Malcolm (?)1

M, #60601, b. circa 1062, d. circa 1094
FatherMáel-Coluim (Malcolm III) mac Donnchada "Canmore") (?) King of Scotland (Alba)1,2 b. 1031, d. 13 Nov 1093
MotherIngibiorg Finnsdottir av Austraat og Halland (?) b. c 1030; per Henry Project: "possibly by Ingibjorg Finnsdóttir: MALE Malcolm. Said to have witnessed a charter of his brother Duncan II in 1094 [ESSH 2: 26]. SP 1: 2 stated that there was no positive proof for this son, but this was before ESSH was published. The fact that it was rare at this time to name a son after the father (among both the Scots and the Anglo-Saxons) might be considered a nagative indicator, but not a decisive one, as Malcolm could easily have been influenced by the Normans in this regard, among whom naming a son after the father was common. Assuming that the charter is genuine, there is no good reason to doubt Malcolm's existence."1,3,4
Last Edited3 Dec 2020
     Malcolm (?) was born circa 1062.1
Malcolm (?) died circa 1094.1
     ; Per The Henry Project: “Máel Coluim (Malcolm), fl. 1094. Said to have witnessed a charter of his brother Duncan II in 1094 [ESSH 2: 26]. The fact that it was rare at this time to name a son after the father (among both the Scots and the Anglo-Saxons) might be considered a negative indicator regarding the existence of this son, but not a decisive one, as Malcolm could easily have been influenced by the Normans in this regard, among whom naming a son after the father was common. Assuming that the charter is genuine, there is no good reason to doubt Malcolm's existence.”.5

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Dunkeld page (The House of Dunkeld): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/dunkeld.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Máel Coluim mac Donnchada: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00002904&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/malco002.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ingibiorg Finnsdottir av Austraat og Halland: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022597&tree=LEO
  5. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/malco002.htm

Sir Bartholomew Picot Knt., of Wilkesworth (in Wimborne Minster), Dorset1,2

M, #60602, d. before 12 July 1388
Last Edited4 Dec 2012
     Sir Bartholomew Picot Knt., of Wilkesworth (in Wimborne Minster), Dorset married Elizabeth Bluet, daughter of Sir John Blouet Knt., of Raglan, Monmouth and Katherine|Margaret Wogan, before 1375; her 1st husband; date of marriage est based on DOB of son.1,3,4,2
Sir Bartholomew Picot Knt., of Wilkesworth (in Wimborne Minster), Dorset died before 12 July 1388.3

Family

Elizabeth Bluet d. 24 May 1419
Child

Citations

  1. [S1544] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson 13 Dec 2003 email "Re: Ancestry of John Bluet, of Raglan"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 13 Dec 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 13 Dec 2003."
  2. [S2365] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 18 April 2010: "Complete Peerage Addition: Elizabeth Bluet, wife of James Berkeley, Knt.," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 18 April 2010. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 18 April 2010."
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Berkeley 10: p. 100. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Bluet: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00091208&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Katherine|Margaret Wogan1,2

F, #60603, b. circa 1335
Last Edited15 Nov 2020
     Katherine|Margaret Wogan married Sir John Blouet Knt., of Raglan, Monmouth, son of Sir Ralph Blouet Knt., of Raglan and Thuruxton, co. Monmouth, Wales, and Elizabeth ferch Rhys ap Hywel; JOHN BLUET, Knt., of Raglan and Daglingworth, etc., married KATHERINE WOGAN (or GWRGAN).1,3,2,4 Katherine|Margaret Wogan was born circa 1335 at Wiston, Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire, Wales, England.3 She married Anselme de Gyse after 1376;
Her 2nd husband.2

Family 1

Sir John Blouet Knt., of Raglan, Monmouth b. c 1322, d. b 24 Mar 1376
Child

Family 2

Anselme de Gyse

Citations

  1. [S1544] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson 13 Dec 2003 email "Re: Ancestry of John Bluet, of Raglan"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 13 Dec 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 13 Dec 2003."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Katherine|Margaret Gwrgan (Wogan): https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00425302&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1743] Michael K. Blewett, pdf file on the internet, accessed 20 Aug 2005, http://bluett.com/blewett/EarlyEnglandResearch.pdf
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John Bluet, of Raglan: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00091207&tree=LEO
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Berkeley 10: p. 100. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Bluet: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00091208&tree=LEO

Sir Ralph Blouet Knt., of Raglan and Thuruxton, co. Monmouth, Wales,1

M, #60604, b. circa 1300, d. 1361
FatherRalph Blouet of Raglan, co. Monmouth, Wales,1,2 b. c 1275, d. a 1335
MotherAmice Pichard1,2 b. c 1280
Last Edited6 Oct 2020
     Sir Ralph Blouet Knt., of Raglan and Thuruxton, co. Monmouth, Wales, was born circa 1300 at Daglingworth, Monmouthshire, England.2 He married Elizabeth ferch Rhys ap Hywel, daughter of Rhys ap Hywel.1,3,2
Sir Ralph Blouet Knt., of Raglan and Thuruxton, co. Monmouth, Wales, died in 1361 at Daglingworth, Monmouthshire, England.3,2
     ; RALPH BLUET, Knt., of Raglan and Thuruxton, co. Monmouth, Wales,
and Daglingworth, co. Gloucester, married ELIZABETH FERCH RHYS AP
HYWEL.1 Sir Ralph Blouet Knt., of Raglan and Thuruxton, co. Monmouth, Wales, was also known as Sir Ralph Bluet Knt., of Raglan and Thuruxton, co. Monmouth, Wales.1

