Mayor de Urgel

F, #19441
FatherArmengol IV "el de Gerb" (?) Conde de Urgel b. 1050, d. 28 Mar 1092
MotherLucia (?) de la Marche d. c 1079
Last Edited15 Aug 2020
     Mayor de Urgel married Pedro Fruelas de Trava Conde de Trava, son of Fruelo Bermudez de Trastamare and Sancha Rodriguez, in 1095.

Aimera/Aimerico II (?) Vicomte de Narbonne1

M, #19442, b. circa 1087, d. 17 July 1134
FatherAimeri I (?) Vicomte de Narbonne2,3,4,5 d. 1105
MotherMathilda/Maud/Mafalda/Maaltis de Hauteville2,6,5,4 b. bt 1059 - 1060, d. c 19 Sep 1112
Last Edited6 Oct 2020
     Aimera/Aimerico II (?) Vicomte de Narbonne married Hermensinde (?);
His 2nd wife.2,5,4 Aimera/Aimerico II (?) Vicomte de Narbonne was born circa 1087.5 He married Ermengarde (?) before 26 May 1114;
His 1st wife.2,5,4
Aimera/Aimerico II (?) Vicomte de Narbonne died on 17 July 1134 at Fraga, Spain (now); Killed in battle.5,4,7
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "AIMERY [II] de Narbonne (-killed in battle Fraga, Aragon 17 Jul 1134). A charter dated 7 Feb 1102 names "domini Haymerici vicecomitis Narbonensis et uxoris eius…Matta filiorumque eorum…Aymericus, Giscardus et Bernardus"[1055]. Vicomte de Narbonne. “Aymericus de Narbona filius Mahaltis fæminæ” swore allegiance to “Bernard-Atonem filium qui fuisti Hermengardis” by charter dated to [1107][1056]. "Raimundus Berengarii…Barchinonensis comes et marchio", appointed "Aimericum fratrem meum" as one of his manumissores in his testament dated [8 Jul] 1130[1057]. “Aymericus Narbonæ et uxor mea Ermessindis vicecomitissa et filius meus Aymericus” granted property to “Geraldo de Condomo et uxori tuæ Garsindæ” by charter dated 19 Jan 1130[1058]. The Chronica Adefonsi Imperatoris names "…Gaston of Béarn, Centulle of Bigorre and Almaric of Narbonne" among those who were killed in the battle of Fraga[1059]. Aimery was a close friend of Alfonso [I] "el Batallador" King of Aragon, who was himself mortally wounded during the battle of Fraga.
     "m firstly (before 26 May 1114) ERMENGARDE, daughter of --- (-[1 May] ----). "Aimericus vicecomes Narbonensis et uxor mea Ermengardis" donated property to the abbey of Lagrasse by charter dated 26 May 1114[1060]. It is assumed that Ermengarde was a different person from “Ermessindis” who is recorded as Aimery´s wife in 1130 (see below). It appears unlikely there would be confusion between the two names in contemporary sources as the roots for the second part of the two names are different. It is possible that Ermengarde was related to the vicomtes de Béziers as the testament of “Raymundo Trencavelli vicecomite”, dated 21 Apr 1154, names “Hermengardæ de Narbona meæ consanguineæ“[1061], and no other relationship between the two families has yet been identified. The necrology of the abbey of Quarante records the death "Kal Mai" of "Hermengardis vicecomitissa Narbonensis"[1062]. As this date is inconsistent with the date of death of her daughter Ermengarde, as reported in other sources, it is possible that this entry refers to the first wife of Vicomte Aimery [II].
     "m secondly ERMESINDE, daughter of --- (-after 19 Jan 1130). “Aymericus Narbonæ et uxor mea Ermessindis vicecomitissa et filius meus Aymericus” granted property to “Geraldo de Condomo et uxori tuæ Garsindæ” by charter dated 19 Jan 1130[1063]."
Med Lands cites:
[1055] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 411, col. 772.
[1056] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 2nd Edn. Tome IV, Preuves, VII, p. 346.
[1057] Els Testaments, 11, p. 92.
[1058] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 2nd Edn. Tome IV, Preuves, LXXIX, p. 407, and 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 510, col. 966.
[1059] Chronica Adefonsi imperatoris I, 57, p. 188.
[1060] Grasse 195, p. 257.
[1061] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 2nd Edn. Tome IV, Preuves, CLIV, p. 474.
[1062] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 2nd Edn. Tome II, Preuves, CXXI, p. 681.
[1063] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 2nd Edn. Tome IV, Preuves, LXXIX, p. 407, and 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 510, col. 966.4


; Per Genealogics:
     "Aimeri was the eldest son of Aimeri I, vicomte de Narbonne, and Maud de Hauteville. His mother was the widow of Raimund Berengar II-III, conde de Barcelona, making him a half-brother of Ramon Berenguer III el Grande, conde de Barcelona, Provence & Carcassonne. He initially ruled as a minor under the regency of his mother. After he came of age he married Ermengarde, with whom he had two children. With his second wife Hermisende he had a daughter Ermesenda who would have progeny, marrying Manrique Perez de Lara, 1.lord of Molina, who became vicomte de Narbonne in her name after Aimeri's death.
     "Probably in 1112 or 1113 Aimeri received the Fenouillèdes and the Peyrepertusès from his half-brother in return for swearing an oath of fealty against Bernard Atton IV, vicomte d'Albi, de Nimes et Carcassonne, with whom Ramon Berenguer was at war. The lords of the Fenouillèdes and the Peyrepertusès remained vassals of Narbonne until the Albigensian Crusade and the viscounts of Narbonne took the lordship of Rouffiac near Peyrepertusès into their own hands. When Doulce de Gevaudan, heiress of Provence, died and her husband Ramon Berenguer claimed the county of Provence, Aimeri received the fief of Beaucaire and the terre d'Argence near the mouth of the Rhône in Provence.
     "Sometime during his rule, Aimeri granted the merchants of Narbonne the right to form a consulate in imitation of Genoa. Probably he saw the self-organisation of his merchants and their formation of a military in their own defence as an aid to his own rule so long as the consulate remained under vice-comital control, which in the end it did not. Aimeri also participated in 1114-15 in the Balearic Islands expedition led by the Republic of Pisa and Ramon Berenguer.
     "In 1114 Aimeri put an end to conflicting claims in the village of Le Lac on the Via Domitia by transferring his rights there to the abbey of Lagrasse in return for a large loan of gold and silver. He also entered into a conflict with his cousin Richard de Millau, archbishop of Narbonne, who may have been a compromise candidate between Aimeri and the pope for the archiepiscopal throne. Richard claimed that Aimeri _fecit mihi hominium propriis manibus_ ('did homage to (him) with his own hands') received _fedovia_ ('fiefs' from the Church 'in the presence of the universal synod of the province of Narbonne.' The archbishop accused Aimeri of deceiving him concerning the extent of the Church's fiefs and attempting to hold land as his by inheritance which was his by grant of the Church; he also accused Aimeri of withholding revenues from taxes and imposts that should have gone to the Church. Aimeri was recorded to have even abused church property violently and there were disputes concerning who controlled the towers of the city walls. The whole dispute lasted a long time, but Aimeri was made to come to terms by the papacy's support of Richard. In the end he had to swear oaths of fealty to the archbishop, recognise the archbishop's independent temporal lordship, and concede that some of the rights he held in the city of Narbonne constituted a fief of the archbishopric.
     "In 1123 Bernard Atton IV declared war on Aimeri, who responded by razing the castle _pro justicia,_ ('out of justice') at Montséret, which had been held by Aimeri's vassal Bernard Amati until he had treacherously turned it over to Bernard Atton. Not long after this Aimeri turned towards Iberia and joined the _Reconquista_ being waged by Alfonso I 'the Battler', king of Aragón, in the Ebro valley.
     "In July 1131 Aimeri was at the deathbed of his half-brother to witness his final testament, of which he was to be the executor. Aimeri died in battle on 17 July 1134 before the walls of the Moorish city of Fraga, which Alfonso had been besieging."5

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 52.
2. Biogr. details drawn from Wikipedia.5


; Per Stasser email [2003]:
     "Viscount Aimery II of Narbonne had by his first wife Ermengarde a son, Aimery, who died young, and a daughter, Ermengarde, who inherited Narbonne. By his 2nd wife Ermessinde, he had another daughter, Ermessinde, mar to Manrique Perez of Lara.
     "Viscount Aimery II was the eldest son of viscount Aimery I of Narbonne by his wife Mathilde, 2nd daughter of Robert Guiscard of hauteville, duke of Apulia and Calabria, prince of Salerno and duke of Amalfi, by his 2nd wife Sichelgaita, dau of Prince Gaimar IV of Salerno by his 2nd wife Gemma, dau of a count Laidulf, presumably of Teano."2 Aimera/Aimerico II (?) Vicomte de Narbonne was also known as Aimery/Aimeri II (?) Vicomte de Narbone.5

; Per Wikipedia:
     "Aimery II (also called Aimeric II) (died 17 July 1134) was the Viscount of Narbonne from around 1106 until his death.
     "He was the eldest son of Aimery I of Narbonne and Mahalt (also Mahault or Mafalda), daughter of Robert Guiscard and Sichelgaita and widow of Raymond Berengar II of Barcelona.[1] This made him a half-brother of Raymond Berengar III. He initially ruled as a minor under the regency of his mother.[2] After he came of age he married Ermengard.
     "Probably in 1112 or 1113, Aimery received the Fenouillèdes and the Peyrepertusès from his half-brother in return for swearing an oath of fealty against Bernard Ato IV of Béziers, with whom Raymond Berengar was at war.[3] The lords of the Fenouillèdes and the Peyrepertuseès remained vassals of Narbonne until the Albigensian Crusade and the viscounts of Narbonne took the lordship of Rouffiac near Peyrepertuse into their own hands. When Douce I, Countess of Provence died and Raymond Berengar claimed the County of Provence, Aimery received the fief of Beaucaire and the terre d'Argence near the mouth of the Rhône in Provence.[4]
     "Sometime during his rule, Aimery granted the merchants of Narbonne the right to form a consulate in imitation of Genoa. Probably he saw the self-organisation of his merchants and their formation of a military in their own defence as an aid to his own rule so long as the consulate remained under vicecomital control, which in the end it did not.[5] Aimery also participated in 1114–15 in the Balearic Islands expedition led by the Republic of Pisa and Raymond Berengar.
     "In 1114, Aimery put an end to conflicting claims in the village of Le Lac on the Via Domitia by transferring his rights there to the abbey of Lagrasse in return for a large loan of gold and silver.[3] He also entered into a conflict with his cousin Richard de Millau, Archbishop of Narbonne, who may have been a compromise candidate between Aimery and the pope for the archiepiscopal throne.[6] Richard claimed that Aimery fecit mihi hominium propriis manibus ("did homage to [him] with his own hands") received fedovia ("fiefs") from the Church "in the presence of the universal synod of the province of Narbonne."[7] The archbishop accused Aimery of deceiving him concerning the extent of the Church's fiefs and attempting to hold land as his by inheritance which was his by grant of the Church; he also accused Aimery of withholding revenues from taxes and imposts that should have gone to the Church.[8] Aimery was recorded to have even abused church property violently and there were disputes concerning who controlled the towers on the city walls. The whole dispute lasted a long time, but Aimery was made to come to terms by the Papacy's support of Richard.[9] In the end, he had to swear oaths of fealty to the archbishop, recognise the archbishop's independent temporal lordship, and concede that some of the rights he held in the city of Narbonne constituted a fief of the archbishopric.[9]
     "In 1124, Bernard Ato of Béziers declared war on Aimery, who responded by razing the castle (pro justicia, "out of justice") at Montséret, which had been held by Aimery's vassal Bernard Amati until he had treacherously turned it over to Bernard Ato.[10] Not long after this Aimery turned towards Iberia and joined the Reconquista being waged by Alfonso the Battler in the Ebro valley.
     "In July 1131, Aimery was at the deathbed of his half-brother to witness his final testament, of which he was to be the executor.[4] Aimery died in battle before the walls of the Moorish city of Fraga, which Alfonso had been besieging.[11] Aimery had a son and a daughter by Ermengard; the son, Aimery, predeceased him (ca. 1130), and he was succeeded by his daughter Ermengard, who was only four or five at the time. He married a second time to a woman named Ermessende and left by her a daughter of the same name. This second daughter, Ermessende, married before 1153 a great Castilian magnate, Manrique Pérez de Lara, lord of Molina.
Sources
** Cheyette, Fredric L. Ermengard of Narbonne and the World of the Troubadours. Ithaca: Cornell University Press, 2001.
Notes
1. Cheyette, 15.
2. Cheyette, 211–212.
3. Cheyette, 77 and n31.
4. Cheyette, 86.
5. Cheyette, 100.
6. Cheyette, 208.
7. Cheyette, 207.
8. Cheyette, 209–210.
9. Cheyette, 108–109.
10. Cheyette, 205.
11. Cheyette, 21."


