription. "Radulfus Filogerensis et uxor eius Avicia" donated property to Sainte-Trinité de Fougères by undated charter[589]. "Radulfus Filgeriensis" with "his wife Avitia" donated property to the abbey of Holy Trinity, Sauvigny by charter dated 7 Mar 1113, subscribed by "Maino-franswalo filius eius, Henricus et Robertus similiter filii eius…"[590].
"Raoul [I] & his wife had three children"
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"RAOUL [I] de Fougères (-1124). "Radulfus seculari militiæ mancipatus" donated property to Sainte-Trinité de Fougères with the consent of "matris meæ Adeladis et sororis meæ Godeheldis et fratres mei Heudo…et Johelis" by undated charter[584]. Domesday Book records land held by “Ralph de Feugeres” in Headley in Copthorne Hundred and Westcott in Wotton Hundred, Surrey, Twyford and Charnford in Mow Hundred in Buckinghamshire[585]. He succeeded his father as Seigneur de Fougères. "Alani comitis comitisseque Constantie" donated property to the abbey of Redon by charter dated 1089, witnessed by "Mathias comes Namnetis…Eudo vicecomes, Radulfus anglicus comes, Radulfus de Fulgeres…Budicus frater Hoelli comitis"[586]. "Radulfus Filogerensis et uxor eius Avicia" donated property to Sainte-Trinité de Fougères by undated charter which names "pater eius Maino", recording that he was "monachus sancti Martini apud Hilduini mansile…in comitatu comitis Moritonii"[587].
"m AVICE de Clare, daughter of RICHARD FitzGilbert Lord of Clare & his wife Rohese Giffard of Buckingham . Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Richardum”, son of “Gislebertus...filius Godefridi comitis Aucensis”, had two daughters of whom one married “Rodulfo de Telegeriis” by whom she had “Fransualo, Henricus et Robertus Giffard”[588]. “Telegeriis” has not been identified: it is unlikely to be Tillières, normally represented as “Tegularias” or variants, which had been granted to Gilbert Crispin by Guillaume II Duke of Normandy. The same individuals are named in the charter dated 7 Mar 1113 quoted below, which indicates that the family was Fougères: presumably “Telegeriis” is a misreading or mistranscription. "Radulfus Filogerensis et uxor eius Avicia" donated property to Sainte-Trinité de Fougères by undated charter[589]. "Radulfus Filgeriensis" with "his wife Avitia" donated property to the abbey of Holy Trinity, Sauvigny by charter dated 7 Mar 1113, subscribed by "Maino-franswalo filius eius, Henricus et Robertus similiter filii eius…"[590].
"Raoul [I] & his wife had three children"
Med Lands cites:
[584] Fougères Sainte-Trinité IV, p. 186.
[585] Domesday Translation, Surrey, XXXII, p. 87, Buckinghamshire, XXXVII, p. 416.
[586] Redon CCXC, p. 238.
[587] Fougères Sainte-Trinité X, p. 195.
[588] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XXXVII, p. 312.
[589] Fougères Sainte-Trinité X, p. 195.
[590] Round (1899) 792, p. 287.2
[585] Domesday Translation, Surrey, XXXII, p. 87, Buckinghamshire, XXXVII, p. 416.
[586] Redon CCXC, p. 238.
[587] Fougères Sainte-Trinité X, p. 195.
[588] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XXXVII, p. 312.
[589] Fougères Sainte-Trinité X, p. 195.
[590] Round (1899) 792, p. 287.2
Family | Avice de Clare |
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Citations
- [S2077] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 June 2006: "Re: Brittany was Re: William de Mohun's (d Oct 1193) ancestors," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 June 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 June 2006."
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/brittnpr.htm#RaoulIFougeresdied1124. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/brittnpr.htm#HenriFougeresdied1154B
Lord Richard Grey1,2,3,4
M, #50913
Father | Thomas Grey KB, KG, 1st Marquess of Dorset, 8th Lord Ferrers of Groby, Lord Astley1,2,3,5 b. bt 1451 - 1455, d. 30 Aug 1501 |
Mother | Cecily Bonville Baroness Harington and Bonville6,7 b. bt 1460 - 1461, d. 12 May 1530 |
Last Edited | 16 Dec 2012 |
Lord Richard Grey married Florence Pudsey, daughter of Henry Pudsey Esq., of Bolton, Berforth, and Rimington, Yorkshire and Margaret Conyers of Hornby,
; her 3rd husband; per Verity "Lady Florence had a third marriage arranged for her by Henry VIII to Lord Richard Grey, younger son of the 1st Marquess of Dorset."1,2,3,8,4
; her 3rd husband; per Verity "Lady Florence had a third marriage arranged for her by Henry VIII to Lord Richard Grey, younger son of the 1st Marquess of Dorset."1,2,3,8,4
Family | Florence Pudsey d. 1558 |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Clifford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2051] Brad Verity, "Verity email 26 Mar 2006: "Children of the 10th Lord Clifford"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 26 Mar 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 26 Mar 2006."
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Clifford 14: pp. 217-218. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Pudsey 14: pp. 597-8.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas Grey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00015399&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Cecily Bonville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00015401&tree=LEO
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Grey 16: pp. 359-360.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Florence Pudsey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108004&tree=LEO
Lady Margaret Talbot1
F, #50914
Father | George Talbot KG, KB, PC, 4th Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford1,2 b. 1468, d. 26 Jul 1538 |
Mother | Anne Hastings2 |
Last Edited | 25 Dec 2007 |
Lady Margaret Talbot died; dsp.1 She married Henry Clifford KG, 11th Lord Clifford, 1st Earl of Cumberland, son of Henry 'the Shepherd Lord' Clifford Knt., KB, 10th Lord Clifford, KB and Anne Saint John, on 28 February 1506
; Date of contract.1,2
; Date of contract.1,2
Family | Henry Clifford KG, 11th Lord Clifford, 1st Earl of Cumberland b. 1493, d. 22 Apr 1542 |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Clifford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2051] Brad Verity, "Verity email 26 Mar 2006: "Children of the 10th Lord Clifford"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 26 Mar 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 26 Mar 2006."
George Talbot KG, KB, PC, 4th Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford1,2
M, #50915, b. 1468, d. 26 July 1538
Father | Sir John Talbot Knt., 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford2 b. 12 Dec 1448, d. 28 Jun 1473 |
Mother | Lady Katharine de Stafford2 d. 26 Dec 1476 |
Last Edited | 22 Apr 2007 |
George Talbot KG, KB, PC, 4th Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford was born in 1468.2 He married Anne Hastings, daughter of William Hastings Knt, KG, 1st Lord Hastings and Lady Katherine Neville, before 27 June 1481
; per Burke's Peerage, George Talbot and Anne Hastings had six sons and five daughters.3,2 George Talbot KG, KB, PC, 4th Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford married Elizabeth Walden, daughter of Sir Richard Walden of Erith, Kent, circa 1512.2
George Talbot KG, KB, PC, 4th Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford died on 26 July 1538.2
He was 4th Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford.2
; GEORGE TALBOT, 4th Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford, KG (1488), KB (1475), PC (1512), JP (Derbys, Herefs, Notts, Salop, Staffs, Worcs and E R and W R Yorks 1486); b 1468; fought Battle of Stoke 1487, Steward Household 1506-38, Lt Gen Army invasion of France 1513, fought Battle of the Spurs 16 Aug and took Thérouanne 22 Aug, Lt Gen of the North 1522, played an important role in suppressing the Pilgrimage of Grace 1536; m 1st by 27 June 1481 Anne, dau of William, 1st Lord (Baron) Hastings (of Hastings) (see HUNTINGDON, E), and had six sons and five daus; m 2nd c 1512 Elizabeth, dau and coheir of Sir Richard Walden, of Erith, Kent, by whom he had one surv dau (Anne; m 1st Peter Compton, s and heir of Sir William Compton (see NORTHAMPTON, M); m 2nd 1st Earl of Pembroke; see PEMBROKE and MONTGOMERY, E), and d 26 July 1538.2 He was 9th LORD (Baron) FURNIVALL(E.)4
; per Burke's Peerage, George Talbot and Anne Hastings had six sons and five daughters.3,2 George Talbot KG, KB, PC, 4th Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford married Elizabeth Walden, daughter of Sir Richard Walden of Erith, Kent, circa 1512.2
George Talbot KG, KB, PC, 4th Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford died on 26 July 1538.2
He was 4th Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford.2
; GEORGE TALBOT, 4th Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford, KG (1488), KB (1475), PC (1512), JP (Derbys, Herefs, Notts, Salop, Staffs, Worcs and E R and W R Yorks 1486); b 1468; fought Battle of Stoke 1487, Steward Household 1506-38, Lt Gen Army invasion of France 1513, fought Battle of the Spurs 16 Aug and took Thérouanne 22 Aug, Lt Gen of the North 1522, played an important role in suppressing the Pilgrimage of Grace 1536; m 1st by 27 June 1481 Anne, dau of William, 1st Lord (Baron) Hastings (of Hastings) (see HUNTINGDON, E), and had six sons and five daus; m 2nd c 1512 Elizabeth, dau and coheir of Sir Richard Walden, of Erith, Kent, by whom he had one surv dau (Anne; m 1st Peter Compton, s and heir of Sir William Compton (see NORTHAMPTON, M); m 2nd 1st Earl of Pembroke; see PEMBROKE and MONTGOMERY, E), and d 26 July 1538.2 He was 9th LORD (Baron) FURNIVALL(E.)4
Family 1 | |
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Family 2 | Anne Hastings |
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Family 3 | Elizabeth Walden |
Child |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Clifford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Shrewsbury and Waterford Family Page.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Huntingdon Family Page.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Petre Family Page.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Northumberland Family Page.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Dacre Family Page.