Family

Elizabeth ferch Rhys ap Hywel b. c 1300
Child

Citations

  1. [S1544] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson 13 Dec 2003 email "Re: Ancestry of John Bluet, of Raglan"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 13 Dec 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 13 Dec 2003."
  2. [S1743] Michael K. Blewett, pdf file on the internet, accessed 20 Aug 2005, http://bluett.com/blewett/EarlyEnglandResearch.pdf
  3. [S1734] R. Bodine, "Bodine email 6 Feb 2005 "Ancestry of Philip de Clanvowe"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 6 Feb 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Bodine email 6 Feb Jan 2005."
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John Bluet, of Raglan: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00091207&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Elizabeth ferch Rhys ap Hywel1

F, #60605, b. circa 1300
FatherRhys ap Hywel2,3 d. bt 11 Apr 1328 - 22 May 1328
Last Edited14 Nov 2020
     Elizabeth ferch Rhys ap Hywel was born circa 1300 at Talgarth, Hay, Breconshire, Wales, England.3 She married Sir Ralph Blouet Knt., of Raglan and Thuruxton, co. Monmouth, Wales,, son of Ralph Blouet of Raglan, co. Monmouth, Wales, and Amice Pichard.1,2,3
     Elizabeth ferch Rhys ap Hywel was named for an unknown person ; ELIZABETH ferch RHYS. Her children became the heirs of her
father's estates in Wales following the deaths of her five brothers
without issue. (BBCS, 28: 278)
     Married- Sir RALPH BLUET (died 1361), of Daglingworth,
Gloucestershire.2

Citations

  1. [S1544] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson 13 Dec 2003 email "Re: Ancestry of John Bluet, of Raglan"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 13 Dec 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 13 Dec 2003."
  2. [S1734] R. Bodine, "Bodine email 6 Feb 2005 "Ancestry of Philip de Clanvowe"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 6 Feb 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Bodine email 6 Feb Jan 2005."
  3. [S1743] Michael K. Blewett, pdf file on the internet, accessed 20 Aug 2005, http://bluett.com/blewett/EarlyEnglandResearch.pdf
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John Bluet, of Raglan: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00091207&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Ralph Blouet of Raglan, co. Monmouth, Wales,1

M, #60606, b. circa 1275, d. after 1335
FatherWalter Blewett of Ragland2
Last Edited7 Oct 2020
     Ralph Blouet of Raglan, co. Monmouth, Wales, married Amice Pichard, daughter of John Pichard of Stradewy Castle and Katherine fitz Reynold.1,2 Ralph Blouet of Raglan, co. Monmouth, Wales, was born circa 1275 at Raglan, Usk, Monmouthshire, Wales, England (now).2
Ralph Blouet of Raglan, co. Monmouth, Wales, died after 1335.2
     ; AMICE PICHARD, married RALPH BLUET, of Raglan, co. Monmouth, Wales, Daglingworth, co. Gloucester, and Thruxton, co. Hereford.1

Citations

  1. [S1544] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson 13 Dec 2003 email "Re: Ancestry of John Bluet, of Raglan"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 13 Dec 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 13 Dec 2003."
  2. [S1743] Michael K. Blewett, pdf file on the internet, accessed 20 Aug 2005, http://bluett.com/blewett/EarlyEnglandResearch.pdf

Amice Pichard1

F, #60607, b. circa 1280
FatherJohn Pichard of Stradewy Castle1,2 d. 1305
MotherKatherine fitz Reynold1
Last Edited8 Oct 2020
     Amice Pichard married Ralph Blouet of Raglan, co. Monmouth, Wales,, son of Walter Blewett of Ragland.1,3 Amice Pichard was born circa 1280 at Stradewi Castle, Brecknockshire, Wales, England.3
     Amice Pichard was also known as Amicia Picard.3

Citations

  1. [S1544] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson 13 Dec 2003 email "Re: Ancestry of John Bluet, of Raglan"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 13 Dec 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 13 Dec 2003."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Pichard, of Stradewy Castle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00425298&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1743] Michael K. Blewett, pdf file on the internet, accessed 20 Aug 2005, http://bluett.com/blewett/EarlyEnglandResearch.pdf

John Pichard of Stradewy Castle1,2

M, #60608, d. 1305
FatherSir Roger Pichard of Stradewy Castle4 d. c 1297
MotherJoan/Johana (?)3
Last Edited14 Nov 2020
     John Pichard of Stradewy Castle married Katherine fitz Reynold, daughter of Sir Reginald (Reynold) Fitz Piers Lord of Blaen Llyfni, co. Brecknock and Alice/Amice de Stanford of Stanford Dingley, co. Berks, before 1277.1,2
John Pichard of Stradewy Castle died in 1305.2
     ; KATHERINE FITZ REYNOLD, married JOHN PICHARD, of Stradewy Castle [present day Llanvihangel-Ystrad, co. Cardigan], Wales, and Bishampton and Kington, co. Worcester.1

Family

Katherine fitz Reynold
Child

Citations

  1. [S1544] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson 13 Dec 2003 email "Re: Ancestry of John Bluet, of Raglan"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 13 Dec 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 13 Dec 2003."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Pichard, of Stradewy Castle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00425298&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan (Johana): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00425400&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Roger Pichard, of Stradewi Castle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00425399&tree=LEO

