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     Isabel (Elizabeth) de Beaumont married Gilbert Fitz Gilbert de Clare 1st Earl of Pembroke, son of Gilbert fitz Richard de Clare 2nd Earl of Clare, Lord of Tunbridge and Adeliza (Adelaide, Alice) de Clermont,
; her 1st husband.^5,2 Isabel (Elizabeth) de Beaumont was born circa 1096 at England. She married Herve de Montmorency Constable of Ireland, son of Bouchard III/IV de Montmorency seigneur de Montmorency, Marly, Ecouen, Verneuil, Saint-Brice, Epinay et Hérouville and Adeliza (Adelaide, Alice) de Clermont,
; her 2nd husband.^2,6
Isabel (Elizabeth) de Beaumont died after 1172.⁷
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "HENRY of England, son of WILLIAM I "the Conqueror" King of England & his wife Mathilde de Flandre ([Selby, Yorkshire Sep 1068]-Château de Lyon-la-Forêt, near Rouen 1 Dec 1135, bur Reading Abbey, Berkshire[123]). Orderic Vitalis names “Rotbertum...et Ricardum, Willermum et Henricum” as the sons of “Willermus Normanniæ dux” and his wife “Mathildem Balduini ducis Flandrensium filiam, neptem...ex sorore Henrici regis Francorum”[124]. Guillaume of Jumièges records that Duke Guillaume and his wife “Balduinum Flandriæ comitem...filiam regali ex genere descendente...Mathilde” had “filios quatuor Robertum...Willelmum...Richardum...et Henricum”, adding that Henry succeeded his brothers “tam Regi, quam Duci”[125]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Mathildem conjugem suam” gave birth to “filium...Henricum” within one year of her coronation in May 1068[126]. Comte de Coutances: Orderic Vitalis records that “Henricus Clito Constantiniensis comes” visited England to request “terram matris suæ” from his brother King William II, dated to [1088][127]. Guillaume of Jumièges records that ”Henricus” reconquered “comitatum Constantiniensem”, which had been taken from him, with the help of “Richardi de Revers et Rogerii de Magna-villa...Hugo comes Cestrensis”[128]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Henricus clito” governed “Abrincas et Cæsarisburgum et Constantiam atque Guabreium” [Avranches, Cherbourg, Coutances, Gavray][129]. Seigneur de Domfront 1092: Orderic Vitalis records that “Henricus Guillelmi regis filius” captured “Danfrontem oppidum” in 1092[130]. He succeeded his brother 3 Aug 1100 as HENRY I “Beauclerc” King of England, taking prompt action to ensure his succession by taking control of the royal treasure at Winchester. Florence of Worcester records that "iunior frater suus Heinricus" succeeded King William II and was crowned "Non Aug" in Westminster Abbey[131]. Orderic Vitalis records that he was crowned at Westminster Abbey 5 Aug 1100[132]. He married the niece of the last Saxon claimant to the throne of England to appease the English. After consolidating his position in England, he crossed the Channel to subdue Normandy in 1105[133]. He defeated his brother Robert at Tinchebrai and declared himself Duke of Normandy 28 Sep 1106. Henry turned his attention to strengthening the position of the crown in the newly united country, creating the Exchequer to improve control over finances, and ensuring that his own supporters filled the potentially powerful positions of county sheriffs. However, tensions increased with the barons, setting the scene for the civil war which followed Henry's death, his male heir having drowned in the White Ship disaster in 1120. The Chronicæ Sancti Albini records the death "1135 III Non Dec" of "Henricus rex Angliæ"[134]. The Continuator of Florence of Worcester records the death "IV Non Dec" in [1135] and his burial at Reading[135]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "IV Non Dec" of "Henricus rex Anglorum"[136]. William of Newburgh records the burial of King Henry I "apud Radingam in monasterio"[137].
     "m firstly (Westminster Abbey 11 Nov 1100) EADGYTH of Scotland, daughter of MALCOLM III "Caennmor/Bighead" King of Scotland & his wife Margaret of England (1079-Palace of Westminster 1 May 1118, bur Westminster Abbey[138]). Orderic Vitalis records that their mother sent Eadgyth and her sister Mary to be brought up by her sister Christina, nun at Romsey Abbey[139]. Florence of Worcester records the marriage of King Henry and "regis Scottorum Malcolmi et Margaretæ reginæ filiam Mahtildem" and her coronation as queen in a passage dealing with events in late 1100[140]. She adopted the name MATILDA on her marriage. Orderic Vitalis records that King Henry I married “Mathildem quæ prius dicta est Edith”[141]. Crowned Queen Consort 11 or 14 Nov 1100. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "Kal Mai" of "Matildis Anglorum regina"[142]. The Continuator of Florence of Worcester records the death "Kal Mai " at Westminster of "Mahthildis regina Anglorum", and her burial at Westminster Abbey[143].
     "m secondly (Royal Chapel, Windsor Castle 29 Jan or 2 Feb 1121) ADELISA de Louvain, daughter of GODEFROI V "le Barbu" Duke of Lower Lotharingia, Comte de Louvain & his first wife Ida de Chiny Ctss de Namur ([1103/06]-Afflighem Abbey 23/24 Mar or 23 Apr 1151, bur Afflighem Abbey). The Continuator of Florence of Worcester records the marriage "IV Kal Feb" [1121] of King Henry and "Atheleidem filiam Godefridi ducis Lotharingæ puellam virginem" and her coronation as queen "III Kal Feb"[144]. Orderic Vitalis names her and her father[145]. William of Newburgh records the second marriage of King Henry I and "filiam ducis Lotharingie", noting that the marriage was childless[146]. The Genealogia Ducum Brabantiæ Heredum Franciæ names (in order) "Alaida…Anglorum regina…comitissa de Cleves Ida…[et] Clarissia virgo" as the three daughters of "Godefridus Cum-barba"[147]. The Balduini Ninovensis Chronicon records the marriage of "Henricus rex Anglorum" and "Athelam filiam Godefridi ducis Lotharingie" in 1121[148]. She was crowned Queen Consort at Westminster Abbey 30 Jan or 3 Feb 1121. The Continuatio Chronici Afflegemiensis records that “Godefridus cum barba Dux Lotharingiæ…filia…Aleidis” married “Regi Angliæ” in 1121[149]. The castle and honour of Arundel was settled on Queen Adelisa after her first husband died. She married secondly ([1136/Sep 1139]) William d’Aubigny [de Albini], who was created Earl of Arundel soon after his marriage. Robert of Torigny records that "Willermi de Albinaio quem vocant comitem de Arundel" married "Aelizam reginam relictam Henrici senioris regis Anglorum"[150]. Adelisa became a nun at Affleghem Abbey, near Aalst in Brabant in 1149/50. The Annals of Margan record the death in 1151 of “Adelidis, regina secunda Henrici regis”[151]. The Continuatio Chronici Afflegemiensis records that “Godefridus cum barba Dux Lotharingiæ…filia…Aleidis” died “IX Kal Mai” and was buried at Afflighem after the death of her second husband[152]. The necrology of Lyre monastery records the death "25 Mar" of "Adelicia regina"[153].
     "Mistress (1): ---, a woman from Caen. The name of King Henry's first mistress is not known. Her origin is assumed because her son is styled "Robertus de Cadomo " by Orderic Vitalis. A possible family connection of hers is suggested by the undated charter, arranged with charters dated 1127/28 in the compilation, under which Henry I King of England confirmed an exchange of property between the abbot of Fécamp and "Nigello filio Willelmi, nepote Roberti comitis Gloecestrie filii mei", "Nigellus" donating property "in villa Fiscanni habuit et avus et pater eius"[154]. The wording of the document is incompatible with "Willelmi" being another son of King Henry I. The relationship with Robert Earl of Gloucester must presumably therefore be established through Robert´s mother. The alternatives appear to be that William, father of Nigel, was the son of Robert´s mother by a later marriage (and therefore uterine half-brother of Earl Robert), that William´s wife was her daughter by a later marriage (uterine half-sister of Earl Robert), or that the word nepos denotes a more remote blood relationship and that Nigel was the first or second cousin of Earl Robert. Another relative of Robert Earl of Gloucester was Christiana, who married, as his first wife, William FitzAlan. Orderic Vitalis records that "William fitz Alan castellan and vicecomes of Shrewsbury" married "a niece of Robert Earl of Gloucester"[155]. "William Fitz Alan" donated the fishery of Upton-upon-Severn to Haughmond abbey by undated charter, witnessed by "Walter his brother, Christiana his wife…"[156].
     "Mistress (2): EDITH, daughter of ---. The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Walterus de tribus Minetis" holding land of "Edith matris comitisse de Ptico" in Devonshire[157].
     "Mistress (3): ANSFRIDE, widow of ANSKILL, daughter of --- (-bur Abingdon Abbey). The Chronicle of Abingdon names "Anskillus" and "uxore Anskilli iam defuncti…filio eius…Willelmo" adding that "fratrem regis Henricum" was father of her son "Ricardum", in a later passage naming her "Ansfrida" when recording her death and the donation of the mill at Langford by "Willelmus filius eiusdem…de Anskillo marito suo" for her burial at Abingdon[158]. Her husband was a knight, tenant of Abingdon Abbey, who died following a few days of harsh treatment after being imprisoned by King William II.
     "[Mistress (4): ---. The Complete Peerage suggests that the mother of Sibyl Queen of Scotland was Sibyl Corbet[159], who is shown below as Mistress (5). As explained more fully below under her daughter Queen Sibyl, this suggestion is not ideal from a chronological point of view. In summary, Sibyl Corbet´s son, Renaud Earl of Cornwall, was probably not born before [1110] considering that his marriage is dated to [1141]. If that is correct, the only way in which he could have had the same mother as the queen of Scotland would be if the latter was a young girl at the time of her marriage. In addition, the birth of Herbert FitzHerbert, son of Sibyl Corbet by her marriage, is estimated to [1125/35] (see the document UNTITLED ENGLISH NOBILITY D-K), which appears incompatible with Sibyl also having been the mother of Queen Sibyl. On the other hand, "Robert Corbet" witnessed charters in Scotland which are dated to the reign of King Alexander and the early years of the reign of his brother King David (see UNTITLED ENGLISH NOBILITY A-C). If Robert Corbet had been Queen Sibyl´s maternal grandfather or her maternal uncle, this could account for his presence at the Scottish court at the time.]
     "Mistress (5): SIBYL Corbet, daughter of ROBERT Corbet of Alcester, co Warwick & his [first] wife --- ([1090/95]-after 1157). The Complete Peerage deduces her parentage, relationship with King Henry, and her marriage from a charter, dated to [1163/75], under which her son "Reginaldus, Henrici Regis filius, comes Cornubiæ" granted property to "Willielmo de Boterell, filio Aliziæ Corbet, materteræ meæ" which he had granted to "Willielmo de Boterells in Cornubia, patri…predicti Willielmi" on his marriage, witnessed by "Nicholao filio meo…Herberto filio Herberti, Baldwino et Ricardo nepotibus meis, Willelmo de Vernun, Willielmo fratre meo…Hugone de Dunstanvill…"[160]. She married ([1115/25]) Herbert FitzHerbert. The [1125/35] birth date range estimated for her son Herbert, born from this marriage, indicates that she married after her relationship with the king. The Pipe Roll of 1157 records a payment to "the mother of Earl Reginald" from an estate at Mienes, Sussex[161].
     "Mistress (6): EDITH, daughter of ---. Symeon of Durham names "Rodberto filio Edæ et Henrici regis notho"[162]. The Complete Peerage[163] identifies her as the probable daughter of Forn Sigurdson Lord of Greystoke, Cumberland. If this is correct, she married Robert de Oilly of Hook Norton, constable of Oxford Castle, son of Nigel [III] de Oilly of Hook Norton, Oxfordshire & his wife Agnes --- (-1142). The suggestion is presumably based on the undated charter under which “Robertus Henrici regis filius” donated property to Oseney Abbey, Oxfordshire, with the consent of "Henrici de Oleio fratris mei”[164]. However, “Editha, Roberto de Oilly conjugali copula juncta” donated property to Thame Abbey, for the souls of “Henrici et Gilberti filiorum meorum”, by undated charter witnessed by “Fulco de Oilly, Fulco Luval, Henrico filio Roberti filii Aumari”[165]. If Edith, wife of Robert de Oilly, was the same person as the mother of King Henry´s son Robert, it is unclear why she would not have named her son Robert in this charter.
     "Mistresses (7) - (12): ---. The names of these mistresses of King Henry are not known.
     "Mistress (13): NESTA of South Wales, wife of GERALD FitzWalter of Windsor custodian of Pembroke Castle, daughter of RHYS ap Tewdwr Prince of South Wales & his wife Gwladus ---. Giraldus Cambrensis names "Henricus…regi Henrici primi filius…ex nobili Nesta, Resi filii Theodori filia" in South Wales[166]. She was abducted by Owain son of Cadwgan ap Bleddyn from castle Ceanrth Bychan in 1109.
     "Mistresses (14): ---. The name of this mistress of King Henry is not known.
     "Mistress (15): ISABELLE de Beaumont, daughter of ROBERT de Beaumont Comte de Meulan, Earl of Leicester & his wife Isabelle de Vermandois ([1102/07]-). Guillaume de Jumièges records one illegitimate daughter of King Henry I as daughter of "Elizabeth sorore Waleranni comitis Mellenti"[167]. She married Gilbert FitzGilbert de Clare Earl of Pembroke. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Giselbertus filius Gisleberti" married “sororem Waleranni comitis Mellenti...Elizabeth” by whom he had “filium primogenitum...Richardum”[168]. Henry II King of England confirmed the donations to the nuns of Saint-Saens by "Isabel comitissa qui fuit uxor Gilleberti comitis" by charter dated to [1172/1182][169]."
Med Lands cites: She and Henry I "Beauclerc" (?) King of England were associated; Mistress.⁸ GAV-24 EDV-23 GKJ-24.

; Elizabeth de Beaumont; 1m: Gilbert de Clare, Earl of Pembroke (*1100 +1149); 2m: Herve de Montmorency, Constable of Ireland; Elizabeth was also mistress of King Henry I.²

; mistress of Henry I.¹

; weis 66-25.⁹
; Per Med Lands:
     "[daughter (1102-). Daughter of Robert, Orderic Vitalis records that she was betrothed by her father to Amaury nephew of Guillaume Comte d'Evreux when only one year old but "various circumstances arose which prevented the marriage"[1652]. The identity of the daughter is unknown, but she may have been Isabelle (see below). She is named "Aline" in Europäische Stammtafeln[1653], but the source for this is not known. If it is correct, she was probably the same person as the daughter Adeline (see below).
     "Betrothed (1103) to AMAURY [III] de Montfort, son of SIMON [I] Seigneur de Montfort-l'Amaury & his third wife Agnès d'Evreux (-[18/19] Apr [1137/38], bur Abbaye de Haute-Bruyère). He succeeded his brother after [1104] as Seigneur de Montfort-l'Amaury, and after 1118 succeeded his maternal uncle as Comte d'Evreux.]"
Med Lands cites: Isabel (Elizabeth) de Beaumont is mentioned regarding the engagement of NN de Beaumont and Amauri III de Montfort seigneur de Montfort-l'Amaury, comte d'Évreux circa 1103.^10,11

     Isabel Fitz John married Robert de Vespont Lord of Westmorland, son of John de Vipont Lord of Appleby and Sibyl de Ferrers.²
Isabel Fitz John was born circa 1238. She was born circa 1240 at Shere, co. Surrey, England.³
      ; Weis 82-30. GAV-21 EDV-21 GKJ-21.

.⁴

     Sir Ralph le Bigod of Settrington was born circa 1216 at Thetford, co. Norfolk, England.³ He married Bertha de Ferrers, daughter of William de Ferrers 4th Earl of Derby, Lord of Abergavenny and Agnes Kevelioc of Chester, Lady of Chartley, after 1238
; her 2nd husband (per Weis), Her 1st husband d. ca 1238.^4,5,2
Sir Ralph le Bigod of Settrington died before 28 July 1260 at Sttrington, East Riding, Yorkshire, England.^2,3

     Sir Richard de Clare 5th Earl of Hertford, 5th Earl of Gloucester was buried at Tewkesbury, Tewkesbury Borough, Gloucestershire, England.¹ He married Margaret de Burgh, daughter of Hubert de Burgh 1st Earl of Kent and Margaret de Huntingdon.^5,6,7
Sir Richard de Clare 5th Earl of Hertford, 5th Earl of Gloucester was born on 4 August 1222 at Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England.^8,9 He married Maude de Lacy Countess of Lincoln, daughter of John de Lacy of Hatton, 1st Earl of Lincoln and Margaret de Quincy Countess of Lincoln, circa 25 January 1237
; his 2nd wife.^8,1,10,2,11
Sir Richard de Clare 5th Earl of Hertford, 5th Earl of Gloucester died in 1262.⁵
Sir Richard de Clare 5th Earl of Hertford, 5th Earl of Gloucester died on 15 July 1262 at Canterbury, co. Kent, England, at age 39.^8,1
     He was Earl of Clare, Gloucester.¹² He was 8th Earl of Clare, Earl of Hertford, & Gloucester.^13,8 GAV-20 EDV-20 GKJ-20.

; Earl of Clare, Hertford, and Gloucester.^13,14

; Weis 63-29.⁸

     Maude de Lacy Countess of Lincoln was born circa 1223 at Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England.⁶ She married Sir Richard de Clare 5th Earl of Hertford, 5th Earl of Gloucester, son of Sir Gilbert de Clare 7th Earl of Clare, 5th Earl of Hertford, 4th Earl of Gloucester and Isabel Marshal, circa 25 January 1237
; his 2nd wife.^7,8,4,2,3
Maude de Lacy Countess of Lincoln died before 10 March 1289.^7,1
      ; Weis AR 54-30.⁹ GAV-20 EDV-20 GKJ-20.

     Roese de Clare married Sir Roger de Mowbray Knt., 1st Lord Mowbray of Thirsk, son of Sir Roger de Mowbray Knt., Baron of Thirsk, Yorkshire and Maud de Beauchamp, after 15 July.^3,2,1
Roese de Clare was born circa 1255 at Tonebridge, co. Suffolk, England; per Richardson: "under 15 years of age in July 1270."^4,1
Roese de Clare died after 1316.⁵
     EDV-20 GKJ-20.