Per Wikipédia (Fr.):
     "Aymeri2 II de Narbonne, vicomte de Narbonne de 1105 à 1134, tué à la bataille de Fraga, en Espagne, le 17 juillet 1134, a été le principal allié en Occitanie de son demi-frère, Raimond Bérenger III, comte de Barcelone, au cours des guerres menées par ce dernier contre le comte de Toulouse, Alphonse Jourdain et les Trencavel.
Résumé biographique
     "Aymeri est l’aîné des quatre fils nés du vicomte Aymeri Ier de Narbonne et de Mahaut, fille de Robert Guiscard et veuve de Raimond Bérenger II de Barcelone. Il succède à son père après la mort de celui-ci en Terre Sainte, en 1104-1105.
     "Entre avril 1111 et juin 1112, son demi-frère, le comte de Barcelone Raimond Bérenger III, lui inféode le Fenouillèdes et le Peyrepertusès en échange de son appui militaire dans la guerre que le comte mène alors contre Bernard Aton IV3.
     "C'est aussi probablement en raison de l'aide que le vicomte fourni à son frère dans la guerre que celui-ci mène contre le comte Alphonse Jourdain de Toulouse pour le contrôle de la Provence que Raimond Bérenger inféode à Aymeri Beaucaire et la terre d'Argence4. Selon les termes du traité de paix négocié entre les comtes de Barcelone et de Toulouse pour le partage de la Provence, traité signé le 16 septembre 1125 et auquel souscrit le vicomte de Narbonne à titre de témoin, Raimond Bérenger cède à Alphonse Beaucaire et la terre d'Argence. Le vicomte Aymeri tiendra ces possessions en fief du comte de Toulouse, et Bernard d'Anduze les tiendra en fief du vicomte5.
     "En 1114, Aymeri participe à l'expédition menée par le comte de Barcelone et la République de Pise contre les îles Baléares, alors aux mains des musulmans. Le Liber maiolichinus (en) rapporte la participation à cette expédition (en) des plus grands seigneurs occitans : Guilhem V de Montpellier et Aymeri II de Narbonne, avec 20 navires chacun, Raymond des Baux, avec sept navires.
     "Aimeri II est tué le 17 juillet 1134 lors de la bataille de Fraga en combattant les Almoravides aux côtés d'Alphonse le Batailleur, roi d'Aragon.
     "Il est inhumé dans l'abbaye de Lagrasse, dont son frère Bérenger était alors abbé6.
     "Ermengarde, l'aînée de ses filles, lui succède.
Mariages et enfants
Ermengarde de Servian et sa descendance
     "La première épouse du vicomte, Ermengarde, est attestée à ses côtés pour la première fois dans une charte du 26 mai 1114 et disparaît des documents après le 15 mars 11267,8. L’apparition d’une nouvelle femme aux côtés d’Aymeri en 1130 pouvait laisser supposer aux historiens la mort d’Ermengarde entre ces deux dates8. La médiéviste Jacqueline Caille a cependant signalé en 20051 la découverte du résumé d’un acte daté de 1152, par lequel Ermengarde de Servian, du conseil d’Ermengarde, vicomtesse de Narbonne, sa fille, et de R. Étienne de Servian, son neveu, donne l’étang de Colobricis9 au prieuré de Cassan. Caille en conclut que la première épouse d’Aymeri n’est pas morte entre 1126 et 1130, mais a plutôt été répudiée1. La famille de Servian, à laquelle appartient cette Ermengarde, s’affirme à partir de la fin du xie siècle comme l’une des plus puissantes de la noblesse biterroise, immédiatement après les vicomtes de Béziers (la famille Trencavel) et les seigneurs de Montpellier10. La vicomtesse pourrait être la sœur d'Étienne de Servian, connu de 1103 à 1112, et la tante de Raymond Étienne de Servian (le neveu cité dans l'acte de 1152), attesté de 1127 à 11581,11. Sa répudiation pourrait peut-être s'expliquer, selon J. Caille, par le retour en grâce des seigneurs de Servian auprès des vicomtes Trencavel, avec qui Aymeri II a eu de nombreux différends1.
     "Ermengarde de Servian est la mère des trois premiers enfants connus du vicomte de Narbonne, deux fils et une fille. Les deux fils, attestés dans diverses chartes du vivant de son époux, sont morts avant ce dernier : l’aîné, portant le prénom dynastique d’Aymeri comme son père et son grand-père, apparaît dans trois documents entre 1126 et 1132; un acte de juin 1131 par lequel le vicomte s’engage avec ses fils prouve qu’ils étaient par ailleurs au moins deux à cette date. Sa fille, prénommée Ermengarde comme sa mère, est, selon une chronique juive écrite vers 1160-1161, la troisième enfant du vicomte et lui succède à sa mort en 113412.
Ermessinde et sa fille
     "La seconde femme d’Aymeri II, Ermessinde, épousée après la répudiation d’Ermengarde de Servian, paraît dans un seul acte du 19 janvier 1130. Sa famille est inconnue, mais son prénom a conduit les historiens à supposer qu'elle était la mère de la deuxième fille du vicomte, également baptisée Ermessinde13,14.
     "Cette seconde fille, Ermessinde de Narbonne, morte en janvier 1177, est mariée vers 1152-1153 à un grand noble castillan, le comte Manrique de Lara († 1164), seigneur de Molina et membre de l'une des plus puissantes familles du royaume de Castille. Parmi ses nombreux enfants, Aymeri († 1177) et Pedro Manrique de Lara († 1202) sont tour à tour désignés comme héritiers de leur tante la vicomtesse Ermengarde de Narbonne (demi-sœur aînée d’Ermessinde), dépourvue de descendance. Pedro devient vicomte de Narbonne en 1192, fondant la seconde branche des vicomtes de Narbonne qui s'éteindra au xve siècle avec Guillaume II.
Premiers contacts de Narbonne avec les troubadours
     "C'est au temps d'Aymeri II que Narbonne est associée pour la première fois avec la lyrique des troubadours, association qui semble remonter aux premiers temps du mouvement, puisqu'elle est l’une des seules cours explicitement mentionnées, avec Poitiers et Ventadour, dans les vers de Guillaume IX d'Aquitaine (1086-1127), le premier troubadour dont les chansons ont été conservées15,16. La première des deux tornadas (envoi) de la chanson du prince-troubadour Pus vezem de novelh florir est adressée à Narbonne et demande de confirmer la bonne qualité de la chanson. Pour le romaniste Walter Meliga, cet envoi fait entrevoir l'existence d'un milieu de passionnés de poésie à Narbonne17 dès cette époque.
     "Guillaume de Poitiers
     "Pus vezem de novelh florir vers 37-46 [18]
Del vers vos dic que mais ne vau
Qui be l'enten, e n'a plus lau:
Que-ls motz son faitz tug per egau
Comunalmens,
E-l sonetz, ieu meteus m'en lau,
Bos e valens.
A Narbona, mas ieu no-i vau,
Sia-l prezens
Mos vers, e vueill que d'aquest lau
Sia guirens.

     "Traduction de Alfred Jeanroy18
     "Je vous dis, au sujet de ce « vers », que celui-là en vaut davantage et mérite plus de louanges qui le comprend et en jouit le mieux ; car tous les couplets sont exactement réglés sur la même mesure, et la mélodie, j'ai le droit de m'en vanter, en est bonne et belle.
     "Que ce « vers » aille à Narbonne, puisque je n'y vais pas ; qu'il lui soit présenté, et je veux que de cet éloge il me soit garant.

     "Traduction de Alexander Kiriyatskiy19
Le vers vous chante, celui en vaut
Entend la mélodie des mots,
Que les plaisirs, couplets égaux,
Fassent la mesure
L'éloge vante et fait les sons beaux
Des chanteurs sûrs.
Qu'à Narbonne, je n'y vais pas,
Soit désiré
Mon vers, que mon éloge là-bas
Me soit gardé.