Katherine fitz Reynold1

F, #60609
FatherSir Reginald (Reynold) Fitz Piers Lord of Blaen Llyfni, co. Brecknock1,2 b. 1208, d. 5 May 1285
MotherAlice/Amice de Stanford of Stanford Dingley, co. Berks1,3 d. a 1264
Last Edited14 Nov 2020
     Katherine fitz Reynold married John Pichard of Stradewy Castle, son of Sir Roger Pichard of Stradewy Castle and Joan/Johana (?), before 1277.1,4

Family

John Pichard of Stradewy Castle d. 1305
Child

Citations

  1. [S1544] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson 13 Dec 2003 email "Re: Ancestry of John Bluet, of Raglan"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 13 Dec 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 13 Dec 2003."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Reynold FitzPiers: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00075125&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Katherine: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00425299&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Pichard, of Stradewy Castle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00425298&tree=LEO

(?) Langtrye

M, #60610
ChartsAncestors - Martha Elizabeth HART
ReferenceGAV5
Last Edited3 Dec 2004
     GAV-5.

Family

Children

Citations

  1. [S406] Wm. S. and Robert Rose Bryan, A History of the Pioneer Families of Missouri: With Numerous Sketches, Anecdotes, Adventures, Etc., Relating to Early Days in Missouri. Also the Lives of Daniel Boone and the Celebrated Indian Chief Black Hawk, with Numerous Biographies and Histories of Primitive Institutions (Baltimore, MD: reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc. for Clearfield Company, Inc., 2002, 1935 (original 1876)). Hereinafter cited as Bryan & Rose [1876] History of Pioneer MO Families.

Hillary Langtrye1

M, #60611, d. 1869
Father(?) Langtrye1
Last Edited8 May 2017
     Hillary Langtrye was born at Ireland.1
Hillary Langtrye died in 1869 at Ireland; Bryan & Rose [1876:351]: "In 1861 he returned to his native country and died there in 1869."2
     Hillary Langtrye and William Henry Langtry immigrated on 19 September 1807 to Philadelphia, Philadelphia Co., Pennsylvania, USA; via the Brig Samaritan's Hope
Ancestry.com - Philadelphia, Passenger and Immigration Lists, 1800-1850
Name: William Langtry
Arrival Date: 19 Sep 1807
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia
Port of Departure: Liverpool
Ship Name: Brig Samaritan's Hope
National Archives' Series Number: 425
Microfilm Number: 13
List Number: 215
Source Information:
Ancestry.com. Philadelphia, Passenger and Immigration Lists, 1800-1850 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2003.
Original data: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 1800-1882. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. Micropublication M425, rolls # 1-71.3

Citations

  1. [S406] Wm. S. and Robert Rose Bryan, A History of the Pioneer Families of Missouri: With Numerous Sketches, Anecdotes, Adventures, Etc., Relating to Early Days in Missouri. Also the Lives of Daniel Boone and the Celebrated Indian Chief Black Hawk, with Numerous Biographies and Histories of Primitive Institutions (Baltimore, MD: reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc. for Clearfield Company, Inc., 2002, 1935 (original 1876)). Hereinafter cited as Bryan & Rose [1876] History of Pioneer MO Families.
  2. [S406] Wm. S. and Robert Rose Bryan, Bryan & Rose [1876] History of Pioneer MO Families, p. 351.
  3. [S2354] Ancestry.Com Web Site, online http://search.ancestry.com/, Passenger record seen on Ancestry.com on 5 Sept 2014 at http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=philadelphia359&h=44921&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt&ssrc=gr_t68721256_p42186599201_ktidz0q3d68721256z0q26pidz0q3d42186599201z0q26hidz0q3d83154216371z0q26dbidz0q3d7483z0q26rpidz0q3d44921z0q26hfz0q3dAllHintsz0q26pnz0q3d1z0q26hsz0q3dlastz0q26ssrcz0q3dgrz0q26pgz0q3d32880z0q26pgplz0q3dtidz0q257cpidz0q257chidz0q257cdbidz0q257crpidz0q257chfz0q257cpnz0q257chsz0q257cssrcz0q26pgpsz0q3d42186599201_h83154216371

    Image of passenger manifest seen on Ancestry.com on 5 Sept 2013 at http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/24617116/photo/oF0c3!IRBHR65oWmXXzcZXN3uuRKsTCyS9K9OjTqENisqbh5MxMd0TB2kbEFssQ2. Hereinafter cited as Ancestry.Com Web Site.

Suero Téllez (?) de Meneses1

M, #60612
FatherTel/Tello Peres (?) Sire de Meneses1
MotherGontrode Garcia de Villamayor1
Last Edited14 Dec 2003

Citations

  1. [S1545] Maria Emma Escobar, "Escobar 14 Dec 2003 email "Medieval Spanish Surname Usage"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 14 Dec 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Escobar email 14 Dec 2003."

Mabel (?) of England1,2

F, #60613, b. circa 1105
FatherHenry I "Beauclerc" (?) King of England1,3,4,5 b. Sep 1068, d. 1 Dec 1135
MotherIsabel (Elizabeth) de Beaumont4,5 b. c 1096, d. a 1172
ReferenceGAV22
Last Edited19 Dec 2020
     Mabel (?) of England married Guillaume III Gouët « Le Jeune» d’Alluyes Seigneur de Montmirail, son of Guillaume II Gouët d’Alluyes Seigneur de Montmirail and Eustachie Crepon.6,2,7,8,9 Mabel (?) of England was born circa 1105.7
     ; NB: Med Lands identifies Mabel as the dau. of Isabel de Beaumont, a mistress of Henry I.4 GAV-22.