- [S2051] Brad Verity, "Verity email 26 Mar 2006: "Children of the 10th Lord Clifford"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 26 Mar 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 26 Mar 2006."
Anne Dacre1,2
F, #50916, d. before 31 July 1581
Father | William Dacre 3rd Lord Dacre of Gilsland, 9th Lord Greystoke1,2 b. 29 Apr 1500, d. 18 Nov 1563 |
Mother | Elizabeth Talbot2 |
Last Edited | 25 Mar 2003 |
Anne Dacre married Henry Clifford 12th Lord Clifford, 2nd Earl of Cumberland, KB, son of Henry Clifford KG, 11th Lord Clifford, 1st Earl of Cumberland, between 1552 and 1553.1,2
Anne Dacre died before 31 July 1581.1
Anne Dacre died before 31 July 1581.1
Family | Henry Clifford 12th Lord Clifford, 2nd Earl of Cumberland, KB b. c 1517, d. bt 2 Jan 1570 - 1571 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Clifford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint og 1883 edition), p. 153. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Clifford Family Page - see BEDFORD, D.
Eleanor Dacre1
F, #50917
Father | William Dacre 3rd Lord Dacre of Gilsland, 9th Lord Greystoke1 b. 29 Apr 1500, d. 18 Nov 1563 |
Mother | Elizabeth Talbot1 |
Last Edited | 25 Mar 2003 |
Eleanor Dacre married Henry Jerningham Esq., of Costessy Hall, Norfolk.1
; Eleanor, m. to Henry Jerningham, Esq., of Costessy Hall, Norfolk, by whom she had issue.1
; Eleanor, m. to Henry Jerningham, Esq., of Costessy Hall, Norfolk, by whom she had issue.1
Family | Henry Jerningham Esq., of Costessy Hall, Norfolk |
Child |
Citations
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint og 1883 edition), p. 153. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
George Clifford 13th Lord Clifford, 3rd Earl of Cumberland, KG, PC1
M, #50918, b. 8 August 1558, d. 29 October 1605
Father | Henry Clifford 12th Lord Clifford, 2nd Earl of Cumberland, KB1 b. c 1517, d. bt 2 Jan 1570 - 1571 |
Mother | Anne Dacre1 d. b 31 Jul 1581 |
Last Edited | 28 Sep 2002 |
George Clifford 13th Lord Clifford, 3rd Earl of Cumberland, KG, PC was born on 8 August 1558.1 He married Lady Margaret Russell, daughter of Francis Russell KG, KB, PC, 2nd Earl of Bedford and Margaret St. John, on 24 June 1577.1
George Clifford 13th Lord Clifford, 3rd Earl of Cumberland, KG, PC died on 29 October 1605 at age 47; dspms.1
; GEORGE CLIFFORD, 13th Lord (Baron) Clifford and 3rd EARL OF CUMBERLAND, KG (1592), PC (1603); b 8 Aug 1558; educ Peterhouse and Trin Coll Cambridge (MA 1576); Cncllr of the N 1582, ktd 1588, Constable and Steward Knaresborough 1597, Adml 1598, Lt-Gen in London 1599 and 1601, Col London Trained Bands 1599, High Steward Honour of Grafton and Ranger Salcey Forest 1602, Warden W and Middle Marches, Govr Carlisle and Harbottle Castle, Custos Rotulorum Cumberland 1603, mathematician and navigator (made nine voyages to the W Indies 1589-98, capturing the town of Fiall in the Azores and the fort of Puertorico 1598); m 24 June 1577 Lady Margaret Russell (d 22 May 1616), yst child of 2nd Earl of Bedford (see BEDFORD, D), and dspms 29 Oct 1605, having had issue.1
George Clifford 13th Lord Clifford, 3rd Earl of Cumberland, KG, PC died on 29 October 1605 at age 47; dspms.1
; GEORGE CLIFFORD, 13th Lord (Baron) Clifford and 3rd EARL OF CUMBERLAND, KG (1592), PC (1603); b 8 Aug 1558; educ Peterhouse and Trin Coll Cambridge (MA 1576); Cncllr of the N 1582, ktd 1588, Constable and Steward Knaresborough 1597, Adml 1598, Lt-Gen in London 1599 and 1601, Col London Trained Bands 1599, High Steward Honour of Grafton and Ranger Salcey Forest 1602, Warden W and Middle Marches, Govr Carlisle and Harbottle Castle, Custos Rotulorum Cumberland 1603, mathematician and navigator (made nine voyages to the W Indies 1589-98, capturing the town of Fiall in the Azores and the fort of Puertorico 1598); m 24 June 1577 Lady Margaret Russell (d 22 May 1616), yst child of 2nd Earl of Bedford (see BEDFORD, D), and dspms 29 Oct 1605, having had issue.1
Family | Lady Margaret Russell d. 22 May 1616 |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Clifford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
Lady Margaret Russell1
F, #50919, d. 22 May 1616
Father | Francis Russell KG, KB, PC, 2nd Earl of Bedford1,2 b. 1527, d. 28 Jul 1585 |
Mother | Margaret St. John3 d. 27 Aug 1562 |
Last Edited | 10 Aug 2008 |
Lady Margaret Russell married George Clifford 13th Lord Clifford, 3rd Earl of Cumberland, KG, PC, son of Henry Clifford 12th Lord Clifford, 2nd Earl of Cumberland, KB and Anne Dacre, on 24 June 1577.1
Lady Margaret Russell died on 22 May 1616.1
Lady Margaret Russell died on 22 May 1616.1
Family | George Clifford 13th Lord Clifford, 3rd Earl of Cumberland, KG, PC b. 8 Aug 1558, d. 29 Oct 1605 |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Clifford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Francis Russell: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00057994&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Bedford Family Page.
Francis Russell KG, KB, PC, 2nd Earl of Bedford1,2,3
M, #50920, b. 1527, d. 28 July 1585
Father | John Russell KG, 1st Earl of Bedford4,3 b. c 1485, d. 14 Mar 1555 |
Mother | Anne Sapcote5,3 |
Last Edited | 10 Aug 2008 |
Francis Russell KG, KB, PC, 2nd Earl of Bedford married Margaret St. John, daughter of Sir John St. John Knt., of Bletsoe, Bedfordshire and Margaret Waldegrave,
; her 2nd husband, his 2nd wife.2,6,3 Francis Russell KG, KB, PC, 2nd Earl of Bedford was born in 1527.2,3 He married Hon. Bridget Hussey, daughter of John Hussey 1st (last) Lord Hussey of Sleaford and Lady Anne Grey, circa 25 June 1566
; her 3rd husband; van de Pas says date is of contract or similar.2,7,8,3
Francis Russell KG, KB, PC, 2nd Earl of Bedford died on 28 July 1585 at Bedford House, The Strand, co. Middlesex, England; died of gangrene.2,3
; FRANCIS RUSSELL, 2nd Earl of Bedford, KG (1564), KB (Feb 1546/7), PC (1558); b 1527; Sheriff Beds and Bucks 1547-48, MP Bucks 1547-52, Ld Lt Bucks 1552 and later Devon, Dorset and Cornwall; called up to Ho Lds 1 March 1552/3 vp in f's Barony; Warden Stannaries 1559-80, Amb France 1559 and 1561, Govr Berwick and Warden E Marches Feb 1563/4; m 1st Margaret (d 27 Aug 1562), sis of 1st Baron St John of Bletso (qv) and widow of Sir John Gostwick; m 2nd c 25 June 1566 Bridget, widow of (a) 2nd Earl of Rutland (see RUTLAND, D) and (b) Sir Richard Morrison and dau of 1st and last Lord (Baron) Hussey, and d of gangrene 28 July 1585.2
; van de Pas cites: Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, Reference: 266.3 He was 2nd Earl of Bedford.9,2 He was 349 Knight of the Garter - 1564 in 1564.3
; her 2nd husband, his 2nd wife.2,6,3 Francis Russell KG, KB, PC, 2nd Earl of Bedford was born in 1527.2,3 He married Hon. Bridget Hussey, daughter of John Hussey 1st (last) Lord Hussey of Sleaford and Lady Anne Grey, circa 25 June 1566
; her 3rd husband; van de Pas says date is of contract or similar.2,7,8,3
Francis Russell KG, KB, PC, 2nd Earl of Bedford died on 28 July 1585 at Bedford House, The Strand, co. Middlesex, England; died of gangrene.2,3
; FRANCIS RUSSELL, 2nd Earl of Bedford, KG (1564), KB (Feb 1546/7), PC (1558); b 1527; Sheriff Beds and Bucks 1547-48, MP Bucks 1547-52, Ld Lt Bucks 1552 and later Devon, Dorset and Cornwall; called up to Ho Lds 1 March 1552/3 vp in f's Barony; Warden Stannaries 1559-80, Amb France 1559 and 1561, Govr Berwick and Warden E Marches Feb 1563/4; m 1st Margaret (d 27 Aug 1562), sis of 1st Baron St John of Bletso (qv) and widow of Sir John Gostwick; m 2nd c 25 June 1566 Bridget, widow of (a) 2nd Earl of Rutland (see RUTLAND, D) and (b) Sir Richard Morrison and dau of 1st and last Lord (Baron) Hussey, and d of gangrene 28 July 1585.2
; van de Pas cites: Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, Reference: 266.3 He was 2nd Earl of Bedford.9,2 He was 349 Knight of the Garter - 1564 in 1564.3
Family 1 | Margaret St. John d. 27 Aug 1562 |
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Family 2 | Hon. Bridget Hussey b. 1526, d. 12 Jan 1600 |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Clifford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Bedford Family Page.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Francis Russell: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00057994&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Russell: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00057992&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne Sapcote: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00057993&tree=LEO
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Saint John of Bletso Family Page.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Rutland Family Page.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hon. Bridget Hussey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00105850&tree=LEO
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Clifford Family Page - see BEDFORD, D.