     "Cet intérêt de Narbonne pour la poésie des troubadours connaîtra par la suite son apogée sous le règne de la fille du vicomte, Ermengarde.
Références
Bibliographie
** Jacqueline Caille, « Les seigneurs de Narbonne dans le conflit Toulouse-Barcelone au xiie siècle », Annales du Midi, vol. 97, no 171,? juillet-septembre 1985, p. 227-244. (ISSN 0003-4398, lire en ligne [archive])
** Jacqueline Caille, « Ermengarde, vicomtesse de Narbonne (1127/29-1196/97), une grande figure féminine du Midi aristocratique », dans La Femme dans l'histoire et la société méridionales (IXe-XIXe siècles). Actes du 66e congrès de la Fédération historique du Languedoc méditerranéen et du Roussillon (Narbonne, 15-16 octobre 1994), Montpellier, 1995 (ISBN 2900041198 et 9782900041192), p. 9-50 [télécharger [archive]].
** (en) Jacqueline Caille, Medieval Narbonne: A City at the Heart of the Troubadour World, Aldershot, Ashgate, coll. « Variorum Collected Studies Series », 2005, 416 p. (ISBN 978-0-86078-914-7, présentation en ligne [archive])
** Réédition en recueil de 15 articles de Jacqueline Caille portant sur l'histoire médiévale de Narbonne
** Guillaume Catel, Mémoires de l'histoire du Languedoc, Toulouse, Pierre Bosc / Arnaud Colomiez, 1633.
** [Lire en ligne ou télécharger [archive]] sur Gallica — [Lire en ligne ou télécharger [archive]] sur Google Livres — [Télécharger [archive]] sur Tolosana
** Fredric L. Cheyette (trad. Aude Carlier), Ermengarde de Narbonne et le monde des troubadours, Paris, Perrin, 2006, 538 p. (ISBN 978-2-262-02437-6, présentation en ligne [archive])
** Hélène Débax, « À propos d'une figure du fief en Languedoc au début du xiie siècle : les accords de 1112 entre Ramon Berenguer III et Bernard Aton IV », dans Hélène Débax, éd., Les Sociétés méridionales à l'âge féodal Espagne, Italie et sud de la France, Xe-XIIIe s.) : Hommage à Pierre Bonnassie, Toulouse, Université de Toulouse-Le Mirail, 1999 (ISBN 2912025036 et 9782912025036), p. 325-330.
** Claude Devic, Joseph Vaissète et al., Histoire générale de Languedoc, vol. 3 : 878-1165, Toulouse, Privat, 1872, 3e éd. (1re éd. 1737) (lire en ligne [archive])
Notes
1. Caille 2005, Addenda and Corrigenda, p. 6.
2. Aussi orthographié Aimery, Aimeri, Aimeric, Aymeric, etc.
3. Débax 1999, p. 327-328.
4. Cheyette 2006, p. 111.
5. Histoire générale de Languedoc, tome 3, p. 661-663.
6. Claudine Pailhès, éd. Recueil des chartes de l'abbaye de La Grasse, tome II : 1117-1279, Paris, Éditions du Comité des travaux historiques et scientifiques, 2000, p. XLVII. [lire en ligne [archive]]
7. Caille 1985, p. 230.
8. Caille 1995, p. 10.
9. Archives départementales de l’Hérault, cote G55, Inventaire Guinard daté de 1643, folio 173 (analyse en latin) : Ermengardis de Cerviano, consilio Ermengardis vicecomitissae Narbonae filiae suae et R. Stephani de Cerviano ejus nepotis donavit ei stagnum de Colobricis, cité par Caille 2005, Addenda and Corrigenda, p. 6.
10. Claudie Duhamel-Amado, Genèse des lignages méridionaux, Tome 1 : L'aristocratie languedocienne du Xe au xiie siècle, Toulouse, CNRS / Université de Toulouse-Le Mirail, 2001, p. 163-164.
11. Claudie Duhamel-Amado, Genèse des lignages méridionaux, Tome 2 : Portraits de familles, Toulouse, CNRS / Université de Toulouse-Le Mirail, 2007, p. 130-131 et tableau généalogique, p. 136.
12. Caille 1995, p. 9-10.
13. Caille 1995, p. 10-11.
14. Histoire générale de Languedoc, tome 3, p. 691-692
15. Joseph Anglade, « Les troubadours à Narbonne », Romanische Forschungen, vol. 23, no 2,? 1907, p. 737-738 (ISSN 0035-8126)[lire en ligne [archive]]
16. Ruth Harvey, « Courtly Culture in Medieval Occitania », dans Simon Gaunt et Sarah Kay, éd. The Troubadours : An Introduction, Cambridge / New York, Cambridge University Press, 1999, p. 15. [télécharger [archive]]
17. Walter Meliga, « L'Aquitaine des premiers troubadours. Géographie et histoire des origines troubadouresques », dans Jean-Yves Casanova et Valérie Fasseur (dir.), L'Aquitaine des littératures médiévales, Paris, Presses universitaires de Paris-Sorbonne, 2011, p. 48.[lire en ligne (pagination différente) [archive]]
18. Alfred Jeanroy, Les chansons de Guillaume IX, duc d'Aquitaine (1071-1127), Paris, Champion, 1913, p. 18-19 [lire en ligne [archive]]
19. Alexander Kiriyatskiy, 10 poèmes du premier troubadour Guiillaume IX duc d'Aquitaine (1071-1127) [archive], page consultée le 17 octobre 2013."8,7 He was Vicomte de Narbonne between 1105 and 1134.7

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Child

Citations

  1. [S1434] Simon Barton, The Aristocracy in Twelfth-Century Leon and Castile (Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press, 1997), p. 264. Hereinafter cited as Barton [1997] Aristocracy in 12th Cent Leon & Castile.
  2. [S1463] Thierry Stasser, "Stasser email "Re: Aimeri de Narbonne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/t-7jjfjHxVo/m/4YzombalQZ0J) to e-mail address, 16 August 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Stasser email 16 August 2003."
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aimeri I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120312&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/TOULOUSE%20NOBILITY.htm#AmauryINarbonnedied1105. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aimeri II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197720&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud|Mafalda|Maaltis de Hauteville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026530&tree=LEO
  7. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Aymeri II de Narbonne: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aymeri_II_de_Narbonne. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  8. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aimery_II_of_Narbonne. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  9. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/TOULOUSE%20NOBILITY.htm#ErmesindeNarbonnedied1175
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermesenda de Narbonne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00126920&tree=LEO

Hermensinde (?)

F, #19443
Last Edited6 Oct 2020

Family

Aimera/Aimerico II (?) Vicomte de Narbonne b. c 1087, d. 17 Jul 1134
Child

Citations

  1. [S1463] Thierry Stasser, "Stasser email "Re: Aimeri de Narbonne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/t-7jjfjHxVo/m/4YzombalQZ0J) to e-mail address, 16 August 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Stasser email 16 August 2003."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aimeri II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197720&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/TOULOUSE%20NOBILITY.htm#AmauryINarbonnedied1105. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/TOULOUSE%20NOBILITY.htm#ErmesindeNarbonnedied1175
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermesenda de Narbonne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00126920&tree=LEO

Aimeri I (?) Vicomte de Narbonne1

M, #19444, d. 1105
FatherBernard Berenguer (?) Vicomte de Narbonne2,1,3,4 d. b 1077
MotherFoi/Fides de Rouerge Vctss de Narbonne2,1,4
Last Edited6 Oct 2020
     Aimeri I (?) Vicomte de Narbonne married Mathilda/Maud/Mafalda/Maaltis de Hauteville, daughter of Robert I "Guiscard/Weasel" de Hauteville Count then Duke of Apulia, Calabria, and Sicily, Pr of Salerno and Sichelgaita/Sigelgaita (?) Princess of Salerno, circa 1085;
Her 2nd husband.5,1,6,7,8,9,4
Aimeri I (?) Vicomte de Narbonne died in 1105 at Palestine/Syria; died on crusade in Palestine.1,6,7,4
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: II 205.
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 52.10


; Per Med Lands:
     "AIMERY [I] de Narbonne, son of BERNARD Vicomte de Narbonne & his wife Fides [Foi] de Rouergue (-Syria [1105/06]). His parentage is confirmed by a charter dated 7 May 1080 which records a hearing at Narbonne in the presence of "domnus Petrus electus atque patronus eiusdem ecclesie et vicecomes Narbonensis…Aymericus nepos præscripti Petri…cum fratre suo Hugone et Berengario"[1042]. Vicomte de Narbonne. "Petrus electus primæ sedis Narbonæ et Aymericus et Ugo et Berengarius fratres, nepotes mei" donated property to the abbey of Narbonne Saint-Paul by charter dated 1 Jun 1080[1043]. "Petrus Rutenensis episcopus et nepos meus Aymericus" donated property to Narbonne cathedral, for the souls of "patris mei Berengarii et matris meæ Garsindis et fratris mei Bernardi Berengarii patris Aymerici præscripti", by charter dated 13 Mar 1089[1044]. "Aimericus…vicecomes Narbone…et uxor mea Mealtis…et filiorum eius" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Martial on leaving for the Holy Land, by charter dated [1100/01][1045]. A charter dated 7 Feb 1102 names "Berengarii monachi Sancti Pontii et…patris sui domini Haymerici vicecomitis Narbonensis et uxoris eius…Matta filiorumque eorum…Aymericus, Giscardus et Bernardus"[1046]. "Aymericus…vicecomes Narbonensis…cum uxore mea…Mahalda et filiis nostris…Aymericus, Guiscardus et Bernardus Raymundi" donated property to Saint-Pons de Thomières, for the souls of "patris mei Bernardi et…avi mei Berengarii et Petri Berengarii avunculi mei", for "Berengarii filii nostri" on his becoming a monk at the monastery, by charter dated 29 Apr 1103[1047].
     "m ([1085/87]) as her second husband, MATHILDE of Apulia, widow of RAMÓN BERENGUER II "Cabeza le Estopa/Cap d'Estopes" Conde de Barcelona, daughter of ROBERT "Guiscard" Duke of Apulia & his second wife Sichelgaita di Salerno ([1059]-after 6 Jun 1112, bur Girona). Mathilde was the oldest daughter of Robert "Guiscard" according to William of Apulia[1048]. The Alexeiad records that Robert "Guiscard" betrothed "one daughter to Raymond, son of the Count Barcinon" but does not name her[1049]. She was known as MAHALTA in Catalonia. She was strongly supported by Guillem Ramón Seneschal of Catalonia and his brothers after the murder of her first husband. Her second marriage is deduced from the testament of her son by her first marriage "Raimundus Berengarii…Barchinonensis comes et marchio", dated [8 Jul] 1130, which appoints "Aimericum fratrem meum" as one of the testator's manumissores[1050]. "Aimericus…vicecomes Narbone…et uxor mea Mealtis…et filiorum eius" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Martial on leaving for the Holy Land, by charter dated [1100/01][1051]. A charter dated 7 Feb 1102 names "domini Haymerici vicecomitis Narbonensis et uxoris eius…Matta filiorumque eorum…Aymericus, Giscardus et Bernardus"[1052]. "Aymericus…vicecomes Narbonensis…cum uxore mea…Mahalda et filiis nostris…Aymericus, Guiscardus et Bernardus Raymundi" donated property to Saint-Pons de Thomières for "Berengarii filii nostri" on his becoming a monk at the monastery by charter dated 29 Apr 1103[1053]. Ramon Berenguer and his mother Mahalta issued a charter dated 6 Jun 1112[1054]."
Med Lands cites:
[1042] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 339, col. 656.
[1043] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 341, col. 660.
[1044] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 374, col. 711.
[1045] DHML, Tome I, V, p. 125.
[1046] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 411, col. 772.
[1047] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 417, col. 785.
[1048] William of Apulia, Book IV, p. 1, Book IV, p. 1.
[1049] Sewter, E. R. A. (trans.) (1969) Anna Comnena The Alexiad (Penguin Books), Book 1, p. 61.
[1050] Els Testaments, 11, p. 92.
[1051] DHML, Tome I, V, p. 125.
[1052] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 411, col. 772.
[1053] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 417, col. 785.
[1054] Bofarull y Mascaró (1836) Tomo II, p. 128, citing Real Archivo, n. 150 de la colección del 11 Conde D. Ramon Berenguer III.4


; Per Wikipédia (Fr.):
     "Aymeri Ier de Narbonne, mort en Terre Sainte en 1105, a été vicomte de Narbonne de 1071 au plus tard jusqu'à sa mort.
Biographie
     "Sans doute encore jeune lorsque meurt son père, le vicomte Bernard, les premières années d'Aymeri à la tête de la vicomté s'effectuent à l'ombre de son oncle, Pierre, qui assure sa mainmise sur Narbonne à la fois comme vicomte, dont il prend le titre, et comme archevêque élu de la cité (1079-1085/6), malgré l’opposition du pape et de ses légats. Le gouvernement d’Aymeri Ier est surtout marqué par ses affrontements avec les archevêques Dalmace et Bertrand pour le contrôle de Narbonne.
     "D'après un acte disparu auquel il est fait allusion dans des documents postérieurs, Aymeri Ier aurait autorisé en 1093 un groupe de moines bénédictins à s'installer dans la forêt de Fontfroide1, point de départ modeste de ce qui allait plus tard devenir l'un des plus puissants monastères de la région, l’abbaye cistercienne de Fontfroide.
     "Parti en Terre Sainte vers 1103, le vicomte Aymeri Ier y meurt peu après. Son fils aîné Aymeri II lui succède.
     "Il est le premier vicomte narbonnais à porter le prénom dynastique d’Aymeri, marqueur lignager qui va se perpétuer chez ses successeurs jusqu’à la fin du xive siècle2. L'adoption de ce prénom au sein de la famille vicomtale de Narbonne a suscité chez les spécialistes de la littérature médiévale une controverse concernant ses liens éventuels avec le héros épique Aymeri de Narbonne3.
Mariage et descendance
     "Entre 1085 et 1087, il épouse Mahaut de Pouille, fille de Robert Guiscard, duc de Pouille, veuve de Raimond Bérenger II, comte de Barcelone, de qui il eut :
** Aymeri II (mort en 1134), vicomte de Narbonne, son successeur;
** Bernard, dit aussi Bernard Raimond (attesté en 1103);
** Guiscard (attesté en 1103);
** Bérenger (mort en 1162), d'abord moine à l'abbaye de Saint-Pons-de-Thomières (1103), puis abbé de Lagrasse (1114/1117-1156) et archevêque de Narbonne (1156-1162)