; living 1316.⁴

     Thomas de Clare Earl, of Thomnd in Connaught was born circa 1245 at Tonebridge, co. Suffolk, England.² He was born circa 1248 at Incheguin. He married Juliane Fitz Maurice of Dublin, daughter of Maurice "Mael, the Bald" Fitz Maurice 3rd Lord of Offaly and Matilda de Prendergast, in 1276.^3,4

Thomas de Clare Earl, of Thomnd in Connaught died in 1287 at Ireland.⁵
Thomas de Clare Earl, of Thomnd in Connaught died on 29 August 1287 at co. Clare, Province of Munster, Ireland.²
     He was Governor of London.⁵

; Weis AR 54-31.⁶ He was Earl of Thomnd in Connaught. GAV-19 EDV-20 GKJ-19. He was Lord of Inchequin and Youchae.³

; Lord of Inchequin and Youghae

Complete Peerage vol 3 p 291

Collins RA: Governor of London, Lord of Inchequin and Youghae. was killed in
battle in Ireland

Governor of London.^5,7,8,9

     Margaret de Clare Countess of Cornwall was born between 1292 and 1293; aged variously 18, 20, 21, 22 in 1314.^1,3 She married Peter de Gaveston Earl of Cornwall, Lord of the Isle of Wight, son of Sir Ernaud de Gaveston and Clarmunda (?) de Marsau et de Louvigny, on 1 November 1307
; her 1st husband.^7,8,3 Margaret de Clare Countess of Cornwall married Sir Hugh de Audley Knt., 8th Earl of Gloucester, son of Sir Hugh de Audley Knt., Lord Audley, of Stratton, Oxfordshire and Isolde/Iseult de Mortimer, on 28 April 1317 at King's Chapel, Windsor, Berkshire, England.^8,2,3

Margaret de Clare Countess of Cornwall died on 9 April 1342.^1,3
Margaret de Clare Countess of Cornwall was buried after 9 April 1342 at Tonbridge Prioy, co. Kent, England.¹
     GAV-18 EDV18 GKJ-19.

; weis 9-30.

; age 22 at time of her brother's death.^9,10

     Margaret (Margery) (?) of Guines was born in 1262.⁹ She married Richard 'the Red' de Burgh 2nd Earl of Ulster and Connaught, son of Walter de Burgh 1st Earl of Ulster, Lord of Connaught and Avelina Fitz John, before 27 February 1281.^10,11,1,7

Margaret (Margery) (?) of Guines died in 1304.^10,12,1,7
     EDV-22 GKJ-20.

Margaret (Margery) (?) of Guines lived at Guines, France (now).⁹

; Ravilious discussion 3 of parents of Margaret, wife of Richard de Burgh:
     "Dear Douglas, et al., Thanks for that very good post.
     "This identification of David II, King of Scots as 'kinsman' by Jean II, King of France provides good supportfor J. C. Parsons' theory that Margaret/Marguerite, wife of Richard de Burgh, was the daughter of Arnold III of Guines. Further, your chart showing the two kings as 4th cousins (1x removed) is accurate, based on this identification.
     "The ancestry of Jean II of France is quite helpful in supporting this identification, as it is well-known through his great-great grandparents, and provides noevidence of another possible link outside the Dreux, de Coucy and de St. Valery families. I have reviewed my records concerning the continental descendants of the daughters of Henry of Scotland, Earl of Northumberland and Huntingdon (d. 1152) - gggg grandfather of King David II - and find no descents to Jean II of France. With the exception of the notable gap in David II's Carrick ancestry (his great-grandmother, wife of Neil, Earl of Carrick is unknown) - which is most likely a Scots connection - there is no other avenue for a connection between the two kings not involving Margaret, wife of Richard de Burgh.
     "I have appended below an for Jean II of France for general information and review (an earlier post in this thread gave the AT for David II of Scots). The ancestry of Jean II is quite interesting, esp. in noting that all four grandparents (Charles of Valois, Marguerite of Naples, Robert II of Burgundy and Agnes of France) were male-line Capetians. The rubber stamp for dispensations was evidently in heavy use: Charles of Valois and Marguerite of Naples were 2nd cousins; and Jean II's parents, Philip VI of France and Jeanne of Burgundy, were 1st cousins once removed (3rd & 2nd degree of consanguinity). If the repeats in his ancestry are problematic, I would ask, 'dispensa mea'.
     "Thanks again; yet another great (and helpful) find. Cheers, John *

ANCESTRY OF JEAN II OF FRANCE

1 Jean II of France. Born on 16 Apr 1319.
Jean died in London (prisoner following Battle of Poitiers) on 8 Apr 1364, he was 44.
Occupation: King of France 1350-1364.

2 Philip VI of France. Born in 1293.
Philip VI died on 22 Aug 1350, he was 57.
Occupation: King of France 1328-1350.

first of the Valois Kings of France

In 1313 when Philip VI was 20, he married Jeanne of Burgundy.

3 Jeanne of Burgundy. Born in 1293.
Jeanne died in Paris in 1348, she was 55.

4 Charles of Valois.
Charles died in Nogent-le-Roy, France bef 17 Dec 1325, he was 55. Born on 12 Mar 1270.
Buried in St.-Jacques, Paris.
Occupation: Count of Valois.

Count of Valois, later of Anjou and Maine
French & Papal candidate for King of Aragon during anti-Aragonese crusade of 1285 (Failed)

On 16 Aug 1290 when Charles was 20, he married Margaret of Naples, in Corbeil.

5 Margaret of Naples. Born in 1273.
Margaret died on 31 Dec 1299, she was 26.
Buried in St.-Jacques, Paris.
Occupation: Countess of Anjou and Maine.

6 Robert II of Burgundy. Born in 1248.
Robert II died on 21 Mar 1305, he was 57.
Occupation: Duke of Burgundy.

Robert II married Agnes of France.

7 Agnes of France. Born in 1260.
Agnes died in 1327, she was 67.


8 Philip III 'le Hardi' of France.
Born on 1 May 1245 in Poissy, France.
Philip III 'le Hardi' died in Perpignan, France on 5 Oct 1285, he was 40.
Occupation: King of France 1270-1285.

King of France

he m. lstly Isabella of Aragon,
2ndly Marie of Brabant

On 6 Jul 1262 when Philip III 'le Hardi' was 17, he married Isabella of Aragon, in Clermont, Auvergne.

9 Isabella of Aragon. Born ca 1247.
Isabella died in Cosenza, Italy on 28 Jan 1270, she was 23.
1st wife

10 Charles II 'of Salerno' of Naples. Charles II
died on 5 May 1309 in Naples.
Occupation: King of Naples 1285-1309.

King of Sicily
also Duke of Apulia, and count of Provence, Anjou and Maine (in France)

ceded Anjou and Maine to his son-in-law Charles of Valois, 1290

In 1270 Charles II 'of Salerno' married Maria of Hungary.

11 Maria of Hungary. Maria died on 25 Mar 1323 in Naples.

12 Hugh IV of Burgundy. Born on 9 Mar 1212.
Hugh IV died on 27 Oct 1272, he was 60.
Occupation: Duke of Burgundy 1218-1272.

Crusader, 1240, 1248

ca 1229 when Hugh IV was 16, he married Yolande de Dreux.

13 Yolande de Dreux.
Yolande died on 30 Oct 1248.
Occupation: Countess of Auxonne.

2nd wife

14 Louis IX (St. Louis) of France.
Louis IX died in Tunis, Africa (on Crusade) on 25 Aug 1270, he was 56. Born on 25 Apr 1214.
Occupation: King of France 1226-1270.

On 27 May 1234 when Louis IX (St. Louis) was 20, he married Margaret of Provence.

15 Margaret of Provence. Born ca 1221.
Margaret died in Paris on 21 Dec 1295, she was 74.
Buried in St-Denis.

16 Louis IX (St. Louis) of France.
Louis IX died in Tunis, Africa (on Crusade) on 25 Aug 1270, he was 56. Born on 25 Apr 1214.
Occupation: King of France 1226-1270.

[see #14 above]

17 Margaret of Provence. Born ca 1221.
Margaret died in Paris on 21 Dec 1295, she was 74.
Buried in St-Denis.

[ see # 15 above]

18 Jaime (James) 'el Conquistador' of Aragon.
Born ca 1208.
Jaime died in Valencia, Aragon on 27 Jun 1276, he was 68.
Occupation: King of Aragon 1213-1276.

given into custody of Simon de Montfort at Carcassonne, ca 1210; returned to Catalonia in 1214, under custodianship of the Templars at Monzon [uncle Sancho, regent] by the testament of his mother (1209)
knighted Feb 1221, and married (1stly) to Leonor of Castile

On 8 Sep 1235 when Jaime (James) 'el Conquistador' was 27, he married Yolande of Hungary, in Barcelona, Catalonia.

19 Yolande of Hungary.
Yolande died on 12 Oct 1251 in Huesca, Aragon.

20 Charles of Anjou.
Charles died on 7 Jan 1284, he was 57.
Born in 1227 (posthumous).
Occupation: King of Naples (Sicily) 1265 - 1285.

Count of Anjou and Maine
accompanied his brother King Louis on crusade from Aigues-Mortes, 25 Aug 1248
commander of the left wing of the French army at Mansurah (2nd battle), 11 Feb 1250
given title as King of Sicily and papal mandate against the Hohenstaufen empire;
defeated and slew Manfred at Benevento, 26 Feb 1265/6
captured and executed Conradin, 1268
plans against the Byzantine Empire thwarted by the rebellion of the 'Sicilian Vespers', 30 Mar 1282

On 31 Jan 1246 when Charles was 19, he married Beatrice of Provence.

21 Beatrice of Provence. Born in 1231.
Beatrice died on 23 Sep 1267, she was 36.
Occupation: Countess of Provence.

youngest sister; designated heiress of Provence

22 Stephen V of Hungary.
Stephen V died in 1272.
Occupation: King of Hungary 1270-1272.

Stephen V married Elizabeth of the Kumans.

23 Elizabeth of the Kumans.

24 Eudes III of Burgundy. Born in 1166.
Eudes III died on 6 Jul 1218, he was 52.
Occupation: Duke of Burgundy 1193-1218.

In 1199 when Eudes III was 33, he married Alix de Vergy.

25 Alix de Vergy. Alix died on 8 Mar 1250.

26 Robert III de Dreux. Born in 1185.
Robert III died on 3 Mar 1233, he was 48.
Occupation: Count of Dreux.

Count of Dreux

In regard to the English lands of Aenor de St. Valery
his wife, Keats-Rohan
wrote: ' Robert consistently supported Philip Augustus against King John, but made his peace with Henry III in 1217. He became Count of Dress [sic] in 1218 and in February 1219 was awarded the lands that Thomas of St. Valery had held in England. By the end of 1226, as he had again chosen to side with France, Henry III seized all his English lands.'

King Henry III granted these lands to his brother Richard, Earl of Cornwall in 1227

Robert III married Aenor de St. Valery.

27 Aenor de St. Valery.
Aenor died aft 15 Nov 1250.

heiress of her father

28 Louis VIII of France. Born on 5 Sep 1187.
Louis VIII died in Montpensier on 8 Nov 1226, he was 39.
Occupation: King of France 1223-1226.

On 23 May 1200 when Louis VIII was 12, he married Blanche of Castile, in Abbey of Port-Mort, Normandy.

29 Blanche of Castile. Born on 4 Mar 1188 in castle of Palencia, Castile.
Blanche died in Melun on 26 Nov 1252, she was 64.

brought the county of Evreux as her dowry (maritagium), through the arrangement between John of England and Amauri de Montfort, former Count of Evreux (later Earl of Gloucester - see #8656)

name originally Blanca (Castilian), changed to Blanche due to her marriage in France

30 Ramon-Berengar IV of Provence. Born in 1198.
Ramon-Berengar IV died on 19 Aug 1245, he was 47.
Occupation: Count of Provence.

also styled Ramon Berengar IV of Provence (evidently not including the brother of Alfonso II of Aragon/Alfons I of Provence in the list of Counts of Provence)

In Dec 1220 when Ramon-Berengar IV was 22, he married Beatrice of Savoy.

31 Beatrice of Savoy. Born in 1198.
Beatrice died in Dec 1266, she was 68.

32 Louis VIII of France. Born on 5 Sep 1187.
Louis VIII died in Montpensier on 8 Nov 1226, he was 39.
Occupation: King of France 1223-1226.

On 23 May 1200 when Louis VIII was 12, he married Blanche of Castile, in Abbey of Port-Mort, Normandy.

33 Blanche of Castile. Born on 4 Mar 1188 in castle of Palencia, Castile.
Blanche died in Melun on 26 Nov 1252, she was 64.

brought the county of Evreux as her dowry (maritagium), through the arrangement between John of England and Amauri de Montfort, former Count of Evreux (later Earl of Gloucester - see #8656)

name originally Blanca (Castilian), changed to Blanche due to her marriage in France

34 Ramon-Berengar IV of Provence. Born in 1198.
Ramon-Berengar IV died on 19 Aug 1245, he was 47.
Occupation: Count of Provence.

also styled Ramon Berengar IV of Provence (evidently not including the brother of Alfonso II of Aragon/Alfons I of Provence in the list of Counts of Provence)

In Dec 1220 when Ramon-Berengar IV was 22, he married Beatrice of Savoy.

35 Beatrice of Savoy. Born in 1198.
Beatrice died in Dec 1266, she was 68.

36 Pedro II 'el Catolico' of Aragon.
Pedro II died on 12 Sep 1213 in Battle of Muret.
Occupation: King of Aragon and count of Catalonia 1196-1213.

Pere I, Count of Catalonia
crowned King of Aragon at Rome, 1204
joined Alfonso VIII of Castile, defeating Almohads at Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa (1212)
maintained suzerainty over Carcassonne (accepted Simon de Montfort's fealty in 1209 after its fall in Albigensian crusade)
killed in battle of Muret against Simon de Montfort, 1213

In 1204 Pedro II 'el Catolico' married Marie of Montpellier.

37 Marie of Montpellier. Born in 1182.
Marie died in Rome on 21 Apr 1213, she was 31.
Buried in Cathedral of St. Peter, Rome.

heiress of Montpellier

38 Andrew II of Hungary.
Andrew II died in 1235.
Occupation: King of Hungary 1201-1235.

King of Hungary

he m. lstly Gertrude of Meran,
2ndly Yolande de Courtenay

Andrew II married Yolande of Courtenay.

39 Yolande of Courtenay.

40 Louis VIII of France. Born on 5 Sep 1187.
Louis VIII died in Montpensier on 8 Nov 1226, he was 39.
Occupation: King of France 1223-1226.

On 23 May 1200 when Louis VIII was 12, he married Blanche of Castile, in Abbey of Port-Mort, Normandy.

41 Blanche of Castile.
Born on 4 Mar 1188 in castle of Palencia, Castile.
Blanche died in Melun on 26 Nov 1252, she was 64.

brought the county of Evreux as her dowry (maritagium), through the arrangement between John of England and Amauri de Montfort, former Count of Evreux (later Earl of Gloucester - see #8656)

name originally Blanca (Castilian), changed to Blanche due to her marriage in France

42 Ramon-Berengar IV of Provence. Born in 1198.
Ramon-Berengar IV died on 19 Aug 1245, he was 47.
Occupation: Count of Provence.

also styled Ramon Berengar IV of Provence (evidently not including the brother of Alfonso II of Aragon/Alfons I of Provence in the list of Counts of Provence)

In Dec 1220 when Ramon-Berengar IV was 22, he married Beatrice of Savoy.

43 Beatrice of Savoy. Born in 1198.
Beatrice died in Dec 1266, she was 68.

44 Bela IV of Hungary. Bela IV died on 3 May 1270.
Occupation: King of Hungary 1235-1270.

In 1218 Bela IV married Maria Lascaris.

45 Maria Lascaris. Maria died in 1270.

46 Kuthen of the Kumans.
Occupation: Khan of the Kumans.

48 Hugh III of Burgundy.
Hugh III died on 25 Aug 1192 in Tyre, Palestine (on crusade).
Occupation: Duke of Burgundy 1162-1192.

divorced from first wife Adelaide (or Alix), 1183
m. 2ndly Beatrix d'Albon, Dauphine of Vienne

follower of Philip of France in the Third Crusade
commander of the French forces at the battle of Arsuf, 7 Sept 1191

bef 1166 Hugh III married Alix of Lorraine.

49 Alix of Lorraine.

1st wife
married before 1170 according to P. Theroff (shown here as 1166 or before: son Eudes born in 1166)
divorced 1183

50 Hugh de Vergy.
Hugh died in 1205.
Occupation: seigneur de Vergy.

Hugh married Gille de Trainel.

51 Gille de Trainel. Gille died aft 1224.

52 Robert II of Dreux. Born ca 1154.
Robert II died on 28 Dec 1218, he was 64.
Occupation: Count of Dreux 1188-1218.

Count of Dreux and Braine

participant in Third Crusade (at Acre, 1191); fought for
King Philip at Bouvines, 1214

In 1184 when Robert II was 30, he married Yolande de Coucy.

53 Yolande de Coucy. Born ca 1168.
Yolande died on 18 Mar 1221, she was 53.

2nd wife

54 Thomas de St. Valery. Thomas died in 1219.

of Tetbury, co. Glocs., Studley, co. Bucks., and Beckley
and Horton, co. Oxon

paid a fine for relief re: his father's lands in
Beckley and Horton, 1191/2

'deprived of his estates before 1197' [C. Phillips, citing VCH Gloucestershire 11: 264]

evidently opted for France and retained French lands
(or had same restored) following the Pacification of 1204.

fought at the Battle of Bouvines, 1214

Returned to the peace of King John and restored to
his English lands, 1215

Thomas married Adela de Ponthieu.

55 Adela de Ponthieu. Adela died in 1241.

56 Philip II 'Augustus' of France.
Born on 22 Aug 1165.
Philip II 'Augustus' died in 1223, he was 57.
Occupation: King of France 1180-1223.

King of France

actual name was 'Philippe Auguste' [born in August]
leader of the Third Crusade (1190-1192) with Richard
of England and the Emperor Frederick 'Barbarossa'

he m. lstly Isabella of Flanders (Hainaut),
2ndly Ingeborg of Denmark (repudiated),
3rdly Agnes of Meran (uncanonical/not recognized
by Rome)

ca 1184 when Philip II 'Augustus' was 18, he married
Isabel of Flanders.

57 Isabel of Flanders. Born ca 1170.
Isabel died in 1190, she was 20.

1st wife
also called Isabel (Isabeau) of Hainault

the county of Artois was her dowry

58 Alfonso VIII of Castile. Born abt 1155.
Alfonso VIII died in Burgos, Castile on 6 Oct 1214, he was 59. Buried in Monastery of Las Huelgas, Castile.
Occupation: King of Castile ca 1158-1214.

defeated the Almohads at Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa,
1214 in alliance with Peter (Pere) II of Aragon

In Sep 1177 when Alfonso VIII was 22, he married Eleanor
of England, in Tarragona.