Francis Clifford 4th Earl of Cumberland, KB1
M, #50921, b. 1559, d. 21 January 1640/41
Father | Henry Clifford 12th Lord Clifford, 2nd Earl of Cumberland, KB1 b. c 1517, d. bt 2 Jan 1570 - 1571 |
Mother | Anne Dacre1 d. b 31 Jul 1581 |
Last Edited | 11 Nov 2002 |
Francis Clifford 4th Earl of Cumberland, KB was born in 1559.1 He married Grisold Hughes, daughter of Thomas Hughes of Uxbridge, Middlesex, circa March 1589.2
Francis Clifford 4th Earl of Cumberland, KB died on 21 January 1640/41.1
; FRANCIS CLIFFORD, 4th EARL OF CUMBERLAND, KB (1604/5); b 1559; MP Westmorland 1584-87, Yorks 1604-05, Sheriff Yorks 1600, Jt Constable and Steward Knaresborough 1604, Custos Rotulorum Cumberland 1606-39, Ld Lt 1607-41, Ld Lt Northumberland, Westmorland and Newcastle-on-Tyne 1611-39; m soon after March 1589 Grisold (d 15 June 1613), dau of Thomas Hughes, of Uxbridge, Middx, and widow of 7th Lord (Baron) Bergavenny (see ABERGAVENNY, M), and d 21 Jan 1640/1, having had issue.2
Francis Clifford 4th Earl of Cumberland, KB died on 21 January 1640/41.1
; FRANCIS CLIFFORD, 4th EARL OF CUMBERLAND, KB (1604/5); b 1559; MP Westmorland 1584-87, Yorks 1604-05, Sheriff Yorks 1600, Jt Constable and Steward Knaresborough 1604, Custos Rotulorum Cumberland 1606-39, Ld Lt 1607-41, Ld Lt Northumberland, Westmorland and Newcastle-on-Tyne 1611-39; m soon after March 1589 Grisold (d 15 June 1613), dau of Thomas Hughes, of Uxbridge, Middx, and widow of 7th Lord (Baron) Bergavenny (see ABERGAVENNY, M), and d 21 Jan 1640/1, having had issue.2
Family | Grisold Hughes d. 15 Jun 1613 |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Clifford Family Page - see BEDFORD, D. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Clifford Family Page.
Grisold Hughes1
F, #50922, d. 15 June 1613
Father | Thomas Hughes of Uxbridge, Middlesex1 |
Last Edited | 28 Sep 2002 |
Grisold Hughes married Francis Clifford 4th Earl of Cumberland, KB, son of Henry Clifford 12th Lord Clifford, 2nd Earl of Cumberland, KB and Anne Dacre, circa March 1589.1
Grisold Hughes died on 15 June 1613.1
Grisold Hughes died on 15 June 1613.1
Family | Francis Clifford 4th Earl of Cumberland, KB b. 1559, d. 21 Jan 1640/41 |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Clifford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
Thomas Hughes of Uxbridge, Middlesex1
M, #50923
Last Edited | 28 Sep 2002 |
Thomas Hughes of Uxbridge, Middlesex lived at Uxbridge, co. Middlesex, England.1
Family | |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Clifford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
Frances Clifford1
F, #50924, b. 1555, d. 1592
Father | Henry Clifford 12th Lord Clifford, 2nd Earl of Cumberland, KB1,2 b. c 1517, d. bt 2 Jan 1570 - 1571 |
Mother | Anne Dacre1 d. b 31 Jul 1581 |
Last Edited | 18 Feb 2007 |
Frances Clifford was born in 1555.3 She married Philip Wharton 3rd Lord Wharton, son of Sir Thomas Wharton PC, 2nd Baron Wharton and Lady Anne Radcliffe, on 24 June 1577
; had issue, his 1st wife.1,2
Frances Clifford died in 1592.2
; had issue, his 1st wife.1,2
Frances Clifford died in 1592.2
Family | Philip Wharton 3rd Lord Wharton b. 23 Jun 1555, d. 26 Mar 1625 |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Clifford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Wharton Family Page.
- [S2037] Brad Verity, "Verity email 6 Feb 2006: "Daughters of the 2nd Earl of Cumberland"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 6 Feb 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 6 Feb 2006."
Philip Wharton 3rd Lord Wharton1,2
M, #50925, b. 23 June 1555, d. 26 March 1625
Father | Sir Thomas Wharton PC, 2nd Baron Wharton2 b. 1520, d. 14 Jun 1572 |
Mother | Lady Anne Radcliffe2,3 d. 7 Jun 1561 |
Last Edited | 6 Aug 2008 |
Philip Wharton 3rd Lord Wharton was born on 23 June 1555.2 He married Frances Clifford, daughter of Henry Clifford 12th Lord Clifford, 2nd Earl of Cumberland, KB and Anne Dacre, on 24 June 1577
; had issue, his 1st wife.1,2 Philip Wharton 3rd Lord Wharton married Dorothy Colby of Sherfield-on-Loddon, Hants, daughter of Thomas Colby of Sherfield-on-Loddon, Hants and Elizabeth Gilbert, in 1597
; his 2nd wife, her 3rd husband.2
Philip Wharton 3rd Lord Wharton died on 26 March 1625 at age 69.2
He was 3rd Lord (Baron) Wharton of the 1545 cr.1
; PHILIP WHARTON, 3rd Baron Wharton; b 23 June 1555; educ Jesus Coll Cambridge and Gray's Inn (also by a tutor, with whom he was in Paris at the time of the Massacre of St Bartholomew 1572, and who was among those killed); Commr Anglo-Scottish Border 1618 and 1619; m 1st 24 June 1577 Lady Frances Clifford (d 1592), dau of 2nd Earl of Cumberland (see DE CLIFFORD, B); m 2nd 1597 Dorothy (d 4 April 1621), dau and heiress of Thomas Colby, of Sherfield-on-Loddon, Hants, and widow of (a) John Tamworth, of Leake, Lincs, and (b) Sir Francis Willoughby, of Wollaton, Notts, and by his 1st w had issue. The 3rd BARON d 26 March 1625.2
; had issue, his 1st wife.1,2 Philip Wharton 3rd Lord Wharton married Dorothy Colby of Sherfield-on-Loddon, Hants, daughter of Thomas Colby of Sherfield-on-Loddon, Hants and Elizabeth Gilbert, in 1597
; his 2nd wife, her 3rd husband.2
Philip Wharton 3rd Lord Wharton died on 26 March 1625 at age 69.2
He was 3rd Lord (Baron) Wharton of the 1545 cr.1
; PHILIP WHARTON, 3rd Baron Wharton; b 23 June 1555; educ Jesus Coll Cambridge and Gray's Inn (also by a tutor, with whom he was in Paris at the time of the Massacre of St Bartholomew 1572, and who was among those killed); Commr Anglo-Scottish Border 1618 and 1619; m 1st 24 June 1577 Lady Frances Clifford (d 1592), dau of 2nd Earl of Cumberland (see DE CLIFFORD, B); m 2nd 1597 Dorothy (d 4 April 1621), dau and heiress of Thomas Colby, of Sherfield-on-Loddon, Hants, and widow of (a) John Tamworth, of Leake, Lincs, and (b) Sir Francis Willoughby, of Wollaton, Notts, and by his 1st w had issue. The 3rd BARON d 26 March 1625.2
Family 1 | Frances Clifford b. 1555, d. 1592 |
Family 2 | Dorothy Colby of Sherfield-on-Loddon, Hants d. 4 Apr 1621 |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Clifford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Wharton Family Page.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lady Anne Radcliffe: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00109001&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
Stephen de Courtenay1
M, #50926, d. 1101
Father | Josceline I de Courtenay Sire de Courtenay1 b. bt 1020 - 1034, d. a 1065 |
Mother | Hildegarde (?) de Château-Landon1 b. bt 1032 - 1040, d. a 1060 |
Last Edited | 25 Mar 2020 |
Stephen de Courtenay married Hersende de Courtenay, daughter of Athon de Courtenay Lord of Courtenay and castellan of Château-Renard, between 1060 and 1065.1,2,3,4
Stephen de Courtenay died in 1101; Burke's says d.1101; Med Lands says d. aft 1090.1,3
; Per Med Lands:
"ETIENNE (-after [1090]). It is possible that Etienne, father of Adam de Chailly, was either Etienne son of Helduin or Etienne son of Joscelin, both of whom are named in a charter dated to [1090] which records that "Roscelinus de Monsterollo atque Stephanus filius Heldoini et Hersendis uxor eius…Stephanus filius Goscelini et uxor eius Hersendis" consented to the donation of property to Néronville made by "miles…Dimo"[329]. It is assumed that "Stephanus filius Heldoini" and "Stephanus filius Goscelini" were two different individuals, rather than the same person whose father is misnamed in one of the two entries in this document. If that is correct, it is probable that "Stephanus filius Heldoini" was the father of Adam de Chailly, because another charter, dated to [1100/10] records "…Goscelini Infans, filius Stephani" as consenting to another donation to Néronville[330]. It is unlikely that the father of "Goscelini Infans" was the same person as the father of the brothers Adam and Gauthier who are named below, as no other record has been found of their having a brother named Joscelin. It is therefore assumed that "Goscelini Infans" was the son of "Stephanus filius Goscelini", named after his paternal grandfather, leaving "Stephanus filius Heldoini" as the father of Adam and Gauthier. It is probable that the two persons named Etienne in the [1090] charter were closely related, maybe first cousins. Presumably based on the various primary source entries which are quoted in this section, Burke’s Peerage shows "Etienne de Courtenay", son of Joscelin [I] Seigneur de Courtenay and his first wife (see CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY), as the father of "Adam de Chailly"[331]. There are two major difficulties with this supposed parentage proposed by Burke’s. Firstly, if Etienne had been an older son of Joscelin [I], he would have inherited the seigneurie de Courtenay in place of his supposed younger brother Milon de Courtenay. Secondly, as noted below, "Adam filius Stephani" is first named in a document dated to [1085], which places his birth in [1060/65] bearing in mind that he is named in other documents until 1141. This means that Adam could not have been the grandson of Joscelin [I] de Courtenay. As discussed more fully under the entry for Etienne’s wife, it is more likely that the relationship between Adam de Chailly and the Courtenay family was through Adam’s mother.