     "Le couple eut peut-être aussi une fille. La rubrique d'un acte aujourd'hui perdu du Liber feudorum maior évoque le mariage entre un vicomte du nom de Pierre et Mabilia (Amibilia), sœur du comte Raimond Bérenger III de Barcelone, le fils né du premier mariage de Mahaut4. Comme l'acte en lui-même est perdu et qu'aucun autre document ne mentionne cette Mabilia, les généalogistes et les historiens en sont réduits aux hypothèses. Mabilia pourrait être née de l'un ou l'autre des mariages de Mahaut avec Raimond Bérenger II de Barcelone ou le vicomte de Narbonne4.
Bibliographie
** Jacqueline Caille, « Vicomtes et vicomté de Narbonne des origines au début du xiiie siècle », dans Hélène Débax, éd., Vicomtes et vicomtés dans l’Occident médiéval, Toulouse, Presses universitaires du Mirail, 2008 (ISBN 978-2-85816-942-9), p. 47-60 et annexe CD, p. 37-52 [présentation en ligne [archive]]
[Consulter en ligne (extraits, Google Livres) [archive]]
Notes
1. François Grèzes-Rueff, « L'abbaye de Fontfroide et son domaine foncier aux XIIe et XIIIe siècles », Annales du Midi, vol. 89,? 1977, p. 255-256. (ISSN 0003-4398, lire en ligne [archive]).
2. Caille 2008, p. 59
3. Voir notamment Rita Lejeune, « La question de l'historicité du héros épique Aimeri de Narbonne », dans Économies et sociétés au Moyen Âge : Mélanges offerts à Édouard Perroy, Paris, Publications de la Sorbonne, 1973, p. 50-62.
4. Martin Aurell, « Du nouveau sur les comtesses catalanes (IXe-XIIe siècles) », Annales du Midi, vol. 109, nos 219-220,? 1997, p. 372 (lire en ligne [archive])"

[See Note Per Med Lands].11

; Per Stasser email [2003]: "Aimey I of Narbonne was the son of Viscount Bernard Berenger by his wife Fides, who may have been the dau of Count Hugues of Rouergue"

[See Note Per Med Lands].2

; Per Genealogy.EU: "B7. [2m.] Mathilde; 1m: 1078 Raymond Berenguar II of Barcelona; 2m: 1083 Aymeric I de Narbonne."12
; Per Stasser email [2003]: "dans l'article 027c01c36266$6f591080$78f4fea9@old, Leo van de Pas à leov...@bigpond.com a écrit le 14/08/03 15:30 :
- hide quoted text -
> Before 1265 Sybille de Foix married Aimery Vicomte de Narbonne.
>
> Does anyone know whether he was Aimery IV or Aimery VI and can anyone help me with his ancestor list?
     "Aimery IV of Narbonne married Sibylle, dau of Roger IV count of Foix and Brunissende of Cardonna
     "He died in october 1298, and was the son of Amaury I,viscount of narbonne, by Philippa, dau of Pierre Bermond of Sauve and Anduze, and Gauceranne of Poitiers
     "Amaury I of Narbonne was the second son of Aimery III by his 2nd wife Marguerite, dau of Mathieu of Montmorency, lord of Marly, and Mathilde of Garlande
     "Aimery III of Narbonne was the son of Pierre Manrique of Lara, viscount of narbonne, by his 1st wife sancia, dau of King Garcia V of Navarra, and his 2nd wife Sancia of Castilla
     "Pierre Manrique of Lara was the 2nd son of Manrique Perez of Lara by Ermessinde, 2nd dau of Viscount Aimery II of Narbonne
     "Viscount Aimery II of Narbonne had by his first wife Ermengarde a son, Aimery, who died young, and a daughter, Ermengarde, who inherited Narbonne. By his 2nd wife Ermessinde, he had another daughter, Ermessinde, mar to Manrique Perez of Lara
     "Viscount Aimery II was the eldest son of viscount Aimery I of Narbonne by his wife Mathilde, 2nd daughter of Robert Guiscard of hauteville, duke of Apulia and Calabria, prince of Salerno and duke of Amalfi, by his 2nd wife Sichelgaita, dau of Prince Gaimar IV of Salerno by his 2nd wife Gemma, dau of a count Laidulf, presumably of Teano
     "Aimey I of Narbonne was the son of Viscount Bernard Berenger by his wife Fides, who may have been the dau of Count Hugues of Rouergue
     "Bernard Berenger of Narbonne was the 2nd son of Viscount Berenger by garsinde, dau of Count Bernard I of Besalu and Tota/Adelaide, presumably dau of Raymond count of Toulouse and Adelaide of Anjou
     "Berenger of Narbonne was the son of Viscount Raymond I of Narbonne by his wife Ricarda, presumably dau of Berenger I of Millau
     "Raymond I of Narbonne was the son of Viscount Matfred by his wife Adelaide, dau of Arnaud count of Carcassonne and Arsinde of Rouergue
     "Matfred of Narbonne was the son of viscount Eudes by his wife Richilde, dau of Guifred II of Barcelona and his wife Garsinde
     "Eudes of narbonne was the son of viscount Franco by his wife Arsinde, presumably dau of either Raymond I of Toulouse and his wife Bertheiz, or of Eudes of Toulouse and his wife Garsinde
I hope this helps, Thierry”.13 He was vicomte de Narbonne between 1071 and 1105.11

Family

Mathilda/Maud/Mafalda/Maaltis de Hauteville b. bt 1059 - 1060, d. c 19 Sep 1112
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aimeri I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120312&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1463] Thierry Stasser, "Stasser email "Re: Aimeri de Narbonne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/t-7jjfjHxVo/m/4YzombalQZ0J) to e-mail address, 16 August 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Stasser email 16 August 2003."
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/TOULOUSE%20NOBILITY.htm#BernardNarbonnedied1077. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/TOULOUSE%20NOBILITY.htm#AmauryINarbonnedied1105
  5. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Hautvle page (de Hauteville): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/italy/hautvle.html
  6. [S1768] Thierry Stasser, "Stasser email 31 Aug 2005 "Re: Children of Robert Guiscard and Sikelgaita"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/z4ODwK98jjs/m/5BxUDWlyvxcJ) to e-mail address, 31 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Stasser email 31 Aug 2005."
  7. [S2128] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 24 Jan 2007: "Ancestry of Matilda of Apulia: the dukes of Naples"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/HBUMZ5AmysI/m/f-6WOFrSFgIJ) to e-mail address, 24 Jan 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 24 Jan 2007."
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud|Mafalda|Maaltis de Hauteville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026530&tree=LEO
  9. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SICILY.htm#Mathildediedafter1085
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aimeri I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120312&tree=LEO
  11. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Aymeri Ier de Narbonne: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aymeri_Ier_de_Narbonne. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  12. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, de Hauteville: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/italy/hautvle.html
  13. [S1463] Thierry Stasser, "Stasser email 16 August 2003," e-mail to e-mail address, 16 August 2003, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/soc.genealogy.medieval/t-7jjfjHxVo/4YzombalQZ0J;context-place=forum/soc.genealogy.medieval.
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aimeri II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197720&tree=LEO

Bernard Berenguer (?) Vicomte de Narbonne1

M, #19445, d. before 1077
FatherBerenguer I (?) Vicomte de Narbonne1,2,3 b. 979, d. a 5 Feb 1067
MotherGersinde (?) de Besalu3,2 b. 981
Last Edited6 Oct 2020
     Bernard Berenguer (?) Vicomte de Narbonne married Foi/Fides de Rouerge Vctss de Narbonne, daughter of Hugues (?) Comte de Rouerge et de Gevaudun and Foi/Fides (?) de Cerdagne.4,3
Bernard Berenguer (?) Vicomte de Narbonne died before 1077.3
     ; Per Stasser email [2003]: "Bernard Berenger of Narbonne was the 2nd son of Viscount Berenger by garsinde, dau of Count Bernard I of Besalu and Tota/Adelaide, presumably dau of Raymond count of Toulouse and Adelaide of Anjou."1



; Per Med Lands:
     "BERNARD de Narbonne (-before 1077). "Berengarius…vicecomes et uxor mea Garsindes filiique nostri Raymundus, Petrus […clericus] et Bernardus" donated property to the cathedral of Narbonne, with the advice of "Garsindis comitissæ matri meæ", by charter dated 23 Apr 1048[1024]. Vicomte de Narbonne. A charter dated 1066 records the settlement of disputes between the archbishop of Narbonne and "Bernardum Berengarii vicecomitem eiusdem civitatis"[1025]. "Berengarius vicecomes et uxor mea Garsindis" swore allegiance to "domno Raymundo Berengarii seniori nostro" for one of his fiefs by charter dated 5 Feb 1067, subscribed by "Raimundus Berengarii, Petrus Berengarii, Bernardus Berengarii filii eorum"[1026].
     "m FIDES [Foi], daughter of ---. . "Vicecomitissa Narbonæ…Fidis" donated property to the abbeys of Cluny and Moissac by charter dated 1077[1027]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. She is shown in secondary sources as Fides [Foi] de Rouergue, daughter of Hugues [I] Comte de Rouergue & his wife Fe [Fides] de Cerdanya. The primary source on which this is based has not been traced. It is possible that the affiliation is speculative, suggested by her being named after her supposed mother. However, the fact that the counties which fell within the sphere of influence of the comtes de Rouergue reverted to the comtes de Toulouse after the childless death of Fides´s supposed sister Berthe, suggests that the latter had no collateral heirs either.
     "Bernard & his wife had four children:
     "a) AIMERY [I] de Narbonne (-Syria [1105/06]).
     "b) HUGUES de Narbonne (-after 1 Jun 1080).
     "c) BERENGER de Narbonne (-after 1 Jun 1080).
     "d) FOI de Narbonne (-after 9 May [1105])."