59 Eleanor of England.
Born on 13 Oct 1162 in Domfront, Normandy.
Eleanor died in Burgos, Castile on 31 Oct 1214,
she was 52. Buried in Las Huelgas.

2nd daughter

60 Alfons II of Provence.
Occupation: Count of Provence 1196-1209.

Count of Forcalquier 1208-1209

In 1193 Alfons II married Gersinde of Sabran.

61 Gersinde of Sabran.

heiress of Forcalquier

62 Thomas I of Savoy.
Born on 20 May 1178 in Carbonnieres, Savoy [now France].
Thomas I died in Aosta, Savoy on 1 Mar 1232, he was 53.
Buried in St-Michel de la Cluse, Aosta.
Occupation: Count of Savoy 1188-1233.

In May 1195 when Thomas I was 16, he married Margaret
of Geneva.

63 Margaret of Geneva. Born ca 1180.
Margaret died aft 1255, she was 75.

identified in some older chronicles as Beatrice (note: her sister named Beatrice)“.¹³

; Ravilious Discussion 2 of parents of Margaret, wife of Richard de Burgh:
     "New evidence that Margaret, wife of Richard de Burgh, Earl of Ulster (died 1326) was possibly a daughter of Arnould III, Count of Guines, is indicated by the fact that Jean II, King of France (died 1364), referred to Margaret's grandson, David II de Brus, King of Scotland (died 1371) as his "kinsman" [Reference: T. Rymer, Foedera 6 (1727): 260-262, 264-265].
     "Since King Jean II's ancestry entirely consists of Continental royalty and nobility, it seems a good bet that King David II de Brus' grandmother, Margaret de Burgh, was of Continental origin just as John Carmi Parsons suggested in his article in the Genealogists' Magazine, 20 (1982): 335-340. Furthermore, if John Carmi Parsons is correct that Margaret de Burgh was the daughter of Arnould III, Count of Guines, it would make King Jean II of France related to King David II de Brus as follows:

Raoul de Coucy, Sire of Coucy (died 1191)
________________/____________________
/ /
Yolande de Coucy Enguerrand de Coucy
= Robert II, Count of Dreux /
/ /
Robert III, Count of Dreux Alix de Coucy
/ = Arnould III, Count of Guines
/ /
Yolande Dreux Margaret de Guines
=Hugh IV, Duke of Burgundy =Richard de Burgh, Earl of Ulster
/ /
Robert II, Duke of Burgundy Elizabeth de Burgh
/ =Robert I de Brus, King of
Scotland
/ /
Jeanne of Burgundy David II de Brus, King of Scotland
= Philippe VI, King of France
/
Jean II, King of France

     "indicate that a Coucy-Guines descent is possible for King David II. The kinship proposed above would be in the 5th and 6th degrees of kindred (or 4th cousins, once removed) between the two kings. Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah“.¹⁴

; Ravilious Discussion 1 of parents of Margaret, wife of Richard de Burgh:
     "In Genealogists' Magazine, 20 (1982): 335-340, John Carmi Parsons presented his "hypothesis" that Margaret, wife of Richard de Burgh, Earl of Ulster, was the daughter of Arnould III, Count of Guines (living 1282), by his wife, Alix de Coucy.
     "The evidence he cites is a bit scanty. He states that Pere Anselme indicates that Count Arnould III had a daughter who is stated to have married a "lord in Ireland." However, Parsons fails to produce any evidence which would indicate that the "lord in Ireland" was actually Richard de Burgh. He mentions that Richard de Burgh was styled "queen's kinsman" by Queen Eleanor of Castile. He supposes that this means that Richard's wife was related to the Queen. However, the Queen had opportunity to refer to Margaret as her kinswoman on more than one occasion (including the record in question) and failed to do so. More telling, Parsons appears to have overlooked the reference in which King Edward I referred to Richard de Burgh as his own "kinsman." The twin references to Richard de Burgh as "queen's kinsman" and "king's kinsman" suggest that Richard is the one with the ancestral tie to the English royal family, not his wife, Margaret.
     "Parsons argues that Richard de Burgh's marriage to his wife, Margaret, has all the earmarks of an marriage arranged by Queen Eleanor of Castile. He bases this on his analysis of other marriages known to have been arranged by Queen Eleanor. While the pattern of Richard and Margaret's marriage may be similar to other matches arranged by the Queen for her kinswomen, Parsons is unable to produce any actual evidence that Queen Eleanor was involved in the arrangements of this marriage. He does show that Queen Eleanor knew both parties and that she granted them lands following their marriage.
     "As for the original source for the statement that Count Arnold III had a daughter married to a "lord in Ireland," this can be traced back earlier than Pere Anselme. This information evidently first appeared in the book, Histoire Genealogique des Maisons de Guines, d'Ardres, de Gand, et de Coucy, by Andre Duchesne, published in 1631. This book is available on the gallica website at: http://gallica.bnf.fr/
     "On page 175, Duchesne lists various daughters of Count Arnould III of Guines. He gives the following information regarding the eldest daughter:
     "In the margin, he refers the reader to "Preuves pg. 302," which doesn't appear to be page 302 in this work.
     "In the section of the book dealing with the Coucy and Dreux families, he mentions Enguerrand de Coucy, husband of King Edward III's daughter, Isabel of England. Enguerrand de Coucy was great-great-grandson in the male line from Arnould III, Count of Guines, his branch of the family having adopted the surname Coucy from Arnould III's wife, Alix de Coucy. Presumably there is some mention of Enguerrand de Coucy's life history recorded by Froissart or someone else which indicates that his great-grandfather had a sister married to a "lord in Ireland." If Duchesne covers this piece of evidence, I didn't find a reference to anything like this in the cursory search I made of the section on the Coucy family. Duchesne does mention Froissart, so he was clearly familiar with this man's work.
     "If someone has the time and patience to go through the Duchesne book online, perhaps they can discover the place in the book in which the actual evidence is cited that Count Arnould III had a daughter married to a "lord in Ireland." Also, perhaps they can find the source named "Preuves" which Duchesne mentions in the margin in page 175.
     "In summary, the evidence is extremely weak that Richard de Burgh's wife, Margaret, was the daughter of Arnould III, Count of Guines. This still remains an unproven hypothesis. To quote Mr. Parsons, we "must await certain proof." This matter deserves further study. Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah“.¹⁵

; Per Channing:
     "Corrections to CP on Chris Philips web pages
     "LOUTH, Volume 8, page 170:
"He [John de Bermingham, earl of Louth (d. 1329)] m. between June 1308 and Oct. 1320, Aveline, da. of Richard (DE BURGH), 2nd EARL OF ULSTER [I.], by Margaret, da. of Sir John DE BURGH, of Lanvaley."
     "In a correction of volume 12, part 2, p.176 (Ulster) in volume 14, the identification of Margaret as a daughter of Sir John de Burgh is removed, and instead she is said to be "possibly daughter of Arnoul III, Count of Guisnes, by Alice, daughter of Enguerrand III, Lord of Coucy".⁵

; Per Weis: “Richard de Burgh, b. abt. 1259, d. Athassel, 28 July 1326, 3rd Earl of Ulster; m. by 27 Feb. 1280/1, Margaret, d. 1304, dau. prob. of Arnould III (272-30), Count of Guines (see 94A-31). (CP V:437, IX:403-404, XII (2):173-7, VIX:619; Gen. Mag. 20 (10):335-340).”.⁷

     Richard 'the Red' de Burgh 2nd Earl of Ulster and Connaught was born in 1259 at Ulster, Ireland.^6,7 He married Margaret (Margery) (?) of Guines, daughter of Arnoul III 'le Vieux' (?) Comte de Guînes, châtelain de Bourbourg, Seigneur d'Ardres, de Tourcoing et d'Alost, and Alix de Coucy, before 27 February 1281.^8,6,7,9

Richard 'the Red' de Burgh 2nd Earl of Ulster and Connaught died on 29 July 1326 at Athassel, Ireland.^8,6,7
     He was 2nd Earl of Ulster of the 1264 cr.^3,2,10 EDV-22 GKJ-20.

; "Richard de Burgh, 2nd Earl of Ulster, usually called the Red Earl, the most powerful subject in Ireland, and general of all the Irish forces in Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and Gascoigne, was a great soldier and statesman. He founded the Carmelite monastery at Loughres, built the Castles of Ballymote, Corran, and Sligo, and eventually retired to the monastery of Athassil, where he d. 28 June, 1326; he m. Margaret, dau. of John de Burgo, Baron of Lanville (son of John, grandson of John, the great-grandson of Hubert, Earl of Kent), and had issue,
I. Walter, d. withouth male issue, 1304.
II. John, d. v. p.
III. Thomas, d. s. p. 1316.
IV. Edmond na Feisoge, murdered by his kinsman, Edward Bourke McWilliam; he m. Slany, dau. of Turlogh O'Briend, Lord of Thomond, and was ancestor of the Burkes, Lords of Castle Connell and Brittas.
V. William, d. after the year 1337.
I. Ellen, m. in 1302, Robert Bruce, Earl of Carycke, crowned King of Scotland in 1306.
II. Maud, m. in 1308, to Gilbert, Earl of Gloucester.
III. Joan, m. 1st, 16 August, 1312, to Thomas, the 2nd Earl of Kildare; and 2ndly, in July, 1329, to Sir John Darcy, lord justice, and d. 12 March, 1359.
IV. Catherine, m. to John Bermingham, Earl of Louth.
V. Margaret, m. 16 August, 1312, Maurice, Earl of Desmond.
VI. Eleanor, m. to John, Lord Multon of Egremont."

NB Weis "Ancestral Roots", pp. 91-2, says that the marriage of Richard to a dau. ot John de Burgo has been disproven.^2,11

.^12,13,8

; Per Weis: “Richard de Burgh, b. abt. 1259, d. Athassel, 28 July 1326, 3rd Earl of Ulster; m. by 27 Feb. 1280/1, Margaret, d. 1304, dau. prob. of Arnould III (272-30), Count of Guines (see 94A-31). (CP V:437, IX:403-404, XII (2):173-7, VIX:619; Gen. Mag. 20 (10):335-340).”.⁹

     John de Burgh was born circa 1290.^5,6,2,4 He married Lady Elizabeth de Clare, daughter of Sir Gilbert de Red de Clare Knt., 6th Earl of Hertford & Gloucester and Joan of Acre (?) Princess of England, Countess of Gloucester and Hertford, on 30 September 1308 at Waltham Abbey, co. Essex, England,
;
Her 1st husband.^{1,7,3,2,4,8,9,10}
John de Burgh died on 18 June 1313 at Galway, Ireland.^5,3,2,4
      ; Per Channing:
     "Corrections to CP on Chris Philips web pages
     "LOUTH, Volume 8, page 170:
"He [John de Bermingham, earl of Louth (d. 1329)] m. between June 1308 and Oct. 1320, Aveline, da. of Richard (DE BURGH), 2nd EARL OF ULSTER [I.], by Margaret, da. of Sir John DE BURGH, of Lanvaley."
     "In a correction of volume 12, part 2, p.176 (Ulster) in volume 14, the identification of Margaret as a daughter of Sir John de Burgh is removed, and instead she is said to be "possibly daughter of Arnoul III, Count of Guisnes, by Alice, daughter of Enguerrand III, Lord of Coucy".¹¹ EDV-21 GKJ-21.

; This is the same person as ”John de Burgh (died 1313)” at Wikipedia.¹²

Reference: Genealogics cites: He was Earl of Ulster.^5,3

; Per Faris (1999, p. 56): "JOHN DE BURGH, son and heir apparent of Richard de Burgh, 3rd Earl of Ulster (of Magna Carta Surety descent and descendant of Charlemagne), by Margaret, daughter, perhaps, of Arnoul III, Comte de Guines (descendant of Charlemagne). He was born about 1290. They had one son. JOHN DE BURGH died on 18 June 1313 v.p."⁵

; Per Med Lands:
     "JOHN de Burgh ([1290]-Galway 18 Jun 1313).
     "m (Waltham Abbey, Essex 30 Sep 1308) as her first husband, ELIZABETH de Clare, daughter of GILBERT de Clare Earl of Gloucester & his second wife Joan of England "of Acre" (Tewkesbury 16 Sep 1295-4 Nov 1360). The Chronica de Fundatoribus et Fundatione of Tewkesbury Abbey names “Elianoram, Elizabetham, et Margaretam” as the three daughters of “Gilbertus secundus” and his wife “Johanna de Acres, filia regis Edwardi primi”, adding in a later passage that she had three husbands “Johannem de Borow comitem de Holvestre…”[1495]. The Annales Londonienses record the marriage "ad festum Sancti Michaelis" in 1308 of "filius comitis Ultoniæ" and "sororem comitis Claudiocestriæ"[1496]. She married secondly (near Bristol 4 Feb [1314/15]) Theobald [II] de Verdun Lord Verdun. The Chronicle of Croxden records the marriage “III Non Feb...apud Brystoll” 1314 of “dominus Theobaldus de Verdun” and “Elizabetham filiam domini Gilberti de Clare comitis Gloucestriæ et dominæ Johannæ de Acres filiæ Edwardi regis” who had previously married “filio primogenito comitis de Uluecestre in Hibernia”[1497]. The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire records the second marriage of "Theobaldo Verdon" and "Elizabetham de Burgo, nuper uxorem Johannis de Burgo filii comitis Ultoniæ, sororem Gilberti de Clare comitis Gloucestriæ", and names their children "Isabella et Katherina"[1498]. She married thirdly (1317) Roger Damory. The will of "Elizabeth de Burg Lady of Clare", dated 25 Sep 1355, proved 3 Dec 1360, chose burial “in the Sisters Minories beyond Aldgate, London”, requested masses for the souls of "Monsr John de Bourg, Monsr Theobaud de Verdon and Monsr Roger Dammory my lords", bequeathed property to “dame Elizabeth countess of Ulster, the debt which my son, her father, owed me at his death...my daughter Bardolf...Monsr John Bardolf and to my said daughter his wife...my joesne fille Isabel Bardolf to her marriage, Agnes her sister to her marriage...Monsieur William de Ferrers...Monsr Thomas Furnival...my daughter Countess of Athol...”[1499]."
Med Lands cites:

; Per Weis: “John de Burgh, 2nd but 1st surv. son, b. abt. 1290, d.v.p. 18 June 1313; m. 10 Sept. 1308, Elizabeth de Clare (11-30, 70-32), b. 1295, d. 4 Nov. 1360, age 65, leaving a will., dau. and coh. of Sit gilbert de Clare, Knt. (63-30), 6th Earl of Gloucester and Hertford, 9th Earl of Clare, and Joan of Acre (8-29). Elizabeth m. (2) 4 Feb. 1315/1316 as 2nd wife, Theobald de Verdun, Knt. (70-32), Lord Verdun, b. 8 sept. 1278, d. 27 July 1316; m (3) by 3 May 1317, Roger Damory, 1st Lord damory, d. 13-14 Mar. 1321/2. (CP, SII (2):177-8).”.³

; Per Med Lands:
     "ELIZABETH de Clare (Tewkesbury 16 Sep 1295-4 Nov 1360). The Chronica de Fundatoribus et Fundatione of Tewkesbury Abbey names “Elianoram, Elizabetham, et Margaretam” as the three daughters of “Gilbertus secundus” and his wife “Johanna de Acres, filia regis Edwardi primi”, adding in a later passage that she had three husbands “Johannem de Borow comitem de Holvestre…”[1900]. The Annales Londonienses record the marriage "ad festum Sancti Michaelis" in 1308 of "filius comitis Ultoniæ" and "sororem comitis Claudiocestriæ"[1901]. The Chronicle of Croxden records the marriage “III Non Feb...apud Brystoll” 1314 of “dominus Theobaldus de Verdun” and “Elizabetham filiam domini Gilberti de Clare comitis Gloucestriæ et dominæ Johannæ de Acres filiæ Edwardi regis” who had previously married “filio primogenito comitis de Uluecestre in Hibernia”[1902]. The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire records the second marriage of "Theobaldo Verdon" and "Elizabetham de Burgo, nuper uxorem Johannis de Burgo filii comitis Ultoniæ, sororem Gilberti de Clare comitis Gloucestriæ", and names their children "Isabella et Katherina"[1903]. The will of "Elizabeth de Burg Lady of Clare", dated 25 Sep 1355, proved 3 Dec 1360, chose burial “in the Sisters Minories beyond Aldgate, London”, requested masses for the souls of "Monsr John de Bourg, Monsr Theobaud de Verdon and Monsr Roger Dammory my lords", bequeathed property to “dame Elizabeth countess of Ulster, the debt which my son, her father, owed me at his death...my daughter Bardolf...Monsr John Bardolf and to my said daughter his wife...my joesne fille Isabel Bardolf to her marriage, Agnes her sister to her marriage...Monsieur William de Ferrers...Monsr Thomas Furnival...my daughter Countess of Athol...”[1904].
     "m firstly (Waltham Abbey, Essex 30 Sep 1308) JOHN de Burgh of Ulster, son of RICHARD de Burgh Earl of Ulster & his wife Margaret de Burgh of Lanvalley ([1290]-Galway 18 Jun 1313).
     "m secondly (near Bristol 4 Feb [1314/15]) as his second wife, THEOBALD [II] de Verdun Lord Verdun, son of THEOBALD [I] de Verdun Lord Verdun & his [first] wife Margery --- (8 Sep [1277/78]-27 Jul 1316, bur Croxden Abbey, Staffs).
     "m thirdly (before 3 May 1317) ROGER Damory Lord Damory, son of --- (-13/14 Mar 1322)."
Med Lands cites:

     Lady Elizabeth de Clare was born in October 1292 at Caerphilly Castle, England.⁹ She was born on 16 September 1295 at Tewkesbury, Tewkesbury Borough, Gloucestershire, England.^5,2,4 She married John de Burgh, son of Richard 'the Red' de Burgh 2nd Earl of Ulster and Connaught and Margaret (Margery) (?) of Guines, on 30 September 1308 at Waltham Abbey, co. Essex, England,
;
Her 1st husband.^{1,3,10,11,12,2,4,5} Lady Elizabeth de Clare married Sir Theobald II de Verdun Knt., Lord of Weoberley, 2nd Lord Verdun, Justiciar of Ireland, son of Theobald I de Verdun 1st Lord Verdun and Margery/Eleanor de Bohun, on 4 February 1315/16 at near Bristol, Gloucestershire, England,
;
Her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife.^{13,14,3,2,4,5,15,16} Lady Elizabeth de Clare married Sir Roger d'Amory Lord d'Amory before 3 May 1317
;
Her 3rd husband, Genealogics says m. abt Apr 1317.^{17,18,3,2,4,5,19}
Lady Elizabeth de Clare died on 4 November 1360 at Ware, East Hertfordshire District, Hertfordshire, England, at age 65.^20,5,2,4,21
Lady Elizabeth de Clare was buried after 4 November 1360 at Minoresses Convent, Ware Aldgate, City of London, Greater London, England; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     16 Sep 1295, Tewkesbury, Tewkesbury Borough, Gloucestershire, England
     DEATH     4 Nov 1360 (aged 65), Ware, East Hertfordshire District, Hertfordshire, England
     Elizabeth de Clare was the heiress to the lordships of Clare, Suffolk in England and Usk in Wales. She was one of three daughters of Gilbert de Clare, 7th Earl of Hertford and Joan of Acre, and sister of the infant fourth earl, also Gilbert de Clare. She accompanied her brother Gilbert to Ireland for their double wedding to two siblings: the son and daughter of the Earl of Ulster. Elizabeth married John de Burgh on 30 September 1308 at Waltham Abbey, in the King's presence.
     He was the heir to the Earl of Ulster, and Elizabeth could expect to be a countess. She gave birth to their only child, a son, in 1312; he would become William Donn de Burgh, 3rd Earl of Ulster. Only a year later, her husband John was suddenly killed in a minor skirmish. Now a widow, Elizabeth remained in Ireland until another family tragedy demanded her return.
     Her brother Gilbert was killed at the Battle of Bannockburn in 1314 aged only 23 and, as he left no surviving issue and had no brothers, his property was equally divided between his three full sisters, Elizabeth, Eleanor and Margaret. Suddenly Elizabeth was one of the greatest heiresses in England. Her uncle, King Edward II, recalled her to the land of her birth so he could select a husband for her. She left Ireland in 1316, leaving behind her young son, William. Elizabeth never returned.
     Elizabeth married secondly on February 4, 1315/6, near Bristol, against the King's will and without his licence, Sir Theobald De Verdun, of Alton, Stafford County, [Lord Verdun], who died at Alton Castle, July 27, and was buried September 19, 1316, in Croxden Abbey. They had one daughter Isabel de Verdun
     She married her third and last husband Sir Roger Damory, 1st baron Damory, about April 1317. He was condemned to death on March 14, 1322 at Tutbury Castle, Staffordshire County, England. They had one daughter Elizabeth Damory
     She took a vow of chastity after Roger's death, effectively removing herself from the aristocratic marriage market. She enjoyed a long and fruitful widowhood, becoming patroness of many religious houses. Elizabeth is best remembered for having used much of her fortune to found Clare College, Cambridge.
     She was buried with her third husband Roger Damory at St Mary's, Ware, Hertford County, England
     Family Members
     Parents
          Gilbert de Clare 1243–1295
          Joan of Acre 1272–1307
     Spouses
          John de Burgh 1286–1313 (m. 1308)
          Theobald de Verdun 1278–1316 (m. 1315)
          Roger Damory 1295–1322 (m. 1317)
     Siblings
          Gilbert de Clare 1291–1314
          Eleanor de Clare 1292–1337
          Margaret de Clare de Audley 1293–1342
     Half Siblings
          Isabella de Clare de Berkeley 1262–1333
          Thomas de Monthermer 1301–1340
          Edward de Monthermer 1303–1340
          Stillborn de Monthermer 1307–1307
     Children
          William Donn de Burgh 1312–1333
     Isabel de Verdun 1315–1349
     BURIAL     Minoresses Convent, Aldgate, City of London, Greater London, England
     Maintained by: Kat
     Originally Created by: nbo
     Added: 5 Mar 2012
     Find a Grave Memorial 86309207
     SPONSORED BY Debbie Chandler.^22,21
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "JOHN de Burgh ([1290]-Galway 18 Jun 1313).
     "m (Waltham Abbey, Essex 30 Sep 1308) as her first husband, ELIZABETH de Clare, daughter of GILBERT de Clare Earl of Gloucester & his second wife Joan of England "of Acre" (Tewkesbury 16 Sep 1295-4 Nov 1360). The Chronica de Fundatoribus et Fundatione of Tewkesbury Abbey names “Elianoram, Elizabetham, et Margaretam” as the three daughters of “Gilbertus secundus” and his wife “Johanna de Acres, filia regis Edwardi primi”, adding in a later passage that she had three husbands “Johannem de Borow comitem de Holvestre…”[1495]. The Annales Londonienses record the marriage "ad festum Sancti Michaelis" in 1308 of "filius comitis Ultoniæ" and "sororem comitis Claudiocestriæ"[1496]. She married secondly (near Bristol 4 Feb [1314/15]) Theobald [II] de Verdun Lord Verdun. The Chronicle of Croxden records the marriage “III Non Feb...apud Brystoll” 1314 of “dominus Theobaldus de Verdun” and “Elizabetham filiam domini Gilberti de Clare comitis Gloucestriæ et dominæ Johannæ de Acres filiæ Edwardi regis” who had previously married “filio primogenito comitis de Uluecestre in Hibernia”[1497]. The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire records the second marriage of "Theobaldo Verdon" and "Elizabetham de Burgo, nuper uxorem Johannis de Burgo filii comitis Ultoniæ, sororem Gilberti de Clare comitis Gloucestriæ", and names their children "Isabella et Katherina"[1498]. She married thirdly (1317) Roger Damory. The will of "Elizabeth de Burg Lady of Clare", dated 25 Sep 1355, proved 3 Dec 1360, chose burial “in the Sisters Minories beyond Aldgate, London”, requested masses for the souls of "Monsr John de Bourg, Monsr Theobaud de Verdon and Monsr Roger Dammory my lords", bequeathed property to “dame Elizabeth countess of Ulster, the debt which my son, her father, owed me at his death...my daughter Bardolf...Monsr John Bardolf and to my said daughter his wife...my joesne fille Isabel Bardolf to her marriage, Agnes her sister to her marriage...Monsieur William de Ferrers...Monsr Thomas Furnival...my daughter Countess of Athol...”[1499]."
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; Per Weis: “John de Burgh, 2nd but 1st surv. son, b. abt. 1290, d.v.p. 18 June 1313; m. 10 Sept. 1308, Elizabeth de Clare (11-30, 70-32), b. 1295, d. 4 Nov. 1360, age 65, leaving a will., dau. and coh. of Sit gilbert de Clare, Knt. (63-30), 6th Earl of Gloucester and Hertford, 9th Earl of Clare, and Joan of Acre (8-29). Elizabeth m. (2) 4 Feb. 1315/1316 as 2nd wife, Theobald de Verdun, Knt. (70-32), Lord Verdun, b. 8 sept. 1278, d. 27 July 1316; m (3) by 3 May 1317, Roger Damory, 1st Lord damory, d. 13-14 Mar. 1321/2. (CP, SII (2):177-8).”.¹⁰ EDV-21 GKJ-20.

; This is the same person as ”Elizabeth de Clare” at Wikipedia.²³

; Per Faris (1999, pp. 56-57):
     "ELIZABETH DE CLARE, third and youngest daughter, was probably born at Caerphilly Castle in October 1292, and was sister and co-heiress to Gilbert de Clare, Baron of Clare, 7th Earl of Gloucester and Hertford (died 1314), inheriting the Lordship of Clare. She was married on 30 Sep. 1308 to JOHN DE BURGH, son and heir apparent of Richard de Burgh, 3rd Earl of Ulster (of Magna Carta Surety descent and descendant of Charlemagne), by Margaret, daughter, perhaps, of Arnoul III, Comte de Guines (descendant of Charlemagne). He was born about 1290. They had one son. JOHN DE BURGH died on 18 June 1313 v.p. She was married for the second time near Bristol on 4 Feb. 13 15/6, against the King's will and without his licence, to THEOBALD DE VERDUN, Knt., of Alton, co. Stafford, 2nd Lord Verdun, lord of half the barony of Weobley, co. Hereford, Justiciar of Ireland, son and heir of Theobald de Verdun (or le Botiler) (of Magna Carta Surety descent and descendant of Charlemagne), by his wife Margery. He was born on 8 Sep. 1278. They had one daughter. He was summoned to Parliament v.p. from 29 Dec. 1299 by writs directed (till his father's death) Theobaldo de Verdun junior. He had been married previously at Wigmore, co. Hereford, on 29 July 1302 to Maud de Mortimer, daughter of Edmund de Mortimer, Knt., of Wigmore, by Margaret, daughter of William de Fiennes, Knt., and had three daughters (and she died at Alton on 17 or 18 Sep. 1312 after childbirth, and was buried at Croxden Abbey). THEOBALD DE VERDUN, Lord Verdun, died aged thirty-seven at Alton on 27 July 1316, and was buried at Croxden Abbey. Their daughter Isabel was born posthumously at Amesbury, co. Wilts, in 1317. ELIZABETH DE CLARE was married for the third time about April, before 3 May 1317 to ROGER DAMORY, of Bletchington, co. Oxford, younger son of Robert Damory, of Bucknell, co. Oxford. They had one daughter. He was 1summoned to Parliament from 20 Nov. 1317 by writs directed Rogero Damory. He took an active part in "pursuing" the Despensers, for which he received a pardon on 20 Aug. 1321. On the retreat before the King's forces, being sick, or mortally wounded, he was left behind at Tutbury, where he was captured on 11 March, tried and condemned to death. ROGER DAMORY, Lord Damory, died at Tutbury Castle "in rebellion" on 13 or 14 Mar. 1321/2. His widow endowed University Hall, Cambridge, on 8 Apr. 1336. She died testate aged sixty-five on 4 Nov. 1360, and was buried with her third husband in the aisle of St. Mary's, Ware (M.I.)
     "Banks (1844), p. 445. C.P. 2:426 (1912). C.P. 4:42-46 (1916) (Damory arms: Barry undy of six, argent and gales, a bend azure). C.P. 5:346 (1926). C.P. 12(2):250-252 (1959). Gen.Mag. 20:335-340 (1982). C.P. 14:619 (1998).
     "Child of John de Burgh, by Elizabeth de Clare:
i.     WILLIAM DE BURGH [see next].
     "Child of Theobald de Verdun, by Elizabeth de Clare:
ii.     ISABEL DE VERDUN, married HENRY DE FERRERS [see CLARKE 10].1 Child of Roger Damory, by Elizabeth de Clare:
iii.     ELIZABETH DAMORY, married JOHN BARDOLF [see CALTRORPE 10].2“.^20,24,14

Reference: Genealogics cites:

; Per Weis: “Elizabeth de clare, (sis. and coh. of gilbert de clare, 7th Earl of Gloucester and Hertford), b. 16 Sept. 1295, d. 4 Nov. 1360; m. (1) John de Burgh (94A-32), d.v.p. 18 June 1313; m. (2) as 2nd wife, Sir Theobald de Verdun (70-32), d.s.p.m. 27 July 1316, Lord of Weoberley, Baron 1308, of Alton, co. Stafford;; m. (3) 1317, Roger Damory, 1st Lord damory, d. 1321. (CP IV:43-44, v:346, XII (2):250-251; Banks I:445).”.⁵

; Per Med Lands:
     "ELIZABETH de Clare (Tewkesbury 16 Sep 1295-4 Nov 1360). The Chronica de Fundatoribus et Fundatione of Tewkesbury Abbey names “Elianoram, Elizabetham, et Margaretam” as the three daughters of “Gilbertus secundus” and his wife “Johanna de Acres, filia regis Edwardi primi”, adding in a later passage that she had three husbands “Johannem de Borow comitem de Holvestre…”[1900]. The Annales Londonienses record the marriage "ad festum Sancti Michaelis" in 1308 of "filius comitis Ultoniæ" and "sororem comitis Claudiocestriæ"[1901]. The Chronicle of Croxden records the marriage “III Non Feb...apud Brystoll” 1314 of “dominus Theobaldus de Verdun” and “Elizabetham filiam domini Gilberti de Clare comitis Gloucestriæ et dominæ Johannæ de Acres filiæ Edwardi regis” who had previously married “filio primogenito comitis de Uluecestre in Hibernia”[1902]. The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire records the second marriage of "Theobaldo Verdon" and "Elizabetham de Burgo, nuper uxorem Johannis de Burgo filii comitis Ultoniæ, sororem Gilberti de Clare comitis Gloucestriæ", and names their children "Isabella et Katherina"[1903]. The will of "Elizabeth de Burg Lady of Clare", dated 25 Sep 1355, proved 3 Dec 1360, chose burial “in the Sisters Minories beyond Aldgate, London”, requested masses for the souls of "Monsr John de Bourg, Monsr Theobaud de Verdon and Monsr Roger Dammory my lords", bequeathed property to “dame Elizabeth countess of Ulster, the debt which my son, her father, owed me at his death...my daughter Bardolf...Monsr John Bardolf and to my said daughter his wife...my joesne fille Isabel Bardolf to her marriage, Agnes her sister to her marriage...Monsieur William de Ferrers...Monsr Thomas Furnival...my daughter Countess of Athol...”[1904].
     "m firstly (Waltham Abbey, Essex 30 Sep 1308) JOHN de Burgh of Ulster, son of RICHARD de Burgh Earl of Ulster & his wife Margaret de Burgh of Lanvalley ([1290]-Galway 18 Jun 1313).
     "m secondly (near Bristol 4 Feb [1314/15]) as his second wife, THEOBALD [II] de Verdun Lord Verdun, son of THEOBALD [I] de Verdun Lord Verdun & his [first] wife Margery --- (8 Sep [1277/78]-27 Jul 1316, bur Croxden Abbey, Staffs).
     "m thirdly (before 3 May 1317) ROGER Damory Lord Damory, son of --- (-13/14 Mar 1322)."
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; Per Weis: “Sir Theobald de Verdun, Knt., of Alton, co. Stafford, b. 8 Sept. 1278, Lord of Weoberley, 2nd Lord Verdun, Justiciar of Ireland, Knt. 1298, M.P. 1299-1314, d. Alton 27 July 1316; m. (1) Wigmore, co. Hereford, 29 July 1302, Maud de Mortimer, d. Sept. 1312, dau. of Sir Edmund de Mortimer (176B-30) and Margaret de Fenlis (120-32); m. (2) 4 Feb. 1316, Eizabeth de Clare (11-30). (CP II:426, XII (2):250-252; Banks I:445). Note: By Maud, Theobald, also had daus. Joan de Verdun, b. 1304, d. 1334, who m. Thomas Furnival, and Margaret de Verdun, who m. Sir William Blount; and, by Elizabeth, he had dau. Isabella de Verdun, who m. Henry Ferrers, of Groby.”.²⁵
; Per Med Lands:
     "THEOBALD [II] de Verdun (8 Sep [1277/78]-Alton 27 Jul 1316, bur Croxden Abbey). Inquisitions following a writ dated 28 Aug "3 Edw II" after the death of "Theobald de Verdun alias de Verdoun, de Verdun, the elder” name “Theobald his son aged 28 [...30...24 and more...22 and more...aged 31 at the feast of the Nativity of the Blessed Mary last] is his next heir”[283]. The Chronicle of Croxden records that “Theobaldus filius Theobaldi de Verdun” returned “de Hibernia in Angliam” in 1302 and was knighted “die sancti Johannis Baptistæ” by King Edward I[284]. Lord Verdun. Inquisitions following a writ dated 30 Jul "10 Edw II" after the death of "Theobald de Verdon alias de Verdun” name “Elizabeth late his wife is pregnant of a living child. His daughters Joan aged 13, Elizabeth aged 10 and Margery aged 7 are his next heirs”[285].
     "m firstly (Wigmore 29 Jul 1302) MATILDA de Mortimer, son of EDMUND [I] de Mortimer Lord Mortimer & his wife Margaret de Fiennes (-Alton 18 Sep 1312). A manuscript narrating the foundation of Wigmore Abbey names “Rogerus primogenitus…Matilda…Johanna…Johannes, Elizabetha…Hugo…Walterus…et Edmundus” as children of “Edmundus de Mortuomari…Rogeri de Mortuomari…secundogenitus” and his wife “Margaretam…filiam domini Willielmi de Fendles de Hispania”, adding that Matilda married “Teobaldo de Verdun, domino medietatis de Lodelowe, filio Johannis de Verdon et Margeriæ filiæ Gilberti de Lacy”[286]. The Chronicle of Croxden records the marriage “apud Wigmore IV Kal Aug” 1302 of “dominus Theobaldus de Verdun hæres domini Theobaldi filii Johannis de Verdun” and “Matildam filiam domini Edmundi de Mortuomari”[287]. The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire records the first marriage of "Theobaldo Verdon" and "Matildam filiam domini Edmondi de Mortuo Mari", and names their children "Johannes et Willilemus et iii filiæ…Johanna, Elizabetha et Margeria"[288]. The Chronicle of Croxden records that “Matildis de Verdun domina de Alveton” gave birth “die beati Laurentii” 1312 to “quartam filiam...Margeriam” and died “XIV Kal Oct in castro de Alveton”[289].
     "m secondly (near Bristol 4 Feb [1314]) as her second husband, ELIZABETH de Clare, widow of JOHN de Burgh of Ulster, daughter of GILBERT de Clare Earl of Gloucester & his second wife Joan of England "of Acre" (Tewkesbury 16 Sep 1295-4 Nov 1360). The Chronica de Fundatoribus et Fundatione of Tewkesbury Abbey names “Elianoram, Elizabetham, et Margaretam” as the three daughters of “Gilbertus secundus” and his wife “Johanna de Acres, filia regis Edwardi primi”, adding in a later passage that Elizabeth had three husbands “Johannem de Borow comitem de Holvestre…”[290]. The Annales Londonienses record the marriage "ad festum Sancti Michaelis" in 1308 of "filius comitis Ultoniæ" and "sororem comitis Claudiocestriæ"[291]. The Chronicle of Croxden records the marriage “III Non Feb...apud Brystoll” 1314 of “dominus Theobaldus de Verdun” and “Elizabetham filiam domini Gilberti de Clare comitis Gloucestriæ et dominæ Johannæ de Acres filiæ Edwardi regis” who had previously married “filio primogenito comitis de Uluecestre in Hibernia”[292]. The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire records the second marriage of "Theobaldo Verdon" and "Elizabetham de Burgo, nuper uxorem Johannis de Burgo filii comitis Ultoniæ, sororem Gilberti de Clare comitis Gloucestriæ", and names their children "Isabella et Katherina"[293]. She married thirdly (1317) Roger Damory. The will of "Elizabeth de Burg Lady of Clare", dated 25 Sep 1355, proved 3 Dec 1360, chose burial “in the Sisters Minories beyond Aldgate, London”, requested masses for the souls of "Monsr John de Bourg, Monsr Theobaud de Verdon and Monsr Roger Dammory my lords", bequeathed property to “dame Elizabeth countess of Ulster, the debt which my son, her father, owed me at his death...my daughter Bardolf...Monsr John Bardolf and to my said daughter his wife...my joesne fille Isabel Bardolf to her marriage, Agnes her sister to her marriage...Monsieur William de Ferrers...Monsr Thomas Furnival...my daughter Countess of Athol...”[294]."
Med Lands cites:

     Sir William de Burgh Knt., 3rd Earl of Lancaster, 4th Earl of Ulster was born on 17 September 1312 at Ulster, Ireland.^{12,13,14,5,6,4,7} He married Maude (?) of Lancaster, Countess of Ulster, daughter of Sir Henry (?) Knt., 3rd Earl of Lancaster and Leicester and Maude de Chaworth, circa 1 May 1327
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Her 1st husband. Date of papal dispensation; Genealogics says m. ca 1330; Med Lands says Papal dispensation 1 May 1327, before 1330.^{12,3,15,14,5,16,17,6,4,7}
Sir William de Burgh Knt., 3rd Earl of Lancaster, 4th Earl of Ulster died on 6 June 1333 at Leford, Belfast, Ireland, at age 20; "He was murdered 6 June 1333, by Robert Firtz-Richard Mandeville and others."^{14,12,3,5,6,4,7}
Sir William de Burgh Knt., 3rd Earl of Lancaster, 4th Earl of Ulster was buried after 6 June 1333 at Burial location unknown ; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     17 Sep 1312, Ireland
     DEATH     6 Jun 1333 (aged 20), Belfast (Down), County Down, Northern Ireland
     Born: September 1312 - Ulster , Ireland
     Died: 6 June 1333 - Belfast , County Antrim, Ireland
     Parents:
          John de Burgh
          Elizabeth de Clare
     Spouse: Countess Maud Lancaster de Burgh de Ufford (Matilda of Lancaster Ufford)
     Birth: 1310 - Lancaster, City of Lancaster, Lancashire, England
     Death: 5 May 1377 - Suffolk, England
     Burial: Clare Priory- Clare, St Edmundsbury Borough, Suffolk, England
     Family Members
     Parents
          John de Burgh 1286–1313
          Elizabeth de Clare 1295–1360
     Spouse
          Matilda of Lancaster Ufford 1310–1377
     Half Siblings
          Isabel de Verdun 1315–1349
     Children
          Elizabeth de Burgh 1332–1363
     BURIAL     Burial Details Unknown
     Created by: Ro§e?
     Added: 24 Aug 2019
     Find a Grave Memorial 202393013.¹⁸
      ; Per Notable British Families: "William de Burgh, 3rd Earl of Ulster, b. 1312, who s. his grandfather in 1326, was knighted at London, 1328, and sat in the parliament held in Dublin the following year. He was murdered 6 June 1333, by Robert Firtz-Richard Mandeville and others. He m. Maud, 3rd dau. of Henry Plantagenet, Earl of Lancaster, and by her (who m. 2ndly, Sir Ralph de Ufford, lord justice of Ireland), had an only child, Lady Elizabeth de Burgh..."³ He was 4th Earl of Lancaster.

; This is the same person as ”William Donn de Burgh, 3rd Earl of Ulster” at Wikipedia.

This is also the same person as ”Burgh, William de, third earl of Ulster [called the Brown Earl]” at the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.^19,20

Reference: Genealogics cites: He was 3rd Earl of Ulster.^1,14 EDV-20 GKJ-20.

; Per Weis: “William de Burgh, 3rd Earl of Ulster, b. 17 Sept. 1312, murdered at LeFord Belfast 6 June 1333, age 20; m. (Papal disp. 1 May 1327), Maud of Lancaster, d. 5 May 1377, dau. of Henry (17-29), 3rd Earl of Lancaster, by Maud de Chaworth (73-32), dau. Sir Patrick de Chaworth, and Isabel de Beauchamp (72-31). She m. (2) by 8 Aug. 134, Sir Ralph d'Ufford, Justiciar of Ireland, d. 9 Apr. 1346. (CP, XII (2):178-179).”.⁶

; Per Med Lands:
     "WILLIAM de Burgh (in Ireland 17 Sep 1312-murdered Le Ford [Belfast] 6 Jun 1333). The Chronica de Fundatoribus et Fundatione of Tewkesbury Abbey names “Willelmo” as the son of “Johannem de Borow comitem de Holvestre” & his wife[1500]. He succeeded his grandfather in 1326 as Earl of Ulster. He was summoned to Parliament 10 Dec 1327, whereby he is held to have become Lord Burgh. He was murdered by John de Logan and some of the Mandevilles. His death marked the end of Norman rule in Ireland.
     "m (1330) as her first husband, MATILDA de Lancaster, daughter of HENRY Earl of Lancaster & his wife Maud Chaworth ([1310]-[Bruisyard Abbey, Suffolk] 5 May 1377, bur Campsey Abbey, Suffolk). The Chronicle of Adam de Usk names “Matilda filia Henrici comitis Lancastrie filii Edmundi filii tercii Henrici regis Anglie...” as the wife of “Wyllelmy Borch comitis Ultonie” and mother of “Elizabetha Clarencie ducissa”[1501]. She fled to England with her daughter after the murder of her first husband. She married secondly (before 8 Aug 1343) [as his first wife,] Sir Ralph de Ufford. She became a canoness at the Augustine Abbey of Campsey, Suffolk, [8 Aug 1347/25 Apr 1348]. She transferred to the Poor Clares at Bruisyard Abbey, Suffolk in 1364."
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; Per Genealogy.EU (Anjou 3): “E3. Maud, *1298/ca 1310, +Campsey Abbey before 5.5.1377, bur Bruisyard Abbey, Suffolk; 1m: ca 1330 William de Burgh, Earl of Ulster (*1312 +6.6.1333); 2m: before 6.7.1345 Ralph de Ufford”.²¹

; Per Med Lands:
     "MATILDA ([1310]-[Bruisyard Abbey, Suffolk] 5 May 1377, bur Campsey Abbey, Suffolk). The Chronicle of Adam de Usk names “Matilda filia Henrici comitis Lancastrie filii Edmundi filii tercii Henrici regis Anglie...” as the wife of “Wyllelmy Borch comitis Ultonie” and mother of “Elizabetha Clarencie ducissa”[1024]. She fled to England with her daughter after the murder of her first husband. She became a canoness at the Augustine Abbey of Campsey, Suffolk, [8 Aug 1347/25 Apr 1348]. She transferred to the Poor Clares at Bruisyard Abbey, Suffolk 1364.
     "m firstly (Papal dispensation 1 May 1327, before 1330) WILLIAM de Burgh Earl of Ulster, son of JOHN de Burgh & his wife Elizabeth de Clare (in Ireland 17 Sep 1312-murdered Le Ford [Belfast] 6 Jun 1333). He succeeded his grandfather in 1326 as Earl of Ulster. He was murdered by John de Logan and some of the Mandevill es. His death marked the end of Norman rule in Ireland.
     "m secondly (before 8 Aug 1343) [as his first wife,] RALPH de Ufford, son of ROBERT de Ufford Lord Ufford & his wife Cecily de Valoines (-Kilmainham, Ireland 9 Apr 1346, bur Campsey Abbey, Suffolk). Justiciar of Ireland 1344-1346."
Med Lands cites:

     Maude (?) of Lancaster, Countess of Ulster was born circa 1310 at Lancaster.^11,9,4 She married Sir William de Burgh Knt., 3rd Earl of Lancaster, 4th Earl of Ulster, son of John de Burgh and Lady Elizabeth de Clare, circa 1 May 1327
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Her 1st husband. Date of papal dispensation; Genealogics says m. ca 1330; Med Lands says Papal dispensation 1 May 1327, before 1330.^{12,13,1,14,2,8,4,6,15,16} Maude (?) of Lancaster, Countess of Ulster married Sir Ralph de Ufford, son of Robert de Ufford 1st Baron Ufford and Cecily de Valoignes, before 8 August 1343
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Her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife. Genealogics says m. abt 6 Jul 1345.^{12,2,8,4,6,17,18}
Maude (?) of Lancaster, Countess of Ulster died before 5 May 1377 at Bruisyard Abbey, co. Suffolk, England.^1,2,3,9,4
Maude (?) of Lancaster, Countess of Ulster was buried circa 5 May 1377 at Clare Priory, Clare, St Edmundsbury Borough, co. Suffolk, England; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1310, Lancaster, City of Lancaster, Lancashire, England
     DEATH     5 May 1377 (aged 66–67), Suffolk, England
     Maud Lancaster de Burgh de Ufford. Daughter of Sir Henry Earl of Lancaster and Maud, daughter of Patrick Chaworth. Granddaughter of Edmund Crouchback, 1st Earl of Lancaster and Blanche of Artois, Queen of Navarre. Great granddaughter of King Henry III and Eleanor of Provence, Edmund, Earl of Lancaster and Matilda de Brabant.
     Wife of William de Burgh, son of Sir John de Burgh and Elizabeth de Clare. They were married before 16 Nov 1327, with papal dispensation dated 01 May 1327 related to her in the 4th degree. Mother of one daughter, Elizabeth de Burgh, born at Carrickfergus Castle in Belfast, wife of Lionel of Antwerp. William was murdered at Le Ford (Belfast) on 06 June 1333 by Sir Richard de Mandeville, which started a civil war in Ireland.
     Secondly, wife of Sir Ralph de Ufford, son of Robert de Ufford and Cecily de Valoines. They had one daughter, Maud, who married Sir Thomas de Vere, the 8th Earl of Oxford. When Ralph was appointed Justiciar of Ireland, where they removed to in 1344.
     After Ralph's death, Maud returned to England and became an Augustinian canoness at Campsey, and transferred to Bruisyard in 1364.
     Some records state she is buried next to her second husband at Campsey Priory. Other records state she was originally buried at Clare Priory and later moved to Bruisyard with her daughter, but only the brasses remain.
     From Wikipedia: "On 6 June 1333, Maud's husband was murdered by Sir Richard de Mandeville, John de Logan and others at Le Ford, near the modern Belfast. After his murder, which sparked a civil war in Ireland, Maud fled to England with her infant daughter, who was the Countess of Ulster, and they lived at the court of King Edward III with the royal family. She married her second husband, Sir Ralph de Ufford, by 8 August 1343. Sir Ralph was the youngest son of Robert de Ufford, Lord Ufford, and Cecily de Valognes. In 1344, he was appointed Justiciar of Ireland, therefore Maud accompanied him in July of that year to Ireland, where she had another daughter, Maud de Ufford. Maud left Elizabeth behind at the royal court as the latter had been married in 1342 at the age of ten, to Lionel of Antwerp, Duke of Clarence, the second son of King Edward III. Her second daughter Maud would marry Thomas de Vere, 8th Earl of Oxford, by whom she had a son, Robert de Vere, 9th Earl of Oxford, Marquess of Dublin, Duke of Ireland."
     Maud's husband was an incompetent Justiciar, thoroughly despised by the Irish; under his badly-managed administration, the civil war that was waged between the Desmond and de Burgh families was at its height. He was summoned before Parliament to answer for his misdeeds, and for the incessant quarrels and skirmishes permitted under his government between the Anglo-Norman noblemen.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Henry of Lancaster 1281–1345
          Matilda de Chaworth Plantagenet 1282–1322
     Spouses
          William Donn de Burgh 1312–1333
          Ralph de Ufford 1302–1346
     Siblings
          Isabel de Plantagenet unknown–1349
          Blanche Plantagenet Wake 1305–1380
          Henry of Lancaster 1310–1361
          Joan Plantagenet Mowbray 1312–1349
          Eleanor Plantagenet FitzAlan de Arundel 1318–1372
          Mary Plantagenet Percy 1320–1362
     Children
          Elizabeth de Burgh 1332–1363
          Maud de Ufford Vere 1345–1413
     BURIAL     Clare Priory, Clare, St Edmundsbury Borough, Suffolk, England
     Created by: Anne Shurtleff Stevens
     Added: 4 Nov 2012
     Find a Grave Memorial 100181569.^1,4,19
      ; Per Weis: “William de Burgh, 3rd Earl of Ulster, b. 17 Sept. 1312, murdered at LeFord Belfast 6 June 1333, age 20; m. (Papal disp. 1 May 1327), Maud of Lancaster, d. 5 May 1377, dau. of Henry (17-29), 3rd Earl of Lancaster, by Maud de Chaworth (73-32), dau. Sir Patrick de Chaworth, and Isabel de Beauchamp (72-31). She m. (2) by 8 Aug. 134, Sir Ralph d'Ufford, Justiciar of Ireland, d. 9 Apr. 1346. (CP, XII (2):178-179).”.⁶

; Per Med Lands:
     "WILLIAM de Burgh (in Ireland 17 Sep 1312-murdered Le Ford [Belfast] 6 Jun 1333). The Chronica de Fundatoribus et Fundatione of Tewkesbury Abbey names “Willelmo” as the son of “Johannem de Borow comitem de Holvestre” & his wife[1500]. He succeeded his grandfather in 1326 as Earl of Ulster. He was summoned to Parliament 10 Dec 1327, whereby he is held to have become Lord Burgh. He was murdered by John de Logan and some of the Mandevilles. His death marked the end of Norman rule in Ireland.
     "m (1330) as her first husband, MATILDA de Lancaster, daughter of HENRY Earl of Lancaster & his wife Maud Chaworth ([1310]-[Bruisyard Abbey, Suffolk] 5 May 1377, bur Campsey Abbey, Suffolk). The Chronicle of Adam de Usk names “Matilda filia Henrici comitis Lancastrie filii Edmundi filii tercii Henrici regis Anglie...” as the wife of “Wyllelmy Borch comitis Ultonie” and mother of “Elizabetha Clarencie ducissa”[1501]. She fled to England with her daughter after the murder of her first husband. She married secondly (before 8 Aug 1343) [as his first wife,] Sir Ralph de Ufford. She became a canoness at the Augustine Abbey of Campsey, Suffolk, [8 Aug 1347/25 Apr 1348]. She transferred to the Poor Clares at Bruisyard Abbey, Suffolk in 1364."
Med Lands cites: EDV-20 GKJ-20.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Burke's Guide to the Royal Family, London, 1973 , Reference: page 197.⁸

; This is the same person as ”Maud of Lancaster, Countess of Ulster
” at Wikipedia.

This is also the same person as ”Matilda [Maud] of Lancaster, countess of Ulster” at the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.^5,20

; Per Genealogy.EU (Anjou 3): “E3. Maud, *1298/ca 1310, +Campsey Abbey before 5.5.1377, bur Bruisyard Abbey, Suffolk; 1m: ca 1330 William de Burgh, Earl of Ulster (*1312 +6.6.1333); 2m: before 6.7.1345 Ralph de Ufford”.⁹

; Per Med Lands:
     "MATILDA ([1310]-[Bruisyard Abbey, Suffolk] 5 May 1377, bur Campsey Abbey, Suffolk). The Chronicle of Adam de Usk names “Matilda filia Henrici comitis Lancastrie filii Edmundi filii tercii Henrici regis Anglie...” as the wife of “Wyllelmy Borch comitis Ultonie” and mother of “Elizabetha Clarencie ducissa”[1024]. She fled to England with her daughter after the murder of her first husband. She became a canoness at the Augustine Abbey of Campsey, Suffolk, [8 Aug 1347/25 Apr 1348]. She transferred to the Poor Clares at Bruisyard Abbey, Suffolk 1364.
     "m firstly (Papal dispensation 1 May 1327, before 1330) WILLIAM de Burgh Earl of Ulster, son of JOHN de Burgh & his wife Elizabeth de Clare (in Ireland 17 Sep 1312-murdered Le Ford [Belfast] 6 Jun 1333). He succeeded his grandfather in 1326 as Earl of Ulster. He was murdered by John de Logan and some of the Mandevill es. His death marked the end of Norman rule in Ireland.
     "m secondly (before 8 Aug 1343) [as his first wife,] RALPH de Ufford, son of ROBERT de Ufford Lord Ufford & his wife Cecily de Valoines (-Kilmainham, Ireland 9 Apr 1346, bur Campsey Abbey, Suffolk). Justiciar of Ireland 1344-1346."
Med Lands cites:

; Per Med Lands:
     "RALPH de Ufford (-Kilmainham, Ireland 9 Apr 1346, bur Campsey Abbey, Suffolk). Chief Justice of Ireland 1344.
     "m (before 8 Aug 1343) as her second husband, MATILDA de Lancaster, widow of WILLIAM de Burgh Earl of Ulster, daughter of HENRY Earl of Lancaster & his wife Maud Chaworth ([1310]-[Bruisyard Abbey, Suffolk] 5 May 1377, bur Campsey Abbey, Suffolk). She fled to England with her daughter after the murder of her first husband. She became a canoness at the Augustine Abbey of Campsey, Suffolk, [8 Aug 1347/25 Apr 1348]. She transferred to the Poor Clares at Bruisyard Abbey, Suffolk 1364."¹⁸

     Albrida (?) was born WFT Est. 1058-1105.¹ She married Eudo Lisours WFT Est. 1077-1136.¹

Albrida (?) died WFT Est. 1091-1186.¹
      .¹

     Eudo Lisours was born WFT Est. 1052-1102.¹ He married Albrida (?) WFT Est. 1077-1136.¹

Eudo Lisours died WFT Est. 1091-1180.¹
      .¹

     Aubreye de Lisours married Richard Fitz Eustace, son of Eustace Fitz John and Agnes Fitz Neel.^4,5
Aubreye de Lisours married William de Clairfait.¹
Aubreye de Lisours married William Fitz Godric.^1,2

Aubreye de Lisours died after 1194.⁶
     GAV-24 EDV-24.

.⁴

     Richard Fitz Eustace married Aubreye de Lisours, daughter of Robert de Lisours and Aubreye de Lacy.^3,1

     GAV-24 EDV-24.

.³

     John de Lacy married Alice Fitz Richard.²

John de Lacy died in 1179 at Palestine; Pilgrimage.³
     GAV-23 EDV-23.