"m (before [1060/65]) [HERSENDE], daughter of [ATHON] [Châtelain de Châteaurenard] & his wife ---. As the mother of "Adam", her parentage and marriage are suggested by the charter dated to [1116/18] which records that "Robertus Bonet" became a monk at Néronville priory and donated "terram quam habebat a Sed ultra flumen Feure (aliàs Fuhure)" with the consent of "Milo de Curtiniaco et Adam nepos eius, de quorum beneficio erat…Fulco vicecomes [Foulques Vicomte de Château-Landon] de cujus beneficio erat…Garnerius frater Ade et uxor eius Ulgesendis cum filiis suis Herveo et Adam de quorum beneficio erat"[332]. "Adam nepos eius" can be identified as "Adam filius Stephani" who is named in the charters of Néronville which are quoted below, and as Adam de Chailly who was ancestor of later vicomtes de Melun. Presumably based on these various data points, Burke’s Peerage shows "Etienne de Courtenay" as the son of Joscelin [I] Seigneur de Courtenay and his first wife, and as the father of "Adam de Chailly"[333]. As noted above, this proposed parentage appears impossible. Another more likely possibility is that the relationship was based on a family connection in the previous generation, possibly through an otherwise unrecorded sister of Joscelin [I] de Courtenay who married the father of Adam de Chailly. Bearing in mind the notorious difficulty of translating the word nepos, it is certainly possible that it indicates a relationship more remote than "nephew" in the [1116/18] document. The presence of the names of Milon de Courtenay and "Adam nepos eius" in the [1116/18] charter could be explained if the property which was the subject of the donation had been part of the dowry of Adam’s mother, and was then held by her son Adam as vassal of the seigneurs de Courtenay of whom Milon was then the senior representative. Another possible explanation of the relationship between Milon and Adam is that it was through the family of Milon de Courtenay’s mother. In any event, it is possible that Adam de Chailly’s mother was named Hersende. This is suggested by the charter dated [1090] which records that "Roscelinus de Monsterollo atque Stephanus filius Heldoini et Hersendis uxor eius…Stephanus filius Goscelini et uxor eius Hersendis" consented to donations of properties to Néronville made by "miles…Dimo"[334]. The question of the identity of these two individuals named Etienne is discussed more fully above in relation to [Hersende]’s husband, a debate which is irrelevant when considering the question of [Hersende]’s name as the wives of both persons (assuming that they were two different individuals) were named Hersende. This possible name of Adam de Chailly’s mother appears corroborated by Burke’s Peerage, in its highly suspect summary of the early generations of the Courtenay family, which names "Hersent de Montereau" as Adam’s mother[335]. As with all data in Burke’s, no information is given on the primary source on which the statement is based."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire: "? de Courtenay ou Hersent (de Montereau ?) ép. avant 1060/65 ? Etienne + après 1090 (~1101 ?) (fils d’Helduin.)4"
Stephen de Courtenay died in 1101; Burke's says d.1101; Med Lands says d. aft 1090.1,3
; Per Med Lands:
"ETIENNE (-after [1090]). It is possible that Etienne, father of Adam de Chailly, was either Etienne son of Helduin or Etienne son of Joscelin, both of whom are named in a charter dated to [1090] which records that "Roscelinus de Monsterollo atque Stephanus filius Heldoini et Hersendis uxor eius…Stephanus filius Goscelini et uxor eius Hersendis" consented to the donation of property to Néronville made by "miles…Dimo"[329]. It is assumed that "Stephanus filius Heldoini" and "Stephanus filius Goscelini" were two different individuals, rather than the same person whose father is misnamed in one of the two entries in this document. If that is correct, it is probable that "Stephanus filius Heldoini" was the father of Adam de Chailly, because another charter, dated to [1100/10] records "…Goscelini Infans, filius Stephani" as consenting to another donation to Néronville[330]. It is unlikely that the father of "Goscelini Infans" was the same person as the father of the brothers Adam and Gauthier who are named below, as no other record has been found of their having a brother named Joscelin. It is therefore assumed that "Goscelini Infans" was the son of "Stephanus filius Goscelini", named after his paternal grandfather, leaving "Stephanus filius Heldoini" as the father of Adam and Gauthier. It is probable that the two persons named Etienne in the [1090] charter were closely related, maybe first cousins. Presumably based on the various primary source entries which are quoted in this section, Burke’s Peerage shows "Etienne de Courtenay", son of Joscelin [I] Seigneur de Courtenay and his first wife (see CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY), as the father of "Adam de Chailly"[331]. There are two major difficulties with this supposed parentage proposed by Burke’s. Firstly, if Etienne had been an older son of Joscelin [I], he would have inherited the seigneurie de Courtenay in place of his supposed younger brother Milon de Courtenay. Secondly, as noted below, "Adam filius Stephani" is first named in a document dated to [1085], which places his birth in [1060/65] bearing in mind that he is named in other documents until 1141. This means that Adam could not have been the grandson of Joscelin [I] de Courtenay. As discussed more fully under the entry for Etienne’s wife, it is more likely that the relationship between Adam de Chailly and the Courtenay family was through Adam’s mother.
"m (before [1060/65]) [HERSENDE], daughter of [ATHON] [Châtelain de Châteaurenard] & his wife ---. As the mother of "Adam", her parentage and marriage are suggested by the charter dated to [1116/18] which records that "Robertus Bonet" became a monk at Néronville priory and donated "terram quam habebat a Sed ultra flumen Feure (aliàs Fuhure)" with the consent of "Milo de Curtiniaco et Adam nepos eius, de quorum beneficio erat…Fulco vicecomes [Foulques Vicomte de Château-Landon] de cujus beneficio erat…Garnerius frater Ade et uxor eius Ulgesendis cum filiis suis Herveo et Adam de quorum beneficio erat"[332]. "Adam nepos eius" can be identified as "Adam filius Stephani" who is named in the charters of Néronville which are quoted below, and as Adam de Chailly who was ancestor of later vicomtes de Melun. Presumably based on these various data points, Burke’s Peerage shows "Etienne de Courtenay" as the son of Joscelin [I] Seigneur de Courtenay and his first wife, and as the father of "Adam de Chailly"[333]. As noted above, this proposed parentage appears impossible. Another more likely possibility is that the relationship was based on a family connection in the previous generation, possibly through an otherwise unrecorded sister of Joscelin [I] de Courtenay who married the father of Adam de Chailly. Bearing in mind the notorious difficulty of translating the word nepos, it is certainly possible that it indicates a relationship more remote than "nephew" in the [1116/18] document. The presence of the names of Milon de Courtenay and "Adam nepos eius" in the [1116/18] charter could be explained if the property which was the subject of the donation had been part of the dowry of Adam’s mother, and was then held by her son Adam as vassal of the seigneurs de Courtenay of whom Milon was then the senior representative. Another possible explanation of the relationship between Milon and Adam is that it was through the family of Milon de Courtenay’s mother. In any event, it is possible that Adam de Chailly’s mother was named Hersende. This is suggested by the charter dated [1090] which records that "Roscelinus de Monsterollo atque Stephanus filius Heldoini et Hersendis uxor eius…Stephanus filius Goscelini et uxor eius Hersendis" consented to donations of properties to Néronville made by "miles…Dimo"[334]. The question of the identity of these two individuals named Etienne is discussed more fully above in relation to [Hersende]’s husband, a debate which is irrelevant when considering the question of [Hersende]’s name as the wives of both persons (assuming that they were two different individuals) were named Hersende. This possible name of Adam de Chailly’s mother appears corroborated by Burke’s Peerage, in its highly suspect summary of the early generations of the Courtenay family, which names "Hersent de Montereau" as Adam’s mother[335]. As with all data in Burke’s, no information is given on the primary source on which the statement is based."