Med Lands cites:
[1024] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 227, col. 454.
[1025] Histoire générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 275, col. 540.
[1026] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 278, col. 546.
[1027] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 327, p. 633.3

; Per Stasser email [2003]: "dans l'article 027c01c36266$6f591080$78f4fea9@old, Leo van de Pas à leov...@bigpond.com a écrit le 14/08/03 15:30 :
- hide quoted text -
> Before 1265 Sybille de Foix married Aimery Vicomte de Narbonne.
>
> Does anyone know whether he was Aimery IV or Aimery VI and can anyone help me with his ancestor list?
     "Aimery IV of Narbonne married Sibylle, dau of Roger IV count of Foix and Brunissende of Cardonna
     "He died in october 1298, and was the son of Amaury I,viscount of narbonne, by Philippa, dau of Pierre Bermond of Sauve and Anduze, and Gauceranne of Poitiers
     "Amaury I of Narbonne was the second son of Aimery III by his 2nd wife Marguerite, dau of Mathieu of Montmorency, lord of Marly, and Mathilde of Garlande
     "Aimery III of Narbonne was the son of Pierre Manrique of Lara, viscount of narbonne, by his 1st wife sancia, dau of King Garcia V of Navarra, and his 2nd wife Sancia of Castilla
     "Pierre Manrique of Lara was the 2nd son of Manrique Perez of Lara by Ermessinde, 2nd dau of Viscount Aimery II of Narbonne
     "Viscount Aimery II of Narbonne had by his first wife Ermengarde a son, Aimery, who died young, and a daughter, Ermengarde, who inherited Narbonne. By his 2nd wife Ermessinde, he had another daughter, Ermessinde, mar to Manrique Perez of Lara
     "Viscount Aimery II was the eldest son of viscount Aimery I of Narbonne by his wife Mathilde, 2nd daughter of Robert Guiscard of hauteville, duke of Apulia and Calabria, prince of Salerno and duke of Amalfi, by his 2nd wife Sichelgaita, dau of Prince Gaimar IV of Salerno by his 2nd wife Gemma, dau of a count Laidulf, presumably of Teano
     "Aimey I of Narbonne was the son of Viscount Bernard Berenger by his wife Fides, who may have been the dau of Count Hugues of Rouergue
     "Bernard Berenger of Narbonne was the 2nd son of Viscount Berenger by garsinde, dau of Count Bernard I of Besalu and Tota/Adelaide, presumably dau of Raymond count of Toulouse and Adelaide of Anjou
     "Berenger of Narbonne was the son of Viscount Raymond I of Narbonne by his wife Ricarda, presumably dau of Berenger I of Millau
     "Raymond I of Narbonne was the son of Viscount Matfred by his wife Adelaide, dau of Arnaud count of Carcassonne and Arsinde of Rouergue
     "Matfred of Narbonne was the son of viscount Eudes by his wife Richilde, dau of Guifred II of Barcelona and his wife Garsinde
     "Eudes of narbonne was the son of viscount Franco by his wife Arsinde, presumably dau of either Raymond I of Toulouse and his wife Bertheiz, or of Eudes of Toulouse and his wife Garsinde
I hope this helps, Thierry”.5

Citations

  1. [S1463] Thierry Stasser, "Stasser email "Re: Aimeri de Narbonne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/t-7jjfjHxVo/m/4YzombalQZ0J) to e-mail address, 16 August 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Stasser email 16 August 2003."
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/TOULOUSE%20NOBILITY.htm#BerenguerNarbonnedied1067B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/TOULOUSE%20NOBILITY.htm#BernardNarbonnedied1077
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Toulouse 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/toulouse/toul1.html
  5. [S1463] Thierry Stasser, "Stasser email 16 August 2003," e-mail to e-mail address, 16 August 2003, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/soc.genealogy.medieval/t-7jjfjHxVo/4YzombalQZ0J;context-place=forum/soc.genealogy.medieval.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aimeri I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120312&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/TOULOUSE%20NOBILITY.htm#AmauryINarbonnedied1105

Foi/Fides de Rouerge Vctss de Narbonne1,2,3

F, #19446
FatherHugues (?) Comte de Rouerge et de Gevaudun2,1,4 d. c 1053
MotherFoi/Fides (?) de Cerdagne2,4
ReferenceEDV31
Last Edited12 Apr 2020
     Foi/Fides de Rouerge Vctss de Narbonne married Bernard Berenguer (?) Vicomte de Narbonne, son of Berenguer I (?) Vicomte de Narbonne and Gersinde (?) de Besalu.2,3
     ; Fides, who may have been the dau of Count Hugues of Rouergue.1 EDV-31.

Citations

  1. [S1463] Thierry Stasser, "Stasser email "Re: Aimeri de Narbonne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/t-7jjfjHxVo/m/4YzombalQZ0J) to e-mail address, 16 August 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Stasser email 16 August 2003."
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Toulouse 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/toulouse/toul1.html
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/TOULOUSE%20NOBILITY.htm#BernardNarbonnedied1077. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/toulnoreast.htm#FidesMBernardVicNarbonne
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aimeri I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120312&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/TOULOUSE%20NOBILITY.htm#AmauryINarbonnedied1105

Eleanor Talbot1

F, #19447, d. 30 June 1468
FatherSir John Talbot Knt., KG, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, 1st Earl of Waterford2 b. c 1384, d. 17 Jul 1453
MotherLady Margaret Beauchamp Baroness Berkeley, Baroness Lisle2 b. 1404, d. 14 Jun 1467
Last Edited13 Jul 2020
     Eleanor Talbot married Thomas Boteler, son of Sir Ralph Boteler Knt., KG, 7th (last) Baron Sudeley and Alice Deincourt Baroness d'Eyncourt and Grey, of Rotherfield.1
Eleanor Talbot died on 30 June 1468.2
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "EDWARD of York, son of RICHARD Duke of York & his wife Cecily Neville (Rouen 28 Apr 1442-Palace of Westminster 10 Apr 1483, bur St George’s Chapel, Windsor). The Annales of William Wyrcester record the birth 28 Apr 1442 “apud Rothomagum” of “Edwardus filius secundus Ricardi ducis Eboraci et heres, rex Angliæ et Franciæ”, adding that he was “conceptus...in camera proxima capellæ palatii de Hatfelde”[1217]. Questions about Edward's paternity were first raised during his reign and were repeated by his brother Richard who declared him illegitimate on 22 Jun 1483 prior to seizing the throne. The Historie of England by Polydore Vergil records that “Cecyly king Edwards mother...being falsely accusyd of adultery, companyd...of that great injury which hir soon Richard had doon hir”[1218]. The matter even found its way into Shakespeare's Richard III[1219]. It is suggested that his real father was an archer named Blaybourne. Historian Dr Michael K. Jones revealed, in a UK television documentary[1220], evidence from the Rouen cathedral register which indicates that Richard Duke of York was on campaign in Pontoise from 14 Jul to 21 Aug 1441, the period when Edward would have been conceived. This does not of course constitute proof that the duke's absence was continuous throughout the period. In addition, there is no proof that Edward's mother stayed in Rouen throughout the time in question, so she could have joined her husband temporarily on campaign. Created Earl of March [Sep/Dec] 1445. After rebelling with his father, he was also forced to flee at Ludford 13 Oct 1459, arriving in Calais 2 Nov. He was attainted 20 Nov 1459, forfeiting all his titles and honours. He defeated the Lancastrians at Northampton 10 Jul 1460 and captured King Henry VI, whom they brought to London 16 Jul 1460. His attainder and forfeiture were nullified Oct 1460. He succeeded his father 1460 as Duke of York, Earl of Ulster and Earl of Cambridge. He defeated the Earls of Pembroke and Wiltshire at Mortimer's Cross, near Wigmore, 2 or 3 Feb 1461, and marched on London where he was proclaimed EDWARD IV King of England by Parliament 4 Mar 1461. Crowned 28 Jun 1461 at Westminster Abbey. He was deposed in favour of King Henry VI 3 Oct 1470, but restored to the throne 11 Apr 1471. A manuscript calendar records the death “IV Id Apr” in 1483 of “Rege Edwardi iiii”[1221]. The Vitellius A XVI Chronicle records the death “at Westmynster” 9 Apr [1483] of “kyng Edward IV” and his burial at “Wyndesor”[1222].
     "m (Manor of Grafton Regis, Northamptonshire 1 May 1464) as her second husband, ELIZABETH Wydeville, widow of JOHN Grey of Groby, daughter of RICHARD Wydeville Earl Rivers & his wife Jacquette de Luxembourg (Grafton Regis [1437]-St Saviour’s Abbey, Bermondsey 8 Jun 1492, bur St George’s Chapel, Windsor). A manuscript pedigree dated to [1500] names "Queen Elizabeth" as daughter of "Richard Earl Rivers" and mother of "The Queen that now is" and of "Thomas Marquess of Dorset"[1223]. A manuscript records the marriage “in festo Apostolorum Philippi et Jacobi” of “rex Edwardus” and “Elizabetham filiam domini de Rivaye et ducisse Bedfordie”[1224]. The Continuation of the History of Croyland records the marriage “privately” of “king Edward” and “the widow of a certain knight, Elizabeth...though she only had a knight for her father, had a duchess for her mother”[1225]. She was crowned Queen 26 May 1465 at Westminster Abbey. Her marriage was declared null and void 25 Jun 1483 by the Act of Parliament “Titulus Regius”, their children becoming illegitimate, but recognised as valid once more Oct 1485 by the first Parliament of King Henry VII.
     "Mistress (1): ELEANOR Talbot, widow of THOMAS Butler [son of Ralph Boteler Lord Sudeley], daughter of JOHN Talbot Earl of Shrewsbury & his second wife Margaret Beauchamp (-30 Jun 1468). The Memoirs of Philip de Comines record that the bishop of Bath “discovered to the duke of Gloucester that his brother king Edward” had married (before he married the queen), the bishop performing the ceremony “nobody was present but they two and himself”[1226]. The declaration of nullity of the marriage of Edward IV and Elizabeth Wydeville (25 Jun 1483 by the Act of Parliament “Titulus Regius”) was based on his alleged pre-contract of marriage with Eleanor Butler. The Titulus Regius 23 Jan 1483 (O.S.) records that “King Edward was...maryed...to...Dame Elianor Butteler doughter of the old Earl of Shrewesbury, with whom the same King Edward had made a precontracte of matrimonie...bifore he made the...pretensed mariage with...Elizabeth Grey”[1227].
     "Mistress (2): CATHERINE Clarington, daughter of ---. Buck records that King Edward IV had “many mistresses...whereof the most famous was Catharine de Clarington, Elisabeth Wiatt alias Lucy, Jane Shore, the Lady Elianour Talbot” but he cites no primary sources on which he bases this information[1228].
     "Mistress (3): ELIZABETH Lucy [Wyatt/Waite], daughter of ---. Buck records that King Edward IV had “many mistresses...whereof the most famous was Catharine de Clarington, Elisabeth Wiatt alias Lucy, Jane Shore, the Lady Elianour Talbot” but he cites no primary sources on which he bases this information[1229]. Thomas More´s biography of King Richard III (dated to [1513]) records that King Edward IV was betrothed to “Dame Elizabeth Lucy, whom the king had also not long before gotten with child”, although it is clear from the context that More is reporting the same incident which other earlier sources indicate involved Eleanor Talbot (see above)[1230]. No earlier primary source has been found in which Elizabeth Lucy/Wyatt is named, nor has any primary source been traced which identifies the mother(s) of King Edward´s three illegitimate children who are shown below.
     "Mistress (4): JANE Shore, daughter of ---. Buck records that King Edward IV had “many mistresses...whereof the most famous was Catharine de Clarington, Elisabeth Wiatt alias Lucy, Jane Shore, the Lady Elianour Talbot” but he cites no primary sources on which he bases this information[1231]. Thomas More´s biography of King Richard III (dated to [1513]) records that King Edward IV “had three concubines in whom three diverse qualities differently excelled: one the merriest, another the wiliest, the third the holiest harlot in his realm...the merriest was Shore´s wife [Jane]”[1232]."
Med Lands cites:
[1217] Annales Wilhelmi Wyrcester, 1442, p. [763].
[1218] Ellis (1844), pp. 184-5.
[1219] William Shakespeare Richard III, Act 3, Scene 5.
[1220] "Fact or Fiction: Richard III", first broadcast in the UK by Channel 4 on 3 Jan 2004.
[1221] Collectanea Topographica et Genealogica, Vol. I (1834), XXXVII (MS. Reg. 2 A. XVIII), p. 278.
[1222] Kingsford (1905), III, VitelIius A XVI, p. 189.
[1223] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XL, Harleian MS 1074, No. 1, p. 296.
[1224] Gairdner (1880), A Brief Latin Chronicle, from MS Arundel 5, College of Arms, p. 180.
[1225] Riley (1854), Continuation of the History of Croyland, pp. 439-40.
[1226] Historical Memoirs of Philip de Comines (London, 1817), Book. V, XVIII, p. 312.
[1227] Rotuli Parliamentorum A.D. 1483 1 Richard III, consulted at (1 Aug 2013).
[1228] Buck (1647), p. 115.
[1229] Buck (1647), p. 115.
[1230] More ([1513]), p. 56.
[1231] Buck (1647), p. 115.
[1232] More ([1513]), p. 49.3
She and Edward IV (?) King of England were associated.3

; Complete Peerage 12 Pt. 1 (1953): 422 (sub Sudeley) gives an abbreviated account of the history of Thomas Boteler, son and heir apparent of Ralph Boteler, 7th Lord Sudeley (died 1473). Specifically, it states the following regarding Thomas Boteler:

"Thomas Boteler, son and heir apparent, married Eleanor, sister of Sir John Talbot, [he] died v.p. and s.p. between 1450 and 1468. His widow died 30 June 1468."