; Per Baldwin email: "Mabel, m. Guillaume Gouet III [W4, T4].
[GND(RT) viii, 29 (v. 2, pp. 250-1), which does not give her name; Thompson 148 mentions charter evidence giving her name (which was not Eustacie).]"6

; Per Genealogics: "She has also erroneously been named Eustacie and Richilde."1

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: page 12.
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: page 203.8


; Per Med Lands:
     "daughter . Guillaume de Jumièges records one illegitimate daughter of King Henry I as wife of "Willelmo Goieto"[311].
     "m GUILLAUME [III] Goët de Montmirail, son of GUILLAUME [II] Goët Seigneur de Montmirail et de Château-du-Loir & his wife Eustachie --- (before 1080-). He succeeded his father in [1117] as Seigneur de Montmirail."
Med Lands cites: [311] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XXIX, p. 307.4

; Per Med Lands:
     "GUILLAUME [III] "Mischinus" Goët (before 1079-after 1119). "Eustachia coniuge sua et filiis Guillelmo et Hugone" consented to the donation by "Guillelmus Gogietus et mater eius Mahildis" of property "ex bosco ipsorum de Pertico" by charter dated 1079[804]. "Girardus Brunellus" donated property to Chartres Saint-Père by charter dated to [1092/1120] with the consent of "senioris mei domni Guillelmi Goeth et uxoris eius Eustachie atque filiorum eius Hugonis et Guillelmi", witnessed by "Guillelmus nepos Guillelmi Goeth"[805]. "Guillelmus cognomina Goetus" donated property to Chartres Saint-Père by undated charter which names "uxore mea…Eustachia et filiis meis Guillelmo et Roberto…et filia mea…Mahildi"[806]. "Eustachia uxor Guillelmi Goeti" donated property to Chartres Saint-Père by charter dated to [1101/29] which names "filiorum suorum Guillelmi, Roberti et Mathei"[807]. Seigneur de Montmirail et du Château-du-Loir. "Goharius Meschinus…" witnessed the charter dated 1119 recording an agreement between the monks of "Majoris Monasterii" and "Nivelonem de Fracte Valle"[808].
     "m --- [of England], illegitimate daughter of HENRY I King of England & his mistress ---. Guillaume de Jumièges records one illegitimate daughter of King Henry I as wife of "Willelmo Goieto"[809]."
Med Lands cites:
[804] Marmoutier-Dunois XLIV, p. 41.
[805] Chartres Saint-Père, II, Liber Tertius, 48, p. 504.
[806] Chartres Saint-Père, II, Liber Tertius, 4, p. 471.
[807] Chartres Saint-Père, II, Liber Tertius, 5, p. 472.
[808] Marmoutier-Dunois, Cartæ Prioratuum Dunensium, CLXXIII, p. 163.
[809] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XXIX, p. 307.10


; Per Racines et Histoire (Montmirail): "Guillaume III Gouët d’Alluyes «Le Jeune» («Mischinus») ° avant 1079 + après 1119 et dès 1140 (en Terre Sainte ?) seigneur de Montmirail et de Château-du-Loir (cité donations 1079, 1092/1120 à Saint-Père, 1101/29 ; charte 1119 avec Nivelon de Fréteval)
     ép. dès 1122 Mabille (alias Mabel, Eustachia, Richilde) ° ~1105 (bâtarde du Roi Henry 1er d’Angleterre et de Sybilla Corbet)"

Per Racines et Histoire (Alluyes): "Guillaume III Gouët d’Alluyes «Le Jeune» + après 1119 (1140 ?) seigneur de Montmirail, Alluyes et Château-du-Loir
ép.1122 Mabille (alias Mabel, Eustachia, Richilde) ° ~1088/1105 (Normandie) (fille bâtarde du Roi d’Angleterre Henry 1er et de Sybilla Corbet.)11,12"

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eustacia/Richilde of England: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005954&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs d’ Alluyes, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Alluyes.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20Kings%201066-1603.htm#dauHenryIMGuillameGouetMontmirail. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20Kings%201066-1603.htm#HenryIdied1135B.
  6. [S1538] Stewart Baldwin, "Baldwin 27 November 2003 email "Bastards of Henry I, part 3: daughters"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/4eAiRFBJ4_A/m/kh954g3PRaIJ) to e-mail address, 27 November 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Baldwin email #3 27 November 2003."
  7. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Alluyes.pdf, p. 2.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mabel bastarddaughter of England: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005954&tree=LEO
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume III Gouët: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197095&tree=LEO
  10. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/cfrachacha.htm#GuillaumeIIIGoet
  11. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Montmirail (Gouët), p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Montmirail-Gouet.pdf
  12. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs d’ Alluyes, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Alluyes.pdf
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume Goét IV de Montmirail: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036181&tree=LEO