Med Lands cites:
[329] Néronville, VI, p. 307.
[330] Néronville, XVIII, p. 315.
[331] Burke’s Peerage, Vol. I, p. 833.
[332] Néronville, XXXI, p. 325.
[333] Burke’s Peerage, Vol. I, p. 833.
[334] Néronville, VI, p. 307.
[335] Burke’s Peerage, Vol. I, p. 833.3
He was took part in the First Crusade.1 Stephen de Courtenay was also known as Etienne de Courtenay.3,4 [330] Néronville, XVIII, p. 315.
[331] Burke’s Peerage, Vol. I, p. 833.
[332] Néronville, XXXI, p. 325.
[333] Burke’s Peerage, Vol. I, p. 833.
[334] Néronville, VI, p. 307.
[335] Burke’s Peerage, Vol. I, p. 833.3
; Per Racines et Histoire: "? de Courtenay ou Hersent (de Montereau ?) ép. avant 1060/65 ? Etienne + après 1090 (~1101 ?) (fils d’Helduin.)4"
Family | Hersende de Courtenay |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamsensjoi.htm#dauAthonMEtienne. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#EtienneMHersende
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Courtenay, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Courtenay.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
Hersende de Courtenay1
F, #50927
Father | Athon de Courtenay Lord of Courtenay and castellan of Château-Renard2,3 b. c 985, d. a 1039 |
Last Edited | 25 Mar 2020 |
Hersende de Courtenay married Stephen de Courtenay, son of Josceline I de Courtenay Sire de Courtenay and Hildegarde (?) de Château-Landon, between 1060 and 1065.2,1,4,3
; Per Med Lands:
"[daughter . As the mother of "Adam", her parentage and marriage are suggested by the charter dated to [1116/18] which records that "Robertus Bonet" became a monk at Néronville priory and donated "terram quam habebat a Sed ultra flumen Feure (aliàs Fuhure)" with the consent of "Milo de Curtiniaco et Adam nepos eius, de quorum beneficio erat…Fulco vicecomes [Foulques Vicomte de Château-Landon] de cujus beneficio erat…Garnerius frater Ade et uxor eius Ulgesendis cum filiis suis Herveo et Adam de quorum beneficio erat"[83]. "Adam nepos eius" can be identified as "Adam filius Stephani" who is named in other charters of Néronville dated between [1085] and [1122/42][84], and as Adam de Chailly who was ancestor of later vicomtes de Melun (see PARIS REGION NOBILITY). Presumably based on these data points, Burke’s Peerage shows "Etienne de Courtenay" as the son of Joscelin [I] Seigneur de Courtenay and his first wife, and as the father of "Adam de Chailly"[85]. There are two major difficulties with this supposed parentage proposed by Burke’s. Firstly, if Etienne had been an older son of Joscelin [I], he would have inherited the seigneurie de Courtenay in place of his supposed younger brother Milon de Courtenay. Secondly, as noted above, "Adam filius Stephani" is first named in a document dated to [1085], which places his birth in [1060/65] bearing in mind that he is named in other documents until 1141. This means that he could not have been the grandson of Joscelin [I] de Courtenay. Nevertheless, the [1116/18] charter does indicate a family connection between Adam de Chailly and Milon de Courtenay. The word nepos, notoriously difficult to translate precisely, could mean a relationship more remote than "nephew". One possibility, therefore, is that the relationship was based on a family connection in the previous generation, possibly through an otherwise unrecorded sister of Joscelin [I] de Courtenay who married the father of Adam de Chailly. The presence of the names of Milon de Courtenay and "Adam nepos eius" in the [1116/18] charter could be explained if the property which was the subject of the donation had been part of the dowry of Adam’s mother, and was then held by her son Adam as vassal of the seigneurs de Courtenay of whom Milon was then the senior representative. An alternative possibility is that the relationship between Milon and Adam was through Milon’s mother’s family. In any event, it is possible that Adam de Chailly’s mother was named HERSENDE. This is suggested by the charter dated [1090] which records that "Roscelinus de Monsterollo atque Stephanus filius Heldoini et Hersendis uxor eius…Stephanus filius Goscelini et uxor eius Hersendis" consented to donations of properties to Néronville made by "miles…Dimo"[86]. The question of the identity of these two individuals named Etienne is discussed more fully in the document PARIS REGION NOBILITY in relation to [Hersende]’s husband, although this debate is irrelevant when considering the question of [Hersende]’s name as the wives of both persons (assuming that they were two different individuals) were named Hersende. This possible name of Adam de Chailly’s mother appears corroborated by Burke’s Peerage, in its highly suspect summary of the early generations of the Courtenay family, which names "Hersent de Montereau" as Adam’s mother[87]. As with all data in Burke’s, no information is given on the primary source on which the statement is based.
"m (before [1060/65]) ETIENNE, son of [HELDUIN] & his wife --- (-after [1090]).]"
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire: "? de Courtenay ou Hersent (de Montereau ?) ép. avant 1060/65 ? Etienne + après 1090 (~1101 ?) (fils d’Helduin.)3"
; Per Med Lands:
"[daughter . As the mother of "Adam", her parentage and marriage are suggested by the charter dated to [1116/18] which records that "Robertus Bonet" became a monk at Néronville priory and donated "terram quam habebat a Sed ultra flumen Feure (aliàs Fuhure)" with the consent of "Milo de Curtiniaco et Adam nepos eius, de quorum beneficio erat…Fulco vicecomes [Foulques Vicomte de Château-Landon] de cujus beneficio erat…Garnerius frater Ade et uxor eius Ulgesendis cum filiis suis Herveo et Adam de quorum beneficio erat"[83]. "Adam nepos eius" can be identified as "Adam filius Stephani" who is named in other charters of Néronville dated between [1085] and [1122/42][84], and as Adam de Chailly who was ancestor of later vicomtes de Melun (see PARIS REGION NOBILITY). Presumably based on these data points, Burke’s Peerage shows "Etienne de Courtenay" as the son of Joscelin [I] Seigneur de Courtenay and his first wife, and as the father of "Adam de Chailly"[85]. There are two major difficulties with this supposed parentage proposed by Burke’s. Firstly, if Etienne had been an older son of Joscelin [I], he would have inherited the seigneurie de Courtenay in place of his supposed younger brother Milon de Courtenay. Secondly, as noted above, "Adam filius Stephani" is first named in a document dated to [1085], which places his birth in [1060/65] bearing in mind that he is named in other documents until 1141. This means that he could not have been the grandson of Joscelin [I] de Courtenay. Nevertheless, the [1116/18] charter does indicate a family connection between Adam de Chailly and Milon de Courtenay. The word nepos, notoriously difficult to translate precisely, could mean a relationship more remote than "nephew". One possibility, therefore, is that the relationship was based on a family connection in the previous generation, possibly through an otherwise unrecorded sister of Joscelin [I] de Courtenay who married the father of Adam de Chailly. The presence of the names of Milon de Courtenay and "Adam nepos eius" in the [1116/18] charter could be explained if the property which was the subject of the donation had been part of the dowry of Adam’s mother, and was then held by her son Adam as vassal of the seigneurs de Courtenay of whom Milon was then the senior representative. An alternative possibility is that the relationship between Milon and Adam was through Milon’s mother’s family. In any event, it is possible that Adam de Chailly’s mother was named HERSENDE. This is suggested by the charter dated [1090] which records that "Roscelinus de Monsterollo atque Stephanus filius Heldoini et Hersendis uxor eius…Stephanus filius Goscelini et uxor eius Hersendis" consented to donations of properties to Néronville made by "miles…Dimo"[86]. The question of the identity of these two individuals named Etienne is discussed more fully in the document PARIS REGION NOBILITY in relation to [Hersende]’s husband, although this debate is irrelevant when considering the question of [Hersende]’s name as the wives of both persons (assuming that they were two different individuals) were named Hersende. This possible name of Adam de Chailly’s mother appears corroborated by Burke’s Peerage, in its highly suspect summary of the early generations of the Courtenay family, which names "Hersent de Montereau" as Adam’s mother[87]. As with all data in Burke’s, no information is given on the primary source on which the statement is based.
"m (before [1060/65]) ETIENNE, son of [HELDUIN] & his wife --- (-after [1090]).]"
Med Lands cites:
[83] Néronville, XXXI, p. 325.
[84] Néronville, IV, V, XX, XXXI, and LII, pp. 305, 306, 317, 325 and 338.
[85] Burke’s Peerage I, p. 833.
[86] Néronville, VI, p. 307.
[87] Burke’s Peerage I, p. 833.1
Hersende de Courtenay was also known as Hersent de Montereau.2 [84] Néronville, IV, V, XX, XXXI, and LII, pp. 305, 306, 317, 325 and 338.
[85] Burke’s Peerage I, p. 833.
[86] Néronville, VI, p. 307.