The documents below were recently found in the helpful online A2A Catalogue (http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/index.asp). They concern Thomas Boteler and his wife, Eleanor Talbot. The documents indicate that Thomas Boteler was knighted and that he living 10 May 1453, but died before 15 January 1460. This provides a much more narrow time frame for Sir Thomas Boteler's death than indicated by Complete Peerage. The documents below also identify Sir Thomas' wife, Eleanor Talbot, as the daughter of John Talbot, K.G., 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, by his 2nd wife, Margaret, daughter of Richard Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick. The documents also reveal that shortly before her death in 1468, Lady Eleanor (Talbot) Boteler conveyed her lands to her sister, Elizabeth (Talbot) Mowbray, Duchess of Norfolk.

Further details of this addition to Complete Peerage can be found sometime in the future on my new website:

www.royalancestry.net

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

E-mail: douglasrichardson@royalancestry.net

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Source: A2A Catalogue

Warwickshire County Record Office: Holbech of Farnborough,
Reference Code: L1
Holbech of Farnborough.

Reference: L1/78
Creation dates: 2 July 29 Hen.VI [1451]

Physical characteristics: The tag for a seal in simple queue has been
torn away.

Scope and Content
Letter of attorney by Ralph Buttiller Lord of [?S]udeley to John
Aylesbury and John Seman to take seisin from John Beaufitz in the
manor of Fennycompton' with its appurtenances.

Endorsement:

litera attorn' facta Johanni

Beaufitz de Fenycompton

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Reference: L1/79
Creation dates: Chepingdorset 10 May 31 Hen.VI [1453]

Physical characteristics: Seal, heraldic, round, of red wax, partly
broken.

Scope and Content
Gift, with warranty, by Ralph Botiller lord of Sudeley knight to
Thomas Botiller his son and heir and to Thomas' wife Eleanor daughter
of John Earl of Salop' and of Margaret his wife and to their
legitimate issue of his manors of Chepingdorset, Greffe, Fennycompton'
and of all his lands and tenements called Shipleysthing in Greffe: all
the lands, tenements, rents, reversions and services are to be held of
the capital lords by the services due and accustomed to the capital
lords of the fee.

Witnesses: William Catesby knight William Birmyncham knight William
Lucy esquire Thomas Throkmorton and John Broune and others

Endorsement: maij 31 H 6 Radus Boteler dominus de Sudley en feoffes
Tho his sonne & heire & Alionora his wyfe daughter of John Earle of
Salop.

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Reference: L1/80
Creation dates: 10 May 31 Hen.VI [1453]

Physical characteristics: Fragment of seal, heraldic, round, of red
wax.

Scope and Content
Letter of attorney by Ralph Botiller lord of Sudeley knight to John
Beaufitz to give seisin to Thomas Botiller his son and heir and to
Thomas' wife Eleanor daughter of John Earl of Salop' and of Margaret
his wife of and in his manors of Chepingdorset, Greffe and
Fennycompton, and of and in all his lands and tenements called
Shipleysthing in Greffe.

Endorsement: maij 31 h 6 Raphe Butelor's letter of [sic] attorney to
Bewfitte to [? give] lyvery to Tho his sonne & Alionore his wyfe.

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Reference: L1/81
Creation dates: 10 May 31 Hen.VI [1453]

Physical characteristics: Two seals, round, of red wax, each on a
double tag.

Scope and Content
Letter of attorney given by Thomas Botiller son and heir of Ralph
Botiller lord of Sudeley knight and by Eleanor his wife daughter of
John Earl of Salop' and of Margaret his wife to Thomas Throkmarton' to
take seisin from Ralph Botiller lord of Sudeley knight of and in the
manors of Chepingdorset, Greffe, Fennycompton' and of and in all the
lands and tenements called Shipleysthing with appurtenances in Greffe
and in all the lands, tenements, rents, reversions and services in
Chepingdorset, Greffe and Fennycompton'

Endorsement: 10 maij 31 h 6 Thomas Boteler & Alionore his wyfe made a
letter of attorney to Tho Throckmorton to take lyvery & seisin from
Radus Boteler

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Reference: L1/82
Creation dates: 15 Jan. 38 Hen.VI [1460]

Physical characteristics: Seal, heraldic, round, of red wax, on tag.

Scope and Content
Quitclaim, with warranty, by Ralph Buttiller lord of Sudeley knight to
Eleanor Buttiller one of the daughters of John Earl of Salop and
lately the wife of Thomas Buttiller knight Ralph's son of all his
right and title of and in the manor of Fennycompton' and in all the
lands, tenements, meadows, pastures, woods, rents, reversions and
services in Fennycompton'.

Endorsement: 15 Januarij 39 [sic] h 6 Raphus' Boteler releases to
Alionore Boteler one of the daughters of John Earle of Salop late wyfe
of Sr Tho Boteler sonne of the said Raphus'

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Reference: L1/85
Creation dates: [1468]

Physical characteristics: Seal, round, of red wax, on tag.

Scope and Content
Gift, with warranty, by Eleanor Boteler' lately the wife of Thomas
Boteler' knight now deceased to Elizabeth Duchess of Northefolch' wife
of John now Duke of Northefolch' one of the daughters of John Earl of
Salop' deceased and sister of her the aforesaid Eleanor and to Thomas
Throkmarton' and to John Eyuers of her manor of Fenycompton' together
with the reversion of her manor of Ore [Oare] under Savernake in co.
Wilts and of divers messuages, lands, tenements, rents, reversions and
services in Draycote, Coldecote and Chikeladerigg [Draycot, Calcutt and ?Chicklade] in the said county, now in the tenure of John Cheyny
for life, without demand of waste to be held by services due and
accustomed to the capital lords of the fee.

Witnesses: William Catesby knight Thomas Huggeford and John Huggeford
esquires and others.

Fenycompton' 4 June 8 Ed.IV

Endorsements:

4 Junij viijo Ed 4 Alionior Boterler late wyfe of Sr Tho Bo[?terler]
[sic] enfeoffs Eliz dutchesse of Norfoulke one of the daughters of
John Earle of Salop sister of the said Alionore Tho Throckmorton and
John Evars

Datum die

quarto Junij Ed: quarti

post conquestum octavo

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Reference: L1/86
Creation dates: [1468]

Physical characteristics: Seal, round, of red wax, on tag.

Scope and Content
Letter of attorney given by Eleanor Boteler lately the wife of Thomas
Boteler deceased to Robert Handy and Thomas Askell knights jointly and
singly to deliver full seisin of the manor of Fenycompton to Elizabeth
Duchess of Northefolch' wife of John now Duke of Northefolch' one of
the daughters of John Earl of Salop' deceased sister of the aforesaid
Eleanor to Thomas Throkmarton' and to John Eyuers.

Feny Compton', 4 June 8 Ed.IV

Endorsement: 4 Junij viijo Ed 4 letter of attorney from Alionore late
wyfe of Sir. Tho Boteler to delyver seisyn to Elizabeth [sic]
Dutchesse of Norffolke

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Reference: L1/87
Creation dates: [1468]

Physical characteristics: Three seals, round, of red wax, each on a
double tag.

Scope and Content
Letter of attorney given by Elizabeth Duchess of Northefolch' wife of
John now Duke of Northefolch' by Thomas Throkmarton' and by John [MS torn: ? Ey]uers to John Seman' and Gilbert Cockes jointly and singly
to take seisin of and in the manor of Fenycompton' and in all the
lands, tenements, rents, reversions and services with appurtenances in
Feny Compton' according to the charter given by Eleanor Boteler lately
the wife of Thomas Boteler knight deceased

Fenycompton', 4 June 8 Ed.IV

Endorsement: 4 Junij 8 E 4 letter of attorney from Eliz Dutches of
Norfolke Tho Throckmarton & John Evers to John Seman & Gilbert Cooke
to take seisyn from Alionore Boteler late wyfe of Sr Tho Boteler

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Reference: L1/88
Creation dates: Seudeley, 26 March 8 Ed.IV [1468]

Physical characteristics: Seal, heraldic, round, of red wax on double
tag.

Scope and Content
Gift of corrody of £6.13.4 for life by Ralph Buttiller Knight Lord of
Seudeley to John Beaufitz his servant, for his good and pleasing
service, of and in the manor of Sherryfeslenche and Churche Lenche,
co. Worcester, to be paid at the feasts of the Annunciation of Blessed
Mary the Virgin and of St. Michael the Archangel in equal portions by
the farmers or occupiers of the said lands, which may be entered,
distrained or confiscated by the said John Beaufitz or his attorney if
there is default for 8 weeks, until payment is made.