Guillaume III Gouët « Le Jeune» d’Alluyes Seigneur de Montmirail1

M, #60614, b. before 1080, d. before 1140
FatherGuillaume II Gouët d’Alluyes Seigneur de Montmirail3,2,4,6,7 d. bt 1118 - 1120
MotherEustachie Crepon2,3,4,5 d. 1125
ReferenceGAV2
Last Edited3 Jun 2020
     Guillaume III Gouët « Le Jeune» d’Alluyes Seigneur de Montmirail married Mabel (?) of England, daughter of Henry I "Beauclerc" (?) King of England and Isabel (Elizabeth) de Beaumont.8,9,10,11,3 Guillaume III Gouët « Le Jeune» d’Alluyes Seigneur de Montmirail was born before 1080; Genealogics says b. bef 1080; Med Lands says b. bef 1079.3,4
Guillaume III Gouët « Le Jeune» d’Alluyes Seigneur de Montmirail died before 1140; Racine et Histoire says d. "1140 ?"; Med Lands says d. aft 1119.12,13,4
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "daughter . Guillaume de Jumièges records one illegitimate daughter of King Henry I as wife of "Willelmo Goieto"[311].
     "m GUILLAUME [III] Goët de Montmirail, son of GUILLAUME [II] Goët Seigneur de Montmirail et de Château-du-Loir & his wife Eustachie --- (before 1080-). He succeeded his father in [1117] as Seigneur de Montmirail."
Med Lands cites: [311] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XXIX, p. 307.14 GAV-25.

; Per Wikipédia (Fr.): "Guillaume Gouët III
Fils de Guillaume Gouët II et d'Eustache Crespon, il épouse vers 1122 Mabile, une fille naturelle du roi Henri 1er d’Angleterre12 de laquelle il eut Guillaume, Eustachie et Agnès."
Wikipédia (Fr.) cites: François-Alexandre Aubert de la Chesnaye des Bois & Badier, Dictionnaire de la noblesse, contenant les généalogies, l'histoire & la..., p. 403.15

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:354.
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: page 203.3


; Per Med Lands:
     "GUILLAUME [III] "Mischinus" Goët (before 1079-after 1119). "Eustachia coniuge sua et filiis Guillelmo et Hugone" consented to the donation by "Guillelmus Gogietus et mater eius Mahildis" of property "ex bosco ipsorum de Pertico" by charter dated 1079[804]. "Girardus Brunellus" donated property to Chartres Saint-Père by charter dated to [1092/1120] with the consent of "senioris mei domni Guillelmi Goeth et uxoris eius Eustachie atque filiorum eius Hugonis et Guillelmi", witnessed by "Guillelmus nepos Guillelmi Goeth"[805]. "Guillelmus cognomina Goetus" donated property to Chartres Saint-Père by undated charter which names "uxore mea…Eustachia et filiis meis Guillelmo et Roberto…et filia mea…Mahildi"[806]. "Eustachia uxor Guillelmi Goeti" donated property to Chartres Saint-Père by charter dated to [1101/29] which names "filiorum suorum Guillelmi, Roberti et Mathei"[807]. Seigneur de Montmirail et du Château-du-Loir. "Goharius Meschinus…" witnessed the charter dated 1119 recording an agreement between the monks of "Majoris Monasterii" and "Nivelonem de Fracte Valle"[808].
     "m --- [of England], illegitimate daughter of HENRY I King of England & his mistress ---. Guillaume de Jumièges records one illegitimate daughter of King Henry I as wife of "Willelmo Goieto"[809]."
Med Lands cites:
[804] Marmoutier-Dunois XLIV, p. 41.
[805] Chartres Saint-Père, II, Liber Tertius, 48, p. 504.
[806] Chartres Saint-Père, II, Liber Tertius, 4, p. 471.
[807] Chartres Saint-Père, II, Liber Tertius, 5, p. 472.
[808] Marmoutier-Dunois, Cartæ Prioratuum Dunensium, CLXXIII, p. 163.
[809] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XXIX, p. 307.4


; Per Racines et Histoire (Montmirail): "Guillaume III Gouët d’Alluyes «Le Jeune» («Mischinus») ° avant 1079 + après 1119 et dès 1140 (en Terre Sainte ?) seigneur de Montmirail et de Château-du-Loir (cité donations 1079, 1092/1120 à Saint-Père, 1101/29 ; charte 1119 avec Nivelon de Fréteval)
     ép. dès 1122 Mabille (alias Mabel, Eustachia, Richilde) ° ~1105 (bâtarde du Roi Henry 1er d’Angleterre et de Sybilla Corbet)"

Per Racines et Histoire (Alluyes): "Guillaume III Gouët d’Alluyes «Le Jeune» + après 1119 (1140 ?) seigneur de Montmirail, Alluyes et Château-du-Loir
ép.1122 Mabille (alias Mabel, Eustachia, Richilde) ° ~1088/1105 (Normandie) (fille bâtarde du Roi d’Angleterre Henry 1er et de Sybilla Corbet.)13,12"

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume III Goét: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197095&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs d’ Alluyes, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Alluyes.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume III Gouët: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197095&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/cfrachacha.htm#GuillaumeIIIGoet. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eustace Crepon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197097&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II Gouët: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197096&tree=LEO
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/cfrachacha.htm#GuillaumeIGoet
  8. [S1538] Stewart Baldwin, "Baldwin 27 November 2003 email "Bastards of Henry I, part 3: daughters"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/4eAiRFBJ4_A/m/kh954g3PRaIJ) to e-mail address, 27 November 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Baldwin email #3 27 November 2003."
  9. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  10. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Alluyes.pdf, p. 2.
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mabel bastarddaughter of England: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005954&tree=LEO
  12. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs d’ Alluyes, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Alluyes.pdf
  13. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Montmirail (Gouët), p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Montmirail-Gouet.pdf
  14. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20Kings%201066-1603.htm#dauHenryIMGuillameGouetMontmirail.
  15. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Perche-Gouët: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perche-Gou%C3%ABt#Guillaume_Gou%C3%ABt. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).