[87] Burke’s Peerage I, p. 833.1
; Per Racines et Histoire: "? de Courtenay ou Hersent (de Montereau ?) ép. avant 1060/65 ? Etienne + après 1090 (~1101 ?) (fils d’Helduin.)3"
Family | Stephen de Courtenay d. 1101 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamsensjoi.htm#dauAthonMEtienne. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Courtenay, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Courtenay.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#EtienneMHersende
Adela de Melgueil1
F, #50928
Father | Pierre de Melgueil Comte de Melgueil1 d. a 27 Apr 1085 |
Mother | Almodis de Toulouse1 b. bt 1045 - 1052, d. a 1123 |
Last Edited | 29 Mar 2020 |
; Per Med Lands: "ADELA de Melgueil . "Raimundus comes Melgoriensis" made his testament "ire volens in Jerusalem" dated to [1110], naming "soror mea Adala", and referring to but not naming his wife and his son[514]."
Med Lands cites: [514] Spicilegium Tome III, p. 460.1 Adela de Melgueil was living in 1110.1
Med Lands cites: [514] Spicilegium Tome III, p. 460.1 Adela de Melgueil was living in 1110.1
Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/TOULOUSE.htm#AlmodisMPierreMelgueil. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Adam de Courtenay of Chailly1
M, #50929, b. between 1060 and 1065, d. after 1141
Father | Stephen de Courtenay1,2 d. 1101 |
Mother | Hersende de Courtenay1,3 |
Last Edited | 25 Mar 2020 |
Adam de Courtenay of Chailly married Aveline de Corbeuil Dame de Yerres, daughter of Baldwin de Corbeuil,
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His 2nd wife.1,4 Adam de Courtenay of Chailly was born between 1060 and 1065.4 He married Mathilde de Melun, daughter of Uron de Melun Vicomtes de Melun, between 1080 and 1090
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His 1st wife.1,4,5
Adam de Courtenay of Chailly died after 1141.4
; Per Med Lands:
"ADAM ([1060/65]-after 1141). His birth date is estimated from his first mention which is dated to [1085], and is also consistent with his having grandsons who had already reached the age of majority before the death of his son Gillon (estimated to before [1140]). "Hauvinus frater Garmundi et Adam filius Stephani…de quorum feudo erat" consented to the donation of revenue from the church of Chevannes to Néronville made by "miles…Fulco Faicus" by charter dated to [1085][336]. "Hauvinus frater Garmundi et Adam filius Stephani…et Garnerius frater Adami, de corum beneficio erant" consented to the donation of revenue from the chapel of Notre-Dame de Souppes to Néronville made by "Fulco Faicus" by charter dated to [1090][337]. "Fulcone vicecomite, Adam filio Stephani, Gilone filius eius…" witnessed the charter dated to [1100/10] under which "Lucia uxor Rainardi Pulcri et Amalricus filius eius et Agnes filia eius" donated property to the priory of Néronville[338]. His family connection with the Courtenay family is indicated by the charter dated to [1116/18] which records that "Robertus Bonet" became a monk at Néronville and donated "terram quam habebat a Sed ultra flumen Feure (aliàs Fuhure)" with the consent of "Milo de Curtiniaco et Adam nepos eius, de quorum beneficio erat…Fulco vicecomes [Foulques Vicomte de Château-Landon] de cujus beneficio erat…Garnerius frater Ade et uxor eius Ulgesendis cum filiis suis Herveo et Adam de quorum beneficio erat"[339]. "Adam filius Stephani, Garnerius frater eius…" witnessed the charter dated to [1122/42] under which "miles Aubericus Forestarius" donated "molendinum…in alodio apud…Nosent" to Néronville[340]. "Adam de Chaalli…et uxor sua Mahaldis et filius eius Gilo" donated "terram de Fontanis" to Néronville, with the consent of "Joscelinus vicecomes Meleduni et Adam frater eius, nepotes memorati Ade", by undated charter[341]. "Adam de Choally" donated "tres hospites in villa…Nemos" to Sauve-Majeur, for the soul of "Gilonis filii mei, qui in cemeterio Neronis Ville sepultus est", by undated charter[342]. Vicomte de Melun, de iure uxoris. A charter records firstly that "Urso Milidunensis vicecomes atque sua uxor" acknowledged that they had no rights in land of Saint-Maur-les-Fossés dated 1085, and that "vicecomes Adam" claimed these rights of his predecessor "cuius filiam in conjugium habebat" and from whom he inherited the viscomté dated 1138[343]. "Dominus Adam de Cali, filius Stephani" donated property to the priory of Néronville, for the soul of "Gilonis filii sui", together with "duo nepotes eius Jocelinus et Adam, filii Gilonis, et Maheldis uxor Gilonis", by charter dated to [1140], confirmed by Louis VII King of France by charter dated 1141[344]. Louis VII King of France confirmed the donation of "decem solidos…in pedagio de Saya" made to Saint-Pierre de Néronville by "Adam de Calliaco", for the soul of "filii sui Gilonis", by charter dated 1141[345]. Louis VII granted protection to Saint-Pierre de Melun, with the support of "Adam tunc vice-comite Meleduni", by charter dated 1141[346].
"m firstly ([1080/90]) MATHILDE de Melun, daughter of [URSON] Vicomte de Melun & his wife ---. "Adam de Chaalli…et uxor sua Mahaldis et filius eius Gilo" donated "terram de Fontanis" to Néronville, with the consent of "Joscelinus vicecomes Meleduni et Adam frater eius, nepotes memorati Ade", by undated charter[347]. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by a charter, which records firstly that "Urso Milidunensis vicecomes atque sua uxor" acknowledged that they had no rights in land of Saint-Maur-les-Fossés dated 1085, and that "vicecomes Adam" claimed these rights of his predecessor "cuius filiam in conjugium habebat" and from whom he inherited the viscomté dated 1138[348]. The document does not specify that Urson was the predecessor of Adam, and therefore father of Adam’s wife, but this is suggested. The chronology of the family also suggests that a connection with Urson may be correct.
"m secondly AVELINE, daughter of ---. “Adam de Challiaco...et Avelina eius Ade sponsa” consented to the donation to Yerres made by “Odo Briardus”, in the presence of “Eustachia Frederici mater”, by undated charter, witnessed by “...Fredericus de Donjonio, Terricus filius Ade de Challiaco...”[349]. According to Burke’s Peerage, Adam married secondly Aveline de Corbeil dame de Yerres, daughter of Baudouin de Corbeil, without citing the primary source on which the information is based[350].]"
Med Lands cites:
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His 2nd wife.1,4 Adam de Courtenay of Chailly was born between 1060 and 1065.4 He married Mathilde de Melun, daughter of Uron de Melun Vicomtes de Melun, between 1080 and 1090
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His 1st wife.1,4,5
Adam de Courtenay of Chailly died after 1141.4
; Per Med Lands:
"ADAM ([1060/65]-after 1141). His birth date is estimated from his first mention which is dated to [1085], and is also consistent with his having grandsons who had already reached the age of majority before the death of his son Gillon (estimated to before [1140]). "Hauvinus frater Garmundi et Adam filius Stephani…de quorum feudo erat" consented to the donation of revenue from the church of Chevannes to Néronville made by "miles…Fulco Faicus" by charter dated to [1085][336]. "Hauvinus frater Garmundi et Adam filius Stephani…et Garnerius frater Adami, de corum beneficio erant" consented to the donation of revenue from the chapel of Notre-Dame de Souppes to Néronville made by "Fulco Faicus" by charter dated to [1090][337]. "Fulcone vicecomite, Adam filio Stephani, Gilone filius eius…" witnessed the charter dated to [1100/10] under which "Lucia uxor Rainardi Pulcri et Amalricus filius eius et Agnes filia eius" donated property to the priory of Néronville[338]. His family connection with the Courtenay family is indicated by the charter dated to [1116/18] which records that "Robertus Bonet" became a monk at Néronville and donated "terram quam habebat a Sed ultra flumen Feure (aliàs Fuhure)" with the consent of "Milo de Curtiniaco et Adam nepos eius, de quorum beneficio erat…Fulco vicecomes [Foulques Vicomte de Château-Landon] de cujus beneficio erat…Garnerius frater Ade et uxor eius Ulgesendis cum filiis suis Herveo et Adam de quorum beneficio erat"[339]. "Adam filius Stephani, Garnerius frater eius…" witnessed the charter dated to [1122/42] under which "miles Aubericus Forestarius" donated "molendinum…in alodio apud…Nosent" to Néronville[340]. "Adam de Chaalli…et uxor sua Mahaldis et filius eius Gilo" donated "terram de Fontanis" to Néronville, with the consent of "Joscelinus vicecomes Meleduni et Adam frater eius, nepotes memorati Ade", by undated charter[341]. "Adam de Choally" donated "tres hospites in villa…Nemos" to Sauve-Majeur, for the soul of "Gilonis filii mei, qui in cemeterio Neronis Ville sepultus est", by undated charter[342]. Vicomte de Melun, de iure uxoris. A charter records firstly that "Urso Milidunensis vicecomes atque sua uxor" acknowledged that they had no rights in land of Saint-Maur-les-Fossés dated 1085, and that "vicecomes Adam" claimed these rights of his predecessor "cuius filiam in conjugium habebat" and from whom he inherited the viscomté dated 1138[343]. "Dominus Adam de Cali, filius Stephani" donated property to the priory of Néronville, for the soul of "Gilonis filii sui", together with "duo nepotes eius Jocelinus et Adam, filii Gilonis, et Maheldis uxor Gilonis", by charter dated to [1140], confirmed by Louis VII King of France by charter dated 1141[344]. Louis VII King of France confirmed the donation of "decem solidos…in pedagio de Saya" made to Saint-Pierre de Néronville by "Adam de Calliaco", for the soul of "filii sui Gilonis", by charter dated 1141[345]. Louis VII granted protection to Saint-Pierre de Melun, with the support of "Adam tunc vice-comite Meleduni", by charter dated 1141[346].