Endorsement: Carta corrodij Radl Buttiler

facta Johanni Beaufitz de sex

lib tresdecim solid' & iiij or denariorum [sic] pro termino vite.2


Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Shrewsbury and Waterford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1655] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 5 June 2004 "C.P. Addition: Parentage of Eleanor Talbot, wife of Sir Thomas Boteler"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 5 June 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 5 June 2004."
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20Kings%201066-1603.htm#EdwardIVdied1483B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Thomas Boteler1

M, #19448
FatherSir Ralph Boteler Knt., KG, 7th (last) Baron Sudeley1 b. b 1418, d. 2 May 1473
MotherAlice Deincourt Baroness d'Eyncourt and Grey, of Rotherfield1 b. bt 25 Feb 1403 - 1404, d. bt 10 Feb 1473 - 1474
Last Edited19 May 2003

Family

Eleanor Talbot d. 30 Jun 1468

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Shrewsbury and Waterford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Nuño Perez de Lara Count de Lara1,2,3

M, #19449, b. before 1141, d. 23 July 1177
FatherPedro González de Lara Conde de Lara2,3,4,5 b. bt 1080 - 1085, d. 16 Oct 1130
MotherEva de Traba2,3,5
Last Edited8 Oct 2020
     Nuño Perez de Lara Count de Lara was born before 1141.6 He married Teresa Fernandez de Traba, daughter of Fernando Pérez de Traba Conde de Trava, sn de Trastamara and Doña Teresa Alfonso (?) Infanta de Castile y León, before 18 March 1154;
Her possible 1st husband; Med Lands discusses the reason that they may not have been married.7,8,9,10
Nuño Perez de Lara Count de Lara died on 23 July 1177; killed during the siege of Cuenca.2
     He was living on 8 February 1141.7

Family 1

Child

Family 2

Teresa Fernandez de Traba b. c 1120, d. c 5 Feb 1180
Children

Citations

  1. [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe (NY: Barnes & Noble Books, 2002), Table 47: Castile: Union with Leon until the beginning of the fourteenth century. Hereinafter cited as Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession.
  2. [S1432] Simon R. Doubleday, The Lara Family: Crown and Nobility in Medieval Spain (Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 2001), p. 189. Hereinafter cited as Doubleday [2001] The Lara Family.
  3. [S1434] Simon Barton, The Aristocracy in Twelfth-Century Leon and Castile (Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press, 1997), pp. 269, 305. Hereinafter cited as Barton [1997] Aristocracy in 12th Cent Leon & Castile.
  4. [S1434] Simon Barton, Barton [1997] Aristocracy in 12th Cent Leon & Castile, p. 280.
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SPANISH%20NOBILITY%20LATER%20MEDIEVAL.htm#PedroGonzalezdied1130B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S1434] Simon Barton, Barton [1997] Aristocracy in 12th Cent Leon & Castile, p. 305.
  7. [S1434] Simon Barton, Barton [1997] Aristocracy in 12th Cent Leon & Castile, p. 269.
  8. [S2185] Francisco Tavares de Almeida, "de Almeida email 23 Sept 2007: "Re: Descendants Alfonso VI - improved and extended"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "de Almeida email 23 Sept 2007."
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Teresa Fernandez de Trava: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00325787&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Teresa Fernandez de Trava: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00399767&tree=LEO
  11. [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession, Table 44: Aragon and Castile - Early Kings.
  12. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Barcelona 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/barcelona/barcelona2.html
  13. [S1434] Simon Barton, Barton [1997] Aristocracy in 12th Cent Leon & Castile, pp. 239, 305.
  14. [S1434] Simon Barton, Barton [1997] Aristocracy in 12th Cent Leon & Castile, p. 239.

Gonsalo Ruiz Giron

M, #19450, d. circa 1153
FatherRodrigo Gonsalez Giron d. c 1145
ReferenceEDV25
Last Edited12 Aug 2020
     Gonsalo Ruiz Giron died circa 1153.
     EDV-25.

Family

Child

Rodrigo Gonsalez Giron

M, #19451, d. circa 1145
FatherCount Gonsalo Pelayez (?) d. Oct 1137
ReferenceEDV26
Last Edited15 Aug 2019
     Rodrigo Gonsalez Giron died circa 1145.
     EDV-26.

Family

Child

Adelaide (?)1

F, #19452
Last Edited13 Aug 2020
     Adelaide (?) married Gausfred II de Roussillon Comte de Roussillon, son of Guislabert de Empúries Comte de Roussillon and Beliarda (?).1
     ; Per Genealogy.EU (Barcelona 7): “E1. Cde Gausfredo II de Rosellon, living 1074; m.Adelaida N”.1

; Per Med Lands:
     "GAUSFRED [II] de Roussillon ([1069/74]). His parentage is confirmed by a charter dated 7 Apr 1044 records that “domnus Petrus Dalmacii abbas” claimed in the court of “principibus illorum Poncio...et Gauzfredo” relating to donations made by “Gauzfredus comes avus vester et Gaucebertus pater eius”[1838]. He succeeded his father as Comte de Roussillon. “Ugo...comes et uxor mea Guisla comitissa et Pontius filius meus et Gauzfredus comes et Sonierius frater eius” sold property to Sant Pere de Rodes, referring to donations made by “Gaufredus comes et Soniarius episcopus filius eius condam bonæ memoriæ”, by charter dated 16 Jan 1030[1839]. An inscription at Elna records the dedication of the altar in 1069 by "episcopus istius ecclesie Raimundus et Gaucefredus comes simulque Azalaiz comitissa"[1840].
     "m ADELAIDE, daughter of --- (-after [1074]). An inscription at Elna records the dedication of the altar in 1069 by "episcopus istius ecclesie Raimundus et Gaucefredus comes simulque Azalaiz comitissa"[1841]. A proposed agreement dated [1074?] names "Pontius comes filius…Gila comitissa" [Empúries] as one party to the transaction and "Gilabertum comitem filius…Adalaizis comitissa" [Roussillon] as the other party[1842]."
Med Lands cites:
[1838] Marca Hispanica (1688), Appendix, CCXXVI, col. 1085.
[1839] Marca Hispanica (1688), Appendix, CCII, col. 1042.
[1840] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Inscriptions, 16, p. 6.
[1841] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Inscriptions, 16, p. 6.
[1842] Cartulaire Roussillonais LVI, p. 83.2

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Barcelona 7 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/barcelona/barcelona7.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CATALAN%20NOBILITY.htm#GuislabertoIRoussillonB. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CATALAN%20NOBILITY.htm#GilabertIIRoussillondiedafter1102B

Sir Christopher Talbot1

M, #19453, d. 10 July 1460
FatherSir John Talbot Knt., KG, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, 1st Earl of Waterford1 b. c 1384, d. 17 Jul 1453
MotherMaude de Neville Baroness Furnivall1 b. 1392, d. 1423
Last Edited23 Nov 2002
     Sir Christopher Talbot died on 10 July 1460 at Battle of Northampton, Northamptonshire, England; Lancastrian Wars of Roses, Battle of Northampton (Yorkist victory.)1

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Shrewsbury and Waterford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Aldonza Rodriguez de Vela1,2

F, #19454, b. before 1135, d. after 1170
FatherCount Rodrigo Velaz de Vela1,2 b. b 1085, d. Jun 1144
MotherUrraca Alvarez (?)1,2
ReferenceEDV28
Last Edited15 Aug 2019
     Aldonza Rodriguez de Vela was born before 1135.2 She married Lope Diaz de Haro Lord of Vizcaya, son of Diego Lopez "el Blanco" de Haro Lord of Alava, Buradon, Granon, Haro, Najera and Vizcaya and Maria Sanchez (?), before 1162.1,2
Aldonza Rodriguez de Vela died after 1170.2
     ; Aldonza Rodriguez, dau of Count Rodrigo Velaz and Urraca Alvarez, ment. 1162-1207, after her husband death, she entered the nunnery of Canas.2 EDV-28.

Citations

  1. [S1434] Simon Barton, The Aristocracy in Twelfth-Century Leon and Castile (Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press, 1997), p. 263. Hereinafter cited as Barton [1997] Aristocracy in 12th Cent Leon & Castile.
  2. [S1494] Thierry Stasser, "Stasser email "Re: Diego Lopez de Haro, de Vizcaya/Biscay"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 5 November 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Stasser email 5 November 2003."
  3. [S2184] Leo van de Pas, "van de Pas email 23 Sept 2007: "Descendants Alfonso VI - improved and extended"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/lVvrEhMS2pk/m/lxJSTqSvbG0J) to e-mail address, 23 Sept 2007. Hereinafter cited as "van de Pas email 23 Sept 2007."
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Ivrea 6 Page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/ivrea/ivrea6.html
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Urraca López de Haro: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00399769&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S1499] Maria Emma Escobar, "Escobar email "Diego Lopez de Haro, de Vizcaya/Biscay"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 6 November 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Escobar email 6 November 2003."

Rodrigo Fernandez de Castro

M, #19455
FatherFernando Garcia de Hita Señor de Guadalaxara, Señor de Hita y de Cuéllar1,2 b. c 1070, d. c 1140
MotherTegridia Martínez (?) d. b 1119
Last Edited12 Aug 2020

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I29348
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Fernando Garcia de Hita: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00518754&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Estephania Perez de Trava

F, #19456
FatherPedro Fruelas de Trava Conde de Trava d. 1071
MotherMayor de Urgel
Last Edited12 Aug 2020

Estefania Armengol (?) de Urgel1,2,3

F, #19457
FatherArmengol VI "el Castellano" (?) Conde de Urgel4,2 b. b 1101, d. 1154
MotherArsende (?) de Ager2
Last Edited6 Oct 2020
     Estefania Armengol (?) de Urgel married Rodrigo Gonsalez de la Bureba, son of Gonsalo Rodriguez de la Bureba.

Citations

  1. [S1432] Simon R. Doubleday, The Lara Family: Crown and Nobility in Medieval Spain (Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 2001), p. 189. Hereinafter cited as Doubleday [2001] The Lara Family.
  2. [S1434] Simon Barton, The Aristocracy in Twelfth-Century Leon and Castile (Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press, 1997), p. 231. Hereinafter cited as Barton [1997] Aristocracy in 12th Cent Leon & Castile.
  3. [S1434] Simon Barton, Barton [1997] Aristocracy in 12th Cent Leon & Castile, p. 292.
  4. [S1432] Simon R. Doubleday, Doubleday [2001] The Lara Family, p. 29.

Gutierre Fernandez de Aza

M, #19458
FatherFernando Garcia de Hita Señor de Guadalaxara, Señor de Hita y de Cuéllar1 b. c 1070, d. c 1140
MotherEstafania de Urgel d. a 15 Feb 1143
Last Edited12 Aug 2020
     Gutierre Fernandez de Aza married an unknown person.

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Fernando Garcia de Hita: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00518754&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Estefania (?)1

F, #19459
Last Edited13 Aug 2020
     Estefania (?) married Giselbert II de Roussillon Comte de Roussillon, son of Gausfred II de Roussillon Comte de Roussillon and Adelaide (?).1
     ; Per Genealogy.EU (Barcelona 7): “F1. Cde Guislaberto II de Rosellon, living 1102; m.Estefania N”.2

; Per Med Lands:
     "GISELBERT [II] de Roussillon, son of GAUSFRED [II] Comte de Roussillon & his wife Adelaide --- (-after 15 Sep 1102). He succeeded his father as Comte de Roussillon. A proposed agreement dated [1074?] names "Pontius comes filius…Gila comitissa" [Empúries] as one party to the transaction and "Gilabertum comitem filius…Adalaizis comitissa" [Roussillon] as the other party[1846]. A charter dated 10 May 1087 records a hearing at Roussillon in the presence of "comitibus…Guilaberto et Ugo", witnessed by "…vicecomite Castronovo…Guillelmi…"[1847]. A charter dated 25 Sep 1100 records an agreement between the bishop of Elna and “Guilabertus comes...filiusque ipsius Guinardus”[1848]. “Guilabertus...Rossilionensis comes...cum coniuge mea comitissa Stephania et filio meo Guitardo” donated property to Perpignan Saint-Jean by charter dated 15 Sep 1102, subscribed by “Guilaberti comitis...Stephaniæ comitissæ, Guitardi filii ipsorum, Agnes uxoris ipsius...”[1849].
     "m ESTEFANÍA, daughter of ---. “Guilabertus...Rossilionensis comes...cum coniuge mea comitissa Stephania et filio meo Guitardo” donated property to Perpignan Saint-Jean by charter dated 15 Sep 1102, subscribed by “Guilaberti comitis...Stephaniæ comitissæ, Guitardi filii ipsorum, Agnes uxoris ipsius...”[1850]."
Med Lands cites:
[1846] Cartulaire Roussillonais LVI, p. 83.
[1847] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 370, col. 703.
[1848] Marca Hispanica (1688), Appendix, CCCXXVI, col. 1219.
[1849] Marca Hispanica (1688), Appendix, CCCXXXI, col. 1226.
[1850] Marca Hispanica (1688), Appendix, CCCXXXI, col. 1226.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CATALAN%20NOBILITY.htm#GilabertIIRoussillondiedafter1102B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Barcelona 7 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/barcelona/barcelona7.html