Hervé II de Donzy seigneur de Donzy et Saint-Aignan-sur-Cher, comte de Châlons1,2

M, #60615, b. circa 1065, d. between 1120 and 1121
FatherGeoffroi II de Donzy seigneur de Donzy, co-comte de Châlons3,1,4 b. c 1040, d. a 1097
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited9 Aug 2020
     Hervé II de Donzy seigneur de Donzy et Saint-Aignan-sur-Cher, comte de Châlons was born circa 1065.4 He married Mahaut Le Blanc de La Ferté-Milon, daughter of Hugues le Blanc de La Ferté-Milon seigneur de La Ferté-Milon, Braines et Vivières and Helvide (?) de Soissons, after 1106.4
Hervé II de Donzy seigneur de Donzy et Saint-Aignan-sur-Cher, comte de Châlons died between 1120 and 1121.1,4
     GAV-27.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 435.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hervé II de Donzy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139706&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Amboise.pdf, p.3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hervé I de Donzy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139704&tree=LEO
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Donzy.pdf, p. 3.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnès de Donzy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197070&tree=LEO
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Donzy & de Vergy, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Donzy-Vergy.pdf
  7. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison d’ Amboise & Clermont d’Amboise, Bussy, Aubijoux, etc., p.3: Maison d’ Amboise & Clermont d’Amboise, Bussy, Aubijoux, etc.
  8. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdnevers.htm#AgnesDonzyMSulpiceIIAmboise. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Mahaut Le Blanc de La Ferté-Milon1,2

F, #60616
FatherHugues le Blanc de La Ferté-Milon seigneur de La Ferté-Milon, Braines et Vivières3,2
MotherHelvide (?) de Soissons2
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited9 Aug 2020
     Mahaut Le Blanc de La Ferté-Milon married Hervé II de Donzy seigneur de Donzy et Saint-Aignan-sur-Cher, comte de Châlons, son of Geoffroi II de Donzy seigneur de Donzy, co-comte de Châlons, after 1106.2
     GAV-27.

; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 435.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hervé II de Donzy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139706&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Donzy.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues le Blanc de la Ferté: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139708&tree=LEO
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Donzy & de Vergy, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Donzy-Vergy.pdf
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnès de Donzy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197070&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdnevers.htm#AgnesDonzyMSulpiceIIAmboise. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Hugues le Blanc de La Ferté-Milon seigneur de La Ferté-Milon, Braines et Vivières1,2

M, #60617
ReferenceGAV28
Last Edited19 Feb 2010
     Hugues le Blanc de La Ferté-Milon seigneur de La Ferté-Milon, Braines et Vivières married Helvide (?) de Soissons.2
     GAV-28.

; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 435.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues le Blanc de la Ferté: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139708&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Donzy.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Adelaide de Châlons1

F, #60618, d. circa 1080
FatherThibault/Thibaud de Semur comte de de Chaon-sur-Saône1,2,3 b. c 990, d. c 1065
MotherErmentrude (?) d'Autun1,3
ReferenceEDV28
Last Edited6 Nov 2020
     Adelaide de Châlons married Guillaume II de Thiern Seigneur de Thiern.4,5,3
Adelaide de Châlons died circa 1080.3
     EDV28.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:433.6

; Per Med Lands: "ADELAIS de Chalon (-1080 or after). "Domna comitissa Adheleidis [Teudbaldi comitis filia" donated property to Paray-le-Monial with the consent of "domnus Wido de Tier filius eius, domnus Hugo Dalmatius, domnus Gaufredus Donzi" by undated charter[515]. m GUILLAUME de Thiern, son of --- (-after Nov 1083)."
Med Lands cites: [515] Paray-le-Monial 87, p. 46.7

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelaide de Chalon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106075&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thibaut: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106090&tree=LEO
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdbchalo.htm#AdelaisMGuillaumeThiernA. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume de Thiern: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106074&tree=LEO
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AUVERGNE.htm#GuillaumeThiersdiedbefore1080A
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelaide de Châlons: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106075&tree=LEO
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdbchalo.htm#HuguesIIChalondied1078
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Wandelmode de Thiern: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106077&tree=LEO
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy de Thiern: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106078&tree=LEO

Guillaume II de Thiern Seigneur de Thiern1,2

M, #60619, d. before 1075
ReferenceEDV28
Last Edited9 Nov 2020
     Guillaume II de Thiern Seigneur de Thiern married Adelaide de Châlons, daughter of Thibault/Thibaud de Semur comte de de Chaon-sur-Saône and Ermentrude (?) d'Autun.1,2,3
Guillaume II de Thiern Seigneur de Thiern died before 1075.1
     ; Per Med Lands: "ADELAIS de Chalon (-1080 or after). "Domna comitissa Adheleidis [Teudbaldi comitis filia" donated property to Paray-le-Monial with the consent of "domnus Wido de Tier filius eius, domnus Hugo Dalmatius, domnus Gaufredus Donzi" by undated charter[515]. m GUILLAUME de Thiern, son of --- (-after Nov 1083)."
Med Lands cites: [515] Paray-le-Monial 87, p. 46.4 EDV-28.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 433.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume de Thiern: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106074&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AUVERGNE.htm#GuillaumeThiersdiedbefore1080A. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdbchalo.htm#AdelaisMGuillaumeThiernA
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdbchalo.htm#HuguesIIChalondied1078
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Wandelmode de Thiern: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106077&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy de Thiern: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106078&tree=LEO