"m firstly ([1080/90]) MATHILDE de Melun, daughter of [URSON] Vicomte de Melun & his wife ---. "Adam de Chaalli…et uxor sua Mahaldis et filius eius Gilo" donated "terram de Fontanis" to Néronville, with the consent of "Joscelinus vicecomes Meleduni et Adam frater eius, nepotes memorati Ade", by undated charter[347]. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by a charter, which records firstly that "Urso Milidunensis vicecomes atque sua uxor" acknowledged that they had no rights in land of Saint-Maur-les-Fossés dated 1085, and that "vicecomes Adam" claimed these rights of his predecessor "cuius filiam in conjugium habebat" and from whom he inherited the viscomté dated 1138[348]. The document does not specify that Urson was the predecessor of Adam, and therefore father of Adam’s wife, but this is suggested. The chronology of the family also suggests that a connection with Urson may be correct.
"m secondly AVELINE, daughter of ---. “Adam de Challiaco...et Avelina eius Ade sponsa” consented to the donation to Yerres made by “Odo Briardus”, in the presence of “Eustachia Frederici mater”, by undated charter, witnessed by “...Fredericus de Donjonio, Terricus filius Ade de Challiaco...”[349]. According to Burke’s Peerage, Adam married secondly Aveline de Corbeil dame de Yerres, daughter of Baudouin de Corbeil, without citing the primary source on which the information is based[350].]"
Med Lands cites:
[336] Néronville, IV, p. 305.
[337] Néronville, V, p. 306.
[338] Néronville, XX, p. 317.
[339] Néronville, XXXI, p. 325.
[340] Néronville, LII, p. 338.
[341] Duchalais ‘Charte inédite…Melun’ (1845), p. 255, quoting "Bib. royale, cabinet de titres, carton coté Melun".
[342] Duchalais ‘Charte inédite…Melun’ (1845), p. 255, quoting "Bib. royale, cabinet de titres, carton coté Melun".
[343] Duchalais ‘Charte inédite…Melun’ (1845), p. 239.
[344] Néronville, LXIX and LXX, pp. 350-1.
[345] Duchalais ‘Charte inédite…Melun’ (1845), p. 256, quoting "Bib. royale, cabinet de titres, carton coté Melun".
[346] Vilevault & Bréquigny (1769), Vol. XI, Supplement, p. 191.
[347] Duchalais ‘Charte inédite…Melun’ (1845), p. 255, quoting "Bib. royale, cabinet de titres, carton coté Melun".
[348] Duchalais ‘Charte inédite…Melun’ (1845), p. 239.
[349] Depoin ‘Les vicomtes de Corbeil’, Tome V (1899), Pièces justificatives, XXIX, p. 65.
[350] Burke’s Peerage, Vol. I, p. 833.4
Adam de Courtenay of Chailly was also known as Adam de Chailly Vicomte de Melun.4[337] Néronville, V, p. 306.
[338] Néronville, XX, p. 317.
[339] Néronville, XXXI, p. 325.
[340] Néronville, LII, p. 338.
[341] Duchalais ‘Charte inédite…Melun’ (1845), p. 255, quoting "Bib. royale, cabinet de titres, carton coté Melun".
[342] Duchalais ‘Charte inédite…Melun’ (1845), p. 255, quoting "Bib. royale, cabinet de titres, carton coté Melun".
[343] Duchalais ‘Charte inédite…Melun’ (1845), p. 239.
[344] Néronville, LXIX and LXX, pp. 350-1.
[345] Duchalais ‘Charte inédite…Melun’ (1845), p. 256, quoting "Bib. royale, cabinet de titres, carton coté Melun".
[346] Vilevault & Bréquigny (1769), Vol. XI, Supplement, p. 191.
[347] Duchalais ‘Charte inédite…Melun’ (1845), p. 255, quoting "Bib. royale, cabinet de titres, carton coté Melun".
[348] Duchalais ‘Charte inédite…Melun’ (1845), p. 239.
[349] Depoin ‘Les vicomtes de Corbeil’, Tome V (1899), Pièces justificatives, XXIX, p. 65.
[350] Burke’s Peerage, Vol. I, p. 833.4
Family 1 | Aveline de Corbeuil Dame de Yerres |
Child |
Family 2 | Mathilde de Melun |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#EtienneMHersende. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamsensjoi.htm#dauAthonMEtienne
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#AdamChaillyM2AvelineCorbeil
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#dauUrseMAdamChailly
Mathilde de Melun1,2
F, #50930
Father | Uron de Melun Vicomtes de Melun1,2 d. bt 1084 - 1094 |
Last Edited | 25 Mar 2020 |
Mathilde de Melun married Adam de Courtenay of Chailly, son of Stephen de Courtenay and Hersende de Courtenay, between 1080 and 1090
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His 1st wife.1,3,2
; Per Med Lands:
"[MATHILDE . "Adam de Chaalli…et uxor sua Mahaldis et filius eius Gilo" donated "terram de Fontanis" to Néronville, with the consent of "Joscelinus vicecomes Meleduni et Adam frater eius, nepotes memorati Ade", by undated charter[318]. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by a charter, which records firstly that "Urso Milidunensis vicecomes atque sua uxor" acknowledged that they had no rights in land of Saint-Maur-les-Fossés dated 1085, and that "vicecomes Adam" claimed these rights of his predecessor "cuius filiam in conjugium habebat" and from whom he inherited the viscomté dated 1138[319]. The document does not specify that Urson was the predecessor of Adam, and therefore father of Adam’s wife, but this is suggested. The chronology of the family also suggests that a connection with Urson may be correct.
"m ([1080/90]) as his first wife, ADAM de Chailly, son of ETIENNE & his wife --- ([1060/65]-after [1140]). Vicomte de Melun, de iure uxoris.]"
Med Lands cites:
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His 1st wife.1,3,2
; Per Med Lands:
"[MATHILDE . "Adam de Chaalli…et uxor sua Mahaldis et filius eius Gilo" donated "terram de Fontanis" to Néronville, with the consent of "Joscelinus vicecomes Meleduni et Adam frater eius, nepotes memorati Ade", by undated charter[318]. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by a charter, which records firstly that "Urso Milidunensis vicecomes atque sua uxor" acknowledged that they had no rights in land of Saint-Maur-les-Fossés dated 1085, and that "vicecomes Adam" claimed these rights of his predecessor "cuius filiam in conjugium habebat" and from whom he inherited the viscomté dated 1138[319]. The document does not specify that Urson was the predecessor of Adam, and therefore father of Adam’s wife, but this is suggested. The chronology of the family also suggests that a connection with Urson may be correct.
"m ([1080/90]) as his first wife, ADAM de Chailly, son of ETIENNE & his wife --- ([1060/65]-after [1140]). Vicomte de Melun, de iure uxoris.]"
Med Lands cites:
[318] Duchalais ‘Charte inédite…Melun’ (1845), p. 255, quoting "Bib. royale, cabinet de titres, carton coté Melun".
[319] Duchalais ‘Charte inédite…Melun’ (1845), p. 239.2
[319] Duchalais ‘Charte inédite…Melun’ (1845), p. 239.2
Family | Adam de Courtenay of Chailly b. bt 1060 - 1065, d. a 1141 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#dauUrseMAdamChailly. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#AdamChaillyM2AvelineCorbeil
Uron de Melun Vicomtes de Melun1,2
M, #50931, d. between 1084 and 1094
Last Edited | 25 Mar 2020 |
Uron de Melun Vicomtes de Melun died between 1084 and 1094.2
; Per Med Lands:
"URSON (-[1085/94]). Vicomte de Melun. "…Ursio vicecomes Meliduni…" witnessed the charter dated 29 May 1067 under which Philippe I King of France confirmed the possessions of Saint-Martin-des-Champs[315]. Père Anselme records that "Urson I…vicomte de Melun" donated "un beau reliquaire à l’abbaye de S. Aubert de Cambray" and "est nommé dans une charte de l’abbaye de Ferrieres" dated 1070, but gives no citation for the corresponding primary sources[316]. "Urso Milidunensis vicecomes atque sua uxor" acknowledged that they had no rights in land of Saint-Maur-les-Fossés by charter dated 1085, the same document recording that "vicecomes Adam" claimed these rights of his predecessor "cuius filiam in conjugium habebat" and from whom he inherited the viscomté dated 1138, the latter witnessed by "Matheus de Monmorenci, Milo de Cortenai...Fredericus de Corboilo…"[317]. m --- (-after 1085). The name of Urson’s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"URSON (-[1085/94]). Vicomte de Melun. "…Ursio vicecomes Meliduni…" witnessed the charter dated 29 May 1067 under which Philippe I King of France confirmed the possessions of Saint-Martin-des-Champs[315]. Père Anselme records that "Urson I…vicomte de Melun" donated "un beau reliquaire à l’abbaye de S. Aubert de Cambray" and "est nommé dans une charte de l’abbaye de Ferrieres" dated 1070, but gives no citation for the corresponding primary sources[316]. "Urso Milidunensis vicecomes atque sua uxor" acknowledged that they had no rights in land of Saint-Maur-les-Fossés by charter dated 1085, the same document recording that "vicecomes Adam" claimed these rights of his predecessor "cuius filiam in conjugium habebat" and from whom he inherited the viscomté dated 1138, the latter witnessed by "Matheus de Monmorenci, Milo de Cortenai...Fredericus de Corboilo…"[317]. m --- (-after 1085). The name of Urson’s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
[315] Liber Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs XII, p. 28.