.³

     Margaret Buckland Heiress of the Buckland family married Sir John (4) Wrothe Knt., MP, of Enfield, co Middlesex, and Downton, co Wiltshire, England, son of John (3) Wrothe MP, of Enfield, Middlesex,
; his first wife.^1,4,2
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Descendants of Alice Freeman 1605-1664, 2007 , Franke, Joyce.²

     Sir Roger fitz John de Lacy of Hatton married Maude de Clare.^3,4

Sir Roger fitz John de Lacy of Hatton died circa 1211.⁴
     He was Constable of Chester at England.⁵ GAV-22 EDV-22.

; also: 6th feudal Lord Halton and of Pontefract Castle.⁵

     Maude de Clare married William de Braiose, son of William III de Braiose 4th Lord of Bramber and Maud/Mahaut/Mathilde de Saint-Valéry The Lady of Hay.^3,4,5,6,1
Maude de Clare married Rhys Gryg ab Yr Arglwydd Rhys, son of Yr Arglwydd Rhys ap Gruffydd Prince of Deheubarth and Gwenllian ferch Madog, in 1219.^1,7

Maude de Clare died in January 1225.⁸
     GAV-24 EDV-23 GKJ-26.

; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant,forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Sir Bernard Burke, Reference: 72 * Douglas Richardson
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III/1 156.¹

.⁹

     John de Lacy of Hatton, 1st Earl of Lincoln was born in 1192 at Lincolnshire, England.^5,6,3,7 He married Alice de L'Aigle, daughter of Gilbert de L'Aigle Lord of Pevensey and Isabel de Warenne,
;
His 1st wife.^1,8 John de Lacy of Hatton, 1st Earl of Lincoln married Margaret de Quincy Countess of Lincoln, daughter of Robert II de Quincy and Hawise (?) of Chester, 1st Countess of Lincoln, before 21 June 1221
; her 1st husband; his 2nd wife.^6,1,2,3
John de Lacy of Hatton, 1st Earl of Lincoln died on 22 July 1240 at Cheshire, England.^4,1,2,3,7
John de Lacy of Hatton, 1st Earl of Lincoln was buried after 22 July 1240 at St Mary and All Saints Churchyard, Shalley, Ribble Valley Borough, Lancashire, England;
Origially burried at Cistercian Abbey of Stanlaw, Cheshire, England. Later moved to Whalley.
From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1192, Lincolnshire, England
     DEATH     22 Jul 1240 (aged 47–48), Cheshire, England
     The final resting place of Sir John de Lacy, Earl of Lincoln, Lord of Pontefract, son and heir to Sir Roger Fitz John de Lacy of Pontefract and his wife, Maud de Clare. Grandson of John FitzRichard de Lacy and Alice de Mandeville, Sir Richard de Clare and Lady Amice de Muellent. Originally buried at Stanlaw Abbey, Ellesmore Port, Chester, he was later removed to St Mary and All Saints parish church at Whalley, Lancaster, England.
     BURIAL     St Mary and All Saints Churchyard, Whalley, Ribble Valley Borough, Lancashire, England
     Created by: Anne Shurtleff Stevens
     Added: 28 May 2013
     Find A Grave Memorial 111318066.^5,7
     He was Earl of Lincoln.^9,1 GAV-21 EDV-21 GKJ-21.

Reference: Weis [1992:58] 54-29.⁴

; Per Med Lands:
     "JOHN de Lacy, son of ROGER de Lacy & his wife Matilda de Clare ([1192]-22 Jul 1240[976], bur Stanlow, later transferred to Whalley). A manuscript history of the Lacy family names “Johannem, secundum constabularium, et comitem Lincolniæ” as son of Roger and his wife “Matildam de Clare”[977]. Constable of Chester: Matthew Paris records, in 1218, the arrival at Damieta in Egypt of “...Johanne constabulario Cestriæ...”[978]. He was created Earl of Lincoln in 1232. A manuscript history of the Lacy family records the death “XI Kal Aug 1240” of “Johannes de Lacy primus comes Lincolniæ” and his burial “apud Stanlaw”[979]. The Annals of Tewkesbury record the death in Aug 1240 of “Johannes de Lacy comes Lyncolniæ”[980].
     "m firstly ALICE de Laigle, daughter of GILBERT de Laigle & his wife Isabelle de Warenne [Anjou] (-bur Norton). A manuscript history of the Lacy family names “Aliciam filiam Gilberti de Aquila” as wife of “Johannes de Lacy primus comes Lincolniæ”, adding that she was buried “apud Norton”[981].
     "m secondly (1221, before 21 Jun) as her first husband, MARGARET de Quincy, daughter of ROBERT de Quincy & his wife Hawise Ctss of Lincoln (before 1208-Hampstead Mar 1266, bur Clerkenwell, Church of the Hospitallers). The Annales Londonienses name "Margaretam…comitissa Lincolniæ" as the daughter of "Hawisia…de Roberto de Quency"[982]. The Annales Cestrienses record in 1221 that “Johannes constabularius Cestrie” married “filiam Roberti de Quenci neptam domini Ranulphi comitis Cestrie”[983]. A manuscript narrating the descent of Hugh Earl of Chester to Alice Ctss of Lincoln records that “Johanni de Laci constabulario Cestriæ” married “Roberto de Quincy…filiam Margaretam comitissam Lincolniæ”[984]. A manuscript narrating the descent of Hugh Earl of Chester to Alice Ctss of Lincoln records that “Johanni de Laci constabulario Cestriæ” married “Roberto de Quincy…filiam Margaretam comitissam Lincolniæ”[985]. A manuscript history of the Lacy family records that “Johannes de Lacy primus comes Lincolniæ” married “Margaretam filiam Roberti Quincy comitis Wintoniæ nepotem Ranulphi comitis Cestriæ” after the death of his first wife[986]. She married secondly ([Jan 1242]) Walter Marshal Earl of Pembroke. The Annals of Tewkesbury record the marriage “circa Epiphaniam Domini” in 1241 of “Walterus Marescallus comes” and “comitissam Lincolniæ…Margeriam, uxorem quondam Johannis comitis Lincolniæ”[987]. A charter dated 28 Jun 1248 records that "Margaret late Countess of Lincoln…recovered her dower out of the lands in Ireland of W[alter] Marshall late Earl of Pembroke her husband" and that the dower was "taken out of the portions of the inheritance which accrued to William de Vescy and Agnes his wife, Reginald de Moun and Isabel his wife, Matilda de Kyme, Francis de Boun and Sibil his wife, William de Vallibus and Alienor his wife, John de Moun and Joan his wife, Agatha de Ferrers in the king’s custody, and Roger de Mortimer and Matilda his wife"[988]. She married thirdly (before 7 Jun 1252) Richard de Wilteshir. "Margery countess of Lincoln and Pembroke and Richard de Wilteshir and their heirs" were granted "a yearly fair at their manor of Chelebiry" dated 7 Jun 1252[989]. The Annals of Worcester record the death in 1266 of “Margareta comitissa Lincolniæ”[990]. The Annals of Winchester record the death “apud Hamstede” in 1266 of “Margareta comitissa Lyncollniæ”[991]. "
Med Lands cites:

; Per Boyer [2001:121-2]:
     "When he obtained livery of his inheritance in July 1213 he was described as Constable of Chester. In 1213-1214 he was with King John in Poitou, but in 1215 he joined the confederate barons in opposition to the king and became one of the 25 Magna Charta sureties. By the end of the year he ahd made peace with the king, but in 1216 he changed sides, and John destroyed his castle of Donington
     "Pardoned by King Henry III in 1217, that November was commissioned to conduct the King of Scots to King Henry. In 1218 he accompanied the Earl of Chester on crusae and fought at the siege of Damietta. Having returned about Autust 1220 he took part in the reduction of Skipton Castle the following February. In 1226 he was a judge, and the next year he went to Antwerp on a diplomatic mission. In 1229 he conducted the King of Scots to meet King Henry at York. In 1232 he was the King's Commissioner in the proceedings against Hubert de Burgh, Earl of Kent, who lost the post of justiciar in July.
     "On 22 Nov. 1232, at the instance of his mother-in-law, Henry III granted him the third penny of the county as Earl of Lincoln, in which county he served as a justice in 1234. In 1233 he joined against Piers de Roches, the Bishop of Winchester, but changed sides on accepting a bribe of a thousand marks. From then he acted with the Court, becoming one of the king's unpopular counsellors. ON 9 Dec. 1233 he was given custody of the castle of Oswestry, but was the subject of the king's wrath when he allowed Hubert de Burgh to escape at Devizes. As the result of a dispute between the Earls of Chester and Warenne about who was to carry a sword, he carried one of the state swords at the Queen's coronation in 1236. In 1237 there was a great commotion among the barons when he obtained the marriage of his daughter Maud and Richard, Earl of Gloucester. Sheriff of Chester from 1237 to 1240, he was also a benefactor to Stanlaw and other religious houses."¹

.⁵
John de Lacy of Hatton, 1st Earl of Lincoln was a witness to the signed Magna Carta.
Counsellors named in Magna Carta
     "The preamble to Magna Carta includes the names of the following 27 ecclesiastical and secular magnates who had counselled John to accept its terms. The names include some of the moderate reformers, notably Archbishop Stephen Langton, and some of John's loyal supporters, such as William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke. They are listed here in the order in which they appear in the charter itself:[62]
1. Stephen Langton, Archbishop of Canterbury and Cardinal
2. Henry de Loundres, Archbishop of Dublin
3. William of Sainte-Mère-Église, Bishop of London
4. Peter des Roches, Bishop of Winchester
5. Jocelin of Wells, Bishop of Bath and Glastonbury
6. Hugh of Wells, Bishop of Lincoln
7. Walter de Gray, Bishop of Worcester
8. William de Cornhill, Bishop of Coventry
9. Benedict of Sausetun, Bishop of Rochester
10. Pandulf Verraccio, subdeacon and papal legate to England
11. Eymeric, Master of the Knights Templar in England
12. William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke
13. William Longespée, Earl of Salisbury
14. William de Warenne, Earl of Surrey
15. William d'Aubigny, Earl of Arundel
16. Alan of Galloway, Constable of Scotland
17. Warin FitzGerold
18. Peter FitzHerbert
19 Hubert de Burgh, Seneschal of Poitou
20. Hugh de Neville
21. Matthew FitzHerbert
22. Thomas Basset
23. Alan Basset
24. Philip d'Aubigny
25. Robert of Ropsley
26. John Marshal
27. John FitzHugh

The Council of Twenty-Five Barons
     "The names of the Twenty-Five Barons appointed under clause 61 to monitor John's future conduct are not given in the charter itself, but do appear in four early sources, all seemingly based on a contemporary listing: a late 13th-century collection of law tracts and statutes, a Reading Abbey manuscript now in Lambeth Palace Library, and the Chronica Majora and Liber Additamentorum of Matthew Paris.[63][64][65] The process of appointment is not known, but the names were drawn almost exclusively from among John's more active opponents.[66] They are listed here in the order in which they appear in the original sources:
1. Richard de Clare, Earl of Hertford
2. William de Forz, Earl of Albemarle
3. Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex and Gloucester
4. Saer de Quincy, Earl of Winchester
5. Henry de Bohun, Earl of Hereford
6. Roger Bigod, Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk
7. Robert de Vere, Earl of Oxford
8. William Marshal junior
9. Robert Fitzwalter, baron of Little Dunmow
10. Gilbert de Clare, heir to the earldom of Hertford
11. Eustace de Vesci, Lord of Alnwick Castle
12. Hugh Bigod, heir to the Earldoms of Norfolk and Suffolk
13. William de Mowbray, Lord of Axholme Castle
14. William Hardell, Mayor of the City of London
15. William de Lanvallei, Lord of Walkern
16. Robert de Ros, Baron of Helmsley
17. John de Lacy, Constable of Chester and Lord of Pontefract Castle
18. Richard de Percy
19. John FitzRobert de Clavering, Lord of Warkworth Castle
20. William Malet
21. Geoffrey de Saye
22. Roger de Montbegon, Lord of Hornby Castle, Lancashire[f]
23. William of Huntingfield, Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk
24. Richard de Montfichet
25. William d'Aubigny, Lord of Belvoir

Excommunicated rebels
     "In September 1215, the papal commissioners in England – Subdeacon Pandulf, Peter des Roches, Bishop of Winchester, and Simon, Abbot of Reading – excommunicated the rebels, acting on instructions earlier received from Rome. A letter sent by the commissioners from Dover on 5 September to Archbishop Langton explicitly names nine senior rebel barons (all members of the Council of Twenty-Five), and six clerics numbered among the rebel ranks:[67]
Barons
1. Robert Fitzwalter
2. Saer de Quincy, Earl of Winchester
3. Richard de Clare, Earl of Hertford
4. Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex and Gloucester
5. Eustace de Vesci
6. Richard de Percy
7. John de Lacy, Constable of Chester
8. William d'Aubigny
9. William de Mowbray
Clerics
10. Giles de Braose, Bishop of Hereford
11. William, Archdeacon of Hereford
12. Alexander the clerk [possibly Alexander of St Albans]
13. Osbert de Samara
14. John de Fereby
15. Robert, chaplain to Robert Fitzwalter with John I "Lackland" (?) King of England on 15 June 1215.¹⁰ John de Lacy of Hatton, 1st Earl of Lincoln was Created Earl of Lincoln 1232; constable of Chester in 1232.⁵

     Roger Fitz Richard 1st Lord of Warkworth, Lord of Clavering, co. Essed married Alice de Vere, daughter of Aubrey II de Vere of Great Addington & Drayton, co. Northampton and Alice (Adeliza) Fitz Gilbert de Clare,
; her 2nd husband.^4,2
Roger Fitz Richard 1st Lord of Warkworth, Lord of Clavering, co. Essed died in 1178.^5,6,2
     He was 1st Lord of Warkworth at Warkworth, Northumberland, England.²

; per Ravilious: [quote] Thanks to our friends at Google, the following extract from The Yorkshire Archaeological and Topographical Journal concerning the issue of Asolf or Esulf (de Holdsworth) was noted today:

' Although Jordan, the eldest son, seems to have held Thornhill of the honour of Wakefield in the time of Earl Hameline
(1163-1202, Mon. Angl. i. 406), and witnessed the charter of Adeliza de Rumeli with Adam fitz Sweyn. Jordan de Thornul m.
a dau. of Ric. fitz Roger, and had with her a carucate of land in Lancashire, which he held of the king. He was dead 1194,
and the Thornhills are either descended from his son Richard, or, according to pedigrees, from another son, Jordan. ' [1]

This is the first statement I have found identifying a spouse of one of the earlier Thornhills.

At present I have found only two Richards (fitz Roger) that come close to being a chronological and/or geographical match:

1. Richard fitz Roger, of Woodplumpton in Amounderness.

2. Richard fitz Roger, son of Roger le Bigod and Adeliza de Tony, and younger brother of Hugh le Bigod, 1st Earl
of Norfolk (d. bef 9 Mar 1176). His son, Roger fitz Richard, of Warkworth, Northumberland (d. 1178) and
immediate descendants have been discussed regularly in SGM posts.

Richard fitz Roger of Woodplumpton is a bit late to be a good candidate. He was alive in 1191, and died sometime before 26 Feb 1201; further, of his five daughters, three (Margaret, Quenild, and Amuria) are not known to have been married, and the husbands for the other two (Avice m. William de Millom, and Maud m. Robert de Stockport) do not obviously include Jordan de Thornhill [2]. Richard fitz Roger, of the Bigod family, has a less detailed biography (in my database anyway), providing more fertile ground in the absence of facts at present, and also a well-known group of families to which the Thornhills may be related (if his daughter was the wife of Jordan de Thornhill, that is).

There are certainly other possibilities, Richard not being an uncommon name ca. 1100-1200. Perhaps the statement (unfortunately undocumented by Ellis) that a carucate of land in Lancashire was the maritagium of the daughter of Richard fitz Roger, and was held in chief, will lead to a true identification of the mother of Richard de Thornhill [3].

Cheers,

John *



NOTES

[1] Alfred S. Ellis, "Dodsworth's Yorkshire Notes (Agbrigg)" in Yorkshire Archaeological and Topographical Journal (London:
printed for the Association by Bradbury, Agnew and Co., Whitefriars, E.C., 1884), VIII:487.

[2] A History of the County of Lancashire (Victoria County History series) (1908), II:107-111.

[3] Among the details known at this date re: Jordan de Thornhill and his son Richard:

A. Jordan de Thornhill, of Thornhill and Hunsworth, co. Yorks.

' Jordan son of Essulf', constable of Wakefield, 1174-78

' On 25 January 1194-5 he and his son Richard were granted by final concord the land of Thornhill, Hunsworth and East
Bierley by Richard de Tong for the service of a quarter of a knight's fee and 10s yearly. ' [Clay p. 91, cites EYC iii, no. 1767]

B. Richard de Thornhill, of Thornhill and Hunsworth, co. Yorks.

' Richard son of Jordan ', witness to a grant [dated c1199-c1216] to his brother Jordan : ' William, son of Pain de Denebj, to Jordan, son of Jordan de Thornhill, of two bovates of land in Denebj, held of Simon, son of Michael de Denebi, paying annually half a pound of cumin, or two-pence.
Witnesses, John de Birkin, and Roger his brother, Germanns de Thornhill, Richard, son of Jordan, William son of Thomas, William son of John, Robert son of Dolrin, Adam de Mirefield, Simon de Denebj, John de Thornhill, who wrote the Charter.'
- A2A, West Yorkshire Archive Service, Calderdale: Papers of the Armytage family of Kirklees Hall [KM/1 - KM/857], KM/2

identified as father of John de Thornhill, and ancestor of the subsequent Thornhills of Thornhill [Clay, EYF 91] [end quote].⁶

; per Ravilious: Roger fitz Richard
Death:     1178[1]
Occ:     lord of Warkworth

of Warkworth, Northumberland

'Roger filius Ricardi de Wrkewrthe', identified as 'nepos' of
Earl Hugh Bigod, and as a nephew of 'Thomas de Candelent'
[DD 948[5], cites C. Clay, 'The ancestry of the early lords of
Warkworth', Archaeologia Aeliana, 4th ser. 32 (1954), 65-71]

received a grant of Warkworth in Northumberland from King
Henry II, 1157
held 1 knight's fee in chief in 1166 [DD 948[5], cites Fees, 200]

2nd husband of Adeliza de Vere[1],[5]

Spouse:     Alice (Adeliza) de Vere[1],[6]
Birth:     bef 1141[1]
Death:     aft 1184[1]
Father:     Aubrey de Vere, chamberlain of England (<1090-1141)
Mother:     Adeliza de Clare (-ca1163)

Children:     Robert (-1214)
          Alice, m. John fitz Richard, constable of Chester.² GAV-23 EDV-23 GKJ-23.