Sir Thomas Talbot 2nd (last) Viscount Lisle1

M, #19460, b. between 1443 and 1448, d. between 20 March 1469 and 1470
FatherSir John Talbot 1st Viscount Lisle, 1st Lord and Baron of Lisle1 b. c 1426, d. 17 Jul 1453
MotherJoan Chedder1
Last Edited23 Nov 2002
     Sir Thomas Talbot 2nd (last) Viscount Lisle married Margaret Herbert, daughter of William Herbert Knt., KG, 1st Earl of Pembroke, 1st Lord Herbert.1 Sir Thomas Talbot 2nd (last) Viscount Lisle was born between 1443 and 1448.1
Sir Thomas Talbot 2nd (last) Viscount Lisle died between 20 March 1469 and 1470; dsps.1
     He was 2nd and last VISCOUNT LISLE.1

; Sir THOMAS TALBOT, 2nd and last VISCOUNT LISLE; b c 1443-48; ktd 1465; m Sept 1466 Margaret, dau of William Herbert, 1st Earl of Pembroke (see PEMBROKE and MONTGOMERY, E, also POWIS, E), and dsps 20 March 1469/70 in a skirmish between his followers and those of William, Lord (Baron) Berkeley (qv), with whose family the Talbots had been feuding for some time, when the Viscounty expired, but the Barony of Lisle, inasmuch as it went with possession of the manor of Kingston Lisle according to the terms of the patent of creation, became dormant.1

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Shrewsbury and Waterford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Margaret Herbert1

F, #19461
FatherWilliam Herbert Knt., KG, 1st Earl of Pembroke, 1st Lord Herbert1,2 d. 27 Jul 1469
Last Edited27 Nov 2008

Family

Sir Thomas Talbot 2nd (last) Viscount Lisle b. bt 1443 - 1448, d. bt 20 Mar 1469 - 1470

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Shrewsbury and Waterford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Herbert 14: p. 395. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Sir Humphrey Talbot Marshal of Calais1

M, #19462, d. 1492
FatherSir John Talbot Knt., KG, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, 1st Earl of Waterford1 b. c 1384, d. 17 Jul 1453
MotherLady Margaret Beauchamp Baroness Berkeley, Baroness Lisle1 b. 1404, d. 14 Jun 1467
Last Edited23 Nov 2002
     Sir Humphrey Talbot Marshal of Calais died in 1492; dsp.1

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Shrewsbury and Waterford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Sir Lewis Talbot of Penyard, Herefordshire1

M, #19463
FatherSir John Talbot Knt., KG, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, 1st Earl of Waterford1 b. c 1384, d. 17 Jul 1453
MotherLady Margaret Beauchamp Baroness Berkeley, Baroness Lisle1 b. 1404, d. 14 Jun 1467
Last Edited23 Nov 2002
     Sir Lewis Talbot of Penyard, Herefordshire lived at Penyard, Herefordshire, England.1

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Shrewsbury and Waterford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Elizabeth Walden1

F, #19464
FatherSir Richard Walden of Erith, Kent1
Last Edited24 Nov 2002

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Shrewsbury and Waterford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Sir Richard Walden of Erith, Kent1

M, #19465
Last Edited24 Nov 2002
     Sir Richard Walden of Erith, Kent lived at Erith, co. Kent, England.1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Shrewsbury and Waterford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Anne Talbot1

F, #19466
FatherGeorge Talbot KG, KB, PC, 4th Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford1 b. 1468, d. 26 Jul 1538
MotherElizabeth Walden1
Last Edited2 Mar 2008
     Anne Talbot married Peter Compton, son of Sir William Compton.1 Anne Talbot married William Herbert KG, PC, 1st Earl of Pembroke, son of Richard Herbert of Ewias, Herefordshire and Margaret Cradock, circa May 1552; his 2nd wife.1,2,3

Family 1

Peter Compton d. bt 30 Jan 1538 - 1539
Child

Family 2

William Herbert KG, PC, 1st Earl of Pembroke b. 1506, d. bt 17 Mar 1569 - 1570

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Shrewsbury and Waterford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Pembroke and Montgomery Family Page.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Herbert: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00004788&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Northampton Family Page.

Peter Compton1,2

M, #19467, d. between 30 January 1538 and 1539
FatherSir William Compton1,2 d. Jun 1528
Last Edited20 Mar 2003
     Peter Compton married Anne Talbot, daughter of George Talbot KG, KB, PC, 4th Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford and Elizabeth Walden.1
Peter Compton died between 30 January 1538 and 1539.2
     ; PETER COMPTON; m Anne Talbot, dau of 4th Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford (qv), and d 30 Jan 1538/9, leaving an only son.2

Family

Anne Talbot
Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Shrewsbury and Waterford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Northampton Family Page.

Sir William Compton1

M, #19468, d. June 1528
Last Edited20 Mar 2003
     Sir William Compton married Werburge Brereton, daughter of Sir John Brereton and (?) Berkeley; her 2nd husband.2
Sir William Compton died in June 1528.2
     ; Sir WILLIAM COMPTON; Ch Gentleman Bedchamber, Usher Black Rod, Keeper Privy Purse to HENRY VIII, fought Battle of Spurs 1513, Chllr Ireland, at Field of Cloth of Gold; m Werburge, widow of Sir Francis Cheyne and dau and heiress of Sir John Brereton by the sis and heiress of Sir William Berkeley, and d June 1528, leaving an only son.2

Family 1

Werburge Brereton

Family 2

Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Shrewsbury and Waterford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Northampton Family Page.

William Herbert KG, PC, 1st Earl of Pembroke1,2,3

M, #19469, b. 1506, d. between 17 March 1569 and 1570
FatherRichard Herbert of Ewias, Herefordshire4,3 d. 23 Sep 1510
MotherMargaret Cradock4,3
Last Edited2 Mar 2008
     William Herbert KG, PC, 1st Earl of Pembroke was born in 1506.2,3 He married Anne Parr, daughter of Sir Thomas Parr Knt., of Parr and Kendal and Maud Greene, before 1534; his 1st wife.2,5,3,6 William Herbert KG, PC, 1st Earl of Pembroke married Anne Talbot, daughter of George Talbot KG, KB, PC, 4th Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford and Elizabeth Walden, circa May 1552; his 2nd wife.1,2,3
William Herbert KG, PC, 1st Earl of Pembroke died between 17 March 1569 and 1570 at Hampton Court, Herefordshire, England.2,3
     ; WILLIAM HERBERT, 1st Earl of Pembroke, so cr 11 Oct 1551, as also the previous day 10 Oct 1551 BARON HERBERT of Cardiff, Glamorgan (both E), KG (1549), PC (1553 and again 1558); b c 1506; Gentleman Pensioner 1526, Esq of the Body by 12 Jan 1534/5, Jt Attorney-Gen Glamorgan 1534/5; granted a lease of Abergavenny Priory 1537; one of the newly formed body called the Spears 1539; Govr Aberystwyth and Carmarthen Castles 1543; ktd by 3 Jan 1543/4; granted lands formerly belonging to Wilton Abbey Jan 1543/4; Gentleman Privy Chamber by 20 Jan 1543/4 and subsequently Ch Gentleman both to HENRY VIII and EDWARD VI; Steward Duchy of Lancaster lands in Wilts 1545, MP Wilts 1545-51, Keeper Baynard's Castle (London, subsequently the Earls of Pembroke's London residence till the Great Fire of 1666) and Doorward Devizes Castle, also Steward roy lands in the West 1546, a Govr of EDWARD VI Jan 1546/7, Master Horse 1548-52, Ch Commr Mints Feb 1549/50, Pres Cncl of Wales 1550-53 and 1555-58, Ld Lt Wilts 1551-69/70 and Somerset 1559-69/70; Commr to execute penal laws against Catholics and survey exchequer accounts 1552, also Church goods and plate and the state of the Ordnance 1553; a supporter on the death of EDWARD VI of LADY JANE GREY, allegedly through fear of potential material loss to himself should a Catholic come to the throne, but declared sufficiently early for MARY to be made PC by her; cmded roy troops against Sir Thomas Wyatt when the latter headed an uprising Feb 1553/4; Lt-Gen beyond the seas March 1554/5, Lt and Capt-Gen Calais 1556 and 1557, Ld Steward Household 1568-69/70; m 1st c 1538(?) Anne (under 15 on 20 May 1529; d 20 Feb 1551/2), dau of Sir Thomas Parr, of Kendal and sis of HENRY VIII's last w CATHERINE, and had:

1a HENRY, 2nd Earl of Pembroke

2a Edward (Sir), of Powis Castle (see POWIS, E)

1a Anne; m 17 Feb 1562/3 Francis, Lord Talbot (dsp & vp 1582), est s of 6th Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford (qv), and d by 11 Jan 1592/3

The 1st Earl m 2nd c May 1552 Lady Anne Talbot (dsp 18 July 1588), dau of 4th Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford (qv) and widow of Peter Compton (see NORTHAMPTON, M), and d 17 March 1569/70.2


; WILLIAM HERBERT, 1st EARL OF PEMBROKE of the 1551 cr (see PEMBROKE and MONTGOMERY, E.)4

; van de Pas cites: 1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938, Reference: page 1946.
2. Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques, Reference: page 890.
3. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: vol X page 405.3 He was 1st Earl of Pembroke on 11 October 1551.2

Family 1

Anne Parr b. c 1515, d. bt 20 Feb 1551 - 1552
Children

Family 2

Anne Talbot

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Shrewsbury and Waterford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Pembroke and Montgomery Family Page.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Herbert: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00004788&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Powis Family Page.
  5. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Fitz-Hugh Barons Fitz-Hugh, pp. 207-208. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne Parr: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00004789&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Edward Herbert, of Powis Castle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00041622&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henry Herbert: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00004791&tree=LEO

Anne Parr1,2,3

F, #19470, b. circa 1515, d. between 20 February 1551 and 1552
FatherSir Thomas Parr Knt., of Parr and Kendal1,2,4,3 d. 12 Nov 1547
MotherMaud Greene1,2,5,3 b. 1493, d. 1 Dec 1531
Last Edited2 Mar 2008
     Anne Parr was born circa 1515.1 She married William Herbert KG, PC, 1st Earl of Pembroke, son of Richard Herbert of Ewias, Herefordshire and Margaret Cradock, before 1534; his 1st wife.1,2,6,3
Anne Parr died between 20 February 1551 and 1552 at Baynard's Castle, co. Surrey, England.1,3
Anne Parr was buried after 20 February 1552 at St. Paul's Cathedral, London, City of London, Greater London, England.3


     ; van de Pas cites: 1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938, Reference: page 1946.
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: vol X page 408.3

Family

William Herbert KG, PC, 1st Earl of Pembroke b. 1506, d. bt 17 Mar 1569 - 1570
Children

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Pembroke and Montgomery Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Fitz-Hugh Barons Fitz-Hugh, pp. 207-208. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne Parr: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00004789&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Thomas Parr, of Parr and Kendal: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00004786&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud Greene: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00004787&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Herbert: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00004788&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jane Stanhope: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00004789&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Edward Herbert, of Powis Castle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00041622&tree=LEO
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henry Herbert: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00004791&tree=LEO