Guy de Thiern Comte de Châlons1

M, #60620
FatherGuillaume II de Thiern Seigneur de Thiern1,2 d. b 1075
MotherAdelaide de Châlons1 d. c 1080
ReferenceEDV27
Last Edited9 Nov 2020
     EDV-27.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 433.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy de Thiern: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106078&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AUVERGNE.htm#GuillaumeThiersdiedbefore1080A. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy de Thiern: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027379&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdbchalo.htm#GuillaumeChalondiedafter1147B

Blanche (alias Ermengarde) de Donzy1

F, #60621, b. circa 985
FatherGeoffroi II de Semur baron de Semur-en-Brionnais1 b. c 955
MotherMahaut/Mathilde de Châlons Dame de Donzy1 b. bt 968 - 974, d. bt 1016 - 1019
Last Edited19 Feb 2010
     Blanche (alias Ermengarde) de Donzy married Etienne (?) vicomte de Thiers, son of Orbert/Guillaume (?) vicomte de Thiers.1 Blanche (alias Ermengarde) de Donzy was born circa 985.1

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Donzy.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Guillaume II/IV de Châlons Comte de Châlons1,2

M, #60622, d. 3 January 1203
FatherGuillaume II de Châlons Comte de Châlons3,4 d. 1174
ReferenceEDV24
Last Edited6 Nov 2020
     Guillaume II/IV de Châlons Comte de Châlons married Béatrix (?) de Souabe.2
Guillaume II/IV de Châlons Comte de Châlons died on 3 January 1203.1
     EDV-24.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 433.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106082&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Des Barres.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106080&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdbchalo.htm#GuillaumeChalondiedafter1147B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrix: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026469&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdbchalo.htm#BeatrixCtssChalondied1227A

Guillaume II de Châlons Comte de Châlons1,2

M, #60623, d. 1174
FatherGuillaume I de Châlons Comte de Châlon2 d. a 1147
ReferenceEDV25
Last Edited15 Dec 2020
     Guillaume II de Châlons Comte de Châlons died in 1174.2
     EDV-25.

; Per Med Lands:
     "GUILLAUME [II] de Chalon (-[1174]). No primary source has been identified which confirms that Guillaume [II] was the son of Guillaume [I]. There is in fact a difference of opinion about whether there were three comtes de Chalon named Guillaume, as sustained by Du Chesne[541], or only two as indicated by Orbandale[542]. Du Chesne’s position is more probable. Guillaume [I] was already adult when he was named in 1113, although younger than his fellow comte de Chalon Savaric whose name appears before his in the 1113 document. It is unlikely, therefore, that Guillaume [I] was involved in the attacks on Cluny, dated to 1165. The dates of the marriages of the Chalon daughters (see below) also indicate that there were three comtes named Guillaume: Isabelle’s marriage to Hugues de Bourgogne is dated to [1149], Alix’s first marriage to 1164, while Beatrix married firstly in [1186], which suggests that the three belonged to different generations of the family. Guillaume succeeded [his father] as Comte de Chalon. “Odone Burgundiæ Duce et Guillelmo Comite Cabilonensi” subscribed the charter dated 14 Dec 1148 under which Humbert Bishop of Autun consecrated the church of Saint-Lazaire[543]. Hugues le Poitevin’s Histoire de Vézelay records that Louis VII King of France attacked “Guilelmum comitem Cabilonensem” in reprisal for the attacks by “Guilelmus filius eius” against Cluny, in late 1165[544]. The Historia Ludovici VII Regis records that “Guillelmus comes Cabilonensis diaboli vestigia sequens” attacked the church of Cluny and killed monks and that King Louis captured Guillaume and deprived him of his county, granting half to the duke of Burgundy and the other half to the comte de Nevers[545]. The process by which the county was restored to the Chalon family, as well as the timing of this restoration, has not been traced. "Guillielmus...comes Cabilonensis", fearing his end, renounced his rights over Perrecy in favour of Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire by charter dated 1174[546].]
     "m ---. The name of Guillaume's wife is not known. It is possible that she was --- de Miribel-en-Dombes, daughter of ---, assuming that she was the mother of Alix, possible daughter of Guillaume [II], who is recorded as “Dame de Miribel”, and that that Miribel was Miribel-en-Dombes as suggested below.
     "Guillaume [II] & his wife had [two children]:
a) GUILLAUME [III] de Chalon (-3 Jan 1203).
b) [ALIX de Chalon (-before 23 Mar 1187)."