; Weis AR 246d-2.

     Roger II Bigod Baron Bigod, 2nd Earl of Norfolk married Ida (Isabella) de Toeni, daughter of Ralph V de Toeni (de Conches) Lord of Flamstead and Margaret/Marguerite de Beaumont.^2,3
Roger II Bigod Baron Bigod, 2nd Earl of Norfolk was born circa 1150.^2,4
Roger II Bigod Baron Bigod, 2nd Earl of Norfolk died before 2 August 1221.^4,5,1
     GAV-22 EDV-22 GKJ-23. He was Steward of England.⁵

; His son Roger was not immediately recognised as 2nd Earl of Norfolk but was so invested in 1189, some 12 years after Hugh's death. Yet Roger was more loyal than Hugh, fighting against his own father on HENRY II's side at the Battle of Fornham in 1173, when Hugh and an army of invading Flemings were defeated. Roger later served as one of the baronial guarantors of the liberties extorted from KING JOHN at the signing of Magna Carta, however, and evidently fell out with JOHN such that the latter confiscated his lands. He died in 1221, having been reconciled to the Crown from 1217, by which time HENRY III had ascended the throne.⁶

; [quote] He attended the Council of Clarendon in Jan. 1163/4, and was with the King at Pembroke in Oct. 1171. At the battle of Fornham in 1173 he bore the standard under which the royals fought, thus opposing his father. When his father died in 1176/7 he was responsible for the rest of his father's fine, but it was forgiven and alnds restoredin early 1982. He was make Earl of Norfolk after the coronation on 25 Nov. 1189 of Richard I. In 1191 while King Richard I was away on the Crusades, Roger supported the Chancellor against Prince John. Two years later he was one of the magnates who went to Germany with the Chancellor to ransom Richard, having been active as a judge. He attended King Richard's coronation 17 April 1199, and during the next two years sat as a Baron of the Exchequer. On 27 May 1199 he attended the coronation of King John, and then, after a period in Normandy, in Nov. 1200 he was one of the Earls sent to Scotland to bring their king to Lincoln to do homage to John. In May 1212 he was one of the magnates who witnessed King John's charter to the Count of Boulogne after his homage at Lambeth. In Jan. 1214/5 he was still acting as a royal official, but in June he joined the Barons in their ultimatum to the King from Stamford; he and his son Hugh were among the twenty-five barons elected to be sureties of the Magna Carta. In Dec. 1215 he was among those magnates excommunicated by the Pope, and his lands and forfeited and ravaged by the king. As a result of returning to the king's allegiance, his lands were ordered returned to him in Sept. 1217, after John died. [end quote]¹

; weis 69-28. He was 2nd Earl of Norfolk in 1189.^4,7 He was Baron of the Exchequer between 1195 and 1196.⁸

; Magna Carta Surety.⁵
Roger II Bigod Baron Bigod, 2nd Earl of Norfolk was a witness to the signed Magna Carta.
Counsellors named in Magna Carta
     "The preamble to Magna Carta includes the names of the following 27 ecclesiastical and secular magnates who had counselled John to accept its terms. The names include some of the moderate reformers, notably Archbishop Stephen Langton, and some of John's loyal supporters, such as William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke. They are listed here in the order in which they appear in the charter itself:[62]
1. Stephen Langton, Archbishop of Canterbury and Cardinal
2. Henry de Loundres, Archbishop of Dublin
3. William of Sainte-Mère-Église, Bishop of London
4. Peter des Roches, Bishop of Winchester
5. Jocelin of Wells, Bishop of Bath and Glastonbury
6. Hugh of Wells, Bishop of Lincoln
7. Walter de Gray, Bishop of Worcester
8. William de Cornhill, Bishop of Coventry
9. Benedict of Sausetun, Bishop of Rochester
10. Pandulf Verraccio, subdeacon and papal legate to England
11. Eymeric, Master of the Knights Templar in England
12. William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke
13. William Longespée, Earl of Salisbury
14. William de Warenne, Earl of Surrey
15. William d'Aubigny, Earl of Arundel
16. Alan of Galloway, Constable of Scotland
17. Warin FitzGerold
18. Peter FitzHerbert
19 Hubert de Burgh, Seneschal of Poitou
20. Hugh de Neville
21. Matthew FitzHerbert
22. Thomas Basset
23. Alan Basset
24. Philip d'Aubigny
25. Robert of Ropsley
26. John Marshal
27. John FitzHugh

The Council of Twenty-Five Barons
     "The names of the Twenty-Five Barons appointed under clause 61 to monitor John's future conduct are not given in the charter itself, but do appear in four early sources, all seemingly based on a contemporary listing: a late 13th-century collection of law tracts and statutes, a Reading Abbey manuscript now in Lambeth Palace Library, and the Chronica Majora and Liber Additamentorum of Matthew Paris.[63][64][65] The process of appointment is not known, but the names were drawn almost exclusively from among John's more active opponents.[66] They are listed here in the order in which they appear in the original sources:
1. Richard de Clare, Earl of Hertford
2. William de Forz, Earl of Albemarle
3. Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex and Gloucester
4. Saer de Quincy, Earl of Winchester
5. Henry de Bohun, Earl of Hereford
6. Roger Bigod, Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk
7. Robert de Vere, Earl of Oxford
8. William Marshal junior
9. Robert Fitzwalter, baron of Little Dunmow
10. Gilbert de Clare, heir to the earldom of Hertford
11. Eustace de Vesci, Lord of Alnwick Castle
12. Hugh Bigod, heir to the Earldoms of Norfolk and Suffolk
13. William de Mowbray, Lord of Axholme Castle
14. William Hardell, Mayor of the City of London
15. William de Lanvallei, Lord of Walkern
16. Robert de Ros, Baron of Helmsley
17. John de Lacy, Constable of Chester and Lord of Pontefract Castle
18. Richard de Percy
19. John FitzRobert de Clavering, Lord of Warkworth Castle
20. William Malet
21. Geoffrey de Saye
22. Roger de Montbegon, Lord of Hornby Castle, Lancashire[f]
23. William of Huntingfield, Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk
24. Richard de Montfichet
25. William d'Aubigny, Lord of Belvoir

Excommunicated rebels
     "In September 1215, the papal commissioners in England – Subdeacon Pandulf, Peter des Roches, Bishop of Winchester, and Simon, Abbot of Reading – excommunicated the rebels, acting on instructions earlier received from Rome. A letter sent by the commissioners from Dover on 5 September to Archbishop Langton explicitly names nine senior rebel barons (all members of the Council of Twenty-Five), and six clerics numbered among the rebel ranks:[67]
Barons
1. Robert Fitzwalter
2. Saer de Quincy, Earl of Winchester
3. Richard de Clare, Earl of Hertford
4. Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex and Gloucester
5. Eustace de Vesci
6. Richard de Percy
7. John de Lacy, Constable of Chester
8. William d'Aubigny
9. William de Mowbray
Clerics
10. Giles de Braose, Bishop of Hereford
11. William, Archdeacon of Hereford
12. Alexander the clerk [possibly Alexander of St Albans]
13. Osbert de Samara
14. John de Fereby
15. Robert, chaplain to Robert Fitzwalter with John I "Lackland" (?) King of England on 15 June 1215.⁹

     Ida (Isabella) de Toeni married Roger II Bigod Baron Bigod, 2nd Earl of Norfolk, son of Hugh I le Bigod 1st Earl of Norfolk and Juliana de Vere.^4,2
Ida (Isabella) de Toeni was born circa 1152 at co. Sussex, England.^5,4
      ; per Jim Weber: [quote] Using Turton as a source, I orginally had Roger's wife as Ida Plantagenet, daughter of Hamelin Plantagenet and Isabel de Warenne. Mike Lysell, mlysell@attbi.com, posted the following correction, which led me to research and change Ida's ancestry (see post by SGM below):

Jim - You show Roger’s wife as Ida Plantagenent, Daughter of Hamelin Plantagenet and Isabelle de Warenne. Records indicate that Isabelle and Hamlin did not marry until 1164. At the time of Ida or Isabella’s birth, Isabelle de Warenne was married to William de Blois. According to Fredrick Weis, William de Blois died without issue.

I found the following information on Paul McBride's web page at homepages.rootsweb.com~pmcbride: “Isabella (Ida) (1152-)

“NOT the daughter of Hameline Plantagenet and Isabel de Warren. Turton says she is the daughter of Hameline Plantagenet and Isabel de Warren, but many others dispute that.
b. ABT 1152 r. Sussex, Eng.

“Married first Henry_II Curtmantle King of England (1132-1189)

“Married second Roger BIGOD 2nd Earl of Norfolk (1150-1221)”

Paul also shows this Ida or Isabella as the mother of William Longespee. Paul lists a number of sources on his site.

According to a note on James Dow’s web site, a researcher named Ray Phail recently confirmed that Roger Bigod’s wife Ida and Henry II’s misteress Ida were the same person. I didn't see a date or any sources here.

I've no idea of the accuracy of the above but it does help explain the confusion over Hamilin and Isabelle's date of marriage and Ida Plantagenet's birth date.

Mike Lysell

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The following post by Paul Reed to SGM, 20 Sep 2000, analyzes the possible parents of Ida, but I tend to agree with Douglas Richardson (as suggested below) that Ida was daughter of Roger de Toeny and Margaret Beaumont, partially because the estimate of William's birth date is open to question: Royal sons, even bastard ones, tended to do things at a younger age (earlier than 21) than non-Royals, therefore I am keeping William's birth as "bef 1173". Even though many other sources have William Longespee's mother as Rosemond de Clifford (among others), Ida was established as William Longespee's mother and mistress of Henry II in a reference by William himself to his mother "Countess Ida". Ida de Toeni seems the most likely based on the few countesses of the appropriate age named Ida.

From: Reedpcgen (reedpcgen@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Countess Ida identification [more analysis--long]
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/09/20

We can further narrow down the possible English parentage for Countess Ida with a little more certainty. To recap some past conclusions for newer members (and for those of us whose memories are not what they once were):

We had determined that DNB and the other standard sources that attributed a grant of the manor of Appelby, co. Lincoln, in 1188 to William Longespee (the illegitimate son of Henry) were in error. I had discussed evidence that showed it was held by other families at that period [see a post I made 7 March 1998], and John Sharp reminded us [posted to this group that same date] of an assize record that proved the William Longespee involved was actually the king's legitimate brother (also named William Longespee), not the illegitimate son.

We then determined--throwing out the erroneous attribution--that the earliest date we could attribute to William was 1191, which we concluded gave him an estimated birth date of 1170; but he could easily have been BORN EARLIER than 1170. This would give a date of conception in 1169, if not before.

[William Longespee was highly favored by his brother Richard I, being given important lands in 1191, and the entire Earldom of Salisbury with the five year old heiress in 1196. I take this to indicate that Richard and William were very familiar and had spent much time together before William attained majority -- possibly as a member of the royal household. Henry had plenty of other illegitimate offspring who were not awarded these honors and trust.]

How old was Ida when William Longespee was born? If we determine that fifteen was on the younger side for a mistress of Henry, but that she might possibly have been as old as twenty-five, we have a possible range for her birth between 1144 and 1154.

But remember, again, that William Longespee may well have been born before 1170; we might consider 1154 to be the latest year Ida might be expected to be born. The odds would be more favorable for an earlier year.

Let's compare this with what we know about the Toeni family. CP had determined that Roger [III] de Toeni was born possibly about 1104, given that his parents were married in 1103.

It would be ideal for a feudal lord to have a legitimate male heir right off the bat, but that did not always happen. The older sons might have been born first and died in their youth. Daughters might be born first. It would easily be possible that the husband of Ida of Hainault was born some years after 1110.

I had concluded that the heir of Ralph [V] de Toeni (Ida's son)--which heir was described as but a little boy at his father's death in 1162--was therefore likely born about 1155-1160. Adrian reminded me that CP 7:530, note "e" [under Leicester] states that Margaret de Beaumont did not married Ida of Hainault's son Ralph [V] de Toeni UNTIL AFTER 1155.

Given that Countess Ida was probably born BEFORE 1154, much more likely closer to 1144, she would not be daughter of Margaret de Beaumont. Remember that Ida of Hainault's second son, Roger [IIIa] de Toeni, married Ada/Aude de Chaumont, who was not born UNTIL about 1155. Another of Ida of Hainault's four sons went to be trained and fight with his uncle, Count Baldwin, and the last was a cleric.

Given this chronology, it may be that Ida of Hainault's sons were born about 1130-40 (remember, this is a very rough estimation). It would not be unreasonable for Ida of Hainault to have had a daughter also named Ida born about 1145-50.

If, on the other hand, Roger [III] de Toeni was actually born about 1104, and his wife Ida of Hainault a similar year (say 1105), Ida of Hainault might have had daughters born about 1125-30 who could themselves have had a daughter named Ida born about 1144-54.

Though any daughter of Ida of Hainault was a Toeni, their husband would have had a different surname. Remember that we are dealing with a very early period with relatively few surviving records to aid us. If Countess Ida was not a daughter of Ida of Hainault herself, but a granddaughter, odds are that she was NOT a daughter of one of Ida of Hainault's sons (and not a daughter of the eldest son by Margaret de Beaumont, who was married after 1155), but a daughter of one of Ida of Hainault's daughters.

Paul C. Reed, FASG
(copyright)

Sources:
Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
Page: 7-1, 17c-1, 155-2
Text: States only the first name "Ida" as wife
Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
Page: 138
[end quote].³

; On May 22 Chris Phillips posted a notice about Marc Morris's new book, "The Bigod Earls of Norfolk in the Thirteenth Century" (Boydell, 2005). The book is now available and does provide sources to document that Ida, countess of Norfolk, wife of Roger Bigod I, and mother of William Longespee, was Ida de Tosny. On page 2 Morris says "Around Christmas 1181, at the start of his (Roger's) long road to (political) recovery, Roger married Ida de Tosny, a royal ward." The records that he cites concern the manors of Acle, Halvergate, and South Walsham, which the king had confiscated after the death of Hugh Bigod I, and which went to Roger at the time of his marriage. Morris cites the following publications: "Rotuli Hundredorum (2 vols.), Record Commission, 1812-18, I, 504 (in which she is named as Ide le Tauny), 537 (in which she is named as Ida de Thoney); Pipe Rolls for Henry II, 23rd year, 125, 137; 24th year, 26-7; 28th year, 64. I have not had a chance to look at the Pipe Rolls.!
Nice to have additional sources on this familiar topic.

The book focuses primarily on Roger III and IV and includes a calendar of the Bigod charters. It should be a useful source for anyone interested in this family.⁶ GAV-22 EDV-22. Ida (Isabella) de Toeni was also known as Ida de Tosny.⁶

     Hugh le Bigod 3rd Earl of Norfolk was born in 1178 at Thetford, co. Norfolk, England.² He married Maud Matilda Marshal, daughter of William Marshal 1st Earl of Pembroke and Isabella de Clare Countess of Strigoil, between 1207 and 1212 at co. Norfolk, England.^3,4,5

Hugh le Bigod 3rd Earl of Norfolk died in February 1224.^6,7
     He was 3rd Earl of Norfolk.⁴ GAV-22 EDV-22 GKJ-22.

; Hugh (le) Bigod, the 3rd Earl of Norfolk of this creation, was present with his father the 2nd Earl at the signing of Magna Carta and was also one of the guarantors of its provisions. He died only a few years after his father, whereupon his widow Maud, eldest daughter of William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke and hereditary Master Marshal of the household, married William de Warenne, Earl of Surrey. This concatenation of three dignities - the hereditary marshalcy, Earldom of Norfolk and Earldom of Surrey - foreshadowed their simultaneous possession by the present Dukes of Norfolk.⁸

; Weis AR 69-28. He was 3rd Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk.⁶

; Magna Carta Surety.⁶
Hugh le Bigod 3rd Earl of Norfolk was a witness to the signed Magna Carta.
Counsellors named in Magna Carta
     "The preamble to Magna Carta includes the names of the following 27 ecclesiastical and secular magnates who had counselled John to accept its terms. The names include some of the moderate reformers, notably Archbishop Stephen Langton, and some of John's loyal supporters, such as William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke. They are listed here in the order in which they appear in the charter itself:[62]
1. Stephen Langton, Archbishop of Canterbury and Cardinal
2. Henry de Loundres, Archbishop of Dublin
3. William of Sainte-Mère-Église, Bishop of London
4. Peter des Roches, Bishop of Winchester
5. Jocelin of Wells, Bishop of Bath and Glastonbury
6. Hugh of Wells, Bishop of Lincoln
7. Walter de Gray, Bishop of Worcester
8. William de Cornhill, Bishop of Coventry
9. Benedict of Sausetun, Bishop of Rochester
10. Pandulf Verraccio, subdeacon and papal legate to England
11. Eymeric, Master of the Knights Templar in England
12. William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke
13. William Longespée, Earl of Salisbury
14. William de Warenne, Earl of Surrey
15. William d'Aubigny, Earl of Arundel
16. Alan of Galloway, Constable of Scotland
17. Warin FitzGerold
18. Peter FitzHerbert
19 Hubert de Burgh, Seneschal of Poitou
20. Hugh de Neville
21. Matthew FitzHerbert
22. Thomas Basset
23. Alan Basset
24. Philip d'Aubigny
25. Robert of Ropsley
26. John Marshal
27. John FitzHugh

The Council of Twenty-Five Barons
     "The names of the Twenty-Five Barons appointed under clause 61 to monitor John's future conduct are not given in the charter itself, but do appear in four early sources, all seemingly based on a contemporary listing: a late 13th-century collection of law tracts and statutes, a Reading Abbey manuscript now in Lambeth Palace Library, and the Chronica Majora and Liber Additamentorum of Matthew Paris.[63][64][65] The process of appointment is not known, but the names were drawn almost exclusively from among John's more active opponents.[66] They are listed here in the order in which they appear in the original sources:
1. Richard de Clare, Earl of Hertford
2. William de Forz, Earl of Albemarle
3. Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex and Gloucester
4. Saer de Quincy, Earl of Winchester
5. Henry de Bohun, Earl of Hereford
6. Roger Bigod, Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk
7. Robert de Vere, Earl of Oxford
8. William Marshal junior
9. Robert Fitzwalter, baron of Little Dunmow
10. Gilbert de Clare, heir to the earldom of Hertford
11. Eustace de Vesci, Lord of Alnwick Castle
12. Hugh Bigod, heir to the Earldoms of Norfolk and Suffolk
13. William de Mowbray, Lord of Axholme Castle
14. William Hardell, Mayor of the City of London
15. William de Lanvallei, Lord of Walkern
16. Robert de Ros, Baron of Helmsley
17. John de Lacy, Constable of Chester and Lord of Pontefract Castle
18. Richard de Percy
19. John FitzRobert de Clavering, Lord of Warkworth Castle
20. William Malet
21. Geoffrey de Saye
22. Roger de Montbegon, Lord of Hornby Castle, Lancashire[f]
23. William of Huntingfield, Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk
24. Richard de Montfichet
25. William d'Aubigny, Lord of Belvoir

Excommunicated rebels
     "In September 1215, the papal commissioners in England – Subdeacon Pandulf, Peter des Roches, Bishop of Winchester, and Simon, Abbot of Reading – excommunicated the rebels, acting on instructions earlier received from Rome. A letter sent by the commissioners from Dover on 5 September to Archbishop Langton explicitly names nine senior rebel barons (all members of the Council of Twenty-Five), and six clerics numbered among the rebel ranks:[67]
Barons
1. Robert Fitzwalter
2. Saer de Quincy, Earl of Winchester
3. Richard de Clare, Earl of Hertford
4. Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex and Gloucester
5. Eustace de Vesci
6. Richard de Percy
7. John de Lacy, Constable of Chester
8. William d'Aubigny
9. William de Mowbray
Clerics
10. Giles de Braose, Bishop of Hereford
11. William, Archdeacon of Hereford
12. Alexander the clerk [possibly Alexander of St Albans]
13. Osbert de Samara
14. John de Fereby
15. Robert, chaplain to Robert Fitzwalter with John I "Lackland" (?) King of England on 15 June 1215.⁹

     Richard de Clare 6th Earl of Clare, Hertford & Glouc was born in 1162.² He married Amice Meullent Fitz William Countess of Gloucester, daughter of William Muellent Fitz Robert 2nd Earl of Gloucester and Hawise de Beaumont, in 1180.^3,4,5

Richard de Clare 6th Earl of Clare, Hertford & Glouc died circa 28 November 1217.^4,6
     He was 6th Earl of Clare.⁷ GAV-22 EDV-22 GKJ-22.