[316] Père Anselme, Tome V, p. 221.
[317] Duchalais ‘Charte inédite...Melun’ (1845), p. 239.2
[316] Père Anselme, Tome V, p. 221.
[317] Duchalais ‘Charte inédite...Melun’ (1845), p. 239.2
Family | |
Child |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#dauUrseMAdamChailly. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Giles de Courtenay Vicomte de Melun1
M, #50932, d. 1138
Father | Adam de Courtenay of Chailly1,2 b. bt 1060 - 1065, d. a 1141 |
Mother | Mathilde de Melun1,2 |
Last Edited | 25 Mar 2020 |
Giles de Courtenay Vicomte de Melun died in 1138.1
Family | |
Children |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#AdamChaillyM2AvelineCorbeil. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Adam de Courtenay Vicomte de Melun1
M, #50933, d. before 1150
Father | Giles de Courtenay Vicomte de Melun1 d. 1138 |
Last Edited | 28 Sep 2002 |
Adam de Courtenay Vicomte de Melun died before 1150; dsp.1
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
Josselin de Courtenay Vicomte de Melun1
M, #50934, d. 1157
Father | Giles de Courtenay Vicomte de Melun1 d. 1138 |
Last Edited | 28 Sep 2002 |
Josselin de Courtenay Vicomte de Melun married Alpais (?)1
Josselin de Courtenay Vicomte de Melun died in 1157.1
; Josselin, Vicomte de Melun; m Alpais and d 1157, being ancestor of the Vicomtes de Melun, among whom was William III, Vicomte de Melun and Count of Corsica, who dsp 1278, and William IV, Count of Tancarville and Vicomte de Melun, Constable and Chamberlain of Normandy and Grand Butler of France, who was k Battle of Agincourt 1415.1
Josselin de Courtenay Vicomte de Melun died in 1157.1
; Josselin, Vicomte de Melun; m Alpais and d 1157, being ancestor of the Vicomtes de Melun, among whom was William III, Vicomte de Melun and Count of Corsica, who dsp 1278, and William IV, Count of Tancarville and Vicomte de Melun, Constable and Chamberlain of Normandy and Grand Butler of France, who was k Battle of Agincourt 1415.1
Family | Alpais (?) |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
Thierry de Courtenay Sire de Yerres1,2
M, #50938
Father | Adam de Courtenay of Chailly1,2 b. bt 1060 - 1065, d. a 1141 |
Mother | Aveline de Corbeuil Dame de Yerres1,2 |
Last Edited | 25 Mar 2020 |
; ancestor of the COURTENAYs, Lords of Yerres, who died out in the male line 1415.1
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#AdamChaillyM2AvelineCorbeil. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Josselin I «Le Grand» de Courtenay Prince of Galilee, seigneur de Turbessel et de Tibériade, comte d'Edessa1,2,3
M, #50939, d. 1131
Father | Josceline I de Courtenay Sire de Courtenay1,4,2,5 b. bt 1020 - 1034, d. a 1065 |
Mother | Isabel/Elizabeth de Monthléry b. c 1040; Racines et Histoire says his mother was Hildegarde de Gâtinais1,6,2,3 |
Last Edited | 25 Mar 2020 |
Josselin I «Le Grand» de Courtenay Prince of Galilee, seigneur de Turbessel et de Tibériade, comte d'Edessa married Beatrice (?) of Armenia, daughter of Constantine/Kostandin I (?) Lord of Vaghka & Partzerpert and NN Phokas, between 1100 and 1104
; his 1st wife.7,8,9,2,10 Josselin I «Le Grand» de Courtenay Prince of Galilee, seigneur de Turbessel et de Tibériade, comte d'Edessa married Marie de Hauteville, daughter of Richard/Ricardo de Hauteville Pr of Salerno, after 1122
; his 2nd wife.11,12,2,13
Josselin I «Le Grand» de Courtenay Prince of Galilee, seigneur de Turbessel et de Tibériade, comte d'Edessa died in 1131 at Aleppo, Syria.1,9,2,3
; Josselin; held various fiefs in the Crusader kingdoms in and around the Holy Land, becoming Prince of Galilee (1112-18), Count of Edessa (1118-31), both principalities in what is now northern Syria, and Lord of Turbessel in the County of Edessa (enfeoffed by his cousin BALDWIN II of Edessa), Tiberias and Nazareth; m 1st a sis of Leo, Prince of Armenia; m 2nd a sis of Roger, Prince of Antioch, and d 1131 after being injured by falling masonry while sapping the tower of a castle he was besieging, leaving issue by his 1st wife.1 He was Prince of Galilee between 1112 and 1118.1 He was Count of Edessa between 1118 and 1131.1
; his 1st wife.7,8,9,2,10 Josselin I «Le Grand» de Courtenay Prince of Galilee, seigneur de Turbessel et de Tibériade, comte d'Edessa married Marie de Hauteville, daughter of Richard/Ricardo de Hauteville Pr of Salerno, after 1122
; his 2nd wife.11,12,2,13
Josselin I «Le Grand» de Courtenay Prince of Galilee, seigneur de Turbessel et de Tibériade, comte d'Edessa died in 1131 at Aleppo, Syria.1,9,2,3
; Josselin; held various fiefs in the Crusader kingdoms in and around the Holy Land, becoming Prince of Galilee (1112-18), Count of Edessa (1118-31), both principalities in what is now northern Syria, and Lord of Turbessel in the County of Edessa (enfeoffed by his cousin BALDWIN II of Edessa), Tiberias and Nazareth; m 1st a sis of Leo, Prince of Armenia; m 2nd a sis of Roger, Prince of Antioch, and d 1131 after being injured by falling masonry while sapping the tower of a castle he was besieging, leaving issue by his 1st wife.1 He was Prince of Galilee between 1112 and 1118.1 He was Count of Edessa between 1118 and 1131.1
Family 1 | Beatrice (?) of Armenia d. 1119 |
Children |
Family 2 | Marie de Hauteville |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, The Rupenides, Hethumides and Lusignans: The Structure of the Armeno-Cilician Dynasties (11, Rude de Lille, Paris 7e, France: Librairie C. Klincksieck for the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation Armenian Library (Lisbon), 1963), Chart V (J): The House of the Kings of Jerusalem. Hereinafter cited as Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaumont-en-Gâtinais.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Josceline I de Courtenay: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028679&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Courtenay, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Courtenay.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elisabeth de Monthléry: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028680&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076108&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joscelin I de Courtenay: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076107&tree=LEO
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc., Chart I (Rup.).
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Armenia 1 page - The Rupenids: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/armenia1.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Hautvle page (de Hauteville): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/italy/hautvle.html
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc., Chart VI (A): The House of the Princes of Antiochia.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Antioche.pdf, p. 2.
Josselin II de Courtenay Count of Edessa1,2
M, #50940, d. 1159
Father | Josselin I «Le Grand» de Courtenay Prince of Galilee, seigneur de Turbessel et de Tibériade, comte d'Edessa1,3,2,4 d. 1131 |
Mother | Beatrice (?) of Armenia3,5,2 d. 1119 |
Last Edited | 8 Aug 2009 |
Josselin II de Courtenay Count of Edessa married Beatrice (?)
; her 2nd husband.1,2,4
Josselin II de Courtenay Count of Edessa died in 1159 at died a prisoner of the Saracens, Aleppo, Syria; Burke's de Courtenay page says d. 1156; Rudt-Collenberg says d. 1159.1,2,4
; Josselin, Count of Edessa 1131-44 (in the latter year its capture by the Saracens was a factor in bringing about the Second Crusade); besieged Caesarea 1138; m Ic 1132/3 Beatrice, widow of William of Sahyun, Lord of Zerdana (d 1132), and d 1156 a prisoner of the Saracens at Aleppo, leaving issue.1 He was Count of Edessa between 1131 and 1148.2
; her 2nd husband.1,2,4
Josselin II de Courtenay Count of Edessa died in 1159 at died a prisoner of the Saracens, Aleppo, Syria; Burke's de Courtenay page says d. 1156; Rudt-Collenberg says d. 1159.1,2,4
; Josselin, Count of Edessa 1131-44 (in the latter year its capture by the Saracens was a factor in bringing about the Second Crusade); besieged Caesarea 1138; m Ic 1132/3 Beatrice, widow of William of Sahyun, Lord of Zerdana (d 1132), and d 1156 a prisoner of the Saracens at Aleppo, leaving issue.1 He was Count of Edessa between 1131 and 1148.2
Family | Beatrice (?) |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, The Rupenides, Hethumides and Lusignans: The Structure of the Armeno-Cilician Dynasties (11, Rude de Lille, Paris 7e, France: Librairie C. Klincksieck for the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation Armenian Library (Lisbon), 1963), Chart V (J): The House of the Kings of Jerusalem. Hereinafter cited as Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joscelin I de Courtenay: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076107&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaumont-en-Gâtinais.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076108&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joscelin III de Couretenay: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076120&tree=LEO
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc., Chart I (Rup.).
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Ibelin page (d'Ibelin Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/ibelin.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Courtenay: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076116&tree=LEO
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc., Chart XI (I.): The House of Ibelin.