Med Lands cites:
[541] Duchesne (1625) Vergy, pp. 82-5.
[542] Orbandale, Tome I, pp. 269-305.
[543] Duchesne (1625) Vergy, Preuves, p. 115.
[544] Historia Vizeliacensis Monasterii auctore Hugone Pictavino, Liber IV, Spicilegium, Tome III, p. 641.
[545] Orbandale, Tome II, Preuves, p. 83.
[546] Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire, Tome II, CCVI, p. 57.2


Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 433.3 He was living in 1113.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106080&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdbchalo.htm#GuillaumeChalondiedafter1147B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106080&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alix de Thiern: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00201682&tree=LEO

Josserand III/IV "le Gros" de Brancion Seigneur de Brancion et d'Uxelles1,2

M, #60624, d. 1190
FatherBernard V Grossus de Brancion Seigneur de Brancion2,3
MotherErmengard (?) de Lorraine3,2
Last Edited15 Dec 2020
     Josserand III/IV "le Gros" de Brancion Seigneur de Brancion et d'Uxelles married Alix de Thiern Dame de Miribel, daughter of Guillaume II de Châlons Comte de Châlons, in 1164.4
Josserand III/IV "le Gros" de Brancion Seigneur de Brancion et d'Uxelles died in 1190.4
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 433.4

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Josserand III 'le Gros': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00201681&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#JosserandGrossusB. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#BernardVGrossusdied1147
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Josserand III 'le Gros': http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00201681&tree=LEO

Ulric/Olry II (?) Sire de Bauge et de Bresse1,2,3

M, #60625, d. before 1220
Last Edited25 Apr 2004
     Ulric/Olry II (?) Sire de Bauge et de Bresse married Alexandrine de Vienne, daughter of Gérard I (?) Cte de Mâcon et de Vienne and Guigonne/Maurette (?) de Salins, in 1188; his 2nd wife.4,2,3 Ulric/Olry II (?) Sire de Bauge et de Bresse married Alix de Thiern Dame de Miribel, daughter of Guillaume II de Châlons Comte de Châlons, in 1198; her 2nd husband; his 1st wife.1,3
Ulric/Olry II (?) Sire de Bauge et de Bresse died before 1220.1,2,3
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III/1 122.1

; Sire Ulric=Olry II de Baugé et de Bresse, +ca 1220; 1m: 1198 Alix de Thiern, Dame de Miribel; 2m: 1188 Alexandrine de Vienne (+after 1242.)3

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ulric II de Baugé: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064593&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Ivrea 4 Page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/ivrea/ivrea4.html
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Bauge Page (family de Baugé): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/bauge.html
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alexandrine de Vienne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064592&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raynald IV de Baugé: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00201677&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy de Baugé: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026432&tree=LEO

Alexandrine de Vienne1,2

F, #60626, d. 1242
FatherGérard I (?) Cte de Mâcon et de Vienne1,3,2,4 b. 1125, d. 15 Sep 1184
MotherGuigonne/Maurette (?) de Salins1,2,5 b. 1114, d. a 1218
Last Edited30 Dec 2019
     Alexandrine de Vienne married Ulric/Olry II (?) Sire de Bauge et de Bresse in 1188; his 2nd wife.1,2,6
Alexandrine de Vienne died in 1242.1,2
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III/1 122.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alexandrine de Vienne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064592&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Ivrea 4 Page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/ivrea/ivrea4.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerard I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027396&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#GeraudIMaconViennedied1184B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guyonne de Salins: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027397&tree=LEO
  6. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Bauge Page (family de Baugé): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/bauge.html
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raynald IV de Baugé: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00201677&tree=LEO

Alice Fitz Duncan Lady of Cockermouth and Allerdale1,2

F, #60627, d. before 18 March 1215
FatherWilliam Fitz Duncan Earl of Moray, Lord of Skipton1,2 b. bt 1092 - 1094, d. bt 1153 - 1154
MotherAlice de Rumilly Lady of Skipton1,2,3 d. 1187
Last Edited9 May 2009
     Alice Fitz Duncan Lady of Cockermouth and Allerdale married Gilbert Pipard Sheriff of Gloucestershire.4,1,2 Alice Fitz Duncan Lady of Cockermouth and Allerdale married Robert de Courtenay Lord of Sutton Courtenay, son of Renaud de Courtenay Lord of Courtenay and Hawise/Hedwige du Donjon, before 8 December 1195; her 2nd husband.4,2,1,5
Alice Fitz Duncan Lady of Cockermouth and Allerdale died before 18 March 1215.1
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 629
2. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: 154.1

Family 1

Gilbert Pipard Sheriff of Gloucestershire d. bt Sep 1191 - 1192

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice FitzDuncan: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076162&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Dunkeld page (The House of Dunkeld): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/dunkeld.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice de Rumilly: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076168&tree=LEO
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert Courtenay, of Sutton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076159&tree=LEO

Gilbert Pipard Sheriff of Gloucestershire1

M, #60628, d. between September 1191 and 1192
Last Edited15 Dec 2003
     Gilbert Pipard Sheriff of Gloucestershire married Alice Fitz Duncan Lady of Cockermouth and Allerdale, daughter of William Fitz Duncan Earl of Moray, Lord of Skipton and Alice de Rumilly Lady of Skipton.2,3,4
Gilbert Pipard Sheriff of Gloucestershire died between September 1191 and 1192.1
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: 154.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gilbert Pipard: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076163&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice FitzDuncan: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076162&tree=LEO
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Dunkeld page (The House of Dunkeld): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/dunkeld.html

(?) de Hythus1

F, #60629
FatherAdam de Hythus2
Last Edited15 Dec 2003
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Burke's Guide to the Royal Family London, 1973 , Reference: page 316.
2. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant,forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Sir Bernard Burke, Reference: page 555.3

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William I 'the Lion': http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00002868&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Dunkeld page (The House of Dunkeld): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/dunkeld.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN de Hythus: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00002889&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret of Scotland: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00002890&tree=LEO

Adam de Hythus1

M, #60630
Last Edited15 Dec 2003

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Dunkeld page (The House of Dunkeld): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/dunkeld.html