; He was present at the coronation of Richard I at Westminster on 3 Sept. 1189, and in 1191 he was one of eleven appointed by the Chancellor (on the part of King Richard) to treat with those of Prince John the questions between King Richard and the prince. In 1193 he was selected by the Chancellor (the Bishop of Ely), to accompany him on his way to Germany, to ransom King Richard. In 1199 he swore an oath to keep peace with King John, his loyalty having been in doubt. He attended King John's coronation at Westminster, 27 May 1199, and the homage of King William of Scotland at Lincoln. He sided with the Barons against the King with the result that Tonbridge Castle was taken from him, and played a leading part in the negotiations for the Magna Charta, being one of the twenty-five barons which were guardians of that charter. On 4 March 12156 his lands in counties Cambridge, Norfolk, Suffollk and Essex were granted to Robert de Betun; he lost lands in other counties soon afterwards. He and his son were excommunicated by Pope Innovent III in 1216. However, he had sone much to enhance his lands and power, losing only the town and castle of Bristol in the long run.¹ He was Earl of Hertford between 1173 and 1217 at England.⁸
Richard de Clare 6th Earl of Clare, Hertford & Glouc was a witness to the signed Magna Carta.
Counsellors named in Magna Carta
     "The preamble to Magna Carta includes the names of the following 27 ecclesiastical and secular magnates who had counselled John to accept its terms. The names include some of the moderate reformers, notably Archbishop Stephen Langton, and some of John's loyal supporters, such as William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke. They are listed here in the order in which they appear in the charter itself:[62]
1. Stephen Langton, Archbishop of Canterbury and Cardinal
2. Henry de Loundres, Archbishop of Dublin
3. William of Sainte-Mère-Église, Bishop of London
4. Peter des Roches, Bishop of Winchester
5. Jocelin of Wells, Bishop of Bath and Glastonbury
6. Hugh of Wells, Bishop of Lincoln
7. Walter de Gray, Bishop of Worcester
8. William de Cornhill, Bishop of Coventry
9. Benedict of Sausetun, Bishop of Rochester
10. Pandulf Verraccio, subdeacon and papal legate to England
11. Eymeric, Master of the Knights Templar in England
12. William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke
13. William Longespée, Earl of Salisbury
14. William de Warenne, Earl of Surrey
15. William d'Aubigny, Earl of Arundel
16. Alan of Galloway, Constable of Scotland
17. Warin FitzGerold
18. Peter FitzHerbert
19 Hubert de Burgh, Seneschal of Poitou
20. Hugh de Neville
21. Matthew FitzHerbert
22. Thomas Basset
23. Alan Basset
24. Philip d'Aubigny
25. Robert of Ropsley
26. John Marshal
27. John FitzHugh

The Council of Twenty-Five Barons
     "The names of the Twenty-Five Barons appointed under clause 61 to monitor John's future conduct are not given in the charter itself, but do appear in four early sources, all seemingly based on a contemporary listing: a late 13th-century collection of law tracts and statutes, a Reading Abbey manuscript now in Lambeth Palace Library, and the Chronica Majora and Liber Additamentorum of Matthew Paris.[63][64][65] The process of appointment is not known, but the names were drawn almost exclusively from among John's more active opponents.[66] They are listed here in the order in which they appear in the original sources:
1. Richard de Clare, Earl of Hertford
2. William de Forz, Earl of Albemarle
3. Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex and Gloucester
4. Saer de Quincy, Earl of Winchester
5. Henry de Bohun, Earl of Hereford
6. Roger Bigod, Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk
7. Robert de Vere, Earl of Oxford
8. William Marshal junior
9. Robert Fitzwalter, baron of Little Dunmow
10. Gilbert de Clare, heir to the earldom of Hertford
11. Eustace de Vesci, Lord of Alnwick Castle
12. Hugh Bigod, heir to the Earldoms of Norfolk and Suffolk
13. William de Mowbray, Lord of Axholme Castle
14. William Hardell, Mayor of the City of London
15. William de Lanvallei, Lord of Walkern
16. Robert de Ros, Baron of Helmsley
17. John de Lacy, Constable of Chester and Lord of Pontefract Castle
18. Richard de Percy
19. John FitzRobert de Clavering, Lord of Warkworth Castle
20. William Malet
21. Geoffrey de Saye
22. Roger de Montbegon, Lord of Hornby Castle, Lancashire[f]
23. William of Huntingfield, Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk
24. Richard de Montfichet
25. William d'Aubigny, Lord of Belvoir

Excommunicated rebels
     "In September 1215, the papal commissioners in England – Subdeacon Pandulf, Peter des Roches, Bishop of Winchester, and Simon, Abbot of Reading – excommunicated the rebels, acting on instructions earlier received from Rome. A letter sent by the commissioners from Dover on 5 September to Archbishop Langton explicitly names nine senior rebel barons (all members of the Council of Twenty-Five), and six clerics numbered among the rebel ranks:[67]
Barons
1. Robert Fitzwalter
2. Saer de Quincy, Earl of Winchester
3. Richard de Clare, Earl of Hertford
4. Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex and Gloucester
5. Eustace de Vesci
6. Richard de Percy
7. John de Lacy, Constable of Chester
8. William d'Aubigny
9. William de Mowbray
Clerics
10. Giles de Braose, Bishop of Hereford
11. William, Archdeacon of Hereford
12. Alexander the clerk [possibly Alexander of St Albans]
13. Osbert de Samara
14. John de Fereby
15. Robert, chaplain to Robert Fitzwalter with John I "Lackland" (?) King of England on 15 June 1215.⁹

     Amice Meullent Fitz William Countess of Gloucester was born in 1160 at Tewkesbury, Tewkesbury Borough, Gloucestershire, England.⁴ She married Richard de Clare 6th Earl of Clare, Hertford & Glouc, son of Roger Fitz Richard de Clare Earl of Hertford and Maud de St. Hilary, in 1180.^5,3,6

Amice Meullent Fitz William Countess of Gloucester died between 1 January 1224 and 1225 at England.^3,1,5,4,6
Amice Meullent Fitz William Countess of Gloucester was buried after 1 January 1225 at Keynsham Abbey, Keynsham, Bath and North East Somerset Unitary Authority, co. Somerset, England; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1160, Tewkesbury, Tewkesbury Borough, Gloucestershire, England
     DEATH     1 Jan 1225 (aged 64–65), England
     Amice of Gloucester, Countess of Clare. Second daughter and co-heiress of William FitzRobert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester and Hawise de Beaumont, granddaughter of Robert de Caen and Mabel FitzHamon, Sir Robert de Beaumont Earl of Leicester and Amice de Waiet. Wife of Sir Richard de Clare, son and heir of Roger FitzRichard de Clare, 2nd Earl of Hertford and Maud Saint Hilary. They had four sons and three daughters:
      Sir Gilbert Earl of Gloucester and Herford
      Richard, murdered in London, 1228
      Roger, died on his way back from the Holy Land
      Henry, in the service of the king
      Maud, wife of William de Brewes
      Joan, wife of Rhys Gryg
      unknown daughter
     When Richard and Amice were ordered to separate due to consanguinity before 1198, Amice took her possession of her maritagium of Sudbury, and records indicate they were considered divorced as she was recorded as the former wife of Clare. They reconciled by the pope as Amice used the title "Countess of Clare" again.
     Amice became the sole heir to her father at her sister, Isabel, Countess of Gloucester's death in 1217.
     Sir Richard died between Oct 30 and Nov 28 of 1217, and Amice had her husband's body carried to Tewkesbury Abbey to be buried in the choir of the Abbey. Her charters make no mention of her husband, only that of her son, and she gave free alms as a widow to Clare Priory.
     Also known as Amice FitzRobert, incorrectly.
     Parents
      William FitzRobert 1116–1183
     Spouse
      Richard de Clare 1153–1217
     Siblings
      Amice FitzWilliam Clare 1160–1225
      Isabella FitzWilliam Burgh 1165–1217
     Children
      Maude De Clare De Lacy 1180 – unknown
      Gilbert de Clare 1182–1230
     BURIAL     Keynsham Abbey, Keynsham, Bath and North East Somerset Unitary Authority, Somerset, England
     Created by: Todd Whitesides
     Added: 22 Jul 2016
     Find A Grave Memorial 167288040.⁴
      ; Weis AR 63-27. She was Countess of Gloucester.⁸

Reference: Genealogics cites:
     1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. VI 501
     2. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard. 119
     3. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 94
     4. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald. 11.⁶ GAV-22 EDV-22 GKJ-22.

     Sir Gilbert de Clare 7th Earl of Clare, 5th Earl of Hertford, 4th Earl of Gloucester was buried at Tewkesbury, Tewkesbury Borough, Gloucestershire, England.¹ He was born circa 1180 at Hertford, Hertfordshire, England.^4,1,2 He married Isabel Marshal, daughter of William Marshal 1st Earl of Pembroke and Isabella de Clare Countess of Strigoil, on 9 October 1217
; her 1st husband.^4,1,5,6,7,2
Sir Gilbert de Clare 7th Earl of Clare, 5th Earl of Hertford, 4th Earl of Gloucester died on 25 October 1230 at Penros, Brittany, France.^4,1,2
      ; per van de Pas: [quote]Gilbert was born about 1180, the son of Richard de Clare, 4th Earl of Hertford, Earl of Clare, and Amicia of Gloucester. From his father he inherited the Clare estates, from his mother the estates of Gloucester and the honour of St. Hilary, and from Rohese Giffard, wife of his great great great grandfather Richard, half of the Giffard estates. In June 1202 he was entrusted with the lands of Harfleur and Montrevillers.

In 1215 Gilbert and his father were two of the barons made Magna Carta sureties, and he championed Louis 'le Dauphin' of France in the First Barons' War, fighting at Lincoln under the baronial banner. He was taken prisoner in 1217 by William Marshal, whose daughter Isabel he married on 9 October of that year. Gilbert and Isabel had six children, of whom three would have progeny.

In 1223 Gilbert accompanied his brother-in-law William Marshal, 2nd Earl of Pembroke, in an expedition into Wales. In 1225 he was present at the confirmation of the Magna Carta by Henry III. In 1228 he led an army against the Welsh, capturing Morgan Gam, who was released the next year. He then joined in an expedition to Brittany, but died on 25 October 1230, on his way back to Penros in that duchy. His body was brought home by way of Plymouth and Cranborough to Tewkesbury. His widow Isabel later married Richard, Earl of Cornwall and Emperor Elect, son of King John. They had four children, of whom only Henry reached adulthood but had no progeny. Isabel died in January 1240, within days of the birth of her last child, who also died that month.[end quote]²

; van de Pas cites: 1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 119 ; Penros Suzanne Doig
2. Burke's Guide to the Royal Family, London, 1973 , Reference: 195
3. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 694.² GAV-21 EDV-21 GKJ-21.

; weis 63-28.⁴

; 7th Earl of Clare.⁸

; He was a Magna Charta surety in 1215; as a consequence he was excommunicated by Pope Innocent III in Dec. 1216. He fought on the side of Prince Louis of France at the battle of Lincoln, 19 May 1217, and was taken prisoner by William Marshal, whose daughter he later married. In Nov. 1217 he was recognized as Earl of Gloucester in right of his maternal descent. From July 1222 he attested royal grants frquently, and he joined the Earl Marshall, his brother-in-lay, in an expedition to Wales in 1223. He was present in 1225 when King Henry III confirmed the Great Charter. In July 1227 he supported Richard, Earl of Cornwall, in his dispute with the King over the forest lays and misgovernment by Hubert de Burgh. In 1228 he led an army against the Welsh and captured Morgan Gam, who was released the next year.¹ He was Magna Carta Surety in 1215.^8,2
Sir Gilbert de Clare 7th Earl of Clare, 5th Earl of Hertford, 4th Earl of Gloucester was a witness to the signed Magna Carta.
Counsellors named in Magna Carta
     "The preamble to Magna Carta includes the names of the following 27 ecclesiastical and secular magnates who had counselled John to accept its terms. The names include some of the moderate reformers, notably Archbishop Stephen Langton, and some of John's loyal supporters, such as William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke. They are listed here in the order in which they appear in the charter itself:[62]
1. Stephen Langton, Archbishop of Canterbury and Cardinal
2. Henry de Loundres, Archbishop of Dublin
3. William of Sainte-Mère-Église, Bishop of London
4. Peter des Roches, Bishop of Winchester
5. Jocelin of Wells, Bishop of Bath and Glastonbury
6. Hugh of Wells, Bishop of Lincoln
7. Walter de Gray, Bishop of Worcester
8. William de Cornhill, Bishop of Coventry
9. Benedict of Sausetun, Bishop of Rochester
10. Pandulf Verraccio, subdeacon and papal legate to England
11. Eymeric, Master of the Knights Templar in England
12. William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke
13. William Longespée, Earl of Salisbury
14. William de Warenne, Earl of Surrey
15. William d'Aubigny, Earl of Arundel
16. Alan of Galloway, Constable of Scotland
17. Warin FitzGerold
18. Peter FitzHerbert
19 Hubert de Burgh, Seneschal of Poitou
20. Hugh de Neville
21. Matthew FitzHerbert
22. Thomas Basset
23. Alan Basset
24. Philip d'Aubigny
25. Robert of Ropsley
26. John Marshal
27. John FitzHugh

The Council of Twenty-Five Barons
     "The names of the Twenty-Five Barons appointed under clause 61 to monitor John's future conduct are not given in the charter itself, but do appear in four early sources, all seemingly based on a contemporary listing: a late 13th-century collection of law tracts and statutes, a Reading Abbey manuscript now in Lambeth Palace Library, and the Chronica Majora and Liber Additamentorum of Matthew Paris.[63][64][65] The process of appointment is not known, but the names were drawn almost exclusively from among John's more active opponents.[66] They are listed here in the order in which they appear in the original sources:
1. Richard de Clare, Earl of Hertford
2. William de Forz, Earl of Albemarle
3. Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex and Gloucester
4. Saer de Quincy, Earl of Winchester
5. Henry de Bohun, Earl of Hereford
6. Roger Bigod, Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk
7. Robert de Vere, Earl of Oxford
8. William Marshal junior
9. Robert Fitzwalter, baron of Little Dunmow
10. Gilbert de Clare, heir to the earldom of Hertford
11. Eustace de Vesci, Lord of Alnwick Castle
12. Hugh Bigod, heir to the Earldoms of Norfolk and Suffolk
13. William de Mowbray, Lord of Axholme Castle
14. William Hardell, Mayor of the City of London
15. William de Lanvallei, Lord of Walkern
16. Robert de Ros, Baron of Helmsley
17. John de Lacy, Constable of Chester and Lord of Pontefract Castle
18. Richard de Percy
19. John FitzRobert de Clavering, Lord of Warkworth Castle
20. William Malet
21. Geoffrey de Saye
22. Roger de Montbegon, Lord of Hornby Castle, Lancashire[f]
23. William of Huntingfield, Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk
24. Richard de Montfichet
25. William d'Aubigny, Lord of Belvoir

Excommunicated rebels
     "In September 1215, the papal commissioners in England – Subdeacon Pandulf, Peter des Roches, Bishop of Winchester, and Simon, Abbot of Reading – excommunicated the rebels, acting on instructions earlier received from Rome. A letter sent by the commissioners from Dover on 5 September to Archbishop Langton explicitly names nine senior rebel barons (all members of the Council of Twenty-Five), and six clerics numbered among the rebel ranks:[67]
Barons
1. Robert Fitzwalter
2. Saer de Quincy, Earl of Winchester
3. Richard de Clare, Earl of Hertford
4. Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex and Gloucester
5. Eustace de Vesci
6. Richard de Percy
7. John de Lacy, Constable of Chester
8. William d'Aubigny
9. William de Mowbray
Clerics
10. Giles de Braose, Bishop of Hereford
11. William, Archdeacon of Hereford
12. Alexander the clerk [possibly Alexander of St Albans]
13. Osbert de Samara
14. John de Fereby
15. Robert, chaplain to Robert Fitzwalter with John I "Lackland" (?) King of England on 15 June 1215.⁹ Sir Gilbert de Clare 7th Earl of Clare, 5th Earl of Hertford, 4th Earl of Gloucester was Earl of Hertford and Gloucester between 1217 and 1230 at England.¹⁰